Re: rtorrent man page, Jari "Rakshasa" Sundell mail bounces

[Emanuel Berg]

>>> does it belong to the distribution per se or how does
>>> that work?
>>
>> If you mean, can debian change the man page they
>> distribute, then I believe the answer is absolutely yes.
>> (Would not be debian-free otherwise).
>
> OK, yeah, makes sense.

Here is the man page file, rtorrent.1, got it with 'apt-get
-qq source rtorrent'.

I guess it would be pretty easy to fix manually by changing
the last line, however it says first it's automatically
generated by docbook2man, so maybe you should change the
DocBook document. (Never heard of DocBook BTW, cool.)

.\" This manpage has been automatically generated by docbook2man 
.\" from a DocBook document.  This tool can be found at:
.\"  
.\" Please send any bug reports, improvements, comments, patches, 
.\" etc. to Steve Cheng .
.TH "RTORRENT" "1" "25 February 2015" "BitTorrent client for ncurses" ""

.SH NAME
rtorrent \- a BitTorrent client for ncurses
.SH SYNOPSIS

\fBrtorrent\fR [ \fB-h\fR ] [ \fB-n\fR ] [ \fB-o key1=opt1,...\fR ] [ \fB-O 
key=opt\fR ] [ \fBURL | FILE\fR\fI ...\fR ]

.SH "DESCRIPTION"
.PP
\fBrtorrent\fR is a BitTorrent client for ncurses, using
the \fBlibtorrent\fR library. The client and library is
written in C++ with emphasis on speed and efficiency, while delivering
equivalent features to those found in GUI based clients in an ncurses
client.
.PP
Most of the options below have their own default unit in addition to
supporting B, K, M and G suffixes.
.SH "KEYBOARD CONTROL"
.PP
.SS "GLOBAL KEYS"
.TP
\fB^q\fR
Initiate shutdown, press again to force the shutdown and
skip sending the stop signal to trackers.
.TP
\fBup | down | left | right arrow keys\fR
.TP
\fB^P | ^N | ^B | ^F\fR
Select entries or change windows. The right arrow key or ^F is often
used for viewing details about the selected entry, while the left
arrow key or ^B often returns to the previous screen.
.TP
\fBa | s | d\fR
Increase the upload throttle by 1/5/50 KB.
.TP
\fBA | S | D\fR
Increase the download throttle by 1/5/50 KB.
.TP
\fBz | x | c\fR
Decrease the upload throttle by 1/5/50 KB.
.TP
\fBZ | X | C\fR
Decrease the download throttle by 1/5/50 KB.
.SS "MAIN VIEW KEYS"
.TP
\fB->\fR
View download.
.TP
\fB1 - 7\fR
Change view.
.TP
\fB^S\fR
Start download.
.TP
\fB^D\fR
Stop an active download, or remove a stopped download.
.TP
\fB^K\fR
Close a torrent and its files.
.TP
\fB^E\fR
Set the 'create/resize queued' flags on all files in a torrent. This
is necessary if the underlying files in a torrent have been deleted or
truncated, and thus rtorrent must recreate them.
.TP
\fB^R\fR
Initiate hash check of torrent.
.TP
\fB^O\fR
Change the destination directory of the download. The torrent must be
closed.
.TP
\fB^X\fR
Call commands or change settings.
.TP
\fB^B\fR
Set download to perform initial seeding. Only use when
you are the first and only seeder so far for the download.
.TP
\fB+ | -\fR
Change the priority of the download.
.TP
\fBbackspace\fR
Add torrent using an URL or file path. Use
\fBtab\fR to view directory content and do
auto-complete.
.TP
\fBl\fR
View log. Exit by pressing the space-bar.
.TP
\fBU\fR
Delete the file the torrent is tied to, and clear the association.
.TP
\fBI\fR
Toggle whether torrent ignores ratio settings.
.SS "DOWNLOAD VIEW KEYS"
.TP
\fB->\fR
View torrent file list. Use the space-bar to change the file priority
and \fB*\fR to change the priority of all
files. Use \fB/\fR to collapse the directories. OUTDATED
.TP
\fB1 | 2\fR
Adjust max uploads.
.TP
\fB3 | 4\fR
Adjust min peers.
.TP
\fB5 | 6\fR
Adjust max peers.
.TP
\fBu\fR
Display transferring blocks.
.TP
\fBi\fR
Display chunk rarity.
.TP
\fBo\fR
Display the tracker list. Cycle the trackers in a group with the
space-bar.
.TP
\fBp\fR
View peer and torrent information.
.TP
\fBt | T\fR
Initiate tracker request. Use capital T to force the request, ignoring
the "min interval" set by the tracker.
.TP
\fBk\fR
Disconnect peer.
.TP
\fB*\fR
Choke/Snub peer.
.SH "OPTIONS"
.TP
\fB-b \fIa.b.c.d\fB\fR
Bind listening socket and outgoing connections to this network
interface address.
.TP
\fB-d \fIdirectory\fB\fR
Set the default download directory. Defaults to "./".
.TP
\fB-h\fR
Display help and exit.
.TP
\fB-i \fIa.b.c.d\fB\fR
Set the address reported to the tracker.
.TP
\fB-n\fR
Don't load ~/.rtorrent.rc on startup.
.TP
\fB-o key1=opt1,...\fR
.TP
\fB-O key=opt\fR
Set any number of options, see the SETTINGS section. The options given
here override the resource files. Use capital \fB-O\fR
to allow comma in the option.
.TP
\fB-p \fIa-b\fB\fR
Try to open a listening port in the range \fBa\fR up to
and including \fBb\fR\&.
.TP
\fB-s \fIdirectory\fB\fR
Session management will be enabled and the torrent files for all open
downloads will be stored in this directory. Only one instance of
rtorrent should be used with each session directory, though at the
moment no locking is done. An empty string will disable the session
directory.
.SH "GENERAL SETTINGS"
.PP
.TP
\fBbind = \fIa.b

Re: youtube-dl → yt-dlp, was Re: OT: Detecting ISP throttling (was: Re: Potentially OT. Videos lagging & buffering in any browser but Google Chrome.)

[DdB]

Am 31.03.2023 um 00:28 schrieb l0f...@tuta.io:
> How do you get that URL? Via your browser resource/code inspector?

Hi, i had been asking not having to answer that question, because i
myself do not really understand, how it works.

I stumbled across an explanation while skimming through open issues of
yt-dlp on github. But unfortunately i did not save the link. => Happy
searching ;-)

Re: can't see shared printers from clients o local network

[gene heskett]

On 3/30/23 04:47, Jeremy Ardley wrote:


On 30/3/23 16:32, gene heskett wrote:

Greetings all;

hosts based local 192.158.xx.yy network.

cups at localhost:631 on any buster machine sees my printers just 
fine, and the buster machines can print to them.


Those machines running bullseye aren't allowed. can't see my printers 
unless I send ff to the ipv4 address of this machine.


This machine with the printers attached to its usb ports is an 
uptodate bullseye.


One scanner/printer also has an ipv4 address on the local net, but 
that is not found by the bullseye machines either.


What is preventing a bullseye machine from seeing my printers?

Thank You.

Cheers, Gene Heskett.



Debian 10 and 11 both use the Common Unix Printing System (CUPS) for 
printer management. CUPS comes with a tool called "Avahi" that allows 
for automatic discovery of network printers that support the Bonjour or 
Zeroconf protocols.


When a printer that supports Bonjour/Zeroconf is connected to the 
network, it announces itself to the network using Multicast Domain Name 
System (mDNS) protocol. The Avahi daemon running on Debian listens for 
these announcements and creates a local service for each printer 
discovered. The printer should then be automatically available for use 
in CUPS.


