Problem with apt maybe related to installation/configuration of apt-cacher-ng

2023-05-30 Thread Dennis Heddicke

Hello,

i have a problem with "apt update", everytime i execute the command, i 
get the following error messages:


Get:1 http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security 
InRelease [48,0 kB]

Get:2 http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm InRelease [193 kB]
Err:1 http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security 
InRelease
 The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 112695A0E562B32A Debian 
Security Archive Automatic Signing Key (10/buster) 

Err:2 http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm InRelease
 The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 648ACFD622F3D138 Debian 
Archive Automatic Signing Key (10/buster) 

Fetched 241 kB in 0s (507 kB/s)
Reading package lists... Done
W: An error occurred during the signature verification. The repository 
is not updated and the previous index files will be used.
GPG error: http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security 
InRelease: The following signatures were invalid:
BADSIG 112695A0E562B32A Debian Security Archive Automatic Signing Key 
(10/buster) 
W: An error occurred during the signature verification. The repository 
is not updated and the previous index files will be used.
GPG error: http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm InRelease: The 
following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 648ACFD622F3D

138 Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (10/buster) 
W: Failed to fetch http://deb.debian.org/debian/dists/bookworm/InRelease 
 The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 648ACFD622F3D138

Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (10/buster) 
W: Failed to fetch 
http://security.debian.org/debian-security/dists/bookworm-security/InRelease 
 The following signatures were invalid:
BADSIG 112695A0E562B32A Debian Security Archive Automatic Signing Key 
(10/buster) 
W: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old 
ones used instead.


I use Debian 12. The only changes i did before the problem occurred, 
were the installation of apt-cacher-ng and i ran "mach bootstrap" in a 
chroot. I don't think, the last thing would change this much the 
operating system, although it was a stupid idea. Even more stupid, since 
the solution for my problem  was the installation of "sudo" in the 
chroot.  So maybe the first one is responsible for the problem.


So far I tried the following configurations for apt-cacher-ng, to 
resolve the problem:


Acquire::http::proxy "http://localhost:3142;;
Acquire::https::proxy "https://;;

and

Acquire::http {Proxy "http://127.0.0.1:3142;; };
Acquire::https {Proxy "https://;; };

but none solved it.

I hope someone can help me with my problem. Thank you in advance.

Best Regards
Dennis

Re: Bookworm soft lockup

2023-05-30 Thread Christian Gelinek

On Wed, 17 May 2023 02:12:32 +0100, Philip Wyett wrote:


A little research shows that this is not that uncommon. A suggested 
workaround is to disable the

power management for the device as follows.

Create a file (such as): 
/etc/modprobe.d/snd-intel-disable-power-management.conf


Add the following line: options snd_hda_intel power_save=0

Reboot.

Hopefully this may assist.


I tried:

$ ls -l /etc/modprobe.d/snd-intel-disable-power-management.conf
-rw-r- 1 root root 36 May 23 10:01 
/etc/modprobe.d/snd-intel-disable-power-management.conf


$ sudo cat /etc/modprobe.d/snd-intel-disable-power-management.conf
options snd_hda_intel power_save=0

Nevertheless, this morning I arrived to the locked-up state. Journalctl 
output:


May 31 04:17:01 gar CRON[2175]: (root) CMD (cd / && run-parts --report 
/etc/cron.hourly)
May 31 04:17:01 gar CRON[2174]: pam_unix(cron:session): session closed 
for user root
May 31 05:12:00 gar kernel: snd_hda_intel :04:00.0: Unable to change 
power state from D3hot to D0, device inaccessible
May 31 05:12:03 gar kernel: [drm:fw_domains_get_with_fallback [i915]] 
*ERROR* render: timed out waiting for forcewake ack to clear.
May 31 05:12:03 gar kernel: i915 :03:00.0: [drm:add_taint_for_CI 
[i915]] CI tainted:0x9 by fw_domains_get_with_fallback+0x20c/0x>
May 31 05:12:07 gar kernel: INFO: NMI handler (perf_event_nmi_handler) 
took too long to run: 84.155 msecs
May 31 05:12:07 gar kernel: perf: interrupt took too long (657458 > 
2500), lowering kernel.perf_event_max_sample_rate to 250
May 31 05:12:07 gar kernel: [drm:fw_domains_get_with_fallback [i915]] 
*ERROR* render: timed out waiting for forcewake ack to clear.
May 31 05:12:07 gar kernel: i915 :03:00.0: [drm:add_taint_for_CI 
[i915]] CI tainted:0x9 by fw_domains_get_with_fallback+0x20c/0x>
May 31 05:12:11 gar kernel: [drm:fw_domains_get_with_fallback [i915]] 
*ERROR* render: timed out waiting for forcewake ack to clear.
May 31 05:12:11 gar kernel: i915 :03:00.0: [drm:add_taint_for_CI 
[i915]] CI tainted:0x9 by fw_domains_get_with_fallback+0x20c/0x>
May 31 05:12:15 gar kernel: [drm:fw_domains_get_with_fallback [i915]] 
*ERROR* gt: timed out waiting for forcewake ack to clear.
May 31 05:12:15 gar kernel: i915 :03:00.0: [drm:add_taint_for_CI 
[i915]] CI tainted:0x9 by fw_domains_get_with_fallback+0x20c/0x>
May 31 05:12:16 gar kernel: i915 :03:00.0: [drm] *ERROR* CT: 
Corrupted descriptor head=4294967295 tail=4294967295 status=0xf>
May 31 05:12:27 gar kernel: [drm:fw_domains_get_with_fallback [i915]] 
*ERROR* render: timed out waiting for forcewake ack to clear.
May 31 05:12:27 gar kernel: i915 :03:00.0: [drm:add_taint_for_CI 
[i915]] CI tainted:0x9 by fw_domains_get_with_fallback+0x20c/0x>
May 31 05:12:27 gar kernel: [drm:fw_domains_get_with_fallback [i915]] 
*ERROR* gt: timed out waiting for forcewake ack to clear.
May 31 05:12:27 gar kernel: i915 :03:00.0: [drm:add_taint_for_CI 
[i915]] CI tainted:0x9 by fw_domains_get_with_fallback+0x20c/0x>
May 31 05:12:27 gar kernel: watchdog: BUG: soft lockup - CPU#14 stuck 
for 26s! [kworker/14:2:2123]
May 31 05:12:27 gar kernel: Modules linked in: snd_seq_dummy snd_hrtimer 
snd_seq snd_seq_device nfsv3 nfs_acl rpcsec_gss_krb5 auth_r>
May 31 05:12:27 gar kernel:  intel_uncore wmi_bmof ee1004 pcspkr 
watchdog soundcore intel_vsec serial_multi_instantiate intel_pmc_co>
May 31 05:12:27 gar kernel: CPU: 14 PID: 2123 Comm: kworker/14:2 
Tainted: G U  W  6.1.0-9-amd64 #1  Debian 6.1.27-1
May 31 05:12:27 gar kernel: Hardware name: Micro-Star International Co., 
Ltd. MS-7E02/PRO B760M-P DDR4 (MS-7E02), BIOS 1.00 10/21/20>

May 31 05:12:27 gar kernel: Workqueue: pm pm_runtime_work
May 31 05:12:27 gar kernel: RIP: 0010:pci_mmcfg_read+0xb0/0xe0
May 31 05:12:27 gar kernel: Code: 5d 41 5e 41 5f c3 cc cc cc cc 4c 01 e0 
66 8b 00 0f b7 c0 89 45 00 eb dc 4c 01 e0 8a 00 0f b6 c0 89>

May 31 05:12:27 gar kernel: RSP: 0018:b5ce87b9bcc0 EFLAGS: 0286
May 31 05:12:27 gar kernel: RAX:  RBX: 0040 
RCX: 0ffc
May 31 05:12:27 gar kernel: RDX: 00ff RSI: 0004 
RDI: 
May 31 05:12:27 gar kernel: RBP: b5ce87b9bcfc R08: 0004 
R09: b5ce87b9bcfc
May 31 05:12:27 gar kernel: R10: 0004 R11: b19a70a0 
R12: 0ffc
May 31 05:12:27 gar kernel: R13:  R14: 0004 
R15: 
May 31 05:12:27 gar kernel: FS:  () 
GS:9c641fb8() knlGS:
May 31 05:12:27 gar kernel: CS:  0010 DS:  ES:  CR0: 
80050033
May 31 05:12:27 gar kernel: CR2: 7f78df2005c9 CR3: 00010571e005 
CR4: 00770ee0

May 31 05:12:27 gar kernel: PKRU: 5554
May 31 05:12:27 gar kernel: Call Trace:
May 31 05:12:27 gar kernel:  
May 31 05:12:27 gar kernel:  pci_bus_read_config_dword+0x46/0x80
May 31 05:12:27 gar kernel:  

Re: no pwm

2023-05-30 Thread David Christensen

Replying to me directly is snowballing...


On 5/29/23 20:36, Aleix Piulachs wrote:

mar, 30 may 2023 a las 5:30, David Christensen

On 5/29/23 19:56, Aleix Piulachs wrote:

El El lun, 29 may 2023 a las 9:59, David Christensen

On 5/28/23 19:27, Aleix Piulachs wrote:

i use an hp with bullseye7-386 and it does not support pwm. what can i

use

instead of pwm because it gets very hot



Computer hp compaq 6830s intel pentium dual cpu t3400



Looking at the "HP Compaq 6830s Notebook PC Maintenance and Service
Guide" and the figure "Computer major components" (page 16), it looks
like that laptop has one fan and one heat sink/ heat pipe:

https://support.hp.com/us-en/product/hp-compaq-6830s-notebook-pc/3688712/manuals



The fan runs from windows7 because stays in ram but from bullseye no and
the temperature is over 55 or so degrees



Again, please "Reply to list" instead of replying to me directly.


What do you mean by "because stays in ram"?


Looking at the "Computer Setup User Guide" -> "System Configuration 
menu" -> "Device Configurations" (page 9), I see one option for the fan:


Enable/disable fan always on while connected to an AC outlet
(enabled by default).


Please connect the computer power adapter, verify that the above Setup 
setting is enabled, and test for fan operation with both Windows 7 and 
with Debian 11.



