Re: An issue with the Debian installer

[Heracles]

On 26/09/15 12:14, LinuxAus . wrote:


One simple alternative is to download wukulu Linux which is Debian 
with the enlightenment desktop. Then let it upgrade. When I did it I 
ended up with a good Debian 8 system with everything working, my WiFi, 
my printers etc.



That should read Makulu Linux!

On 26/09/2015 10:38 AM, "Antti Talsta" > wrote:


On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 09:07:34PM +0200, Zack wrote:
> I do not understand why the installer do not install the desktop
environment
> (GNOME).

Maybe you didn't tell it to install it? I don't remember if DE is
selected by default during installation. Probably not cause at least
netinstall has many choices for DE/VM.

--
Antti Talsta

Re: Can't Log in

[ray]

Lisi,

I like the idea of changing the display manager.  I chose LXDE for sufficient 
functionality and light weight and because I have read the Gnome did not 
support remote desktop in jessie or stretch.  

Do you have a suggestion for choices?  Maybe it doesn't matter, I can always 
change.  That would seem to mean:
Start up a new dm,
delete LXDE,
install a new instance of LXDE

OK, I  logged into the user account with shell.  Instead of installing another 
dm, I used apt-get to remove and then autoremove LXDE in the shell.  After 
rebooting, I still could not graphically log in.

Logging on as root, I added myself in two user accounts with sudo rights.  Both 
of these can login graphically.  

So the simptoms are gone.  But I don't knnow how setup remote desktop, as that 
is where I broke my logon.

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Re: How to disable automatic mounting of CDROM?

[Richard Owlett]

Brian wrote:

On Sat 26 Sep 2015 at 11:27:46 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:


Brian wrote:

On Sat 26 Sep 2015 at 09:13:27 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:


I'm trying to troubleshoot a problem.
That Jessie (and IIRC Squeeze) automatically mount the cdrom drive every
time the drawer is closed is a nuisance requiring to manually run umount
before I can proceed.

/etc/fstab has noauto under options.


Probably nothing to do with your problem. From fstab(5)

   noauto do not mount when "mount -a" is given (e.g., at boot time)


Where else should I look.
I would prefer to disable on a per session basis.
Total disabling is acceptable.


Automounting is usually handled by the file manager of whatever DE you
are using.



I'm using Debian 8.0 with Mate as DE. There have been no updates installed
as internet is not physically available to that machine.


Updates wouldn't matter because they would not (or should not) alter
such a fundamental process.


I went to
Applications->System Tools->Caja then to
Edit->Preferences which displayed "File Management Preferences"
chose Media
   selected "Never prompt or start program on media insertion"
   deselected "Browse media when inserted"


Very useful. I think the deselection just stops the CD's contents being
displayed when the CD tray is closed and doesn't affect automounting.


It still mounts everything :<


I see what you mean.

Try

   gsettings set org.mate.media-handling automount false



"apparently" works
*NOTE BENE* the quotation marks
I ran one DVD
am now running a second

HOWEVER I suspect I've made system wide changes without being 
asked for root permission


*ALSO* it affected BOTH flash drives and CDs

http://manpages.debian.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=gsettings+&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=Debian+8+jessie&format=html&locale=en
*NOT* informative

It also does not address pre-systemd

Re: Gnome metapackage dependencies

[Karagkiaouris Diamantis]

No problem at all. I just want to verify my thoughts or share them. I 
also checkout the project and i am now after it. We will see.


Regards,
Diamantis

On 26.09.2015 20:43, David Wright wrote:

Quoting Karagkiaouris Diamantis (dkaragkiaou...@gmail.com):

i have a simple question which i already reported about gnome
metapackage and gnome-core. Why a simple removal of a text editor
gedit or gnome-music should ruin a fresh installation of Debian
Jessie? I mean after all is that a "marketing" strategy by promoting
a "gnome-ish" application or a couple applications over others? I
just want to use rhythmbox and remove gnome-music without destoying
gnome desktop.

Is there a problem with installing rhythmbox and leaving gedit and
gnome-music where they are?

Cheers,
David.



--
Diamantis G. Karagkiaouris
Software Engineer
European Dynamics, http://www.eurodyn.com/

Re: How to disable automatic mounting of CDROM?

[Brian]

On Sat 26 Sep 2015 at 11:27:46 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:

> Brian wrote:
> >On Sat 26 Sep 2015 at 09:13:27 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> >
> >>I'm trying to troubleshoot a problem.
> >>That Jessie (and IIRC Squeeze) automatically mount the cdrom drive every
> >>time the drawer is closed is a nuisance requiring to manually run umount
> >>before I can proceed.
> >>
> >>/etc/fstab has noauto under options.
> >
> >Probably nothing to do with your problem. From fstab(5)
> >
> >   noauto do not mount when "mount -a" is given (e.g., at boot time)
> >
> >>Where else should I look.
> >>I would prefer to disable on a per session basis.
> >>Total disabling is acceptable.
> >
> >Automounting is usually handled by the file manager of whatever DE you
> >are using.
> >
> 
> I'm using Debian 8.0 with Mate as DE. There have been no updates installed
> as internet is not physically available to that machine.

Updates wouldn't matter because they would not (or should not) alter
such a fundamental process.

> I went to
> Applications->System Tools->Caja then to
> Edit->Preferences which displayed "File Management Preferences"
> chose Media
>   selected "Never prompt or start program on media insertion"
>   deselected "Browse media when inserted"

Very useful. I think the deselection just stops the CD's contents being
displayed when the CD tray is closed and doesn't affect automounting.

> It still mounts everything :<

I see what you mean.

Try

  gsettings set org.mate.media-handling automount false

Re: Boxed W8/W10 PC; must anything be done, first, to enable dual-bootable later?

[David Christensen]

On 09/26/2015 08:03 AM, Ron Leach wrote:

On 22/09/2015 02:30, David Christensen wrote:

On 09/19/2015 05:17 AM, Eike Lantzsch wrote:

First of all I'd do a complete disk image

+1
Do this before you boot Windows for the first time.
I typically use 'dd' and/or 'gzip', as they are included in the rescue
tools on Debian installation media.

I'm part way there.  I can boot into a live Debian, but Debian doesn't
see the SDD HD; the only (meaningful?) entry in /dev is +sda (my boot
USB / live Debian stick), followed by -sg0.  Parted 'Print Devices' only
lists '/dev/sda'.  dmesg does not record any other device. ...
[1] HP Stream 11 Notebook PC
http://h20195.www2.hp.com/v2/default.aspx?cc=ie&lc=en&oid=8245635


The computer specifications indicate:

Storage 32 GB eMMC


Here is information on eMMC devices:


http://www.howtogeek.com/196541/emmc-vs.-ssd-not-all-solid-state-storage-is-equal/

http://www.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/sb/CS-034803.htm


I assume that the eMMC device is soldered onto the motherboard.  That 
precludes removing the device, put it into another computer, and having 
your way with it...



