APT: Failed to fetch cdrom://[Debian...

2014-11-03 Thread Marko Ranđelović
I use Wheezy and I use DVD 1 in APT and http as well. DVD *is* working, but 
whenever I do 'apt-get update', I get and error:

Ign cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux 7.7.0 _Wheezy_ - Official amd64 CD Binary-1 
20141018-13:06] wheezy Release.gpg
Ign cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux 7.7.0 _Wheezy_ - Official amd64 CD Binary-1 
20141018-13:06] wheezy Release
Ign cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux 7.7.0 _Wheezy_ - Official amd64 CD Binary-1 
20141018-13:06] wheezy/main amd64 Packages/DiffIndex
Err cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux 7.7.0 _Wheezy_ - Official amd64 CD Binary-1 
20141018-13:06] wheezy/main i386 Packages
  Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update 
cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs
Ign cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux 7.7.0 _Wheezy_ - Official amd64 CD Binary-1 
20141018-13:06] wheezy/main Translation-en_US
[...]
Fetched 18.7 MB in 38s (487 kB/s)   
 
W: Failed to fetch cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux 7.7.0 _Wheezy_ - Official amd64 CD 
Binary-1 20141018-13:06]/dists/wheezy/main/binary-i386/Packages  Please use 
apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used 
to add new CD-ROMs

E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones 
used instead.

It's disturbing and it's the only way I want to eliminate this error messages.

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Need URGENT help : how to connect cable modem

2014-11-03 Thread Long Wind
the ISP connect me using cable modem

Now in Windows XP I need to enter user/password to connect
the connection is PPPoE
how to do that in Linux

Thanks!!!


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Re: Wheezy fails to complete boot after last update

2014-11-03 Thread Gary Dale

On 03/11/14 12:23 PM, Gary Dale wrote:
After the last upgrade (kernel 3.2.0-4-amd64 and wget), I have a 
Debian/Wheezy server that isn't starting. It gets to the network then 
stops.


The system isn't hung - it will still output messages to the screen 
when I plug and unplug USB devices, and I can use the SysRq key to do 
the reisub bit and see the messages from the various commands.


When I boot to rescue mode, I get to the same point but it shows more 
network messages that seem to show the eth0 link is up, but it doesn't 
get beyond that.


I can boot from sysrescuecd and everything works. And I can run the 
system in chroot and start the services I need for it do its job 
temporarily (bind, samba, cups) but I can't ssh to it. This is a pain 
because the server is remote (35 minutes away) so I can only work on 
it in person. And in person I have to steal a keyboard and monitor 
from another machine.


Anyway, within the chroot I can view the various system logs but they 
don't show much. They show me (remotely) rebooting the server after 
the kernel upgrade then nothing until I chroot into it from 
sysrescuecd. Dmesg is similarly absent. The dmesg log is from the 
previous time I rebooted.


The onscreen messages during a boot showed the system failing to load 
the firmware for the Realtek NIC (8111E) but installing the realtek 
firmware package didn't help - it just fixed the error message.


The system is an ASUS M5A88-M mainboard with an AMD Fx4100 processor. 
It has a 3-disk mdadm RAID array setup as a RAID-1 /dev/md0 boot 
partition and RAID-5 /dev/md1p1 as root and /dev/md1p2 as /home.


Does anyone have any ideas on how I can track down and/or fix this 
problem?


Update: booting using sysrescuecd, I removed the 
/etc/rcS.d/S13networking link and rebooted into single-user mode. It 
completed OK, so I then ran /etc/init.d/networking start, which 
exhibited the same problems it did when run by init. However this time I 
was able to kill the process, at which point I noted the network had 
been started. Exiting from the single-user mode allowed the boot to 
continue to a normal command prompt.


This still leaves me with the problem of not being able to reboot the 
computer remotely, since the workaround involves disabling the network.


dmesg shows the following from the last boot:

[  181.805309] r8169 :03:00.0: firmware: agent loaded 
rtl_nic/rtl8168e-3.fw into memory

[  181.917202] r8169 :03:00.0: eth0: link down
[  181.920948] r8169 :03:00.0: eth0: link down
[  181.928316] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready
[  184.284849] r8169 :03:00.0: eth0: link up
[  184.292178] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): eth0: link becomes ready
[  195.016023] eth0: no IPv6 routers present

The eth0: link becomes ready line is the last line I get on the screen 
when I boot into single-user mode with networking enabled.


The previous dmesg.0 log from two months ago shows instead:

[   10.391548] r8169 :03:00.0: firmware: agent aborted loading 
rtl_nic/rtl8168e-3.fw (not found?)
[   10.391740] r8169 :03:00.0: eth0: unable to load firmware patch 
rtl_nic/rtl8168e-3.fw (-2)

[   10.405264] r8169 :03:00.0: eth0: link down
[   10.405333] r8169 :03:00.0: eth0: link down
[   10.408540] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready
[   11.061379] RPC: Registered named UNIX socket transport module.

The first (firmware) message change reflects the installation of the 
firmware-realtek package in an effort to fix the problem.


I'm guessing that the change is that networking is now bringing the link 
up because I switched to a static IP address, whereas previously it was 
brought up by dchp (with the router assigning an IP address using its 
internal dhcp server).


This is my /etc/network/interfaces file:

auto lo
iface lo inet loopback
auto eth0
iface eth0 inet static
address 192.168.1.17
netmask 255.255.255.0
network 192.168.1.0
broadcast 192.168.1.255
gateway 192.168.1.1

Should it have something about IPv6 in it (or at least somewhere)? Or is 
there some other error?



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Re: WLAN router doesn't provide fix IP addresses

2014-11-03 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 31 October 2014 08:45:41 Karl E. Jorgensen wrote:
> There is nothing wrong with configuring a server with a fixed IP
> address (=not use DHCP client), as long as you use the correct
> network, netmask and default gateway.

This would appear to me to be the obvious solution.  Is there a problem with 
it?

