Re: Subject=Re: Re: Third Monitor Stopped Working

2016-11-08 Thread deloptes
Felix Miata wrote:

> deloptes composed on 2016-11-09 01:31 (UTC+0100):
> 
>> Felix Miata wrote:
> 
>>> deloptes composed on 2016-11-08 20:45 (UTC+0100):
> 
 Barak A. Pearlmutter wrote:
> 
> [ 621.721] (EE) modeset(0): failed to set mode: No space left on
> [ device
> 
 self explaining
> 
>>> What device???
> 
>> Barak did not say what video card/chip he has, but this comes in
>> conjunction to NVidia
> 
> lspci output provided included only one Intel line.
> 
>> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94577
> 
>>
https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/928743/linux/cannot-start-x-from-february-2016-nvidia-optimus/
> 
> What did you see in OP to suggest poster has Optimus?

I did not see the original post - I looked for it, but perhaps I missed it.
Perhaps OP needs a recent intel driver

regards



Re: can't reboot

2016-11-08 Thread Anthony Baldwin



On 11/08/2016 04:16 PM, Michael Milliman wrote:

On Tue, 2016-11-08 at 15:56 -0500, Tony Baldwin wrote:


On 11/08/2016 02:57 PM, Anthony Baldwin wrote:

I've been hvaving trouble for over a month, I can't boot the same system
twice.
I replaced a hardrive because it was suggested the problem was a hard drive,
but now, with a brand spanking new hard drive, any time Ihave to halt
the system and boot it back up.
 end up waiting an hour for the 2TB disk to be fscked, and then get
dumped to a root terminal.
The last time, 17 days ago, I believe, I managed to get the new HDD to
boot after multiple fsckings with gparted from a live disk, which I'm
about to repeat,
so i can get back into the system I've been building, customizing, and
installing all my favourite dev tools and stuff on for almost 3 weeks
Just now, trying to reboot, the only thing that looked amiss before the
fscking and root prompt,
was something about failure to load kernel modules, whereas on prior
attempts, the only errors I could see
were about corrupted file systems, which would explain all the fscking,
perhaps.
The system fscked itself after the module failure notice, too..
I'm hoping some fskcking will get me back up.
But Aiḿ getting real tired of goint through this stuff everytime I need
to reboot.
What happens when there's a power failure? I have to waste half the next
day doing multiple fsckings?
Preposterous.
I swear I've never had mor e trouble with Debian than I keep having with
Jessie/Systemd.
troubles mounting my android phone, trouble with sound suddenly deciding
not to work, and
complete failure to reboot. It's dismaying ,disheartening, and infuriating.
"Stable" used to mean "rock-solid"If I have to reinstall one more time,
I'm likely to install fedora or something.


Happilly, after 3 fsckings 9(and only sacrificing 1 chicken 0 goats), I
got her to reboot(and my sound is back on, as already mentioned on that
particular thread)


Should have sacrificed the chicken in the first place:-)


Indeed, I always forget the appropriate sacrifices until I've tried 
everything else and become desparate...


tony





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multilingual web development
EN, ES, FR, PT



Re: parted is ALMOST suitable

2016-11-08 Thread Stefan Monnier
>> > Futzing with partitions is the admin's job.
>> Could be, but it's not (g)parted's job to enforce these kinds of rules:
>> that's what Unix permissions (and Linux's capabilities) are for.
>> It's OK to add a warning and prompt the user to make sure he really
>> means to do that, but there's no point *preventing* the user from
>> shooting his own foot with this tool if he can do it with other
>> tools anyway.

> Users here get no opportunity to shoot themselves or anyone else in the
> foot.  Access to raw disks is over my dead body.

So your users don't have access rights to the raw disks?
Great! then (g)parted doesn't need to check anything since the kernel
will do that already.

> So I do not understand your point.

The fact that it checks if the user is UID 0 is either useless (because
the user doesn't have write access to the device anyway, as should
usually be the case for the real physical devices connected to the
machine) or annoying (because it doesn't give any extra security since
the user can shoot himself in the foot with any number of other tools
anyway).

It costs extra code with at best no benefit.


Stefan



Re: Subject=Re: Re: Third Monitor Stopped Working

2016-11-08 Thread Mark Fletcher
On Tue, Nov 08, 2016 at 05:59:25PM -0500, Felix Miata wrote:
> deloptes composed on 2016-11-08 20:45 (UTC+0100):
> 
> >Barak A. Pearlmutter wrote:
> 
> >>[ 621.721] (EE) modeset(0): failed to set mode: No space left on device
> 
> >self explaining
> 
> What device???
> -- 

Yes, I have to say that is what went through my head when I saw that 
error message too. That no space left on device message is usually 
talking about a storage device like a hard disk -- and why would a hard 
disk be involved in setting the display mode??? Sounds almost 
Microsoft... yuck!

Sorry I am not able to help, but perhaps the sympathy / validation will 
be worth something.

Mark



Re: sound disappeared

2016-11-08 Thread Tony Baldwin



On 11/08/2016 06:07 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:

On Tue, Nov 08, 2016 at 02:11:14PM -0500, Anthony Baldwin wrote:

I did
pulseaudio --dump-modules -v > pavumods.txt

and in there, I find:
Name: module-detect
Version: 5.0
Description: Detect available audio hardware and load matching drivers
Author: Lennart Poettering
Usage: just-one=
Load Once: yes
DEPRECATION WARNING: Please use module-udev-detect instead of module-detect!
Path: /usr/lib/pulse-5.0/modules/module-detect

I don't know where/how to acquire and enable module-udev-detect.\
an aptitude search for it shows nothing, I can only assume it comes with
some other pkg.

I also find another warning:
Name: module-combine
Version: 5.0
Description: Compatibility module (module-combine rename)
Author: Colin Guthrie
Load Once: no
DEPRECATION WARNING: Please use module-combine-sink instead of
module-combine!
Path: /usr/lib/pulse-5.0/modules/module-combine

and have the same issue, an aptitude search for module-combine produces no
result.


apt-file search module-combine shows that both module-combine and
module-combine-sink are in the pulseaudio package, so likely already
installed.

apt-file search module-udev and apt-file search module-detect show that
they are also in the pulseaudio package.

apt-file is a really useful tool for answering questions like "what
files are in this package?", "What package is this file in?", and "Where
the hell did this file come from?"


I'll have to remember that (apt-file) for future reference, looks 
really, really useful.

Thanks,
tony
--
http://tonybaldwin.me
all tony, all the time



Re: sound disappeared

2016-11-08 Thread Mark Fletcher
On Tue, Nov 08, 2016 at 02:11:14PM -0500, Anthony Baldwin wrote:
> I did
> pulseaudio --dump-modules -v > pavumods.txt
> 
> and in there, I find:
> Name: module-detect
> Version: 5.0
> Description: Detect available audio hardware and load matching drivers
> Author: Lennart Poettering
> Usage: just-one=
> Load Once: yes
> DEPRECATION WARNING: Please use module-udev-detect instead of module-detect!
> Path: /usr/lib/pulse-5.0/modules/module-detect
> 
> I don't know where/how to acquire and enable module-udev-detect.\
> an aptitude search for it shows nothing, I can only assume it comes with
> some other pkg.
> 
> I also find another warning:
> Name: module-combine
> Version: 5.0
> Description: Compatibility module (module-combine rename)
> Author: Colin Guthrie
> Load Once: no
> DEPRECATION WARNING: Please use module-combine-sink instead of
> module-combine!
> Path: /usr/lib/pulse-5.0/modules/module-combine
> 
> and have the same issue, an aptitude search for module-combine produces no
> result.

apt-file search module-combine shows that both module-combine and 
module-combine-sink are in the pulseaudio package, so likely already 
installed.

apt-file search module-udev and apt-file search module-detect show that 
they are also in the pulseaudio package.

apt-file is a really useful tool for answering questions like "what 
files are in this package?", "What package is this file in?", and "Where 
the hell did this file come from?"

Mark



Re: Subject=Re: Re: Third Monitor Stopped Working

2016-11-08 Thread Felix Miata

deloptes composed on 2016-11-08 20:45 (UTC+0100):


Barak A. Pearlmutter wrote:



[ 621.721] (EE) modeset(0): failed to set mode: No space left on device



self explaining


What device???
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Re: sound disappeared

2016-11-08 Thread Václav Ovsík
On Tue, Nov 08, 2016 at 04:45:09PM -0500, Tony Baldwin wrote:
>...
> Did you check to verify that pidgin sounds are enabled or configured to be
> on?

Yes :)
I simply noticed some problems - cutted sounds or no sounds in Pidgin
only. Firefox or mplayer works OK. I have not installed pulseaudio
server, I'm using ALSA directly.
The problem is in latest gstreamer 1.10 - see my previous post.

