Re: Matrox G550 mga driver hangs system
Tony Stoneley composed on 2017-03-30 17:12 (UTC+0100): Felix Miata wrote on Wed, 29 Mar 2017 16:44:01 -0400 https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/03/msg00895.html Did you try other things suggested in that thread or the openSUSE bug referenced there https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1004453 ? To be honest, I'm way out of my depth in all that. I would be happy to try a particular experiment, given instructions... e.g. disabling framebuffer? Er, how? xserver-xorg-video-fbdev isn't installed, nor for that matter xserver-xorg-video-modesetting. As I said, I'm out of my depth. A framebuffer is historically how the boot messages get displayed on vtty1 by the kernel in other than 80x25 text mode. Plymouth can be and often is used to convert that process to a graphical mode. By disabling framebuffer I mean to ensure that you are booting in 80x25 mode. Matrox doesn't support all the usual standard VESA modes, so getting back to the most basic video output can be key to video problem solutions. Your goal is to boot without Plymouth and without framebuffer, in 80x25 mode, to give Xorg the best possible chance to work as expect. If Plymouth is installed, purge it. To proceed, hit the e key when the Grub menu appears, then remove any line that says "load_video", and from any line that includes "video=" or "vesa" or "vga=" or "quiet" or "splash", remove each whole such string. Optionally, if the string "text" appears, remove it too. If all the above doesn't help, repeat it, but append "iomem=relaxed" to the line that included video and/or vesa and/or vga. If this works, and Grub2 is what you are using, then /etc/default/grub needs to be modified to match whatever worked, followed by running update-grub. If still using Grub, simply update menu.lst to match what worked. Which is yours PCIe, or AGP? Ah! One I can answer: AGP That's what I have. Which WM/DE(s) is/are you trying to use? xfce4 and all that goes with it, but I don't think it's getting that far. As previously remarked, that stuff does all work with the vesa driver (achieved by tweaking xorg.conf). FBDEV and VESA Xorg drivers are creepy-crawly slow!!! Are you using a greeter, or logging in on a vtty and using startx or equivalent? What are the permissions on your /usr/bin/Xorg? Can you see any other clues than Xorg.0.log shows by running 'journalctl -b -1'? Nope, though I might possibly not recognise a clue... Doing something like 'journalctl -b -1 | grep -i failed' might be useful. There is an awful lot of stuff making particular points of interest hard to identify in the journal. Apologies for uselessness (and also btw for wrecking the thread structure with a completely inadvertent small subject change, the genesis of which is a complete mystery to me). Don't be confused by the fact that some common video terms have multiple contexts. Using the VESA driver in Xorg has nothing directly to do with VESA modes being used by the kernel or the BIOS. Same goes for modesetting or KMS. Matrox gfxchips are not supported by KMS, so the modesetting Xorg driver is not an option for Matrox users. xserver-xorg-video-modesetting is appropriate only for Intel, ATI and NVidia hardware that is several years newer than your Matrox. xserver-xorg-video-fbdev would probably not work as well as xserver-xorg-video-vesa. Lack of active Matrox support since KMS was introduced into the kernel around 8 years ago is why were are going through this troubleshooting process. Devs are no longer Matrox users, so must rely on users who have problems reporting them with enough details that fixes can be implemented by devs who have no matching hardware to test on. It may be time for you to ask for help from the devs, using the debian-devel mailing list or one of the freedesktop.org Xorg mailing lists, or by filing a Debian bug. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/
Re: Wan/Lan problem
