Re: Ext2 per ordinadors antics

[Narcis Garcia]

El criteri de «temps menyspreable» es podria aplicar a un munt de
detalls que, tots junts, fan guanyar agilitat a un ordinador antic.
La mida de la bitàcola/journaling no és tant preocupant com la velocitat.

Fer comprovacions «de laboratori» en això és molt complicat, ja que, per
posar un exemple tonto:
1. L'usuari ordena desar un document
2. El nucli utilitza la bitàcola/journaling i torna el control (més aviat?).
3. L'usuari ordena la càrrega d'una altra aplicació
4. El nucli triga més perquè carrega l'aplicació i allibera la bitàcola
alhora.

Entenc que, en utilitzar bitàcola del sistema de fitxers, les dades
s'escriuen a disc dues vegades, i en discs antics i lents això no és
trivial. Aquesta suposició o enteniment el tinc també per les memòries
USB lentes o ports USB lents, a l'hora de triar entre Ext2 i Ext4.

Al Ext3 no li conec especial avantatge respecte Ext4 a efectes de
rendiment, és més, el fsck és espectacularment més ràpid en Ext4.



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El 21/02/16 a les 20:46, Alex Muntada ha escrit:
> Narcis Garcia:
> 
>> Voldria recollir opinions sobre la meva suposició de què s'estalvia
>> temps de procés i ús de disc formatant en el sistema de fitxers «ext2»
>> en comptes de «ext4».
> 
> El meu consell és que no suposis res i facis proves per confirmar
> les hipòtesis que et plantegis.
> 
> Els nuclis més moderns pot ser que assumeixin que el maquinari és
> més modern i per tant facin algunes assumpcions i optimitzacions
> que perjudiquin el maquinari més antic. De fet, a Debian fins fa
> pocs mesos es compilava tot el codi amb suport per a i486 i ara a
> sid ja es compila tot amb suport per a i586. Una forma de veure
> quin codi genera el compilaror és fent «gcc -v».
> 
> Sobre l'ús del disc que podries estalviar amb ext2 respecte
> ext3, crec que hauria de ser menyspreable perquè el journaling
> no acostuma a ocupar gaire:
> 
> ```
> $ dd if=/dev/zero of=filesystem bs=1M count=1024
> $ /sbin/mkfs.ext2 filesystem; /sbin/tune2fs -l filesystem | grep Free
> ...
> Creating filesystem with 262144 4k blocks and 65536 inodes
> ...
> Free blocks:  257701
> Free inodes:  65525
> $ /sbin/mkfs.ext3 filesystem; /sbin/tune2fs -l filesystem | grep Free
> ...
> Creating filesystem with 262144 4k blocks and 65536 inodes
> ...
> Creating journal (8192 blocks): done
> ...
> Free blocks:  249500
> Free inodes:  65525
> $ /sbin/mkfs.ext4 filesystem; /sbin/tune2fs -l filesystem | grep Free
> ...
> Creating filesystem with 262144 4k blocks and 65536 inodes
> ...
> Creating journal (8192 blocks): done
> ...
> Free blocks:  249509
> Free inodes:  65525
> ```
> 
> Una altra forma d'alliberar espai per als usuaris es reduir la
> reserva per defecte del 5% d'ocupació a un valor més baix amb
> el tune2fs (això és especialment interessant en discos grans).
> 
> Salut,
> Alex
> 

Re: Cannot install Mono Develop on Debian

[Peter Ludikovsky]

Hello,

Does it work using the standard way for Debian?
# apt-get install monodevelop

Since with the first way you already verified it's in the
repositories, why go the proprietary way of things, instead of using
the power of Linux distributions?

Regards
/peter

Am 21.02.2016 um 20:49 schrieb johny jj2:
> Hello,
> 
> I cannot install Mono Develop on Debian.
> 
> * First way
> 
> Package downloaded from here 
> (https://packages.debian.org/jessie/all/monodevelop/download) does
> not work because of this error:
> 
> Cannot install 'libglade2.0-cil'.
> 
> The details (Lintian output) were as follows:
> 
> W: monodevelop: debian-news-entry-has-unknown-version 0.18.1-1 E:
> monodevelop: debian-copyright-file-uses-obsolete-national-encoding
> at line 23 W: monodevelop: manpage-has-errors-from-man 
> usr/share/man/man1/mdtool.1.gz 104: warning: macro `/'' not
> defined E: monodevelop: menu-icon-not-in-xpm-format 
> usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/apps/monodevelop.svg W:
> monodevelop: script-not-executable 
> usr/lib/monodevelop/AddIns/MonoDevelop.Autotools/templates/autogen.sh.template
>
> 
W: monodevelop: script-not-executable
> usr/lib/monodevelop/AddIns/MonoDevelop.Autotools/templates/configure.template
>
> 
W: monodevelop: script-not-executable
> usr/lib/monodevelop/AddIns/MonoDevelop.Autotools/templates/exe.wrapper.in.template
>
> 
W: monodevelop: executable-not-elf-or-script
> usr/lib/monodevelop/AddIns/MonoDevelop.XmlEditor/schemas/appconfig.xsd
>
> 
W: monodevelop: executable-not-elf-or-script
> usr/lib/monodevelop/AddIns/MonoDevelop.XmlEditor/schemas/XMLSchema.xsd
>
> 
W: monodevelop: executable-not-elf-or-script
> usr/lib/monodevelop/AddIns/MonoDevelop.XmlEditor/schemas/W3C-License.html
>
> 
W: monodevelop: executable-not-elf-or-script
> usr/lib/monodevelop/AddIns/MonoDevelop.XmlEditor/schemas/xslt.xsd 
> W: monodevelop: executable-not-elf-or-script 
> usr/lib/monodevelop/AddIns/MonoDevelop.XmlEditor/schemas/nant.xsd 
> W: monodevelop: executable-not-elf-or-script 
> usr/lib/monodevelop/AddIns/MonoDevelop.AspNet/Schemas/readme.txt W:
> monodevelop: executable-not-elf-or-script 
> usr/lib/monodevelop/AddIns/MonoDevelop.XmlEditor/schemas/manifest.xsd
>
> 
W: monodevelop: executable-not-elf-or-script
> usr/lib/monodevelop/AddIns/MonoDevelop.XmlEditor/schemas/readme.txt
>
> 
W: monodevelop: executable-not-elf-or-script
> usr/lib/monodevelop/AddIns/MonoDevelop.AspNet/Schemas/W3C-License.html
>
>  Lintian finished with exit status 1
> 
> * Second way
> 
> These three commands 
> (http://www.mono-project.com/docs/getting-started/install/linux/#debian-ubuntu-and-derivatives)
>
> 
worked so my package repository was updated. But then thing described in
> 'Usage' section did not:
> 
> root@myusername:~# sudo apt-get install mono-devel Reading package
> lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information...
> Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you
> have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the
> unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been
> created or been moved out of Incoming. The following information
> may help to resolve the situation:
> 
> The following packages have unmet dependencies: mono-devel :
> Depends: libgdiplus (>= 2.6.7) but it is not going to be installed 
> Depends: libmono-system-design4.0-cil (>= 1.0) but it is not going
> to be installed Depends: libmono-system-drawing4.0-cil (>= 3.0.6)
> but it is not going to be installed Depends:
> libmono-system-messaging4.0-cil (>= 2.10.1) but it is not going to
> be installed Depends: libmono-system-runtime4.0-cil (>= 2.10.1) but
> it is not going to be installed Depends:
> libmono-system-servicemodel-activation4.0-cil (>= 1.0) but it is
> not going to be installed Depends:
> libmono-system-servicemodel-web4.0-cil (>= 3.2.1) but it is not
> going to be installed Depends: libmono-system-servicemodel4.0a-cil
> (>= 3.2.3) but it is not going to be installed Depends:
> libmono-system-web-extensions4.0-cil (>= 2.10.3) but it is not
> going to be installed Depends: libmono-system-web-services4.0-cil
> (>= 1.0) but it is not going to be installed Depends:
> libmono-system-web4.0-cil (>= 2.10.3) but it is not going to be
> installed Depends: libmono-system-windows-forms4.0-cil (>= 1.0)
> but it is not going to be installed Depends: libmono-cil-dev (=
> 4.2.2.30-0xamarin2) but it is not going to be installed E: Unable
> to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
> 
> Similar thing for the second package in 'Usage'.
> 
> How to install Mono Develop (for C# development of Android apps)
> on Debian Linux?
> 
> Thank you!



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Re: I need help

[David Wright]

On Sat 20 Feb 2016 at 03:34:43 (+1300), Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 09:09:54PM -0600, David Wright wrote:
> > On Wed 17 Feb 2016 at 18:09:03 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote:
> > > Did you notice I said PAPER tap, not magnetic ;>
> > 
> > Sorry about the typo; my fingers have had a decade of typing 9-track
> > (for magnetic) since their decade of typing 8-track (for punched
> > paper) tape.
> 
> I'm fairly sure there were 8 track cartridges which you could play in
> your car, a few years ago now though.

This was mainly in the US I believe. (I'm surprised they could
withstand the temperatures in cars.) The UK tended towards cassettes.
In any case, not something I would have written or typed about.

Cheers,
David.

Is it possible to fully reinstall the base system without affecting /home?

[Kynn Jones]

My system is badly damaged, and it looks like the only way to fix it
is to do a full re-install.

I figure I will have to back everything up to an external drive,
reformat the hard drive, and install everything from scratch.

But I thought I'd ask if there's anything close to this that would not
require backing up everything and reformatting the hard disk.
Wouldn't it be possible, for example, to boot the system up from a
live CD, and reinstall the base system, leaving /home untouched?  (I
should mention that the hard disk in question is just one big
partition, including /home and everything else.)

Thanks in advance!

kj

Re: odd internal mail failure

[Harry Putnam]

David Wright  writes:

> The obvious candidate is /etc/mailname which I don't see
> any reference to your changing.

/etc/mailname appears to be the culprit ... thanks.

Re: Help! System crashes and locks up.

[Patrick Bartek]

On Sun, 21 Feb 2016, Dennis Wicks wrote:

> Greetings;
> 
> I have a system I just put together. New pwr sup, mobo, and 
> 1 new SATA disk, 1TB. 2Gig memory. Processor is a Phenom 
> 9950 4 core. Running Deb 8.3.0 Jessie, new install.
> 
> Every so often it crashes and locks up, and the monitor 
> screen has many narrow horizontal lines, mostly the 
> background color.
> 
> When it crashes only reset and power off will work. I have 
> looked in every log file I can think of and no luck.
> 
> Does this sound familiar to anybody? Any hints?
> 
> Any help at all greatly appreciated!!

These kinds of intermittent problems are hard to trace.  Last time it
happened to me, it took me 6 months to find the problem.  Hinky CPU.
Replaced it and the system ran for years 24/7 without problems.

First, run a checksum on the Debian ISO file you used, then if you
burned it to CD or thumb drive, checksum that, too, to eliminated any
error there.

Check voltages off the power supply, and check all wires and plugs.

Check motherboard for anything that looks "wrong.'  Both sides. 

Remove and reseat all cards and RAM.

Do a memory check.  Let it run overnight.

Check your CPU cooler is properly installed and the CPU is not running
hot, etc.  Ditto for your graphics card.

Use the system and see if the problem reoccurs.  If it does, give more
details about what was happening prior to the failure.

B



 

Re: Debian package on Windows

[John Hasler]

Thiego writes:
> I don't like the idea of Debian allowing the restrictions.

I don't know what you mean by that.  It's Free Software.  They can do
with it what the license terms permit and no more absent special
permission from the copyright owner.  The authors released it under the
GPL and that's that.  Debian, not owning the copyright, is not able to
allow or forbid anything.

Debian or some members thereof might or might not choose to assist in
the endeavor, but that's a different matter.
-- 
John Hasler 
jhas...@newsguy.com
Elmwood, WI USA

Re : Partions chiffrées, comment passer de Wheezy à Jessie.

