Re: Email clients and IMAP search support

[황병희]

2023-04-26 (수), 15:19 +0200, Loris Bennett:
> Lionel Élie Mamane  writes:
> 
> > On Sun, Apr 16, 2023 at 05:01:53PM +0100, Andre Rodier wrote:
> > 
> > > Is there any desktop email client on Debian, that supports server
> > > side IMAP search, please ?
> > 
> > mutt makes a server-side search when the search operator starts
> > with
> > "=" instead of "~"; this also means that it is a string search
> > rather
> > than a regexp search, if I understand correctly this is due to the
> > IMAP protocol search not supporting regexps.
> > 
> > So e.g. "=s f.o" makes a server-side search for the exact string
> > "f.o"
> > in the subject, but "~s f.o" makes a client-side search in subject
> > for
> > f, then any character, then o.
> 
> With Gnus on Emacs you can run general IMAP queries:
> 
>   Example: C-u G G ON "17-Aug-2011" RET imap RET
>   Other keywords: SUBJECT TO FROM BEFORE SINCE
>   See: http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1730#section-6.4.4
> 
> Cheers,

Hellow Loris!

Wow thanks for using Gnus^^^

Next time i will try it, thanks!


Sincerely, Byung-Hee from South Korea

Re: Logging off an X session closes all ssh -X connections started previously from outside X

[David]

On Thu, 4 May 2023 at 19:07, zithro  wrote:

> this is a rather strange problem, I hope the title is explicit enough.

Subject: Logging off an X session closes all ssh -X connections
started previously from outside X

> Here is what happens chronologically :
>
> 1. I start various SSH connections to a host, some normal, some with X
> forwarding, like that: "ssh user@host" and "ssh -X -n user@host GUI_APP"
> (like firejail firefox, firejail thunderbird, etc). There's no user
> connected under X yet, only the greeter is displayed.
>
> 2. using VNC or rdesktop, I then log on to X on the machine, do some
> stuff, then hit "log off" from the desktop menu.
> Immediately, ALL the previous SSH connections started in step 1 get
> closed, hence all the shells and the GUI apps (firefox, etc) !
>
> Everything is done using the same local and remote users (same UID but
> different names). sshd is the parent process of all my remote SSH sessions.
>
> I don't get how apps and shells NOT started via the X session, moreover
> previously to its creation, are closed when the X session closes, what's
> happening here ?!

> As the outcome is the same with VNC and rdesktop, I guess the problem is
> lying in the OS. Could it be related to logind ? Or an SSH(d) setting ?

That sounds like what is documented here, with the solution at the end:

$ apt show dbus-user-session
Package: dbus-user-session
Version: 1.12.24-0+deb11u1
[... some output snipped for brevity ...]
Description: simple interprocess messaging system (systemd --user integration)
 D-Bus is a message bus, used for sending messages between applications.
 Conceptually, it fits somewhere in between raw sockets and CORBA in
 terms of complexity.
 .
 On systemd systems, this package opts in to the session model in which
 a user's session starts the first time they log in, and does not end
 until all their login sessions have ended. This model merges all
 parallel non-graphical login sessions (text mode, ssh, cron, etc.), and up
 to one graphical session, into a single "user-session" or "super-session"
 within which all background D-Bus services are shared.
 .
 Multiple graphical sessions per user are not currently supported in this
 mode; as a result, it is particularly suitable for gdm, which responds to
 requests to open a parallel graphical session by switching to the existing
 graphical session and unlocking it.
 .
 To retain dbus' traditional session semantics, in which login sessions
 are artificially isolated from each other, remove this package and install
 dbus-x11 instead.
 [...]

Re: What settings should be used for VM?

[Jeffrey Walton]

On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 8:42 AM Igor Korot  wrote:
>
> I am trying install Debian Buster on the VirtualBox as a guest.
>
> I set the VM to use HostOnly network with DHCP enabled, but when I ran the 
> installer it failed to auto-configure the network.
>
> How do I solve it?

The Debain wiki for VirtualBox was updated. A section was added for
"Guest networking setup" at
https://wiki.debian.org/VirtualBox#Guest_networking_setup .

Please update it as required so the next person can sidestep the
issues you experienced.

Jeff

Re: Logging off an X session closes all ssh -X connections started previously from outside X

[tomas]

On Fri, May 05, 2023 at 09:13:04AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote:
> On 05/05/2023 02:07, zithro wrote:
> > 2. using VNC or rdesktop, I then log on to X on the machine, do some
> > stuff, then hit "log off" from the desktop menu.

[...]

> Perhaps it may be related to user D-Bus sessions, however I would expect
> that ssh GUI app has its own bus created by dbus-launch.

dbus is a candidate. Let me explain: I have a funny setup -- no systemd,
no dbus (still, Debian buster, and X).

At some point in time, the browser (firefox) brought in dbus via some
dependencies. Annoyed, I killed dbus -- and poof, all browser instances
were gone.

If I inhibit dbus from starting, the browsers run fine without it. My
hunch is that they keep an open socket conection to the dbus and die
on SIGPIPE or some such.

So yes, if all those apps are sharing "the" session dbus, possibly
started by whoever came first *and* the logout takes the session
dbus down, this might be an explanation.

Now don't ask me why I try to avoid that ;-)

Cheers
-- 
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Re: Wi-Fi broken on Dell E6520, Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6205 AGN, Debian 11.7 Xfce

[David Christensen]

On 5/4/23 19:52, David Christensen wrote:
That said, Wi-Fi does not work with my Ubuiquitti Networks UniFi setup 
-- it doesn't like the MAC address.



A further problem -- Debian is changing the MAC address of the Wi-Fi 
adapter ("MAC address spoofing", a security "feature") to MAC addresses 
that my networking equipment (Ubiquiti Networks UniFi) detects as invalid:


"This field must be a valid MAC address"


The solution was to change the Wi-Fi settings in Debian:

Xfce Panel
-> right-click NetworkManager Applet
  -> Edit Connections
-> wifi.tracy.holgerdanske.com
  -> gear (Edit the selected connection"
   -> Wi-Fi
 -> Cloned MAC Address -> Permanent.


David

Re: Auto-completion in Terminal

[Jeffrey Walton]

On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 11:39 PM Igor Korot  wrote:
>
> I successfully installed Debian Buster on the VM.
> Then I put in the Gues Additions CD in, open the Terminal, became root and 
> tried to do
>
> [code]
> ./VBox
> [/code]
>
> and then I pressed TAB, but nothing happened.
>
> What is going on?

You probably need to `bash ./VBox`. I'm guessing something is
missing an execute bit.

But take a look at https://wiki.debian.org/VirtualBox before you go
further. It may be easier to let Debian provide guest additions.
Otherwise, you will have to [re]build with every kernel update.

Jeff

Auto-completion in Terminal

[Igor Korot]

Hi,
I successfully installed Debian Buster on the VM.
Then I put in the Gues Additions CD in, open the Terminal, became root and
tried to do

[code]
./VBox
[/code]

and then I pressed TAB, but nothing happened.

What is going on?

Thank you.

Re: Logging off an X session closes all ssh -X connections started previously from outside X

[David Wright]

On Fri 05 May 2023 at 09:13:04 (+0700), Max Nikulin wrote:
> On 05/05/2023 02:07, zithro wrote:
> > 2. using VNC or rdesktop, I then log on to X on the machine, do
> > some stuff, then hit "log off" from the desktop menu.
> > Immediately, ALL the previous SSH connections started in step 1
> > get closed, hence all the shells and the GUI apps (firefox, etc) !
> 
> Have you inspected journalctl output (as root) around the "log off" moment?
> 
> A wild guess is that it might be force close of systemd user session,
> however it should not happen. Try to compare systemd-cgls (user .slice
> and .scope), "loginctl list-users", "loginctl list-sessions" on each
> step.
> 
> Perhaps it may be related to user D-Bus sessions, however I would
> expect that ssh GUI app has its own bus created by dbus-launch.
> 
> Does it happen for newly created user with no customization?

Isn't it this issue?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19023885

I'm afraid I can't replicate the problem, though, as I don't have
a "log off" button or menu entry. That might suggest that the
problem is in something I don't run, like the DE or DM. (I assume
we're all using systemd.)

When I run multiple jobs through multiple ssh commands, I find
they're in different scopes, eg:

0::/user.slice/user-1000.slice/session-229.scope
0::/user.slice/user-1000.slice/session-230.scope

(To see the slice and scope, add cgroup to your ps command.
Add it as the last option, or its output might get truncated.)

When you've logged in to X, what slice/scopes do you see for X and
the processes you previously started? Are they all the same?

I think I've read that the way to get round this (or "go with the
flow") is to run the earlier processes as user services under systemd,
but I've not tried it.

Cheers,
David.

Re: What settings should be used for VM?

[Igor Korot]

Hi, guys

On Thu, May 4, 2023, 11:03 AM Igor Korot  wrote:

> zithro,
>
> On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 10:16 AM zithro  wrote:
> >
> > On 04 May 2023 14:42, Igor Korot wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > I am trying install Debian Buster on the VirtualBox as a guest.
> > >
> > > I set the VM to use HostOnly network with DHCP enabled, but when I ran
> the
> > > installer it failed to auto-configure the network.
> > >
> > > How do I solve it?
> > >
> > > Thank you.
> > >
> > > P.S.: I need python 2, therefore trying to use older version.
> > >
> >
> > Host-only network is only useful to allow network communications between
> > the host and the guest, but not to the outside (local network, internet,
> > etc). It's like an isolated bridge.
> > You can also put several VMs on this bridge so they can communicate
> > together.
> >
> > Do you need internet access on this VM for your python developments ?
> > Because if not, just download a full version (DVD ?) of the installer
> > and then do everything offline.
> >
> > If you need internet, you will have to use NAT, but you got the pointer
> > already.
>
> I will try to use NAT then.
>

Thank you,
NAT worked.


> Thank you.
>
> >
>

Re: Wi-Fi broken on Dell E6520, Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6205 AGN, Debian 11.7 Xfce

[David Christensen]

On 5/4/23 18:12, zithro wrote:

On 05 May 2023 01:55, David Christensen wrote:

Try Enable Wi-Fi a couple three more  times -- nope

Try Debian 9 -- nope.

Try Windows 7 Pro -- nope.

It looks like I have a dead Wi-Fi adapter.


Or a dead Wifi killswitch (the physical radio button) ?



I tested the wireless switch and was seeing messages in /var/log/syslog. 
 Without a known good Wi-Fi adapter and a known good switch, I cannot 
determine if one or both are good or bad.



The "Dell Latitude E6520 Owner's Manual" includes instructions for 
replacing the Wireless Local Area Network (WLAN) Card.  It's 12 steps 
and I've done those before.



The "Dell Latitude E6520 Owner's Manual" includes instructions for 
removing and installing the Wireless Switch Board.  You have to dig deep 
-- 26 steps.




Last thought, don't you have :
- a mechanical ON/OFF button (I mean like on your walls for the lights)
- AND a Fn+keyboard key combo to toggle Wifi (enable/disable) ?



The keyboard has a dedicated "Fn" key and a few other keys with extra 
symbols in the same color.  I looked hard for a Wi-Fi symbol, but never 
found one.  I seem to recall that the wireless switch on the side is the 
only hardware user interface on this laptop.



"Dell Latitude E6420/E6520 Setup and Features Information" documents the
"wireless switch" on the right side, but does not document the "Fn" and 
related keys on the keyboard.



"Dell Latitude E6520 Owner's Manual" only mentions using "Fn" key to 
enable/disable the keyboard embedded keyboard.




On my old Thinkpad, I have both, whereas on a newer model I only have 
the Fn+key combo.



My older Dell Inspiron E1505 has the the Fn+key combo.




Thank you for the help.  :-)


Np, sorry for your loss ^^



I was going to surf eBay and find another Wi-Fi card, but then I had one 
last idea -- double-checking the the CMOS/NVRAM settings via Setup.  I 
cut the settings down to the bare minimum for Wi-Fi:


  Settings
  + Wireless
+ Wireless Switch
|WWAN   unchecked
|WLAN   checked
|Bluetooth  unchecked
+  Wireless Device Enable
 WWAN   unchecked
 WLAN   checked
 Bluetooth  unchecked
  -> Apply
  -> Exit


Now Wi-Fi works with my AT residential gateway.


I know the machine has Wi-Fi and it does not have WWAN.  I don't know if 
the Wi-Fi card includes Bluetooth.  But, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it'.



That said, Wi-Fi does not work with my Ubuiquitti Networks UniFi setup 
-- it doesn't like the MAC address.



Damn infernal computers and networks...


David

Re: Logging off an X session closes all ssh -X connections started previously from outside X

[Max Nikulin]

On 05/05/2023 02:07, zithro wrote:
2. using VNC or rdesktop, I then log on to X on the machine, do some 
stuff, then hit "log off" from the desktop menu.
Immediately, ALL the previous SSH connections started in step 1 get 
closed, hence all the shells and the GUI apps (firefox, etc) !


Have you inspected journalctl output (as root) around the "log off" moment?

A wild guess is that it might be force close of systemd user session, 
however it should not happen. Try to compare systemd-cgls (user .slice 
and .scope), "loginctl list-users", "loginctl list-sessions" on each step.


Perhaps it may be related to user D-Bus sessions, however I would expect 
that ssh GUI app has its own bus created by dbus-launch.


Does it happen for newly created user with no customization?

Re: Need some advice please.

[황병희]

2023-05-05 (금), 03:37 +0200, zithro:
> On 05 May 2023 03:12, Byung-Hee HWANG wrote:
> > Usually i do backup into Google Drive (with only very important
> > files).
> > So if system is crash, i go to re-install entire after format.
> 
> I hope you encrypt your data, and you have a good internet connection
> !
> The easiest and fastest way to backup is on DVD/USB/external drive,
> so 
> that you can restore offline.
> (Ok ok, some internet connections are faster than a DVD/USB/ext drive
> !)
> If on USB/external drive, preferably format the drive so it can be
> read 
> on multiple OS. So prefer FAT32/exFAT, and avoid ext4, ZFS, NTFS,
> APFS, etc.
> 
> Follow the "3-2-1 rule" :
> 
> "The 3-2-1 rule [...] states that there should be at least *3 copies*
> of 
> the data, stored on *2 different types of storage* media, and *one
> copy 
> should be kept offsite*, in a remote location (this can include cloud
> storage)"
> 
> Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backup
> 

Thanks zithro!

Sincerely, Byung-Hee (Debian Bullseye user)

Re: Need some advice please.

[zithro]

On 05 May 2023 03:12, Byung-Hee HWANG wrote:

Usually i do backup into Google Drive (with only very important files).
So if system is crash, i go to re-install entire after format.


I hope you encrypt your data, and you have a good internet connection !
The easiest and fastest way to backup is on DVD/USB/external drive, so 
that you can restore offline.

(Ok ok, some internet connections are faster than a DVD/USB/ext drive !)
If on USB/external drive, preferably format the drive so it can be read 
on multiple OS. So prefer FAT32/exFAT, and avoid ext4, ZFS, NTFS, APFS, etc.


Follow the "3-2-1 rule" :

"The 3-2-1 rule [...] states that there should be at least *3 copies* of 
the data, stored on *2 different types of storage* media, and *one copy 
should be kept offsite*, in a remote location (this can include cloud 
storage)"


Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backup

Re: Need some advice please.

[zithro]

On 05 May 2023 03:02, Maureen L Thomas wrote:> I need to start writing 
down everything I do so I don't forget again.
This is one of the best advice you can follow, and don't think it's 
because of your age !
We ALL forget stuff we only do once in a while, and not only with 
computers ...


Just remember where your notes are, and that they must be saved on 
different media ;)

Re: Need some advice please.

[Byung-Hee HWANG]

Dear Thomas,

Maureen L Thomas  writes:

> I should have thought of that.  Thank you for your help.  I need to
> start writing down everything I do so I don't forget again.

Usually i do backup into Google Drive (with only very important files).
So if system is crash, i go to re-install entire after format.

This is my way (easy and stable).


Sincerely, Byung-Hee (Debian Bullseye user)

-- 
^고맙습니다 _布德天下_ 감사합니다_^))//

Re: Wi-Fi broken on Dell E6520, Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6205 AGN, Debian 11.7 Xfce

[zithro]

On 05 May 2023 01:55, David Christensen wrote:

Try Enable Wi-Fi a couple three more  times -- nope

Try Debian 9 -- nope.

Try Windows 7 Pro -- nope.

It looks like I have a dead Wi-Fi adapter.


Or a dead Wifi killswitch (the physical radio button) ?

Last thought, don't you have :
- a mechanical ON/OFF button (I mean like on your walls for the lights)
- AND a Fn+keyboard key combo to toggle Wifi (enable/disable) ?

