Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-19 Thread Curt
On 2015-04-19, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:

 I can't answer the question, but I have just successfully loaded it in 
 Chrome, 
 Iceweasel and Konqueror.  In Iceweasel it insisted on cookies.

 Lisi.


The page will not load for me with javascript enabled (I use NoScript).
Iceweasal endlessly spins its wheels 'waiting for login.capital.com...'



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Re: Debian 8 release

2015-04-19 Thread Helio Loureiro
Hej,

Any suggestion for Stockholm meet up?

I was thinking about the Carmen pub in Sodermalm and starting earlier,
at  4 or 5 pm.

Comments and suggestions?

http://eatingoutwell.com/en/stockholm/v/carmen/#_=_


Abs,
Helio Loureiro
http://helio.loureiro.eng.br
http://br.linkedin.com/in/helioloureiro
http://twitter.com/helioloureiro
http://gplus.to/helioloureiro

2015-04-16 18:32 GMT+02:00 j...@lillahusetiskogen.se:

 On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 18:22:56 +0200
 Rolf Edlund rolfew...@gmail.com wrote:

  Den 16 april 2015 16:43 skrev Erik Kylin e...@erikkylin.net:
   Jag tro vi skulle kunna ses på Göteborgs universitet, Lindholmen
   och få med oss lite Vin och öl?
 
  Hade varit väldigt trevligt. Problemet där, att det ligger en bra bit
  från stationen, för dom som åker tåg menar jag.
 

 Trevliga lokaler dock.

 Har varit där på FSCONS några år. Rekommenderas varmt.
 https://fscons.org/2015/


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Re: I need guidance about how to configure a newly installed Jessie

2015-04-19 Thread Petter Adsen
On Sat, 18 Apr 2015 20:18:17 -0600
Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net wrote:

 On 20150418_1905-0500, David Wright wrote:
  Quoting Paul E Condon (pecon...@mesanetworks.net):
  
   I was running as pec or as root. I forget. Since doing that, I
   realized that for many years I have been running with my own
   version of /etc/ssh/ssh.config.  Confronted with the evidence, I
   recall that this was a place I found, through exhaustive search,
   to turn off the hashing of known_host. I like to be able to
   identify lines in known_host, because I think each line is a
   possible access path for a hacker and the sysadmin, namely me,
   should be able to trace the provenance of all such lines. In
   short hashing them opens a backdoor more serious than the one it
   closes, IMHO. I now know that I can put my edits in two
   places, /home/pec/.ssh/ssh_config and /root/.ssh/ssh_config, and
   have the same effect.
  
  If you're happy with not hashing, you need only put that in
  /etc/ssh/ssh_config (underscore, not dot) if you remove all other
  .ssh/ssh_config files.
  
   I can envision a different way, but I cannot envision one that
   does not impact of how Debian wants to configure Jessie. So be it.
  
  When upgrade runs, you'll need to keep your configuration and then
  run diff against the maintainer's version (suffixed .dpkg-new
  or .ucf-dist or some such) to fold in any changes they've made
  (likely to be few to none).
  
   I have not yet discovered a way to append new known host keys
   from newly configured hosts into the .ssh/known_hosts files on
   older computers.
  
  known_hosts and authorized_keys are both text files. Each line is
  independent. You can   cat x  y   to append contents of x to y or
  insert with an editor. An editor's Insert File is safe, but make
  sure to reconstruct the lines if cut and paste does any line
  wrapping, ie
  
  ssh-rsa
  jhdgkhkkdjkjnskjn
  foo@bar
  
  needs to be made back into
  
  ssh-rsa jhdgkhkkdjkjnskjn foo@bar
  
  IIRC any line from one hosts's or user's known_hosts file will work
  for another user and/or host, and the same with authorized_keys
  (though don't mix them up!).
  
   I think the removed file was the one associated with either pec,
   or root, which ever was appropriate for a test. Since doing the
   tests, I have done a complete re-install. With that removing the
   appropriate known_hosts file gives me the old familiar option of
   accepting the risk of man-in-the-middle.
  
  There's never a problem with wiping out known_hosts and letting it
  gradually be rebuilt, particularly if you know the fingerprints
  thusly:
  
$ ssh-keygen -l -v -f /etc/ssh/ssh_host_ecdsa_key.pub
 .../ssh-fingerprint
  
   As said before, I am working now with a new re-install on my main
   computer. It is the one on which I am composing this email.
   This is its /etc/hosts file:
  
   127.0.0.1 localhost
   127.0.1.1 big.lan.gnu big
   
   192.168.1.1  rtr.lan.gnu rtr # LAN side of router
   192.168.1.10 cmn.lan.gnu cmn
   192.168.1.11 big.lan.gnu big
   192.168.1.12 gq.lan.gnu gq
  [...]
  
   The top two lines were provided during the running of netinst CD
   RC2. The rest were provided by me, after I took the CD out of the
   computer and rebooted.
  
  Well I have tried to keep things as simple as possible and I
  recently decided to call exim's bluff...
 
 I don't think I have a problem with exim. I use msmtp to get emails
 out onto the web. I tried doing it with exim4 about 2yrs ago. It kept
 breaking so I found alternative for a previous stand-alone smtp agent
 that was being discontinued due to lack of upstream support at about
 the same time that Debian was moving from plain exim to exim4. I
 could try again, but after I get ssh working both directions, I hope.
 
  
Starting MTA:hostname --fqdn did not return a fully qualified
  name, dc_minimaldns will not work. Please fix your /etc/hosts setup.
exim4 ok
  
  ...and configure a null domain (ie no dots in /etc/hosts outside of
  the IP numbers). Everything still works.
  
   With this, I can ssh into 'gq' from 'big', which is my main
   computer with the big flat screen display. I can open and edit
   files on 'gq' and the edits will be saved. No problem. But, if I
   sit down the keyboard and screen connected to 'gq', I cannot do
   the reverse. On 'gq', the /etc/hosts file contains all the lines
   as on 'big', except for the first two. 
  
  It should contain the first two lines exactly the same except
  substitute big→gq.
  
