Re: Missing HDMI display

[Felix Miata]

Michael Milliman composed on 2017-08-01 21:22 (UTC-0500):

> With a little more research, I have found that the HDMI interface is
> detected and shows up on the xrandr output.  However, it shows up as
> being disconnected, even though it is indeed connected.  I note that I
> have checked both the cable and the the connector on the monitor (HDTV
> in this case) and they both are good -- both windows on the same
> laptop, and the HDMI outputs of two different Android tablets work with
> the TV on their HDMI ports using the same cable and input on the TV.

> I have done a little additional research on the web, and found a couple
> of similar situations, but I have been unable to get xrandr to show the
> HDMI port as connected.

What does Xorg.0.log say? Share the whole thing via paste.debian.net (optionally
pastebinit via cmdline).

I suspect you're going to need specialized help due to some bug. Where to go I
can't be sure, because nothing you've written makes it completely unambiguous
whether the HDMI port is controlled by a proprietary NVidia driver or one of the
FOSS drivers. https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c05567143 doesn't seem to
help either.

If it's only NVidia showing up in the log, you probably need to goto NVidia's
support forum. If Intel is showing up in the log, then I'd start with the
intel-...@lists.freedesktop.org mailing list so that Intel's driver devs can
take a look. For the latter,
https://01.org/linuxgraphics/documentation/how-report-bugs has rather explicit
instructions to consider.
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determining which apps have entries in the applications menu in xfce

[Dan Hitt]

I'm using a pretty vanilla debian 9 with xfce.

There's an Applications menu in the upper left which has lots and lots
of applications listed under multiple submenus.

There's a program that i have on my system whose name i cannot find in
the Applications menu.

However, that might just be because i conducted a defective search.

So i'm wondering if there's a systematic way to determine if the
program is in the menu.  (Presumably it is a matter of looking in
/usr/bin or something like that, although that cannot be the complete
solution as there are a few thousand programs in /usr/bin, and they
cannot all fit in the menu.  So i suspect there's a list somewhere . .
. )

TIA for any clues on this,

dan

Re: need help on running mplayer to watch tv

[deloptes]

Nicolas George wrote:

> You realize that 75% of the options are useless for the specific task at
> hand, right? You can add this boilerplate to your own commands, but when
> giving public advice, better trim them.
> 

If they were useless I wouldn't use them

> Also, Long Wind had the video working with tv://, so suggesting dvb://
> will not work, you could have anticipated that.

I didn't get that. Suggesting alternative is always a good option.
But note taken.

regards

Re: Darn 'beep' stoped working after installing Stretch in place of Jessie

[Gene Heskett]

On Tuesday 01 August 2017 23:52:48 Ralph Katz wrote:

> On 08/01/2017 01:21 PM, Dejan Jocic wrote:
> > On 01-08-17, RavenLX wrote:
> >> On 08/01/2017 11:17 AM, Dejan Jocic wrote:
> >>> On 01-08-17, RavenLX wrote:
>  Having it work out-of-the-box would be nice. After a fresh
>  install, I have a bash script I run that installs all the apps I
>  use and configures them. Sometimes though, there are things that
>  a user needs to answer. Thus, if I want to have the script
>  running and go do something else, I want to "beep" when it's
>  going to need attention by the user. I noticed this does not work
>  in Stretch so I ended up removing the part to install the "beep"
>  package and use beep to alert the user. I have tried escape codes
>  via echo -e as well, and no beep there either.
> >>>
> >>> Does printf "\a" works for you? Though, echo -e "\a" works here
> >>> too.
> >>
> >> I just now tried it in Konsole. Nope, doesn't work.
> >
> > I do not have Konsole here and did not use it for a long time, but
> > in Xterm there are setting for terminal bell, so there are in
> > gnome-terminal. Perhaps there are those settings in Konsole too.
> > Under preferences, or some such thing.
>
> I once had this issue in xfce.  Check .config/Terminal/terminalrc for
> the line:
> MiscBell=TRUE
>
> Regards,
> Ralph

Thank you, I've been looking for that since Hector was puppy.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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Writer se cierra al arrancar.

[Rubén Ibáñez]

Estimados listeros:

He actualizado recientemente a la versión 9 de Debian. Libre office
funcionó bien al principio, pero de pronto Writer ha dejado de hacerlo. Se
cierra después de mostrar el logo de inicio. ¿A alguien más le ha sucedido?
¿Hay una solución conocida? Se trata de una máquina de 32 bits.
Aclaro que me inscribí a la lista en inglés, pero no a esta en español.
Ahora no sé si debo inscribirme nuevamente.
Muchas gracias por anticipado.

Rubén Ibáñez.

Re: Darn 'beep' stoped working after installing Stretch in place of Jessie

[Ralph Katz]

On 08/01/2017 01:21 PM, Dejan Jocic wrote:
> On 01-08-17, RavenLX wrote:
>> On 08/01/2017 11:17 AM, Dejan Jocic wrote:
>>> On 01-08-17, RavenLX wrote:
 Having it work out-of-the-box would be nice. After a fresh install, I have 
 a
 bash script I run that installs all the apps I use and configures them.
 Sometimes though, there are things that a user needs to answer. Thus, if I
 want to have the script running and go do something else, I want to "beep"
 when it's going to need attention by the user. I noticed this does not work
 in Stretch so I ended up removing the part to install the "beep" package 
 and
 use beep to alert the user. I have tried escape codes via echo -e as well,
 and no beep there either.

>>>
>>> Does printf "\a" works for you? Though, echo -e "\a" works here too.
>>
>> I just now tried it in Konsole. Nope, doesn't work.
>>
> 
> I do not have Konsole here and did not use it for a long time, but in
> Xterm there are setting for terminal bell, so there are in
> gnome-terminal. Perhaps there are those settings in Konsole too. Under
> preferences, or some such thing.
> 

I once had this issue in xfce.  Check .config/Terminal/terminalrc for
the line:
MiscBell=TRUE

Regards,
Ralph





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(solved)Re: need help on running mplayer to watch tv

[Long Wind]

I have installed smplayer, it's not very helpful. where is gmplayer?

I can use mixer to get TV sound, but can't use mplayer to adjust sound volume

but my final goal is not get tv sound work in mplayer
(i can use xawtv)
my goal is to use mencoder to record tv programs

i will try mencorder, maybe without audio at first

Thank all those who reply!

Re: Missing HDMI display

[Michael Milliman]

On Mon, 2017-07-31 at 18:20 -0500, Michael Milliman wrote:
> On Sun, 2017-07-30 at 19:23 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
> Thanks, Felix...
> > Michael Milliman composed on 2017-07-30 15:32 (UTC-0500):
> > 
> > > Ok, guys.  I'm working on getting Debian 9.1 with Gnome DEfully
> > > functional with a new laptop.  A couple of the issues have been
> > > addressed already, and fixed.  The next issue is a missing HDMI
> > > output.
> > > I'm running a very new HP Pavilion Power laptop (model number 15-
> > > cb045wm with core i7-7700 CPU, Intel Kabylake HD Graphics GT2,
> > > and
> > > NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 GPU.  The laptop has an HDMI connector on
> > > the
> > > side, and it works with Windows 10.  However, the HDMI display
> > > does
> > > not
> > > show up under linux.  The HDMI output does show up under
> > > Pulseaudio,
> > > though it appears to be non-functional, i.e., when I set the
> > > configuration up for HDMI output, nothing comes out through the
> > > HDMI
> > > connection.  I have no real idea how to troubleshoot this issue,
> > > and
> > > suspect that this system may be new enough that the drivers have
> > > not
> > > caught up with the chipset, and so I may be out of luck for a
> > > little
> > > while.
> > > I have searched the debian-user list archive and found nothing
> > > that
> > > appeared to be useful.  Any information one of you Gurus might
> > > have
> > > will be appreciated.
> > 
> > Sounds to me like your key search terms should have been 'linux
> > hybrid graphics'
> > or 'debian hybrid graphics', and you don't have any of the possible
> > candidates
> > installed.
> > 
> > https://wiki.debian.org/Bumblebee looks like a place to start.
> 
> Check out this link, and installed the proprietary NVIDIA driver
> along
> with Bumblebee.  This solved another problem when the NVIDIA driver
> was
> installed which caused GDM to crash on boot.  However, this did not
> solve the issue with the HDMI output.  I still show only the main
> display in gnome-control-center, no HDMI display.
> 
> I suspect, therefore, that the problem is with the other VGA device
> showing on lspci: 
> VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Device
> [8086:591b] (rev 04)
> which shows as "Intel Kabylake HD Graphics GT2" in
> /sys/bus/devices/:00:02.0/label
> 
> > 
> > These should be useful even though not intended for Debian:
> > https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PRIME
> > https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/NVIDIA_Optimus
> 
> Note that there does not appear to be an Intel Optimus device on the
> system, the NVIDIA card if an Intel GeForce GTX.
With a little more research, I have found that the HDMI interface is
detected and shows up on the xrandr output.  However, it shows up as
being disconnected, even though it is indeed connected.  I note that I
have checked both the cable and the the connector on the monitor (HDTV
in this case) and they both are good -- both windows on the same
laptop, and the HDMI outputs of two different Android tablets work with
the TV on their HDMI ports using the same cable and input on the TV.