The catch, of course, is that you have to find a way of ensuring that the 
fixed IPs are not immediately given out to other boxen by DHCP. 

Lisi


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Multiple desktops in lightdm?

2014-11-03 Thread Hendrik Boom
I've been using lightdm, and it more or less works.

About a decade ago, on another ancient Linux, I could get multiple 
desktops, selected by ctl-alt-f7 through f12.  Is there some way to set 
up something like that with lightdm?

Just being able to dynamically add another desktop would be good, 
actually; they don't have to all be there at boot.

In case it makes a difference, I'm running squeeze with the traditional 
sysv init.  I use icewm and fvwm as window  managers and do not run gnome 
or kde.  Not that some of those libraries aren't there anyway.

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Re: Camera SD card mounting problems (defined by systemd)

2014-11-03 Thread Charles Kroeger
On Mon, 03 Nov 2014 21:00:02 +0100
Eric Sharkey  wrote:

> autofs isn't an option for /etc/fstab, it's a completely separate way
> to specify mounts.  For something like an sd card, you would add it to
> something like /etc/auto.misc instead of /etc/fstab.  autofs
> filesystems are not mounted at boot time, but dynamically, when an
> application tries to access the contents of the mount point.
> 
> For example, I have this in /etc/autofs.misc:
> 
> sdcard  -fstype=vfat,gid=video,umask=002
> :/dev/disk/by-id/usb-Generic-_SD_MMC_2006041309210-0\:2-part1
> 
> and my sdcards are automatically mounted by attempting to read the
> contents of /var/autofs/misc/sdcard/.
> 
> Eric

Thanks Eric, you can learn a lot of useful stuff on this list if you just keep
poking it. Say something wrong get a clarification. That's good.

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Browser font size selection for printer

2014-11-03 Thread Hendrik Boom
I cannot get chrome or chromium (or Iceweaasel either) to print a web 
page in a twelve-point font on my laser printer.  It insists on using a 
font that's about twice the size.

It even ignores my explicit request to set font-size in the css file:

@media print{
account-tree{
display: block;
margin: 10;
font-weight: bold;
font-size: 12pt;
}
}
@media screen{
account-tree{
display: block;
margin: 10;
font-weight: bold;
}
}

Further, there seems to be no setting option for this in any of these 
browsers.  The large font is destroying my page layout (which looks 
perfectly OK in the browser itself).

I can adjust text size on the  screen with control-plus and control-
minus, but there sees to be no way to do this for printer output.

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Re: Perfect Jessie is something like this...

2014-11-03 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 11/3/2014 8:36 PM, Joel Rees wrote:

> I suppose it may be polemic to assert that forking debian and setting up
> a new community would be labor-intensive, fractious, divisive, and
> general not a wise use of precious free/libre/open community resources,
> in short, "dumb".
>

But just the fact there are people who consider systemd to be
problematic enough to consider forking Debian should not be ignored.

I agree it would be labor-intensive, fractious and divisive.  However,
if the people feel it is that important, I think it would be a wise use
of community resources.

However you look at it, there are a lot of people who love systemd - and
a lot of people who don't want it anywhere near their systems.  Then I
suspect there is the majority, who are somewhere in between.

Jerry


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Re: Re: Perfect Jessie is something like this...

2014-11-03 Thread Jonathan de Boyne Pollard

Laurent Bigonville:

The systemd umbrella project is  made of 10+ different executables

> that have all a specific scope (systemd PID1 used to manage the life
> cycles of the daemons, systemd-logind manage the user sessions,
> systemd-journald a logging system,...) and that are all
> communicating using well defined, stable and documented dbus
> interfaces that allow one to reimplement the functionalities as long
> as it exposes the same interfaces (ie. this is what systemd-shim is
> doing).

Not correct.  The "systemd process" D-Bus API is not stable and not 
covered by the interface guarantee.  It's exactly this that is part of 
the hoo-hah and part of the problem with systemd-shim over the past year 
or so.


* 
http://homepage.ntlworld.com./jonathan.deboynepollard/FGA/debian-systemd-packaging-hoo-hah.html


It's systembsd that is reimplementing the functionalities of the stable 
interfaces, and it's as yet neither finished on BSD nor ported to Linux.



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Re: Perfect Jessie is something like this...

2014-11-03 Thread Joel Rees
2014/11/04 0:54 "Peter Nieman" :
>
> On 03/11/14 01:18, Joel Rees wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 2:46 AM, Peter Nieman 
wrote:
>>>
>>> On 02/11/14 16:45, Marty wrote:


http://uselessd.darknedgy.net/ProSystemdAntiSystemd/

 It should be required reading for any participant in a systemd thread.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Required reading because of what? In order to learn what an arrogant and
>>> insulting pamphlet looks like? I doubt that using the word "dumb" three
>>> times in the first few sentences is an intelligent way of convincing
anybody
>>> of anything.
>>
>>
>> You exaggerate a little.
>
>
> Yes, I do. ;-)
>
>
>> Useful, no matter which side you take?
>>
>> I think so, although extremists on either side of the debate will
>> likely find it irritating:
>
>
> [snip]
>
>
>> And it continues in the same vein, pointing out, much to the apparent
>> distress of extremists, that bad arguments are being used on both
>> sides of the debate.
>
>
> [snip]
>
>
>> So it's going to be hated by extremists on both sides ...
>
>
> [snip]
>
>
>> I'll agree, everyone who wants to continue discussing or debating
>> systemd should read it. Not because it shows how wrong you guys all
>> are (on both sides), but because systemd isn't going away any time
>> soon and we need to put the dumb arguments _on_ _both_ _sides_ away
>> and focus our time on finding ways to make debian's efforts to allow
>> multiple inits going forward to work.
>
>
> The pamphlet by the uselessd developer is full of polemics,

I suppose it may be polemic to assert that forking debian and setting up a
new community would be labor-intensive, fractious, divisive, and general
not a wise use of precious free/libre/open community resources, in short,
"dumb".