> How about other applications?

I think other apps are working ok, but not tested everything available.
-- 
Zito



Re: sound disappeared

2016-11-08 Thread Václav Ovsík
On Tue, Nov 08, 2016 at 09:05:50PM +0100, Václav Ovsík wrote:
> ...
> hmm, I have some issues with audio too. I hear no sounds of Pidgin IM
> client or cutted very short clips.
> I think this it is within last pulseaudio upgrade

that was bad estimate. Downgrade of pulsaudio didn't bring change.
I went a bit further and did downgrade gstreamer to 1.8.3 and that is it.

After this downgrade:

Will install 14 packages, and remove 5 packages.
2428 kB of disk space will be freed

[REMOVE, NOT USED] liblilv-0-0:amd64 0.24.0~dfsg0-1
[REMOVE, NOT USED] libserd-0-0:amd64 0.24.0~dfsg0-1
[REMOVE, NOT USED] libsord-0-0:amd64 0.16.0~dfsg0-1
[REMOVE, NOT USED] libsratom-0-0:amd64 0.6.0~dfsg0-1
[REMOVE, NOT USED] libwebrtc-audio-processing1:amd64 0.3-1
[DOWNGRADE] gir1.2-ges-1.0:amd64 1.10.0-1 -> 1.8.3-1
[DOWNGRADE] gir1.2-gst-plugins-base-1.0:amd64 1.10.0-1 -> 1.8.3-1
[DOWNGRADE] gir1.2-gstreamer-1.0:amd64 1.10.0-2 -> 1.8.3-1
[DOWNGRADE] gstreamer1.0-libav:amd64 1.10.0-1 -> 1.8.3-1
[DOWNGRADE] gstreamer1.0-plugins-bad:amd64 1.10.0-1 -> 1.8.3-1+b3
[DOWNGRADE] gstreamer1.0-plugins-base:amd64 1.10.0-1 -> 1.8.3-1
[DOWNGRADE] gstreamer1.0-plugins-good:amd64 1.10.0-1 -> 1.8.3-1+b1
[DOWNGRADE] gstreamer1.0-plugins-ugly:amd64 1.10.0-1 -> 1.8.3-1
[DOWNGRADE] gstreamer1.0-x:amd64 1.10.0-1 -> 1.8.3-1
[DOWNGRADE] libges-1.0-0:amd64 1.10.0-1 -> 1.8.3-1
[DOWNGRADE] libgstreamer-plugins-bad1.0-0:amd64 1.10.0-1 -> 1.8.3-1+b3
[DOWNGRADE] libgstreamer-plugins-base1.0-0:amd64 1.10.0-1 -> 1.8.3-1
[DOWNGRADE] libgstreamer1.0-0:amd64 1.10.0-2 -> 1.8.3-1
[DOWNGRADE] python3-gst-1.0:amd64 1.10.0-1 -> 1.8.3-1


the sounds in Pidgin are played smoothly as before.

I did not notice any problem to play media file using gst123 with
gstreamer 1.10.

If this is the same problem as Tonys - I don't know.

I installed using source line
 deb http://snapshot.debian.org/archive/debian/20161031T214344Z/ sid main
and
 aptitude -oAcquire::Check-Valid-Until=0

-- 
Zito



Re: Chromium fatally broken

2016-11-08 Thread Curt
On 2016-11-08, Cindy-Sue Causey  wrote:
>
> Hi, Curt.. I can't give you insight on the error because(y) mine's
> working ok. Sounded at least slightly familiar so I quick searched my
> inbox. Got 2 emails that I then searched the Net and found you
> these...
>
> https://www.debian.org/security/2016/dsa-3688

Hello. Apparently chromium is no longer supported in Wheezy for the near
and distant future. And that, as they say in French, explains that.

Thank you.

-- 
“It is enough that the arrows fit exactly in the wounds that they have made.”
Franz Kafka



Re: Chromium fatally broken

2016-11-08 Thread Curt
On 2016-11-08, david...@freevolt.org  wrote:
>
>> Package: chromium-browser
>
>> Security support for the chromium web browser is now discontinued
>> for the stable distribution (wheezy).  Chromium upstream stopped
>> supporting wheezy's build environment (gcc 4.7, make, etc.), so
>> there is no longer any practical way to continue building security
>> updates.
>> [...]
>

Thank you. I didn't think of exploring that angle of my problem.

-- 
“It is enough that the arrows fit exactly in the wounds that they have made.”
Franz Kafka



Re: parted is ALMOST suitable

2016-11-08 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Feel free to weight in ;-)
   ^^^
No idea where this `t` came from,


Stefan



Re: can't reboot

2016-11-08 Thread Tony Baldwin



On 11/08/2016 02:57 PM, Anthony Baldwin wrote:

I've been hvaving trouble for over a month, I can't boot the same system
twice.
I replaced a hardrive because it was suggested the problem was a hard drive,
but now, with a brand spanking new hard drive, any time Ihave to halt
the system and boot it back up.
 end up waiting an hour for the 2TB disk to be fscked, and then get
dumped to a root terminal.
The last time, 17 days ago, I believe, I managed to get the new HDD to
boot after multiple fsckings with gparted from a live disk, which I'm
about to repeat,
so i can get back into the system I've been building, customizing, and
installing all my favourite dev tools and stuff on for almost 3 weeks
Just now, trying to reboot, the only thing that looked amiss before the
fscking and root prompt,
was something about failure to load kernel modules, whereas on prior
attempts, the only errors I could see
were about corrupted file systems, which would explain all the fscking,
perhaps.
The system fscked itself after the module failure notice, too..
I'm hoping some fskcking will get me back up.
But Aiḿ getting real tired of goint through this stuff everytime I need
to reboot.
What happens when there's a power failure? I have to waste half the next
day doing multiple fsckings?
Preposterous.
I swear I've never had mor e trouble with Debian than I keep having with
Jessie/Systemd.
troubles mounting my android phone, trouble with sound suddenly deciding
not to work, and
complete failure to reboot. It's dismaying ,disheartening, and infuriating.
"Stable" used to mean "rock-solid"If I have to reinstall one more time,
I'm likely to install fedora or something.

Happilly, after 3 fsckings 9(and only sacrificing 1 chicken 0 goats), I 
got her to reboot(and my sound is back on, as already mentioned on that 
particular thread)


--
http://tonybaldwin.me
all tony, all the time



Re: sound disappeared

2016-11-08 Thread Brian
On Tue 08 Nov 2016 at 21:05:50 +0100, Václav Ovsík wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> On Tue, Nov 08, 2016 at 11:04:23AM -0500, Tony Baldwin wrote:
> > Yesterday, I was listening to music with mocp, and watching videos on YT
> > Without issue, and today, for no apparent reason, I've lost all sound.
> > I can't hear modp, smplayer, vlc, youtube, nothing.
> > I checked alsamixer and pavucontrol, nothing is muted.
> > 
> > What happened?
> 
> hmm, I have some issues with audio too. I hear no sounds of Pidgin IM
> client or cutted very short clips.
> I think this it is within last pulseaudio upgrade
> 
> Aptitude 0.8.3: log report
> Mon, Nov  7 2016 16:28:03 +0100
> ...
> [UPGRADE] libpulse-dev:amd64 9.0-4 -> 9.0-5
> [UPGRADE] libpulse-mainloop-glib0:amd64 9.0-4 -> 9.0-5
> [UPGRADE] libpulse0:amd64 9.0-4 -> 9.0-5
> [UPGRADE] libpulsedsp:amd64 9.0-4 -> 9.0-5
> ...
> [UPGRADE] pulseaudio-utils:amd64 9.0-4 -> 9.0-5

Don't be worried too much. In spite of your almost lack of information
and no technical contribution to the OP's post, someone could be along
later to solve *your* problem

-- 
Brian.



Re: sound disappeared

2016-11-08 Thread Tony Baldwin



On 11/08/2016 02:39 PM, Ric Moore wrote:

On 11/08/2016 01:49 PM, Anthony Baldwin wrote:



On 11/08/2016 01:22 PM, Alberto Luaces wrote:

Tony Baldwin writes:


looks like
Built-in Audio Analog Stereo Line Out (plugged in)
Here's a screen-shot of pavucontrol:

http://tonybaldwin.me/images/pavucontrol110816124906.jpg



Analog Line Out for me as well, so that part could be covered.



what you can see is line above "advanced"moving up and down (okay,
really right and left) with the doom metal I have playing (but can't
hear).

