XFCE and network manager
Just installed scratch with xfce4 on an oldish machine, downloading all the needed packages through my wifi adapter. On first boot wifi is down, and there is no application I can use to choose and connect to my wifi access point. I realize that xfce's own Airconfig has never lifted off and is currently unreleased, abandoned and unmaintained, so xfce users usually use NetworkManager or Wicd. I would suggest that any of these is installed by default when xfce is chosen during installation.
Re: OT: dovecot with letsencrypt, K9 mail fails?
On 16/03/18 16:15, Anthony DeRobertis wrote: > Dovecot (IMAP) is working fine here with K-9. > > Since you're seeing different results in different clients, the most > obvious reason would be a different behavior from the two different ways > to connect to IMAP (or POP3) with TLS: > > * connect to port 993, start TLS negotiation > * connect to port 143, run STARTTLS command, start TLS negotiation Both are 143/STARTTLS. > You can debug both with OpenSSL's s_client: > > openssl s_client -starttls imap -connect MAIL.YOURDOMAIN.COM:imap > openssl s_client -connect MAIL.YOURDOMAIN.COM:imaps Thanks, will have a play with that. Unfortunately, it seems to be intermittent (and relatively rare). Maybe it's just coincidence that Thunderbird never sees it ... > If you're seeing this on sending mail, that's SMTP — and there are > /three/ SMTP ports you might be using: 25, 465, and 587. 25 and 587 need > STARTTLS. s_client can deal with those, too. Haven't seen it with SMTP, but then I don't often send from K9. Typing is so much easier on a proper computer :-) > Once you've figured out what's happening, then you can determine if it's > something weird on your server or your VPS providers' network. Thanks :-) Richard signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Help needed with home network configuration
On Thursday, March 15, 2018 09:42:25 PM David Wright wrote: > On Thu 15 Mar 2018 at 10:18:20 (-0700), Don Armstrong wrote: > > On Wed, 14 Mar 2018, David Wright wrote: > > > When you reprogram routers with dd-wrt, does that allow it to do, say, > > > wired bridging even though the manufacturer's formware doesn't allow > > > for that? > > > > openwrt and dd-wrt both allow wired bridging[1] (or pseudo-bridging by > > routing if your wireless hardware doesn't support that). > > > > > > 1: I suppose there might be some network hardware which doesn't support > > actual bridging of wired interfaces, but I've yet to see such an > > example. > > I think the router I've been using for the last few years is one. > Although the User Manual from May 2013¹ has a brief section on > bridging, the June 2014² revision is missing that part. Both have > a "Wireless Repeating" link on the figure for Advanced Wireless > Settings, but the link is not present in the actual configuration > screen on the device. > > In any case, the May 2013 manual says that to use it as a repeater, > even wired, you have to set security to WEP or None. That's no use. > > I wandered into BestBuy and couldn't find much about bridging on > any of their router boxes. (Obviously I'm eschewing so-called > WiFi Wireless Repeaters.) What I'm trying to ascertain is that > all the wired bridging functionality is performed by the software > and not any special hardware in the device. > > Required topology: > > > ╲│╱ ╲│╱ ╲│╱ > ┌───┐ ┌───┐ ┌───┐ > │W L╞CAT5 │W L╞═PC│ ROKUs │ > [Modem]══╡A A╞═╡A A╞ │ etc │ > │N N╞ │N N╞ └───┘ > │ ╞═PC │ ╞═PC > └───┘ └───┘ > > > ¹ WNDR3400v3_UM_10May2013.pdf > ² WNDR3400v3_UM_19June2014.pdf I haven't paid attention to this thread from the beginning, but looking at the sketch, I'm wondering what the purpose of the 2nd router is? Why not instead of a router put a switch there, and then (assuming you need another WiFi access point at that position), plug the 2 PCs and a wireless access point (not sure of the right name) into the switch. (That, in essence. is how my local LAN is setup except I have a router with two switches and two wireless access points, each plugged into one of the switches (different parts of the house).
Re: OT: dovecot with letsencrypt, K9 mail fails?
