Seguridad controladores o firmware non-free

2020-01-21 Thread Ricardo Alejandro García Gómez
Muy buen día

Agradeciendo anticipadamente la atención y agradecido por su excelente
labor por la libertad  de
los usuarios

o desarrollares de software.

Por favor, podrían resolverme la siguiente inquietud respecto a los
paquetes contenidos en non-free: ¿Ustedes revisan
, en la medida de lo
posible, que tales paquetes
 son seguros
, particularmente me
interesa sobre controladores y firmware?

¿Si he consultado al lugar incorrecto podría mencionarme cómo y con quién
contactar?

Nuevamente, gracias por su atención, espero atentamente su respuesta.


Re: Problème trusted.gpg après mise à niveau

2020-01-21 Thread Jean-Marc
Tue, 21 Jan 2020 18:31:41 +0100
Bertrand Delaunay  écrivait :

> Bonjour,

salut Bertrand,

> Merci pour le lien vers le dépôt https. Pour le contenu du fichier 
> incriminé, voilà ce qu'affiche le terminal:
> 
> user@debian:~$ file /etc/apt/trusted.gpg
> /etc/apt/trusted.gpg: GPG keybox database version 1, created-at Tue Jul  
> 9 16:56:59 2019, last-maintained Tue Jul  9 16:56:59 2019

D'après la doc (cf. https://wiki.debian.org/SecureApt), ce fichier contient les 
trousseaux gérés par apt-key.

apt-key permet d'afficher, d'ajouter ou d'effacer des clés de ce trousseau.

Dans les versions récentes de Debian (la doc parle de Wheezy, ce qui ne me 
semble pas vraiment récent), les trousseaus se trouvent maintenant stockés das 
/et/apt/trusted.gpg.d.

> Mais si ce contenu n'est pas bon, comment le rectifier (si c'est possible) ?

À ta place, je commencerai par afficher les clés du ou des trousseaus grâce à 
apt-key.
Puis, je déplacerai le fichier trusted.gpg dans un répertoire autre que 
/etc/apt.
Et je vérifierai que la liste des clés est toujours identique grâce à apt-key.

Puis, tu pourrais réessayer une mise à jour.

Si quelque chose ne fonctionne pas/plus, tu peux toujours remettre le fichier à 
sa place.

Jean-Marc 
https://6jf.be/keys/ED863AD1.txt


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Re: I need to be root to run this script

2020-01-21 Thread Jude DaShiell
will alt+f2 sudo backlight-brightness  work?

On Wed, 15 Jan 2020, kaye n wrote:

> Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 12:36:23
> From: kaye n 
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: I need to be root to run this script
> Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 18:39:09 + (UTC)
> Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>
> Hello Friends
>
> I copied a script called backlight-brightness from the directory,
> /usr/local/bin
> of another GNU/Linux distro,
> and pasted it to the same directory of my Debian system.
>
>  If I run it in terminal,
> kaye@laptop:~$ backlight-brightness
> backlight-brightness: You need to be root to run this script
>
> Is it possible to be able to execute the script without being root?
>
> If it matters, in the other distro I would just press some key-binding that
> allows me to enter an app name so I can run it, (much like in Debian where
> I would press Alt-F2 which opens Application Finder and I would type an app
> name to execute it) , and I would type in backlight-brightness and it would
> open, no root needed.
>
> Thank you.
>

-- 



Re: Debian on server

2020-01-21 Thread Linux-Fan

Alessandro Baggi writes:


Il 21/01/20 18:30, Linux-Fan ha scritto:


[...]


Just one more (minor) point to add: Consider the hardware compatibility.
Most server vendors explicitly support RHEL which makes it very likely that
CentOS runs just as well. This might not be so important initially, but
whenever some special server hardware or software is needed, it can be
helpful to run a system as close to certified/officially compatible as
possible. Considering your use cases, the "glusterfs and some linux-ha"
stuff might e.g. benefit from 25G network adapters and I do not know how
well they run on Debian, maybe there are some server experts who can share
some light on this :)

If you want the same system on a workstation as on the server, this would be
a good point for Debian from my point of view: Debian provides an incredibly
versatile selection of packages which will essentially mean that in
comparison to CentOS you will only need to compile things yourself rarely.

HTH
Linux-Fan


Hi,
repository size is not a problem for me. I came from slackware and have no
problem compiling/packaging software that I need. I created some rpm
packages and I don't think that deb packages are so much difficult.
I noticed that generally I use always the same software. My main tool is the
CLI.


OK. For me, it is not only about the compiling itself but also about keeping
the self-compiled software up to date. YMMV of course :)


About hardware certification, yes this could be a centos advantage. If I
don't remember wrongly in the past HP had a list of supported server on
debian but if today I will try to check OS/distro compatility I found only
RH and Ubuntu.
At this point, considering that ubuntu came from Debian, I suppose that also
Debian can run on the server when ubuntu is listed or I'm wrong?


Ubuntu came from Debian, but it is using different kernel versions and IIUC
also automatically installs non-free stuff such as e.g. graphics drivers.
Hence, in terms of hardware support, there is usually a notable difference
especially with regard to those things that "just work".

I think "running" is OK in any case. Problems can arise, when it comes to
more: network cards (1G has always worked out-of-the-box here), RAID
controllers, HW diagnostics functions etc. I once tried to get HP's software
running on an old server (HP DL380 G4 if it matters) and it was quite
difficult on Debian although there were some old .deb packages available...
a "supported" operating system migt have simplified matters in the situation.

HTH
Linux-Fan


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Re: Dúvida com mate desktop

2020-01-21 Thread Lucky Linux

Entendo!

Por aqui roda que é uma beleza (o Cinnamon).

Detalhe, acho a interface Mate interessantíssima.


Abraços


Lucio

Em 21/01/2020 14:57, riesdra escreveu:
Uns anos atrás tentei usar o cinnamon mas achei ele um pouco pesado e 
dava umas travadas aqui no meu note, depois nunca mais testei ele.


--
*/Ricardo Libanio


/*


 Ativado Ter, 21 jan 2020 13:49:26 -0300 *Lucky Linux 
* escreveu 


Tive um problema idêntico, usando o Mate. Resolvi, passando a
utilizar o Cinnamon.


saudações cordiais,


Lucio Salles


Em 21/01/2020 13:05, riesdra escreveu:

Olá,

Tenho instalado o mate em meus dispositivos, mas ao navegar
sobre o menu ele trava muito, não mostrando as opções dos
menus conforme troca a posição do mouse. Este mesmo problema
tenho em um PC com stretch, em um note com buster, e numa VM
com buster também que tenho instalado em uma máquina windows
que uso para trabalho, tem alguma configuração que eu possa
alterar para resolver este problema?

desde já agradeço a atenção de todos.

--
*/Ricardo Libanio


/*






Re: Debian on server

2020-01-21 Thread Alessandro Baggi



Il 21/01/20 18:30, Linux-Fan ha scritto:

Andy Smith writes:


Hi,

On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 03:41:13PM +0100, Alessandro Baggi wrote:
> So, I know this is a debian list and could be obtain biased opinion 
but

> what are better point to use debian on a server instead of CentOS?

Really I think you are best off using whichever one you have the
most experience with - unless you're looking for a learning
experience anyway.

Debian has far more packages in its repositories than CentOS does,
even if you add the unofficial ELRepo.

CentOS has a longer support lifetime than Debian, though in practice
I find that some other combination of required software (or desired
new features of required software) will force an upgrade before the
strict end of life of a given CentOS release.


[...]

Hello,

this quoted text above is really the summary of the most important 
things,

thank you Andy!
I'd even go as far as saying that they are in descending order of 
importance

(experience most important, then packages, then support lifetime).