It should be known that I still had sound yesterday after installing
ripperx, for hours, right up to 11 pm last night (looks like I had
installed it around 12pmish, 11 hours earlier), but when I logged in
at 6am this morning I had no sound


Are you by chance using etckeeper?  You could inspect configuration
changes with it.


never even heard of it, had to do aptitude search and show to learn what
it is even.
I suppose it's probably too late (as far as diagnosing this current
problem anyway) to install it now...
perhaps I should install it for future uses.
I hthink I may try and boot to a live system and see what happens as
Lisi suggested,
I'm going to assume some change affected by aptitude activity in the
past 24 hours is most likely to blame, and really hope it's not my
mobo's on-board audio.
I have a spare video card in my desk, but no audio card.
Going through all the hassle of finding one compatible with my hardware
and system is a little more involved then fixing a software issue.
I think just about any PCI sound card should work with Debian, and my
hardware, though, unless I'm mistaken. I have a couple open PCI slots.

I really need to hear my Opeth (Swedish Death Metal!! \m/ ) now, for
workout time, and I'm bummed.


I had a bunch of trouble with my sound system for awhile, running sid. I
had to use alsamixer several times before pulse would behave. I could
boot to my xubuntu partition and had no problems. So, I hold my nose and
spend more time there. :) Ric




I got the system back up! and am listening to Opeth again now(meaning, 
yes, that I HAVE SOUND BACK)! still no idea why I'd lost it, though.


./tony
bash: ./tony: No such file or directory

But I'm right here! honest!
bash: ./but: No such file or directory

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http://tonybaldwin.me
all tony, all the time



Re: parted is ALMOST suitable

2016-11-08 Thread Brian
On Tue 08 Nov 2016 at 14:41:45 -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote:

> >>> *HOWEVER* parted requires root privileges. That is not acceptable.
> >>> Suggestions?
> >>> TIA
> > Futzing with partitions is the admin's job.
> 
> Could be, but it's not (g)parted's job to enforce these kinds of rules:
> that's what Unix permissions (and Linux's capabilities) are for.
> 
> It's OK to add a warning and prompt the user to make sure he really
> means to do that, but there's no point *preventing* the user from
> shooting his own foot with this tool if he can do it with other
> tools anyway.

Users here get no opportunity to shoot themselves or anyone else in the
foot. Access to raw disks is over my dead body. So I do not understand
your point.

-- 
Brian.



Re: Strange Problem with 'alias'

2016-11-08 Thread Michael Milliman
On Tue, 2016-11-08 at 15:04 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 08, 2016 at 02:37:34PM -0500, Henning wrote:
> > Put your aliases into .bash_ptofile
> 
> No, don't do that.  Make your login shell profile source or dot in
> ~/.bashrc instead.
> 
Ok, now I have to ask the queston, maybe a tangent and maybe not
important to OP, but why is it better to source in .bashrc from .profile
rather than putting the commands in .bash_profile??

-- 
73s de WB5VQX



Re: sound disappeared

2016-11-08 Thread Václav Ovsík
Hi,

On Tue, Nov 08, 2016 at 11:04:23AM -0500, Tony Baldwin wrote:
> Yesterday, I was listening to music with mocp, and watching videos on YT
> Without issue, and today, for no apparent reason, I've lost all sound.
> I can't hear modp, smplayer, vlc, youtube, nothing.
> I checked alsamixer and pavucontrol, nothing is muted.
> 
> What happened?

hmm, I have some issues with audio too. I hear no sounds of Pidgin IM
client or cutted very short clips.
I think this it is within last pulseaudio upgrade

Aptitude 0.8.3: log report
Mon, Nov  7 2016 16:28:03 +0100
...
[UPGRADE] libpulse-dev:amd64 9.0-4 -> 9.0-5
[UPGRADE] libpulse-mainloop-glib0:amd64 9.0-4 -> 9.0-5
[UPGRADE] libpulse0:amd64 9.0-4 -> 9.0-5
[UPGRADE] libpulsedsp:amd64 9.0-4 -> 9.0-5
...
[UPGRADE] pulseaudio-utils:amd64 9.0-4 -> 9.0-5
...

-- 
Zito



Re: Strange Problem with 'alias'

2016-11-08 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Nov 08, 2016 at 02:37:34PM -0500, Henning wrote:
> Put your aliases into .bash_ptofile

No, don't do that.  Make your login shell profile source or dot in
~/.bashrc instead.



Re: Strange Problem with 'alias'

2016-11-08 Thread Henning


> On Nov 8, 2016, at 2:01 PM, S. P. Molnar  wrote:
> 
> I am running Debian v-8.5.0 with the bash shell and a number of alias's 
> defined.
> 
> For example alias l='ls -l --color'
> 
> When I boot the system none of the definitions of alias in .bashrc are 
> active.  That is until I open a terminal and input source .bashrc.  So far, 
> so good alias works - in that terminal!  If I open a tab in the same terminal 
> the alias's are gone!!!
> 
> I keep the system up to date.
> 
> Is this fatal?  NO  Very annoying? YES
> 
> I  don't have the faintest idea as to what is going on.
> 
> A solyutio to this problem, short of a new installation of the OS, will be 
> very appreciated.  Thanks in advance.
> 
> 


There is a difference between login shell and interactive shell.

Put your aliases into .bash_ptofile
> 



Re: sound disappeared

2016-11-08 Thread Anthony Baldwin

 
 
 

Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2016 at 7:28 PM
From: Joe 
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: sound disappeared

On Tue, 8 Nov 2016 13:49:14 -0500
Anthony Baldwin  wrote:


>
> I really need to hear my Opeth (Swedish Death Metal!! \m/ ) now, for
> workout time, and I'm bummed.
>

Boot a live CD, then.

When this happens to me, it's because I have more than one sound
device, and the coin lands on a different side one day and another
one is designated the default.

There is allegedly a way to prevent this happening, but it is
sufficiently involved (nothing as simple as adding a string to a
configuration file, or ticking a GUI box) that I can't be bothered,
because I'll have to learn how to do it again in a different way in
another six months. Sound under Linux is a moving target.

If you have more than one sound device (if you have an HDMI socket,
there is a sound device associated with that) try:

Have a look in /proc/asound/cards to find the current card order.

Look in /etc/asound.conf to see if the xxx.!default options match what
your speakers are connected to. If you don't have this file you might
try creating it. Mine looks like:

pcm.!default {
type hw
card 0
}

ctl.!default {
type hw
card 0
}

Currently the card designated 0 is the one I want to use, out of three.
But the numbering might change tomorrow.
 
I  have only one sound device/card, it's onboard the mobo.
Thanks for chiming in, though.

Tony
--
http://www.tonybaldwin.me
All Tony, all the time!



Re: Subject=Re: Re: Third Monitor Stopped Working

2016-11-08 Thread deloptes
Barak A. Pearlmutter wrote:

> [ 621.721] (EE) modeset(0): failed to set mode: No space left on device

self explaining



Re: sound disappeared

2016-11-08 Thread Joe
On Tue, 8 Nov 2016 13:49:14 -0500
Anthony Baldwin  wrote:


> 
> I really need to hear my Opeth (Swedish Death Metal!! \m/ ) now, for 
> workout time, and I'm bummed.
> 

Boot a live CD, then.

When this happens to me, it's because I have more than one sound
device, and the coin lands on a different side one day and another
one is designated the default.

There is allegedly a way to prevent this happening, but it is
sufficiently involved (nothing as simple as adding a string to a
configuration file, or ticking a GUI box) that I can't be bothered,
because I'll have to learn how to do it again in a different way in
another six months. Sound under Linux is a moving target.

If you have more than one sound device (if you have an HDMI socket,
there is a sound device associated with that) try:

Have a look in /proc/asound/cards to find the current card order.

Look in /etc/asound.conf to see if the xxx.!default options match what
your speakers are connected to. If you don't have this file you might
try creating it. Mine looks like:

pcm.!default {
type hw
card 0
}

ctl.!default {
type hw   
card 0
}

Currently the card designated 0 is the one I want to use, out of three.
But the numbering might change tomorrow.

-- 
Joe



Re: sound disappeared

2016-11-08 Thread Anthony Baldwin

p

On 11/08/2016 01:29 PM, Alberto Luaces wrote:

Alberto Luaces writes:


Tony Baldwin writes:


looks like
Built-in Audio Analog Stereo Line Out (plugged in)
Here's a screen-shot of pavucontrol:

http://tonybaldwin.me/images/pavucontrol110816124906.jpg



Analog Line Out for me as well, so that part could be covered.



By the way: in pavucontrol, when you play music, can you see the name of
the program playing and a moving sound bar in the "playback" tab?