On March 30, 2017 8:27:54 PM EDT, Mike McClain wrote: >On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 07:25:52AM -0400, Henning Follmann wrote: >> On March 28, 2017 7:46:02 PM EDT, Mike McClain > wrote: > >> >The situation is this: >> > >> > phoneeth0 eth1 >> >AT&T---| || || |---| | >> >AT&T modem/ Linux my Win2K >> >router box router box >> > >> > >> ># /etc/hosts >> >192.168.1.254ATTrouter >> >#192.168.1.64outbound.att.netatt >> >127.0.0.1 localhost >> >192.168.1.2 playground play >> >192.168.1.3 south40 s40 >> >192.168.1.1 router >> ># --- end hosts >> >> You put eth0 and eth1 into the same network segment. >> That most likely is your problem >> Either you bridge eth0 and eth1 or if you want your linux box as a >firewall you pick a different ntwork for eth1 >> >> -- >> Henning Follmann > >If I'm understanding you you're saying that ATT's router having an >address of 192.168.1.254 on eth0 while the Linux box(play), Win2k(s40) >and my router have addresses 192.168.1.1,2&3 on eth1 is the root of >the problem. Since ATT's router's address is immutable I either need >to reconfigure 2 computers and a router to a different net, >192.168.2.0 or 10.0.0.0, for instance or learn to build bridges. > >Is my understanding correct? > >Thanks, >Mike Yes, with your configuration both eth0 and eth1 are in 192.168.1.0/24. There is no way tobfigure out which to use. However you have to provide more than just diferent subnets. The network behind the firewall now needs dns and most likely also dhcp. You could install dnsmasq. It provides just this. However based on your initial understanding of networking I wonder if something like pfsense makes more sense for you. Another way to set this up would be a transparent firewall. In that case you bridge eth0 and eth1 without assigning an ip address at all. You might want to have athird network interface for maintenance tho. Pfsense also privides that functionality. -H -- Henning Follmann
Re: Wan/Lan problem
On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 07:25:52AM -0400, Henning Follmann wrote: > On March 28, 2017 7:46:02 PM EDT, Mike McClain > wrote: > >The situation is this: > > > > phoneeth0 eth1 > >AT&T---| || || |---| | > >AT&T modem/ Linux my Win2K > >router box router box > > > > > ># /etc/hosts > >192.168.1.254ATTrouter > >#192.168.1.64outbound.att.netatt > >127.0.0.1 localhost > >192.168.1.2 playground play > >192.168.1.3 south40 s40 > >192.168.1.1 router > ># --- end hosts > > You put eth0 and eth1 into the same network segment. > That most likely is your problem > Either you bridge eth0 and eth1 or if you want your linux box as a firewall > you pick a different ntwork for eth1 > > -- > Henning Follmann If I'm understanding you you're saying that ATT's router having an address of 192.168.1.254 on eth0 while the Linux box(play), Win2k(s40) and my router have addresses 192.168.1.1,2&3 on eth1 is the root of the problem. Since ATT's router's address is immutable I either need to reconfigure 2 computers and a router to a different net, 192.168.2.0 or 10.0.0.0, for instance or learn to build bridges. Is my understanding correct? Thanks, Mike -- Goodness will be rewarded with goodness. - Chinese proverb
Re: Movie 'n Book recommendations by Curt
> On Mar 30, 2017, at 6:10 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > >> On Thursday 30 March 2017 21:22:57 Catherine Gramze wrote: >> This reminds me of the time a professor gave a coding assignment on >> Tuesday, due "next Thursday." To most of the class that meant in 2 days, >> rather than next week. Hilarity ensued. But I think the Brits have it >> right, with "Thursday" meaning in two days, and "Thursday next" meaning >> next week. (I may be imagining this difference in clarity, though.) > > All the Brits I know say "next Thursday" with exactly the ambiguity mentioned. > > Cue every Brit who disagrees, from among the very large number of Brits whom > I > do not know!! > Cruel of you to disabuse me of my happy illusion of Brit linguistic superiority. Next, you'll be telling me it's spelled aluminium Cathy
Re: HP Printer (OfficeJet 8730) Installation
On Thu 30 Mar 2017 at 23:23:58 +0100, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: > On 30/03/17 18:28, Brian wrote: > > > > The 8730 looks like a smart device but at 220+ GBP I'd want it working, > > Now! > > There's £50.00 cashback, I wouldn't willingly part with £220.00 either. > > > Are you using the USB port or is the device on the network? Either way, > > all that is needed for printing is printer-driver-hpcups, unless you are > > wedded to having all that hplip provides. You should be able to purge > > hplip and whatever python packages it pulled in and printing should > > still work. Perhaps best, though, to ignore me and leave things as they > > are if you are happy with this situation. You are printing after all. > > I'm