> opinionated judgement,

I suppose it may be an opinion that Poeettering's list of fallacies
contains fallacies of its own that needed analysis, or that some of the
pro- tactics have been as bad as some of the anti- tactics.

> and unsubstantiated assumptions about the character of people he has
never met.

I suppose it might be an unsubstantiated assumption that, for instance,
mentioning that Lennart Poettering, who is the leader of the systemd
project, when he describes his baby as the one-and-only perfect solution,
is maybe subject to favoring his own creation.

> To me, that makes his text appear arrogant and - well - useless.

Inyour opinion.

> You, too, seem to take it for granted that we all agree what an
"extremist" is
> and what is "right", "wrong", or "dumb", and are making assumptions
> about how these "extremists" most likely think and feel
> and what will happen in the future.

Are you not making assumptions about what my thinking is?

> I think we shouldn't make such assumptions.

I definitely think we should be careful about what assumptions we make.

All of us.

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Re: proofing searchable pdf files

2014-11-03 Thread Gary Roach

On 11/01/2014 06:35 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote:

On 31/10/14 11:47, Gary Roach wrote:

Hi all,

Problem: I am working on an archiving project and wish to archive
documents to searchable pdf files but can't seem to figure out how to
proof read and correct the text overlay. Any suggestions.

I'm not sure what you mean by "text *overlay*"... but, my usual approach
is to only edit the text content of the final output if the font is
unique - otherwise I feed the to problematic text back into the training
data.
https://code.google.com/p/tesseract-ocr/wiki/AddOns


System: Debian Wheezy Intel i5-750 processor HP Officejet Pro 8600
wireless all in one printer/fax/scanner gscan2pdf software with
Tesseract ocr 300 to 600 dpi scans.

Tesseract seems to do a really great job but I have no good way of
proving this or correcting any mistakes.

Are they the only tesseract components you have installed??
What are the project constraints that prevent you from using the
traditional toolsets for similar projects (what you have listed is
better suited to scanning a few pages only)??

e.g. is there a reason you are not using Terese, YAGF or Lector (or any
of the other fine interfaces that allow proof-reading)?
http://terese.sourceforge.net/
http://code.google.com/p/yagf/
https://code.google.com/p/lector/

What about the standard box file editor and traners(sic, trainers?):-
https://code.google.com/p/tesseract-ocr/wiki/AddOns


Some of the documents are 100 years old and may not be in such great
shape. I can always retype everything but would like to avoid this,
as much as possible, for obvious reasons.

Gary R.




Given that the default output is a standard utf-8 text file why are
people proposing convoluted processes to edit the text in a pdf?

Do you /have/ to tif -> pdf immediately??

It would make more sense from my experience of working with tesseract
and auto-bookscanners to just generate the tif files, then proof-read,
then convert to the final output format (puzzled).


Kind regards


This whole process is new to me and I am struggling to get my feet on 
the ground. I just came to the same conclusion about trying to proof 
pdf's instead of using the raw tiff files. Thank you for the list of 
alternatives to Tesseract. Iwill check them out. I am a bit unsure about 
the "Tesseract tool set" and need to do more research into this area. 
One of the hardest things about developing an new skill set for 
computers is finding the correct software and documentation. I'm still 
working on this.


Thanks

Gary R.


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Won't boot after fresh install.

2014-11-03 Thread Ryan Larrowe
I have just installed the b2 release of Debian testing.  I have a uefi 
motherboard.  I made a 200MB partition for the efi boot.  I did not set 
a mount point for it.  I get an error from grub that says:

error: unknown filesystem

Ryan


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Re: Re: Mount order after systemd update

2014-11-03 Thread Jonathan de Boyne Pollard

Martin Manns:

After switching to systemd, I  would like to get back the following

> behavior: [...]

Martin Steigerwald:

In fstab in the column "pass"  you can only specify the fsck order,

> not the mount order.

No, he cannot even do that.  He's switched to systemd, remember. systemd 
converts /etc/fstab to a set of nonce native systemd units on the fly, 
and those are what actually drive mounting and filesystem checking.  The 
conversion used to translate the pass number into an "fsckpassno" 
setting.  That setting was removed in version 209.  This is the reason:


* 
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Re: HTML5 videos in Jessie

2014-11-03 Thread Proxy
On 2014-Nov-02 18:36, kamaraju kusumanchi wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 7:41 AM, Proxy  wrote:
> 
> > Still doesn't work. I don't think this is related to Iceweasel version.
> >
> 
> That is my guess. But I also do not know which package/version could be
> triggering this problem for you.
> 
> Also, did you install any extensions to the iceweasel? If so, try disabling
> them and see if you can reproduce the issue.
> 
> Try running "iceweasel -safe-mode" and see if the problem is reproducible?

Tried that just now and problem is still there.

> FWIW, here is the list of packages I have installed on my system
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-OMw5Fsje3kQjNiSVZlM080Y1U/view?usp=sharing

I'll try to compare that with my installed packages.


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Re: Re: umask has no man page?

2014-11-03 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 03 nov 14, 13:56:36, Alexis wrote:
> 
> Iain M Conochie writes:
> 
> > However:
> > 
> > $: which umask
> > $:
> > 
> > So umask is _not_ a program (in the sense that there is no binary
> > called umask on the system)
> 
> zsh, however, is more helpful:
> 
> $ which umask
> umask: shell built-in command

Maybe a (wishlist) bug against debianutils is in order?

Kind regards,
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Re: installation disclaimer

2014-11-03 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 02 nov 14, 11:35:00, Diogene Laerce wrote:
> 
> I didn't find any related NEWS.Debian execpt the NEWS.Debian.gz found
> in /usr/share/doc/apt/NEWS.Debian.gz : is it what you're talking about ?

Not in particular. apt-listchanges will hooks into apt (dpkg?) and 
displays any new stuff found in a NEWS.Debian[.gz] file of the packages 
you are upgrading.

If you don't want to see them you can remove apt-listchanges or change 
it's configuration.

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Re: Perfect Jessie is something like this...