I have done a little additional research on the web, and found a couple
of similar situations, but I have been unable to get xrandr to show the
HDMI port as connected.

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Re: Re: Stretch, pulseaudio and bluetooth headphones

[jesse mckeown]

Dear Mark,

You asked if anyone else had seen "this", which was only getting mono
output; I am not having exactly "that" but another problem, which is that
the bluetooth device manager doesn't remember that I want the a2dp sink and
not the hsp/hfp sink --- which wouldn't be a problem if hsp/hfp didn't hang
any process trying to sink sound through it.

--Jesse

Re: how to run a second copy of firefox in a separate address space with no connection to the first?

[der.hans]

Am 30. Jul, 2017 schwätzte rpr // so:


On 30 July 2017 at 22:05, Curt  wrote:


I'm not quite following here. -no-remote allows you to run multiple
Firefox instances simultaneously (profile1 and profile2 at the same
time, let's say). However you cannot open external links in the
-no-remote instance (link in an email, for example--perhaps that's what
you mean by "do not want the links automatically opened to open in this
instance").


Curt, have a look at the following page that explains -no-remote and
other command line options in more detail:
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Command_Line_Options


Implies -new-instance. Hmm, might have to move to -no-remote.

As to keeping things completely separate, beware flash and other
applications that have per user cookies. Flash cookies, less known as local
share objects, are stored in ~/ rather than in
~/.Mozilla/firefox/$random.$profile_name.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_shared_object

It's been a while since I audited to see what all cheats.

Using another account ( the sudo tip elsewhere ) or a container will give
better separation.

I like containers for my test or single-use environments because I can
easily move the container if I need it elsewhere. Destruction when no
longer needed is also complete.

ciao,

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[Fungi4All]

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Re: Live recording

[Fungi4All]

> UTC Time: August 1, 2017 10:45 PM
> From: delop...@gmail.com
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Rodolfo Medina wrote:
>> Rodolfo Medina  writes:
>>
>>> What I want to do is recording live piano: I"d like to use two mics for
>>> that,
>>> one on the grave and the other one on the high notes. Besides, some
>>> times I will need to add human voice: this requires, in my idea, a third
>>> microphone... But even starting with two would be all right for now...
>>> Those recordings would not pretend to be professional, just home made for
>>> my personal tests, but stereo.
>>
>>
>> Thanks all for the abundant information and suggestions of possible
>> solutions. As much as I can understand, the simplest solution for me to
>> live recording with several microphones is to buy a - say - 6 channel
>> mixer and plug it into the line-in PC entry...
>>
>> Rodolfo
> The simplest way is to use external mixer, but look forward to get one with
> the inputs for low/high impedance (input for mic and line) for each
> channel. Some simple mixers have only 1-2 low (mic) inputs and more high
> inputs. The mic inputs on the mixer are 3 contacts/wires. The line inputs
> are 2 or could be 3 - stereo. Here for example
> http://www.studiomasterprofessional.com/product/item/209
> You could however go the cheep way and play with multiple usb/pci audio
> cards, jack and free audio software
> If you want to experiment with linux and audio recording, you could look for
> a supported multichannel audiocards and play with jack or audacity or some
> other free software which will spare the external mixer.

My cheap and primitive way was to use two pc,s if you already have them, and
record two mono tracks, then use mixing software to align them and blend them.
There is plenty of such software available on debian and the quality is within 
the
guidelines of your mic quality, placement, echo/background noise.
I use headphones for the backing track and rarely use a second mic for guitar
then blend the two. As I have been away from home and haven't done it for a
while don't ask me for names of packages.

Re: Live recording

[deloptes]

Rodolfo Medina wrote:

> Rodolfo Medina  writes:
> 
>> What I want to do is recording live piano: I'd like to use two mics for
>> that,
>> one on the grave and the other one on the high notes.  Besides, some
>> times I will need to add human voice: this requires, in my idea, a third
>> microphone...  But even starting with two would be all right for now...
>> Those recordings would not pretend to be professional, just home made for
>> my personal tests, but stereo.
> 
> 
> Thanks all for the abundant information and suggestions of possible
> solutions. As much as I can understand, the simplest solution for me to
> live recording with several microphones is to buy a - say - 6 channel
> mixer and plug it into the line-in PC entry...
> 
> Rodolfo

The simplest way is to use external mixer, but look forward to get one with
the inputs for low/high impedance (input for mic and line) for each
channel. Some simple mixers have only 1-2 low (mic) inputs and more high
inputs. The mic inputs on the mixer are 3 contacts/wires. The line inputs
are 2 or could be 3 - stereo. Here for example
http://www.studiomasterprofessional.com/product/item/209

You could however go the cheep way and play with multiple usb/pci audio
cards, jack and free audio software
If you want to experiment with linux and audio recording, you could look for
a supported multichannel audiocards and play with jack or audacity or some
other free software which will spare the external mixer. 

Re: how to run a second copy of firefox in a separate address space with no connection to the first?

[Fungi4All]

> From: dan.h...@gmail.com
> To: Sven Hartge 
> debian-user@lists.debian.org 
> Thanks Sven, and also Erwan, Curt, rpr, and Felix,
> On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 11:54 AM, Sven Hartge  wrote:
>> Dan Hitt  wrote:
>>
>>> I would like to run a second copy of firefox in debian, that is
>>> completely unconnected to the first.
>>
>>> That is, the second copy should not share history, cookies, any kind
>>> of storage, passwords, configuration, or anything else with the first.
>>> It should be possible to send a signal to one (such as kill) without
>>> the other being aware of it.
>>
>>> In essence it should run parallel to firefox like a clone (e.g., Pale
>>> Moon), except using the same binary. (But i"d be willing to copy the
>>> binary if there were an easy way to just change its name to firefox2
>>> or something.)
>>
>> Make a new user on your system, and start firefox as that user via sudo,
>> adding the option "--no-remote" to the firefox command line.
>>
>> You might need to add
>>
>> Defaults env_reset,env_keep+="DISPLAY XAUTHORITY"
>>
>> to your /etc/sudoers to allow any programm running as the other user
>> access to your X session.
> This is a very good solution for my particular use case.
> I had actually used profiles before, but not so satisfactorily. But
> that was some years ago, and may have been due to my general
> ineptness.
> My only modification on the solution is to use "xhost +" instead of
> giving extra privs to the new user. This is all on a very isolated
> lan so hopefully no holes there.
> It has the advantage that i"m certain that information from one
> firefox cannot possibly leak into the other. And one side effect,
> which i think can sometimes be an advantage, is that the downloads
> cannot mix either.
> dan

All good ideas if you trust mozilla to behave itself.
You can also run it in jail with firejail for example. It is like a little 
container just for firefox.
My 2c on top of all those good suggestions.
Also try gksu if you have a 2nd user.

Re: Arquitetura i386 para amd64

[Henrique de Moraes Holschuh]

Olha, trocar um Debian de i386 para amd64 é possível via "Multiarch".
Chamamos isso de "cross-grade".  Mas é uma dor de cabeça que não é
recomendada nem para quem é usuário avançado.

Se for simples reinstalar, reinstale.  Se não for, e quiser tentar um
cross-grade, *FAÇA BACKUP FULL INCLUSIVE DO SISTEMA* e boa sorte (porque
vai precisar):

https://wiki.debian.org/CrossGrading
http://collab.debian.net/portal/planet-debian/jose-m.-calhariz-crossgrading-a-complex-desktop-and-debian-developer-machine-running-debian-9

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Re: utilitaires usuels du système

[Pascal Hambourg]

Le 01/08/2017 à 13:13, Alexandre Hoïde a écrit :


   Traduction [approximative] de
https://wiki.debian.org/tasksel#A.22standard.22_task

La tâche « utilitaires usuels du système » est une tâche spéciale de
l'installateur Debian. Elle repose sur le paquet « priority ».