So, you need to find a live CD/ USB stick that includes support for eMMC 
-- e.g. according to Intel, a Linux kernel with the mmc_block module.



One trick I've found useful is to install Debian onto a USB flash drive 
instead of a HDD/ SSD/ SSHD.  (I prefer SanDisk Ultra Fit USB 3.0 flash 
drives for their compact size, low cost, and decent speed.)  This can be 
done on any computer with suitable BIOS, CD, DVD, and/or USB 
capabilities.  I can then put the USB live drive into any machine that 
supports booting/ running from USB and get most of the functionality of 
a regular Debian system.



David

Re: How to disable automatic mounting of CDROM?

[rlharris]

...
>>> Jessie ... automatically mounts the cdrom drive
>>> every time the drawer is closed is a nuisance requiring to manually
>>> run umount before I can proceed.

I have a similar experience when plugging in an external USB drive.  I
wish to mount each of several drives at a particular mount point which is
unique to the drive, and not at the next available generic mount point
"/dev/usb..."  And the fact that I have connected a USB drive does not
mean that I wish to mount it.

RLH

Re: Gnome metapackage dependencies

[Brian]

On Sat 26 Sep 2015 at 20:22:58 +0300, Karagkiaouris Diamantis wrote:

> You mean that i have to do a minimal install of debian without adding the
> metapackage on installation and then add gnome manually? Is there any info /
> guide on this?

No. I mean that that packages which 'apt-get autoremove' wants to remove
can be left untouched by marking them as manually installed. apt-mark is
a useful program for this.

Re: Boxed W8/W10 PC; must anything be done, first, to enable dual-bootable later?

[Pascal Hambourg]

Ron Leach a écrit :
> 
> I've loaded the basic (non graphical) Jessie 8.2 Live CDimage on a USB 
> stick.
> 
> Sadly, this doesn't contain mc, so using the basic command line in 
> /dev I do see a number of (possibly) relevant entries:
> 
> mmcblk0  ; note the 0, there is no entry without a digit
> mmcblk0boot0
> mmcblk0boot1
> mmcblk0p1
> mmcblk0p2
> mmcblk0p3
> mmcblk0p4
> 
> The 'boot' part of the name mmcblk0 makes me wonder if this is a 
> device that Debian names 'mmcblk0'.  Is this a clue?

mmcblkN is the device name of MMC/SD cards, so the SDD could be viewed
as this type of device. You can check in /proc/partitions if the device
size matches the size of the SSD.

Re: Boxed W8/W10 PC; must anything be done, first, to enable dual-bootable later?

[Ron Leach]

On 26/09/2015 17:53, Pascal Hambourg wrote:

Ron Leach a écrit :

On 26/09/2015 16:40, Pascal Hambourg wrote:

Does "lspci -nnk" show any SATA/IDE/AHCI/RAID controller and associated
kernel module ?


I think so.  The machine is not networked, but redirecting the output
to /home lets me view the file, and I see:

SD host controller Intel .. MIPI-HSI controller [8086:0f50]
Subsystem HP company device [103c:8023]
Kernel driver: sdhci-pci


This rather looks like a Secure Digital controller (for SD card reader).



Pascal, I've found the SDD HD, using the Jessie Live CD image 
'standard', i386


sudo fdisk -l
gives:

Disk /dev/mmcblk0: 29.1 GiB ...
...
Disklabel type: gpt

then lists 4 devices, with the names I posted earlier, in its 
'devices' table.


Fdisk also then reports 2 other 4MiB disks (not devices, so not in the 
partition table?), named

mmcblk0boot1
mmcblk0boot0

I'm checking the sector counts to see if the basic disk
/dev/mmcblk0
includes those 2 mmcblk0boot* disks.

Ron

Re: iceowl eating up all my CPU

[Paolo Cavallini]

On 2015-09-26 19:48, Paolo Cavallini wrote:

Hi all,
I installed iceowl this morning, configured my google calendar
account, and my machine is almost stuck since, with cpu rocketing at
100% forever, and iceweasel practically not responding.
Is this a known problem? Any workaround?


Might be related to this:
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=733047
Anyone confirms?
Thanks.
--
Paolo Cavallini - Faunalia
www.faunalia.eu
Full contact details at www.faunalia.eu/pc
Nuovi corsi QGIS e PostGIS: http://www.faunalia.it/calendario

Re: Enscript and unicode, was Re: is a2ps broken?

[David Wright]

Quoting rlhar...@oplink.net (rlhar...@oplink.net):
> On Fri, September 25, 2015 11:34 pm, David Wright wrote:
> > The OP thanked me for my first post which suggested what might cause
> > problems in a2ps, but AFAICT gave no feedback on whether it was any help.
> > Presumably not, hence his move to enscript.
> ...
> > He appears not to be interested in unicode ("Fooey on unicode, then.")
> 
> Hi, David.
> 
> Your comments were helpful; they told me what I needed to know -- that
> a2ps is broken with respect to unicode.  I did not see what to do to a2ps,
> much less, how to do it.  So, having a pressing need, I abandoned a2ps and
> with relatively little effort I managed to get enscript configured to my
> liking.
> 
> I suppose that, running Jessie, I am using unicode, but that aspect of
> Linux is something I never have studied, and at present I do not have time
> to study.  I simply must use whatever representation the Debian team has
> decided to employ; but I do regret losing a2ps, which, for a number of
> years, worked well "right out of the box".
> 
> However, whatever the representation used in Jessie, enscript is working
> for me.

Fortunately linux chose utf8 to represent unicode (unlike 'doze) so
you get compatible behaviour if you're not too adventurous with your
characters. In my case, once TeX went to unicode, I could throw out
obscure incantations and sizeable lookup tables from my style files
and just put the characters I wanted to print into the source files.
My other major application, LilyPond, originating much later and
outside the US, was designed with Latin-1, then replaced by unicode
in 2005. It's a major advantage being able to write curly quotes etc
as they are to appear. In fact, I can't imagine going back to the old
methods.

I'm lucky in that I no longer need to prettyprint stuff like source
code and emails any more. I hope enscript lasts you a while; changing
over is a wrench (as I remember, when a2ps's options changed a good
deal between bo and hamm).

Cheers,
David.

iceowl eating up all my CPU

[Paolo Cavallini]

Hi all,
I installed iceowl this morning, configured my google calendar account, 
and my machine is almost stuck since, with cpu rocketing at 100% 
forever, and iceweasel practically not responding.

Is this a known problem? Any workaround?
Thanks a lot.