On my old Thinkpad, I have both, whereas on a newer model I only have 
the Fn+key combo.



Thank you for the help.  :-)


Np, sorry for your loss ^^

Re: Need some advice please.

[Maureen L Thomas]

I should have thought of that.  Thank you for your help.  I need to 
start writing down everything I do so I don't forget again.


On 5/4/23 8:53 PM, David Christensen wrote:

On 5/4/23 17:43, Maureen L Thomas wrote:

On 5/4/23 8:26 PM, David Christensen wrote:

So, your Lenovo Think[Center|Light|Pad|Station] has two (2) USB 2.0
or 3.0 type-A ports?

Can you plug the mouse and the keyboard into the hub, plug the hub
into the computer, and plug the USB HDD into the computer?



The mouse is plugged into the computer back and the keyboard is 
plugged into the USB hub.  I could unplug the mouse and use it for
the hard drive.  That would probably work but I would have to do 
everything with the keyboard if I remember how to not use a mouse, 
LOL.  But it would work, yes?



Unplug the mouse from the computer and plug it into the hub, then plug 
the USB HDD into the computer; everything should work.



David

Re: Need some advice please.

[David Christensen]

On 5/4/23 17:43, Maureen L Thomas wrote:

On 5/4/23 8:26 PM, David Christensen wrote:

So, your Lenovo Think[Center|Light|Pad|Station] has two (2) USB 2.0
or 3.0 type-A ports?

Can you plug the mouse and the keyboard into the hub, plug the hub
into the computer, and plug the USB HDD into the computer?



The mouse is plugged into the computer back and the keyboard is 
plugged into the USB hub.  I could unplug the mouse and use it for
the hard drive.  That would probably work but I would have to do 
everything with the keyboard if I remember how to not use a mouse, 
LOL.  But it would work, yes?



Unplug the mouse from the computer and plug it into the hub, then plug 
the USB HDD into the computer; everything should work.



David

Re: Need some advice please.

[Maureen L Thomas]

On 5/4/23 8:26 PM, David Christensen wrote:

On 5/4/23 17:00, Maureen L Thomas wrote:
The USB hub is plugged into the USB on the computer and does not have 
a power adapter with it, the seagate does not have a power adapter 
just a special plug with a usb on one end and the right one for the 
seagate but no power supply.


If I remove the USB hub I will not have a key board to use at all.  
The mouse is plugged into the computer.  I have a Lenovo Think model 
and it does not have enough usb ports.


Before all of this I screwed with the /var and became unable to 
download updates or any files at all and brasero will not work so I 
can back up my home partition.  I screwed the pooch on this one and 
at 72 years old I have forgotten a lot of stuff.



So, your Lenovo Think[Center|Light|Pad|Station] has two (2) USB 2.0 or 
3.0 type-A ports?



Can you plug the mouse and the keyboard into the hub, plug the hub 
into the computer, and plug the USB HDD into the computer?



The mouse is plugged into the computer back and the keyboard is 
plugged into the USB hub.  I could unplug the mouse and use it for the 
hard drive.  That would probably work but I would have to do 
everything with the keyboard if I remember how to not use a mouse, 
LOL.  But it would work, yes?

David

Re: Need some advice please.

[David Christensen]

On 5/4/23 17:00, Maureen L Thomas wrote:
The USB hub is plugged into the USB on the computer and does not have a 
power adapter with it, the seagate does not have a power adapter just a 
special plug with a usb on one end and the right one for the seagate but 
no power supply.


If I remove the USB hub I will not have a key board to use at all.  The 
mouse is plugged into the computer.  I have a Lenovo Think model and it 
does not have enough usb ports.


Before all of this I screwed with the /var and became unable to download 
updates or any files at all and brasero will not work so I can back up 
my home partition.  I screwed the pooch on this one and at 72 years old 
I have forgotten a lot of stuff.



So, your Lenovo Think[Center|Light|Pad|Station] has two (2) USB 2.0 or 
3.0 type-A ports?



Can you plug the mouse and the keyboard into the hub, plug the hub into 
the computer, and plug the USB HDD into the computer?




David

Re: Need some advice please.

[Jeremy Ardley]

On 5/5/23 08:15, Jeremy Ardley wrote:
The harder ways to solve this should work. However you may have to pay 
for at least one drive.


1. Get an external USB drive and a powered USB 3 hub. Then create a 
bootable USB/DVD recovery drive such as knoppix 
http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/index-en.html


Following the instructions at the knoppix site boot the laptop into 
the knoppix installation. Then back up your data to the external USB 
drive.


Then do a clean install of your OS of choice - presumably debian 11 - 
onto the laptop internal drive. Finally recover your files off the USB.


- or -

2. This option requires some disassembly where you replace the hard 
drive in the laptop. This can be done by you or your computer repair 
shop. Then install an OS on the new drive and recover data off the old 
drive by plugging it into a USB caddy.


I forgot one other option. That is get a large bootable USB device such 
as a large USB CF drive or external HDD/SSD. Then going the Knoppix 
route, boot from that, backup your data to the external device, and then 
do a fresh debian 11 install on the laptop drive and finally recover 
your files.


--
Jeremy
(Lists)

Re: Need some advice please.

[Jeremy Ardley]

On 5/5/23 08:00, Maureen L Thomas wrote:
The USB hub is plugged into the USB on the computer and does not have 
a power adapter with it, the seagate does not have a power adapter 
just a special plug with a usb on one end and the right one for the 
seagate but no power supply.


If I remove the USB hub I will not have a key board to use at all.  
The mouse is plugged into the computer.  I have a Lenovo Think model 
and it does not have enough usb ports.


Before all of this I screwed with the /var and became unable to 
download updates or any files at all and brasero will not work so I 
can back up my home partition.  I screwed the pooch on this one and at 
72 years old I have forgotten a lot of stuff.





The harder ways to solve this should work. However you may have to pay 
for at least one drive.


1. Get an external USB drive and a powered USB 3 hub. Then create a 
bootable USB/DVD recovery drive such as knoppix 
http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/index-en.html


Following the instructions at the knoppix site boot the laptop into the 
knoppix installation. Then back up your data to the external USB drive.


Then do a clean install of your OS of choice - presumably debian 11 - 
onto the laptop internal drive. Finally recover your files off the USB.


- or -

2. This option requires some disassembly where you replace the hard 
drive in the laptop. This can be done by you or your computer repair 
shop. Then install an OS on the new drive and recover data off the old 
drive by plugging it into a USB caddy.


--
Jeremy
(Lists)

Re: Need some advice please.

[Maureen L Thomas]

On 5/4/23 7:23 PM, David Christensen wrote:

On 5/4/23 16:03, Maureen L Thomas wrote:
Ok so I cannot download any files to fix my /var section.  I have a 2 
TB seagate that has a USB 3 cord to it.  I do not have an open USB 
port so I plugged it in to my USB hub thingy and it got shut down. 



So, the USB HDD does not have a power adapter; it is powered by USB 
(?). It is powered by USB as it only has one cord with it.



It is no longer usable. 



The USB HDD or the USB hub?   The USB hub no longer works and it does 
not have a power supply.



Have you tried turning everything off, re-patching the USB as it was 
before the failure, and then powering up everyting?   Yes the hub is shot.



So the question is I have a HDMI spot open on the computer and if I 
find a USB adapter to HDMI and plug it in will that work.


I looked and there are many different kinds and most are about 
monitors.  I don't want to blow up my seagate or my computer but am 
at a loss as to which way to go.



AIUI HDMI sends audio/ video signals only, and does not include a USB 
data channel.




I plan on using the sea gate to back up my home partition and then 
install 11.6 on the computer and use the seagate as a back up.


Any ideas would be of great help.



I would connect the USB HDD directly to the computer.   I would but it 
does not have any open USB ports avail.



David

Re: Need some advice please.

[Maureen L Thomas]

The USB hub is plugged into the USB on the computer and does not have a 
power adapter with it, the seagate does not have a power adapter just a 
special plug with a usb on one end and the right one for the seagate but 
no power supply.


If I remove the USB hub I will not have a key board to use at all.  The 
mouse is plugged into the computer.  I have a Lenovo Think model and it 
does not have enough usb ports.


Before all of this I screwed with the /var and became unable to download 
updates or any files at all and brasero will not work so I can back up 
my home partition.  I screwed the pooch on this one and at 72 years old 
I have forgotten a lot of stuff.




HDMI is for monitors, not for USB devices.
Some USB ports can be used as display ports, but the opposite won't 
work. There are no USB to HDMI adapters for your use case.


Is your USB hub self-powered (ie. via a power adapter), or is it only 
using USB ?

Same for the seagate, does it only have a USB port, no power adapter ?

Also, can't you remove the USB hub to plug the Seagate directly to the 
computer ?


Do you have another computer and/or disk drive ?

PS: I didn't follow your previous posts as enough users were helping, 
please gimme the name and/or URL so I can read it

Re: Wi-Fi broken on Dell E6520, Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6205 AGN, Debian 11.7 Xfce

[David Christensen]

On 5/4/23 16:12, zithro wrote:

On 05 May 2023 00:24, David Christensen wrote:

# ls -l /var/lib/systemd/rfkill
total 12
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2 May  4 12:15 pci-:03:00.0:wlan
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2 May 24  2022 pci-:0b:00.0:wlan
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2 May  4 13:04 platform-dell-laptop:wlan


Strange, looks like you have two wlan NICs ? Oh, maybe it's the 
bluetooth module.

Dunno, wireless sucks anyways ^^
So, to determine the correct WLAN adapter run both :

lspci -s 03:00.0
lspci -s 0b:00.0



2023-05-04 16:23:44 root@laalaa ~
# lspci -s 03:00.0
03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Advanced-N 6205 
[Taylor Peak] (rev 34)


2023-05-04 16:23:50 root@laalaa ~
# lspci -s 0b:00.0
0b:00.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): O2 Micro, Inc. 1394 OHCI Compliant Host 
Controller (rev 05)




So, there are three (3) files matching the description offered by 
Christoph Brinkhaus, and they all contain "0\n".


This is strange, he indicated that 0 is for normal ops, and 1 for blocked.


# systemctl --status rfkill
systemctl: unrecognized option '--status'


My bad, it's
# systemctl status rfkill



2023-05-04 16:23:57 root@laalaa ~
# systemctl status rfkill
Unit rfkill.service could not be found.




Is the rfkill *module* loaded ?
# lsmod | grep rfkill

# lsmod | grep rfkill
rfkill 32768  4 dell_laptop,dell_rbtn,cfg80211


Good, it's loaded.
And there's a hint, the module "dell_rbtn", which should mean dell radio 
button.



Is the rfkill *tool* installed ?

# dpkg -l "*rfkill*"
dpkg-query: no packages found matching *rfkill*

If not, install it
# apt install rfkill


You did not install it :p



2023-05-04 16:24:49 root@laalaa ~
# apt install rfkill
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  rfkill
0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 88.6 kB of archives.
After this operation, 151 kB of additional disk space will be used.
Get:1 http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye/main amd64 rfkill amd64 
2.36.1-8+deb11u1 [88.6 kB]

Fetched 88.6 kB in 0s (445 kB/s)
Selecting previously unselected package rfkill.
(Reading database ... 167563 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to unpack .../rfkill_2.36.1-8+deb11u1_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking rfkill (2.36.1-8+deb11u1) ...
Setting up rfkill (2.36.1-8+deb11u1) ...
Processing triggers for man-db (2.9.4-2) ...


Reboot.  Login.  Xfce Panel -> right click NetworkManager -> Enable 
Wi-Fi -- Wi-Fi did not start.  Try Enable Wi-Fi a couple three more 
times -- nope:


2023-05-04 16:32:26 root@laalaa ~
# tail /var/log/syslog
May  4 16:30:37 laalaa systemd[1552]: Reached target Main User Target.
May  4 16:30:37 laalaa systemd[1552]: Startup finished in 125ms.
May  4 16:30:37 laalaa systemd[1]: Started User Manager for UID 0.
May  4 16:30:37 laalaa systemd[1]: Started Session 5 of user root.
May  4 16:31:17 laalaa NetworkManager[850]:   [1683243077.3070] 
audit: op="radio-control" arg="wireless-enabled" pid=1418 uid=13250 
result="success"
May  4 16:32:21 laalaa NetworkManager[850]:   [1683243141.1786] 
audit: op="radio-control" arg="wireless-enabled" pid=1418 uid=13250 
result="success"

May  4 16:32:21 laalaa systemd[1]: Started Run anacron jobs.
May  4 16:32:21 laalaa anacron[1593]: Anacron 2.3 started on 2023-05-04
May  4 16:32:21 laalaa anacron[1593]: Normal exit (0 jobs run)
May  4 16:32:21 laalaa systemd[1]: anacron.service: Succeeded.


Try Debian 9 -- nope.


Try Windows 7 Pro -- nope.


It looks like I have a dead Wi-Fi adapter.


Thank you for the help.  :-)

David

Re: Need some advice please.

[David Christensen]

On 5/4/23 16:03, Maureen L Thomas wrote:
Ok so I cannot download any files to fix my /var section.  I have a 2 TB 
seagate that has a USB 3 cord to it.  I do not have an open USB port so 
I plugged it in to my USB hub thingy and it got shut down. 



So, the USB HDD does not have a power adapter; it is powered by USB (?).


It is no longer usable. 



The USB HDD or the USB hub?


Have you tried turning everything off, re-patching the USB as it was 
before the failure, and then powering up everyting?



So the question is I have a HDMI spot open on the 
computer and if I find a USB adapter to HDMI and plug it in will that work.


I looked and there are many different kinds and most are about 
monitors.  I don't want to blow up my seagate or my computer but am at a 
loss as to which way to go.



AIUI HDMI sends audio/ video signals only, and does not include a USB 
data channel.




I plan on using the sea gate to back up my home partition and then 
install 11.6 on the computer and use the seagate as a back up.


Any ideas would be of great help.



I would connect the USB HDD directly to the computer.


David

Re: Need some advice please.

[zithro]

On 05 May 2023 01:03, Maureen L Thomas wrote:
Ok so I cannot download any files to fix my /var section.  I have a 2 TB 
seagate that has a USB 3 cord to it.  I do not have an open USB port so 
I plugged it in to my USB hub thingy and it got shut down.  It is no 
longer usable.  So the question is I have a HDMI spot open on the 
computer and if I find a USB adapter to HDMI and plug it in will that work.


I looked and there are many different kinds and most are about 
monitors.  I don't want to blow up my seagate or my computer but am at a 
loss as to which way to go.


I plan on using the sea gate to back up my home partition and then 
install 11.6 on the computer and use the seagate as a back up.


Any ideas would be of great help.


HDMI is for monitors, not for USB devices.
Some USB ports can be used as display ports, but the opposite won't 
work. There are no USB to HDMI adapters for your use case.


Is your USB hub self-powered (ie. via a power adapter), or is it only 
using USB ?

Same for the seagate, does it only have a USB port, no power adapter ?

Also, can't you remove the USB hub to plug the Seagate directly to the 
computer ?


Do you have another computer and/or disk drive ?

PS: I didn't follow your previous posts as enough users were helping, 
please gimme the name and/or URL so I can read it

Re: Wi-Fi broken on Dell E6520, Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6205 AGN, Debian 11.7 Xfce

[zithro]

On 05 May 2023 00:24, David Christensen wrote:

# ls -l /var/lib/systemd/rfkill
total 12
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2 May  4 12:15 pci-:03:00.0:wlan
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2 May 24  2022 pci-:0b:00.0:wlan
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2 May  4 13:04 platform-dell-laptop:wlan


Strange, looks like you have two wlan NICs ? Oh, maybe it's the 
bluetooth module.

Dunno, wireless sucks anyways ^^
So, to determine the correct WLAN adapter run both :

lspci -s 03:00.0
lspci -s 0b:00.0

So, there are three (3) files matching the description offered by 
Christoph Brinkhaus, and they all contain "0\n".


This is strange, he indicated that 0 is for normal ops, and 1 for blocked.


# systemctl --status rfkill
systemctl: unrecognized option '--status'


My bad, it's
# systemctl status rfkill


Is the rfkill *module* loaded ?
# lsmod | grep rfkill

# lsmod | grep rfkill
rfkill 32768  4 dell_laptop,dell_rbtn,cfg80211


Good, it's loaded.
And there's a hint, the module "dell_rbtn", which should mean dell radio 
button.



Is the rfkill *tool* installed ?

# dpkg -l "*rfkill*"
dpkg-query: no packages found matching *rfkill*

If not, install it
# apt install rfkill


You did not install it :p

Need some advice please.

