Re: dns?
Sunday, 26 February 2006 23:10, L.V.Gandhi wrote: > I have a system in which router attached to a cable modem rewrites > /etc/resolve.conf whenever connection takes place. To the router 3 or > 4 machines are connected and someitmes a machine with two interfaces > ie eth0 and wlan0 are connected. How to go about caching dns in such > a case? Presumably, you are using DHCP. As I stated earlier in the thread, edit /etc/dhclient.conf. See the man page in section 5. For example, if you want to use your own machine instead of the nameserver provided by the DHCP server, you would use something like: supersede domain-name-servers 127.0.0.1; -- Alex Nordstrom http://lx.n3.net/ Please do not CC me in followups; I am subscribed to debian-user. pgp9SrpZCimtm.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: RE: ...]
Sunday, 26 February 2006 19:31, Magnus Therning wrote: > Are other people receiving emails like the one I've attached after > posting to debian-user? Yes. Well, I was, until I spoke to my friendly mail server admins and had them reject [EMAIL PROTECTED] at SMTP-time. > Is it possible to track down the person who's causing this and tell > him/her to make sure the spamfilter skips postings from debian-user? See: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2006/01/msg00068.html In short: the subscriber causing it is unknown. Someone is forwarding their list mail (not just from Debian; Googling for the Petsupermarket address shows a lot of annoyed mailing lists) to Petsupermarket, and their challenge-response spamming system wipes out all previous headers. Irrespective of their non-subscription status, Petsupermarket and UOL are abusing the network with their practices, and such abuse is rightly reported using Spamcop or similar. Of course, UOL, being the same incompetent ISP which set up the broken system, are unlikely to act on their own spam. As such, you may have more luck referring your complaints to Carlota de Paranaguá Moniz, Head of Investor Relations at [EMAIL PROTECTED] As for convincing Petsupermarket itself to disable the abusive challenge-response system, getting in touch with them via e-mail seems unlikely to succeed. Perhaps one would have more success with one of the other methods they list on their web site, http://www.petsupermarket.com.br/, such as ICQ 147223608, MSN messenger [EMAIL PROTECTED], or Skype petsuper or petsupermarket. -- Alex Nordstrom http://lx.n3.net/ Please do not CC me in followups; I am subscribed to debian-user. pgpf6YZrZaaxN.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: dns?
Sunday, 26 February 2006 15:16, Rylan Vroom wrote: > How do you tell debian to use a local dns server before going > to the ones maintained by my ISP? Edit /etc/resolv.conf if you are not using DHCP or /etc/dhclient.conf if you are. See the man pages in section 5. -- Alex Nordstrom http://lx.n3.net/ Please do not CC me in followups; I am subscribed to debian-user. pgpdXzWSGBbPJ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: gaim login to messenger (msn)
Saturday, 25 February 2006 16:44, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > The problem occur's when I connect to messenger (msn). MSN is a proprietary network (poorly) maintained by a rather large corporation from Redmond in Washington, USA. As such, developers of third-party clients for the network, such as Gaim, are at the mercy of the whims of said corporation. When it decides to change the protocol, connections from clients using an old protocol may or may not be accepted by the network servers. The Gaim developers are forced to figure out how the new (usually undocumented) protocol works and release an updated version of Gaim. > My system is based on debian woody. Woody is the former stable version of Debian. It was replaced in June 2005 by Sarge. You need to upgrade to enjoy more current software and, more importantly, for security reasons. Instructions (for systems based on the Intel x86 architecture or its clones) are available here: http://www.us.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html Note that the only upgrades to Debian Stable (currently "Sarge") between releases are security-related. Therefore, issues like the one described above may occur even if your system is fully updated. The debian-volatile project aims to address this: http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-volatile/ Another solution is to use the Jabber network, which is also supported by Gaim. Some servers on the Jabber network provide gateway services to other networks so that, normally, clients do not need to update when the proprietary half of the network changes. The Jabber protocol is also less likely to change unexpectedly and become backwards-incompatible like the proprietary alternatives. http://www.jabber.org/ -- Alex Nordstrom http://lx.n3.net/ Please do not CC me in followups; I am subscribed to debian-user. pgpkr1qGTeDB3.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Why do I bother?
