Re: Confirmacions comandes "amagades"

[Alex Muntada]

Joan Cervan:

> Ei, doncs podria ser això... a la màquina a on em surt el missatge com
> el que poses a la línia superior, tinc una debian 7, i en canvi la que
> no em diu ni mu te una debian 8...

Compara el valor de $PS1 a les dues màquines. Segur que la 7 té
alguna referència a $? per alguna banda.

Salut,
Alex

Re: Permisos para crear fichero PID

[Camaleón]

El Mon, 09 Nov 2015 17:26:04 +0100, Josu Lazkano escribió:

> Hola a todos,
> 
> Estoy configurando el servico de transmission-daemon para poder
> compartir contenido en internet. Estoy viendo en los logs que el
> servicio no puede crear el fichero PID en /var/run/
> 
> Nov  9 14:47:28 servidor transmission-daemon[3663]: [2015-11-09
> 14:47:28.087 CET] Unable to save pidfile
> "/var/run/transmission-daemon.pid": Permission denied (daemon.c:573)
> 
> El usuario con que se ejecuta el servicio es "debian-transmission":
> 
> # id debian-transmission uid=108(debian-transmission)
> gid=114(debian-transmission) groups=114(debian-transmission)
> 
> Originalmente el PID se gaurdaba en
> "/var/run/transmission/transmission-daemon.pid", he cambiado la ruta,
> no se si importa.
> 
> ¿Como puedo hacer para que se pueda crear ese fichero?

Hum... ¿dices que lo has cambiado de motu propio? ¿Por qué motivo? 

Vuelve a dejarlo como estaba y si funciona seguramente sea porque el 
directorio donde se guardaba el PID del servicio tenía los permisos 
adecuados para que el usuario "debian-transmission" tuviera acceso de 
escritura en él.

Por otra parte no dices si usas sysvinit o systemd y eso puede marcar una 
diferencia.

Saludos,

-- 
Camaleón

Re: Debian 8.1 ext4 directory sizes

[Thomas Schmitt]

Hi,

Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:
> Yes, and also of its predecessors ext2 and ext3.

Thanks for the info.

As i failed to find it myself: Do you know a link or man page
where this is specified ?

After all it imposes massive performance penalties which made
me suspicious on the first hand. Does nobody else complain ?

What do the big guys use instead ?
(I used Reiser FS for the last years. My older ext2 instances
 never had to stand that workload.)


> There's the -D option for fsck that optimizes directories, this should make
> them return to the smallest size, but the filesystem must be unmounted.

Thanks again.
It would last a while to find all pwd pointing into it,
but elsewise it is a mere data partition and could be
umounted without reboot.


Have a nice day :)

Thomas

Re: Debian-Live se va... Debian CD se queda

[Camaleón]

El Tue, 10 Nov 2015 16:27:43 +0100, Javier Barroso escribió:

>> Acabo de leer este mensaje sobre el cierre del proyecto Debian Live en
>> la lista de desarrolladores:
>>
>> An abrupt End to Debian Live
>> https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2015/11/msg00110.html

(...)

>> Sinceramente, creo que las cosas se pueden hacer mejor: muy mal Debian
>> :-(
> 
> Espero que se arregle, parece que han rectificado y han admitido el
> cambio de nombre, probablemente demasiado tarde para el bien de Debian:
> 
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-live/2015/11/msg00053.html
> 
> Aunque sinceramente, siempre que alguién dice que lo deja, casi nunca
> vuelve :(. Realmente una pena

Este tipo de actuaciones hay que cortarlas de raíz y no esperar a que 
quien te da una puñalada después reconozca el "error" y te pida perdón, 
no resulta creíble (los ataques directos al proyecto Debian Live en los 
bugs son cuanto menos hirientes). 

Echo en falta una voz que esté por encima de desarrolladores/mantenedores/
empaquetadores, velando por los intereses generales de Debian y no por 
los particulares de cada uno pero sobre todo que sepa reconocer los 
méritos y el esfuerzo individual de quien ha dedicado tiempo en hacer 
mejor y más accesible Debian.

Saludos,

-- 
Camaleón

Debian 8.1 ext4 directory sizes

[Thomas Schmitt]

Hi,

i am riddling about the size of directories in Jessie's ext4,
as listed with ls -ld. They always grow and never shrink, even
if they become completely empty. My record holder had 7.5 MB,
currently i am having an empy one of 1.5 MB.

Command mount reports
  /dev/sd... on /... type ext4 (rw,relatime,data=ordered)

Processing times of programs which interpret the directory
content are very long, as if the directories would contain
tenthousands of files (which they probably once did).
My extreme specimen all have the job to buffer large numbers
of files until they get processed and deleted.


Is this a known property of ext4 directories ?

If so: Are there other means to shrink them except rmdir ?

I read about a hash tree in
  https://ext4.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Ext4_Disk_Layout#Directory_Entries
but this text does not say that such a tree cannot shrink.
Does anybody know how to inquire inode properties like
EXT4_INDEX_FL ?


Have a nice day :)

Thomas

Re: Debian-Live se va... Debian CD se queda

[Javier Barroso]

Hola,

2015-11-10 16:21 GMT+01:00 Camaleón :
> Hola,
>
> Acabo de leer este mensaje sobre el cierre del proyecto Debian Live en la
> lista de desarrolladores:
>
> An abrupt End to Debian Live
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2015/11/msg00110.html
>
> En resumen: el "origen" del conflicto parece ser una solicitud de cambio
> de nombre de los paquetes para que no haya colisiones entre distintos
> proyectos pero la cosa deriva en acusaciones feas y una falta de tacto
> inquietante por parte de los encargados de los proyectos en cuita (debian-
> cd). El encargado del proyecto Debian Live se harta (normal) y cierra.
>
> Sinceramente, creo que las cosas se pueden hacer mejor: muy mal Debian :-(

Espero que se arregle, parece que han rectificado y han admitido el
cambio de nombre, probablemente demasiado tarde para el bien de
Debian:

https://lists.debian.org/debian-live/2015/11/msg00053.html

Aunque sinceramente, siempre que alguién dice que lo deja, casi nunca
vuelve :(. Realmente una pena

Saludos

Re: [OT] Sobre manejo de releases de dos Proyectos separados con GIT

[Camaleón]

El Mon, 09 Nov 2015 11:07:13 -0300, David Helmut Reese Molinas escribió:

> Buen Dia
> 
> Sé que el tema es bastante OT, pero tomando en cuenta que la mayoria de
> los que están en esta lista tienen experiencia en desarrollo con
> proyectos grandes me parece que podriamos compartir algunas experiencias
> de manera a poder solucionar un dilema que estoy teniendo.
> No es precisamente un problema, sino más bien un tema de organización.
> Me interesa saber cómo lo hacen (o lo harían si aún no tuvieron la
> experiencia) en un panorama como el siguiente.

(...)

> Actualmente estamos manejando el esquema recomendado por GIT para los
> branches (las explicaciones están resumidas, pero espero que se
> entiendan):

(...)

Ah, Git... ese gran desconocido:

http://xkcd.com/1597/

A ver si alguien que lo use te puede echar una mano con los esquemas que 
tienes en mente o te da alguna idea mejor. Yo sólo te puedo decir que 
cuando alguien me dice: "puedes descargar los paquetes desde git en esta 
dirección..." me pongo a temblar porque no tengo ni idea de qué, dónde ni 
cómo descargar nada de esas páginas (:-P

Saludos,

-- 
Camaleón

Re: fslint ui

[Camaleón]

El Tue, 10 Nov 2015 09:16:17 +, franiortiz hotmail escribió:

(...)

>>¿Has probado a ejecutarlo desde una consola?
> Si y findup funciona correctamente, pero echo de menos la ui

(...)

Me refería a ejecutar desde una consola la interfaz gráfica, por si te 
saltara algún mensaje o error :-)

Saludos,

-- 
Camaleón

Debian-Live se va... Debian CD se queda

[Camaleón]

Hola,

Acabo de leer este mensaje sobre el cierre del proyecto Debian Live en la 
lista de desarrolladores:

An abrupt End to Debian Live
https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2015/11/msg00110.html

En resumen: el "origen" del conflicto parece ser una solicitud de cambio 
de nombre de los paquetes para que no haya colisiones entre distintos 
proyectos pero la cosa deriva en acusaciones feas y una falta de tacto 
inquietante por parte de los encargados de los proyectos en cuita (debian-
cd). El encargado del proyecto Debian Live se harta (normal) y cierra. 

Sinceramente, creo que las cosas se pueden hacer mejor: muy mal Debian :-(

Saludos,

-- 
Camaleón

Re: Debian-Live se va... Debian CD se queda

[Javier Barroso]

Buenas de nuevo,

2015-11-10 16:54 GMT+01:00 Camaleón :
> El Tue, 10 Nov 2015 16:27:43 +0100, Javier Barroso escribió:
>
>>> Acabo de leer este mensaje sobre el cierre del proyecto Debian Live en
>>> la lista de desarrolladores:
>>>
>>> An abrupt End to Debian Live
>>> https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2015/11/msg00110.html
>
> (...)
>
>>> Sinceramente, creo que las cosas se pueden hacer mejor: muy mal Debian
>>> :-(
>>
>> Espero que se arregle, parece que han rectificado y han admitido el
>> cambio de nombre, probablemente demasiado tarde para el bien de Debian:
>>
>> https://lists.debian.org/debian-live/2015/11/msg00053.html
>>
>> Aunque sinceramente, siempre que alguién dice que lo deja, casi nunca
>> vuelve :(. Realmente una pena
>
> Este tipo de actuaciones hay que cortarlas de raíz y no esperar a que
> quien te da una puñalada después reconozca el "error" y te pida perdón,
> no resulta creíble (los ataques directos al proyecto Debian Live en los
> bugs son cuanto menos hirientes).
>
> Echo en falta una voz que esté por encima de desarrolladores/mantenedores/
> empaquetadores, velando por los intereses generales de Debian y no por
> los particulares de cada uno pero sobre todo que sepa reconocer los
> méritos y el esfuerzo individual de quien ha dedicado tiempo en hacer
> mejor y más accesible Debian.

También le han pedido al lider de Debian que tome cartas en el asunto:

https://lists.debian.org/debian-live/2015/11/msg00050.html

A ver como acaba este tema. Estar en Debian y no querer colaborar,
tiene cosa el asunto

Saludos!

Re: Debian-Live se va... Debian CD se queda

[Altair Linux]

Hola,

desde mi desconocimiento sobre el tema: parece que el salvajismo en los
proyectos relacionados con los desarrollos en Linux es bastante comun (que
conste que no estoy respaldandolo) y segun parece ese nivel de hostilidades
produce un nivel de calidad mas elevado (segun ellos, repito).

Recuerdo que no hace mucho se produjeron dos dimisiones de peso en uno de
los desarrollos, una se produjo por ser persona directamente relacionada
que dijo (entre otras cosas) no soportar la situacion y el ambiente; la
segunda dimision parece que fue por solidaridad y apoyo a la primera
persona.

En serio, parece que el ambiente es "zona de guerra" y los ataques
personales (cuanto mas salvaje, mejor) estan a la orden del dia. Una leve
muestra parecen ser algunos videos de Torvalds diciendo lo que piensa, a su
estilo, y lei hace tiempo en algun articulo que ningun relaciones publicas
queria trabajar con Torwalds precisamente por su comportamiento.