Non, elle repose sur la "priorité" des paquets.
Elle installe les paquets de priorité "standard", qui sont loin d'être 
tous utiles à mon avis.

Re: Live recording

[Rodolfo Medina]

Rodolfo Medina  writes:

> What I want to do is recording live piano: I'd like to use two mics for that,
> one on the grave and the other one on the high notes.  Besides, some times I
> will need to add human voice: this requires, in my idea, a third
> microphone...  But even starting with two would be all right for now...
> Those recordings would not pretend to be professional, just home made for my
> personal tests, but stereo.


Thanks all for the abundant information and suggestions of possible solutions.
As much as I can understand, the simplest solution for me to live recording
with several microphones is to buy a - say - 6 channel mixer and plug it into
the line-in PC entry...

Rodolfo

Re: Arquitetura i386 para amd64

[Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete DUTRA]

Le mardi 01 août 2017 à 20:33 +, Paulo Alexandre A.P. de Oliveira a
écrit :
> Em princípio se não houver umas magias de shellscript, tens que
> reinstalar com amd64

Não há, é impossível.  Um SO de 32 bits não tem como executar código 64
bits, porque ele não tem como gerir os endereços de memória maiores que
32 bits.  Ele até pode alocar mais de 64 bits de memória, mas isso é o
PAE, portanto ainda 32 bits para cada programa.


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Re: Arquitetura i386 para amd64

[Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete DUTRA]

Le mardi 01 août 2017 à 20:13 +, Valentim Carlos a écrit :
> gostaria de saber se tem como migrar a Arquitetura
> Estrangeira i386 para amd64 ?

Não.  Não há como um SO 32 bits executar código 64.


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Re: Arquitetura i386 para amd64

[Paulo Alexandre A.P. de Oliveira]

Em princípio se não houver umas magias de shellscript, tens que
reinstalar com amd64 especificando isso mesmo no processo de instalação.
Depois se precisares de I386, é só correr o dpkg --add-architecture i386.

Cumprimentos,

Paulo.


On 01-08-2017 20:13, Valentim Carlos wrote:
> Boa tarde,
>
> Estou com uma máquina Debian em arquitetura i386 porém com processador
> amd64, não sei o motivo pelo qual foi instalado 32 bits, todas outras
> máquinas que instalei, estão em amd64 e em multiarch nas necessidades.
> Bom, gostaria de saber se tem como migrar a Arquitetura Estrangeira
> i386 para amd64 ?
>
> Obrigado
>
> Valentim Carlos

Re: Arquitetura i386 para amd64

[Valentim Carlos]

Okay Obrigado.


Em 01 de ago de 2017 às 13:31, Vinicius Melo  escreveu:


Boa!

Terá de fazer um backup dos arquivos e reinstalar o sistema, não existe
outra forma (pelo menos até onde eu saiba)

Valeu.


On 01-08-2017 17:13, Valentim Carlos wrote:

Boa tarde,


Estou com uma máquina Debian em arquitetura i386 porém com processador
amd64, não sei o motivo pelo qual foi instalado 32 bits, todas outras
máquinas que instalei, estão em amd64 e em multiarch nas necessidades.
Bom, gostaria de saber se tem como migrar a Arquitetura Estrangeira
i386 para amd64 ?


Obrigado


Valentim Carlos

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Arquitetura i386 para amd64

[Valentim Carlos]

Boa tarde,



Estou com uma máquina Debian em arquitetura i386 porém com processador amd64, 
não sei o motivo pelo qual foi instalado 32 bits, todas outras máquinas que 
instalei, estão em amd64 e em multiarch nas necessidades. Bom, gostaria de 
saber se tem como migrar a Arquitetura Estrangeira i386 para amd64 ?



Obrigado



Valentim Carlos

Re: Problem pulseaudio

[MENGUAL Jean-Philippe]

Hi,

You probably are right, Nicolas, that is what I thought at first
reading. However I tried. And it seems to work. I will try in more
various situations and let you informed of the success of the thing.
Many thanks Juan.

Best regards,


Le 01/08/2017 à 20:47, Nicolas George a écrit :
> Le quartidi 14 thermidor, an CCXXV, Juan R. de Silva a écrit :
>>> If I run mplayer in CLI, everything is good. If cron does it, no sound.
>> I had a similar problem when wanted to run vlc in a crontab. The solution 
>> was to execute in crontab the following command:
>>
>> env DISPLAY=:0 /home/your_username/full_path_goes_here/play_something.sh
> 
> Setting the DISPLAY environment variable is for video, not for audio as
> in Jean-Philippe's problem.
> 
> Regards,
> 

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Re: Hardware compatible

[Simó Albert i Beltran]

una mica més genèric: https://linuxpreloaded.com/

Re: RE : Re: utilitaires usuels du système

[Pierre L.]

Oui idem, jamais posé la question auparavant,
et là ca m'a démangé d'un coup quand ca a ressurgit à l'install ! Bon !

Merci pour ton lien ;)

Cheers



Le 01/08/2017 à 20:34, nat a écrit :
> Bonsoir, 
> J'avoue que je ne m'étais jamais posé la question,  je l'installe
> toujours. 
> Une liste plus concise qui sera peut être plus parlante que celle
> fournie par Alexandre :
> http://csmojo.com/posts/what-debian-standard-system-utilities-include.html
>
> Cheers
>
> 《Nat》
>
>  Message d'origine 
> De : "Pierre L."
> Date :01/08/2017 14:12 (GMT+01:00)
> À : debian-user-french@lists.debian.org
> Objet : Re: utilitaires usuels du système
>
> Bon je n'ai pas de bol, aptitude n'a pas l'air d'être présent dans le
> système par défaut.
>
> Bref, j'aperçois quelques bonnes commandes qui sont généralement
> utilisées. Bon ca peut être ma foi bien utile !
>
> Effectivement, la commande suivant me renvoie aucun résultat :
> tasksel --task-packages standard
>
> Et au passage, pour les curieux, ma Debian9 retourne à la commande :
> # tasksel --list-tasks
> u desktop   environnement de bureau Debian
> u gnome-desktop GNOME
> u xfce-desktop  Xfce
> u kde-desktop   KDE
> u cinnamon-desktop  Cinnamon
> u mate-desktop  MATE
> u lxde-desktop  LXDE
> u web-serverserveur web
> u print-server  serveur d'impression
> i ssh-serverserveur SSH
> u laptopordinateur portable
>
> J'imagine donc que le "u" devant une task informe que celle-ci n'est pas
> installée, à contrario du "i" qui lui indique sa présence dans le système.
>
> Merci pour ton message Alexandre ;)
>
>
> Le 01/08/2017 à 13:13, Alexandre Hoïde a écrit :
> >   Le résultat de la commande donne des motifs de recherche équivalents
> > à la commande :
> >   $ aptitude search ~pstandard ~prequired ~pimportant -F%p
> >
> >   [Laquelle donne, sur mon système Sid, la liste ci-jointe]
>




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Re: Darn 'beep' stoped working after installing Stretch in place of Jessie

[Dejan Jocic]

On 01-08-17, RavenLX wrote:
> On 08/01/2017 11:17 AM, Dejan Jocic wrote:
> > On 01-08-17, RavenLX wrote:
> > > Having it work out-of-the-box would be nice. After a fresh install, I 
> > > have a
> > > bash script I run that installs all the apps I use and configures them.
> > > Sometimes though, there are things that a user needs to answer. Thus, if I
> > > want to have the script running and go do something else, I want to "beep"
> > > when it's going to need attention by the user. I noticed this does not 
> > > work
> > > in Stretch so I ended up removing the part to install the "beep" package 
> > > and
> > > use beep to alert the user. I have tried escape codes via echo -e as well,
> > > and no beep there either.
> > > 
> > 
> > Does printf "\a" works for you? Though, echo -e "\a" works here too.
> 
> I just now tried it in Konsole. Nope, doesn't work.
> 

I do not have Konsole here and did not use it for a long time, but in
Xterm there are setting for terminal bell, so there are in
gnome-terminal. Perhaps there are those settings in Konsole too. Under
preferences, or some such thing.

Re: [DNG] Yes I am an attorney. - Re: Identity of OP (Software written by contractors and the 'work for hire') concept - To Bruce Perens

[susin]

Prescient analysis! (of the legal ramifications of doing nothing in this 
case!)

Well done sir!

How about someone who is studied in the law to a degree greater than a 
draft animal responding instead?