--
Paolo Cavallini - Faunalia
www.faunalia.eu
Full contact details at www.faunalia.eu/pc
Nuovi corsi QGIS e PostGIS: http://www.faunalia.it/calendario

Re: Gnome metapackage dependencies

[David Wright]

Quoting Karagkiaouris Diamantis (dkaragkiaou...@gmail.com):
> i have a simple question which i already reported about gnome
> metapackage and gnome-core. Why a simple removal of a text editor
> gedit or gnome-music should ruin a fresh installation of Debian
> Jessie? I mean after all is that a "marketing" strategy by promoting
> a "gnome-ish" application or a couple applications over others? I
> just want to use rhythmbox and remove gnome-music without destoying
> gnome desktop.

Is there a problem with installing rhythmbox and leaving gedit and
gnome-music where they are?

Cheers,
David.

Re: Gnome metapackage dependencies

[Karagkiaouris Diamantis]

Hello,

You mean that i have to do a minimal install of debian without adding 
the metapackage on installation and then add gnome manually? Is there 
any info / guide on this?


Thank you,
Diamantis

On 26.09.2015 18:07, Brian wrote:

On Sat 26 Sep 2015 at 00:31:10 +0300, Karagkiaouris Diamantis wrote:


i have a simple question which i already reported about gnome metapackage
and gnome-core. Why a simple removal of a text editor gedit or gnome-music
should ruin a fresh installation of Debian Jessie? I mean after all is that
a "marketing" strategy by promoting a "gnome-ish" application or a couple
applications over others? I just want to use rhythmbox and remove
gnome-music without destoying gnome desktop.

Mark affected packages as manually installed.



--
Diamantis G. Karagkiaouris
Software Engineer
European Dynamics, http://www.eurodyn.com/

Re: Boxed W8/W10 PC; must anything be done, first, to enable dual-bootable later?

[Ron Leach]

On 26/09/2015 17:53, Pascal Hambourg wrote:


If you boot Windows, open the device manager and select "display by
connection" (or so), can you see the device chain up to the disk ?



Hehe.  Pascal, this is before Windows has ever run; my objective is to 
image the SDD HD *before* I run Windows for the very first time, 
stabilise it, shrink it, and install Debian.


I'm at stage 1; getting a Debian running with which I can dd the SDD 
HD to a fresh, large, USB stick.  I've got Debian, and dd, but I don't 
seem to have an SSD HD right now. :)


I'm going to try to post the lspci output in full, anyway, as soon as 
I can get it off the (non-networked) machine.


Ron

Re: Boxed W8/W10 PC; must anything be done, first, to enable dual-bootable later?

[Ron Leach]

On 26/09/2015 17:58, The Wanderer wrote:

On 2015-09-26 at 12:42, Ron Leach wrote:


I see:

SD host controller Intel .. MIPI-HSI controller [8086:0f50]
Subsystem HP company device [103c:8023]
Kernel driver: sdhci-pci


This is not a SATA/etc. controller; it appears to be an SD-card
controller.



Very possibly; the machine has a separate SD card slot.

The HD is solid state, I think it's referred to as an SSD.


I've loaded the basic (non graphical) Jessie 8.2 Live CDimage on a USB 
stick.


Sadly, this doesn't contain mc, so using the basic command line in 
/dev I do see a number of (possibly) relevant entries:


mmcblk0  ; note the 0, there is no entry without a digit
mmcblk0boot0
mmcblk0boot1
mmcblk0p1
mmcblk0p2
mmcblk0p3
mmcblk0p4

as well as

sda
sda1 ; being the Live USB image

The 'boot' part of the name mmcblk0 makes me wonder if this is a 
device that Debian names 'mmcblk0'.  Is this a clue?




At a glance based on descriptions so far, it looks as if the UEFI is not
passing the existence of the hard drives on to the OS, for whatever reason.

Could you provide the full 'lspci -nnk' output, just in case there's a
detail that's not being noticed as relevant?



I'll have a try at doing this.  The m/c isn't networked, but I'll put 
an SD card in and see if I can copy the full output onto that, and 
then post it.


regards, Ron

Re: Boxed W8/W10 PC; must anything be done, first, to enable dual-bootable later?

[Pascal Hambourg]

Ron Leach a écrit :
> On 26/09/2015 16:40, Pascal Hambourg wrote:
>> Does "lspci -nnk" show any SATA/IDE/AHCI/RAID controller and associated
>> kernel module ?
> 
> I think so.  The machine is not networked, but redirecting the output 
> to /home lets me view the file, and I see:
> 
> SD host controller Intel .. MIPI-HSI controller [8086:0f50]
> Subsystem HP company device [103c:8023]
> Kernel driver: sdhci-pci

This rather looks like a Secure Digital controller (for SD card reader).

> Encryption controller Intel .. SEC [8086:0f18]
> Subsystem HP company device [103c:8023]
>no  kernel  driver
> (my entry, there is no line here describing kernel driver)
> 
> Last three HW subsystems also do not have a driver:
> ISA bridge Power Control Unit
> SMBus Controller
> Broadcom BCM43142 wifi

AFAICS, nothing to do with a disk controller either. Can you post the
complete output ?

If you boot Windows, open the device manager and select "display by
connection" (or so), can you see the device chain up to the disk ?

Re: Boxed W8/W10 PC; must anything be done, first, to enable dual-bootable later?

[The Wanderer]

On 2015-09-26 at 12:42, Ron Leach wrote:

> On 26/09/2015 16:40, Pascal Hambourg wrote:
>
>> Does "lspci -nnk" show any SATA/IDE/AHCI/RAID controller and associated
>> kernel module ?
> 
> I think so.  The machine is not networked, but redirecting the output 
> to /home lets me view the file, and I see:
> 
> SD host controller Intel .. MIPI-HSI controller [8086:0f50]
> Subsystem HP company device [103c:8023]
> Kernel driver: sdhci-pci

This is not a SATA/etc. controller; it appears to be an SD-card
controller.

> Encryption controller Intel .. SEC [8086:0f18]
> Subsystem HP company device [103c:8023]
>no  kernel  driver
> (my entry, there is no line here describing kernel driver)

This is also not a SATA controller; it appears to be a TPM or similar.

On my system, 'lspci -nnk | grep -A 2 SATA' reports:


00:1f.2 SATA controller [0106]: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family)
SATA AHCI Controller [8086:3a22]
Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. P5Q Deluxe Motherboard [1043:82d4]
Kernel driver in use: ahci
--
01:00.0 SATA controller [0106]: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88SE9123
PCIe SATA 6.0 Gb/s controller [1b4b:9123] (rev 11)
Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device [1043:8438]
Kernel driver in use: ahci
--
07:00.0 SATA controller [0106]: JMicron Technology Corp. JMB362 SATA
Controller [197b:2362] (rev 10)
Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. P8P67 Deluxe Motherboard
[1043:8460]
Kernel driver in use: ahci


I.e., the SATA controllers are identified with the label "SATA
controller". I suspect that this will be true on most systems.