Y todo esto, repito, dicen que es porque la calidad del codigo es lo
primero.

Sorprendente.










El 10 de noviembre de 2015, 16:54, Camaleón  escribió:

> El Tue, 10 Nov 2015 16:27:43 +0100, Javier Barroso escribió:
>
> >> Acabo de leer este mensaje sobre el cierre del proyecto Debian Live en
> >> la lista de desarrolladores:
> >>
> >> An abrupt End to Debian Live
> >> https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2015/11/msg00110.html
>
> (...)
>
> >> Sinceramente, creo que las cosas se pueden hacer mejor: muy mal Debian
> >> :-(
> >
> > Espero que se arregle, parece que han rectificado y han admitido el
> > cambio de nombre, probablemente demasiado tarde para el bien de Debian:
> >
> > https://lists.debian.org/debian-live/2015/11/msg00053.html
> >
> > Aunque sinceramente, siempre que alguién dice que lo deja, casi nunca
> > vuelve :(. Realmente una pena
>
> Este tipo de actuaciones hay que cortarlas de raíz y no esperar a que
> quien te da una puñalada después reconozca el "error" y te pida perdón,
> no resulta creíble (los ataques directos al proyecto Debian Live en los
> bugs son cuanto menos hirientes).
>
> Echo en falta una voz que esté por encima de desarrolladores/mantenedores/
> empaquetadores, velando por los intereses generales de Debian y no por
> los particulares de cada uno pero sobre todo que sepa reconocer los
> méritos y el esfuerzo individual de quien ha dedicado tiempo en hacer
> mejor y más accesible Debian.
>
> Saludos,
>
> --
> Camaleón
>
>

Re: Debian 8.1 ext4 directory sizes

[Eduardo M KALINOWSKI]

On Ter, 10 Nov 2015, Thomas Schmitt wrote:

i am riddling about the size of directories in Jessie's ext4,
as listed with ls -ld. They always grow and never shrink, even
if they become completely empty.

Is this a known property of ext4 directories ?


Yes, and also of its predecessors ext2 and ext3.


If so: Are there other means to shrink them except rmdir ?


There's the -D option for fsck that optimizes directories, this should  
make them return to the smallest size, but the filesystem must be  
unmounted.

--
Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
edua...@kalinowski.com.br

Re: Installation

[Richard Owlett]

On 11/10/2015 6:56 AM, Christophe M wrote:

Bonjour

Je voudrais savoir qu'elle version de Debian je peux installer
sur un Asus Z53J, car après plusieurs essais la vidéo est
correcte au départ mais quand l'installation et fini je ne vois
que des traits sur l'écran. Je pense que c'est un pb du driver
pour ma vidéo.

Dans l'attente  cordialement



If you are more comfortable in French, you may wish to consider
https://lists.debian.org/debian-user-french/ .

Re: Debian-Live se va... Debian CD se queda

[Javier Barroso]

Buenas,

2015-11-10 17:07 GMT+01:00 Altair Linux :
>
> Hola,
>
> desde mi desconocimiento sobre el tema: parece que el salvajismo en los
> proyectos relacionados con los desarrollos en Linux es bastante comun (que
> conste que no estoy respaldandolo) y segun parece ese nivel de hostilidades
> produce un nivel de calidad mas elevado (segun ellos, repito).
>
> Recuerdo que no hace mucho se produjeron dos dimisiones de peso en uno de
> los desarrollos, una se produjo por ser persona directamente relacionada que
> dijo (entre otras cosas) no soportar la situacion y el ambiente; la segunda
> dimision parece que fue por solidaridad y apoyo a la primera persona.
>
> En serio, parece que el ambiente es "zona de guerra" y los ataques
> personales (cuanto mas salvaje, mejor) estan a la orden del dia. Una leve
> muestra parecen ser algunos videos de Torvalds diciendo lo que piensa, a su
> estilo, y lei hace tiempo en algun articulo que ningun relaciones publicas
> queria trabajar con Torwalds precisamente por su comportamiento.

El último hilo que leí de Linus fue bastante fuerte:

https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/10/28/215

No sé si es bueno que se hable así, pero en este caso de momento el
tema sigue para adelante

Saludos

Re: Debian 8.1 ext4 directory sizes

[Dan Ritter]

On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 04:36:56PM +0100, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:
> > Yes, and also of its predecessors ext2 and ext3.
> 
> Thanks for the info.
> 
> As i failed to find it myself: Do you know a link or man page
> where this is specified ?
> 
> After all it imposes massive performance penalties which made
> me suspicious on the first hand. Does nobody else complain ?

You have several options:

1. Enable the following features on your ext4 fs:

- dir_index
- extent

these are probably both on by default.

2. When you make gigantic directories and later empty them,
   delete them. Re-create them when you need them.

3. Use btrfs or ZFS (these both have advantages and
   disadvantages and are not to be entered into lightly.

The size of the directory inode structures is not excessive; you
really need that to handle lots of files, and it dynamically
grows. The fact that it does not dynamically shrink is,
generally, a feature.

-dsr-

Re: Debian-Live se va... Debian CD se queda

[Camaleón]

El Tue, 10 Nov 2015 17:38:11 +0100, Javier Barroso escribió:

> 2015-11-10 17:07 GMT+01:00 Altair Linux :

(...)

>> En serio, parece que el ambiente es "zona de guerra" y los ataques
>> personales (cuanto mas salvaje, mejor) estan a la orden del dia. Una
>> leve muestra parecen ser algunos videos de Torvalds diciendo lo que
>> piensa, a su estilo, y lei hace tiempo en algun articulo que ningun
>> relaciones publicas queria trabajar con Torwalds precisamente por su
>> comportamiento.
> 
> El último hilo que leí de Linus fue bastante fuerte:
> 
> https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/10/28/215
> 
> No sé si es bueno que se hable así, pero en este caso de momento el tema
> sigue para adelante

Bueno, más allá de la palabrería que usa al menos explica técnicamente 
por qué es mejor una opción que otra, o simplemente por qué él quiere una 
opción antes que otra, que también se trata de preferencias personales.

Y eso se puede rebatir.

Pero que alguien te diga, "no voy a seguir con este tema y marco este bug 
como cerrado" es una cosa muy distinta. Sin argumentos, sin debate, sin 
opciones... si te pilla en un momento de debilidad o bajo de defensas 
sólo puedes batirte en retirada.

Saludos,

-- 
Camaleón

Re: Installation

[Bernard Schoenacker]

Le Tue, 10 Nov 2015 14:45:20 +0100,
Christophe M  a écrit :

> Bonjour
> 
> Je voudrais savoir qu'elle version de Debian je peux installer sur un
> Asus Z53J, car après plusieurs essais la vidéo est correcte au départ
> mais quand l'installation et fini je ne vois que des traits sur
> l'écran. Je pense que c'est un pb du driver pour ma vidéo.
> 
> Dans l'attente  cordialement


bonjour,


serait il possible de télécharger ceci :

http://ftp.monash.edu.au/pub/linux/knoppix/knoppix/ADRIANE-KNOPPIX_V7.2.0gCD-2013-07-28-EN.iso

comme c'est un live cd tout doit couler de source ...

attention il faut taper: knoppix lqng=fr ( knoppix lang=fr )

ouvrir un terminal et taper ( copier et coller ) :

lspci |grep VGA 

xrandr

cat /proc/cpuinfo |grep model

et rendre compte sur la liste

slt
bernard

Re: Installation

[colonius]

Selon Bernard Schoenacker :

> Le Tue, 10 Nov 2015 14:45:20 +0100,
> Christophe M  a écrit :
>
> > Bonjour
> >
> > Je voudrais savoir qu'elle version de Debian je peux installer sur un
> > Asus Z53J, car aprÚs plusieurs essais la vidéo est correcte au départ
> > mais quand l'installation et fini je ne vois que des traits sur
> > l'écran. Je pense que c'est un pb du driver pour ma vidéo.
> >
> > Dans l'attente  cordialement
>
>
> bonjour,
>
>
> serait il possible de télécharger ceci :
>
>
http://ftp.monash.edu.au/pub/linux/knoppix/knoppix/ADRIANE-KNOPPIX_V7.2.0gCD-2013-07-28-EN.iso
>
> comme c'est un live cd tout doit couler de source ...
>
> attention il faut taper: knoppix lqng=fr ( knoppix lang=fr )
>
> ouvrir un terminal et taper ( copier et coller ) :
>
> lspci |grep VGA
>
> xrandr
>
> cat /proc/cpuinfo |grep model
>
> et rendre compte sur la liste
>
> slt
> bernard
>
>
La dernière version de Knoppix - 7.4.2 - se trouve à http://www.knoppix.org.

Klaus

Re: Installation

[Bernard Schoenacker]

Le Tue, 10 Nov 2015 16:26:22 +0100,
colon...@free.fr a écrit :

> Selon Bernard Schoenacker :
> 
> > Le Tue, 10 Nov 2015 14:45:20 +0100,
> > Christophe M  a écrit :
> >  
> > > Bonjour
> > >
> > > Je voudrais savoir qu'elle version de Debian je peux installer
> > > sur un Asus Z53J, car aprÚs plusieurs essais la vidéo est
> > > correcte au départ mais quand l'installation et fini je ne vois
> > > que des traits sur l'écran. Je pense que c'est un pb du driver
> > > pour ma vidéo.
> > >
> > > Dans l'attente  cordialement  
> >
> >
> > bonjour,
> >
> >
> > serait il possible de télécharger ceci :
> >
> >  
> http://ftp.monash.edu.au/pub/linux/knoppix/knoppix/ADRIANE-KNOPPIX_V7.2.0gCD-2013-07-28-EN.iso
> >
> > comme c'est un live cd tout doit couler de source ...
> >
> > attention il faut taper: knoppix lqng=fr ( knoppix lang=fr )
> >
> > ouvrir un terminal et taper ( copier et coller ) :
> >
> > lspci |grep VGA
> >
> > xrandr
> >
> > cat /proc/cpuinfo |grep model
> >
> > et rendre compte sur la liste
> >
> > slt
> > bernard
> >
> >  
> La dernière version de Knoppix - 7.4.2 - se trouve à
> http://www.knoppix.org.
> 
> Klaus
> 

bonjour,

c'est volontaire que de donner "adriane" knoppix  et pas la 7.4.2 

si je donne le lien pour (7.4.2) pointer vers le dvd, je ne suis pas sûr
que le lecteur accepte de graver également un dvd, tandis que pour la
version cdrom il n'y a aucun soucis ...

le lien pour l'image dvd ( 4Go ) :

http://ftp.vim.org/knoppix/DVD/KNOPPIX_V7.4.2DVD-2014-09-28-EN.iso

slt
bernard

Re: Re: umask for GUI applications?

[tomas]

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[...]

> There's an ancient bug about gdm overriding umask:
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=683815

Oh, noes. Now the question is -- is Xsession reloaded after gdm?
If yes, that could still work.

Everytime glad I kicked DEs out long time ago.

Regards
- -- tomás
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Re: Debian 8.1 ext4 directory sizes

[Thomas Schmitt]

Hi,

to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
>  tune2fs -l 

"You can tune a filesystem, but you cannot tune a fish."