2014-11-03 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 02 nov 14, 10:45:11, Marty wrote:
> 
> http://uselessd.darknedgy.net/ProSystemdAntiSystemd/
> 
> It should be required reading for any participant in a systemd thread.

I agree.

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[DSA 3060-1] broke my Wifi

2014-11-03 Thread softwatt

My USB Wifi adapter stopped working since I updated my Kernel to the
latest security update.



Adapter brand name: Edimax 7811un
Driver as shown by lshw:  rtl8192cu driverversion=3.2.0-4-amd64
Chipset: RTL8188CUS according to:
http://www.cianmcgovern.com/getting-the-edimax-ew-7811un-working-on-linux/

p.s. the link above also has some extra info regarding this specific device.


The device is detected, but it never finds any networks. Also, the
device's LED is acting weird: It is either on forever, or off forever.
when I disconnect and reconnect the device it MIGHT toggle between the
forever-on and forever-off state. In the past, the LED used to blink in
sync with network activity.


Two questions:
-What's going on?
-How do I undo an update?



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Re: Camera SD card mounting problems (defined by systemd)

2014-11-03 Thread Eric Sharkey
On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 1:32 PM, Charles Kroeger
 wrote:
> On Mon, 03 Nov 2014 17:30:02 +0100
> Peter Nieman  wrote:
>
>> no one has mentioned autofs in this thread
>
> No, but I will put it in my list of options for /etc/fstab entry.

autofs isn't an option for /etc/fstab, it's a completely separate way
to specify mounts.  For something like an sd card, you would add it to
something like /etc/auto.misc instead of /etc/fstab.  autofs
filesystems are not mounted at boot time, but dynamically, when an
application tries to access the contents of the mount point.

For example, I have this in /etc/autofs.misc:

sdcard  -fstype=vfat,gid=video,umask=002
:/dev/disk/by-id/usb-Generic-_SD_MMC_2006041309210-0\:2-part1

and my sdcards are automatically mounted by attempting to read the
contents of /var/autofs/misc/sdcard/.

Eric


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Re: Camera SD card mounting problems (defined by systemd)

2014-11-03 Thread Charles Kroeger
On Mon, 03 Nov 2014 17:30:02 +0100
Peter Nieman  wrote:

> no one has mentioned autofs in this thread

No, but I will put it in my list of options for /etc/fstab entry. I assume 
entries
like 'autofs' and 'nofail' will soon be obsolete when 'systemd-fstab-generator'
becomes de regueur, eh, Jonathan?

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Re: /sys readonly with backports kernel 3.16

2014-11-03 Thread Dennis Birkholz
My /etc/fstab-file does not contain an entry for /sys at all.

Mounts says:
sysfs on /sys type sysfs (ro,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime)

If I unmount /sys and mount it new with:
mount -t sysfs -o rw,relatime,noexec,nodev,nosuid sysfs /sys/
I get:
mount: warning: /sys/ seems to be mounted read-only.
and the same mount-line appears.

I will try to update the whole system with stuff from backports, maybe
it is a system lib that causes the problems. I just installed the kernel
from backports.

Greets,
Dennis


Am 03.11.2014 14:03, schrieb Reco:
>  Hi.
> 
> On Sun, 02 Nov 2014 19:13:50 +0100
> Dennis Birkholz  wrote:
> 
>> Hi together,
>>
>> I switched from the Wheezy stable kernel to the latest kernel in
>> backports (3.16.3-2~bpo70+1).
>> Now I can not write-mount /sys any more, thus I can not trigger RAID
>> check actions, etc.
>>
>> I tried remounting it (mount -o remount -w /sys), but I can not get it
>> to be writable. Is this intended in the new kernel version or is just
>> some new config option missing?
> 
> I'm using the same kernel and the issue you mention does not reproduce
> here. Please post the output of:
> 
> /etc/fstab
> 
> mount | grep sys
> 
> Reco
> 
> 


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Re (2): /etc/udev/rules.d/10-local.rules

2014-11-03 Thread peter
From:   shawn wilson 
Date:   Sun, 2 Nov 2014 21:49:57 -0500
> Everything must match the same set.

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/udev#Writing_udev_rules
under "Writing udev rules" states,
"A rule to match, can be composed by the attributes of the device 
and the attributes from one single parent device."

Assuming your "set" is an Archlinux "device", the inclusion of an attribute 
from the parent could be crucial.  If, for example, two devices have the 
same ATTR{size}, then ATTRS=={serial} should distinguish.

> Of course not - the rule is structured correctly and it could match for
> another device.

On one machine I had KERNEL=="mmcblk?" rather than "mmcblk?p1".
On another machine the number for ATTR{size} was wrong.

It works now.  Thanks for the reply,... Peter E.

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Wheezy fails to complete boot after last update

2014-11-03 Thread Gary Dale
After the last upgrade (kernel 3.2.0-4-amd64 and wget), I have a  
Debian/Wheezy server that isn't starting. It gets to the network then  
stops.


The system isn't hung - it will still output messages to the screen  
when I plug and unplug USB devices, and I can use the SysRq key to do  
the reisub bit and see the messages from the various commands.


When I boot to rescue mode, I get to the same point but it shows more  
network messages that seem to show the eth0 link is up, but it doesn't  
get beyond that.


I can boot from sysrescuecd and everything works. And I can run the  
system in chroot and start the services I need for it do its job  
temporarily (bind, samba, cups) but I can't ssh to it. This is a pain  
because the server is remote (35 minutes away) so I can only work on  
it in person. And in person I have to steal a keyboard and monitor  
from another machine.


Anyway, within the chroot I can view the various system logs but they  
don't show much. They show me (remotely) rebooting the server after  
the kernel upgrade then nothing until I chroot into it from  
sysrescuecd. Dmesg is similarly absent. The dmesg log is from the  
previous time I rebooted.


The onscreen messages during a boot showed the system failing to load  
the firmware for the Realtek NIC (8111E) but installing the realtek  
firmware package didn't help - it just fixed the error message.