> Looking back at the encryption hardware, are the Windows 8.1 SDDs 
> encrypted?  Or is that HW used only for video DRM etc?

At a glance based on descriptions so far, it looks as if the UEFI is not
passing the existence of the hard drives on to the OS, for whatever reason.

Could you provide the full 'lspci -nnk' output, just in case there's a
detail that's not being noticed as relevant?

-- 
   The Wanderer

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persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all
progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw



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Re: Searching for MAAS equivalen

[Curt]

On 2015-09-26, Brian  wrote:
> On Sat 26 Sep 2015 at 15:45:54 +, Curt wrote:
>
>> On 2015-09-26, Brian  wrote:
>> >
>> > No offence taken here; it's a 10 second search to discover what MAAS is.
>> > Debian doesn't seem to have an equivalent. 
>> >
>> 
>> That's what I found out in thirty seconds (I admire your celerity).
>
> Thanks. I spend a lot of time on improving my vegetable patch.
>

I've dyed my American roots, but I still eat them with peanut butter
slathered in the groove.

Re: Boxed W8/W10 PC; must anything be done, first, to enable dual-bootable later?

[Ron Leach]

On 26/09/2015 16:40, Pascal Hambourg wrote:


Does "lspci -nnk" show any SATA/IDE/AHCI/RAID controller and associated
kernel module ?




I think so.  The machine is not networked, but redirecting the output 
to /home lets me view the file, and I see:


SD host controller Intel .. MIPI-HSI controller [8086:0f50]
Subsystem HP company device [103c:8023]
Kernel driver: sdhci-pci

Encryption controller Intel .. SEC [8086:0f18]
Subsystem HP company device [103c:8023]
  no  kernel  driver
(my entry, there is no line here describing kernel driver)

Last three HW subsystems also do not have a driver:
ISA bridge Power Control Unit
SMBus Controller
Broadcom BCM43142 wifi

Looking back at the encryption hardware, are the Windows 8.1 SDDs 
encrypted?  Or is that HW used only for video DRM etc?


regards, Ron

Re: How to disable automatic mounting of CDROM?

[Richard Owlett]

Brian wrote:

On Sat 26 Sep 2015 at 09:13:27 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:


I'm trying to troubleshoot a problem.
That Jessie (and IIRC Squeeze) automatically mount the cdrom drive every
time the drawer is closed is a nuisance requiring to manually run umount
before I can proceed.

/etc/fstab has noauto under options.


Probably nothing to do with your problem. From fstab(5)

   noauto do not mount when "mount -a" is given (e.g., at boot time)


Where else should I look.
I would prefer to disable on a per session basis.
Total disabling is acceptable.


Automounting is usually handled by the file manager of whatever DE you
are using.



I'm using Debian 8.0 with Mate as DE. There have been no updates 
installed as internet is not physically available to that machine.


I went to
Applications->System Tools->Caja then to
Edit->Preferences which displayed "File Management Preferences"
chose Media
  selected "Never prompt or start program on media insertion"
  deselected "Browse media when inserted"

It still mounts everything :<

Anything else?

Re: Nautilus classic search in Jessie?

[/ vt]

Ok .. CTRL+S is interesting - it does what I want. I am still baffled by
developers' decision to change the default behavior.
Thanks for pointing this out. I will see if I can live with it.

On Sat, Sep 26, 2015 at 6:18 PM, Sven Arvidsson  wrote:

> On Sat, 2015-09-26 at 17:17 +0300, / vt wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I switched from Debian 7 to Debian 8. The nautilus file browser is
> > now
> > updated and I am particularly interested in removing one of its new
> > features. The new 'search as you type' feature does not make sense to
> > me.
> > If I wanted to search for a file starting down from the current
> > directory I
> > would expect to hit CTRL+F or just use the terminal. And while
> > browsing
> > through the file system I would expect that I select files when I
> > type on
> > the keyboard, not search for them recursively. This is slow and
> > breaks user
> > experience. At least that's my point of view. So, do you know how I
> > can get
> > the "old" search back. I tried
> >
> > gsettings set org.gnome.nautilus.preferences enable-interactive
> > -search true
> >
> >
> > but it seems that there is no such key in Debian - I read this in an
> > Ubuntu
> > forum. I got used to Nautilus so I would like to continue using it.
> > But if
> > there is no way to get the old search back I will switch to something
> > orthodox that can do it.
>
> There is Ctrl + S that is quite handy. Otherwise you might try the
> different forks of Nautilus provided by other desktop environments,
> Nemo and Caja (I think?).
>
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Sven Arvidsson
> http://www.whiz.se
> PGP Key ID 6FAB5CD5
>
>
>
>

Re: Searching for MAAS equivalen

[Brian]

On Sat 26 Sep 2015 at 15:45:54 +, Curt wrote:

> On 2015-09-26, Brian  wrote:
> >
> > No offence taken here; it's a 10 second search to discover what MAAS is.
> > Debian doesn't seem to have an equivalent. 
> >
> 
> That's what I found out in thirty seconds (I admire your celerity).

Thanks. I spend a lot of time on improving my vegetable patch.

Re: Boxed W8/W10 PC; must anything be done, first, to enable dual-bootable later?

[Pascal Hambourg]

Ron Leach a écrit :
> 
> I'm part way there.  I can boot into a live Debian, but Debian doesn't 
> see the SDD HD; the only (meaningful?) entry in /dev is +sda (my boot 
> USB / live Debian stick), followed by -sg0.  Parted 'Print Devices' 
> only lists '/dev/sda'.  dmesg does not record any other device. 

Does "lspci -nnk" show any SATA/IDE/AHCI/RAID controller and associated
kernel module ?

Re: Searching for MAAS equivalen

[Curt]

On 2015-09-26, Brian  wrote:
>
> No offence taken here; it's a 10 second search to discover what MAAS is.
> Debian doesn't seem to have an equivalent. 
>

That's what I found out in thirty seconds (I admire your celerity).

Re: Nautilus classic search in Jessie?

[Sven Arvidsson]

On Sat, 2015-09-26 at 17:17 +0300, / vt wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I switched from Debian 7 to Debian 8. The nautilus file browser is
> now
> updated and I am particularly interested in removing one of its new
> features. The new 'search as you type' feature does not make sense to
> me.
> If I wanted to search for a file starting down from the current
> directory I
> would expect to hit CTRL+F or just use the terminal. And while
> browsing
> through the file system I would expect that I select files when I
> type on
> the keyboard, not search for them recursively. This is slow and
> breaks user
> experience. At least that's my point of view. So, do you know how I
> can get
> the "old" search back. I tried
> 
> gsettings set org.gnome.nautilus.preferences enable-interactive
> -search true
> 
> 
> but it seems that there is no such key in Debian - I read this in an
> Ubuntu
> forum. I got used to Nautilus so I would like to continue using it.
> But if
> there is no way to get the old search back I will switch to something
> orthodox that can do it.