It says:

  tune2fs 1.42.12 (29-Aug-2014)
  ...
  Filesystem features:  has_journal ext_attr resize_inode dir_index 
filetype needs_recovery extent flex_bg sparse_super large_file huge_file 
uninit_bg dir_nlink extra_isize
  Filesystem flags: signed_directory_hash 
  Default mount options:user_xattr acl
  ...


Steve McIntyre wrote:
> tack:~$ sudo tune2fs -l /dev/dm-1 | grep features

/dev/dm-1 ? Google ... man dmsetup ... gulp.


Ok. I have features "dir_index" and "extent".
But the directories don't shrink when being emptied.
So proposed option 1 by Dan Ritter does not work for me.

I still wonder for what a 3.8 GHz Xeon needs 2 seconds
when scanning 7.5 MB of invalid directory entries in RAM.


Have a nice day :)

Thomas

Re: Debian 8.1 ext4 directory sizes

[tomas]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 06:49:08PM +0100, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Dan Ritter wrote:
> > 1. Enable the following features on your ext4 fs:
> > - dir_index
> > - extent
> 
> That would have to happen at mkfs time ?
> 
> 
> > these are probably both on by default.
> 
> My /etc/mke2fs.conf begins by
> 
>   [defaults]
> base_features = sparse_super,filetype,resize_inode,dir_index,ext_attr
> 
> and later has
> 
> ext4 = {
> features = 
> has_journal,extent,huge_file,flex_bg,uninit_bg,dir_nlink,extra_isize
> 
> How can i inquire whether these features are in effect ?
> The memory of my hardware provider, who created the filesystems,
> will probably not be of any help after 5 months.

I think it is:

  tune2fs -l 

regards
- -- tomás
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Re: Re: umask for GUI applications?

[Sven Arvidsson]

On Tue, 2015-11-10 at 20:06 +0200, Tapio Lehtonen wrote:
> > I'd expect this to be the job ow whatever session manager you are
> > afflicted with. For example, if you're "on" Gnome, I'd look into
> > .gnomerc; I don't know whether Freedesktop has come up with a
> > common
> > theme for that.
> 
> There seems to be no .gnomerc file anywhere.
> 
> Display Manager is gdm3. Window manager (or is it session manager?)
> is
> Gnome.

There's an ancient bug about gdm overriding umask:
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=683815

-- 
Cheers,
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Re: Install MSWindz 7 as Virtual Machine on Debian 8

[Patrick Bartek]

On Tue, 10 Nov 2015, Alan Chandler wrote:

> On 10/11/15 01:47, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> > On Mon, 09 Nov 2015, Alan Chandler wrote:
> >
> >> On 09/11/15 18:58, D Dimov wrote:
> >>> I need to install MS Windows 7 as a Virtual Machine on a computer
> >>> that is running Debian 8. To do that, I'd like to use software
> >>> that is not proprietory (I know, I know - this may sounds a bit
> >>> ridiculous...). This Debian page:
> >>> https://wiki.debian.org/SystemVirtualization recommends Qemu, KVM,
> >>> VirtualBox, and Zen. Does anyone have recommendations for which
> >>> one is easiest to install for a novice? I tried the first one,
> >>> Qemu, but didn't really find a good guide how to install MS Win 7
> >>> with it. Thanks!
> >> Up until last April, I ran Windows 7 under virtual Box on my Debian
> >> machine for my daily work almost every day for about 2 years.  I
> >> have cut down now to one day a week, and generally do that on a
> >> Macbook Air, also running Virtual Box.  It worked perfectly.
> >>
> >> I updated to Windows 10, through the upgrade program, and that was
> >> a little dodgy until I updated Virtual Box to version 5 and
> >> removed 3d Video acceleration.
> >>
> >> The only issue to be careful of, is that the drivers get properly
> >> rebuilt when the linux kernel changes.
> >>
> > Installing dkms (Dynamic Kernel Modules Support) and the appropriate
> > kernel headers will take care of that auto-magically.  Never had it
> > fail.  Of course, you  need the gcc compiler and its related files,
> > too.
> >
> > Also, I'd suggest the OP download VirtualBox directly from their web
> > site, and NOT from the Debian Repo.  When you do the former, the
> > VirtualBox repo automatically is set up and configured.
> >
> > B
> >
> >
> 
> I have switched back and forth between the virtual box debian
> repository and the normal repository at various times.  Currently
> using the normal Debian repository (testing), but a few months ago I
> was running Debian stable and trying to get Windows 10 to work and
> had to switch to a more recent release - so then used the virtual box
> one.
> 
> [snip]

I use the VirtualBox repo now simply because it's more up-to-date than
the Debian one.

Originally, the Debian repo versions of VB lacked certain features like
USB support which were consider proprietary code. And so I downloaded
VB directly from their site.  But that's been sorted out now.  I think
VB put all the proprietary stuff on the Extras disk.

B

Re: Debian 8.1 ext4 directory sizes

[Thomas Schmitt]

Hi,

Dan Ritter wrote:
> 1. Enable the following features on your ext4 fs:
> - dir_index
> - extent

That would have to happen at mkfs time ?


> these are probably both on by default.

My /etc/mke2fs.conf begins by

  [defaults]
base_features = sparse_super,filetype,resize_inode,dir_index,ext_attr

and later has

ext4 = {
features = 
has_journal,extent,huge_file,flex_bg,uninit_bg,dir_nlink,extra_isize

How can i inquire whether these features are in effect ?
The memory of my hardware provider, who created the filesystems,
will probably not be of any help after 5 months.


(Somehow my /var/log files are only a few weeks old.
 Where would i set a longer retention time ?)


> 3. Use btrfs or ZFS

I have the latter with Solaris and heartfully hate it.
Not that it would eat data, but its administration is a pain
for the elderly self-admin.


Well, one has to accomodate to modern regressions.
After concurrent SG_IO slowdown and failure of media recognition
with automatic CD tray loading, this is the third blooper.
(None of them is yet proven to be caused by systemd, to my
 big surprise. :))


Have a nice day :)

Thomas

Re: Re: umask for GUI applications?

[tomas]

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On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 08:06:16PM +0200, Tapio Lehtonen wrote:
> > I'd expect this to be the job ow whatever session manager you are
> > afflicted with. For example, if you're "on" Gnome, I'd look into
> > .gnomerc; I don't know whether Freedesktop has come up with a common
> > theme for that.
> 
> There seems to be no .gnomerc file anywhere.
> 
> Display Manager is gdm3. Window manager (or is it session manager?) is
> Gnome.
> 
> 
> > 
> > For desktopless users (like me, Fvwm), the "classic" X session mechanism
> > applies, rooted in /etc/X11/Xsession.
> > 
> > Regards
> > - -- tomás
> 
> /etc/X11/Xsession would affect all users. Unless there is some stuff
> there that executes a script from users home directory.

It's the root. I usually follow the breadcrumbs from there: typically
it sources things from the user directories. That's the mechanism to
allow per-user configuration. As an example, I want a per-user Xmodmap:
in /etc/X11/Xsession.d/80x11xmodmap (which didn't exist) I have:

  # 2015-01-10 tomas: why did they steal my xmodmap?
  # Snarfed from 
  
  # This file is sourced by Xsession(5), not executed.
  
  SYSMODMAP="/etc/X11/Xmodmap"
  USRMODMAP="$HOME/.Xmodmap"
  
  if [ -x /usr/bin/X11/xmodmap ]; then
  if [ -f "$SYSMODMAP" ]; then
  xmodmap "$SYSMODMAP"
  fi
  
  if [ -f "$USRMODMAP" ]; then
  xmodmap "$USRMODMAP"
  fi
  fi

...the rest is in $HOME/.Xmodmap.

Debian ships those things partially disabled (as was the case with
Xmodmap), so I enable them in /etc first and put the relevant per-user
configuration bits in the user's home, of course.

This should work independently of the desktop, AFAIK. But I can't tell
from first-hand experience.

> I am still looking for a documented or supported way to make GUI
> applications use the umask I want.
> 
> I have tested Libreoffice. When started from terminal window it honors
> the umask that is shown with umask -S in there. But started from the GUI
> menu it uses some other umask.

Yes, this is to be expected, since in the former case it inherits the
settings of the shell and in the latter case it inherits whatever the
X session/the desktop environment has.

Regards
- -- tomás
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Re: Re: umask for GUI applications?

[Tapio Lehtonen]

> I'd expect this to be the job ow whatever session manager you are
> afflicted with. For example, if you're "on" Gnome, I'd look into
> .gnomerc; I don't know whether Freedesktop has come up with a common
> theme for that.

There seems to be no .gnomerc file anywhere.

Display Manager is gdm3. Window manager (or is it session manager?) is
Gnome.


> 
> For desktopless users (like me, Fvwm), the "classic" X session mechanism
> applies, rooted in /etc/X11/Xsession.
> 
> Regards
> - -- tomás

/etc/X11/Xsession would affect all users. Unless there is some stuff
there that executes a script from users home directory.

I am still looking for a documented or supported way to make GUI
applications use the umask I want.

I have tested Libreoffice. When started from terminal window it honors
the umask that is shown with umask -S in there. But started from the GUI
menu it uses some other umask.


Tapio Lehtonen

Re: Debian 8.1 ext4 directory sizes

[Steve McIntyre]

Thomas wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Dan Ritter wrote:
>> 1. Enable the following features on your ext4 fs:
>> - dir_index
>> - extent
>
>That would have to happen at mkfs time ?
>
>
>> these are probably both on by default.
>
>My /etc/mke2fs.conf begins by
>
>  [defaults]
>base_features = sparse_super,filetype,resize_inode,dir_index,ext_attr
>
>and later has
>
>ext4 = {
>features = 
> has_journal,extent,huge_file,flex_bg,uninit_bg,dir_nlink,extra_isize
>
>How can i inquire whether these features are in effect ?
>The memory of my hardware provider, who created the filesystems,
>will probably not be of any help after 5 months.

tack:~$ sudo tune2fs -l /dev/dm-1 | grep features
Filesystem features:  has_journal ext_attr resize_inode dir_index filetype 
needs_recovery extent flex_bg sparse_super large_file huge_file uninit_bg 
dir_nlink extra_isize

tune2fs has lots of extra information available...

-- 
Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.st...@einval.com
"Further comment on how I feel about IBM will appear once I've worked out
 whether they're being malicious or incompetent. Capital letters are forecast."
 Matthew Garrett, http://www.livejournal.com/users/mjg59/30675.html

Re: i3 Window manager without any other desktop environment

[Dwijesh Gajadur]

Yes it worked. After installing Xorg and typing 'startx' , i3 session
started.

That Great !  

Thank you very much all for your quick replies.