I did
pulseaudio --dump-modules -v > pavumods.txt

and in there, I find:
Name: module-detect
Version: 5.0
Description: Detect available audio hardware and load matching drivers
Author: Lennart Poettering
Usage: just-one=
Load Once: yes
DEPRECATION WARNING: Please use module-udev-detect instead of module-detect!
Path: /usr/lib/pulse-5.0/modules/module-detect

I don't know where/how to acquire and enable module-udev-detect.\
an aptitude search for it shows nothing, I can only assume it comes with 
some other pkg.


I also find another warning:
Name: module-combine
Version: 5.0
Description: Compatibility module (module-combine rename)
Author: Colin Guthrie
Load Once: no
DEPRECATION WARNING: Please use module-combine-sink instead of 
module-combine!

Path: /usr/lib/pulse-5.0/modules/module-combine

and have the same issue, an aptitude search for module-combine produces 
no result.







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Re: Correction - Re: parted is ALMOST suitable

2016-11-08 Thread Brian
On Tue 08 Nov 2016 at 05:19:15 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:

> On 11/8/2016 4:58 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:
> >[snip]
> >
> >Actually I now have two options, "udevadm info" and "/sbin/blkid".
> >>From Brian's comment on bug #776905, in future releases "blkid"
> >may be an option.
> 
> I'll have to modify that. Brian has stated in another sub-thread:
> >...  When blkid is run as root it creates the file
> >/run/blkid/blkid.tab. A user running blkid only gets to see the contents
> >of blkid.tab. There is no change to blkid.tab unless the command is run
> >by root again. This makes /sbin/blkid useless as a user command for the
> >purposes discussed in this thread.

I probably gave the impression somewhere in this narrative that blkid as
non-root was ok. It isn't; apologies. On Jessie you basically have only
the single choice of udevadm. But it is still a win. :)

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Re: Strange Problem with 'alias'

2016-11-08 Thread S. P. Molnar


On 11/08/2016 02:01 PM, S. P. Molnar wrote:
I am running Debian v-8.5.0 with the bash shell and a number of 
alias's defined.


For example alias l='ls -l --color'

When I boot the system none of the definitions of alias in .bashrc are 
active.  That is until I open a terminal and input source .bashrc.  So 
far, so good alias works - in that terminal!  If I open a tab in the 
same terminal the alias's are gone!!!


I keep the system up to date.

Is this fatal?  NO  Very annoying? YES

I  don't have the faintest idea as to what is going on.

A solyutio to this problem, short of a new installation of the OS, 
will be very appreciated.  Thanks in advance.


An addendum to the above.  It would appear to be xfce5-terminal at 
fault.  If I use UXTerm or XTermthe alias definitions are active.


Reinstalling xfce4-terminal generated the messages:


(synaptic:14233): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_child_watch_add_full: assertion 
'pid > 0' failed

(Reading database ... 243321 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to unpack .../xfce4-terminal_0.6.3-1+b1_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking xfce4-terminal (0.6.3-1+b1) over (0.6.3-1+b1) ...
Processing triggers for gnome-menus (3.13.3-6) ...
Processing triggers for desktop-file-utils (0.22-1) ...
Processing triggers for mime-support (3.58) ...
Processing triggers for man-db (2.7.0.2-5) ...
Setting up jre1.8.0-112 (1.8.0112-1) ...
Error: unpack200 - command could not be found.

Please refer to the Troubleshooting section of theInstallation Instructions
on the download page.
/var/lib/dpkg/info/jre1.8.0-112.postinst: line 641: 
/usr/sbin/alternatives: No such file or directory

dpkg: error processing package jre1.8.0-112 (--configure):
 subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit 
status 127

Setting up xfce4-terminal (0.6.3-1+b1) ...
Errors were encountered while processing:
 jre1.8.0-112
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
A package failed to install.  Trying to recover:
Setting up jre1.8.0-112 (1.8.0112-1) ...
Error: unpack200 - command could not be found.

Please refer to the Troubleshooting section of theInstallation Instructions
on the download page.
/var/lib/dpkg/info/jre1.8.0-112.postinst: line 641: 
/usr/sbin/alternatives: No such file or directory

dpkg: error processing package jre1.8.0-112 (--configure):
 subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit 
status 127

Errors were encountered while processing:
 jre1.8.0-112

Synaptic gives me the following message:

E: jre1.8.0-112: subprocess installed post-installation script returned 
error exit status 127


Solution(s) please?

Again, thanks in advance.

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Re: apt-get changelog is unsuccessful, but changelog exists

2016-11-08 Thread Brian
On Mon 07 Nov 2016 at 18:17:05 -0600, David Wright wrote:

> On Mon 07 Nov 2016 at 23:24:31 (+), Brian wrote:
> > On Mon 07 Nov 2016 at 14:20:57 -0600, David Wright wrote:
> > 
> > > On Mon 07 Nov 2016 at 19:40:00 (+), Brian wrote:
> > > > On Mon 07 Nov 2016 at 08:18:17 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > On Sat, Nov 05, 2016 at 08:25:02PM +, david...@freevolt.org wrote:
> > > > > > On Sat, 5 Nov 2016, Brian wrote:
> > > > > > >Wheezy is an unsupported distribution, just like hamm, etch, 
> > > > > > >potato etc.
> > > > > > >Irrespective of whether it was thought to be wonderful in its day 
> > > > > > >it is
> > > > > > >now moribund apart from LTS.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > We seem to have different understandings of what LTS stands for.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Interesting.
> > > > > 
> > > > > At least remember what the "S" stands for (Brian).
> > > > 
> > > > Noted. Also note that support from all those Wheezy users here wasn't
> > > > exactly rampant.
> > > 
> > > What are we to get rampant about? The OP posted a workaround right
> > > there in the OP, and glossed it in a follow-up.
> > > 
> > > Most of the thread appears to have discussed the opinion expressed in
> > > your first paragraph.
> > 
> > Something for people to get their teeth into. From the first post:
> > 
> >  > apt-get changelog libxslt1.1
> >  > Err Changelog for libxslt1.1 
> > (http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/updates/main/libx/libxslt/libxslt_1.1.26-14.1+deb7u2/changelog)
> >  > 404  Not Found [IP: 5.153.231.3 80]
> > 
> > On my machine:
> > 
> >  brian@desktop:~$ lynx 
> > http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/updates/main/
> >   The requested URL /changelogs/updates/main was not found 
> > on this server.
> > 
> > What does the workabout compensate for?
> 
> The 404. https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2016/11/msg00098.html step 8.

The idea of a workabout getting a file which doesn't exist is an
interesting one. :)

Leaving that aside, what 'apt-get changelog' is doing and why is also
interesting. Commenting out the "security" line could have a different
outcome. (Wheezy or not).

-- 
Brian.


> 
> Cheers,
> David.
> 



Re: sound disappeared

2016-11-08 Thread Anthony Baldwin



On 11/08/2016 01:29 PM, Alberto Luaces wrote:

Alberto Luaces writes:


Tony Baldwin writes:


looks like
Built-in Audio Analog Stereo Line Out (plugged in)
Here's a screen-shot of pavucontrol:

http://tonybaldwin.me/images/pavucontrol110816124906.jpg



Analog Line Out for me as well, so that part could be covered.



By the way: in pavucontrol, when you play music, can you see the name of
the program playing and a moving sound bar in the "playback" tab?


I do, it shows
ALSA plug-in [mocp]: ALSA Playback,
and the bar below the channel volume controls fluctuates with the audio 
supposedly playing.


./tony


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Re: sound disappeared

2016-11-08 Thread Anthony Baldwin



On 11/08/2016 01:22 PM, Alberto Luaces wrote:

Tony Baldwin writes:


looks like
Built-in Audio Analog Stereo Line Out (plugged in)
Here's a screen-shot of pavucontrol:

http://tonybaldwin.me/images/pavucontrol110816124906.jpg



Analog Line Out for me as well, so that part could be covered.



what you can see is line above "advanced"moving up and down (okay,
really right and left) with the doom metal I have playing (but can't
hear).

It should be known that I still had sound yesterday after installing
ripperx, for hours, right up to 11 pm last night (looks like I had
installed it around 12pmish, 11 hours earlier), but when I logged in
at 6am this morning I had no sound


Are you by chance using etckeeper?  You could inspect configuration
changes with it.


never even heard of it, had to do aptitude search and show to learn what 
it is even.
I suppose it's probably too late (as far as diagnosing this current 
problem anyway) to install it now...

perhaps I should install it for future uses.
I hthink I may try and boot to a live system and see what happens as 
Lisi suggested,
I'm going to assume some change affected by aptitude activity in the 
past 24 hours is most likely to blame, and really hope it's not my 
mobo's on-board audio.