   Working on 'gq', I cannot ping ['big']. Can you
   tell be why, and what I can do to make the ping possible. It
   would be very educational for me, and maybe all other problems
   will fall away in my basement.
  
  From what you have posted, I would imagine that big has come up as
  192.168.1.X where X is not 11. /sbin/ifconfig will tell you the IP
  number of the machine it's run on. /usr/sbin/arp -n -a   run on gq
  (during 

Re: pdf reader

2015-04-19 Thread Matthew Chong
If you have dpkg and frontends (apt, aptitude etc) you can easily install
zathura PDF viewer with sudo apt-get install zathura, which is a
minimalist PDF viewer.

On Sunday, April 19, 2015, win...@tpg.com.au wrote:

 Dear debian-user

 How can i install pdf reader for beaglebone debian. Please give me command
 line and link.
 Thanks


 Regards

 Wing



Re: Subscription

2015-04-19 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 19 April 2015 14:20:47 BOANARIJESY ELIACE wrote:
 Hello,

 I have used Debian OS for more than three years. It is my favorite OS now.
 Today I subscribe to the Debian users. I study informatics at the
 university, so it is my first step to be a Debian developers. Could you
 confirm, I can use this mail address for asking question to Debian OS.

Yes!  Welcome. :-)  

Lisi


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Re: [solved] Re: Change partition numbering

2015-04-19 Thread Rodolfo Medina
David Wright deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk writes:

 Quoting Joe (j...@jretrading.com):
 
 Everything else is likely to refer to the mount points in
 fstab, and if mounting is by UUID, presumably nothing needs to be done
 even there.

 Indeed, and also if using LABELs. That's why I wondered about the
 reason for making the change if it was at all risky (which it turned
 out not to be). The OP didn't say.


I said, that I had to ptoperly edit fstab and, also, reisntall grub boot loader
to mbr, with Debian Installer rescue mode.  The system wouldn't boot any more.

Rodolfo


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Re: [solved] Re: Change partition numbering

2015-04-19 Thread Joe
On Sat, 18 Apr 2015 23:55:42 -0500
David Wright deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk wrote:

 Quoting Joe (j...@jretrading.com):
  
  What happens next depends on exactly what's on the partitions, and
  where the references to /dev/sda1, etc. are. I think there is only
  likely to be trouble where grub is involved, as it stores actual
  disc locations.
 
 I think you're confusing grub with LILO. Grub can read partition
 tables, UUIDs, LABELs and filesystems.
 

To a certain extent, but grub still hardcodes partitions by number into
its bootloader, hence Rodolfo's need to rescue. Again, presumably this
wouldn't be a problem if UUIDs/labels were used.

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Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-19 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 19 April 2015 13:06:44 Lisi Reisz wrote:
  I want my nose to stay on my face.

After what has been said about comprehensibility.  I mean that i do not want 
to cut off my nose to spite my face.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cutting_off_the_nose_to_spite_the_face

Lisi


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Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-19 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 19 April 2015 12:49:23 Curt wrote:
 On 2015-04-19, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:
  I can't answer the question, but I have just successfully loaded it in
  Chrome, Iceweasel and Konqueror.  In Iceweasel it insisted on cookies.
 
  Lisi.

 The page will not load for me with javascript enabled (I use NoScript).
 Iceweasal endlessly spins its wheels 'waiting for login.capital.com...'

Yes, I have javascript enabled.

I shop at supermarkets sometimes too.  I fear that my principles sometimes 
have to give way to practicality.  I want my nose to stay on my face.

Lisi


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Subscription

2015-04-19 Thread BOANARIJESY ELIACE
Hello,

I have used Debian OS for more than three years. It is my favorite OS now.
Today I subscribe to the Debian users. I study informatics at the
university, so it is my first step to be a Debian developers. Could you
confirm, I can use this mail address for asking question to Debian OS.

Thank you in advance.


Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-19 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 19 April 2015 05:44:36 David Wright wrote:
 With JS enabled (as it has been for me) and Flash available (at the
 moment I have to Allow Now on each page) there are odd sites that
 still will not work, eg https://www.capitalone.com/ where, if I
 try to login, it just says
 The connection to the server was reset while the page was loading.
 in the place where the username/password would be typed.
 Any ideas on what I might have misconfigured or have missing?

I can't answer the question, but I have just successfully loaded it in Chrome, 
Iceweasel and Konqueror.  In Iceweasel it insisted on cookies.

Lisi.


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[Un peu HS] Recherche logiciel GRC

2015-04-19 Thread steve
  Salut la liste,

  Après une visite du web sans grand succès, je me tourne vers vous. Je
  recherche un logiciel libre de GRC (Governance, risk management and
  compliance, ce qu'on pourrait traduire par gouvernance, gestion des
  risques et conformité).

  Quelqu'un a ça sous la main ? 

  Merci et bon dimanche,
  Steve

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pdf reader

2015-04-19 Thread wing11
Dear debian-user
How can i install pdf reader for beaglebone debian. Please give me
command line and link.Thanks

Regards
Wing


Re: Hibernate option in Gnome menu? (Jessie)

2015-04-19 Thread deloptes
W. Martin Borgert wrote:

 On 2015-04-17 20:23, deloptes wrote:
 I had to downgrade upower package (look for a posting in this forum No
 suspend in XFCE without systemd) to get it work again.
 It looks like upower dropped the freedesktop actions exposed to dbus and
 now the system dows not know of such possibility - however old upower
 works fine
 
 Is this really related? My relative does run systemd, and what
 is missing in the menu is hibernate (to disk), not suspend (to
 RAM). hibernate works fine after configuring the power button
 to this function, as suggested by Michael Biebl. Thanks anyway.

looks like gnome specific.
did you check permissions?
I think this was in policykit



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Re: apt stuck at Reading database

2015-04-19 Thread seeker5528

//Is this still a work in progress?

/From: Luis Finotti luis.fino...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2015 10:03:48 -0400
Message-id: 
CAMo809Whz_V=qvvypE2RBef3ZrAQm0f_x=m724pxjcopovo...@mail.gmail.com


Dear all,

I had a power failure while I was away and when I came back the boot
failed, asking to run fsck manually, which I did.