In your case see whether avahi is running, and if not, enable it.

cups-browsd has been removed as it insists on setting up broken drivers 
for my brother printers, they run to their full capabilities using the 
brother drivers. I also tend to remove avahi because it insists on a 
169.xx.xx.zz routing address to the world if it cannot find a working 
dhcpd on the system, which a hosts based network does not need. dns 
queries are sent to dd-wrt running on the router, which in turn sends 
them on to my isp's dns server. dd-wrt returns that result to what ever 
asked for it, usually in under 20 milliseconds.


I have asked on the cups list, but I've known Mike since he was a 
starving college student in the later '80's, both of us on delphi dialup 
at the time, and my messages to that list have been redirected to 
/dev/null for around 20 years now.


I figure this is a common enough problem that someone has solved it. 
cups at localhost:631 can't see the printers. coyote.coyote.den:631 
can't see a thing, but 182,168.71.3:631 works. What is the difference 
between buster which works a treat, and bullseye which doesn't?


I just went thru the cups docs on printer sharing, did everything 
suggested, both to this server and to one of the bullseye clients, no 
change could be detected.


I need a fresh outlook, I'm obviously missing something.

Cheers, Gene Heskett.
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 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
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 - Louis D. Brandeis
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Re: should CLI have a nice UI today?

[Stefan Monnier]

>> The issue is not what you CAN express with different media: any
>> program can be expressed as a flowchart.
>
> Is that true? Genuine question - I don't know the answer. But are the
> two mathematically equal/equivalent?

Yes,  it's called "Turing equivalence"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing_completeness#Formal_definitions


Stefan

Re: rtorrent man page, Jari "Rakshasa" Sundell mail bounces

[Emanuel Berg]

davidson wrote:

>> does it belong to the distribution per se or how does
>> that work?
>
> If you mean, can debian change the man page they distribute,
> then I believe the answer is absolutely yes. (Would not be
> debian-free otherwise).

OK, yeah, makes sense.

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Re: youtube-dl → yt-dlp, was Re: OT: Detecting ISP throttling (was: Re: Potentially OT. Videos lagging & buffering in any browser but Google Chrome.)

[l0f4r0]

Hi,

30 mars 2023, 23:56 de debianl...@potentially-spam.de-bruyn.de:

> I was successful at downloading the video with:
>
>> yt-dlp --verbose -k --ignore-config -c 
>> https://manifest.prod.boltdns.net/manifest/v1/hls/v4/clear/1241706627001/83ddeca4-2e3a-4149-840f-0ca907c2cb59/10s/master.m3u8?fastly_token=NjQyNjYyOWZfOTIzNjUyM2MwN2JlZTI3NjdhNDcwMjM4ZjhmNmY1MmRiZTQxMzM5ZTllOTYyM2E3YTkxZWNhOGQxYmY1YTU0OA%3D%3D
>>
>
> after finishing download, i found the file
>
>> master-master.mp4
>>
Indeed, well done.
Actually, it works as well without any yt-dlp option/switch.

How do you get that URL? Via your browser resource/code inspector?

l0f4r0

Re: youtube-dl → yt-dlp, was Re: OT: Detecting ISP throttling (was: Re: Potentially OT. Videos lagging & buffering in any browser but Google Chrome.)

[Brad Rogers]

On Thu, 30 Mar 2023 23:28:23 +0200 (CEST)
l0f...@tuta.io wrote:

Hello l0f...@tuta.io,

>Interesting theory but I can play that specific video in my browser
>without being logged in ;)

Weird;  I had to log in first.  No idea why your experience differs.
Still, as this doesn't forward the core issue, I'll leave it there.

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Re: youtube-dl → yt-dlp, was Re: OT: Detecting ISP throttling (was: Re: Potentially OT. Videos lagging & buffering in any browser but Google Chrome.)

[DdB]

Am 30.03.2023 um 20:20 schrieb Bret Busby:
> On 31/3/23 02:08, David Wright wrote:
>> On Fri 31 Mar 2023 at 01:41:04 (+0800), Bret Busby wrote:
>>> On 31/3/23 00:40, David Wright wrote:
 On Thu 30 Mar 2023 at 19:31:21 (+0800), Bret Busby wrote:

> I had previously been able to use youtube-dl, to download videos from
> youtube, but, it no longer works with youtube.

 AIUI youtube-dl is now obsolete, and its new spelling is yt-dlp.

 You can download it from bullseye-backports. If you're a backports
 user, just install it and check out the CLI options you normally
 use, in case they've been tweaked, with:

     $ yt-dlp -help | less

> And, I had been able to download videos from some streaming hosts,
> but, find that I cannot download videos from other streaming hosts.
>
> By download, I mean saving to my computer - so that I can get
> continuity, and, replay the streamed videos at slower speeds, and,
> manipulate the sound, so that I (having a hearing disability that
> affects my ability to hear what is spoken) can better hear what is
> being said, which is important for educational videos, such as at
> Rootstech 2023, where I cannot download significant videos.

 The yt-dlp dependencies are all unversioned, so rather than put
 backports into my sources.list, I just checked that I had them all,
 downloaded yt-dlp….deb from the Packages page, and installed it with
 the    apt-get install /full-path-to/yt-dlp….deb    syntax.
 (The backports youtube-dl package used to get very long in the tooth
 at times, so I've done this frequently in the past.) Whenever
 downloading fails, I check out whether there's a more up-to-date
 version with the   yt-dlp -U   option.

 Apparently there's a bug in yt-dlp at the moment, but I don't think
 either of us uses mpv /with/ the downloader, but only /after/
 downloading has completed.

>>> I had downloaded and installed yt-dlp, but, that did not work, either.
>>
>> Writing "did not work" just doesn't cut it on this list:
>> we need some specifics. Here's an example I ran this
>> morning on a reference given by David Christensen:
>>
>> $ gy bKzonnwoR2I
>> /usr/bin/yt-dlp http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKzonnwoR2I
>> [youtube] Extracting URL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKzonnwoR2I
>> [youtube] bKzonnwoR2I: Downloading webpage
>> [youtube] bKzonnwoR2I: Downloading android player API JSON
>> [info] bKzonnwoR2I: Downloading 1 format(s): 248+251
>> [download] Destination: Unix Pipeline (Brian Kernighan) -
>> Computerphile [bKzonnwoR2I].f248.webm
>> [download] 100% of   50.64MiB in 00:00:05 at 8.45MiB/s
>> [download] Destination: Unix Pipeline (Brian Kernighan) -
>> Computerphile [bKzonnwoR2I].f251.webm
>> [download] 100% of    3.85MiB in 00:00:00 at 6.28MiB/s
>> [Merger] Merging formats into "Unix Pipeline (Brian Kernighan) -
>> Computerphile [bKzonnwoR2I].webm"
>> Remember to remove any unmerged files as appropriate.
>> $
>>
>> Whether you can download that would determine where you go from here.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> David.
>>
> Fri Mar 31 02:18:31 bret@bret-Precision-Tower-5810:~$yt-dlp
> https://www.familysearch.org/rootstech/session/expanding-your-family-tree-with-sideview-and-more-innovations-from-ancestrydna?lang=eng
> 
> [generic]
> expanding-your-family-tree-with-sideview-and-more-innovations-from-ancestrydna?lang=eng:
> Requesting header
> WARNING: [generic] Falling back on generic information extractor.
> [generic]
> expanding-your-family-tree-with-sideview-and-more-innovations-from-ancestrydna?lang=eng:
> Downloading webpage
> [generic]
> expanding-your-family-tree-with-sideview-and-more-innovations-from-ancestrydna?lang=eng:
> Extracting information
> ERROR: Unsupported URL:
> https://www.familysearch.org/rootstech/session/expanding-your-family-tree-with-sideview-and-more-innovations-from-ancestrydna?lang=eng
> 
> Fri Mar 31 02:19:05 bret@bret-Precision-Tower-5810:~$
> 
> 
> ..
> Bret Busby
> Armadale
> West Australia
> (UTC+0800)
> ..
> 
> 


I was successful at downloading the video with:
> yt-dlp --verbose -k --ignore-config -c 
> https://manifest.prod.boltdns.net/manifest/v1/hls/v4/clear/1241706627001/83ddeca4-2e3a-4149-840f-0ca907c2cb59/10s/master.m3u8?fastly_token=NjQyNjYyOWZfOTIzNjUyM2MwN2JlZTI3NjdhNDcwMjM4ZjhmNmY1MmRiZTQxMzM5ZTllOTYyM2E3YTkxZWNhOGQxYmY1YTU0OA%3D%3D

after finishing download, i found the file
> master-master.mp4

Dont ask me, how i did this, because i dont know, just happened to work.

