Re: rhs time out error?

2023-11-21 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi,

Karen Lewellen wrote:
> ..ah, typo indeed.
> it should be rsh.

Quite a while ago rsh has been put in the pillory for not encrypting the
connection. The town crier urged everybody to use ssh instead.

Found in the web:

https://fossies.org/linux/alpine/imap/docs/FAQ.txt

  _4.3 How does the c-client library choose which of its several
  mechanisms to use to establish an IMAP connection to the server? I
  noticed that it can connect on port 143, port 993, via rsh, and via
  ssh._
c-client chooses how to establish an IMAP connection via the
following rules:

+ If /ssl is specified, use an SSL connection. Fail otherwise.
+ Else if client is a UNIX system and "ssh server exec
  /etc/rimapd" works, use that
+ Else if /tryssl is specified and an SSL connection works, use
  that.
+ Else if client is a UNIX system and "rsh server exec
  /etc/rimapd" works, use that.
+ Else use a non-SSL connection.

  _7.25 Why is there a long delay in Alpine or any other c-client based
  application call before I get connected to the IMAP server?
  [...]
It must be emphasized that this is a bug in rsh. It is _not_ a
bug in the IMAP toolkit.

The use of rsh can be disabled in any the following ways:

+ You can disable it for this particular session by either:
 o setting an explicit port number in the mailbox name, e.g.
  {imapserver.foo.com:143}INBOX
 o using SSL (the /ssl switch)
+ You can disable rsh globally by setting the rsh timeout value
  to 0 with the call:
   mail_parameters (NIL,SET_RSHTIMEOUT,0);

The instructions "/ssl switch" and
"mail_parameters (NIL,SET_RSHTIMEOUT,0);" riddle me.
There is
  https://ratfactor.com/slackware/alpine-config.html
with lots of explanations. Maybe the desired answers are in there.


I get my mail by POP and send by SMTP. Both via stunnel(8) because GMX
insists in encryption. (Possibly one can meanwhile configure alpine to do
the SSL encryption of SMTP on its own. My POP client runs externally.)
In my ~/.pinrc i see:

  # Sets the format of the command used to open a UNIX remote
  # shell connection.  The default is "%s %s -l %s exec /etc/r%sd"
  # NOTE: the 4 (four) "%s" entries MUST exist in the provided command
  # where the first is for the command's path, the second is for the
  # host to connect to, the third is for the user to connect as, and the
  # fourth is for the connection method (typically "imap")
  rsh-command=

If i'd find a non-empty content there, i'd try whether making it empty
and setting something senseful to ssh-command= and ssh-path= will
avoid the rsh problems.

(The proposed content of that value looks like a sprintf(3) format
 string. Let's hope that alpine applies some checks before using it.)


Have a nice day :)

Thomas



Re: Get running time of child process

2023-11-21 Thread tomas
On Tue, Nov 21, 2023 at 08:47:08PM +0100, Franco Martelli wrote:
> On 21/11/23 at 17:43, Michael Kjörling wrote:
> > > ~$ ps -eo pid,lstart,etime -q 1620,6841
> > >  PID  STARTED ELAPSED
> > > 1620 Mon Nov 20 16:12:47 202323:47:16
> > > 1620 Tue Nov 21 15:59:36 2023   00:28
> > Maybe for that what you want is "tid" not "pid"?
> 
> Wonderful this did the trick:
> 
> ~$ ps -eo tid,lstart,etime -q 1620,6841
> TID  STARTED ELAPSED
>1620 Mon Nov 20 16:12:47 2023  1-01:33:53
>6841 Tue Nov 21 15:59:36 202301:47:05
> 
> I guess TID means Thread IDentifier although in the "ps" man page is not
> explicitly mentioned:

Basically, yes -- although "threads" (Linux light-weight processes) are
the basis of processes, threads and all other similar things). So a
process is just a "thread" with some more baggage (cf. man 2 clone).

Might be confusing if you come from other contexts where threads are
totally separated from processes. In Linux, a process is just a fat
thread.

