Re: linux-image-4.9.0-12-amd64 breaks LUKS root

[deloptes]

David Christensen wrote:

> I re-imaged that machine and let it run for the past two week.  When I
> upgraded the kernel against today, it failed in the same manner.
> 
> 
> Any suggestions?

/etc/crypttab ?

/etc/initramfs-tools/ ?

Re: Change in plans (was: Re: Another possible device (was: Re: OT: Questions about (buying and) using a laptop docking station))

[rhkramer]

On Sunday, March 29, 2020 08:50:11 PM David Christensen wrote:
> On 2020-03-28 17:19, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> > To clarifly / amplify -- I don't think it is going to be worth the
> > trouble to try to make it (the Wavlink) work.
> 
> Well, that's no fun.  :-(

;-)

> I have found that it is often difficult to determine if some hardware
> accessory is going to work on some computer with Debian by RTFM and STFW
> alone.  Ultimate, you have to "walk the walk", install it, and see what
> happens.  Sometimes it just works OOTB.  Other times, you need to do
> some trouble-shooting.  In the latter case, dmesg and a good search
> engine get the job done.  If not, this mailing list is a good fall-back.
>   If you can find an error message and identify which package is
> generating it, you can file a bug report.

At the moment, I just feel too old to bother with that. ;-( 

And, as I mention below, I don't expect to have many meetings in the near 
future that would require undocking my machine (from my KVM setup).

> Have you identified a make and model laptop and a make and model docking
> station that are known to work with your chosen release of Debian?

No.  I use Wheezy in my everyday driver, but that won't work for the 
programming I want to do -- it needs something like GCC 7., so I 
installed Buster on the laptop which does have GCC 8.

For now, I'll just use the Inspiron without a docking station -- I don't 
expect to have many (in person) meetings available to get help with my program 
at this point in time.

When things change, I may look for an inexpensive (possibly used) laptop with 
a USB C port, which I think should give me a good chance at getting a docking 
station to work.

Thanks for your interest -- have a good day, and stay healthy!

Re: Change in plans (was: Re: Another possible device (was: Re: OT: Questions about (buying and) using a laptop docking station))

[David Christensen]

On 2020-03-28 17:17, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:

On Saturday, March 28, 2020 04:41:57 PM David Christensen wrote:

On 2020-03-28 12:18, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:

I received the Wavlink device, but I'm fairly certain I'm going
to return it and give up on it.  (I'm not clear on what software
/ drivers I'd have to find and install, and the device says it
doesn't support Linux (but does mention that it works with Ubuntu
14. -- I guess Ubuntu is no longer Linux ;-)

I was hoping that I'd be able to find a manual or an installation
guide online before I received (or opened) the package, but I did
not.


When happens when you connect the docking station to a USB 2.0 port
on your Dell 1501 laptop?  What does dmesg report?


I haven't unwrapped the unit -- I'm returning the unit in the
original, intact packaging.


What is the make and model of the Express Card dual 3.0 adapter?


Haven't received that yet, probably coming in 6 weeks from the far
east.


On 2020-03-28 17:19, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
To clarifly / amplify -- I don't think it is going to be worth the 
trouble to try to make it (the Wavlink) work.


Well, that's no fun.  :-(


I have found that it is often difficult to determine if some hardware 
accessory is going to work on some computer with Debian by RTFM and STFW 
alone.  Ultimate, you have to "walk the walk", install it, and see what 
happens.  Sometimes it just works OOTB.  Other times, you need to do 
some trouble-shooting.  In the latter case, dmesg and a good search 
engine get the job done.  If not, this mailing list is a good fall-back. 
 If you can find an error message and identify which package is 
generating it, you can file a bug report.



Have you identified a make and model laptop and a make and model docking 
station that are known to work with your chosen release of Debian?



David

Re: linux-image-4.9.0-12-amd64 breaks LUKS root

[David Christensen]

On 2020-03-14 23:14, David Christensen wrote:

debian-user:

I have Debian machine:

     2020-03-14 22:57:21 root@po ~
     # cat /etc/debian_version ; uname -a
     9.12
     Linux po 4.9.0-11-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.9.189-3+deb9u2 
(2019-11-11) x86_

64 GNU/Linux


When I install linux-image-4.9.0-12-amd64:

2020-03-14 22:58:13 root@po ~
# time apt-get dist-upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
The following NEW packages will be installed:
   linux-image-4.9.0-12-amd64
The following packages will be upgraded:
   linux-image-amd64
1 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 39.3 MB of archives.
After this operation, 193 MB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
Get:1 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian stretch/main amd64 
linux-image-4.9.0-12-amd64 amd64 4.9.210-1 [39.3 MB]
Get:2 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian stretch/main amd64 
linux-image-amd64 amd64 4.9+80+deb9u10 [7158 B]

Fetched 39.3 MB in 12s (3074 kB/s)
Reading changelogs... Done
Selecting previously unselected package linux-image-4.9.0-12-amd64.
(Reading database ... 106060 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to unpack .../linux-image-4.9.0-12-amd64_4.9.210-1_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking linux-image-4.9.0-12-amd64 (4.9.210-1) ...
Preparing to unpack .../linux-image-amd64_4.9+80+deb9u10_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking linux-image-amd64 (4.9+80+deb9u10) over (4.9+80+deb9u9) ...
Setting up linux-image-4.9.0-12-amd64 (4.9.210-1) ...
I: /vmlinuz.old is now a symlink to boot/vmlinuz-4.9.0-11-amd64
I: /initrd.img.old is now a symlink to boot/initrd.img-4.9.0-11-amd64
I: /vmlinuz is now a symlink to boot/vmlinuz-4.9.0-12-amd64
I: /initrd.img is now a symlink to boot/initrd.img-4.9.0-12-amd64
/etc/kernel/postinst.d/initramfs-tools:
update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-4.9.0-12-amd64
cryptsetup: WARNING: target sda2_crypt has a random key, skipped
/etc/kernel/postinst.d/zz-update-grub:
Generating grub configuration file ...
Found background image: .background_cache.png
Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-4.9.0-12-amd64
Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-4.9.0-12-amd64
Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-4.9.0-11-amd64
Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-4.9.0-11-amd64
Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-4.9.0-9-amd64
Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-4.9.0-9-amd64
done
Setting up linux-image-amd64 (4.9+80+deb9u10) ...

real    0m34.738s
user    0m9.616s
sys    0m3.132s


And then reboot, it refuses to accept the (correct) LUKS passphrase:


Please unlock disk /dev/disk/by-partuuid/-xx (sda3_crypt):
cryptsetup (sda3_crypt) : unknown fstype, bad password or options?
Please unlock disk /dev/disk/by-partuuid/-xx (sda3_crypt):
cryptsetup (sda3_crypt) : unknown fstype, bad password or options?
Please unlock disk /dev/disk/by-partuuid/-xx (sda3_crypt):
cryptsetup (sda3_crypt) : unknown fstype, bad password or options?
cryptsetup (sda3_crypt) : maximum number of tries exceeded
cryptsetup: going to sleep for 60 seconds...


I re-imaged that machine and let it run for the past two week.  When I 
upgraded the kernel against today, it failed in the same manner.



Any suggestions?


David

Re: suspend when laptoplid is closed

[Peter Ehlert]

On 3/29/20 12:33 PM, err...@free.fr wrote:


WHY THE DEFAULT IS SUSPEND WHEN LAPTOP LID IS CLOSED??? WHY???

systemd is for booting and managing services, not for managing power directly

yes, I know I have to change a line in /etc/systemd/logind.conf

but I also use mate desktop, and mate desktop have also the same default 
action, and mate desktop did not refere to systemd.

I WANT COHERENT ACTION FOR MANAGING POWER.
I WANT COHERENT ACTION FOR MANAGING POWER.
I WANT COHERENT ACTION FOR MANAGING POWER.
I WANT COHERENT ACTION FOR MANAGING POWER.


I AM TIRED OF SYSTEMD.
I AM TIRED TO HAVE EDIT MULTIPLES FILES BECAUSE WE HAVE AUTISTIC PROGRAMMERS.

PLEASE EXPLAIN WITH REALS ARGUMENTS WHY SYSTEMD IS TOUCHING MY POWER. (or why 
mate desktop did not read /etc/systemd/logind.conf)

SO, IT IS A PROBLEM WITH SYSTEMD OR WITH MATE DESKTOP.


It is not a "problem" with either

it is the default setting with the Mate screensaver. Just change it.

best wishes

Re: network-manager takes 1-4 restarts in order to recognize and connect to already-configured wifi network, USB dongle NIC

[deloptes]

Andrei POPESCU wrote:

> It's very convenient on a laptop switching between various wireless
> networks and has been quite reliable for me in the past years (don't
> even remember how many).