Just one more (minor) point to add: Consider the hardware compatibility.
Most server vendors explicitly support RHEL which makes it very likely 
that

CentOS runs just as well. This might not be so important initially, but
whenever some special server hardware or software is needed, it can be
helpful to run a system as close to certified/officially compatible as
possible. Considering your use cases, the "glusterfs and some linux-ha"
stuff might e.g. benefit from 25G network adapters and I do not know how
well they run on Debian, maybe there are some server experts who can 
share

some light on this :)

If you want the same system on a workstation as on the server, this 
would be
a good point for Debian from my point of view: Debian provides an 
incredibly

versatile selection of packages which will essentially mean that in
comparison to CentOS you will only need to compile things yourself 
rarely.


HTH
Linux-Fan


Hi,
repository size is not a problem for me. I came from slackware and have 
no problem compiling/packaging software that I need. I created some rpm 
packages and I don't think that deb packages are so much difficult.
I noticed that generally I use always the same software. My main tool is 
the CLI.


About hardware certification, yes this could be a centos advantage. If I 
don't remember wrongly in the past HP had a list of supported server on 
debian but if today I will try to check OS/distro compatility I found 
only RH and Ubuntu.
At this point, considering that ubuntu came from Debian, I suppose that 
also Debian can run on the server when ubuntu is listed or I'm wrong?





Re: Debian on server

2020-01-21 Thread Linux-Fan

Andy Smith writes:


Hi,

On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 03:41:13PM +0100, Alessandro Baggi wrote:
> So, I know this is a debian list and could be obtain biased opinion but
> what are better point to use debian on a server instead of CentOS?

Really I think you are best off using whichever one you have the
most experience with - unless you're looking for a learning
experience anyway.

Debian has far more packages in its repositories than CentOS does,
even if you add the unofficial ELRepo.

CentOS has a longer support lifetime than Debian, though in practice
I find that some other combination of required software (or desired
new features of required software) will force an upgrade before the
strict end of life of a given CentOS release.


[...]

Hello,

this quoted text above is really the summary of the most important things,
thank you Andy!
I'd even go as far as saying that they are in descending order of importance
(experience most important, then packages, then support lifetime).

Just one more (minor) point to add: Consider the hardware compatibility.
Most server vendors explicitly support RHEL which makes it very likely that
CentOS runs just as well. This might not be so important initially, but
whenever some special server hardware or software is needed, it can be
helpful to run a system as close to certified/officially compatible as
possible. Considering your use cases, the "glusterfs and some linux-ha"
stuff might e.g. benefit from 25G network adapters and I do not know how
well they run on Debian, maybe there are some server experts who can share
some light on this :)

If you want the same system on a workstation as on the server, this would be
a good point for Debian from my point of view: Debian provides an incredibly
versatile selection of packages which will essentially mean that in
comparison to CentOS you will only need to compile things yourself rarely.

HTH
Linux-Fan


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Re: Debian on server

2020-01-21 Thread Joe
On Tue, 21 Jan 2020 15:41:13 +0100
Alessandro Baggi  wrote:

> Hi to all members of this list,
> 
> I'm not new to linux and I'm searching a good stable distro for
> server. Many said CentOS and other Debian but really I have not
> enough experiences to choose one.
> 
> So, I know this is a debian list and could be obtain biased opinion
> but what are better point to use debian on a server instead of CentOS?
> 

A difference which may be significant to you is that Debian stable can
always be upgraded in place to the next major version, while even now I
think the advice with CentOS is a fresh installation.

Depending on your application software this may or may not be smooth
and easy (e.g. the last stable dropped support for PHP 5, needing a
fair bit of website maintenance, but that's not a Debian issue), but the
basic OS should upgrade without problems.

-- 
Joe



Re: Dúvida com mate desktop

2020-01-21 Thread Ênio Júnior
Tenho um Tablet XingLing com processador n2805, 1GB de ram e 32GB de
armazenamento.
Está com o Buster/XFCE. Depois de desabilitar o que não uso( cups, sane,
rsync, smb...), demora menos de 10 seg. pra carregar. O XFCE é um dos
ambientes mais estáveis que conheço, já é bem maduro.

Em ter, 21 de jan de 2020 12:59, riesdra  escreveu:

> Uns anos atrás tentei usar o cinnamon mas achei ele um pouco pesado e dava
> umas travadas aqui no meu note, depois nunca mais testei ele.
>
> --
>
>
>
> *Ricardo Libanio*
>
>
>  Ativado Ter, 21 jan 2020 13:49:26 -0300 *Lucky Linux
> >* escreveu 
>
> Tive um problema idêntico, usando o Mate. Resolvi, passando a utilizar o
> Cinnamon.
>
>
> saudações cordiais,
>
>
> Lucio Salles
>
>
> Em 21/01/2020 13:05, riesdra escreveu:
>
> Olá,
>
> Tenho instalado o mate em meus dispositivos, mas ao navegar sobre o menu
> ele trava muito, não mostrando as opções dos menus conforme troca a posição
> do mouse. Este mesmo problema tenho em um PC com stretch, em um note com
> buster, e numa VM com buster também que tenho instalado em uma máquina
> windows que uso para trabalho, tem alguma configuração que eu possa alterar
> para resolver este problema?
>
> desde já agradeço a atenção de todos.
>
> --
>
>
>
> *Ricardo Libanio *
>
>
>
>
>


Re: Dúvida com mate desktop

2020-01-21 Thread Ênio Júnior
Se não me engano o mate é um fork do Gnome2. Gostava do Gnome2, daí tentar
usar o Mate, mas achei ele muito bugado. Ainda bem que achei o Cinnamon,
que além de ser mais leve e - acredite - mais completo, ainda é muito bem
mantido pela mesma equipe do Linux Mint.

Em ter, 21 de jan de 2020 11:21, riesdra  escreveu:

> Olá,
>
> Tenho instalado o mate em meus dispositivos, mas ao navegar sobre o menu
> ele trava muito, não mostrando as opções dos menus conforme troca a posição
> do mouse. Este mesmo problema tenho em um PC com stretch, em um note com
> buster, e numa VM com buster também que tenho instalado em uma máquina
> windows que uso para trabalho, tem alguma configuração que eu possa alterar
> para resolver este problema?
>
> desde já agradeço a atenção de todos.
>
> --
>
>
>
> *Ricardo Libanio*
>
>
>
>


Re: Dúvida com mate desktop

2020-01-21 Thread riesdra
Uns anos atrás tentei usar o cinnamon mas achei ele um pouco pesado e dava umas 
travadas aqui no meu note, depois nunca mais testei ele.

--
Ricardo Libanio





 Ativado Ter, 21 jan 2020 13:49:26 -0300 Lucky Linux 
 escreveu 


Tive um problema idêntico, usando o Mate. Resolvi, passando a
  utilizar o Cinnamon.



saudações cordiais,



Lucio Salles



Em 21/01/2020 13:05, riesdra escreveu:




Olá, 



Tenho instalado o mate em meus dispositivos, mas ao navegar
  sobre o menu ele trava muito, não mostrando as opções dos
  menus conforme troca a posição do mouse. Este mesmo problema
  tenho em um PC com stretch, em um note com buster, e numa VM
  com buster também que tenho instalado em uma máquina windows
  que uso para trabalho, tem alguma configuração que eu possa
  alterar para resolver este problema?



desde já agradeço a atenção de todos.



--
 Ricardo Libanio

Re: Debian on server

2020-01-21 Thread mick crane

On 2020-01-21 14:41, Alessandro Baggi wrote:

Hi to all members of this list,

I'm not new to linux and I'm searching a good stable distro for
server. Many said CentOS and other Debian but really I have not enough
experiences to choose one.

So, I know this is a debian list and could be obtain biased opinion
but what are better point to use debian on a server instead of CentOS?