Dovecot (IMAP) is working fine here with K-9. Since you're seeing different results in different clients, the most obvious reason would be a different behavior from the two different ways to connect to IMAP (or POP3) with TLS: * connect to port 993, start TLS negotiation * connect to port 143, run STARTTLS command, start TLS negotiation (with POP3 it'd be 995 and 110). You can debug both with OpenSSL's s_client: openssl s_client -starttls imap -connect MAIL.YOURDOMAIN.COM:imap openssl s_client-connect MAIL.YOURDOMAIN.COM:imaps (or of course change all the imap to pop3 to do POP3). If you're seeing this on sending mail, that's SMTP — and there are /three/ SMTP ports you might be using: 25, 465, and 587. 25 and 587 need STARTTLS. s_client can deal with those, too. Once you've figured out what's happening, then you can determine if it's something weird on your server or your VPS providers' network.
Re: dd_help missing from stretch repos
On 3/15/18, Felix Miata wrote: > My new 2TB HD just arrived. Old 1.5TB to be rescued, made in 2010, has 8 > pending > sectors reported by smartctl. e2fsck locks up the PC trying to fix its EXT2 > filesystem. I know if anything could bail me out, dd_rhelp could. > > Debian bugs Google found about dd_rhelp: > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=252198 > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=254759 > > I see gddrescue in the repos, but my experience with dd_rehelp is only > favorable. Can someone tell me how they compare, or even if they are > comparable? > Do Debian users simply extract the script from the lastest archive version > on > www.kalysto.org and run it? Hi, Felix.. I don't have that answer you need, but I tried doing some "apt-cache search" on your various forms of "dd_help". "safecopy" came up for "dd help rescue" so I'm throwing it out there in case it offers features of interest. This part of safecopy's description stood out for me: "This media can be floppy disks, harddisk partitions, CDs, DVDs, tape devices, where other tools like dd would fail due to I/O errors." I'm familiar with seeing those I/O errors. How safecopy actually works in reality, I don't know, but I do have an old, damaged hard drive with really important files trapped on it. I might try to find that old hard drive and give safecopy a shot myself, actually.. :) +++ SAFECOPY DESCRIPTION +++ Description-en: data recovery tool for problematic or damaged media Safecopy tries to get as much data from SOURCE as possible, even resorting to device specific low level operations if applicable. This is achieved by identifying problematic or damaged areas, skipping over them and continuing reading afterwards. The corresponding area in the destination file is either skipped (on initial creation that means padded with zeros) or deliberately filled with a recognizable pattern to later find affected files on a corrupted device. The work is similar to ddrescue, generating an image of the original media. This media can be floppy disks, harddisk partitions, CDs, DVDs, tape devices, where other tools like dd would fail due to I/O errors. . Safecopy uses an incremental algorithm to identify the exact beginning and end of bad areas, allowing the user to trade minimum accesses to bad areas for thorough data resurrection. . Multiple passes over the same file are possible, to first retrieve as much data from a device as possible with minimum harm, and then trying to retrieve some of the remaining data with increasingly aggressive read attempts. . Safecopy includes a low level I/O layer to read CDROM disks in raw mode, and issue device resets and other helpful low level operations on a number of other device classes. . Safecopy is useful in forensics investigations and disaster recovery. +++ END SAFECOPY DESCRIPTION +++ Good luck, whatever you end up using.. :) Cindy :) -- Cindy-Sue Causey Talking Rock, Pickens County, Georgia, USA * runs with duct tape *
Re: Help needed with home network configuration
On Thu 15 Mar 2018 at 10:18:20 (-0700), Don Armstrong wrote: > On Wed, 14 Mar 2018, David Wright wrote: > > When you reprogram routers with dd-wrt, does that allow it to do, say, > > wired bridging even though the manufacturer's formware doesn't allow > > for that? > > openwrt and dd-wrt both allow wired bridging[1] (or pseudo-bridging by > routing if your wireless hardware doesn't support that). > > > 1: I suppose there might be some network hardware which doesn't support > actual bridging of wired interfaces, but I've yet to see such an > example. I think the router I've been using for the last few years is one. Although the User Manual from May 2013¹ has a brief section on bridging, the June 2014² revision is missing that part. Both have a "Wireless Repeating" link on the figure for Advanced Wireless Settings, but the link is not present in the actual configuration screen on the device. In any case, the May 2013 manual says that to use it as a repeater, even wired, you have to set security to WEP or None. That's no use. I wandered into BestBuy and couldn't find much about bridging on any of their router boxes. (Obviously I'm eschewing so-called WiFi Wireless Repeaters.) What I'm trying to ascertain is that all the wired bridging functionality is performed by the software and not any special hardware in the device. Required topology: ╲│╱ ╲│╱ ╲│╱ ┌───┐ ┌───┐ ┌───┐ │W L╞CAT5 │W L╞═PC│ ROKUs │ [Modem]══╡A A╞═╡A A╞ │ etc │ │N N╞ │N N╞ └───┘ │ ╞═PC │ ╞═PC └───┘ └───┘ ¹ WNDR3400v3_UM_10May2013.pdf ² WNDR3400v3_UM_19June2014.pdf (Thanks to Gene, too) Cheers, David.