[Maureen L Thomas]

Ok so I cannot download any files to fix my /var section.  I have a 2 TB 
seagate that has a USB 3 cord to it.  I do not have an open USB port so 
I plugged it in to my USB hub thingy and it got shut down.  It is no 
longer usable.  So the question is I have a HDMI spot open on the 
computer and if I find a USB adapter to HDMI and plug it in will that work.


I looked and there are many different kinds and most are about 
monitors.  I don't want to blow up my seagate or my computer but am at a 
loss as to which way to go.


I plan on using the sea gate to back up my home partition and then 
install 11.6 on the computer and use the seagate as a back up.


Any ideas would be of great help.

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Re: Email bodies not show anymore in Evolution Email

[황병희]

2023-05-04 (목), 18:21 +, Jim Popovitch:
> On May 4, 2023 6:13:04 PM UTC, Cindy Sue Causey <
> butterflyby...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > The security involvement appears to be that one current fix is to
> > downgrade which "leaves the user with an unpatched version of
> > WebKit".
> > 
> > Cindy :)
> 
> While that wasn't my intention when I wrote it, I'm happy to see the
> rush of attention that got this issue resolved for everyone. 
> Excellent job Debian team! 
> 

Also i resolved, thanks!

Sincerely, Byung-Hee

Re: Wi-Fi broken on Dell E6520, Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6205 AGN, Debian 11.7 Xfce

[David Christensen]

On 5/4/23 14:59, zithro wrote:

On 04 May 2023 23:26, David Christensen wrote:

On 5/4/23 13:36, Christoph Brinkhaus wrote:

Am Thu, May 04, 2023 at 01:14:12PM -0700 schrieb David Christensen:



[   80.070510] iwlwifi :03:00.0: reporting RF_KILL (radio disabled)
[   80.070571] iwlwifi :03:00.0: RF_KILL bit toggled to disable 
radio.


This indicates rfkill is effectively blocking the wlan: "radio disabled"


There is a directory /var/lib/systemd/rfkill/ which holds a file named
by the Wi-Fi device. Here it is pci-:04:00.0:wlan. The content is
just a 0 for normal operation or 1 for Wi-Fi off which means RF_Kill.

Please check that file on your system and replace a possible 1 by a 0.



There is no /var/lib/systemd directory on the laptop:



Maybe it's elsewhere in /var ?
$ find /var -type d -name rfkill

Or in sysfs :
$ find /sys -type d -name rfkill

Else, look everywhere ^^



Thank you for replying.  :-)


D'oh!  The previous post was the wrong machine...


This is the laptop:

2023-05-04 15:10:58 root@laalaa ~
# find / -xdev -name rfkill
/var/lib/systemd/rfkill
/usr/src/linux-headers-5.10.0-22-amd64/include/config/rfkill
/usr/src/linux-headers-5.10.0-21-amd64/include/config/rfkill
/usr/lib/modules/5.10.0-21-amd64/kernel/net/rfkill
/usr/lib/modules/5.10.0-22-amd64/kernel/net/rfkill

2023-05-04 15:13:04 root@laalaa ~
# ls -l /var/lib/systemd/rfkill
total 12
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2 May  4 12:15 pci-:03:00.0:wlan
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2 May 24  2022 pci-:0b:00.0:wlan
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2 May  4 13:04 platform-dell-laptop:wlan

2023-05-04 15:13:13 root@laalaa ~
# file /var/lib/systemd/rfkill/*
/var/lib/systemd/rfkill/pci-:03:00.0:wlan: ASCII text
/var/lib/systemd/rfkill/pci-:0b:00.0:wlan: ASCII text
/var/lib/systemd/rfkill/platform-dell-laptop:wlan: ASCII text

2023-05-04 15:13:39 root@laalaa ~
# cat /var/lib/systemd/rfkill/pci-\:03\:00.0\:wlan
0

2023-05-04 15:14:35 root@laalaa ~
# cat /var/lib/systemd/rfkill/pci-\:0b\:00.0\:wlan
0

2023-05-04 15:14:48 root@laalaa ~
# cat /var/lib/systemd/rfkill/platform-dell-laptop\:wlan
0

2023-05-04 15:17:53 root@laalaa ~
# hexdump /var/lib/systemd/rfkill/platform-dell-laptop\:wlan
  30 0a |0.|
0002


So, there are three (3) files matching the description offered by 
Christoph Brinkhaus, and they all contain "0\n".




Things to check :

Check the status via systemctl (didn't know there was a service):
# systemctl --status rfkill



2023-05-04 15:15:40 root@laalaa ~
# systemctl --status rfkill
systemctl: unrecognized option '--status'



Is the rfkill *module* loaded ?
# lsmod | grep rfkill



2023-05-04 15:15:49 root@laalaa ~
# lsmod | grep rfkill
rfkill 32768  4 dell_laptop,dell_rbtn,cfg80211



If nothing, try loading the module :
# modprobe rfkill

Is the rfkill *tool* installed ?
# dpkg -l "*rfkill*"



2023-05-04 15:17:28 root@laalaa ~
# dpkg -l "*rfkill*"
dpkg-query: no packages found matching *rfkill*



If not, install it
# apt install rfkill



Comments or suggestions?


David

Re: Wi-Fi broken on Dell E6520, Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6205 AGN, Debian 11.7 Xfce

[zithro]

On 04 May 2023 23:26, David Christensen wrote:

On 5/4/23 13:36, Christoph Brinkhaus wrote:

Am Thu, May 04, 2023 at 01:14:12PM -0700 schrieb David Christensen:



[   80.070510] iwlwifi :03:00.0: reporting RF_KILL (radio disabled)
[   80.070571] iwlwifi :03:00.0: RF_KILL bit toggled to disable radio.


This indicates rfkill is effectively blocking the wlan: "radio disabled"


There is a directory /var/lib/systemd/rfkill/ which holds a file named
by the Wi-Fi device. Here it is pci-:04:00.0:wlan. The content is
just a 0 for normal operation or 1 for Wi-Fi off which means RF_Kill.

Please check that file on your system and replace a possible 1 by a 0.



There is no /var/lib/systemd directory on the laptop:



Maybe it's elsewhere in /var ?
$ find /var -type d -name rfkill

Or in sysfs :
$ find /sys -type d -name rfkill

Else, look everywhere ^^

Things to check :

Check the status via systemctl (didn't know there was a service):
# systemctl --status rfkill

Is the rfkill *module* loaded ?
# lsmod | grep rfkill
If nothing, try loading the module :
# modprobe rfkill

Is the rfkill *tool* installed ?
# dpkg -l "*rfkill*"
If not, install it
# apt install rfkill

Re: Buster / Google Remote Desktop, rustdesk.com

[Geert Stappers]

On Thu, May 04, 2023 at 10:34:10PM +0100, Gareth Evans wrote:
> On 4 May 2023, at 22:20, Geert Stappers  wrote:
> > On Thu, May 04, 2023 at 10:10:51PM +0100, Gareth Evans wrote:
> >>> On 4 May 2023, at 22:00, zithro  wrote:
> >>> 29 Apr 2023 05:31, Gareth Evans wrote:
>  It seems Google Remote Desktop, a Chrome extension, does not work
>  properly with Buster + Mate.  I haven't tried with Bullseye, which
>  is not an option in the environment concerned due to CUPS bugs,
>  but in Buster there is about 5 seconds of remote-mouse-movement
>  then no more.
>  Does anyone know of a way to fix this, or any other approach that
>  might work through a mobile broadband router (at the 'controlled'
>  end) where there is no option to fwd ports?
>  Thanks,
>  Gareth
> >>> 
> >> 
> >>> Teamviewer ?
> >>> https://www.teamviewer.com/en-us/download/linux/
> >>> 
> >> 
> >> Why didn't I think of that?! Thanks.
> >> 
> >> I actually replaced the OS at the controlled end with Ubuntu 22.04
> >> for the time being (where Google Remote Desktop works flawlessly with
> >> Chrome) but will look into things again when Bookworm is released.
> > 
> 
> } And have a look at https://rustdesk.com/
> > It is a open source TeamViewer alternative.
> 
> Thanks, I will do, though I think you mean rustdesk.com - the above link 
> (...deck.com) leads to unrelated ads
 
Sorry, for the typo.   ( fixed in this message )


Groeten
Geert Stappers
-- 
Silence is hard to parse

Re: Buster / Google Remote Desktop

[Gareth Evans]

> On 4 May 2023, at 22:20, Geert Stappers  wrote:
> 
> On Thu, May 04, 2023 at 10:10:51PM +0100, Gareth Evans wrote:
>>> On 4 May 2023, at 22:00, zithro  wrote:
>>> 29 Apr 2023 05:31, Gareth Evans wrote:
 It seems Google Remote Desktop, a Chrome extension, does not work
 properly with Buster + Mate.  I haven't tried with Bullseye, which
 is not an option in the environment concerned due to CUPS bugs,
 but in Buster there is about 5 seconds of remote-mouse-movement
 then no more.
 Does anyone know of a way to fix this, or any other approach that
 might work through a mobile broadband router (at the 'controlled'
 end) where there is no option to fwd ports?
 Thanks,
 Gareth
>>> 
>> 
>>> Teamviewer ?
>>> https://www.teamviewer.com/en-us/download/linux/
>>> 
>> 
>> Why didn't I think of that?! Thanks.
>> 
>> I actually replaced the OS at the controlled end with Ubuntu 22.04
>> for the time being (where Google Remote Desktop works flawlessly with
>> Chrome) but will look into things again when Bookworm is released.
> 

> And have a look at https://rustdeck.com/
> It is a open source TeamViewer alternative.

Thanks, I will do, though I think you mean rustdesk.com - the above link 
(...deck.com) leads to unrelated ads

> 
> 
>> Many thanks,
>> Gareth
> 
> 
> May the fourth be with you
> Geert Stappers
> -- 
> Silence is hard to parse
> 

Re: Wi-Fi broken on Dell E6520, Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6205 AGN, Debian 11.7 Xfce

[David Christensen]

On 5/4/23 13:36, Christoph Brinkhaus wrote:

Am Thu, May 04, 2023 at 01:14:12PM -0700 schrieb David Christensen:



After failing to start Wi-Fi three times, I see:

2023-05-04 12:37:39 root@laalaa ~
# dmesg | grep -i wifi
[   79.953085] Intel(R) Wireless WiFi driver for Linux
[   79.953314] iwlwifi :03:00.0: can't disable ASPM; OS doesn't have
ASPM control
[   79.960679] iwlwifi :03:00.0: firmware: direct-loading firmware
iwlwifi-6000g2a-6.ucode
[   79.960863] iwlwifi :03:00.0: loaded firmware version 18.168.6.1
6000g2a-6.ucode op_mode iwldvm
[   79.960889] iwlwifi :03:00.0: firmware: failed to load
iwl-debug-yoyo.bin (-2)


I see the same message with a different Intel chip, too.
And I also seen docs which state that this is ok.


[   80.057548] iwlwifi :03:00.0: CONFIG_IWLWIFI_DEBUG disabled
[   80.057551] iwlwifi :03:00.0: CONFIG_IWLWIFI_DEBUGFS disabled
[   80.057552] iwlwifi :03:00.0: CONFIG_IWLWIFI_DEVICE_TRACING disabled
[   80.057553] iwlwifi :03:00.0: Detected Intel(R) Centrino(R)
Advanced-N 6205 AGN, REV=0xB0
[   80.070510] iwlwifi :03:00.0: reporting RF_KILL (radio disabled)
[   80.070571] iwlwifi :03:00.0: RF_KILL bit toggled to disable radio.
[   80.095718] iwlwifi :03:00.0 wlp3s0: renamed from wlan0

Comments or suggestions for gathering information and/or getting Wi-Fi
working?


In the past I have had regular issues due to my fat fingers which
touched the Wi-Fi off button on my keyboard. At that time I have not
noticed that the issue has been me :-).

There is a directory /var/lib/systemd/rfkill/ which holds a file named
by the Wi-Fi device. Here it is pci-:04:00.0:wlan. The content is
just a 0 for normal operation or 1 for Wi-Fi off which means RF_Kill.

Please check that file on your system and replace a possible 1 by a 0.

There might be a better method involving systemd to achieve the same.
But I am not aware of that. There is also a configuration bit whether
to enable Wi-Fi after reboot or to keep the previous setting. But I do
not remember the details right now.

Kind regards,
Christoph



Thank you for replying.  :-)


There is no /var/lib/systemd directory on the laptop:

2023-05-04 14:23:25 root@taz ~
# ls -1 /var/lib/systemd/
catalog
coredump
deb-systemd-helper-enabled
deb-systemd-user-helper-enabled
linger
pstore
random-seed
timers
timesync


David

Re: Buster / Google Remote Desktop

[Geert Stappers]

On Thu, May 04, 2023 at 10:10:51PM +0100, Gareth Evans wrote:
> On 4 May 2023, at 22:00, zithro  wrote:
> > 29 Apr 2023 05:31, Gareth Evans wrote:
> >> It seems Google Remote Desktop, a Chrome extension, does not work
> >> properly with Buster + Mate.  I haven't tried with Bullseye, which
> >> is not an option in the environment concerned due to CUPS bugs,
> >> but in Buster there is about 5 seconds of remote-mouse-movement
> >> then no more.
> >> Does anyone know of a way to fix this, or any other approach that
> >> might work through a mobile broadband router (at the 'controlled'
> >> end) where there is no option to fwd ports?
> >> Thanks,
> >> Gareth
> > 
> 
> > Teamviewer ?
> > https://www.teamviewer.com/en-us/download/linux/
> > 
> 
> Why didn't I think of that?! Thanks.
> 
> I actually replaced the OS at the controlled end with Ubuntu 22.04
> for the time being (where Google Remote Desktop works flawlessly with
> Chrome) but will look into things again when Bookworm is released.

And have a look at https://rustdeck.com/
It is a open source TeamViewer alternative.
   
 
> Many thanks,
> Gareth


May the fourth be with you
Geert Stappers
-- 
Silence is hard to parse

Re: Buster / Google Remote Desktop

[Gareth Evans]

> On 4 May 2023, at 22:00, zithro  wrote:
> 
> On 29 Apr 2023 05:31, Gareth Evans wrote:
>> It seems Google Remote Desktop, a Chrome extension, does not work properly 
>> with Buster + Mate.  I haven't tried with Bullseye, which is not an option 
>> in the environment concerned due to CUPS bugs, but in Buster there is about 
>> 5 seconds of remote-mouse-movement then no more.
>> Does anyone know of a way to fix this, or any other approach that might work 
>> through a mobile broadband router (at the 'controlled' end) where there is 
>> no option to fwd ports?
>> Thanks,
>> Gareth
> 

> Teamviewer ?
> https://www.teamviewer.com/en-us/download/linux/
> 

Why didn't I think of that?! Thanks.

I actually replaced the OS at the controlled end with Ubuntu 22.04 for the time 
being (where Google Remote Desktop works flawlessly with Chrome) but will look 
into things again when Bookworm is released.

Many thanks,
Gareth

Re: Buster / Google Remote Desktop

[zithro]

On 29 Apr 2023 05:31, Gareth Evans wrote:

It seems Google Remote Desktop, a Chrome extension, does not work properly with 
Buster + Mate.  I haven't tried with Bullseye, which is not an option in the 
environment concerned due to CUPS bugs, but in Buster there is about 5 seconds 
of remote-mouse-movement then no more.

Does anyone know of a way to fix this, or any other approach that might work 
through a mobile broadband router (at the 'controlled' end) where there is no 
option to fwd ports?

Thanks,
Gareth



Teamviewer ?
https://www.teamviewer.com/en-us/download/linux/

Re: thunderbird missing arrows for scrolling through list of email messages

[zithro]

On 04 May 2023 22:10, Dan Ritter wrote:

zithro wrote:

On 04 May 2023 21:38, Dan Ritter wrote:

It's not hidden, it's part of the theme. You can install and
change themes -- look for packages with the keyword gtk theme,
and in XFCE's settings manager, it's under appearance/style.


Well, I'm currently using "Greybird-dark" (so not the default).
But it seems there's no GUI to alter the theme itself.

I looked in Appearance, Window Manager/Style, Window Manager/Advanced,
Window Manager/Tweaks and even in the Settings Editor (read almost all
keys/values), and found nowhere a possibility to alter the arrows.
Maybe I overlooked something ?


It's under Appearance as "Style" for me.

-dsr-


Same, but I personaly find "Window Manager/Style" better, as it allows 
changing a few settings.

Re: thunderbird missing arrows for scrolling through list of email messages

[zithro]

On 04 May 2023 22:11, Dan Ritter wrote:

zithro wrote:


Well, I'm currently using "Greybird-dark" (so not the default).
But it seems there's no GUI to alter the theme itself.