(Basically you said: I don't understand! Why should I care! And then you 
went back to your labor for whomever your master is)


On 2017-08-01 18:44, Rowland Penny wrote:

On Tue, 01 Aug 2017 18:15:37 +
su...@firemail.cc wrote:


Explain exactly how I was "wasting" your time. You responded with
derision and mockery when I brought up laches; as if it was no issue.

..
.

ARRRGGG is this guy for real, can he not take a hint ?

IF not, here it is a lot more bluntly:

Go away, you are not welcome here, you just talk a lot of twaddle that
has nothing really to do with Devuan, you are just taking up bandwidth,
I repeat (using an old english saying) SLING YOUR HOOK!

Rowland
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Re: Darn 'beep' stoped working after installing Stretch in place of Jessie

[RavenLX]

On 08/01/2017 01:13 PM, Juan R. de Silva wrote:

On Tue, 01 Aug 2017 17:17:05 +0200, Dejan Jocic wrote:


On 01-08-17, RavenLX wrote:

Having it work out-of-the-box would be nice. After a fresh install, I
have a bash script I run that installs all the apps I use and
configures them. Sometimes though, there are things that a user needs
to answer. Thus, if I want to have the script running and go do
something else, I want to "beep" when it's going to need attention by
the user. I noticed this does not work in Stretch so I ended up
removing the part to install the "beep" package and use beep to alert
the user. I have tried escape codes via echo -e as well, and no beep
there either.



Does printf "\a" works for you? Though, echo -e "\a" works here too.


printf "\a" and echo -e "\a" work, as well as all other versions of
echo like:
echo -e \\a
echo -e '\a'
echo -en '\x07'
echo -en "\x07"

However neither of them produces an expecting "beep sound" (do not
confuse with 'beep' comand/utility). Exsecuting any of the above
produces default system "Sounds Effects" sound instead.


When I tried it in Konsole (the printf and the echo -e "\a" lines) I got 
no sound. In Xterm I got the default beep that I don't think is from the 
sound subsystem. Sounded very much like a standard terminal beep.

Re: Darn 'beep' stoped working after installing Stretch in place of Jessie

[RavenLX]

On 08/01/2017 11:24 AM, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:

On Tue, 01 Aug 2017, Dejan Jocic wrote:

On 01-08-17, RavenLX wrote:

Having it work out-of-the-box would be nice. After a fresh install, I have a
bash script I run that installs all the apps I use and configures them.
Sometimes though, there are things that a user needs to answer. Thus, if I
want to have the script running and go do something else, I want to "beep"
when it's going to need attention by the user. I noticed this does not work
in Stretch so I ended up removing the part to install the "beep" package and
use beep to alert the user. I have tried escape codes via echo -e as well,
and no beep there either.


Does printf "\a" works for you? Though, echo -e "\a" works here too.


If it doesn't, you likely must fiddle with "digital beep" controls in
the sound subsystem.  Check alsa (alsactl, amixer...) and pulse audio
(pauvcontrol).  And try it from an xterm or the Linux text-mode console
just to make sure the beep ioctl is actually being issued...



That's weird. I tried it in XTerm and it works. It doesn't in Konsole 
though. I think you might be right about the sound subsystem. Seems like 
a lot to go through though to set up terminal beeps in Konsole. I guess 
maybe in my particular case (note that I am *not* the OP), I may just 
have to run my script from XTerm if I want beep notifications.

Re: Darn 'beep' stoped working after installing Stretch in place of Jessie

[RavenLX]

On 08/01/2017 11:17 AM, Dejan Jocic wrote:

On 01-08-17, RavenLX wrote:

Having it work out-of-the-box would be nice. After a fresh install, I have a
bash script I run that installs all the apps I use and configures them.
Sometimes though, there are things that a user needs to answer. Thus, if I
want to have the script running and go do something else, I want to "beep"
when it's going to need attention by the user. I noticed this does not work
in Stretch so I ended up removing the part to install the "beep" package and
use beep to alert the user. I have tried escape codes via echo -e as well,
and no beep there either.



Does printf "\a" works for you? Though, echo -e "\a" works here too.


I just now tried it in Konsole. Nope, doesn't work.

Re: need help on running mplayer to watch tv

[John Conover]

deloptes writes:
> Long Wind wrote:
> 
> > i can watch tv with xawtv
> > now i want to use mplayer
> > 
> > mplayer -tv driver=v4l2:width=640:height=480:input=1 -vo xv tv://
> >

mplayer tv://3 -tv device=/dev/video-tv

(for video coming in on channel 3 of the TV card, driver in
/dev/video-tv,) and:

amixer -c 0 sset Capture '72%,72%' cap
amixer -c 0 sset 'Input Source' Line
amixer -c 0 sset PCM '74%,74%' unmute
amixer -c 0 sset Line '74%,74%' unmute

else, piddle with pulseaudio(1).

John

BTW, for a WinTV card, 38101, lspci(1):

Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Video Capture (rev 
11)

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RE : Re: utilitaires usuels du système

[nat]

Bonsoir, 
J'avoue que je ne m'étais jamais posé la question,  je l'installe toujours. 
Une liste plus concise qui sera peut être plus parlante que celle fournie par 
Alexandre :
http://csmojo.com/posts/what-debian-standard-system-utilities-include.html

Cheers

《Nat》

 Message d'origine De : "Pierre L." 
 Date :01/08/2017  14:12  (GMT+01:00) 
À : debian-user-french@lists.debian.org Objet : Re: 
utilitaires usuels du système 
Bon je n'ai pas de bol, aptitude n'a pas l'air d'être présent dans le
système par défaut.

Bref, j'aperçois quelques bonnes commandes qui sont généralement
utilisées. Bon ca peut être ma foi bien utile !

Effectivement, la commande suivant me renvoie aucun résultat :
tasksel --task-packages standard

Et au passage, pour les curieux, ma Debian9 retourne à la commande :
# tasksel --list-tasks
u desktop   environnement de bureau Debian
u gnome-desktop GNOME
u xfce-desktop  Xfce
u kde-desktop   KDE
u cinnamon-desktop  Cinnamon
u mate-desktop  MATE
u lxde-desktop  LXDE
u web-serverserveur web
u print-server  serveur d'impression
i ssh-serverserveur SSH
u laptopordinateur portable

J'imagine donc que le "u" devant une task informe que celle-ci n'est pas
installée, à contrario du "i" qui lui indique sa présence dans le système.

Merci pour ton message Alexandre ;)


Le 01/08/2017 à 13:13, Alexandre Hoïde a écrit :
>   Le résultat de la commande donne des motifs de recherche équivalents
> à la commande :
>   $ aptitude search ~pstandard ~prequired ~pimportant -F%p
>
>   [Laquelle donne, sur mon système Sid, la liste ci-jointe]

Re: Problem pulseaudio

[Nicolas George]

Le quartidi 14 thermidor, an CCXXV, Juan R. de Silva a écrit :
> > If I run mplayer in CLI, everything is good. If cron does it, no sound.
> I had a similar problem when wanted to run vlc in a crontab. The solution 
> was to execute in crontab the following command:
> 
> env DISPLAY=:0 /home/your_username/full_path_goes_here/play_something.sh

Setting the DISPLAY environment variable is for video, not for audio as
in Jean-Philippe's problem.

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Re: Problem pulseaudio

[Juan R. de Silva]

On Tue, 01 Aug 2017 08:30:57 +0200, MENGUAL Jean-Philippe wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> 
> My purpose is to run mplayer in a crontab. My line:
> 
> 00 00 * * * mplayer file
> 
> 
> If I run mplayer in CLI, everything is good. If cron does it, no sound.
> And log is: Audio becomes stuck!
> 
> 
> displayed permanently in the MPlayer screen.
> 
> 
> I use a fresh testing.
> 
> 
> I have just changed to mpv. Here no such logs after crontab, but still
> no sound.
> 
> 
> How can I get more logs? Should I reportbug to mpv or pulseaudio? Where
> could I check? Not a permission problem on Pulseaudio as cron user would
> run mpv instead of my regular user?
> 

I had a similar problem when wanted to run vlc in a crontab. The solution 
was to execute in crontab the following command:

env DISPLAY=:0 /home/your_username/full_path_goes_here/play_something.sh

play_something.sh contained actual bash command to run vlc with path to an 
mp3 file to play.

This way vlc get the required environment variable set by desktop session.