+1

Re: suspend when laptoplid is closed

[tomas]

On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 09:33:13PM +0200, err...@free.fr wrote:
> 
> 
> WHY THE DEFAULT IS SUSPEND WHEN LAPTOP LID IS CLOSED??? WHY???

...but you don't have to shout at 3500 innocent Debian users
for that.

You might get some help to fix your problem, though. Being
nice to people might be a good strategy to that end.

Yes, dealing with computers can be frustrating. OTOH, nobody
here's paid. All volunteers, y'know?

Cheers
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suspend when laptoplid is closed

[err404]

WHY THE DEFAULT IS SUSPEND WHEN LAPTOP LID IS CLOSED??? WHY???

systemd is for booting and managing services, not for managing power directly

yes, I know I have to change a line in /etc/systemd/logind.conf

but I also use mate desktop, and mate desktop have also the same default 
action, and mate desktop did not refere to systemd.

I WANT COHERENT ACTION FOR MANAGING POWER.
I WANT COHERENT ACTION FOR MANAGING POWER.
I WANT COHERENT ACTION FOR MANAGING POWER.
I WANT COHERENT ACTION FOR MANAGING POWER.


I AM TIRED OF SYSTEMD.
I AM TIRED TO HAVE EDIT MULTIPLES FILES BECAUSE WE HAVE AUTISTIC PROGRAMMERS.

PLEASE EXPLAIN WITH REALS ARGUMENTS WHY SYSTEMD IS TOUCHING MY POWER. (or why 
mate desktop did not read /etc/systemd/logind.conf)

SO, IT IS A PROBLEM WITH SYSTEMD OR WITH MATE DESKTOP.

Re: How can I see only the latest change log of packages before update ?

[The Wanderer]

On 2020-03-29 at 15:10, Andrei POPESCU wrote:

> On Du, 29 mar 20, 14:47:57, The Wanderer wrote:
> 
>> On my system, when I run
>> 
>> apt-get dist-upgrade
>> 
>> and say "yes" to the list of packages, the following things happen:
>> 
>> * apt-get downloads all the packages, but does not install them yet.
>> * apt-listchanges kicks in, automatically extracts and/or downloads the
>>   necessary changelogs for all the packages just downloaded, and
>>   presents just the new parts (relative to the already-installed
>>   package version).
>> * After I exit the pager which displays the changelogs, apt-listchanges
>>   gives me a prompt to confirm whether I want to continue the upgrade
>>   or not.
>> * If I say yes, the upgrade proceeds. If I say no, apt-listchanges
>>   aborts the upgrade process.
>> 
>> This sounds like exactly what you want, handled purely automatically. Do
>> you not get this behavior (or a comparable one) with apt-listchanges
>> installed on your system?
> 
> As far as I recall, by default apt-listchanges displays only NEWS items, 
> not changelogs (which reminds me I should install it on my systems).

If so, that must be a change in defaults from when I installed it. I
don't remember ever adjusting configuration in this regard (although
that's not an absolutely conclusive data point, as my memory is not
perfect).

The man page confirms that, though; it says that NEWS is the default,
and this can be changed with the 'which' option. Indeed, my
/etc/apt/listchanges.conf includes a line reading 'which=both'.

For the OP: you might want to try with that setting, and see whether the
results match what you want.

-- 
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persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all
progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw



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Re: How can I see only the latest change log of packages before update ?

[Andrei POPESCU]

On Du, 29 mar 20, 14:47:57, The Wanderer wrote:
> 
> On my system, when I run
> 
> apt-get dist-upgrade
> 
> and say "yes" to the list of packages, the following things happen:
> 
> * apt-get downloads all the packages, but does not install them yet.
> * apt-listchanges kicks in, automatically extracts and/or downloads the
>   necessary changelogs for all the packages just downloaded, and
>   presents just the new parts (relative to the already-installed
>   package version).
> * After I exit the pager which displays the changelogs, apt-listchanges
>   gives me a prompt to confirm whether I want to continue the upgrade
>   or not.
> * If I say yes, the upgrade proceeds. If I say no, apt-listchanges
>   aborts the upgrade process.
> 
> This sounds like exactly what you want, handled purely automatically. Do
> you not get this behavior (or a comparable one) with apt-listchanges
> installed on your system?

As far as I recall, by default apt-listchanges displays only NEWS items, 
not changelogs (which reminds me I should install it on my systems).

Kind regards,
Andrei
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Re: Casting handlheld devices on non-smart TV

[Andrei POPESCU]

On Du, 29 mar 20, 15:02:13, john doe wrote:
> 
> Why can it not be a wireless HDMI between my cell and my TV, basically
> the equivalent of my laptop being connected via HDMI to my TV! :)

That sounds like Miracast. According to the article I linked it didn't 
catch on because of compatibility issues between devices.


Kind regards,
Andrei
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Re: Unsolvable dependency problems around libc / libcrypt on debian testing/bullseye

[Andrei POPESCU]

On Du, 29 mar 20, 16:40:03, Martin wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 at 13:33, Andrei POPESCU  wrote:
> >
> > > Pinned packages:
> > >  libpython3.8-minimal -> 3.8.2-1 with priority -3
> > >  libcrypt1 -> 1:4.4.15-1 with priority -3
> > >  libcrypt1:i386 -> 1:4.4.15-1 with priority -3
> > >  powertop -> 2.10-1+b1 with priority 3
> > >  openssh-server -> 1:8.1p1-1 with priority 3
> > >  grub-efi-amd64 -> 2.04-3 with priority 3
> > >  isc-dhcp-client -> 4.4.1-2 with priority 3
> >
> > Why did you add these pins?
> 
> When I did the upgrade (the big one after 4 months) apt-listbugs
> warned about a number of bugs and I felt safer to pin those packages.
> 
> >
> > > I tried to unpin these packages:
> > >
> > > sudo apt-mark unhold libcrypt1
> >
> > Pins are not holds...
> 
> Thank you, this was not obvious to me. I now deleted the pins from
> /etc/apt/preferences.d/apt-listbugs and rerun update+upgrade and that
> seems to have fixed my problems.
> \o/

Ok.

> > Your system is a... complex mixture that is very easy to break.
> 
> You refer to my apt policy I assume and/or my apt sources list? I
> would be happy to simplify it. In my sources.list I now only have
> unstable:
> 
> deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ unstable main non-free contrib
> deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian/ unstable main non-free contrib

According to your 'apt policy' you also had repositories configured for 
Skype and Docker. Did you remove those as well?

> For my apt preferences I had:
> 
> Package: *
> Pin: release a=testing
> Pin-Priority: 650
> 
> Package: *
> Pin: release a=unstable
> Pin-Priority: 600
> 
> To be honest back in the day when I did that, I struggled to really
> understand it. My intention was to have the system take packages from
> unstable and if a package is not available there then from testing.
> Does it even do that?

It does the exact opposite, because in your configuration testing has 
higher priority.

For what you wrote above you don't need any pinning, just have both 
unstable and testing your sources.list.


Kind regards,
Andrei
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Re: How can I see only the latest change log of packages before update ?

[The Wanderer]

On 2020-03-29 at 14:42, Anastasios Lisgaras wrote:

> On 3/24/20 3:46 AM, David Wright wrote:
>
>> Then you have to split the upgrade command into a download-only part
>> (-d in apt-get, and I assume it's the same in apt), and the installing
>> part itself (with no -d).
> 
>> man apt-listchanges says:
>> 
>> apt-listchanges [[options...]] {[--apt] | [package.deb...]}
>>   
>> 
>> so you have to give it the actual filename (after the download part,
>> of course), and not just the name of the package.
>> 
> 
> Okay, How can I do that for each upgradeable package ?

On my system, when I run

apt-get dist-upgrade

and say "yes" to the list of packages, the following things happen:

* apt-get downloads all the packages, but does not install them yet.
* apt-listchanges kicks in, automatically extracts and/or downloads the
  necessary changelogs for all the packages just downloaded, and
  presents just the new parts (relative to the already-installed
  package version).
* After I exit the pager which displays the changelogs, apt-listchanges
  gives me a prompt to confirm whether I want to continue the upgrade
  or not.
* If I say yes, the upgrade proceeds. If I say no, apt-listchanges
  aborts the upgrade process.

This sounds like exactly what you want, handled purely automatically. Do
you not get this behavior (or a comparable one) with apt-listchanges
installed on your system?