Right, you have to select a different theme.

Or write your own.

-dsr-


Well, I just tried half of the stock themes, and some themes show the 
arrows, some don't, but ... it depends on the applications !


As the OP reported, neither Thunderbird nor Firefox display the arrows, 
whereas editors, xterm or file managers do ...


So I guess the problem is REALLY in the Mozilla apps.
I opened about:config in Firefox (didn't find it in TB), typed 
"scrollbar" and played with some settings.
"widget.non-native-theme.gtk.scrollbar.allow-buttons" seemed promising, 
but has no effect, even with skins displaying the arrows in other apps.


From what I read it's a problem with GTK2/3.

PS: no I won't write a theme ^^
But I may check how to edit one. You know how ?

Re: processing /etc/sysctl.d

[Andy Smith]

Hello,

On Thu, May 04, 2023 at 12:56:50PM -0400, Lee wrote:
> Is there a way to get systemd to do  list of commands in
> /etc/sysctl.d/something.conf
> and  set of commands in /etc/sysctl.d/somethingElse.conf _after_
> all the interfaces come up?

I think your NetworkManager is changing this sysctl to 0 because
your default is 1, so these interfaces will be created with it as 1.
All that would happen if you made systemd change it as well is that
you'd have *another* race condition.

Needs to be fixed in the NM config IMHO.

Cheers,
Andy

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Re: Wi-Fi broken on Dell E6520, Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6205 AGN, Debian 11.7 Xfce

[Christoph Brinkhaus]

Am Thu, May 04, 2023 at 01:14:12PM -0700 schrieb David Christensen:

Hello David,

[...]

> Ethernet and Wi-Fi have both worked in the past; both separately and
> simultaneously.
> 
> 
> After failing to start Wi-Fi three times, I see:
> 
> 2023-05-04 12:37:39 root@laalaa ~
> # dmesg | grep -i wifi
> [   79.953085] Intel(R) Wireless WiFi driver for Linux
> [   79.953314] iwlwifi :03:00.0: can't disable ASPM; OS doesn't have
> ASPM control
> [   79.960679] iwlwifi :03:00.0: firmware: direct-loading firmware
> iwlwifi-6000g2a-6.ucode
> [   79.960863] iwlwifi :03:00.0: loaded firmware version 18.168.6.1
> 6000g2a-6.ucode op_mode iwldvm
> [   79.960889] iwlwifi :03:00.0: firmware: failed to load
> iwl-debug-yoyo.bin (-2)

I see the same message with a different Intel chip, too.
And I also seen docs which state that this is ok.

> [   80.057548] iwlwifi :03:00.0: CONFIG_IWLWIFI_DEBUG disabled
> [   80.057551] iwlwifi :03:00.0: CONFIG_IWLWIFI_DEBUGFS disabled
> [   80.057552] iwlwifi :03:00.0: CONFIG_IWLWIFI_DEVICE_TRACING disabled
> [   80.057553] iwlwifi :03:00.0: Detected Intel(R) Centrino(R)
> Advanced-N 6205 AGN, REV=0xB0
> [   80.070510] iwlwifi :03:00.0: reporting RF_KILL (radio disabled)
> [   80.070571] iwlwifi :03:00.0: RF_KILL bit toggled to disable radio.
> [   80.095718] iwlwifi :03:00.0 wlp3s0: renamed from wlan0
> 
> Comments or suggestions for gathering information and/or getting Wi-Fi
> working?

In the past I have had regular issues due to my fat fingers which
touched the Wi-Fi off button on my keyboard. At that time I have not
noticed that the issue has been me :-).

There is a directory /var/lib/systemd/rfkill/ which holds a file named
by the Wi-Fi device. Here it is pci-:04:00.0:wlan. The content is
just a 0 for normal operation or 1 for Wi-Fi off which means RF_Kill.

Please check that file on your system and replace a possible 1 by a 0.

There might be a better method involving systemd to achieve the same.
But I am not aware of that. There is also a configuration bit whether
to enable Wi-Fi after reboot or to keep the previous setting. But I do
not remember the details right now.

Kind regards,
Christoph
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Re: thunderbird missing arrows for scrolling through list of email messages

[Dan Ritter]

zithro wrote: 
> 
> Well, I'm currently using "Greybird-dark" (so not the default).
> But it seems there's no GUI to alter the theme itself.


Right, you have to select a different theme.

Or write your own.

-dsr-

Re: thunderbird missing arrows for scrolling through list of email messages

[Dan Ritter]

zithro wrote: 
> On 04 May 2023 21:38, Dan Ritter wrote:
> > It's not hidden, it's part of the theme. You can install and
> > change themes -- look for packages with the keyword gtk theme,
> > and in XFCE's settings manager, it's under appearance/style.
> 
> Well, I'm currently using "Greybird-dark" (so not the default).
> But it seems there's no GUI to alter the theme itself.
> 
> I looked in Appearance, Window Manager/Style, Window Manager/Advanced,
> Window Manager/Tweaks and even in the Settings Editor (read almost all
> keys/values), and found nowhere a possibility to alter the arrows.
> Maybe I overlooked something ?

It's under Appearance as "Style" for me.

-dsr-

Wi-Fi broken on Dell E6520, Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6205 AGN, Debian 11.7 Xfce

[David Christensen]

debian-user:

I have a Dell Latituide E6520 laptop computer with Debian/ Xfce that is 
used as for GUI desktop/ portable admin for my SOHO LAN:


https://www.dell.com/support/home/en-us/product-support/product/latitude-e6520/docs

2023-05-04 12:30:18 root@laalaa ~
# cat /etc/debian_version ; uname -a
11.7
Linux laalaa 5.10.0-22-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 5.10.178-3 (2023-04-22) 
x86_64 GNU/Linux


2023-05-04 12:30:31 root@laalaa ~
# dpkg-query -W xfce4
xfce4   4.16


It has Ethernet that has been connected for years:

2023-05-04 12:36:23 root@laalaa ~
# dmesg | grep e1000
[1.806458] e1000e: Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Driver
[1.806460] e1000e: Copyright(c) 1999 - 2015 Intel Corporation.
[1.806688] e1000e :00:19.0: Interrupt Throttling Rate (ints/sec) 
set to dynamic conservative mode
[1.912063] e1000e :00:19.0 :00:19.0 (uninitialized): 
registered PHC clock
[2.009774] e1000e :00:19.0 eth0: (PCI Express:2.5GT/s:Width x1) 
5c:26:0a:7c:82:88
[2.009776] e1000e :00:19.0 eth0: Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network 
Connection
[2.009814] e1000e :00:19.0 eth0: MAC: 10, PHY: 11, PBA No: 
4041FF-0FF

[3.572969] e1000e :00:19.0 eno1: renamed from eth0
[   85.528065] e1000e :00:19.0 eno1: NIC Link is Up 1000 Mbps Full 
Duplex, Flow Control: Rx/Tx



It also has Wi-Fi, which has been switched off for many months (via the 
wireless switch on the right side of the laptop).  I switched on Wi-Fi 
today, booted, logged in, and chose Xfce Panel -> right click 
NetworkManager Applet -> Enable Wi-Fi.  Wi-Fi does not start.



Powering off, unplugging Ethernet,  booting, logging in, and chosing 
Xfce Panel -> right click NetworkManager Applet -> Enable Wi-Fi produces 
the same failure to start Wi-Fi.



Ethernet and Wi-Fi have both worked in the past; both separately and 
simultaneously.



After failing to start Wi-Fi three times, I see:

2023-05-04 12:37:39 root@laalaa ~
# dmesg | grep -i wifi
[   79.953085] Intel(R) Wireless WiFi driver for Linux
[   79.953314] iwlwifi :03:00.0: can't disable ASPM; OS doesn't have 
ASPM control
[   79.960679] iwlwifi :03:00.0: firmware: direct-loading firmware 
iwlwifi-6000g2a-6.ucode
[   79.960863] iwlwifi :03:00.0: loaded firmware version 18.168.6.1 
6000g2a-6.ucode op_mode iwldvm
[   79.960889] iwlwifi :03:00.0: firmware: failed to load 
iwl-debug-yoyo.bin (-2)

[   80.057548] iwlwifi :03:00.0: CONFIG_IWLWIFI_DEBUG disabled
[   80.057551] iwlwifi :03:00.0: CONFIG_IWLWIFI_DEBUGFS disabled
[   80.057552] iwlwifi :03:00.0: CONFIG_IWLWIFI_DEVICE_TRACING disabled
[   80.057553] iwlwifi :03:00.0: Detected Intel(R) Centrino(R) 
Advanced-N 6205 AGN, REV=0xB0

[   80.070510] iwlwifi :03:00.0: reporting RF_KILL (radio disabled)
[   80.070571] iwlwifi :03:00.0: RF_KILL bit toggled to disable radio.
[   80.095718] iwlwifi :03:00.0 wlp3s0: renamed from wlan0



2023-05-04 13:10:09 root@laalaa ~
# tail /var/log/syslog
May  4 13:07:38 laalaa systemd[1629]: Reached target Basic System.
May  4 13:07:38 laalaa systemd[1629]: Condition check resulted in 
Multimedia Service being skipped.
May  4 13:07:38 laalaa systemd[1629]: Condition check resulted in Sound 
Service being skipped.

May  4 13:07:38 laalaa systemd[1629]: Reached target Main User Target.
May  4 13:07:38 laalaa systemd[1629]: Startup finished in 118ms.
May  4 13:07:38 laalaa systemd[1]: Started User Manager for UID 0.
May  4 13:07:38 laalaa systemd[1]: Started Session 4 of user root.
May  4 13:07:39 laalaa systemd[1]: NetworkManager-dispatcher.service: 
Succeeded.
May  4 13:08:43 laalaa NetworkManager[903]:   [1683230923.9058] 
audit: op="radio-control" arg="wireless-enabled" pid=1483 uid=13250 
result="success"
May  4 13:09:08 laalaa NetworkManager[903]:   [1683230948.0509] 
audit: op="radio-control" arg="wireless-enabled" pid=1483 uid=13250 
result="success"



The first attempt left no message in /var/log/syslog.  The second and 
third attempts left the last two entries shown above.



STFW "debian iwlwifi firmware: failed to load iwl-debug-yoyo.bin (-2)", 
I see:


https://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=149817

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=966218


AIUI the posts indicate that the message "iwlwifi firmware: failed to 
load iwl-debug-yoyo.bin (-2)" is a warning only; it did not affect 
operation (?) (as of November 2022).



Is anyone else running an Intel(R) Centrino(R) Advanced-N 6205 AGN, 
REV=0xB0 Wi-F- adapter?



Has anyone else seen this issue?


Comments or suggestions for gathering information and/or getting Wi-Fi 
working?



TIA,

David

Re: repeat of previous question that has gone unanswered severaltimes.

[gene heskett]

On 5/4/23 15:43, zithro wrote:

On 01 May 2023 14:53, Brian wrote:

On Mon 01 May 2023 at 13:41:10 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:


On Mon, May 01, 2023 at 09:37:59AM +0200, john doe wrote:

[...]


Please refrain from polluting the list when you do not get an answer.


I think repeating a question after a while doesn't count as
"polluting". That's what debian-user is for, after all.


Indeed. Persistaence has a place and may pay off.



Indeed, it seems it has paid off, as it works now for Gene !

The Brian-Gene exchanges are now set in stone, and can now serve as a 
step-by-step debug guide for CUPS.


I'm glad Gene followed suggestions this time, right Gene ? ;)

Although I was afraid when I saw :

*** WARNING: Detected another IPv4 mDNS stack running on this host. This 
makes mDNS unreliable and is thus not>


Is that expected at 1st avahi start ?

Second question: is that possible to use CUPS/printing without avahi ?

Absolutely, up to bullseye for both buster and bullseye, but not from 
bullseye to bullseye.

.


Cheers, Gene Heskett.
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 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
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 - Louis D. Brandeis
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Re: thunderbird missing arrows for scrolling through list of email messages

[Dan Ritter]

zithro wrote: 
> On 28 Apr 2023 00:58, dmacdoug wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 25, 2023 at 02:46:38PM +, charlie derr wrote:
> > > A number of years ago, the little arrows at the top and bottom of the
> > > scrollbar to the right of my "message list" view in thunderbird (I'm
> > > currently using debian stable) disappeared.
> > > [snip]
> > 
> Or is it a desktop skin problem ?
> 
> On XFCE too, there are no more "lil arrows" anywhere, just the bars.
> Nothing in settings, even the manual ones. But maybe if you ask on the XFCE
> forum, there is a hidden value to create ?

It's not hidden, it's part of the theme. You can install and
change themes -- look for packages with the keyword gtk theme,
and in XFCE's settings manager, it's under appearance/style.

-dsr-

Re: thunderbird missing arrows for scrolling through list of email messages

[zithro]

On 04 May 2023 21:38, Dan Ritter wrote:

zithro wrote:

On 28 Apr 2023 00:58, dmacdoug wrote:

On Tue, Apr 25, 2023 at 02:46:38PM +, charlie derr wrote:

A number of years ago, the little arrows at the top and bottom of the
scrollbar to the right of my "message list" view in thunderbird (I'm
currently using debian stable) disappeared.
[snip]



Or is it a desktop skin problem ?

On XFCE too, there are no more "lil arrows" anywhere, just the bars.
Nothing in settings, even the manual ones. But maybe if you ask on the XFCE
forum, there is a hidden value to create ?


It's not hidden, it's part of the theme. You can install and
change themes -- look for packages with the keyword gtk theme,
and in XFCE's settings manager, it's under appearance/style.

-dsr-




Well, I'm currently using "Greybird-dark" (so not the default).
But it seems there's no GUI to alter the theme itself.

I looked in Appearance, Window Manager/Style, Window Manager/Advanced, 
Window Manager/Tweaks and even in the Settings Editor (read almost all 
keys/values), and found nowhere a possibility to alter the arrows.

Maybe I overlooked something ?

Also, if I remember correctly from previous searches, some settings are 
only available via "xfconf-query" (like deprecated or new ones).

Re: repeat of previous question that has gone unanswered several times.

[zithro]

On 01 May 2023 14:53, Brian wrote:

On Mon 01 May 2023 at 13:41:10 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:


On Mon, May 01, 2023 at 09:37:59AM +0200, john doe wrote:

[...]


Please refrain from polluting the list when you do not get an answer.


I think repeating a question after a while doesn't count as
"polluting". That's what debian-user is for, after all.


Indeed. Persistaence has a place and may pay off.



Indeed, it seems it has paid off, as it works now for Gene !

The Brian-Gene exchanges are now set in stone, and can now serve as a 
step-by-step debug guide for CUPS.


I'm glad Gene followed suggestions this time, right Gene ? ;)

Although I was afraid when I saw :

*** WARNING: Detected another IPv4 mDNS stack running on this host. This 
makes mDNS unreliable and is thus not>


Is that expected at 1st avahi start ?

Second question: is that possible to use CUPS/printing without avahi ?