Re: Bookworm system randomly not responding (was Re: Bookworm system not responding on high memory usage)

[Xiyue Deng]

Xiyue Deng  writes:

> Xiyue Deng  writes:
>
>> So after some more tries it looks like this issue is not directly memory
>> usage related.  I've tried the following:
>>
>> * Using older kernel version when I was on Bullseye.
>> * Have a cronjob to drop memory caches every minutes.
>> * Using Gnome on Wayland by default or Xorg.
>>
>> And this can still happen when I was running a qemu-based Win11 VM using
>> virtual manager.  So this rules out the possibility of a kernel issue
>> and OOM killer issue.  All that is certain is that this issue can be
>> reproduced when running my qemu-based Win11 VM and in a few hours it
>> will trigger this lockup.
>>
>> As this system has been running Bullseye for a few years with zero
>> problem, I'm hopeful this should work for Bookworm as well.  If you have
>> anything in mind that may worth a try please feel free to share.  The
>> more ideas the better.
>>
>> Thanks in advance!
>
> So, to rule out possible software issues, I've done a clean install of
> Bookworm and Bullseye, and this issue still happens.  I guess this
> largely lowers the possibility of a software cause.  I've also done a
> 10-hour memtest session and it passed so I guess it was proven to be
> clean as well.
>
> For the next step, I'll go with the hardware aspect.  I want to thank
> for the helps, suggestions, and brainstorming from various people from
> #debian{,-next} IRC channels!  Will try to get to the bottom of this.
>

Actually after I decided to contact the customer service of my box[1],
after a few rounds of suggestions (reset CMOS, reinstall system, etc.),
they provided an update to the BIOS that supposed to Windows 10/11
freezing when accessing the fTPM module.  After flashing the new BIOS,
I've been running the system on high load for 12+ hours without issue.
Though a much longer testing period is needed to make sure the fix is
sufficient, I think this is looking very promising!  Will report back
after a week.

Hope this is useful for anyway having similar issues.

[1] https://store.minisforum.com/products/hx90

>>
>> (Replies to Timothy below inline.)
>>
>> Timothy M Butterworth  writes:
>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 11, 2023 at 3:30 AM Xiyue Deng  wrote:
>>>
>>>  Timothy M Butterworth  writes:
>>>
>>>  > On Fri, Mar 10, 2023 at 7:57 PM Xiyue Deng  wrote:
>>>  >
>>>  >  Hi,
>>>  >
>>>  >  I have an AMD64 system[1] that has been running fine on Bullseye for a
>>>  >  few years, and recently following the soft freeze on Bookworm I upgraded
>>>  >  my system to try it out, and the system has been frequently losing
>>>  >  response.  Initially I thought it was because of some issue of my
>>>  >  qemu-based Win11 virtual machine as it happens most frequently when it
>>>  >  was running and filed a bug report[2].  But then it happened again
>>>  >  without it running because some other program had slowly used up most of
>>>  >  the memory again, though not as frequently as the VM was running.
>>>  >
>>>  >  Now in retrospect, when I was using Bullseye the total memory was also
>>>  >  mostly used up most of the time, with a few hundreds of megabytes
>>>  >  reported as free and a few Gigs reported as cache, and it has been
>>>  >  running fine.  I'm not sure what has changed in Bookworm and having to
>>>  >  manually restart the machine is a pretty annoying and unpleasant
>>>  >  experience.
>>>  >
>>>  >  Does anyone seeing a similar problem as well?  What can I do to avoid
>>>  >  this?  Any suggest is welcome.
>>>  >
>>>  >  Thanks in advance.
>>>  >
>>>  > Open the command prompt and run `su` to switch user to root. Then run 
>>> `sync && echo 1 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches`
>>>  as
>>>  > root. This will write RAM caches to the hard drive to free up memory. 
>>> You have to run this as root as sudo, my
>>>  preferred
>>>  > method, returns a permission disabled error.
>>>
>>>  Thanks for the tip!  I'll try it out.
>>
>> So unfortunately this doesn't help either, as it happens again with very
>> low cache usage.
>>
>> `free -h`:
>>
>>totalusedfree  shared  buff/cache   
>> available
>> Mem:30Gi13Gi16Gi   206Mi   1.4Gi
>> 17Gi
>> Swap:  979Mi  0B   979Mi
>>
>> `top` excerpt:
>>
>> top - 14:55:05 up 18 min, 11 users,  load average: 1.77, 1.65, 1.09
>> Tasks: 504 total,   1 running, 503 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
>> %Cpu(s): 12.5 us,  0.0 sy,  0.0 ni, 68.8 id,  0.0 wa,  0.0 hi,  6.2 si,  0.0 
>> st 
>> MiB Mem :  31519.9 total,  16972.6 free,  13759.0 used,   1447.6 buff/cache  
>>
>> MiB Swap:980.0 total,980.0 free,  0.0 used.  17760.8 avail Mem 
>>
>> PID USER  PR  NIVIRTRESSHR S  %CPU  %MEM TIME+ 
>> COMMAND
>>8886 libvirt+  20   0   11.1g   8.1g  26580 S  87.5  26.4  17:38.47 
>> qemu-sy+
>>5434 xiyueden  20   0 4047004   1.2g 170036 S   0.0   4.0   0:41.00 
>> thunder+
>>5143 xiyueden  20   0 7056664 526296 191152 S   0.0   1.6   2:19.65 
>> gn

Re: youtube-dl → yt-dlp, was Re: OT: Detecting ISP throttling (was: Re: Potentially OT. Videos lagging & buffering in any browser but Google Chrome.)

[l0f4r0]

Hello Brad,

30 mars 2023, 23:20 de b...@fineby.me.uk:

> >In your case, yt-dlp falls back on its generic extractor (documentation
> >says "Generic downloader that works on some sites") but it doesn't work
> >for familysearch.org visibly...
>
> Largely, I suspect, it's because to access video on that FamilySearch
> page, one is required to be logged in.  IDK whether yt-dlp can handle
> that.
>
Interesting theory but I can play that specific video in my browser without 
being logged in ;)

l0f4r0

Re: youtube-dl → yt-dlp, was Re: OT: Detecting ISP throttling (was: Re: Potentially OT. Videos lagging & buffering in any browser but Google Chrome.)

[Brad Rogers]

On Thu, 30 Mar 2023 22:55:05 +0200 (CEST)
l0f...@tuta.io wrote:

Hello l0f...@tuta.io,

>In your case, yt-dlp falls back on its generic extractor (documentation
>says "Generic downloader that works on some sites") but it doesn't work
>for familysearch.org visibly...

Largely, I suspect, it's because to access video on that FamilySearch
page, one is required to be logged in.  IDK whether yt-dlp can handle
that.