-- 
   The Wanderer

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one
persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all
progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw



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Re: network-manager takes 1-4 restarts in order to recognize and connect to already-configured wifi network, USB dongle NIC

[Andrei POPESCU]

On Du, 29 mar 20, 13:46:05, G.W. Haywood wrote:
> Hi there,
> 
> On Sat, 28 Mar 2020, Alan Tu wrote:
> 
> > ... "Debian testing" system ... network-manager 1.22.8-1. ...
> > # systemctl restart network-manager
> > After one to four times of this, eventually network-manager
> > establishes the network connection.
> 
> It seems to me that network-manager is only really useful for people
> with no more knowledge of their network configuration than the average
> Windows user. 

It's very convenient on a laptop switching between various wireless 
networks and has been quite reliable for me in the past years (don't 
even remember how many).

Kind regards,
Andrei
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Re: How can I see only the latest change log of packages before update ?

[Anastasios Lisgaras]

On 3/24/20 3:46 AM, David Wright wrote:
> Then you have to split the upgrade command into a download-only part
> (-d in apt-get, and I assume it's the same in apt), and the installing
> part itself (with no -d).

> man apt-listchanges says:
> 
> apt-listchanges [[options...]] {[--apt] | [package.deb...]}
>   
> 
> so you have to give it the actual filename (after the download part,
> of course), and not just the name of the package.
> 

Okay, How can I do that for each upgradeable package ?


If I run :
apt-get changelog bluetooth

I get all of this : https://termbin.com/xdp5
While the responsible GUI software of the updates shows *only the latest
changes* that come with the upgrade package :
https://i.imgur.com/KPmvF7F.png

How can I choose from "changelog" to see *only the latest* changes?

What I want to do in the end, is what the GUI system update software
does, but through my terminal :

1) https://i.imgur.com/eZPxWcw.png
2) https://i.imgur.com/RZYlAEC.png
3) https://i.imgur.com/KPmvF7F.png
4) https://i.imgur.com/k91Rtcu.png
5) https://i.imgur.com/Y1tmhUh.png
6) https://i.imgur.com/8dyGN76.png
7) https://i.imgur.com/fll5Irg.png

(The Signal messaging software I don't know why - unfortunately -
doesn't show it's change logs but I'll investigate that later.)

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Re: Memory Leaks or Mem. being misreported

[Reco]

Hi.

On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 07:48:38PM +0200, n...@dismail.de wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 07:04:36PM +0300, Reco wrote:
> > >  afirefox: After using an affected Firefox profile
> > 
> > Ok, let's breakdown it (left is aboot, right is afirefox).
> > Here we see about 2Gb of memory consumed:
> > 
> > MemFree:32124660 kB / MemFree:30144704 kB
> > 
> > Such discrepancy can be attributed, first, […]
> > 
> > Summing it up, it gives us 668382 kB of discrepancy. 
> > […]
> > So the big question is - where 650M of memory gone? My money is on
> > kernel modules. Maybe it's Intel's VideoRAM steal (don't know if AMD do
> > it the same way). Maybe it's some proprietary kernel module.
> > 
> > I know no way of accounting memory usage of kernel module, but I can
> > spot some possible candidates from "lsmod" output.
> 
> Thanks.
> Afaik there are no proprietary kernel modules in the default buster install 
> and 
> I did not install proprietary modules either. BUT I did install proprietary 
> firmware for the devices.

That's an important distinction here. Firmware does not eat RAM, modules
do.

> Here's the lsmod output 
> (while some programs are running in case that's relevant):

Ok, from the most possible offender to the least one:

> amdgpu   5373952  26
> snd_usb_audio 290816  0
> ledtrig_audio  16384  1 snd_hda_codec_generic
> cec49152  1 drm_kms_helper
> kvm_amd   114688  0
> r8169  90112  0

I'm not saying that you should poke'em with "modprobe -r" - unloading
these would be difficult if possible at all - I'm saying that a
bugreport is in order.

If possible, I'd test it headless - i.e. reboot with amdgpu blacklisted,
run firefox in TightVNC, watch the results. But that raises the question
whenever your rig will boot at all without the operational videocard, so
I'd put it into the "desperate measures" category.

Reco

Re: Memory Leaks or Mem. being misreported

[nito]

On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 07:04:36PM +0300, Reco wrote:
> >  afirefox: After using an affected Firefox profile
> 
> Ok, let's breakdown it (left is aboot, right is afirefox).
> Here we see about 2Gb of memory consumed:
> 
> MemFree:32124660 kB / MemFree:30144704 kB
> 
> Such discrepancy can be attributed, first, […]
> 
> Summing it up, it gives us 668382 kB of discrepancy. 
> […]
> So the big question is - where 650M of memory gone? My money is on
> kernel modules. Maybe it's Intel's VideoRAM steal (don't know if AMD do
> it the same way). Maybe it's some proprietary kernel module.
> 
> I know no way of accounting memory usage of kernel module, but I can
> spot some possible candidates from "lsmod" output.

Thanks.
Afaik there are no proprietary kernel modules in the default buster install and 
I did not install proprietary modules either. BUT I did install proprietary 
firmware for the devices.
First I only installed firmware-amd-graphics as it is necessary for XServer to 
work. But the same GPU was already present in my previous desktop system.
After I noticed the issue with memory I also installed in that order
 ·firmware-realtek for the ethernet controller
   (The controller does work without it, possibly not at full speed, but it 
works fast enough for my connection)
 ·amd64-microcode  for the CPU

But this does not seem to have made any difference. Beside these 3 package the 
only other installed package from non-free is a font-package.

Here's the lsmod output 
(while some programs are running in case that's relevant):

Module  Size  Used by
binfmt_misc24576  1
amdgpu   5373952  26
nls_ascii  16384  1
nls_cp437  20480  1
vfat   20480  1
fat86016  1 vfat
mfd_core   20480  1 amdgpu
gpu_sched  40960  1 amdgpu
i2c_algo_bit   16384  1 amdgpu
ttm   122880  1 amdgpu
snd_usb_audio 290816  0
drm_kms_helper245760  1 amdgpu
snd_hda_codec_realtek   126976  1
snd_hda_codec_generic98304  1 snd_hda_codec_realtek
ledtrig_audio  16384  1 snd_hda_codec_generic
snd_hda_codec_hdmi 73728  1
snd_hda_intel  53248  10
snd_intel_dspcfg   20480  1 snd_hda_intel
snd_hda_codec 163840  4 
snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec_realtek
snd_hda_core  102400  5 
snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_codec_realtek
snd_usbmidi_lib40960  1 snd_usb_audio
snd_rawmidi45056  1 snd_usbmidi_lib
snd_hwdep  16384  2 snd_usb_audio,snd_hda_codec
snd_pcm   131072  6 
snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_intel,snd_usb_audio,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_core
snd_timer  45056  2 snd_pcm
cec49152  1 drm_kms_helper
snd   102400  29 
snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hwdep,snd_hda_intel,snd_usb_audio,snd_usbmidi_lib,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_timer,snd_pcm,snd_rawmidi
drm   581632  17 gpu_sched,drm_kms_helper,amdgpu,ttm
mc 57344  1 snd_usb_audio
kvm_amd   114688  0
kvm   806912  1 kvm_amd
eeepc_wmi  16384  0
irqbypass  16384  1 kvm
asus_wmi   40960  1 eeepc_wmi
battery20480  1 asus_wmi
pcspkr 16384  0
sparse_keymap  16384  1 asus_wmi
video  53248  1 asus_wmi
crct10dif_pclmul   16384  1
crc32_pclmul   16384  0
soundcore  16384  1 snd
rfkill 28672  2 asus_wmi
ghash_clmulni_intel16384  0
aesni_intel   368640  0
ccp   106496  1 kvm_amd
sp5100_tco 20480  0
glue_helper16384  1 aesni_intel
crypto_simd16384  1 aesni_intel
cryptd 24576  2 crypto_simd,ghash_clmulni_intel
evdev  28672  15
k10temp16384  0
rng_core   16384  1 ccp
watchdog   28672  1 sp5100_tco
wmi_bmof   16384  0
sg 36864  0
efi_pstore 16384  0
efivars20480  1 efi_pstore
wmi36864  2 asus_wmi,wmi_bmof
acpi_cpufreq   28672  0
button 24576  0
parport_pc 32768  0
ppdev  24576  0
lp 20480  0
parport61440  3 parport_pc,lp,ppdev
efivarfs   16384  1
ip_tables  32768  0
x_tables   53248  1 ip_tables
autofs453248  2
ext4  770048  3
crc32c_generic 16384  0
crc16  16384  1 ext4
mbcache16384  1 ext4
jbd2  139264  1 ext4
sd_mod 57344  5
hid_generic16384  0
usbhid 65536  0
hid   139264  2 usbhid,hid_generic
sr_mod 28672  0
cdrom  

Re: fetchmail timeout (fwd)

[mick crane]

On 2020-03-29 13:24, Reco wrote:


On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 01:46:12PM +0200, Pierre Frenkiel wrote:

Mike fetchmail, getmail gives a Time Out


OP
did you select "allow non-standard email client" or whatever it is at 
gmail ?

use SimpleIMAPSSLReciever ?