Cheers
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Re: mpv "some-gif-file.gif" fullscreen and quit, auto exits/kills wayland/ "logs out"

2023-11-21 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 11/22/23, Zenaan Harkness  wrote:
> Ok, I did some more testing on this one:
>
> Does not matter if it's a gif or a video.
>
> What __does__ matter is if the gif or video is zoomed, AND make
> fullscreen, e.g using
...

Fullscreen does not matter. the video/gif can be not full screen, and
Wayland/login can still crash...



Re: mpv "some-gif-file.gif" fullscreen and quit, auto exits/kills wayland/ "logs out"

2023-11-21 Thread Zenaan Harkness
Ok, I did some more testing on this one:

Does not matter if it's a gif or a video.

What __does__ matter is if the gif or video is zoomed, AND make
fullscreen, e.g using

 Alt +
and  Alt -

and "f" for fullscreen, and of course "L" for loop infinitely so the
video or gif keeps playing and doesn't immediately exit.

When the video or gif is zoomed, then when mpv exits, e.g using "q",
then either Wayland crashes or the desktop session auto logs out.

Needless to say, this is annoying.

Found this:

[vo=gpu-next] Video hangs after seek then mpv crashes after CTRL-C
https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/issues/9526

and so:

$ mpv --vo=help
--->> 20231122@11:16:23 <<---
Available video outputs:
  libmpv   render API for libmpv
  gpu  Shader-based GPU Renderer
  gpu-next Video output based on libplacebo
  vdpauVDPAU with X11
  wlshmWayland SHM video output (software scaling)
  xv   X11/Xv
  sdl  SDL 2.0 Renderer
  dmabuf-wayland   Wayland dmabuf video output
  vaapiVA API with X11
  x11  X11 (software scaling)
  null Null video output
  imageWrite video frames to image files
  tct  true-color terminals
  caca libcaca
  drm  Direct Rendering Manager (software scaling)
  sixelterminal graphics using sixels


and testing this (one line):

$ mpv --vo=null --gpu-debug=yes
/usr/share/cups/doc-root/images/wait.gif > mpv-out.log 2>&1

is fine, but no interaction of course, so testing the "gpu-next"
("Video output based on libplacebo" seemingly software rendering)
seemed like a good place to start (again, single line):

$ mpv --vo=gpu-next --gpu-debug=yes
/usr/share/cups/doc-root/images/wait.gif > mpv-out.log 2>&1

and surprisingly, after L(oop), f(ullscreen), zoom (with Alt +), then
q(uit), Wayland hung.


Finally! we have some data. See attached.

I note the first log output line as follows:

[vo/gpu-next/wayland] GNOME's wayland compositor lacks support for the
idle inhibit protocol. This means the screen can blank during
playback.

and I have experienced on occasion, the screen blanking as stated in
that log line above. Also experienced that under Ubunutu.

But, the last line of log/debug within that log output file, is
possibly the hopeful bit:

[vo/gpu-next/libplacebo] gl_fb_query: OpenGL error: GL_INVALID_OPERATION

I only find this when searching:

https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/issues/10324

which says "Ah yeah, that message is from libplacebo. It's harmless
but perhaps scary looking."

but in my case, the "scary" (Wayland or desktop crash/ auto logout/
whatever it is that logs me out of my desktop) is in fact happening.

I also note this:

mpv crash in Ubuntu 22.10
https://askubuntu.com/questions/1447790/mpv-crash-in-ubuntu-22-10

which suggests:

"This fixed it.
$ sudo apt install intel-media-va-driver-non-free
The above will REMOVE intel-media-va-driver
"

and I note that I have the non-free driver installed, not the
intel-media-va-driver (free) driver. Should I perhaps remove the
non-free driver (with all its hardware codec support) and try the
'free' driver?