RE: OT - ocultar una vpn

[juan carlos rebate]

 De: RamsesEnviado: jueves, 4 de mayo de 2023 21:06Para: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.orgAsunto: RE: OT - ocultar una vpn El 4 de mayo de 2023 20:55:16 CEST, juan carlos rebate  escribió:>Enviado desde Correo  para Windows> >De: Ramses >Enviado: jueves, 4 de mayo de 2023 20:42>Para: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org >Asunto: RE: OT - ocultar una vpn> >El 4 de mayo de 2023 20:06:07 CEST, juan carlos rebate  escribió:> >>De: Ramses > >>Enviado: jueves, 4 de mayo de 2023 19:44> >>Para: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org > >>Asunto: RE: OT - ocultar una vpn> >> > >>El 4 de mayo de 2023 18:55:58 CEST, juan carlos rebate  escribió:> >> > >>>De: JavierDebian > >> > >>>Enviado: martes, 2 de mayo de 2023 19:26> >> > >>>Para: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org > >> > >>>Asunto: Re: OT - ocultar una vpn> >> > >>> > >> > >>>El 2/5/23 a las 12:05, Juan carlos Rebate escribió:> >> > >>> > >> >  hola lista, disculpad si hay faltas de ortografía pero envio este> >> > >>> > >> >  correo deprisa y corriendo. el tema es que intento acceder a una red> >> > >>> > >> >  irc la cual mi proveedor tiene bloqueada, con varias vpn conocidas me> >> > >>> > >> >  logro conectar pero solo por 5 segundos, despues me banean alegando> >> > >>> > >> >  que la razón es estar usando una vpn, necesito saber si existe alguna> >> > >>> > >> >  manera de saltar esa bobada, he probado con la de expressvpn, nordvpn,> >> > >>> > >> >  norton security en el cual viene una vpn, opera (el cual siempre me da> >> > >>> > >> >  la misma ip a pesar de cambiar la región), todos me los detecta y> >> > >>> > >> >  banea. me da cosilla montar un openvpn en un dedicado o un vps si va a> >> > >>> > >> >  dar el mismo resultado, alguien sabria como ocultar el uso de vpn? no> >> > >>> > >> >  vale usar red 4g o 5g porque el operador es el mismo, los webproxy o> >> > >>> > >> >  proxy tampoco valen, alguna otra idea? gracias y perdon por cualquier> >> > >>> > >> >  error ortografico o de otro tipo> >> > >>> > >> >  > >> > >>> > >> > >>>Probá con VPNs que ofusquen los métodos de detección de VPN.> >> > >>> > >> > >>>Dos que lo hacen:> >> > >>> > >> > >>>https://www.cyberghostvpn.com> >> > >>> > >> > >>>https://surfshark.com> >> > >>> > >> > >>>SurfShark se puede activar el ofuscador en forma manual o automática.> >> > >>> > >> > >>>JAP> >> > >>> > >> > >>>Hola, perdón por tardar en responder. Ninguna vpn ofusca absolutamente nada, he probado 10 vpn y todas las tedecta como vpn/proxy, supuestamente son capaces de burlar Netflix, hbo y demás que son mas avanzadas y ninguna burla una mrda de servidor irc?. Según surfshark no hay fugas, ninguna de sus ip están en lista negra y dicen tener encriptado militar? Ya claro.> >> > >>Buenas tardes,> >> > >>En mi modesta opinión...> >> > >>A los servidores del IRC no debería nada referente a si la conexión proviene de una VPN o no, ya que la VPN irá terminada en un servidor terminador de VPN del proveedor y este mete el tráfico en Internet con la IP pertinente. Claro que pueden tener encriptacion militar, pero eso es entre el equipo cliente y el servidor terminador de la VPN, este servidor desencripta el tráfico de la VPN y lo mete en Internet sin encriptación ninguna.> >> > >>Otra cosa es que el servidor IRC tenga controlados los rangos de IP con los que esos proveedores de VPN meten el tráfico en Internet y detectan que viene de un proveedor de VPN.> >> > >>Saludos> >> > >>Yo creo que es mas por el protocolo vpn, me deja acceder durante 2 segundos luego me lo banea, incluso con una vpn casera mee lo deetecta, no es cuestión del proveedor sino que son capaces de mirar el patrón de paquetes (no se como lo hace, si por algún tipo de cortafuegos o algún tipo de sistema de filtrado de paquetes, todas las vpn usan los mismos protocolos, openvpn udp y openvpn tcp entonces es normal que lo reconozca> >Buenas tardes,> >Pero cuando llegas a Internet, al IRC, llegas fuera de la VPN, ningún protocolo de VPN, ninguna encriptación ni nada, eso se queda en el Servidor / Terminador de la VPN.> >Saludos> >Entonces porque yo con movistar sin vpn no puedo entrar, monto una vpn casera con openvpn y si puedo entrar durante dos segundos? Después me banea la conexión, la vpn usa la misma ip dada por movistar. Con Jazztel si puedo entrar sin vpn, monto una vpn con openvpn usando la misma ip de Jazztel y lo banea a los dos segundo diciendo proxy/vpn tu conexíon no está permitidaPorque Movistar te está haciendo alguna trastada.  Saludos Incluso creando vpns con azure o aws lo detecta, ya no es el hecho de entrar sino el reto de porque no puedo con una vpn

Re: HS: pourquoi les disques SSD sont peu utilisé dans les serveurs

[Dethegeek]

Bonjour

Une info directement liée au sujet, et qui peut vous intéresser, à propos
de la durée de vie des HDD et SSD.

Promis, je ne déterre plus le sujet après cela.

https://www.frandroid.com/produits-android/hardware/stockage/1682621_attention-les-disques-durs-ont-une-duree-de-vie-tres-courte


Le mar. 25 avr. 2023 à 12:41, Dethegeek  a écrit :

> Bonjour
>
> Je me souviens qu'il a été abordé cette question (durabilité des SSD), et
> j'avais trouvé une étude de Facebook à ce sujet, que j'avais partagé. De
> tête, évitez les expositions à la chaleur qui impacte la durée de vie.
>
> En voilà une autre qui a l'air intéressante. Étant sur un téléphone, le
> pdf est un peu difficile à lire, mais il y a des histogrammes et des
> graphiques tout mignons. Je prendrai le temps de le lire plus en détail ce
> soir, c'est intéressant.
>
>
> https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en_sdt=0%2C5=ssd+reliability+study=SSD+reliability+#d=gs_qabs=1682418769536=%23p%3DnfFR-cQtA-YJ
>
> Le mar. 25 avr. 2023 à 12:30, Daniel Caillibaud  a
> écrit :
>
>> Bonjour,
>>
>> J'ajoute mon grain de sel longtemps après ;-)
>>
>> Le 12/04/23 à 10:34, Alex PADOLY  a écrit :
>> > En regardant des catalogues de serveurs, même sur des serveurs coutant
>> > plus de 1000 ou 2000 Euros, on ne voit pas ou très peu de disques SSD,
>> > on y voit des disques SATA et SAS.
>>
>> Ça doit dépendre des catalogues, en tout cas depuis 10~15 ans je n'ai
>> quasiment eu que des
>> serveurs avec ssd seulement (et parfois ssd + disques rotatifs quand le
>> ssd était cher et que
>> j'avais besoin de bcp de place).
>>
>> Et chez ovh par ex la plupart des serveurs étaient en ssd depuis
>> longtemps et désormais en
>> nvme, le hdd rotatif étant en général "en plus" si besoin (même si on
>> peut encore choisir du
>> rotatif seul).
>> Et pour les serveurs avec bcp de To, c'est un mix nvme/rotatif, pour
>> avoir le meilleur des deux
>> monde (nvme utilisé pour le cache des rotatifs, et suivant les fs
>> l'indexation ou la
>> journalisation du fs, jamais utilisé mais de mémoire zfs en tire bien
>> profit).
>>
>> Et question fiabilité, en 20 ans et 30~40 serveurs (2 à 5 ensemble,
>> changés tous
>> les 3~4 ans), j'ai eu des pannes de disque rotatif (avant 2010) mais
>> jamais de ssd/nvme, et vu
>> les discussions sur les listes ça semble être aussi le cas des collègues
>> (ça casse toujours,
>> mais bcp moins souvent).
>>
>> C'est d'ailleurs un pb, les disques deviennent tellement fiables que les
>> gens oublient le
>> backup ;-)
>> (alors que même si y'en a moins qui cassent sans prévenir, ça peut
>> toujours arriver)
>>
>> Il y a eu à une époque une fatigue accélérée des ssd à cause d'écriture
>> fréquentes et
>> nombreuses, de /tmp par ex (mais sur un serveur c'est souvent configuré
>> en ramdisk), et des
>> réglages de trim qu'il fallait optimiser, ce qui n'est plus nécessaire
>> depuis longtemps (les
>> réglages par défaut des OS gèrent ça correctement).
>>
>> --
>> Daniel
>>
>> Ceux qui ne font rien ne se trompent jamais
>> Théodore de Banville
>>
>>

Logging off an X session closes all ssh -X connections started previously from outside X

[zithro]

Hi all,

this is a rather strange problem, I hope the title is explicit enough.

Here is what happens chronologically :

1. I start various SSH connections to a host, some normal, some with X 
forwarding, like that: "ssh user@host" and "ssh -X -n user@host GUI_APP" 
(like firejail firefox, firejail thunderbird, etc). There's no user 
connected under X yet, only the greeter is displayed.


2. using VNC or rdesktop, I then log on to X on the machine, do some 
stuff, then hit "log off" from the desktop menu.
Immediately, ALL the previous SSH connections started in step 1 get 
closed, hence all the shells and the GUI apps (firefox, etc) !


Everything is done using the same local and remote users (same UID but 
different names). sshd is the parent process of all my remote SSH sessions.


I don't get how apps and shells NOT started via the X session, moreover 
previously to its creation, are closed when the X session closes, what's 
happening here ?!
As the outcome is the same with VNC and rdesktop, I guess the problem is 
lying in the OS. Could it be related to logind ? Or an SSH(d) setting ?


Both systems are Debian 11/bullseye stable with X(org).
The client is running XFCE (but has MATE installed), the remote server 
is only running MATE (no other DE installed).

It happens since at least a year.

Ideas anyone ?

Have a nice evening,

zithro

RE: OT - ocultar una vpn

[Ramses]

El 4 de mayo de 2023 20:55:16 CEST, juan carlos rebate  
escribió:
>Enviado desde Correo  para 
>Windows
>
>De: Ramses 
>Enviado: jueves, 4 de mayo de 2023 20:42
>Para: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org 
>
>Asunto: RE: OT - ocultar una vpn
>
>El 4 de mayo de 2023 20:06:07 CEST, juan carlos rebate  
>escribió:
>
>>De: Ramses 
>
>>Enviado: jueves, 4 de mayo de 2023 19:44
>
>>Para: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org 
>>
>
>>Asunto: RE: OT - ocultar una vpn
>
>> 
>
>>El 4 de mayo de 2023 18:55:58 CEST, juan carlos rebate  
>>escribió:
>
>> 
>
>>>De: JavierDebian 
>
>> 
>
>>>Enviado: martes, 2 de mayo de 2023 19:26
>
>> 
>
>>>Para: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org 
>>>
>
>> 
>
>>>Asunto: Re: OT - ocultar una vpn
>
>> 
>
>>> 
>
>> 
>
>>>El 2/5/23 a las 12:05, Juan carlos Rebate escribió:
>
>> 
>
>>> 
>
>> 
>
 hola lista, disculpad si hay faltas de ortografía pero envio este
>
>> 
>
>>> 
>
>> 
>
 correo deprisa y corriendo. el tema es que intento acceder a una red
>
>> 
>
>>> 
>
>> 
>
 irc la cual mi proveedor tiene bloqueada, con varias vpn conocidas me
>
>> 
>
>>> 
>
>> 
>
 logro conectar pero solo por 5 segundos, despues me banean alegando
>
>> 
>
>>> 
>
>> 
>
 que la razón es estar usando una vpn, necesito saber si existe alguna
>
>> 
>
>>> 
>
>> 
>
 manera de saltar esa bobada, he probado con la de expressvpn, nordvpn,
>
>> 
>
>>> 
>
>> 
>
 norton security en el cual viene una vpn, opera (el cual siempre me da
>
>> 
>
>>> 
>
>> 
>
 la misma ip a pesar de cambiar la región), todos me los detecta y
>
>> 
>
>>> 
>
>> 
>
 banea. me da cosilla montar un openvpn en un dedicado o un vps si va a
>
>> 
>
>>> 
>
>> 
>
 dar el mismo resultado, alguien sabria como ocultar el uso de vpn? no
>
>> 
>
>>> 
>
>> 
>
 vale usar red 4g o 5g porque el operador es el mismo, los webproxy o
>
>> 
>
>>> 
>
>> 
>
 proxy tampoco valen, alguna otra idea? gracias y perdon por cualquier
>
>> 
>
>>> 
>
>> 
>
 error ortografico o de otro tipo
>
>> 
>
>>> 
>
>> 
>
 
>
>> 
>
>>> 
>
>> 
>
>>>Probá con VPNs que ofusquen los métodos de detección de VPN.
>
>> 
>
>>> 
>
>> 
>
>>>Dos que lo hacen:
>
>> 
>
>>> 
>
>> 
>
>>>https://www.cyberghostvpn.com
>
>> 
>
>>> 
>
>> 
>
>>>https://surfshark.com
>
>> 
>
>>> 
>
>> 
>
>>>SurfShark se puede activar el ofuscador en forma manual o automática.
>
>> 
>
>>> 
>
>> 
>
>>>JAP
>
>> 
>
>>> 
>
>> 
>
>>>Hola, perdón por tardar en responder. Ninguna vpn ofusca absolutamente nada, 
>>>he probado 10 vpn y todas las tedecta como vpn/proxy, supuestamente son 
>>>capaces de burlar Netflix, hbo y demás que son mas avanzadas y ninguna burla 
>>>una mrda de servidor irc?. Según surfshark no hay fugas, ninguna de sus ip 
>>>están en lista negra y dicen tener encriptado militar? Ya claro.
>
>> 
>
>>Buenas tardes,
>
>> 
>
>>En mi modesta opinión...
>
>> 
>
>>A los servidores del IRC no debería nada referente a si la conexión proviene 
>>de una VPN o no, ya que la VPN irá terminada en un servidor terminador de VPN 
>>del proveedor y este mete el tráfico en Internet con la IP pertinente. Claro 
>>que pueden tener encriptacion militar, pero eso es entre el equipo cliente y 
>>el servidor terminador de la VPN, este servidor desencripta el tráfico de la 
>>VPN y lo mete en Internet sin encriptación ninguna.
>
>> 
>
>>Otra cosa es que el servidor IRC tenga controlados los rangos de IP con los 
>>que esos proveedores de VPN meten el tráfico en Internet y detectan que viene 
>>de un proveedor de VPN.
>
>> 
>
>>Saludos
>
>> 
>
>>Yo creo que es mas por el protocolo vpn, me deja acceder durante 2 segundos 
>>luego me lo banea, incluso con una vpn casera mee lo deetecta, no es cuestión 
>>del proveedor sino que son capaces de mirar el patrón de paquetes (no se como 
>>lo hace, si por algún tipo de cortafuegos o algún tipo de sistema de filtrado 
>>de paquetes, todas las vpn usan los mismos protocolos, openvpn udp y openvpn 
>>tcp entonces es normal que lo reconozca
>
>Buenas tardes,
>
>Pero cuando llegas a Internet, al IRC, llegas fuera de la VPN, ningún 
>protocolo de VPN, ninguna encriptación ni nada, eso se queda en el Servidor / 
>Terminador de la VPN.
>
>Saludos
>
>Entonces porque yo con movistar sin vpn no puedo entrar, monto una vpn casera 
>con openvpn y si puedo entrar durante dos segundos? Después me banea la 
>conexión, la vpn usa la misma ip dada por movistar. Con Jazztel si puedo 
>entrar sin vpn, monto una vpn con openvpn usando la misma ip de Jazztel y lo 
>banea a los dos segundo diciendo proxy/vpn tu conexíon no está permitida
Porque Movistar te está haciendo alguna trastada.