Again, please answer the following questions:

* Under what operating conditions does the processor get hot?

* Have you cleaned the fan, heat sink, and chassis internals with a 
vacuum cleaner?



On 5/29/23 20:47, Aleix Piulachs wrote:

And I can’t find b43/ucode15.fw and
b43-open/ucode15.fw free firmware files either



Searching package directories for "b32":

https://www.debian.org/distrib/packages


I see 3 results:

* b43-fwcutter

* firmware-b43-installer

* firmware-b43legacy-installer


All three are "contrib" packages, which means your need to edit 
/etc/apt/sources.list and add "contrib".  Here is my sources.list FYI:


2023-05-29 20:59:17 dpchrist@taz ~/src/perl/Dpchrist-Lib5/lib/Dpchrist/Lib5
$ cat /etc/apt/sources.list
deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/   bullseye
main contrib non-free
deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/   bullseye-updates
main contrib non-free
deb	http://security.debian.org/debian-security	bullseye-security	main 
contrib non-free

deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian/   bullseye
main contrib non-free
deb-src	http://deb.debian.org/debian/			bullseye-updates	main contrib 
non-free
deb-src	http://security.debian.org/debian-security	bullseye-security 
main contrib non-free



Then run:

# apt-get update


I am unsure which package is correct.  I would try installing 
firmware-b43-installer:


# apt-get install firmware-b43-installer

Then reboot and test.


If that does not work, I would try installing firmware-b43legacy-installer:

# apt-get remove firmware-b43-installer

# apt-get install firmware-b43legacy-installer

Then reboot and test.


David



Re: There appears to be a problem with openbox-menu for my installation from "Official Debian GNU/Linux Live 11.6.0 lxde 2022-12-17T11:46"

2023-05-30 Thread Pierre Tomon
"Susmita/Rajib"  wrote:
> Then there are:
> /etc/xdg/menus/kf5-applications.menu
> /etc/xdg/menus/lxlauncher-applications.menu
> /etc/xdg/menus/lxde-applications.menu
> 
> Then there is also another directory by name
> /etc/xdg/menus/applications-merged with a .menu file
> ~/.config/menus/debian-menu.menu

You can choose the menu layout you prefer.
Run it like this for example:
openbox-menu kf5-applications.menu
By default it's looking for applications.menu with paths set in 
$XDG_CONFIG_DIRS.

To add it to the Openbox menu, edit ~/.config/openbox/menu.xml and replace:

with:


For the questions related to the main menu in LXDE, I don't know.



Re: Isn't KDE Live ISO accompanied by an ultra-light Windows Manager, like OpenBox is with LXDE?

2023-05-30 Thread tomas
On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 05:58:01PM +0100, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote:
>  wrote:

[avoiding pulseaudio...]

> > [1] in spite of stubborn applications: firefox, I'm looking at you.
> 
> Using apulse solves that for me for now :)

You got it :)

Cheers
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Re: Isn't KDE Live ISO accompanied by an ultra-light Windows Manager, like OpenBox is with LXDE?

2023-05-30 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 8:25 AM  wrote:
>
> On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 09:20:47PM +0900, Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희) wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > Also i'm using old things such as old smartphone(s) made by LG, and old
> > book <>, and old Tractor
> > (my day job is farmer in South Korea).
>
> Farmers are the most important people: they feed us. A close second: cooks.

Truckers get my vote for second.

Jeff



Re: Isn't KDE Live ISO accompanied by an ultra-light Windows Manager, like OpenBox is with LXDE?

2023-05-30 Thread debian-user
 wrote:
> On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 02:04:01PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote:
> > to...@tuxteam.de (12023-05-30):  
> > > > > Rajib. In the future, all most GUI desktop(s) will run under
> > > > > Wayland. So i suggest that you have to adapt to change,
> > > > > IMHO.  
> > > I'm still hoping I give up on computers before that happens ;-)  
> > 
> > The most likely is that Freedesktop will introduce something that
> > obsoletes Wayland and something that obsoletes that thing that
> > obsoletes Wayland before the move to Wayland is complete.  
> 
> I think that's called "leapfrogging". Having successfully avoided
> pulseaudio up to now [1], I'm seriously looking into pipewire...

You're braver than I am. Let me/us know how it goes.

> Cheers
> 
> [1] in spite of stubborn applications: firefox, I'm looking at you.

Using apulse solves that for me for now :)



Re : Re: Mise à jour de riot.im (client matrix)

2023-05-30 Thread benoit
Le mardi 30 mai 2023 à 15:31, Sébastien NOBILI  a 
écrit :


> Riot a été renommé en Element il y a quelque temps. Le repo riot.im
> fonctionnait
> toujours jusqu'à récemment. Ce n'est plus le cas aujourd'hui.
> 
> Les instructions pour configurer le nouveau repo sont là :
> 
> https://element.io/download#linux
> 
> Et pour faire le ménage de l'ancien :
> 
> rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/riot-im.list
> /usr/share/keyrings/riot-im-archive-keyring.gpg
> 
> Au cas où tu serais encore sur riot, le nouveau paquet s'appelle
> element-desktop.
> 
> Sébastien


Bonjour,

C'est bien là qu'était mon problème et c'est rentré dans l'ordre en suivant les 
instruction données à l'adresses que tu indiques.