There is Ctrl + S that is quite handy. Otherwise you might try the
different forks of Nautilus provided by other desktop environments,
Nemo and Caja (I think?).


-- 
Cheers,
Sven Arvidsson
http://www.whiz.se
PGP Key ID 6FAB5CD5





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Re: How to disable automatic mounting of CDROM?

[Brian]

On Sat 26 Sep 2015 at 09:13:27 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:

> I'm trying to troubleshoot a problem.
> That Jessie (and IIRC Squeeze) automatically mount the cdrom drive every
> time the drawer is closed is a nuisance requiring to manually run umount
> before I can proceed.
> 
> /etc/fstab has noauto under options.

Probably nothing to do with your problem. From fstab(5)

  noauto do not mount when "mount -a" is given (e.g., at boot time)
 
> Where else should I look.
> I would prefer to disable on a per session basis.
> Total disabling is acceptable.

Automounting is usually handled by the file manager of whatever DE you
are using.

Re: Searching for MAAS equivalen

[Brian]

On Sat 26 Sep 2015 at 19:54:10 +0530, Himanshu Shekhar wrote:

> Ok! No offence! :)
> MAAS(Metal as a Service) is something which can be used to boot and control
> multiple servers from a single system. A single change in one can be
> deployed across all the servers on the network.
> Why I occasionally ask questions about Ubuntu, is just because I am a
> student who loves Debian but continuously tries to experiment all sorts of
> software on his machine, and Ubuntu was how I was introduced to Linux but
> switched to Debian cause it was the real OS.
> That's all!
> 
> On Sat, Sep 26, 2015 at 5:21 PM, Lisi Reisz  wrote:
> 
> > On Thursday 24 September 2015 13:05:16 Himanshu Shekhar wrote:
> > > Is there anything equivalent to MAAS, with which we can handle multiple
> > > servers from a single system, as provided in Ubuntu Server?
> > > If yes, then please provide the package name.
> >
> > Himanshu,
> >
> > Could you possibly ask questions without requiring us to look up all sorts
> > of
> > things to find out what oyu are talking about.  You can't reasonably expect
> > all of us to install Ubuntu Server in order to find out how it can do what.
> > This is the Debian list.
> >
> > Lisi

No offence taken here; it's a 10 second search to discover what MAAS is.
Debian doesn't seem to have an equivalent. 

Re: Gnome metapackage dependencies

[Brian]

On Sat 26 Sep 2015 at 00:31:10 +0300, Karagkiaouris Diamantis wrote:

> i have a simple question which i already reported about gnome metapackage
> and gnome-core. Why a simple removal of a text editor gedit or gnome-music
> should ruin a fresh installation of Debian Jessie? I mean after all is that
> a "marketing" strategy by promoting a "gnome-ish" application or a couple
> applications over others? I just want to use rhythmbox and remove
> gnome-music without destoying gnome desktop.

Mark affected packages as manually installed.

Re: Boxed W8/W10 PC; must anything be done, first, to enable dual-bootable later?

[Ron Leach]

On 22/09/2015 02:30, David Christensen wrote:

On 09/19/2015 05:17 AM, Eike Lantzsch wrote:

First of all I'd do a complete disk image


+1


Do this before you boot Windows for the first time.



with e.g. Clonezilla.




I typically use 'dd' and/or 'gzip', as they are included in the rescue
tools on Debian installation media.



I'm part way there.  I can boot into a live Debian, but Debian doesn't 
see the SDD HD; the only (meaningful?) entry in /dev is +sda (my boot 
USB / live Debian stick), followed by -sg0.  Parted 'Print Devices' 
only lists '/dev/sda'.  dmesg does not record any other device. 
Here's what I did:


I took this advice to use dd from Debian media and used a Wheezy 
rescue 'live CD' iso - because we have one already and didn't need to 
download anything; I'd checked beforehand that the rescue image 
included dd.


Because the machine [1] only has 2 USB ports, and my USB DVD r/w unit 
uses both sockets, I needed to use an image on a USB stick.


Following the Clonezilla instructions
http://clonezilla.org/liveusb.php
to create a boootable USB looked a bit involved, compared to the 
Debian advice of 'just use DD to copy the .iso to the stick', so I put 
the Wheezy rescue image on a stick, instead of using Clonezilla.


This machine requires 'ESC' to switch into a 'start up' menu, in which 
F10 will enter BIOS setup.  First I looked at the keyboard to make 
sure where ESC, and F10 were (they're hard to see because most of the 
Fn keytops are taken with symbols).  Then I plugged in the power lead. 
waiting to pounce in case the machine started; it didn't.  After a 
minute or two to let the battery charging sequence settle down, I 
pressed PowerOn, and hit the ESC key several times, got the startup 
menu, and F10 put me in the BIOS setup.


I've prepared the BIOS on this machine to:
- not boot without a password
- use an administrator password as well (in case some BIOS features 
are hidden from basic users)

- switch off secure boot (advice from a earlier poster on this thread)
- also enable legacy boot (this machine allows both UEFI and legacy 
boot to exist, *but* it uses UEFI first, so not sure how the system 
could ever boot from a legacy device since the SDD HD will always be 
found first); somebody did say not to do this
- set the boot order in both UEFI & legacy to be USB CD, USB HD, 
inbuilt SDD, in that order


Saving these settings surprised the machine because, on restart, it 
said that secure boot was off, and did I *really* want to do that 
(yes, please) and, if so, enter a code from the screen.  Then it 
rebooted and loaded the Wheezy rescue live CD, straightaway.  With the 
rescue system you get a shell and I sudo'd into mc to look around at 
/dev, and the dmesg log, to see which device was the SDD HD so that I 
could set dd's of= parameter correctly.  That was how I realised that 
Debian hadn't seen the SDD HD, and I double checked with parted.  The 
SDD uses a gpt partition, of course, and I would have preferred to use 
gdisk to look around but gdisk isn't on that live CD.


I haven't started windows yet, and I still intend to use dd to image 
the 32GB SDD HD before I do run windows.


Any ideas why Wheezy might not be seeing the SDD?  There is - 
apparently - some problem with the recovery partition on the SDD 
likely being a format that kernels before 3.16 (?) cannot recognise. 
But I wouldn't have thought that would also mean that Debian doesn't, 
even, see the device.  (Unless, maybe, there's some kind of protocol 
between the software and the drive logic that needs to be followed, 
which the wheezy kernel doesn't have.)