The system is an ASUS M5A88-M mainboard with an AMD Fx4100 processor.  
It has a 3-disk mdadm RAID array setup as a RAID-1 /dev/md0 boot  
partition and RAID-5 /dev/md1p1 as root and /dev/md1p2 as /home.


Does anyone have any ideas on how I can track down and/or fix this problem?


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Re: Mount order after systemd update

2014-11-03 Thread Erwan David
Le 03/11/2014 12:19, Martin Read a écrit :
> On 03/11/14 09:13, Erwan David wrote:
>> On Mon, Nov 03, 2014 at 09:33:30AM CET, Jonathan de Boyne Pollard
>>  said:
>>> That's what you get when your first recourse is Google rather than the
>>> manual that comes with your software on your computer.  (-:  The manual
>>> pages that you should be reading are:
>>>* man -S 5 crypttab  #
>>> (http://freedesktop.org./software/systemd/man/crypttab.html)
>>>* man -S 8 systemd-cryptsetup-generator  #
>>> (http://freedesktop.org./software/systemd/man/systemd-cryptsetup-generator.html)
>>>* man -S 8 systemd-cryptse...@.service.html  #
>>> (http://freedesktop.org./software/systemd/man/systemd-cryptse...@.service.html)
>>
>>
>> Sorry, but this doc should be available *before* migration, because
>> it would render things unbootable to insall without configuring.
>
> It *is* available before migration - Jonathan has helpfully provided
> you with URLs for reading that documentation on the freedesktop.org
> website. There is also an assortment of other information on
> freedesktop.org about how to use systemd, above and beyond a complete
> set of systemd man pages:
>
> http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/
>
>> Same thing how to GUESS those names ?
>
> I seldom try to *guess* the names of programs I want to read
> documentation for, since very few programs of *any* kind have decently
> guessable names. I instead use tools like "apropos relevant-syllable"
> on my Linux systems (which often provides useful results), and adding
> things like "documentation" or "manual" or "man page" to my WWW searches.
>
> Here's what "apropos -s 1:4:5:7:8 crypt"[0][1] returns on my Debian
> jessie system:
>
> mormegil@cocytus:~$ apropos -s 1:4:5:7:8 crypt
> cisco-decrypt (1)- decrypts an obfuscated Cisco vpn client
> pre-shared key
> cryptoflex-tool (1)  - utility for manipulating Schlumberger
> Cryptoflex data ...
> cryptsetup (8)   - manage plain dm-crypt and LUKS encrypted volumes
> cryptsetup-reencrypt (8) - tool for offline LUKS device re-encryption
> des_modes (7ssl) - the variants of DES and other crypto algorithms
> of Ope...
> gpg (1)  - OpenPGP encryption and signing tool
> gpg-zip (1)  - encrypt or sign files into an archive
> gpg2 (1) - OpenPGP encryption and signing tool
> gpgsm (1)- CMS encryption and signing tool
> libgcrypt-config (1) - script to get information about the installed
> version ...
> luksformat (8)   - Create and format an encrypted LUKS device
> mkpasswd (1) - Overfeatured front end to crypt(3)
> ntfsdecrypt (8)  - decrypt or update NTFS files encrypted
> according to EFS
> pkcs15-crypt (1) - perform crypto operations using PKCS#15 smart
> cards
> smbpasswd (5)- The Samba encrypted password file
> symcryptrun (1)  - Call a simple symmetric encryption tool
> systemd-cryptsetup (8) - Full disk decryption logic
> systemd-cryptsetup-generator (8) - Unit generator for /etc/crypttab
> systemd-cryptsetup@.service (8) - Full disk decryption logic
> zipcloak (1) - encrypt entries in a zipfile
> mormegil@cocytus:~$
>
> [0] Searching for a distinctive *subset* of a relevant word is usually
> more helpful than searching for a complete word, hence "crypt" rather
> than "encrypted" or "encryption" or whatever.
>
> [1] I just discovered the '-s' command line flag to apropos. I am so
> happy; no more wading through reams of function man pages when I'm
> trying to find the man page for a program or a configuration file.
>
>

None of this wiull give you a hpowto migrate a perfectly working
configuration to systemd. Nothing. Reading all this will give you bits
of answers but difficult to pout together. When I asked about a
encrypted filessystem proble, I was just answered "may usning a mount
unit", but without any explanation about which mount, which device, etc...



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Re: apt as a user

2014-11-03 Thread Rob Owens
On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 11:29:26AM -0400, shawn wilson wrote:
> I'm trying to allow an apt user to run apt* commands. I've got this polkit:
> 
> /etc/polkit-1/localauthority/30-site.d/10-org.com.foo.apt.pkla
> 
> [Configuration]
> AdminIdentities=unix-user:apt
> Action=org.debian.apt.*
> ResultAny=no
> ResultInactive=no
> ResultActive=yes
> 
> However when I: su - apt
> it looks like nothing has changed:
> 
> $ apt-get update
> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13:
> Permission denied)
> E: Unable to lock directory /var/lib/apt/lists/
> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
> 
> I've got aptdaemon installed. Any idea what I'm doing wrong here?

Unless I'm misunderstanding what you want to do, you could just use
sudo.  Run 'visudo' to edit the /etc/sudoers file and add this line in
the "User privilege specification" section:

apt ALL=NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/apt-get *

The NOPASSWD part is optional.  You could omit it and the apt user would
have to enter a password to run apt-get.  The '*' is a wildcard.  You
could omit it and be specific, like this:

apt ALL=NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/apt-get update
apt ALL=NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/apt-get upgrade

This would allow both of those commands to be run by the apt user.