Saturday, 25 February 2006 17:38, Andrew Cady wrote: > On Sat, Feb 25, 2006 at 04:52:25PM +0800, Alex Nordstrom wrote: > > (CCing you because you request it.) > > Did not. (No bother). From the headers of your messages: Mail-Followup-To: Andrew Cady <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, debian-user@lists.debian.org > > That is not the purpose of this list. > > Nor is this. Discussions regarding the appropriate conduct of the list, whilst secondary to its purpose, are best held in an open manner. The same cannot be said for exercises in haughtiness. You are certainly not the only one to find the OP quite rude. I believe, however, that the best response to rudeness is to rise above the offender and meet him with tolerance. (Before you attempt once again to turn my own arguments against me, I should state that tolerance cannot reasonably be expected to extend to intolerance itself. Hopefully, the distinction between intolerance and rudeness is not too subtle.) Where appropriate, one should point out any rude statements in a calm and direct fashion, explaining why they are considered as such (many new users simply fail to fully realise the scope of the volunteer efforts that make Debian possible). This is much more constructive than meeting hostility with hostility. If one is not capable of a tolerant response (and I can certainly sympathise with this), silence is an acceptable alternative. Any other response will reflect poorly on the Debian and Free software communities. (For reasons why we should care about our image, refer to your next tax statement, web server log, or spam folder.) It was quite obvious by the time you responded that the OP is not subscribed to the list. Furthermore, it is also quite obvious that you responded in bad faith for no other purpose than asserting superiority. As such, it served only to make you feel good whilst wasting the time of over 3,000 other subscribers and denigrating the community. In spite of this, you continually fail to accept that you are in the wrong. As I can understand the frustration of the OP's rudeness, this is a bigger concern than the nature of your initial response. -- Alex Nordstrom http://lx.n3.net/ Please do not CC me in followups; I am subscribed to debian-user. pgphswGbosgr6.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Why do I bother?
(CCing you because you request it.) Saturday, 25 February 2006 15:40, Andrew Cady wrote: > On Sat, Feb 25, 2006 at 02:27:02AM -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote: > > On Saturday 25 February 2006 02:14, Andrew Cady wrote: > > > If reinstalling the OS is the only thing you ever try to fix a > > > problem, then you should be using Windows. Unix is not for you. > > > > Please don't be a troll. > > Trolled is more like it. That is no better. > > What did you gain by a cold statement like that > > -- other than making it clear that you feel superior to him because > > you know *nix and he doesn't know as much as you? > > It felt pretty good. I don't think OP was really looking for help. > If he was, he went about it the wrong way. > > If OP had done anything at all to indicate he was in fact "learning", > or even interested in learning, I wouldn't have responded so. You have failed to address the core question of why you chose to respond at all when the response you had to offer was not constructive. The fact that you feel good when asserting your perceived superiority is not a valid justification. That is not the purpose of this list. -- Alex Nordstrom http://lx.n3.net/ Please do not CC me in followups; I am subscribed to debian-user. pgpkeTnm849Cc.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: MUTT users PLEASE read [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: lists.d.o Spam (was: Marking BTS spam)]