Thanks in advance.


running a server facing the internet would give me the jitters but if 
it's just for you as Andy says whatever you are comfortable with. As far 
as I know a server is a distribution with only installed what it needs.
I'm using the base distribution and added webmail, printing, saving 
files and that. I call it a server but it's not what you'd call anything 
special server.


mick


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Re: Dúvida com mate desktop

2020-01-21 Thread Lucky Linux
Tive um problema idêntico, usando o Mate. Resolvi, passando a utilizar o 
Cinnamon.



saudações cordiais,


Lucio Salles


Em 21/01/2020 13:05, riesdra escreveu:

Olá,

Tenho instalado o mate em meus dispositivos, mas ao navegar sobre o 
menu ele trava muito, não mostrando as opções dos menus conforme troca 
a posição do mouse. Este mesmo problema tenho em um PC com stretch, em 
um note com buster, e numa VM com buster também que tenho instalado em 
uma máquina windows que uso para trabalho, tem alguma configuração que 
eu possa alterar para resolver este problema?


desde já agradeço a atenção de todos.

--
*/Ricardo Libanio


/*





Re: Debian on server

2020-01-21 Thread Andy Smith
Hi,

On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 03:41:13PM +0100, Alessandro Baggi wrote:
> So, I know this is a debian list and could be obtain biased opinion but what
> are better point to use debian on a server instead of CentOS?

Really I think you are best off using whichever one you have the
most experience with - unless you're looking for a learning
experience anyway.

Debian has far more packages in its repositories than CentOS does,
even if you add the unofficial ELRepo.

CentOS has a longer support lifetime than Debian, though in practice
I find that some other combination of required software (or desired
new features of required software) will force an upgrade before the
strict end of life of a given CentOS release.

Cheers,
Andy

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Off-topic email usage note (Was: Debian on server)

2020-01-21 Thread John Hasler
When quoting someone don't include the "-- " signature marker.  Some
people have their email software configured to not show signatures.
Including that will make your response invisible to them.

It's also conventional to precede quoted lines with ">".  
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Re: Debian on server

2020-01-21 Thread Alessandro Baggi



Il 21/01/20 16:18, Default User ha scritto:



On Tue, Jan 21, 2020, 10:03 Alexander V. Makartsev > wrote:


On 21.01.2020 19:41, Alessandro Baggi wrote:

Hi to all members of this list,

I'm not new to linux and I'm searching a good stable distro for
server. Many said CentOS and other Debian but really I have not
enough experiences to choose one.

So, I know this is a debian list and could be obtain biased
opinion but what are better point to use debian on a server
instead of CentOS?

Thanks in advance.


Main difference between Debian and CentOS distros is package
management system. I prefer APT and DEB packages because it is
more intuitive, easier to check and control.
Also Debian is more conservative with it's slower-than-others
release cycle, which ensures more stability.

It really depends on what your server will.. uh serve, because you
will have to install additional software and that software could
have various dependencies, which have to be installed too and also
have supported versions.
I hope this makes some sense.

-- 
With kindest regards, Alexander.


⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀
⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Debian - The universal operating system
⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀https://www.debian.org
⠈⠳⣄


Alessandro,
Could you you please tell us more about your "use case"?

The more we know, the likelier we are to be able to give an opinion on 
which way to go.





Hi,

I need to run a samba server acting as a nas, a backup server (bacula), 
apache + tomcat, nagios, postgres dbms and probably in future things 
like container (docker vs podman?), glusterfs and some linux-ha.

I like also run on my workstation the same distro that my server will run.

Thank you in advance.




Re: Problème trusted.gpg après mise à niveau

2020-01-21 Thread Jean-Marc
À toutes celles et tous ceux qui utilisent le dépôt de l'université de Nantes, 
après un contact avec les gestionnaires du site, il est maintenant disponible 
en https à l'adresse suivante :
https://debian.univ-nantes.fr

Bien à vous,


Jean-Marc 
https://6jf.be/keys/ED863AD1.txt


Tue, 21 Jan 2020 12:48:59 +0100
Jean-Marc  écrivait :

> salut firenze,
> 
> As-tu une idée de ce contient ce fichier /etc/apt/trusted.gpg ?
> Une recherche dans le contenu des paquets Debian ne donne aucun résultat.
> Pas plus que le retour de la commande 
> Que donne la commande  ?
> Et plutôt que de supprimer le fichier, déplace-le.
> 
> 
> Un conseil aussi : essaie de passer à l'HTTPS dans ton sourcelist.
> Le transport HTTPS est inclus par défaut dans Buster,
> plus besoin d'installer un paquet additionnel.
> 
> Une bonne raison de prendre contact avec les gestionnaires du dépôt
> que tu utulises et leur suggérer de passer à l'HTTPS.
> 
> Jean-Marc 
> https://6jf.be/keys/ED863AD1.txt


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Dúvida com mate desktop

2020-01-21 Thread riesdra
Olá, 



Tenho instalado o mate em meus dispositivos, mas ao navegar sobre o menu ele 
trava muito, não mostrando as opções dos menus conforme troca a posição do 
mouse. Este mesmo problema tenho em um PC com stretch, em um note com buster, e 
numa VM com buster também que tenho instalado em uma máquina windows que uso 
para trabalho, tem alguma configuração que eu possa alterar para resolver este 
problema?



desde já agradeço a atenção de todos.



--
Ricardo Libanio

Re: noapi acpi=off

2020-01-21 Thread zahid

That was kinda easy. ...BUT

I found that .deb file at 
https://packages.debian.org/buster/all/firmware-misc-nonfree/download


I had the wifi pane up immediately with a list of networks.

I even rebooted. BUT

it says configuring interface but won't connect.

I am also having to connect using a usb 802.11n dongle to get the wifi  
with a list of wifi windows.


If I remove the  dongle the wifi  list disappears.

I bought the dongle to use for ubuntu 18-19 but don't need it for fedora 31.


could it be do with that error the bottom of of the error messages.

I had to install nividia package for windows 10 as well.


sudo dpkg -i firmware-misc-nonfree_20190114-2_all.deb
[sudo] password for zahid:
Selecting previously unselected package firmware-misc-nonfree.
(Reading database ... 183403 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to unpack firmware-misc-nonfree_20190114-2_all.deb ...
Unpacking firmware-misc-nonfree (20190114-2) ...
Setting up firmware-misc-nonfree (20190114-2) ...
update-initramfs: deferring update (trigger activated)
Processing triggers for initramfs-tools (0.133+deb10u1) ...
update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-4.19.0-6-amd64
W: Possible missing firmware 
/lib/firmware/nvidia/gv100/acr/ucode_load.bin for module nouveau



On 21/01/2020 14:37, Greg Wooledge wrote:

On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 02:30:10PM +, zahid wrote:

So now I just want to

" to get this firmware package and install it  [ /lib/firmware/rt2870.bin
firmware-misc-nonfree
 ] "

what are the instructions I need to follow to do that.

I need to get use to install debian install package system anyway.

Download the package.  It will be a file whose name ends with ".deb".

Get this file onto the Debian computer, by any means.  Ethernet,
sneakernet, magical osmosis, typing the bytes out by hand, whatever it
takes.

Install the package using "dpkg -i filename", as root.

Reboot.


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Re: Debian on server

2020-01-21 Thread Default User
On Tue, Jan 21, 2020, 10:03 Alexander V. Makartsev 
wrote:

> On 21.01.2020 19:41, Alessandro Baggi wrote:
>
> Hi to all members of this list,
>
> I'm not new to linux and I'm searching a good stable distro for server.
> Many said CentOS and other Debian but really I have not enough experiences
> to choose one.
>
> So, I know this is a debian list and could be obtain biased opinion but
> what are better point to use debian on a server instead of CentOS?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Main difference between Debian and CentOS distros is package management
> system. I prefer APT and DEB packages because it is more intuitive, easier
> to check and control.
> Also Debian is more conservative with it's slower-than-others release
> cycle, which ensures more stability.
>
> It really depends on what your server will.. uh serve, because you will
> have to install additional software and that software could have various
> dependencies, which have to be installed too and also have supported
> versions.
> I hope this makes some sense.
>
> --
> With kindest regards, Alexander.
>
> ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀
> ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Debian - The universal operating system
> ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://www.debian.org
> ⠈⠳⣄
>
>
Alessandro,
Could you you please tell us more about your "use case"?

