Re: No font package for CJK Unified Ideographs Extension B?

2019-03-05 Thread ksqsf
在 2019-03-06三的 09:02 +0800,積丹尼 Dan Jacobson写道:
> I still see two empty squares on the first line, seven on the second
> line, etc.
> 

That's weird. I can see all of them and the creators of Hanazono claim
so [1].

[1] http://fonts.jp/hanazono/





Re: No font package for CJK Unified Ideographs Extension B?

2019-03-05 Thread 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson
k> I recommend the Hanazono fonts (packaged as 'fonts-hanazono'), which
k> supports all of them!
Thanks, but on
https://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/block/cjk_unified_ideographs_extension_b/utf8test.htm
I still see two empty squares on the first line, seven on the second
line, etc.



Re: Laptop still extremely slow after replacing msata ssd and putting old one back

2019-03-05 Thread Jimmy Johnson

hdv@gmail wrote:

On 05/03/2019 04.28, Paul Ezvan wrote:

Le 04/03/2019 à 13:32, deloptes a écrit :

double check - I had similar observation when trying to setup USB stick boot
for a notebook - it's a company property, so not supposed to do that ;-)

Well turned out that I had to modify few bios settings to see the usb
working at acceptable speed. First I was thinking the one stick was a
problem, but after observing the same with a second one I looked at the
bios and it did it.

regards


What does "top" show when your menu takes a long time to load? What is the CPU
temp? Maybe you accidentaly touched the cooling system while replacing the SSD?


What I forgot to mention (sloppy, sorry for that) is that the slowness already
happens at "grub" time. I presume that rules out trouble with my DE (KDE/Plasma)
or systemd or something like that.

I am thinking hardware trouble too. Not only because the trouble start before
the kernel and DE gets loaded, but also because it happens with two different
SSDs. It happens with the new one with a freshly installed system, and with the
old one that I never had any trouble with before this and that hasn't been
changed (by me that is). In both cases the slowness begins immediately after
boot. Possibly after the BIOS has run, but definitely before the kernel gets
loaded or otherwise during the earliest stages of loading it.

Thanks for the pointer to the cooling. I will check that.

Grx HdV



Is the bios still showing all the installed ram, are there any test you 
can run from the bios...

--
Jimmy Johnson

Slackware64 14.2 - KDE 4.14.32 - AMD A8-7600 - EXT4 at sda9
Registered Linux User #380263



Re: Re: No font package for CJK Unified Ideographs Extension B?

2019-03-05 Thread ksqsf
Hi,

> Now I even see about half of
> 
https://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/block/cjk_unified_ideographs_extension_b/utf8test.htm
> too!

I recommend the Hanazono fonts (packaged as 'fonts-hanazono'), which
supports all of them!





Re: Fdw Fstab Questions

2019-03-05 Thread deloptes
Stephen P. Molnar wrote:

> Finally, if the answer(s), to either or both, is/are 'no' - what should
> the fstab entries be in order to allow users to Read/Write?

Read/Write depends more or less on what permissions you grant to the
directories, where those users are allowed to read and write.

The fstab file handles the mounting with default permissions on the
device-to-mount-point ... but under the mount point it is all permissions
that are not exactly handled by the fstab options.

If you want users to be able to u/mount partitions and get default (for
example no execution of files) fstab is good. The rest is permissions on
the directories below the mount point.