In any case, if it's the driver, I would like to locate/identify the
bug and file a bug report, so that the non-free driver developers can
look at it, or otherwise file a bug report against the appropriate
(Wayland?) component so that can get fixed. Perhaps I should re-open
the bug above about that GL_INVALID_OPERATION error?

At this point, I'm not sure what's the best thing to do, or how to
solve this problem - I am at my limit of debugging this. If anyone can
suggest a next step I would appreciate that.

Best regards,
Zenaan


On 11/21/23, Zenaan Harkness  wrote:
> Using mpv for media - videos, music and gifs.
>
> Running mpv to view a gif, e.g:
>
> mpv /usr/share/cups/doc-root/images/wait.gif
>
>  - then immediately type "L" to loop (so mpv does not exit too quickly)
>
>  - then type "f" to make mpv full screen
>
>  - then type "q" to quit mpv
>
> this causes wayland to die/ auto "logout" to occur, losing all my
> terms and other apps, and having to log back in.
>
> Any ideas?
>
 (+) Video --vid=1 (gif 16x16 20.000fps)
[vo/gpu-next/wayland] GNOME's wayland compositor lacks support for the idle inhibit protocol. This means the screen can blank during playback.
VO: [gpu-next] 16x16 bgra
[vo/gpu-next/libplacebo] GL: GL_INVALID_OPERATION in glGetFramebufferAttachmentParameteriv(invalid pname GL_FRAMEBUFFER_ATTACHMENT_COMPONENT_TYPE)
[vo/gpu-next/libplacebo]   Backtrace:
[vo/gpu-next/libplacebo] #0  /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libplacebo.so.208(+0x767c1) [0x7fc1db6767c1]
[vo/gpu-next/libplacebo] #1  /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/iris_dri.so(+0x26f6fa) [0x7fc1bda6f6fa]
[vo/gpu-next/libplacebo] #2  /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libplacebo.so.208(pl_opengl_wrap+0x2f2) [0x7fc1db6b8692]
[vo/gpu-next/libplacebo] #3  /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libplacebo.so.208(+0xbbffb) 

Re: rdiff-backup-2.2.2-1 old/new interface

2023-11-21 Thread Nicolas George
Greg (12023-11-21):
> I'm using following command to backup:
> 
> rdiff-backup backup /home/ 'orfeusz::/mnt/backup/home'
> 
> and get the following:
> 
> WARNING: this command line interface is deprecated and will disappear, start
> using the new one as described with '--new --help'.
> 
> Unfortunately I'm unable to translate to the new interface.
> Any suggestions?

Hi.

What have you tried?

Regards,

-- 
  Nicolas George


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rdiff-backup-2.2.2-1 old/new interface

2023-11-21 Thread Greg

Hi there,

I'm using following command to backup:

rdiff-backup backup /home/ 'orfeusz::/mnt/backup/home'

and get the following:

WARNING: this command line interface is deprecated and will disappear, 
start using the new one as described with '--new --help'.


Unfortunately I'm unable to translate to the new interface.
Any suggestions?

Regards
Greg



Re: rhs time out error?

2023-11-21 Thread Nicolas George
Thomas Schmitt (12023-11-21):
> Can it be that "rhs" is a typo and should rather be "rsh" ?

IMAP is the only protocol I know that officially has a
“preauthenticated” mode, where a user can run the server under their own
UID and interact with it through its standard input and output, going
directly into operation mode skipping the authentication phase.

That way, if a client supports it, you can connect to a IMAP server
through SSH and a key, for example.

It is a tragedy that not more authenticated protocols do not support the
same thing.

Regards,

-- 
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Re: rhs time out error?

2023-11-21 Thread Karen Lewellen

..ah, typo indeed.
it should be rsh.
However, it seems that setting is now missing from the alpine 
configuration options available via the s command from the main menu?




On Tue, 21 Nov 2023, Thomas Schmitt wrote:


Hi,

Karen Lewellen wrote:

I cannot find out what rhs means.
Getting an rhs to imap server timeout with one of the new office emails.


Can it be that "rhs" is a typo and should rather be "rsh" ?