With kind regards,

Dwijesh


On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 12:35 AM, Dwijesh Gajadur 
wrote:

> On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 12:23 AM, Martin Read  wrote:
>>
>>
>> Install the 'xorg' package.
>>
>
>
> Yes it worked. After installing Xorg and typing 'startx' , i3 session
> started.
>
> That Great ! 
>
> Thank you very much all for your quick replies.
>
>
> With kind regards,
>
> Dwijesh
>
>
>

Re: Debian 8.1 ext4 directory sizes

[tomas]

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[...]
> Slaves ! Bring me my tear bottle !
 ;-)

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Re: i3 Window manager without any other desktop environment

[Dwijesh Gajadur]

When I type 'startx' it says 'command not found'

On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 12:08 AM, Brian  wrote:

> On Tue 10 Nov 2015 at 23:57:04 +0400, Dwijesh Gajadur wrote:
>
> > I have installed Debian wheezy 7.9 on my PC. I have not installed any
> > desktop environment during the installation.
> >
> > After installing debian, I have installed the i3 window manager from the
> > console. However after restarting the system, i don't get i3. I get the
> > console.
> >
> > What should I do to start i3 when the system starts?
> >
> > I want to use only i3 and not any other desktop environment.
>
> After the system boots you will get a terminal. Log in and type 'startx'.
>
> What happens?
>
>

i3 Window manager without any other desktop environment

[Dwijesh Gajadur]

Hello guys.

I have installed Debian wheezy 7.9 on my PC. I have not installed any
desktop environment during the installation.

After installing debian, I have installed the i3 window manager from the
console. However after restarting the system, i don't get i3. I get the
console.

What should I do to start i3 when the system starts?

I want to use only i3 and not any other desktop environment.

Please help.


With kind regards,

Dwijesh

Re: i3 Window manager without any other desktop environment

[Dwijesh Gajadur]

On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 12:23 AM, Martin Read  wrote:
>
>
> Install the 'xorg' package.
>


Yes it worked. After installing Xorg and typing 'startx' , i3 session
started.

That Great ! 

Thank you very much all for your quick replies.


With kind regards,

Dwijesh

On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 12:30 AM, Dwijesh Gajadur 
wrote:

> On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 12:23 AM, Martin Read  wrote:
>>
>>
>> Install the 'xorg' package.
>>
>
>
> Yes it worked. After installing Xorg and typing 'startx' , i3 session
> started.
>
> That Great ! 
>
> Thank you very much all for your quick replies.
>
>
> With kind regards,
>
> Dwijesh
>
>

Re: i3 Window manager without any other desktop environment

[Dwijesh Gajadur]

On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 12:23 AM, Martin Read  wrote:
>
>
> Install the 'xorg' package.
>


Yes it worked. After installing Xorg and typing 'startx' , i3 session
started.

That Great ! 

Thank you very much all for your quick replies.


With kind regards,

Dwijesh

On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 12:30 AM, Dwijesh Gajadur 
wrote:

> On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 12:23 AM, Martin Read  wrote:
>>
>>
>> Install the 'xorg' package.
>>
>
>
> Yes it worked. After installing Xorg and typing 'startx' , i3 session
> started.
>
> That Great ! 
>
> Thank you very much all for your quick replies.
>
>
> With kind regards,
>
> Dwijesh
>
>

Re: i3 Window manager without any other desktop environment

[Felix Miata]

Dwijesh Gajadur composed on 2015-11-11 00:19 (UTC+0400):

> When I type 'startx' it says 'command not found'

startx seems to be owned by the xinit .deb, so your i3 installation must not
have triggered complete, or maybe even any part of, installation of Xorg.
-- 
"The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant
words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)

 Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!

Felix Miata  ***  http://fm.no-ip.com/

Re: Debian 8.1 ext4 directory sizes

[tomas]

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On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 08:19:10PM +0100, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> >  tune2fs -l 
> 
> "You can tune a filesystem, but you cannot tune a fish."

Ah, oldies but goldies :-)

> Ok. I have features "dir_index" and "extent".
> But the directories don't shrink when being emptied.
> So proposed option 1 by Dan Ritter does not work for me.

I think those don't shrink directories.

> I still wonder for what a 3.8 GHz Xeon needs 2 seconds
> when scanning 7.5 MB of invalid directory entries in RAM.

This is pretty unfortunate, yes :-(

Seems you'll have to go with re-creating the dir. Or sneak in -D in the
regular file system check, if that's possible.

regards
- -- tomás
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Re: Debian 8.1 ext4 directory sizes

[Thomas Schmitt]

Hi,

to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> Seems you'll have to go with re-creating the dir.

Yes. I suffer on an elevated luxury level.

My Reiser FS showed substantial slowdown with mass file reading
after a few years. Inode lookup and data file opening both
dropped below half of the performance of a young filesystem.
Possibly the price for storage size efficiency.

But as said ... 2 seconds for "total 0" ...
Slaves ! Bring me my tear bottle !


Have a nice day :)

Thomas

Re: i3 Window manager without any other desktop environment

[Pete Orrall]

> After installing debian, I have installed the i3 window manager from the
> console. However after restarting the system, i don't get i3. I get the
> console.
>
> What should I do to start i3 when the system starts?
>
> I want to use only i3 and not any other desktop environment.

Howdy Dwijesh,

After logging into the console as yourself (not root), what happens
when you type startx  ?

Thanks and I look forward to hearing from you.

-- 
Pete Orrall
p...@cs1x.com
www.peteorrall.com
"If there isn't a way, I'll make one."

Fwd: i3 Window manager without any other desktop environment

[Dwijesh Gajadur]

On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 12:23 AM, Martin Read  wrote:
>
>
> Install the 'xorg' package.
>


Yes it worked. After installing Xorg and typing 'startx' , i3 session
started.

That Great ! 

Thank you very much all for your quick replies.


With kind regards,

Dwijesh

Re: i3 Window manager without any other desktop environment

[Brian]

On Tue 10 Nov 2015 at 23:57:04 +0400, Dwijesh Gajadur wrote:

> I have installed Debian wheezy 7.9 on my PC. I have not installed any
> desktop environment during the installation.
> 
> After installing debian, I have installed the i3 window manager from the
> console. However after restarting the system, i don't get i3. I get the
> console.
> 
> What should I do to start i3 when the system starts?
> 
> I want to use only i3 and not any other desktop environment.

After the system boots you will get a terminal. Log in and type 'startx'.

What happens?

Re: i3 Window manager without any other desktop environment

[Martin Read]

On 10/11/15 20:19, Dwijesh Gajadur wrote:

When I type 'startx' it says 'command not found'


Install the 'xorg' package.

Re: i3 Window manager without any other desktop environment

[Brian]

On Tue 10 Nov 2015 at 15:32:55 -0500, Felix Miata wrote:

> Dwijesh Gajadur composed on 2015-11-11 00:19 (UTC+0400):
> 
> > When I type 'startx' it says 'command not found'
> 
> startx seems to be owned by the xinit .deb, so your i3 installation must not
> have triggered complete, or maybe even any part of, installation of Xorg.

startx is indeed in the xinit package (provided by xorg) but nothing
went wrong with Dwijesh Gajadur's install  or the installation of the
software. Window managers do not depend on xorg being installed.

Re: Deux icônes wicd

[Bernard Schoenacker]

Le Tue, 10 Nov 2015 23:32:16 +0100,
andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit :

> Bonsoir,
> 
> Comment se fait-il que sous le bureau TDE (trinity),
> "wicd" semble lancé deux fois.
> 
> Il y a deux icônes dans la barre des tâches, en bas, à droite.
> 
> J'ai bien un seul processus "wicd" dans /etc/init.d/ et /etc/rc2.d/
> 
> Merci.
> 
> André
> 

bonjour,

réponse :

tout simplement que tu emploie un réseau filaire et l'autre est prévu
pour le wifi ( adresse IP différente )

slt
bernard

Re: Install MSWindz 7 as Virtual Machine on Debian 8

[basti]

I run some MS Server 2008 (R2) and some Win7 Hosts in KVM/Qemu since
years staring with Debian 6. 8 Weeks ago I upgrade the Host (Hypervisor)
to Debian 8 without any Problems.

A quick and dirty explanation I found here
http://serverfault.com/questions/631317/windows-7-as-kvm-guest-installation-with-virtio-drivers-detected-virtio-scsi-d


An other one in German
http://www.accso.de/wp/2012/07/windows-7-auf-kvm-mit-debian-6/

If you will use virtio drivers in windows you need virtio-driver
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Windows_Virtio_Drivers

Regards,
Basti


Am 10.11.2015 um 09:05 schrieb Himanshu Shekhar:
> As far as Windows 7 is concerned, I have used it on my laptop in
> VirtualBox, with 1 of total 4 gb ram, and I can assure that t works
> flawlessly.
> I can't say anything about Windows 10 as I haven't given it a try on
> Virtualbox, but Windows 7 does work well.
>
> Good luck
> Himanshu Shekhar

Re: Install MSWindz 7 as Virtual Machine on Debian 8

[Himanshu Shekhar]

As far as Windows 7 is concerned, I have used it on my laptop in
VirtualBox, with 1 of total 4 gb ram, and I can assure that t works
flawlessly.
I can't say anything about Windows 10 as I haven't given it a try on
Virtualbox, but Windows 7 does work well.

Good luck
Himanshu Shekhar

Re: fslint ui

[franiortiz hotmail]

>https://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting
gracias, lo comunicare

>error que se debe de notar nada más ejecutarlo y seleccionar los archivos
¿no?
totalmente correcto 

>¿Recibes algún mensaje de error? 
Ninguno
>¿Has probado a ejecutarlo desde una
consola? 
Si y findup funciona correctamente, pero echo de menos la ui

>¿Has intentando ejecutarlo desde otro usuario?
No, aunque me pasa lo miso en 1pc y 2 portatiles recien actualizados a jessie
y en los que antes fslint funcionaba sin problemas

Saludos

Re: Where is digikam?

[maderios]

On 11/09/2015 06:38 PM, Matthias Bodenbinder wrote:

Hi,

I see digikam in unstable for a very long time now. But it is not coming to 
testing. Why is that? Wasnt the push to testing supposed to be an automatic 
process? Or does digikam in unstable still have critical bugs? What is the 
reason for the delay?

Matthias


Hi
'Old' Digikam-4.4 is in Sid but  uninstallable.
Last Digikam 4.13 or 4.14 is uninstallable too, due to dependancies problem.
https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/digikam
https://qa.debian.org/developer.php?email=pkg-kde-extras%40lists.alioth.debian.org
New Digikam Qt5 based will be released next spring
https://www.digikam.org/about/releaseplan
https://www.digikam.org/download?q=download/GIT
--
Maderios

Re: Confirmacions comandes "amagades"

[Alex Muntada]

Joan Cervan:

> En una instal·lació de debian 8, quan faig algo com:
> 
> service ssh restart
> 
> No veig cap missatge de confirmació, només em torna a una nova
> línia de terminal.

Confirmo que em passa el mateix:

# service ssh status
● ssh.service - OpenBSD Secure Shell server
   Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/ssh.service; enabled)
   Active: active (running) since Fri 2015-10-23 12:48:42 CEST; 2 weeks 3 days 
ago
 Main PID: 590 (sshd)
   CGroup: /system.slice/ssh.service
   └─590 /usr/sbin/sshd -D

...
# service ssh restart
# service ssh status
● ssh.service - OpenBSD Secure Shell server
   Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/ssh.service; enabled)
   Active: active (running) since Tue 2015-11-10 10:42:46 CET; 3s ago
 Main PID: 31117 (sshd)
   CGroup: /system.slice/ssh.service
   └─31117 /usr/sbin/sshd -D

...