Saludos

Re: processing /etc/sysctl.d

[Michel Verdier]

Le 4 mai 2023 Greg Wooledge a écrit :

> I can't help you with IPv6.

ipv6 is setup by adding in /e/n/i

iface enp1s0 inet6 auto

RE: OT - ocultar una vpn

[juan carlos rebate]

  Enviado desde Correo para Windows De: RamsesEnviado: jueves, 4 de mayo de 2023 20:42Para: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.orgAsunto: RE: OT - ocultar una vpn El 4 de mayo de 2023 20:06:07 CEST, juan carlos rebate  escribió:>De: Ramses >Enviado: jueves, 4 de mayo de 2023 19:44>Para: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org >Asunto: RE: OT - ocultar una vpn> >El 4 de mayo de 2023 18:55:58 CEST, juan carlos rebate  escribió:> >>De: JavierDebian > >>Enviado: martes, 2 de mayo de 2023 19:26> >>Para: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org > >>Asunto: Re: OT - ocultar una vpn> >> > >>El 2/5/23 a las 12:05, Juan carlos Rebate escribió:> >> > >>> hola lista, disculpad si hay faltas de ortografía pero envio este> >> > >>> correo deprisa y corriendo. el tema es que intento acceder a una red> >> > >>> irc la cual mi proveedor tiene bloqueada, con varias vpn conocidas me> >> > >>> logro conectar pero solo por 5 segundos, despues me banean alegando> >> > >>> que la razón es estar usando una vpn, necesito saber si existe alguna> >> > >>> manera de saltar esa bobada, he probado con la de expressvpn, nordvpn,> >> > >>> norton security en el cual viene una vpn, opera (el cual siempre me da> >> > >>> la misma ip a pesar de cambiar la región), todos me los detecta y> >> > >>> banea. me da cosilla montar un openvpn en un dedicado o un vps si va a> >> > >>> dar el mismo resultado, alguien sabria como ocultar el uso de vpn? no> >> > >>> vale usar red 4g o 5g porque el operador es el mismo, los webproxy o> >> > >>> proxy tampoco valen, alguna otra idea? gracias y perdon por cualquier> >> > >>> error ortografico o de otro tipo> >> > >>> > >> > >>Probá con VPNs que ofusquen los métodos de detección de VPN.> >> > >>Dos que lo hacen:> >> > >>https://www.cyberghostvpn.com> >> > >>https://surfshark.com> >> > >>SurfShark se puede activar el ofuscador en forma manual o automática.> >> > >>JAP> >> > >>Hola, perdón por tardar en responder. Ninguna vpn ofusca absolutamente nada, he probado 10 vpn y todas las tedecta como vpn/proxy, supuestamente son capaces de burlar Netflix, hbo y demás que son mas avanzadas y ninguna burla una mrda de servidor irc?. Según surfshark no hay fugas, ninguna de sus ip están en lista negra y dicen tener encriptado militar? Ya claro.> >Buenas tardes,> >En mi modesta opinión...> >A los servidores del IRC no debería nada referente a si la conexión proviene de una VPN o no, ya que la VPN irá terminada en un servidor terminador de VPN del proveedor y este mete el tráfico en Internet con la IP pertinente. Claro que pueden tener encriptacion militar, pero eso es entre el equipo cliente y el servidor terminador de la VPN, este servidor desencripta el tráfico de la VPN y lo mete en Internet sin encriptación ninguna.> >Otra cosa es que el servidor IRC tenga controlados los rangos de IP con los que esos proveedores de VPN meten el tráfico en Internet y detectan que viene de un proveedor de VPN.> >Saludos> >Yo creo que es mas por el protocolo vpn, me deja acceder durante 2 segundos luego me lo banea, incluso con una vpn casera mee lo deetecta, no es cuestión del proveedor sino que son capaces de mirar el patrón de paquetes (no se como lo hace, si por algún tipo de cortafuegos o algún tipo de sistema de filtrado de paquetes, todas las vpn usan los mismos protocolos, openvpn udp y openvpn tcp entonces es normal que lo reconozcaBuenas tardes, Pero cuando llegas a Internet, al IRC, llegas fuera de la VPN, ningún protocolo de VPN, ninguna encriptación ni nada, eso se queda en el Servidor / Terminador de la VPN.  Saludos Entonces porque yo con movistar sin vpn no puedo entrar, monto una vpn casera con openvpn y si puedo entrar durante dos segundos? Después me banea la conexión, la vpn usa la misma ip dada por movistar. Con Jazztel si puedo entrar sin vpn, monto una vpn con openvpn usando la misma ip de Jazztel y lo banea a los dos segundo diciendo proxy/vpn tu conexíon no está permitida

RE: OT - ocultar una vpn

[Ramses]

El 4 de mayo de 2023 20:06:07 CEST, juan carlos rebate  
escribió:
>De: Ramses 
>Enviado: jueves, 4 de mayo de 2023 19:44
>Para: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org 
>
>Asunto: RE: OT - ocultar una vpn
>
>El 4 de mayo de 2023 18:55:58 CEST, juan carlos rebate  
>escribió:
>
>>De: JavierDebian 
>
>>Enviado: martes, 2 de mayo de 2023 19:26
>
>>Para: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org 
>>
>
>>Asunto: Re: OT - ocultar una vpn
>
>> 
>
>>El 2/5/23 a las 12:05, Juan carlos Rebate escribió:
>
>> 
>
>>> hola lista, disculpad si hay faltas de ortografía pero envio este
>
>> 
>
>>> correo deprisa y corriendo. el tema es que intento acceder a una red
>
>> 
>
>>> irc la cual mi proveedor tiene bloqueada, con varias vpn conocidas me
>
>> 
>
>>> logro conectar pero solo por 5 segundos, despues me banean alegando
>
>> 
>
>>> que la razón es estar usando una vpn, necesito saber si existe alguna
>
>> 
>
>>> manera de saltar esa bobada, he probado con la de expressvpn, nordvpn,
>
>> 
>
>>> norton security en el cual viene una vpn, opera (el cual siempre me da
>
>> 
>
>>> la misma ip a pesar de cambiar la región), todos me los detecta y
>
>> 
>
>>> banea. me da cosilla montar un openvpn en un dedicado o un vps si va a
>
>> 
>
>>> dar el mismo resultado, alguien sabria como ocultar el uso de vpn? no
>
>> 
>
>>> vale usar red 4g o 5g porque el operador es el mismo, los webproxy o
>
>> 
>
>>> proxy tampoco valen, alguna otra idea? gracias y perdon por cualquier
>
>> 
>
>>> error ortografico o de otro tipo
>
>> 
>
>>> 
>
>> 
>
>>Probá con VPNs que ofusquen los métodos de detección de VPN.
>
>> 
>
>>Dos que lo hacen:
>
>> 
>
>>https://www.cyberghostvpn.com
>
>> 
>
>>https://surfshark.com
>
>> 
>
>>SurfShark se puede activar el ofuscador en forma manual o automática.
>
>> 
>
>>JAP
>
>> 
>
>>Hola, perdón por tardar en responder. Ninguna vpn ofusca absolutamente nada, 
>>he probado 10 vpn y todas las tedecta como vpn/proxy, supuestamente son 
>>capaces de burlar Netflix, hbo y demás que son mas avanzadas y ninguna burla 
>>una mrda de servidor irc?. Según surfshark no hay fugas, ninguna de sus ip 
>>están en lista negra y dicen tener encriptado militar? Ya claro.
>
>Buenas tardes,
>
>En mi modesta opinión...
>
>A los servidores del IRC no debería nada referente a si la conexión proviene 
>de una VPN o no, ya que la VPN irá terminada en un servidor terminador de VPN 
>del proveedor y este mete el tráfico en Internet con la IP pertinente. Claro 
>que pueden tener encriptacion militar, pero eso es entre el equipo cliente y 
>el servidor terminador de la VPN, este servidor desencripta el tráfico de la 
>VPN y lo mete en Internet sin encriptación ninguna.
>
>Otra cosa es que el servidor IRC tenga controlados los rangos de IP con los 
>que esos proveedores de VPN meten el tráfico en Internet y detectan que viene 
>de un proveedor de VPN.
>
>Saludos
>
>Yo creo que es mas por el protocolo vpn, me deja acceder durante 2 segundos 
>luego me lo banea, incluso con una vpn casera mee lo deetecta, no es cuestión 
>del proveedor sino que son capaces de mirar el patrón de paquetes (no se como 
>lo hace, si por algún tipo de cortafuegos o algún tipo de sistema de filtrado 
>de paquetes, todas las vpn usan los mismos protocolos, openvpn udp y openvpn 
>tcp entonces es normal que lo reconozca
Buenas tardes,

Pero cuando llegas a Internet, al IRC, llegas fuera de la VPN, ningún protocolo 
de VPN, ninguna encriptación ni nada, eso se queda en el Servidor / Terminador 
de la VPN.


Saludos

Re: thunderbird missing arrows for scrolling through list of email messages

[zithro]

On 28 Apr 2023 00:58, dmacdoug wrote:

On Tue, Apr 25, 2023 at 02:46:38PM +, charlie derr wrote:

Greetings fine free software people.

A number of years ago, the little arrows at the top and bottom of the
scrollbar to the right of my "message list" view in thunderbird (I'm
currently using debian stable) disappeared.
[snip]


I've been waiting and hoping you'd get an answer, because I have exactly
the same problem and I haven't found a solution.
[snip]
I've been thinking of movng from T-bird to something else like Claws Mail to
solve the problem but haven't gotten around to it since I usually use Mutt
and only use T-bird on occasions when it's necessary to use a GUI interface.


Yeah, I hate it too when they remove stuff for ... what purpose again ? 
Who knows. Progress, design, w/e ?


As it seems a problem in the desktop/window manager, I'm not sure 
changing the software will change anything.

Or is it a desktop skin problem ?

On XFCE too, there are no more "lil arrows" anywhere, just the bars.
Nothing in settings, even the manual ones. But maybe if you ask on the 
XFCE forum, there is a hidden value to create ?


Also, maybe try running the Windows Thunderbird version under WINE, and 
it would display the arrows ?

I've not used WINE in a long time, so it's a wild guess.

However, on MATE, it seems the arrows are there !

Re: AW: Was it a good idea to buy an Epson printer?

[chris]

Nobody bumped this thread today so here goes 藍

On Wed, May 3, 2023, 5:35 AM Nicolas George  wrote:

> Schwibinger Michael (12023-05-03):
> > What do I do wrong?
>
> Among other things, what you are doing wrong:
>
> - Top posting.
>
> - Using 0x65 0x57 0x3A 0x20 instead of 0x52 0x65 0x3A 0x20 as a reply
>   marker in the subject.
>
> --
>   Nicolas George
>
>

Re: Email bodies not show anymore in Evolution Email

[Jim Popovitch]

On May 4, 2023 6:13:04 PM UTC, Cindy Sue Causey  
wrote:
>
>The security involvement appears to be that one current fix is to
>downgrade which "leaves the user with an unpatched version of WebKit".
>
>Cindy :)

While that wasn't my intention when I wrote it, I'm happy to see the rush of 
attention that got this issue resolved for everyone.  Excellent job Debian 
team! 

-Jim P. 

Re: Email bodies not show anymore in Evolution Email

[Tixy]

On Thu, 2023-05-04 at 20:09 +0200, zithro wrote:
> 
> A recent email from the Debian security team confirms this (Advisory 
> DSA-5396-2) :
> 
> "The webkit2gtk update released as 5396-1 introduced a compatibility
> problem that caused Evolution to display e-mail incorrectly. Evolution
> has been updated to solve this issue.
> 
> For the stable distribution (bullseye), this problem has been fixed in
> version 3.38.3-1+deb11u2."
> 

Yep, just updated and the problem is fixed by

evolution (3.38.3-1+deb11u2) bullseye-security; urgency=medium

  * Cherry pick a couple of upstream patches to solve regressions caused
by the upgrade to WebKitGTK 2.40.x:
- debian/patches/frame-flattening.patch: display email bodies properly
  (Closes: #1035469).
- debian/patches/scroll-preview-messages.patch: allow scrolling
  message previews with the space bar.

 -- Alberto Garcia   Thu, 04 May 2023 17:54:18 +0200

Re: Email bodies not show anymore in Evolution Email

[Cindy Sue Causey]

On 5/4/23, Christoph Pleger  wrote:
>>
> Hello,
>
>> I have had just the same problem. I think it is caused by the last
>> security upgrade by unattended-upgrades of these packages:
>> gir1.2-javascriptcoregtk-4.0
>> gir1.2-webkit2-4.0
>> libjavascriptcoregtk-4.0-18
>> libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37
>
> Ah, thank you very much for that information. In the meanwhile, I found
> that there is already a bug report available at Debian about that.


Am almost simultaneously reading this thread AND the
Debian-Security-Announce post about the same:

In part, it says:

"Package: evolution
Debian Bug : 1035469

The webkit2gtk update released as 5396-1 introduced a compatibility
problem that caused Evolution to display e-mail incorrectly. Evolution
has been updated to solve this issue."

https://lists.debian.org/debian-security-announce/2023/msg00088.html

The bug:

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1035469

The security involvement appears to be that one current fix is to
downgrade which "leaves the user with an unpatched version of WebKit".

Cindy :)
-- 
Talking Rock, Pickens County, Georgia, USA
* runs with birdseed *

Re: Email bodies not show anymore in Evolution Email

[zithro]

On 04 May 2023 17:40, Tixy wrote:

On Thu, 2023-05-04 at 12:07 +0200, Christoph Pleger wrote:



Hello,


I have had just the same problem. I think it is caused by the last
security upgrade by unattended-upgrades of these packages:
gir1.2-javascriptcoregtk-4.0
gir1.2-webkit2-4.0
libjavascriptcoregtk-4.0-18
libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37


Ah, thank you very much for that information. In the meanwhile, I
found
that there is already a bug report available at Debian about that.


That's good, because I too can only read email by hitting Ctrl-U to
view the source.



A recent email from the Debian security team confirms this (Advisory 
DSA-5396-2) :


"The webkit2gtk update released as 5396-1 introduced a compatibility
problem that caused Evolution to display e-mail incorrectly. Evolution
has been updated to solve this issue.

For the stable distribution (bullseye), this problem has been fixed in
version 3.38.3-1+deb11u2."

RE: OT - ocultar una vpn

[juan carlos rebate]

De: RamsesEnviado: jueves, 4 de mayo de 2023 19:44Para: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.orgAsunto: RE: OT - ocultar una vpn El 4 de mayo de 2023 18:55:58 CEST, juan carlos rebate  escribió:>De: JavierDebian >Enviado: martes, 2 de mayo de 2023 19:26>Para: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org >Asunto: Re: OT - ocultar una vpn> >El 2/5/23 a las 12:05, Juan carlos Rebate escribió:> >> hola lista, disculpad si hay faltas de ortografía pero envio este> >> correo deprisa y corriendo. el tema es que intento acceder a una red> >> irc la cual mi proveedor tiene bloqueada, con varias vpn conocidas me> >> logro conectar pero solo por 5 segundos, despues me banean alegando> >> que la razón es estar usando una vpn, necesito saber si existe alguna> >> manera de saltar esa bobada, he probado con la de expressvpn, nordvpn,> >> norton security en el cual viene una vpn, opera (el cual siempre me da> >> la misma ip a pesar de cambiar la región), todos me los detecta y> >> banea. me da cosilla montar un openvpn en un dedicado o un vps si va a> >> dar el mismo resultado, alguien sabria como ocultar el uso de vpn? no> >> vale usar red 4g o 5g porque el operador es el mismo, los webproxy o> >> proxy tampoco valen, alguna otra idea? gracias y perdon por cualquier> >> error ortografico o de otro tipo> >> > >Probá con VPNs que ofusquen los métodos de detección de VPN.> >Dos que lo hacen:> >https://www.cyberghostvpn.com> >https://surfshark.com> >SurfShark se puede activar el ofuscador en forma manual o automática.> >JAP> >Hola, perdón por tardar en responder. Ninguna vpn ofusca absolutamente nada, he probado 10 vpn y todas las tedecta como vpn/proxy, supuestamente son capaces de burlar Netflix, hbo y demás que son mas avanzadas y ninguna burla una mrda de servidor irc?. Según surfshark no hay fugas, ninguna de sus ip están en lista negra y dicen tener encriptado militar? Ya claro.Buenas tardes, En mi modesta opinión... A los servidores del IRC no debería nada referente a si la conexión proviene de una VPN o no, ya que la VPN irá terminada en un servidor terminador de VPN del proveedor y este mete el tráfico en Internet con la IP pertinente. Claro que pueden tener encriptacion militar, pero eso es entre el equipo cliente y el servidor terminador de la VPN, este servidor desencripta el tráfico de la VPN y lo mete en Internet sin encriptación ninguna. Otra cosa es que el servidor IRC tenga controlados los rangos de IP con los que esos proveedores de VPN meten el tráfico en Internet y detectan que viene de un proveedor de VPN.  Saludos Yo creo que es mas por el protocolo vpn, me deja acceder durante 2 segundos luego me lo banea, incluso con una vpn casera mee lo deetecta, no es cuestión del proveedor sino que son capaces de mirar el patrón de paquetes (no se como lo hace, si por algún tipo de cortafuegos o algún tipo de sistema de filtrado de paquetes, todas las vpn usan los mismos protocolos, openvpn udp y openvpn tcp entonces es normal que lo reconozca

RE: OT - ocultar una vpn

[Ramses]

El 4 de mayo de 2023 18:55:58 CEST, juan carlos rebate  
escribió:
>De: JavierDebian 
>Enviado: martes, 2 de mayo de 2023 19:26
>Para: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org 
>
>Asunto: Re: OT - ocultar una vpn
>
>El 2/5/23 a las 12:05, Juan carlos Rebate escribió:
>
>> hola lista, disculpad si hay faltas de ortografía pero envio este
>
>> correo deprisa y corriendo. el tema es que intento acceder a una red
>
>> irc la cual mi proveedor tiene bloqueada, con varias vpn conocidas me
>
>> logro conectar pero solo por 5 segundos, despues me banean alegando
>
>> que la razón es estar usando una vpn, necesito saber si existe alguna
>
>> manera de saltar esa bobada, he probado con la de expressvpn, nordvpn,
>
>> norton security en el cual viene una vpn, opera (el cual siempre me da
>
>> la misma ip a pesar de cambiar la región), todos me los detecta y
>
>> banea. me da cosilla montar un openvpn en un dedicado o un vps si va a
>
>> dar el mismo resultado, alguien sabria como ocultar el uso de vpn? no
>
>> vale usar red 4g o 5g porque el operador es el mismo, los webproxy o
>
>> proxy tampoco valen, alguna otra idea? gracias y perdon por cualquier
>
>> error ortografico o de otro tipo
>
>> 
>
>Probá con VPNs que ofusquen los métodos de detección de VPN.
>
>Dos que lo hacen:
>
>https://www.cyberghostvpn.com
>
>https://surfshark.com
>
>SurfShark se puede activar el ofuscador en forma manual o automática.
>
>JAP
>
>Hola, perdón por tardar en responder. Ninguna vpn ofusca absolutamente nada, 
>he probado 10 vpn y todas las tedecta como vpn/proxy, supuestamente son 
>capaces de burlar Netflix, hbo y demás que son mas avanzadas y ninguna burla 
>una mrda de servidor irc?. Según surfshark no hay fugas, ninguna de sus ip 
>están en lista negra y dicen tener encriptado militar? Ya claro.
Buenas tardes,

En mi modesta opinión...