-Rob



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Re: Camera SD card mounting problems (defined by systemd)

2014-11-03 Thread Peter Nieman

On 03/11/14 07:13, Charles Kroeger wrote:

On Sat, 01 Nov 2014 20:10:01 +0100
Jonathan de Boyne Pollard  wrote:


I see from other messages in this thread that I'm not the only person to
think it equally ludicrous to have a workflow that involves rebooting
the entire machine just to mount and unmount a removable block device.
Indeed, even editing /etc/fstab doesn't need to be part of such a
workflow.  Just mark the entry as non-automatic (also correcting your
spelling mistake that is the root of your problem here, of course)


That was only to mount not unmount. For one thing I don't use this removable 
block
device AKA the SD card enough to have it interfere with my precious workflow.
As far as the 'incorrect' spelling of the device, that was only misspelled after
systemd came into the picture. That line was read in /etc/fstab with no problems
(for years) before it became misspelled.

I've already corrected the offending spelling of the device and used the NON
systemd methodology as recommended by The Wanderer and Martin Read,
preempting your delicate sensibilities. So all is well.


Strange that no one has mentioned autofs in this thread, as far as I can 
see...


p.


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Re: Camera SD card mounting problems (defined by systemd)

2014-11-03 Thread Charles Kroeger
On Sat, 01 Nov 2014 11:50:01 +0100
Andrei POPESCU  wrote:

> Why reboot, you can just use 'mount -a'?
> 
> By the way, 'auto' and 'rw' are default, no need to set them explicitly.

Thanks for this information

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Kernel crash 3.17.2 unable to use kvm

2014-11-03 Thread Bhasker C V
Hi,

 I tried to compile the latest kernel 3.17.2 and when loading
kvm_intel, the kernel crashes (not catastrophically but as below) and
kvm_intel never works.
The old kernel 3.14.x works fine but I dont want to use an older
kernel as a solution to the current issue.

Can somebody help to tell me if this is an environment issue or a real
kernel bug ?
This is a DELL D620 with core2duo T5520 (vmx enabled)
Thanks

---

[  349.007575] general protection fault:  [#1] SMP
[  349.008516] Modules linked in: kvm_intel(+) kvm ctr ccm
cpufreq_userspace cpufreq_conservative cpufreq_stats cpufreq_powersave
bnep rfcomm autofs4 nfsd auth_rpcgss oid_registry nfs_acl nfs lockd
fscache sunrpc xts gf128mul fuse dm_crypt arc4 b43 bcma mac80211 i915
joydev iTCO_wdt iTCO_vendor_support dell_wmi rndis_wlan coretemp
dell_laptop sparse_keymap ppdev microcode psmouse rndis_host dcdbas
cdc_ether serio_raw cdc_phonet evdev i2c_i801 usbnet phonet cdc_acm
ecb btusb mii lpc_ich mfd_core bluetooth yenta_socket pcmcia_rsrc
cfg80211 snd_hda_codec_idt snd_hda_codec_generic snd_hda_intel
snd_hda_controller drm_kms_helper drm snd_hda_codec snd_hwdep snd_pcm
rng_core wmi snd_seq irda snd_timer snd_seq_device snd rfkill battery
button shpchp crc_ccitt tpm_tis parport_pc parport video ac tpm
i2c_algo_bit i2c_core soundcore processor ext4 crc16 jbd2 mbcache
usbhid sg sd_mod crct10dif_generic sr_mod cdrom crc_t10dif
crct10dif_common ata_generic ssb ata_piix uhci_hcd tg3 ptp mmc_core
pps_core libphy pcmcia pcmcia_core thermal thermal_sys [last unloaded:
pcspkr]
[  349.008516] CPU: 0 PID: 3604 Comm: modprobe Not tainted 3.17.2-bcv #1
[  349.008516] Hardware name: Dell Inc. Latitude D620
 /0FT292, BIOS A08 04/03/2007
[  349.008516] task: 880073f08de0 ti: 880073eb task.ti:
880073eb
[  349.008516] RIP: 0010:[]  []
hardware_setup+0x303/0x3e0 [kvm_intel]
[  349.008516] RSP: 0018:880073eb3d00  EFLAGS: 00010202
[  349.008516] RAX: 0401e172 RBX: 0200 RCX: 048b
[  349.008516] RDX: 7799fffe RSI:  RDI: f7ff
[  349.008516] RBP:  R08: 1fff R09: 880073eb3cec
[  349.008516] R10: 0004 R11: 0002 R12: a072a500
[  349.008516] R13: 3f80 R14:  R15: 880073eb3f08
[  349.008516] FS:  7fe51d656700() GS:88007f40()
knlGS:
[  349.008516] CS:  0010 DS:  ES:  CR0: 8005003b
[  349.008516] CR2: 7f1fd003b000 CR3: 738b3000 CR4: 07f0
[  349.008516] Stack:
[  349.008516]  0040  a072a500
3f80
[  349.008516]   a069d83f 
fff4
[  349.008516]  a0731752  81816040
a07318ea
[  349.008516] Call Trace:
[  349.008516]  [] ? kvm_init+0x45/0x242 [kvm]
[  349.008516]  [] ?
vmx_check_processor_compat+0x5a/0x5a [kvm_intel]
[  349.008516]  [] ? vmx_init+0x198/0x8ae [kvm_intel]
[  349.008516]  [] ?
vmx_check_processor_compat+0x5a/0x5a [kvm_intel]
[  349.008516]  [] ? do_one_initcall+0xe3/0x162
[  349.008516]  [] ? __vunmap+0x9e/0xab
[  349.008516]  [] ? load_module+0x18fd/0x1efe
[  349.008516]  [] ? load_module+0x1932/0x1efe
[  349.008516]  [] ? kernel_read+0x3b/0x4e
[  349.008516]  [] ? copy_module_from_fd+0x92/0xea
[  349.008516]  [] ? SyS_finit_module+0x51/0x5c
[  349.008516]  [] ? SyS_finit_module+0x51/0x5c
[  349.008516]  [] ? system_call_fastpath+0x16/0x1b
[  349.008516] Code: 00 0f 32 81 e2 8c 9e d9 e3 b1 8b c7 05 b7 91 ff
ff 72 e1 01 04 81 ca 72 e1 01 14 c7 05 9f 91 ff ff 72 61 00 04 89 15
9d 91 ff ff <0f> 32 81 e2 c1 00 00 00 80 3d b4 8e ff ff 00 c7 05 7c 91
ff ff
[  349.008516] RIP  [] hardware_setup+0x303/0x3e0 [kvm_intel]
[  349.008516]  RSP 
[  349.127085] ---[ end trace e0b62efdc2f6864a ]---


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Re: Perfect Jessie is something like this...

