date:20170816

On Wednesday 16 August 2017 21:05:58 Pascal Hambourg wrote:
> Le 16/08/2017 à 12:13, andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit :
> > Sun mon serveur chez Online, au début,
> > mon unique disque dur était nommé bizarrement "sdc",

> Normalement, s'il y a un périphérique /dev/sdc, c'est qu'il y a ou il y 
> a eu un /dev/sda et un /dev/sdb.
> 
> > J'ai modifié sdc => sda

> Peux-tu décrire comment tu as fait ? Cela m'intéresse :
ça fait si longtemps,
Online nous a livré le serveur comme ça, avec un seul disque dur,
/dev/sdc

> > corrigé le fichier /etc/fstab,

> On peut voir le contenu de /etc/fstab avant/après ?
> Tu n'utilisais pas les UUID ou autres identifiants persistants ? C'est 
> risqué.

Désolé mais corrigé, tous les /dev/sdcX sont devenus /dev/sdaX,
je n'ai pas gardé l'ancien :-)

> > Si je tape :
> > # e2fsck /dev/sda2
> > Il me répond que "sdc2" est propre et non sda2 !
 
> D'après mes tests, "sdc2" n'est pas le nom de périphérique de la 
> partition (qui serait /dev/sdc2) mais l'étiquette (label) de son système 
> de fichiers, qui est arbitraire et n'a rien à voir avec le nom de 
> périphérique :

Oui, c'était le nom du label et non le périphérique :
/dev/sdaX , label /dev/sdcX

Grub :
> Aucun rapport ni aucun intérêt ici. Ce fichier sert uniquement à faire 
> la correspondance entre les noms de périphériques sous Linux (/dev/sdX) 
> et les noms de périphériques sous GRUB (hdN). Ça ne sert à rien si on 
> utilise les UUID ou labels pour désigner les partitions dans grub.cfg, 
> comme on devrait le faire et comme c'est le cas par défaut :

Même avec l'info UUID, Grub ne voyait pas ces partitions, juste /dev/sda1

> > chmod +x /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober
> > a résolu le problème, Grub enregistre maintenant toutes les
> > partitions bootables.
> 
> Si je comprends bien, quelqu'un avait modifié les permissions de ce 
> fichier pour qu'il ne soit plus exécuté au lieu de le désactiver 
> proprement dans /etc/default/grub avec GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER=true ou de 
> désinstaller le paquet os-prober auquel il appartient ?
> C'est pas joli joli... :

Faudra le dire à notre admin-sys :-)

GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER=true : arrête la détection des partitions
GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER=false : valide la détection des partitions :
Right ?

André

Re: debian-users archive broken?

2017-08-16 Thread Nicholas Geovanis

On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 1:53 PM, Brian  wrote:

> On Wed 16 Aug 2017 at 13:27:30 -0500, Nicholas Geovanis wrote:
>
> > FYI just noticed that the debian-user archives have not been updated
> since
> > 10 August.
>
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/08/thrd2.html
>
> gives me the mail you have posted. You will have to be more specific.
> How did you access the archives, for example.
>
>
You are correct and I am mistaken. Thanks.


> --
> Brian.
>
>

Re: Nommage partitions + grub

2017-08-16 Thread Pascal Hambourg


Le 16/08/2017 à 12:13, andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit :


Sun mon serveur chez Online, au début,
mon unique disque dur était nommé bizarrement "sdc",


Normalement, s'il y a un périphérique /dev/sdc, c'est qu'il y a ou il y 
a eu un /dev/sda et un /dev/sdb.



J'ai modifié sdc => sda


Peux-tu décrire comment tu as fait ? Cela m'intéresse.


corrigé le fichier /etc/fstab,


On peut voir le contenu de /etc/fstab avant/après ?
Tu n'utilisais pas les UUID ou autres identifiants persistants ? C'est 
risqué.



Si je tape :
# e2fsck /dev/sda2
e2fsck 1.42.13 (17-May-2015)
sdc2 : propre, 1600481/19537920 fichiers...
Pareil pour les autres partitions.

Il me répond que "sdc2" est propre et non sda2 !


D'après mes tests, "sdc2" n'est pas le nom de périphérique de la 
partition (qui serait /dev/sdc2) mais l'étiquette (label) de son système 
de fichiers, qui est arbitraire et n'a rien à voir avec le nom de 
périphérique.

Re: debian-users archive broken?

2017-08-16 Thread Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희, 黃炳熙)

On Wed 16 Aug 2017 at 13:27:30 -0500, Nicholas Geovanis wrote:

> FYI just noticed that the debian-user archives have not been updated since
> 10 August.

https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/08/thrd2.html

gives me the mail you have posted. You will have to be more specific.
How did you access the archives, for example.

-- 
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Re: Grub : résolu

2017-08-16 Thread Pascal Hambourg


Le 16/08/2017 à 17:19, andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit :

On Wednesday 16 August 2017 14:35:14 Frédéric MASSOT wrote:

Le 16/08/2017 à 12:13, andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit :

... si je fais un "update-grub",
le fichier grub.cfg ne comporte qu'une partition bootable = sda1.
Comment corriger le tir, ou quel fichier indique toujours que mon
disque dur = sdc ?


Pour Grub, il y a le fichier "/boot/grub/device.map" créé avec la
commande "/usr/sbin/grub-mkdevicemap".


Aucun rapport ni aucun intérêt ici. Ce fichier sert uniquement à faire 
la correspondance entre les noms de périphériques sous Linux (/dev/sdX) 
et les noms de périphériques sous GRUB (hdN). Ça ne sert à rien si on 
utilise les UUID ou labels pour désigner les partitions dans grub.cfg, 
comme on devrait le faire et comme c'est le cas par défaut.



chmod +x /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober

a résolu le problème, Grub enregistre maintenant toutes les
partitions bootables.