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Re: youtube-dl → yt-dlp, was Re: OT: Detecting ISP throttling (was: Re: Potentially OT. Videos lagging & buffering in any browser but Google Chrome.)

[l0f4r0]

Hello,

30 mars 2023, 20:46 de b...@busby.net:

> Fri Mar 31 02:18:31 bret@bret-Precision-Tower-5810:~$yt-dlp 
> https://www.familysearch.org/rootstech/session/expanding-your-family-tree-with-sideview-and-more-innovations-from-ancestrydna?lang=eng
> [generic] 
> expanding-your-family-tree-with-sideview-and-more-innovations-from-ancestrydna?lang=eng:
>  Requesting header
> WARNING: [generic] Falling back on generic information extractor.
> [generic] 
> expanding-your-family-tree-with-sideview-and-more-innovations-from-ancestrydna?lang=eng:
>  Downloading webpage
> [generic] 
> expanding-your-family-tree-with-sideview-and-more-innovations-from-ancestrydna?lang=eng:
>  Extracting information
> ERROR: Unsupported URL: 
> https://www.familysearch.org/rootstech/session/expanding-your-family-tree-with-sideview-and-more-innovations-from-ancestrydna?lang=eng
> Fri Mar 31 02:19:05 bret@bret-Precision-Tower-5810:~$
>
yt-dlp cannot download videos from every and each websites on the internet.

You can find the compatible websites here: 
https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp/blob/master/supportedsites.md

In your case, yt-dlp falls back on its generic extractor (documentation says 
"Generic downloader that works on some sites") but it doesn't work for 
familysearch.org visibly...

As mentioned by David, you should try the following command to see (hopefully) 
that your yt-dlp works just fine:
yt-dlp http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKzonnwoR2I

l0f4r0

Re: rtorrent man page, Jari "Rakshasa" Sundell mail bounces

[davidson]

On Thu, 30 Mar 2023 Emanuel Berg wrote:

davidson wrote:


I tried to mail him but that mail bounces, apparently it's an
alias which expands into ja...@student.matnat.uio.no but it's a
"Gone", 550.


I found the page below in my bookmarks.


Maybe a more helpful pointer to the same page, if you only want
documentation that I have found helpful (maybe a year or two ago).

  https://github.com/rakshasa/rtorrent/wiki/#wiki-content


https://github.com/rakshasa/rtorrent/wiki#user-content-stuff

  This project is developed by Jari Sundell, "Rakshasa", a former
  student of computer science, math and Japanese at the University
  of Oslo. He can be reached on sundell.softw...@gmail.com, also an
  unofficial help channel may be found at
  ##rtorr...@irc.freenode.net which should be used for
  user-support.

  If you didn't get a reply to a mail sent to this address, it may
  either mean he is busy, has a rather full inbox or that you
  should have searched the internet first.

Maybe the contact information is current.


Cool, thanks.


Also (option -h is "help"):

 $ { rtorrent -h | head -1 ; rtorrent -h | tail -1 ; }
 Rakshasa's BitTorrent client version 0.9.8.
 Report bugs to .
 ^^

So the man page should be updated,


Definitely. And for more than one reason. Last message posted on
debian bug 903820

  #903820 - rtorrent: old outdated manpage
  https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=903820#5

  From: Kurt Roeckx 
  To: sub...@bugs.debian.org
  Subject: rtorrent: old outdated manpage
  Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2018 12:09:00 +0200

  Package: rtorrent
  Version: 0.9.7-1

KR>  Hi,
KR>
KR> It seems that Debian ships a manpage that does not come from
KR>  upstream and so it totally outdated. It documents settings that have
KR>  been deprecated and no longer works with 0.9.7. In the upstream
KR>  repository it moved from doc/old/. I have no idea where the actual
KR>  documentation is now.
KR>
KR>  There also is an example rtorrent.rc file that might be useful to
KR>  ship as part of the package in the doc directory.

You ask:


does it belong to the distribution per se or how does that work?


If you mean, can debian change the man page they distribute, then I
believe the answer is absolutely yes.  (Would not be debian-free
otherwise).

AFAICT, stable and testing do not currently differ. That is, for fixed ARCH

 
https://packages.debian.org/{stable,testing}/$ARCH/rtorrent/download#pdownloadmeta

look the same. (I did not check all ARCH).

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Re: youtube-dl → yt-dlp, was Re: OT: Detecting ISP throttling (was: Re: Potentially OT. Videos lagging & buffering in any browser but Google Chrome.)

[Bret Busby]

On 31/3/23 02:08, David Wright wrote:

On Fri 31 Mar 2023 at 01:41:04 (+0800), Bret Busby wrote:

On 31/3/23 00:40, David Wright wrote:

On Thu 30 Mar 2023 at 19:31:21 (+0800), Bret Busby wrote:


I had previously been able to use youtube-dl, to download videos from
youtube, but, it no longer works with youtube.


AIUI youtube-dl is now obsolete, and its new spelling is yt-dlp.

You can download it from bullseye-backports. If you're a backports
user, just install it and check out the CLI options you normally
use, in case they've been tweaked, with:

$ yt-dlp -help | less


And, I had been able to download videos from some streaming hosts,
but, find that I cannot download videos from other streaming hosts.

By download, I mean saving to my computer - so that I can get
continuity, and, replay the streamed videos at slower speeds, and,
manipulate the sound, so that I (having a hearing disability that
affects my ability to hear what is spoken) can better hear what is
being said, which is important for educational videos, such as at
Rootstech 2023, where I cannot download significant videos.


The yt-dlp dependencies are all unversioned, so rather than put
backports into my sources.list, I just checked that I had them all,
downloaded yt-dlp….deb from the Packages page, and installed it with
theapt-get install /full-path-to/yt-dlp….debsyntax.
(The backports youtube-dl package used to get very long in the tooth
at times, so I've done this frequently in the past.) Whenever
downloading fails, I check out whether there's a more up-to-date
version with the   yt-dlp -U   option.

Apparently there's a bug in yt-dlp at the moment, but I don't think
either of us uses mpv /with/ the downloader, but only /after/
downloading has completed.


I had downloaded and installed yt-dlp, but, that did not work, either.


Writing "did not work" just doesn't cut it on this list:
we need some specifics. Here's an example I ran this
morning on a reference given by David Christensen:

$ gy bKzonnwoR2I
/usr/bin/yt-dlp http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKzonnwoR2I
[youtube] Extracting URL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKzonnwoR2I
[youtube] bKzonnwoR2I: Downloading webpage
[youtube] bKzonnwoR2I: Downloading android player API JSON
[info] bKzonnwoR2I: Downloading 1 format(s): 248+251
[download] Destination: Unix Pipeline (Brian Kernighan) - Computerphile 
[bKzonnwoR2I].f248.webm
[download] 100% of   50.64MiB in 00:00:05 at 8.45MiB/s
[download] Destination: Unix Pipeline (Brian Kernighan) - Computerphile 
[bKzonnwoR2I].f251.webm
[download] 100% of3.85MiB in 00:00:00 at 6.28MiB/s
[Merger] Merging formats into "Unix Pipeline (Brian Kernighan) - Computerphile 
[bKzonnwoR2I].webm"
Remember to remove any unmerged files as appropriate.
$

Whether you can download that would determine where you go from here.

Cheers,
David.

