Re: OT: signatures (was Re: removing TexLive Docs packages)

2015-12-25 Thread Adam Wilson
On Thu, 24 Dec 2015 10:38:28 -0500, Anthony Mapes
 wrote:

> (Are there email clients out there that don't display who the sender
> was?)

If such a mail client exists, its users should not be forgiven.



Re: Etckeeper for more than /etc

2015-12-25 Thread Udyant Wig
Some ideas here:

https://joeyh.name/svnhome/
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Re: Perl Transition

2015-12-25 Thread kamaraju kusumanchi
On Thu, Dec 24, 2015 at 5:26 AM, David Baron  wrote:
> Is this done, ready to play?
>

https://release.debian.org/transitions/ shows the progress on
transitions. It says Perl transition to 5.22 is 98% complete.

hope that helps
raju
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Etckeeper for more than /etc

2015-12-25 Thread ray
I would like to version control my /home directories.  This is on a jessie 
workstation where I am the only user.  I have setup multiple users accounts for 
comparing and testing.  As a new user, I break the system a lot.  As such, I 
have rebuilt my two computers often due to my inability to recover.  Being able 
to identify changes and roll them back would be great.  

While Etckeeper keeps metadata for /etc, it may be sufficient for a standard 
git version control on other directories.

I would appreciate any examples, models, recommendations along this line.

Ray



Re: systemd-modules-load inserting modules I didn't ask it to insert

2015-12-25 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach martin f krafft  [2015-12-26 09:14 +1300]:
>   systemd-modules-load[136]: Inserted module 'ipmi_devintf'
>   systemd-modules-load[136]: Inserted module 'ipmi_poweroff'
>   systemd-modules-load[136]: Failed to insert 'ipmi_si': No such device
>   systemd-modules-load[136]: Inserted module 'ipmi_watchdog'

These are due to /usr/lib/modules-load.d/ipmievd.conf. It's likely
a documentation bug in modules-load.d(5) that this source directory
isn't listed.

http://bugs.debian.org/808997

Thanks Andreas and Felipe for your tireless help on IRC.

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Re: systemd-modules-load inserting modules I didn't ask it to insert

2015-12-25 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2015-12-26 09:14 +1300, martin f krafft wrote:

> Hello, and happy holidays to all of you.

Happy holidays from me as well.

> I found several of my systems to report this:
>
>   systemd-modules-load[136]: Inserted module 'ipmi_devintf'
>   systemd-modules-load[136]: Inserted module 'ipmi_poweroff'
>   systemd-modules-load[136]: Failed to insert 'ipmi_si': No such device
>   systemd-modules-load[136]: Inserted module 'ipmi_watchdog'
>
> and consequently, the systems appear degraded, e.g.:
>
>   root@domine:/home/madduck# systemctl --state=failed
> UNIT LOAD   ACTIVE SUBDESCRIPTION
>   ● systemd-modules-load.service loaded failed failed Load Kernel Modules
>
> Looking at the manpage(s), the list of (static) modules to load
> comes from (a) the kernel command line, and (b) the
> modules-load.d/*.conf files in /lib, /run, and /etc.
>
> However, on none of my systems are any of the IPMI modules
> specified:
>
>   # grep ipmi /proc/cmdline /*/modules-load.d/*.conf /etc/modules 
> /etc/initramfs-tools/modules || echo none found
>   none found

You forgot /usr/lib/modules-load.d/*.conf.

> So, where is systemd getting the idea from that it ought to load
> these modules?

Apparently from /usr/lib/modules-load.d/ipmievd.conf shipped in Jessie's
ipmitool package: https://bugs.debian.org/766418.

Cheers,
   Sven



systemd-modules-load inserting modules I didn't ask it to insert

2015-12-25 Thread martin f krafft
Hello, and happy holidays to all of you.

I found several of my systems to report this:

  systemd-modules-load[136]: Inserted module 'ipmi_devintf'
  systemd-modules-load[136]: Inserted module 'ipmi_poweroff'
  systemd-modules-load[136]: Failed to insert 'ipmi_si': No such device
  systemd-modules-load[136]: Inserted module 'ipmi_watchdog'

and consequently, the systems appear degraded, e.g.:

  root@domine:/home/madduck# systemctl --state=failed
UNIT LOAD   ACTIVE SUBDESCRIPTION
  ● systemd-modules-load.service loaded failed failed Load Kernel Modules

Looking at the manpage(s), the list of (static) modules to load
comes from (a) the kernel command line, and (b) the
modules-load.d/*.conf files in /lib, /run, and /etc.

However, on none of my systems are any of the IPMI modules
specified:

  # grep ipmi /proc/cmdline /*/modules-load.d/*.conf /etc/modules 
/etc/initramfs-tools/modules || echo none found
  none found

So, where is systemd getting the idea from that it ought to load
these modules?

Thanks for any insights!

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Re: random reboots of my Lenovo ThinkPad (3.16.7-ckt20-1+deb8u1) (kernel stack trace)

2015-12-25 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Fri, 25 Dec 2015, Staszek wrote:

> On 2015-12-24 15:07, Sven Arvidsson wrote:
> > Try disabling nouveau, both in the kernel and the xorg driver, and
> > see if the crashes stop.
> 
> Ok, but what other driver shall I use instead?
> 
> According to ThinkPad Wiki nv driver works:
> http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/NVIDIA_Quadro_NVS_140M . Unfortunately
> it is not present in Jessie:
> https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=xserver-xorg-video-nv ??..

Have you tried the proprietary nVidia drivers?  I was having
intermittent problems with noveau on my Wheezy system, and installed
nVidia's. Been working great since. Simple install.  Just followed the
instructions.