The more we know, the likelier we are to be able to give an opinion on
which way to go.


>
>


Fwd: alt- backspace inside emacs in konsole terminal doesn't 'backward delete word' unlike xterm

2020-01-21 Thread kts
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Subject: Fwd: alt- backspace inside emacs in konsole terminal doesn't
'backward delete word' unlike xterm
To: kts 


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Subject: alt- backspace inside emacs in konsole terminal doesn't 'backward
delete word' unlike xterm
Date: Tuesday, January 21, 2020, 8:48:03 PM +0630
From: kts 
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org

konsole $TERM is xterm-256color.
For xterm and uxterm , it's xterm.

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Re: Debian on server

2020-01-21 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 21.01.2020 19:41, Alessandro Baggi wrote:
> Hi to all members of this list,
>
> I'm not new to linux and I'm searching a good stable distro for
> server. Many said CentOS and other Debian but really I have not enough
> experiences to choose one.
>
> So, I know this is a debian list and could be obtain biased opinion
> but what are better point to use debian on a server instead of CentOS?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
Main difference between Debian and CentOS distros is package management
system. I prefer APT and DEB packages because it is more intuitive,
easier to check and control.
Also Debian is more conservative with it's slower-than-others release
cycle, which ensures more stability.

It really depends on what your server will.. uh serve, because you will
have to install additional software and that software could have various
dependencies, which have to be installed too and also have supported
versions.
I hope this makes some sense.

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Debian on server

2020-01-21 Thread Alessandro Baggi

Hi to all members of this list,

I'm not new to linux and I'm searching a good stable distro for server. 
Many said CentOS and other Debian but really I have not enough 
experiences to choose one.


So, I know this is a debian list and could be obtain biased opinion but 
what are better point to use debian on a server instead of CentOS?


Thanks in advance.



Re: noapi acpi=off

2020-01-21 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 02:30:10PM +, zahid wrote:
> So now I just want to
> 
> " to get this firmware package and install it  [ /lib/firmware/rt2870.bin
> firmware-misc-nonfree
>  ] "
> 
> what are the instructions I need to follow to do that.
> 
> I need to get use to install debian install package system anyway.

Download the package.  It will be a file whose name ends with ".deb".

Get this file onto the Debian computer, by any means.  Ethernet,
sneakernet, magical osmosis, typing the bytes out by hand, whatever it
takes.

Install the package using "dpkg -i filename", as root.

Reboot.



Re: noapi acpi=off

2020-01-21 Thread zahid


Thank for your response,

I want to avoid using  "netinst with non-free firmware" because that 
would mean a reinstall again.


and I would have to install other software al over again.


So now I just want to

" to get this firmware package and install it  [ 
/lib/firmware/rt2870.bin firmware-misc-nonfree 
 ] "


what are the instructions I need to follow to do that.

I need to get use to install debian install package system anyway.


while waiting for your response

I was trying to follow these instructions and I am getting these errors

https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi#Simple_guide

sudo make
make ARCH=x86_64 CROSS_COMPILE= -C /lib/modules/4.19.0-6-amd64/build 
M=/home/zahid/rtl8192eu-linux-driver  modules
make[1]: *** /lib/modules/4.19.0-6-amd64/build: No such file or 
directory.  Stop.

make: *** [Makefile:1700: modules] Error 2
zahid@makeuse:~/rtl8192eu-linux-driver$ sudo make install
install -p -m 644 8192eu.ko 
/lib/modules/4.19.0-6-amd64/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/

install: cannot stat '8192eu.ko': No such file or directory
make: *** [Makefile:1706: install] Error 1

On 21/01/2020 13:27, Greg Wooledge wrote:

On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 11:15:34AM +, Zahid Rahman wrote:

During installation I got a prompt to install rtl_nic/rtl8168h-2.fw
rt2870.bin from media.
I was installing  using net install so I skipped it.

Awesome.  Knowing the exact filename of the firmware that you need
makes it *super* easy to identify the package that you need.

https://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=contents=rt2870.bin=exactfilename=stable=any

tells us that you need the package named "firmware-misc-nonfree".

As the name implies, this package is in the non-free section of Debian,
which means it's not included in the official installer images.

It *is* included in the unofficial "netinst with non-free firmware"
images.  If you use one of those, your problems will all go away.

If you aren't using one of the unofficial installers, then you'll need
to get this firmware package and install it.  That can be done over
ethernet, temporary or otherwise, or by sneakernetting it on a USB
stick, etc.


--
Backbutton.co.uk
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Make Use Method {MUM}
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Re: freecad

2020-01-21 Thread John Hasler
Levente writes:
> This is installed using apt-get. But that is good point, as I might
> have some leftovers in /usr/local.

So you had previously installed FreeCAD from a non-Debian source?
Remove it.  If necessary go into /usr/local/lib and remove any libraries
the non-Debian FreeCAD package installed.

Leftover libraries in /usr/local can cause some *very* subtle problems.
-- 
John Hasler 
jhas...@newsguy.com
Elmwood, WI USA



Re: freecad

2020-01-21 Thread Levente
Okay, I solved it. There have been some old leftovers in /usr/local. I
removed them and everything was working again.

Sorry for the noise.

Bests,
Levente

On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 2:21 PM John Hasler  wrote:
>
> Levente writes:
> > The funny thing is that this file isn't in any Debian package.
>
> True.  So how did it get on your computer?  Did you install the Debian
> FreeCAD package, or did you install FreeCAD from elsewhere?
>
> The Debian FreeCAD package works fine for me.
>
> > So, I don't know why can it run with root.
>
> Not having been installed from a Debian package does not prevent it from
> requiring root.
> --
> John Hasler
> jhas...@newsguy.com
> Elmwood, WI USA
>



Re: noapi acpi=off

2020-01-21 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 11:15:34AM +, Zahid Rahman wrote:
> During installation I got a prompt to install rtl_nic/rtl8168h-2.fw
> rt2870.bin from media.
> I was installing  using net install so I skipped it.

Awesome.  Knowing the exact filename of the firmware that you need
makes it *super* easy to identify the package that you need.

https://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=contents=rt2870.bin=exactfilename=stable=any

tells us that you need the package named "firmware-misc-nonfree".

As the name implies, this package is in the non-free section of Debian,
which means it's not included in the official installer images.

It *is* included in the unofficial "netinst with non-free firmware"
images.  If you use one of those, your problems will all go away.

If you aren't using one of the unofficial installers, then you'll need
to get this firmware package and install it.  That can be done over
ethernet, temporary or otherwise, or by sneakernetting it on a USB
stick, etc.



Re: freecad

2020-01-21 Thread John Hasler
Levente writes:
> The funny thing is that this file isn't in any Debian package.

True.  So how did it get on your computer?  Did you install the Debian
FreeCAD package, or did you install FreeCAD from elsewhere?

The Debian FreeCAD package works fine for me.

> So, I don't know why can it run with root.

Not having been installed from a Debian package does not prevent it from
requiring root.
-- 
John Hasler 
jhas...@newsguy.com
Elmwood, WI USA



Re: freecad

2020-01-21 Thread Levente
This is installed using apt-get. But that is good point, as I might
have some leftovers in /usr/local.