Re: Debian on flash a store.
On 03/15/18 12:24, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Le 15/03/2018 à 06:01, David Christensen a écrit : 2. Instead of RAID1, use a checksumming file system (btrfs), take images periodically, put key configuration files into a version control system, and backup data daily. This is what I do for all my system drives. All these techniques are backup. RAID does not have the same purpose. RAID (with redundancy) is designed to provide availability. Let me add that mine is a SOHO network that does not require 24x7 uptime. And, since switching to solid-state system drives, I have yet to experience a system drive hardware failure. My most common failure mode is instability due to system administration mistakes and root software development bugs. RAID1 won't help me; recovering from an earlier known-good image will. Virtual machine snapshots make recovery even easier. If/when the Debian Installer supports ZFS boot and encrypted root, I can install ZFS snapshotting software and will have yet another option. David
dd_help missing from stretch repos
My new 2TB HD just arrived. Old 1.5TB to be rescued, made in 2010, has 8 pending sectors reported by smartctl. e2fsck locks up the PC trying to fix its EXT2 filesystem. I know if anything could bail me out, dd_rhelp could. Debian bugs Google found about dd_rhelp: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=252198 https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=254759 I see gddrescue in the repos, but my experience with dd_rehelp is only favorable. Can someone tell me how they compare, or even if they are comparable? Do Debian users simply extract the script from the lastest archive version on www.kalysto.org and run it? -- "Wisdom is supreme; therefore get wisdom. Whatever else you get, get wisdom." Proverbs 4:7 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/
Aw: Re: Stretch kernel vulnerable to meltdown
> 15. März 2018, 18:05 Uhr, "Henrique de Moraes Holschuh": > > On Thu, 15 Mar 2018, Peter Steinmetz wrote: > > should be fixed wrt meltdown. But I see this > > # grep -R . /sys/devices/system/cpu/vulnerabilities/ > > /sys/devices/system/cpu/vulnerabilities/spectre_v2:Mitigation: Full generic > > retpoline > > /sys/devices/system/cpu/vulnerabilities/spectre_v1:Mitigation: __user > > pointer sanitization > > /sys/devices/system/cpu/vulnerabilities/meltdown:Vulnerable > > > > Why / what am I missing? > > Check the kernel boot log using either dmesg or "journalctl -k -b". > Look for "Kernel/User page tables isolation". Doesn't seem to be there. > Here, that same kernel reports "Mitigation: PTI" in > /sys/devices/system/cpu/vulnerabilities/meltdown > > and: > > # uname -rv ; journalctl -k -b | grep isolation > 4.9.0-6-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.9.82-1+deb9u3 (2018-03-02) > [redacted] kernel: Kernel/User page tables isolation: enabled # journalctl -k -b | grep isolation; echo $? 1 # This kernel is running as a Dom0-kernel on Xen. Might that be the reason? Peter
Re: Debian on flash a store.