[retriever]
type=SimpleIMAPSSLRetriever
server = imap.gmail.com
username = 
password = X
[destination]
type = MDA_external
path = /usr/lib/dovecot/deliver
[options]
verbose = 0
delete = true
message_log = ~/.getmail/log

mick
--
Key ID4BFEBB31

Re: Unknown Package name

[John Hasler]

Dave writes:
> I am trying to submit a bug report - but as a novice, I do not know
> what "package" to report in the ReportBug program.

Bluez (but send the bug report to Raspbian, not Debian).  The
maintainers will sort it out if it's actually one of the libraries.
-- 
John Hasler 
jhas...@newsguy.com
Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Memory Leaks or Mem. being misreported

[Reco]

Hi.

On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 05:06:01PM +0200, n...@dismail.de wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 05:10:07PM +0300, Reco wrote: 
> > /proc/meminfo (please *do not soft* it), and the output of slabtop.
> > If you're need to understand where all that memory gone - you're in need
> > of proper tools.
> 
> I have saved the output of slabtop and /proc/meminfo for:
>  aboot: Directly after booting and logging into a graphical i3-session

Nothing to see here, but a good baseline.

>  afirefox: After using an affected Firefox profile

Ok, let's breakdown it (left is aboot, right is afirefox).
Here we see about 2Gb of memory consumed:

MemFree:32124660 kB / MemFree:30144704 kB

Such discrepancy can be attributed, first, to the difference in Active
and Inactive memory pages:

  Active:   216940 kB / 766788 kB
  Inactive: 178292 kB / 676072 kB

With the most contribution is given by file-backed memory pages (i.e.
filesystem cache):

  Active(file):  94220 kB / 589536 kB
  Inactive(file):   167528 kB / 665180 kB

Which gives us 992988 kB difference of 1979956 kB.

And we see some miniscule tmpfs usage (54532 kB):

Active(anon): 122720 kB / Active(anon): 177252 kB
Inactive(anon):10892 kB / Inactive(anon):10764 kB


Second, assorted kernel structures (KReclaim - WritebackTmp per meminfo)
give us 155694 kB.

Third, assorted processes (AnonPages + Mapped + AnonHugePages) give us
another 108360 kB.


> In all cases only some daemons, X-Server, i3 and one or two terminals were 
> running.
> htop and free were reporting memory usage as around 450MiB for aboot and 
> afill-* 
> and around 1,3GiB for afirefox.

Summing it up, it gives us 668382 kB of discrepancy. Note that both htop
and free blatantly lied about actual memory usage, sweetening the deal
for about 350M.



>  afill-alloc: After afirefox and running a simple C program that allocates 
>   almost all of the total physical memory
>  afill-alloc+swaponoff: After afill-alloc and swapoff and swapon.

Too lazy to write it up, I leave it as an exercise to another reader.


So the big question is - where 650M of memory gone? My money is on
kernel modules. Maybe it's Intel's VideoRAM steal (don't know if AMD do
it the same way). Maybe it's some proprietary kernel module.

I know no way of accounting memory usage of kernel module, but I can
spot some possible candidates from "lsmod" output.

Reco

Unknown Package name

[david.donnelly]

Good Day,
  Yesterday (28 Mar 2020), I updated my Raspberry Pi 4 running Raspbian
Buster and only three files were installed:  

bluez
libbluetooth3
libicu63

Prior to these files being installed, both my Bluetooth keyboard and mouse
functioned normally.  Once the three files were installed and the system
rebooted, the Bluetooth keyboard and mouse stopped working.

I am able to repeat the problem.  Hence and have confirmed others are having
this issue.

I am trying to submit a bug report - but as a novice, I do not know what
"package" to report in the ReportBug program.

Your help pls.
Thank you,
Dave


Scanned by McAfee and confirmed virus-free. 
Find out more here: https://bit.ly/2zCJMrO

Re: Casting handlheld devices on non-smart TV

[Dan Ritter]

john doe wrote: 
> 
> Why can it not be a wireless HDMI between my cell and my TV, basically
> the equivalent of my laptop being connected via HDMI to my TV! :)

Sure, you can get that. A transmitter/receiver pair will cost
about $250, and you'll need to make sure your cellphone has an
HDMI out. Most don't. Some do, via an MHL-HDMI cable.

-dsr-

Re: Memory Leaks or Mem. being misreported

[nito]

On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 05:10:07PM +0300, Reco wrote: 
> /proc/meminfo (please *do not soft* it), and the output of slabtop.
> If you're need to understand where all that memory gone - you're in need
> of proper tools.

I have saved the output of slabtop and /proc/meminfo for:
 aboot: Directly after booting and logging into a graphical i3-session
 afirefox: After using an affected Firefox profile
 afill-alloc: After afirefox and running a simple C program that allocates 
  almost all of the total physical memory
 afill-alloc+swaponoff: After afill-alloc and swapoff and swapon.
In all cases only some daemons, X-Server, i3 and one or two terminals were 
running.
htop and free were reporting memory usage as around 450MiB for aboot and 
afill-* 
and around 1,3GiB for afirefox.

I've read the part about meminfo here 
https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/filesystems/proc.txt
but I'm not experienced enough to tell if anything/what in the meminfo output 
is unusual.
For reference: htop calculates the memory usage from /proc/meminfo like this:
  Cached memory   = Cached + SReclaimable - Shmem
  Non cache/buffer memory = MemTotal - MemFree - (Buffers + 'Cached memory')
  Swap= SwapTotal - SwapFree

As they are rather lengthy and there are 4 of them, I attached the output of 
the 
commands to this email. According to the mailing list guidelines  large  
attachments should be avoided, but since they are in total 68K and compressed 
just 8K this should probably be fine.
If the attachment doesn't work I can resend it in the mail body.

Nils



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Re: Unsolvable dependency problems around libc / libcrypt on debian testing/bullseye

[Martin]

On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 at 13:33, Andrei POPESCU  wrote:
>
> So you have a multiarch (amd64 and i386) system, with amd64 repositories
> for Skype and Docker.
>
> Why do you need i386? I'm guessing you might have some locally installed
> packages as well. Please show also the output of
>
> aptitude search '~o'
> aptitude search '~b'

I would not bot able to answer it, maybe the scanner driver. I do use
skype and docker. Anyway, here the output:

 sudo aptitude search '~o'
Warning: Invalid locale (please review locale settings, this might
lead to problems later):
  locale::facet::_S_create_c_locale name not valid
i   libapt-inst2.0  - deb
package format runtime library
i   libapt-pkg5.0   -
package management runtime library
i   libdns-export1104   -
Exported DNS Shared Library
i   libip4tc0   -
netfilter libip4tc library
i   libip6tc0   -
netfilter libip6tc library
i   libisc-export1100   -
Exported ISC Shared Library
i   libjson-c3  - JSON
manipulation library - shared library
i   libprocps7  -
library for accessing process information from /proc
i   libreadline7- GNU
readline and history libraries, run-time libraries
i A linux-image-5.2.0-3-amd64   -
Linux 5.2 for 64-bit PCs (signed)
i   net.downloadhelper.coapp-
Video DownloadHelper companion app
i   perl-modules-5.28   - Core
Perl modules
i   scangearmp-common   -
ScanGear MP for Linux.
i   scangearmp-mg2500series -
ScanGear MP for Linux.

sudo aptitude search '~b'
Warning: Invalid locale (please review locale settings, this might
lead to problems later):
  locale::facet::_S_create_c_locale name not valid

downloadhelper is part of a firefox extension.
"locale" is one of the packages that is currently broken (update:
could reinstall and it is working now)

>
> > Pinned packages:
> >  libpython3.8-minimal -> 3.8.2-1 with priority -3
> >  libcrypt1 -> 1:4.4.15-1 with priority -3
> >  libcrypt1:i386 -> 1:4.4.15-1 with priority -3
> >  powertop -> 2.10-1+b1 with priority 3
> >  openssh-server -> 1:8.1p1-1 with priority 3
> >  grub-efi-amd64 -> 2.04-3 with priority 3
> >  isc-dhcp-client -> 4.4.1-2 with priority 3
>
> Why did you add these pins?

When I did the upgrade (the big one after 4 months) apt-listbugs
warned about a number of bugs and I felt safer to pin those packages.

>
> > I tried to unpin these packages:
> >
> > sudo apt-mark unhold libcrypt1
>
> Pins are not holds...