Re: [DNG] Yes I am an attorney. - Re: Identity of OP (Software written by contractors and the 'work for hire') concept - To Bruce Perens

[susin]

Explain exactly how I was "wasting" your time. You responded with 
derision and mockery when I brought up laches; as if it was no issue. 
Then you made a claim that a court would accept a _plaintiff's_ claim 
that they just had to sit on their rights because they "had no money to 
hire a lawyer" when the court would simply inform said plaintiff that 
they can bring the action pro-se. There is not a right council in civil 
cases even for indigent defendants, and you mock me for bringing up 
laches when attempting to obtain injunctive relief when we are talking 
about a plaintiff in a civil case?


Courts don't even accept a civil defendants claim that they cannot pay 
an ordered judgement (where the court believes they money exist 
"somewhere" and the defendant is holding out) owing to the fact that the 
court had them jailed for contempt of court for six months prior and 
thus defendant had no means of raising said funds. Back in the slammer 
for another six months, over and over again. No, Bruce. A middle class 
programmer trying to defeat a laches affirmative defense, when he is of 
sound mind and body, solely with a claim of inability... will not work.


I brainstorm some of the affirmative defenses the opposition WILL use, 
and you mock me and put my reputation as it pertains to legal knowledge 
in a negative false light. This is when you, Bruce, are not an attorney 
and are thus not likely involved in the lengthy run-up to your court 
appearances (as an expert witness), where-as I am an attorney and must 
anticipate such road-blocks.



Here's another attorney on the LKML warning another poster about some... 
hmmm.. affirmative defenses ... such as laches and friends.

On 2017-07-30 07:14, David C. Rankin wrote:

On 07/30/2017 12:55 AM, David Lang wrote:
You are thinking of Trademarks, they must be defended or you loose 
them.
Contracts and Licenses do not need to be defended at every chance or 
risk

loosing them.


No, not always, it can apply in plain contract as well. The defenses 
that
could be later raised by grsecurity if this issue goes unaddressed is 
are (1)
latches; and (2) waiver. It is a slippery slope. While, without 
commenting on

the dubious nature of the current use of the defenses (as catch-all,
kitchen-sink affirmative-defenses), they can be expected to be raised 
if
rights under GPL to insure no further restrictions are placed on 
subsequent

use of the kernel-code are not enforced.

I hope there is a centralized forum that will be established for this 
issue
(there may be and I'm just not smart enough to have found it yet). 
Certainly,
if for nothing else, so the advantages and disadvantages of both 
action, and

inaction, can be peer-reviewed on both the legal and technical side.

https://lkml.org/lkml/2017/7/31/449


For the record here's what Bruce Perens had to say about me:



OK, I apologize to all who were involved in this conversation. I will
block further emails from "aconcernedfossdev" and no longer encourage
him.

Bruce

https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/07/msg00830.html


(later a third party asked him why):

The statement about Grsecurity still stands. Aconcernedfossdev was
wasting my time with naive argument and I don't have to suffer fools
gladly.

Thanks

Bruce




On 2017-08-01 15:04, Bruce Perens wrote:

The person posting as "nisus" is "MikeyUSA", who is mostly known for
way-over-the-top misogyny and trolling and is banned from Debian
lists, etc. Obviously I have the right to choose who I will correspond
with, and chose to block him for wasting my time before I was informed
who he actually was.
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Re: Darn 'beep' stoped working after installing Stretch in place of Jessie

[Jude DaShiell]

On Tue, 1 Aug 2017, Juan R. de Silva wrote:


Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2017 13:14:32
From: Juan R. de Silva 
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Darn 'beep' stoped working after installing Stretch in place of
Jessie
Resent-Date: Tue,  1 Aug 2017 17:15:27 + (UTC)
Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org

On Tue, 01 Aug 2017 11:54:34 -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote:


Maybe modprobe pcspkr might be helpful too.


Unfortunatelly it wasn't.

Have you tried adjusting grub?  I'm thinking of GRUB-INIT-TUNE= line in 
/etc/default/grub and then recreating grub again?  If the system already 
beeps on boot, this will have already been done and will not help.






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Re: Recuperar Sistema

[Alejandro Matos]

Hola Agustín,

Tengo entendido que para restaurar, sólo deberías copiar los archivos de /
(asumo que sin incluir /boot) a otro sistema funcional y eso debería ser
todo lo necesario.

Nos comentas!
Alejandro


El 17 de julio de 2017, 2:10, agustín torrijos orenes <
agustintorrijosore...@gmail.com> escribió:

> Buenas días! Me llamo Agustín, y ante todo quisiera agradecerles el
> trabajo tan extraordianrio que realizan todos los integrantes de este
> maravilloso proyecto, inluida la comunidad.
>
>
> Tengo un problema con la versión Testing que que paso a explicar:
>
>
> Instalé la versión 9.0 “Stretch” mirando con los repositorios a testing,
> estoy casi seguro que actualizó a la versión 10.0 “Buster”.
>
>
> Realicé una limpieza del sistema con las instrucciones “autoclean, clean,
> revome, autoremove”, y parece ser que desinstalé todos los kernel.
>
>
> Cuando reinicié ya no pude entrar al Grub, sólo salía unas instrucciones
> que solicitaban mi contraseña, pero al introducirla no sucedía nada.
>
>
> Quisiera saber si es posible restaurar el sistema, y de qué forma.
>
>
>
> Gracias, y un saludo…
>

Re: need help on running mplayer to watch tv

[Nicolas George]

Le quartidi 14 thermidor, an CCXXV, deloptes a écrit :
> As most of tv now is digital, I used following to watch tv from a dvb stick
> 
> mplayer -ontop -framedrop -nocache -stop-xscreensaver -input
> conf=~/.mplayer/input.conf -tv
> driver=v4l2:outfmt=yv12:width=720:height=576:device=/dev/dvb/adapter0/dvr0:input=0:tdevice=/dev/vbi0:tlang=1:tformat=0:tpage=100:forceaudio:immediatemode=0:adevice=/dev/dsp1:amode=1:forcechan=2:audiorate=44100:audioid=0:volume=75
>  -dvbin
> file=~/.mplayer/channels.conf.ter -vo xv -ao
> alsa:noblock:audiorate=44100:device=default dvb://

You realize that 75% of the options are useless for the specific task at
hand, right? You can add this boilerplate to your own commands, but when
giving public advice, better trim them.

Also, Long Wind had the video working with tv://, so suggesting dvb://
will not work, you could have anticipated that.

Regards,

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Re: need help on running mplayer to watch tv

[deloptes]

Long Wind wrote:

> i can watch tv with xawtv
> now i want to use mplayer
> 
> mplayer -tv driver=v4l2:width=640:height=480:input=1 -vo xv tv://
> 
> command above is right, but there's no sound
> tv sound is connected to linein of sound card
> which options should i add??
> 
> Thanks!

As most of tv now is digital, I used following to watch tv from a dvb stick

mplayer -ontop -framedrop -nocache -stop-xscreensaver -input
conf=~/.mplayer/input.conf -tv
driver=v4l2:outfmt=yv12:width=720:height=576:device=/dev/dvb/adapter0/dvr0:input=0:tdevice=/dev/vbi0:tlang=1:tformat=0:tpage=100:forceaudio:immediatemode=0:adevice=/dev/dsp1:amode=1:forcechan=2:audiorate=44100:audioid=0:volume=75
 -dvbin
file=~/.mplayer/channels.conf.ter -vo xv -ao
alsa:noblock:audiorate=44100:device=default dvb://

you can check in the documentation easily what each option means and adjust
as needed.

regards

Re: Darn 'beep' stoped working after installing Stretch in place of Jessie

[Juan R. de Silva]

On Tue, 01 Aug 2017 11:54:34 -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote:

> Maybe modprobe pcspkr might be helpful too.

Unfortunatelly it wasn't.

Re: Darn 'beep' stoped working after installing Stretch in place of Jessie

[Juan R. de Silva]

On Tue, 01 Aug 2017 17:17:05 +0200, Dejan Jocic wrote:

> On 01-08-17, RavenLX wrote:
>> Having it work out-of-the-box would be nice. After a fresh install, I
>> have a bash script I run that installs all the apps I use and
>> configures them. Sometimes though, there are things that a user needs
>> to answer. Thus, if I want to have the script running and go do
>> something else, I want to "beep" when it's going to need attention by
>> the user. I noticed this does not work in Stretch so I ended up
>> removing the part to install the "beep" package and use beep to alert
>> the user. I have tried escape codes via echo -e as well, and no beep
>> there either.
>> 
>> 
> Does printf "\a" works for you? Though, echo -e "\a" works here too.

printf "\a" and echo -e "\a" work, as well as all other versions of 
echo like:
echo -e \\a
echo -e '\a'
echo -en '\x07'
echo -en "\x07"

However neither of them produces an expecting "beep sound" (do not 
confuse with 'beep' comand/utility). Exsecuting any of the above 
produces default system "Sounds Effects" sound instead.