Fri Mar 31 02:18:31 bret@bret-Precision-Tower-5810:~$yt-dlp 
https://www.familysearch.org/rootstech/session/expanding-your-family-tree-with-sideview-and-more-innovations-from-ancestrydna?lang=eng
[generic] 
expanding-your-family-tree-with-sideview-and-more-innovations-from-ancestrydna?lang=eng: 
Requesting header

WARNING: [generic] Falling back on generic information extractor.
[generic] 
expanding-your-family-tree-with-sideview-and-more-innovations-from-ancestrydna?lang=eng: 
Downloading webpage
[generic] 
expanding-your-family-tree-with-sideview-and-more-innovations-from-ancestrydna?lang=eng: 
Extracting information
ERROR: Unsupported URL: 
https://www.familysearch.org/rootstech/session/expanding-your-family-tree-with-sideview-and-more-innovations-from-ancestrydna?lang=eng

Fri Mar 31 02:19:05 bret@bret-Precision-Tower-5810:~$


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Armadale
West Australia
(UTC+0800)
..

Re: youtube-dl → yt-dlp, was Re: OT: Detecting ISP throttling (was: Re: Potentially OT. Videos lagging & buffering in any browser but Google Chrome.)

[tomas]

On Thu, Mar 30, 2023 at 01:08:19PM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> On Fri 31 Mar 2023 at 01:41:04 (+0800), Bret Busby wrote:

[...]

> Writing "did not work" just doesn't cut it on this list:
> we need some specifics. Here's an example I ran this
> morning on a reference given by David Christensen:

This is more or less I thought at the first post: "not
work" doesn't work here.

For me, youtube-dl works most of the time. But this will
almost certainly be a complex function of the downloader's
location and the video in question, so...

One thing I found out is that youtube-dl's cache seems to
suffer poisoning from time to time (no wonder, with all that
toxic javascript out there). A timely

  youtube-dl --rm-cache-dir

got it unstuck for me once (meaning that a video which threw
a 403 before downloaded nicely after).

YMMV and things.

Cheers
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Re: youtube-dl → yt-dlp, was Re: OT: Detecting ISP throttling (was: Re: Potentially OT. Videos lagging & buffering in any browser but Google Chrome.)

[David Wright]

On Fri 31 Mar 2023 at 01:41:04 (+0800), Bret Busby wrote:
> On 31/3/23 00:40, David Wright wrote:
> > On Thu 30 Mar 2023 at 19:31:21 (+0800), Bret Busby wrote:
> > 
> > > I had previously been able to use youtube-dl, to download videos from
> > > youtube, but, it no longer works with youtube.
> > 
> > AIUI youtube-dl is now obsolete, and its new spelling is yt-dlp.
> > 
> > You can download it from bullseye-backports. If you're a backports
> > user, just install it and check out the CLI options you normally
> > use, in case they've been tweaked, with:
> > 
> >$ yt-dlp -help | less
> > 
> > > And, I had been able to download videos from some streaming hosts,
> > > but, find that I cannot download videos from other streaming hosts.
> > > 
> > > By download, I mean saving to my computer - so that I can get
> > > continuity, and, replay the streamed videos at slower speeds, and,
> > > manipulate the sound, so that I (having a hearing disability that
> > > affects my ability to hear what is spoken) can better hear what is
> > > being said, which is important for educational videos, such as at
> > > Rootstech 2023, where I cannot download significant videos.
> > 
> > The yt-dlp dependencies are all unversioned, so rather than put
> > backports into my sources.list, I just checked that I had them all,
> > downloaded yt-dlp….deb from the Packages page, and installed it with
> > theapt-get install /full-path-to/yt-dlp….debsyntax.
> > (The backports youtube-dl package used to get very long in the tooth
> > at times, so I've done this frequently in the past.) Whenever
> > downloading fails, I check out whether there's a more up-to-date
> > version with the   yt-dlp -U   option.
> > 
> > Apparently there's a bug in yt-dlp at the moment, but I don't think
> > either of us uses mpv /with/ the downloader, but only /after/
> > downloading has completed.
> > 
> I had downloaded and installed yt-dlp, but, that did not work, either.

Writing "did not work" just doesn't cut it on this list:
we need some specifics. Here's an example I ran this
morning on a reference given by David Christensen:

$ gy bKzonnwoR2I
/usr/bin/yt-dlp http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKzonnwoR2I
[youtube] Extracting URL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKzonnwoR2I
[youtube] bKzonnwoR2I: Downloading webpage
[youtube] bKzonnwoR2I: Downloading android player API JSON
[info] bKzonnwoR2I: Downloading 1 format(s): 248+251
[download] Destination: Unix Pipeline (Brian Kernighan) - Computerphile 
[bKzonnwoR2I].f248.webm
[download] 100% of   50.64MiB in 00:00:05 at 8.45MiB/s
[download] Destination: Unix Pipeline (Brian Kernighan) - Computerphile 
[bKzonnwoR2I].f251.webm
[download] 100% of3.85MiB in 00:00:00 at 6.28MiB/s
[Merger] Merging formats into "Unix Pipeline (Brian Kernighan) - Computerphile 
[bKzonnwoR2I].webm"
Remember to remove any unmerged files as appropriate.
$ 

Whether you can download that would determine where you go from here.

Cheers,
David.

Re: youtube-dl → yt-dlp, was Re: OT: Detecting ISP throttling (was: Re: Potentially OT. Videos lagging & buffering in any browser but Google Chrome.)

[Bret Busby]

On 31/3/23 00:40, David Wright wrote:

On Thu 30 Mar 2023 at 19:31:21 (+0800), Bret Busby wrote:


I had previously been able to use youtube-dl, to download videos from
youtube, but, it no longer works with youtube.


AIUI youtube-dl is now obsolete, and its new spelling is yt-dlp.

You can download it from bullseye-backports. If you're a backports
user, just install it and check out the CLI options you normally
use, in case they've been tweaked, with:

   $ yt-dlp -help | less


And, I had been able to download videos from some streaming hosts,
but, find that I cannot download videos from other streaming hosts.

By download, I mean saving to my computer - so that I can get
continuity, and, replay the streamed videos at slower speeds, and,
manipulate the sound, so that I (having a hearing disability that
affects my ability to hear what is spoken) can better hear what is
being said, which is important for educational videos, such as at
Rootstech 2023, where I cannot download significant videos.


The yt-dlp dependencies are all unversioned, so rather than put
backports into my sources.list, I just checked that I had them all,
downloaded yt-dlp….deb from the Packages page, and installed it with
theapt-get install /full-path-to/yt-dlp….debsyntax.
(The backports youtube-dl package used to get very long in the tooth
at times, so I've done this frequently in the past.) Whenever
downloading fails, I check out whether there's a more up-to-date
version with the   yt-dlp -U   option.

Apparently there's a bug in yt-dlp at the moment, but I don't think
either of us uses mpv /with/ the downloader, but only /after/
downloading has completed.

Cheers,
David.


I had downloaded and installed yt-dlp, but, that did not work, either.

..
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Armadale
West Australia
(UTC+0800)
..

youtube-dl → yt-dlp, was Re: OT: Detecting ISP throttling (was: Re: Potentially OT. Videos lagging & buffering in any browser but Google Chrome.)

[David Wright]

On Thu 30 Mar 2023 at 19:31:21 (+0800), Bret Busby wrote:

> I had previously been able to use youtube-dl, to download videos from
> youtube, but, it no longer works with youtube.

AIUI youtube-dl is now obsolete, and its new spelling is yt-dlp.

You can download it from bullseye-backports. If you're a backports
user, just install it and check out the CLI options you normally
use, in case they've been tweaked, with:

  $ yt-dlp -help | less

> And, I had been able to download videos from some streaming hosts,
> but, find that I cannot download videos from other streaming hosts.
> 
> By download, I mean saving to my computer - so that I can get
> continuity, and, replay the streamed videos at slower speeds, and,
> manipulate the sound, so that I (having a hearing disability that
> affects my ability to hear what is spoken) can better hear what is
> being said, which is important for educational videos, such as at
> Rootstech 2023, where I cannot download significant videos.