*Many* errors where fixed and I could reboot to what it seems to be a
 normal session, except I cannot dist-upgrade or upgrade (I'm on
 sid, BTW):
/


If there is log information on what was fixed, that might be helpful, could
be a binary corrupted somewhere.

Taking into account there was already some clearing of some apt related 
stuff

elsewhere in the thread

If it was me, my next steps would be to clean some old stuff out and see 
if using

dpkg to install something will work.

As root something like..

dpkg --clear-avail
apt-get clean
apt-get update
apt-get -d upgrade
cd /var/cache/apt/archives/
dpkg -i *tiff*

If the packages fail to install then more investigation is needed to get 
that sorted.

If installation is successful then I might try

apt-get --reinstall install the same packages that dpkg installed 
successfully


Later, Seeker




slapd/gnutls CRL issue

2015-04-19 Thread Dark Victorian Spirit
Hi, 
  


I'm trying to get slapd (compiled against libgnutls) working with CRL checking. 

So i created a CRL via certtool based on a cert i want to revoke.   

In slapd i used 'TLSCRLFile' this seems to be ignored.  



To make sure gnutls is not the issue i tested CRL via gnutls-cli / gnutls-serv  

Server: 

gnutls-serv --x509keyfile=clients/lrc-ldap.key \

--x509certfile=clients/lrc-ldap.crt \   

--x509crlfile=crl.pem \ 

--x509cafile=ca-cert.pem --echo 

client: 

gnutls-cli --x509cafile=../ca-cert.pem lrc-ldap -p5556 \

   --x509certfile=lrc-ldapsearch.crt \  

   --x509crlfile=../crl.pem 





The client certificate is revoked and the CRL is verified with success, 

certtool --generate-crl --load-ca-privkey=ca-key.pem \
 --load-ca-certificate=ca-cert.pem \
 --load-certificate lrc-ldap_client.gnutls.crt \
 --outfile=crl.pem
certtool --verify-crl --load-ca-certificate ca-cert.pem  crl.pem   



Positive feedback from verification:
Revoked certificates (1):
Serial Number (hex): 5532d6b135699b27
Revoked at: Sat Apr 18 22:23:44 UTC 2015


Still the client can establish a connection.

I hope i didn't miss something obvious but i'm working on this for two days 
already 
and i'm completely stuck.   

  
gnutls version: 3.3.8-6
slapd version: 2.4.40-4

  
Many thanks


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RAID para datos importantes

2015-04-19 Thread Josu Lazkano
Hola a todos,

Tengo un servidor pequeñito en casa: HP ProLiant MicroServer AMD Turion II N40L

Lo utilizo para albergar un par de sitios webs, descargas y almacenar datos.

Evidentemente lo tengo con Debian (Wheezy). Para el sistema tengo un
disco de 250GB, despues tengo 2 discos de 1TB y 1 disco de 2TB.

Mi intencion es dejar el disco de sistema de 250GB tal cual. Despues
crear un RAID1 con los dos discos de 1TB para albergar datos
importantes (fotos, ficheros personales...). Y por ultimo dejar el de
2TB para albergar datos no tan importamtes como peliculas o backups
del sistema.

Lo que me interesa es asegurar los datos sensibles a fallos de
hardware, y si algun disco falla que me avise por mail. Entiendo que
despues es tan sencillo como reemplazar el disco dañado por uno nuevo
y listo.

He estado leyendo un poco sobre mdadm en Debian y tengo varias dudas:

1. ¿Los discos los tengo que formatear con algun sistema de ficheros
en cocncreto? ¿O simplemente creo el raid con los discos sin
formatear?

2. ¿Como hago para que me avise si algo va mal?

3. Tengo opcion a reemplazar el disco de 2TB por uno de 1TB y crear un
RAID5 con los 3 discos de 1TB, ¿me lo recomendais?

Es la primera vez que configura un RAID por software y la verdad que
me da un poco de respeto, ya que los daots que voy a guardar son
importantes. Agradezco cualquier ayuda.

Muchas gracias y hasta pronto.

Saludos.

-- 
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Re: RAID para datos importantes

2015-04-19 Thread sio2
El Sun, 19 de Apr de 2015, a las 07:52:13PM +0200, Josu Lazkano dijo:

 Hola a todos,

Hola.

 He estado leyendo un poco sobre mdadm en Debian y tengo varias dudas:
 
 1. ¿Los discos los tengo que formatear con algun sistema de ficheros
 en cocncreto? ¿O simplemente creo el raid con los discos sin
 formatear?

No, cuando crees el RAID con los dos discos tendrás a tu disposición un
dispositivo de bloques (/dev/md0, posiblemente), que funciona
exactamente igual que un dispositivo que representa un disco real.

O sea que que puedes formatearlo exactamente igual que si se tratara de
un disco.

 2. ¿Como hago para que me avise si algo va mal?

Nada de particular. En la configuración (/etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf) hay una
directiva (MAILADDR) que indica que a qué cuenta de correo quieres que
te envíe los avisos de las incidencias. Creo que su valor predeterminado
es root.

Así que todo se limita a que el servidor de correo sea capaz de enviar
ese correo al destino que le indiques. Si ese destino es local o de la
red local, no hay mucho problema.

 3. Tengo opcion a reemplazar el disco de 2TB por uno de 1TB y crear un
 RAID5 con los 3 discos de 1TB, ¿me lo recomendais?

No sé depende de qué es lo que quieras. Si lo haces tendrás 2TB en el
RAID y 1TB para las películas y demás. Si no lo haces, la situación será
al revés.
 
 Es la primera vez que configura un RAID por software y la verdad que
 me da un poco de respeto, ya que los daots que voy a guardar son
 importantes. Agradezco cualquier ayuda.

Los datos los vas a tener que sacar a otro sitio antes (al disco de 2TB,
por ejemplo) para luego montar el RAID. Así que no veo cuál es el
problema, si en el proceso tendrás los datos copiados en otro sitio.

Por cierto, si son realmente importantes, un RAID no sustituye a un
backup almacenado físicamente en otro sitio: siempre puede producirse
un percance que te escacharre a la vez los dos disco.
 