The web has old messages which resemble what you describe:

 Subject:
 "[Alpine-info] Why do I get "rsh to IMAP server timed out?"
 https://marc.info/?l=alpine-info=134929183126515=2

 Body:
 "IMAP 17:04:27 5/27 mm_log warning: rsh to IMAP server timed out"
 
https://alpine-alpha.u.washington.narkive.com/LCq961ri/remote-pinerc-and-rsh-timeout


Have a nice day :)

Thomas






Re: rhs time out error?

2023-11-21 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi,

Karen Lewellen wrote:
> I cannot find out what rhs means.
> Getting an rhs to imap server timeout with one of the new office emails.

Can it be that "rhs" is a typo and should rather be "rsh" ?

The web has old messages which resemble what you describe:

  Subject:
  "[Alpine-info] Why do I get "rsh to IMAP server timed out?"
  https://marc.info/?l=alpine-info=134929183126515=2

  Body:
  "IMAP 17:04:27 5/27 mm_log warning: rsh to IMAP server timed out"
  
https://alpine-alpha.u.washington.narkive.com/LCq961ri/remote-pinerc-and-rsh-timeout


Have a nice day :)

Thomas



rhs time out error?

2023-11-21 Thread Karen Lewellen

Hi folks,
Our organization curtain up distribution inc.
www.curtainupdistribution.org
uses alpine as provided by  dreamhost.
Although not showing up everywhere meaning the error must have a fix 
laughs, I cannot find out what rhs means.

Getting an rhs to imap server timeout with one of the new office emails.
What should I seek to fix it?
and yes, I asked on the alpine list too.
Thanks,
Kare




Re: Consulta valor hora

2023-11-21 Thread Fernando Romero
Gracias!

El mar, 21 de nov. de 2023 18:31, JavierDebian <
javier.debian.bb...@gmail.com> escribió:

>
>
> El 21/11/23 a las 17:13, JavierDebian escribió:
> >
> >
> > El 21/11/23 a las 12:59, Fernando Romero escribió:
> >> Hola como están.
> >> Pregunta.. cuanto esta el valor hora de sysadmin en Argentina?
> >> No pregunto el sueldo en relación de dependencia sino el valor hora de
> >> un freelance por ejemplo.
> >>
> >> Saludos
> >
> > Espero te sirva
> >
> > https://www.workana.com/es/freelancers/argentina/linux
> >
> > JAP
>
>
>
> https://www.iprofesional.com/management/378368-sueldo-de-los-profesionales-it-en-argentina-puestos-mejor-pagos
>
> https://www.glassdoor.com.ar/Sueldos/sysadmin-sueldo-SRCH_KO0,8.htm
>
>


Re: Consulta valor hora

2023-11-21 Thread Fernando Romero
Si, muchas gracias

El mar, 21 nov 2023 a las 12:59, Fernando Romero ()
escribió:

> Hola como están.
> Pregunta.. cuanto esta el valor hora de sysadmin en Argentina?
> No pregunto el sueldo en relación de dependencia sino el valor hora de un
> freelance por ejemplo.
>
> Saludos
>


Re: Consulta valor hora

2023-11-21 Thread JavierDebian




El 21/11/23 a las 17:13, JavierDebian escribió:



El 21/11/23 a las 12:59, Fernando Romero escribió:

Hola como están.
Pregunta.. cuanto esta el valor hora de sysadmin en Argentina?
No pregunto el sueldo en relación de dependencia sino el valor hora de 
un freelance por ejemplo.


Saludos


Espero te sirva

https://www.workana.com/es/freelancers/argentina/linux

JAP



https://www.iprofesional.com/management/378368-sueldo-de-los-profesionales-it-en-argentina-puestos-mejor-pagos

https://www.glassdoor.com.ar/Sueldos/sysadmin-sueldo-SRCH_KO0,8.htm



Re: Get running time of child process

2023-11-21 Thread Franco Martelli

On 21/11/23 at 17:43, Michael Kjörling wrote:

~$ ps -eo pid,lstart,etime -q 1620,6841
 PID  STARTED ELAPSED
1620 Mon Nov 20 16:12:47 202323:47:16
1620 Tue Nov 21 15:59:36 2023   00:28

Maybe for that what you want is "tid" not "pid"?


