Re: tftp problem

[john doe]

On 6/3/2019 8:39 PM, ghe wrote:
> On 6/3/19 11:48 AM, deloptes wrote:
>
>>> Response, run as root:
>>> atftpd: can't bind port :69/udp
>>>
>>
>> why do you have /udp after the port? Check the config
>
> 1) I don't; atftpd put it there. TFTP is UDP on port 69, isn't it?
>

Because in the command I gave in this thread '--port' option was missing.

$ atftpd --port 2345 --verbose=7 --daemon --no-fork --logfile
/dev/stdout [DIRECTORY]

Port 69 UDP on the server and is also the destination port on the clients.

> 2) What config? The closest thing to a config I could find was
> /etc/default/atftpd. And it looked to me like it was ignoring that.
>

As far as I can tell, there is no config file per say but the init.d
script will use the file '/etc/default/atftp'.

>>> They're just kidding. I think -- I don't know what they mean by 'bind'.

'Bind' means use this adress only.

> When I ran the file as a shell script, it chatted a bit. And most most
> importantly, the daemon started and it started writing into the correct
> directory. I need to see if I can get the s.*d word to do that.
>

's.*d'?

--
John Doe

Re: df shows wrong disk size

[Pascal Hambourg]

Le 03/06/2019 à 19:36, Ross Boylan a écrit :

I just noticed the reported journal size is exactly 1G, which would
account for the difference:
Journal size: 1024M
That's assuming the units are bytes; if they are blocks, it's just a
crazy value.


Sounds interesting. Here on a ~4 GiB ext4 filesystem the journal size is 
between 32 and 128 MiB. You can try to change it with tune2fs.

Re: lightweight wifi UI (Was: Insidious systemd)

[Patrick Bartek]

On Mon, 3 Jun 2019 04:21:18 -0400
Kenneth Parker  wrote:

> I wish to add one thing to this Discussion.  Mention was made, more than
> once, that wicd "might" require Systemd.

It's not wicd that has the systemd dependency, it's one or a few
wicd Recommends that do. Block those from installing and no systemd
reinstall.  But that's all academic now.  I went with another wifi
manager.

> Besides using Debian Stretch on one system (where I am happily learning
> Systemd), I use Devuan Ascii (on an older machine with limited ram).
> 
> This is "official notification" that wicd works fine on Devuan Ascii,
> meaning that, as far as I know, nothing in wicd actually references Systemd.

Re: lightweight wifi UI (Was: Insidious systemd)

[Patrick Bartek]

On Mon, 3 Jun 2019 09:43:36 +0200
didier gaumet  wrote:

> Le 03/06/2019 à 07:23, Patrick Bartek a écrit :
> [...]
> > The install includes lots of choices [...] So, why not
> > init?  
> 
> I think a Debian maintainer had answered in the past something like
> while not using systemd himself, he admitted the perceived percentage of
> Debian anti-systemd users was not so important to justify it, because
> one can relatively easily desinstall systemd and install sysv after install.

That's what they said, yes, among other things.  But when your default
desktop environment GNOME has systemd (or parts of it) as a dependency,
and as time is money, the developers took the path of least
resistance.

No, you can't uninstall all of systemd easily and still have the system
work: too many dependency issues.  You can, however, easily replace
systemd-init with sysvinit while leaving systemd libraries still
installed.  In fact, the process in documented in the install docs
which is what I finally decided to do after lots of research and trial
installs.

Some had suggested I go with Devuan, if I wanted to be free of systemd,
but at the time -- a couple years ago -- Devuan IMHO wasn't ready for
prime time.

> It seems that you do not even need to install systemd (as the init
> system) at all during a fresh install (if you don't install a full blown
> DE)?
>https://wiki.debian.org/systemd#Installing_without_systemd

Now that I look at it, I read that years ago, but all the preseeding
does is install sysvinit after the system install with systemd is
complete. Just as easy to do it manually.  To make as basic a system
as possible, I started with a terminal only install, switched to
sysvinit, and installed only what I needed, component by component.

> [...]
> > I'm not against systemd, per se, just against having it forced on me
> > by way of dependencies. I don't think the init should ever be a
> > dependency. Of anything.  
> [...]
> for a modern DE at least, systemd seems to be a requirement, but not as
> an init system?
>  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systemd#Ancillary_components

Unfortuanately, as all those ancillary components are not
independent but interrelated, you're going to get unexpected
systemd "gotchas" just as I did with wicd.  I solved it by picking
another wifi manager which really has no relations to GNOME or systemd.

B

Re: df shows wrong disk size [SOLVED]

[Ross Boylan]

On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 10:36 AM I wrote:
>
> I just noticed the reported journal size is exactly 1G, which would
> account for the difference:
> Journal size: 1024M
> That's assuming the units are bytes; if they are blocks, it's just a
> crazy value.
>
> I'll see what the extN experts have to say.
> Ross

Ted Ts'o over on https://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-ext4/index.html
(sorry, reply isn't in index yet) confirms that the big log is the
cause of the 3G vs 4G discrepancy, and the big log is a holdover from
the original 4TB size I specified.  There are some additional
suboptimalities from shrinking by a factor of 1000, but  the log size
is the only substantial one.  To reset the journal size he recommended
removing and then recreating the journal, which worked for me.  df now
reports 4G as the volume size, with a corresponding increase in the
free data space.

root@barley:~#tune2fs  -O ^has_journal /dev/vgbarley/cache   # remove journal
tune2fs 1.44.5 (15-Dec-2018)
root@barley:~#date; tune2fs -O has_journal /dev/vgbarley/cache  # turn
it back on
Mon 03 Jun 2019 08:27:37 PM PDT tune2fs 1.44.5 (15-Dec-2018) Creating
journal inode: done
root@barley:~#date; dumpe2fs -h /dev/vgbarley/cache
#
Inode count:  131072
Block count:  1048576
Reserved block count: 52428
Free blocks:  538855 # was 621488 before, but there's  a
lot more on it
Free inodes:  118435
#.
Journal inode: 8
Default directory hash: half_md4
Directory Hash Seed: 24162063-f4a6-4420-b79b-3ad4f9b71ab7
Journal backup: inode blocks
Checksum type: crc32c
Checksum: 0x4557d69e
Journal features: (none)
Journal size: 64M   ###  was 1G
Journal length: 16384
Journal sequence: 0x0001
Journal start: 0
root@barley:~## journal size now 64M instead of 1G!
root@barley:~#date; mount /var/local/cache/
Mon 03 Jun 2019 08:28:59 PM PDT
root@barley:~#df -h !$
df -h /var/local/cache/
Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/mapper/vgbarley-cache 4.0G 1.9G 1.9G 51% /var/local/cache
# only 0.7G in use in my original post; now 1.9G.
# the +1.2G is from real files, not overhead

Thanks to everyone for your help.

Takeaways:
* Don't say 4TB when you mean 4GB! (Duh)
* e2fs tools report (roughly?) the entire device size for block count,
while df only shows the size of the data area, excluding metadata
* Mis-sized journals can be fixed by removal and recreation, at least for ext4.

Ross

Re: openjdk-8-jre for buster

[Roberto C . Sánchez]

On Mon, Jun 03, 2019 at 04:30:17PM -0500, Nicholas Geovanis wrote:
>However, today 3 Jun 2019 we see in [1]tracker.debian.org for openjdk-8
>that 
>"[2019-06-03] Accepted openjdk-8 8u222-b04-1 (source) into experimental"
>and
>"[2019-06-03] Accepted openjdk-8 8u212-b03-2~deb9u1 (source amd64 all)
>into proposed-updates->stable-new, proposed-updates (Moritz Muehlenhoff)
>(signed by: Moritz Mühlenhoff)"
>Does this mean that refitting of openjdk-8 has begun?

No.  See, https://bugs.debian.org/929650

Regards,

-Roberto
-- 
Roberto C. Sánchez

Re: openjdk-8-jre for buster

[Nicholas Geovanis]

However, today 3 Jun 2019 we see in tracker.debian.org for openjdk-8 that
"[2019-06-03] Accepted openjdk-8 8u222-b04-1 (source) into experimental" and
"[2019-06-03] Accepted openjdk-8 8u212-b03-2~deb9u1 (source amd64 all) into
proposed-updates->stable-new, proposed-updates (Moritz Muehlenhoff) (signed
by: Moritz Mühlenhoff)"
Does this mean that refitting of openjdk-8 has begun?

On Sat, Jun 1, 2019 at 12:08 PM Liam O'Toole 
wrote:

> On 2019-05-31, Gian Uberto Lauri  wrote:
> >> "BR" == Brad Rogers  writes:
> >
> >BR> Not from Debian.  See https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/openjdk-8
> >
> >BR> Short version: It's been removed and (to me it looks like) won't
> >BR> be back.
> >
> > Do they run IcedTea against the OpenJDK 11 ?
> >
>
> Java Web Start has been removed from OpenJDK 11, so I doubt it.
>
> --
>
> Liam
>
>

Re: Debian standard installation media packages

[Jacques Toerien]

I do apologise in advance, there may be a double post popping up from me. 

Re: Debian standard installation media packages

[Thomas Schmitt]

Hi,

Jacques Toerien wrote:
> With the standard DVD image, the ‘build-essential’ meta package is not
> included

According to
  
https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/list-dvd/debian-9.9.0-amd64-DVD-1.list.gz
there should be
  build-essential_12.3_amd64.deb

So you would have to be more specific about what DVD image you use
and what software especially is missing.
Are you sure that it is listed as dependency at
  https://packages.debian.org/unstable/build-essential
?