Cridant a l'script de l'init.d diu alguna cosa més, com apuntaven
fa una estona, però no mostra cap ok ni res:

# /etc/init.d/ssh restart
Restarting ssh (via systemctl): ssh.service.

El que no he provat és què passaria si no és capaç d'arrencar el
servei. Potser aleshores sí que es queixa. No em sembla malament.

Salut,
Alex

Re: umask for GUI applications?

[tomas]

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On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 08:27:26AM +0200, Tapio Lehtonen wrote:
> Is there a documented or supported way to set umask for GUI
> applications in Debian GNU/Linux?
> 
> I have project directory, where directories have +s and files and
> directories are group onwed by the project group. Users have umask set
> in .bashrc and creating files from command line creates the desired
> file permissions. But GUI applications, LibreOffice for example, do
> not use that umask and I must every now and then chmod -R g+w the
> project tree. 

I'd expect this to be the job ow whatever session manager you are
afflicted with. For example, if you're "on" Gnome, I'd look into
.gnomerc; I don't know whether Freedesktop has come up with a common
theme for that.

For desktopless users (like me, Fvwm), the "classic" X session mechanism
applies, rooted in /etc/X11/Xsession.

Regards
- -- tomás
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Re: Install MSWindz 7 as Virtual Machine on Debian 8

[tomas]

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On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 09:35:53AM +0100, basti wrote:
> I run some MS Server 2008 (R2) and some Win7 Hosts in KVM/Qemu since
> years staring with Debian 6. 8 Weeks ago I upgrade the Host (Hypervisor)
> to Debian 8 without any Problems.

Not a heavy user here, but also happy with KVM/Qemu. Thanks for the
links, btw!

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Re: Confirmacions comandes "amagades"

[Ernest Adrogué]

2015-11- 9, 21:26 (+0100); Sergi Blanch-Torné escriu:
> Tinc la impressió que el que comentes pot tenir a veure amb "Systemd".
> Però em desconcerta el que comentes d'apt-get.

Crec que es refereix a l'introductor "$" de la línia d'ordres, que es pot
configurar per que mostri algun indicador en funció del resultat de l'última
ordre.  Aquí expliquen com fer-ho:
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/16715103/bash-prompt-with-last-exit-code

Re: Re: An UML editor for Linux

[Vader]

— could you please recommend me some decent UML editor for Linux?



I've been using umbrello for basic stuff - If you want to draft application
components and get basic set of classes generated.
I checked umbrello in KDE4+ and i improved, though for official commercial
use I would not recommend it.


Why not for official/commercial use?


There is UML support in Eclipse as well.


That's interesting. Thanks. I see, there is the UML Designer — free and good 
looking. Seems very promising.

Piyavkin

Re: I think I've found a kernel/sound driver bug

[tomas]

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list)

On Mon, Nov 09, 2015 at 10:48:45PM +, Patrick May wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I think I've found a bug in a sound driver (snd-cs46xx) which causes a
> kernel panic when several sounds are played using the aplay command.

[1] and [2] are relevant here.

If you do an "dpkg -S snd-cs46xx", you can find out which package this
file comes from:

  tomas@rasputin:~$ dpkg -S snd-cs46xx
  linux-image-3.2.0-3-amd64: 
/lib/modules/3.2.0-3-amd64/kernel/sound/pci/cs46xx/snd-cs46xx.ko

Not surprising: it's part of the kernel (your version numbers will
almost surely be different). First, have a look at the bugs filed
against your kernel package. Ref [2] has a form which lets you do
that. If you don't find anything relevant, you can go on with reportbug:

> I tried to report this using reportbug, but I didn't know what package
> name to enter, so I'm contacting this address as directed by the
> reportbug instructions.
> 
> What should I do next?

Now I think you know your package and can invoke reportbug :-)

Hope this helps. Just ask if something's missing

regards
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[1] https://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting
[2] https://www.debian.org/Bugs/

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Re: exec et php

[Philippe Gras]

Le 10 nov. 2015 à 08:57, nicolas.pec...@laposte.net a écrit :

> Bonjour,
> 
> J'ai un petit soucis avec la fonction exec d'un script php.
> 
> le script suivant ne fonctionne pas:
>  exec("pdflatex fichier.tex");
> ?>
> 
> Je soupçonne un problème de configuration d'où ma question ici.
> 
Dans le php.ini, il existe une instruction pour interdire certaines fonctions
qui accèdent au serveur. La fonction exec en fait partie.

Je crois que c'est "disable functions = le nom des fonctions à désactiver".

exec et php

[nicolas . pechon]

Bonjour,

J'ai un petit soucis avec la fonction exec d'un script php.

le script suivant ne fonctionne pas:


Je soupçonne un problème de configuration d'où ma question ici.

En effet, ce script fonctionne sur un autre ordinateur.

Je précise que taper pdflatex fichier.tex dans un shell fonctionne 
parfaitement.


De même:


Fonctionne.

Ça doit être un truc tout bête, mais je ne trouve pas. :-(

Merci d'avance de vous pencher sur mon problème ou de d'indiquer si je 
ne suis pas au bon endroit ou je pourrais poser ma question.

Re: Tentatives de login avec dovecot

[andre_debian]

Bonjour,

Depuis les additifs dans "/etc/fail2ban/",
ça s'améliore avec quasiment plus de connexions,
aujourd'hui, une seule et limitée à 2 :

dovecot: Invalid Users: Unknown Account: 2 Time(s)
Unknown Entries:
authentication failure; logname= uid=0 euid=0 tty=dovecot 
ruser=@ rhost=88.191.250.166 : 2 Time(s).

André

Re: "rc.local" no Debian-8

[Sergio Durigan Junior]

On Tuesday, November 10 2015, Keppler wrote:

> Acho que com o "systemd" o "/etc/rc.local" parou de funcionar, pois os
> scripts que nas versões anteriores eu colocava no "rc.local"
> funcionava. Mas agora nesta nova versão do Debian não mais.

Dê uma olhada no rc-local.service:

  systemctl status rc-local.service

O script tem que ser executável, e ser chamado /etc/rc.d/rc.local.

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RE: "rc.local" no Debian-8

[Luiz L. Marins]

O script eu ponho no /usr/local/bin/script.sh
e adiciono a linha no /etc/rc.local: /usr/local/bin/script.sh
funciona de boa.

> From: sergi...@sergiodj.net
> To: jurgenkepp...@gmail.com
> CC: debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: "rc.local" no Debian-8
> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2015 20:22:21 -0500
> 
> On Tuesday, November 10 2015, Keppler wrote:
> 
> > Acho que com o "systemd" o "/etc/rc.local" parou de funcionar, pois os
> > scripts que nas versões anteriores eu colocava no "rc.local"
> > funcionava. Mas agora nesta nova versão do Debian não mais.
> 
> Dê uma olhada no rc-local.service:
> 
>   systemctl status rc-local.service
> 
> O script tem que ser executável, e ser chamado /etc/rc.d/rc.local.
> 
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> 
  

Persistence

[Matilda Fins]

Is there a way to create a Debian live usb flash drive with persistence? If
so, how?

Re: LXDE Display Coordination

[ray]

Felix,

Thank you for following up.
 
> what is output from
> 
>   # 
# cat /proc/cmdline
placeholder root=/dev/mapper/mycomp--vg-root ro initrd=/install/gtk/initrd.gz 
quiet

 
> what is output from
> 
>   # fbset
# fbset
bash: fbset: command not found

 
> Is your desired desktop result persisting across reboots?
This is interesting.  It is persistent for the user this was setup under.  The 
other users have not changed to 1920x1080.  Note, root has 1920x1080 desktop 
from the original session shell command.  Note 2, the boot paramters for 
1290x1080 have been removed.


> Pastebin your current /boot/grub/grub.cfg

# cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg
#
# DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE
#
# It is automatically generated by grub-mkconfig using templates
# from /etc/grub.d and settings from /etc/default/grub
#

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/00_header ###
if [ -s $prefix/grubenv ]; then
  set have_grubenv=true
  load_env
fi
if [ "${next_entry}" ] ; then
   set default="${next_entry}"
   set next_entry=
   save_env next_entry
   set boot_once=true
else
   set default="0"
fi

if [ x"${feature_menuentry_id}" = xy ]; then
  menuentry_id_option="--id"
else
  menuentry_id_option=""
fi

export menuentry_id_option

if [ "${prev_saved_entry}" ]; then
  set saved_entry="${prev_saved_entry}"
  save_env saved_entry
  set prev_saved_entry=
  save_env prev_saved_entry
  set boot_once=true
fi

function savedefault {
  if [ -z "${boot_once}" ]; then
saved_entry="${chosen}"
save_env saved_entry
  fi
}
function load_video {
  if [ x$feature_all_video_module = xy ]; then
insmod all_video
  else
insmod efi_gop
insmod efi_uga
insmod ieee1275_fb
insmod vbe
insmod vga
insmod video_bochs
insmod video_cirrus
  fi
}

if [ x$feature_default_font_path = xy ] ; then
   font=unicode
else
insmod part_msdos
insmod lvm
insmod ext2
set 
root='lvmid/zdQL0Z-RLB5-BQfF-G9pl-k1DK-crrL-RlIP5a/jksGDx-tjSk-o6Ri-neGR-Hh8t-lpVF-vfXcZ6'
if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 
--hint='lvmid/zdQL0Z-RLB5-BQfF-G9pl-k1DK-crrL-RlIP5a/jksGDx-tjSk-o6Ri-neGR-Hh8t-lpVF-vfXcZ6'
  a9b6175b-77e2-4a39-ad51-6de45fb11cb5
else
  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root a9b6175b-77e2-4a39-ad51-6de45fb11cb5
fi
font="/usr/share/grub/unicode.pf2"
fi

if loadfont $font ; then
  set gfxmode=auto
  load_video
  insmod gfxterm
  set locale_dir=$prefix/locale
  set lang=en_US
  insmod gettext
fi
terminal_output gfxterm
if [ "${recordfail}" = 1 ] ; then
  set timeout=-1
else
  if [ x$feature_timeout_style = xy ] ; then
set timeout_style=menu
set timeout=3
  # Fallback normal timeout code in case the timeout_style feature is
  # unavailable.
  else
set timeout=3
  fi
fi
play 480 440 1
### END /etc/grub.d/00_header ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/05_debian_theme ###
insmod part_msdos
insmod lvm
insmod ext2
set 
root='lvmid/zdQL0Z-RLB5-BQfF-G9pl-k1DK-crrL-RlIP5a/jksGDx-tjSk-o6Ri-neGR-Hh8t-lpVF-vfXcZ6'
if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 
--hint='lvmid/zdQL0Z-RLB5-BQfF-G9pl-k1DK-crrL-RlIP5a/jksGDx-tjSk-o6Ri-neGR-Hh8t-lpVF-vfXcZ6'
  a9b6175b-77e2-4a39-ad51-6de45fb11cb5
else
  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root a9b6175b-77e2-4a39-ad51-6de45fb11cb5
fi
insmod png
if background_image /usr/share/images/desktop-base/lines-grub.png; then
  set color_normal=white/black
  set color_highlight=black/white
else
  set menu_color_normal=cyan/blue
  set menu_color_highlight=white/blue
fi
### END /etc/grub.d/05_debian_theme ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/08_linux_xen ###
menuentry 'Debian GNU/Linux, with Xen hypervisor' --class debian --class 
gnu-linux --class gnu --class os --class xen $menuentry_id_option 
'xen-gnulinux-simple-a9b6175b-77e2-4a39-ad51-6de45fb11cb5' {
insmod part_msdos
insmod ext2
set root='hd0,msdos1'
if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos1 
--hint-efi=hd0,msdos1 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos1  
4c9659eb-cae9-4a32-b155-8fd958a59d62
else
  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 
4c9659eb-cae9-4a32-b155-8fd958a59d62
fi
echo'Loading Xen 4.4-amd64 ...'
if [ "$grub_platform" = "pc" -o "$grub_platform" = "" ]; then
xen_rm_opts=
else
xen_rm_opts="no-real-mode edd=off"
fi
multiboot   /xen-4.4-amd64.gz placeholder   ${xen_rm_opts}
echo'Loading Linux 3.16.0-4-amd64 ...'
module  /vmlinuz-3.16.0-4-amd64 placeholder 
root=/dev/mapper/mycomp--vg-root ro initrd=/install/gtk/initrd.gz quiet
echo'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
module  --nounzip   /initrd.img-3.16.0-4-amd64
}
submenu 'Advanced options for Debian GNU/Linux (with Xen hypervisor)' 
$menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-advanced-a9b6175b-77e2-4a39-ad51-6de45fb11cb5' {
submenu 'Xen hypervisor, version 4.4-amd64' $menuentry_id_option 