Thank you, this was not obvious to me. I now deleted the pins from
/etc/apt/preferences.d/apt-listbugs and rerun update+upgrade and that
seems to have fixed my problems.
\o/

>
> Your system is a... complex mixture that is very easy to break.

You refer to my apt policy I assume and/or my apt sources list? I
would be happy to simplify it. In my sources.list I now only have
unstable:

deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ unstable main non-free contrib
deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian/ unstable main non-free contrib

For my apt preferences I had:

Package: *
Pin: release a=testing
Pin-Priority: 650

Package: *
Pin: release a=unstable
Pin-Priority: 600

To be honest back in the day when I did that, I struggled to really
understand it. My intention was to have the system take packages from
unstable and if a package is not available there then from testing.
Does it even do that?
Thank you a lot for your help!

Marty

Re: cracking sound from left channel

[Bhasker C V]

The problem however comes back when i suspend and resume. I have a
written a systemd thingy to remove the module and reload it during
resume and it fixes the problem for now ...
Still no joy.

On 3/29/20, Bhasker C V  wrote:
> Dear Dan,
>
> I came across a website which said to use the index parameter
> Hence I create this in /etc/modprobe.d/snd_amd.conf
> with content
>
> options snd_hda_intel power_save=1 index=1,0
>
> The sound is infintely better now and there is no more fluttering
> sound and no leaking of right channel into left which had caused the
> distructive interference like audio.
> Thanks
>
> On 3/28/20, Dan Ritter  wrote:
>> Bhasker C V wrote:
>>> Thanks Dan,
>>> The audio cracking comes up only after a suspend resume or reboot when
>>> done on its own
>>> If I boot into windows, reboot the system (without switchoff) into
>>> linux, the sound is fine. The next time i reboot into linux the issue
>>> comes back.
>>>
>>> The sound is as if the speaker paper of an old speaker is torn. The
>>> fluttering sound when there is high bass on the headphones. The sound is
>>> clear
>>> and fine when on windows and when on linux when immediately booted after
>>> windows.
>>>
>>> This to my limited knowledge feels like windows writes something to the
>>> config registers or downloads a firmware which makes sound card work
>>> fine but then when cold booted into linux, linux is missing to do
>>> something. ... may be I am wrong.
>>
>> I would guess that Windows is setting internal mixer parameters
>> differently.
>>
>> Try killing pulseaudio, running alsamixer, and seeing if you can
>> change the behavior with any of the available switches or
>> internal mutes.
>>
>> -dsr-
>>
>

Re: cracking sound from left channel

[Bhasker C V]

Dear Dan,

I came across a website which said to use the index parameter
Hence I create this in /etc/modprobe.d/snd_amd.conf
with content

options snd_hda_intel power_save=1 index=1,0

The sound is infintely better now and there is no more fluttering
sound and no leaking of right channel into left which had caused the
distructive interference like audio.
Thanks

On 3/28/20, Dan Ritter  wrote:
> Bhasker C V wrote:
>> Thanks Dan,
>> The audio cracking comes up only after a suspend resume or reboot when
>> done on its own
>> If I boot into windows, reboot the system (without switchoff) into
>> linux, the sound is fine. The next time i reboot into linux the issue
>> comes back.
>>
>> The sound is as if the speaker paper of an old speaker is torn. The
>> fluttering sound when there is high bass on the headphones. The sound is
>> clear
>> and fine when on windows and when on linux when immediately booted after
>> windows.
>>
>> This to my limited knowledge feels like windows writes something to the
>> config registers or downloads a firmware which makes sound card work
>> fine but then when cold booted into linux, linux is missing to do
>> something. ... may be I am wrong.
>
> I would guess that Windows is setting internal mixer parameters
> differently.
>
> Try killing pulseaudio, running alsamixer, and seeing if you can
> change the behavior with any of the available switches or
> internal mutes.
>
> -dsr-
>

Re: network-manager takes 1-4 restarts in order to recognize and connect to already-configured wifi network, USB dongle NIC

[G.W. Haywood]

Hi there,

On Sat, 28 Mar 2020, Alan Tu wrote:


... "Debian testing" system ... network-manager 1.22.8-1. ...
# systemctl restart network-manager
After one to four times of this, eventually network-manager
establishes the network connection.


It seems to me that network-manager is only really useful for people
with no more knowledge of their network configuration than the average
Windows user.  If you have already configured your network connections
I guess that you know more about your networks than that (very likely
more than the authors of network-manager too).  Therefore it can do
little but harm to allow network-manager to get itself involved.

My networks tend to be slightly more complex than most, but it is only
slightly.  Even so, I have yet to find network-manager does anything
except cause trouble.  I see much ire directed toward systemd but IMHO
network-manager deserves more.  For probably the past decade it's been
the amongst the first things that I'll purge from a freshly installed
Debian system.

Seting up a simple network really isn't at all difficult.  You have to
pick sane IP addresses and network masks for your interfaces, script
them and a few routes, and perhaps load a module or two to get the
interfaces running if that doesn't happen by default in the gargantuan
Debian kernels.  Wireless networks can be a bit more complex but every
operation is a simple one-liner, and, for twenty-five years, even in
the most complex networks that I've worked with, I don't think I've
ever needed more than a dozen lines in rc.local to set up networking
for any of a couple of hundred machines.  It's _much_ easier to learn
how to set up your network than it is to find out what network-manager
has done to screw things up; and when you have that basic knowledge
under your belt it's a great deal easier to find out what's gone wrong
when it does (for example when you rashly type 'apt-get dist-upgrade'
which the past three or four times has, each time I've done it, broken
increasingly badly most systems that I've done it to - apparently many
and misguided attempts to solve problems I've never actually had).

--

73,
Ged.

Re: Casting handlheld devices on non-smart TV

[john doe]

On 3/29/2020 2:37 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Du, 29 mar 20, 13:48:52, john doe wrote:
>> On 3/29/2020 1:09 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
>>>
>>> This will involve finding a supported SBC, installing Debian, installing
>>> supporting apps on the smartphone(s) and hope it all works nicely
>>> together.
>>
>> Do you have an example of those supported apps on the smartphone?
>
> According to my Play Store library I was using BubbleUPnP.
>
> With it I can "share" videos from the YouTube app on my phone to have
> them play on my Android box. It works also to play stuff from the phone
> on the TV.
>
> Unfortunately with Kodi as destination the audio is not in sync, if I
> use the box's built-in DLNA support it's much better.
>
> As far as I know / understand none of the major streaming services (HBO
> GO, Netflix, Amazon Prime, etc.) have support for DLNA, only Google
> Cast.
>

Thanks, I'll look into that.

Why can it not be a wireless HDMI between my cell and my TV, basically
the equivalent of my laptop being connected via HDMI to my TV! :)

--
John Doe

Re: Casting handlheld devices on non-smart TV

[Andrei POPESCU]

On Du, 29 mar 20, 13:48:52, john doe wrote:
> On 3/29/2020 1:09 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> >
> > This will involve finding a supported SBC, installing Debian, installing
> > supporting apps on the smartphone(s) and hope it all works nicely
> > together.
> 
> Do you have an example of those supported apps on the smartphone?

According to my Play Store library I was using BubbleUPnP.

With it I can "share" videos from the YouTube app on my phone to have 
them play on my Android box. It works also to play stuff from the phone 
on the TV.

Unfortunately with Kodi as destination the audio is not in sync, if I 
use the box's built-in DLNA support it's much better.

As far as I know / understand none of the major streaming services (HBO 
GO, Netflix, Amazon Prime, etc.) have support for DLNA, only Google 
Cast.

Kind regards,
Andrei
-- 
http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser


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Re: fetchmail timeout (fwd)

[Reco]

Please CC the list. And please refrain from top posting.

On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 01:46:12PM +0200, Pierre Frenkiel wrote:
> Mike fetchmail, getmail gives a Time Out


Two options left.

> >1) Try using POP3 instead of IMAP.
> >
> >3) Make a forward to your gmx mailbox from gmail.

Reco

Re: Best practice regarding Ruby gems installation on Buster

[Alex Mestiashvili]

> 28 mars 2020 à 18:18 de ames...@rsh2.donotuse.de:
> 
>> In order to avoid messing up packages and system in general one should
>> never install modules/packages/whatever as root into system locations.
>> Most of sane languages provide a way to install modules into home
>> directory and usually these locations have higher precedence when
>> loading modules or one can tell the language to load the modules from
>> the defined location first.
>> I don't know about Ruby, but in Debian you get only a subset of all
>> possible modules for the language of your choice. And it is very likely
>> that in Debian stable they are old and even might be too old for some
>> specific software. So in my opinion the way to go is to use available
>> packages from Debian and install the missing one locally.
>>
> So you would suggest not to mess with Debian ruby gems (except updating them 
> through their corresponding packages with 'apt update' sometimes) and install 
> those that don't have any package on Debian ecosystem for the local user only?