B



Re: Attempt to Move Root

2015-12-25 Thread Stephen Powell
On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 14:44:31 -0500 (EST), Sven Hartge wrote:
> 
> In ye olde days (pre-Windowsm 98) some programs (I think Photoshop did
> it.) wrote licence data into that space, because it was unused. The copy
> protection scheme of some games also tried to hide information there.
> 

I can think of some other cases.  Back in the day when most BIOSes had
a head limit of 16, thus limiting the size of a hard disk addressable via
BIOS Int 13h functions 02h and 03h to 504MiB, programs such as Ontrack
Disk Manager could be installed to circumvent this restriction.  They
would hook the BIOS to increase the head limit to 255.  I believe this
was accomplished by putting the BIOS hook program in the boot sector
and moving the original boot sector to the second sector (CHS value
0:0:2).

Also, in the days of IBM 386 microchannel machines, such as the IBM
PS/2 model 70, IBM sold a memory board that initialized after POST
by using a similar boot hook.

Around that same time period, Novell Netware was known to also use an
unallocated sector, perhaps for licensing, copy protection, etc.
These schemes all conflicted with each other of course.  As I say in
my lilo web page, there are no rules for the use of unallocated sectors.

And grub-legacy and grub-pc (by default at least) now do a similar thing.
They store information in unallocated sectors.  That's one of the
reasons (but not the only reason) that I switched back to LILO.

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Re: Debian on Dell XPS 15

2015-12-25 Thread Brandon Vincent
On Thu, Dec 24, 2015 at 10:30 PM, Dwijesh Gajadur  wrote:
> Has anyone ever used Debian on Dell XPS 15 laptop? Please share your
> experience.

Based on some quick research of the available configurations, it would
be wise to purchase the model with the Intel Dual Band Wireless-AC
7260 wireless card rather than the Dell Wireless 1560 which uses a
Broadcom chipset. Otherwise with a little BIOS/UEFI tweaking, the XPS
15 seems like it would handle most GNU/Linux distributions.

Brandon Vincent



Re: Attempt to Move Root

2015-12-25 Thread Stephen Powell
On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 10:57:41 -0500 (EST), Nicolas George wrote:
> 
> What you write is slightly inaccurate. The core of your inaccuracy is this:
> LILO does not use the BIOS to read FILES, but SECTORS. How to map files to
> sectors is entirely LILO's problem.

That depends on your point of view.  To lilo's map installer (the lilo command
that runs at a Linux shell prompt) they are files.  The LILO boot loader
itself reads an ordered list of sectors created for it by the map installer.
But it is still a file.  If what you mean is that the LILO boot loader,
at boot time, cannot determine which sectors to read based on examining
the file system structures, then yes, that is true.
> 
> IIRC, the mapping is computed when (re)installing LILO on the boot-sector
> and hard-coded in the boot-sector itself, with one level of indirection (the
> map file). After a quick glance at the sources, it uses the FIBMAP ioctl and
> various others to ask the kernel the blocks used by a file and converts to
> sectors. At the same time, I noticed that LILO seems to be actually capable
> of finding the sectors for files on LVM.

In the general case, the sectors of a file on an LVM2 logical volume may
reside on multiple physical partitions on multiple physical disks.  But if
all of those disks are addressable via the BIOS, and all of the sectors
are accessible via the BIOS, then it may be theoretically possible for LILO
to read the map file, the kernel image file, and the initial RAM file system
image file from an LVM2 logical volume at boot time.  I guess I was making
an implicit assumption that they would all have to be on the same physical
device.  But maybe that's not true.  I'll have to look into that.
>
> I have not read this thread carefully, so maybe it has already been
> addressed, but all this suggest that the OP should install GRUB instead of
> LILO and be done with that kind of trouble.

As subsequent posts have indicated, the trouble was with an incorrect UUID.
It had nothing to do with the OP's choice of boot loader.
 
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Re: Debian on Dell XPS 15

2015-12-25 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Fri, 2015-12-25 at 09:30 +0400, Dwijesh Gajadur wrote:
> Hi everyone..I am going to get a new Dell XPS 15 laptop. I want to
> know if
> I will be able to install and use Debian on it properly without
> getting any
> issues.
> 
> Has anyone ever used Debian on Dell XPS 15 laptop? Please share your
> experience.

From what I can tell from the first matches on Google, such as this
one, it should work okay.
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:BNfeJ5FP3-AJ:https://www.fussylogic.co.uk/blog/%3Fp%3D1276+&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

(site was down so cached link)

You might want to use testing or unstable for better support, but you
can always try stable first and upgrade later.

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Re: random reboots of my Lenovo ThinkPad (3.16.7-ckt20-1+deb8u1) (kernel stack trace)

2015-12-25 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Fri, 2015-12-25 at 03:16 +0100, Staszek wrote:
> On 2015-12-24 15:07, Sven Arvidsson wrote:
> > Try disabling nouveau, both in the kernel and the xorg driver, and
> > see
> > if the crashes stop.
> 
> Ok, but what other driver shall I use instead?

The vesa driver would probably be easiest to get up and running. 

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Re: Dovecot Problems?

2015-12-25 Thread tomas
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On Thu, Dec 24, 2015 at 02:53:58PM +0200, David Baron wrote:
> I can no longer log on to my IMAP server from my Android. I can do so from 
> kmail but even the URL is translated to localhost. Using k-9 mail on the 
> android.
> 
> I have dovecot listening to *,:: (both ivp4 and ivp6)
> I have tried with and without ssl,tls, neither works
> 
> I am not sure when it stopped working, dovecot upgrades or new router. The 
> desktop ufw is set to allow all out and 143 in for all the combinations.
> 
> The router's port forwarding is set up the same way.
> 
> Should work.
> What else do I need?

Perhaps stating the obvious, but have you had a look at the dovecot logs?
Can you spot your android's login attempts?

regards
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