Re: exec et php

[Philippe Gras]

Le 10 nov. 2015 à 12:26, nicolas.pec...@laposte.net a écrit :

> Le 2015-11-10 11:32, Philippe Gras a écrit :
>> Le 10 nov. 2015 à 08:57, nicolas.pec...@laposte.net a écrit :
>>> Bonjour,
>>> J'ai un petit soucis avec la fonction exec d'un script php.
>>> le script suivant ne fonctionne pas:
>>> >> exec("pdflatex fichier.tex");
>>> ?>
>>> Je soupçonne un problème de configuration d'où ma question ici.
>> Dans le php.ini, il existe une instruction pour interdire certaines fonctions
>> qui accèdent au serveur. La fonction exec en fait partie.
>> Je crois que c'est "disable functions = le nom des fonctions à désactiver".
> 
> 
> Effectivement, j'ai enlevé l'option: pcntl_exec
> 
> redémarrer apache2, mais rien n'y fait. :-(
> 
Ce n'est pas la bonne fonction : pcntl-exec != exec ;

http://php.net/manual/fr/function.pcntl-exec.php
http://php.net/manual/fr/function.exec.php

Re: Confirmacions comandes "amagades"

[x...@nodo50.org]

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El 10/11/15 a les 10:53, Alex Muntada ha escrit:
> El que no he provat és què passaria si no és capaç d'arrencar el 
> servei. Potser aleshores sí que es queixa. No em sembla malament.

NO és el mateix servei, però per si serveix una mostra d'error amb
queixa incorporada.

és d'ahir a la matinada, havent fet un dist-upgrade a jessie

root@docus:/# service apache2 restart
Job for apache2.service failed. See 'systemctl status apache2.service'
and 'journalctl -xn' for details.
root@docus:/# /etc/init.d/apache2 status
● apache2.service - LSB: Apache2 web server
   Loaded: loaded (/etc/init.d/apache2)
   Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since Mon 2015-11-09 00:19:20
UTC; 26s ago
  Process: 8374 ExecStop=/etc/init.d/apache2 stop (code=exited,
status=0/SUCCESS)
  Process: 8401 ExecStart=/etc/init.d/apache2 start (code=exited,
status=1/FAILURE)

Nov 09 00:19:20 docus systemd[1]: Starting LSB: Apache2 web server...
Nov 09 00:19:20 docus apache2[8401]: Starting web server: apache2 failed
!
Nov 09 00:19:20 docus apache2[8401]: The apache2 configtest failed.
... (warning).
Nov 09 00:19:20 docus apache2[8401]: Output of config test was:
Nov 09 00:19:20 docus apache2[8401]: AH00526: Syntax error on line 14
of /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default.conf:
Nov 09 00:19:20 docus apache2[8401]: AllowOverride not allowed here
Nov 09 00:19:20 docus apache2[8401]: Action 'configtest' failed.
Nov 09 00:19:20 docus apache2[8401]: The Apache error log may have
more information.
Nov 09 00:19:20 docus systemd[1]: apache2.service: control process
exited, code=exited status=1
Nov 09 00:19:20 docus systemd[1]: Failed to start LSB: Apache2 web serve
r.
Nov 09 00:19:20 docus systemd[1]: Unit apache2.service entered failed
state.


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Re: exec et php

[nicolas . pechon]

Le 2015-11-10 11:32, Philippe Gras a écrit :

Le 10 nov. 2015 à 08:57, nicolas.pec...@laposte.net a écrit :


Bonjour,

J'ai un petit soucis avec la fonction exec d'un script php.

le script suivant ne fonctionne pas:


Je soupçonne un problème de configuration d'où ma question ici.

Dans le php.ini, il existe une instruction pour interdire certaines 
fonctions

qui accèdent au serveur. La fonction exec en fait partie.

Je crois que c'est "disable functions = le nom des fonctions à 
désactiver".



Effectivement, j'ai enlevé l'option: pcntl_exec

redémarrer apache2, mais rien n'y fait. :-(

Re: Install MSWindz 7 as Virtual Machine on Debian 8

[Stuart Longland]

On 10/11/15 04:58, D Dimov wrote:
> I need to install MS Windows 7 as a Virtual Machine on a computer that
> is running Debian 8. To do that, I'd like to use software that is not
> proprietory (I know, I know - this may sounds a bit ridiculous...). This
> Debian page: https://wiki.debian.org/SystemVirtualization recommends
> Qemu, KVM, VirtualBox, and Zen. Does anyone have recommendations for
> which one is easiest to install for a novice? I tried the first one,
> Qemu, but didn't really find a good guide how to install MS Win 7 with it.
> Thanks!

The others have recommended VirtualBox, but an alternative suggestion:
install libvirt-bin and virt-manager.

The former is a management interface for KVM/Xen/LXC and a few others,
and handles the logic of setting up the virtualisation for you.

The latter is a GUI front-end for libvirt.  Using it is much like using
VirtualBox.  Not quite as polished, but VirtualBox isn't as nice to use
on a headless machine either.
-- 
Stuart Longland (aka Redhatter, VK4MSL)

I haven't lost my mind...
  ...it's backed up on a tape somewhere.



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Re: LXDE Display Coordination

[Felix Miata]

Chris Bannister composed on 2015-11-11 19:38 (UTC+1300):

> On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 09:23:38PM -0500, Felix Miata wrote:

>> Pasting logs and configs into email puts it wasting space in the mailing list
>> archive forever.

>> Pastebinning is temporary, a week or month or whatever the particular paste
>> host is configured for.

> So that means that searches through the archive will get a 404 instead
> of the info which they're looking for. Seems a bit silly, don't you
> think?

Not at all, as they're typically obsolete quickly, unlikely useful other than
for solving an OP's particular issues dependent on his unique hardware
configuration, looking for one or two short strings typically hard to
describe so that the help requester could ID and provide them within concise
context to prospective helpers.

When I'm doing the mailing list Googling, I skip those with long pastes or
attachments, trying to make my search time more effective by limiting
attention to those written with concision.

When stuff like full logs or grub.conf rather than snippits are attached to
or pasted in an email, I'm more likely to ignore them than work with them.
Typically, line wrapping done on an email sent makes a mess of things.
They're much more manageable in browser windows than email windows, and
separately from reply composition. And in this thread, the OP kept starting
his posts as if I were the only one he was writing to, so with no one else
continuing to try to help him, opportune time to make a request more likely
to enable me to do a better, or any, job helping further.
-- 
"The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant
words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)

 Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!

Felix Miata  ***  http://fm.no-ip.com/

Re: LXDE Display Coordination

[Felix Miata]

ray composed on 2015-11-10 17:22 (UTC-0800):

>> what is output from

>>  # 
> # cat /proc/cmdline
> placeholder root=/dev/mapper/mycomp--vg-root ro initrd=/install/gtk/initrd.gz 
> quiet

Rather sparse, with nothing attempting to impact display configuration, other
than hiding init messages (quiet). Did you do that as user instead of root?
If not as root, do again as root.

>> what is output from

>>  # fbset

> # fbset
> bash: fbset: command not found

# apt-get install fbset and try again.

>> Is your desired desktop result persisting across reboots?

> This is interesting.  It is persistent for the user this was setup under.  
> The other users have not changed to 1920x1080.  Note, root has 1920x1080 
> desktop from the original session shell command.  Note 2, the boot paramters 
> for 1290x1080 have been removed.

How best to proceed depends on whether you want configuration done for only
individual user(s), or globally. If you want global, then everything done in
$HOME needs to be migrated out or eliminated.
-- 
"The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant
words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)

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Re: LXDE Display Coordination

[Felix Miata]

>> Pastebin your current /boot/grub/grub.cfg

Pastebin means upload the information to

http://paste.debian.net/

or

http://pastebin.com/

or

http://paste.opensuse.org/

or

http://paste.ubuntu.com/

or equivalent, or to your own personal web space, and put a link thereto in
your mailing list reply.

Pasting logs and configs into email puts it wasting space in the mailing list
archive forever.

Pastebinning is temporary, a week or month or whatever the particular paste
host is configured for.
-- 
"The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant
words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)

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Re: LXDE Display Coordination

[Chris Bannister]

On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 09:23:38PM -0500, Felix Miata wrote:
> >> Pastebin your current /boot/grub/grub.cfg
> 
> Pastebin means upload the information to
> 
>   http://paste.debian.net/
> 
> or
> 
>   http://pastebin.com/
> 
> or
> 
>   http://paste.opensuse.org/
> 
> or
> 
>   http://paste.ubuntu.com/
> 
> or equivalent, or to your own personal web space, and put a link thereto in
> your mailing list reply.
> 
> Pasting logs and configs into email puts it wasting space in the mailing list
> archive forever.
> 
> Pastebinning is temporary, a week or month or whatever the particular paste
> host is configured for.

So that means that searches through the archive will get a 404 instead
of the info which they're looking for. Seems a bit silly, don't you
think?

-- 
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who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the 
oppressing." --- Malcolm X

Re: LXDE Display Coordination

[Brian]

On Tue 10 Nov 2015 at 21:23:38 -0500, Felix Miata wrote:

> >> Pastebin your current /boot/grub/grub.cfg
> 
> Pastebin means upload the information to
> 
>   http://paste.debian.net/
> 
> or
> 
>   http://pastebin.com/
> 
> or
> 
>   http://paste.opensuse.org/
> 
> or
> 
>   http://paste.ubuntu.com/
> 
> or equivalent, or to your own personal web space, and put a link thereto in
> your mailing list reply.
> 
> Pasting logs and configs into email puts it wasting space in the mailing list
> archive forever.

No log or config which helps in solving a problem is wasted space.
A grub.cfg is not large.

> Pastebinning is temporary, a week or month or whatever the particular paste
> host is configured for.

Temporary means context is lost.