A los servidores del IRC no debería nada referente a si la conexión proviene de 
una VPN o no, ya que la VPN irá terminada en un servidor terminador de VPN del 
proveedor y este mete el tráfico en Internet con la IP pertinente. Claro que 
pueden tener encriptacion militar, pero eso es entre el equipo cliente y el 
servidor terminador de la VPN, este servidor desencripta el tráfico de la VPN y 
lo mete en Internet sin encriptación ninguna.

Otra cosa es que el servidor IRC tenga controlados los rangos de IP con los que 
esos proveedores de VPN meten el tráfico en Internet y detectan que viene de un 
proveedor de VPN.


Saludos

Re: processing /etc/sysctl.d

[Greg Wooledge]

On Thu, May 04, 2023 at 01:22:40PM -0400, Lee wrote:
> OK.. I'll try to figure out how to modify whatever in /etc/NetworkManager

I've been told that Network Manager will ignore any interfaces that
are defined in /etc/network/interfaces.  So the correct way to set up
a static address on that interface would be to add it in /e/n/i and
simply don't touch Network Manager at all.

auto lo
iface lo inet loopback

auto enp1s0
iface enp1s0 inet static
address 192.168.x.y/24
# gateway 192.168.x.1  if you need this to be the default route
up sysctl blah blah blah

Also, having "auto enp1s0" here will tell systemd that this interface
is one that matters, and that this interface needs to be up before it
can activate any services that depend on the "network being up".  I
have no idea how that works with N-M because I've never used N-M.

I can't help you with IPv6.

Re: processing /etc/sysctl.d

[Lee]

On 5/4/23, Andy Smith wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On Thu, May 04, 2023 at 08:43:52AM +0200, Michel Verdier wrote:
>> Yes setting parameter on interface is better done in
>> /etc/network/interfaces or /etc/network/interfaces.d/*
>> which is used when the interface is configured
>
> There's definitely race conditions between creation of interface and
> setting of sysctls at boot, so I agree - I don't think I would use sysctl.d
> for any of those interface settings except default/all.
>
> I also don't know if an interface goes away and comes back again (
> think ppp, dummy, VPNs, etc) if it gets the same sysctl settings as
> you set last time or if it just gets the "default" ones all over
> again. I suspect the latter.

enp1s0 does _not_ get the default settings -- I spent way too much
time figuring out how to get ipv6 working on this machine and now,
after upgrading to 11.7, it's broken :(

> So yeah, multiple reasons to not try setting per-interface sysctls
> in sysctl.d.

OK.. I'll try to figure out how to modify whatever in /etc/NetworkManager


  Why isn't that caveat mentioned in the man pages?  It seems like a
rather serious deficiency in sysctl.d


Thanks
Lee

Re: processing /etc/sysctl.d

[Lee]

On 5/4/23, Michel Verdier  wrote:
> Le 4 mai 2023 Greg Wooledge a écrit :
>
>> A guess: perhaps this parameter cannot be set during the initial boot,
>> because the enp1s0 interface isn't in a working state yet.
>
> Yes setting parameter on interface is better done in
> /etc/network/interfaces or /etc/network/interfaces.d/*
> which is used when the interface is configured
> with a stanse like
>
> auto enp1s0...
>   sysctl net/ipv6/conf/default/accept_ra = 1

I suspect that won't work for me:

$ cat /etc/network/interfaces
# This file describes the network interfaces available on your system
# and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5).

source /etc/network/interfaces.d/*

# The loopback network interface
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback

$ ls -l interfaces.d
total 0

I didn't know what I was doing when I set this machine up & used the
GUI interface to network manager to configure a static ipv4 address.
Or at least I think it's network manager .. ps shows it as
/usr/bin/nm-connection-editor

Thanks
Lee

Re: processing /etc/sysctl.d

[Lee]

On 5/3/23, Andy Smith wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On Wed, May 03, 2023 at 07:50:30PM -0400, Lee wrote:
>> I'm at a loss for how to figure out why my settings aren't taking effect.
>>
>> $ head /etc/sysctl.d/local.conf
>
> […]
>
>> # accept router advertisements
>> net/ipv6/conf/enp1s0/accept_ra = 1
>
> Is it possible that enp1s0 didn't yet exist at the time that
> systemd-sysctl.service ran? To check, you could instead set the key
>
> net/ipv6/conf/default/accept_ra = 1
>
it's already set

> then any new interfaces should get accept_ra=1 as they are created.
>
> Though when I look at my net/ipv6/conf/default/accept_ra it is
> already set to 1, so another possibility is that you have something
> that is setting net/ipv6/conf/enp1s0/accept_ra back to 0 after
> systemd-sysctl.service already set it to 1. NetworkManager is known
> to do this:
>
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1025073
>
> So, what are you using to manage enp1s0?

yup - I'm using NetworkManager
I wanted a static ipv4 address and that was the only thing I could get working

Thanks
Lee

Re: processing /etc/sysctl.d

[Lee]

On 5/3/23, Greg Wooledge  wrote:
> On Wed, May 03, 2023 at 07:50:30PM -0400, Lee wrote:
>> $ head /etc/sysctl.d/local.conf
>> # my site local preferences
>> #
>> # man sysctl.d
>> #   Configure kernel parameters at boot
>> #   /etc/sysctl.d/*.conf
>> #   key/name/under/proc/sys = some value
>>
>> # accept router advertisements
>> net/ipv6/conf/enp1s0/accept_ra = 1
>>
>>
>> $ cat /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/enp1s0/accept_ra
>> 0
>>
>>
>> Telling the system to read /etc/sysctl.d/local.conf works:
>> $ sudo sysctl --load=/etc/sysctl.d/local.conf
>>   <.. snip lots ..>
>>
>> $ cat /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/enp1s0/accept_ra
>> 1
>>
>> How do I get the system to read it at boot time?
>
> A guess: perhaps this parameter cannot be set during the initial boot,
> because the enp1s0 interface isn't in a working state yet.
>
> If you put another parameter in the same local.conf file, one that's
> *not* tied to a piece of hardware, does it work?

Yes.  All of the directives that do _not_ mention enp1s0 "take".
What's annoying is that all this worked before upgrading to 11.7  ..
and I'm positive of that because this is a server running bind that
now dies on the
  query-source-v6 address xx::yy port *;
line in named.conf :(

Is there a way to get systemd to do  list of commands in
/etc/sysctl.d/something.conf
and  set of commands in /etc/sysctl.d/somethingElse.conf _after_
all the interfaces come up?

Thanks
Lee

RE: OT - ocultar una vpn

[juan carlos rebate]

De: JavierDebianEnviado: martes, 2 de mayo de 2023 19:26Para: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.orgAsunto: Re: OT - ocultar una vpn   El 2/5/23 a las 12:05, Juan carlos Rebate escribió:> hola lista, disculpad si hay faltas de ortografía pero envio este> correo deprisa y corriendo. el tema es que intento acceder a una red> irc la cual mi proveedor tiene bloqueada, con varias vpn conocidas me> logro conectar pero solo por 5 segundos, despues me banean alegando> que la razón es estar usando una vpn, necesito saber si existe alguna> manera de saltar esa bobada, he probado con la de expressvpn, nordvpn,> norton security en el cual viene una vpn, opera (el cual siempre me da> la misma ip a pesar de cambiar la región), todos me los detecta y> banea. me da cosilla montar un openvpn en un dedicado o un vps si va a> dar el mismo resultado, alguien sabria como ocultar el uso de vpn? no> vale usar red 4g o 5g porque el operador es el mismo, los webproxy o> proxy tampoco valen, alguna otra idea? gracias y perdon por cualquier> error ortografico o de otro tipo>   Probá con VPNs que ofusquen los métodos de detección de VPN.Dos que lo hacen: https://www.cyberghostvpn.com https://surfshark.com SurfShark se puede activar el ofuscador en forma manual o automática. JAP Hola, perdón por tardar en responder. Ninguna vpn ofusca absolutamente nada, he probado 10 vpn y todas las tedecta como  vpn/proxy, supuestamente son capaces de burlar Netflix, hbo y demás que son mas avanzadas y ninguna burla una mrda de servidor irc?. Según surfshark no hay fugas, ninguna de sus ip están en lista negra y dicen tener encriptado militar? Ya claro.

Re: [Installation][debian][Thomson N17csl512] : Démarrage impossible

[Luc Novales]

Bonjour,

Le 04/05/2023 à 12:33, NoSpam a écrit :


Bonjour. J'essayerai de supprimer quiet dans la ligne de commande de 
démarrage (si on arrive jusque la), rajouterai vga=780 ou 792 et 
noapic acpi=off



Ni le menu ventoy, ni grub ne s'affichent, le device semble bloqué avant.

A+

Luc.

Re: What settings should be used for VM?

[Igor Korot]

zithro,

On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 10:16 AM zithro  wrote:
>
> On 04 May 2023 14:42, Igor Korot wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I am trying install Debian Buster on the VirtualBox as a guest.
> >
> > I set the VM to use HostOnly network with DHCP enabled, but when I ran the
> > installer it failed to auto-configure the network.
> >
> > How do I solve it?
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > P.S.: I need python 2, therefore trying to use older version.
> >
>
> Host-only network is only useful to allow network communications between
> the host and the guest, but not to the outside (local network, internet,
> etc). It's like an isolated bridge.
> You can also put several VMs on this bridge so they can communicate
> together.
>
> Do you need internet access on this VM for your python developments ?
> Because if not, just download a full version (DVD ?) of the installer
> and then do everything offline.
>
> If you need internet, you will have to use NAT, but you got the pointer
> already.

I will try to use NAT then.

Thank you.

>

Re: Email bodies not show anymore in Evolution Email

[Tixy]

On Thu, 2023-05-04 at 12:07 +0200, Christoph Pleger wrote:
> > 
> Hello,
> 
> > I have had just the same problem. I think it is caused by the last 
> > security upgrade by unattended-upgrades of these packages:
> > gir1.2-javascriptcoregtk-4.0
> > gir1.2-webkit2-4.0
> > libjavascriptcoregtk-4.0-18
> > libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37
> 
> Ah, thank you very much for that information. In the meanwhile, I
> found
> that there is already a bug report available at Debian about that.

That's good, because I too can only read email by hitting Ctrl-U to
view the source.

-- 
Tixy

Re: What settings should be used for VM?

[zithro]

On 04 May 2023 14:42, Igor Korot wrote:

Hi,
I am trying install Debian Buster on the VirtualBox as a guest.

I set the VM to use HostOnly network with DHCP enabled, but when I ran the
installer it failed to auto-configure the network.

How do I solve it?

Thank you.

P.S.: I need python 2, therefore trying to use older version.



Host-only network is only useful to allow network communications between 
the host and the guest, but not to the outside (local network, internet, 
etc). It's like an isolated bridge.
You can also put several VMs on this bridge so they can communicate 
together.


Do you need internet access on this VM for your python developments ?
Because if not, just download a full version (DVD ?) of the installer 
and then do everything offline.


If you need internet, you will have to use NAT, but you got the pointer 
already.

Re: What settings should be used for VM?

[Jeffrey Walton]

On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 10:31 AM Igor Korot  wrote:
>
> Hi, Jeffrey,
>
> On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 9:03 AM Jeffrey Walton  wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 8:42 AM Igor Korot  wrote:
> > >
> > > I am trying install Debian Buster on the VirtualBox as a guest.
> > >
> > > I set the VM to use HostOnly network with DHCP enabled, but when I ran 
> > > the installer it failed to auto-configure the network.
> > >
> > > How do I solve it?
> >
> > The guest should use a bridged adapter if wired ethernet. It will get
> > its own IP address from your DHCP server.
> >
> > If the host is using Wifi, you cannot use bridged for a guest. You
> > have to use another type, but I don't recall what it is.
>
> I am using WiFi.
> Could you please check your memory... ;-)

I think you have to use NAT, but it has some limitations. See
https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?t=85927 .

Sorry I don't recall better, it's been about 7 years. A lot has
probably changed since that time.

Jeff

Re: What settings should be used for VM?

[Igor Korot]

Hi, David,

On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 9:00 AM David Christensen
 wrote:
>
> On 5/4/23 05:42, Igor Korot wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I am trying install Debian Buster on the VirtualBox as a guest.
> >
> > I set the VM to use HostOnly network with DHCP enabled, but when I ran the
> > installer it failed to auto-configure the network.
> >
> > How do I solve it?
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > P.S.: I need python 2, therefore trying to use older version.
>
>
> I run VirtualBox on Debian:

I don't - my host is Gentoo currently for this install.
I am trying to set a guest as Debian Buster.

Thank you.

>
> 2023-05-04 06:43:24 root@taz ~
> # cat /etc/debian_version ; uname -a
> 11.7
> Linux taz 5.10.0-22-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 5.10.178-3 (2023-04-22) x86_64
> GNU/Linux
>
> 2023-05-04 06:43:44 root@taz ~
> # dpkg-query -W | grep -i virtualbox
> virtualbox-7.0  7.0.8-156879~Debian~bullseye
>
>
> There is one VM:
>
> 2023-05-04 06:50:56 dpchrist@taz ~
> $ VBoxManage list -l vms | grep NIC
> NIC 1:   MAC: , Attachment: Bridged
> Interface 'eno1', Cable connected: on, Trace: off (file: none), Type:
> 82540EM, Reported speed: 0 Mbps, Boot priority: 0, Promisc Policy: deny,
> Bandwidth group: none
> NIC 2:   disabled
> NIC 3:   disabled
> NIC 4:   disabled
> NIC 5:   disabled
> NIC 6:   disabled
> NIC 7:   disabled
> NIC 8:   disabled
>
>
> Oracle VM VirtualBox Manager (GUI) -> select VM "vf1" in left pane ->
> select Current State in top right pane -> left click Settings in right
> toolbar -> select Network in left pane -> Adapter 1 is selected in right
> pane:
>
>Enabled Network Adapter  checked
>Attached to  Bridged Adapter
>Name eno1
>Advanced
>  Adapter Type   Intel PRO/1000 MT Desktop (8254OEM)
>  Promiscuous Mode   Deny
>  MAC Address
>  Cable Connectedchecked
>
>
> David
>

Re: What settings should be used for VM?

[Igor Korot]

Hi, Jeffrey,

On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 9:03 AM Jeffrey Walton  wrote:
>
> On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 8:42 AM Igor Korot  wrote:
> >
> > I am trying install Debian Buster on the VirtualBox as a guest.
> >
> > I set the VM to use HostOnly network with DHCP enabled, but when I ran the 
> > installer it failed to auto-configure the network.
> >
> > How do I solve it?
>
> The guest should use a bridged adapter if wired ethernet. It will get
> its own IP address from your DHCP server.
>
> If the host is using Wifi, you cannot use bridged for a guest. You
> have to use another type, but I don't recall what it is.

I am using WiFi.
Could you please check your memory... ;-)

Thank you.

>
> Jeff

Re: What settings should be used for VM?

[Jeffrey Walton]

On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 8:42 AM Igor Korot  wrote:
>
> I am trying install Debian Buster on the VirtualBox as a guest.
>
> I set the VM to use HostOnly network with DHCP enabled, but when I ran the 
> installer it failed to auto-configure the network.
>
> How do I solve it?

The guest should use a bridged adapter if wired ethernet. It will get
its own IP address from your DHCP server.

If the host is using Wifi, you cannot use bridged for a guest. You
have to use another type, but I don't recall what it is.

Jeff

Re: What settings should be used for VM?

[David Christensen]

On 5/4/23 05:42, Igor Korot wrote:

Hi,
I am trying install Debian Buster on the VirtualBox as a guest.

I set the VM to use HostOnly network with DHCP enabled, but when I ran the
installer it failed to auto-configure the network.

How do I solve it?

Thank you.

P.S.: I need python 2, therefore trying to use older version.