2014-11-03 Thread Peter Nieman

On 03/11/14 01:18, Joel Rees wrote:

On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 2:46 AM, Peter Nieman  wrote:

On 02/11/14 16:45, Marty wrote:


http://uselessd.darknedgy.net/ProSystemdAntiSystemd/

It should be required reading for any participant in a systemd thread.



Required reading because of what? In order to learn what an arrogant and
insulting pamphlet looks like? I doubt that using the word "dumb" three
times in the first few sentences is an intelligent way of convincing anybody
of anything.


You exaggerate a little.


Yes, I do. ;-)


Useful, no matter which side you take?

I think so, although extremists on either side of the debate will
likely find it irritating:


[snip]


And it continues in the same vein, pointing out, much to the apparent
distress of extremists, that bad arguments are being used on both
sides of the debate.


[snip]


So it's going to be hated by extremists on both sides ...


[snip]


I'll agree, everyone who wants to continue discussing or debating
systemd should read it. Not because it shows how wrong you guys all
are (on both sides), but because systemd isn't going away any time
soon and we need to put the dumb arguments _on_ _both_ _sides_ away
and focus our time on finding ways to make debian's efforts to allow
multiple inits going forward to work.


The pamphlet by the uselessd developer is full of polemics, opinionated 
judgement, and unsubstantiated assumptions about the character of people 
he has never met. To me, that makes his text appear arrogant and - well 
- useless.


You, too, seem to take it for granted that we all agree what an 
"extremist" is and what is "right", "wrong", or "dumb", and are making 
assumptions about how these "extremists" most likely think and feel and 
what will happen in the future. I think we shouldn't make such assumptions.




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Re: /sys readonly with backports kernel 3.16

2014-11-03 Thread Reco
 Hi.

On Sun, 02 Nov 2014 19:13:50 +0100
Dennis Birkholz  wrote:

> Hi together,
> 
> I switched from the Wheezy stable kernel to the latest kernel in
> backports (3.16.3-2~bpo70+1).
> Now I can not write-mount /sys any more, thus I can not trigger RAID
> check actions, etc.
> 
> I tried remounting it (mount -o remount -w /sys), but I can not get it
> to be writable. Is this intended in the new kernel version or is just
> some new config option missing?

I'm using the same kernel and the issue you mention does not reproduce
here. Please post the output of:

/etc/fstab

mount | grep sys

Reco


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Re: Mount order after systemd update

2014-11-03 Thread Martin Read

On 03/11/14 09:13, Erwan David wrote:

On Mon, Nov 03, 2014 at 09:33:30AM CET, Jonathan de Boyne Pollard 
 said:

That's what you get when your first recourse is Google rather than the
manual that comes with your software on your computer.  (-:  The manual
pages that you should be reading are:
   * man -S 5 crypttab  #
(http://freedesktop.org./software/systemd/man/crypttab.html)
   * man -S 8 systemd-cryptsetup-generator  # 
(http://freedesktop.org./software/systemd/man/systemd-cryptsetup-generator.html)
   * man -S 8 systemd-cryptse...@.service.html  # 
(http://freedesktop.org./software/systemd/man/systemd-cryptse...@.service.html)



Sorry, but this doc should be available *before* migration, because it would 
render things unbootable to insall without configuring.


It *is* available before migration - Jonathan has helpfully provided you 
with URLs for reading that documentation on the freedesktop.org website. 
There is also an assortment of other information on freedesktop.org 
about how to use systemd, above and beyond a complete set of systemd man 
pages:


http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/


Same thing how to GUESS those names ?


I seldom try to *guess* the names of programs I want to read 
documentation for, since very few programs of *any* kind have decently 
guessable names. I instead use tools like "apropos relevant-syllable" on 
my Linux systems (which often provides useful results), and adding 
things like "documentation" or "manual" or "man page" to my WWW searches.


Here's what "apropos -s 1:4:5:7:8 crypt"[0][1] returns on my Debian 
jessie system:


mormegil@cocytus:~$ apropos -s 1:4:5:7:8 crypt
cisco-decrypt (1)- decrypts an obfuscated Cisco vpn client 
pre-shared key
cryptoflex-tool (1)  - utility for manipulating Schlumberger Cryptoflex 
data ...

cryptsetup (8)   - manage plain dm-crypt and LUKS encrypted volumes
cryptsetup-reencrypt (8) - tool for offline LUKS device re-encryption
des_modes (7ssl) - the variants of DES and other crypto algorithms 
of Ope...

gpg (1)  - OpenPGP encryption and signing tool
gpg-zip (1)  - encrypt or sign files into an archive
gpg2 (1) - OpenPGP encryption and signing tool
gpgsm (1)- CMS encryption and signing tool
libgcrypt-config (1) - script to get information about the installed 
version ...

luksformat (8)   - Create and format an encrypted LUKS device
mkpasswd (1) - Overfeatured front end to crypt(3)
ntfsdecrypt (8)  - decrypt or update NTFS files encrypted according 
to EFS

pkcs15-crypt (1) - perform crypto operations using PKCS#15 smart cards
smbpasswd (5)- The Samba encrypted password file
symcryptrun (1)  - Call a simple symmetric encryption tool
systemd-cryptsetup (8) - Full disk decryption logic
systemd-cryptsetup-generator (8) - Unit generator for /etc/crypttab
systemd-cryptsetup@.service (8) - Full disk decryption logic
zipcloak (1) - encrypt entries in a zipfile
mormegil@cocytus:~$

[0] Searching for a distinctive *subset* of a relevant word is usually 
more helpful than searching for a complete word, hence "crypt" rather 
than "encrypted" or "encryption" or whatever.