In general, debian-user mailing list is not the right place to request
additions to the content of Debian installation images or advise how to
create own images with added packages.
debian-9.9.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso is a matter of
  debian...@lists.debian.org
debian-live-9.9.0-amd64-xfce.iso would belong to
  debian-l...@lists.debian.org

(Consider to subscribe before you send mail there and to stay subscribed
 as long as the discussion goes on.)


Have a nice day :)

Thomas

Re: OpenGL forwarding via ssh session: works on jessie, does not work on stretch

[Étienne Mollier]

Simon, on 2019-06-02:
> The following test setup:
> (A) linux machine running ubuntu (Nvidia GPU)
> (B) BBB running jessie
> (C) BBB running stretch
>
> I connect from (A) -> (*) by ssh -X x@host
>
> When I connect from (A) to (B):
> > export LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT=1;  glxinfo|head
> name of display: localhost:10.0
> display: localhost:10  screen: 0
> direct rendering: No (LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT set)
> server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
> server glx version string: 1.4
> server glx extensions:
>
> When I connect from (A) to (C):
> > export LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT=1;  glxinfo|head
> Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual or fbconfig
> name of display: localhost:10.0

Good Day Simon,

At first I was thinking that could have to do with remote GLX
support of your X server, which requires to be explicitly
enabled on Debian Stretch using Xorg option +iglx for instance.
However, your setup and your symptoms do not match this
situation.  I vaguely recall having seen this "couldn't find RGB
GLX visual" message a couple of times when working on hardware
accelerated remote direct rendering though, but can't recall the
exact situation.


Here is an attempt to reproduce your issue, except that my setup
is:
(A) Amd running Sid
(C) Eeepc running Stretch

If I start X on (A) without "+iglx", then ssh -X to (C), I get:

$ glxinfo | grep '^direct rendering:'
direct rendering: Yes

$ LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT=1 glxinfo | grep '^direct rendering:'
X Error of failed request:  GLXBadContext
  Major opcode of failed request:  152 (GLX)
  Minor opcode of failed request:  6 (X_GLXIsDirect)
  Serial number of failed request:  34
  Current serial number in output stream:  33

$ glxdemo
/* Redrawing the window is clunky. */

$ glxgears
50 frames in 5.1 seconds =  9.875 FPS

If I start X on (A) with "+iglx", then ssh -X to (C), I get:

$ glxinfo | grep '^direct rendering:'
direct rendering: Yes

$ LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT=1 glxinfo | grep '^direct rendering:'
direct rendering: No (LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT set)

$ glxdemo
/* Redrawing the window is clunky. */

$ LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT=1 glxdemo
/* Redrawing the window is smooth. */

$ glxgears
35 frames in 5.0 seconds =  6.953 FPS

$ LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT=1 glxgears
/* Can't get performances output because my X server...
 * erm...
 * dies instantly of a segmentation violation.
 */

Anyway, error messages are not the same as yours, so there may
be something else in play in your setup that might have been
missed.  For instance my architecture was different from yours,
the X server is run on Debian instead of Ubuntu, the graphic
card is an Amd instead of an Nvidia, etc.

Perhaps someone else with a better knowledge of X internals
might pop-up with better insights.

Kind Regards,
-- 
Étienne Mollier 


Off-topic, for the curious mind, the Xorg log says:

Backtrace:
0: /usr/lib/xorg/Xorg (OsLookupColor+0x139) [0x55a034a102c9]
1: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0 (funlockfile+0x50) 
[0x7fa380c9b77f]
2: /usr/lib/xorg/Xorg (ResetCurrentRequest+0xb) [0x55a034a0f34b]
3: /usr/lib/xorg/Xorg (DRI2WaitSwap+0x56) [0x55a0349dc766]
unw_get_proc_name failed: no unwind info found [-10]
4: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so (?+0x0) [0x7fa3803e1a50]
unw_get_proc_name failed: no unwind info found [-10]
5: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so (?+0x0) [0x7fa3803da040]
unw_get_proc_name failed: no unwind info found [-10]
6: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so (?+0x0) [0x7fa3803d5ff0]
7: /usr/lib/xorg/Xorg (dri3_send_open_reply+0xe0a) [0x55a0349e112a]
8: /usr/lib/xorg/Xorg (_CallCallbacks+0x34) [0x55a0348b6c24]
9: /usr/lib/xorg/Xorg (CloseDownClient+0x5f) [0x55a0348b0d0f]
10: /usr/lib/xorg/Xorg (SendErrorToClient+0x39b) [0x55a0348b1a0b]
11: /usr/lib/xorg/Xorg (InitFonts+0x3b6) [0x55a0348b5956]
12: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 (__libc_start_main+0xeb) 
[0x7fa380aea09b]
13: /usr/lib/xorg/Xorg (_start+0x2a) [0x55a03489f67a]

Segmentation fault at address 0x8

Not sure if I should open a bug about this; I'm running a kernel
with a custom enough config to wonder if the issue came from the
thing between the chair and the keyboard in the first place.

Debian 'build-essential' on installation media.

[Jacques Toerien]

Hello,

I have several machines that require a standard build environment after 
installation in order to build device drivers, such as NIC and WIFI drivers. 
These drivers or modules are not included in the free/non-free images (eg. 
Broadcom) or included as kernel modules, I currently have the source  for these 
saved on a USB stick. 

With the standard DVD image, the ‘build-essential’ meta package is not included 
with the default install and relies on an internet connection to install the 
packages required to build drivers. If one does not have access to a wired 
network and you cannot build wifi drivers with the base install media, then you 
have no way of downloading the build-essential package. In short - If you rely 
on the ‘build-essential’ meta package to build your NIC/WIFI drivers then you 
will never get on the internet with the packages included on the standard 
install images. There is no way to build drivers without an internet connection.

Would it be possible to include the 'build-essential’ meta package (along with 
dkms) on the standard DVD installation image, or have a spin of the image with 
the build tools included. This is quite common on other distributions, such as 
Centos and Fedora and I cannot understand how this meta package has been 
omitted from the standard install media. 

Regards and with thanks,

Jacques

Debian standard installation media packages

[Jacques Toerien]

Hello,

I have several machines that require a standard build environment after 
installation in order to build device drivers, such as NIC and WIFI drivers. 
These drivers or modules are not included in the free/non-free images (eg. 
Broadcom), I currently have the source codes for these saved on a USB stick. 
With the standard DVD image, the ‘build-essential’ meta package is not included 
and relies on an internet connection to install the packages required to build 
drivers. 

If one does not have access to a wired network and you cannot build wifi 
drivers with the base install media, then you have no way of downloading the 
build-essential package. 

Would it be possible to include the 'build-essential’ meta package (along with 
dkms) on the standard DVD installation image, or have a spin of the image with 
the build tools included. This is quite common on other distributions, such as 
Centos and Fedora and I cannot understand how this meta package has been 
omitted from the standard install media. 

Regards and with thanks,

Jacques

Re: paste.debian.net discontinued ?

[Andrew McGlashan]

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On 3/6/19 7:40 pm, Jérôme BATAILLE wrote:
> Hi dear debian users.
> 
> Does someone knows if paste.debian.net is discontinued ?

It's back so it must have been a temp issue.

Cheers
A.
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Re: tftp problem

[ghe]

On 6/3/19 11:48 AM, deloptes wrote:

>> Response, run as root:
>> atftpd: can't bind port :69/udp
>>
> 
> why do you have /udp after the port? Check the config

1) I don't; atftpd put it there. TFTP is UDP on port 69, isn't it?

2) What config? The closest thing to a config I could find was
/etc/default/atftpd. And it looked to me like it was ignoring that.

>> They're just kidding. I think -- I don't know what they mean by 'bind'.
>> I've saved configs over tftp from my Juniper firewall and my Cisco router.
> 
> This usually means that the process can start listening on that port

But if it means it can start listening, why say anything about it? They
didn't tell me the sky is blue.

And why not say any more? I was hoping for some useful info about what
was wrong.


I went into the startup script in init.d, hung a '.sh' on the filename,
added some debugging echo statements, and commented out what I suspected
was be making the script not print any of the echos.

When I ran the file as a shell script, it chatted a bit. And most most
importantly, the daemon started and it started writing into the correct
directory. I need to see if I can get the s.*d word to do that.

Thanks folks. You've given me info on a direction to go with this.

-- 
Glenn English

Re: use mailx instead of sendmail in apt-listchanges

[Andrew McGlashan]

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Hi,

On 3/6/19 5:40 am, Martin T wrote:
> What could be the most elegant workaround in this situation? Create
> a /usr/sbin/sendmail wrapper script which processes the 
> "/usr/sbin/sendmail -oi -t" command called by apt_listchanges.py
> and sends the mail using mailx? Modify the apt_listchanges.py?
> Something else?