Wonderful this did the trick:

~$ ps -eo tid,lstart,etime -q 1620,6841
TID  STARTED ELAPSED
   1620 Mon Nov 20 16:12:47 2023  1-01:33:53
   6841 Tue Nov 21 15:59:36 202301:47:05

I guess TID means Thread IDentifier although in the "ps" man page is not 
explicitly mentioned:

...
tid TID   the unique number representing a dispatchable 
entity (alias lwp, spid).  This value may also appear as: a process ID 
(pid); a process group ID (pgrp); a session ID for the session leader 
(sid); a thread group ID for the thread group leader (tgid); and a tty 
process group ID for the process group leader (tpgid).

...

I'm wrong? What does it mean?

--
Franco Martelli



Re: Get running time of child process

2023-11-21 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 21 Nov 2023 16:34 +0100, from martelli...@gmail.com (Franco Martelli):
>> $ ps -eo pid,lstart,etime -q 1620,3507
> 
> Thanks it works, but instead of the child PID it is shown the parent PID:
> 
> ~$ ps -eo pid,lstart,etime -q 1620,6841
> PID  STARTED ELAPSED
>1620 Mon Nov 20 16:12:47 202323:47:16
>1620 Tue Nov 21 15:59:36 2023   00:28

Maybe for that what you want is "tid" not "pid"?

-- 
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“Remember when, on the Internet, nobody cared that you were a dog?”



Consulta valor hora

2023-11-21 Thread Fernando Romero
Hola como están.
Pregunta.. cuanto esta el valor hora de sysadmin en Argentina?
No pregunto el sueldo en relación de dependencia sino el valor hora de un
freelance por ejemplo.

Saludos


Re: Get running time of child process

2023-11-21 Thread Franco Martelli

On 20/11/23 at 21:22, Michael Kjörling wrote:

$ ps -eo pid,lstart,etime -q 1620,3507

If that doesn't return anything for the child process, maybe it simply
has exited?


Thanks it works, but instead of the child PID it is shown the parent PID:

~$ ps -eo pid,lstart,etime -q 1620,6841
PID  STARTED ELAPSED
   1620 Mon Nov 20 16:12:47 202323:47:16
   1620 Tue Nov 21 15:59:36 2023   00:28

for me it doesn't matter, it is obvious that the last row refers to the 
child process. Picom forks a new child when its configuration file is 
changed:


~$ touch /home/myuser/.config/picom.conf

now the new Picom's child has PID 6841, thanks again

--
Franco Martelli



AW: Part II dd copy destroyed DVD

2023-11-21 Thread Schwibinger Michael
Good afternoon.
Yes
This is the problem

crippled files.

Thank You.

Regards
Sophie





Von: to...@tuxteam.de
Gesendet: Sonntag, 19. November 2023 06:59
Bis: Timothy M Butterworth
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Betreff: Re: Part II dd copy destroyed DVD

On Sat, Nov 18, 2023 at 10:38:16PM -0500, Timothy M Butterworth wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 18, 2023 at 10:17 PM Max Nikulin  wrote:
>
> > On 18/11/2023 23:35, Marco Moock wrote:
> > > it maybe a stupid DRM?
> >
> > ... or a blank disk because nothing has been written there.
> >
> > AW: Anybody familiar with dd (copy)? Sat, 4 Nov 2023 13:28:16 +
> >
> > https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/as8pr10mb742781d572af09e5dc874f1dc5...@as8pr10mb7427.eurprd10.prod.outlook.com
> > >  I did burn a DVD.
> > > Burning did make a bug.
> >
>
> How big is the iso file? If it is larger than 4.7GB then it will be too
> large to write to disk.