Si je comprends bien, quelqu'un avait modifié les permissions de ce 
fichier pour qu'il ne soit plus exécuté au lieu de le désactiver 
proprement dans /etc/default/grub avec GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER=true ou de 
désinstaller le paquet os-prober auquel il appartient ?


C'est pas joli joli...

Re: The End

Dear Eike,

Eike Lantzsch  께서 쓰시길,
 《記事 全文 <1768501.bNH75oQlMl@lxcl01> 에서》:

> Don't know if this is relevant:
> I had the problem of not pingable IP with my cable-ISP. ISP told me that they 
> are not blocking anything. Turned out that the Motorola cable modem blocked 
> the ICMP packages and it could not be convinced to let them through. 
> Lightning 
> "solved" this problem - ISP installed another modem (another brand) which I 
> can now happily configure myself and voila: IP is pingable.
>
> So maybe that it's not your ISP but the d... modem?

Thanks for kind replying. But my ISP is Samsung Galaxy smartphone (mobile
hotspot). I have no idea still. Again, thanks for your time, indeed ...

Sincerely, Byung-Hee.

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Re: Would you? Really? Why not? Dana

2017-08-16 Thread Harry Handu

hellooo 

On Thursday, 17 August 2017, 0:54, Dana Alsaffdi  wrote:
 

 
Come to my embrace – we’ll talk 
http://bitly.com/2uOZdGs

debian-users archive broken?

2017-08-16 Thread Nicholas Geovanis

FYI just noticed that the debian-user archives have not been updated since
10 August.

Re: Buster: problem changing partition size on a RAID 5 array

2017-08-16 Thread Nicholas Geovanis

On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 2:47 PM, Gary Dale  wrote:
>
> The reason its rare is more likely that Linux hasn't been able to boot
> from mdadm partitions until recently.

IIRC it's been available in Debian since lenny in 2009. But yes, if you
began using linux in, say, 1994 or so,
that's "recently" ;-)

> I'm one of those people who see little value in LVM. It just adds
> complexity without doing anything that a little planning could usually
> avoid. Of course, I'm not running a large datacentre with the need to
> frequently reallocate disk space on the fly...
>

It's hard to overstate just how much flexibility LVM brings to the table in
the day job. And if you've done any AIX work, it's basically a port of
AIX's LVM, so you already know it. Frankly I use it at home now too, disks
are big these days. AND (pet peeve...) you don't need to partition beneath
it anymore.

Re: Début de la fin pour Btrfs?

2017-08-16 Thread Alban Vidal

Bonjour,

On 08/16/2017 10:16 AM, maderios wrote:
> Un bon article en français qui démystifie un btrfs apparemment
> présenté à tort comme le système de fichiers du futur
> https://linuxfr.org/users/ar7/journaux/btrfs-et-opensuse-episode-0-l-ex-fs-du-futur
>

Merci pour l'article, j'ai bien la façon dont il est tourné.

Je dois utiliser Btrfs à mon travail, et je dois avouer ne pas le porter
dans mon cœur !

Entre autre, la commande « df » ne fonctionne pas, il faut utiliser les
outils Btrfs, et le pire est la gestion des quotas sur les sous-volumes.
Il faut jongler entre plusieurs commandes pour définir un quota et
pouvoir le visualiser (la visualisation ne fonctionne que sur l'ID, et
pas sur le nom ou le point de montage du sous-volume). Je me suis fait
un script pour ça, mais coté intuitif et « user friendly » on a déjà vu
mieux !

Je trouve bon vieux EXT ou XFS sur du LVM vraiment plus facile, et on
peut faire du Thin Provisioning, du snap, ...

Cordialement,

Alban

Re: Zou je? Echt? Waarom niet? Lena

2017-08-16 Thread Gert Beckers


You will die of cancer!

Gert Beckers
Kronkelweg, 8
B-3300 Tienen
Belgium
+32474803646



Op 16 augustus 2017 17:08:45 schreef "Lena Disastro" 
:




Kom in mijn armen – dan praten we
http://bit.ly/2wfnE3r

[DebianDay] Joyeux anniversaire Debian !

2017-08-16 Thread Alban Vidal

Bonjour à tous,

Joyeux anniversaire à Debian qui fête aujourd'hui ses 24 ans !

Elle est encore très jeune, avec un magnifique avenir devant elle !

Pour les 25 ans il serait peut être sympathique de faire une journée à
l'occasion comme dans d'autres pays ?

https://wiki.debian.org/DebianDay

https://wiki.debian.org/DebianDay/2017

Cordialement,

Alban

Re: dns secundario

2017-08-16 Thread luis

> Buenas tardes, hace rato quiero hacer lo de replicar dns, podias darme
> alguna guia si tienes de como hacerlo,
>
>
> Saludos
>
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> Nacional de Salud. La persona que envia este correo asume el compromiso de
> usar el servicio a tales fines y cumplir con las regulaciones establecidas
>
> Infomed: http://www.sld.cu/
>
Lee esto Salvador
https://aula128.wordpress.com/2014/11/16/dns-servidor-secundario-con-ubuntuserver/

http://sufriendoenredes.blogspot.com/2015/10/servidor-dns-secundario-ubuntu-1404.html

Brother hay que leer  estudiar, consulta tantans pag como puedas, as'i lo
he hecho y claro a veces pregunto a la lista cuando ya no puedo mas.

Espero que resuelvas

Re: dns secundario

2017-08-16 Thread luis

> Hola a todos
>
> Tengo 1 serv debian ver 7 con DNS primario
>
> En el segundo server tenía debian 8 con DNS secundario donde me replicaba
> del 1er dns al secundario sin problema, perfecto.
>
> Ahora en el DNS secundario isntalé debian 9 y no me replica las base de
> dados donde deben aparecer las PC de la zona directa y las rev
>
> Tenía salva de los ficheros de conf del 2do DNS, del secundario y los puse
> como tal pero no me replicad los .db donde están las ip y nombres de las
> PC.
>
> Alguna idea ??
>
> Agradezco toda ayuda
>

Ya el problema era dar permisos a la carpeta bind, g+w, espero que sirva a
muchos.
agradezco a todos

dns secundario

2017-08-16 Thread luis

Hola a todos

Tengo 1 serv debian ver 7 con DNS primario

En el segundo server tenía debian 8 con DNS secundario donde me replicaba
del 1er dns al secundario sin problema, perfecto.