This is what I use on Devuan (and Debian previously):

# aptitude show bsd-mailx;echo;dpkg -L bsd-mailx;ls -lart
/etc/alternatives/mailx
Tue  4 Jun 04:27:41 AEST 2019 -- show bsd-mailx
Package: bsd-mailx
Version: 8.1.2-0.20160123cvs-4
State: installed
Automatically installed: no
Priority: optional
Section: mail
Maintainer: Robert Luberda 
Architecture: amd64
Uncompressed Size: 169 k
Depends: base-files (>= 2.2.0), default-mta | mail-transport-agent,
libbsd0 (>= 0.2.0), libc6 (>= 2.17), liblockfile1 (>= 1.0)
Provides: mail-reader, mailx
Description: simple mail user agent

Tags: implemented-in::c, interface::commandline, mail::smtp,
mail::user-agent, network::client, protocol::smtp, role::program,
suite::bsd, works-with::mail


/.
/etc
/etc/mail.rc
/usr
/usr/bin
/usr/bin/bsd-mailx
/usr/share
/usr/share/bsd-mailx
/usr/share/bsd-mailx/mail.help
/usr/share/bsd-mailx/mail.tildehelp
/usr/share/doc
/usr/share/doc/bsd-mailx
/usr/share/doc/bsd-mailx/NEWS.Debian.gz
/usr/share/doc/bsd-mailx/README.Debian.gz
/usr/share/doc/bsd-mailx/changelog.Debian.gz
/usr/share/doc/bsd-mailx/changelog.gz
/usr/share/doc/bsd-mailx/copyright
/usr/share/man
/usr/share/man/man1
/usr/share/man/man1/bsd-mailx.1.gz
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 18 May 15 10:52 /etc/alternatives/mailx ->
/usr/bin/bsd-mailx


Cheers
AndrewM
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Re: tftp problem

[deloptes]

ghe wrote:

> Response, run as root:
> atftpd: can't bind port :69/udp
> 

why do you have /udp after the port? Check the config

> They're just kidding. I think -- I don't know what they mean by 'bind'.
> I've saved configs over tftp from my Juniper firewall and my Cisco router.

This usually means that the process can start listening on that port

Re: df shows wrong disk size

[Ross Boylan]

I just noticed the reported journal size is exactly 1G, which would
account for the difference:
Journal size: 1024M
That's assuming the units are bytes; if they are blocks, it's just a
crazy value.

I'll see what the extN experts have to say.
Ross

Re: SDDM : Et après ?

[hamster]

Le 03/06/2019 à 18:17, didier gaumet a écrit :
> Le 03/06/2019 à 17:04, hamster a écrit :
>
>> J'utilisais sans le savoir GDM a l'époque ou je tournais sous ubuntu.
>> Mais le bureau gnome de l'époque n'existe plus, je suis donc passé a
>> debian/MATE et le gestionnaire de connexion livré avec est lightdm.
> [...]
>
> tu peux installer plusieurs DM, Debian te demandera lors de
> l'installation celui que tu veux utiliser par défaut (tu peux refaire ce
> choix quand tu veux avec dpkg-reconfigure le-DM-que -tu-veux reparamétrer.
>
> Donc à priori tu peux utiliser gdm avec Mate...

Oui, mais la nouvelle version de gdm (gdm3) est tout aussi limitée et
difficile a configurer que lightdm. Du moins a l'époque ou je l'avais
essayée. J'avais aussi essayé de re-installer la vieille version de gdm
mais c'était pas une bonne idée.

Re: SDDM : Et après ?

[didier gaumet]

Le 03/06/2019 à 15:37, kaliderus a écrit :
[...]
> Je n'aime pas devoir faire défiler l'ensemble des comptes
> utilisateurs, pour me connecter sous un autre utilisateur.
> Je n'aime pas ne pas pouvoir cacher le nombre de "bulles" quand je
> tape un mot de passe.
[...]

- tu peux cacher les utilisateurs que tu ne veux pas voir apparaître
dans la liste avec l'option HideUsers:
 https://jlk.fjfi.cvut.cz/arch/manpages/man/sddm.conf.5

- pour les "bulles", je n'ai pas l'impression que ce soit possible

Re: SDDM : Et après ?

[didier gaumet]

Le 03/06/2019 à 17:04, hamster a écrit :

> J'utilisais sans le savoir GDM a l'époque ou je tournais sous ubuntu.
> Mais le bureau gnome de l'époque n'existe plus, je suis donc passé a
> debian/MATE et le gestionnaire de connexion livré avec est lightdm.
[...]

tu peux installer plusieurs DM, Debian te demandera lors de
l'installation celui que tu veux utiliser par défaut (tu peux refaire ce
choix quand tu veux avec dpkg-reconfigure le-DM-que -tu-veux reparamétrer.

Donc à priori tu peux utiliser gdm avec Mate...

Alfresco 6.1 sur Debian/testing

[BERTRAND Joël]

Bonsoir à tous,

J'espère qu'il y a par ici des gens qui utilisent Alfresco... Cet outil
est puissant, mais qu'est-ce que son installation est merdouillique.

Bref. L'an passé, j'ai réussi à installer Alfresco CE 6.0 sur un tomcat
8.5. Ça tournait raisonnablement bien. On m'a demandé de passer à la
version 6.1 avant une montée en charge. Vue l'expérience de
l'installation que j'avais, j'ai donc fait une sauvegarde de la base de
donnée (PostgreSQL 10) et du système de fichiers d'Alfesco. J'ai suivi
_scrupuleusement_ la doc de mise à jour. Naturellement, ça ne fonctionne
pas.

Tomcat se lance, java mouline, dans les logs de tomcat, je vois au bout
d'une grosse minute que alfresco et share (les deux servlets en
question) sont lancés. Mais lorsque je tente une connexion sur
:8080, ça mouline et ça termine sur un timeout.

Je viens de passer deux jours à essayer de comprendre ce qui coince. Je
n'ai rien d'étrange dans les logs. Je suis donc reparti d'une table rase :
- tomcat 9 (avec solr)
- java 11 (openjdk version "11.0.3" 2019-04-16)
- PostgreSQL 11
- alfresco CE 6.1

J'ai donc effectué une installation et non une mise à jour. Le résultat
est _strictement_ le même. Timeout de connexion. Pourtant les différents
fichiers war sont déployés correctement, je n'ai aucune erreur dans les
logs :

[2019-06-03 17:56:52] [info] juin 03, 2019 5:56:52 PM
org.artofsolving.jodconverter.office.OfficeConnection connect
[2019-06-03 17:56:52] [info] INFOS: connected:
'socket,host=127.0.0.1,port=2022,tcpNoDelay=1'
[2019-06-03 17:56:52] [info] 2019-06-03 17:56:52,915  INFO
[management.subsystems.ChildApplicationContextFactory] [main] Startup of
'OOoJodconverter' subsystem, ID: [OOoJodconverter, default] complete
[2019-06-03 17:56:52] [info]  2019-06-03 17:56:52,917  INFO
[repo.admin.ConfigurationChecker] [main] The root data directory
('dir.root') is: /opt/alfresco-data
[2019-06-03 17:56:52] [info]  2019-06-03 17:56:52,937  INFO
[admin.patch.PatchExecuter] [main] Checking for patches to apply ...
[2019-06-03 17:56:53] [info]  2019-06-03 17:56:53,136  INFO
[admin.patch.PatchExecuter] [main] No patches were required.
[2019-06-03 17:56:53] [info]  2019-06-03 17:56:53,150  INFO
[repo.module.ModuleServiceImpl] [main] Found 4 module package(s).
[2019-06-03 17:56:53] [info]  2019-06-03 17:56:53,198  INFO
[repo.module.ModuleServiceImpl] [main] Starting module
'de.fme.alfresco.JavascriptConsole-share' version 0.6.1604291213.
[2019-06-03 17:56:53] [info]  2019-06-03 17:56:53,241  INFO
[repo.module.ModuleServiceImpl] [main] Starting module
'de.fme.alfresco.JavascriptConsole-repo' version 0.6.1604291213.
[2019-06-03 17:56:53] [info]  2019-06-03 17:56:53,282  INFO
[repo.module.ModuleServiceImpl] [main] Starting module
'alfresco-share-services' version 6.1.0.
[2019-06-03 17:56:53] [info]  2019-06-03 17:56:53,322  INFO
[repo.module.ModuleServiceImpl] [main] Starting module
'alfresco-trashcan-cleaner' version 2.3.
[2019-06-03 17:56:53] [info]  2019-06-03 17:56:53,342  INFO
[management.subsystems.ChildApplicationContextFactory] [main] Starting
'fileServers' subsystem, ID: [fileServers, default]
[2019-06-03 17:56:53] [info]  2019-06-03 17:56:53,693  INFO
[management.subsystems.ChildApplicationContextFactory] [main] Startup of
'fileServers' subsystem, ID: [fileServers, default] complete
[2019-06-03 17:56:53] [info]  2019-06-03 17:56:53,693  INFO
[management.subsystems.ChildApplicationContextFactory] [main] Starting
'imap' subsystem, ID: [imap, default]
[2019-06-03 17:56:53] [info]  2019-06-03 17:56:53,761  INFO
[management.subsystems.ChildApplicationContextFactory] [main] Startup of
'imap' subsystem, ID: [imap, default] complete
[2019-06-03 17:56:53] [info]  2019-06-03 17:56:53,761  INFO
[management.subsystems.ChildApplicationContextFactory] [main] Starting
'email' subsystem, ID: [email, outbound]
[2019-06-03 17:56:53] [info]  2019-06-03 17:56:53,951  INFO
[management.subsystems.ChildApplicationContextFactory] [main] Startup of
'email' subsystem, ID: [email, outbound] complete
[2019-06-03 17:56:53] [info]  2019-06-03 17:56:53,951  INFO
[management.subsystems.ChildApplicationContextFactory] [main] Starting
'email' subsystem, ID: [email, inbound]
[2019-06-03 17:56:53] [info]  2019-06-03 17:56:53,989  INFO
[management.subsystems.ChildApplicationContextFactory] [main] Startup of
'email' subsystem, ID: [email, inbound] complete
[2019-06-03 17:56:53] [info]  2019-06-03 17:56:53,989  INFO
[management.subsystems.ChildApplicationContextFactory] [main] Starting
'Subscriptions' subsystem, ID: [Subscriptions, default]
[2019-06-03 17:56:54] [info]  2019-06-03 17:56:54,003  INFO
[management.subsystems.ChildApplicationContextFactory] [main] Startup of
'Subscriptions' subsystem, ID: [Subscriptions, default] complete
[2019-06-03 17:56:54] [info]  2019-06-03 17:56:54,670  INFO
[management.subsystems.ChildApplicationContextFactory] [main] Starting
'Synchronization' subsystem, ID: [Synchronization, default]
[2019-06-03 

Re: df shows wrong disk size

[Ross Boylan]

# ls -l /dev/mapper/vgbarley-cache /dev/vgbarley/cache
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 8 Jun  1 17:26 /dev/mapper/vgbarley-cache -> ../dm-19
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 8 Jun  1 17:26 /dev/vgbarley/cache -> ../dm-19

On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 2:32 AM Henning Follmann
 wrote:

>
> You cheat ;)
> please show that
>
> /dev/mapper/vgbarley-cache == /dev/vgbarley/cache

# ls -l /dev/mapper/vgbarley-cache /dev/vgbarley/cache
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 8 Jun  1 17:26 /dev/mapper/vgbarley-cache -> ../dm-19
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 8 Jun  1 17:26 /dev/vgbarley/cache -> ../dm-19

Re: what does trade war mean for chinese linux user?