Exactly. If needed you can of course install them system wide, but
somewhere in /usr/local for example so they don't overlap with existing
structure for Debian packages. But see dh-make-ruby first if you'd like
to go this way.

> If true, I think this is the goal of the following command:
> $ gem install --user-install GEMNAME

Looks good, but since I don't use ruby I can't tell you exactly.

> 
> So when I want to install a ruby gem, my reflex should be first to verify if 
> Debian already provides it in one of its packages?
> * If Debian provides the gem and its (probably old) version fits my need => 
> install the Debian package ('apt install')
> * If Debian provides the gem but I want a brand new version OR if Debian 
> doesn't provide the gem at all => install the gem ('gem install 
> --user-install')
> It makes sense?

That's what I would do. However the second option is more complicated. A
dependency of a package will be installed even if you would like to have
more recent gem. Which mean that you might end up in a situation where
the same rubygem comes from Debian and locally as more up-to-date
version. But in this case the local version should have higher
precedence for local projects.

Ruby also provides rvm - Ruby Version Manager, in some cases it totally
make sense to start with a self-contained envs. After all it all depends
on what you'd like to do, but using sudo to overwrite modules in system
locations is plain wrong in my opinion and breaks the system.


>> Regarding the security of the packages in Debian stable, if the package
>> has a known vulnerability it is very likely that the security team will
>> take care and fix the package. So this is not an issue.
>>
> Ok, I get it now with Andrei's answer as well.
> I thought initially that Debian only provides ruby engine/framework, not 
> packages containing ruby code as well ;)

There are many packages using ruby and it's modules, so if a software
package depends on some ruby gems, they need to be packaged too.
But that's the cool thing about Debian and binary packages, one can
simply run apt-get install to get a complicated software installed.

> 
> Best regards,
> l0f4r0
> 

Best,
Alex

Re: Casting handlheld devices on non-smart TV

[john doe]

On 3/29/2020 1:09 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Du, 29 mar 20, 12:28:07, john doe wrote:
>> Debians,
>>
>> I would like to cast the sound and image of my smartphone and alike
>> devices to my old TV.
>>
>> My wireless cellphones and tablets are connected in wifi to my network
>> but my TV is not connected to my network (too old), so I'm looking for a
>> way to bridge the two together.
>>
>> Do you have any recommendation on what fanless hardware and software I
>> could use to do that?
>
> Since this is a Debian list I would recommend some single board computer
> with Kodi.
>
> This will involve finding a supported SBC, installing Debian, installing
> supporting apps on the smartphone(s) and hope it all works nicely
> together.
>

Do you have an example of those supported apps on the smartphone?

> The non-Debian alternative would be to use a Google Chromecast.
>
> See also
> https://www.howtogeek.com/177145/wireless-display-standards-explained-airplay-miracast-widi-chromecast-and-dlna/
>
> Kind regards,

Thanks for your answer, much appriciated.

--
John Doe

Re: Unsolvable dependency problems around libc / libcrypt on debian testing/bullseye

[Andrei POPESCU]

On Du, 29 mar 20, 12:37:39, Martin wrote:
> 
> Here is apt policy:
> 
> Package files:
>  100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
>  release a=now
>  500 https://repo.skype.com/deb stable/main amd64 Packages
>  release o=. stable,a=stable,n=stable,l=. stable,c=main,b=amd64
>  origin repo.skype.com
>  600 http://deb.debian.org/debian unstable/contrib i386 Packages
>  release o=Debian,a=unstable,n=sid,l=Debian,c=contrib,b=i386
>  origin deb.debian.org
>  600 http://deb.debian.org/debian unstable/contrib amd64 Packages
>  release o=Debian,a=unstable,n=sid,l=Debian,c=contrib,b=amd64
>  origin deb.debian.org
>  600 http://deb.debian.org/debian unstable/non-free i386 Packages
>  release o=Debian,a=unstable,n=sid,l=Debian,c=non-free,b=i386
>  origin deb.debian.org
>  600 http://deb.debian.org/debian unstable/non-free amd64 Packages
>  release o=Debian,a=unstable,n=sid,l=Debian,c=non-free,b=amd64
>  origin deb.debian.org
>  600 http://deb.debian.org/debian unstable/main i386 Packages
>  release o=Debian,a=unstable,n=sid,l=Debian,c=main,b=i386
>  origin deb.debian.org
>  600 http://deb.debian.org/debian unstable/main amd64 Packages
>  release o=Debian,a=unstable,n=sid,l=Debian,c=main,b=amd64
>  origin deb.debian.org
>  650 http://deb.debian.org/debian testing/contrib i386 Packages
>  release o=Debian,a=testing,n=bullseye,l=Debian,c=contrib,b=i386
>  origin deb.debian.org
>  650 http://deb.debian.org/debian testing/contrib amd64 Packages
>  release o=Debian,a=testing,n=bullseye,l=Debian,c=contrib,b=amd64
>  origin deb.debian.org
>  650 http://deb.debian.org/debian testing/non-free i386 Packages
>  release o=Debian,a=testing,n=bullseye,l=Debian,c=non-free,b=i386
>  origin deb.debian.org
>  650 http://deb.debian.org/debian testing/non-free amd64 Packages
>  release o=Debian,a=testing,n=bullseye,l=Debian,c=non-free,b=amd64
>  origin deb.debian.org
>  650 http://deb.debian.org/debian testing/main i386 Packages
>  release o=Debian,a=testing,n=bullseye,l=Debian,c=main,b=i386
>  origin deb.debian.org
>  650 http://deb.debian.org/debian testing/main amd64 Packages
>  release o=Debian,a=testing,n=bullseye,l=Debian,c=main,b=amd64
>  origin deb.debian.org
>  500 https://download.docker.com/linux/debian buster/stable amd64 Packages
>  release o=Docker,a=buster,l=Docker CE,c=stable,b=amd64
>  origin download.docker.com

So you have a multiarch (amd64 and i386) system, with amd64 repositories 
for Skype and Docker.

Why do you need i386? I'm guessing you might have some locally installed 
packages as well. Please show also the output of

aptitude search '~o'
aptitude search '~b'

> Pinned packages:
>  libpython3.8-minimal -> 3.8.2-1 with priority -3
>  libcrypt1 -> 1:4.4.15-1 with priority -3
>  libcrypt1:i386 -> 1:4.4.15-1 with priority -3
>  powertop -> 2.10-1+b1 with priority 3
>  openssh-server -> 1:8.1p1-1 with priority 3
>  grub-efi-amd64 -> 2.04-3 with priority 3
>  isc-dhcp-client -> 4.4.1-2 with priority 3

Why did you add these pins?

> I tried to unpin these packages:
> 
> sudo apt-mark unhold libcrypt1

Pins are not holds...

Your system is a... complex mixture that is very easy to break.

Kind regards,
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Re: Casting handlheld devices on non-smart TV

[Andrei POPESCU]

On Du, 29 mar 20, 12:28:07, john doe wrote:
> Debians,
> 
> I would like to cast the sound and image of my smartphone and alike
> devices to my old TV.
> 
> My wireless cellphones and tablets are connected in wifi to my network
> but my TV is not connected to my network (too old), so I'm looking for a
> way to bridge the two together.
> 
> Do you have any recommendation on what fanless hardware and software I
> could use to do that?

Since this is a Debian list I would recommend some single board computer 
with Kodi.

This will involve finding a supported SBC, installing Debian, installing 
supporting apps on the smartphone(s) and hope it all works nicely 
together.

The non-Debian alternative would be to use a Google Chromecast.