Re: Fdw Fstab Questions

2019-03-05 Thread riveravaldez
> Here is my durectiry stucture:
>
> NAME MAJ:MIN RM SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINT
> sda 8:0 0 465.8G 0 disk
> ??sda1 8:1 0 457.9G 0 part /
> ??sda2 8:2 0 1K 0 part
> ??sda5 8:5 0 7.9G 0 part [SWAP]
> sdb 8:16 0 1.8T 0 disk
> ??sdb1 8:17 0 1.8T 0 part /media/comp/900b5f0b-4f3d-4a64-8c91-29aee4c6fd07
> ??sdb2 8:18 0 1K 0 part
> ??sdb5 8:21 0 7.9G 0 part
> sdc 8:32 0 465.8G 0 disk
> ??sdc1 8:33 0 465.8G 0 part
> /media/comp/1f363165-2c59-4236-850d-36d1e807099e
> sr0 11:0 1 1024M 0 rom
>
> Here is what I have the installed fstab:
>
> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
> #
> # Use 'blkid' to print the universally unique identifier for a
> # device; this may be used with UUID= as a more robust way to name devices
> # that works even if disks are added and removed. See fstab(5).
> #
> #  
> # / was on /dev/sda1 during installation
> UUID=4dc278b7-1792-4e89-b67e-a517fce97d19 / ext4 errors=remount-ro 0 1
> # swap was on /dev/sda5 during installation
> UUID=acfb9d26-69c6-4489-88fc-12f5c50bda97 none swap sw 0 0
> /dev/sr0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0
>
> Here is what I'm proposing:
>
> /dev/sda1 / ext4 defaults 0 1 <==
> /dev/sda5 none swap sw 0 0<==
> /dev/sdb1 /hdb1 ext4 defaults 0 0 <==
> /dev/sdc1 /hdc1 ext4 defaults 0 0 <==

It's always recommended to use UUID instead of /dev/sdxN.

First line I think should be:

/dev/sda1 / ext4 errors=remount-ro 0 1

And the last two:

/dev/sdb1 /hdb1 ext4 defaults 0 2
/dev/sdc1 /hdc1 ext4 defaults 0 2

> There are two key questions:
>
> 1. Will the boot proceed to completion?

If you use UUID it should (in fact, the first line, the one for the
root partition, should stay the same).

Check the mount points for sdb1 and sdc1. Test if you can mount the
partitions there before modifying fstab and reboot.

> 2. Will users have read/write permission?

The 'defaults' option implies that.

"defaults - default mount settings (equivalent to
rw,suid,dev,exec,auto,nouser,async)."

For a better understanding of this you should read [1] and maybe [2].

> Finally, if the answer(s), to either or both, is/are 'no' - what should
> the fstab entries be in order to allow users to Read/Write?

I think it's appropriate to insist in the use of UUID.

> Thanks in advance.

You're welcome. Hope everything works fine.

[1] https://wiki.debian.org/fstab
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fstab



Fdw Fstab Questions

2019-03-05 Thread Stephen P. Molnar

P;ease see correction, below:


 Original Message 
Subject:Fstab Questions
Date:   Tue, 05 Mar 2019 14:14:55 -0500
From:   Stephen P. Molnar 
To: COLUG 



I have just reinstalled Debian Stretch and have soee questions about the
fstab.

I have installed a new hdc.

Here is my durectiry stucture:

NAME MAJ:MIN RM SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINT
sda 8:0 0 465.8G 0 disk
??sda1 8:1 0 457.9G 0 part /
??sda2 8:2 0 1K 0 part
??sda5 8:5 0 7.9G 0 part [SWAP]
sdb 8:16 0 1.8T 0 disk
??sdb1 8:17 0 1.8T 0 part /media/comp/900b5f0b-4f3d-4a64-8c91-29aee4c6fd07
??sdb2 8:18 0 1K 0 part
??sdb5 8:21 0 7.9G 0 part
sdc 8:32 0 465.8G 0 disk
??sdc1 8:33 0 465.8G 0 part /media/comp/1f363165-2c59-4236-850d-36d1e807099e
sr0 11:0 1 1024M 0 rom

Here is what I have the installed fstab:

# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# Use 'blkid' to print the universally unique identifier for a
# device; this may be used with UUID= as a more robust way to name devices
# that works even if disks are added and removed. See fstab(5).
#
#  
# / was on /dev/sda1 during installation
UUID=4dc278b7-1792-4e89-b67e-a517fce97d19 / ext4 errors=remount-ro 0 1
# swap was on /dev/sda5 during installation
UUID=acfb9d26-69c6-4489-88fc-12f5c50bda97 none swap sw 0 0
/dev/sr0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0

Here is what I'm proposing:

/dev/sda1 / ext4 defaults 0 1   <==
/dev/sda5 none swap sw 0 0  <==
/dev/sdb1 /hdb1 ext4 defaults 0 0   <==
/dev/sdc1 /hdc1 ext4 defaults 0 0   <==

There are two key questions:

1. Will the boot proceed to completion?
2. Will users have read/write permission?

Finally, if the answer(s), to either or both, is/are 'no' - what should
the fstab entries be in order to allow users to Read/Write?