The yt-dlp dependencies are all unversioned, so rather than put
backports into my sources.list, I just checked that I had them all,
downloaded yt-dlp….deb from the Packages page, and installed it with
theapt-get install /full-path-to/yt-dlp….debsyntax.
(The backports youtube-dl package used to get very long in the tooth
at times, so I've done this frequently in the past.) Whenever
downloading fails, I check out whether there's a more up-to-date
version with the   yt-dlp -U   option.

Apparently there's a bug in yt-dlp at the moment, but I don't think
either of us uses mpv /with/ the downloader, but only /after/
downloading has completed.

Cheers,
David.

Re: OT: Detecting ISP throttling (was: Re: Potentially OT. Videos lagging & buffering in any browser but Google Chrome.)

[Curt]

On 2023-03-30, Bret Busby  wrote:
>
> I had previously been able to use youtube-dl, to download videos from 
> youtube, but, it no longer works with youtube.
>

If you're not using the latest version, this is it:

https://youtube-dl.org/downloads/latest/youtube-dl-2021.12.17.tar.gz

I used this (or maybe a previous version) not too long ago, and it worked
as intended.

Re: gradle wants openjdk-11 even if a newer version is installed? ...

[tomas]

On Thu, Mar 30, 2023 at 05:36:55PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote:
> debian-u...@howorth.org.uk (12023-03-30):
> >   But as a Perl developer you generally want something closer
> > to the latest, greatest version.
> 
> No. I develop, including in Perl, and like any other language, I want a
> stable version for most use cases.

Back when I did Perl more, I made a point that my applications ran with
a wide range of versions. I only introduced version dependencies when
there was a strong reason to do so.

Cheers
-- 
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Re: gradle wants openjdk-11 even if a newer version is installed? ...

[Nicolas George]

debian-u...@howorth.org.uk (12023-03-30):
> But as a Perl developer you generally want something closer
> to the latest, greatest version.

No. I develop, including in Perl, and like any other language, I want a
stable version for most use cases.

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Re: should CLI have a nice UI today?

[Dan Ritter]

debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: 
> Nicolas George  wrote:
> > The issue is not what you CAN express with different media: any
> > program can be expressed as a flowchart.
> 
> Is that true? Genuine question - I don't know the answer. But are the
> two mathematically equal/equivalent? I wonder how, for example,
> self-modifying code or tail recursion are modelled in flowcharts?

Since flowcharts are interpreted by humans and not computers,
you could always define a new construct.

That said:

https://www.freecodecamp.org/news/how-recursion-works-explained-with-flowcharts-and-a-video-de61f40cb7f9/

Self-modifying code is just an implementation where a step
breaks out into "run the code contained in this variable".

-dsr-

Re: gradle wants openjdk-11 even if a newer version is installed? ...

[debian-user]

Dan Ritter  wrote:

> Perl is quite stable, and has tooling to acquire modules and turn
> them into Debian packages that works very well most of the time.

Perl is a special case IME. It is used a lot by system features so it
is important that the installed module versions match the rest of the
system. (Although python et al are taking over some of these respons-
ibilities). But as a Perl developer you generally want something closer
to the latest, greatest version. Fortunately perl has an excellent
mechanism for maintaining multiple versions of modules such that those
installed from system repositories for system use and those installed
from CPAN for development or other uses keep themselves separate in a
very nice way. Other languages would do well to emulate it, IMHO.

Re: should CLI have a nice UI today?

[debian-user]

Nicolas George  wrote:
> The issue is not what you CAN express with different media: any
> program can be expressed as a flowchart.

Is that true? Genuine question - I don't know the answer. But are the
two mathematically equal/equivalent? I wonder how, for example,
self-modifying code or tail recursion are modelled in flowcharts?

Re: OT: Detecting ISP throttling (was: Re: Potentially OT. Videos lagging & buffering in any browser but Google Chrome.)

[Bret Busby]

On 30/3/23 19:11, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:

On Sunday, March 26, 2023 04:21:00 PM Cindy Sue Causey wrote:

One last thought is I read somewhere that ISPs, especially smaller
ones, have been caught throttling users based on type of usage even
though the same ISPs label their services as unlimited. Conspiracy
theories tossed aside, that's still a rational possibility that needs
pursued on my end here.

BUT THEN... Google Chrome does work properly. That's why I haven't
wasted any time nor brain storage on actively investigating local ISP
throttling as a most likely answer. :)


I suspect my ISP (Earthlink) may be throttling me.  Not too long ago, I could
watch (stream) TV programs on PlutoTV (on my DSL line (I know)) but could not
stream movies (and I assumed the movies might have had a higher resolution and
thus required more bandwidth).

But, a few months ago, I was no longer able to stream TV shows.

I guess I could run a speed check on my line and compare to some older
results, but I can imagine the speed test could be fooled (maybe they've
throttled my connection either for specific IPs / websites, or maybe for
specific "classes" of data.

Any other suggestions?

I am wondering whether the problem with the streaming, involves changes 
made by the streaming hosts.


I had previously been able to use youtube-dl, to download videos from 
youtube, but, it no longer works with youtube.


And, I had been able to download videos from some streaming hosts, but, 
find that I cannot download videos from other streaming hosts.


By download, I mean saving to my computer - so that I can get 
continuity, and, replay the streamed videos at slower speeds, and, 
manipulate the sound, so that I (having a hearing disability that 
affects my ability to hear what is spoken) can better hear what is being 
said, which is important for educational videos, such as at Rootstech 
2023, where I cannot download significant videos.


..
Bret Busby
Armadale
West Australia
(UTC+0800)
..

Re: Strange locally-originating spam messages from sport.qc.ca

[Reco]

Hi.

On Thu, Mar 30, 2023 at 12:19:24PM +0100, Julian Gilbey wrote:
> The log seems quite unhelpful here, though I may be missing
> something.  Here is an example:

I disagree. There's nothing to miss here, thus you're correct.

> 2023-03-29 00:07:19 1phIPT-0047NQ-0H <= <> H=(LOCALHOSTNAME) [::1] P=smtp 
> S=2878

That, my friend, is a locally queued mail.
I.e. some process on that very host connected to exim on tcp:25 on the
same host and

> 2023-03-29 00:07:19 1phIPT-0047NQ-0H ** frpjxbkek...@sport.qc.ca 
>  R=nonlocal: Mailing to remote domains not supported

tried to send a e-mail to that e-mail above.
That exim is probably configured as "local" MTA, so it refused to send
that e-mail.


> It seems to have originated locally ([::1]), which is why I wonder
> whether I've got a virus of some sort.

"Virus" is such a harsh word.
It's a malware, plain and simple.

I suggest you to:

1) Poweroff problematic host ASAP.

2) Remove HDD from that host.

3) Attach the HDD to known clean host, preferably with a different CPU
architecture, mount filesystems.

4) Check Debian software for validity (debsums -ac -r ...).

5) Check crontabs (both system and users'), double-check www-data
crontab.

6) Check systemd timers, both system and users'.

7) Consider using very strict Apparmor policy for any LAN-facing
services that you have there in the future (aa-genprof).


> On my internet-facing host, these messages appear to originate from a
> Canadian ISP, but I don't know whether to believe it, given what's
> happening on my other machine.

Be generous, ban whole AS of that ISP via iptables/nft first.
Consider repeating the steps outlined above for internet-facing host
too.

Reco

Re: Strange locally-originating spam messages from sport.qc.ca

[Julian Gilbey]

Hi Jeremy!

On Thu, Mar 30, 2023 at 05:03:47PM +0800, Jeremy Ardley wrote:
> 
> On 30/3/23 16:30, Julian Gilbey wrote:
> > I'm getting a significant number of spam messages being sent to my MTA
> > (exim) for the address FRPJXbKeKuek at sport.qc.ca, and now I'm
> > starting to see some sent to www-data at aether.toine.be.  What is
> > disturbing is that the machine is on a local network, and my
> > internet-facing router does not forward anything to this machine.  So
> > I presume that these mails are originating from the machine itself.
> 
> The first problem I see is you have just published the internal DNS name of
> a machine in your local network.