BR,
Levente

On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 2:04 PM Nektarios Katakis
 wrote:
>
> Στις 2020-01-21 12:42, Levente έγραψε:
> > The funny thing is that this file isn't in any Debian package.
> >
> > https://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=contents=libhdf5_serial.so.100=path=stable=any
> >
> > So, I don't know why can it run with root.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 1:10 PM Dan Purgert  wrote:
> >>
> >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> >> Hash: SHA256
> >>
> >> Levente wrote:
> >> > Hi all,
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > I recently experienced that I can't launch FreeCad.
> >> >
> >> > lev@mercury:~$ freecad
> >> > freecad: error while loading shared libraries: libhdf5_serial.so.100:
> >>
> >> Sounds like your general user account doesn't have permissions to
> >> access
> >> this library.
> >>
> >> Perhaps an update mucked it up (or, if it was me, mucking around as
> >> root
> >> and forgetting to set global read permissions).
> >>
> >>
> >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
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> >>
> >> --
> >> |_|O|_|
> >> |_|_|O| Github: https://github.com/dpurgert
> >> |O|O|O| PGP: 05CA 9A50 3F2E 1335 4DC5  4AEE 8E11 DDF3 1279 A281
> >>
> How did you install freecad initially? Did you do a manual installation
> or used apt-get?
> apt-get installation clearly works for me on debian buster. Maybe you
> should remove and reinstall it.
> ---
> Regards,
> Nektarios Katakis



Re: freecad

2020-01-21 Thread Nektarios Katakis

Στις 2020-01-21 12:42, Levente έγραψε:

The funny thing is that this file isn't in any Debian package.

https://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=contents=libhdf5_serial.so.100=path=stable=any

So, I don't know why can it run with root.


On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 1:10 PM Dan Purgert  wrote:


-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA256

Levente wrote:
> Hi all,
>
>
> I recently experienced that I can't launch FreeCad.
>
> lev@mercury:~$ freecad
> freecad: error while loading shared libraries: libhdf5_serial.so.100:

Sounds like your general user account doesn't have permissions to 
access

this library.

Perhaps an update mucked it up (or, if it was me, mucking around as 
root

and forgetting to set global read permissions).


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How did you install freecad initially? Did you do a manual installation 
or used apt-get?
apt-get installation clearly works for me on debian buster. Maybe you 
should remove and reinstall it.

---
Regards,
Nektarios Katakis



Re: freecad

2020-01-21 Thread Levente
I run freecad with user root, and I did this:

root@mercury:/home/lev# lsof | grep freecad | grep libhdf5
freecad   11574root  mem   REG
   8,2   3806704   11433825
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libhdf5_openmpi.so.103.0.0
freecad   11574 11575 QXcbEventroot  mem   REG
   8,2   3806704   11433825
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libhdf5_openmpi.so.103.0.0
freecad   11574 11576 gmainroot  mem   REG
   8,2   3806704   11433825
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libhdf5_openmpi.so.103.0.0
freecad   11574 11577 gdbusroot  mem   REG
   8,2   3806704   11433825
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libhdf5_openmpi.so.103.0.0
freecad   11574 11578 QDBusConnroot  mem   REG
   8,2   3806704   11433825
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libhdf5_openmpi.so.103.0.0
freecad   11574 11579 freecad:droot  mem   REG
   8,2   3806704   11433825
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libhdf5_openmpi.so.103.0.0
freecad   11574 11581 freecad  root  mem   REG
   8,2   3806704   11433825
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libhdf5_openmpi.so.103.0.0
freecad   11574 11582 Qt\x20bearoot  mem   REG
   8,2   3806704   11433825
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libhdf5_openmpi.so.103.0.0
freecad   11574 11621 freecad  root  mem   REG
   8,2   3806704   11433825
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libhdf5_openmpi.so.103.0.0
freecad   11574 11622 freecad  root  mem   REG
   8,2   3806704   11433825
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libhdf5_openmpi.so.103.0.0
freecad   11574 11623 freecad  root  mem   REG
   8,2   3806704   11433825
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libhdf5_openmpi.so.103.0.0


So this is the question really, what makes a normal user look for that
non-existent library?


On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 1:42 PM Levente  wrote:
>
> The funny thing is that this file isn't in any Debian package.
>
> https://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=contents=libhdf5_serial.so.100=path=stable=any
>
> So, I don't know why can it run with root.
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 1:10 PM Dan Purgert  wrote:
> >
> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> > Hash: SHA256
> >
> > Levente wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > >
> > > I recently experienced that I can't launch FreeCad.
> > >
> > > lev@mercury:~$ freecad
> > > freecad: error while loading shared libraries: libhdf5_serial.so.100:
> >
> > Sounds like your general user account doesn't have permissions to access
> > this library.
> >
> > Perhaps an update mucked it up (or, if it was me, mucking around as root
> > and forgetting to set global read permissions).
> >
> >
> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
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> >
> > --
> > |_|O|_|
> > |_|_|O| Github: https://github.com/dpurgert
> > |O|O|O| PGP: 05CA 9A50 3F2E 1335 4DC5  4AEE 8E11 DDF3 1279 A281
> >



Bug #949471 --- help needed to figure which component it is in

2020-01-21 Thread Chris Ward
Please take a look at 
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=949471 . I have 
reported it as a bug in open-infrastructure-system-build , but I don't 
think the problem is in this component; I think the problem is in one of 
the components that it installs ( maybe ca-certificates ) . Please help 
by diagnosing which component has the bug and reassign the bug to that 
component. There should be sufficient information in 
http://tjcw.freeshell.org/oisb-fail/ to make progress.


--
Chris Ward



Re: freecad

2020-01-21 Thread Levente
The funny thing is that this file isn't in any Debian package.

https://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=contents=libhdf5_serial.so.100=path=stable=any

So, I don't know why can it run with root.


On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 1:10 PM Dan Purgert  wrote:
>
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA256
>
> Levente wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> >
> > I recently experienced that I can't launch FreeCad.
> >
> > lev@mercury:~$ freecad
> > freecad: error while loading shared libraries: libhdf5_serial.so.100:
>
> Sounds like your general user account doesn't have permissions to access
> this library.
>
> Perhaps an update mucked it up (or, if it was me, mucking around as root
> and forgetting to set global read permissions).
>
>
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
>
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> Psi0dXoi4Hsp1Js4Xx7oFxPyc1VvOg==
> =S3xl
> -END PGP SIGNATURE-
>
> --
> |_|O|_|
> |_|_|O| Github: https://github.com/dpurgert
> |O|O|O| PGP: 05CA 9A50 3F2E 1335 4DC5  4AEE 8E11 DDF3 1279 A281
>



Re: freecad

2020-01-21 Thread Dan Purgert
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA256

Levente wrote:
> Hi all,
>
>
> I recently experienced that I can't launch FreeCad.
>
> lev@mercury:~$ freecad
> freecad: error while loading shared libraries: libhdf5_serial.so.100:

Sounds like your general user account doesn't have permissions to access
this library.  

Perhaps an update mucked it up (or, if it was me, mucking around as root
and forgetting to set global read permissions).


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-- 
|_|O|_| 
|_|_|O| Github: https://github.com/dpurgert
|O|O|O| PGP: 05CA 9A50 3F2E 1335 4DC5  4AEE 8E11 DDF3 1279 A281



Re: Problème trusted.gpg après mise à niveau

2020-01-21 Thread Jean-Marc
salut firenze,

As-tu une idée de ce contient ce fichier /etc/apt/trusted.gpg ?
Une recherche dans le contenu des paquets Debian ne donne aucun résultat.
Pas plus que le retour de la commande 
Que donne la commande  ?
Et plutôt que de supprimer le fichier, déplace-le.


Un conseil aussi : essaie de passer à l'HTTPS dans ton sourcelist.
Le transport HTTPS est inclus par défaut dans Buster,
plus besoin d'installer un paquet additionnel.