Toutefois j'ai perdu ma clé de chiffrement (pas celle du paquet debian, celle 
de matrix pour le chiffrement des communications de bout à bout).

J'en ai régénéré une nouvelle dans Element : Paramètres -> Sécurité et vie 
privée.

Il me reste un problème et je ne sais pas si c'est important, j'ai ce message 
quand je démarre Element en ligne de commande:

% element-desktop

--8<--
[25043:0530/175357.315171:ERROR:nss_util.cc(357)] After loading Root Certs, 
loaded==false: NSS error code: -8018

Ça doit m'inquiéter ?

Merci d'avance 

--
Benoît



Re: root password of debian live cd?

2023-05-30 Thread Richmond
Timothy M Butterworth  writes:

> On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 2:03 AM hlyg  wrote:
>
>
> On 5/30/23 12:37, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> >
> > This seems to have been discussed like eight years ago:
> >
> >    https://lists.debian.org/debian-live/2015/05/msg00081.html
> >
> > Perhaps it should go into a FAQ.
> >
> > Cheers
>
>
> Thank tomas!
>
> many packages break because of empty password? some other distro
> have no
> password for live cd, they don't break?
>
> i have tried latest deb11 live cd for i386/gnome, live or Live
> aren't
> correct passwords
>
>
> The Live CD has no root password you have to use sudo. 

Someone here suggested using live-config as a command line parameter in
Grub.

https://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=102937

If you are logged in as user you can use:

sudo bash

To get a root command prompt and set the root passwd using

passwd



Re: root password of debian live cd?

2023-05-30 Thread Default User
On Tue, 2023-05-30 at 00:05 -0400, Timothy M Butterworth wrote:
> 
> 
> On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 12:02 AM hlyg  wrote:
> > Thank bw! internet search also shows that live is password, but
> > it's not 
> > correct
> > 
> 
> 
> Live is the password you use with sudo as there is no root password
> set. 
> 
> > i have rebooted,
> > 
> > > probably something like this
> > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_least_privilege
> > > 
> > > .
> > i think they disclaim all responsibilities, they can use empty
> > password, 
> > as some other distro do
> 
> 
> -- 
> ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀
> ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Debian - The universal operating system
> ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://www.debian.org/
> ⠈⠳⣄⠀⠀



I don't mean to clog up this thread with an unnecessary post, but I
just wanted to note that I (unfortunately) have had to use (as recently
as 2023-05-28): 

debian-live-11.7.0-amd64-gnome+nonfree.iso 

a number of times recently, due to flatpak being a corpulent space hog,
obnoxiously trying very hard to fill up my /var partition (10Gb, as
originally set by the Debian installer).  But that is just a side
issue.  

(Note: this is the Gnome Live image that has the non-free extra
drivers, etc., not the  "standard" Debian Live image.  Perhaps the
standard Debian Live image works differently; I never use it.  And
note, this is Debian 11.7 (Bullseye), Debian 12 (Bookworm) may also act
differently.

I can state that in my experience, unequivocally, it boots into a Gnome
DE without any password needed.  If administrative permission is needed
to do something, "sudo " works, without having to enter any
password.  Example:

sudo apt install timeshift


This post is just a FWIW. Feel free to disregard.





Re: Solicito ayuda para instalar Debian en un Acer Aspire 9420 WSMi (casi offtopic)

2023-05-30 Thread Gonzalo Rivero



El 30/5/23 a las 09:28, JavierDebian escribió:



El 30/5/23 a las 07:28, Luis Muñoz Fuente escribió:


El 30/5/23 a las 0:28, JavierDebian escribió:
Para los viejos como yo, no es nada del otro mundo; de sobra hemos 
usado "configure && make && make install"...



usar la orden no tiene nada, pero como falle, ahí está el problema, 
averigua qué hacer para que compile...




Ése es el "chiste": leer toda la documentación, y tener especial 
cuidado con las dependencias. Las eternas dependencias que son un 
problema que ya casi no se nota el GNU/Linux con buenos gestores de 
paquetes. Y que fue el motivo por el cual en el 2005 abandoné Red Hat 
y pasé a Debian. (Fedora y sus "asistentes"...)


Pero algo que proviene de Gentoo eso da dolores de cabeza. Sobre 
todo, con los paquetes dependientes que no se llaman igual. Toca hacer 
arte.


ojo, no proviene de gentoo, está en gentoo (así como está gnome, lxde, 
kde, xfce...) y lo conocí de casualidad revisando la lista de 
escritorios disponibles, de hecho hay una distribución para este 
escritorio (project trident, supongo que ya está abandonada porque el 
sitio da 404).


 Lo bueno de gentoo es que compilar es relativamente mas fácil por las 
dependencias (emerge es como un apt-get pero de código fuente), lo malo 
es que hay que tener mucho tiempo, en especial en pc viejitas como la mía



Ah, sobre todo: NUNCA hacer pruebas en la máquina que usa uno para 
trabajar. Primero, los estropicios en otra máquina; cuando se está 
seguro de lo que se hace y ha resuelto los problemas, y tiene uno todo 
anotado, recién ahí pasar a la principal. Hoy se arma una virtual 
donde no cuesta nada borrar todo y empezar de cero.