Le 15/03/2018 à 06:01, David Christensen a écrit : I also thought about two USB flash drives and RAID: 1. Instead of RAID0, get a PATA or SATA SSD (or DOM). Used drives can be found on eBay for cheap, especially SATA I or II. RAID 0 with USB flash drives ? You like to live dangerously. 2. Instead of RAID1, use a checksumming file system (btrfs), take images periodically, put key configuration files into a version control system, and backup data daily. This is what I do for all my system drives. All these techniques are backup. RAID does not have the same purpose. RAID (with redundancy) is designed to provide availability.
Re: Finding image file underlying an icon on Mate desktop
On 03/15/2018 11:45 AM, Curt wrote: On 2018-03-14, Richard Owlett wrote: Is there a way? [for current application creating a new icon will be simple] [finding the old icon would be convenient] It seems right-clicking on the desktop and selecting “Change Desktop Background”, then “Customize,” then "Icons," will reveal a list of all the icons installed on the system. But I'm using the MATE desktop. Right-clicking on the desktop and selecting “Change Desktop Background” allows me to chose between "Theme", "Background", "Fonts", and "Interface". Under "Theme->Customize" there is an option to chose a preferred family for most [NOT ALL] applications installed from the Debian repository. It has no effect on some applications [e.g. basic256] and on any custom launchers or shortcuts. In fact this is likely the source of my confusion as for several Debian repository packages I disliked the default icon. Clicking on the icon displayed in the launcher's property tab takes you directly to the folder containing the icon. And yes, this is the Internet so you're supposed to tailor your questions to our answers rather than the reverse, as someone pointedly pointed out in the "pointers" thread (after having changed the point). <*ROFL*> I frequently am able to side-step that choosing where to post which questions and format the questions in a way that will will prompt ON-TOPIC replies ;/
Re: No sound in Firefox
On Thu, 15 Mar 2018, Charlie Gibbs wrote: Just as an aside, how about switching to Seamonkey? Back when Firefox brought out release 29, I didn't like what they did to the user interface, and made the switch. Seamonkey is another fork of the original Netscape code which preserves a lot of the original look and feel, as well as (for me) reliability. https://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/ presently, I use icewweasel (ffx52) when I need sound, and ffx59 otherwise. That works perfectly. An other possibility with ffx59 is to download the file you want to play, and play it locally. By curiosity, I installed seamomkey from the tar ball, but I found it less powerful than firefox. For example. in firefox, you can easily manage the side bar corresponding to places.sqlite (CTRl-b),i.e. add or remove links, and this is much more easier than editing a bookmarks.html. Also, you can choose the different font sizes (text, toolbar,...) with the file userChrome.css. I didn't find the equivalent in seamonkey. best regards, -- Pierre Frenkiel
Re: Help needed with home network configuration
On Wed, 14 Mar 2018, David Wright wrote: > When you reprogram routers with dd-wrt, does that allow it to do, say, > wired bridging even though the manufacturer's formware doesn't allow > for that? openwrt and dd-wrt both allow wired bridging[1] (or pseudo-bridging by routing if your wireless hardware doesn't support that). 1: I suppose there might be some network hardware which doesn't support actual bridging of wired interfaces, but I've yet to see such an example. -- Don Armstrong https://www.donarmstrong.com You think to yourself, hey, it's a test tube, for God's sake. Pretty soon, though, the rush from a test tube isn't enough. You want to experiment more and more. Then before you know it, you're laying in the corner of a lab somewhere with a Soxhlet apparatus in one hand, a three neck flask in the other, strung out and begging for grant money. -- Tim Mitchell, 1994 Ig Nobel Chemistry Prize Speech
Re: Stretch kernel vulnerable to meltdown
On Thu, 15 Mar 2018, Peter Steinmetz wrote: > should be fixed wrt meltdown. But I see this > # grep -R . /sys/devices/system/cpu/vulnerabilities/ > /sys/devices/system/cpu/vulnerabilities/spectre_v2:Mitigation: Full generic > retpoline > /sys/devices/system/cpu/vulnerabilities/spectre_v1:Mitigation: __user pointer > sanitization > /sys/devices/system/cpu/vulnerabilities/meltdown:Vulnerable > > Why / what am I missing? Check the kernel boot log using either dmesg or "journalctl -k -b". Look for "Kernel/User page tables isolation". Here, that same kernel reports "Mitigation: PTI" in /sys/devices/system/cpu/vulnerabilities/meltdown and: # uname -rv ; journalctl -k -b | grep isolation 4.9.0-6-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.9.82-1+deb9u3 (2018-03-02) [redacted] kernel: Kernel/User page tables isolation: enabled -- Henrique Holschuh
