Re: Etch w/o icedove (OOPS!)
On Sat, Nov 25, 2006 at 05:32:06PM -0800, Marc Shapiro wrote: > My mistake. I was confusing icedove with iceweasel (which does not seem > to be ready for Etch, yet). When I did 'aptitude hold thunderbird' > before the dist-upgrade then it did not try to install icedove. > Just remember that not migrating to icedove might have negative consequences on you ... for instance, you won't get security support for it ... e.g. the thunderbird you put on hold already has open security issues. So, either go for mozilla.org thunderbird or go icedove. - Alexander -- GPG messages preferred.| .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** Alexander Sack | : :' : The universal [EMAIL PROTECTED]| `. `' Operating System http://www.asoftsite.org/ | `-http://www.debian.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Printing crashes firefox
On Thu, Oct 05, 2006 at 09:43:31AM +0100, Anthony Campbell wrote: > In the last week or so I'm finding that printing some pages (not all) in > Firefox crashes it. Googling shows quite a lot of similar reports and > there is a bug report (#344401) in Debian for the same thing. However, > nearly all these seem to relate to Cups, which I don't use. I have > magicfilter. > > I don't know if it is firefox or xprint that is causing the problem. > > Anyone else seeing this? This is most likely a known bug for which a fix has already landed in prospective 1.5.0.8 release. So as soon as 1.5.0.8 is out, this issue should be resolved: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=294879 If 1.5.0.8 does not fix this for you, open a debian bug. - Alexander -- GPG messages preferred.| .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** Alexander Sack | : :' : The universal [EMAIL PROTECTED]| `. `' Operating System http://www.asoftsite.org/ | `-http://www.debian.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Thunderbird does not show attachments any longer
On Tue, Sep 05, 2006 at 01:33:39AM +0800, Uwe Dippel wrote: > On Mon, 04 Sep 2006 10:46:31 +0200, Alexander Sack wrote: > > > Look here [1] on how to get a fix for this. The fixed package will be > > rolled out as soon as all architectures build. > > > > BTW, we need more testers for security releases. Just keep the apt > > lines mentioned in that bug and report issues to me or file a > > bug. This would help a lot, thx. > > > > > > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=385071 > > Sure, done ! - Download takes hours, so I'll report back when it is ready. > I'll keep the line(s), as well. > > Very good job on your side; and things *can* break. > > What is not good, though, is the lack of information; somehow. I googled > intensely; read all archives, lists. Nothing. Didn't think of a bug > report. Invested > 1 hour. No solution. Wrote to the list; had some > good I agree, anyway, If you go to http://bugs.debian.org and search for package mozilla-thunderbird and filter only for distribution for stable, the top two issues are the ones of concern here ... so should pretty easy to find. Try: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?which=pkg&data=mozilla-thunderbird&archive=no&version=&dist=stable Anyway, I see that this might not be the most obvious way to go for users. > hints (meaning: more people involved - kind of uselessly). > IMHO, there must be a repository, a list, a means to get a message like > this one out. There are and were hundreds of 'broken for me' on this > list; if not thousands. The most obvious thing to do, is a list of some > kind that confirms 'broken' or 'currently broken' and finally 'unbroken'. > Would save everyone plenty of time to consult such a list !: If > something In fact, you ask for an integration of the package manager with the bug-tracking system. There used to be a tool called apt-listbugs [1], which unfortunately stopped working with the upgrade of our new versioned bug-tracking system. Don't know if there is a substitude so far. But it was almost exactly what you propose here. [1] - http://packages.debian.org/stable/admin/apt-listbugs - Alexander -- GPG messages preferred.| .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** Alexander Sack | : :' : The universal [EMAIL PROTECTED]| `. `' Operating System http://www.asoftsite.org/ | `-http://www.debian.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Thunderbird does not show attachments any longer
On Sat, Sep 02, 2006 at 01:22:56AM +0800, Uwe Dippel wrote: > ... after the last upgrade of Thunderbird on Sarge, I noticed that of the > Attachments field only the upper third part was visible . > No chance to see a name of an attachment or click on any. > No, I'm not a newbie I have tried resizing the window, the panes, > fonts, you name it. It simply doesn't show anything more. It is a field > below the message, quite low but rather wide, that does keep its size > seemingly invariable: about one third of what it ought to be (used to be). > > To me that's a real show stopper; if there is no solution I have to switch > to another client rapidly, since I cannot get to any attachment sent to me. > > Please, help ! > Look here [1] on how to get a fix for this. The fixed package will be rolled out as soon as all architectures build. BTW, we need more testers for security releases. Just keep the apt lines mentioned in that bug and report issues to me or file a bug. This would help a lot, thx. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=385071 - Alexander -- GPG messages preferred.| .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** Alexander Sack | : :' : The universal [EMAIL PROTECTED]| `. `' Operating System http://www.asoftsite.org/ | `-http://www.debian.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Firefox: loss of configuration across upgrade