I have a spare video card in my desk, but no audio card.
Going through all the hassle of finding one compatible with my hardware 
and system is a little more involved then fixing a software issue.
I think just about any PCI sound card should work with Debian, and my 
hardware, though, unless I'm mistaken. I have a couple open PCI slots.


I really need to hear my Opeth (Swedish Death Metal!! \m/ ) now, for 
workout time, and I'm bummed.


Thanks,
Tony




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Strange Problem with 'alias'

2016-11-08 Thread S. P. Molnar
I am running Debian v-8.5.0 with the bash shell and a number of alias's 
defined.


For example alias l='ls -l --color'

When I boot the system none of the definitions of alias in .bashrc are 
active.  That is until I open a terminal and input source .bashrc.  So 
far, so good alias works - in that terminal!  If I open a tab in the 
same terminal the alias's are gone!!!


I keep the system up to date.

Is this fatal?  NO  Very annoying? YES

I  don't have the faintest idea as to what is going on.

A solyutio to this problem, short of a new installation of the OS, will 
be very appreciated.  Thanks in advance.


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Re: parted is ALMOST suitable

2016-11-08 Thread Brian
On Tue 08 Nov 2016 at 06:40:26 -0600, David Wright wrote:

> On Tue 08 Nov 2016 at 04:58:05 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote:
> > On 11/7/2016 8:36 PM, Michael Lange wrote:
> [...]
> > >I think that the command Brian suggested:
> > >
> > >  udevadm info --query=property --name=/dev/sda1 | grep ID_FS_TYPE
> > >
> > >used with every partition that is returned by
> > >
> > >   cat /proc/partitions
> > >
> > >might be a good option for the OP.
> > 
> > Actually I now have two options, "udevadm info" and "/sbin/blkid".
> > >From Brian's comment on bug #776905, in future releases "blkid"
> > may be an option.
> 
> You may find useful information in /run/udev/data/b8:0 etc
> without having to run any commands yourself. These files stay
> up to date as devices are plugged/unplugged.

I thought so too, but went off the idea when trying to figure out which
device was which and script it. udevadm (and lsblk) gets it information
from /run/udev/data/ anyway.

-- 
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Re: sound disappeared

2016-11-08 Thread Alberto Luaces
Tony Baldwin writes:

> looks like
> Built-in Audio Analog Stereo Line Out (plugged in)
> Here's a screen-shot of pavucontrol:
>
> http://tonybaldwin.me/images/pavucontrol110816124906.jpg
>

Analog Line Out for me as well, so that part could be covered.

>
> what you can see is line above "advanced"moving up and down (okay,
> really right and left) with the doom metal I have playing (but can't
> hear).
>
> It should be known that I still had sound yesterday after installing
> ripperx, for hours, right up to 11 pm last night (looks like I had
> installed it around 12pmish, 11 hours earlier), but when I logged in
> at 6am this morning I had no sound

Are you by chance using etckeeper?  You could inspect configuration
changes with it.

-- 
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Re: parted is ALMOST suitable

2016-11-08 Thread Glenn English

> On Mon, Nov 07, 2016 at 06:11:50AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:
>> *HOWEVER* parted requires root privileges. That is not acceptable.
>> Suggestions?
>> TIA

Futzing with partitions is the admin's job. fdisk also want's root (or sudo). 
You want some user poking around in the disk(s)?

-- 
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Re: sound disappeared

2016-11-08 Thread Tony Baldwin



On 11/08/2016 12:06 PM, Alberto Luaces wrote:

Anthony Baldwin writes:


On 11/08/2016 11:04 AM, Tony Baldwin wrote:

Yesterday, I was listening to music with mocp, and watching videos on YT
Without issue, and today, for no apparent reason, I've lost all sound.
I can't hear modp, smplayer, vlc, youtube, nothing.
I checked alsamixer and pavucontrol, nothing is muted.


Someone is going to ask, so:
yes, the speakers are plugged in and appropriately powered.
I am right now listening to music from my phone using the same
speakers, plugged into the phone.
They were plugged into the mobo's onboard audio before I unplugged
them from there and plugged them into my phone.
Nothing has changed on the hardware since I was last listening to sound.
I haven't made any relevant/significant software changes either.
I've also tried to plug some earbuds into the on-board audio, and can't
hear anything through those, either. so the problem can't be the
speakers.



It happens to me that after a reboot the output of PulseAudio is being
redirected to a digital output, which I cannot hear.  Unplugging and
plugging again my speakers makes the thing discover again the analog
output and solves the issue, but I see you have already plugged and
unplugged several speakers.

I would nevertheless inspect pavucontrol to see which output is active.


looks like
Built-in Audio Analog Stereo Line Out (plugged in)
Here's a screen-shot of pavucontrol:

http://tonybaldwin.me/images/pavucontrol110816124906.jpg

what you can  see is line above  "advanced"moving up and down (okay, 
really right and left) with the doom metal I have playing (but can't hear).


It should be known that I still had sound yesterday after installing 
ripperx, for hours, right up to 11 pm last night (looks like I had 
installed it around 12pmish, 11 hours earlier), but when I logged in at 
6am this morning I had no sound



Thanks,
Tony

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Re: Chromium fatally broken

2016-11-08 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 11/8/16, Curt  wrote:
> Anyone seeing this behavior?
>
> [8679:8702:1108/173355:ERROR:nss_util.cc(856)] After loading Root Certs,
> loaded==false: NSS error code: -8018
> [8679:8679:1108/173355:ERROR:desktop_window_tree_host_x11.cc(1478)] Not
> implemented reached in void
> views::DesktopWindowTreeHostX11::MapWindow(ui::WindowShowState)
> [5:5:1108/173355:ERROR:nss_util.cc(211)] Error initializing NSS without a
> persistent database: NSS error code: -8023
> [5:5:1108/173355:FATAL:nss_util.cc(213)] nss_error=-8023, os_error=0
> [7:7:1108/173356:ERROR:nss_util.cc(211)] Error initializing NSS without a
> persistent database: NSS error code: -8023
> [7:7:1108/173356:FATAL:nss_util.cc(213)] nss_error=-8023, os_error=0
>
> Or is it just a Wheezy idiosyncrasy and completely irrelevant to modern day
> concerns?


Hi, Curt.. I can't give you insight on the error because(y) mine's
working ok. Sounded at least slightly familiar so I quick searched my
inbox. Got 2 emails that I then searched the Net and found you
these...

https://www.debian.org/security/2016/dsa-3688

"Debian Security Advisory [k/t Debian-Security list]

DSA-3688-1 nss -- security update
Date Reported: 05 Oct 2016
Affected Packages: nss
Vulnerable: Yes"

https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2016/11/msg00136.html

It's recent Debian-User, and Wheezy gets a mention..

Hope that helps at least a little.. :)

Cindy :)

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Re: Third Monitor Stopped Working

2016-11-08 Thread Felix Miata

Barak A. Pearlmutter composed on 2016-11-08 11:00 (UTC):


I have three monitors, two 4K and one 1920x1200, all lined up
horizontally: [4k][4k][1920x1200].  This configuration worked fine
until I upgraded to stretch (testing) a few weeks ago.  Now only the two
4k monitors are usable, the third is off (by default) or if I force it
on using xrandr it just mirrors.


...

(a) What happened?  Is this due to wayland?  Is this a regression?  Should I 
report a bug?

...

The two 4k displays are daisy-chained on a displayport output, the
1920x1200 is on a VGA connector.

...

$ dpkg --status xserver-xorg-video-intel | egrep Version:
Version: 2:2.99.917+git20160706-1

...

$ lspci  | egrep VGA
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen 
Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 06)...


You didn't report whether it is actually the Intel driver being used. You may 
be either needing the modesetting driver, or using it but needing the Intel 
driver.


http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ubuntu-Debian-Abandon-Intel-DDX

It might be more fruitful to report the problem on the 
intel-...@lists.freedesktop.org and/or x...@freedesktop.org and/or 
wayland-b...@lists.freedesktop.org mailing lists.

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Re: sound disappeared

2016-11-08 Thread Anthony Baldwin



On 11/08/2016 11:48 AM, Tony Baldwin wrote:



On 11/08/2016 11:17 AM, Anthony Baldwin wrote:



On 11/08/2016 11:04 AM, Tony Baldwin wrote:

Yesterday, I was listening to music with mocp, and watching videos on YT
Without issue, and today, for no apparent reason, I've lost all sound.
I can't hear modp, smplayer, vlc, youtube, nothing.
I checked alsamixer and pavucontrol, nothing is muted.