connected via Ethernet so all my computers can use the device. Call > me old fashioned: I've been using Ethernet since the '80s and I trust > the security of wires rather more than wireless. A 63 character WPA key isn't, I believe, inherently less secure than a wired connection. > > Scanning? Set up the device wirelessly (it can be left connected by USB > > for this, I think) and enable AirPrint/Bonjour from its EWS (embedded > > web server): > > > > http://IP_of_the_8730 > > > > After that > > > > scanimage -L > > > > should pick up the scanner. xsane should offer it as choice if you there > > is more than one scanner on the network. Or it should just detect the > > OfficeJet and display. > > I thought that AirPrint/Bonjour was Apple related so I haven't > investigated it to date. The printer has a nice facility of scanning to > the front USB port, outputting PDF amongst other formats. It suits me > for the time being. Avahi plays the same role on Debian as Bonjour. The command above should also work with ethernet. -- Brian. > Regards > > Peter HB >
Re: HP Printer (OfficeJet 8730) Installation
On 30/03/17 18:28, Brian wrote: > On Thu 30 Mar 2017 at 16:15:18 +0100, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: > >> On 29/03/17 18:27, Brian wrote: >>> >>> The changelog at backports has >>> >>> hplip (3.16.7+repack0-1) unstable; urgency=medium >>> >>> * New upstream release >>> - Support for new HP printers: >>> × Officejet Pro 8730 >>> >> Thanks again, Brian. Once I fiddled with the missing Python component(s) >> - by pure guesswork - I was able to print. Scanning is an issue for >> another day as xsane produces a thin strip of over-printed rubbish. I'll >> probably wait for Stretch before exploring further. > > The 8730 looks like a smart device but at 220+ GBP I'd want it working, > Now! There's £50.00 cashback, I wouldn't willingly part with £220.00 either. > Are you using the USB port or is the device on the network? Either way, > all that is needed for printing is printer-driver-hpcups, unless you are > wedded to having all that hplip provides. You should be able to purge > hplip and whatever python packages it pulled in and printing should > still work. Perhaps best, though, to ignore me and leave things as they > are if you are happy with this situation. You are printing after all. I'm connected via Ethernet so all my computers can use the device. Call me old fashioned: I've been using Ethernet since the '80s and I trust the security of wires rather more than wireless. > Scanning? Set up the device wirelessly (it can be left connected by USB > for this, I think) and enable AirPrint/Bonjour from its EWS (embedded > web server): > > http://IP_of_the_8730 > > After that > > scanimage -L > > should pick up the scanner. xsane should offer it as choice if you there > is more than one scanner on the network. Or it should just detect the > OfficeJet and display. I thought that AirPrint/Bonjour was Apple related so I haven't investigated it to date. The printer has a nice facility of scanning to the front USB port, outputting PDF amongst other formats. It suits me for the time being. Regards Peter HB signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [OT] Re: Issue with notebook (maybe the battery?)
Daniel Bareiro: > Next week I'll take the notebook to the supplier for the test with a new > battery. They offered doing tests with a new battery for an entire day. > I think I'm going to suggest them to use a liveCD as System Rescue CD or > something like that, since the disk is encrypted. Although I'm not sure > if they will feel comfortable using GNU/Linux (and I don't know if there > is liveCD's with Windows). There is the installation disk that would boot up, I haven't tried this madness of installing windows on a thumbstick, I have managed to install full systems on them. If your hd needs to be encrypted I wouldn't trust it on anyone and walk away from it. Eventually if it is copied out it may get decrypted given sufficient time and resources. It is pretty simple to take a HD out and a service dept. know how to deal with a laptop without a hd. So don't hand them out your data if you don't care to share them. > Kind regards, > Daniel Simple electrical tests, like voltage measured on contacts can tell you whether the battery holds charge and whether the charge circuit goes on or not. In 90% of the time it is a failing battery.