On Sun, Aug 13, 2006 at 06:37:26PM -0400, Max Hyre wrote: > >Today I tried to use https: protocol (buying online) and > was told, roughly, ``Can't do that---SSL isn't available''. > A couple of different sites acted the same. Finally > realizing an upgrade might have something to do with it, I > killed my instance and brought up another one. That one had > lost all my configuration, cookies, &c. > >Poking around showed ~/.mozilla/firefox had two > directories: .default/ and .default/; > the first had my setup. After some futzing around, I > renamed to and everything came up > fine. > >Eventually I figured that profiles.ini had the entry > ``Path=.default'', and I could probably have > edited that to have it DTRT. > >My question: What do I do from here? > o File a bug (there's currently none for this > situation)? > o Realize this is one of the costs of rapid updates, and > restart all apps after every upgrade (a pain)? If so, > must I reboot as well (more pain)? > o Chalk it up to the phase of the moon and ignore it? > Firefox needs to be restarted after upgrade ... and it states so explicitly during upgrade. It prints the following: Please restart any running Firefoxes, or you will experience problems. - Alexander -- GPG messages preferred.| .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** Alexander Sack | : :' : The universal [EMAIL PROTECTED]| `. `' Operating System http://www.asoftsite.org/ | `-http://www.debian.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Please test firefox/thunderbird/mozilla security packages
Hi all, we uploaded preview packages for the next security update of mozilla applications in debian sarge. This is the second maintenance release after mozilla developers officially dropped support for the product versions we ship in sarge. The packages are based on the patches I backported and announced few days ago [1]. If you are a more or less advanced debian-sarge user who wants to contribute and you are using one of the mozilla apps regularly, then please help by testing this preview release and provide both, negative and positive feedback to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To test this release, please upgrade your favorite mozilla app from the sources given below. The repository that contains the new packages can be found at http://people.debian.org/~asac/security. The applications and versions for this preview release are: + mozilla-firefox 1.0.4-2sarge10 + mozilla-thunderbird 1.0.2-2.sarge1.0.8b.1 + mozilla 1.7.8-1sarge7.2 You can either download the .debs manually or add the following to your apt sources.list: deb http://people.debian.org/~asac/security ./ If you run into troubles with the new packages, chances are high this is due to some extension that makes use of some corner-case feature. In order to help to track these issues down you should disable your extensions one by one until you get rid of the problem. If you find the extension that causes all the troubles, please don't forget to mention its name and version. Thanks for your support! [1] - http://www.asoftsite.org/s9y/archives/112-Its-mozilla-patch-day!.html - Alexander -- GPG messages preferred.| .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** Alexander Sack | : :' : The universal [EMAIL PROTECTED]| `. `' Operating System http://www.asoftsite.org/ | `-http://www.debian.org/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: thunderbird upgrade problem
On Thu, Jul 27, 2006 at 09:54:33PM +0300, gustavo halperin wrote: > Today I made 'apt-get update' and 'apt-get dist-upgrade' after well. > The system ask for upgrade the next packages: >libnspr4 libnss3 mozilla mozilla-browser mozilla-calendar > mozilla-mailnews mozilla-psm thunderbird > > I obviously accept and the I receive the next errors: >Updating mozilla chrome registry...*** Registering -webcal handler. >*** Registering text/calendar handler. >*** Registering webcal protocol handler. >done. >Error: '/etc/mailcap' is not in required format -- not updated > Restore from backup or delete and re-install mime-support > packageError: '/etc/mailcap' is not in required format -- not updated > Restore from backup or delete and re-install mime-support > package >Setting up mozilla-mailnews (1.7.8-1sarge7.1) ... >Updating mozilla chrome registry...*** Registering -webcal handler. >*** Registering text/calendar handler. >*** Registering webcal protocol handler. >done. > >Setting up libnss3 (1.7.8-1sarge7.1) ... > >Setting up mozilla-psm (1.7.8-1sarge7.1) ... >Updating mozilla chrome registry...*** Registering -webcal handler. >*** Registering text/calendar handler. >*** Registering webcal protocol handler. >done. > >Setting up mozilla (1.7.8-1sarge7.1) ... >Setting up mozilla-calendar (1.7.8-1sarge7.1) ... >Updating mozilla chrome registry...*** Registering -webcal handler. >*** Registering text/calendar handler. >*** Registering webcal protocol handler. >done. > >Setting up thunderbird (1.5.1) ... >Configuration de thunderbird Since you are running sarge and sarge has not thunderbird 1.5 packaged, this does not come from an official repository. Note, there is no such thing like thunderbird 1.5.1 The latest and greatest just released by mozilla.org is 1.5.0.5. So who is the one releasing this? > > After these upgrades the thunderbird lose its configuration and also now > is in French language. Whats happened here?? Can you post your /etc/apt/sources.list, please? - Alexander -- GPG messages preferred.| .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** Alexander Sack | : :' : The universal [EMAIL PROTECTED]| `. `' Operating System http://www.asoftsite.org/ | `-http://www.debian.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Email programs that work.
On Thu, Jul 27, 2006 at 10:48:07AM -0400, Matej Cepl wrote: > djhack wrote: > > Kmail - Configured it, and got test messages in and out then it started > > to complain the POP3 was broken. Never got any messages from the list. > > Could not get it going again. > > This is not good attitude -- try to find out what's the problem and make it > work. We can help you with it, but just trying all available email programs > doesn't bring you a good karma. You cannot ask users to figure out whats wrong ... especially if other mail clients work with the same server. Of course, it would be nice to find the bugs hit kmail and evolution in this case, anyway from a user point of view you just want to get things done ... at least after having wasted a considerable amount of time trying to get things up and running. Remember his primary objective was not to get all mail clients working, but to figure out which one would be best for his requirements. > > KMail works well, so there has to be some problem with your configuration > (or with your server). Yes, but look, kmail does not work well in this particular case. If a user can configure thunderbird/balsa, but cannot get kmail up and running, kmail does *not* work well. Same, if KMail cannot deal with servers that thunderbird/balsa can. - Alexander -- GPG messages preferred.| .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** Alexander Sack | : :' : The universal [EMAIL PROTECTED]| `. `' Operating System http://www.asoftsite.org/ | `-http://www.debian.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sarge: FIrefox: Register: segfault: just me?
