Re: What tool can I use to make efficient incremental backups?

[Celejar]

On Sun, 20 Aug 2017 20:04:57 -0500
Mario Castelán Castro  wrote:

> On 2017-08-19 23:07 -0400 Celejar  wrote:
> >There's Borg, which apparently has good deduplication. I've just
> >started using it, but it's a very sophisticated and quite popular piece
> >of software, judging by chatter in various internet threads.

...

> Using a Git checkout of the latest release I get this warning: “Using a
> pure-python msgpack! This will result in lower performance.”. Yet I have
> the Debian package “python3-msgpack“. Do you know what the problem is?

No, sorry.

Celejar

Re: Editing /etc/apt/sources.list breaks update

[Juha Manninen]

On Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 4:25 PM, Erik Christiansen
 wrote:
> The deficiency lies in your MUA settings. Take a look at the headers on
> the list traffic you receive:
>
> List-Id: 
> List-Post: 
>
> Without knowing which MUA you use, it's difficult to do the work for
> you, but if it's mutt, then adding a "subscribe debian-user.lists.debian.org"
> line to .muttrc may do the trick. (Depending on what else is or isn't
> set.) There, though, it is better to initiate a "List Reply" rather than
> a "Reply" (to author), in this use case. That works for me without the
> need for a subscribe line. (So no problem here. ;-)

I use the browser interface for GMail. Ok, it is not very geeky but it
works for me.
I cannot see any GMail setting that would affect this issue.
If somebody has ideas, please tell me.
I post to other mailing lists, too, mainly related to FPC and Lazarus
Pascal stuff.
I don't remember setting anything for e-mail reply addresses.

Juha Manninen

Re: leaving the hibernate state

[Pierre Frenkiel]

On Sat, 16 Sep 2017, Andr? N B wrote:


. . .
So you've ruled out swap size, UUID mismatch and have actualy been able to
hibernate, though you're still unable to resume, is that correct?


   Not really, as the image is not written after hibernate. As I already said, 
I abandonned the idea of doing hibernate,
   and use resume at lid close. The battery then lasts more than 24 hours,  
which is largely sufficient.

best regards,
--
Pierre Frenkiel

Re: leaving the hibernate state

[André N B]

Sat 09 Sep 2017 às 18:35:42 (1504992942), pierre.frenk...@gmail.com enviou:
> On Tue, 5 Sep 2017, Pierre Frenkiel wrote:
> 
> > On Sat, 2 Sep 2017, Andr? N B wrote:
> > 
> > > Have you tried any of these tests?
> > > 
> > > https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/stable/linux-stable.git/plain/Documentation/power/basic-pm-debugging.txt?h=v4.12.10
> > > 
> > 
> >   I tried the first one: it crashed my laptop, and after reboot, I got
> > "recovering journal"
> >   I thing that the problem acrually comes from a too small swap
> > partition. I'll increase it, and post the result.
> 
>I increased the swap partition to twice the ram size, but hibernate still 
> doesn't work
>(cf my next post: "hibernate uses a wrong UUID"

https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/09/msg00377.html

So you've ruled out swap size, UUID mismatch and have actualy been able to
hibernate, though you're still unable to resume, is that correct?

The doc above has hints on test_resume, you may try it.

Re: getting mail from Exchange/Outlook

[Brad Rogers]

On Sat, 16 Sep 2017 15:22:08 + (UTC)
Curt  wrote:

Hello Curt,

>The recourse to encryption is tempting to the serious-minded; however, I
>fear it just red-flags you for further and more exhaustive study.

If you routinely encrypt everything, there's nothing to red-flag any
particular email.

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Re: getting mail from Exchange/Outlook

[Curt]

On 2017-09-16, Dan Purgert  wrote:
> Greg Wooledge wrote:
>> On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 11:00:19PM -0400, The Wanderer wrote:
>>> I read the "for backup purposes" as being a euphemism, implying that the
>>> second copy was being kept for nefarious purposes, including so that it
>>> could be reviewed (including by third parties) even if the user had
>>> deleted the "visible" copy.
>>
>> Yes, precisely this.  I thought it was blatantly obvious, but as
>> usual the Internet has corrected my assumptions.
>
> Hm, I must've missed that message ...
>
> "Nefarious" or not, anyone worth their salt has backups of their mail
> (be it corporate IT / an ISP / google / whoever), since things fail at
> times.  Hell, I have "dead-tree-backups(tm)" of emails from previous
> employers asking for stupid things that'd break best practices / etc.
>

I would not wish my ISP to retain a backup for some ulterior purpose of
the private emails that I have expressly deleted.

YMMV.

The recourse to encryption is tempting to the serious-minded; however, I
fear it just red-flags you for further and more exhaustive study.