Mr Bernard (était Re: Deux icônes wicd

[Georges]

Le Wed, 11 Nov 2015 00:26:17 +0100,

BS a écrit :

> Le Tue, 10 Nov 2015 23:32:16 +0100,
> andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit :
> 
> > Bonsoir,
[couic ...] 
> bonjour,
[couic ..] 
> réponse :
> 
> tout simplement que tu emploie un réseau filaire et l'autre est prévu
> pour le wifi ( adresse IP différente )
> 
> slt
> bernard

Bonjour Mr Bernard ;-)

 Comment se fait il qu'il a réponse à presque tout ?

 Je me régale de ses réponses, et à chaque fois je m'instruit un peu
 plus ;-)  Merci Mr Bernard ;-) 

Re: Confirmacions comandes "amagades"

[Joan Cervan]

El Mon, 09 Nov 2015 21:26:41 +0100
Sergi Blanch-Torné  va escriure:

> Hola,
> 
> Tinc la impressió que el que comentes pot tenir a veure amb "Systemd".
> Però em desconcerta el que comentes d'apt-get. Si és la teva primera
> debian 8, això tindria relació amb que fins a la 7 la gestió de
> l'arranc de serveis era "SysVinit". El scripts del /etc/init.d, així
> com la comanda service.
> 
> Amb el canvi a systemd, després de llargues discussions, es manté la
> interfície que molts tenim acostumada. Però hem d'anar pensant a
> canviar a usar systemctl.
> 
> Fent un cop d'ull, veig que tant la comanda que comentes com la que
> crec que es correspon amb systemd:
> # systemctl restart ssh.service
> No generen res al stdout. En canvi potser el que busques et sortirà
> amb: # /etc/init.d/ssh restart
> [ ok ] Restarting ssh (via systemctl): ssh.service.

Ei, doncs podria ser això... a la màquina a on em surt el missatge com
el que poses a la línia superior, tinc una debian 7, i en canvi la que
no em diu ni mu te una debian 8...

Pd.: no tinc cap problema d'ssh o dpkg... només em mosquejava no rebre
els missatges que confirmen "el que està passant" (un servei
reiniciant-se, etc.). Si és el comportament per defecte, alabat sia
déu...

Salutacions i gràcies per les respostes,

Joan



> 
> Sobre l'apt-get, pots explicar-te una mica més?
> 
> /Sergi.
> 
> On 09/11/15 18:14, Adam Deosdad wrote:
> > hola, crec que és la meva primera coŀlaboració, tot i que fa temps
> > que estic al grup,
> > el paquet per instaŀlar és el openssh-server
> > i després has d'editar l'arxiu /etc/ssh/sshd_config segons les teves
> > necessitats,
> > 
> > El dia 9 de novembre de 2015, 17:28, Ernest Adrogué
> >  ha escrit:
> > 
> >> 2015-11- 9, 16:09 (+0100); Joan Cervan escriu:
> >>> Hola,
> >>>
> >>> En una instal·lació de debian 8, quan faig algo com:
> >>>
> >>> service ssh restart
> >>>
> >>> No veig cap missatge de confirmació, només em torna a una nova
> >>> línia de terminal.
> >>>
> >>> En altres ordinadors, em sortia una línia en verd confirmant-me
> >>> que la cosa havia anat bé... Em pasa amb totes les comandes, com
> >>> per exemple apt-get install elquesigui.deb
> >>>
> >>> Diria que aquesta instal·lació de debian, precuinada en un
> >>> servidor cloud (iwstack), deu tenir alguna opció tipus "no
> >>> prompt" però en la línia de "no verbose, no mostrar missatges"...
> >>>
> >>> Us sona?
> >>
> >> No, no ho he vist mai a la configuració per defecte de Debian.
> >> Altres distribucions ho tenen però concretament Debian no, que jo
> >> sàpiga.
> >>
> >>
> > 
> > 
> 



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Re: [OT] Sobre manejo de releases de dos Proyectos separados con GIT

[David Helmut Reese Molinas]

Perfecto.
Gracias

El 9 de noviembre de 2015, 21:22, Angel Claudio Alvarez <
an...@angel-alvarez.com.ar> escribió:

> El Mon, 9 Nov 2015 11:07:13 -0300
> David Helmut Reese Molinas  escribió:
>
> > Buen Dia
> >
> > Sé que el tema es bastante OT, pero tomando en cuenta que la mayoria de
> los
> > que están en esta lista tienen experiencia en desarrollo con proyectos
> > grandes me parece que podriamos compartir algunas experiencias de manera
> a
> > poder solucionar un dilema que estoy teniendo.
> > No es precisamente un problema, sino más bien un tema de organización. Me
> > interesa saber cómo lo hacen (o lo harían si aún no tuvieron la
> > experiencia) en un panorama como el siguiente.
> >
>
> Ni siquiera califica como OT
>
> > Estamos trabajando en un proyecto de sistema web basado en servicios.
> > Tenemos el proyecto de la capa backend y el de la capa front-end en dos
> > proyectos separados, por tanto también repositorios separados, dentro del
> > GitLab institucional.
> >
> > Como nuestro backend aún no es una rama estable, los servicios podrían
> > sufrir cambios en cuanto los datos que reciben tanto como los que
> devuelven.
> > Lo mismo sucede con la capa del front-end, con la diferencia de que el
> > front-end obviamente depende de los servicios para funcionar.
> >
> > Actualmente estamos manejando el esquema recomendado por GIT para los
> > branches (las explicaciones están resumidas, pero espero que se
> entiendan):
> > - Master: El release de produccion
> > - Develop: El release de testing, utilizado para pruebas de integración
> > antes del paso a producción
> > - Hot-fixes: Para corrección de errores
> > - Features: Para las nuevas funcionalidades o actualizaciones sobre
> > funcionalidades existentes.
> >
> > El tema es que cada capa (front-end y back-end), al tratarse cada uno de
> un
> > proyecto "independiente", tiene su propio numero de version y release.
> > Por ahora lo que hacemos es separar los pasos a producción (actualmente
> en
> > beta) de ambos proyectos en dos partes:
> >
> > -- La primera es el lanzamiento del release de cada proyecto conteniendo
> > modificaciones que no afecten al otro proyecto:
> > - Por ejemplo: Corrección de un error en el back-end, cambio de
> una
> > etiqueta en el front-end, etc.
> >
> > -- La segunda es el lanzamiento de releases conteniendo modificaciones
> que
> > afecten al otro proyecto, o sea que el paso a producción se hace de ambos
> > proyectos a la vez:
> > - Por ejemplo:
> > - Se elimina un campo en algún servicio en el back-end,
> > - el front-end necesita consumir ese servicio y al no encontrar
> un
> > campo, la aplicación lanza un error hasta que sea corregido el codigo en
> el
> > front-end
> >
> > El problema que estamos teniendo es con la segundo tipo de paso a
> > producción mencionado; y aquí me explico mejor:
> > Cuando se lanza una modificacion a un servicio (proyecto backend) se
> > verifica que todo funcione en el proyecto y se pasa a develop.
> > Se trabaja entonces con las modificaciones en el front-end para consumir
> el
> > servicio con esta modificación.
> >
> > ¿Cómo nos organizaríamos o deberíamos organizarnos con los releases de
> cada
> > proyecto como para no lanzar una version que pueda romper algo en el otro
> > proyecto?
> >
> > Me recomendaron crear dos numeraciones de releases en los milestones...
> > - un número de versión sería la de cada proyecto individual, o sea,
> > backend-1.0.4 o frontend-1.2.3...
> > - otra numeración de sería la de el proyecto completo... Proyecto-1.3
> >
> > O sea que si se crea un milestone (sería para identificar todo lo que
> > debería entrar en una versión específica) backend-1.0.5 entendemos que
> > todavia no se lanzará a producción, pero si se crea un milestone
> > proyecto-1.0.6 corresponde a lo que se lanzará a producción en conjunto
> con
> > el frontend, y espera a que en el otro proyecto alcance el mismo
> milestone
> > proyecto-1.0.6 para lanzar ambos al mismo tiempo...
> >
> > La idea es saber siempre cuando estoy "habilitado" a lanzar una
> > modificación a producción del backend sin que esto afecte negativamente
> al
> > frontend... es bastante trivial hasta cierto punto, pero igualmente
> siempre
> > tenemos problemas, y si bien estoy recibiendo bastantes consejos de otros
> > colegas me gustaría conocer la opinión de la comunidad.
> >
> > Siento mucho si no se entiende correctamente, estoy haciendo un esfuerzo
> > por explicarlo bien.
> > Igualmente gracias por si se tomaron el tiempo de leerlo y tratar de
> > entenderlo, y perdonen si les parece una pérdida de tiempo.
> >
> > Gracias de antemano para todos
> >
> > --
> > 
> > David H. Reese M.
> > Investigación y Desarrollo
> > Dirección Nacional de Contrataciones Públicas
> > Asunción - Paraguay
> > Teléfono: 595 971 351390
> > 
>
>
> --
> Angel Claudio Alvarez 

Re: exec et php

[pmenier]

Le 10/11/2015 08:57, nicolas.pec...@laposte.net a écrit :

Bonjour,

J'ai un petit soucis avec la fonction exec d'un script php.

le script suivant ne fonctionne pas:


Je soupçonne un problème de configuration d'où ma question ici.

En effet, ce script fonctionne sur un autre ordinateur.

Je précise que taper pdflatex fichier.tex dans un shell fonctionne
parfaitement.

De même:


Fonctionne.

Ça doit être un truc tout bête, mais je ne trouve pas. :-(

Merci d'avance de vous pencher sur mon problème ou de d'indiquer si je
ne suis pas au bon endroit ou je pourrais poser ma question.




Salut

Et en mettant le chemin absolu vers pdflatex ?

Patrick

Re: exec et php

[nicolas . pechon]

Le 2015-11-10 13:00, Philippe Gras a écrit :

Le 10 nov. 2015 à 12:26, nicolas.pec...@laposte.net a écrit :

Effectivement, j'ai enlevé l'option: pcntl_exec

redémarrer apache2, mais rien n'y fait. :-(


Ce n'est pas la bonne fonction : pcntl-exec != exec ;

http://php.net/manual/fr/function.pcntl-exec.php
http://php.net/manual/fr/function.exec.php


Oui, je m'en doutais bien. mais, j'ai fait le test vu l'absence de exec 
dans disable functions


J'avance un peu.

J'ai fait:


A la fin du fichier j'ai:

 " [106]=> string(75) 
"[1{/var/lib/texmf/fonts/map/pdftex/updmap/pdftex.map} 
<../../images/3.png>]" [107]=> string(28) "(./test.aux) )" [108]=> 
string(52) "(see the transcript file for additional information)" 
[109]=> string(79) "!pdfTeX error: /usr/bin/pdflatex (file tcti1200): 
Font tcti1200 at 600 not foun" [110]=> string(1) "d" [111]=> string(55) 
" ==> Fatal error occurred, no output PDF file produced!" }



Mais, je sais pas trop quoi en faire. Surtout que dans une console, un 
pdflatex test.tex fonctionne

Installation

[Christophe M]

Bonjour

Je voudrais savoir qu'elle version de Debian je peux installer sur un Asus
Z53J, car après plusieurs essais la vidéo est correcte au départ mais quand
l'installation et fini je ne vois que des traits sur l'écran. Je pense que
c'est un pb du driver pour ma vidéo.