Re: Movie 'n Book recommendations by Curt
On Thursday 30 March 2017 21:22:57 Catherine Gramze wrote: > This reminds me of the time a professor gave a coding assignment on > Tuesday, due "next Thursday." To most of the class that meant in 2 days, > rather than next week. Hilarity ensued. But I think the Brits have it > right, with "Thursday" meaning in two days, and "Thursday next" meaning > next week. (I may be imagining this difference in clarity, though.) All the Brits I know say "next Thursday" with exactly the ambiguity mentioned. Cue every Brit who disagrees, from among the very large number of Brits whom I do not know!! Lisi
Re: Remove topic
On 03/30/2017 05:21 PM, Brad Rogers wrote: On Thu, 30 Mar 2017 16:42:58 -0400 Catherine Gramze wrote: Hello Catherine, The Debian mailing lists are publicly available. Perhaps the Debian IRC chat channels would give you the anonymity you want. I am sorry if this disclosure of your name has harmed you in any way. You may not have understood how mailing lists work. The OP posts the same message here, and to other MLs, every few months. They must surely know by now that message removal isn't an option. Furthermore, their repeated requests for message removal do nothing to enhance anonymity. Quite the opposite, in fact. I almost mentioned that in my response, that each new message seems to result in their name, once more, becoming publicly visible on the list. tony -- http://tonybaldwin.me all tony, all the time
Re: Remove topic
On Thu, 30 Mar 2017 16:42:58 -0400 Catherine Gramze wrote: Hello Catherine, >The Debian mailing lists are publicly available. Perhaps the Debian IRC >chat channels would give you the anonymity you want. I am sorry if this >disclosure of your name has harmed you in any way. You may not have >understood how mailing lists work. The OP posts the same message here, and to other MLs, every few months. They must surely know by now that message removal isn't an option. Furthermore, their repeated requests for message removal do nothing to enhance anonymity. Quite the opposite, in fact. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent" Is she really going out with him? New Rose - The Damned pgpMeUHTP_EXM.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Remove topic
On 03/30/2017 04:16 PM, Lounis ILLOURMANE wrote: Hello, Can you please remove the topic on this URL https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2010/06/msg02062.html There's my first and family name, some people try to use this informations to hurt me. Please help me. Please do not make this message public. Good regards Lounis illourmane But, Lounis, all messages to this list are publicly archived. -- http://tonybaldwin.me all tony, all the time
Re: Remove topic
> On Mar 30, 2017, at 4:16 PM, Lounis ILLOURMANE wrote: > > Hello, > Can you please remove the topic on this URL > https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2010/06/msg02062.html > There's my first and family name, some people try to use this informations to > hurt me. > Please help me. Please do not make this message public. The Debian mailing lists are publicly available. Perhaps the Debian IRC chat channels would give you the anonymity you want. I am sorry if this disclosure of your name has harmed you in any way. You may not have understood how mailing lists work. Cathy
Re: Movie 'n Book recommendations by Curt
> On Mar 30, 2017, at 3:56 PM, Terence wrote: > > Lisi asks "And is London "up" or "down"from York?" > > London is "up". "Up trains" were those travelling to London terminii, "Down > trains" departed from London terminii to other parts of the rail network. I have run across people to whom "uptown" refers to the central area of only a very large city, and "downtown" is everyplace else - and vice versa. > > On the other hand, if you "Take The 'A' Train" Sugar Hill is "up in Harlem". Manhattan is a special well-defined case where going "up" or "down" refers to the street numbers. 109th St. is "up" from 54th St. The numbers go from the southwest tip of the island northeast, and they are all numbered streets. Very handy. > > As they say in "Private Eye", I don't get out much.. This reminds me of the time a professor gave a coding assignment on Tuesday, due "next Thursday." To most of the class that meant in 2 days, rather than next week. Hilarity ensued. But I think the Brits have it right, with "Thursday" meaning in two days, and "Thursday next" meaning next week. (I may be imagining this difference in clarity, though.) Cathy
Remove topic
Hello, Can you please remove the topic on this URL https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2010/06/msg02062.html There's my first and family name, some people try to use this informations to hurt me. Please help me. Please do not make this message public. Good regards Lounis illourmane
Re: [OT] Re: Issue with notebook (maybe the battery?)