-- 
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Re: getting mail from Exchange/Outlook

[Dan Purgert]

Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 11:00:19PM -0400, The Wanderer wrote:
>> I read the "for backup purposes" as being a euphemism, implying that the
>> second copy was being kept for nefarious purposes, including so that it
>> could be reviewed (including by third parties) even if the user had
>> deleted the "visible" copy.
>
> Yes, precisely this.  I thought it was blatantly obvious, but as
> usual the Internet has corrected my assumptions.

Hm, I must've missed that message ...

"Nefarious" or not, anyone worth their salt has backups of their mail
(be it corporate IT / an ISP / google / whoever), since things fail at
times.  Hell, I have "dead-tree-backups(tm)" of emails from previous
employers asking for stupid things that'd break best practices / etc.

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Re: Editing /etc/apt/sources.list breaks update

[Sven Hartge]

Eero Volotinen  wrote:

> You need to import needed gpg key.

> Try something like this

> gpg --keyserver pgpkeys.mit.edu --recv-key  7638D0442B90D010

> gpg -a --export 7638D0442B90D010 | sudo apt-key add -

No!

You should *never* manually import any ReleaseKey. Those should always
only come from the keyring packages in Debian itself or your system may
end up trusting a key which has been removed from the official keyeing.

S°

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Re: Editing /etc/apt/sources.list breaks update

[Erik Christiansen]

On 16.09.17 15:44, Juha Manninen wrote:
> BTW, the reply address of this mailing list is set wrong. In some
> other lists I can click Reply and it goes to the list. Here it would
> go to the person who sent the last message. I have to edit the
> recipient field.

The deficiency lies in your MUA settings. Take a look at the headers on
the list traffic you receive:

List-Id: 
List-Post: 

Without knowing which MUA you use, it's difficult to do the work for
you, but if it's mutt, then adding a "subscribe debian-user.lists.debian.org"
line to .muttrc may do the trick. (Depending on what else is or isn't
set.) There, though, it is better to initiate a "List Reply" rather than
a "Reply" (to author), in this use case. That works for me without the
need for a subscribe line. (So no problem here. ;-)

Erik

Re: Editing /etc/apt/sources.list breaks update

[Juha Manninen]

# export LC_MESSAGES=C
root@debian:/home/juha# gpg --keyserver pgpkeys.mit.edu --recv-key
7638D0442B90D010
key 7638D0442B90D010:
10 signatures not checked due to missing keys
gpg: key 7638D0442B90D010: "Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key
(8/jessie) " not changed
gpg: Total number processed: 1
gpg:  unchanged: 1
root@debian:/home/juha# gpg -a --export 7638D0442B90D010 | apt-key add -
gpg: keydb_search failed: Invalid argument
gpg: keydb_search failed: Invalid argument
gpg: keydb_search failed: Invalid argument
gpg: keydb_search failed: Invalid argument
gpg: keydb_search failed: Invalid argument
gpg: keydb_search failed: Invalid argument
gpg: keydb_search failed: Invalid argument
gpg: keydb_search failed: Invalid argument
gpg: keydb_search failed: Invalid argument
gpg: keydb_search failed: Invalid argument
key 7638D0442B90D010:
10 signatures not checked due to missing keys
gpg: keydb_get_keyblock failed: Value not found

---

Anyway running such commands felt strange because it is not mentioned
in documentation and quite impossible to guess.
This all means the "DebianTesting" web page is wrong. The task is not
as easy as it claims. It should be fixed.

Anyway it is not a big problem for me. I can continue with the default
sources.list.
Debian still looks like the best choice for old computer + CD install.
I tried SparkyLinux which is advertised for old computers. They have a
minimalGUI image but its GUI installer requires 1GB memory! The CLI
"advanced installer" is not advanced at all and left me with a partly
broken system.
I just tried Fedora. Even their "light" LXQT spin hogs memory and
feels sticky.  :(
Arch, Manjaro and many others have dropped support for 32-bit. Ubuntu
is planning to do so ...

Puppy Linux and such are too minimal, designed for truly limited resources.
The computer I will update has plenty of resources: An AMD CPU of
almost 2 GHz and half a gigabyte of memory. That is 536870912 bytes,
for God's sake! It is not an obsolete machine.

BTW, the reply address of this mailing list is set wrong. In some
other lists I can click Reply and it goes to the list. Here it would
go to the person who sent the last message. I have to edit the
recipient field.

Regards,
Juha Manninen

Re: letsencrypt wilnie, zit (oude) cert soms in de weg

[Paul van der Vlis]

Op 15-09-17 om 18:29 schreef Gijs Hillenius:

> Die moet ik nu nog goed in de diverse apache configuraties zien te
> duwen. Dat is iets voor later..