Une bonne raison de prendre contact avec les gestionnaires du dépôt
que tu utulises et leur suggérer de passer à l'HTTPS.

Jean-Marc 
https://6jf.be/keys/ED863AD1.txt



Tue, 21 Jan 2020 12:14:33 +0100
firenze...@orange.fr écrivait :

> Bonjour,
> 
> Merci pour vos réponses.
> 
> J'ai d'abord changé le contenu de mon fichier /etc/apt/sources.list  
> ce qui n'a rien changé. Les Warnings s'affichent toujours. Ayant lu que 
> les Warnings, n'étant que des messages d'avertissement, je peux 
> confirmer que, contrairement à ce que je pensais, ça ne bloque pas la 
> mise à jour.
> 
> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
> [sudo] Mot de passe de user
> Atteint :1 http://security.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates 
> InRelease
> Atteint :2 http://ftp.univ-nantes.fr/debian buster InRelease
> Atteint :3 http://ftp.univ-nantes.fr/debian buster-backports InRelease
> Atteint :4 http://ftp.univ-nantes.fr/debian buster-updates InRelease
> Lecture des listes de paquets... Fait
> W: 
> http://security.debian.org/debian-security/dists/buster/updates/InRelease: 
> The key(s) in the keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg are ignored as the file 
> has an unsupported filetype.
> W: http://ftp.univ-nantes.fr/debian/dists/buster/InRelease: The key(s) 
> in the keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg are ignored as the file has an 
> unsupported filetype.
> W: http://ftp.univ-nantes.fr/debian/dists/buster-backports/InRelease: 
> The key(s) in the keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg are ignored as the file 
> has an unsupported filetype.
> W: http://ftp.univ-nantes.fr/debian/dists/buster-updates/InRelease: The 
> key(s) in the keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg are ignored as the file has 
> an unsupported filetype.
> Lecture des listes de paquets... Fait
> Construction de l'arbre des dépendances
> Lecture des informations d'état... Fait
> Calcul de la mise à jour... Fait
> Le paquet suivant a été installé automatiquement et n'est plus nécessaire :
>    thunderbird-l10n-fr
> Veuillez utiliser « sudo apt autoremove » pour le supprimer.
> Les paquets suivants seront mis à jour :
>    lightning openjdk-11-jre openjdk-11-jre-headless thunderbird 
> thunderbird-l10n-fr
> 5 mis à jour, 0 nouvellement installés, 0 à enlever et 0 non mis à jour.
> Il est nécessaire de prendre 0 o/80,5 Mo dans les archives.
> Après cette opération, 353 ko d'espace disque supplémentaires seront 
> utilisés.
> Souhaitez-vous continuer ? [O/n] o
> 
> Ça ne pose donc pas de problème si on fait une confiance absolue à son 
> miroir habituel.
> 
> Quant à la suppression du fichier /etc/apt/trusted.gpg , je voudrais 
> savoir quelles conséquences pourrait avoir cette amputation avant de la 
> mettre en œuvre. D'après ce qui a été écrit dans plusieurs forums, les 
> Warnings ne s'affichent certes plus; mais n'est-ce pas ouvrir une brèche 
> dans la sécurité du système que de supprimer ce fichier ? Peut-on tenter 
> de régénérer/reconfiguer le fichier /etc/apt/trusted.gpg pour le rendre 
> de nouveau viable pour apt avant d'en venir là ?
> 
> 
> Le 13/01/2020 à 17:34, firenze...@orange.fr a écrit :
> > Bonjour,
> > J'ai mis ma debian à niveau vers buster. Or depuis, je ne parviens 
> > plus à mettre mon système à jour. Dans un terminal, ça donne ce qui 
> > suit :
> >
> > user@debian:~$ sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
> > [sudo] Mot de passe de user :
> > Atteint :1 http://security.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates 
> > InRelease
> > Atteint :2 http://ftp.univ-nantes.fr/debian buster InRelease
> > Atteint :3 http://ftp.univ-nantes.fr/debian buster-backports InRelease
> > Atteint :4 http://ftp.univ-nantes.fr/debian buster-updates InRelease
> > Lecture des listes de paquets... Fait
> > W: 
> > http://security.debian.org/debian-security/dists/buster/updates/InRelease: 
> > The key(s) in the keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg are ignored as the file 
> > has an unsupported filetype.
> > W: http://ftp.univ-nantes.fr/debian/dists/buster/InRelease: The key(s) 
> > in the keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg are ignored as the file has an 
> > unsupported filetype.
> > W: http://ftp.univ-nantes.fr/debian/dists/buster-backports/InRelease: 
> > The key(s) in the keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg are ignored as the file 
> > has an unsupported filetype.
> > W: http://ftp.univ-nantes.fr/debian/dists/buster-updates/InRelease: 
> > The key(s) in the keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg are ignored as the file 
> > has an unsupported filetype.
> > Lecture des listes de paquets... Fait
> > Construction de l'arbre des dépendances
> > Lecture des informations 

Re: freecad

2020-01-21 Thread Nektarios Katakis

Στις 2020-01-21 10:24, Levente έγραψε:

Hi all,


I recently experienced that I can't launch FreeCad.

lev@mercury:~$ freecad
freecad: error while loading shared libraries: libhdf5_serial.so.100:
cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
lev@mercury:~$ whereis freecad
freecad: /usr/bin/freecad /usr/lib/freecad /usr/share/freecad

However, I can run FreeCad as root without any problems.

Can you help me finding the cause of this issue?


Thanks,
Levente


You should check this file's libhdf5_serial.so.100 permissions/group and 
add your user to that group.
Hopefully that will fix it. Alternatively you can run with `sudo 
freecad` but it s not ideal to run

programs as root.

---
Regards,
Nektarios Katakis



Re: freecad

2020-01-21 Thread zahid



In a konsole terminal

you may need to login as  root first

# su -

enter root password

# password:

make user a sudoer  ; my    user name "zahid"

# usermod -aG sudo zahid


Regards

Zahid



On 21/01/2020 10:24, Levente wrote:

Hi all,


I recently experienced that I can't launch FreeCad.

lev@mercury:~$ freecad
freecad: error while loading shared libraries: libhdf5_serial.so.100:
cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
lev@mercury:~$ whereis freecad
freecad: /usr/bin/freecad /usr/lib/freecad /usr/share/freecad

However, I can run FreeCad as root without any problems.

Can you help me finding the cause of this issue?


Thanks,
Levente


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Re: noapi acpi=off

2020-01-21 Thread Zahid Rahman
Following your message.
I have just done a complete fresh in reinstall  of debian.
The installation processes removed the other two linux , fedora 31 and
suseopen.
I don't care about that I saved my data.
I have dual boot with windows 10.

At the moment I am running a wired connection.
Debian and  booting up and shutting down fine... shutdown is especially
fast.

During installation I got a prompt to install rtl_nic/rtl8168h-2.fw
rt2870.bin from media.
I was installing  using net install so I skipped it.

There are some error messages during boot up which say failed to load firm
ware. . They flash quickly
and I don't know where the log file.