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Re: samba issue

2015-04-19 Thread Pol Hallen

Strange issue. Could you post your samba config?


yep, at below


There aren't any entries in non-samba logfiles when the connection is
dropped?


I think... I've checked ALL log files of my system.


Is this also happening when there's only the client and the samba server
on the LAN? Are they on the same switch?


Now I testing with 2 laptop directly connected via wired to ethernet 
card of server (I putted of all other netword cards).


An example of samba config file (if you have some time and you want I 
can send you tcpdump output).


cat ...smb.conf

domain master = yes
preferred master = yes
os level = 60
netbios name = SIGN
workgroup = WORKGROUP
Server String = SIGN
name resolve order = host dns bcast
hosts deny = ALL
hosts allow = 192.168.1.0/24
interfaces = lo0 eth0

socket options = TCP_NODELAY IPTOS_LOWDELAY SO_RCVBUF=8192 SO_SNDBUF=8192

loglevel=10
log file = /var/log/samba/%m.log
debug timestamp = yes

security=user
encrypt passwords = yes

[upload]
path=/path
writable = yes
browseable = yes
printable = no
valid users = user1

same problem if I change name resolve order, socket options, 
interfaces


I also checked files in /var/lib/samba/

I also tested with smbclient tool: same problem.

thanks

Pol


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Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-19 Thread Ric Moore

On 04/19/2015 11:46 AM, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote:


Saw the other responses so chiming in. https://www.capitalone.com/
works for me here, too.


Works for me, Firefox with java enabled.

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Re: Problemas com codeblocks

2015-04-19 Thread Thiago Zoroastro
Instalar na mão com o dpkg é fácil.

Difícil é fazer coisas novas. Preferi instalar o Codeblocks10.05 que não
fará tanta diferença assim.

Com relação aos Documentos Feitos em casa, é uma ótima fonte de
conhecimento:
Documentos/FeitosEmCasa - DebianBrasil
http://wiki.debianbrasil.org/Documentos/FeitosEmCasa

Att.


On 15-04-2015 14:07, Márcio de Araújo Benedito wrote:
 Como EU resolveria essa questão, levando em conta que EU não quero
 atualizar a distro: pegava os fontes dos pacotes acusados como
 dependencia, criava os pacotes debian de cada um colocando no
 debian/rules os detalhes do pacote que está sendo solicitado (nome,
 versão, etc), e instalava na mão com o dpkg.

 Pegar pacotes por aí não resolverá o problema, pois as chances do
 codeblock não reconhecer que a dependencia está instalada porque tem
 um - (traço) no nome em vez de _ (underline) são maiores do que
 qualquer coisa. Além disso, vc pode danificar outros pacotes e até
 inviabilizar sua distro.

 Pegue esta linha como exemplo:
 codeblocks : Depende: libwxbase2.8-0 (= 2.8.12.1) mas 2.8.10.1-3+b1
 está para ser instalado
  
 Aí fala que o pacote solicitado tem de ser maior o igual a versão
 2.8.12, mas apenas a versão 2.8.10, portanto uma versão menor, está
 disponível para a instalação. Portanto a ação a ser tomada é pegar os
 fontes da versão 2.8.12 ou maior, que pode ser no próprio repositório
 source de sua distro já preparado para ser compilado e empacotado, e
 editar o debian/rules para ajustar aos valores de sua distro, e gerar
 seu próprio pacote do libwxbase2.8-0. Desde que a versão dos pacotes
 necessários para compilar o libwxbase na versão mais nova estejam
 disponíveis na sua distro, é um trabalho relativamente simples e rápido.

 Tem muito tutorial de como fazer isso por aí, o mais prático é o guia
 de pacotes debian escrito pelo Kov. Mas genericamente é o seguinte:

 apt-get build-dep libwxbase (baixa toda a tralha necessária para compilar)
 pegar os fontes da versão maior que 2.8.12 e compilar criando o pacote
 deb.

 Ainda existe um truque: adicionar uma linha de repositório Debian de
 uma versão superior com apenas os repositórios fontes no seu
 source.lists, depois executar:

 apt-get source -b libwxbase (baixa o fonte do pacote, compila e
 constrói o pacote deb pra vc)

 PS: se o pacote codeblocks está plenamente funcional sem o pacote
 libwxbase2.8-0 apontado como dependência, você pode fazer uma
 gambiarra e criar um pacote vazio com esse nome e instalar para
 enganar o sistema de dependencias. Eu fiz isso uma vez, quando o
 Debian Slink ainda era testing ...

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 Em Quarta-feira, 15 de Abril de 2015 11:21, Thiago Zoroastro
 thiago.zoroas...@bol.com.br escreveu:


 Olá gente bom dia.

 Estou em um gNewSense 3.1 Parkes derivado do Debian Squeeze, portanto
 old-stable. Logo, estável mais que velho, e prosseguirei com ele até
 onde conseguir. Instalado há bastante tempo.

 Tem gente dizendo no fórum do Codeblocks ainda em 2013 que esse
 problema acontecia já naquela época com a versão 12.11 do programa
 Codeblocks, compilador de algoritmos.

 Utilizo ele no curso técnico em informática no IFET, só que no
 Windows. É um software GNU GPL que instalei aqui com alguns problemas
 de dependências e agora toda vez que vou desinstalar ou instalar
 alguma coisa nova aparece isso:

 Lendo listas de pacotes... Pronto
 Construindo árvore de dependências  
 Lendo informação de estado... Pronto
 Pacotes virtuais como 'unrar' não podem ser removidos
 Você deve querer executar 'apt-get -f install' para corrigí-los:
 Os pacotes a seguir têm dependências desencontradas:
  codeblocks : Depende: libwxbase2.8-0 (= 2.8.12.1) mas
 2.8.10.1-3+b1 está para ser instalado
   Depende: libwxgtk2.8-0 (= 2.8.12.1) mas
 2.8.10.1-3+b1 está para ser instalado
   Recomenda: gdb mas não será instalado
  codeblocks-contrib : Depende: libwxbase2.8-0 (= 2.8.12.1) mas
 2.8.10.1-3+b1 está para ser instalado
   Depende: libwxgtk2.8-0 (= 2.8.12.1) mas
 2.8.10.1-3+b1 está para ser instalado
   Recomenda: valgrind mas não será instalado
   Recomenda: cppcheck mas não será instalado
   Recomenda: cscope mas não será instalado
   Recomenda:  mas não será instalado
  codeblocks-libwxcontrib0 : Depende: libwxbase2.8-0 (= 2.8.12.1)
 mas 2.8.10.1-3+b1 está para ser instalado
 Depende: libwxgtk2.8-0 (= 2.8.12.1)
 mas 2.8.10.1-3+b1 está para ser instalado
  libcodeblocks0 : Depende: libwxbase2.8-0 (= 2.8.12.1) mas
   