See also
https://www.howtogeek.com/177145/wireless-display-standards-explained-airplay-miracast-widi-chromecast-and-dlna/

Kind regards,
Andrei
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Re: Unsolvable dependency problems around libc / libcrypt on debian testing/bullseye

[Martin]

I commented out the testing repository in my apt sources list and ran
apt update/upgrade/clean/autoremove. It helped e.g. with updating
firefox from 69 to 74 but other packages are still stuck.

apt list --upgradable

libc-bin/unstable 2.30-4 amd64 [upgradable from: 2.29-2]
libc6/unstable 2.30-4 amd64 [upgradable from: 2.29-2]
libc6/unstable 2.30-4 i386 [upgradable from: 2.29-2]
libpam-systemd/unstable 245.2-1 amd64 [upgradable from: 244.3-1]
libruby2.5/unstable 2.5.7-1+b1 amd64 [upgradable from: 2.5.7-1]
libselinux1/unstable 3.0-1+b2 amd64 [upgradable from: 3.0-1+b1]
libsystemd0/unstable 245.2-1 amd64 [upgradable from: 244.3-1]
libudev1/unstable 245.2-1 amd64 [upgradable from: 244.3-1]
login/unstable 1:4.8.1-1 amd64 [upgradable from: 1:4.7-2]
passwd/unstable 1:4.8.1-1 amd64 [upgradable from: 1:4.7-2]
ruby-debian/unstable 0.3.10+b3 amd64 [upgradable from: 0.3.10+b2]
ruby-sqlite3/unstable 1.4.2-2+b2 amd64 [upgradable from: 1.4.2-2+b1]
ruby-unf-ext/unstable 0.0.7.6-1+b2 amd64 [upgradable from: 0.0.7.6-1+b1]
ruby-unicode/unstable 0.4.4-2+b11 amd64 [upgradable from: 0.4.4-2+b10]
ruby-xmlparser/unstable 0.7.3-3+b4 amd64 [upgradable from: 0.7.3-3+b3]
ruby/unstable 1:2.7 amd64 [upgradable from: 1:2.5.7.1]
shim-unsigned/unstable 15+1533136590.3beb971-8 amd64 [upgradable from:
15+1533136590.3beb971-7]
systemd/unstable 245.2-1 amd64 [upgradable from: 244.3-1]
udev/unstable 245.2-1 amd64 [upgradable from: 244.3-1]
whois/unstable 5.5.6 amd64 [upgradable from: 5.5.2]

On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 at 07:56, Andrei POPESCU  wrote:
>
> On Sb, 28 mar 20, 23:59:17, Martin wrote:
> >
> > I have a debian bullseye/testing machine on a 2017 HP i7 machine that
> > I used daily for many months but was not running since end of November
> > 2019. I upgraded everything with apt update + dist-upgrade +
> > autoremove + clean this week.
>
> [...]
>
> > This is my apt sources list:
> >
> > deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ testing main non-free contrib
> > deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian/ testing main non-free contrib
> > deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ unstable main non-free contrib
> > deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian/ unstable main non-free contrib
>
> With this sources list you appear to be running unstable, not testing.
>
> Please show also the output of 'apt policy'.
>
> Kind regards,
> Andrei
> --
> http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser

Re: Unsolvable dependency problems around libc / libcrypt on debian testing/bullseye

[Martin]

Hello Andrei,

thank you for your time!

> With this sources list you appear to be running unstable, not testing.
> Please show also the output of 'apt policy'.
>

sorry, yes I am usually happy to be on "unstable".

Here is apt policy:

Package files:
 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
 release a=now
 500 https://repo.skype.com/deb stable/main amd64 Packages
 release o=. stable,a=stable,n=stable,l=. stable,c=main,b=amd64
 origin repo.skype.com
 600 http://deb.debian.org/debian unstable/contrib i386 Packages
 release o=Debian,a=unstable,n=sid,l=Debian,c=contrib,b=i386
 origin deb.debian.org
 600 http://deb.debian.org/debian unstable/contrib amd64 Packages
 release o=Debian,a=unstable,n=sid,l=Debian,c=contrib,b=amd64
 origin deb.debian.org
 600 http://deb.debian.org/debian unstable/non-free i386 Packages
 release o=Debian,a=unstable,n=sid,l=Debian,c=non-free,b=i386
 origin deb.debian.org
 600 http://deb.debian.org/debian unstable/non-free amd64 Packages
 release o=Debian,a=unstable,n=sid,l=Debian,c=non-free,b=amd64
 origin deb.debian.org
 600 http://deb.debian.org/debian unstable/main i386 Packages
 release o=Debian,a=unstable,n=sid,l=Debian,c=main,b=i386
 origin deb.debian.org
 600 http://deb.debian.org/debian unstable/main amd64 Packages
 release o=Debian,a=unstable,n=sid,l=Debian,c=main,b=amd64
 origin deb.debian.org
 650 http://deb.debian.org/debian testing/contrib i386 Packages
 release o=Debian,a=testing,n=bullseye,l=Debian,c=contrib,b=i386
 origin deb.debian.org
 650 http://deb.debian.org/debian testing/contrib amd64 Packages
 release o=Debian,a=testing,n=bullseye,l=Debian,c=contrib,b=amd64
 origin deb.debian.org
 650 http://deb.debian.org/debian testing/non-free i386 Packages
 release o=Debian,a=testing,n=bullseye,l=Debian,c=non-free,b=i386
 origin deb.debian.org
 650 http://deb.debian.org/debian testing/non-free amd64 Packages
 release o=Debian,a=testing,n=bullseye,l=Debian,c=non-free,b=amd64
 origin deb.debian.org
 650 http://deb.debian.org/debian testing/main i386 Packages
 release o=Debian,a=testing,n=bullseye,l=Debian,c=main,b=i386
 origin deb.debian.org
 650 http://deb.debian.org/debian testing/main amd64 Packages
 release o=Debian,a=testing,n=bullseye,l=Debian,c=main,b=amd64
 origin deb.debian.org
 500 https://download.docker.com/linux/debian buster/stable amd64 Packages
 release o=Docker,a=buster,l=Docker CE,c=stable,b=amd64
 origin download.docker.com
Pinned packages:
 libpython3.8-minimal -> 3.8.2-1 with priority -3
 libcrypt1 -> 1:4.4.15-1 with priority -3
 libcrypt1:i386 -> 1:4.4.15-1 with priority -3
 powertop -> 2.10-1+b1 with priority 3
 openssh-server -> 1:8.1p1-1 with priority 3
 grub-efi-amd64 -> 2.04-3 with priority 3
 isc-dhcp-client -> 4.4.1-2 with priority 3


I tried to unpin these packages:

sudo apt-mark unhold libcrypt1


E: Can't select installed nor candidate version from package
'libcrypt1' as it has neither of them
E: No packages found

sudo -i
root@lemon:~# echo libcrypt1 install | dpkg --set-selections
dpkg: warning: package not in status nor available database at line 1: libcrypt1
dpkg: warning: found unknown packages; this might mean the available database
is outdated, and needs to be updated through a frontend method;
please see the FAQ 

Running apt update makes no difference to that.

Best regards,
Marty

On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 at 07:56, Andrei POPESCU  wrote:
>
> On Sb, 28 mar 20, 23:59:17, Martin wrote:
> >
> > I have a debian bullseye/testing machine on a 2017 HP i7 machine that
> > I used daily for many months but was not running since end of November
> > 2019. I upgraded everything with apt update + dist-upgrade +
> > autoremove + clean this week.
>
> [...]
>
> > This is my apt sources list:
> >
> > deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ testing main non-free contrib
> > deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian/ testing main non-free contrib
> > deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ unstable main non-free contrib
> > deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian/ unstable main non-free contrib
>
> With this sources list you appear to be running unstable, not testing.
>
> Please show also the output of 'apt policy'.
>
> Kind regards,
> Andrei
> --
> http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser

Re: fetchmail timeout (fwd)

[Reco]

Hi.

On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 10:06:19AM +0200, Pierre Frenkiel wrote:
> as requested, here is the output of fetchmail -v

So, login's good:

> fetchmail: IMAP> A0002 LOGIN "pierre.frenkiel" *
> fetchmail: IMAP< * CAPABILITY IMAP4rev1 UNSELECT IDLE NAMESPACE QUOTA ID 
> XLIST CHILDREN X-GM-EXT-1 UIDPLUS COMPRESS=DEFLATE ENABLE MOVE CONDSTORE 
> ESEARCH UTF8=ACCEPT LIST-EXTENDED LIST-STATUS LITERAL- SPECIAL-USE 
> APPENDLIMIT=35651584
> fetchmail: IMAP< A0002 OK pierre.frenk...@gmail.com authenticated (Success)

Mail sizes fetched:

...
> fetchmail: IMAP< * 100 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 12783)
> fetchmail: IMAP< A0005 OK Success
> fetchmail: IMAP> A0006 FETCH 1 RFC822.HEADER

And here lies an anomaly - then requested mail headers:

> fetchmail: IMAP< * 1 FETCH (RFC822.HEADER {3040}
> fetchmail: reading message pierre.frenk...@imap.gmail.com:1 of 211 (3040 
> header octets) (log message incomplete)
> fetchmail: IMAP< )
> fetchmail: IMAP< A0006 OK Success

Gmail returned exactly zero rows (there should've been headers before
"IMAP< )").
Whichever is broken is broken on their side, not yours.


> fetchmail: IMAP> A0007 FETCH 1 BODY.PEEK[TEXT]
> fetchmail: IMAP< A0007 NO System Error (Failure)

No surprise it bailed on attempt to retrieve mail body.


I see three options here:

1) Try using POP3 instead of IMAP.