Re: Finding image file underlying an icon on Mate desktop
On 2018-03-14, Richard Owlett wrote: > > Is there a way? > [for current application creating a new icon will be simple] > [finding the old icon would be convenient] > It seems right-clicking on the desktop and selecting “Change Desktop Background”, then “Customize,” then "Icons," will reveal a list of all the icons installed on the system. And yes, this is the Internet so you're supposed to tailor your questions to our answers rather than the reverse, as someone pointedly pointed out in the "pointers" thread (after having changed the point). > > > -- Bah, the latest news, the latest news is not the last. Samuel Beckett
Re: No sound in Firefox
On Thu 15 Mar 2018 at 13:37:36 (+0100), to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 08:24:14AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 11:13:42AM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > [...] > > > I seriously doubt they would accept a patch to restore the ALSA > > features that they intentionally removed with the goal of not having > > to support multiple audio output backends. > > The discussion sounded as if they just hadn't the bandwidth to cope > with another backend: so a credible offer seems still out... > > > I don't use Pulse Audio either, and have no intention of doing so in > > the near future. If Firefox doesn't support ALSA, then I will not be > > listening to audio in Firefox. > > As I do... > > > I still have Google-Chrome installed, > > and I use that for the rare occasion when I want to watch/listen to a > > YouTube submission. > > Eeek :-) > > For me, it's youtube-dl and cclive. I'm fine with my browser not > being able to make noise. On the contrary, the less the browser > is capable of, the better... > > Including not mining cryptocurrency for other people :-) Yes, I prefer to download any videos I actually want to play. I would also prefer not to have them play silently either. The recent thread "WTF does Firefox 58?" touched on this but wasn't very specific, with a reference to https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-stop-firefox-making-automatic-connections (lots of different features in here), but the referrer said they hadn't tried these methods anyway. Any ideas? (I'm assuming what plays is not flash, as I *think* I have no flash available to this particular system's browser.) Cheers, David.
Stretch kernel vulnerable to meltdown
Hi, according to this https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2017-5754 this kernel # uname -rv 4.9.0-6-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.9.82-1+deb9u3 (2018-03-02) should be fixed wrt meltdown. But I see this # grep -R . /sys/devices/system/cpu/vulnerabilities/ /sys/devices/system/cpu/vulnerabilities/spectre_v2:Mitigation: Full generic retpoline /sys/devices/system/cpu/vulnerabilities/spectre_v1:Mitigation: __user pointer sanitization /sys/devices/system/cpu/vulnerabilities/meltdown:Vulnerable Why / what am I missing? TIA, Peter
Re: No sound in Firefox
On 15/03/18 02:12 AM, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: On Thu, 15 Mar 2018, Abdullah Ramazanoglu wrote: On Wed, 14 Mar 2018 23:00:58 +0100 (CET) Pierre Frenkiel wrote: On Wed, 14 Mar 2018, Abdullah Ramazanoglu wrote: Wouldn't it render your system root-vulnerable to some malignant active content (JS)? of course, but I try to avoid URLs I don't know. A URL you do know might possibly be owned (hacked into). the only one I really use is youtube, but anyway, I found a much better solution: - when I need sound, I use iceweasel (ffx version 52), and current ffx version (now 59) otherwise. Can anybody answer these 2 questions: - why, with ffx 59, the sound works for root and not for a normal user, even with pulseaudio? - why these damned firefox guys so obviously ignore the user's needs, and removed a feature wich worked from the origin to v52? Just as an aside, how about switching to Seamonkey? Back when Firefox brought out release 29, I didn't like what they did to the user interface, and made the switch. Seamonkey is another fork of the original Netscape code which preserves a lot of the original look and feel, as well as (for me) reliability. https://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/ -- cgi...@surfnaked.ca (Charlie Gibbs)