Saturday, 25 February 2006 00:38, Kevin Mark wrote: > Here is a new test system to improve spam reporting in Debian. > It seems mutt users will be the primary ones to use this. Presumably, KMail users should also be able to participate. > - Forwarded message from Cord Beermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - > If you get spam via our lists, BOUNCE[1] it to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] The way to seemingly achieve the same effect in KMail 1.9.1 is to use Message->Forward->Redirect (shortcut: E). I believe older versions had the same feature under Message->Bounce (which seems to be supported by an obviously outdated section of the manual). I'm sure someone will point out if this feature does not meet the requirements of this application. Now, as a question of policy, are the half-dozen daily "unsubscribe" messages from those too illiterate to comprehend a two-line instruction added in caps to every message on the list considered spam? They're certainly unsolicited (nobody wants 'em) bulk (they're bothering everyone on the list) e-mail. What about challenge-response junk, false bounces from misconfigured spamfilters, and out-of-the-office replies? -- Alex Nordstrom http://lx.n3.net/ Please do not CC me in followups; I am subscribed to debian-user. pgphv9ULboaQ2.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Determine order of network interfaces
Information on which version of Debian and which kernel you use would be useful in answering this question. Whether or not you use udev would also be relevant. Thursday, 23 February 2006 19:01, Ketil Froyn wrote: > Specifically, my problem is that the firewire driver suddenly started > using eth1 instead of eth2 yesterday. It hadn't done this before, and > I had to change my interfaces file as a result. The issue is that I > want a normal interface to be on eth1, and I want to be certain that > this never changes again. I have tried to edit /etc/modutils/aliases > and added (near the top) > > alias eth2 eth1394 If you use a 2.6 kernel, the modutils package which provided the /etc/modutils/alias file for 2.4 kernels has, as the package's description states, been superseded by the module-init-tools package. It appears the corresponding file therein is /etc/modprobe.d/aliases. If, however, you use udev, or if using udev is an option for you, it would probably be easiest and most elegant to write a rule for the naming of the different components based on their characteristics (such as MAC address). Here is a good introduction to this approach: http://dev-loki.blogspot.com/2005/12/forcing-network-interface-names.html -- Alex Nordstrom http://lx.n3.net/ Please do not CC me in followups; I am subscribed to debian-user. pgp2j3XIOUIXh.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Where Is the ChangeLog for Packages?
Wednesday, 22 February 2006 10:43, Hal Vaughan wrote: > I'm trying to find the changelog for the kernel-image-2.6.8-2-686 > package. Since packages.debian.org is down, the temporary site > doesn't seem to have this info. I need to see if any changes were > made that effect serial port drivers. Assuming you have the package installed (as it seems from reading your previous posts), you should be able to find this in /usr/share/doc/kernel-image-2.6.8-2-686/changelog.Debian.gz Other documentation which may further identify significant changes for the kernel should also be in that directory. If you do not have it installed, you can use the -d option to aptitude (or equivalent) to download the package. In /var/cache/apt/archives, you will then find the deb file, which is really just an ar archive containing (among other things) a tarball called data.tar.gz, which in turn contains the gzipped changelog. -- Alex Nordstrom http://lx.n3.net/ Please do not CC me in followups; I am subscribed to debian-user. pgpZbnA6fNPpq.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: DHCP address problem after etch upgrade
Tuesday, 21 February 2006 05:18, David Jarvie wrote: > After my latest upgrade this week (I'm running etch), the DHCP > address allocated to my machine has changed from being one allocated > by my DHCP router to being some external address. This results in the > machine on my network not being able to see my machine. > > Previously, the router allocated an address with a subnet mask > 192.168.0.255. Now ifconfig is showing 169.254.106.31, which means > that the other machine, which has address 192.168.0.101 can't see me. The 169.254.0.0/16 is not external addresses, but rather the "link local" block. See http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc3330.html for details. In my own setup with Sid being served DHCP from a router, ifconfig is also reporting an address from this range, but my actual IP address is still in the 192.168.0.0/16 range as allocated by DHCP, and this is reachable from other machines in the network or by the port forwarding rules in the router. I haven't had the time or reason to investigate why this is, but I'm suspecting it might have something to do with zeroconf, which was pulled in by an update just over a month ago (remember, I'm using Sid). If you use ip addr, you should be able to see that both addresses are actually registered to the interface. -- Alex Nordstrom http://lx.n3.net/ Please do not CC me in followups; I am subscribed to debian-user. pgpXM1ZW0BmBA.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Changelog access