Result of lspci -v

00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 8th Gen Core 4-core Processor Host
Bridge/DRAM Registers [Coffee Lake H] (rev 07)
Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company 8th Gen Core 4-core Processor Host
Bridge/DRAM Registers [Coffee Lake H]
Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
Capabilities: 
Kernel driver in use: skl_uncore

00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Skylake PCIe Controller (x16) (rev
07) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 122
Bus: primary=00, secondary=01, subordinate=01, sec-latency=0
I/O behind bridge: 4000-4fff
Memory behind bridge: 8300-840f
Prefetchable memory behind bridge: 7000-81ff
Capabilities: 
Kernel driver in use: pcieport

00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation UHD Graphics 630
(Mobile) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company UHD Graphics 630 (Mobile)
Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 132
Memory at 8200 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M]
Memory at 6000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]
I/O ports at 5000 [size=64]
[virtual] Expansion ROM at 000c [disabled] [size=128K]
Capabilities: 
Kernel driver in use: i915
Kernel modules: i915

00:04.0 Signal processing controller: Intel Corporation Skylake Processor
Thermal Subsystem (rev 07)
Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Xeon E3-1200 v5/E3-1500 v5/6th Gen Core
Processor Thermal Subsystem
Flags: fast devsel, IRQ 16
Memory at 8461 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=32K]
Capabilities: 
Kernel driver in use: proc_thermal
Kernel modules: processor_thermal_device

00:12.0 Signal processing controller: Intel Corporation Cannon Lake PCH
Thermal Controller (rev 10)
Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Cannon Lake PCH Thermal Controller
Flags: fast devsel, IRQ 16
Memory at 84625000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
Capabilities: 
Kernel driver in use: intel_pch_thermal
Kernel modules: intel_pch_thermal

00:14.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation Cannon Lake PCH USB 3.1 xHCI Host
Controller (rev 10) (prog-if 30 [XHCI])
Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Cannon Lake PCH USB 3.1 xHCI Host
Controller
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 131
Memory at 8460 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K]
Capabilities: 
Kernel driver in use: xhci_hcd
Kernel modules: xhci_pci

00:14.2 RAM memory: Intel Corporation Cannon Lake PCH Shared SRAM (rev 10)
Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Cannon Lake PCH Shared SRAM
Flags: fast devsel
Memory at 8461e000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled] [size=8K]
Memory at 84624000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled] [size=4K]
Capabilities: 

00:16.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation Cannon Lake PCH HECI
Controller (rev 10)
Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Cannon Lake PCH HECI Controller
Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 141
Memory at 84623000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
Capabilities: 
Kernel driver in use: mei_me
Kernel modules: mei_me

00:17.0 RAID bus controller: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile SATA Controller
[RAID mode] (rev 10)
Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company 82801 Mobile SATA Controller [RAID mode]
Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 16
Memory at 8461c000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=8K]
Memory at 84622000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256]
I/O ports at 5090 [size=8]
I/O ports at 5080 [size=4]
I/O ports at 5060 [size=32]
Memory at 84621000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=2K]
Capabilities: 
Kernel driver in use: ahci
Kernel modules: ahci

00:1d.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Cannon Lake PCH PCI Express Root Port
(rev f0) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 123
Bus: primary=00, secondary=02, subordinate=02, sec-latency=0
Memory behind bridge: 8450-845f
Capabilities: 
Kernel driver in use: pcieport

00:1d.5 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Cannon Lake PCH PCI Express Root Port
(rev f0) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 124
Bus: primary=00, secondary=03, subordinate=03, sec-latency=0
I/O behind bridge: 3000-3fff
Memory behind bridge: 8440-844f
Capabilities: 
Kernel driver in use: pcieport

00:1d.6 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Cannon Lake PCH PCI Express Root Port
(rev f0) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 

LibreOffice l'aide intégrée ne s'affiche pas

2020-01-21 Thread firenze . rt

Bonjour,

Depuis que j'ai installé Calibre (paquet fourni par Debian), je n'arrive 
plus à lire l'aide qui s'affichait quand je cliquais Aide>Aide 
LibreOffice ou appuyais sur F1.


À la place, une fenêtre qui dépend de Calibre, me demande de choisir un 
fichier source et un fichier de destination. Sans doute pour éditer la 
page d'aide LibreOffice au format ePUB, ce que je n'ai pas l'intention 
de faire.


Le seul moyen que j'ai trouvé pour afficher l'aide LibreOffice, c'est de 
recopier le chemin proposé par Calibre pour le fichier source et 
d'ouvrir le fichier en question (html) avec Firefox.


Personnellement, je trouve étrange de devoir compter sur un navigateur 
web pour consulter l'aide en local de LibreOffice.


Quelqu'un a-t-il une idée pour que Calibre reste en veilleuse quand on 
ne lui a rien demandé ?


Par avance, merci pour vos réponses.



Re: Problème trusted.gpg après mise à niveau

2020-01-21 Thread firenze . rt

Bonjour,

Merci pour vos réponses.

J'ai d'abord changé le contenu de mon fichier /etc/apt/sources.list  
ce qui n'a rien changé. Les Warnings s'affichent toujours. Ayant lu que 
les Warnings, n'étant que des messages d'avertissement, je peux 
confirmer que, contrairement à ce que je pensais, ça ne bloque pas la 
mise à jour.


sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[sudo] Mot de passe de user
Atteint :1 http://security.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates 
InRelease

Atteint :2 http://ftp.univ-nantes.fr/debian buster InRelease
Atteint :3 http://ftp.univ-nantes.fr/debian buster-backports InRelease
Atteint :4 http://ftp.univ-nantes.fr/debian buster-updates InRelease
Lecture des listes de paquets... Fait
W: 
http://security.debian.org/debian-security/dists/buster/updates/InRelease: 
The key(s) in the keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg are ignored as the file 
has an unsupported filetype.
W: http://ftp.univ-nantes.fr/debian/dists/buster/InRelease: The key(s) 
in the keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg are ignored as the file has an 
unsupported filetype.
W: http://ftp.univ-nantes.fr/debian/dists/buster-backports/InRelease: 
The key(s) in the keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg are ignored as the file 
has an unsupported filetype.
W: http://ftp.univ-nantes.fr/debian/dists/buster-updates/InRelease: The 
key(s) in the keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg are ignored as the file has 
an unsupported filetype.

Lecture des listes de paquets... Fait
Construction de l'arbre des dépendances
Lecture des informations d'état... Fait
Calcul de la mise à jour... Fait
Le paquet suivant a été installé automatiquement et n'est plus nécessaire :
  thunderbird-l10n-fr
Veuillez utiliser « sudo apt autoremove » pour le supprimer.
Les paquets suivants seront mis à jour :
  lightning openjdk-11-jre openjdk-11-jre-headless thunderbird 
thunderbird-l10n-fr

5 mis à jour, 0 nouvellement installés, 0 à enlever et 0 non mis à jour.
Il est nécessaire de prendre 0 o/80,5 Mo dans les archives.
Après cette opération, 353 ko d'espace disque supplémentaires seront 
utilisés.

Souhaitez-vous continuer ? [O/n] o

Ça ne pose donc pas de problème si on fait une confiance absolue à son 
miroir habituel.


Quant à la suppression du fichier /etc/apt/trusted.gpg , je voudrais 
savoir quelles conséquences pourrait avoir cette amputation avant de la 
mettre en œuvre. D'après ce qui a été écrit dans plusieurs forums, les 
Warnings ne s'affichent certes plus; mais n'est-ce pas ouvrir une brèche 
dans la sécurité du système que de supprimer ce fichier ? Peut-on tenter 
de régénérer/reconfiguer le fichier /etc/apt/trusted.gpg pour le rendre 
de nouveau viable pour apt avant d'en venir là ?



Le 13/01/2020 à 17:34, firenze...@orange.fr a écrit :

Bonjour,
J'ai mis ma debian à niveau vers buster. Or depuis, je ne parviens 
plus à mettre mon système à jour. Dans un terminal, ça donne ce qui 
suit :


user@debian:~$ sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[sudo] Mot de passe de user :
Atteint :1 http://security.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates 
InRelease

Atteint :2 http://ftp.univ-nantes.fr/debian buster InRelease
Atteint :3 http://ftp.univ-nantes.fr/debian buster-backports InRelease
Atteint :4 http://ftp.univ-nantes.fr/debian buster-updates InRelease
Lecture des listes de paquets... Fait
W: 
http://security.debian.org/debian-security/dists/buster/updates/InRelease: 
The key(s) in the keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg are ignored as the file 
has an unsupported filetype.
W: http://ftp.univ-nantes.fr/debian/dists/buster/InRelease: The key(s) 
in the keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg are ignored as the file has an 
unsupported filetype.
W: http://ftp.univ-nantes.fr/debian/dists/buster-backports/InRelease: 
The key(s) in the keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg are ignored as the file 
has an unsupported filetype.
W: http://ftp.univ-nantes.fr/debian/dists/buster-updates/InRelease: 
The key(s) in the keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg are ignored as the file 
has an unsupported filetype.