[Jude DaShiell]

Very likely zero impact.

On Mon, 3 Jun 2019, Long Wind wrote:

> Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2019 07:04:57
> From: Long Wind 
> To: Debian-user List Debian 
> Subject: what does trade war mean for chinese linux user?
> Resent-Date: Mon,  3 Jun 2019 11:05:58 + (UTC)
> Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>
> trade war between china and usa is escalating
> an early debian distro has flavor for non-us users, because of us export 
> restriction? how does usa enforce the law on Internet?
> it's not easy for me to use mail and i may not respond timely

-- 

Re: tftp problem

[ghe]

On 6/3/19 8:08 AM, john doe wrote:

> atftpd --verbose=7 --daemon --no-fork --logfile /dev/stdout

Response, run as root:
atftpd: can't bind port :69/udp

They're just kidding. I think -- I don't know what they mean by 'bind'.
I've saved configs over tftp from my Juniper firewall and my Cisco router.


Juniper a few minutes ago (small file; just beginning to get it going):

>  Save configurations (5213 bytes) to SSG140Config.txt on TFTP server
192.168.2.3 from ethernet0/7.
> 
> tftp transferred records = 11
> tftp success!
>
> TFTP Succeeded

ghe@sbox:~$ ls -lh /tftpboot/ | egrep SSG
-rw-rw-rw- 1 nobody nogroup 5.1K Jun  3 08:48 SSG140Config.txt


Cisco (bigger file; my border router):

> 
> 12386 bytes copied in 0.584 secs (21209 bytes/sec)

(Cisco makes '.'s instead of '!'s on failure.)

ghe@sbox:~$ ls -lh /tftpboot/ | egrep Run
-rw-rw-rw- 1 nobody nogroup  13K Jun  3 08:51 brouterRunningConfig.txt


Those two have been known to be picky. And, as far as I know, there's no
way to get them to use anything but port 69.

I've also tftp'ed files locally, using atftp.

...

> Also, is your " [directory] must be a world readable/writable
directories."?

ghe@sbox:~$ ls -lh / | egrep tftp
drwxrwxrwx   2 nobody root4.0K Jun  2 16:00 tftpboot

...

> drwxr-xr-x 2 nobody root 4096 /srv/tftp

Right now, /srv/tftp is a link to /tftpboot, so it's 777:

ghe@sbox:~$ ls -lh /srv | egrep tftp
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  10 May 31 13:04 tftp -> /tftpboot/

It's owned by root, but it was nobody's when it was a dir (worked just
fine then, anyway). And there seems to be no problem with the link being
owned by root.

-- 
Glenn English

Re: SDDM : Et après ?

[hamster]

Le 03/06/2019 à 15:37, kaliderus a écrit :
> Bonjour,
>
> Jusqu'à présent j'étais plutôt adepte de KDE et de KDM qui allait bien avec.
> Sauf que ce dernier n'est plus, et on se retrouve avec "SDDM", qui ne
> me plait pas (mais alors vraiment pas).
> Pourquoi ?
> Je n'aime pas devoir faire défiler l'ensemble des comptes
> utilisateurs, pour me connecter sous un autre utilisateur.
> Je n'aime pas ne pas pouvoir cacher le nombre de "bulles" quand je
> tape un mot de passe.
> Je me demande ce qu'il y a de configurable dans cet outil ... et le
> recompiler ne m'enchante guère ...
>
> Bref, je voudrai en changer, mais je me demande par quoi ?
>
> Et de votre côté, quel est votre gestionnaire de connexion préféré ?

J'utilisais sans le savoir GDM a l'époque ou je tournais sous ubuntu.
Mais le bureau gnome de l'époque n'existe plus, je suis donc passé a
debian/MATE et le gestionnaire de connexion livré avec est lightdm. Ce
n'est pas du tout mon préféré, pour des raisons similaires aux tiennes
et aussi parce qu'il ne se configure qu'en éditant un fichier texte en
root. Mais faute de trouver mieux, j'ai du m'en contenter. J'ai trouvé
qu'il y a eu une grosse récession sur ce point, il y a quelques années.

Le fait qu'un utilisateur non rompu a la ligne de commande ou au jargon
anglophone des fichiers de configuration ne puisse pas (des)activer la
connexion par défaut, ou régler son delai, ou masquer la liste des
comptes ou autres fonctions de ce genre en cliquant avec la souris,
comme c'était le cas du temps de gdm ancienne version, je trouve que
c'est assez inacceptable pour un système qui se veut "tous publics".

Re: what does trade war mean for chinese linux user?

[John Hasler]

Long Wind writes:
> trade war between china and usa is escalating
> an early debian distro has flavor for non-us users, because of us
> export restriction?

Non-us was not a crippled version of Debian for non-us users.  It was a
Debian repository located outside the USA for all Debian packages
containing strong encryption (and for a while packages that infringed
USA software patents).  It was used by USA residents and non-USA
residents alike.  Strong encryption has always been legal here but the
government claimed for a while that it was illegal to export Free
Software implementing it without a license (this claim was eventually
shot down by the courts). It was simpler for Debian to put all strong
encryption outside the USA than to figure out how to limit distribution
to the USA.

> how does usa enforce the law on Internet?

It doesn't.  It enforces USA law inside the USA, and its powers over
the Internet here are weak.  
-- 
John Hasler 
jhas...@newsguy.com
Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Using ISO image of installer DVD as repository - How?

[Brian]

On Mon 03 Jun 2019 at 09:03:56 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:

> On 06/03/2019 07:33 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > On Sun, Jun 02, 2019 at 01:00:36PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> > > The OP's declared motivation is "self-education" and what is wanted is
> > > that it "should just work".
> > 
> > These seem like contradictory statements.  If everything works out of the
> > box, he won't learn as much as he would if he has to fix them.
> > 
> 
> *ROFL*
> "should just work" == "should just work in the way I expect" ;/

You expected

 deb file:///home/richard/dvdmount stretch main contrib trusted=yes

and all the varients you tried to just work. There's a lesson there
for someone.

-- 
Brian.

Re: problemas en envio d ecorreo

[Gonzalo Rivero]

El lun, 03-06-2019 a las 10:46 -0400, l...@ida.cu escribió:
> Buenos días a todos
> 
> Tengo un problema con el envio de correos a los servidores de mail de
> yahoo y google
> 
> Me da esto:
> -
> 
> This is the mail system at host leia.ida.cu.
> 
> I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not
> be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below.
> 
> For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster.
> 
> If you do so, please include this problem report. You can
> delete your own text from the attached returned message.
> 
>The mail system
> 
> : host gmail-smtp-
> in.l.google.com[74.125.141.26]
> said:
> 550-5.7.1 [200.55.141.3  19] Our system has detected that
> this
> message
> is 550-5.7.1 likely suspicious due to the very low reputation of
> the
> sending 550-5.7.1 domain. To best protect our users from spam,
> the
> message
> has been 550-5.7.1 blocked. Please visit 550 5.7.1
> https://support.google.com/mail/answer/188131 for more
> information.
> b3si1078410uab.179 - gsmtp (in reply to end of DATA command)
> 
> Esto es nuevo me comenzo a suceder el viernes 31 de mayo en la tarde
> 
> -
> 
> 
> Alguna idea ?
> 
te bloquearon por enviar spam. Fijate que dicen en 
https://support.google.com/mail/answer/188131
y también en mxtoolbox.com podés encontrar en que otras listas negras
estás

Re: lightweight wifi UI (Was: Insidious systemd)

[tomas]

On Mon, Jun 03, 2019 at 10:17:00AM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote:
> Greg Wooledge wrote: 

[...]

> > Now, open your eyes.  The real goal of these zealots [...]

> Thanks for announcing that people who care what init system they
> are running are zealots [...]

Folks. Can we just get along?

To the one side: if we want something to happen (e.g. keeping
SysV init viable), it's on us to help making it. To the other
side: "you don't exist" has been one of the most offending
insults in this unfortunate spat.

Please stop it.

Thanks


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Re: tftp problem

[john doe]

On 6/3/2019 4:08 PM, john doe wrote:
> On 6/3/2019 3:24 PM, ghe wrote:
>> On 6/2/19 11:46 PM, john doe wrote:
>>
>>> I assume that you have restarted the service?
>>
>> Yup. Several times on multiple computers. No joy.
>>
>> I haven't, though, tried starting with the options added by hand...
>>
>
> $ atftpd --verbose=7 --daemon --no-fork --logfile /dev/stdout
>
> Should hopefully help you figure out what's going on.
>

Also, is your " [directory] must be a world readable/writable directories."?