I run VirtualBox on Debian:

2023-05-04 06:43:24 root@taz ~
# cat /etc/debian_version ; uname -a
11.7
Linux taz 5.10.0-22-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 5.10.178-3 (2023-04-22) x86_64 
GNU/Linux


2023-05-04 06:43:44 root@taz ~
# dpkg-query -W | grep -i virtualbox
virtualbox-7.0  7.0.8-156879~Debian~bullseye


There is one VM:

2023-05-04 06:50:56 dpchrist@taz ~
$ VBoxManage list -l vms | grep NIC
NIC 1:   MAC: , Attachment: Bridged 
Interface 'eno1', Cable connected: on, Trace: off (file: none), Type: 
82540EM, Reported speed: 0 Mbps, Boot priority: 0, Promisc Policy: deny, 
Bandwidth group: none

NIC 2:   disabled
NIC 3:   disabled
NIC 4:   disabled
NIC 5:   disabled
NIC 6:   disabled
NIC 7:   disabled
NIC 8:   disabled


Oracle VM VirtualBox Manager (GUI) -> select VM "vf1" in left pane -> 
select Current State in top right pane -> left click Settings in right 
toolbar -> select Network in left pane -> Adapter 1 is selected in right 
pane:


  Enabled Network Adapter   checked
  Attached to   Bridged Adapter
  Name  eno1
  Advanced
Adapter TypeIntel PRO/1000 MT Desktop (8254OEM)
Promiscuous ModeDeny
MAC Address 
Cable Connected checked


David

What settings should be used for VM?

[Igor Korot]

Hi,
I am trying install Debian Buster on the VirtualBox as a guest.

I set the VM to use HostOnly network with DHCP enabled, but when I ran the
installer it failed to auto-configure the network.

How do I solve it?

Thank you.

P.S.: I need python 2, therefore trying to use older version.

Re: processing /etc/sysctl.d

[Andy Smith]

Hello,

On Thu, May 04, 2023 at 08:43:52AM +0200, Michel Verdier wrote:
> Yes setting parameter on interface is better done in
> /etc/network/interfaces or /etc/network/interfaces.d/*
> which is used when the interface is configured

There's definitely race conditions between creation of interface and
setting of sysctls at boot, so I agree - I don't think I would use sysctl.d
for any of those interface settings except default/all.

I also don't know if an interface goes away and comes back again (
think ppp, dummy, VPNs, etc) if it gets the same sysctl settings as
you set last time or if it just gets the "default" ones all over
again. I suspect the latter.

So yeah, multiple reasons to not try setting per-interface sysctls
in sysctl.d.

Cheers,
Andy

-- 
https://bitfolk.com/ -- No-nonsense VPS hosting

Re: Email bodies not show anymore in Evolution Email

[Byung-Hee HWANG]

didier gaumet  writes:

> Le 04/05/2023 à 09:54, Christoph Pleger a écrit :
>> Hello,
>> suddenly, I have the problem in Evolution Email, that email bodies
>> are not shown anymore, but only the headers.
>> This affects my private email account as well as my email account
>> for work. Maybe I have changed some setting,
>> but I cannot remember to have done that.
>> Any idea?
>
> Hello,
>
> I have had just the same problem. I think it is caused by the last
> security upgrade by unattended-upgrades of these packages:
> gir1.2-javascriptcoregtk-4.0
> gir1.2-webkit2-4.0
> libjavascriptcoregtk-4.0-18
> libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37

Me too!
After 'sudo apt update; sudo apt upgrade', i met same problem.

This is obvious bug.

> in the unattended-upgrades mail that informed me of the upgrade,
> needrestart-session added that:
>
> User sessions running outdated binaries:
>  didier @ user manager service: bwrap[2629], evolution[2417],
>  gnome-session=
> -b[2185], systemd[1956]
> Log ended: 2023-05-04  09:35:34
>
> So I restarted my gdm session (and thus Evolution)
> And since then, Evolution does not show email bodies
>
> It seems to me to be a regression bug likely caused by the upgrade of
> one the four packages above (I have done a dpkg-reconfigure of them, 
> without success)
>
>

My package is:
Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye)
Evolution 3.38.3-1+deb11u1

Sincerely, Byung-Hee

-- 
^고맙습니다 _布德天下_ 감사합니다_^))//

AW: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using the wrong driver

[Schwibinger Michael]

Good morning

Thank You for the jokes.


Can somenody help with the printing problem.

There is a driver
but the printer said:

Is bad.

The name is:


epson-inkjet-printer-escpr_1.7.25-1lsb3.2_amd64.deb

Regards Sophie



Von: Thomas Schmitt 
Gesendet: Dienstag, 2. Mai 2023 09:32
An: debian-user@lists.debian.org 
Betreff: Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using 
the wrong driver

Hi,

Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > > If you still have issues with your printer, I strongly advise you to ask
> > > on the German mailing list,

Thomas Hochstein wrote:
> > They started on the German mailing list, about a year ago ...

Schwibinger Michael / Sophie wrote:
> The Germans did send You to this list.

No. The Germans did send You to this list.

(I could not resist biting the obvious comedy bait and did not even
check whether there was really the advise to mail to debian-user.)


> Was this wrong?

Maybe they wanted to let the world participate in the experience of a
"Hurz!" performance.

Regrettably there is no english version of
  https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurz!
So i try to translate the first sentences:

  Hurz! is a tv prank by Hape Kerkeling and Achim Hagemann, which belongs
  to the best known works of Kerkeling. [...] aired in 1991 [...]
  Kerkeling and Hagemann pretend to be polish musicians who [...] present
  the unaware audience an alleged excerpt from an opera by a fictive
  contemporary classic composer. Although the text is comprised of short
  nonsense passages which get multiple times interrupted by the outcry
  "Hoorts!", parts of the audience try hard to find a sincere
  interpretation during the subsequent discussion.


About half of the audience of the thread "Debian bootet nicht / Screenshot"
at
  https://lists.debian.org/debian-user-german/2022/10/threads.html
makes mocking comments about the overall Sophie show. The other half is
quarreling over the question whether Hanlon's Razor cuts correctly in this
case.
In
  https://lists.debian.org/debian-user-german/2023/03/msg00123.html
i see 100% non-Hanlon opinions including a "sudo rm -R /" assassination
attempt.


Have a nice day :)

Thomas

Re: [Installation][debian][Thomson N17csl512] : Démarrage impossible

[didier gaumet]

Bonjour,

il y a une mince possibilité que ce soit un problème similaire à 
l'enfilade qui commence ici (lire tous les posts):

https://lists.debian.org/debian-user-french/2023/04/msg00052.html

Il semble y avoir eu au moins une installation Linux couronnée de succès 
sur ton PC (lire en détail, y a peut-être des précisions intéressantes):

https://linux-hardware.org/?probe=11d0b3229b

Re: processing /etc/sysctl.d

[Greg Wooledge]

On Thu, May 04, 2023 at 12:09:25PM +0200, Michel Verdier wrote:
> Le 4 mai 2023 Michel Verdier a écrit :
> 
> > with a stanse like
> >
> > auto enp1s0...
> >   sysctl net/ipv6/conf/default/accept_ra = 1
> 
> I mean
> 
>sysctl net.ipv6.conf.enp1s0.accept_ra = 1

And it goes in the "iface" stanza, not the "auto" one, just in case
that wasn't clear to the OP.

Re: [Installation][debian][Thomson N17csl512] : Démarrage impossible

[NoSpam]

Bonjour. J'essayerai de supprimer quiet dans la ligne de commande de 
démarrage (si on arrive jusque la), rajouterai vga=780 ou 792 et noapic 
acpi=off


Le 04/05/2023 à 11:01, Luc Novales a écrit :


Bonjour,

Même en ayant essayé pas mal de réglages relatifs au secureboot et au 
démarrage legacy ou UEFI, je n'arrive pas à faire démarrer 
l'ordinateur portable Thomson - N17csl512 
 
sur une clé d'installation ou un DVD (lecteur usb externe) debian, 
debian facile, ubuntu directement ou via une clé ventoy.


J'ai un écran noir, au mieux, un curseur fixe. La lecture sur le 
périphérique externe s'arrête et la situation reste stable ;).


Les données du BIOS sont :

|AMI BIOS Core version : 5.13 Compliancy : UEFI 2.7; PI 1.6 Project 
version : GM17CE BO.14 x64|


Avez vous réussi à installer debian sur cette machine ?

Quels réglages du BIOS ?

Un lien vers la bonne procédure ?

Merci,

Luc.

PS : Un DVD d'install Seven démarre en UEFI dans le lecteur externe

Re: processing /etc/sysctl.d

[Michel Verdier]

Le 4 mai 2023 Michel Verdier a écrit :

> with a stanse like
>
> auto enp1s0...
>   sysctl net/ipv6/conf/default/accept_ra = 1

I mean

   sysctl net.ipv6.conf.enp1s0.accept_ra = 1
   

Re: Email bodies not show anymore in Evolution Email

[Christoph Pleger]

> 
Hello,

> I have had just the same problem. I think it is caused by the last 
> security upgrade by unattended-upgrades of these packages:
> gir1.2-javascriptcoregtk-4.0
> gir1.2-webkit2-4.0
> libjavascriptcoregtk-4.0-18
> libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37

Ah, thank you very much for that information. In the meanwhile, I found
that there is already a bug report available at Debian about that.

Regards
  Christoph


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[Installation][debian][Thomson N17csl512] : Démarrage impossible

[Luc Novales]

Bonjour,

Même en ayant essayé pas mal de réglages relatifs au secureboot et au 
démarrage legacy ou UEFI, je n'arrive pas à faire démarrer l'ordinateur 
portable Thomson - N17csl512 
 
sur une clé d'installation ou un DVD (lecteur usb externe) debian, 
debian facile, ubuntu directement ou via une clé ventoy.


J'ai un écran noir, au mieux, un curseur fixe. La lecture sur le 
périphérique externe s'arrête et la situation reste stable ;).


Les données du BIOS sont :

|AMI BIOS Core version : 5.13 Compliancy : UEFI 2.7; PI 1.6 Project 
version : GM17CE BO.14 x64|


Avez vous réussi à installer debian sur cette machine ?

Quels réglages du BIOS ?

Un lien vers la bonne procédure ?

Merci,

Luc.

PS : Un DVD d'install Seven démarre en UEFI dans le lecteur externe

Re: Email bodies not show anymore in Evolution Email

[didier gaumet]

Le 04/05/2023 à 09:54, Christoph Pleger a écrit :

Hello,

suddenly, I have the problem in Evolution Email, that email bodies are not 
shown anymore, but only the headers.
This affects my private email account as well as my email account for work. 
Maybe I have changed some setting,
but I cannot remember to have done that.

Any idea?


Hello,

I have had just the same problem. I think it is caused by the last 
security upgrade by unattended-upgrades of these packages:

gir1.2-javascriptcoregtk-4.0
gir1.2-webkit2-4.0
libjavascriptcoregtk-4.0-18
libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37

in the unattended-upgrades mail that informed me of the upgrade, 
needrestart-session added that:


User sessions running outdated binaries:
 didier @ user manager service: bwrap[2629], evolution[2417], 
gnome-session=

-b[2185], systemd[1956]
Log ended: 2023-05-04  09:35:34

So I restarted my gdm session (and thus Evolution)
And since then, Evolution does not show email bodies

It seems to me to be a regression bug likely caused by the upgrade of 
one the four packages above (I have done a dpkg-reconfigure of them, 
without success)

Re: date de sortie prévisionnelle de Debian 12 Bookworm: le 10 juin 2023

[didier gaumet]

Le 04/05/2023 à 09:04, Michel Verdier a écrit :


Ça dépend comment tu lance X. Xorg est toujours lancé en root, c'est
normal pour éviter les failles de sécurité. J'ai eu ce problème sur
Bullseye. Je lance Xorg via startx. J'ai manipé pour que
/tmp/serverauth... soit créé avec l'uid de mon user. Malheureusement je
n'ai pas noté la manip. Mais je crois que j'ai juste créé un ~/.xserverrc
avec

#!/bin/sh
exec /usr/bin/X -nolisten tcp -nolisten local "$@"

Selon comment tu lances X je ne sais pas si ça peut être applicable.
Si tu passes par un DM pour te logguer c'est lui qui fait la bascule
sur ton user. Donc regarde dans ta conf du DM utilisé si tu n'as pas une
personnalisation qui casse ça.




Je suis vraiment ignare pour les problématiques de sécurité en général 
et en environnement graphique en particulier, donc prendre ce que je dis 
avec le recul nécessaire :-)


mais j'avais cru comprendre qu'historiquement X11 était lancé par root 
surtout pour pouvoir accéder aux ressources nécessaires, et qu'au fil du 
temps on a découvert des failles potentielles de sécurité qui rendaient 
ce mode de fonctionnement indésirable. On privilégie donc a priori de 
nos jours un lancement de X11 par un utilisateur "ordinaire".


Dans le cas ed Debian 11 Bullseye, avec display manager GDM et session 
Gnome "Classic" (c'est important car la session Gnome "de base" avec 
Debian11/GDM lance une session Wayland alors que la session "Classic" 
lance toujours une session Xorg),
Donc dans ce cas, GDM est lancé par root (UID 0) mais la session Gnome 
"Classic" et Xorg sont lancés par mon user (didier, UID 1000):



didier@hp-notebook14:~$ ps -axl | grep -i xorg
4  100082978295  20   0 884680 85768 -  Sl+  tty3   0:51 
/usr/lib/xorg/Xorg vt3 -displayfd 3 -auth /run/user/1000/gdm/Xauthority 
-nolisten tcp -background none -noreset -keeptty -novtswitch -verbose 3
0  1000   11387   11332  20   0  19344   644 -  S+   pts/0  0:00 grep 
-i xorg
didier@hp-notebook14:~$ ps -axl | grep -i gdm
4 01064   1  20   0 252828  8912 -  Ssl  ?  0:00 
/usr/sbin/gdm3
4 082861064  20   0 180140 10256 -  Sl   ?  0:00 
gdm-session-worker [pam/gdm-password]
4  100082958286  20   0 175320  6532 -  Ssl+ tty3   0:00 
/usr/libexec/gdm-x-session --register-session --run-script gnome-session-classic
4  100082978295  20   0 884664 85768 -  Sl+  tty3   0:51 
/usr/lib/xorg/Xorg vt3 -displayfd 3 -auth /run/user/1000/gdm/Xauthority 
-nolisten tcp -background none -noreset -keeptty -novtswitch -verbose 3
0  1000   11389   11332  20   0  19212   704 -  S+   pts/0  0:00 grep 
-i gdm


le wiki Archlinux a une section sur le lancement de Xorg par un 
utilisateur ordinaire:

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Xorg#Rootless_Xorg

Email bodies not show anymore in Evolution Email

[Christoph Pleger]

Hello,

suddenly, I have the problem in Evolution Email, that email bodies are not 
shown anymore, but only the headers.
This affects my private email account as well as my email account for work. 
Maybe I have changed some setting,
but I cannot remember to have done that.

Any idea?

Regards
  Christoph





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Re: date de sortie prévisionnelle de Debian 12 Bookworm: le 10 juin 2023

[Michel Verdier]

Le 1 mai 2023 benoit a écrit :

> J'ai essayé 2x de passer en Bookworm, mais après la mise à jour, X ne veut 
> plus se lancer, car il n'a pas le droit d'écrire dans /tmp:LOCKMACHIN BIDULE 
> (G pas noté le message d'erreur)
>
> Seul root peut lancer x

Ça dépend comment tu lance X. Xorg est toujours lancé en root, c'est
normal pour éviter les failles de sécurité. J'ai eu ce problème sur
Bullseye. Je lance Xorg via startx. J'ai manipé pour que
/tmp/serverauth... soit créé avec l'uid de mon user. Malheureusement je
n'ai pas noté la manip. Mais je crois que j'ai juste créé un ~/.xserverrc
avec

#!/bin/sh
exec /usr/bin/X -nolisten tcp -nolisten local "$@"

Selon comment tu lances X je ne sais pas si ça peut être applicable.
Si tu passes par un DM pour te logguer c'est lui qui fait la bascule
sur ton user. Donc regarde dans ta conf du DM utilisé si tu n'as pas une
personnalisation qui casse ça.

Re: processing /etc/sysctl.d

[Michel Verdier]

Le 4 mai 2023 Greg Wooledge a écrit :

> A guess: perhaps this parameter cannot be set during the initial boot,
> because the enp1s0 interface isn't in a working state yet.

Yes setting parameter on interface is better done in
/etc/network/interfaces or /etc/network/interfaces.d/*
which is used when the interface is configured
with a stanse like

auto enp1s0...
  sysctl net/ipv6/conf/default/accept_ra = 1