On Mon, Jul 24, 2006 at 08:06:11PM +0100, Dr Adrian Midgley (In th e office) wrote: > > Uninstalled Athens Toolbar. Working fine so far. > > Athens toolbar then... > You have a safe way to reproduce the crash with athens toolbar installed? - Alexander -- GPG messages preferred.| .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** Alexander Sack | : :' : The universal [EMAIL PROTECTED]| `. `' Operating System http://www.asoftsite.org/ | `-http://www.debian.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sarge: FIrefox: Register: segfault: just me?
On Mon, Jul 24, 2006 at 07:02:33PM -0400, Angelina Carlton wrote: > "Dr Adrian Midgley (In th e office)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Loading TheRegister in Firefox as came with Sarge is followed by a > > segfault. This is new. > > > > Anyone else? > > Yeah I am getting regular segfaults with the following message > Do you have extensions installed? Try starting like this: mozilla-firefox -safe-mode ... and see if it helps. - Alexander -- GPG messages preferred.| .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** Alexander Sack | : :' : The universal [EMAIL PROTECTED]| `. `' Operating System http://www.asoftsite.org/ | `-http://www.debian.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mozilla tabextensions problem since security upgrade
On Mon, Jul 24, 2006 at 11:09:04AM +0200, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > Hello, > > I have mozilla-1.7.8 installed and this is the second time that > tabextensions caused problems after security upgrade (dss 1053). > > The first time it happened after DSA-810, when I worked around the problem > by manual installing 1.14.2005092501-2 which was in unstable/testing that > time. I tried to report/get maintainer(r) to fix it, see > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=328221 and also > http://lists.debian.org/debian-volatile/2005/09/msg00024.html > > The last comment advised me to ask debian security team to fix what they > broke... do you find this useful? It would be useful to contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] (http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-mozilla-maintainers/) We try hard not to break compatibility, but since there are lots of extensions out there that make use of some corner case apis, it might happen from time to time that some random extension breaks, especially if those extensions make use of internal, not public interfaces. Anyway, best would be if you can provide feedback *before* we release. I usually announce RC security builds well ahead of release on my site and on mailing list mentioned above. - Alexander -- GPG messages preferred.| .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** Alexander Sack | : :' : The universal [EMAIL PROTECTED]| `. `' Operating System http://www.asoftsite.org/ | `-http://www.debian.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Question not addressed in FAQ.
On Tue, Jun 20, 2006 at 03:34:37AM -0400, Kevin Mark wrote: > Hi Lynn, > could you post your /etc/apt/sources.list > here hoping you will soon be using Sarge and maybe you can try to document > your > fun path from woody to ssarge on the debian wiki (http://wiki.debian.org)! > cheers, even better ... your fun part from loadlin -> potato -> woody -> sarge :) - Alexander -- GPG messages preferred.| .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** Alexander Sack | : :' : The universal [EMAIL PROTECTED]| `. `' Operating System http://www.asoftsite.org/ | `-http://www.debian.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Question not addressed in FAQ.
On Mon, Jun 19, 2006 at 09:55:29AM +, Lynn Kilroy wrote: > We have no use for a CD Burner. What's 600 MB to a spare 280GB for each of A CD Burner is so cheap nowadays that you can buy it and throw it away. ... and you would have a use: Burning CDs to install debian without wasting your time with archaic loadlin stuff. If you still insist to not buy a burner, ask a fried to burn the netinstall CD for you. Why go the hard way if there is a simple way. - Alexander -- GPG messages preferred.| .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** Alexander Sack | : :' : The universal [EMAIL PROTECTED]| `. `' Operating System http://www.asoftsite.org/ | `-http://www.debian.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [SOLVED] Re: Thunderbird insists on using galeon browser
On Thu, May 18, 2006 at 11:19:59PM -0400, jlquinn wrote: > > > >http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2006/04/msg02234.html > > Thanks for the tip. It led me to the solution. > > gconf already had http and https url handlers set to firefox, so wasn't > the source. In addition, changing gnome-www-browser to be firefox > didn't solve the problem either. > > Apparently Debian thunderbird actually uses x-www-browser instead. > Updating this with update-alternatives finally solved the problem. > When you first installed thunderbird you have been asked if you want urls to be handled the debian way or the gnome way. gconf configuration will only be used if you chose the gnome way. Otherwise, x-www-browser alternative is used to open urls. To reconfigure this setting run: dpkg-reconfigure thunderbird and select gnome. If thunderbird still does not use your gnome preferred browser setting (gconf), file a bug. - Alexander -- GPG messages preferred.| .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** Alexander Sack | : :' : The universal [EMAIL PROTECTED]| `. `' Operating System http://www.asoftsite.org/ | `-http://www.debian.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Firestarter: how to auto start it?