Re: No sound in Firefox
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 08:24:14AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 11:13:42AM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > I seriously doubt they would accept a patch to restore the ALSA > features that they intentionally removed with the goal of not having > to support multiple audio output backends. The discussion sounded as if they just hadn't the bandwidth to cope with another backend: so a credible offer seems still out... > I don't use Pulse Audio either, and have no intention of doing so in > the near future. If Firefox doesn't support ALSA, then I will not be > listening to audio in Firefox. As I do... > I still have Google-Chrome installed, > and I use that for the rare occasion when I want to watch/listen to a > YouTube submission. Eeek :-) For me, it's youtube-dl and cclive. I'm fine with my browser not being able to make noise. On the contrary, the less the browser is capable of, the better... Including not mining cryptocurrency for other people :-) Cheers - -- t -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlqqaRAACgkQBcgs9XrR2kYNEACfVzvt1Z0Fke1S6Fng1al82fPY 54EAnAt6wXDOwL6W6Fdo7SphLD4pLRIO =Q8D5 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: No sound in Firefox
On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 11:13:42AM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > Most things work out of the box. OK, newer Firefoxes are ripping > out Alsa support... I don't really care: I consider the browser > a necessary evil anyway, so some amount of dysfunctionality is > a Good Thing. If you want Alsa support in the browser, I think > Mozilla is taking patches. I seriously doubt they would accept a patch to restore the ALSA features that they intentionally removed with the goal of not having to support multiple audio output backends. I don't use Pulse Audio either, and have no intention of doing so in the near future. If Firefox doesn't support ALSA, then I will not be listening to audio in Firefox. I still have Google-Chrome installed, and I use that for the rare occasion when I want to watch/listen to a YouTube submission.
Re: Debian on flash a store.
On Thu, 2018-03-15 at 19:33 +1300, Richard Hector wrote: > On 15/03/18 18:01, David Christensen wrote: > > That said, why do you have storage in a thin client? I thought the idea > > is to boot the clients over the network, run from RAM, and have the > > server do most of the work (?). > > They were intended as thin clients - I'm not using them as such. I just > use them as cheap machines with mimimal power consumption, that I can > leave running even when more powerful machines are shut down. My openvpn > endpoint is one such case (it also runs a DNS server). > > I don't need much storage, but I want it to be fairly reliable, and be > sure I can replace it quickly if required. Importing a specialist DOM > from overseas is not quick; buying a usb stick (from the supermarket or > service station if need be) is :-) > > These things only cost me NZ$20 each (for 5) - and an added bonus is > that the old atom (N280) cpu is not vulnerable to meltdown :-) > > Richard > I also use thin clients as Richard does. Some I've attached an SSD via the USB port and that works well. I've got 2 others that I've used the internal memory as storage. The internal memory originally held the boot loader to boot from a server. The size is 2Gbits so it's big enough for Debian for Alix or dare I say it here XP. Another has a flash memory stick, again with Debian for Alix on it. David.
Re: Finding image file underlying an icon on Mate desktop
On 2018-03-15, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 03/14/2018 05:30 PM, Liam O'Toole wrote: >> On 2018-03-14, Richard Owlett wrote: >>> Several months ago I needed a fully custom desktop icon for a shortcut. >>> I had no trouble creating an appropriate png file and having it display. >>> Now I need a similar icon. I went to the properties of the shortcut >>> expecting to be able to discover the location of the image used. >>> >>> I could not. Clicking on the icon's image allows replacing it but no >>> apparent way to discover its location. >>> >>> Is there a way? >>> [for current application creating a new icon will be simple] >>> [finding the old icon would be convenient] >>> >>> TIA >>> >> >> Examine the .desktop file in your ~/Desktop directory. Look for a line >> beginning with "Icon". >> >> > > I have *NO* .desktop under /home/richard/Desktop > You stated that you "went to the properties of the shortcut". What was the value of "Parent Folder" in the Properties window?