[merkedanke]

tout dépend de votre  choix :

souhaitez-vous quelque chose pour vous sortir d'embarras ?
une réinstall propre sur la nouvelle version est préférable et de 
loin...copiez vos data [beaucoups m'ont conseillé le cloud comme 
alternative , c'est long !] (en clair bien sûr et hors connection) sur 
un support (desktop/usb/install intermédiaire sur n'importe quel linux 
etc.) puis installez la 8 et déposez-y vos data où vous voulez.



souhaitez-vous quelque chose pour conserver l'intégrité et l'intégralité 
de vos volumes chiffrés par la migration ?
pour moi, c'est du break/bidouillage et je n'aime pas ; je vais donc 
laissez d'autres vous répondre.

Re: Debian package on Windows

[Thiago]

So strongly to: new DRMs are NOT needed. Free Software is a permissive
license, the GPL is not the problem. Who is accustomed managing the
restrictions on computers & softwares that's really bad.

I don't like the idea of Debian allowing the restrictions. Free Software
is about ethics to the copyright. Knowledge, owned, must not be
knowledge restricted. Sharing is helpful. Education is respectful. Helps
when people adopts academic behavior to quote the authors.


Em 21-02-2016 18:37, Gary Dale escreveu:
> I don't see why you object so strongly to the idea of porting apt-get to
> Windows. The idea may be a little crazy in that Windows programs don't
> install the same way or use the same libraries but there are lots of
> other programs that run on Linux and Windows without provoking a hostile
> response. So long as it continues to use the GPL, I don't have see the
> issue.
> 
> If it helps them write more portable software, I'd say go for it.
> 
> 
> 
> On 20/02/16 09:21 PM, Thiago wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> Why did you send this message on Debian Apache and not in the main
>> mailing list? I'm sorry, but you're not able to own GNU GPL to suck in
>> your Application Manager. Either you will be educated mentioning it and
>> respecting his copyright.
>>
>> I don't know why do you do it. Maybe you thought in new things to do.
>> Congrats for using Clang instead of GNU C Compiler, at least you're
>> trying don't using it to don't need mentioning him. But Debian is signed
>> in GPG too.
>>
>> And of course, taking apt-get/Debian and implementing new DRMs to avoid
>> GNU. History is same the even. Or would be Microsoft don't mistreating
>> who shares the packing management? Are you trying to take it and kick
>> that out of new hardwares?
>>
>> Reply us.
>>
>> Att.
>>
>>
>> Em 19-02-2016 23:09, Eric Mittelette escreveu:
>>> Hi
>>>
>>>  
>>> I contact you today about a crazy idea, but I hope it is a right kind of
>>> crazy!
>>>
>>>  
>>> I’m PM in the Visual C++ Team (VC Lib to be precise here at Microsoft),
>>> we started to think about lib acquisition (still a painful process for
>>> C++ on Windows) and we are imaging different options, one is to port
>>> apt-get on Windows.
>>>
>>> Porting Apt-Get mean using Debian format (we love it) and providing
>>> Windows binary inside the package…
>>>
>>>  
>>> For doing that we imagine a light way process to adapt your actual build
>>> script to generate Windows binaries using our latest Clang/c2 compiler
>>> integration (meaning in theory just changing an env variable to switch
>>> from gcc or Clang to our Clang/C2 compiler will be enough…)
>>>
>>>  
>>> The main idea here is to not reinvent the wheel for packaging management
>>> and use something existing, powerful and well known by the community.
>>>
>>> Of course all the project will be open source (the new Microsoft J)
>>>
>>>  
>>> I know you’re really busy, and don’t want to boring you, but I wanted to
>>> know your feedback about this idea?
>>>
>>> Do you want to be included in future discussions and provide feedback as
>>> we get more details fleshed out?
>>>
>>>  
>>> Again it is just a draft idea, nothing concrete, but wanted to validate
>>> with you and the Debian maintainers community if that make sense for
>>> you…
>>>
>>>  
>>> Thanks for your time
>>>
>>>  
>>> Eric Mittelette
>>>
>>> Senior Program Manager – Visual C++ (VCLib)
>>>
>>> ericm...@microsoft.com 
>>>
>>>  
>>>  
> 



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Re: Help! System crashes and locks up.

[Brandon Vincent]

On Sun, Feb 21, 2016 at 5:44 PM, David Christensen
 wrote:
> I've experienced RAM that passed for a hour or two, but generated a few
> errors over 24 hours.  So, now I run it for 24 hours if I'm suspicious.

Should have explained my entire logic with this process.

I've seen RAM fail with Memtest86+ after three days! I find that the
quickest way to diagnose an issue is to run a few passes of Memtest86+
and if that checks out (no extremely serious memory issues) then run a
couple hours of LINPACK or mprime. If you have a memory issue LINPACK
or mprime will show it very quickly.

If all of the above checks out, I'd get a copy of your hard drive
manufacturer's diagnostic utility and check the drive.

Brandon Vincent

Re: Help! System crashes and locks up.

[David Christensen]

On 02/21/2016 04:29 PM, Brandon Vincent wrote:

Sounds like a hardware problem of some sort. First thing I would do it
check the RAM. Download Memtest86+ (for the latest version) and boot
from the CD or USB device. See if it completes a few passes without
error.


+1/2.


I've experienced RAM that passed for a hour or two, but generated a few 
errors over 24 hours.  So, now I run it for 24 hours if I'm suspicious.



Note that there are two versions:

commercial -- http://www.memtest86.com/

FOSS -- http://www.memtest.org/


David

Re: Help! System crashes and locks up.

[Brandon Vincent]

On Sun, Feb 21, 2016 at 5:12 PM, Dennis Wicks  wrote:
> Does this sound familiar to anybody? Any hints?

Sounds like a hardware problem of some sort. First thing I would do it
check the RAM. Download Memtest86+ (for the latest version) and boot
from the CD or USB device. See if it completes a few passes without
error.

Brandon Vincent

Help! System crashes and locks up.

[Dennis Wicks]

Greetings;

I have a system I just put together. New pwr sup, mobo, and 
1 new SATA disk, 1TB. 2Gig memory. Processor is a Phenom 
9950 4 core. Running Deb 8.3.0 Jessie, new install.


Every so often it crashes and locks up, and the monitor 
screen has many narrow horizontal lines, mostly the 
background color.


When it crashes only reset and power off will work. I have 
looked in every log file I can think of and no luck.


Does this sound familiar to anybody? Any hints?

Any help at all greatly appreciated!!

TNX,
Dennis

Option "MigrationHeuristic" is not documented by Nvidia

[Juan R. de Silva]

In stable Jessie I'm currently using 340.96-1 driver for my Nvidia 
K2100M. 

I'm having some issues with the card, mostly quite notable latency, while 
working with Gedit or LibreOffice Write. While looking for options to 
improve the performance I found that google is full with suggestions to 
include in xorg.conf among some others this line: 

Option "MigrationHeuristic" greedy

Actually it is advised on the Debian Nvidia Wiki page as well. However, I 
see that such option is not listed in the X Config Options doc on Nvidia 
web side. It looks like it simply does not exist. When I included it in  
xorg.conf, my system log displayed "NVIDIA(0): Option "MigrationHeuristic" 
is not used."

Could somebody explain, what this option means  and how to enable it, if 
it exists? Or it is just another copy-paste ghost that lives on internet 
its own live without any connection to reality?

Another thing - I'm considering to install Nvidia version 352.79 (via 
jessie-backports) instead of my current driver. 

- Anybody used it on stable? Is it stable? Any improvements vs. 340.96-1?
- Should I first remove my current driver and then install the new one 
from backports? Or I can just shoot 'apt-get install -t jessie-backports 
nvidia-driver', and apt-get would take care of replacing the current 
driver with the new one?

Thanks.

Re: Ext2 per ordinadors antics

[Roger Sicart]

Bones Àlex,

No sóc expert en el tema, però més o menys em referia al mateix en quant al
temps de processament per part del kernel.
He partit del principi que al no haver de gestionar un fitxer
de journaling, el kernel tindria més temps per fer altres coses, ja que
s'estalviaria escriptures.
Ara, com tu comentes, el preu que s'ha de pagar és l'integritat de les
dades, per exemple en el cas d'un tall de corrent. A l'arrencada del
sistema, per reparar les inconsitències s'hauria de recórrer tot el sistema
de fitxers, cosa que podria ser força lenta...
En qualsevol cas el millor és experimentar.

Bona nit i salut.
Roger

On Sunday, 21 February 2016, Alex Muntada  wrote:

> Narcis Garcia:
>
> > Voldria recollir opinions sobre la meva suposició de què s'estalvia
> > temps de procés i ús de disc formatant en el sistema de fitxers «ext2»
> > en comptes de «ext4».
>
> El meu consell és que no suposis res i facis proves per confirmar
> les hipòtesis que et plantegis.
>
> Els nuclis més moderns pot ser que assumeixin que el maquinari és
> més modern i per tant facin algunes assumpcions i optimitzacions
> que perjudiquin el maquinari més antic. De fet, a Debian fins fa
> pocs mesos es compilava tot el codi amb suport per a i486 i ara a
> sid ja es compila tot amb suport per a i586. Una forma de veure
> quin codi genera el compilaror és fent «gcc -v».
>
> Sobre l'ús del disc que podries estalviar amb ext2 respecte
> ext3, crec que hauria de ser menyspreable perquè el journaling
> no acostuma a ocupar gaire:
>
> ```
> $ dd if=/dev/zero of=filesystem bs=1M count=1024
> $ /sbin/mkfs.ext2 filesystem; /sbin/tune2fs -l filesystem | grep Free
> ...
> Creating filesystem with 262144 4k blocks and 65536 inodes
> ...
> Free blocks:  257701
> Free inodes:  65525
> $ /sbin/mkfs.ext3 filesystem; /sbin/tune2fs -l filesystem | grep Free
> ...
> Creating filesystem with 262144 4k blocks and 65536 inodes
> ...
> Creating journal (8192 blocks): done
> ...
> Free blocks:  249500
> Free inodes:  65525
> $ /sbin/mkfs.ext4 filesystem; /sbin/tune2fs -l filesystem | grep Free
> ...
> Creating filesystem with 262144 4k blocks and 65536 inodes
> ...
> Creating journal (8192 blocks): done
> ...
> Free blocks:  249509
> Free inodes:  65525
> ```
>
> Una altra forma d'alliberar espai per als usuaris es reduir la
> reserva per defecte del 5% d'ocupació a un valor més baix amb
> el tune2fs (això és especialment interessant en discos grans).
>
> Salut,
> Alex
>
>

-- 
--

R. Sicart

Re: nytimes pages that fail in iceweasel [SOLVED]

[Andrew McGlashan]

On 22/02/2016 2:02 AM, Adam Wilson wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 22:59:26 + Lisi Reisz 
> wrote:
> And how is password-protection incompatible with free software
> principles anyway?

It's not /really/ free if it needs me to login to access the resources.

A.

Re: [OT] Servicio tcp socket

[Maykel Franco]

El día 20 de febrero de 2016, 15:25, Camaleón  escribió:
> El Fri, 19 Feb 2016 22:58:57 +0100, Maykel Franco escribió:
>
>> Bueno la verdad es que no sé muy bien qué asunto poner... Les cuento
>> lo que necesito hacer para una determinada persona que me pide algo
>> del siglo X ... Manejo de sockets tcp
>>
>> La idea es la siguiente, necesita que le habilite un servicio via tcp
>> socket para que lance una conexión desde un cliente a ese puerto y yo
>> automáticamente, mediante esa conexión le envie un archivo csv...
>
> Qué ganas de complicarse la vida :-)
>
> https://www.google.com/webhp?complete=0=en_rd=cr,ssl#complete=0=en=linux+sockets+sending+files
>
>> Ya sé que diréis usa ssh, ftp, http, webdav... Y que se conecte el
>> cliente, se autentifique y coja el archivo pero el caso es que esa
>> persona no quiera otra cosa más que trabajar con sockets tcp... A mi
>> no se me ocurre otra cosa que hacerlo programáticamente, por ejemplo
>> con C. O en su defecto me viene a la cabeza xinetd...Con xinetd podría
>> abrir un socket a un determinado puerto y hacer un script en bash por
>> ejemplo, para que cuando el cliente lance la conexión a un determinado
>> puerto definido por mí, yo usando esa conexión le envíe el archivo...
>>
>> Alguien ha tenido que hacer algo similar o alguien me puede ayudar?
>>
>> Gracias de antemano.
>
> Puedes intentarlo con xinetd, aquí tienes un ejemplo:
>
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/13519933/executing-script-on-receiving-incoming-connection-with-xinetd
>
> Otra opción sería usando netcat (nc), échale un ojo.
>
> Saludos,
>
> --
> Camaleón
>

Gracias a todos por las respuestas.