Tuesday, 21 February 2006 02:48, Jamie Thompson wrote: > Alex Nordstrom wrote: > > http://pdo.debian.net/ > > Nope, already spotted that one as the url was given in the link on > the packages.debian.org placeholder page. My bad. One thing you can do is to use the -d option to aptitude (or equivalent) to only download your updates without installing them right away. If you then look in /var/cache/apt/archives, you'll find the deb files, which are really just ar archives, which contain (among other things) a tarball called data.tar.gz, which in turn contains changelog.gz, which finally contains the actual changelog. Probably a bit of a roundabout way of doing things, but it works. Having a GUI like Ark might help too. -- Alex Nordstrom http://lx.n3.net/ Please do not CC me in followups; I am subscribed to debian-user. pgpc3Y38W7S4E.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Changelog access
Tuesday, 21 February 2006 02:01, Jamie Thompson wrote: > Whilst packages.debian.org is down, is there any way to get a hold of > the changelogs? All links seem to point back to packages.debian.org, > which makes me nervous before upgrading packages where I don't know > what the changes are... http://pdo.debian.net/ -- Alex Nordstrom http://lx.n3.net/ Please do not CC me in followups; I am subscribed to debian-user. pgpbhHfnYePXP.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: xmms in sid
CCing you since you request off-list replies, but please do not exclude the list in your Reply-To header. Sunday, 19 February 2006 16:32, steef wrote: > Alex Nordstrom wrote: > > Even more puzzling than why one would consider the risk of > > compromising a supposed production system for one minor update to > > the same CVS snapshot is *why* one would even run a program for > > entertainment on a production system in the first place. That's > > what I am curious about. > > *why*? i like listening to *my* music when writing my pieces and > translating *GM-WATCH* into my native tongue and german. *my* jazz is > like a good motor_oil to me. I think our ideas of what constitutes a production system are somewhat different. -- Alex Nordstrom http://lx.n3.net/ Please do not CC me in followups; I am subscribed to debian-user. pgp35DvkX1233.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: unable to make backup link: operation not permitted (was: 2.6.15-1-686 Kernel Wont Upgrade)
Thursday, 16 February 2006 20:49, Leonard Chatagnier wrote: > The pertinent error shown is > "unable to make backup link of > `./usr/share/lintian/overrides/libslang2' before > installing new version: Operation not permitted". Searching The Fine Archives indicates that this may be caused by the file in question being immutable, possibly as a result of intrusion. Use lsattr to check if this is the case, which would be a Bad Thing. It could also be some other issue concerning the file system (buggy Reiser hashing seems to have been a problem at least in the past), so it would help respondents if you could mention what file system is used. > Found one link googling for the lintian/overrides error, > http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?searchmode=file > list&word=libslang2&version=unstable&arch=mips, but the site and > search engine was disabled. You can use http://pdo.debian.net/ whilst waiting for the resurrection of packages.debian.org, but all this particular link would show you is a list of the files included in the libslang2 package in the unstable branch for the Mips architecture. I doubt this is related to the libslang2 package specifically, so a better search for Google seems to be something like: "unable to make backup link" "operation not permitted" site:debian.org -- Alex Nordstrom http://lx.n3.net/ Please do not CC me in followups; I am subscribed to debian-user. pgpVxOHpwCYlz.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Why does aptitude do this?