Wat het certbot script doet is de inhoud van de HTTP vhost kopieren, en
dan dit eromheen zetten:






SSLCertificateFile /etc/letsencrypt/live/freecafe.nl/fullchain.pem
SSLCertificateKeyFile /etc/letsencrypt/live/freecafe.nl/privkey.pem
Include /etc/letsencrypt/options-ssl-apache.conf




Groeten,
Paul



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https://www.vandervlis.nl/

Re: Editing /etc/apt/sources.list breaks update

[Teemu Likonen]

Juha Manninen [2017-09-16 11:57:32+03] wrote:

> # apt-get update
> Nouda:1 http://deb.debian.org/debian testing InRelease [135 kB]
> Vrhe:1 http://deb.debian.org/debian testing InRelease
>   Seuraavia allekirjoituksia ei voinut varmentaa koska julkista
> avainta ei ole saatavilla: NO_PUBKEY 7638D0442B90D010

> Sorry, some errors are in Finnish due to my locale. I can try to
> change that if required.

Hint for the locale in an international mailing list:

# export LC_MESSAGES=C
# apt-get update

or for one command only

# LC_MESSAGES=C apt-get update

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Re: Make CapsLock an additional Escape key - Problem: https://wiki.debian.org/Keyboard advice does not work

[Erik Christiansen]

On 15.09.17 08:48, Peter Smith wrote:
> P.S.: I actually was able to change the keyboard layout later on by
> the Gnome Tweak tool, but nevertheless I do not unterstand why the
> official information does not work and it should be rectified.

It is depressing to see the linux community succumb to unwarranted
creeping complexity. For nearly two decades, this has done it for me:

$ more ~/.Xmodmap 
keycode 0x42 =  Escape
clear Lock

That's consulted as X fires up, so if you copy your useful dot-files
across upgrades and reinstalls, it's done from here on out.

Erik

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rituals (GUI with standardized clicky buttons, help popping up in a browser,
etc. etc.) but doesn't have the central attribute these are supposed to achieve:
discoverability. That is, the quality that every point in the interface has
prompts and actions attached to it from which you can learn what to do next.
   - Eric Raymond, in "The Luxury of Ignorance."

Re: Editing /etc/apt/sources.list breaks update

[Eero Volotinen]

Hi,

You need to import needed gpg key.

Try something like this

gpg --keyserver pgpkeys.mit.edu --recv-key  7638D0442B90D010

gpg -a --export 7638D0442B90D010 | sudo apt-key add -


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2017-09-16 11:57 GMT+03:00 Juha Manninen :

> Hello Debian people! My first post here.
>
> I have installed Debian 9.1.0 buster for i386 using the small netinst
> image. Works well. I tested different desktops, too.
>
> I wanted to use the testing branch also after buster goes stable.
> According to this page:
>   https://wiki.debian.org/DebianTesting
> it is possible by editing /etc/apt/sources.list.
> I followed the instructions and changed "buster" to "testing" and
> commented out security update lines.
> It now looks like this :
>  deb http://ftp.fi.debian.org/debian/ testing main
>  deb-src http://ftp.fi.debian.org/debian/ testing main
>  # deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security testing/updates main
>  deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ testing contrib main
>  # deb-src http://security.debian.org/debian-security testing/updates main
>
> However running:
> ---
> # apt-get update
> Nouda:1 http://deb.debian.org/debian testing InRelease [135 kB]
> Vrhe:1 http://deb.debian.org/debian testing InRelease
>   Seuraavia allekirjoituksia ei voinut varmentaa koska julkista
> avainta ei ole saatavilla: NO_PUBKEY 7638D0442B90D010
> Nouda:2 http://ftp.fi.debian.org/debian testing InRelease [135 kB]
> Vrhe:2 http://ftp.fi.debian.org/debian testing InRelease
>   Seuraavia allekirjoituksia ei voinut varmentaa koska julkista
> avainta ei ole saatavilla: NO_PUBKEY 7638D0442B90D010
> Noudettiin 270 kt ajassa 10s (26,7 kt/s)
> Luetaan pakettiluetteloita... Valmis
> W: An error occurred during the signature verification. The repository
> is not updated and the previous index files will be used. GPG error:
> http://deb.debian.org/debian testing InRelease: Seuraavia
> allekirjoituksia ei voinut varmentaa koska julkista avainta ei ole
> saatavilla: NO_PUBKEY 7638D0442B90D010
> W: An error occurred during the signature verification. The repository
> is not updated and the previous index files will be used. GPG error:
> http://ftp.fi.debian.org/debian testing InRelease: Seuraavia
> allekirjoituksia ei voinut varmentaa koska julkista avainta ei ole
> saatavilla: NO_PUBKEY 7638D0442B90D010
> W: Tiedoston http://ftp.fi.debian.org/debian/dists/testing/InRelease
> nouto ei onnistunut  Seuraavia allekirjoituksia ei voinut varmentaa
> koska julkista avainta ei ole saatavilla: NO_PUBKEY 7638D0442B90D010
> W: Tiedoston http://deb.debian.org/debian/dists/testing/InRelease
> nouto ei onnistunut  Seuraavia allekirjoituksia ei voinut varmentaa
> koska julkista avainta ei ole saatavilla: NO_PUBKEY 7638D0442B90D010
> W: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old
> ones used instead.
> ---
>
> Sorry, some errors are in Finnish due to my locale. I can try to
> change that if required.
> I found some post about GPG errors but no solutions really.
> I have read some people successfully run Debian testing as a rolling
> distro and the "DebianTesting" web page also says it is possible.
> I am curious what is happening.
>
> BTW, the web page has conflicting info. After an orange exclamation
> mark it says:
>  "If you are tracking testing or the next-stable code name, you should
> always have a corresponding deb http://security.debian.org <"testing"
> or codename>/updates main line in your /etc/apt/sources.list ."
> ... although just earlier it told to remove any security lines.
> This has no effect on the errors though.
>
> Now I am testing with VirtualBox. Later my goal is to keep some old
> machines alive. They only can boot from a CD, no DVD nor USB.
> Distros that support installation for such machines are getting
> sparse. Most distros have dropped CD size images and also 32-bit CPUs.
>
>
> Regards,
> Juha Manninen
>
>