Hi, Joe an Tomás. > Do you think the problem might be in the charger? Yes, certainly. That's why I said it's difficult to know what's going on without either a known good battery or a known good charger. You'd better hope it's the battery, as that is easy to fix... >>> But in any case, whether the problem is in the charger or the >>> battery, I suppose that to solve the issue I will have to change the >>> part. I suppose if the problem is in the charger, the cost will be >>> less compared to a battery. >> Yes, but it is unlikely that a schematic diagram of the laptop >> motherboard will be available. It shouldn't be too hard to locate the >> parts used in charging, but if the main IC is faulty, it may not be >> available in your part of the world [...] > It's worth stressing on this point, since I've the suspicion that there > is a misunderstanding on your part, Daniel: the charge controller isn't > that external brick: that is probably just a more or less dumb power > source. The charge controller is buried somewhere in your laptop (as > Joe puts it, on the laptop's motherboard). Yes, now that he talked about the schematic of the motherboard, I see that he was referring to some internal component of the notebook. Thanks for pointing this out, Tomás :-) And about that: > > Lots of contacts. It is possible that the battery electronics can > > tell if it is correctly seated in the right model laptop, and will > > not supply power if that is not the case. For your safety, of > > course. It could be a possibility... Next week I'll take the notebook to the supplier for the test with a new battery. They offered doing tests with a new battery for an entire day. I think I'm going to suggest them to use a liveCD as System Rescue CD or something like that, since the disk is encrypted. Although I'm not sure if they will feel comfortable using GNU/Linux (and I don't know if there is liveCD's with Windows). Kind regards, Daniel signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Movie 'n Book recommendations by Curt
Lisi asks "And is London "up" or "down"from York?" London is "up". "Up trains" were those travelling to London terminii, "Down trains" departed from London terminii to other parts of the rail network. On the other hand, if you "Take The 'A' Train" Sugar Hill is "up in Harlem". As they say in "Private Eye", I don't get out much... Terence On 30 March 2017 at 20:28, John Hasler wrote: > Eike Lantzsch writes: > > the Dutch in New Netherland were called "Jan Kees". New Netherland > > became mostly New York and the locals became "Yankees". So somebody > > from South Carolina may feel that he himself must not be considered to > > be a "Yankee". Whether the nickname for the Dutch was just friendly > > banter or derogative, I don't know. > > It gets more complicated yet. Look up the song "Yankee Doodle". > -- > John Hasler > jhas...@newsguy.com > Elmwood, WI USA > >
Midori - Stretch amd64 freezing up - weird TB behavior
Debian stretch on amd64 Totally freezing up is a new experience with debian ever The only thing I can associate it with is my recent trial with Midori and somehow its association with html files to auto start. It is the most recent thing running when it happens. Has anyone had a similar exprerience with it? Everything else is pretty much on all day and although rarely I may have run into a situation of too much cpu or RAM being used, things don't freeze, just slow down. I am usually able to start the task manager up and shut something down. With this recent phenomenon it is a freeze with 0 response, except for the mouse pointer still moving around precisely in a picture like screen. I can't say for sure I can reproduce it with midori, maybe it is something specific that makes it freeze up. I'm goint to uninstall it to see if it happens again. Also thunderbird doesn't seem to be as functional as icedove used to be. When i-d started as soon as an account was clicked that had a saved password it would ask for the master-password. TB seems to just blank out, neither checks for mail that it is asked to nor does it ask for the masterpassword. On the second try it seems to wake up and its job. Although as it is running all day I doubt it is the freeze-up culprit.
djbwares version 5
djbwares is now at version 5. * http://jdebp.eu./Softwares/djbwares/ * http://jdebp.info./Softwares/djbwares/ This contains some long-overdue changes: ip6.int has been replaced by ip6.arpa in tinydns-data and dnscache, and rblsmtpd no longer falls back to using an RBL that has been defunct for many years. It also contains some additions: some UCSPI-SSL capability, a new gopherd UCSPI server to go alongside httpd and ftpd in publicfile, and most of the previously missing manual pages (including a few for commands which had no manuals in the original toolsets). There are no longer any placeholder manual pages for the "man" command. There are still a few manual pages that are only present in roff form, though. You can see gopherd in action: * gopher://jdebp.info./1/Repository/
Re: Movie 'n Book recommendations by Curt
Eike Lantzsch writes: > the Dutch in New Netherland were called "Jan Kees". New Netherland > became mostly New York and the locals became "Yankees". So somebody > from South Carolina may feel that he himself must not be considered to > be a "Yankee". Whether the nickname for the Dutch was just friendly > banter or derogative, I don't know. It gets more complicated yet. Look up the song "Yankee Doodle". -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA
Re: Movie 'n Book recommendations by Curt
On 03/30/2017 01:15 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Thursday 30 March 2017 18:43:00 kAt wrote: In any case, looking "down" on people due to their origin One of the geographical meanings of "down" in English English is "South" . "South (as south is at the bottom of typical maps). I went down to Miami for a conference." https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/down If one takes Yankee to mean New Yorker, then surely North Carolina is down?? We have country bumpkins in the Home Counties. And is London "up" or "down" from York? Lisi "Yankee" is one of those words that means what the speaker wishes it to mean. That meaning is strongly influenced by where the speaker was born. There's an old joke along the lines of: If from Florida, it's someone from north of the Mason-Dixon line. If from north of Mason-Dixon line, it's someone from New England. If from New England, it's someone from Maine. If from Maine, it's someone who puts ketchup on his eggs.