Sunday, 19 February 2006 13:29, Rob Blomquist wrote: > The following packages are unused and will be REMOVED: > amor eyesapplet fifteenapplet kdetoys kmoon kodo kteatime ktux > kweather kworldclock xmms Those packages are marked as automatically installed, which implies you did not manually install them, but you only wanted them because they fulfilled a dependency. Because nothing else on the system depends on them, they are selected for removal. In most cases, this is a good thing, because it means that, for example, shared libraries used by a single program will be removed when you remove that program or when an updated version of the program no longer depends on it. Having less unused software is good security practice and saves space. For some reason, packages that you do actively want have become marked as automatically installed (perhaps you installed them using something other than aptitude; it is inadvisable to use other package management tools alongside aptitude). You can correct this by issuing: # aptitude unmarkauto amor eyesapplet fifteenapplet kdetoys kmoon kodo \ kteatime ktux kweather kworldclock xmms See "markauto, unmarkauto" in the Command-Line Actions section of man 8 aptitude, and "Managing automatically installed packages" in /usr/share/doc/aptitude/README for more information. > How can I stop that from running? I don't want any packages removed > from my system unless I say so. Twice now I have used the aptitude > GUI, and deleted big chunks of my system that I had to reinstall. From /usr/share/doc/aptitude/README: ... Configuration file format In its basic form, aptitude's configuration file is a list of options and their values. Each line of the file should have the form ``Option Value;'': for instance, the following line in the configuration file sets the option Aptitude::Theme to ``Dselect''. Aptitude::Theme "Dselect"; ... aptitude's configuration is read from the following sources, in order: ... 2. The system configuration file, /etc/apt/apt.conf. ... Option:Aptitude::Delete-Unused Default:true Description: If this option is true, automatically installed packages which are no longer required will be automatically removed. For more information, see the section called ``Managing automatically installed packages''. ... (end) So the answer to your question is to put this in your /etc/apt/apt.conf: Option:Aptitude::Delete-Unused "false"; > Consequently, I am now staying away from that GUI and am running it > from the CL. I personally find that aptitude's GUI is incomprehensible, but that it is far superior to apt-get on the command-line, partly because it does remove unused cruft (but also because the resolver is better). -- Alex Nordstrom http://lx.n3.net/ Please do not CC me in followups; I am subscribed to debian-user. pgpPf6AYtxBIz.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: xmms in sid
Sunday, 19 February 2006 11:16, Nate Bargmann wrote: > * Hugo Vanwoerkom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006 Feb 18 16:21 -0600]: > > steef wrote: > > > want to install the latest xmms, > > Just curious, why? > > Despite the slight version difference, the changelog does show quite > a few fixes and improvements. Not bad for a package no longer > officially in development anymore. While I join you in commending the maintainers for persisting longer than upstream, the only change I see that is not purely cosmetic in essence is the fix to #340019 (correcting the protocol for streaming over HTTP). Even more puzzling than why one would consider the risk of compromising a supposed production system for one minor update to the same CVS snapshot is why one would even run a program for entertainment on a production system in the first place. That's what I am curious about. -- Alex Nordstrom http://lx.n3.net/ Please do not CC me in followups; I am subscribed to debian-user. pgpj3k6cAmIkO.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Whats the difference
Friday, 17 February 2006 17:33, Brent Clark wrote: > linux-image-2.6.15-1-686 > > kernel-image-2.6.8-2-686 > > So I basically would like to know whats the difference (apart from > the version numbers obviously). The description using apt-cache isnt > very helpful. linux-image is the new, kernel-neutral naming convention, reflecting the effort to include Free BSD and Hurd as alternatives to the Linux kernel in Debian. kernel-image is the legacy naming convention (which is the reason only older kernels--because .8 is counterintuitively less than .15--are available under this naming convention). -- Alex Nordstrom http://lx.n3.net/ Please do not CC me in followups; I am subscribed to debian-user. pgpsLehX1KnW1.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: default desktop list?
Thursday, 16 February 2006 14:04, Mark Grieveson wrote: > Is there a list of the packages that are included in the > default desktop install? $ aptitude show desktop-base -- Alex Nordstrom http://lx.n3.net/ Please do not CC me in followups; I am subscribed to debian-user. pgp4yNhh7aOY8.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: gui for apache?