[1] I just discovered the '-s' command line flag to apropos. I am so 
happy; no more wading through reams of function man pages when I'm 
trying to find the man page for a program or a configuration file.



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Re: umask has no man page?

2014-11-03 Thread Alexis

Karl E. Jorgensen writes:

> Well, it *appears* that zsh is more helpful.  But only because the
> "which" command itself is a built-in for zsh  :-) (it isn't for bash)
>
> So you have the opposite problem: "man which" gives you the wrong
> manual page :-) (but presumably very similar)

Indeed you're correct: "man which" opens the man page for which(1),
which (!) i can then call thusly:

$ which which
which: shell built-in command

Great fun!

Thanks for the heads-up. :-)


Alexis.


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Re: hosts based open ssh authentication

2014-11-03 Thread Darac Marjal
On Sat, Nov 01, 2014 at 09:50:44PM +, Bhasker C V wrote:
> Hi all
> 
>  I have a system in a cluster (experimental) and there are a lot of
> debian machines which depend on this system and must be able to ssh into
> this system
> 
> I wanted password-less authentication and looked on the internet.
> Almost all the examples and help shown involves setting up
> ssh_known_hosts which I am trying to avoid (cumbersome in a large
> network where we dont know who will need access).
> 
> Anyone got this working just plain without adding known hosts ? I do not
> want to add each and every host to ssh_known_host. Essentially I want to
> have an open access to one of the servers via ssh.

It sounds like you want RFC4255 (SSHFP records)
http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4255

As I understand it, the SSH server publishes its fingerprint in DNS
records, which the client can query and verify, thus avoiding the "Would
you like to save this fingerprint" prompt.

> 
> I tried running sshd as root and adding
> 
> auth sufficient pam_rootok.so
> 
> to pam ssh and login
> but that did not help.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Bhasker C V
> 
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Re: Mount order after systemd update

2014-11-03 Thread Erwan David
On Mon, Nov 03, 2014 at 09:33:30AM CET, Jonathan de Boyne Pollard 
 said:
> Martin Manns:
> >After switching to systemd,  [...] password entry on startup looks
> > weird because some weird red moving stars are shown instead of a
> > prompt. [...] This is probably a configuration issue. However, I was
> > not able to find a good solution with google (between all the systemd
> > rants).
> 
> That's what you get when your first recourse is Google rather than the
> manual that comes with your software on your computer.  (-:  The manual
> pages that you should be reading are:
>   * man -S 5 crypttab  #
> (http://freedesktop.org./software/systemd/man/crypttab.html)
>   * man -S 8 systemd-cryptsetup-generator  # 
> (http://freedesktop.org./software/systemd/man/systemd-cryptsetup-generator.html)
>   * man -S 8 systemd-cryptse...@.service.html  # 
> (http://freedesktop.org./software/systemd/man/systemd-cryptse...@.service.html)


Sorry, but this doc should be available *before* migration, because it would 
render things unbootable to insall without configuring.

Same thing how to GUESS those names ?

systemd doc is awful.


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Re: Re: umask has no man page?

2014-11-03 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen
Hi

On Mon, Nov 03, 2014 at 01:56:36PM +1100, Alexis wrote:
> 
> Iain M Conochie writes:
> 
> > However:
> > 
> > $: which umask
> > $:
> > 
> > So umask is _not_ a program (in the sense that there is no binary
> > called umask on the system)
> 
> zsh, however, is more helpful:
> 
> $ which umask
> umask: shell built-in command

Well, it *appears* that zsh is more helpful.  But only because the
"which" command itself is a built-in for zsh  :-) (it isn't for bash)

So you have the opposite problem: "man which" gives you the wrong
manual page :-) (but presumably very similar)

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Re: Mount order after systemd update

2014-11-03 Thread Jonathan de Boyne Pollard

Martin Manns:

After switching to systemd,  [...] password entry on startup looks

> weird because some weird red moving stars are shown instead of a
> prompt. [...] This is probably a configuration issue. However, I was
> not able to find a good solution with google (between all the systemd
> rants).

That's what you get when your first recourse is Google rather than the 
manual that comes with your software on your computer.  (-:  The manual 
pages that you should be reading are:
  * man -S 5 crypttab  # 
(http://freedesktop.org./software/systemd/man/crypttab.html)
  * man -S 8 systemd-cryptsetup-generator  # 
(http://freedesktop.org./software/systemd/man/systemd-cryptsetup-generator.html)
  * man -S 8 systemd-cryptse...@.service.html  # 
(http://freedesktop.org./software/systemd/man/systemd-cryptse...@.service.html)


After reading them, you'll know that you should be finding out about 
password agents:

  * http://freedesktop.org./wiki/Software/systemd/PasswordAgents/

Plymouth is right there at the top of the list.

The official name for the "weird red moving stars" is "animated boot 
time output for hanging jobs".  But its unofficial name is the "systemd 
Cylon eye".  This is the part that is undocumented.  Your auto-generated 
systemd-cryptsetup@ jobs are of course hanging waiting for a response 
from the systemd RPC password prompting system that hands the passwords 
to them.  Since you don't have plymouth, you're using the rather less 
prettified fallback password prompter that comes bundled in the systemd 
package that doesn't work too well with other console output happening 
at the same time.  And again you have to start with reading the manual 
rather than with Google:
  * man -S 8 systemd-ask-password-console.service  # 
(http://freedesktop.org./software/systemd/man/systemd-ask-password-console.service.html)
  * man -S 1 systemd-tty-ask-password-agent  # 
(http://freedesktop.org./software/systemd/man/systemd-tty-ask-password-agent.html)


Yes, the plymouth documentation is from the Use The Source Luke school 
of badly written documentation.  You have to read the developer doco to 
even find a mention of the word "password", and even that's almost 
incidental.  Here's the source, Luke, for what it's worth:
  * 
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/plymouth/tree/systemd-units/systemd-ask-password-plymouth.service.in

  * http://cgit.freedesktop.org/plymouth/tree/docs/development.txt


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