La verdad no me querría complicar en programarlo, si netcat me vale
sería la opción perfecta. He visto esto:

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/12267905/how-to-send-a-file-using-netcat-and-then-keep-the-connection-alive

Entiendo que esto podría valerme:

Server side:

nc -k -l 1 < my_in_file

Client side:

echo "bye" | netcat 192.168.1.6 1 > my_in_file -

Pero en los ejemplos que veo es el cliente quien envía... Lo que
necesito es que sera el propio servidor el que tiene el puerto abierto
y el que sirve el fichero a el cliente.

Re: Debian package on Windows

[Andrew M.A. Cater]

On Sun, Feb 21, 2016 at 04:37:27PM -0500, Gary Dale wrote:
> I don't see why you object so strongly to the idea of porting apt-get to
> Windows. The idea may be a little crazy in that Windows programs don't
> install the same way or use the same libraries but there are lots of other
> programs that run on Linux and Windows without provoking a hostile response.
> So long as it continues to use the GPL, I don't have see the issue.
> 
> If it helps them write more portable software, I'd say go for it.
> 

As the person who helped name APT and apt-get all those years ago: this is 
slightly missing the point.

There is a sort-of, near enough apt-get clone from the VSS group - it's called 
Nu-get - there's One-get
and Chocolatey.

All of these miss the fact that it's tight dependency management, well 
documented packaging strategies
and an attempted consistent approach across many years that has got Debian to 
this point.
Policy, practice, package-shaming, enforcement of API / ABI where feasible, 
declaring flag days for major 
changes - oh, and testing over months and years. Toolsets, culture, learned 
development habits - all takes
time.

Now Eric is coming along - with, potentially, the best of intentions and a 
polite approach. Microsoft look
to be abandoning Codeplex for Github and, if they're just starting to changeC 
compilers, for example, there's
a whole new learning curve. 

It might be nice to assume that one isolated Microsoft employee is not, 
immediately, a messenger of malice and
to answer questions with respect.

Rebuilding even one Microsoft product to take advantage of 20 years of someone 
else's good practice is, at the very least
a non-trivial problem.

You're right, though, it might be better aimed at the debian-devel or 
debian-mentors lists.

AndyC

> 
> 
> On 20/02/16 09:21 PM, Thiago wrote:
> >Hello,
> >
> >Why did you send this message on Debian Apache and not in the main
> >mailing list? I'm sorry, but you're not able to own GNU GPL to suck in
> >your Application Manager. Either you will be educated mentioning it and
> >respecting his copyright.
> >
> >I don't know why do you do it. Maybe you thought in new things to do.
> >Congrats for using Clang instead of GNU C Compiler, at least you're
> >trying don't using it to don't need mentioning him. But Debian is signed
> >in GPG too.
> >
> >And of course, taking apt-get/Debian and implementing new DRMs to avoid
> >GNU. History is same the even. Or would be Microsoft don't mistreating
> >who shares the packing management? Are you trying to take it and kick
> >that out of new hardwares?
> >
> >Reply us.
> >
> >Att.
> >
> >
> >Em 19-02-2016 23:09, Eric Mittelette escreveu:
> >>Hi
> >>
> >>
> >>I contact you today about a crazy idea, but I hope it is a right kind of
> >>crazy!
> >>
> >>
> >>I’m PM in the Visual C++ Team (VC Lib to be precise here at Microsoft),
> >>we started to think about lib acquisition (still a painful process for
> >>C++ on Windows) and we are imaging different options, one is to port
> >>apt-get on Windows.
> >>
> >>Porting Apt-Get mean using Debian format (we love it) and providing
> >>Windows binary inside the package…
> >>
> >>
> >>For doing that we imagine a light way process to adapt your actual build
> >>script to generate Windows binaries using our latest Clang/c2 compiler
> >>integration (meaning in theory just changing an env variable to switch
> >>from gcc or Clang to our Clang/C2 compiler will be enough…)
> >>
> >>
> >>The main idea here is to not reinvent the wheel for packaging management
> >>and use something existing, powerful and well known by the community.
> >>
> >>Of course all the project will be open source (the new Microsoft J)
> >>
> >>
> >>I know you’re really busy, and don’t want to boring you, but I wanted to
> >>know your feedback about this idea?
> >>
> >>Do you want to be included in future discussions and provide feedback as
> >>we get more details fleshed out?
> >>
> >>
> >>Again it is just a draft idea, nothing concrete, but wanted to validate
> >>with you and the Debian maintainers community if that make sense for you…
> >>
> >>
> >>Thanks for your time
> >>
> >>
> >>Eric Mittelette
> >>
> >>Senior Program Manager – Visual C++ (VCLib)
> >>
> >>ericm...@microsoft.com 
> >>
> >>
> >>

[OT] Backups CrashPlan Debian sin entorno gráfico

[Maykel Franco]

Buenas, estoy tratando de configurar CrashPlan en casa para probarlo.
Tengo un servidor Debian, tipico NAS en casa, tengo bastantes TB ya
ocupados y me gustaría hacer una copia fuera... He visto alternativas
y me ha gustado bastante CrashPlan. Mi idea es hacer backups en una
carpeta en el servidor y que está se sincronice con los servidores de
CrashPlan.

Mi duda viene porque veo que para configurar la cuenta hace falta un
entorno gráfico y levantar la aplicación para configurarlo...Sabéis si
es posible configurarlo usando la terminal, lo que es lo mismo
configurando archivos de configuración? Para introducir el email,
password...

Otra opción sería configurarlo con entorno gráfico y luego copiarme
los archivos de configuración...

Error de GPG

[OJEDA David]

Hola a todos tengo una situacion que no pude resolver por actualizacion
de Keyrings. Esta consulta que hubo
(https://lists.debian.org/debian-user-spanish/2014/11/msg00080.html) es
identica solo que varia el repositorio: http://ftp.ccc.uba.ar
wheezy-updates Release.
¿Que espejo es el correcto en este caso y como puedo reemplazarlo? lei
sobre utilizar "nano" pero las opciones finales de guardado me superan.
 Mi Sources List es simple ya que soy un usuario aprendiz todavia:

# deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 7 _Wheezy_ - Official Snapshot amd64
LIVE/INSTALL Binary 20150114-03:51]/ wheezy main

deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 7 _Wheezy_ - Official Snapshot amd64
LIVE/INSTALL Binary 20150114-03:51]/ wheezy main

deb http://ftp.ccc.uba.ar/pub/linux/debian/debian/ wheezy main
deb-src http://ftp.ccc.uba.ar/pub/linux/debian/debian/ wheezy main

deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main

# wheezy-updates, previously known as 'volatile'
deb http://ftp.ccc.uba.ar/pub/linux/debian/debian/ wheezy-updates main
deb-src http://ftp.ccc.uba.ar/pub/linux/debian/debian/ wheezy-updates main

Muchas gracias por la atencion.

Re: Upgraded squeeze-lts server to wheezy -- client exim4 connections over tls give segfault

[Andrew McGlashan]

Hi,

On 22/02/2016 5:25 AM, deloptes wrote:
> Andrew McGlashan wrote:
> what is the mail server on this system? It should have one - perhaps also
> exim

It is exim4 as per the packages list.

I fixed this by regenerating the certificate, that's all it was.

Right now it is using my own self signed CA and certs from that.

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Re: (OT?) Någon som känner till någon "smartphone" med Debian eller åtminstone Linux?

[OpenLifeChallenge]

Finns en del proprietärt i SailfishOS om det är något du helst inte vill
ha. Se t.ex.
https://together.jolla.com/question/80676/request-fully-open-source-sailfish-os/

Det närmaste jag skulle säga att du kan komma en Debian-installation
idag är en Samsung Galaxy S3 med fullt fri Replicant-distribution
http://www.replicant.us/.

Sedan installera "Lil' Debi" för tajt integration av valfi variant av
Debian till din Android.
https://f-droid.org/repository/browse/?fdid=info.guardianproject.lildebi

Har inte testat själv men borde fungera bra om en har tid och intresse.

/O

On 2016-02-21 22:24, Johan Thelin wrote:
> Annars finns ju Sailfish OS från Jolla. Inte Debian, men ändå fri Linux.
>
> Sedan ska man ju inte glömma att Android är Linux. Det handlar väl mest om
> att roota och sedan installera rätt saker (och undvika rätt saker) för att
> kunna använda en Androidlur som linuxsystem.
>
> MVH
>
> Johan
> On Feb 21, 2016 22:20, "Per Andersson"  wrote:
>
>> 2016-02-20 21:39 GMT+01:00  :
>>> Min halvsmarta telefon dog drunkningsdöden i veckan så jag behöver en
>>> ny telefon och skulle gärna se att det var Debian i den. Det får gärna
>>> kosta.
>> Det närmsta du kommer med modern hårdvara är nog Ubuntu Phone.
>>
>> Annars fanns ju Nokia N900, som du säkert kan köpa begagnad, men
>> den är rätt daterad programvarumässigt.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Per
>>
>>

Re: Debian package on Windows

[Gary Dale]

I don't see why you object so strongly to the idea of porting apt-get to 
Windows. The idea may be a little crazy in that Windows programs don't 
install the same way or use the same libraries but there are lots of 
other programs that run on Linux and Windows without provoking a hostile 
response. So long as it continues to use the GPL, I don't have see the 
issue.


If it helps them write more portable software, I'd say go for it.



On 20/02/16 09:21 PM, Thiago wrote:

Hello,

Why did you send this message on Debian Apache and not in the main
mailing list? I'm sorry, but you're not able to own GNU GPL to suck in
your Application Manager. Either you will be educated mentioning it and
respecting his copyright.

I don't know why do you do it. Maybe you thought in new things to do.
Congrats for using Clang instead of GNU C Compiler, at least you're
trying don't using it to don't need mentioning him. But Debian is signed
in GPG too.

And of course, taking apt-get/Debian and implementing new DRMs to avoid
GNU. History is same the even. Or would be Microsoft don't mistreating
who shares the packing management? Are you trying to take it and kick
that out of new hardwares?

Reply us.

Att.


Em 19-02-2016 23:09, Eric Mittelette escreveu:

Hi

  


I contact you today about a crazy idea, but I hope it is a right kind of
crazy!

  


I’m PM in the Visual C++ Team (VC Lib to be precise here at Microsoft),
we started to think about lib acquisition (still a painful process for
C++ on Windows) and we are imaging different options, one is to port
apt-get on Windows.

Porting Apt-Get mean using Debian format (we love it) and providing
Windows binary inside the package…

  


For doing that we imagine a light way process to adapt your actual build
script to generate Windows binaries using our latest Clang/c2 compiler
integration (meaning in theory just changing an env variable to switch
from gcc or Clang to our Clang/C2 compiler will be enough…)

  


The main idea here is to not reinvent the wheel for packaging management
and use something existing, powerful and well known by the community.

Of course all the project will be open source (the new Microsoft J)

  


I know you’re really busy, and don’t want to boring you, but I wanted to
know your feedback about this idea?

Do you want to be included in future discussions and provide feedback as
we get more details fleshed out?

  


Again it is just a draft idea, nothing concrete, but wanted to validate
with you and the Debian maintainers community if that make sense for you…

  


Thanks for your time

  


Eric Mittelette

Senior Program Manager – Visual C++ (VCLib)

ericm...@microsoft.com 

  

  

Partions chiffrées, comment passer de Wheezy à Jessie.