Wednesday, 15 February 2006 15:53, mslinuz wrote: > Mark Grieveson wrote: > > On Sarge, I had a webserver, where I would set stuff up via Webmin. > > Is there a gui for apache that comes with Etch? > > You mean in sarge you can set up apache via webmin ? > Then I believe you can do that with etch too. As you can see on http://pdo.debian.net/webmin (or http://packages.debian.org/webmin normally), Webmin is not in Etch or Sid, and has not been for about a month now. See http://bugs.debian.org/343897 -- Alex Nordstrom http://lx.n3.net/ Please do not CC me in followups; I am subscribed to debian-user. pgpifrqJSoQUu.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Apt-get broken dependencies
Wednesday, 15 February 2006 05:06, Thomas Lenon wrote: > I'm still stuck with apt-get refusing to remove gforge-db-postgresql > and gforge-ldap-openldap because they depend on postgresql which was > removed first. That really should not be an issue. Have you tried to list them for removal all at the same time to make it clear that you would like to remove all of them, i.e. apt-get remove gforge-db-postgresql gforge-ldap-openldap postgresql > even apt-get -f remove doesn't fix the problem because it attempts to > INSTALL postgresql (to solve the dependencies), and installing > postgresql fails because /etc/init.d/postgresql is missing. That's certainly an interesting behaviour. Since you wouldn't be particularly concerned about the integrity of postgresql should you be able to install it (because you'd most likely just remove it right away), you might want to try "touch /etc/init.d/postgresql" and then retry. > At the end of the article cite above, it mentioned re-installing > everything, as a last resort. If I go that route it will be with > another distro, since Debian seems a little tired. You really should not have to reinstall a Debian system, unless you've got yourself in a mess by mixing distributions or included other nonstandard repositories. Things do occasionally get interesting if you run Sid, but I've never run into anything that couldn't be fixed. In my experience, aptitute is a much better tool than apt-get, particularly when there are conflicting dependencies or peculiarities. The resolver will usually offer several different solutions to a problem, and it seems a bit more willing to override the protests of dpkg when it knows it's right (e.g. dpkg protests on installation of a package because an installed package conflicts with it, but aptitude knows the conflicting package is about to be removed). It does tend to work better if you've used it all along, so that it knows which packages have been manually installed. But it might be worth a try in your case. Just ignore the incomprehensible GUI mode and use it as a command-line drop-in replacement for apt-get. If you find that this advice is all a bit general, it might help if you include information on what versions of the packages you have installed (and the versions apt-get is trying to install), which Debian distribution you are running, and which repositories you use. -- Alex Nordstrom http://lx.n3.net/ Please do not CC me in followups; I am subscribed to debian-user. pgpN1GLZ91tJO.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: OpenGL direct rendering
Monday, 13 February 2006 10:06, cga wrote: > But thanks anyway for correcting me re: the r128 driver.. of course > since the OP appears to be using xfree86 I'm not sure why direct > rendering is not enabled out-of-the-box.. Experience tells me that DRI for some of these cards is only enabled at lower than the maximum colour bit depth. One might need to set DefaultDepth to 16 instead of 24 in the Screen section. -- Alex Nordstrom http://lx.n3.net/ Please do not CC me in followups; I am subscribed to debian-user. pgpHQM3OERiLX.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: catch-22 upgrade (FYI)
Sunday, 12 February 2006 12:21, Mark Grieveson wrote: > Thanks for the tips. I did install OpenOffice.org 2.0, and it works > well. My main point was how irritating the udev/kernel image > catch-22 was. I know others have dealt with this quandary too. In my experience, aptitude is quite, eh, apt at resolving that sort of situation, much more so than apt-get. Sometimes, it also helps the resolver in situations like this if you tell it to install both packages at the same time, rather than one after the other. -- Alex Nordstrom http://lx.n3.net/ Please do not CC me in followups; I am subscribed to debian-user. pgpgZMGubxoFP.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: If ATI and nVidia don't support their own products, who does?