2) Replace fetchmail with getmail.

3) Make a forward to your gmx mailbox from gmail.

Reco

Casting handlheld devices on non-smart TV

[john doe]

Debians,

I would like to cast the sound and image of my smartphone and alike
devices to my old TV.

My wireless cellphones and tablets are connected in wifi to my network
but my TV is not connected to my network (too old), so I'm looking for a
way to bridge the two together.

Do you have any recommendation on what fanless hardware and software I
could use to do that?

--
John Doe

Re: fetchmail timeout (fwd)

[Kamil Jońca]

Pierre Frenkiel  writes:

> as requested, here is the output of fetchmail -v
> you can see at the end "reading message ...", but I can't find it
>
>  please reply pierre.frenk...@gmx.com
>
[...]
> fetchmail: IMAP> A0004 EXPUNGE
> fetchmail: IMAP< A0004 OK Success
> fetchmail: 211 messages for pierre.frenkiel at imap.gmail.com.
> fetchmail: IMAP> A0005 FETCH 1:100 RFC822.SIZE
[...]
> fetchmail: IMAP< A0005 OK Success
> fetchmail: IMAP> A0006 FETCH 1 RFC822.HEADER
> fetchmail: IMAP< * 1 FETCH (RFC822.HEADER {3040}
> fetchmail: reading message pierre.frenk...@imap.gmail.com:1 of 211 (3040 
> header octets) (log message incomplete)
> fetchmail: IMAP< )
> fetchmail: IMAP< A0006 OK Success
> fetchmail: IMAP> A0007 FETCH 1 BODY.PEEK[TEXT]
> fetchmail: IMAP< A0007 NO System Error (Failure)
> best regards,

Can you use imap with another client? (mutt/thunderbird). It seems, that
gmail let you to logi, get message list, but then is timeout at first
message body. I'd ask gmail help now.


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Re: fetchmail timeout

[tomas]

On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 06:35:04PM +0100, Pierre Frenkiel wrote:
> hi,
> I have the following problem with fetchmail:
> fetchmail: timeout after 300 seconds waiting for server imap.gmail.com.
> here is my .fetchmailrc

If I followed correctly, you're trying to access gmail at
the "traditional" imap port (that's 143). There is nobody
there answering the calls. Try imaps (i.e. 993), either through
fetchmail's option "-P 993" or "--service imaps".

Perhaps you'll have to play with options --ssl (and possibly
with --sslproto, although that's improbable). See manpage.

And, oh, I agree with the others. Try to avoid Google as
your mail provider.

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Re: fetchmail timeout (fwd)

[mick crane]

On 2020-03-29 09:06, Pierre Frenkiel wrote:

as requested, here is the output of fetchmail -v
you can see at the end "reading message ...", but I can't find it


with gmail you have to select "allow non-conforming clients" or 
something.
I had problems with fetchmail and gmail ( forget what exactly) so 
started using getmail.


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fetchmail timeout (fwd)

[Pierre Frenkiel]

as requested, here is the output of fetchmail -v
you can see at the end "reading message ...", but I can't find it

 please reply pierre.frenk...@gmx.com

fetchmail: starting fetchmail 6.4.0.beta4 daemon
fetchmail: 6.4.0.beta4 querying imap.gmail.com (protocol IMAP) at Sun 29 Mar 
2020 10:00:12 AM CEST: poll started
fetchmail: Trying to connect to 2a00:1450:400c:c0b::6c/993...connected.
fetchmail: Loaded OpenSSL library 0x1010104f newer than headers 0x1010101f, 
trying to continue.
fetchmail: Server certificate:
fetchmail: Issuer Organization: Google Trust Services
fetchmail: Issuer CommonName: GTS CA 1O1
fetchmail: Subject CommonName: imap.gmail.com
fetchmail: Subject Alternative Name: imap.gmail.com
fetchmail: imap.gmail.com key fingerprint: 
D0:AE:2E:A9:43:15:E0:72:00:5A:E2:C7:79:92:80:14
fetchmail: SSL/TLS: using protocol TLSv1.3, cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384, 
256/256 secret/processed bits
fetchmail: IMAP< * OK Gimap ready for requests from 
2a01:e0a:509:99b0:2e4d:54ff:fed0:5806 o6mb110676674wrm
fetchmail: IMAP> A0001 CAPABILITY
fetchmail: IMAP< * CAPABILITY IMAP4rev1 UNSELECT IDLE NAMESPACE QUOTA ID XLIST 
CHILDREN X-GM-EXT-1 XYZZY SASL-IR AUTH=XOAUTH2 AUTH=PLAIN AUTH=PLAIN-CLIENTTOKEN 
AUTH=OAUTHBEARER AUTH=XOAUTH
fetchmail: IMAP< A0001 OK Thats all she wrote! o6mb110676674wrm
fetchmail: IMAP> A0002 LOGIN "pierre.frenkiel" *
fetchmail: IMAP< * CAPABILITY IMAP4rev1 UNSELECT IDLE NAMESPACE QUOTA ID XLIST 
CHILDREN X-GM-EXT-1 UIDPLUS COMPRESS=DEFLATE ENABLE MOVE CONDSTORE ESEARCH 
UTF8=ACCEPT LIST-EXTENDED LIST-STATUS LITERAL- SPECIAL-USE APPENDLIMIT=35651584
fetchmail: IMAP< A0002 OK pierre.frenk...@gmail.com authenticated (Success)
fetchmail: IMAP> A0003 SELECT "INBOX"
fetchmail: IMAP< * FLAGS (\Answered \Flagged \Draft \Deleted \Seen $NotPhishing 
$Phishing)
fetchmail: IMAP< * OK [PERMANENTFLAGS (\Answered \Flagged \Draft \Deleted \Seen 
$NotPhishing $Phishing \*)] Flags permitted.
fetchmail: IMAP< * OK [UIDVALIDITY 4] UIDs valid.
fetchmail: IMAP< * 211 EXISTS
fetchmail: IMAP< * 0 RECENT
fetchmail: IMAP< * OK [UIDNEXT 488592] Predicted next UID.
fetchmail: IMAP< * OK [HIGHESTMODSEQ 52495552]
fetchmail: IMAP< A0003 OK [READ-WRITE] INBOX selected. (Success)
fetchmail: IMAP> A0004 EXPUNGE
fetchmail: IMAP< A0004 OK Success
fetchmail: 211 messages for pierre.frenkiel at imap.gmail.com.
fetchmail: IMAP> A0005 FETCH 1:100 RFC822.SIZE
fetchmail: IMAP< * 1 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 9545047)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 2 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 6800)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 3 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 13965)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 4 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 7577)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 5 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 12323)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 6 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 14943)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 7 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 6373)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 8 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 14261)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 9 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 11218)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 10 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 296892)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 11 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 20328)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 12 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 27847)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 13 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 6944)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 14 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 5512)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 15 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 11460)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 16 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 5507)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 17 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 5313)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 18 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 5998)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 19 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 5411)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 20 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 9284)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 21 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 6828)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 22 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 7484)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 23 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 7)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 24 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 7840)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 25 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 9752)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 26 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 5953)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 27 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 8173)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 28 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 6939)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 29 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 20121)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 30 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 18251)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 31 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 4450)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 32 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 11674)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 33 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 53030)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 34 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 9242)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 35 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 25132)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 36 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 17722)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 37 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 9960)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 38 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 20088)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 39 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 9417)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 40 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 7609)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 41 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 13259)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 42 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 6554)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 43 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 6749)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 44 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 17092)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 45 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 8476)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 46 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 20436)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 47 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 48444)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 48 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 6982)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 49 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 7849)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 50 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 7336)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 51 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 6322)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 52 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 11556)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 53 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 10822)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 54 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 9561)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 55 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 33494)
fetchmail: IM

Re: Issue with i915 PSR module option

[Reco]

Hi.

On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 10:51:05PM +0100, l0f...@tuta.io wrote:
> >> > They are, but they aren't in main archive (non-libre, no source code).
> >> >
> >> My apt sources.list includes main, contrib and non-free.
> >> I don't find the firmwares in Debian packages, only a bxt_huc old one:
> >> $ apt-file search icl_dmc_ver
> >> $ apt-file search tgl_dmc_ver
> >> $ apt-file search bxt_huc_ver
> >>
> >
> > Even experimental does not have those.
> >
> So blobs are not systematically packaged on Debian.

Rather, nobody's complaining they are missing them.

> Then if I'm not wrong, I need to
> bookmark 
> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/firmware/linux-firmware.git/tree/
>  so
> I can pick up any missing firmware?

I'd file a bug report against firmware-linux-nonfree.
After all, they put in in the kernel tree for *something*.

Reco