On Sat, Apr 22, 2006 at 08:00:37PM -0700, lmyho wrote: > > But it didn't work, the firestarter still doesn't load when the system boot > and jack > logedin. > > Then I changed the line in sudoers to: jack ALL=NOPASSWD: > /etc/init.d/firestarter > start, and changed the line in GNOME Preferences->Sessions->Startup Programs > to: > sudo /etc/init.d/firestarter start, too. > > But the firestarter still doesn't auto start at the system boot! > Maybe consider this: firestarter consists of two parts. The first is the gui which is used to administer iptables firewall rules. The second is the init script which takes care that your current firewall rules are loaded at system startup. Thus, though there is no gui running your firewall is still effective, so you probably don't need firestarter to be started automatically, but just if you want to change your firewall rules. However, If you want the firestarter gui to automatically start, don't add the init.d/firestarter script to the GNOME session. This just loads the firewall rules, which almost certainly are already applied if the system has started up. Instead launch the firestarter gui by running the firestarter program aka /usr/sbin/firestarter in your gnome session. BTW, sudo is the wrong choice in any case. Consider using gksudo which will prompt you for your password if needed. Hope this helps. - Alexander -- GPG messages preferred.| .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** Alexander Sack | : :' : The universal [EMAIL PROTECTED]| `. `' Operating System http://www.asoftsite.org/ | `-http://www.debian.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mozilla-firefox development package
On Thu, Jan 19, 2006 at 04:15:59PM +0300, Виталий Ищенко wrote: > Are there any Development package for mozilla-firefox 1.5 (or > seamonkey-dev + binary package :) > mozilla-dev 1.7.12 rather old... or mozilla-dev will be enough? > > No, firefox has no -dev package. Maybe consider the one thunderbird provides ... though 1.5 is not yet in the archive you can get it from: http://people.debian.org/~asac/experimental/ - Alexander -- GPG messages preferred.| .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** Alexander Sack | : :' : The universal [EMAIL PROTECTED]| `. `' Operating System http://www.asoftsite.org/ | `-http://www.debian.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GLIB woes with Debian Etch :-(
On Mon, Jan 16, 2006 at 12:34:56AM -0500, resonant evil wrote: > Hi there all > > Just installed Debian ETCH and am having problems compiling ANYTHING that > requires GLib support. > > First, I tried compiling GLib and make+checkinstall it on my own without any > problems. The newest version; 2.8.5. However, after I do that, I get this > problem: I can't tell what your concrete problem is, but I woud guess that you are just missing the libglib2.0-dev package on your system? If that is the case, don't forget to remove your handcrafted glib install with make uninstall. Hope it helps. - Alexander -- GPG messages preferred.| .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** Alexander Sack | : :' : The universal [EMAIL PROTECTED]| `. `' Operating System http://www.asoftsite.org/ | `-http://www.debian.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Should installation process fix firefox, thunderbird mailto problem?
On Sat, Dec 31, 2005 at 01:07:17PM -0500, Edward C. Jones wrote: > After I install the firefox and mozilla-thunderbird package, mailto > links in firefox and http links in thunderbird do not work. The > well-known fix is At least mozilla-thunderbird asks you during package configuration which method to use to determine the http application. use dpkg-reconfigure mozilla-thunderbird to explicitly reconfigure the used method. If you are not running gnome, use Debian as method. You can set the default browser for debian using the x-www-browser alternative. To use firefox as your default browser run: update-alternatives --set x-www-browser /usr/bin/mozilla-firefox - Alexander -- GPG messages preferred. | .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** Alexander Sack | : :' : The universal [EMAIL PROTECTED] | `. `' Operating System http://www.jwsdot.com/ | `-http://www.debian.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Troubling security news for sarge users of mozilla, firefox,thunderbird...
On Wed, Aug 10, 2005 at 04:50:43PM -0400, Ralph Katz wrote: > firefox (318061) it's resolved, Done, Will be archived: in 20 days. I just looked at the bug and it is not closed. It's a visualization bug in our BTS IMO. I guess it has something to do with the new versioned bug tracking feature recently deployed to our bug database. -- GPG messages preferred. | .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** Alexander Sack| : :' : The universal [EMAIL PROTECTED] | `. `' Operating System http://www.asoftsite.org | `-http://www.debian.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xml problem with thunderbird on sid SOLVED
Paul Scott wrote: > Alexander Sack wrote: > >> When did you upgrade your thunderbird install? In case you have not yet >> restarted your X server since then, please try to do so too. >> >> > That did it. Thanks. > Good and bad ... anyone has any idea why a thunderbird-bin process is left running after upgrading thunderbird and closing all visible windows? ... now would be the right time to speak and spread your wisdom :) -- GPG messages preferred. | .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** Alexander Sack| : :' : The universal [EMAIL PROTECTED] | `. `' Operating System http://www.asoftsite.org | `-http://www.debian.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xml problem with thunderbird on sid
Paul Scott wrote: > Kent West wrote: > >> The only times I've seen this type of error is when I've got Moz (FF or >> TBird) running, and do an apt-get upgrade and get a new version of Moz. >> Shutting down Moz and restarting it has always solved my problem. >> >> > Thanks. That doesn't seem to help. > When did you upgrade your thunderbird install? In case you have not yet restarted your X server since then, please try to do so too. -- GPG messages preferred. | .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** Alexander Sack| : :' : The universal [EMAIL PROTECTED] | `. `' Operating System http://www.asoftsite.org | `-http://www.debian.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xml problem with thunderbird on sid