Thanks in advance.

--
Stephen P. Molnar, Ph.D.
Consultant
www.molecular-modeling.net
(614)312-7528 (c)
Skype: smolnar1


--
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Consultant
www.molecular-modeling.net
(614)312-7528 (c)
Skype: smolnar1



Re: User rw Permissions on New Hard Drive

2019-03-05 Thread Pascal Hambourg

Le 05/03/2019 à 15:17, Stephen P. Molnar a écrit :


NAME   MAJ:MIN RM   SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINT
sda  8:0    0 465.8G  0 disk
├─sda1   8:1    0 457.9G  0 part /
├─sda2   8:2    0 1K  0 part
└─sda5   8:5    0   7.9G  0 part [SWAP]
sdb  8:16   0   1.8T  0 disk
├─sdb1   8:17   0   1.8T  0 part 
/media/comp/900b5f0b-4f3d-4a64-8c91-29aee4c6fd07

├─sdb2   8:18   0 1K  0 part
└─sdb5   8:21   0   7.9G  0 part
sdc  8:32   0 465.8G  0 disk
└─sdc1   8:33   0 465.8G  0 part 
/media/comp/1f363165-2c59-4236-850d-36d1e807099e

sr0 11:0    1  1024M  0 rom

(...)


Here is wwhat I'm proposing:

/dev/hda1 / ext4 defaults 0 1
/dev/hda5 none swap sw 0 0
/dev/hdb1 /hdb1 ext4 defaults 0 0
/dev/hdc1 /hdc1 ext4 defaults 0 0

There are two key questions:

     1.  Will the boot proceed to completion?


No. /dev/hd* do not exist.


     2.  Will users have read/write permission?


No. At best, you will end up in emergency mode with a read-only root 
filesystem.


Finally, if the answer(s), to either or both, is/are 'no' - what should 
the fstab entries be in order to allow users to Read/Write?


Leave existing / and swap lines as they are.
Device names /dev/sd* are not persistent and may change at each boot.
Use UUID or LABEL instead of device names to identify the filesystem.
Do not name mount points after supposed device names. Choose names based 
on contents instead.


Finally, user permissions are not set in fstab. They are set in the 
filesystem itself, using chown/chmod if you are using standard Unix 
permissions or setfacl if you are going with ACLs.




Re: Docker and Container Tools Podman/Buildah/Skopeo

2019-03-05 Thread Reco
Hi.

On Tue, Mar 05, 2019 at 05:07:00PM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 05, 2019 at 06:10:40PM +0300, Reco wrote:
> > Hi.
> > 
> > On Tue, Mar 05, 2019 at 02:26:24PM +0100, plataleas plataleas wrote:
> > > Hi all
> > > 
> > > RedHat announced with RHEL8 that the docker container engine is replaced 
> > > by
> > 
> > s/RedHat/IBM/g
> > 
> > fixed that for you.
> > 
> > 
> > > What does the Debian community think of this move?
> > 
> > Mixed, but I speak only for myself.
> > On one hand, RedHat is known for its Not-Invented-Here syndrome.
> > Endless re-implementation of known tools can hardly do anyone any good.
> > Also, vendor lock-in and all that.
> 
> You may dislike Redhat all you want (and hey, I've my beefs with them
> too) but they do pay part of the bills (sometimes a significant part!)
> for many things that are dear to our hearts. For example gcc, the GNU
> C library and many friends (binutils, etc.) through their acquisition
> of Cygnus Support (these days called Sourceware) in the 2000s; further
> to the Linux kernel (through many kernel people on RH's paylist -- use
> your own search engine this time ;-) and many, many more things.

Indeed. For instance, RedHat in its infinite wisdom blessed us with
pulseaudio (#worksinfedora), systemd (#notabug), GNOME 3 (#itsmodern),
Network Manager (aka Notwork Mangler), Flatpack (#designedforshovelware)
and many other Finely Designed Programs™.


> Actually more than can be said about Canonical, for example (the latter
> have at least given back to Debian by having Debian Developers on
> payroll, so...)

Canonical's famous for their NIH too. Mir, Unity, LXD - it's a long
list, although RedHat has longer one.