Re: Movie 'n Book recommendations by Curt
On Wednesday, 29 March 2017 22:29:59 -04 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Wednesday 29 March 2017 20:46:00 kAt wrote: > > What do you mean down? You arrogant yankee? > > Don't Yankees come from the United States?? Or is Curt an expat?? > > Lisi Hi y'all, Oh - OK here is OT: the Dutch in New Netherland were called "Jan Kees". New Netherland became mostly New York and the locals became "Yankees". So somebody from South Carolina may feel that he himself must not be considered to be a "Yankee". Whether the nickname for the Dutch was just friendly banter or derogative, I don't know. Hard to say anyway because names, which once were meant to be friendly or neutral got a derogative meaning by and by. "Down" if referring to a city, land or continent, mostly is used in view of the map, which is commonly oriented with north up and south down. So I'm living "down" here in South America while you are living "up" there on the northern hemisphere. People may be "up" there on the stage, but they are judged by the critics "down" there in the auditorium or are the critics always "up" there in the boxes? I had to look up "bumpkin" however. No, that is not polite ... So why did "down" trigger the reply and not the mention of the unexperienced resident of the rural parts of the southeastern parts of the country, which must not be named? I recommend a thicker hide to not be offended by everybody and everything. Or was it just hyperbole? Eike -- Eike Lantzsch ZP6CGE Eliminate batteries - they are so polarized.
Re: Movie 'n Book recommendations by Curt
> On Mar 29, 2017, at 5:29 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > Don't Yankees come from the United States?? Or is Curt an expat?? > The term Yankee refers specifically to a person from the northern, rather than southern, part of the USA, when used by a US native, usually one from the south. It is not a compliment. A damn Yankee is a Yankee who intends to live indefinitely in the south. It has been used by people from other countries to refer to a person from the USA, no matter their location. A Yankee as opposed to a Kiwi, or a Brit, or an Aussie. No offense toward any group of people is intended in this post. Cathy
Re: Movie 'n Book recommendations by Curt
On Thursday 30 March 2017 18:43:00 kAt wrote: > In any case, looking "down" on people due to their origin One of the geographical meanings of "down" in English English is "South" . "South (as south is at the bottom of typical maps). I went down to Miami for a conference." https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/down If one takes Yankee to mean New Yorker, then surely North Carolina is down?? We have country bumpkins in the Home Counties. And is London "up" or "down" from York? Lisi
Re: Movie 'n Book recommendations by Curt
Lisi Reisz: > On Wednesday 29 March 2017 20:46:00 kAt wrote: >> What do you mean down? You arrogant yankee? > > Don't Yankees come from the United States?? Or is Curt an expat?? In any case, looking "down" on people due to their origin (and other characteristics) is not very social - and once you stick your antisocial (elitist) head up you must be willing to get some response, or attention. > Lisi kAt
Re: HP Printer (OfficeJet 8730) Installation
On Thu 30 Mar 2017 at 16:15:18 +0100, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: > On 29/03/17 18:27, Brian wrote: > > > > The changelog at backports has > > > > hplip (3.16.7+repack0-1) unstable; urgency=medium > > > > * New upstream release > > - Support for new HP printers: > > × Officejet Pro 8730 > > > Thanks again, Brian. Once I fiddled with the missing Python component(s) > - by pure guesswork - I was able to print. Scanning is an issue for > another day as xsane produces a thin strip of over-printed rubbish. I'll > probably wait for Stretch before exploring further. The 8730 looks like a smart device but at 220+ GBP I'd want it working, Now! Are you using the USB port or is the device on the network? Either way, all that is needed for printing is printer-driver-hpcups, unless you are wedded to having all that hplip provides. You should be able to purge hplip and whatever python packages it pulled in and printing should still work. Perhaps best, though, to ignore me and leave things as they are if you are happy with this situation. You are printing after all. Scanning? Set up the device wirelessly (it can be left connected by USB for this, I think) and enable AirPrint/Bonjour from its EWS (embedded web server): http://IP_of_the_8730 After that scanimage -L should pick up the scanner. xsane should offer it as choice if you there is more than one scanner on the network. Or it should just detect the OfficeJet and display. -- Brian.