Someone is going to ask, so:
yes, the speakers are plugged in and appropriately powered.
I am right now listening to music from my phone using the same speakers,
plugged into the phone.
They were plugged into the mobo's onboard audio before I unplugged them
from there and plugged them into my phone.
Nothing has changed on the hardware since I was last listening to sound.
I haven't made any relevant/significant software changes either.
I've also tried to plu some earbuds into the on-board audio, and can't
hear anything through those, either. so the problem can't be the
speakers.



What happened?


Okay, I take it back, I must have installed something yesterday but do
not recall what.
all I get for yesterday from /var/log/aptitude is this


Wait...I sent log material from 06/11 (two days ago, not yesterday).
I installed ripperx ysterday, and this is the relevant aptitude log 
stuff here:


Log complete.
Aptitude 0.6.11: log report
Mon, Nov  7 2016 07:49:45 -0500

IMPORTANT: this log only lists intended actions; actions which fail due to
dpkg problems may not be completed.

Will install 0 packages, and remove 0 packages.
===
[HOLD, DEPENDENCIES] libavcodec57:amd64
[HOLD, DEPENDENCIES] libavdevice57:amd64
[HOLD, DEPENDENCIES] libavfilter6:amd64
[HOLD, DEPENDENCIES] libavformat57:amd64
[HOLD, DEPENDENCIES] libavresample3:amd64
[HOLD, DEPENDENCIES] libavutil55:amd64
[HOLD, DEPENDENCIES] libbind9-90:amd64
[HOLD, DEPENDENCIES] libcurl3:amd64
[HOLD, DEPENDENCIES] libcurl3-gnutls:amd64
[HOLD, DEPENDENCIES] libdns100:amd64
[HOLD, DEPENDENCIES] libisc95:amd64
[HOLD, DEPENDENCIES] libisccc90:amd64
[HOLD, DEPENDENCIES] libisccfg90:amd64
[HOLD, DEPENDENCIES] liblwres90:amd64
[HOLD, DEPENDENCIES] libpostproc54:amd64
[HOLD, DEPENDENCIES] libswresample2:amd64
[HOLD, DEPENDENCIES] libswscale4:amd64
[HOLD] bind9-host:amd64
[HOLD] curl:amd64
[HOLD] dnsutils:amd64
[HOLD] ffmpeg:amd64
[HOLD] google-chrome-stable:amd64
[HOLD] host:amd64
[HOLD] libdns-export100:amd64
[HOLD] libirs-export91:amd64
[HOLD] libisc-export95:amd64
[HOLD] libisccfg-export90:amd64
[HOLD] tar:amd64
===

Log complete.
Aptitude 0.6.11: log report
Mon, Nov  7 2016 11:59:30 -0500

IMPORTANT: this log only lists intended actions; actions which fail due to
dpkg problems may not be completed.

Will install 3 packages, and remove 0 packages.
1,614 kB of disk space will be used
===
[HOLD, DEPENDENCIES] libavcodec57:amd64
[HOLD, DEPENDENCIES] libavdevice57:amd64
[HOLD, DEPENDENCIES] libavfilter6:amd64
[HOLD, DEPENDENCIES] libavformat57:amd64
[HOLD, DEPENDENCIES] libavresample3:amd64
[HOLD, DEPENDENCIES] libavutil55:amd64
[HOLD, DEPENDENCIES] libbind9-90:amd64
[HOLD, DEPENDENCIES] libcurl3:amd64
[HOLD, DEPENDENCIES] libcurl3-gnutls:amd64
[HOLD, DEPENDENCIES] libdns100:amd64
[HOLD, DEPENDENCIES] libisc95:amd64
[HOLD, DEPENDENCIES] libisccc90:amd64
[HOLD, DEPENDENCIES] libisccfg90:amd64
[HOLD, DEPENDENCIES] liblwres90:amd64
[HOLD, DEPENDENCIES] libpostproc54:amd64
[HOLD, DEPENDENCIES] libswresample2:amd64
[HOLD, DEPENDENCIES] libswscale4:amd64
[INSTALL, DEPENDENCIES] cdparanoia:amd64
[INSTALL, DEPENDENCIES] vorbis-tools:amd64
[HOLD] bind9-host:amd64
[HOLD] curl:amd64
[HOLD] dnsutils:amd64
[HOLD] ffmpeg:amd64
[HOLD] google-chrome-stable:amd64
[HOLD] host:amd64
[HOLD] libdns-export100:amd64
[HOLD] libirs-export91:amd64
[HOLD] libisc-export95:amd64
[HOLD] libisccfg-export90:amd64
[HOLD] tar:amd64
[INSTALL] ripperx:amd64
===



I removed pidgin-skype-common, and there's been no change.

Tony



TIA
Tony






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Re: sound disappeared

2016-11-08 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 08 November 2016 16:17:20 Anthony Baldwin wrote:
> I've also tried to plu some earbuds into the on-board audio, and can't
> hear anything through those, either. so the problem can't be the speakers.

But it could be the on-board audio.  Have you tried with a Live CD?

Lisi



Re: sound disappeared

2016-11-08 Thread Tony Baldwin



On 11/08/2016 11:17 AM, Anthony Baldwin wrote:



On 11/08/2016 11:04 AM, Tony Baldwin wrote:

Yesterday, I was listening to music with mocp, and watching videos on YT
Without issue, and today, for no apparent reason, I've lost all sound.
I can't hear modp, smplayer, vlc, youtube, nothing.
I checked alsamixer and pavucontrol, nothing is muted.


Someone is going to ask, so:
yes, the speakers are plugged in and appropriately powered.
I am right now listening to music from my phone using the same speakers,
plugged into the phone.
They were plugged into the mobo's onboard audio before I unplugged them
from there and plugged them into my phone.
Nothing has changed on the hardware since I was last listening to sound.
I haven't made any relevant/significant software changes either.
I've also tried to plu some earbuds into the on-board audio, and can't
hear anything through those, either. so the problem can't be the speakers.



What happened?


Okay, I take it back, I must have installed something yesterday but do 
not recall what.

all I get for yesterday from /var/log/aptitude is this

[INSTALL] pidgin-skype-common:amd64
===

Log complete.
Aptitude 0.6.11: log report
Sun, Nov  6 2016 12:07:26 -0500

IMPORTANT: this log only lists intended actions; actions which fail due to
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aptitude

I removed pidgin-skype-common, and there's been no change.

Tony



TIA
Tony




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Re: sound disappeared

2016-11-08 Thread Anthony Baldwin



On 11/08/2016 11:04 AM, Tony Baldwin wrote:

Yesterday, I was listening to music with mocp, and watching videos on YT
Without issue, and today, for no apparent reason, I've lost all sound.
I can't hear modp, smplayer, vlc, youtube, nothing.
I checked alsamixer and pavucontrol, nothing is muted.


Someone is going to ask, so:
yes, the speakers are plugged in and appropriately powered.
I am right now listening to music from my phone using the same speakers, 
plugged into the phone.
They were plugged into the mobo's onboard audio before I unplugged them 
from there and plugged them into my phone.

Nothing has changed on the hardware since I was last listening to sound.
I haven't made any relevant/significant software changes either.
I've also tried to plu some earbuds into the on-board audio, and can't 
hear anything through those, either. so the problem can't be the speakers.




What happened?

TIA
Tony


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sound disappeared

2016-11-08 Thread Tony Baldwin
Yesterday, I was listening to music with mocp, and watching videos on YT 
Without issue, and today, for no apparent reason, I've lost all sound.

I can't hear modp, smplayer, vlc, youtube, nothing.
I checked alsamixer and pavucontrol, nothing is muted.

What happened?

TIA
Tony
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Subject=Re: Re: Third Monitor Stopped Working

2016-11-08 Thread Barak A. Pearlmutter
> The X server may need a little more explicit configuration:

Thanks, that sounded like a good idea.