[Randy11]

Bonjour,

J'ai deux partitions LVM chiffrées : "home" et "swap", sur ma Wheezy et 
je voudrais

passer en Jessie.

Il existe bien une aide pour migrer : 
https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading.fr.html, 
mais je voudrais repartir de quelque chose de
propre - ma Wheezy m'a servie a expérimenter trop de choses. Et rien ne 
mentionne

l'utilisation de partition chiffrées.

L'installateur, même en mode expert, ne propose rien (ou je n'ai pas 
compris comment
le faire) pour réutiliser des partitions déjà chiffrées avec des 
données. L'installateur
après avoir sélectionner les partitions à utiliser en chiffré, demande 
la création de

la passphrase.

Alors, quelqu'un peut-il me guider sur la migration de Wheezy à Jessie pour
conserver mes deux partitions LVM chiffrées "home" et "swap" ?

Merci beaucoup.

Randy11

Re: (OT?) Någon som känner till någon "smartphone" med Debian eller åtminstone Linux?

[Johan Thelin]

Annars finns ju Sailfish OS från Jolla. Inte Debian, men ändå fri Linux.

Sedan ska man ju inte glömma att Android är Linux. Det handlar väl mest om
att roota och sedan installera rätt saker (och undvika rätt saker) för att
kunna använda en Androidlur som linuxsystem.

MVH

Johan
On Feb 21, 2016 22:20, "Per Andersson"  wrote:

> 2016-02-20 21:39 GMT+01:00  :
> > Min halvsmarta telefon dog drunkningsdöden i veckan så jag behöver en
> > ny telefon och skulle gärna se att det var Debian i den. Det får gärna
> > kosta.
>
> Det närmsta du kommer med modern hårdvara är nog Ubuntu Phone.
>
> Annars fanns ju Nokia N900, som du säkert kan köpa begagnad, men
> den är rätt daterad programvarumässigt.
>
>
> --
> Per
>
>

Re: [Noticia] ¿Vuelve Firefox a Debian?

[Javier Barroso]

Buenas noches,

2016-02-21 16:55 GMT+01:00 Camaleón :
> El Sat, 20 Feb 2016 15:45:38 +0100, Javi Barroso escribió:
>
>> Buenas calurosas tardes,
>>
>> El 20 de febrero de 2016 15:36:47 CET, "Camaleón" 
>> escribió:
>>>El Fri, 19 Feb 2016 19:23:45 +0100, Javier Silva escribió:
>
> (...)
>
 Y sí, voy a encontrar a faltar el logotipo de Iceweasel, ya me gusta
>>>más
 que el de FF, aunque al principio me resultó un tanto extraño.
>>>
>>>Bueno, eso tiene fácil arreglo al menos para los accesos directos:
>>>guarda el PNG y lo cambias después :-)
>> Creo que dpkg-divert sería lo ideal para eso, o montarlo vía ~/.config
>
> ¿Dices para mantener el icono? Sería matar moscas a cañonazos ¿no? :-)

¿Por qué? Si se quiere seguir usando apt-get y que no se modifiquen
los iconos personalizados es la solución que se da en debian

# cp firefox.png /usr/share/icons/hicolor/64x64/apps/iceweasel.png
#  dpkg-divert  --divert
/usr/share/icons/hicolor/64x64/apps/iceweasel.png.package
/usr/share/icons/hicolor/64x64/apps/iceweasel.png

Para cada icono en /usr/share/icons/*/*/iceweasel.png, habría que
hacer el dpkg-divert, una vez que los iconos sean los que queremos

Saludos

Re: odd internal mail failure

[David Wright]

On Sun 21 Feb 2016 at 14:27:01 (-0500), Harry Putnam wrote:
> On a recently installed jessie OS I've found an odd situation
> happing with the internal mail.
> 
> root is getting a message from root.  At least that is what appears in
> >From and To.
> 
> However the message is showing up in users directory as a file named `$'.
> Here is the header:
> 
> From r...@d.local.lan Sun Feb 21 07:35:07 2016
> Return-path: 
> Envelope-to: r...@d.local.lan

That's a lot of domainname; do you need it? I don't.

> Delivery-date: Sun, 21 Feb 2016 07:35:07 -0500
> Received: from root by d2.local.lan with local (Exim 4.84)
>(envelope-from )
>id 1aXTEB-0008C5-5J
>for r...@d.local.lan; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 07:35:07 -0500
> Subject: exim paniclog on d2.local.lan has non-zero size
> To: r...@d.local.lan
> Message-Id: 
> From: root 
> Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2016 07:35:07 -0500
> 
> As you see the hostname is shown as "d" and in fact that was the hosts
> name up until several days ago so, several days ago the host was
> renamed to d2.
> 
> You can also see the correct host name appears in the "Received" header.
> So the old name must be stored somewhere and getting used on the mail.

The obvious candidate is /etc/mailname which I don't see
any reference to your changing.

> The name change was done by editing /etc/hostname to the new name
> editing /etc/hosts to the new name
> and at the command line with # hostname d2.
> 
> And yes, I have verified that both are correctly edited.
> 
> The host has been rebooted several times since that was done.
> You can see in the header the date is today.
> 
> This is not the only message I deleted one inadvertently whan I
> saw the Dollar sign as file name the first time.
> 
> I've never gotten a filename of "$" before. And haven't noticed any
> hosts having trouble knowning there name before.
> 
> Where would the original host name be coming from?

>From my aide-mémoire:

Files under /etc/ with domainname:

.git/logs/  hostname too (from etckeeper?)
hosts   several hostnames too
mailnamehostname too
ssl/certs/java/cacerts  hostname too

Files under /var/lib/ with domainname:

dhcp/dhclient.eth0.leases   file looks stale (2½ years old)
wicd/resolv.conf.orig   router's IP address too

Files under /etc/ with hostname:

.etckeeper  any files I create get archived
.git/description
.git/logs/...   domainname too (from etckeeper?)
emacs23/site-start.d/00debian-vars.elc  compiled (delete and recreate?)
fstab   hostname (comment and mount point)
hostname
hosts   domainname too
mailnamedomainname too
ssh/... and in other hosts' key stores
ssl/certs/java/cacerts  domainname too
sudoers.d/...
wicd/wired-settings.confdhcphostname
wicd/wireless-settings.conf dhcphostname (in each stanza)

Files under /var/lib/ with hostname:
wicd/dhclient.conf

Files under /etc/ with IP address:

hosts
network/interfaces-...  ptp configuration
networkslocalnet only
resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/original   default nameserver
apt/apt.conf
wicd/wired-settings.confrouter would expect wireless interface 
alone to give it its normal IP address

Files under /var/lib/ with IP address:
wicd/resolv.conf.orig   domainname too

There's probably cruft in there because the file was started in the
20th century back when my machines had routable addresses and
domainnames mattered.

(I'm not attempting to explain the $.)

Cheers,
David.

Re: [OT] Re: intentando apturar trafico

[juan carlos Rebate]

El día 21 de febrero de 2016, 17:09, fernando sainz
 escribió:
> El día 21 de febrero de 2016, 16:49, Maykel Franco
>  escribió:
>>
>> El 21 feb. 2016 4:41 p. m., "Camaleón"  escribió:
>>>
>>> El Sat, 20 Feb 2016 20:48:15 +0100, juan carlos Rebate escribió:
>>>
>>> > El día 19 de febrero de 2016, 17:46, Camaleón 
>>> > escribió:
>>>
>>> (...)
>>>
>>> >> Para configurar wireshark o tcpdump (capturar y analizar el tráfico de
>>> >> la red) recuerdo que había que seguir unas pautas, como poner la
>>> >> tarjeta en modo promiscuo y usar un hub en lugar de un switch (o uno
>>> >> con un puerto de "monitorización" específico)... en fin, revisa los
>>> >> puntos que indican en la guía de cómo realizar una captura para
>>> >> comprobar que en tu caso se cumplen todos los requisitos:
>>> >>
>>> >> How To Set Up a Capture https://wiki.wireshark.org/CaptureSetup
>>> >>
>>> >> En cuanto al problema del enrutado propiamente dicho tendrías que dar
>>> >> más datos de la configuración de la red y qué componentes de hardware
>>> >> entran en juego.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> > mira camaleon no se si lo haces por fastidiar o que pero deja ya de
>>> > responder si no tienes idea de lo que se pregunta ok?,
>>>
>>> (...)
>>>
>>> Ah, que no quieres que te ayude. ¡Pues dilo, hombre! Si es muy sencillo,
>>> si no quieres que te responda indícalo en el correo que yo no tengo
>>> manías.
>>>
>>> P.S. A la lista negra que te vas, digo, para no responderte más :-)
>>
>> +1
>>
>
> Te doy la razón uno mas en la lista negra uno menos al que responde,
> un poquito menos de ruido en la lista.
> (Por otra parte este tipo de mensajes "+1" creo que ya he comentado en
> alguna ocasión, que al no aportar nada a la lista, mejor evitarlos).
>
> He dicho muchas veces que me parece de mala educación filtrar a los
> miembros de la lista porque eso genera que se responda dando la misma
> respuesta que ya han dado otros compañeros, ruido al final.
>
> Cada cual es muy libre de filtrar lo que quiera, pero lo de presumir
> de ello, es lo que nos da una idea de la  personalidad de algunos.
>
> S2.
>
no es necesario usar nada de eso, creo seguis sin entender, haciendo
pruebs veo que instalando xplico y tsark en debian no captura, pero
siguiendo los mismos pasos de instalacion en ubuntu si captura, pero
captura solo su propio trafico, lo que deseo es que la eth1 actue como
gateway, no necesito switch ya que estos no van conectados por cable,
me explico, solo un ordenador de 4 esta conectado por cable, este que
esta por cable es el que debe actuar como gateway, se supone que
configurando la eth1 sin puerta de enlace, con direccion estatica y
desviando el trafico de la eth1 a la eth2 funcionaria (debe funcionar)
el ruteo ya esta habilitado, ahora el ordenador que necesito pasar por
ese gateway apunta a esa direccion pero no resuelve, esto en
powershell de windows es super facil pero no lo hago por no tener que
meter el php en el iis

Cannot install Mono Develop on Debian

[johny jj2]

Hello,

I cannot install Mono Develop on Debian.

* First way

Package downloaded from here (
https://packages.debian.org/jessie/all/monodevelop/download) does not work
because of this error:

Cannot install 'libglade2.0-cil'.