Re: need help on running mplayer to watch tv

[Wilko Fokken]

On Tue, Aug 01, 2017 at 04:52:48AM +0800, Long Wind wrote:
> i can watch tv with xawtv
> now i want to use mplayer
> 
> mplayer -tv driver=v4l2:width=640:height=480:input=1 -vo xv tv://
> 
> command above is right, but there's no sound
> tv sound is connected to linein of sound card
> which options should i add??
> 
> Thanks!


Did yout try 'smplayer'?
It's menues saved my day.

Additionally, 'smplayer' shows the params to be used by 'mplayer'.

Re: Darn 'beep' stoped working after installing Stretch in place of Jessie

[Jude DaShiell]

Maybe modprobe pcspkr might be helpful too.

On Tue, 1 Aug 2017, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:


Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2017 11:24:05
From: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh 
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Darn 'beep' stoped working after installing Stretch in place of
Jessie
Resent-Date: Tue,  1 Aug 2017 15:24:25 + (UTC)
Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org

On Tue, 01 Aug 2017, Dejan Jocic wrote:

On 01-08-17, RavenLX wrote:

Having it work out-of-the-box would be nice. After a fresh install, I have a
bash script I run that installs all the apps I use and configures them.
Sometimes though, there are things that a user needs to answer. Thus, if I
want to have the script running and go do something else, I want to "beep"
when it's going to need attention by the user. I noticed this does not work
in Stretch so I ended up removing the part to install the "beep" package and
use beep to alert the user. I have tried escape codes via echo -e as well,
and no beep there either.


Does printf "\a" works for you? Though, echo -e "\a" works here too.


If it doesn't, you likely must fiddle with "digital beep" controls in
the sound subsystem.  Check alsa (alsactl, amixer...) and pulse audio
(pauvcontrol).  And try it from an xterm or the Linux text-mode console
just to make sure the beep ioctl is actually being issued...




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Re: Darn 'beep' stoped working after installing Stretch in place of Jessie

[Henrique de Moraes Holschuh]

On Tue, 01 Aug 2017, Dejan Jocic wrote:
> On 01-08-17, RavenLX wrote:
> > Having it work out-of-the-box would be nice. After a fresh install, I have a
> > bash script I run that installs all the apps I use and configures them.
> > Sometimes though, there are things that a user needs to answer. Thus, if I
> > want to have the script running and go do something else, I want to "beep"
> > when it's going to need attention by the user. I noticed this does not work
> > in Stretch so I ended up removing the part to install the "beep" package and
> > use beep to alert the user. I have tried escape codes via echo -e as well,
> > and no beep there either.
> 
> Does printf "\a" works for you? Though, echo -e "\a" works here too.

If it doesn't, you likely must fiddle with "digital beep" controls in
the sound subsystem.  Check alsa (alsactl, amixer...) and pulse audio
(pauvcontrol).  And try it from an xterm or the Linux text-mode console
just to make sure the beep ioctl is actually being issued...

-- 
  Henrique Holschuh

Re: Darn 'beep' stoped working after installing Stretch in place of Jessie

[Dejan Jocic]

On 01-08-17, RavenLX wrote:
> Having it work out-of-the-box would be nice. After a fresh install, I have a
> bash script I run that installs all the apps I use and configures them.
> Sometimes though, there are things that a user needs to answer. Thus, if I
> want to have the script running and go do something else, I want to "beep"
> when it's going to need attention by the user. I noticed this does not work
> in Stretch so I ended up removing the part to install the "beep" package and
> use beep to alert the user. I have tried escape codes via echo -e as well,
> and no beep there either.
> 

Does printf "\a" works for you? Though, echo -e "\a" works here too.

Re: compartir carpetas debian windows

[JAP]

El 01/08/17 a las 10:59, Ismael L. Donis Garcia escribió:

- Original Message - From: "JAP" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2017 8:14 AM
Subject: Re: compartir carpetas debian windows



El 31/07/17 a las 19:28, Dulasoft escribió:
¿COMO PUTOS COMPARTO UNA CARPETA EN DEBIAN 9 PARA PASAR ARCHIVOS A 
WINDOSWS 7'





Adhiero totalmente a lo que Rolan te dice.
En todo.
La ignorancia que puedas tener, no te excusa de ser un maleducado.


Vamos a lo técnico.

Si el servido es Linux, lo mejor no es liarse con samba, si no obligar 
a Windows a ser un cliente de Linux como debe ser.

Por mil motivos distintos, es mucho mejor.

En el servidor Debian instala nfs-common y nfs-kernel-server.

En el cliente Windows activa la característica de Windows "Servicios 
NFS".


Acá te dejo algunos tutoriales:

http://es.lmgtfy.com/?s=d=1=Debian+activar+acceso+a+carpeta+nfs

http://es.lmgtfy.com/?s=d=windows+acceder+a+carpeta+de+red+nfs


JAP



Es posible utilizar NFS si las PC de Windows tienen Windows XP?

No puedo consultar esto en la red porque estoy off line.

Saludos
--
ISMAEL




Sí, pero hay que bajar un programa desde Microsoft.
https://technet.microsoft.com/es-es/interopmigration/bb380242

Espero que siga funcionando, pues acuérdate que WinXP dejó de recibir 
soporte hace unos años ya.


En Windows 7 y 10 ya viene en el DVD de instalación, creo que para las 
versiones Enterprise y Ultimate.


Para el resto, hay que bajar ese agregado.

JAP

Re: compartir carpetas debian windows

[Ismael L. Donis Garcia]

- Original Message - 
From: "JAP" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2017 8:14 AM
Subject: Re: compartir carpetas debian windows



El 31/07/17 a las 19:28, Dulasoft escribió:
¿COMO PUTOS COMPARTO UNA CARPETA EN DEBIAN 9 PARA PASAR ARCHIVOS A 
WINDOSWS 7'





Adhiero totalmente a lo que Rolan te dice.
En todo.
La ignorancia que puedas tener, no te excusa de ser un maleducado.


Vamos a lo técnico.

Si el servido es Linux, lo mejor no es liarse con samba, si no obligar a 
Windows a ser un cliente de Linux como debe ser.

Por mil motivos distintos, es mucho mejor.

En el servidor Debian instala nfs-common y nfs-kernel-server.

En el cliente Windows activa la característica de Windows "Servicios NFS".

Acá te dejo algunos tutoriales:

http://es.lmgtfy.com/?s=d=1=Debian+activar+acceso+a+carpeta+nfs

http://es.lmgtfy.com/?s=d=windows+acceder+a+carpeta+de+red+nfs


JAP



Es posible utilizar NFS si las PC de Windows tienen Windows XP?

No puedo consultar esto en la red porque estoy off line.

Saludos
--
ISMAEL

Re: compartir carpetas debian windows

[JAP]

JAP, ¿pero NFS que soporta Windows no tiene algunos problemas con los nombres 
largos o algunos códigos en los nombres?

Creo recordar algunos problemas alguna vez que lo instalé...


Saludos y gracias,

Ramses



En teoría, desde Windows 7 está solucionado.
Pero uno nunca sabe.

Es raro que alguien use nombres TAN largos.

Sí se lía con el tema de las mayúsculas.
Acordate que "Nombre de archivo", "NOMBRE DE ARCHIVO", "Nombre De 
Archivo", y todas las combinaciones que se te ocurran, para Windows son 
lo mismo.


Es más, en samba hay que cambiar una bandera (flag) para evitar estos 
problemas.


JAP

Re: compartir carpetas debian windows

[Ramses]

El 1 de agosto de 2017 14:14:53 CEST, JAP  
escribió:
>El 31/07/17 a las 19:28, Dulasoft escribió:
>>> ¿COMO PUTOS COMPARTO UNA CARPETA EN DEBIAN 9 PARA PASAR ARCHIVOS A 
>>> WINDOSWS 7'
>> 
>
>
>Adhiero totalmente a lo que Rolan te dice.
>En todo.
>La ignorancia que puedas tener, no te excusa de ser un maleducado.
>
>
>Vamos a lo técnico.
>
>Si el servido es Linux, lo mejor no es liarse con samba, si no obligar
>a 
>Windows a ser un cliente de Linux como debe ser.
>Por mil motivos distintos, es mucho mejor.
>
>En el servidor Debian instala nfs-common y nfs-kernel-server.
>
>En el cliente Windows activa la característica de Windows "Servicios
>NFS".
>
>Acá te dejo algunos tutoriales:
>
>http://es.lmgtfy.com/?s=d=1=Debian+activar+acceso+a+carpeta+nfs
>
>http://es.lmgtfy.com/?s=d=windows+acceder+a+carpeta+de+red+nfs
>
>
>JAP

JAP, ¿pero NFS que soporta Windows no tiene algunos problemas con los nombres 
largos o algunos códigos en los nombres?