Thanks to the several people who contributed thoughts to this issue, 
I'm halfway there.  I'm also trying to download the smallest Jessie 
live CD, but it'll take a while.  In the meantime, I'll look out for 
any other suggestions,


regards, Ron

[1] HP Stream 11 Notebook PC
http://h20195.www2.hp.com/v2/default.aspx?cc=ie&lc=en&oid=8245635

Re: An issue with the Debian installer

[Charlie Kravetz]

On Sat, 26 Sep 2015 11:47:35 + (UTC)
Curt  wrote:

>On 2015-09-26, Curt  wrote:
>> On 2015-09-25, Brad Rogers  wrote:
>>>
>>> On Fri, 25 Sep 2015 21:07:34 +0200
>>> Zack  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello Zack,
>>>
I do not understand why the installer do not install the desktop
environment (GNOME).
>>>
>>> Because you didn't tell it to.
>>>
>>
>> He appears to have the startx command (he's as short on specifics as he
>> is long on complaints), so normally when issuing that command at the
>> console without any GUI environments or window managers installed
>> whatsover should get him a terminal emulator in a window with a big
>> black X for a mouse cursor (if memory serves, maybe I'm all wet).
>
>Or maybe I'm thinking of xinit?
>
>Would you have startx at all if you installed no kind of GUI whatsoever.

Considering startx is designed to start the xorg server, without a
graphic desktop, there is no need for it. 

>
>The answer to these questions and more in the next installment.
>
>> He says the system reboots. That's not normal; something's going haywire
>> somewhere.
>>
>>
>
>


-- 
Charlie Kravetz
Linux Registered User Number 425914
[http://linuxcounter.net/user/425914.html]
Never let anyone steal your DREAM.   [http://keepingdreams.com]

Re: can I access SD card in cell phone?

[Erwan David]

Le 25/09/2015 21:37, Li Wei a écrit :
> Thanks!
> My phone does not have menu USB utilities
>
> When connected via USB line, phone says sth. like 
> connected as media device
>
>

In that case jmtpfs may give you the way to access the samasung mass memory

Re: Searching for MAAS equivalen

[Himanshu Shekhar]

Ok! No offence! :)
MAAS(Metal as a Service) is something which can be used to boot and control
multiple servers from a single system. A single change in one can be
deployed across all the servers on the network.
Why I occasionally ask questions about Ubuntu, is just because I am a
student who loves Debian but continuously tries to experiment all sorts of
software on his machine, and Ubuntu was how I was introduced to Linux but
switched to Debian cause it was the real OS.
That's all!

On Sat, Sep 26, 2015 at 5:21 PM, Lisi Reisz  wrote:

> On Thursday 24 September 2015 13:05:16 Himanshu Shekhar wrote:
> > Is there anything equivalent to MAAS, with which we can handle multiple
> > servers from a single system, as provided in Ubuntu Server?
> > If yes, then please provide the package name.
>
> Himanshu,
>
> Could you possibly ask questions without requiring us to look up all sorts
> of
> things to find out what oyu are talking about.  You can't reasonably expect
> all of us to install Ubuntu Server in order to find out how it can do what.
> This is the Debian list.
>
> Lisi
>
>


-- 
Himanshu Shekhar
IIIT-Allahabad
IRM2015006

Nautilus classic search in Jessie?

[/ vt]

Hi,

I switched from Debian 7 to Debian 8. The nautilus file browser is now
updated and I am particularly interested in removing one of its new
features. The new 'search as you type' feature does not make sense to me.
If I wanted to search for a file starting down from the current directory I
would expect to hit CTRL+F or just use the terminal. And while browsing
through the file system I would expect that I select files when I type on
the keyboard, not search for them recursively. This is slow and breaks user
experience. At least that's my point of view. So, do you know how I can get
the "old" search back. I tried

gsettings set org.gnome.nautilus.preferences enable-interactive-search true


but it seems that there is no such key in Debian - I read this in an Ubuntu
forum. I got used to Nautilus so I would like to continue using it. But if
there is no way to get the old search back I will switch to something
orthodox that can do it.


Thanks,

Vladimir

How to disable automatic mounting of CDROM?

[Richard Owlett]

I'm trying to troubleshoot a problem.
That Jessie (and IIRC Squeeze) automatically mount the cdrom 
drive every time the drawer is closed is a nuisance requiring to 
manually run umount before I can proceed.


/etc/fstab has noauto under options.

Where else should I look.
I would prefer to disable on a per session basis.
Total disabling is acceptable.

TIA

Re: can I access SD card in cell phone?

[Curt]

On 2015-09-25, Li Wei  wrote:

> Thanks!
> but I'm in China and linuxmanagers.blogspot.com seems blocked
>

There's AirDroid if you have wifi (you don't have to sign up for one of
their accounts, by the way) and you can download apps from the google play
store.

You open AirDroid, which you gives you the phone's ip address. On a
local lan that might look like http://192.168.0.11:.  Stick that
into your favorite browser, then browse the contents of your Samsung
(allows file transfer + management).

Works for me.  Has the merit of simplicity if all else fails.

Re: nfs stale file handle?

[Lisi Reisz]

On Saturday 26 September 2015 13:56:10 Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Saturday 26 September 2015 07:21:07 Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > On Saturday 26 September 2015 05:19:27 Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > On Friday 25 September 2015 16:52:09 Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > > > On Thursday 24 September 2015 06:56:52 Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > > On Wednesday 23 September 2015 07:53:22 Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > > > Greetings all, nfs experts in particular;
> > > >
> > > > [snip]
> > > >
> > > > > Ping?
> > > >
> > > > Gene, you might have got more replies if you hadn't asked for
> > > > "experts".  I for one can't imagine ever replying on this list to
> > > > anything requiring experts.  I know my limitations!
> > > >
> > > > None-the-less, I think that I have on occasion managed to help
> > > > some people in spite of not being an expert.
> > > >
> > > > Lisi
> > >
> > > Yes you have my dear Lady, me included, and many thanks.  But with
> > > an aged grey hairball of NFS that hasn't had any real TLC in most of
> > > a decade, I was looking for someone who had been crawling around it
> > > its plumbing for many a coons age.
> >
> > On the whole people won't reply if they have nothing to contribute.
> > And someone might have fallen over just the solution that is needed
> > without being an expert.  I would just ask for help, and leave it to
> > those who reply to decide whether they have enough expertise for the
> > purpose, without demanding experts. ;-)
> >
> > Yes, Nik is always helpful and a great lateral thinker.  But
> > *possibly* not an expert if nfs. ;-)  I rest my case
> >
> > Lisi
>
> He did give me a solution that worked, where NFS was falling face first
> into its morning oatmeal. :)

As I say, a lateral thinker.  But not an expert in nfs.  He said that he too 
failed with nfs which was why he used sshfs.