Re: No sound in Firefox
On Thu 15 Mar 2018 at 09:29:54 +0100, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: > On Thu, 15 Mar 2018, Dominique Dumont wrote: > > > On Wednesday, 14 March 2018 20:23:32 CET Pierre Frenkiel wrote: > > > This is for a normal user. Curiously, with the root account, > > > the sound works perfectly (I already saw that behaviour some time ago) > > > So, instead of "firefox", I run "sudo /usr/bin/firefox" > > > > Can you check if "normal user" is part of audio group ? > > > > HTH > > > yes, it is. Being in the audio group is unnecessary and actually redundant. You could check the ACLs on /dev/snd/*. brian@desktop:~$ ls -l /dev/snd/* crw-rw+ 1 root audio 116, 2 Dec 17 22:29 /dev/snd/controlC0 crw-rw+ 1 root audio 116, 4 Feb 28 13:11 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0c crw-rw+ 1 root audio 116, 3 Mar 14 17:55 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p crw-rw+ 1 root audio 116, 6 Dec 17 22:29 /dev/snd/pcmC0D1c crw-rw+ 1 root audio 116, 5 Dec 17 22:29 /dev/snd/pcmC0D1p crw-rw+ 1 root audio 116, 1 Dec 17 22:29 /dev/snd/seq crw-rw+ 1 root audio 116, 33 Dec 17 22:29 /dev/snd/timer /dev/snd/by-path: total 0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 12 Dec 17 22:29 pci-:00:11.5 -> ../controlC0 brian@desktop:~$ getfacl /dev/snd/controlC0 getfacl: Removing leading '/' from absolute path names # file: dev/snd/controlC0 # owner: root # group: audio user::rw- user:brian:rw- group::rw- mask::rw- other::--- -- Brian.
Re: No sound in Firefox
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 From: tomas To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Cc: Bcc: Subject: Re: No sound in Firefox Reply-To: In-Reply-To: On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 11:27:49AM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: > Hi, [...] > PluseAudio is the last crap on earth and I do not even know, > WHY everything depends on it (and can not be changed) Hm. Not everybody likes PulseAudio (I don't). Still... can't we get along? Their authors are making free software, so *thank you*. > It is not even possibel to get rid of it, > otherwise the WHOLE audiosystem will not more work! This is not true. Debian Stretch here. No PulseAudio, just Alsa. Most things work out of the box. OK, newer Firefoxes are ripping out Alsa support... I don't really care: I consider the browser a necessary evil anyway, so some amount of dysfunctionality is a Good Thing. If you want Alsa support in the browser, I think Mozilla is taking patches. Cheers - -- tomás -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlqqR1YACgkQBcgs9XrR2kahnQCcDJ86a8zxsQ9CM0bZlWsMJCC3 LFsAnAyjUysTkDix5mikJ8aJoUfKlZKs =HzwA -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: No sound in Firefox
On Thu, 15 Mar 2018, Dominique Dumont wrote: On Thursday, 15 March 2018 10:12:22 CET Pierre Frenkiel wrote: - why, with ffx 59, the sound works for root and not for a normal user, even with pulseaudio? ff59 audio works fine on my system. Can you check if ff59 is seen by pavucontrol (in Playback tab) when playing audio ? When I run any sound player, it is shown in the pavucontrol playback tab, but not I try to play any sound from firefox (youtube for example) I tha rcase, I only have "system sound", and no application. how can I add ffx? best regards, -- Pierre Frenkiel
Re: No sound in Firefox
On Thu, 15 Mar 2018, Michelle Konzack wrote: This can not be true, because I use Debian Stretch, have FF58 installed and it works perfectly except that I hate pulseaudio, because it need 5 minutes to start! (Login up to WindowManager usage) PluseAudio is the last crap on earth and I do not even know, WHY everything depends on it (and can not be changed) It is not even possibel to get rid of it, otherwise the WHOLE audiosystem will not more work! hi Michelle, we are both on Debian Stretch, but anyway have not the same behaviour: for me, pulseaudio takes 3 seconds to start, but I have no sound. best regards, -- Pierre Frenkiel