Creo recordar algunos problemas alguna vez que lo instalé...


Saludos y gracias,

Ramses

[SOLVED] Re: KDE: GIMP tool tips are blank

[RavenLX]

On 07/29/2017 06:04 AM, Curt wrote:

On 2017-07-28, RavenLX  wrote:

I am using the default theme "Breeze" for both GTK and KDE (ie. never
changed it) in KDE. Whenever I use gimp and hover over something, the
tool tip is blank. Now I am not so sure if it's GTK related or not
because when I hover over something in Thunderbird, the tool tips are
black with white letters.


Appearance -> Colors (in System Settings)
"Apply colors to non-KDE4 applications"
uncheck the checkbox?


That worked! Thank you.

Re: Darn 'beep' stoped working after installing Stretch in place of Jessie

[RavenLX]

On 07/31/2017 05:21 PM, Juan R. de Silva wrote:

Hi folks,

I installed (fresh install instead of an upgrade) Debian Stretch on my laptop.
The installation is full success without any problem except a little one -
'beep' does not produce a sound neither from CLI nor from a bash scripts. I had
Jessie installed on the same laptop before and it worked just fine.

I checked everything I possibly could: pcspkr module loaded, alsa does not have
any muted channels, tried to use it as a user and as a root. No clue why it does
not work any longer in Strech.

Any suggestions?

Thanks.


I've noticed that as well. I'm very sorry I don't know if my experiences 
below is a solution for you (or at all) but maybe my saying something 
might mean others won't think as I first did that it was my hardware or 
something. Sound does work fine in my system. I even tried adjusting the 
sound levels and setting notifications for system beep. Nothing seemed 
to work.


Having it work out-of-the-box would be nice. After a fresh install, I 
have a bash script I run that installs all the apps I use and configures 
them. Sometimes though, there are things that a user needs to answer. 
Thus, if I want to have the script running and go do something else, I 
want to "beep" when it's going to need attention by the user. I noticed 
this does not work in Stretch so I ended up removing the part to install 
the "beep" package and use beep to alert the user. I have tried escape 
codes via echo -e as well, and no beep there either.


As for more information, I've tried this in a regular non-GUI shell 
(before installing a desktop environment) and also while in Konsole 
(KDE's terminal program). It did not work.


Now, if you install beep *after* you have installed your desktop 
environment, then it *does* work when you type "beep" at the Konsole 
prompt and in bash scripts.


I don't know why this is other than maybe you have to have your sound 
system pre-installed.


I don't know if this information would help you. I am beginning to 
wonder also if the update to 9.1 fixed things. I had the experience with 
9.0.


Another thing to try is to update your system to 9.1 and see if that 
fixes it.

Re: Yes you have standing to sue GRSecurity - Two options that can be used in concert or separately

[nisus]

Thank you Mr. Rankin for saying this. Bruce Perens blocked me* (also 
calling me a "fool" later to a 3rd party) after I started to brainstorm 
the defenses that would be raised about a week or two ago: letting 
everyone in the world know what he thought of me for mentioning laches 
etc.


Such talk is naivete to him and he "doesn't suffer fools willingly".

Brainstorming what defenses the opposition will raise is the thinking of 
a naive fool according to Bruce Perens.


I also noticed that Bruce Perens friend Professor Moglen hasn't 
commented, instead opting to sit and silently judge, but I did bring up 
the fact that GPL v2 lacks a no-revocation clause, thus (barring 
estopple) said license can be revoked at any time by the grantor. Which 
is the actual reason v3 of the GPL needed to be drafted (the patents 
issue being a foil). I guess Professor Moglen (RMS, ESR) and the rest 
don't want too many people to know about that part either and thus would 
rather downplay anything else I have written.


To be clear: Rights-Holders can sue GRSecurity for the copyright 
violation stemming from the flagrant violation of section 6 of the 
license. Rights-Holders can also revoke GRSecurity's license to their 
code by notice and then sue them if they continue to make derivative 
works of said work. So Rights-Holders have two options there at their 
disposal.


The GPL v2, by itself, does not give rise to an estopple situation where 
there has been no communication to the other party that they relied upon 
that the license would never be revoked by Rights-Holder.


The permission flows from the Rights-Holder and not through 
intermediaries. Thus even if Linus made communications that HE would 
never revoke the permission he has given regarding his works of 
authorship, that does not bind other Rights-Holders regarding their 
code.



*(  lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/07/msg00830.html )



On 2017-07-30 07:14, David C. Rankin wrote:

On 07/30/2017 12:55 AM, David Lang wrote:
You are thinking of Trademarks, they must be defended or you loose 
them.
Contracts and Licenses do not need to be defended at every chance or 
risk

loosing them.


No, not always, it can apply in plain contract as well. The defenses 
that
could be later raised by grsecurity if this issue goes unaddressed is 
are (1)
latches; and (2) waiver. It is a slippery slope. While, without 
commenting on

the dubious nature of the current use of the defenses (as catch-all,
kitchen-sink affirmative-defenses), they can be expected to be raised 
if
rights under GPL to insure no further restrictions are placed on 
subsequent

use of the kernel-code are not enforced.

I hope there is a centralized forum that will be established for this 
issue
(there may be and I'm just not smart enough to have found it yet). 
Certainly,
if for nothing else, so the advantages and disadvantages of both 
action, and

inaction, can be peer-reviewed on both the legal and technical side.

Yes I am an attorney. - Re: [DNG] Identity of OP (Software written by contractors and the 'work for hire') concept

[nisus]

Yes I am a licensed attorney.
No I am not going to give you my registration number nor am I going to 
show you my bar card.


I'm sure you will keep on libeling me...
All my legal analysis has been correct however, you might ponder why 
that is so...


Rick Moen and Adam Borowski: I am a licensed attorney. My legal analysis 
of the GRSecurity situation is correct. I am telling you to cease 
libeling me by spreading false rumors.


You seem to think because it is your belief that I oppose you on some 
un-related social issue that it is just *impossible* for me to have 
passed an exam at some point.


Others think it impossible, for a similar reason, for me to be a 
programmer, or a 3d video-game level architect, or a texture artist, or 
a pixel artist, hobby musician, etc etc.


They are wrong, so are you. I am all these things. From programmer, to 
artist, to attorney.



(in response to:)
Author: Rick Moen
Date: 2017-07-29 19:43 UTC
To: dng
Subject: Re: [DNG] Software written by contractors and the 'work for 
hire' concept

Quoting Adam Borowski (kilobyte@???):

[falsely claiming to be an attorney:]>


Isn't this illegal in the US?


A false statement that one is an attorney isn't (as far as I know).

Giving legal advice without being a licensed attorney in the

applicable jurisdiction is, that being a violation of one's state
Unauthorized[1] Practice of Law statute.


There's an important fine point, though, about what is and isn't giving
legal advice. To be in violation, one must be performing acts reserved
to attorneys in consultation with clients or prospective clients about
their specific legal situations. (Discussing this matter further would
veer too far off-topic, IMO, so I'm keeping it short. Please talk to me
offlist if you wish.)

[1] I'd normally write 'unauthorised', but it's a proper noun. ;->
http://linuxmafia.com/~rick/faq/misc.html#english

Kernel development cycle

[solitone]

Hi, please help me understand some general practices involved in kernel 
development. 
Specifically, I'm interested in how patches are included or reverted in 
different kernel 
versions.

Let's consider a practical example, the history of patch "drm/i915/execlists: 
Reset RING 
registers upon resume" [1]. This patch was committed 641 commits after version 
4.8-rc2:

$ git describe bafb2f7d4755bf1571bd5e9a03b97f3fc4fe69ae
v4.8-rc2-641-gbafb2f7d4755

So I would expect to find it in version 4.8, which is the stable, final release 
of v4.8, following 
all the release canditates.