To clarify: these are the addresses that the email was addressed to.
They have absolutely no relationship with my personal network(s),
hostname(s) or personal email addresses.

But I think I've just solved the problem (by grepping for this email
address across my system); my local machine was - unknown to me -
running fetchmail.  These spam messages must have been sent to the
mail server being read by fetchmail.  That is a relief!

Best wishes,

   Julian

Re: Strange locally-originating spam messages from sport.qc.ca

[Julian Gilbey]

On Thu, Mar 30, 2023 at 12:00:01PM +0300, Reco wrote:
>   Hi.
> 
> On Thu, Mar 30, 2023 at 09:30:49AM +0100, Julian Gilbey wrote:
> > I wonder if anyone has any idea about how to track this down?
> 
> I'd check /var/log/exim4/mainlog first, obviously.
> For instance, your mail was sent to my MTA by bendel.d.o, as is
> should be:
> 
> $ grep ZmNnhCgr7-N.A.uSE.A2UJkB /var/log/exim4/mainlog
> 2023-03-30 10:51:15 1pho03-QZ-9B <= 
> bounce-debian-user=deb=enotuniq@lists.debian.org H=bendel.debian.org 
> [82.195.75.100] P=esmtps 
> X=TLS1.3:ECDHE_X25519__ECDSA_SECP384R1_SHA384__AES_256_GCM:256 CV=no S=5087 
> id=ZmNnhCgr7-N.A.uSE.A2UJkB@bendel

Hi Reco,

Thanks!

The log seems quite unhelpful here, though I may be missing
something.  Here is an example:

2023-03-29 00:07:19 1phIPT-0047NQ-0H <= <> H=(LOCALHOSTNAME) [::1] P=smtp S=2878
2023-03-29 00:07:19 1phIPT-0047NQ-0H ** frpjxbkek...@sport.qc.ca 
 R=nonlocal: Mailing to remote domains not supported
2023-03-29 00:07:19 1phIPP-0047NT-0V <= <> R=1phIPT-0047NQ-0H U=Debian-exim 
P=local S=667
2023-03-29 00:07:19 1phIPT-0047NQ-0H Frozen (delivery error message)
2023-03-29 00:13:24 1phIPT-0047NQ-0H Message is frozen

...and lots of repeats of this last message until I manually deleted
the message.

(I've replaced my local machine name with "LOCALHOSTNAME" in the above.)

It seems to have originated locally ([::1]), which is why I wonder
whether I've got a virus of some sort.

On my internet-facing host, these messages appear to originate from a
Canadian ISP, but I don't know whether to believe it, given what's
happening on my other machine.

Best wishes,

   Julian

Re: Strange locally-originating spam messages from sport.qc.ca

[Greg Wooledge]

On Thu, Mar 30, 2023 at 12:00:01PM +0300, Reco wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 30, 2023 at 09:30:49AM +0100, Julian Gilbey wrote:
> > I wonder if anyone has any idea about how to track this down?
> 
> I'd check /var/log/exim4/mainlog first, obviously.

In addition to that, open one of the spam messages in a competent MUA
and examine the full headers.  You should see one or more "Received:"
headers.  Every time the message is handed off to a new MTA, a new
Received: header is prepended to the top of the message, so to read
them in chronological order, you have to start at the bottom and work
your way upward.

So, look at the bottom-most Received: header first.  Do you recognize
either the sending or receiving system?  If not, continue upward until
you do.

At some point, one of them should reveal where the message came from
(i.e. who sent it to your computer).

If your computer truly is cut off from the Internet as you say, then
I would imagine you received it from another host on your local network.
Be prepared for that.

OT: Detecting ISP throttling (was: Re: Potentially OT. Videos lagging & buffering in any browser but Google Chrome.)

[rhkramer]

On Sunday, March 26, 2023 04:21:00 PM Cindy Sue Causey wrote:
> One last thought is I read somewhere that ISPs, especially smaller
> ones, have been caught throttling users based on type of usage even
> though the same ISPs label their services as unlimited. Conspiracy
> theories tossed aside, that's still a rational possibility that needs
> pursued on my end here.
> 
> BUT THEN... Google Chrome does work properly. That's why I haven't
> wasted any time nor brain storage on actively investigating local ISP
> throttling as a most likely answer. :)

I suspect my ISP (Earthlink) may be throttling me.  Not too long ago, I could 
watch (stream) TV programs on PlutoTV (on my DSL line (I know)) but could not 
stream movies (and I assumed the movies might have had a higher resolution and 
thus required more bandwidth).

But, a few months ago, I was no longer able to stream TV shows.

I guess I could run a speed check on my line and compare to some older 
results, but I can imagine the speed test could be fooled (maybe they've 
throttled my connection either for specific IPs / websites, or maybe for 
specific "classes" of data.

Any other suggestions?

-- 
rhk 

(sig revised 20230312 -- modified first paragraph, some other irrelevant 
wordsmithing)

| No entity has permission to use this email to train an AI. 

If you reply: snip, snip, and snip again; leave attributions; avoid HTML; 
avoid top posting; and keep it "on list".  (Oxford comma (and semi-colon) 
included at no charge.)  If you revise the topic, change the Subject: line.  
If you change the topic, start a new thread.

Writing is often meant for others to read and understand (legal documents 
excepted?) -- make it easier for your reader by various means, including 
liberal use of whitespace (short paragraphs, separated by whitespace / blank 
lines) and minimal use of (obscure?) jargon, abbreviations, acronyms, and 
references.

If someone has already responded to a question, decide whether any response 
you add will be helpful or not ...

A picture is worth a thousand words.  A video (or "audio"): not so much -- 
divide by 10 for each minute of video (or audio) or create a transcript and 
edit it to 10% of the original.

A speaker who uses ahhs, ums, or such may have a real physical or mental 
disability, or may be showing disrespect for his listeners by not properly 
preparing in advance and thinking before speaking. (That speaker might have 
been "trained" to do this by being interrupted often if he pauses.)  (Remember 
Cicero who did not have enough time to write a short missive.)

A radio (or TV) station which broadcasts speakers with high pitched voices (or 
very low pitched / gravelly voices) (which older people might not be able to 
hear properly) disrespects its listeners.   Likewise if it broadcasts 
extraneous or disturbing sounds (like gunfire or crying), or broadcasts 
speakers using their native language (with or without an overdubbed 
translation).

A person who writes a sig this long probably has issues and disrespects (and 
offends) a large number of readers. ;-)
'

Re: should CLI have a nice UI today?

[debian-user]

Nicolas George  wrote:
> to...@tuxteam.de (12023-03-29):
> > Perhaps roughly 3k to 4k years of storing, transmitting and
> > retrieving information in written form have a part in it.
> > 
> > It may be a social convention, but by now it runs so deep that I'm
> > convinced you'll find epigenetic traces of it in us humans.  
> 
> Or perhaps those 3-4K years of storing information have selected a
> format that is close to the best possible with the limitations of our
> brains, our eyes and our hands.
> 
> Keyboards are roughly 150 years old: it is possible we find some
> improvement on the way they are designed that makes entering data more
> efficient.
> 
> On the other hand, computers have not changed the fact that data
> enters us mostly as images and sound, so I predict it is unlikely we
> find means significantly more efficient than reading.