Re: No sound in Firefox
On Thu, 15 Mar 2018, Brad Rogers wrote: I have found that, sometimes, even when starting in safe mode, with an extant settings directory some things remain messed up. The easiest way to overcome was move settings out of the way and start again. See what happens by renaming your FF settings directory so a new profile is created when you start up. hi Brad, thank you for this suggestion, but I already did that many times. best regards, -- Pierre Frenkiel
Re: No sound in Firefox
Hi, Am 2018-03-15 hackte Pierre Frenkiel in die Tasten: > On Mon, 20 Mar 2017, Marc Shapiro wrote: > >> I think that I'll keep my copy of Firefox v51.0.1 around for a >> while, until I >> am sure that I don't need to revert to it. > > I reopen this thread, as there are news issues with versions 58 and > 59: > with V58 + pulseaudio: no sound, no message This can not be true, because I use Debian Stretch, have FF58 installed and it works perfectly except that I hate pulseaudio, because it need 5 minutes to start! (Login up to WindowManager usage) PluseAudio is the last crap on earth and I do not even know, WHY everything depends on it (and can not be changed) It is not even possibel to get rid of it, otherwise the WHOLE audiosystem will not more work! -- Michelle KonzackMiila ITSystems @ TDnet GNU/Linux Developer 00372-54541400
Re: No sound in Firefox
On Thu, 15 Mar 2018 10:12:22 +0100 (CET) Pierre Frenkiel wrote: Hello Pierre, > - why, with ffx 59, the sound works for root and not for a normal > user, even with pulseaudio? I have found that, sometimes, even when starting in safe mode, with an extant settings directory some things remain messed up. The easiest way to overcome was move settings out of the way and start again. See what happens by renaming your FF settings directory so a new profile is created when you start up. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent" Loaded like a freight train flyin' like an aeroplane Nightrain - Guns 'N' Roses pgpiC4PZcDV90.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: No sound in Firefox
On Thursday, 15 March 2018 10:12:22 CET Pierre Frenkiel wrote: > - why, with ffx 59, the sound works for root and not for a normal user, > even with pulseaudio? ff59 audio works fine on my system. Can you check if ff59 is seen by pavucontrol (in Playback tab) when playing audio ?
Re: No sound in Firefox
On Thu, 15 Mar 2018, Abdullah Ramazanoglu wrote: On Wed, 14 Mar 2018 23:00:58 +0100 (CET) Pierre Frenkiel wrote: On Wed, 14 Mar 2018, Abdullah Ramazanoglu wrote: Wouldn't it render your system root-vulnerable to some malignant active content (JS)? of course, but I try to avoid URLs I don't know. A URL you do know might possibly be owned (hacked into). the only one I really use is youtube, but anyway, I found a much better solution: - when I need sound, I use iceweasel (ffx version 52), and current ffx version (now 59) otherwise. Can anybody answer these 2 questions: - why, with ffx 59, the sound works for root and not for a normal user, even with pulseaudio? - why these damned firefox guys so obviously ignore the user's needs, and removed a feature wich worked from the origin to v52? best regards, -- Pierre Frenkiel
Re: No sound in Firefox
On Thu, 15 Mar 2018, Dominique Dumont wrote: On Wednesday, 14 March 2018 20:23:32 CET Pierre Frenkiel wrote: This is for a normal user. Curiously, with the root account, the sound works perfectly (I already saw that behaviour some time ago) So, instead of "firefox", I run "sudo /usr/bin/firefox" Can you check if "normal user" is part of audio group ? HTH yes, it is.
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Re: No sound in Firefox
On Wednesday, 14 March 2018 20:23:32 CET Pierre Frenkiel wrote: > This is for a normal user. Curiously, with the root account, > the sound works perfectly (I already saw that behaviour some time ago) > So, instead of "firefox", I run "sudo /usr/bin/firefox" Can you check if "normal user" is part of audio group ? HTH