But it didn't work either for a new size or even when I give a size
which was the same as the default size:

$ cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
Section "Screen"
Identifier "TarskTripleTrouble"
SubSection "Display"
Virtual 8192 8192
EndSubSection
EndSection

The server fails to come up, with the tail of
~/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.0.log reading

[   621.616] (II) modeset(0): Using default gamma of (1.0, 1.0, 1.0)
unless otherwise stated.
[   621.616] (==) modeset(0): DPI set to (96, 96)
[   621.616] (II) Loading sub module "fb"
[   621.616] (II) LoadModule: "fb"
[   621.616] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libfb.so
[   621.616] (II) Module fb: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[   621.616] compiled for 1.18.4, module version = 1.0.0
[   621.616] ABI class: X.Org ANSI C Emulation, version 0.4
[   621.616] (II) UnloadModule: "fbdev"
[   621.616] (II) Unloading fbdev
[   621.616] (II) UnloadSubModule: "fbdevhw"
[   621.616] (II) Unloading fbdevhw
[   621.616] (II) UnloadModule: "vesa"
[   621.616] (II) Unloading vesa
[   621.616] (==) Depth 24 pixmap format is 32 bpp
[   621.680] (==) modeset(0): Backing store enabled
[   621.680] (==) modeset(0): Silken mouse enabled
[   621.680] (II) modeset(0): RandR 1.2 enabled, ignore the following
RandR disabled message.
[   621.680] (==) modeset(0): DPMS enabled
[   621.680] (II) modeset(0): [DRI2] Setup complete
[   621.681] (II) modeset(0): [DRI2]   DRI driver: i965
[   621.681] (II) modeset(0): [DRI2]   VDPAU driver: i965
[   621.721] (EE) modeset(0): failed to set mode: No space left on device
[   621.721] (EE)
Fatal server error:
[   621.721] (EE) AddScreen/ScreenInit failed for driver 0
[   621.721] (EE)
[   621.721] (EE)



Re: how to turn off backlight in console (without any X server)

2016-11-08 Thread Laurent Debian
I did not install X on this machine since the screen is half broken.  (i
just use it as a server and acces it via ssh but screen consume power for
nothing so i want somehow to turn it off).
I can install x and then try again xbacklight. This will be my next try...
Thanks again,
Laurent.

2016-11-08 14:02 GMT+01:00 :

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> On Tue, Nov 08, 2016 at 11:49:40AM +0100, Laurent Debian wrote:
> > Hi and thanks for your ideas
> >
> > Unfortunately there is no directory  /sys/class/backlight on my system.
> > After a
> >
> > > locate backlight
> > >
> > I juste had the following files as seemingly relevant.
> >
> > > /var/lib/systemd/backlight/pci-:02:00.0:backlight:nv_backlight
> > > /var/lib/systemd/backlight/platform-applesmc.768:leds:
> smc::kbd_backlight
> > >
> > Which were both at 100 but an echo 0 >   had no effect on the
> backlight
> > (tough it tuned to 0 the value of in the  files )
> > Any ideas where I should start to look at ?
>
> Hm Sorry. Are you able to change backlight under X? Perhaps there are clues
> to be extracted from that?
>
> regards
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Re: how to turn off backlight in console (without any X server)

2016-11-08 Thread tomas
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On Tue, Nov 08, 2016 at 11:49:40AM +0100, Laurent Debian wrote:
> Hi and thanks for your ideas
> 
> Unfortunately there is no directory  /sys/class/backlight on my system.
> After a
> 
> > locate backlight
> >
> I juste had the following files as seemingly relevant.
> 
> > /var/lib/systemd/backlight/pci-:02:00.0:backlight:nv_backlight
> > /var/lib/systemd/backlight/platform-applesmc.768:leds:smc::kbd_backlight
> >
> Which were both at 100 but an echo 0 >   had no effect on the backlight
> (tough it tuned to 0 the value of in the  files )
> Any ideas where I should start to look at ?

Hm Sorry. Are you able to change backlight under X? Perhaps there are clues
to be extracted from that?

regards
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Re: parted is ALMOST suitable

2016-11-08 Thread David Wright
On Tue 08 Nov 2016 at 04:58:05 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 11/7/2016 8:36 PM, Michael Lange wrote:
[...]
> >I think that the command Brian suggested:
> >
> >  udevadm info --query=property --name=/dev/sda1 | grep ID_FS_TYPE
> >
> >used with every partition that is returned by
> >
> >   cat /proc/partitions
> >
> >might be a good option for the OP.
> 
> Actually I now have two options, "udevadm info" and "/sbin/blkid".
> >From Brian's comment on bug #776905, in future releases "blkid"
> may be an option.

You may find useful information in /run/udev/data/b8:0 etc
without having to run any commands yourself. These files stay
up to date as devices are plugged/unplugged.

Cheers,
David.



Re: Third Monitor Stopped Working

2016-11-08 Thread Dan Ritter
On Tue, Nov 08, 2016 at 11:00:20AM +, Barak A. Pearlmutter wrote:
> I have three monitors, two 4K and one 1920x1200, all lined up
> horizontally: [4k][4k][1920x1200].  This configuration worked fine
> until I upgraded to stretch (testing) a few weeks ago.  Now only the two
> 4k monitors are usable, the third is off (by default) or if I force it
> on using xrandr it just mirrors.
> 
> When I run xrandr it reports a maximum horizontal resolution of
> 
>   $ xrandr | head -1
>   Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 7680 x 2160, maximum 8192 x 8192
> 
> 8192.  But I need at least
> 
>   $ xrandr | egrep ' connected' | sed 's:^.* \([0-9][0-9]*\)x.*$:\1:' | awk 
> '{t += $1} END {print t}'
>   9600
> 
> 9600.

The X server may need a little more explicit configuration: 

SubSection "Display"
Virtual 9600 2400
EndSubSection

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Correction - Re: parted is ALMOST suitable

2016-11-08 Thread Richard Owlett

On 11/8/2016 4:58 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:

[snip]

Actually I now have two options, "udevadm info" and "/sbin/blkid".

From Brian's comment on bug #776905, in future releases "blkid"

may be an option.


I'll have to modify that. Brian has stated in another sub-thread:

...  When blkid is run as root it creates the file
/run/blkid/blkid.tab. A user running blkid only gets to see the contents
of blkid.tab. There is no change to blkid.tab unless the command is run
by root again. This makes /sbin/blkid useless as a user command for the
purposes discussed in this thread.




Third Monitor Stopped Working

2016-11-08 Thread Barak A. Pearlmutter
I have three monitors, two 4K and one 1920x1200, all lined up
horizontally: [4k][4k][1920x1200].  This configuration worked fine
until I upgraded to stretch (testing) a few weeks ago.  Now only the two
4k monitors are usable, the third is off (by default) or if I force it
on using xrandr it just mirrors.

When I run xrandr it reports a maximum horizontal resolution of

  $ xrandr | head -1
  Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 7680 x 2160, maximum 8192 x 8192

8192.  But I need at least

  $ xrandr | egrep ' connected' | sed 's:^.* \([0-9][0-9]*\)x.*$:\1:' | awk '{t 
+= $1} END {print t}'
  9600

9600.

(Further hardware details below.)

Two question.

(a) What happened?  Is this due to wayland?  Is this a regression?  Should I 
report a bug?

(b) Can I fix it?  (If so, I'll doc on the appropriate debian wiki.)

--Barak A. Pearlmutter  http://barak.pearlmutter.net


FURTHER DETAILS


The two 4k displays are daisy-chained on a displayport output, the
1920x1200 is on a VGA connector.

$ ps auxww|egrep '/()X'
Debian-+  1724  0.0  0.2 284208 44644 tty1 Sl+  Nov07   0:00 
/usr/bin/Xwayland :1024 -rootless -noreset -listen 4 -listen 5 -displayfd 6
barak 1818  0.4  0.8 478732 134336 tty2S+   Nov07   6:53 
/usr/lib/xorg/Xorg vt2 -displayfd 3 -auth /run/user/1000/gdm/Xauthority 
-background none -noreset -keeptty -verbose 3

$ dpkg --search xorg/Xorg
xserver-xorg-core: /usr/lib/xorg/Xorg

$ dpkg --status xserver-xorg-core | egrep Version:
Version: 2:1.18.4-2

$ dpkg --status xserver-xorg-video-intel | egrep Version:
Version: 2:2.99.917+git20160706-1

$ lspci  | egrep VGA
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen 
Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 06)

$ xrandr | egrep -A1 -v 'disconnected|^ '
Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 7680 x 2160, maximum 8192 x 8192
VGA-1 connected 1920x1200+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 518mm 
x 324mm
   1920x1200 59.95*+
--
DP-1-8 connected primary 3840x2160+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y 
axis) 621mm x 341mm
   3840x2160 29.98*+  30.0029.97  
--
DP-1-1-8 connected 3840x2160+3840+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 
621mm x 341mm
   3840x2160 29.98*+  30.0029.97  