Dans l'attente  cordialement

Deux icônes wicd

[andre_debian]

Bonsoir,

Comment se fait-il que sous le bureau TDE (trinity),
"wicd" semble lancé deux fois.

Il y a deux icônes dans la barre des tâches, en bas, à droite.

J'ai bien un seul processus "wicd" dans /etc/init.d/ et /etc/rc2.d/

Merci.

André

"rc.local" no Debian-8

[Keppler]

Olá pessoal!
Acho que com o "systemd" o "/etc/rc.local" parou de funcionar, pois os 
scripts que nas versões anteriores eu colocava no "rc.local" funcionava. 
Mas agora nesta nova versão do Debian não mais.


Alguém pode me dar uma ajudar sobre como isto funciona agora?

grato,
Jurgen

Re: Persistence

[Himanshu Shekhar]

On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 7:09 AM, Matilda Fins  wrote:

> Is there a way to create a Debian live usb flash drive with persistence?
> If so, how?
>

The following article illustrates this
Linux Community Blogs


Regards
Himanshu Shekhar

Re: Icedove, Iceweasel i Konquerror es tanquen als 15 segons.

[Narcis Garcia]

i això?

libGL error: failed to load driver: swrast


El 09/11/15 a les 22:03, Jordi Boixader ha escrit:
> Si que surten missatges, i força semblants als 3... (sento que siguin
> tant llargs)
> 
> jordi@boixader:~$ icedove
> 
> (process:7388): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion
> 'sys_page_size == 0' failed
> Xlib:  extension "RANDR" missing on display ":0".
> [PIPELIGHT:LIN:unknown] attached to process.
> [PIPELIGHT:LIN:unknown] checking environment variable
> PIPELIGHT_SILVERLIGHT5_1_CONFIG.
> [PIPELIGHT:LIN:unknown] searching for config file pipelight-silverlight5.1.
> [PIPELIGHT:LIN:unknown] trying to load config file from
> '/home/jordi/.config/pipelight-silverlight5.1'.
> [PIPELIGHT:LIN:unknown] trying to load config file from
> '/etc/pipelight-silverlight5.1'.
> [PIPELIGHT:LIN:unknown] trying to load config file from
> '/usr/share/pipelight/configs/pipelight-silverlight5.1'.
> [PIPELIGHT:LIN:unknown] sandbox not found or not installed!
> [PIPELIGHT:LIN:silverlight5.1] using wine prefix directory
> /home/jordi/.wine-pipelight.
> [PIPELIGHT:LIN:silverlight5.1] checking plugin installation - this might
> take some time.
> [install-dependency] wine-silverlight5.1-installer is already installed
> in '/home/jordi/.wine-pipelight'.
> [install-dependency] wine-mpg2splt-installer is already installed in
> '/home/jordi/.wine-pipelight'.
> fixme:winediag:start_process Wine Staging 1.7.54 is a testing version
> containing experimental patches.
> fixme:winediag:start_process Please mention your exact version when
> filing bug reports on winehq.org .
> wine: cannot find L"C:\\windows\\system32\\winemenubuilder.exe"
> err:wineboot:ProcessRunKeys Error running cmd
> L"C:\\windows\\system32\\winemenubuilder.exe -a -r" (2)
> [PIPELIGHT:WIN:silverlight5.1] embedded mode is on.
> [PIPELIGHT:WIN:silverlight5.1] windowless mode   is off.
> [PIPELIGHT:WIN:silverlight5.1] linux windowless mode is off.
> [PIPELIGHT:WIN:silverlight5.1] force SetWindow   is off.
> [PIPELIGHT:WIN:silverlight5.1] window class hook is on.
> [PIPELIGHT:WIN:silverlight5.1] strict draw ordering  is off.
> [PIPELIGHT:WIN:silverlight5.1] replaced API function CreateWindowExA.
> [PIPELIGHT:WIN:silverlight5.1] replaced API function CreateWindowExW.
> [PIPELIGHT:WIN:silverlight5.1] replaced API function TrackPopupMenuEx.
> [PIPELIGHT:WIN:silverlight5.1] replaced API function TrackPopupMenu.
> fixme:advapi:RegisterTraceGuidsW (0x7421a7, 0x7e0120,
> {aa087e0e-0b35-4e28-8f3a-440c3f51eef1}, 1, 0x6cf638, (null), (null),
> 0x7e0120): stub
> fixme:advapi:RegisterTraceGuidsW   register trace class
> {aa087e0e-0b35-4e28-8f3a-440c3f51eef1}
> [PIPELIGHT:WIN:silverlight5.1] init successful!
> libGL error: No matching fbConfigs or visuals found
> libGL error: failed to load driver: swrast
> X Error of failed request:  BadValue (integer parameter out of range for
> operation)
>   Major opcode of failed request:  149 (GLX)
>   Minor opcode of failed request:  3 (X_GLXCreateContext)
>   Value in failed request:  0x0
>   Serial number of failed request:  184
>   Current serial number in output stream:  188
> [PIPELIGHT:LIN:silverlight5.1] common.c:183:receiveCommand(): unable to
> receive data.
> jordi@boixader:~$ ^C
> jordi@boixader:~$ 
> 
> 
> 
> jordi@boixader:~$ iceweasel
>   
>
> 
> (process:7526): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion
> 'sys_page_size == 0' failed 
> Xlib:  extension "RANDR" missing on display ":0".  
> 
> console.error:  
>
>   [CustomizableUI]  
>
>   Custom widget with id loop-button does not return a valid node
> 
> console.error:  
> 
>   [CustomizableUI]
>   Custom widget with id loop-button does not return a valid node
> [PIPELIGHT:LIN:unknown] attached to process.
> [PIPELIGHT:LIN:unknown] checking environment variable
> PIPELIGHT_SILVERLIGHT5_1_CONFIG.
> [PIPELIGHT:LIN:unknown] searching for config file pipelight-silverlight5.1.
> [PIPELIGHT:LIN:unknown] trying to load config file from
> '/home/jordi/.config/pipelight-silverlight5.1'.
> [PIPELIGHT:LIN:unknown] trying to load config file from
> '/etc/pipelight-silverlight5.1'.
> [PIPELIGHT:LIN:unknown] trying to load config file from
> '/usr/share/pipelight/configs/pipelight-silverlight5.1'.
> [PIPELIGHT:LIN:unknown] sandbox not found or not installed!
> [PIPELIGHT:LIN:silverlight5.1] using wine prefix directory
> /home/jordi/.wine-pipelight.
> [PIPELIGHT:LIN:silverlight5.1] checking plugin installation - this might
> take some time.
> [install-dependency] 

Re: Confirmacions comandes "amagades"

[Narcis Garcia]

Aquest comportament de donar el codi de sortida jo l'havia vist a
Android/Cyanogenmod.


El 10/11/15 a les 10:26, Ernest Adrogué ha escrit:
> 2015-11- 9, 21:26 (+0100); Sergi Blanch-Torné escriu:
>> Tinc la impressió que el que comentes pot tenir a veure amb "Systemd".
>> Però em desconcerta el que comentes d'apt-get.
> 
> Crec que es refereix a l'introductor "$" de la línia d'ordres, que es pot
> configurar per que mostri algun indicador en funció del resultat de l'última
> ordre.  Aquí expliquen com fer-ho:
> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/16715103/bash-prompt-with-last-exit-code
> 

Re: exec et php

[nicolas . pechon]

Le 2015-11-10 13:27, pmenier a écrit :

Le 10/11/2015 08:57, nicolas.pec...@laposte.net a écrit :

Bonjour,

J'ai un petit soucis avec la fonction exec d'un script php.

le script suivant ne fonctionne pas:


Je soupçonne un problème de configuration d'où ma question ici.

En effet, ce script fonctionne sur un autre ordinateur.

Je précise que taper pdflatex fichier.tex dans un shell fonctionne
parfaitement.

De même:


Fonctionne.

Ça doit être un truc tout bête, mais je ne trouve pas. :-(

Merci d'avance de vous pencher sur mon problème ou de d'indiquer si je
ne suis pas au bon endroit ou je pourrais poser ma question.




Salut

Et en mettant le chemin absolu vers pdflatex ?

Patrick


J'ai effectivement fait le test. Pensant a un problème avec la variable 
d’environnement PATH. Mais, ce n'est pas cela.

Installation

[Christophe M]

Bonjour

Je voudrais savoir qu'elle version de Debian je peux installer sur un Asus
Z53J, car après plusieurs essais la vidéo est correcte au départ mais quand
l'installation et fini je ne vois que des traits sur l'écran. Je pense que
c'est un pb du driver pour ma vidéo.

Dans l'attente  cordialement

Re: exec et php

[Eric Degenetais]

> A la fin du fichier j'ai:
>
>  " [106]=> string(75) "[1{/var/lib/texmf/fonts/map/pdftex/updmap/pdftex.map} 
> <../../images/3.png>]" [107]=> string(28) "(./test.aux) )" [108]=> string(52) 
> "(see the transcript file for additional information)" [109]=> string(79)

"!pdfTeX error: /usr/bin/pdflatex (file tcti1200): Font tcti1200 at
600 not foun" [110]=> string(1) "d" [111]=> string(55) " ==> Fatal
error occurred, no output PDF file produced!"

 }

Il dit pourquoi il plante: il ne trouve pas la font qu'il est censé
utiliser. Donc la question est: comment pdflatex trouve-t'il ses font
(ce que j'ignore) et en quoi est-ce que ça peut être différent pour le
processus apache?
__
Éric Dégenètais
Henix

http://www.henix.com
http://www.squashtest.org

Llista administrable?

[Narcis Garcia]

A veure si és possible que algú elimini aquesta adreça de la llista, i
així no rebem els demés el missatge d'error que no existeix:

golf2...@hotmail.com

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I'm using this express-made address because personal addresses aren't
masked enough at lists.debian.org archives.

Archivos Translation de los repos

[Fabián Bonetti]

Mi repositorio > http://repo.mamalibre.com.ar/Readme.txt

Andaba bien mi repo hasta hoy que un colega con una distro-híbrida intento usar 
el synaptic.

Ahí me di cuenta que tuve que actualizar mi repositorio...

Hasta ahí todo bien.


Pero... me esta pidiendo estos archivos

Translation-es_AR.gz

Translation-es.gz

Translation-en.gz


No doy como generar sos archivos en el repositorio.

Se que son de texto plano

Package: paquete1
Description-md5: 
Description-es: 

Package: paquete12
Description-md5: 
Description-es: aqui la 2da descripcion

contenido en Translation-es.2.bz2

he generado el archivo en blanco, y luego comprimirlo para si ver si me sigue 
saliendo este error

W: Fallo al obtener 
gzip:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/mamalibre.no-ip.org_dists_karmic_main_i18n_Translation-es%5fAR.gz
  Formato inválido de fichero

W: Fallo al obtener 
gzip:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/mamalibre.no-ip.org_dists_karmic_main_i18n_Translation-es.gz
  Formato inválido de fichero

W: Fallo al obtener 
gzip:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/mamalibre.no-ip.org_dists_karmic_main_i18n_Translation-en.gz
  Formato inválido de fichero


Pero sale de nuevo.

-- 
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MamaLibre, Casa en Lincoln, Ituzaingo 1085 CP6070, Buenos Aires, Argentina


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