Re: Matrox G550 mga driver hangs system
Felix Miata wrote on Wed, 29 Mar 2017 16:44:01 -0400 >> https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/03/msg00895.html >Did you try other things suggested in that thread or the openSUSE bug >referenced there >https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1004453 ? To be honest, I'm way out of my depth in all that. I would be happy to try a particular experiment, given instructions... >e.g. disabling framebuffer? Er, how? xserver-xorg-video-fbdev isn't installed, nor for that matter xserver-xorg-video-modesetting. As I said, I'm out of my depth. >Which is yours PCIe, or AGP? Ah! One I can answer: AGP >Which WM/DE(s) is/are you trying to use? xfce4 and all that goes with it, but I don't think it's getting that far. As previously remarked, that stuff does all work with the vesa driver (achieved by tweaking xorg.conf). >Can you see any other clues than Xorg.0.log shows by running >'journalctl -b -1'? Nope, though I might possibly not recognise a clue... Apologies for uselessness (and also btw for wrecking the thread structure with a completely inadvertent small subject change, the genesis of which is a complete mystery to me). -- Tony Stoneley
Re: HP Printer (OfficeJet 8730) Installation
On 29/03/17 18:27, Brian wrote: > On Wed 29 Mar 2017 at 17:59:03 +0100, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: > >> Fully up to date Jessie installation >> >> my printer recently died and I replaced it with a new OfficeJet as >> above. Regrettably support is not available with hplip in Jessie, nor >> with version 3.16.11 that is current in hplip downloads. >> >> Has anyone achieved success with this device and, if so how? > > HP's website: > http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/supported_devices/officejet.html > > The Min. HPLIP Version is 3.16.7. Debian has that in backports for Jessie. > > The changelog at backports has > > hplip (3.16.7+repack0-1) unstable; urgency=medium > > * New upstream release > - Support for new HP printers: > × Officejet Pro 8730 > Thanks again, Brian. Once I fiddled with the missing Python component(s) - by pure guesswork - I was able to print. Scanning is an issue for another day as xsane produces a thin strip of over-printed rubbish. I'll probably wait for Stretch before exploring further. Peter HB signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Wan/Lan problem
On Wednesday, March 29, 2017 05:11:25 PM Mike McClain wrote: > The problem I have with your solution is that the Win2K box is not > behind the firewall I have running on the Linux box. > > Thank you for your thoughts. You're welcome! I think Henning, in a later post, may have identified the problem in your configuration. Still for posterity, I'll mention a few things: * I don't know what you have in your firewall, but I think (but am not sure) that most routers can do firewalls * And a router like the EdgeRouter from Unity has an underlying (and accessible) Debian OS (6.n) so maybe your firewall rules could be moved there. * I don't use firewalls, I use NAT (which has a few variations) and an /etc/hosts files which basically ignores a large number of spammy websites (by resolving the host name to 0.0.0.0). Good luck, I hope Henniing has identified the problem!