I lost track: does the OP have a crippled file system
like that?

Cheers
--
t


Re: in Debian bookworm /var/log/syslog is empty

2023-11-21 Thread John Covici
OK, here it is:

# /etc/rsyslog.conf configuration file for rsyslog
#
# For more information install rsyslog-doc and see
# /usr/share/doc/rsyslog-doc/html/configuration/index.html


#
 MODULES 
#

module(load="imuxsock") # provides support for local system logging
module(load="imklog")   # provides kernel logging support
#module(load="immark")  # provides --MARK-- message capability

# provides UDP syslog reception
#module(load="imudp")
#input(type="imudp" port="514")

# provides TCP syslog reception
#module(load="imtcp")
#input(type="imtcp" port="514")


###
 GLOBAL DIRECTIVES 
###

#
# Set the default permissions for all log files.
#
$FileOwner root
$FileGroup adm
$FileCreateMode 0640
$DirCreateMode 0755
$Umask 0022

#
# Where to place spool and state files
#
$WorkDirectory /var/spool/rsyslog

#
# Include all config files in /etc/rsyslog.d/
#
$IncludeConfig /etc/rsyslog.d/*.conf


###
 RULES 
###

#
# Log anything besides private authentication messages to a single log file
#
*.*;auth,authpriv.none  -/var/log/syslog

#
# Log commonly used facilities to their own log file
#
auth,authpriv.* /var/log/auth.log
cron.*  -/var/log/cron.log
kern.*  -/var/log/kern.log
mail.*  -/var/log/mail.log
user.*  -/var/log/user.log

#
# Emergencies are sent to everybody logged in.
#
*.emerg :omusrmsg:*

On Tue, 21 Nov 2023 05:17:55 -0500,
Marco Moock wrote:
> 
> Am 21.11.2023 um 05:15:24 Uhr schrieb John Covici:
> 
> > hmmm, I looked at the release notes, but it does not say how to
> > restore the old behavior, it just says many files are no longer
> > necessary and lists them.
> 
> Please post you syslog configuration.

-- 
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How do
you spend it?

 John Covici wb2una
 cov...@ccs.covici.com



Re: in Debian bookworm /var/log/syslog is empty

2023-11-21 Thread Dan Ritter
John Covici wrote: 
> hmmm, I looked at the release notes, but it does not say how to
> restore the old behavior, it just says many files are no longer
> necessary and lists them.  I am using logwatch and that program seems
> to be effected, I would be OK, if I could get logwatch to work
> properly.


rsyslogd.conf controls what logfiles rsyslogd would generate:

*.*   -/var/log/syslog
auth,authpriv.* /var/log/auth.log
cron.* /var/log/cron.log
daemon.*,local7.*   -/var/log/daemon.log
kern.*  -/var/log/kern.log
mail.*  -/var/log/mail.log
user.*  -/var/log/user.log

for example.

Make sure rsyslogd is installed, then read the man page and figure out what you 
want.

-dsr-



Re: in Debian bookworm /var/log/syslog is empty

2023-11-21 Thread fxkl47BF
On Tue, 21 Nov 2023, John Covici wrote:

> hmmm, I looked at the release notes, but it does not say how to
> restore the old behavior, it just says many files are no longer
> necessary and lists them.  I am using logwatch and that program seems
> to be effected, I would be OK, if I could get logwatch to work
> properly.
>


i restored /etc/rsyslogd.conf from bullseye backups
this fixed the bookworm logs screwup and logwatch is ok
debian is just freeware
we have to diddle it sometimes



Re: in Debian bookworm /var/log/syslog is empty

2023-11-21 Thread Christoph Brinkhaus
Am Tue, Nov 21, 2023 at 05:15:24AM -0500 schrieb John Covici:
> hmmm, I looked at the release notes, but it does not say how to
> restore the old behavior, it just says many files are no longer
> necessary and lists them.  I am using logwatch and that program seems
> to be effected, I would be OK, if I could get logwatch to work
> properly.