Ahora en el DNS secundario isntalé debian 9 y no me replica las base de
dados donde deben aparecer las PC de la zona directa y las rev

Tenía salva de los ficheros de conf del 2do DNS, del secundario y los puse
como tal pero no me replicad los .db donde están las ip y nombres de las
PC.

Alguna idea ??

Agradezco toda ayuda

Re: Debian 7.8.0.

El 16 de agosto de 2017, 11:53, diego leon giraldo garcia
 escribió:
> no te entiendo, si leiste mi problema con la instalación? de debian 7.8
>
Estimado esta es una lista, si solo me respondes a mi solo yo veré tu
problema y si no se o no tengo tiempo no podré ayudarte, en cambio si
lo diriges a la lista alguien más lo podrá ver y ayudarte.

Recibí y ahora entiendo que estás haciendo pero ahora no tengo mucho
tiempo para darte una solución.

Se considera inapropiado en contestar al privado en una lista salvo
que se solicite expresamente.

Saludos.


> El 16 de agosto de 2017, 8:57, diego leon giraldo garcia
>  escribió:
>>
>> gracias . te aclaro.
>> si es wheezy 7.8 descargue los cd y tratando de instalar debian 7.8 al
>> terminar con el primer cd, me pregunta que si deseo analizar otro cd y le
>> digo que si, entonces me dice que ya se analizo cd1 que si deseo analizar
>> otro, le digo que si le digo que pero igual no me deja continuar con la
>> instalación no me abre la bandeja para extraer el cd1, la abro manualmente
>> ,meto el cd2 y tampoco funciona lo dejo que termine pero tampoco me pide el
>> cd2 donde esta el problema?
>> gracias
>>
>> El 16 de agosto de 2017, 8:27, Felix Perez 
>> escribió:
>>>
>>> El 16 de agosto de 2017, 01:58, diego leon giraldo garcia
>>>  escribió:
>>> > pregunto porque descargue 8 CD de debian 7.8.0. y al
>>> >>terminar con el primer cd no me deja seguir. dice que si deseo analizar
>>> >>otro cd pero no me abre la bandeja de la unidad de cd
>>>
>>> ¿Qué estás haciendo?
>>> No se entiende tu consulta.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> como hacer preguntas inteligentes:
>>> http://www.sindominio.net/ayuda/preguntas-inteligentes.html
>>>
>>
>



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Re: [solved] Re: Live recording

On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 11:16:06AM -0400, Ric Moore wrote:
> On 08/16/2017 09:40 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
> please excuse my amateur wording here. Summary: the best of
> > the best is available with jackd and Ardour, for absolutely any
> > tricky situation.
> 
> Doesn't jack require an rt kernel to enable all of it's features?? Ric

That sounds right - I certainly installed the ...-rt kernel, but I
think it just depends on your latency requirements - again from
memory, I tyhink jackd will happily run at "pulse audio" levels of
latency with a simple setting, and thereby audio will be buffered
long enough to not need an -rt kernel.

Re: Grub : résolu

On Wednesday 16 August 2017 14:35:14 Frédéric MASSOT wrote:
> Le 16/08/2017 à 12:13, andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit :
> > ... si je fais un "update-grub",
> > le fichier grub.cfg ne comporte qu'une partition bootable = sda1.
> > Comment corriger le tir, ou quel fichier indique toujours que mon  
> > disque dur = sdc ?
> 
> Pour Grub, il y a le fichier "/boot/grub/device.map" créé avec la
> commande "/usr/sbin/grub-mkdevicemap".
> Tu peux aussi utiliser la commande "tree /dev/disk/" pour voir les
> disques et leurs différents nommages.

chmod +x /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober

a résolu le problème, Grub enregistre maintenant toutes les
partitions bootables.

Merci de votre aide.

André

Re: Re: Re: No ifconfig [Was: no /etc/inittab]

2017-08-16 Thread Clive Standbridge


>  Much less was I trying to criticize you,

Oh I didn't think you were :-)


> Just trying to raise awareness about (the few) shell variation idiosyncracies
> I know about, to help making people's lives easier.

Sounds good to me.

-- 
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Clive

Re: [solved] Re: Live recording

2017-08-16 Thread Ric Moore


On 08/16/2017 09:40 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
please excuse my amateur wording here. Summary: the best of

the best is available with jackd and Ardour, for absolutely any
tricky situation.


Doesn't jack require an rt kernel to enable all of it's features?? Ric


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"There are two Great Sins in the world...
..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
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Re: xsane scanner

On Wed 16 Aug 2017 at 07:44:34 +, Stephen Brown wrote:

> -Original Message- 
> From: JP 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 9, 2017 1:50 AM 
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org 
> Subject: Re: xsane scanner 
> 
> On Tuesday, 8 August 2017 12:49:18 BST Stephen Grant Brown wrote:
> > How do I configure a scanner for xsane?
> > I am printing to the Canon MG6150, but it is not being recognized as a
> > scanner.
> 
> Should probably be supported by this:
> 
> https://manpages.debian.org/stretch/libsane-common/sane-pixma.5.en.html#FILES
> 
> You'll need to put the IP in /etc/sane.d/pixma.conf as described in that 
> section, eg. bjnp://
> 
> For my MG3250 it sometimes gives an error trying to connect the first time, 
> but 
> it wakes the scanner parts and it works the second time.
> 
> Regards
> Hi All,
> How do I edit the pixma.conf file.
> I do not know how to log into a root account.
> In a terminal su works, but I am unable to get a working text editor.

nano pixma.conf

-- 
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moi aussi

2017-08-16 Thread yves . bosc

‌

Fwd: Debian 7.8.0.