He is always great on solutions.

Lisi

Re: nfs stale file handle?

[Gene Heskett]

On Saturday 26 September 2015 07:21:07 Lisi Reisz wrote:

> On Saturday 26 September 2015 05:19:27 Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Friday 25 September 2015 16:52:09 Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > > On Thursday 24 September 2015 06:56:52 Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday 23 September 2015 07:53:22 Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > > Greetings all, nfs experts in particular;
> > >
> > > [snip]
> > >
> > > > Ping?
> > >
> > > Gene, you might have got more replies if you hadn't asked for
> > > "experts".  I for one can't imagine ever replying on this list to
> > > anything requiring experts.  I know my limitations!
> > >
> > > None-the-less, I think that I have on occasion managed to help
> > > some people in spite of not being an expert.
> > >
> > > Lisi
> >
> > Yes you have my dear Lady, me included, and many thanks.  But with
> > an aged grey hairball of NFS that hasn't had any real TLC in most of
> > a decade, I was looking for someone who had been crawling around it
> > its plumbing for many a coons age.
>
> On the whole people won't reply if they have nothing to contribute. 
> And someone might have fallen over just the solution that is needed
> without being an expert.  I would just ask for help, and leave it to
> those who reply to decide whether they have enough expertise for the
> purpose, without demanding experts. ;-)
>
> Yes, Nik is always helpful and a great lateral thinker.  But
> *possibly* not an expert if nfs. ;-)  I rest my case
>
> Lisi

He did give me a solution that worked, where NFS was falling face first 
into its morning oatmeal. :)

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page 

Re: Searching for MAAS equivalen

[Lisi Reisz]

On Thursday 24 September 2015 13:05:16 Himanshu Shekhar wrote:
> Is there anything equivalent to MAAS, with which we can handle multiple
> servers from a single system, as provided in Ubuntu Server?
> If yes, then please provide the package name.

Himanshu,

Could you possibly ask questions without requiring us to look up all sorts of 
things to find out what oyu are talking about.  You can't reasonably expect 
all of us to install Ubuntu Server in order to find out how it can do what.  
This is the Debian list.

Lisi

Re: Can't Log in

[John L. Cunningham]

I'm having a similar problem on a Jessie install.  I don't think it's the 
display manager.  When I log in via the shell, I get an error message saying 
the user has no home directory and starts with the home directory of "/".  
Since I don't have permission to read anything on the root, it makes sense that 
Gnome conks out.  I've made new users via Gnome's user manager and via 
/usr/sbin/adduser and I have the same problem.

--John

On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 06:33:42PM -0700, ray wrote:
> Thank you all for the input.
> 
> My 1.5 TB disk is not full; I only have Debian on it.
> 
> I found I can login with the shell.  As Lisi points out, this is probably a 
> display manager issue.
> 
> I logged in as root so I could use the GUI to make it easier to follow 
> suggestions and record the results.  Here is a view of findings (labled First 
> - Sixth):
> 
> First:
> 
> cat ~/.vnc/xstartup
> #!/bin/sh
> # Uncomment the following two lines for normal desktop:
> # unset SESSION_MANAGER
> # exec /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc
> 
> [ -x /etc/vnc/xstartup ] && exec /etc/vnc/xstartup
> [ -r $HOME/.Xresources ] && xrdb $HOME/.Xresources
> xsetroot -solid grey
> vncconfig -iconic &
> x-terminal-emulator -geometry 80x24+10+10 -ls -title "$VNCDESKTOP Desktop" &
> x-window-manager &
> 
> So I changed:
> 
> x-terminal-emulator -geometry 80x24+10+10 -ls -title "$VNCDESKTOP Desktop" &
> to
> x-terminal-emulator -geometry 1920x1080 -ls -title "$VNCDESKTOP Desktop" &
> 
> This is what I had originally entered.  
> So I  rebooted, attempted a user login and it failed.  
> 
> Second:
> 
> cat /etc/vncserver/vncservers.conf
> No such file or directory
> 
> Here is a  of the directory:
> gnome-vfs-mime-magic  newt  vdpau_wrapper.cfg
> GNUstep   nsswitch.confvim
> groff openalwgetrc
> cat /etc/init.d/vncserver
> No such file or directory
> 
> I expected to see these but I don't know why they are not there.  
> 
> Third:
> 
> /home/username/.xsession-errors
>  
> # cat .xsession-errors
> Xsession: X session started for merusr at Sun Sep 20 16:57:40 CDT 2015
> localuser:merusr being added to access control list
> openConnection: connect: No such file or directory
> cannot connect to brltty at :0
> ** Message: main.vala:99: Session is LXDE
> ** Message: main.vala:100: DE is LXDE
> ** Message: main.vala:131: log directory: /home/merusr/.cache/lxsession/LXDE
> ** Message: main.vala:132: log path: 
> /home/merusr/.cache/lxsession/LXDE/run.log
> 
> Fourth:
> 
> In
> /home/merusr/.cache/lxsession/LXDE
> # cat run.log
> ** Message: environement.vala:58: Exporting primary_variable
> ** Message: environement.vala:59: desktop_environnement XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP
> ** Message: environement.vala:149: confir_dirs is null, export : /etc/xdg
> ** Message: environement.vala:183: Exporting XDG_CONFIG_DIRS
> ** Message: environement.vala:217: custom_data 
> :/usr/local/share:/usr/share:/usr/share/gdm:/var/lib/menu-xdg:
> ** Message: environement.vala:218: data_dirs 
> :/usr/local/share/:/usr/share/:/usr/share/gdm/:/var/lib/menu-xdg/
> ** Message: environement.vala:219: data_dirs not null, export : 
> /usr/local/share:/usr/share:/usr/share/gdm:/var/lib/menu-xdg:/usr/local/share/:/usr/share/:/usr/share/gdm/:/var/lib/menu-xdg/
> ** Message: environement.vala:224: Exporting XDG_DATA_DIRS
> ** Message: utils.vala:68: User config used : 
> /home/merusr/.config/lxsession/LXDE/desktop.conf
> ** Message: utils.vala:89: Final file used : 
> /home/merusr/.config/lxsession/LXDE/desktop.conf
> ** Message: settings.vala:527: Key file does not have key 'iGtk/ColorScheme' 
> in group 'GTK'
> ** Message: settings.vala:527: Key file does not have key 
> 'windows_manager/extras' in group 'Session'
> ** Message: settings.vala:527: Key file does not have key 'panel/command' in 
> group 'Session'
> ** Message: settings.vala:527: Key file does not have key 'dock/command' in 
> group 'Session'
> ** Message: settings.vala:527: Key file does not have key 
> 'file_manager/command' in group 'Session'
> ** Message: settings.vala:527: Key file does not have key 
> 'desktop_manager/command' in group 'Session'
> ** Message: settings.vala:527: Key file does not have key 
> 'launcher_manager/autostart' in group 'Session'
> ** Message: settings.vala:527: Key file does not have key 
> 'composite_manager/command' in group 'Session'
> ** Message: settings.vala:527: Key file does not have key 'im1/command' in 
> group 'Session'
> ** Message: settings.vala:527: Key file does not have key 'im2/command' in 
> group 'Session'
> ** Message: settings.vala:527: Key file does not have key 'widget1/command' 
> in group 'Session'
> ** Message: settings.vala:527: Key file does not have key 
> 'notification/command' in group 'Session'
> ** Message: settings.vala:527: Key file does not have key 
> 'keybindings/command' in group 'Session'
> ** Message: settings.vala:527: Key file does not have key 
> 's