Re: Wan/Lan problem
On March 28, 2017 7:46:02 PM EDT, Mike McClain wrote: >Howdy, >I have a WAN/LAN challenge I'm hoping for help with. > >I'm runniing Debian 7.11 on a Pentium 3 with 250MB ram. > >mike@/deb7:~> uname -a >Linux playground 3.2.0-4-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 3.2.84-2 i686 GNU/Linux > > >The situation is this: > > phoneeth0 eth1 >AT&T---| || || |---| | >AT&T modem/ Linux my Win2K >router box router box > >When eth0 is up and eth1 down, >the Linux box can access the web. >'ping ATTrouter' works. >When eth0 is up and eth1 up, >the Linux box can not access the web. >the Win2K box can access the web. >the Linux box can not access the Win2K shares. >'ping ATTrouter' fails. >'ping -Ieth0 ATTrouter' works. >When eth0 is down and eth1 up, >the Linux box can access the Win2K shares. >When eth0 is down and eth1 down, >it's quiet. > >The ATT router is set to 'Pass Through' giving the Linux box the ATT >router's IP address. >The Linux box is set to use DHCP. >This might explain why I loose the LAN connection when eth0 up. > >Why can the Linux box not see the web while the Win2K box can? > >I've not found or at least recognized the problem in the HowTo's. >Pointer's or suggestions? > >Thanks, >Mike > ># /etc/hosts >192.168.1.254ATTrouter >#192.168.1.64outbound.att.netatt >127.0.0.1 localhost >192.168.1.2 playground play >192.168.1.3 south40 s40 >192.168.1.1 router ># --- end hosts > ># /etc/networks >default0.0.0.0 >loopback 127.0.0.0 >link-local 169.254.0.0 >localnet 192.168.1.0 ># --- end networks > ># /etc/resolv.conf >domain attlocal.net >search attlocal.net >nameserver 192.168.1.254 ># --- end resolv.conf > ># /etc/network/interfaces ># This file describes the network interfaces available on your system ># and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5). > ># The loopback network interface >auto lo >iface lo inet loopback > ># The primary network interface >allow-hotplug eth1 ># eth0 = onboard eth port >iface eth0 inet dhcp ># eth1 = 3Com PCI 3c905C card >iface eth1 inet static >address 192.168.1.2 >netmask 255.255.255.0 >network 192.168.1.0 >broadcast 192.168.1.255 ># dns-* options are implemented by the resolvconf package, if installed >dns-nameservers 208.67.222.222 208.67.220.220 ># --- end interfaces > >-- >"I reckon some folks figure it a compliment to be called >'broad-minded.' >Back home, broad-minded is just another way of saying a feller is too >lazy to form an opinion."- Will Rogers You put eth0 and eth1 into the same network segment. That most likely is your problem Either you bridge eth0 and eth1 or if you want your linux box as a firewall you pick a different ntwork for eth1 -- Henning Follmann
Re: Matrox G550 + mga driver hangs system
I tried to net install Stretch to my MGA550 machine, but kept getting segfaults trying to configure network. So I restored a backup image of Jessie from another machine to my MGA550 machine. It worked normally, so I dist-upgraded it to Stretch on vtty 3. When done, I logged into :1 using startx with a good TDE session. Then I exited and logged in in the greeter. That worked too. I logged out, then tried to log back in, and got a black screen and no keyboard response. I rebooted, and tried various cmdline options and switching back and forth between graphical and multi-user targets for over an hour. Sometimes I'd get black screen and no keyboard response. Sometimes X would start and immediately exit. Sometimes a segfault would show up in dmesg. Sometimes a segfault would show up in Xorg.0.log. I had a bug almost ready to file before figuring out using multi-user.target how to reliably get a working TDE session using this kernel cmdline: root=LABEL=SS25deb9 ipv6.disable=1 net.ifnames=0 noresume vga=791 iomem=relaxed I'm actually starting via a script, /usr/local/bin/tdestart: #!/bin/sh WINDOWMANAGER=/opt/trinity/bin/starttde startx xserver-xorg-legacy is installed, and /usr/bin/Xorg perms are set to 4711. Adding drm.debug=1 or drm.debug=0x0e to cmdline causes black screen, no KBD response, and the following in dmesg & the journal: kernel: mtrr: no MTRR for f400,200 found kernel: [drm] Initialized kernel: [drm] Supports vblank timestamp caching Rev 2 (21.10.2013). kernel: [drm] No driver support for vblank timestamp query. kernel: [drm] Initialized mga 3.2.1 20051102 for :01:00.0 on minor 0 -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/