-- Mensaje enviado --
De: diego leon giraldo garcia 
Fecha: 16 de agosto de 2017, 11:04
Asunto: Re: Debian 7.8.0.
Para: Felix Perez 


ah bueno en el mensaje anterior me falto el no, si le digo que no
deseo analizar otro cd es lo mismo. que requisitos del sistema tiene
este debian? por si fuera eso. pero creo que el sistema me lo hubiera
dicho. gracias

Por favor no al privado

El 16 de agosto de 2017, 8:57, diego leon giraldo garcia
 escribió:
>
> gracias . te aclaro.
> si es wheezy 7.8 descargue los cd y tratando de instalar debian 7.8 al 
> terminar con el primer cd, me pregunta que si deseo analizar otro cd y le 
> digo que si, entonces me dice que ya se analizo cd1 que si deseo analizar 
> otro, le digo que si le digo que pero igual no me deja continuar con la 
> instalación no me abre la bandeja para extraer el cd1, la abro manualmente 
> ,meto el cd2 y tampoco funciona lo dejo que termine pero tampoco me pide el 
> cd2 donde esta el problema?
> gracias
>
> El 16 de agosto de 2017, 8:27, Felix Perez  
> escribió:
>>
>> El 16 de agosto de 2017, 01:58, diego leon giraldo garcia
>>  escribió:
>> > pregunto porque descargue 8 CD de debian 7.8.0. y al
>> >>terminar con el primer cd no me deja seguir. dice que si deseo analizar
>> >>otro cd pero no me abre la bandeja de la unidad de cd
>>
>> ¿Qué estás haciendo?
>> No se entiende tu consulta.
>>
>>
>>
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>> http://www.sindominio.net/ayuda/preguntas-inteligentes.html
>>
>



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Fwd: Debian 7.8.0.

-- Mensaje enviado --
De: diego leon giraldo garcia 
Fecha: 16 de agosto de 2017, 10:57
Asunto: Re: Debian 7.8.0.
Para: Felix Perez 


gracias . te aclaro.
si es wheezy 7.8 descargue los cd y tratando de instalar debian 7.8 al
terminar con el primer cd, me pregunta que si deseo analizar otro cd y
le digo que si, entonces me dice que ya se analizo cd1 que si deseo
analizar otro, le digo que si le digo que pero igual no me deja
continuar con la instalación no me abre la bandeja para extraer el
cd1, la abro manualmente ,meto el cd2 y tampoco funciona lo dejo que
termine pero tampoco me pide el cd2 donde esta el problema?
gracias

re-envìo a la lista. no escribas al privado.

El 16 de agosto de 2017, 8:27, Felix Perez
 escribió:
>
> El 16 de agosto de 2017, 01:58, diego leon giraldo garcia
>  escribió:
> > pregunto porque descargue 8 CD de debian 7.8.0. y al
> >>terminar con el primer cd no me deja seguir. dice que si deseo analizar
> >>otro cd pero no me abre la bandeja de la unidad de cd
>
> ¿Qué estás haciendo?
> No se entiende tu consulta.
>
>
>
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>



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Re: Re: No ifconfig [Was: no /etc/inittab]

2017-08-16 Thread tomas

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On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 02:56:01PM +0100, Clive Standbridge wrote:
> 
> > The "declare", OTOH, is pretty Bashist. But it can be replaced by
> > a simple "echo":
> 
> True. It was just a convenient way of showing that the variable hadn't
> absorbed any white space. 

Understood. Please, don't get me wrong -- I'm not an anti-Bashist, by
far (on the contrary, I'm a fan of Bash and some of its features,
actually). Much less was I trying to criticize you, who provided that
nifty script in the first place.

Just trying to raise awareness about (the few) shell variation idiosyncracies
I know about, to help making people's lives easier.

> Besides, I was just picking up the "Bash can't do it" gauntlet. I'd
> often prefer awk in such a situation (like Erik and Greg have
> mentioned).

Uh, oh. Bash can do quite a lot of things :-)

Cheers
- -- tomás
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Re: xsane scanner

2017-08-16 Thread Stephen Brown

-Original Message- 
From: JP 
Sent: Wednesday, August 9, 2017 1:50 AM 
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org 
Subject: Re: xsane scanner 

On Tuesday, 8 August 2017 12:49:18 BST Stephen Grant Brown wrote:
> How do I configure a scanner for xsane?
> I am printing to the Canon MG6150, but it is not being recognized as a
> scanner.

Should probably be supported by this:

https://manpages.debian.org/stretch/libsane-common/sane-pixma.5.en.html#FILES

You'll need to put the IP in /etc/sane.d/pixma.conf as described in that 
section, eg. bjnp://

For my MG3250 it sometimes gives an error trying to connect the first time, but 
it wakes the scanner parts and it works the second time.

Regards
Hi All,
How do I edit the pixma.conf file.
I do not know how to log into a root account.
In a terminal su works, but I am unable to get a working text editor.
Yours Sincerely
Stephen Grant Brown

Re: Re: No ifconfig [Was: no /etc/inittab]

2017-08-16 Thread Clive Standbridge


> The "declare", OTOH, is pretty Bashist. But it can be replaced by
> a simple "echo":

True. It was just a convenient way of showing that the variable hadn't
absorbed any white space. 

Besides, I was just picking up the "Bash can't do it" gauntlet. I'd
often prefer awk in such a situation (like Erik and Greg have
mentioned).