The details (Lintian output) were as follows:

W: monodevelop: debian-news-entry-has-unknown-version 0.18.1-1
E: monodevelop: debian-copyright-file-uses-obsolete-national-encoding at
line 23
W: monodevelop: manpage-has-errors-from-man usr/share/man/man1/mdtool.1.gz
104: warning: macro `/'' not defined
E: monodevelop: menu-icon-not-in-xpm-format
usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/apps/monodevelop.svg
W: monodevelop: script-not-executable
usr/lib/monodevelop/AddIns/MonoDevelop.Autotools/templates/autogen.sh.template
W: monodevelop: script-not-executable
usr/lib/monodevelop/AddIns/MonoDevelop.Autotools/templates/configure.template
W: monodevelop: script-not-executable
usr/lib/monodevelop/AddIns/MonoDevelop.Autotools/templates/exe.wrapper.in.template
W: monodevelop: executable-not-elf-or-script
usr/lib/monodevelop/AddIns/MonoDevelop.XmlEditor/schemas/appconfig.xsd
W: monodevelop: executable-not-elf-or-script
usr/lib/monodevelop/AddIns/MonoDevelop.XmlEditor/schemas/XMLSchema.xsd
W: monodevelop: executable-not-elf-or-script
usr/lib/monodevelop/AddIns/MonoDevelop.XmlEditor/schemas/W3C-License.html
W: monodevelop: executable-not-elf-or-script
usr/lib/monodevelop/AddIns/MonoDevelop.XmlEditor/schemas/xslt.xsd
W: monodevelop: executable-not-elf-or-script
usr/lib/monodevelop/AddIns/MonoDevelop.XmlEditor/schemas/nant.xsd
W: monodevelop: executable-not-elf-or-script
usr/lib/monodevelop/AddIns/MonoDevelop.AspNet/Schemas/readme.txt
W: monodevelop: executable-not-elf-or-script
usr/lib/monodevelop/AddIns/MonoDevelop.XmlEditor/schemas/manifest.xsd
W: monodevelop: executable-not-elf-or-script
usr/lib/monodevelop/AddIns/MonoDevelop.XmlEditor/schemas/readme.txt
W: monodevelop: executable-not-elf-or-script
usr/lib/monodevelop/AddIns/MonoDevelop.AspNet/Schemas/W3C-License.html

Lintian finished with exit status 1

* Second way

These three commands (
http://www.mono-project.com/docs/getting-started/install/linux/#debian-ubuntu-and-derivatives)
worked so my package repository was updated. But then thing described in
'Usage' section did not:

root@myusername:~# sudo apt-get install mono-devel
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 mono-devel : Depends: libgdiplus (>= 2.6.7) but it is not going to be
installed
  Depends: libmono-system-design4.0-cil (>= 1.0) but it is not
going to be installed
  Depends: libmono-system-drawing4.0-cil (>= 3.0.6) but it is
not going to be installed
  Depends: libmono-system-messaging4.0-cil (>= 2.10.1) but it
is not going to be installed
  Depends: libmono-system-runtime4.0-cil (>= 2.10.1) but it is
not going to be installed
  Depends: libmono-system-servicemodel-activation4.0-cil (>=
1.0) but it is not going to be installed
  Depends: libmono-system-servicemodel-web4.0-cil (>= 3.2.1)
but it is not going to be installed
  Depends: libmono-system-servicemodel4.0a-cil (>= 3.2.3) but
it is not going to be installed
  Depends: libmono-system-web-extensions4.0-cil (>= 2.10.3) but
it is not going to be installed
  Depends: libmono-system-web-services4.0-cil (>= 1.0) but it
is not going to be installed
  Depends: libmono-system-web4.0-cil (>= 2.10.3) but it is not
going to be installed
  Depends: libmono-system-windows-forms4.0-cil (>= 1.0) but it
is not going to be installed
  Depends: libmono-cil-dev (= 4.2.2.30-0xamarin2) but it is not
going to be installed
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.

Similar thing for the second package in 'Usage'.

How to install Mono Develop (for C# development of Android apps) on Debian
Linux?

Thank you!

odd internal mail failure

[Harry Putnam]

On a recently installed jessie OS I've found an odd situation
happing with the internal mail.

root is getting a message from root.  At least that is what appears in
>From and To.

However the message is showing up in users directory as a file named `$'.
Here is the header:

From r...@d.local.lan Sun Feb 21 07:35:07 2016
Return-path: 
Envelope-to: r...@d.local.lan
Delivery-date: Sun, 21 Feb 2016 07:35:07 -0500
Received: from root by d2.local.lan with local (Exim 4.84)
   (envelope-from )
   id 1aXTEB-0008C5-5J
   for r...@d.local.lan; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 07:35:07 -0500
Subject: exim paniclog on d2.local.lan has non-zero size
To: r...@d.local.lan
Message-Id: 
From: root 
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2016 07:35:07 -0500

As you see the hostname is shown as "d" and in fact that was the hosts
name up until several days ago so, several days ago the host was
renamed to d2.

You can also see the correct host name appears in the "Received" header.
So the old name must be stored somewhere and getting used on the mail.

The name change was done by editing /etc/hostname to the new name
editing /etc/hosts to the new name
and at the command line with # hostname d2.

And yes, I have verified that both are correctly edited.

The host has been rebooted several times since that was done.
You can see in the header the date is today.

This is not the only message I deleted one inadvertently whan I
saw the Dollar sign as file name the first time.

I've never gotten a filename of "$" before. And haven't noticed any
hosts having trouble knowning there name before.

Where would the original host name be coming from?

Re: Setting up HDRI in ImageMagick

[Gary Roach]

On 02/19/2016 12:35 PM, Thomas Schmitt wrote:

Hi,

i tried my proposal on Jessie. After

   ./configure --enable-hdri

i see

 Options used to compile and link:
...
CPPFLAGS=   -DMAGICKCORE_HDRI_ENABLE=1 
-DMAGICKCORE_QUANTUM_DEPTH=16

while "make" it reports lines like

CC   magick/magick_libMagickCore_6_Q16HDRI_la-histogram.lo

I then run (without "make install"):

   ./utilities/identify | fgrep Features

and get

   Features: Cipher DPC HDRI OpenMP

-

What do you get from the not yet installed binary ?

   ImageMagick-6.9.3-4/utilities/identify


Have a nice day :)

Thomas


My question now is: is it possible to use HDRI with the standard debian 
imagemagick installation. Do I have to resort to a source code install 
to get that capability.


Gary R.

Re: Debian security: need recipe for blocking root ssh access AND all ssh password access

[Dominique Dumont]

On Wednesday 17 February 2016 14:24:02 Darac Marjal wrote:
> >2. after initial setup, no ssh access will be allowed via a password
> 
> $ echo "PasswordAuthentication No" | sudo tee -a /etc/ssh/sshd_config

That's a bad idea: You may end up with 2 PasswordAuthentication entries in 
sshd_config. That's very confusing for the sys admin (been there, done that).

A safer command is :

$ sudo cme modify sshd 'PasswordAuthentication=no'

(requires cme and libconfig-model-openssh-perl packages)

HTH
-- 
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http://ddumont.wordpress.com/  -o-   irc: dod at irc.debian.org

Re: rotating screen in debian tablet

[Sven Arvidsson]

On Sun, 2016-02-21 at 18:49 +0100, jdd wrote:
> forgot to say I can connect to the tablet with ssh, so I can see the 
> logs, but with no clue (for me)

Xorg logs should be in /var/log/Xorg.0.log in jessie. you can post it
here if you need help understanding it.

If KMS doesn't work at all, it might be that jessie is just too old to
support that hardware. but that's just another guess.

I also suggest that you document your efforts on getting Debian to run
here: https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/

Both the stuff that works, and the stuff that doesn't.

-- 
Cheers,
Sven Arvidsson
http://www.whiz.se
PGP Key ID 6FAB5CD5

Re: rotating screen in debian tablet

[Felix Miata]

jdd composed on 2016-02-21 18:46 (UTC+0100):

>> Can you double check that you're really running the Xorg intel driver
>> and isn't getting fbdev or something similar?

> don't know, because it do not start with the default grub config. I have 
> to add nomodeset or i915.modeset=0 to have a display, including console

Intel driver for Xorg, same as radeon and nouveau, absolutely depends on
keeping KMS enabled. those startup parameters are for proprietary NVidia
users, and users satisfied with the crippled functionality of fbdev and vesa
drivers (IOW, troubleshooting/temporary boots).
-- 
"The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant
words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)

 Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!

Felix Miata  ***  http://fm.no-ip.com/

Re: Upgraded squeeze-lts server to wheezy -- client exim4 connections over tls give segfault

[deloptes]

Andrew McGlashan wrote:

> I can't find anything that seems to be significant except for the linux
> kernel version.

the error is not likely to be related to the kernel version

> 
> NB: A simpler VM on the same Xen server has been running Wheezy for quite
> a while, but it isn't a mail server.

what is the mail server on this system? It should have one - perhaps also
exim

> 
> Any ideas, futher tests?

1. gdb on swaks and backtrace or provide backtrace from the logs if
available
2. check for left over (old) libraries from wheezy
3. double check exim configuration
4. double check you have all libraries in the proper version.

I am not using xen, and not sure if this is related

I hope this helps

regards

Re: rotating screen in debian tablet

[jdd]

forgot to say I can connect to the tablet with ssh, so I can see the 
logs, but with no clue (for me)


jdd

Re: rotating screen in debian tablet

[jdd]

Le 21/02/2016 18:37, Sven Arvidsson a écrit :


Can you double check that you're really running the Xorg intel driver
and isn't getting fbdev or something similar?


don't know, because it do not start with the default grub config. I have 
to add nomodeset or i915.modeset=0 to have a display, including console


with

fbcon=rotate:1

in the grub linux line, I have finally a *terminal only* landscape 
oriented screen (with target multi-users in systemd).


BUT

the boot menu is still portrait

if I run startxfce4, it comes with portrait orientation.

jdd

Re: Convite para encontro via IRC para tradução do Debian

[Adriano Rafael Gomes]

On Sun, Feb 21, 2016 at 01:26:30PM -0400, Rodolfo wrote:
> Não achei dizendo qual fuso horário, moro no Amazonas, logo, meu
> horário é diferente da maior parte do Brasil.

Rodolfo, será às 15:00 UTC-3.

$ date -d @1456077600


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Re: Convite para encontro via IRC para tradução do Debian

[Fred Maranhão]

Em 21 de fevereiro de 2016 14:26, Rodolfo  escreveu:
> Não achei dizendo qual fuso horário, moro no Amazonas, logo, meu horário é
> diferente da maior parte do Brasil. Mas obrigado e desculpem qualquer coisa.

fuso horário de brasília

>
> Em 20 de fevereiro de 2016 06:50, Adriano Rafael Gomes
>  escreveu:
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 03:57:34AM -0400, Rodolfo wrote:
>> > Que local Adriano ?
>>
>> Bom dia, Rodolfo e lista.
>>
>> Por favor, veja o convite original que foi postado na lista de
>> tradução:
>> https://lists.debian.org/debian-l10n-portuguese/2016/02/msg00106.html
>
>

Re: rotating screen in debian tablet

[Sven Arvidsson]

On Sun, 2016-02-21 at 11:00 +0100, jdd wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I try to install debian jessie on a windows 10 It Works TW891 tablet 
> (with attached keyboard)
> 
> using the hybrid 32/64 bits dvd, I could install jessie with xfce.
> 
> But... it's installed in portrait mode (the screen need to be seen
> with 
> the longer size vertical), when the keyboard expect a lanscape mode,
> so 
> it's really unfriendly :-).
> 
> I could make the *initial terminal* (text mode), to display in the
> right 
> position, adding to the grub2 kernel line:
> 
> vga=791
> fbcon=rotate:1
> video=efifb
> nomodeset
> 
> may be one of these options is not right, but I couldn't test all.
> not 
> the question here, probably.
> 
> but as soon as X takes over, the screen fallback to portrait.
> 
> xfce panel do not have any option other than "normal" for
> orientation.
> 
> video is intel vga (no other detail)
> 
> xrandr --output default --rotate left
> 
> fails with "cannot use rotation left"
> 
> I could add a mode 1280x800 following
> 
> http://dodin.info/wiki/pmwiki.php?n=Doc.AddXResolution
> 
> but with "configure crtc 0 failed"
> 
> any hint?
> 
> thanks
> jdd


Can you double check that you're really running the Xorg intel driver
and isn't getting fbdev or something similar?

From what I can tell the rotate commands should work on other Bay Trail
tablets running Linux, but with your manual framebuffer configuration
I'm unsure if KMS and the intel driver would work?

-- 
Cheers,
Sven Arvidsson
http://www.whiz.se
PGP Key ID 6FAB5CD5



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Re: nytimes pages that fail in iceweasel

[Patrick Bartek]

On Sun, 21 Feb 2016, Steve Kleene wrote:

> On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 19:12:15 -0800, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> 
> > What I'd like to know is how iceweasel broke on the OP's system in
> > the first place. I did a standard install of the browser on my
> > 64-bit Wheezy system years ago, installed Flash, etc., and it
> > works.  Maybe, it's because I don't use or have installed any
> > desktop. Just use a window manager, Openbox.
> 
> I'm the OP.  I don't know when the feature got turned off, but I also
> use just a windowing system (fvwm).  I also wasn't using Tor.

Just an isolated event then.  No one else seems to have it.  Guess
we'll never really know the cause.  At least, iceweasel is working
correctly now.