Re: An issue with the Debian installer

[Curt]

On 2015-09-26, Curt  wrote:
> On 2015-09-25, Brad Rogers  wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, 25 Sep 2015 21:07:34 +0200
>> Zack  wrote:
>>
>> Hello Zack,
>>
>>>I do not understand why the installer do not install the desktop
>>>environment (GNOME).
>>
>> Because you didn't tell it to.
>>
>
> He appears to have the startx command (he's as short on specifics as he
> is long on complaints), so normally when issuing that command at the
> console without any GUI environments or window managers installed
> whatsover should get him a terminal emulator in a window with a big
> black X for a mouse cursor (if memory serves, maybe I'm all wet).

Or maybe I'm thinking of xinit?

Would you have startx at all if you installed no kind of GUI whatsoever.

The answer to these questions and more in the next installment.

> He says the system reboots. That's not normal; something's going haywire
> somewhere.
>
>


-- 

Re: nfs stale file handle?

[Lisi Reisz]

On Saturday 26 September 2015 05:19:27 Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Friday 25 September 2015 16:52:09 Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > On Thursday 24 September 2015 06:56:52 Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > On Wednesday 23 September 2015 07:53:22 Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > Greetings all, nfs experts in particular;
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> > > Ping?
> >
> > Gene, you might have got more replies if you hadn't asked for
> > "experts".  I for one can't imagine ever replying on this list to
> > anything requiring experts.  I know my limitations!
> >
> > None-the-less, I think that I have on occasion managed to help some
> > people in spite of not being an expert.
> >
> > Lisi
>
> Yes you have my dear Lady, me included, and many thanks.  But with an
> aged grey hairball of NFS that hasn't had any real TLC in most of a
> decade, I was looking for someone who had been crawling around it its
> plumbing for many a coons age.

On the whole people won't reply if they have nothing to contribute.  And 
someone might have fallen over just the solution that is needed without being 
an expert.  I would just ask for help, and leave it to those who reply to 
decide whether they have enough expertise for the purpose, without demanding 
experts. ;-)

Yes, Nik is always helpful and a great lateral thinker.  But *possibly* not an 
expert if nfs. ;-)  I rest my case

Lisi

Re: can I access SD card in cell phone?

[Lisi Reisz]

On Friday 25 September 2015 20:48:18 Li Wei wrote:
> Thanks!
> but I'm in China and linuxmanagers.blogspot.com seems blocked
Here is the relevant text (minus any propaganda;):
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Transferring files between your Linux box and your Android device
There are a few ways to share files over wifi between your Linux machine and 
your Android device. The first method I used was to set up a web server on my 
CentOS box and then browse to it on the Android. This wasn't an ideal 
solution for a number of reasons, one being that the transfer worked in only 
one direction (from the web server to the Android) and the second being it 
was a solution too complicated for most Android users.

The second solution was much better, an app (free) at play.google.com called 
Software Data Cable. It's essentially an ftp server that runs on Android 
(version 2.1 and above— it was nice of the developers to backport it). Once 
installed, you simply start it running and then you can transfer files back 
and forth between your Android and Linux over wifi. Software Data Cable 
allows you to configure a password to access the server. Still I still don't 
leave it running all the time due to security concerns. It's simple enough 
just to fire it up when needed.

On the Linux side, open up two nautilus windows, one being Panel -> Places -> 
Network Places -> your Android's IP address, the other being your Home 
directory or Desktop or whatever. Then you can transfer files back and forth 
just by dragging and dropping them from one window into the other— in either 
direction. I've also found Software Data Cable to be the easiest way to 
rename files on Android: Right-click on the filename, select Rename, and type 
in the new name. If, in this process, Android gets confused about the 
contents of a local directory, on Android exit that directory to its parent, 
then go back into it. This seems to force a reread of the directory contents, 
bringing the cosmos back to sanity.

It would be nice to be able to use Software Data Cable to set up a file server 
for a group of people. In a sense, it already does this except, with no 
limits on who could download what, people can access files and/or directories 
everywhere, including your confidential information. A proper ftp server 
would institute limits on which users could access which files and 
directories. Perhaps we'll see this further development in future.
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HTH - and hope it gets through - 
Lisi




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> 
> On Fri, 9/25/15, ken  wrote:
>
>  Subject: Re: can I access SD card in cell phone?
>  To: "Li Wei" , debian-user@lists.debian.org
>  Date: Friday, September 25, 2015, 1:28 PM
>
>
>  A couple years ago I wrote up
>  an easy-to-read, easy way to do this with
>  no cables necessary:
>
>  http://linuxmanagers.blogspot.com/

Re: can I access SD card in cell phone?

[Brad Rogers]

On Fri, 25 Sep 2015 14:47:31 -0700
Li Wei  wrote:

Hello Li,

>Bus 001 Device 004: ID 04e8:6860 Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd GT-I9100
>Phone [Galaxy S II], GT-P7500 [Galaxy Tab 10.1]

So, it detects the 'phone.  That good.  Of you're lucky, it'll be
possible to mount it.  However, taking note of what others have written,
you may have to do some reading first.

We're rapidly approaching the limits of my understanding of this area.
When I had problems with my (previous) 'phone, I ended up buying a cheap
USB BlueTooth dongle, and using that to get a connection.  If the worst
comes to the worst, perhaps that's an option you could explore.

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Re: An issue with the Debian installer

[Curt]

On 2015-09-25, Brad Rogers  wrote:
>
> On Fri, 25 Sep 2015 21:07:34 +0200
> Zack  wrote:
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> Hello Zack,
>
>>I do not understand why the installer do not install the desktop=20
>>environment (GNOME).
>
> Because you didn't tell it to.
>

He appears to have the startx command (he's as short on specifics as he
is long on complaints), so normally when issuing that command at the
console without any GUI environments or window managers installed
whatsover should get him a terminal emulator in a window with a big
black X for a mouse cursor (if memory serves, maybe I'm all wet).

He says the system reboots. That's not normal; something's going haywire
somewhere.