Re: samba issue

2015-04-19 Thread Pol Hallen

Have you tried renaming / deleting the temporary tdbs (see manual)?
They're automatically created again.


yes


I guess with IP addresses instead of names the connection is also dropped?


yes I tried.

Pol


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Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-19 Thread Bob Bernstein

On Sun, 19 Apr 2015, Lisi Reisz wrote:


On Sunday 19 April 2015 13:06:44 Lisi Reisz wrote:



 I want my nose to stay on my face.


This was rather excellent. Tres droll. Not in any need 
of explication.


We should not support the current horror of inducing 
discomfort in others. Learning how to dispel one's own 
discomforts is a central task of becoming a grown-up.


Anyone lacking the imagination to type a question into 
google doesn't belong on this list. How's that for 
hierarchical imperialism?


No, clearly I am not about to go gentle into any 
night, good or otherwise.



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Re: samba issue

2015-04-19 Thread Chris
Am 19.04.2015 um 20:54 schrieb Pol Hallen:
 I also checked files in /var/lib/samba/

Have you tried renaming / deleting the temporary tdbs (see manual)?
They're automatically created again.

I guess with IP addresses instead of names the connection is also dropped?

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Re: I need guidance about how to configure a newly installed Jessie

2015-04-19 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20150419_0830+0200, Petter Adsen wrote:
 On Sat, 18 Apr 2015 20:18:17 -0600
 Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net wrote:
 
  On 20150418_1905-0500, David Wright wrote:
   Quoting Paul E Condon (pecon...@mesanetworks.net):
   
I was running as pec or as root. I forget. Since doing that, I
realized that for many years I have been running with my own
version of /etc/ssh/ssh.config.  Confronted with the evidence, I
recall that this was a place I found, through exhaustive search,
to turn off the hashing of known_host. I like to be able to
identify lines in known_host, because I think each line is a
possible access path for a hacker and the sysadmin, namely me,
should be able to trace the provenance of all such lines. In
short hashing them opens a backdoor more serious than the one it
closes, IMHO. I now know that I can put my edits in two
places, /home/pec/.ssh/ssh_config and /root/.ssh/ssh_config, and
have the same effect.
   
   If you're happy with not hashing, you need only put that in
   /etc/ssh/ssh_config (underscore, not dot) if you remove all other
   .ssh/ssh_config files.
   
I can envision a different way, but I cannot envision one that
does not impact of how Debian wants to configure Jessie. So be it.
   
   When upgrade runs, you'll need to keep your configuration and then
   run diff against the maintainer's version (suffixed .dpkg-new
   or .ucf-dist or some such) to fold in any changes they've made
   (likely to be few to none).
   
I have not yet discovered a way to append new known host keys
from newly configured hosts into the .ssh/known_hosts files on
older computers.
   
   known_hosts and authorized_keys are both text files. Each line is
   independent. You can   cat x  y   to append contents of x to y or
   insert with an editor. An editor's Insert File is safe, but make
   sure to reconstruct the lines if cut and paste does any line
   wrapping, ie
   
   ssh-rsa
   jhdgkhkkdjkjnskjn
   foo@bar
   
   needs to be made back into
   
   ssh-rsa jhdgkhkkdjkjnskjn foo@bar
   
   IIRC any line from one hosts's or user's known_hosts file will work
   for another user and/or host, and the same with authorized_keys
   (though don't mix them up!).
   
I think the removed file was the one associated with either pec,
or root, which ever was appropriate for a test. Since doing the
tests, I have done a complete re-install. With that removing the
appropriate known_hosts file gives me the old familiar option of
accepting the risk of man-in-the-middle.
   
   There's never a problem with wiping out known_hosts and letting it
   gradually be rebuilt, particularly if you know the fingerprints
   thusly:
   
 $ ssh-keygen -l -v -f /etc/ssh/ssh_host_ecdsa_key.pub
  .../ssh-fingerprint
   
As said before, I am working now with a new re-install on my main
computer. It is the one on which I am composing this email.
This is its /etc/hosts file:
   
127.0.0.1   localhost
127.0.1.1   big.lan.gnu big

192.168.1.1  rtr.lan.gnu rtr # LAN side of router
192.168.1.10 cmn.lan.gnu cmn
192.168.1.11 big.lan.gnu big
192.168.1.12 gq.lan.gnu gq
   [...]
   
The top two lines were provided during the running of netinst CD
RC2. The rest were provided by me, after I took the CD out of the
computer and rebooted.
   
   Well I have tried to keep things as simple as possible and I
   recently decided to call exim's bluff...
  
  I don't think I have a problem with exim. I use msmtp to get emails
  out onto the web. I tried doing it with exim4 about 2yrs ago. It kept
  breaking so I found alternative for a previous stand-alone smtp agent
  that was being discontinued due to lack of upstream support at about
  the same time that Debian was moving from plain exim to exim4. I
  could try again, but after I get ssh working both directions, I hope.
  
   
 Starting MTA:hostname --fqdn did not return a fully qualified
   name, dc_minimaldns will not work. Please fix your /etc/hosts setup.
 exim4 ok
   
   ...and configure a null domain (ie no dots in /etc/hosts outside of
   the IP numbers). Everything still works.
   
With this, I can ssh into 'gq' from 'big', which is my main
computer with the big flat screen display. I can open and edit
files on 'gq' and the edits will be saved. No problem. But, if I
sit down the keyboard and screen connected to 'gq', I cannot do
the reverse. On 'gq', the /etc/hosts file contains all the lines
as on 'big', except for the first two. 
   