-- 
Cheers,
Clive

Re: obsolete wiki

On Wed 16 Aug 2017 at 08:28:57 -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:

> On Tuesday, August 15, 2017 01:09:54 PM Brian wrote:
> > The wiki page is at https://wiki.debian.org/Init
> > 
> > On Tue 15 Aug 2017 at 10:07:07 -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
>  
> > > Well, even a vague note on the page something like:
> > > 
> > > "Some of this seems to be out of date with the advent of systemd and its
> > > adoption in Debian starting with version n.n ().  If you
> > > can contribute anything more to this story, please do."
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ...would be a start.
> > 
> > A note is not a bad idea, but is the information on the page really
> > outdated, or is it inappropriate because it does not reflect the reality
> > in jessie and onwards? As I tried to say in another post in this thread,
> > what should the page say and how should it be structured? What should be
> > omitted and what be put in. What is the purpose of the page?
> > 
> > Sorry if I gave the impression that Felix Miata should be personally
> > responsible for any changes. The point I was trying to make was that
> > someone (or a number of someones) has to do it. Take a look at the
> > BootProcess page. The link is on the Init page; looking at that page
> > in isolation only scratches the surface of the task.
> 
> I was going to go to that page and add something like the note I mentioned, 
> and then suggest that you (Brian) and others check out that page and make 
> additional modifications as appropriate.
> 
> But, on going to that page, I see that Greg Wooledge actually modified that 
> page yesterday at 17:32 (don't know if that is UTC or something else).  Thank 
> you, Greg.
> 
> The entry in the "change log" for his changes says: 
> 
> "discuss the alternative init systems a bit, and at least attempt to describe 
> the current state of affairs"
> 
> It looks good to me (;-) but I really know nothing about what is being 
> discussed.
> 
> I'd suggest others take a look, and make modifications / additions as 
> appropriate.
> 
> Thanks again to Greg who took the bull by the horns (and, asfaict, did not 
> get 
> gored).

Looks good to me too. Just a few small changes and additions (which
hopefully polish it) made.

-- 
Brian.

RE: Coucou! vas-tu me dire un petit 'salut'? Julie

2017-08-16 Thread didier silvestre





De : didier silvestre
Envoyé : mercredi 16 août 2017 03:48
À : Julie Haching; debian-user@lists.debian.org
Objet : RE: Coucou! vas-tu me dire un petit 'salut'? Julie


bjr  julie  vient   sur  facebookpour  discuté


De : Julie Haching 
Envoyé : mardi 15 août 2017 08:18:01
À : debian-user@lists.debian.org
Objet : Coucou! vas-tu me dire un petit 'salut'? Julie


Viens qu'on discute un peu toi et moi.
http://bitly.com/2w9iOo3

Re: [solved] Re: Live recording

On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 01:42:18PM +0200, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
> Zenaan Harkness  writes:
> 
> > On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 03:03:46AM +0200, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
> >> Apparently, Audacity doesn't let you record simultaneously from two or more
> >> sources...  you have to choose one source.
> >
> > Ardour should only take half a day to start using - it absolutely
> > rocks - high end DAW FTW :D
> 
> 
> Thanks...  As far as I see, Ardour and Jack are powerful tools...  On the 
> other
> hand, with the above recording procedure, i.e. several simultaneous sessions 
> of
> sox, no drifting or latency effects did I appreciate at all...  So it is maybe
> worth for me to continue that way till the moment such problems will arise...

Indeed - if it aint broke as they say :)

Glad to hear you have achieved your desired recording result.

If you ever need more flexibility, or more control over latency, or a
need to adjust individual track offsets ("latency") after the fact,
post-recording mix down sessions, many types of automation whilst
recording, and many other high end audio tasks - jackd/Ardour may be
just the solution you will then be looking for :)

jackd may be built Ardour these days - if so, that would likely make
config even easier.

One little nugget in the back of my mind from a few years ago when I
was last multi-tracking, is a jackd plugin with high quality "audio
anti aliasing" (not sure the proper term sorry) in real time, to mix
input sources which are delivering different sample rates, AND
different skew rates, with respect to each other - basically a full
software "time lock" function WITH high end sample rate anti
aliasing. I didn't need it, but it looked like it would allow
seamless "real time latency/skew correction" of basic mobo line-in
tracks, with tracks coming from hardware with proper time sync
codes... please excuse my amateur wording here. Summary: the best of
the best is available with jackd and Ardour, for absolutely any
tricky situation.

Have fun :)

Re: Unusual LUKS setup

On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 09:48:23AM +0200, Bastien Durel wrote:
> Le lundi 14 août 2017 à 17:35 +0200, Nicolas George a écrit :
> > Le septidi 27 thermidor, an CCXXV, Bastien Durel a écrit :
> > > You don't. pam_mount will ask you for your password (after ssh
> > > authentication) if you didn't provided one
> > 
> > Thanks for the clarification. If you are right, then you probably
> > should
> > file a bug report for outdated documentation.
> > 
> > But still, "UsePrivilegeSeparation no" is a deal breaker on its own.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> In my setup (openssh 7.5), there is no UsePrivilegeSeparation setting,
> it's on by default. And pam_mount is able to mount my encrypted
> partitions when I log via SSH.

If you need Goliath-OS compatible volumes, a year or so ago I managed
to script Veracrypt for a friend's "home" folder (forgotten what
that's even called on Windows sorry), and so they feel safe to be
able to 'upgrade' to any real operating system in the future.

Re: Debian 7.8.0.

El 16 de agosto de 2017, 01:58, diego leon giraldo garcia
 escribió:
> pregunto porque descargue 8 CD de debian 7.8.0. y al
>>terminar con el primer cd no me deja seguir. dice que si deseo analizar
>>otro cd pero no me abre la bandeja de la unidad de cd

¿Qué estás haciendo?
No se entiende tu consulta.