Editing /etc/apt/sources.list breaks update

[Juha Manninen]

Hello Debian people! My first post here.

I have installed Debian 9.1.0 buster for i386 using the small netinst
image. Works well. I tested different desktops, too.

I wanted to use the testing branch also after buster goes stable.
According to this page:
  https://wiki.debian.org/DebianTesting
it is possible by editing /etc/apt/sources.list.
I followed the instructions and changed "buster" to "testing" and
commented out security update lines.
It now looks like this :
 deb http://ftp.fi.debian.org/debian/ testing main
 deb-src http://ftp.fi.debian.org/debian/ testing main
 # deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security testing/updates main
 deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ testing contrib main
 # deb-src http://security.debian.org/debian-security testing/updates main

However running:
---
# apt-get update
Nouda:1 http://deb.debian.org/debian testing InRelease [135 kB]
Vrhe:1 http://deb.debian.org/debian testing InRelease
  Seuraavia allekirjoituksia ei voinut varmentaa koska julkista
avainta ei ole saatavilla: NO_PUBKEY 7638D0442B90D010
Nouda:2 http://ftp.fi.debian.org/debian testing InRelease [135 kB]
Vrhe:2 http://ftp.fi.debian.org/debian testing InRelease
  Seuraavia allekirjoituksia ei voinut varmentaa koska julkista
avainta ei ole saatavilla: NO_PUBKEY 7638D0442B90D010
Noudettiin 270 kt ajassa 10s (26,7 kt/s)
Luetaan pakettiluetteloita... Valmis
W: An error occurred during the signature verification. The repository
is not updated and the previous index files will be used. GPG error:
http://deb.debian.org/debian testing InRelease: Seuraavia
allekirjoituksia ei voinut varmentaa koska julkista avainta ei ole
saatavilla: NO_PUBKEY 7638D0442B90D010
W: An error occurred during the signature verification. The repository
is not updated and the previous index files will be used. GPG error:
http://ftp.fi.debian.org/debian testing InRelease: Seuraavia
allekirjoituksia ei voinut varmentaa koska julkista avainta ei ole
saatavilla: NO_PUBKEY 7638D0442B90D010
W: Tiedoston http://ftp.fi.debian.org/debian/dists/testing/InRelease
nouto ei onnistunut  Seuraavia allekirjoituksia ei voinut varmentaa
koska julkista avainta ei ole saatavilla: NO_PUBKEY 7638D0442B90D010
W: Tiedoston http://deb.debian.org/debian/dists/testing/InRelease
nouto ei onnistunut  Seuraavia allekirjoituksia ei voinut varmentaa
koska julkista avainta ei ole saatavilla: NO_PUBKEY 7638D0442B90D010
W: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old
ones used instead.
---

Sorry, some errors are in Finnish due to my locale. I can try to
change that if required.
I found some post about GPG errors but no solutions really.
I have read some people successfully run Debian testing as a rolling
distro and the "DebianTesting" web page also says it is possible.
I am curious what is happening.

BTW, the web page has conflicting info. After an orange exclamation
mark it says:
 "If you are tracking testing or the next-stable code name, you should
always have a corresponding deb http://security.debian.org <"testing"
or codename>/updates main line in your /etc/apt/sources.list ."
... although just earlier it told to remove any security lines.
This has no effect on the errors though.

Now I am testing with VirtualBox. Later my goal is to keep some old
machines alive. They only can boot from a CD, no DVD nor USB.
Distros that support installation for such machines are getting
sparse. Most distros have dropped CD size images and also 32-bit CPUs.


Regards,
Juha Manninen