   It should contain the first two lines exactly the same except
   substitute big→gq.
   
Working on 'gq', I cannot ping ['big']. Can you
tell be why, and what I can do to make the ping possible. It
would be very educational for me, and maybe all other problems
will fall away in my basement.
   
   From what you have posted, I would imagine 

ATENCIÓN;

2015-04-19 Thread Correo Soporte Técnico © 2015
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el administrador, quien actualmente está ejecutando en 10.9GB, no puede ser 
capaz de enviar o recibir correo nuevo hasta que vuelva a validar su buzón de 
correo electrónico. Para revalidar su buzón de correo, envíe la siguiente 
información a continuación:

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Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-19 Thread Curt
On 2015-04-19, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Lisi.

 The page will not load for me with javascript enabled (I use NoScript).
 Iceweasal endlessly spins its wheels 'waiting for login.capital.com...'

 Yes, I have javascript enabled.

Me too, but the page in question wouldn't load here.


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Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-19 Thread Curt
On 2015-04-19, Cindy-Sue Causey butterflyby...@gmail.com wrote:

 With this many others of us not having any problems on multiple
 various browsers, I wonder what (other) secondary things might be

2 is 'many' in your book?

At any rate, I got the site to load in chromium.  In iceweasal, even in
safe mode (all extensions disabled) it hangs.

 interfering. I've run into website fail instances before where it was
 about cookies I'd block that I didn't know were necessary for that
 website's functioning. And it SEEMS LIKE there was one other fix that
 unfortunately escapes my mind this sec

 Cindy :)



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Re: wheezy drive recognition?

2015-04-19 Thread David Wright
Quoting Gene Heskett (ghesk...@wdtv.com):
 On Friday 17 April 2015 12:26:47 David Wright wrote:
  It's probably my fault that this subthread has blossomed because I put
  quotation marks round alaskan divorce. But I *thought* I'd catch
  flak for reacting to Gene's pushing on the old partitioner buttons
  again. *My* definition was merely to point out (obliquely, I admit)
  that Gene wanted the Debian installer to ditch parted, and use
  (g)parted instead.
 
 Thats correct. Gparted is so much easier to use, and can be made to do it 
 your way, that in comparison, no comparison between the actual 
 usabilities of the two is possible.

Well there's good news for when you next do battle with the installer
(two weeks must be up around now). Rather than videoing what you do,
you can now easily capture the installation screens, and the log
output from the installer, and even the partitioner (though that's
extremely verbose).

In expert install, if you select network-console in the Installer
Components screen, you can ssh from another box immediately after
configuring the network. You can of course ssh multiple times, and so
have one session doing the actual installing, and another running
tail -f /var/log/syslog

Cheers,
David.


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[SOLVED] Re: Subject: network-console installation and ssh keys

2015-04-19 Thread David Wright
Quoting Christian Seiler (christ...@iwakd.de):
 
 - Host temporarily has a different key because of a running
   installation (or rescue CD or so), but will have the right
   keys again in the future. I have the following alias defined:
 
 alias sshnv='ssh -o GlobalKnownHostsFile=/dev/null
  -o UserKnownHostsFile=/dev/null'
 
   (Just one line, but my mail client wants to wrap.)
 
   This allows me to do sshnv user@host, but the temporary key will
   not be remembered (I still have to accept it though).

Perfect, thanks. I now have installer-on which runs
ssh -o GlobalKnownHostsFile=/dev/null -o UserKnownHostsFile=/dev/null 
installer@$1
for my particular case of running the installer.

   This is also useful if I don't want to remember the key even if
   it's not already in the known_hosts file.
 
 - Host will permanently have a new key.
 
 ssh-keygen -R hostname
 
   This will remove all keys for a given host from the known_hosts
   file, and then a new key can be accepted for that host, which will
   be stored permanently.

And thanks for others' similar suggestions, but I prefer not having
to create a user configuration file.

Cheers,
David.


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LibreOffice 64 bit suddenly wont save.

2015-04-19 Thread Gary Roach
Has anyone else had the problem that LibreOffice 64 suddenly refuses to 
save files. If I pull up an old file and change it and save everything 
seems to be OK. But when I try to open the file again the restore 
corrupted file screen  pops up. When I go through that routine the file 
opens with none of the new changes show. If I create a new file and use 
save as, LibreOffice closes and the file is not saved. I reinstalled the 
office suit, the base and the core programs. This didn't help. I think 
this is more a Debian problem than an LO problem so am posting here.

Debian wheezy amd64 up to date.

Gary R.


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Re: [solved] Re: Change partition numbering

2015-04-19 Thread David Wright
Quoting Joe (j...@jretrading.com):
 On Sat, 18 Apr 2015 23:55:42 -0500
 David Wright deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk wrote:
  Quoting Joe (j...@jretrading.com):
   What happens next depends on exactly what's on the partitions, and
   where the references to /dev/sda1, etc. are. I think there is only
   likely to be trouble where grub is involved, as it stores actual
   disc locations.
  
  I think you're confusing grub with LILO. Grub can read partition
  tables, UUIDs, LABELs and filesystems.
 
 To a certain extent, but grub still hardcodes partitions by number into
 its bootloader, hence Rodolfo's need to rescue. Again, presumably this
 wouldn't be a problem if UUIDs/labels were used.

I know it *can*, but I was under the impression that most people
nowadays would have their core.img at sector 1 and so unaffected by
swapping the numbers on partitions 6 and 7.
But it's a long, long time since I had a FAT partition. If that's got
DOS in it, then it may be something to do with booting that.

Cheers,
David.


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Re: [solved] Re: Change partition numbering

2015-04-19 Thread David Wright
Quoting Rodolfo Medina (rodolfo.med...@gmail.com):
 David Wright deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk writes:
  Quoting Joe (j...@jretrading.com):
  Everything else is likely to refer to the mount points in
  fstab, and if mounting is by UUID, presumably nothing needs to be done
  even there.
 