> As for the docker thingies... I get what they are supposed to do. But if
> I can convince someone else to to the dirty work...

Hear, hear.

Reco



Re: Docker and Container Tools Podman/Buildah/Skopeo

2019-03-05 Thread tomas
On Tue, Mar 05, 2019 at 06:10:40PM +0300, Reco wrote:
>   Hi.
> 
> On Tue, Mar 05, 2019 at 02:26:24PM +0100, plataleas plataleas wrote:
> > Hi all
> > 
> > RedHat announced with RHEL8 that the docker container engine is replaced by
> 
> s/RedHat/IBM/g
> 
> fixed that for you.
> 
> 
> > What does the Debian community think of this move?
> 
> Mixed, but I speak only for myself.
> On one hand, RedHat is known for its Not-Invented-Here syndrome.
> Endless re-implementation of known tools can hardly do anyone any good.
> Also, vendor lock-in and all that.

You may dislike Redhat all you want (and hey, I've my beefs with them
too) but they do pay part of the bills (sometimes a significant part!)
for many things that are dear to our hearts. For example gcc, the GNU
C library and many friends (binutils, etc.) through their acquisition
of Cygnus Support (these days called Sourceware) in the 2000s; further
to the Linux kernel (through many kernel people on RH's paylist -- use
your own search engine this time ;-) and many, many more things.

Actually more than can be said about Canonical, for example (the latter
have at least given back to Debian by having Debian Developers on
payroll, so...)

As for the docker thingies... I get what they are supposed to do. But if
I can convince someone else to to the dirty work...

Cheers

[1] https://sourceware.org/news.html
-- tomás


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Re: Docker and Container Tools Podman/Buildah/Skopeo

2019-03-05 Thread Reco
Hi.

On Tue, Mar 05, 2019 at 02:26:24PM +0100, plataleas plataleas wrote:
> Hi all
> 
> RedHat announced with RHEL8 that the docker container engine is replaced by

s/RedHat/IBM/g

fixed that for you.


> What does the Debian community think of this move?

Mixed, but I speak only for myself.
On one hand, RedHat is known for its Not-Invented-Here syndrome.
Endless re-implementation of known tools can hardly do anyone any good.
Also, vendor lock-in and all that.

On the other hand, "Docker Community"/"Docker Enterprise" - [1]? That's
the road that no sensible program should take.


> Does it make sense to prefer podman/buildah/skopeo over the docker
> engine on Debian systems as well?

I'd suggest runc if you're looking for a viable alternative right now.

Reco

[1] https://www.docker.com/products



Re: User rw Permissions on New Hard Drive

2019-03-05 Thread Stephen P. Molnar



On 03/01/2019 01:56 PM, David Wright wrote:

On Fri 01 Mar 2019 at 08:46:30 (-0500), Stephen P. Molnar wrote:

I am sure that you will castigate men for two things:

1.  Top posting
2.  Not replying to debian-users

However, I wanted to keep my reply private
in the hope of not starting a flame war.

Please see my further comment below.




Thanks for your reply. i think that we are on the same page, now.

I would ask your indulgence for one more request.

Here is my durectiry stucture:

NAME   MAJ:MIN RM   SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINT
sda  8:00 465.8G  0 disk
├─sda1   8:10 457.9G  0 part /
├─sda2   8:20 1K  0 part
└─sda5   8:50   7.9G  0 part [SWAP]
sdb  8:16   0   1.8T  0 disk
├─sdb1   8:17   0   1.8T  0 part 
/media/comp/900b5f0b-4f3d-4a64-8c91-29aee4c6fd07

├─sdb2   8:18   0 1K  0 part
└─sdb5   8:21   0   7.9G  0 part
sdc  8:32   0 465.8G  0 disk
└─sdc1   8:33   0 465.8G  0 part 
/media/comp/1f363165-2c59-4236-850d-36d1e807099e

sr0 11:01  1024M  0 rom

Here is what I have asteh installed fstab:

# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# Use 'blkid' to print the universally unique identifier for a
# device; this may be used with UUID= as a more robust way to name devices
# that works even if disks are added and removed. See fstab(5).
#
#   
# / was on /dev/sda1 during installation
UUID=4dc278b7-1792-4e89-b67e-a517fce97d19 /   ext4 
errors=remount-ro 0   1