Just after installing 'atftpd":

drwxr-xr-x 2 nobody root 4096 /srv/tftp

--
John Doe

problemas en envio d ecorreo

[luis]

Buenos días a todos

Tengo un problema con el envio de correos a los servidores de mail de
yahoo y google

Me da esto:
-

This is the mail system at host leia.ida.cu.

I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not
be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below.

For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster.

If you do so, please include this problem report. You can
delete your own text from the attached returned message.

   The mail system

: host gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[74.125.141.26]
said:
550-5.7.1 [200.55.141.3  19] Our system has detected that this
message
is 550-5.7.1 likely suspicious due to the very low reputation of the
sending 550-5.7.1 domain. To best protect our users from spam, the
message
has been 550-5.7.1 blocked. Please visit 550 5.7.1
https://support.google.com/mail/answer/188131 for more information.
b3si1078410uab.179 - gsmtp (in reply to end of DATA command)

Esto es nuevo me comenzo a suceder el viernes 31 de mayo en la tarde

-


Alguna idea ?

Re: lightweight wifi UI (Was: Insidious systemd)

[Dan Ritter]

Greg Wooledge wrote: 
> On Mon, Jun 03, 2019 at 09:11:37AM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote:
> > Greg Wooledge wrote: 
> > > Almost nobody cares about init systems.
> > > 
> > > Yes, you and your 3 friends care DEEPLY and PASSIONATELY about this.  I
> > > get that.  But there's only 4 of you, not 4000.
> > 
> > Greg --
> > 
> > is that the sort of argument you feel proud to be making?
> 
> Yes.  I do not believe Debian should bend over backward, spending many
> hours of development time, to appease a handful of zealots who can
> achieve their personal goals with three minutes of work.
> 
> If someone strongly disagrees with this, they can create their own
> personalized installer, or they can switch to Devuan.
> 
> Now, open your eyes.  The real goal of these zealots is not to save
> three minutes of work when they install.  It is to shove their political
> agenda into the spotlight.

Thanks for announcing that people who care what init system they
are running are zealots. I had thought that I was a professional
with a valid technical point of view, but my eyes are now open.
I realize that no objection I can possibly make is worthwhile.

Perhaps I too will start making arguments that people should stop
complaining about things because they are not in the majority.

Presumably I was also wrong about politics being the alternative
to war. That can only happen when people respect each other.

-dsr-

Perdida de conexion de red

[Antonio Rello]

Hola

Tengo un debian 9 recien instalado con SSH como servicio activo, mi
problema es que de buenas a primeras pierdo la conexion de red, dejo
de tener conexion, desde la propia maquina no puede hacer ping a
ningun otro equipo de la red, ahora en cuanto pongo un ping a
cualquier equipo me pierde los 5 primeros paquetes pero luego ya me
responde y todo vuelve a funcionar. Es como si entrara en modo ahorro
de energia la tarjeta.

La maquina es una maquina virtual, con ip fija (No tiene DHCP).

Alguna idea de que es lo que puede pasar???

Muchas gracias

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Re: what does trade war mean for chinese linux user?

[Nicholas Geovanis]

On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 6:52 AM Roberto C. Sánchez 
wrote:

> On Mon, Jun 03, 2019 at 06:43:35AM -0500, Nicholas Geovanis wrote:
> >We can see that the US government is more interested in surveillance
> and
> >propaganda on the internet than anything else.
>
> Which makes them like every other government in that regard?  Meet the
> new boss, same as the old boss.
>

I wasn't comparing regimes. Only comparing the current version of this
regime
with the previous versions. Detailed knowledge of their own populations has
become more important to them over time. I know why ;-)


> Roberto C. Sánchez
>
>

Re: tftp problem

[john doe]

On 6/3/2019 3:24 PM, ghe wrote:
> On 6/2/19 11:46 PM, john doe wrote:
>
>> I assume that you have restarted the service?
>
> Yup. Several times on multiple computers. No joy.
>
> I haven't, though, tried starting with the options added by hand...
>

$ atftpd --verbose=7 --daemon --no-fork --logfile /dev/stdout

Should hopefully help you figure out what's going on.

--
John Doe

Re: Using ISO image of installer DVD as repository - How?

[Richard Owlett]

On 06/03/2019 07:33 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote:

On Sun, Jun 02, 2019 at 01:00:36PM +0100, Brian wrote:

The OP's declared motivation is "self-education" and what is wanted is
that it "should just work".


These seem like contradictory statements.  If everything works out of the
box, he won't learn as much as he would if he has to fix them.



*ROFL*
"should just work" == "should just work in the way I expect" ;/

Re: lightweight wifi UI (Was: Insidious systemd)

[Greg Wooledge]

On Mon, Jun 03, 2019 at 09:11:37AM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote:
> Greg Wooledge wrote: 
> > Almost nobody cares about init systems.
> > 
> > Yes, you and your 3 friends care DEEPLY and PASSIONATELY about this.  I
> > get that.  But there's only 4 of you, not 4000.
> 
> Greg --
> 
> is that the sort of argument you feel proud to be making?

Yes.  I do not believe Debian should bend over backward, spending many
hours of development time, to appease a handful of zealots who can
achieve their personal goals with three minutes of work.

If someone strongly disagrees with this, they can create their own
personalized installer, or they can switch to Devuan.

Now, open your eyes.  The real goal of these zealots is not to save
three minutes of work when they install.  It is to shove their political
agenda into the spotlight.

Re: SDDM : Et après ?

[Nicolas Patrois]

Le lun. 3 juin 2019 à 15:38, kaliderus  a écrit :

> Bonjour,

> Bref, je voudrai en changer, mais je me demande par quoi ?
> Et de votre côté, quel est votre gestionnaire de connexion préféré ?

J'utilise wdm depuis que gdm3 plante chez moi, c'est-à-dire depuis un moment.
Il est basique mais fait le boulot.

n.
-- 
En science, ce qui est démontrable ne doit pas être admis sans démonstration.
-+- Richard Dedekind -+-

SDDM : Et après ?

[kaliderus]

Bonjour,

Jusqu'à présent j'étais plutôt adepte de KDE et de KDM qui allait bien avec.
Sauf que ce dernier n'est plus, et on se retrouve avec "SDDM", qui ne
me plait pas (mais alors vraiment pas).
Pourquoi ?
Je n'aime pas devoir faire défiler l'ensemble des comptes
utilisateurs, pour me connecter sous un autre utilisateur.
Je n'aime pas ne pas pouvoir cacher le nombre de "bulles" quand je
tape un mot de passe.
Je me demande ce qu'il y a de configurable dans cet outil ... et le
recompiler ne m'enchante guère ...

Bref, je voudrai en changer, mais je me demande par quoi ?

Et de votre côté, quel est votre gestionnaire de connexion préféré ?

Liberté, quand tu m'interroge ...
A+

Re: lightweight wifi UI (Was: Insidious systemd)

[Dan Ritter]

Greg Wooledge wrote: 
> On Sun, Jun 02, 2019 at 10:23:25PM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> > The install includes lots of choices like print server, server or
> > desktop system, GUI, laptop utilities, etc. that are "bloat-worthy" and
> > can be installed after the main install has completed.  I know.  I used
> > to do it back in the day. I still do to a certain extent even today.
> > But now those choices are an integral part of the install.  So, why not
> > init?
> 
> Because a non-negligible number of people care about Desktop Environments,
> and Print Servers, and SSH Servers.
> 
> Almost nobody cares about init systems.
> 
> Yes, you and your 3 friends care DEEPLY and PASSIONATELY about this.  I
> get that.  But there's only 4 of you, not 4000.

Greg --

is that the sort of argument you feel proud to be making?

-dsr-

Re: tftp problem

[ghe]

On 6/2/19 11:46 PM, john doe wrote:

> I assume that you have restarted the service?

Yup. Several times on multiple computers. No joy.

I haven't, though, tried starting with the options added by hand...

-- 
Glenn English

Re: lightweight wifi UI (Was: Insidious systemd)

[Greg Wooledge]

On Sun, Jun 02, 2019 at 10:23:25PM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> The install includes lots of choices like print server, server or
> desktop system, GUI, laptop utilities, etc. that are "bloat-worthy" and
> can be installed after the main install has completed.  I know.  I used
> to do it back in the day. I still do to a certain extent even today.
> But now those choices are an integral part of the install.  So, why not
> init?

Because a non-negligible number of people care about Desktop Environments,
and Print Servers, and SSH Servers.

Almost nobody cares about init systems.

Yes, you and your 3 friends care DEEPLY and PASSIONATELY about this.  I
get that.  But there's only 4 of you, not 4000.

Re: Using ISO image of installer DVD as repository - How?

[Greg Wooledge]

On Sun, Jun 02, 2019 at 01:00:36PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> The OP's declared motivation is "self-education" and what is wanted is
> that it "should just work".

These seem like contradictory statements.  If everything works out of the
box, he won't learn as much as he would if he has to fix them.

Re: tls

[Alex Muntada]

Hola Jordi,

> Faig servir el debian Stretch actualitzat i l'Evolution 3.22.6.
> 
> sslscan localhost: (port ssh)

L'evolution no fa servir la libssl sinó la libnss3, així que
dubto molt que el resultat del sslscan sigui rellevant, perquè
si ho he entès bé mira la versió que publica el port corresponent
(ssh utilitza libssl, https també libssl, etc.).

Has provat què diu sslscan contra el port imaps del proveïdor?