Please don't modify your reply-to header to exclude the list. I'm interpreting the header as a wish to be CCed, which I respect; I expect my signature to be treated with the same courtesy. On Sunday, 3 Oct 2004 18:26, Caveman wrote: > Frankly I think nvidia should get a clap on the back for making a > driver. So its not Open Source, well frankly you are never going to > get totally open source. There are always going to be purducts which > are not fully open, but thats something I dont care about if it means > better hardware support. > > I like a lot of people use linux, because its free and its better, > the open source bit come futher down the list. I think you've got that bass ackwards. It is better *because* it is Free, as video drivers would be if they were. To be honest, I have yet to see quality drivers from ATI or Nvidia, even for MS Windows. Now, I'm not sure how well Matrox meets the requirements of the OP in terms of price and 3D game performance. They seem, however, not to be quite as intent on being altogether evil as ATI and Nvidia, and they should be great fun if you like triple-head setups, but I do believe you pay for it as well. This is not based on first-hand experience, but I am seriously considering them for whenever I decide to put together some new hardware. (Not much of a gamer here, though.) -- Alex Nordstrom http://lx.n3.net/ Please do not CC me in followups; I am subscribed to debian-user. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PGP signing (was: First general purpose unmoderated newsgroup for Debian)
On Saturday, 4 Sep 2004 23:02, Svenn Are Bjerkem wrote: > I am asking those who do to stop. But they don't seem to be willing to > listen, or even try to understand the problem they may cause by their > arrogant behaviour. Forgive me for speculating, but do you think there is any chance that might be because you have not given any actual description of the supposed problem? People tend not to comply with requests for a certain conduct when those requests take the form of demands and flames against individuals for practices that are wide-spread. As this fact is blatantly obvious to anyone of average intelligence, I have doubts regarding your motive for telling Paul to "turn off this pgp crap". -- Alex Nordstrom http://lx.n3.net/ Please do not CC me in followups; I am subscribed to debian-user. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Anyone getting debian forged headers in Email?
On Thursday, 2 Sep 2004 02:23, Rthoreau wrote: > You think spammers would know a little bit about the addresses they > forge. But then again what they do makes no sense, I guess that is > what spam filters are for. I just feel bad for Debian in general, > cause someone might be mistaken, and really think it is from Debian. > Or heaven forbid, say a problem arose and Debian decided to email > alerts and people ignored them due to forged headers. I know it in > very unlikely that Debian would do this, but I just despise these > tactics, and the people who are putting Debian in a bad light. Debian does not have a register of its users e-mail addresses. Any such notices would go out on debian-announce and debian-security-announce to those subscribed. I think it would take a lot before people start to ignore messages from particularly the second source. I think it's pretty clear that spammers these days like to use their send lists as a source for forged headers and fake contact addresses. We see that every week here on d-u, some weeks more than others, as people write about cancelling subscriptions to services Debian doesn't provide, being dissatisfied with purchases, or asking to be removed from the send list (and I have a pretty good feeling they are not actually on the d-u send list) -- not to mention the misconfigured mail servers harassing debian-user about mails they got from someone who said their name was debian-user. -- Alex Nordstrom http://lx.n3.net/ Please do not CC me in followups; I am subscribed to debian-user. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: automating sa-learn via cyrus mailbox?
On Sunday, 29 Aug 2004 12:46, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >so why not create a "user.spam" cyrus mailbox, BOUNCE any spams > > >there and have cron do some sort of automated "sa-learn --spam" > > >on the results, and then delete them? > > > > > I've thought about it, but not done any active investigation. > > Problems I see: How much does SA depend on headers for identiying > > spam in learn mode? It uses them in diagnosing spam. > > not forward, bounce. of course, mutt seems like the only client > that has that feature, and my gui-happy clientele will never > use anything so arcane (or so powerful). While KMail does have a bounce feature, it actually does what its name implies and bounces to the apparent sender. However, it also has a feature that sounds like what you speak of, called, appropriately, "redirect to". You can set it up as a filter and add it to the Apply Filter menu with a corresponding shortcut key and/or toolbar button. -- Alex Nordstrom http://lx.n3.net/ Please do not CC me in followups; I am subscribed to debian-user. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt issues with gcc?