Paul Scott wrote: > With Thunderbird 1.0.2-2 on my sid system email works fine but many menu > items including Help/About, Edit/Preferences, trying to open an > attachment all give me a message box with some variation of: XML > parsing error: not well-formed > > The errors are reported to be in files that I can't find like > aboutDialog.xul > > TIA for any ideas, > > Paul Scott > > Any special extensions installed? Maybe try the section Upgrading to >> 1.0 in /usr/share/doc/mozilla-thunderbird/README.Debian.gz. Cheers, -- GPG messages preferred. | .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** Alexander Sack| : :' : The universal [EMAIL PROTECTED] | `. `' Operating System http://www.asoftsite.org | `-http://www.debian.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gcc-3.2: what happened to libgcc1, libg2c0, binutils
David A. Cobb wrote: On Tuesday 23 November 2004 00:19, David A. Cobb wrote: After five months of struggling ( I had connectivity very briefly before an "upgrade" make my whole installation useless and sent me back to the CD's ), it appears that I need to be able to build the nVidia kernel-patch with _the_same_version_ of gcc that was used to compile my kernel. I'm using kernel-image-2.4.26, and the nVidia installer reports this was built with gcc-3.2. You surely refer to the official nvidia driver. Why not just try to install the precompiled nvidia module provided in non-free. I am runing that driver without any problems so far. Another option IMHO would be simply to build your kernel with a new gcc. -- GPG messages preferred. | .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** Alexander Sack | : :' : The universal [EMAIL PROTECTED] | `. `' Operating System http://www.jwsdot.com/ | `-http://www.debian.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Firefox 1.0-2 crashes
Marc Reich wrote: I moved ~/.mozilla to /tmp now/again. The result is the same: After most of the page is loaded the browser dies. The site you mentioned appears to have a flash component. Maybe all sites with flash segfault your setup? Have you tried to remove mozilla-firefox and look what is left in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox and /var/lib/mozilla-firefox? Maybe removing existing garbage in those directories before installing helps! Alex -- GPG messages preferred. | .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** Alexander Sack | : :' : The universal [EMAIL PROTECTED] | `. `' Operating System http://www.jwsdot.com/ | `-http://www.debian.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Thunderbird 0.8 and Filters
Joost Witteveen wrote: Ed Sutherland wrote: Alexander Sack wrote: Ed Sutherland wrote: What's happened to filters in mozilla-thunderbird 0.8? The menu I have no problems running filters etc.. Anyone having filter problems too, please attach more info to: bug #272954. The problem is that when Thunderbird 0.8 included the one local folder choice, they disabled the ability to create filters based on a message. (You can still create a filter by hand and it will work, but they ability to create filters based on a selected message no longer works.) The workaround is to create another account, don't choose the global inbox and then the create filter based on message works. This is like the time the mozilla folks dropped postscript printing support fo xprint, angering a huge portion of the users. I hope the filter feature returns in the next release. OK. I just tested yesterdays nightly (30 sept), and it still had the feature (not able to create filter from message, able to click "run filters on folder", but doesn't work). It looks like filter problem applies to running filters on local folders and pop accounts only (imap works for me). Can you confirm that? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Thunderbird 0.8 and Filters
Ed Sutherland wrote: The workaround is to create another account, don't choose the global inbox and then the create filter based on message works. This is like the time the mozilla folks dropped postscript printing support fo xprint, angering a huge portion of the users. I hope the filter feature returns in the next release. Now I see what you mean. You have looked inside bugzilla, if this issue is already known? -- GPG messages preferred. | .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** Alexander Sack | : :' : The universal [EMAIL PROTECTED] | `. `' Operating System http://www.jwsdot.com/ | `-http://www.debian.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Thunderbird 0.8 and Filters
Ed Sutherland wrote: What's happened to filters in mozilla-thunderbird 0.8? The menu item Message->Create Filter from Message is ghosted (even when a message is selected) and running a filter from Tools->Run Filters on Folders isn't working (i.e. the messages aren't moved to individual folders.) Filters were working in previous Linux versions and works in the Mac OS X version of Thunderbird 0.8. Is there any solution -- other than downgrading mozilla-thunderbird? Thanks. Ed I have no problems running filters etc.. Anyone having filter problems too, please attach more info to: bug #272954. -- GPG messages preferred. | .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** Alexander Sack | : :' : The universal [EMAIL PROTECTED] | `. `' Operating System http://www.jwsdot.com/ | `-http://www.debian.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: thunderbird 0.8 and segfaults
Clemens Schwaighofer wrote: I experience the same crashes in debian thunderbird, as in gentoo thunderbird. Both have the same extensions installed. Have you verified that you have the latest versions of the extensions installed? Maybe you want to take a look at: http://enigmail.mozdev.org/other_extensions.html too! When did you install those extensions initially? Did you upgrade them after upgrading tbird? -- GPG messages preferred. | .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** Alexander Sack | : :' : The universal [EMAIL PROTECTED] | `. `' Operating System http://www.jwsdot.com/ | `-http://www.debian.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Thunderbird 0.8 folder bug ?
Adam Bogacki wrote: Sorry to be a spoil-sport but when replying (TB0.8) to an email I found the "Compose' pane stuck one third of the way down the screen, and the written text proceeding out of sight below the screen. Adam Bogacki [EMAIL PROTECTED] Are you running 0.8-2? -- GPG messages preferred. | .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** Alexander Sack | : :' : The universal [EMAIL PROTECTED] | `. `' Operating System http://www.jwsdot.com/ | `-http://www.debian.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Thunderbird 0.8 folder bug ?