+1

si se tienen los recursos de hardware para montar máquinas virtuales o 
contenedores donde romper tranquilo, u otra computadora para este tipo 
de pruebas, mejor hacer las cosas ahí, que rompiendo se aprende.




Re: Mise à jour de riot.im (client matrix)

2023-05-30 Thread Sébastien NOBILI

Bonjour,

Le 2023-05-29 19:49, benoit a écrit :

W: Une erreur s'est produite lors du contrôle de la signature. Le
dépôt n'est pas mis à jour et les fichiers d'index précédents
seront utilisés. Erreur de GPG : https://packages.element.io/debian
default InRelease : Les signatures suivantes ne sont pas valables :
EXPKEYSIG C2850B265AC085BD riot.im [1] packages 
W: Impossible de récupérer
https://packages.riot.im/debian/dists/default/InRelease  Les
signatures suivantes ne sont pas valables : EXPKEYSIG C2850B265AC085BD
riot.im [1] packages W: Le téléchargement de
quelques fichiers d'index a échoué, ils ont été ignorés, ou les
anciens ont été utilisés à la place


Riot a été renommé en Element il y a quelque temps. Le repo riot.im 
fonctionnait

toujours jusqu'à récemment. Ce n'est plus le cas aujourd'hui.

Les instructions pour configurer le nouveau repo sont là :

https://element.io/download#linux

Et pour faire le ménage de l'ancien :

rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/riot-im.list 
/usr/share/keyrings/riot-im-archive-keyring.gpg


Au cas où tu serais encore sur riot, le nouveau paquet s'appelle 
element-desktop.


Sébastien



Re: Solicito ayuda para instalar Debian en un Acer Aspire 9420 WSMi (casi offtopic)

2023-05-30 Thread JavierDebian




El 30/5/23 a las 07:28, Luis Muñoz Fuente escribió:


El 30/5/23 a las 0:28, JavierDebian escribió:
Para los viejos como yo, no es nada del otro mundo; de sobra hemos 
usado "configure && make && make install"...



usar la orden no tiene nada, pero como falle, ahí está el problema, 
averigua qué hacer para que compile...




Ése es el "chiste": leer toda la documentación, y tener especial cuidado 
con las dependencias. Las eternas dependencias que son un problema que 
ya casi no se nota el GNU/Linux con buenos gestores de paquetes. Y que 
fue el motivo por el cual en el 2005 abandoné Red Hat y pasé a Debian. 
(Fedora y sus "asistentes"...)


Pero algo que proviene de Gentoo eso da dolores de cabeza. Sobre 
todo, con los paquetes dependientes que no se llaman igual. Toca hacer arte.


Ah, sobre todo: NUNCA hacer pruebas en la máquina que usa uno para 
trabajar. Primero, los estropicios en otra máquina; cuando se está 
seguro de lo que se hace y ha resuelto los problemas, y tiene uno todo 
anotado, recién ahí pasar a la principal. Hoy se arma una virtual donde 
no cuesta nada borrar todo y empezar de cero.


JAP



Re: Isn't KDE Live ISO accompanied by an ultra-light Windows Manager, like OpenBox is with LXDE?

2023-05-30 Thread tomas
On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 09:20:47PM +0900, Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희) wrote:

[...]

> Also i'm using old things such as old smartphone(s) made by LG, and old
> book <>, and old Tractor
> (my day job is farmer in South Korea).

Farmers are the most important people: they feed us. A close second: cooks.

Cheers
-- 
t


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Re: There appears to be a problem with openbox-menu for my installation from "Official Debian GNU/Linux Live 11.6.0 lxde 2022-12-17T11:46"

2023-05-30 Thread tomas
On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 08:12:28PM +0800, t...@dkinbox.com wrote:
> 
> 
> > Dear Illustrious Leaders and Senior Members of Debian Users ML,
> >
> > Out of intuition, after I extensively gathered information on LXDE and
> > OpenBox, I checked the OpenBox installation from the LXDE ISO,
> > `Official Debian GNU/Linux Live 11.6.0 lxde 2022-12-17T11:46`.
> >
> 
> what's OpenBox in debian world?

sudo apt-get install openbox

Cheers
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Re: Isn't KDE Live ISO accompanied by an ultra-light Windows Manager, like OpenBox is with LXDE?

2023-05-30 Thread tomas
On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 02:04:01PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote:
> to...@tuxteam.de (12023-05-30):
> > > > Rajib. In the future, all most GUI desktop(s) will run under Wayland.
> > > > So i suggest that you have to adapt to change, IMHO.
> > I'm still hoping I give up on computers before that happens ;-)
> 
> The most likely is that Freedesktop will introduce something that
> obsoletes Wayland and something that obsoletes that thing that obsoletes
> Wayland before the move to Wayland is complete.

I think that's called "leapfrogging". Having successfully avoided
pulseaudio up to now [1], I'm seriously looking into pipewire...

Cheers

[1] in spite of stubborn applications: firefox, I'm looking at you.
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Re: Isn't KDE Live ISO accompanied by an ultra-light Windows Manager, like OpenBox is with LXDE?