Lecture des listes de paquets... Fait
Construction de l'arbre des dépendances
Lecture des informations d'état... Fait
Calcul de la mise à jour... Fait
0 mis à jour, 0 nouvellement installés, 0 à enlever et 0 non mis à jour.
user@debian:~$

user@debian:~$ gpg --list-keys
/home/user/.gnupg/pubring.kbx

pub   rsa4096 2013-08-17 [SC] [expire : 2021-08-15]
  75DDC3C4A499F1A18CB5F3C8CBF8D6FD518E17E1
uid  [ inconnue] Jessie Stable Release Key 



pub   rsa4096 2014-11-21 [SC] [expire : 2022-11-19]
  126C0D24BD8A2942CC7DF8AC7638D0442B90D010
uid  [ inconnue] Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key 
(8/jessie) 


pub   rsa4096 2014-11-21 [SC] [expire : 2022-11-19]
  D21169141CECD440F2EB8DDA9D6D8F6BC857C906
uid  [ inconnue] Debian Security Archive Automatic Signing Key 
(8/jessie) 


pub   rsa4096 2017-05-20 [SC] [expire : 2025-05-18]
  067E3C456BAE240ACEE88F6FEF0F382A1A7B6500
uid  [ inconnue] Debian Stable Release Key (9/stretch) 

freecad

2020-01-21 Thread Levente
Hi all,


I recently experienced that I can't launch FreeCad.

lev@mercury:~$ freecad
freecad: error while loading shared libraries: libhdf5_serial.so.100:
cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
lev@mercury:~$ whereis freecad
freecad: /usr/bin/freecad /usr/lib/freecad /usr/share/freecad

However, I can run FreeCad as root without any problems.

Can you help me finding the cause of this issue?


Thanks,
Levente



Re: Problème raccourcis clavier Buster 10.2

2020-01-21 Thread Wallace
Je me répond à moi même.

J'ai trouvé le problème, avec la mise à jour 10.2, GDM avait commenté
l'option WaylandEnable=false
dans le fichier /etc/gdm3/daemon.conf. Du coup ma session était démarrée
en Wayland.

J'ai rien contre Wayland et je suis même content que ça bouge mais
clairement y a encore trop de problèmes. Entre les raccourcis claviers
qui ne fonctionnent pas sur toutes les fenêtres, Mattermost desktop qui
fait planter Firefox quand on clique sur un lien, Jitsi qui fait
exploser Firefox ou Chromium alors qu'en Xorg tout passe nikel, ça
devient pas exploitable au quotidien.

Le 15/01/2020 à 19:33, Wallace a écrit :
> Bonjour à tous,
>
> J'utilise le launcher Albert https://albertlauncher.github.io/ sous
> Gnome Shell (3.30), tout fonctionnait bien en 10.0 et 10.1. Depuis la
> mise à jour 10.2, l'appelle du launcher par mon raccourcis clavier (Alt
> + Espace),  qui est toujours désactivé côté Gnome Shell pour le menu des
> fenêtres si j'ai bonne mémoire, fonctionne que sur certains applications.
>
> Ca fonctionne lorsque je l'appelle sur un Firefox / TB / Nautilus /
> Chromium / LibreOffice / ... et ça ne fonctionne pas lorsque je
> l'appelle juste après le démarrage de session sur le bureau, sur
> Terminator, sur Mattermost (donc chromium web il me semble).
>
> J'ai reste les raccourcis de Gnome, puis supprimé à nouveau celui des
> menus, j'ai complètement désinstallé Albert, viré la configuration et
> remis sans succès.
>
> J'ai regardé le changelog de la 10.2 pour trouver une piste mais je
> sèche un peu.
>
> L'un d'entre vous aurait des idées sur les causes probables de ce soucis?
>
> Par avance grand merci
>
>



Re: Où et comment heberger une mailing list pour un projet logiciel libre (RefPerSys, petit mais ambitieux)

2020-01-21 Thread bm

Bonjour,
Si cela peut t'aider, j'ai fait une doc pour l'install de postfix et 
sympa sur un VPS:


https://www.amap-bearn.fr/installation-sympa-sur-un-vps/

La doc est faite pour jessie 

bernard



Le 20/01/2020 à 09:04, Basile Starynkevitch a écrit :

Bonjour,


Je ne connais rien à Python. Je sais que mailman  
utilise Python. Et je ne connais pas Perl (pour sympa 
). De plus, je suis sensé être 
professionnellement un expert en cybersécurité, travaillant encore dans 
un labo de sûreté du logiciel au CEA/LIST (sur bismon 
, un logiciel en GPLv3+). 
Psychologiquement, j'aurais du mal à assumer une cyber-attaque (même sur 
un VPS que je gère moi-même).


Dans le cadre du projet RefPerSys  (en GPLv3+, 
sur mon temps libre, avec échanges en anglais puisque mes partenaires 
sont Indiens) je cherche un hébergement de mailing list (en anglais). Je 
suis même prêt à payer un petit peu (i.e. quelques euros par mois). Il 
semble que FramaSoft  (auquel je cotise de 
temps en temps) offre une possibilité, mais les messages y sont en MIME 
type  text/plain, pas en 
text/html et je n'ai pas compris à quelle adresse email joindre un 
administrateur de FramaSoft.


RefPerSys  est un projet petit, mais 
scientifiquement ambitieux et sur le long terme (j'espère y travailler 
une décennie entière). En 2020 nous avons absolument besoin d'échanger 
du HTML. Un exemple de message échangé (actuellement en privé sur 
t...@refpersys.org -un alias de mél géré chez gandi.net) et sans 
archivage automatique) figure en 
http://refpersys.org/refpersys-Qt-based-GUI-mail-2019dec19.html (j'ai 
ajouté ce message à la main). On y voit bien que HTML est utile dans les 
messages échangés.


Le trafic actuel des messages sur t...@refpersys.org est de l'ordre de 
moins d'une douzaine de message quotidiens de quelques kilo-octets chacun.



Si vous connaissez un gestionnaire de list mél compatible FastCGI je 
pourrais l'installer sur le VPS loué chez OVH (sous Debian/Stable) 
abritant http://refpersys.org/


Librement.

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(mobile phone: cf my web page / voir ma page web...)






Re: Fwd: Re: AMD 10.2 netinstall

2020-01-21 Thread Rick Thomas
Hmmm...

It looks like you're correct.  I just downloaded the "netinst" and "DVD-1" 
unofficial firmware images and compared the two
"/pool/non-free/" directories on the two ISOs.  They are identical.

Bottom line: You can use either the netinst or the DVD-1 versions without fear 
of Catch-22.

Thanks for the correction!
Rick

On Mon, Jan 20, 2020, at 8:32 PM, David Wright wrote:
> On Mon 20 Jan 2020 at 17:09:33 (-0800), Rick Thomas wrote:
> > Whether you can use the "netinstall" CD depends on whether your device's 
> > network connection requires one of those non-free drivers.  If it needs a 
> > driver that isn't on the CD (which is more likely, the smaller the install 
> > medium) to retrieve the drivers it needs...
> 
> I'm confused. I thought you were discussing firmware. I was under the
> impression that the non-free firmware on the netinstall CD was the
> same as that on the DVDs, ie the files under
> http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/firmware/