B

Re: Convite para encontro via IRC para tradução do Debian

[Rodolfo]

Não achei dizendo qual fuso horário, moro no Amazonas, logo, meu horário é
diferente da maior parte do Brasil. Mas obrigado e desculpem qualquer coisa.

Em 20 de fevereiro de 2016 06:50, Adriano Rafael Gomes  escreveu:

> On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 03:57:34AM -0400, Rodolfo wrote:
> > Que local Adriano ?
>
> Bom dia, Rodolfo e lista.
>
> Por favor, veja o convite original que foi postado na lista de
> tradução:
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-l10n-portuguese/2016/02/msg00106.html
>

Re: [OT] Re: intentando apturar trafico

[fernando sainz]

El día 21 de febrero de 2016, 16:49, Maykel Franco
 escribió:
>
> El 21 feb. 2016 4:41 p. m., "Camaleón"  escribió:
>>
>> El Sat, 20 Feb 2016 20:48:15 +0100, juan carlos Rebate escribió:
>>
>> > El día 19 de febrero de 2016, 17:46, Camaleón 
>> > escribió:
>>
>> (...)
>>
>> >> Para configurar wireshark o tcpdump (capturar y analizar el tráfico de
>> >> la red) recuerdo que había que seguir unas pautas, como poner la
>> >> tarjeta en modo promiscuo y usar un hub en lugar de un switch (o uno
>> >> con un puerto de "monitorización" específico)... en fin, revisa los
>> >> puntos que indican en la guía de cómo realizar una captura para
>> >> comprobar que en tu caso se cumplen todos los requisitos:
>> >>
>> >> How To Set Up a Capture https://wiki.wireshark.org/CaptureSetup
>> >>
>> >> En cuanto al problema del enrutado propiamente dicho tendrías que dar
>> >> más datos de la configuración de la red y qué componentes de hardware
>> >> entran en juego.
>> >>
>> >>
>> > mira camaleon no se si lo haces por fastidiar o que pero deja ya de
>> > responder si no tienes idea de lo que se pregunta ok?,
>>
>> (...)
>>
>> Ah, que no quieres que te ayude. ¡Pues dilo, hombre! Si es muy sencillo,
>> si no quieres que te responda indícalo en el correo que yo no tengo
>> manías.
>>
>> P.S. A la lista negra que te vas, digo, para no responderte más :-)
>
> +1
>

Te doy la razón uno mas en la lista negra uno menos al que responde,
un poquito menos de ruido en la lista.
(Por otra parte este tipo de mensajes "+1" creo que ya he comentado en
alguna ocasión, que al no aportar nada a la lista, mejor evitarlos).

He dicho muchas veces que me parece de mala educación filtrar a los
miembros de la lista porque eso genera que se responda dando la misma
respuesta que ya han dado otros compañeros, ruido al final.

Cada cual es muy libre de filtrar lo que quiera, pero lo de presumir
de ello, es lo que nos da una idea de la  personalidad de algunos.

S2.

Re: [Noticia] ¿Vuelve Firefox a Debian?

[Camaleón]

El Sat, 20 Feb 2016 15:45:38 +0100, Javi Barroso escribió:

> Buenas calurosas tardes,
> 
> El 20 de febrero de 2016 15:36:47 CET, "Camaleón" 
> escribió:
>>El Fri, 19 Feb 2016 19:23:45 +0100, Javier Silva escribió:

(...)

>>> Y sí, voy a encontrar a faltar el logotipo de Iceweasel, ya me gusta
>>más
>>> que el de FF, aunque al principio me resultó un tanto extraño.
>>
>>Bueno, eso tiene fácil arreglo al menos para los accesos directos:
>>guarda el PNG y lo cambias después :-)
> Creo que dpkg-divert sería lo ideal para eso, o montarlo vía ~/.config

¿Dices para mantener el icono? Sería matar moscas a cañonazos ¿no? :-) 

Habría que ver si el paquete binario que vayan a crear (firefox-esr) 
sigue llamando al icono genérico ("/usr/share/iceweasel/browser/chrome/
icons/default/defaultXX.png") o apunta al propio ("/usr/share/icons/
hicolor/NxN/iceweasel.png") para que la "diversión" pudiera funcionar 
aunque veo que en ambos casos cambiaría algo: bien la ruta "/usr/share/
firefox-esr" o bien el nombre del archivo "/usr/share/icons/hicolor/NxN/
firefox.png".

Saludos,

-- 
Camaleón

Re: [OT] Re: intentando apturar trafico

[Maykel Franco]

El 21 feb. 2016 4:41 p. m., "Camaleón"  escribió:
>
> El Sat, 20 Feb 2016 20:48:15 +0100, juan carlos Rebate escribió:
>
> > El día 19 de febrero de 2016, 17:46, Camaleón 
> > escribió:
>
> (...)
>
> >> Para configurar wireshark o tcpdump (capturar y analizar el tráfico de
> >> la red) recuerdo que había que seguir unas pautas, como poner la
> >> tarjeta en modo promiscuo y usar un hub en lugar de un switch (o uno
> >> con un puerto de "monitorización" específico)... en fin, revisa los
> >> puntos que indican en la guía de cómo realizar una captura para
> >> comprobar que en tu caso se cumplen todos los requisitos:
> >>
> >> How To Set Up a Capture https://wiki.wireshark.org/CaptureSetup
> >>
> >> En cuanto al problema del enrutado propiamente dicho tendrías que dar
> >> más datos de la configuración de la red y qué componentes de hardware
> >> entran en juego.
> >>
> >>
> > mira camaleon no se si lo haces por fastidiar o que pero deja ya de
> > responder si no tienes idea de lo que se pregunta ok?,
>
> (...)
>
> Ah, que no quieres que te ayude. ¡Pues dilo, hombre! Si es muy sencillo,
> si no quieres que te responda indícalo en el correo que yo no tengo
> manías.
>
> P.S. A la lista negra que te vas, digo, para no responderte más :-)

+1

>
> Saludos,
>
> --
> Camaleón
>

Re: [OT] Re: intentando apturar trafico

[Camaleón]

El Sat, 20 Feb 2016 20:48:15 +0100, juan carlos Rebate escribió:

> El día 19 de febrero de 2016, 17:46, Camaleón 
> escribió:

(...)

>> Para configurar wireshark o tcpdump (capturar y analizar el tráfico de
>> la red) recuerdo que había que seguir unas pautas, como poner la
>> tarjeta en modo promiscuo y usar un hub en lugar de un switch (o uno
>> con un puerto de "monitorización" específico)... en fin, revisa los
>> puntos que indican en la guía de cómo realizar una captura para
>> comprobar que en tu caso se cumplen todos los requisitos:
>>
>> How To Set Up a Capture https://wiki.wireshark.org/CaptureSetup
>>
>> En cuanto al problema del enrutado propiamente dicho tendrías que dar
>> más datos de la configuración de la red y qué componentes de hardware
>> entran en juego.
>>
>>
> mira camaleon no se si lo haces por fastidiar o que pero deja ya de
> responder si no tienes idea de lo que se pregunta ok?, 

(...)

Ah, que no quieres que te ayude. ¡Pues dilo, hombre! Si es muy sencillo, 
si no quieres que te responda indícalo en el correo que yo no tengo 
manías.

P.S. A la lista negra que te vas, digo, para no responderte más :-)

Saludos,

-- 
Camaleón

Re: Cannot play any media file using parole in Debian 8 jessie Xfce edition

[Adam Wilson]

On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 22:47:16 +0600 Muntasim-Ul Haque
 wrote:

> I installed all the gstreamer plugins needed for parole to work. But 
> that didn't help much. I can now play mp3's, but not any video or
> movie file.

Define 'any video or movie file'. What formats have you tried to play
with parole exactly?

Re: nytimes pages that fail in iceweasel [SOLVED]

[Adam Wilson]

On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 22:59:26 + Lisi Reisz 
wrote:

> On Saturday 20 February 2016 16:17:22 Andrew McGlashan wrote:
> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> > Hash: SHA256
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > On 21/02/2016 2:12 AM, Steve Kleene wrote:
> > > user_pref("dom.indexedDB.enabled", false);
> > >
> > > When I changed this to "true" in my original prefs.js, the web
> > > pages worked properly.
> > >
> > > The newly enabled function, IndexedDB, apparently has some
> > > security shortcomings:
> > >
> > > https://www.researchgate.net/publication/281066023_Some_Potential_Issu
> >
> > es_with_the_Security_of_HTML5_IndexedDB
> >
> > Please
> >
> > provide a link that is consistent with FOSS principles; no
> > login requirement.
> 
> I didn't have to log in.
> 
> Lisi

And how is password-protection incompatible with free software
principles anyway?

Re: Components non-free and contrib are not enabled after installing to virtualbox virtual machine.

[Adam Wilson]

On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 11:18:05 +0100 (CET) jds1...@telenet.be wrote:

> I downloaded and installed the latest Debian CD image
> (http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/8.3.0/amd64/iso-cd/debian-8.3.0-amd64-CD-1.iso)
> 
> Installing to bare metal enables the components main contrib and
> non-free.
> 
> Installing to a virtualbox virtual machine only enables the main
> component, not contrib nor non-free.
> 
> Why is that?
> 
> Is it intended behaviour? If so, what is the reasoning behind it?
> 
> Is it a bug?
> 
> I did some debugging and the problem seems to be located in the
> installers 'apt-setup' package. In that shell script the calls to 
> 
> 
> db-get apt-setup/non-free
> 
> and 
> 
> db-fget apt-setup/contrib
> 
> return false when installing to virtual machine, but they return true
> when installing to bare metal.
> 
> Is there a way  to set up debconf so that it enables components
> contrib and non-free when installing to a virtualbox virtual machine?
> 
> Any advice gratefully received,
> 
> jds1307
> 

Are you sure you installed using exactly the same image on both bare
metal and in the VM?

Because in my experience, Debian only enables main on a fresh install
with official images (unless the user specifies otherwise). Else it is
a bug, since Debian is supposed to be free.

Re: Components non-free and contrib are not enabled after installing to virtualbox virtual machine.

[Tixy]

On Sat, 2016-02-20 at 11:18 +0100, jds1...@telenet.be wrote:
> I downloaded and installed the latest Debian CD image 
> (http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/8.3.0/amd64/iso-cd/debian-8.3.0-amd64-CD-1.iso)
> 
> Installing to bare metal enables the components main contrib and non-free.
> 
> Installing to a virtualbox virtual machine only enables the main component, 
> not contrib nor non-free.
> 
> Why is that?
> 
> Is it intended behaviour? If so, what is the reasoning behind it?
> 
> Is it a bug?

If contrib and non-free are enabled by default in official Debian
installer then I would say that yes, it's a bug, as Debian is meant to
be free - unless there's been a recent policy change that I haven't
noticed.

-- 
Tixy

Upgraded squeeze-lts server to wheezy -- client exim4 connections over tls give segfault

[Andrew McGlashan]

Hi,

I've been running squeeze-lts VM on a squeeze-lts Xen server.

Updated the VM to wheezy and it mostly works okay, but but mail
connections fail with a segfault.

#  swaks -4 -s mail.affinityvision.com.au -tlsc -p 465 --ehlo
affintiyvision.com.au -au andrewm -ap  -t
andrew.mcglas...@affinityvision.com.au -f
andrew.mcglas...@affinityvision.com.au
Password: **
=== Trying mail.affinityvision.com.au:465...
=== Connected to mail.affinityvision.com.au.
Segmentation fault


If I connect to a different machine running  (even from the /faulty/ VM),
it works fine.

Other server:

#swaks -4 -s mail.otherdomain.com -tlsc -p 465 --ehlo
otherdomain.com -au andrewm -ap  -t
andrew.mcglas...@affinityvision.com.au -f andr...@otherdomain.com
Password: 
=== Trying mail.otherdomain.com:465...
=== Connected to mail.otherdomain.com.
=== TLS started w/ cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA256
=== TLS peer subject DN="/CN=mail.otherdomaincom"
<~  220 mail.otherdomain.com.au ESMTP Exim 4.80 Mon, 22 Feb 2016 00:24:03
+1100
 ~> EHLO otherdomain.com
<~  250-mail.otherdomain.com.au Hello ns2.affinityvision.com.au
[220.233.38.77]
<~  250-SIZE 41943040
<~  250-8BITMIME
<~  250-PIPELINING
<~  250-AUTH LOGIN
<~  250 HELP
 ~> AUTH LOGIN

...