2023-05-30 Thread 황병희
debian-u...@howorth.org.uk writes:

> Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희)  wrote:
>> > (...)
>> > I have begun to dislike Gnome when it switched over to wayland
>> > desktop environment. I don't like it. (...)  
>> 
>> Rajib. In the future, all most GUI desktop(s) will run under Wayland.
>> So i suggest that you have to adapt to change, IMHO.
>
> It won't be for a considerable time yet, if at all, so there's no need
> to opt for the pain now if he doesn't want.
>

Thanks! You are right.

Also i'm using old things such as old smartphone(s) made by LG, and old
book <>, and old Tractor
(my day job is farmer in South Korea).

By the way, really i like Gnome Desktop ^^^


Sincerely, Byung-Hee

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Re: There appears to be a problem with openbox-menu for my installation from "Official Debian GNU/Linux Live 11.6.0 lxde 2022-12-17T11:46"

2023-05-30 Thread tom



> Dear Illustrious Leaders and Senior Members of Debian Users ML,
>
> Out of intuition, after I extensively gathered information on LXDE and
> OpenBox, I checked the OpenBox installation from the LXDE ISO,
> `Official Debian GNU/Linux Live 11.6.0 lxde 2022-12-17T11:46`.
>

what's OpenBox in debian world?

>


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Re: Isn't KDE Live ISO accompanied by an ultra-light Windows Manager, like OpenBox is with LXDE?

2023-05-30 Thread Nicolas George
to...@tuxteam.de (12023-05-30):
> > > Rajib. In the future, all most GUI desktop(s) will run under Wayland.
> > > So i suggest that you have to adapt to change, IMHO.
> I'm still hoping I give up on computers before that happens ;-)

The most likely is that Freedesktop will introduce something that
obsoletes Wayland and something that obsoletes that thing that obsoletes
Wayland before the move to Wayland is complete.

Regards,

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Re: Isn't KDE Live ISO accompanied by an ultra-light Windows Manager, like OpenBox is with LXDE?

2023-05-30 Thread tomas
On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 12:42:12PM +0100, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote:
> Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희)  wrote:
> > > (...)
> > > I have begun to dislike Gnome when it switched over to wayland
> > > desktop environment. I don't like it. (...)  
> > 
> > Rajib. In the future, all most GUI desktop(s) will run under Wayland.
> > So i suggest that you have to adapt to change, IMHO.
> 
> It won't be for a considerable time yet, if at all, so there's no need
> to opt for the pain now if he doesn't want.

I'm still hoping I give up on computers before that happens ;-)

Cheers
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Re: Isn't KDE Live ISO accompanied by an ultra-light Windows Manager, like OpenBox is with LXDE?

2023-05-30 Thread debian-user
Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희)  wrote:
> > (...)
> > I have begun to dislike Gnome when it switched over to wayland
> > desktop environment. I don't like it. (...)  
> 
> Rajib. In the future, all most GUI desktop(s) will run under Wayland.
> So i suggest that you have to adapt to change, IMHO.

It won't be for a considerable time yet, if at all, so there's no need
to opt for the pain now if he doesn't want.



Re: Solicito ayuda para instalar Debian en un Acer Aspire 9420 WSMi (casi offtopic)

2023-05-30 Thread Luis Muñoz Fuente



El 30/5/23 a las 0:28, JavierDebian escribió:
Para los viejos como yo, no es nada del otro mundo; de sobra hemos usado 
"configure && make && make install"...



usar la orden no tiene nada, pero como falle, ahí está el problema, 
averigua qué hacer para que compile...




Re: There appears to be a problem with openbox-menu for my installation from "Official Debian GNU/Linux Live 11.6.0 lxde 2022-12-17T11:46"

2023-05-30 Thread Susmita/Rajib
From: Pierre Tomon 
Date: Tue, 30 May 2023 09:14:11 +0200
Message-id: <[] 4qvkcn2zj8zmp...@smtp-2-0001.mail.infomaniak.ch>

[   ...   ]
You need an application menu layout.
cp /etc/xdg/menus/lxde-applications.menu ~/.config/menus/applications.menu
[   ...   ]

But Mr. Tomon, what about the menus built at:
/etc/xdg/menus/debian-menu.menu (shortcut leading to)
/var/lib/menu-xdg/menus/debian-menu.menu, with its almost identical
menu file exists at ~/.config/menus/debian-menu.menu.

Except the line: `/var/lib/menu-xdg/applications `

and the line:
/var/lib/menu-xdg/desktop-directories/menu-xdg
replaced by:
~/.local/share/desktop-directories/menu-xdg

It appears as if some menu building application used the template
directory /var/lib/menu-xdg/desktop-directories/menu-xdg to create the
desktop configuration files at
~/.local/share/desktop-directories/menu-xdg

Then there are:
/etc/xdg/menus/kf5-applications.menu
/etc/xdg/menus/lxlauncher-applications.menu
/etc/xdg/menus/lxde-applications.menu

Then there is also another directory by name
/etc/xdg/menus/applications-merged with a .menu file
~/.config/menus/debian-menu.menu

Now what about the complete application .desktop files for individual
programs installed that form the sub-menus, sub-sub-menus and so on
under the main Start Menu of lxde, lying at /usr/share/applications/ ?