Una forma d'esbrinar què negocien seria esnifant la connexió imaps
cap al teu proveïdor amb el tcpdump. Com que el protocol imaps és
text hauries de poder veure la negociació, tot i que segurament
no vegis la tria final del teu client de correu.

> No m'aclaro si em falta alguna cosa per instal·lar. També fa
> un temps vaig canviar la app del correu del mobil per si era
> aquesta però l'avís continua arribant.

Potser es pot activar algun tipus de log de l'evolution on puguis
veure la versió de TLS que utilitza per negociar la connexió?

Si ho descobreixes ja diràs...

Salut!
Alex

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Re: what does trade war mean for chinese linux user?

[Marek Mosiewicz]

I think it means good for open source software. You can not forbid
using open software and people will understand that it is somewhat
dangerous to depend on corporations for such important issue as
software.


Best regards,
Marek Mosiewicz
http://marekmosiewicz.pl


W dniu pon, 03.06.2019 o godzinie 11∶04 +, użytkownik Long Wind
napisał:
> trade war between china and usa is escalating
> 
> an early debian distro has flavor for non-us users, because of us
> export restriction? how does usa enforce the law on Internet?
> 
> it's not easy for me to use mail and i may not respond timely

Re: How to reinstall without loosing configurations?

[songbird]

Aldo Maggi wrote:
> Last time I've reinstalled was in 2005 after a failure of Jfs (luckily
> I had the backup of my files), from them on I've just kept updating and
> upgrading.
> It is a couple of years, though, that some programs do not work
> properly, for instance Firefox (doesn't keep the correct spacing
> between lines, etc.), Thunderbird (in most threads doesn't show images.
> etc.), so I've started privileging Chromium and Evolution, but, as from
> about six months, the former doesn't open anymore some pages so I've
> installed Falkon which, as far as I know, uses the same engine as
> Chromium, but opens the pages that Chromium doesn't!!!
>
> Though Linux and particularly Debian are very good in providing proper
> updating, I start thinking that maybe something left behind in the
> process, piling up during the years is creating such inconveniences, so
> I've decided to reinstall my Debian.

  that can be a good way to get rid a lot of cruft 
from packages you no longer use and whatever gets
left behind if you don't purge packages when you
remove them.

  but i think it is also overkill.

  for a better understanding of what is going on
i consider it much better to remove the offending
packages and reinstall them if needed.  learning
about where they store configuration and user
information, how to backup and restore the parts
you want is well worth the effort.


> I have been using "testing" since Sarge without having any major
> problem, but I've noticed that reinstalling is more difficult now than
> it used to be at the beginning of the new millennium, at that time I
> would have used dpkg --get-selections and in the new partition dpkg --
> set-selections and afterwards I'd have copied some dotfiles but reading
> in various forums seems that now everything is more complicated.

  it can be.

  i keep a checklist of things and take notes of
what i've done for some more complicated tasks 
that i only do once in a while.


> Is there anyone who would advise me about the best way for having in
> another partition a new Debian (same pkgs as I have here) and the
> configurations I have (for instance, I'm wary of loosing control of my
> home server through Xephyr which took me a lot of time to configure,
> obviously I can do it via ssh but it is not the same thing, etc) .

  if you have things you spent a lot of time on setting up
i would make sure you have a backup of those before doing
anything that might mess that up.

  i've been running a blend of testing and unstable for 
a number of years and only did a reinstall from scratch
on the new machine i have now.  it went pretty well.  
most configuration files and settings i could copy from
a backed up home partition and the other bits i wanted
from /etc.


  songbird

Re: what does trade war mean for chinese linux user?

[Roberto C . Sánchez]

On Mon, Jun 03, 2019 at 06:43:35AM -0500, Nicholas Geovanis wrote:
>We can see that the US government is more interested in surveillance and
>propaganda on the internet than anything else.

Which makes them like every other government in that regard?  Meet the
new boss, same as the old boss.

-- 
Roberto C. Sánchez

Re: Using ISO image of installer DVD as repository - How?

[Richard Owlett]

On 06/03/2019 12:07 AM, mick crane wrote:

On 2019-06-02 12:47, Richard Owlett wrote:

On 06/01/2019 07:08 PM, mick crane wrote:

On 2019-05-31 13:20, Richard Owlett wrote:

With the first DVD of Debian 9.8.0 I did:
 dd if=/dev/cdrom of=dvd.iso bs=4M
I edited sources.list to read
 deb file:///home/richard/dvd.iso stretch main contrib trusted=yes

When running Synaptic's
?? Edit->Reload Package Information
I receive an error message:

The repository 'file:/home/richard/dvd.iso stretch Release'
does not have a Release file.


What is the problem?
TIA


On one installation the installer requested if I would like to use the 
CDROM as a repository and put this line in sources.list which I later 
commented out because I didn't want to have to keep searching for the CD.




Due to bandwidth constraints [originally on dial-up, now just a low data 
cap] all but one of my installs have been from purchased DVD sets. 
Although I tend to accept defaults, I habitually use the installer's 
"Expert" mode. The closest to "...if I would like to use the CDROM as a 
repository..." I've been asked was if I wished to scan additional CDs. I 
often did. After leaving dial-up I began installing new packages from 
the online repositories, although I continue to upgrade my system by 
doing a fresh install from DVD sets.

Re: [HS] GAFAM est devenu GAFA

[Pierre Chevalier]

Le 23/01/2019 à 13:27, Daniel Caillibaud a écrit :

Le 23/01/19 à 07:47, Stephane Ascoet  a
écrit :

Ce que micro$oft fait
semblant d'endorser, c'est "le code ouvert", que les immobilistes
confondent volontairement avec le libre pour entuber les gogos.


Ce n'est plus tout à fait le cas, MS produit pas mal de code libre (licence
MIT), cf https://github.com/microsoft/


Non solum ils font en effet du code libre, sed etiam ils ont carrément 
racheté github...


Ah mince, ça me fait penser qu'il faut que je déménage. Mais où? gitlab? 
git auto-hébergé?



Sinon, sur leur github, j'adore l'hypocrisie que j'ai l'outrecuidance de 
lire "entre" cette ligne:

  "Open source, from Microsoft with love"




par ex https://github.com/Microsoft/vscode/blob/master/LICENSE.txt
(qui aurait imaginé voir VisualStudio en libre il y a qq années ?)


Je ne l'imagine pas, et ne *veux* en aucun cas toucher à ça!



Et pour les nostalgiques y'a aussi MS-Dos ;-)
https://github.com/Microsoft/MS-DOS


Oh purée, la "dernière" version que j'y trouve est la 2.0... Il n'y a 
même pas la première version que j'ai utilisée (et longtemps), la 2.11...


Décidément, les ravages de cette mode deuxpointzéro vont plus loin que 
ce que j'imaginais...




Mais c'est pas ça qui doit justifier la disparition du M dans l'acronyme ;-)


Toutafé!




(même si MS me semble bcp moins dangereux que Google en terme d'hégémonie
et de préservation des données personnelles ; il reste hégémonique sur les
desktop mais la proportion de desktop sur le nb de processeurs en activité
chute régulièrement, et MS est à la ramasse sur la plupart des machins
connectés : tel, tablette, TV, montre, frigo, voiture…)


Ah. Mon jugement serait un peu différent: goût-gueule nous espionne à 
titre individuel, et il collecte tout sur nous, mais c'est écrit, c'est 
signé, on le sait.


(
À ce propos: j'ai tenté de télécharger mes données chez goût-gueule: ça 
a fait une archive de 8Go de données qu'il a fallu 48h pour qu'ils la 
constituent!!

)

Alors que chez Crimo$oft, on n'a jamais rien signé (pas moi en tous cas) 
comme quoi je leur filerai quelque donnée que ce soit. Mais, quand j'ai 
installé mon premier XP et que j'ai vu la différence flagrante de 
clignotement des interfaces réseau, par rapport aux NT, 95, 98 ou 3.11, 
il n'était que trop évident que plein d'informations circulaient depuis 
ou vers mon ordi, sans aucune interaction de ma part, sans que je n'y 
sois pour rien.


Ceci m'a démontré que l'espionnage des ordis par cet OS invasif était 
plus que soupçonnable. Et ça été la fin du double bout: GNU/Linux Debian 
et rien d'autre.


Il est vrai que Crimo$oft est peu présent dans les intelliphones de 
notre quotidien; mais dans les entreprises, il demeure souvent très 
présent, et beaucoup d'entreprises qui avaient naguère fui son hégémonie 
ont, hélas, fait machine arrière et ont suivi le mouvement, par souci 
d'interopérabilité pratique avec "tout le monde" (sic).


Du coup, je pense bien que le "créneau" de recueil d'information de 
Goût-gueule et de Crimo$oft n'est pas du tout le même: le premier se 
focalise sur un espionnage massif, gigantesque, des individus, et avec 
leur consentement (souvent inconsciemment), alors que le second 
semblerait plus axé sur le monde de l'entreprise, et conséquemment 
l'espionnage industriel et économique.


À+
Pierre
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Re: what does trade war mean for chinese linux user?

[Nicholas Geovanis]

We can see that the US government is more interested in surveillance and
propaganda on the internet than anything else.