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Re: Unusual LUKS setup

On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 09:33:40AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 12:48:58PM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 09:00:05PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > > On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 01:28:13AM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 12:13:21PM +, Curt wrote:
> > > 
> > > [...]
> > > 
> > > > > Christ! What happened to Little Goody Two-Shoes?
> > > > 
> > > > This is a family friendly list,
> > > 
> > > You sure?
> > 
> > Of that I am absolutely certain :)
> > 
> > You see, a year or three back a certain Code of Conduct or "CoC" was
> > instituted with "the Debian community".
> > 
> > And further, a certain self foresaw certain [...]
> 
> Oh, goody. Now I'm all dizzy %-)
> 
> But that seems to be the all too old tale of Scylla and Charybdis,
> did I get that right?

Oh absolutely :)

(Although I am gifted with the jaw-dropping humility of Odysseus,
I only wish I also had the muscles and golden locks of Ulysses ;D
)

Re: Nommage partitions + grub

2017-08-16 Thread Frédéric MASSOT

Le 16/08/2017 à 12:13, andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit :
> Hello,
> 
> Sun mon serveur chez Online, au début,
> mon unique disque dur était nommé bizarrement "sdc",
> donc toutes les partitions créées étaient de sdc1 à sdc8.
> 
> J'ai modifié sdc => sda, corrigé le fichier /etc/fstab,
> le répertoire /media/sda2 à sda8,
> rebooté sans problème.
> 
> Si je tape :
> # e2fsck /dev/sda2
> e2fsck 1.42.13 (17-May-2015)
> sdc2 : propre, 1600481/19537920 fichiers...
> Pareil pour les autres partitions.
> 
> Il me répond que "sdc2" est propre et non sda2 !
> 
> D'autre part, si je fais un "update-grub",
> le fichier grub.cfg ne comporte qu'une partition bootable = sda1.
> 
> Comment corriger le tir, ou quel fichier indique toujours que mon  
> disque dur = sdc ?

Pour Grub, il y a le fichier "/boot/grub/device.map" créé avec la
commande "/usr/sbin/grub-mkdevicemap".

Tu peux aussi utiliser la commande "tree /dev/disk/" pour voir les
disques et leurs différents nommages.



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Re: obsolete wiki

2017-08-16 Thread rhkramer

On Tuesday, August 15, 2017 01:09:54 PM Brian wrote:
> The wiki page is at https://wiki.debian.org/Init
> 
> On Tue 15 Aug 2017 at 10:07:07 -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:

> > Well, even a vague note on the page something like:
> > 
> > "Some of this seems to be out of date with the advent of systemd and its
> > adoption in Debian starting with version n.n ().  If you
> > can contribute anything more to this story, please do."
> > 
> > 
> > ...would be a start.
> 
> A note is not a bad idea, but is the information on the page really
> outdated, or is it inappropriate because it does not reflect the reality
> in jessie and onwards? As I tried to say in another post in this thread,
> what should the page say and how should it be structured? What should be
> omitted and what be put in. What is the purpose of the page?
> 
> Sorry if I gave the impression that Felix Miata should be personally
> responsible for any changes. The point I was trying to make was that
> someone (or a number of someones) has to do it. Take a look at the
> BootProcess page. The link is on the Init page; looking at that page
> in isolation only scratches the surface of the task.

I was going to go to that page and add something like the note I mentioned, 
and then suggest that you (Brian) and others check out that page and make 
additional modifications as appropriate.

But, on going to that page, I see that Greg Wooledge actually modified that 
page yesterday at 17:32 (don't know if that is UTC or something else).  Thank 
you, Greg.

The entry in the "change log" for his changes says: 

"discuss the alternative init systems a bit, and at least attempt to describe 
the current state of affairs"

It looks good to me (;-) but I really know nothing about what is being 
discussed.

I'd suggest others take a look, and make modifications / additions as 
appropriate.

Thanks again to Greg who took the bull by the horns (and, asfaict, did not get 
gored).

Re: No ifconfig [Was: no /etc/inittab]

2017-08-16 Thread Greg Wooledge

On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 11:58:06AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
>   oldIFS="$IFS"; IFS=': '; ip -o link | while read num interface other;
> do echo "$interface"; done; IFS="$oldIFS" 

ip -o link | while IFS=' :' read -r _ i _; do echo "<$i>"; done

There's no need to set IFS globally and then attempt to restore it,
especially since "restoring" it fails if it was previously unset.
Just set it for the duration of the read command.

The alternative is to make IFS local, within a function:

foo() {
  local IFS=' :'
  ip -o link | while read -r _ i _; do echo "<$i>"; done
}
foo

But once again, this is overkill, when IFS only needs to be modified in
the execution environment of the read command.  (Also less portable,
because POSIX shell functions don't necessarily have "local".)

Re: Nommage partitions (résolu) + grub

2017-08-16 Thread Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희, 黃炳熙)

On Wednesday 16 August 2017 12:57:18 Julien wrote:
> Utilise la commande blkid pour connaitre l'UUID de ta partition 
> et utilise la dans GRUB (préfixe UUID=). 

Le nommage est résolu, label des /dev/sdaX modifié.

Grub : 
Par contre, ou utiliser dans GRUB (préfixe UUID=) ?

# "update-grub" devrait le faire automatiquement,
par création d'un boot de sda1 à sda 7 (linux ext4).
Grub ne créé qu'un seul boot = /dev/sda1

André

Re: Le destin se ramène-t-il par la? Camille STOP

2017-08-16 Thread IN VITRO

STOP les mails. Merci

Bien cordialement.
Atelier In Vitro
Laetitia Moreau
0614795951

> Le 16 août 2017 à 10:36, Camille Cillikova  a 
> écrit :
> 
> 
> J’aimerai bien le rencontrer. http://bit.ly/2wdGt6T

Re: [solved] Re: Live recording

2017-08-16 Thread Rodolfo Medina

Zenaan Harkness  writes:

> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 03:03:46AM +0200, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
>> Rodolfo Medina  writes:
>> 
>> > deloptes  writes:
>> >
>> >>> 
>> >>> For human voice, I bought a USB audio card and plugged a third
>> >>> microphone into it.  So now I have:
>> >>> 
>> >>>  mic1 for piano basses; |__ plugged together into the
>> >>>  mic2 for piano highs;  |   above Y cable
>> >>>  mic3 for voice -> -> -> -> plugged into the USB dongle.
>> >>> 
>> >>> Then I do:
>> >>> 
>> >>>  $ sox -t alsa default piano.wav
>> >>> 
>> >>> and, at the same time, on another xterm session,
>> >>> 
>> >>>  $ sox -t alsa wh:2,0 voice.wav
>> >>> 
>> >>> where wh:2,0 is the USB device (do: `arecord -l' first).  This way I get
>> >>> two audio files: piano.wav and voice.wav.  The first one is stereo and
>> >>> the second is mono.  In the end I merge the two together with Audacity.
>> >>> By default, Audacity puts the mono file just in the middle between left
>> >>> and right channel; but, if you like, you can have it weight more left or
>> >>> more right, in the percentage you want.  I must say that the result is
>> >>> acceptable, and more...
>> >>> 
>> >> Why not do all that directly in Audacity? I am sure it works and it will
>> >> take care of the timing automatically
>> >
>> >
>> > Thanks, I'll have a try.
>> 
>> 
>> Apparently, Audacity doesn't let you record simultaneously from two or more
>> sources...  you have to choose one source.
>
> Ardour should only take half a day to start using - it absolutely
> rocks - high end DAW FTW :D


Thanks...  As far as I see, Ardour and Jack are powerful tools...  On the other
hand, with the above recording procedure, i.e. several simultaneous sessions of
sox, no drifting or latency effects did I appreciate at all...  So it is maybe
worth for me to continue that way till the moment such problems will arise...

Rodolfo

Re: ¿Problemas con GVFS y NFS?

2017-08-16 Thread JAP


El 16/08/17 a las 06:15, Diego M. Beltrán escribió:

Buenos días,

Estoy usando /buster/, y los últimos días he notado que los volúmenes 
NFS configurados en //etc/fstab/ no son visibles en el navegador de 
archivos /Nautilus/. Tampoco en /Pcmanfm/ ni en /Double Commander/, lo 
que me sugiere que pueda haber problemas con el /nfs-backend/. La 
versión de GVFS es la 1.30.4-1


Las unidades se montan bien manualmente mediante /mount. /Me sucede en 
tres máquinas con Debian Testing.


//¿Alguien sabe algo del tema?

Un cordial saludo

*_Diego M. Beltrán_*
/y...@diegomunozbeltran.com/

Sent with ProtonMail  Secure Email.



Yo no tengo problemas al respecto.

Preguntonta...¿cómo conectas a la red?
Pues si la red se levanta después que fstab, no se va a conectar ni a 
palos...


Lo de "se montan bien manualmente mediante /mount", significa:

A) # mount -t nfs servidor:/carpeta /local
B) # mount -a

Si B no funciona, y usas A, tienes un problema en la línea de /etc/fstab.
Si B funciona, es que tu red no está lista antes de ejecutarse 
/etc/fstab durante el arranque.


JAP

Re: The End(Was: Re: IPv6 for Ubuntu on Chromebook)

2017-08-16 Thread Eike Lantzsch

On Wednesday, 16 August 2017 20:03:31 -04 Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희, 黃 炳熙) wrote:
> >> B. You have a tunnel account for IPv6 service.
> 
> Just i did try, but the tunnel broker said:
> 
> "IP is not ICMP pingable. Please make sure ICMP is not blocked."
> 
> Well i have no lucky for IPv6, thanks!!!
> 
> Sincerely, Byung-Hee.

Don't know if this is relevant:
I had the problem of not pingable IP with my cable-ISP. ISP told me that they 
are not blocking anything. Turned out that the Motorola cable modem blocked 
the ICMP packages and it could not be convinced to let them through. Lightning 
"solved" this problem - ISP installed another modem (another brand) which I 
can now happily configure myself and voila: IP is pingable.

So maybe that it's not your ISP but the d... modem?

Sincerely
Eike

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Re: Debian 7.8.0.

2017-08-16 Thread JAP


El 16/08/17 a las 01:58, diego leon giraldo garcia escribió:

pregunto porque descargue 8 CD de debian 7.8.0. y al
 >terminar con el primer cd no me deja seguir. dice que si deseo analizar
 >otro cd pero no me abre la bandeja de la unidad de cd



Wheezy...
¿7.8.0?
¿Por qué 7.8 y no 7.11?
¿Qué es lo que estas haciendo?

Aclaranos un poco y vemos cómo ayudar.
Por mi parte, hace cosa de un par de meses terminé una instalación de un 
wheezy en una notebook HP-Mini 110 de hace como 8 años; es lo más 
"moderno" que le funciona sin trabarse.


JAP

Re: Nommage partitions + grub

2017-08-16 Thread Julien

Bonjour,

Utilise la commande blkid pour connaitre l'UUID de ta partition et utilise la 
dans GRUB (préfixe UUID=).

Julien

Re: Crashes with noveau driver and non-Debian software: How can I report the problems?

2017-08-16 Thread Sven Joachim

On 2017-08-16 05:14 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:

> Erik Brangs composed on 2017-08-16 10:31 (UTC+0200):
>
>> ...The binaries sometimes crash on my machine and the console shows error
>> messages from the nouveau driver. I asked upstream about this and they said
>> it was "likely a buggy GL implementation" in the graphics driver. The
>> binaries work fine if I disable hardware acceleration using
>> LIBGL_ALWAYS_SOFTWARE=1 ...
> If you'd like to avoid the crash without using LIBGL_ALWAYS_SOFTWARE=1, give
> the default integrated (modesetting) graphics driver a try. By purging
> xserver-xorg-video-nouveau it should be used automatically if your gfxchip is
> not too new or too old.