$ xdpyinfo
name of display::0
version number:11.0
vendor string:The X.Org Foundation
vendor release number:11804000
X.Org version: 1.18.4
maximum request size:  16777212 bytes
motion buffer size:  256
bitmap unit, bit order, padding:32, LSBFirst, 32
image byte order:LSBFirst
number of supported pixmap formats:7
supported pixmap formats:
depth 1, bits_per_pixel 1, scanline_pad 32
depth 4, bits_per_pixel 8, scanline_pad 32
depth 8, bits_per_pixel 8, scanline_pad 32
depth 15, bits_per_pixel 16, scanline_pad 32
depth 16, bits_per_pixel 16, scanline_pad 32
depth 24, bits_per_pixel 32, scanline_pad 32
depth 32, bits_per_pixel 32, scanline_pad 32
keycode range:minimum 8, maximum 255
focus:  window 0x1e00e9b, revert to Parent
number of extensions:29
BIG-REQUESTS
Composite
DAMAGE
DOUBLE-BUFFER
DPMS
DRI2
DRI3
GLX
Generic Event Extension
MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
MIT-SHM
Present
RANDR
RECORD
RENDER
SECURITY
SGI-GLX
SHAPE
SYNC
X-Resource
XC-MISC
XFIXES
XFree86-DGA
XFree86-VidModeExtension
XINERAMA
XInputExtension
XKEYBOARD
XTEST
XVideo
default screen number:0
number of screens:1

screen #0:
  dimensions:7680x2160 pixels (2032x572 millimeters)
  resolution:96x96 dots per inch
  depths (7):24, 1, 4, 8, 15, 16, 32
  root window id:0xe7
  depth of root window:24 planes
  number of colormaps:minimum 1, maximum 1
  default colormap:0x20
  default number of colormap cells:256
  preallocated pixels:black 0, white 16777215
  options:backing-store WHEN MAPPED, save-unders NO
  largest cursor:256x256
  current input event mask:0xfa4033
KeyPressMask KeyReleaseMask   EnterWindowMask
LeaveWindowMask  KeymapStateMask  StructureNotifyMask
SubstructureNotifyMask   SubstructureRedirectMask FocusChangeMask
PropertyChangeMask   ColormapChangeMask
  number of visuals:40
  default visual id:  0x21
  visual:
visual id:0x21
class:TrueColor
depth:24 planes
available colormap entries:256 per subfield
red, green, blue masks:0xff, 0xff00, 0xff
significant bits in color specification:8 bits
  visual:
visual id:0x22
class:DirectColor
depth:24 planes
available colormap entries:256 per subfield
red, green, blue masks:0xff, 0xff00, 0xff
significant bits in color specification:8 bits
  visual:
visual id:0xc1
class:TrueColor
 

Re: parted is ALMOST suitable

2016-11-08 Thread Richard Owlett

On 11/7/2016 5:54 PM, Brian wrote:

On Mon 07 Nov 2016 at 21:07:45 +0100, Pascal Hambourg wrote:


Le 07/11/2016 à 15:18, Richard Owlett a écrit :


   tomas@rasputin:~$ ls -al /dev/sd*
   brw-rw 1 root disk 8, 0 Nov  7 09:06 /dev/sda
   brw-rw 1 root disk 8, 1 Nov  7 09:06 /dev/sda1
   brw-rw 1 root disk 8, 2 Nov  7 09:06 /dev/sda2
   brw-rw 1 root disk 8, 5 Nov  7 09:06 /dev/sda5

So you'd have to be associated to the "disk" group to read those
things and you'd have to *be* root to write.


Evidently not a solution. Added myself to both "disk" and "root" groups.
Had no effect when attempting to run either lsblk or parted.


Did you start a new session after adding yourself to the group ?
New groups are only taken into account when opening a session.
FWIW, adding myself to the "disk" group and starting a new session worked
with lsblk -f. Didn't try parted.


Is the suggestion to give a user raw access to disks a serious one?


Off-list it was suggested I try /sbin/blkid /dev/sda. Although the man
page has a caution when not used as root, it seems to currently work on
my immediately available Debian machine.


Indeed blkid uses a cache file which is readable by everyone and is updated
by udev.


A very useful observation. When blkid is run as root it creates the file
/run/blkid/blkid.tab. A user running blkid only gets to see the contents
of blkid.tab. There is no change to blkid.tab unless the command is run
by root again. This makes /sbin/blkid useless as a user command for the
purposes discussed in this thread.



I can confirm that on a fresh install /sbin/blkid does NOT return 
the desired information. However I do not recall running it as 
root before running it as user on the machine I had been using, 
so the may be other programs which create blkid.tab .





Re: parted is ALMOST suitable

2016-11-08 Thread Richard Owlett

On 11/7/2016 8:36 PM, Michael Lange wrote:

On Mon, 7 Nov 2016 23:48:53 +
Lisi Reisz  wrote:




Speaking as a Jessie user, changing to root and using lsblk -f is
quicker and easier!


Sure, but the OP said that's not an option.
I think that the command Brian suggested:

  udevadm info --query=property --name=/dev/sda1 | grep ID_FS_TYPE

used with every partition that is returned by

   cat /proc/partitions

might be a good option for the OP.

Regards

Michael



Actually I now have two options, "udevadm info" and "/sbin/blkid".
From Brian's comment on bug #776905, in future releases "blkid" 

may be an option.




Re: how to turn off backlight in console (without any X server)

2016-11-08 Thread Laurent Debian
Hi and thanks for your ideas

Unfortunately there is no directory  /sys/class/backlight on my system.
After a

> locate backlight
>
I juste had the following files as seemingly relevant.

> /var/lib/systemd/backlight/pci-:02:00.0:backlight:nv_backlight
> /var/lib/systemd/backlight/platform-applesmc.768:leds:smc::kbd_backlight
>
Which were both at 100 but an echo 0 >   had no effect on the backlight
(tough it tuned to 0 the value of in the  files )
Any ideas where I should start to look at ?

Cheers,


2016-11-01 14:49 GMT+01:00 :

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> On Tue, Nov 01, 2016 at 02:22:46PM +0100, Laurent Debian wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I would like to turn off the backlight completly on a  mac book pro 2008
> > (sid).
> > I don't have any x server.  Does it explains this error ?
>
> Most probably yes. "Xbacklight" hints at an X application. RandR is an
> X server extension.
>
> > >  xbacklight -set 10
> > > RANDR Query Version returned error -1
> > >
> >
> > the graphic card is
> > 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation C79 [GeForce 9400M]
> > (rev b1)
> > nouveau is loaded by the kernel.
>
> I'd imagine that xbacklight (and xrandr) try to talk to the X server to
> do their bidding.
>
> >
> > Any way to turn off the backlight without installing  X woudl be greatly
> > appreciated.
>
> Have a look at the files under /sys/class/backlight. For me, this works:
>
>   sudo bash -c "echo 2 > /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness"
>
> Enjoy
>
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Re: debian-6.0.4-i386-DVD-1.iso install issue

2016-11-08 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 08 November 2016 06:09:16 Shawn Li (李松) wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have downloaded debian-6.0.4-i386-DVD-1.iso from debian.org,and I install
> it to my computer.when the install finish,I got a AMD64 version debian.but
> my computer’s CPU is 32bit and the DVD iso is i386,
>
> could yout please tell me why? I just want to install a 32bit debian6
> os.thank you.
>
> Shawn

Why are you installing Debian 6???  And you can't install a 64 bit system on a 
32 bit computer.  You can try, but you won't succeed.  What makes you think 
that you have done so?

Lisi



Re: parted is ALMOST suitable

2016-11-08 Thread tomas
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On Mon, Nov 07, 2016 at 07:54:23PM +0300, Reco wrote:
>   Hi.
> 
> On Mon, Nov 07, 2016 at 04:05:17PM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 07, 2016 at 09:35:32AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > > I started writing that in my previous message, but then I actually
> > > tested it on my own system.  Good thing I did, because I got the
> > > same result as Richard: being in group disk, which has read/write
> > > access on /dev/sda*, does NOT give you output in the FSTYPE and other
> > > fields of lsblk -f.  It certainly surprised me.
> > 
> > Indeed. I suspect lsblk is checking the user ID itself instead of
> > letting the OS do its thing. For whatever reasons I can't fathom.

[...]

> The definition of this function contains this little gem (getuid call):

[...]

> /* try libblkid (fallback) */
> if (getuid() != 0)
> return; /* no permissions to read from the device */

[...]

> I.e. insufficient device permissions will return NULL anyway, so there's
> little point of checking whenever the calling user is root or not.

Hey, thanks for actually following through. My dirty imagination was
right, for one time :-)

Actually this is an anti-pattern: trying to do a job in advance before
the "right" architecture layer has a chance at doing a better job.
More complexity, less functionality.

regards
- -- tomás
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Re: debian-6.0.4-i386-DVD-1.iso install issue

2016-11-08 Thread Umarzuki Mochlis
> I have downloaded debian-6.0.4-i386-DVD-1.iso from debian.org,and I install
> it to my computer.when the install finish,I got a AMD64 version debian.but
> my computer’s CPU is 32bit and the DVD iso is i386,
>
>

which url are you using?
have you compared its hash?
please verify.

>
> could yout please tell me why? I just want to install a 32bit debian6
> os.thank you.
>
>
>
> Shawn