I have searched a little bit. The question is if rsyslog is really
properly up and running.
https://www.debian.org/releases/bookworm/amd64/release-notes/ch-information.en.html#changes-to-system-logging
https://www.server-world.info/en/note?os=Debian_12=rsyslog
If journalctl does not show any issues related to rsyslog it boils down
to the question raised by Marco.

> 
> On Tue, 21 Nov 2023 04:32:35 -0500,
> Christoph Brinkhaus wrote:
> > 
> > [1  ]
> > Am Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 05:01:50PM -0500 schrieb John Covici:
> > > Hi.  I am using bookworm with latest updates and /var/log/syslog is
> > > empty, even though rsyslog is runniing.  I am also using logwatch and
> > > not getting at least some responses I should get such as fail2ban.
> > > These may be separate problems, but any help on those would be
> > > appreciated.  I saw a previous thread, but it does not seem to apply
> > > to my situation.
> > 
> > Hi John,
> > from Bookworm on the default log system has been changed to the
> > systemd-mechanism only. In the Bookworm release notes is a section about
> > logging. It describes how to re-enable the conventional logging
> > facilities. I hope this pointer is helpful.
> > 
> > > Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
> > > How do
> > > you spend it?
> > > 
> > >  John Covici wb2una
> > >  cov...@ccs.covici.com
> > > 
> > This is a very wise statement. Mine is just a joke in German.
> > 
> > Kind regards,
> > Christoph
> > -- 
> > Ist die Katze gesund
> > schmeckt sie dem Hund.
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> 
> -- 
> Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
> How do
> you spend it?
> 
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Re: in Debian bookworm /var/log/syslog is empty

2023-11-21 Thread Marco Moock
Am 21.11.2023 um 05:15:24 Uhr schrieb John Covici:

> hmmm, I looked at the release notes, but it does not say how to
> restore the old behavior, it just says many files are no longer
> necessary and lists them.

Please post you syslog configuration.



Re: in Debian bookworm /var/log/syslog is empty

2023-11-21 Thread John Covici
hmmm, I looked at the release notes, but it does not say how to
restore the old behavior, it just says many files are no longer
necessary and lists them.  I am using logwatch and that program seems
to be effected, I would be OK, if I could get logwatch to work
properly.

On Tue, 21 Nov 2023 04:32:35 -0500,
Christoph Brinkhaus wrote:
> 
> [1  ]
> Am Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 05:01:50PM -0500 schrieb John Covici:
> > Hi.  I am using bookworm with latest updates and /var/log/syslog is
> > empty, even though rsyslog is runniing.  I am also using logwatch and
> > not getting at least some responses I should get such as fail2ban.
> > These may be separate problems, but any help on those would be
> > appreciated.  I saw a previous thread, but it does not seem to apply
> > to my situation.
> 
> Hi John,
> from Bookworm on the default log system has been changed to the
> systemd-mechanism only. In the Bookworm release notes is a section about
> logging. It describes how to re-enable the conventional logging
> facilities. I hope this pointer is helpful.
> 
> > Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
> > How do
> > you spend it?
> > 
> >  John Covici wb2una
> >  cov...@ccs.covici.com
> > 
> This is a very wise statement. Mine is just a joke in German.
> 
> Kind regards,
> Christoph
> -- 
> Ist die Katze gesund
> schmeckt sie dem Hund.
> [2 signature.asc ]
> Verifying...

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Re: in Debian bookworm /var/log/syslog is empty

2023-11-21 Thread Christoph Brinkhaus
Am Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 05:01:50PM -0500 schrieb John Covici:
> Hi.  I am using bookworm with latest updates and /var/log/syslog is
> empty, even though rsyslog is runniing.  I am also using logwatch and
> not getting at least some responses I should get such as fail2ban.
> These may be separate problems, but any help on those would be
> appreciated.  I saw a previous thread, but it does not seem to apply
> to my situation.