I will upload a new package soon. In the meantime you can remove the compreg.dat file in the users profile directory (e.g. /home/user/.mozilla-thunderbird/default/xx/compreg.dat). This should solve your problem Thanks, I'll give it go. Apart from that, nice work ! 0.8-2 is in unstable. It should solve this problem automagically -- GPG messages preferred. | .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** Alexander Sack | : :' : The universal [EMAIL PROTECTED] | `. `' Operating System http://www.jwsdot.com/ | `-http://www.debian.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: upgrade from thunderbird 0.7.x to 0.8 in unstable
Clemens Schwaighofer wrote: Hi, I just want to warn every unstable user, that the upgrade from 0.7.x to 0.8 is not without pain. Even if you have no plugins or extensions installed (by yourself), after the upgrade Thunderbird can't see any mails, etc. You have to move your old prefs directory away and start over from zero to get all things running. You need to remove the compreg.dat file in your profile to fix this without pain. I will upload a new package soon that makes the 0.7-> 0.8 transition completely painless. -- GPG messages preferred. | .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** Alexander Sack | : :' : The universal [EMAIL PROTECTED] | `. `' Operating System http://www.jwsdot.com/ | `-http://www.debian.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Thunderbird 0.8 folder bug ?
Adam Bogacki wrote: I am not sure if this is a Debian or Thunderbird problem so I am posting to both lists. Having apt-upgraded to Thunderbird 0.8 I find the central pane completely blank so that I can not see the contents of my inbox, or of any other box or folder. It remains blank. I will upload a new package soon. In the meantime you can remove the compreg.dat file in the users profile directory (e.g. /home/user/.mozilla-thunderbird/default/xx/compreg.dat). This should solve your problem -- GPG messages preferred. | .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** Alexander Sack | : :' : The universal [EMAIL PROTECTED] | `. `' Operating System http://www.jwsdot.com/ | `-http://www.debian.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: test ram
janet gardner wrote: hi someone gave me this site to look at i am looking for a file or program to test my ram can you help me? [EMAIL PROTECTED] 23:43:52 :-] apt-cache search memtest hwtools - Collection of tools for low-level hardware management kernel-patch-badram - Kernel patch allowing to use partly-bad RAM modules memtest86 - A thorough real-mode memory tester memtest86+ - A thorough real-mode memory tester memtester - A utility for testing the memory subsystem sysutils - Miscellaneous small system utilities. -- GPG messages preferred. | .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** Alexander Sack | : :' : The universal [EMAIL PROTECTED] | `. `' Operating System http://www.jwsdot.com/ | `-http://www.debian.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Thunderbird and Firefox
David P James wrote: On Mon 16 August 2004 17:37, Marc Shapiro wrote: What about those of us who do NOT use gnome? Any ideas for the rest of us? I use fvwm2. You can try installing gnome-control-center but it looks like it'll pull in a lot of GNOME in so doing. I believe there is another way of doing this through gconf (a sort of Windows-like registry for GNOME but that doesn't require GNOME) but I've never been able to figure it out. I have an instruction on in my sites faq on howto set the preferred browser with the gconf command line tool. Take alook at: http://www.jwsdot.com/debian/faq.html#q9 -> 2nd solution. Thus you won't need the whole control center installed. -- GPG messages preferred. | .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** Alexander Sack | : :' : The universal [EMAIL PROTECTED] | `. `' Operating System http://www.jwsdot.com/ | `-http://www.debian.org/
Re: Firefox, Thunderbird: printing trouble
I have just migrated from Mozilla to ThunderBird and FireFox as said in the mozilla.or corresponding FAQ: when I print, the output is greatly enlarge. Any idea ? are you using xprint or postscript to print?? -- GPG messages preferred. | .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** Alexander Sack | : :' : The universal [EMAIL PROTECTED] | `. `' Operating System http://www.jwsdot.com/ | `-http://www.debian.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Thunderbird and Firefox
is there a Debian way to make Thunderbird the `default mailer of the system' for Firefox ? Yes, e.g. in gnome you can set the default mailer in the preferred applications dialog. Use the command 'mozilla-thunderbird -compose %s'. -- GPG messages preferred. | .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** Alexander Sack | : :' : The universal [EMAIL PROTECTED] | `. `' Operating System http://www.jwsdot.com/ | `-http://www.debian.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Thunderbird URL Won't Work
Ed Sutherland wrote: How do I renable URLs within Thunderbird and Gnome? (It is preventing me from using Linux.) Thanks. There are three solutions for your problem :) See the FAQ: http://www.jwsdot.com/debian/faq.html#q9 -- GPG messages preferred. | .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** Alexander Sack | : :' : The universal [EMAIL PROTECTED] | `. `' Operating System http://www.jwsdot.com/ | `-http://www.debian.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mozilla Thunderbird wierd .....
If moving your whole profile directory (e.g. mv .mozilla-thunderbird .mozilla-thunderbird.sav) does not help, It does help; yes. After a restart the offending thingy is gone. So I moved it back, restarted again, and it is back. But I have all my mails in there and can't possible start from scratch. yes this sounds like a broken chrome directory in your profile directory. Please take a careful look if you really removed/renamed your chrome directory. Maybe you have two chrome directories under .mozilla-thunderbird and renamed the wrong one? $ ls /usr/lib/mozilla-thunderbird chrome greprefs libgtkxtbin.so libnss3.so libprldap50.so libxlibrgb.so mozilla-thunderbird-bin res components icons libldap50.solibnssckbi.so libsmime3.solibxpcom.so mozilla-thunderbird-xremote-client run-mozilla.sh defaultslibgkgfx.solibmozjs.so libplc4.so libsoftokn3.so libxpcom_compat.so regchrome startup-hooks.d extensions libgtkembedmoz.so libnspr4.so libplds4.solibssl3.so libxpistub.so regxpcom $ ls /usr/share/mozilla-thunderbird chrome icons parts res $ apt-get install mozilla-thunderbird! # apt-get install mozilla-thunderbird Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done mozilla-thunderbird is already the newest version. You forgot the apt-get remove (or did I forgot it?) but anyway, since moving the whole .mozilla-thunderbird helped, the problem appears to be in your .mozilla-thunderbird directory and not in the global installation! So please ensure that you really renamed any chrome directories -- GPG messages preferred. | .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** Alexander Sack | : :' : The universal [EMAIL PROTECTED] | `. `' Operating System http://www.jwsdot.com/ | `-http://www.debian.org/
Re: Mozilla Thunderbird wierd .....