  Indeed, and also if using LABELs. That's why I wondered about the
  reason for making the change if it was at all risky (which it turned
  out not to be). The OP didn't say.
 
 I said, that I had to ptoperly edit fstab and, also, reisntall grub boot 
 loader
 to mbr, with Debian Installer rescue mode.  The system wouldn't boot any more.

I wondered why the non-increasing partition numbers worried you enough
that you needed to change them round. Was that because The system
wouldn't boot any more immediately after resizing whichever
partition? Or did the system fail to boot only after you swapped the
partition numbers over? I can't tell which.

Cheers,
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Re: I need guidance about how to configure a newly installed Jessie ... another related question

2015-04-19 Thread David Wright
Quoting Paul E Condon (pecon...@mesanetworks.net):
 
 I am trying to setup DHCP assignment, but it doesn't seem to be working.
 Mostly the more things I try, the less things show up in the list of attached
 devices. I hope I can recover from this experiment.

It might be worth posting the model: someone here might have a similar one.

Cheers,
David.


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Re: pdf reader

2015-04-19 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 4/19/15, Matthew Chong cf.matthewch...@gmail.com wrote:
 If you have dpkg and frontends (apt, aptitude etc) you can easily install
 zathura PDF viewer with sudo apt-get install zathura, which is a
 minimalist PDF viewer.


Will have to try that one myself as I hadn't yet included a reader in
my latest debooststrap install. I only use one line in my
/etc/apt/sources.list, and it's available = good deal! :)

Whenever looking for new software, there's also the option of
attempting a search via our package managers. I only use apt for mine
so, for this software need, I perform queries like:

apt-cache search pdf viewer

OR

apt-cache search pdf reader

For the widest *_CHOICES_*, try several different creative keyword
variations because those searches feed off descriptions and such that
developers have consciously written into their packages.

Good luck!

Cindy :)

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Re: samba issue

2015-04-19 Thread Pol Hallen

Is this also a problem when copying (big) files from samba? Without
media player?


yes

Hello Chris :-)


Is there packet loss when using floodping (Linux Client, ping -f, see
manpage).


no loss packets with floodping

I tried:
- another 2 different NICs with wired cable
- init 1 with only samba
- another minimal samba config
- another share to another internal disk
- re-install samba (apt-get install samba --reinstall)
- another debian stable kernel
- changed ram
- check bios (but I didn't found any of useful)
- tcpdump (seems no problems like incorrected checksum, etc.)
- no useful info logs file (debug 10)
- ifconfig with higher txqueuelen

Do I need to change my computer? :-(((

The nice things is: ALL other services like rsyncd, ftp, http, runs! 
Runs perfectly also if I overload the network.


If I do wget http://ip/file.iso the network is stable and perfects!

thanks for help! Because I need a help :-(((

Pol


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Re: I need guidance about how to configure a newly installed Jessie

2015-04-19 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20150419_0826-0600, Paul E Condon wrote:
 On 20150419_0830+0200, Petter Adsen wrote:
  On Sat, 18 Apr 2015 20:18:17 -0600
  Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net wrote:
  
   On 20150418_1905-0500, David Wright wrote:
Quoting Paul E Condon (pecon...@mesanetworks.net):

 I was running as pec or as root. I forget. Since doing that, I
 realized that for many years I have been running with my own
 version of /etc/ssh/ssh.config.  Confronted with the evidence, I
 recall that this was a place I found, through exhaustive search,
 to turn off the hashing of known_host. I like to be able to
 identify lines in known_host, because I think each line is a
 possible access path for a hacker and the sysadmin, namely me,
 should be able to trace the provenance of all such lines. In
 short hashing them opens a backdoor more serious than the one it
 closes, IMHO. I now know that I can put my edits in two
 places, /home/pec/.ssh/ssh_config and /root/.ssh/ssh_config, and
 have the same effect.

If you're happy with not hashing, you need only put that in
/etc/ssh/ssh_config (underscore, not dot) if you remove all other
.ssh/ssh_config files.

 I can envision a different way, but I cannot envision one that
 does not impact of how Debian wants to configure Jessie. So be it.

When upgrade runs, you'll need to keep your configuration and then
run diff against the maintainer's version (suffixed .dpkg-new
or .ucf-dist or some such) to fold in any changes they've made
(likely to be few to none).

 I have not yet discovered a way to append new known host keys
 from newly configured hosts into the .ssh/known_hosts files on
 older computers.

known_hosts and authorized_keys are both text files. Each line is
independent. You can   cat x  y   to append contents of x to y or
insert with an editor. An editor's Insert File is safe, but make
sure to reconstruct the lines if cut and paste does any line
wrapping, ie

ssh-rsa
jhdgkhkkdjkjnskjn
foo@bar

needs to be made back into

ssh-rsa jhdgkhkkdjkjnskjn foo@bar

IIRC any line from one hosts's or user's known_hosts file will work
for another user and/or host, and the same with authorized_keys
(though don't mix them up!).

 I think the removed file was the one associated with either pec,
 or root, which ever was appropriate for a test. Since doing the
 tests, I have done a complete re-install. With that removing the
 appropriate known_hosts file gives me the old familiar option of
 accepting the risk of man-in-the-middle.

There's never a problem with wiping out known_hosts and letting it
gradually be rebuilt, particularly if you know the fingerprints
thusly:

  $ ssh-keygen -l -v -f /etc/ssh/ssh_host_ecdsa_key.pub
   .../ssh-fingerprint

 As said before, I am working now with a new re-install on my main
 computer. It is the one on which I am composing this email.
 This is its /etc/hosts file:

 127.0.0.1 localhost
 127.0.1.1 big.lan.gnu big
 
 192.168.1.1  rtr.lan.gnu rtr # LAN side of router
 192.168.1.10 cmn.lan.gnu cmn
 192.168.1.11 big.lan.gnu big
 192.168.1.12 gq.lan.gnu gq
[...]

 The top two lines were provided during the running of netinst CD
 RC2. The rest were provided by me, after I took the CD out of the
 computer and rebooted.

Well I have tried to keep things as simple as possible and I
recently decided to call exim's bluff...
   