Hi John,
from Bookworm on the default log system has been changed to the
systemd-mechanism only. In the Bookworm release notes is a section about
logging. It describes how to re-enable the conventional logging
facilities. I hope this pointer is helpful.

> Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
> How do
> you spend it?
> 
>  John Covici wb2una
>  cov...@ccs.covici.com
> 
This is a very wise statement. Mine is just a joke in German.

Kind regards,
Christoph
-- 
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schmeckt sie dem Hund.


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Re: no smartd in logwatch

2023-11-21 Thread Marco Moock
Am 20.11.2023 um 21:56:02 Uhr schrieb fxkl4...@protonmail.com:

> export LOGWATCH_LOGFILE_LIST='/var/log/daemon.log '
> 
> it seems my bookworm doesn't have a daemon log

Then tune syslog to create that file or let logwatch use another file
that contains the logs.



Re: [HS] alternative à Signal sous Debian et SANS smartphone

2023-11-21 Thread Jean Bernon
https://www.trucoteca.com/fr/comment-utiliser-le-signal-sans-t%C3%A9l%C3%A9phone/
 

- Mail original - 

> De: "Jean Louis Giraud Desrondiers" 
> À: debian-user-french@lists.debian.org
> Envoyé: Mardi 21 Novembre 2023 08:13:11
> Objet: Re: [HS] alternative à Signal sous Debian et SANS smartphone

> On Mon, 20 Nov 2023 21:12:06 +0100 (CET)
> Jean Bernon  wrote:

> > Il y a des choses intéressantes dans votre échange, mais il y a un
> > truc que je n'arrive pas à comprendre depuis le début. La demande
> > de
> > départ semble être de pouvoir tchater via Signal. Or j'ai installé
> > depuis longtemps le paquet signal-desktop sur mon portable (en
> > utilisant les paquets standards de Bookworm) et je peux échanger
> > des
> > messages et des appels téléphoniques avec mes correspondants
> > Signal.
> > Que veut faire de plus Jean-Louis ? Jean
> >
> je m'aperçois que je n'ai pas bien expliqué le problème : mon amie
> habite dans une résidence en habitat partagé : les autres personnes
> qui
> y habitent utilisent Signal pour communiquer donc dans l'idéal je
> voudrais lui installer Signal sur son ordi portable (car elle n'a
> pas de smartphone) mais jusqu'à présent je n'y suis pas arrivé (et
> c'est pour ça que j'ai lancé le fil "alternative à Signal...").
> Mais je viens de percuter que zbar me permet de flasher un code
> sans avoir de smartphone donc peut-être que du coup je pourrai
> utiliser
> directement signal-desktop ? ou sinon j'utiliserai la manip indiquée
> par Sebastien Nobili avec extrepo.

> --
> Cordialement

> Jean-Louis Giraud-Desrondiers



Re: screen lock shuts down attached HDDs, they don't start up again

2023-11-21 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 21 Nov 2023 14:48 +1100, from zen...@gmail.com (Zenaan Harkness):
> The desktop displays, but my external HDDs have been put to sleep, and
> they do not wake up.
> 
> One of them is zfs. The zfs mounts list shows, but any attempt to
> view/ls a zfs mount, just hangs permanently until a reboot.
> 
> The other drive is an ext4 filesystem, and it has been completely
> un-mounted and the HDD spun down, and it does not spin up again -
> until a reboot.

This doesn't sound right.

Can you run hdparm -C on the affected devices at the time? What is the
result of that?

Do the drives spin back up if you use hdparm -z?

What is the exact kernel version you are running? Please provide both
the package name and exact package version, and the full output from
uname -a.

Assuming that those drives are connected over USB, do they show up in
lsusb output while inaccessible?

Is there anything relevant in dmesg output?

Are you booting the kernel with any command-line parameters? Please
provide the exact contents of /proc/cmdline.

A spun-down drive can take a brief time to spin back up (typically on
the order of a few seconds), but that SHOULD be handled automatically;
clearly something odd is going on in your case if it doesn't.

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