On Mon, Jun 3, 2019, 6:30 AM Roberto C. Sánchez  wrote:

> On Mon, Jun 03, 2019 at 11:04:57AM +, Long Wind wrote:
> >trade war between china and usa is escalating
> >an early debian distro has flavor for non-us users, because of us
> export
> >restriction? how does usa enforce the law on Internet?
> >it's not easy for me to use mail and i may not respond timely
>
> The presence of the non-US archive section is a historical relic from a
> period when the US considered certain forms of cryptography to be
> "munitions" and so hosting implementations of said cryptographic
> algorithms in the US such that users in foreign countries could download
> them was considered a violation of several US laws.  The solution was to
> host those cryptographic implementations outside the US.
>
> The current trade war is more about tarrifs (and maybe protection of
> intellectual property), thought since I've not been following the
> details I am not certain.
>
> In any event, the two matters are really quite separate and unrelated.
>
> As to "How does [the] USA enforce the law on [the] Internet?"  Well, it
> could be argued that they can't and they don't.
>
> Regards,
>
> -Roberto
>
> --
> Roberto C. Sánchez
>
>

Re: what does trade war mean for chinese linux user?

[Roberto C . Sánchez]

On Mon, Jun 03, 2019 at 11:04:57AM +, Long Wind wrote:
>trade war between china and usa is escalating
>an early debian distro has flavor for non-us users, because of us export
>restriction? how does usa enforce the law on Internet?
>it's not easy for me to use mail and i may not respond timely

The presence of the non-US archive section is a historical relic from a
period when the US considered certain forms of cryptography to be
"munitions" and so hosting implementations of said cryptographic
algorithms in the US such that users in foreign countries could download
them was considered a violation of several US laws.  The solution was to
host those cryptographic implementations outside the US.

The current trade war is more about tarrifs (and maybe protection of
intellectual property), thought since I've not been following the
details I am not certain.

In any event, the two matters are really quite separate and unrelated.

As to "How does [the] USA enforce the law on [the] Internet?"  Well, it
could be argued that they can't and they don't.

Regards,

-Roberto

-- 
Roberto C. Sánchez

Re: paste.debian.net discontinued ?

[Roberto C . Sánchez]

On Mon, Jun 03, 2019 at 11:40:34AM +0200, Jérôme BATAILLE wrote:
>Hi dear debian users.
> 
>Does someone knows if paste.debian.net is discontinued ?
> 
>Thanks for your replies.

It could just be that the service is down temporarily.  The debian.net
domain is available to Debian developers, who can self-register
sub-domains for hosting unofficial or semi-official services.  For
example, this was done with snapshots.debian.org (as
snapshots.debian.net at the start) while the service was initially
implemented and its utility was proven.  It was later made "official" as
snapshots.debian.org.

Either way, the point is that services under debian.net have no
significant reliability or infrastructure requirements and may be
self-hosted by a an individual in such a way as to not be resilient.

Given the popularity of paste.debian.net, I would hope that it doesn't
suffer from neglect, but I do not know for certain.  As an unofficial
service, it may not be easy to find out it its true state in that
regard.

Regards,

-Roberto
-- 
Roberto C. Sánchez

Re: lightweight wifi UI (Was: Insidious systemd)

[Dan Ritter]

didier gaumet wrote: 
> Le 03/06/2019 à 07:23, Patrick Bartek a écrit :
> [...]
> > The install includes lots of choices [...] So, why not
> > init?
> 
> I think a Debian maintainer had answered in the past something like
> while not using systemd himself, he admitted the perceived percentage of
> Debian anti-systemd users was not so important to justify it, because
> one can relatively easily desinstall systemd and install sysv after install.

There's a big problem with the popularity argument: it depends
on popcon, and popcon is overwhelmingly not installed by people
who care about security... who are likely to be professional
sysadmins.


> for a modern DE at least, systemd seems to be a requirement, but not as
> an init system?
>  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systemd#Ancillary_components

Correct, at least until Buster's GNOME, which will require it.
Hopefully Buster's XFCE will not; I don't know.

-dsr-

Re: Prompt restart services during pkg upgrades preseed file

[john doe]

On 6/3/2019 11:40 AM, Brian wrote:
> On Mon 03 Jun 2019 at 09:58:38 +0200, john doe wrote:
>
>> Hi, while installing Buster using a preseed file I'm getting the following:
>>
>> Select and install software
>> Configuring libpam0g:amd64
>> --
>>
>> There are services installed on your system which need to be restarted when
>> certain libraries, such as libpam, libc, and libssl, are upgraded. Since
>> these
>> restarts may cause interruptions of service for the system, you will
>> normally
>> be prompted on each upgrade for the list of services you wish to
>> restart. You
>> can choose this option to avoid being prompted; instead, all necessary
>> restarts
>> will be done for you automatically so you can avoid being asked questions on
>> each library upgrade.
>> Restart services during package upgrades without asking?
>>   1: Yes  2: No [*]
>> Prompt: '?' for help, default=2>
>>
>> If I use 'DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive' it works and will use the
>> default value and I don't get any output on the screen.
>>
>> I don't see what I need to change in (1) to avoied that prompt and I
>> can't specify the value of my choise?
>>
>> Any help is appriciated.
>>
>> 1)  https://d-i.debian.org/manual/example-preseed.txt
>
> Download and open the libpam0g package. Its DEBIAN directory has a
> templates file; the preseed directive you want is in it.
>

Thanks for the hint, here's what I ended up doing:

In '/var/log/installer/cdebconf/questions.dat' I had:

Name: libpam0g/restart-services
Template: libpam0g/restart-services
Value: cron

Name: libraries/restart-without-asking
Template: libraries/restart-without-asking
Value: false

and in the preseed file I use:

d-i libpam0g/restart-services string cron
d-i libraries/restart-without-asking boolian false


In a nut shell, I simply had to convert the debconf format to the
preseed file format.

--
John Doe

Re: df shows wrong disk size

[Henning Follmann]

On Sat, Jun 01, 2019 at 02:46:00PM -0700, Ross Boylan wrote:
> # df -B4096 /var/local/cache/
> Filesystem 4K-blocks   Used Available Use% Mounted on
> /dev/mapper/vgbarley-cache778160 191713529923  27% /var/local/cache
> 
> # e2fsck -v /dev/vgbarley/cache
> e2fsck 1.44.5 (15-Dec-2018)
> /dev/vgbarley/cache: clean, 8361/131072 files, 462129/1048576 blocks
> 
> I read these as still showing 3G for df but 4G for ext.
> Ross
> 

You cheat ;)
please show that

/dev/mapper/vgbarley-cache == /dev/vgbarley/cache

-H

-- 
Henning Follmann   | hfollm...@itcfollmann.com

Re: use mailx instead of sendmail in apt-listchanges

[Dan Ritter]

Martin T wrote: 
> Hi,
> 
> I have apt-listchanges installed and registered in apt system:
> 
> # apt-config dump | grep apt-listchanges
> DPkg::Pre-Install-Pkgs:: "/usr/bin/apt-listchanges --apt || test $? -lt 10";
> DPkg::Tools::Options::/usr/bin/apt-listchanges "";
> DPkg::Tools::Options::/usr/bin/apt-listchanges::Version "2";
> DPkg::Tools::Options::/usr/bin/apt-listchanges::InfoFD "20";
> #
> 
> "frontend" in /etc/apt/listchanges.conf is set to "mail" and valid
> e-mail address is set with "email_address" configuration option. Now
> when I upgrade a package which has NEWS/changelog present, then I get
> the "apt-listchanges: The mail frontend needs an installed 'sendmail',
> using pager" error message. This is because I don't have
> /usr/sbin/sendmail binary installed. I prefer to use mail/mailx and an
> external MTA.
> 
> What could be the most elegant workaround in this situation? Create a
> /usr/sbin/sendmail wrapper script which processes the
> "/usr/sbin/sendmail -oi -t" command called by apt_listchanges.py and
> sends the mail using mailx? Modify the apt_listchanges.py? Something
> else?

You could do the wrapper, or you could install nullmailer, which
is an extremely simple MTA that always hands off mail to a
relayhost (i.e. somebody else's problem).

Modifying apt_listchanges.py would require you to keep
maintaining the changes forever.

-dsr-

paste.debian.net discontinued ?

[Jérôme BATAILLE]

Hi dear debian users.

Does someone knows if paste.debian.net is discontinued ?

Thanks for your replies.

Re: Prompt restart services during pkg upgrades preseed file

[Brian]

On Mon 03 Jun 2019 at 09:58:38 +0200, john doe wrote:

> Hi, while installing Buster using a preseed file I'm getting the following:
> 
> Select and install software
> Configuring libpam0g:amd64
> --
> 
> There are services installed on your system which need to be restarted when
> certain libraries, such as libpam, libc, and libssl, are upgraded. Since
> these
> restarts may cause interruptions of service for the system, you will
> normally
> be prompted on each upgrade for the list of services you wish to
> restart. You
> can choose this option to avoid being prompted; instead, all necessary
> restarts
> will be done for you automatically so you can avoid being asked questions on
> each library upgrade.
> Restart services during package upgrades without asking?
>   1: Yes  2: No [*]
> Prompt: '?' for help, default=2>
> 
> If I use 'DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive' it works and will use the
> default value and I don't get any output on the screen.
> 
> I don't see what I need to change in (1) to avoied that prompt and I
> can't specify the value of my choise?
> 
> Any help is appriciated.
> 
> 1)  https://d-i.debian.org/manual/example-preseed.txt

Download and open the libpam0g package. Its DEBIAN directory has a
templates file; the preseed directive you want is in it.

-- 
Brian.

Re: lightweight wifi UI (Was: Insidious systemd)

[Kenneth Parker]

I wish to add one thing to this Discussion.  Mention was made, more than
once, that wicd "might" require Systemd.

Besides using Debian Stretch on one system (where I am happily learning
Systemd), I use Devuan Ascii (on an older machine with limited ram).

This is "official notification" that wicd works fine on Devuan Ascii,
meaning that, as far as I know, nothing in wicd actually references Systemd.