There is also another set of .desktop files for individual programs at
/home/rajib/.local/share/applications/menu-xdg

I can't blindly follow commands unless I can have the complete
picture, of what lxde does, before me.



buster docker has issue with bookworm container

2023-05-30 Thread Marc SCHAEFER
Hello,

I had a few issues with building a bookworm container using the
debian:bookworm image (problems with repository signatures and lzma
decompression errors) on a buster docker host.

The buster and bullseye containers seem to work like a charm though.

So I went the bullseye -> upgrade to bookworm path with the Dockerfile
below.  I apply a work-around in the Dockerfile ("fixing" the error with the
cleaning of the apt archives in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/docker-clean), and
it fixed the repository GPG errors (it seems the /etc/apt/sources.list
in the debian:bookworm has direct key references that do not exist/do
not contain the correct keys).

But, the apparently last problem I can't seem to fix is the following:

   dpkg-deb (subprocess): decompressing archive 
'/var/cache/apt/archives/util-linux_2.38.1-5+b1_amd64.deb' (size=1176996) 
member 'control.tar': lzma error: Cannot allocate memory
   tar: This does not look like a tar archive
   tar: Exiting with failure status due to previous errors
   dpkg-deb: error: tar subprocess returned error exit status 2
   dpkg: error processing archive 
/var/cache/apt/archives/util-linux_2.38.1-5+b1_amd64.deb (--unpack): dpkg-deb 
--control subprocess returned error exit status 2
   dpkg-deb (subprocess): decompressing archive 
'/var/cache/apt/archives/util-linux-extra_2.38.1-5+b1_amd64.deb' (size=110520) 
member 'control.tar': lzma error: Cannot allocate memory
   tar: This does not look like a tar archive

This is reproducible, this is not a transient error.

It seems as if libzma does not have enough RAM to do the decompression
here. I found notably an issue with 32 bit address space, but this is
amd64.

Also, the container has no specific limits (it is not better with
docker build -m 100g), and free reports:

   totalusedfree  shared  buff/cache available
Mem: 4024628  940056  208924   16012 3152384 3084572
Swap:7811068   2 7755516

So, is this some libzma config somewhere, or maybe a missing / changed
syscall which makes libzma thinks it does not have enough memory?

If I try to decompress, manually, with ar, then xz the above util-linux
downloaded deb, on a buster and bullseye container and there is no
issue, which seems to exclude a problem with cgroup limitations that I
didn't see.

Do you have maybe any idea (except upgrading the host to bullseye or
bookworm)?

Thank you.


   FROM debian:bullseye
   
   ENV DEBIAN_FRONTEND noninteractive
   
   RUN apt-get update && apt-get -y dist-upgrade \
  && sed -i 's/bullseye/bookworm/g' /etc/apt/sources.list \
  && rm -f /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/docker-clean \
  && apt-get update && apt-get -y upgrade \
  && echo update/upgrade done \
  && apt-get --purge -y autoremove \
  && echo purge done \
  && apt-get -y install procps \
  && free \
  && apt-get -y -u dist-upgrade \
  && echo dist-upgrade done \
  && apt-get install -y openssh-server rsyslog debian-goodies sudo vim 
wget  \
  && echo install done \
  && apt-get clean \
  && echo clean done
   
   # disable klogd
   RUN sed -i 's/^\(module.load="imklog"\)/#\1/' /etc/rsyslog.conf
   
   # remove the privake key, will be generated by ds-admin ssh-base
   # post-conf
   # so that it is different for each VM
   RUN rm /etc/ssh/ssh_host_*
   
   COPY rc.local /etc/rc.local
   RUN chmod 755 /etc/rc.local
   
   # documentation
   EXPOSE 22/tcp
   
   CMD /etc/rc.local && tail -f /dev/null
   
   



Re: packagekit et les mises à jour

2023-05-30 Thread didier gaumet

Le 29/05/2023 à 22:55, Jean-Marc a écrit :


Bizarre, ça.  Quelle version utilises-tu ?


(je viens de passer en Bookworm pour différentes raisons)

didier@hp-notebook14:~$ dpkg -l *dconf* | grep ii
ii  dconf-cli 0.40.0-4 amd64simple 
configuration storage system - utilities
ii  dconf-editor  43.0-1   amd64simple 
configuration storage system - graphical editor
ii  dconf-gsettings-backend:amd64 0.40.0-4 amd64simple 
configuration storage system - GSettings back-end
ii  dconf-service 0.40.0-4 amd64simple 
configuration storage system - D-Bus service
ii  libdconf1:amd64   0.40.0-4 amd64simple 
configuration storage system - runtime library

didier@hp-notebook14:~$ dpkg -l *packagekit* | grep ii
ii  gir1.2-packagekitglib-1.01.2.6-4  amd64GObject 
introspection data for the PackageKit GLib library
ii  gnome-packagekit 43.0-1   amd64Graphical 
distribution neutral package manager for GNOME
ii  gnome-packagekit-common  43.0-1   all  Common data 
files for GNOME PackageKit
ii  gstreamer1.0-packagekit  1.2.6-4  amd64GStreamer 
plugin to install codecs using PackageKit
ii  libpackagekit-glib2-18:amd64 1.2.6-4  amd64Library for 
accessing PackageKit using GLib
ii  packagekit   1.2.6-4  amd64Provides a 
package management service
ii  packagekit-tools 1.2.6-4  amd64Provides 
PackageKit command-line tools




Je viens d'installer dconf-editor 43.0-1 et je vois aussi cette option.