Hmm, I suppose Neuralink et al might disagree with you. Only partly in
jest :)

Re: rtorrent man page, Jari "Rakshasa" Sundell mail bounces

[Emanuel Berg]

davidson wrote:

>> I tried to mail him but that mail bounces, apparently it's
>> an alias which expands into ja...@student.matnat.uio.no but
>> it's a "Gone", 550.
>
> I found the page below in my bookmarks.
>
> https://github.com/rakshasa/rtorrent/wiki#user-content-stuff
>
>   This project is developed by Jari Sundell, "Rakshasa",
>   a former student of computer science, math and Japanese at
>   the University of Oslo. He can be reached on
>   sundell.softw...@gmail.com, also an unofficial help
>   channel may be found at ##rtorr...@irc.freenode.net which
>   should be used for user-support.
>
>   If you didn't get a reply to a mail sent to this address,
>   it may either mean he is busy, has a rather full inbox or
>   that you should have searched the internet first.
>
> Maybe the contact information is current.

Cool, thanks.

So the man page should be updated, does it belong to the
distribution per se or how does that work?

-- 
underground experts united
https://dataswamp.org/~incal

Re: Strange locally-originating spam messages from sport.qc.ca

[Reco]

Hi.

On Thu, Mar 30, 2023 at 09:30:49AM +0100, Julian Gilbey wrote:
> I wonder if anyone has any idea about how to track this down?

I'd check /var/log/exim4/mainlog first, obviously.
For instance, your mail was sent to my MTA by bendel.d.o, as is
should be:

$ grep ZmNnhCgr7-N.A.uSE.A2UJkB /var/log/exim4/mainlog
2023-03-30 10:51:15 1pho03-QZ-9B <= 
bounce-debian-user=deb=enotuniq@lists.debian.org H=bendel.debian.org 
[82.195.75.100] P=esmtps 
X=TLS1.3:ECDHE_X25519__ECDSA_SECP384R1_SHA384__AES_256_GCM:256 CV=no S=5087 
id=ZmNnhCgr7-N.A.uSE.A2UJkB@bendel

Reco

Re: Strange locally-originating spam messages from sport.qc.ca

[Jeremy Ardley]

On 30/3/23 16:30, Julian Gilbey wrote:

I'm getting a significant number of spam messages being sent to my MTA
(exim) for the address FRPJXbKeKuek at sport.qc.ca, and now I'm
starting to see some sent to www-data at aether.toine.be.  What is
disturbing is that the machine is on a local network, and my
internet-facing router does not forward anything to this machine.  So
I presume that these mails are originating from the machine itself.


The first problem I see is you have just published the internal DNS name 
of a machine in your local network.


bots will at this moment be scouring this mailing list and recording the 
internal dns name.


More intelligent bots will be able to pair your email address and server 
and the internal dns name and make a guess your internal server has a 
user www-data that can receive emails.


Hence you get emails to your public email server addressed to your 
internal server.


in 99.99% of the cases that won't be a problem. But in a small number of 
cases it will be.


--
Jeremy
(Lists)

Strange locally-originating spam messages from sport.qc.ca

[Julian Gilbey]

I'm getting a significant number of spam messages being sent to my MTA
(exim) for the address FRPJXbKeKuek at sport.qc.ca, and now I'm
starting to see some sent to www-data at aether.toine.be.  What is
disturbing is that the machine is on a local network, and my
internet-facing router does not forward anything to this machine.  So
I presume that these mails are originating from the machine itself.

I have another machine on the same network that is internet-facing and
also receives similar messages.

I don't know how to track down the source of these mails, and I wonder
if somehow my machine has picked up some sort of virus.

I wonder if anyone has any idea about how to track this down?

Thanks!

   Julian

Re: can't see shared printers from clients o local network

[Jeremy Ardley]

On 30/3/23 16:32, gene heskett wrote:

Greetings all;

hosts based local 192.158.xx.yy network.

cups at localhost:631 on any buster machine sees my printers just 
fine, and the buster machines can print to them.


Those machines running bullseye aren't allowed. can't see my printers 
unless I send ff to the ipv4 address of this machine.


This machine with the printers attached to its usb ports is an 
uptodate bullseye.


One scanner/printer also has an ipv4 address on the local net, but 
that is not found by the bullseye machines either.


What is preventing a bullseye machine from seeing my printers?

Thank You.

Cheers, Gene Heskett.



Debian 10 and 11 both use the Common Unix Printing System (CUPS) for 
printer management. CUPS comes with a tool called "Avahi" that allows 
for automatic discovery of network printers that support the Bonjour or 
Zeroconf protocols.


When a printer that supports Bonjour/Zeroconf is connected to the 
network, it announces itself to the network using Multicast Domain Name 
System (mDNS) protocol. The Avahi daemon running on Debian listens for 
these announcements and creates a local service for each printer 
discovered. The printer should then be automatically available for use 
in CUPS.


In your case see whether avahi is running, and if not, enable it.

--
Jeremy
(Lists)

Re: rtorrent man page, Jari "Rakshasa" Sundell mail bounces

[davidson]

On Thu, 30 Mar 2023 Emanuel Berg wrote:

FYI the man page for rtorrent, from 2015-02-25, has this part

AUTHORS
  Jari "Rakshasa" Sundell 

I tried to mail him but that mail bounces, apparently it's an
alias which expands into ja...@student.matnat.uio.no but it's
a "Gone", 550.


I found the page below in my bookmarks.

https://github.com/rakshasa/rtorrent/wiki#user-content-stuff

  This project is developed by Jari Sundell, "Rakshasa", a former
  student of computer science, math and Japanese at the University of
  Oslo. He can be reached on sundell.softw...@gmail.com, also an
  unofficial help channel may be found at ##rtorr...@irc.freenode.net
  which should be used for user-support.

  If you didn't get a reply to a mail sent to this address, it may
  either mean he is busy, has a rather full inbox or that you should
  have searched the internet first.

Maybe the contact information is current.

--
Too many critics and not enough general gosh-wow.  -- CJ Cherryh

Re: what's the right way to resolve localhost's IPs

[fh]

On 2023-03-30 13:38, Emanuel Berg wrote:

fh wrote:


In my shell script, how to get the localhost's IPs (eth0 and
eth1) correctly? I know I can run 'ifconfig' and grep etc,
but it's maybe not that graceful.


Here is what I do, now idea if it's a good idea but maybe it
can help:

#! /bin/zsh
#
# this file:
#   https://dataswamp.org/~incal/conf/.zsh/ip

public-ip () {
local name=$funcstack[1]
local url='http://checkip.amazonaws.com'
local open_dns=opendns.com
echo $(curl --no-progress-meter $url) "($name)"
dig +short myip.${open_dns} @resolver1.${open_dns}
}

inet () {
local name=$funcstack[1]
echo $(hostname -I | awk '{print $1}') "($name)"
ifconfig $net | awk '/mask/{print $2}'
ip addr show $net | awk '/inet /{print $2}' | cut -d '/' -f 1
}

list-ip () {
public-ip
inet
}
alias lip=list-ip

# $ lip
# 92.34.142.23
# 92.34.142.23
# 192.168.10.224
# 192.168.10.224
# 192.168.10.224



i like the JSON output just b/c I am a programmer knowing JSON pretty 
well. :)

Re: should CLI have a nice UI today?

[David Christensen]

On 3/24/23 04:32, cor...@free.fr wrote:

Hello,

Should CLI (command line interface) have a nice UI library?
today web dev has so many libraries that make web pages with 
rich/colorful interactive views.

But CLI is still in dull mode. That should be improved in these days.
for example, run "df -h" we got the statistics with plain text. But web 
statistics for cloud storage (GCP,AWS etc) are chart like, which give 
people more intuitive feeling.


Thanks
Corey H.



Unix Pipeline (Brian Kernighan) - Computerphile

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKzonnwoR2I


"The Mess We're In" by Joe Armstrong

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKXe3HUG2l4


David