<~  235 Authentication succeeded
 ~> MAIL FROM:
<~  250 OK
 ~> RCPT TO:
<~  250 Accepted
 ~> DATA
<~  354 Enter message, ending with "." on a line by itself
 ~> Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2016 00:23:57 +1100
 ~> To: andrew.mcglas...@affinityvision.com.au
 ~> From: andr...@otherdomain.com
 ~> Subject: test Mon, 22 Feb 2016 00:23:57 +1100
 ~> X-Mailer: swaks v20120320.0 jetmore.org/john/code/swaks/
 ~>
 ~> This is a test mailing
 ~>
 ~> .
<~  250 OK id=1aXTzX-0008WV-GF
 ~> QUIT
<~  221 mail.otherdomain.com.au closing connection
=== Connection closed with remote host.



The server that is failing has these installed packages:

# egrep -i '(exim|dovecot|sasl|linux-image|openssl|gnutls)'
/root/dpkg.wrk/dpkg-query-l-20160222-00.37.51
ii  dovecot-common 1:2.1.7-7+deb7u1 
all  Transitional package for dovecot
ii  dovecot-core   1:2.1.7-7+deb7u1 
amd64secure mail server that supports mbox, maildir, dbox and
mdbox mailboxes
ii  dovecot-imapd  1:2.1.7-7+deb7u1 
amd64secure IMAP server that supports mbox, maildir, dbox and
mdbox mailboxes
ii  dovecot-pop3d  1:2.1.7-7+deb7u1 
amd64secure POP3 server that supports mbox, maildir, dbox and
mdbox mailboxes
ii  exim4  4.80-7+deb7u1
all  metapackage to ease Exim MTA (v4) installation
ii  exim4-base 4.80-7+deb7u1
amd64support files for all Exim MTA (v4) packages
ii  exim4-config   4.80-7+deb7u1
all  configuration for the Exim MTA (v4)
ii  exim4-daemon-heavy 4.80-7+deb7u1
amd64Exim MTA (v4) daemon with extended features, including
exiscan-acl
ii  exim4-doc-html 4.80-2   
all  documentation for the Exim MTA (v4) in html format
ii  gnutls-bin 3.0.22-3+really2.12.20-8+deb7u5  
amd64GNU TLS library - commandline utilities
ii  greylistd  0.8.8
all  Greylisting daemon for use with Exim 4
ii  libcurl3:amd64 7.26.0-1+wheezy13
amd64easy-to-use client-side URL transfer library (OpenSSL
flavour)
ii  libcurl3-gnutls:amd64  7.26.0-1+wheezy13
amd64easy-to-use client-side URL transfer library (GnuTLS flavour)
ii  libgnutls26:amd64  2.12.20-8+deb7u5 
amd64GNU TLS library - runtime library
ii  libneon27-gnutls   0.29.6-3 
amd64HTTP and WebDAV client library (GnuTLS enabled)
ii  libsasl2-2:amd64   2.1.25.dfsg1-6+deb7u1
amd64Cyrus SASL - authentication abstraction library
ii  libsasl2-modules:amd64 2.1.25.dfsg1-6+deb7u1
amd64Cyrus SASL - pluggable authentication modules
ii  linux-image-2.6.32-5-xen-amd64 2.6.32-48squeeze19   
amd64Linux 2.6.32 for 64-bit PCs, Xen dom0 support
ii  openssl1.0.1e-2+deb7u19 
amd64Secure Socket Layer (SSL) binary and related cryptographic
tools
ii  openssl-blacklist  0.5-3
all  Blacklists for  OpenSSL RSA keys and tools
ii  openssl-blacklist-extra0.5-3
all  Non-default blacklists of OpenSSL RSA keys
ii  sa-exim

Upgraded squeeze-lts server to wheezy -- client exim4 connections over tls give segfault

[Andrew McGlashan]

Hi,
 I've been running squeeze-lts VM on a squeeze-lts Xen
server. Updated the VM to wheezy and it most ly works okay, but but mail  
 
connections fail with a segfault
 #  swaks -4
-s mail.affinityvision.com.au -tlsc -p 465 --ehlo
affintiyvision.com.au -au andrewm -ap  -t
andrew.mcglas...@affinityvision.com.au -f
andrew.mcglas...@affinityvision.com.au
 Password:
**
 === Trying
mail.affinityvision.com.au:465...
 === Connected to
mail.affinityvision.com.au.
 Segmentation fault
 If I
connect to a different machine running  (even from the
/faulty/
VM), it works fine.
 Other server:

#    swaks -4 -s
mail.otherdomain.com        
-tlsc -p 465
--ehlo
otherdomain.com        
-au andrewm -ap  -t andrew.mcglas...@affinityvision.com.au
-f andr...@showfront.com
 Password:

 === Trying
mail.otherdomain.com:465...
 === Connected to
mail.otherdomain.com.
 === TLS started w/ cipher
DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA256
 === TLS peer subject
DN="/CN=mail.otherdomaincom"
  EHLO otherdomain.com
  ~> This is a test mailing

 ~>
  ~> .
  QUIT

nytimes pages that fail in iceweasel

[Steve Kleene]

On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 19:12:15 -0800, Patrick Bartek wrote:

> What I'd like to know is how iceweasel broke on the OP's system in the
> first place. I did a standard install of the browser on my 64-bit Wheezy
> system years ago, installed Flash, etc., and it works.  Maybe, it's
> because I don't use or have installed any desktop. Just use a window
> manager, Openbox.

I'm the OP.  I don't know when the feature got turned off, but I also use
just a windowing system (fvwm).  I also wasn't using Tor.

Re: View all Inboxes on a Debian mail app

[Håkon Alstadheim]

Den 19. feb. 2016 23:19, skrev Andrew Wood:
> Is there any mail program for Debian which has the option to show the
> inboxes of multiple mail accounts as one consolidated view a bit like
> the 'All Inboxes' option on the iPhone/iPad/Mac Mail?
Icedove (aka Thunderbird) has all kinds of views, incluing  unified
Inbox view (without physically moving the mails to one inbox). Menu for
setting is "View" -> "Folders" -> "Unified". Never used it, so I don't
know if like-named subfolders will also be unified, but my guess is yes.

Re: View all Inboxes on a Debian mail app

[Andrew Wood]

Thanks for all the suggestions, its for someone else so I will pass them on

Fwd: Re: Sid o no sid, aquesta és la qüestió

[Daniel]

 Mensaje reenviado 
Asunto: Re: Sid o no sid, aquesta és la qüestió
Fecha:  Sun, 21 Feb 2016 11:42:20 +0100
De: Daniel 
Para:   Narcis Garcia 



Sí, tens raó, Narcís. El problema es que al demanar al synaptic que 
m'instalés l'amule, no vaig caure en que repassaria tots els repositoris 
del sources.list, i vaig instalar tota una colla de programes que no 
hauria volgut que s'instalessin (p.ex., el LibreOffice 5). Però com que 
veig que funciona, santes pàsqües...


Al sources.list, vaig canviar només a sid la línia

/deb http://ftp.caliu.cat/debian/ jessie main contrib non-free

/

El 21/02/16 a las 11:00, Narcis Garcia escribió:

La meva suggerència tracta de mantenir-se en «stable», instal·lar només
programari «testing» en el moment de necessitar-lo, i no pas
d'actualitzar tot a sid/testing.



__
I'm using this express-made address because personal addresses aren't
masked enough at lists.debian.org archives.

El 21/02/16 a les 00:37, Daniel ha escrit:

Com que veig que va funcionant l'ordinador, aplicaré la màxima de "si
funciona no ho toquis". He refet el sources list a jessie, i he fet
l'apt-get update. Gràcies.

El 19/02/16 a las 10:32, Narcis Garcia escribió:

Jo en aquests casos (havent instal·lat la versió estable del S.O.):
1. Habilito la testing/etc
2. apt-get update
3. Instal·lo el programari que m'interessa
4. Restableixo els repositoris com estaven (stable/jessie)
5. apt-get update



__
I'm using this express-made address because personal addresses aren't
masked enough at lists.debian.org archives.

El 19/02/16 a les 09:32, Daniel ha escrit:

Hola:

Ahir vaig espifiar-la. Fa poc, vaig instalar la jessie; vaig trobar amb
sorpresa que em desapareixia l'aMule; i vaig tirar d'internet per buscar
una solució.
Vaig canviar en el sources.list la primera ratlla de jessie a sid, vaig
executar el synaptic, vaig marcar l'amule... i el pc es va tirar una
hora llarga instal·lant actualitzacions i programes del sid. M'ho podia
haver pensat.
Què faig? Acabo d'instal.lar el sid per la mateixa via, és a dir, editar
el sources.list tot a sid, aptitude update i aptitude upgrade, i unes
rogatives a Santa Tecla?



--
Daniel Elias
Usuari de Linux nº 461584

Re: how to install debian on iMac

[Rick Thomas]

On Sun, 21 Feb 2016 15:55:38 +0800
lina  wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 21, 2016 at 8:07 AM, Rick Thomas 
> wrote:
> >
> > On Feb 20, 2016, at 2:13 PM, Rick Thomas  wrote:
> >  
> >>
> >> On Feb 19, 2016, at 9:31 PM, lina  wrote:
> >>  
> >>> Has anyone tried successfully to install the debian into the iMac
> >>> with Fusion drive?
> >>>
> >>> The basic configuration is
> >>>
> >>> •   2.8GHz quad-core Intel Core i5 processor, Turbo Boost up to
> >>> 3.3GHz •   Intel Iris Pro Graphics 6200
> >>> •   8GB 1867MHz LPDDR3
> >>> •   1TB Fusion Drive
> >>>
> >>> Where I can find a step-by-step guide?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,  
> >>
> >> Hi Lina,
> >>
> >> As noted by another person on the list, there is a fairly complete
> >> installation guide at https://www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/#stable
> >>
> >> I've never tried installing Debian on an intel-based Mac before,
> >> but as it happens, I do have a MacBook-Pro from about 2007 or so
> >> that I recently retired and replaced with with a much lighter
> >> MacBook Air.  Since your biggest problem is probably going to be
> >> getting the installer to boot, I'm willing to work through it with
> >> you step-by-step using my MacBook-Pro and your iMac.
> >>
> >> The first question will be, "Does your iMac have a functioning DVD
> >> or CD drive?" The second question will be, "Do you have access to
> >> the Internet? If so, is it wifi or wired ethernet?"
> >>
> >> Let's keep the conversation on the debian-user list for the time
> >> being.  There may be others who have knowledge to contribute.
> >>
> >> Enjoy!
> >> Rick
> >>
> >> PS:  And thanks for the kind words from Stephen Allen!  
> >
> > A couple more questions...
> >
> > Does your iMac currently have a functioning version of MacOs-X
> > installed?
> >
> > Do you want to keep the option to boot into MacOS-X after
> > installing Linux? This is possible (it's called "dual boot") but it
> > takes a couple of extra steps -- don't be afraid.  It's not
> > complicated!
> >
> > Enjoy!
> > Rick  
> 
> Yes, the current iMac comes with OS X EI Captian version 10.11.3
> 
> I do wish to keep the Mac OS, and may give 400GB for it. and 600GB for
> debian. My big concern is the fusion driver.
> 
> Thanks,
> 

I confess to never having heard of a Fusion drive before today, so I
googled it and found this explanation:

http://www.techradar.com/us/news/computing-components/storage/fusion-drive-what-it-is-and-how-it-speeds-up-your-mac-1154051

Which says that, in contrast to a "hybrid" drive which uses on-board
firmware to provide a flash cache -- with no OS software involvement at
all; the "Fusion Drive" is implemented as two separate drives -- one SSD
and one HD, with the OS software supervising the caching. 