However, if I search for the tag that follows (and hence contains) that commit, 
I do not find 
version 4.8, nor version 4.9, but 4.10:

$ git describe --contains bafb2f7d4755bf1571bd5e9a03b97f3fc4fe69ae
v4.10-rc1~154^2~44^2~178

Why? Why not v4.8-rc3? This means that the patch has been included neither in 
v4.8 nor in 
v4.9, but only in version 4.10-rc1, right? Why so much time was needed, 
considering it was 
the 621st commit on top ov v4.8-rc2?

Another thing that confuses me is the following. In fact that patch ended up in 
v4.9.9 [2]. If 
my reasoning above is correct, it was backported from v4.10, right?

Then some problems were reported, and it was reverted in v4.9.23 with commit 
0ee72d8f9b8e17b8e4ccfebc7a25cbc2d395cd6a [3]. (What led to the decision of 
reverting it 
is explained in  [4] and [5]).

So my question now is--what version contains this patch? Is it true that I find 
it in v4.10? 

Stretch currently provides kernel version 4.9.30:

$ uname -v
#1 SMP Debian 4.9.30-2+deb9u2 (2017-06-26)

Since v4.9.30 follows v4.9.23, the patch is not be included in Stretch's 
kernel, so this 
explains why I'm experiencing the bug addressed by this patch. 

Thanks for your help.

[1] https://patchwork.freedesktop.org/patch/111587/
[2] https://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v4.x/ChangeLog-4.9.9
[3] https://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v4.x/ChangeLog-4.9.23
[4] https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=100221#c10
[5] http://mid.mail-archive.com/1489443835.5568.7.camel@mailbox.org
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Re: compartir carpetas debian windows

[JAP]

El 31/07/17 a las 19:28, Dulasoft escribió:
¿COMO PUTOS COMPARTO UNA CARPETA EN DEBIAN 9 PARA PASAR ARCHIVOS A 
WINDOSWS 7'





Adhiero totalmente a lo que Rolan te dice.
En todo.
La ignorancia que puedas tener, no te excusa de ser un maleducado.


Vamos a lo técnico.

Si el servido es Linux, lo mejor no es liarse con samba, si no obligar a 
Windows a ser un cliente de Linux como debe ser.

Por mil motivos distintos, es mucho mejor.

En el servidor Debian instala nfs-common y nfs-kernel-server.

En el cliente Windows activa la característica de Windows "Servicios NFS".

Acá te dejo algunos tutoriales:

http://es.lmgtfy.com/?s=d=1=Debian+activar+acceso+a+carpeta+nfs

http://es.lmgtfy.com/?s=d=windows+acceder+a+carpeta+de+red+nfs


JAP

Re: Problem pulseaudio

[Greg Wooledge]

On Tue, Aug 01, 2017 at 08:30:57AM +0200, MENGUAL Jean-Philippe wrote:
> My purpose is to run mplayer in a crontab. My line:
> 
> 00 00 * * * mplayer file

But your *Subject* header says "Problem pulseaudio".  I presume this
means you are using pulseaudio.

When you invoke mplayer from cron, it does not have any of the
environment variables that your desktop session sets.  No DISPLAY
or XAUTHORITY to talk to the X server, no TERM to define which
set of terminal escape sequences to use (and no controlling terminal
in the first place), and -- relevant to you -- no pulseaudio environment
variables.

See 

> If I run mplayer in CLI, everything is good. If cron does it, no sound.
> And log is: Audio becomes stuck!

Probably because in the absence of the pulseaudio variables, mplayer
cannot talk to your pulseaudio daemon.

If it were *me*, I would simply remove pulseaudio and stop attempting
to use it.  But you probably run some kind of Desktop Environment which
relies on it, so I'm guessing that's not an option for you.

The second idea that comes to mind would be for you to dump your desktop
session's environment variables to a file upon login, and then source
that file from a bash script invoked by cron when you want to run mplayer.

The problem with this is, I have no idea when or how the pulseaudio
environment variables get set (since I don't use it).  Thus, I don't
know where to put the command to dump the variables to a file.

But assuming you can figure that out, create the following *bash script*
and put it somewhere:

#!/bin/bash
declare -px > ~/.cache/env-variables

At login, arrange for it to run from *wherever* it's supposed to run
from.  That's the part I can't guess.  Happy hunting.

Then from cron, call a second *bash script* that runs this:

#!/bin/bash
source ~/.cache/env-variables
mplayer file

Do not put these commands directly inside crontab, because those commands
run under sh, not bash.

Re: utilitaires usuels du système

[Pierre L.]

Bon je n'ai pas de bol, aptitude n'a pas l'air d'être présent dans le
système par défaut.

Bref, j'aperçois quelques bonnes commandes qui sont généralement
utilisées. Bon ca peut être ma foi bien utile !

Effectivement, la commande suivant me renvoie aucun résultat :
tasksel --task-packages standard

Et au passage, pour les curieux, ma Debian9 retourne à la commande :
# tasksel --list-tasks
u desktop   environnement de bureau Debian
u gnome-desktop GNOME
u xfce-desktop  Xfce
u kde-desktop   KDE
u cinnamon-desktop  Cinnamon
u mate-desktop  MATE
u lxde-desktop  LXDE
u web-serverserveur web
u print-server  serveur d'impression
i ssh-serverserveur SSH
u laptopordinateur portable

J'imagine donc que le "u" devant une task informe que celle-ci n'est pas
installée, à contrario du "i" qui lui indique sa présence dans le système.

Merci pour ton message Alexandre ;)


Le 01/08/2017 à 13:13, Alexandre Hoïde a écrit :
>   Le résultat de la commande donne des motifs de recherche équivalents
> à la commande :
>   $ aptitude search ~pstandard ~prequired ~pimportant -F%p
>
>   [Laquelle donne, sur mon système Sid, la liste ci-jointe]



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Re: need help on running mplayer to watch tv

[Dan Ritter]

On Tue, Aug 01, 2017 at 04:52:48AM +0800, Long Wind wrote:
> i can watch tv with xawtv
> now i want to use mplayer
> 
> mplayer -tv driver=v4l2:width=640:height=480:input=1 -vo xv tv://
> 
> command above is right, but there's no sound
> tv sound is connected to linein of sound card
> which options should i add??

Googling suggests you add this to your v4l2 spec:

:device=/dev/video0:forceaudio:audiorate=32000 

but I don't really know.

-dsr-

Re: utilitaires usuels du système

[Alexandre Hoïde]

On Tue, Aug 01, 2017 at 12:06:05PM +0200, Pierre L. wrote:
> Salut,
> 
> Partant pour une petite install de Debian 9 dans Virtualbox,
> je viens ici demander à quoi correspond, au moment de la "Sélection des
> logiciels" :
> "utilitaires usuels du système"
> 
> Disons que je me sens un peu idiot de ne pas avoir réussi à trouver une
> liste sur le net des paquets/softwares qui sont proposés dans ce menu du
> chef !
> 
> Merci d'avance pour vos lumières ;)

  Salut Pierre,

  Traduction [approximative] de
https://wiki.debian.org/tasksel#A.22standard.22_task

La tâche « utilitaires usuels du système » est une tâche spéciale de
l'installateur Debian. Elle repose sur le paquet « priority ».

Que contient cette tâche :
  $ taskel --task-packages standard
  ~pstandard
  ~prequired
  ~pimportant
  [commentaire : cette commande ne semble pas fonctionner lorsque la
tâche a été sélectionnée à l'installation…]

  Le résultat de la commande donne des motifs de recherche équivalents
à la commande :
  $ aptitude search ~pstandard ~prequired ~pimportant -F%p

  [Laquelle donne, sur mon système Sid, la liste ci-jointe]
 
  \o/

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utilitaires usuels du système

[Pierre L.]

Salut,

Partant pour une petite install de Debian 9 dans Virtualbox,
je viens ici demander à quoi correspond, au moment de la "Sélection des
logiciels" :
"utilitaires usuels du système"

Disons que je me sens un peu idiot de ne pas avoir réussi à trouver une
liste sur le net des paquets/softwares qui sont proposés dans ce menu du
chef !

Merci d'avance pour vos lumières ;)



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Problem pulseaudio

[MENGUAL Jean-Philippe]

Hi,


My purpose is to run mplayer in a crontab. My line:

00 00 * * * mplayer file


If I run mplayer in CLI, everything is good. If cron does it, no sound.
And log is: Audio becomes stuck!


displayed permanently in the MPlayer screen.


I use a fresh testing.


I have just changed to mpv. Here no such logs after crontab, but still
no sound.


How can I get more logs? Should I reportbug to mpv or pulseaudio? Where
could I check? Not a permission problem on Pulseaudio as cron user would
run mpv instead of my regular user?



Best regards,


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