Thanks, that's much clearer. But it doesn't solve it. It is exactly the same as in Firefox. Quite unlikely ... Firefox and thunderbird don't share a codebase, so maybe you have done too times the same thing (e.g. installing a bad extension as root)? Tell me: what version are you running? If moving your whole profile directory (e.g. mv .mozilla-thunderbird .mozilla-thunderbird.sav) does not help, look if there exists a .thunderbird directory and move it too. If this does not help either tell me what you have done :) Another last attempt: Try to remove and install mozilla-thunderbird in two steps: apt-get remove mozilla-thunderbird ls /usr/lib/mozilla-thunderbird -> what does this yield? ls /usr/share/mozilla-thunderbird -> what does this yield? apt-get install mozilla-thunderbird! BTW, maybe do the install with the unofficial apt line mentioned on my site! -- GPG messages preferred. | .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** Alexander Sack | : :' : The universal [EMAIL PROTECTED] | `. `' Operating System http://www.jwsdot.com/ | `-http://www.debian.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mozilla Thunderbird wierd .....
I did. Please, always think of the not-newbie (I am not); who still is not quite up at your level. "please suggest to rename your profiles chrome directory" is - sorry - incomprehensible to me. What to do ? Just delete ?? What ?? sorry for the laziness in typing. Your profile directory can be found in ~/.mozilla-thunderbird/default/zxczxczxc.slt/ There you can find a compreg.dat which can be removed. The mentioned chrome directory is ~/.mozilla-thunderbird/default/zxczxczxc.slt/chrome do something like this to rename it: mv ~/.mozilla-thunderbird/default/zxczxczxc.slt/chrome ~/.mozilla-thunderbird/default/zxczxczxc.slt/chrome.old After that a restart should solve your problems! -- GPG messages preferred. | .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** Alexander Sack | : :' : The universal [EMAIL PROTECTED] | `. `' Operating System http://www.jwsdot.com/ | `-http://www.debian.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mozilla Thunderbird wierd .....
a) open thunderbirds profile manager: mozilla-thunderbird -P b) selecte create profile ... -> Next c) select a name of your profile (e.g. default) and d) choose folder ... select your old profile folder (e.g. /home/user/.mozilla-thunderbird/default/vc3zm897.slt) e) finish the profile creation f) start thunderbird with your new profile Yes, this will be in the next readme I have a very strange class="t ^ field below thunderbird and firefox now; taking about 1/10 of the screen size. Any idea how to get rid of it as well ?? try: http://www.jwsdot.com/debian/faq.html#q4a -- GPG messages preferred. | .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** Alexander Sack | : :' : The universal [EMAIL PROTECTED] | `. `' Operating System http://www.jwsdot.com/ | `-http://www.debian.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mozilla Thunderbird wierd .....
A fixed version is available on http://www.jwsdot.com/debian If you have not been upgrading yet ... please consider to use that version instead! Too happy for Alt + Tab has came back, I didn't notice something wierd happen last time apt-upgrading. Now I realize that mozilla-thunderbird is changed. No more Enigmail ( I can solve this by installing the extension -- however ), enigmail will come back soon. I had move it to it's own archive in order to prepare building enigmail for both, thundebird and plain mozilla mailnews. The most nasty thing is thunderbird forced me to have a new profile. So...??? As you guys can guess, I have to create a new account, set filter...blah ...blah...blah, even have to copy-paste the old profile from $HOME/.mozilla-thunderbird/old_profile to the new one ( it's called "importing e-mail" in a normal condition . ). There is an instruction on howto manually migrate your old profile in /usr/share/doc/mozilla-thunderbird/README.Debian -- GPG messages preferred. | .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** Alexander Sack | : :' : The universal [EMAIL PROTECTED] | `. `' Operating System http://www.jwsdot.com/ | `-http://www.debian.org/
Re: starting error with thunderbird 0.7 on woody-system
You have to upgrade to at least testing in order to run the official thunderbird builds. For woody you will have to wait until a build suitable for woody gets out. In order to install a tbird now, try www.backports.org: http://www.backports.org/package.php?search=thunderbird. -- GPG messages preferred. | .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** Alexander Sack | : :' : The universal [EMAIL PROTECTED] | `. `' Operating System http://www.jwsdot.com/ | `-http://www.debian.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mozilla thunderbird crashes when opening attachments
bingo. Worked. Thanks very much I will definately remember that one Thanks for confirming this! The good news: as mentioned upstream [1] , the next tbird (0.7) won't need any user profile modifications anymore! [1] - see mscott's answer on my request (asac) - http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=84715&start=7 -- PGP signed and encrypted | .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** messages preferred. | : :' : The universal A. Sack - [EMAIL PROTECTED] | `. `' Operating System http://www.jwsdot.com/| `-http://www.debian.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mozilla thunderbird crashes when opening attachments
Thunderbird crashes itself. There is no open dialog Maybe you have been upgrading from 0.5-x? If this is the case, try to rename the chrome directory in the users profile. At least until this is done after a major version upgrade, thunderbird may show some unwanted sideeffects. -- GPG messages preferred. | .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** Alexander Sack | : :' : The universal [EMAIL PROTECTED] | `. `' Operating System http://www.jwsdot.com/ | `-http://www.debian.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mozilla thunderbird crashes when opening attachments