Good luck folks!

Kenneth Parker (Tri-Lingual:  Debian, Devuan and Ubuntu.  No Windows,
however).

Re: Installation Debian sur nouveau portable

[ajh-valmer]

On Monday 03 June 2019 10:08:07 Stephane Ascoet wrote:
> Le 30/05/2019 à 18:46, ajh-valmer a écrit :
> > Pour booter sur une clé USB Slitaz Live

> Je n'ai pas compris ce qui posait probleme, mais tu pourrais 
> essayer avec une cle USB qui amorce en UFI.

Pour booter sur une clé USB Slitaz Live,
je dois mettre l'option dans le BIOS :
Legacy (au lieu de UEFI), sinon ça boote que sous windows.

Re: Fallo con el certificado de Izenpe

[Betibeteka Beranduetxea]

Es bueno saber que el DNIe funciona perfectamente con los paquetes de
los repositorios. En mi opinión, eso lo coloca muy por delante de
Izenpe. Por desgracia me pilló la vulnerabilidad ROCA, y hasta que me
toque renovar el DNI, voy a tirar de Izenpe.

En cuanto al problema en sí, la solución que propone @franiortiz es la
más comoda, confirmo que el firefox descargado de mozilla.org (67.0)
funciona bien con el certifivado de Izenpe en buster, y probablemente
también lo hará en Stretch.

Un saludo

El 2/6/19, jul...@escomposlinux.org  escribió:
> El sáb, 01-06-2019 a las 15:22 +0200, Betibeteka Beranduetxea escribió:
>> El DNIe funciona en Debian 9 con su propio middleware.
>
> Supongo que te refieres a los paquetes opensc que generan para el DNIe.
> Que sepas que no son necesarios, los estándar funcionan perfectamente.
>
>>
>> Si, el firefox trae de serie los certificados de izenpe, y si se
>> instala el paquete izenpe-certificates firefox puede verificar
>> nuestro
>> certificado personal. Pero incluso sin instalar esos certificados
>> extra, Ubuntu es capaz de entrar donde haga falta.
>>
>> Tienes toda la razón en lo de meter una incidencia en Izenpe, y lo
>> hice justo antes de postear aquí.
>>
>> En 2016 no teníamos este problema. Me pica bastante el necesitar
>> tener
>> un ubuntu instalado. Pero no tengo ni idea de dónde viene el
>> problema...
>
> Pues genial lo de la incidencia en Izenpe, ellos sabrán probar. De
> todos modos se me ocurren dos posibles soluciones, que no creo que te
> valgan ya que lo suyo es que la tarjeta de Izenpe funcione:
>
> La primera es pedirle a Izenpe que te proporcione el par de claves en
> un archivo (tipo certificado FNMT) y usar los certificados con el
> dispositivo software del navegador. Desconozco como trabaja Izenpe, así
> que no se si solo proporciona tarjetas físicas o también puede dar las
> claves en un archivo. Probablemente no te guste porque quieras usar una
> tarjeta física.
>
> La segunda es comprar una tarjeta criptográfica estándar e instalar tu
> mismo las claves en ella, y a partir de ahí ya no dependes del software
> propietario de Izenpe ni del de nadie. Yo uso estas para llevar dentro
> el certificado de la FNMT:
>
> https://aventra.fi/webshop/index.php?route=product/category=60
>
>
> Un saludo
>
> JulHer
>
>
>
>
>

Re: Using ISO image of installer DVD as repository - How?

[Brian]

On Sun 02 Jun 2019 at 18:28:24 +0100, Brian wrote:

> A resumé of parts of the first few messages in this thread might focus
> minds. It started with
> 
>   > I edited sources.list to read
>   >   deb file:///home/richard/dvd.iso stretch main contrib trusted=yes
> 
> It was pointed out by Dan Ritter (correctly) that 
> 
>   > The problem is that the .iso is not a mounted filesystem.
> 
> There is another mistake in the line which was regrettably perpetuated
> by Dan when he gave the revised line
> 
>   > deb file:///home/richard/dvdmount stretch main contrib trusted=yes
> 
> On the OP saying
> 
>   > I now get a different error message:
>   >   The repository 'file:/home/richard/dvdmount stretch Release' is not 
> signed.
> 
> the advice was
> 
>   > Try [trusted=yes] and/or [allow-insecure=yes]
> 
> Hmm, an example line might have prevented the slide into apt mayhem.
> 
> At this point my guess would be that the OP substituted one malformed
> line for another malformed line and sank deeper into the morass. A
> rescue could be effected by using sources.lis(5) but there is, as yet,
> no sign that its advice has been followed or tried.

I am getting bored with soliloquy and waiting for self-education to bear
fruit.

The starting point is

 > deb file:///home/richard/dvdmount stretch main contrib trusted=yes

As the sources.list manual indicates, this should be

 deb [trusted=yes] file:///home/richard/dvdmount stretch main contrib

and will get the error message

 > Release file for file:///home/richard/dvdmount/Release is expired (invalid 
 > since...).

As sources.list(5) relates:

 > A repository creator can declare a time until which the data
 > provided in the repository should be considered valid, and if
 > this time is reached, but no new data is provided, the data is
 > considered expired and an error is raised.

We now update the line to

 deb [trusted=yes check-valid-until=no] file:///home/richard/dvdmount stretch 
main contrib

and there we have it. Success.

-- 
Brian.

Re: Installation Debian sur nouveau portable

[Stephane Ascoet]

Le 30/05/2019 à 18:46, ajh-valmer a écrit :

Pour booter sur une clé USB Slitaz Live


Bonjour, je n'ai pas compris ce qui posait probleme, mais tu pourrais 
essayer avec une cle USB qui amorce en UFI.


--
Cordialement, Stephane Ascoet

Re: lightweight wifi UI (Was: Insidious systemd)

[didier gaumet]

Le 03/06/2019 à 07:23, Patrick Bartek a écrit :
[...]
> The install includes lots of choices [...] So, why not
> init?

I think a Debian maintainer had answered in the past something like
while not using systemd himself, he admitted the perceived percentage of
Debian anti-systemd users was not so important to justify it, because
one can relatively easily desinstall systemd and install sysv after install.

It seems that you do not even need to install systemd (as the init
system) at all during a fresh install (if you don't install a full blown
DE)?
   https://wiki.debian.org/systemd#Installing_without_systemd

[...]
> I'm not against systemd, per se, just against having it forced on me
> by way of dependencies. I don't think the init should ever be a
> dependency. Of anything.
[...]
for a modern DE at least, systemd seems to be a requirement, but not as
an init system?
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systemd#Ancillary_components

Prompt restart services during pkg upgrades preseed file

[john doe]

Hi, while installing Buster using a preseed file I'm getting the following:

Select and install software
Configuring libpam0g:amd64
--

There are services installed on your system which need to be restarted when
certain libraries, such as libpam, libc, and libssl, are upgraded. Since
these
restarts may cause interruptions of service for the system, you will
normally
be prompted on each upgrade for the list of services you wish to
restart. You
can choose this option to avoid being prompted; instead, all necessary
restarts
will be done for you automatically so you can avoid being asked questions on
each library upgrade.
Restart services during package upgrades without asking?
  1: Yes  2: No [*]
Prompt: '?' for help, default=2>

If I use 'DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive' it works and will use the
default value and I don't get any output on the screen.

I don't see what I need to change in (1) to avoied that prompt and I
can't specify the value of my choise?

Any help is appriciated.

1)  https://d-i.debian.org/manual/example-preseed.txt

--
John Doe

Re: how to integrate ca-certificates with gpgsm (for email s/mime signature verification)

[deloptes]

Gregor Zattler wrote:

> I thought the location of the certs might be debian specific.

Hi,
sorry but I do not know anything about S/MIME - I tend to recall, it is
insecure and meaningless.
Another option would be to ask on the debian dev list or to address the
debian maintainer or wait here someone to answer.

regards

Re: debian jessie / Mise a jour securite kernel / affichage cassé

[Florent Jugla]

>> peux-tu nous envoyer les caracteristiques de ta carte graphique ?
>> (avec "lspci" )


J'ai le même problème ici sur une tour hp (debian jessie + kernel 
3.16.0.9 => pb affichage puis freeze systeme).


Voici la carte graphique

00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor 
Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 18) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])

Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 2a9c
Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 44
Memory at fb80 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4M]
Memory at d000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]
I/O ports at cc00 [size=8]
Expansion ROM at  [disabled]
Capabilities: [90] MSI: Enable+ Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit-
Capabilities: [d0] Power Management version 2
Capabilities: [a4] PCI Advanced Features
Kernel driver in use: i915


Et le processeur
Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU540  @ 3.07GHz

Florent

Le 30/05/2019 à 18:44, Frederic Robert a écrit :

On 5/30/19 4:18 PM, fw wrote:
peux-tu nous envoyer les caracteristiques de ta carte graphique ? 
(avec "lspci" )


Cdlt

"Dire que l'on s'en fiche du droit à la vie privée sous prétexte qu'on 
a rien à cacher,
c'est comme déclarer que l'on se fiche du droit à la liberté 
d'expression sous prétexte qu'on a rien à dire."

Edward Snowden



Bonsoir,

L'ordinateur est lenovo thinkpad t410. Le résultat de lspci pour la 
carte graphique


00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor 
Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])

 Subsystem: Lenovo Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller
 Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 28
 Memory at f200 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4M]
 Memory at d000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]
 I/O ports at 1800 [size=8]
 [virtual] Expansion ROM at 000c [disabled] [size=128K]
 Capabilities: 
 Kernel driver in use: i915
 Kernel modules: i915

Bonne soirée,