Hi Peter, You don't show doing apt-get update, but I assume you do before doing anything else. On Sunday, 29 Aug 2004 07:59, Peter wrote: > spider:~# apt-get clean > spider:~# apt-get install gcc > (Reading database ... 51758 files and directories currently > installed.) Unpacking gcc-3.3 (from > .../gcc-3.3_1%3a3.3.4-6sarge1.1_i386.deb) ... dpkg: error processing > /var/cache/apt/archives/gcc-3.3_1%3a3.3.4-6sarge1.1_i386.deb > (--unpack): trying to overwrite > `/usr/share/doc/gcc-3.3-base/changelog.Debian.gz', which is also in > package gcc-3.3-base So the The GNU C compiler package is trying to overwrite the changelog documentation of the GNU Compiler Collection base package. Had you gone to http://bugs.debian.org and searched for gcc-3.3, you would have found that this bug is reported no less than twelve (12) times: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=268338 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=268473 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=268577 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=268581 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=268629 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=268641 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=268644 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=268645 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=268647 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=268653 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=268700 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=268769 There is also a workaround mentioned in several of the reports. Note that it is generally inadvisable to run testing -- and certainly a mixture of distributions -- unless you know how to use the tools available to you for troubleshooting. You may wish to ensure that you do not get packages from Etch once it replaces Sarge. -- Alex Nordstrom http://lx.n3.net/ Please do not CC me in followups; I am subscribed to debian-user. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Herbst und Winter .
On Saturday, 21 Aug 2004 05:32, Kevin Mark wrote: > I wish someone would create a lib that would attempt to determine the > language and or encoding and then add a note saying: "this message > is not in the default language of this list, it may be spam" The Debian mailing lists leave SpamAssassin's status line in all messages. X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.9 required=4.0 tests=FVGT_m_MULTI_ODD, IMPRONONCABLE_1,NO_REAL_NAME,TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL, UNWANTED_LANGUAGE_BODY Filter on X-Spam-Status contains UNWANTED_LANGUAGE_BODY (where Precedence is list), as I do. I never saw the message in question. (Unfortunately, "unwanted language" seems to mean !English, even on lists like d-u-swedish, but for English-language lists it reduces the noise nicely). -- Alex Nordstrom http://lx.n3.net/ Please do not CC me in followups; I am subscribed to debian-user.
Re: Gimp 2.0.3 losing EXIF data
On Sunday, 25 Jul 2004 00:56, Alex Nordstrom wrote: > Presumably following a recent upgrade, Gimp (2.0.3-1) appears not to save > JPEG files with EXIF data intact. Well, I didn't get any responses, but just a followup note for completeness: the problem is fixed in 2.0.3-2. Glad it was taken care of so quickly! -- Alex Nordstrom http://lx.n3.net/ Please do not CC me in followups; I am subscribed to debian-user. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gimp 2.0.3 losing EXIF data
Presumably following a recent upgrade, Gimp (2.0.3-1) appears not to save JPEG files with EXIF data intact. If I open a JPEG file with EXIF data, make no changes and choose Save as, ensuring that the Save EXIF data Parameter Setting is selected, the EXIF data is no longer there when examining the Meta Info in Konqueror's file Properties dialogue. The expected result would be that the EXIF data would still be there. There is nothing printed to standard error or standard out or any graphical messages; the data is silently lost. I'm tracking Debian unstable with more or less daily upgrades, though lately I've been travelling, and ended up upgrading a bunch of files once I returned to reasonable Internet access. I believe Gimp was among the packages upgraded. Is anyone else seeing this? I can't think of anything that I would have done to cause this behaviour. Should I file a bug report against gimp? Any other information I should supply? -- Alex Nordstrom http://lx.n3.net/ Please do not CC me in followups; I am subscribed to debian-user. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