No, purging xserver-xorg-video-nouveau won't have the desired effect,
because the modesetting driver will also load nouveau_dri.so.

Cheers,
   Sven

XI2 hotplug tool

2017-08-16 Thread Nicolas George

Hi.

Is there a standard tool (not specific to any desktop environment) to
handle hot-plugged input devices in X11? For example to set different
layouts on different keyboards or different acceleration on different
mice.

udev is not the answer because udev does not have standard access to the
X11 server.

"xinput --test-xi2 --root" has the basis for that: subscribe to the
XInput2 events and display them, but it records all events, not just
hot-plug and hot-unplug, and the output is unsuitable for automation.

I have written a small utility that runs an arbitrary command every time
an input device is plugged or unplugged with environment variables
giving the properties. If nothing standard exists, I can publish it.

Regards,

-- 
  Nicolas George

The End (Was: Re: IPv6 for Ubuntu on Chromebook)

>> B. You have a tunnel account for IPv6 service.

Just i did try, but the tunnel broker said:

"IP is not ICMP pingable. Please make sure ICMP is not blocked."

Well i have no lucky for IPv6, thanks!!!

Sincerely, Byung-Hee.

-- 
^고맙습니다 _布德天下_ 감사합니다_^))//

restarting services after library upgrades

2017-08-16 Thread Richard Hector

Hi all,

After I do an upgrade, I use needrestart to see what processes need
restarting, and restart them. I notice though that some are never marked
for restart - the main ones are dbus.service and
systemd-journald.service (this is on jessie btw, but I assume similar
issues exist in stretch).

I assume this is because it's not safe to restart them? What would
happen if I did?

Is there a way to perhaps re-exec them (the way it was possible with
sysvinit, IIRC) so that they reopen their libraries, and possibly their
own binaries? It would be very helpful to not have to reboot.

Cheers,
Richard



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Nommage partitions + grub

Hello,

Sun mon serveur chez Online, au début,
mon unique disque dur était nommé bizarrement "sdc",
donc toutes les partitions créées étaient de sdc1 à sdc8.

J'ai modifié sdc => sda, corrigé le fichier /etc/fstab,
le répertoire /media/sda2 à sda8,
rebooté sans problème.

Si je tape :
# e2fsck /dev/sda2
e2fsck 1.42.13 (17-May-2015)
sdc2 : propre, 1600481/19537920 fichiers...
Pareil pour les autres partitions.

Il me répond que "sdc2" est propre et non sda2 !

D'autre part, si je fais un "update-grub",
le fichier grub.cfg ne comporte qu'une partition bootable = sda1.

Comment corriger le tir, ou quel fichier indique toujours que mon  
disque dur = sdc ?

Merci et bonne journée,

André

Re: No ifconfig [Was: no /etc/inittab]

2017-08-16 Thread tomas

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On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 04:58:24AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Wednesday 16 August 2017 03:28:43 Clive Standbridge wrote:
> 
> > oldIFS="$IFS"; IFS=': '; ip -o link | while read num interface other;
> > do declare -p interface; done; IFS="$oldIFS"
> 
> Now thats an interesting bit of bashism, and deeper into it than I have 
> waded. But for this local network, I know what they are so I can't think 
> of a situation that would make me use it.  But it may well be useful in 
> the future, so the message is marked to protect it from the expiry 
> rules.

Nice idiomatic little script.

Changing the input field separator (IFS) to parse lines is actually a
shell classic and should work on most shells (I just tested with dash),

The "declare", OTOH, is pretty Bashist. But it can be replaced by
a simple "echo":

This should be more portable (at least across the Bourne family):

  oldIFS="$IFS"; IFS=': '; ip -o link | while read num interface other;
do echo "$interface"; done; IFS="$oldIFS" 

Cheers
- -- tomás
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¿Problemas con GVFS y NFS?

2017-08-16 Thread Diego M . Beltrán

Buenos días,

Estoy usando buster, y los últimos días he notado que los volúmenes NFS 
configurados en /etc/fstab no son visibles en el navegador de archivos 
Nautilus. Tampoco en Pcmanfm ni en Double Commander, lo que me sugiere que 
pueda haber problemas con el nfs-backend. La versión de GVFS es la 1.30.4-1

Las unidades se montan bien manualmente mediante mount. Me sucede en tres 
máquinas con Debian Testing.

¿Alguien sabe algo del tema?

Un cordial saludo

Diego M. Beltrán
y...@diegomunozbeltran.com

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Re: Crashes with noveau driver and non-Debian software: How can I report the problems?

2017-08-16 Thread Felix Miata

Erik Brangs composed on 2017-08-16 10:31 (UTC+0200):

> ...The binaries sometimes crash on my machine and the console shows error
> messages from the nouveau driver. I asked upstream about this and they said
> it was "likely a buggy GL implementation" in the graphics driver. The
> binaries work fine if I disable hardware acceleration using
> LIBGL_ALWAYS_SOFTWARE=1 ...
If you'd like to avoid the crash without using LIBGL_ALWAYS_SOFTWARE=1, give
the default integrated (modesetting) graphics driver a try. By purging
xserver-xorg-video-nouveau it should be used automatically if your gfxchip is
not too new or too old.
-- 
"The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant
words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)

 Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!

Felix Miata  ***  http://fm.no-ip.com/

Re: No ifconfig [Was: no /etc/inittab]

2017-08-16 Thread Gene Heskett

On Wednesday 16 August 2017 03:28:43 Clive Standbridge wrote:

> oldIFS="$IFS"; IFS=': '; ip -o link | while read num interface other;
> do declare -p interface; done; IFS="$oldIFS"

Now thats an interesting bit of bashism, and deeper into it than I have 
waded. But for this local network, I know what they are so I can't think 
of a situation that would make me use it.  But it may well be useful in 
the future, so the message is marked to protect it from the expiry 
rules.

Thank you Clive.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
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