This means Linux (and the boot loader firmware) will see it as two
separate drives, but MacOS-X will continue to see it as one logical
drive.  The mis-match between the two storage models means the debian
installer's disk partitioner will (almost certainly) wind up destroying
the MacOS-X image on the drive, which is probably not what you were
hoping for.

The techradar web page hints at some partitioning tools that maybe
could be used to split the hard drive into two partitions and attach
the SSD to the first partition forming a Fusion drive that is somewhat
smaller than it started out, leaving the second partition free to hold
Linux.   But... Needless to say, my MacBook-Pro doesn't have a Fusion
drive, so I can't use it to test any procedures we might come up with.

So here's my suggestion:

Get yourself a USB3 or thunderbolt external drive and install Debian to
it stand alone, leaving the Fusion drive untouched for MacOS-X.
I'm thinking that you're probably going to want an external drive to use
for TimeMachine backup anyway, so you can easily carve out a 600GB
partition on it to use for Linux.

You sound like you are fairly familiar with Linux already, so you may
not need my help with the installation process, once you're got the
disk partitioning figured out.  But if you do need help, my offer still
stands to work it through together with you, each on our separate
machines.

Enjoy!
Rick

Re: ssh regenerated moduli file much smaller than the one provided by Debian

[Jörg-Volker Peetz]

Just for complement, compare these ssh security tips:

Secure Secure Shell
https://stribika.github.io/2015/01/04/secure-secure-shell.html

Regards,
jvp.

rotating screen in debian tablet

[jdd]

Hello,

I try to install debian jessie on a windows 10 It Works TW891 tablet 
(with attached keyboard)


using the hybrid 32/64 bits dvd, I could install jessie with xfce.

But... it's installed in portrait mode (the screen need to be seen with 
the longer size vertical), when the keyboard expect a lanscape mode, so 
it's really unfriendly :-).


I could make the *initial terminal* (text mode), to display in the right 
position, adding to the grub2 kernel line:


vga=791
fbcon=rotate:1
video=efifb
nomodeset

may be one of these options is not right, but I couldn't test all. not 
the question here, probably.


but as soon as X takes over, the screen fallback to portrait.

xfce panel do not have any option other than "normal" for orientation.

video is intel vga (no other detail)

xrandr --output default --rotate left

fails with "cannot use rotation left"

I could add a mode 1280x800 following

http://dodin.info/wiki/pmwiki.php?n=Doc.AddXResolution

but with "configure crtc 0 failed"

any hint?

thanks
jdd

Re: Sid o no sid, aquesta és la qüestió

[Narcis Garcia]

La meva suggerència tracta de mantenir-se en «stable», instal·lar només
programari «testing» en el moment de necessitar-lo, i no pas
d'actualitzar tot a sid/testing.



__
I'm using this express-made address because personal addresses aren't
masked enough at lists.debian.org archives.

El 21/02/16 a les 00:37, Daniel ha escrit:
> Com que veig que va funcionant l'ordinador, aplicaré la màxima de "si
> funciona no ho toquis". He refet el sources list a jessie, i he fet
> l'apt-get update. Gràcies.
> 
> El 19/02/16 a las 10:32, Narcis Garcia escribió:
>> Jo en aquests casos (havent instal·lat la versió estable del S.O.):
>> 1. Habilito la testing/etc
>> 2. apt-get update
>> 3. Instal·lo el programari que m'interessa
>> 4. Restableixo els repositoris com estaven (stable/jessie)
>> 5. apt-get update
>>
>>
>>
>> __
>> I'm using this express-made address because personal addresses aren't
>> masked enough at lists.debian.org archives.
>>
>> El 19/02/16 a les 09:32, Daniel ha escrit:
>>> Hola:
>>>
>>> Ahir vaig espifiar-la. Fa poc, vaig instalar la jessie; vaig trobar amb
>>> sorpresa que em desapareixia l'aMule; i vaig tirar d'internet per buscar
>>> una solució.
>>> Vaig canviar en el sources.list la primera ratlla de jessie a sid, vaig
>>> executar el synaptic, vaig marcar l'amule... i el pc es va tirar una
>>> hora llarga instal·lant actualitzacions i programes del sid. M'ho podia
>>> haver pensat.
>>> Què faig? Acabo d'instal.lar el sid per la mateixa via, és a dir, editar
>>> el sources.list tot a sid, aptitude update i aptitude upgrade, i unes
>>> rogatives a Santa Tecla?
>>>
> 

Re: how to install debian on iMac

[lina]

In the partition device provided disk utility, it only has

OS x Extended

MS-DOS FAT
exFAT

these format.

Thanks,

On Sun, Feb 21, 2016 at 5:23 PM, lina  wrote:
> I want to keep current Mac OS and besides I am not sure how to install it.
>
> Any suggestion about how to partition the hard disk?
>
> I prefer using the dis1s2.
>
> Thanks'
>
>
> CoreStorage logical volume groups (1 found)
> |
> +-- Logical Volume Group 9F5EC450-D81F-4DDB-ADB7-A53BCB88C16B
> =
> Name: Macintosh HD
> Status:   Online
> Size: 1022898851840 B (1.0 TB)
> Free Space:   45056 B (45.1 KB)
> |
> +-< Physical Volume 153AC3A4-AA6A-4F13-9AAF-6ACC07030BDA
> |   
> |   Index:0
> |   Disk: disk0s2
> |   Status:   Online
> |   Size: 23553724416 B (23.6 GB)
> |
> +-< Physical Volume 43C36128-ECCC-418A-A31C-59B6B67EC602
> |   
> |   Index:1
> |   Disk: disk1s2
> |   Status:   Online
> |   Size: 999345127424 B (999.3 GB)
> |
> +-> Logical Volume Family 30A1C0ED-ED52-4A6D-B3DE-B6745F51E798
> --
> Encryption Type: None
> |
> +-> Logical Volume 34E4803C-9D5C-49A1-9688-A281E8F39E6B
> ---
> Disk:  disk2
> Status:Online
> Size (Total):  1021994074112 B (1.0 TB)
> Revertible:No
> LV Name:   Macintosh HD
> Volume Name:   Macintosh HD
> Content Hint:  Apple_HFS
> LVG Type:  Fusion, Sparse
>
> On Sun, Feb 21, 2016 at 3:55 PM, lina  wrote:
>> Yes, the current iMac comes with OS X EI Captian version 10.11.3
>>
>> I do wish to keep the Mac OS, and may give 400GB for it. and 600GB for
>> debian. My big concern is the fusion driver.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 21, 2016 at 8:07 AM, Rick Thomas  wrote:
>>>
>>> On Feb 20, 2016, at 2:13 PM, Rick Thomas  wrote:
>>>

 On Feb 19, 2016, at 9:31 PM, lina  wrote:

> Has anyone tried successfully to install the debian into the iMac with
> Fusion drive?
>
> The basic configuration is
>
> •   2.8GHz quad-core Intel Core i5 processor, Turbo Boost up to 3.3GHz
> •   Intel Iris Pro Graphics 6200
> •   8GB 1867MHz LPDDR3
> •   1TB Fusion Drive
>
> Where I can find a step-by-step guide?
>
> Thanks,

 Hi Lina,

 As noted by another person on the list, there is a fairly complete 
 installation guide at
https://www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/#stable

 I've never tried installing Debian on an intel-based Mac before, but as it 
 happens, I do have a MacBook-Pro from about 2007 or so that I recently 
 retired and replaced with with a much lighter MacBook Air.  Since your 
 biggest problem is probably going to be getting the installer to boot, I'm 
 willing to work through it with you step-by-step using my MacBook-Pro and 
 your iMac.

 The first question will be, "Does your iMac have a functioning DVD or CD 
 drive?"
 The second question will be, "Do you have access to the Internet? If so, 
 is it wifi or wired ethernet?"

 Let's keep the conversation on the debian-user list for the time being.  
 There may be others who have knowledge to contribute.

 Enjoy!
 Rick

 PS:  And thanks for the kind words from Stephen Allen!
>>>
>>> A couple more questions...
>>>
>>> Does your iMac currently have a functioning version of MacOs-X installed?
>>>
>>> Do you want to keep the option to boot into MacOS-X after installing Linux?
>>> This is possible (it's called "dual boot") but it takes a couple of extra 
>>> steps -- don't be afraid.  It's not complicated!
>>>
>>> Enjoy!
>>> Rick

Re: how to install debian on iMac

[lina]

I want to keep current Mac OS and besides I am not sure how to install it.

Any suggestion about how to partition the hard disk?

I prefer using the dis1s2.

Thanks'


CoreStorage logical volume groups (1 found)
|
+-- Logical Volume Group 9F5EC450-D81F-4DDB-ADB7-A53BCB88C16B
=
Name: Macintosh HD
Status:   Online
Size: 1022898851840 B (1.0 TB)
Free Space:   45056 B (45.1 KB)
|
+-< Physical Volume 153AC3A4-AA6A-4F13-9AAF-6ACC07030BDA
|   
|   Index:0
|   Disk: disk0s2
|   Status:   Online
|   Size: 23553724416 B (23.6 GB)
|
+-< Physical Volume 43C36128-ECCC-418A-A31C-59B6B67EC602
|   
|   Index:1
|   Disk: disk1s2
|   Status:   Online
|   Size: 999345127424 B (999.3 GB)
|
+-> Logical Volume Family 30A1C0ED-ED52-4A6D-B3DE-B6745F51E798
--
Encryption Type: None
|
+-> Logical Volume 34E4803C-9D5C-49A1-9688-A281E8F39E6B
---
Disk:  disk2
Status:Online
Size (Total):  1021994074112 B (1.0 TB)
Revertible:No
LV Name:   Macintosh HD
Volume Name:   Macintosh HD
Content Hint:  Apple_HFS
LVG Type:  Fusion, Sparse

On Sun, Feb 21, 2016 at 3:55 PM, lina  wrote:
> Yes, the current iMac comes with OS X EI Captian version 10.11.3
>
> I do wish to keep the Mac OS, and may give 400GB for it. and 600GB for
> debian. My big concern is the fusion driver.
>
> Thanks,
>
> On Sun, Feb 21, 2016 at 8:07 AM, Rick Thomas  wrote:
>>
>> On Feb 20, 2016, at 2:13 PM, Rick Thomas  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 19, 2016, at 9:31 PM, lina  wrote:
>>>
 Has anyone tried successfully to install the debian into the iMac with
 Fusion drive?

 The basic configuration is

 •   2.8GHz quad-core Intel Core i5 processor, Turbo Boost up to 3.3GHz
 •   Intel Iris Pro Graphics 6200
 •   8GB 1867MHz LPDDR3
 •   1TB Fusion Drive

 Where I can find a step-by-step guide?

 Thanks,
>>>
>>> Hi Lina,
>>>
>>> As noted by another person on the list, there is a fairly complete 
>>> installation guide at
>>>https://www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/#stable
>>>
>>> I've never tried installing Debian on an intel-based Mac before, but as it 
>>> happens, I do have a MacBook-Pro from about 2007 or so that I recently 
>>> retired and replaced with with a much lighter MacBook Air.  Since your 
>>> biggest problem is probably going to be getting the installer to boot, I'm 
>>> willing to work through it with you step-by-step using my MacBook-Pro and 
>>> your iMac.
>>>
>>> The first question will be, "Does your iMac have a functioning DVD or CD 
>>> drive?"
>>> The second question will be, "Do you have access to the Internet? If so, is 
>>> it wifi or wired ethernet?"
>>>
>>> Let's keep the conversation on the debian-user list for the time being.  
>>> There may be others who have knowledge to contribute.
>>>
>>> Enjoy!
>>> Rick
>>>
>>> PS:  And thanks for the kind words from Stephen Allen!
>>
>> A couple more questions...
>>
>> Does your iMac currently have a functioning version of MacOs-X installed?
>>
>> Do you want to keep the option to boot into MacOS-X after installing Linux?
>> This is possible (it's called "dual boot") but it takes a couple of extra 
>> steps -- don't be afraid.  It's not complicated!
>>
>> Enjoy!
>> Rick