# swap was on /dev/sda5 during installation
UUID=acfb9d26-69c6-4489-88fc-12f5c50bda97 noneswap 
sw  0   0

/dev/sr0/media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0

Here is wwhat I'm proposing:

/dev/hda1 / ext4 defaults 0 1
/dev/hda5 none swap sw 0 0
/dev/hdb1 /hdb1 ext4 defaults 0 0
/dev/hdc1 /hdc1 ext4 defaults 0 0

There are two key questions:

1.  Will the boot proceed to completion?
2.  Will users have read/write permission?

Finally, if the answer(s), to either or both, is/are 'no' - what should 
the fstab entries be in order to allow users to Read/Write?


This is rather critical for my continuing good health.  If I crash the 
system and have to reinstall the OS my wife is going to be greatly 
displeased.  I would like to avoid this fate.


Thanks in advance.

Regards,

Steve

--
Stephen P. Molnar, Ph.D.
Consultant
www.molecular-modeling.net
(614)312-7528 (c)
Skype: smolnar1



Re: which package can remember wifi password

2019-03-05 Thread Henning Follmann
On Tue, Mar 05, 2019 at 05:05:34AM +, Long Wind wrote:
> i need a package that can work like cell phone, 
> which can remember wifi passwords and auto connect to available network
> which package can do the job? Thanks!

The NetworkManager will do that.

-- 
Henning Follmann   | hfollm...@itcfollmann.com



Docker and Container Tools Podman/Buildah/Skopeo

2019-03-05 Thread plataleas plataleas
Hi all

RedHat announced with RHEL8 that the docker container engine is replaced by
a suite of tools in the Container Tools module including podman, buildah
and skopeo.
https://access.redhat.com/discussions/3697371

What does the Debian community think of this move? Does it make sense to
prefer podman/buildah/skopeo over the docker engine on Debian systems as
well?

Thanks for your thoughts!
martin


Re: roundcube installer web helper problem

2019-03-05 Thread mick crane

this was solved by user on roundcube list

"In apache, having

Header always set X-Frame-Options DENY

Prevents roundcube from loading preview and settings."

well it solves settings tabs in roundcube not working so I guess it is 
the same with the installer help page which I've not bothered to test as 
it's all working now.


--
Key ID4BFEBB31



Re: No font package for CJK Unified Ideographs Extension B?

2019-03-05 Thread 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson
Thanks! It works!
Now I even see about half of
https://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/block/cjk_unified_ideographs_extension_b/utf8test.htm
too!



Re: Laptop still extremely slow after replacing msata ssd and putting old one back

2019-03-05 Thread hdv@gmail
On 05/03/2019 04.28, Paul Ezvan wrote:
> Le 04/03/2019 à 13:32, deloptes a écrit :
>> double check - I had similar observation when trying to setup USB stick boot
>> for a notebook - it's a company property, so not supposed to do that ;-)
>>
>> Well turned out that I had to modify few bios settings to see the usb
>> working at acceptable speed. First I was thinking the one stick was a
>> problem, but after observing the same with a second one I looked at the
>> bios and it did it.
>>
>> regards
> 
> What does "top" show when your menu takes a long time to load? What is the CPU
> temp? Maybe you accidentaly touched the cooling system while replacing the 
> SSD?

What I forgot to mention (sloppy, sorry for that) is that the slowness already
happens at "grub" time. I presume that rules out trouble with my DE (KDE/Plasma)
or systemd or something like that.

I am thinking hardware trouble too. Not only because the trouble start before
the kernel and DE gets loaded, but also because it happens with two different
SSDs. It happens with the new one with a freshly installed system, and with the
old one that I never had any trouble with before this and that hasn't been
changed (by me that is). In both cases the slowness begins immediately after
boot. Possibly after the BIOS has run, but definitely before the kernel gets
loaded or otherwise during the earliest stages of loading it.

Thanks for the pointer to the cooling. I will check that.

Grx HdV



Re: which package can remember wifi password

2019-03-05 Thread riveravaldez
On 3/5/19, Long Wind  wrote:
> i need a package that can work like cell phone,
> which can remember wifi passwords and auto connect to available network
> which package can do the job? Thanks!

I guess this is what you're looking for: https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse

Regards!