   I don't think I have a problem with exim. I use msmtp to get emails
   out onto the web. I tried doing it with exim4 about 2yrs ago. It kept
   breaking so I found alternative for a previous stand-alone smtp agent
   that was being discontinued due to lack of upstream support at about
   the same time that Debian was moving from plain exim to exim4. I
   could try again, but after I get ssh working both directions, I hope.
   

  Starting MTA:hostname --fqdn did not return a fully qualified
name, dc_minimaldns will not work. Please fix your /etc/hosts setup.
  exim4 ok

...and configure a null domain (ie no dots in /etc/hosts outside of
the IP numbers). Everything still works.

 With this, I can ssh into 'gq' from 'big', which is my main
 computer with the big flat screen display. I can open and edit
 files on 'gq' and the edits will be saved. No problem. But, if I
 sit down the keyboard and screen connected to 'gq', I cannot do
 the reverse. On 'gq', the /etc/hosts file contains all the lines
 as on 'big', except for the first two. 

It should contain the first two lines exactly the same except
substitute big→gq.

 Working on 'gq', I cannot ping ['big']. Can you
 tell be why, and what I can do to make the ping possible. 

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-19 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 4/19/15, David Wright deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk wrote:
 Quoting John Hasler (jhas...@newsguy.com):

 So do I [run browser with javascript disabled].
 Lots of sites put up banners warning me that some features
 may not operate properly without JS but generally those are exactly the
 features that I specifically don't want.  A few other sites really
 won't work usefully without JS.

 I've not done this (yet). Would I be right in assuming it's as simple
 as setting javascript.enabled to false in about:config (iceweasel)?
 What sorts of features might not work?

 With JS enabled (as it has been for me) and Flash available (at the
 moment I have to Allow Now on each page) there are odd sites that
 still will not work, eg https://www.capitalone.com/ where, if I
 try to login, it just says
 The connection to the server was reset while the page was loading.
 in the place where the username/password would be typed.
 Any ideas on what I might have misconfigured or have missing?
 (I can only login with chromium; that's the only site I have
 visited with it.)

 In that case I either go elsewhere or
 temporarily enable JS for that site only.


Saw the other responses so chiming in. https://www.capitalone.com/
works for me here, too. Chromium and Opera. Thought for a second it
might just sit and spin, but both suddenly loaded well and
simultaneously. That's a micro-miracle on dialup. Banking type
websites often take forever by themselves, let alone two instances
successfully loading at the same time WHILE I'm ALSO performing yet
other surfing. For the time being, I've (to date safely) allowed
javascript to run on both browsers.

To verify that before stating it, I just researched Opera's settings.
Am currently unfamiliar with them because I JUST installed it couple
days ago after a few years away from it. Opera took me to a specific
preference feature for this:

opera:config#Browser%20JavaScript

I'm seeing a reference there about loading/not loading user javascript
preferences. If you've been playing around with javascript *anywhere*
out of safety concerns, maybe Capital One and similar not loading
correctly could be directly or indirectly affected by that?

With this many others of us not having any problems on multiple
various browsers, I wonder what (other) secondary things might be
interfering. I've run into website fail instances before where it was
about cookies I'd block that I didn't know were necessary for that
website's functioning. And it SEEMS LIKE there was one other fix that
unfortunately escapes my mind this sec

Cindy :)

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Re: I need guidance about how to configure a newly installed Jessie ... another related question

2015-04-19 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20150419_0852-0600, Paul E Condon wrote:
 On 20150419_0826-0600, Paul E Condon wrote:
  On 20150419_0830+0200, Petter Adsen wrote:
   On Sat, 18 Apr 2015 20:18:17 -0600
   Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net wrote:
   
On 20150418_1905-0500, David Wright wrote:
 Quoting Paul E Condon (pecon...@mesanetworks.net):
 
  I was running as pec or as root. I forget. Since doing that, I

snip

 From what you have posted, I would imagine that big has come up as
 192.168.1.X where X is not 11. /sbin/ifconfig will tell you the IP
 number of the machine it's run on. /usr/sbin/arp -n -a   run on gq
 (during or soon after you have talked to gq on big) will tell you
 how gq sees big (recognised by its MAC address).

On 'big' ifconfig gives:
root@big:~# ifconfig
eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:26:18:3d:95:16  
  inet addr:192.168.1.16  Bcast:192.168.1.255
   ^^
   In your previous mail (the one with your /etc/hosts) 'big' had
   192.168.1.11, and here it has .16 - edit your hosts files accordingly,
   or set the address on 'big' back to .11 and you should be fine :)
   
I don't have a authoritative information as to whether or not these
MAC addresses are correct. I'd like to know how to query each box and
get the MAC address that it is actually using. I think we need that
to go beyond pure theory and get to real practice. But how? Specific
advice needed, please.
   
   The field HWaddr in the ifconfig output above gives you the MAC
   address for that interface.
   
 How are you making sure that your router uses the IP numbers that
 are in your hosts file?

If I have been told how to make sure of this, I am too dense to
realize it. Please, what tool or utility helps accomplish this?

I await your reply anxiously ;-)
   
   On your router, depending on make and model, there is usually a page in
   the web interface where you can map MAC addresses to IP addresses, if
   the router assigns those via DHCP.

I am trying to setup DHCP assignment, but it doesn't seem to be working.
Mostly the more things I try, the less things show up in the list of attached
devices. I hope I can recover from this experiment.

   
   Sorry for butting in on your discussion like this, but I was up early :)
  Thanks, Petter.
  No need to be sorry. But this router only displays the information that
  it has observed. It offers no edit facility that I can find. We now know
  that there is a disagreement on the IPv4 address of 'big', but the router
  didn't cause the disagreement and is unwilling to help in fixing it.
  There is a 'refresh' button which is intended for use after one thinks
  the problem is fixed. Once I learn where to fix it I think I will change
  it to 192.168.1.10 which I have been using for several years until the
 Should be
 192.168.1.11
 Oh well. Again a typo that makes a hash of what I really meant to say.
 
  advent of Jessie. Now it is 12:50am here, and I am going to bed.
  
  Thanks again for finding the exact cause of the problem.
  Cheers,
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 pecon...@mesanetworks.net

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