J'ai réinstallé gnome-packagekit mais je ne trouve pas ces options.

La version installée est la 43.0-1.

$ apt policy gnome-packagekit
gnome-packagekit:
   Installé : 43.0-1


À part gnome-packagekit-data, le reste semble être là.

$ dpkg --list gnome-package-updater software-properties-gtk 
gnome-packagekit*

Souhait=inconnU/Installé/suppRimé/Purgé/H=à garder
| 
État=Non/Installé/fichier-Config/dépaqUeté/échec-conFig/H=semi-installé/W=attend-traitement-déclenchements

|/ Err?=(aucune)/besoin Réinstallation (État,Err: majuscule=mauvais)
||/ Nom Version  Architecture Description
+++-===---
ii  gnome-package-updater   43.0-1   amd64    Software package 
updater for GNOME
ii  gnome-packagekit    43.0-1   amd64    Graphical 
distribution neutral package manager for GNOME
ii  gnome-packagekit-common 43.0-1   all  Common data files 
for GNOME PackageKit
un  gnome-packagekit-data     (aucune 
description n'est disponible)
ii  software-properties-gtk 0.99.30-4    all  manage the 
repositories that you install software from (GTK)

[...]
Ah ben là tu as un peut-être un indice:
https://packages.debian.org/search?suite=all=all=any=names=gnome-packagekit-data
gnome-packagekit-data n'est plus dans les dépôts à partir de Bookworm

J'aurais tendance à penser que bien que ton sources.list soit correct 
(vérifier quand même, j'ai oublié d'en parler précédemment, qu'il n'y a 
pas des trucs bizarres dans des fichiers dans /etc/apt/sources.list.d/),
c'est ton dépôt files.eid.belgium.be qui fout la grouille car se 
référant à Bullseye.


A mon avis,
- Soit tu essaies de limiter les dégâts en instaurant des préférences 
(apt_preferences) pour limiter l'emploi de ce dépôt aux paquets 
strictement nécessaires à ton usage, et ça pourrait ne pas suffire
- Soit tu cesses d'utiliser la référence Bullseye pour ce dépôt, vu 
qu'il semble proposer une référence Sid pour ses versions "proposed", 
"candidate" et "continuous":

https://files.eid.belgium.be/debian/dists/proposed/sid/
https://files.eid.belgium.be/debian/dists/candidate/sid/
https://files.eid.belgium.be/debian/dists/continuous/sid/

Je me trompe peut-être, hein, bien sûr :-)

Tiens-nous au courant



Re: There appears to be a problem with openbox-menu for my installation from "Official Debian GNU/Linux Live 11.6.0 lxde 2022-12-17T11:46"

2023-05-30 Thread Pierre Tomon
"Susmita/Rajib"  wrote:
>A package `openbox-menu` was found. Invoked the command on the
>terminal. Output:
>
>`File $XDG_CONFIG_DIRS/applications.menu doesn't exist. Can't create
>menu.`
>
>Any inputs please?
You need an application menu layout.
For example you can do:
cp /etc/xdg/menus/lxde-applications.menu ~/.config/menus/applications.menu



Re: Isn't KDE Live ISO accompanied by an ultra-light Windows Manager, like OpenBox is with LXDE?

2023-05-30 Thread Pierre Tomon
"Susmita/Rajib"  wrote:
> [   ...   ]
>You can have a look at jgmenu: https://packages.debian.org/jgmenu
> [   ...   ]
>
>Thanks. But:
>Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libc6 ( >= 2.34 needed)
The package is only available on testing and unstable, wait a few days
for the Bookworm release.



Re: root password of debian live cd?

2023-05-30 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 2:03 AM hlyg  wrote:

>
> On 5/30/23 12:37, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> >
> > This seems to have been discussed like eight years ago:
> >
> >https://lists.debian.org/debian-live/2015/05/msg00081.html
> >
> > Perhaps it should go into a FAQ.
> >
> > Cheers
>
>
> Thank tomas!
>
> many packages break because of empty password? some other distro have no
> password for live cd, they don't break?
>
> i have tried latest deb11 live cd for i386/gnome, live or Live aren't
> correct passwords
>

The Live CD has no root password you have to use sudo.


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Re: root password of debian live cd?

2023-05-30 Thread hlyg



On 5/30/23 12:37, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:


This seems to have been discussed like eight years ago:

   https://lists.debian.org/debian-live/2015/05/msg00081.html

Perhaps it should go into a FAQ.

Cheers



Thank tomas!

many packages break because of empty password? some other distro have no 
password for live cd, they don't break?


i have tried latest deb11 live cd for i386/gnome, live or Live aren't 
correct passwords