thanks however right click on any attachment pdf, sxc, jpg and select open. THey all crash Does thunderbird crash itself or 'just' the apps started by the open dialog?? If so, does thunderbird crash if you select "save as.." too, or just when trying to open? If it crashes too, please state the filename (maybe there any special non-ASCII characters in the attachments filename?) -- GPG messages preferred. | .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** Alexander Sack | : :' : The universal [EMAIL PROTECTED] | `. `' Operating System http://www.jwsdot.com/ | `-http://www.debian.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mozilla firefox, mozilla thunderbird and kde-3.2.2
couldnt find anything in update-alternatives re evolution kmail or email for email there exists no update-alternatives directory. You may take a look at the faq at: http://www.jwsdot.com/debian/faq.html#q9 this faq states how to set the http(s) handler. For mailto handlers, it should be quite similar. -- GPG messages preferred. | .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** Alexander Sack | : :' : The universal [EMAIL PROTECTED] | `. `' Operating System http://www.jwsdot.com/ | `-http://www.debian.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Default profile settings in mozilla-thunderbird
It doesn't quite follow the standard relationship between /etc (global) and ~/. files (users). don't want to argue on that. BTW mozilla is not ported to linux Ever heard of XPCOM? If that ain't a port... Yes heard of it. http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/webservices/library/co-xpcom.html for you to read about it. In short xpcom is partly derived from corba. And that is platform independent from the scratch. No port, nothing. Actually, nothing ms specific at all. it is a suite running on multiple-platforms. Thus a cross-plattform tool. It does not contain so much differences from win to linux & vv. That is the point, it was made originally for MS Windows and doesn't quite follow the POSIX standards and conventions. What convention do you mean. I can't see such conventions! The problem is sometimes, that there actually is no such standard for linux. E.G. where is the posix standard, which application to select for a specific protocol (not mime-type). So you have an app and want to open an app for a certain url (e.g. a simple mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED], or newprot://123-some-uri/asa/connect#129292122). What config file should I look into? What system call should I make to get that info? AFAIK there is no such thing. If you know it, please let me know. Distributions or window manager must provide quasi standards, that of course often don't work in other environments. So no standard in those cases either. These aren't Debian system settings, they are POSIX and GNU system settings. This shouldn't be optional, and is a sign of something from abroad. Maybe they are ... I have not investigated on that. Nevertheless debian appears to best integrate that ;). If they integrate a standard, let them go. If not ... not that bad either. Don't complain about abroad things, that doesn't matter. -- PGP messages preferred. | .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** Alexander Sack | : :' : The universal [EMAIL PROTECTED] | `. `' Operating System http://www.jwsdot.com/ | `-http://www.debian.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Default profile settings in mozilla-thunderbird
You are following the good way going for /etc, the problem here is Mozilla itself. Being ported from MS Windows, it doesn't quite know how to behave itself in a multi-user system; Don't see the point. Mozilla knows howto behave in a multi-user environment! In addition mozilla had to learn howto work on a single-user envs (multi profiles) too! So they know what they are doing. BTW mozilla is not ported to linux, it is a suite running on multiple-platforms. Thus a cross-plattform tool. It does not contain so much differences from win to linux & vv. Of course, when new features are adapted that need platform specific coding (this occasions are really rare) they will push the windows development first. Since Windows users are those many poor little bastards out that really need help. Without a browser like mozilla(-firebird) all wxx users would be forced to stay with one of the worst apps available today ... an app where nobody is able guarantee that it won't show up a severe bug sometimes, that finally kills you:). An app that will definitly enter history: .. u know ? :-D So mozilla folks do right to help those poor WXX users. In some installations of Mozilla 1.5 (don't know about Firebird or Thunderbird) there is an Advanced Preference to force it to use global configurations, meaning from /etc. mozilla & its next generation standalone-apps (fbird, tbird) do hold all global configuration within their own tree. For debian that would be: /usr/lib/mozilla-thunderbird/default/prefs. the prefs folder is linked to /etc/mozilla-thunderbird/prefs/. You may edit the entries there to change default settings. This will always works. You won't have to force it. These settings should not become silently overwritten when upgrading the next time. To do something that really works for you is a matter of if you know what you are doing & where you wanna get after having done so. The switch in the advanced preference dialog says to inherit from system options. This tries to determine as many settings from debian system settings. AFAIK this is a debian only feature to integrate mozilla with the debian distribution. But I haven't yet discovered why it is there for some users and for others not. Scary. Not too scary. The official mozilla download doesn't have it. The debian package does. Oh for true native apps! Even MS has dealt better with MS Office for the Macintosh than this port of Mozilla for GNU/Linux! I ... won't say a thing :-X . -- PGP messages preferred. | .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** Alexander Sack | : :' : The universal [EMAIL PROTECTED] | `. `' Operating System http://www.jwsdot.com/ | `-http://www.debian.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]