Re: make thinkpad Fn-F12 work in sid
Paolo Alexis Falcone wrote:
I went back to debian sid after using ubuntu for a few months. So far,
i've been able to configure my thinkpad t42p to resemble some ubuntu
goodies except for fn-f12: nothing happens when i hit it, as supposed
to hibernate using ubuntu. I have verified that echo disk
/sys/power/state just works though. Any hint how ubuntu did it?
Also, how do i enable graphical notification of screen brightness in
gnome when i use the appropriate fn-key combination, similar to
ubuntu? Thanks.
What does the (sys)log say?
I know little about Gnome-specific power management (eew) but I do have:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /etc/acpi/f12.sh
#!/bin/sh
/usr/sbin/hibernate
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /etc/acpi/events/f12
event=ibm/hotkey HKEY 0080 100c
action=/etc/acpi/f12.sh
I have configured /etc/hibernate/common.conf as appropriate, but I have
an X31 which may be a little different. Hopefully the above will get
you going.
ISTR that the graphical notification comes from tpb.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ find /etc/ -exec grep -H tpb {} \;
/etc/default/tpb:# set this option to 'true' if you want to start tpb
automatically after X has
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ps ax |grep tpb
30002 ?Sl 0:00 /usr/bin/tpb -d
11924 pts/1R+ 0:00 grep tpb
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ killall tpb
Look, no OSD!
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ /usr/bin/tpb -d
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ipsec and dns
Hi all, I use openswan as a road-warrior. No issues with the connection, all is good. However, when the VPN is up, I'd like to use a different DNS server (one across the VPN) than the one that the local DHCP server provides. I have: supersede domain-name-servers 192.168.168.10 in dhclient.conf, but this breaks when I'm out and about with no VPN (such as roaming with a 3G card - but why that doesn't work is a different matter). Anyone know of anything that I can investigate to make this work more seamlessly? In summary, when the VPN is up, I want DHCP to use the above server. Down, I want it to use whatever DHCP suggests. Antony -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Media player
Brian Durant wrote: So, now that this problem is solved, I still need to deal with the original issue I posted about, which succinctly put is that I am a newbie mucking around trying to get all of the multimedia goodies installed. I have Helix and I have installed the w32codex, gstreamer, etc. However, Either I haven't installed everything or I have installed something that I shouldn't have. I get the following from the gnome-cd player: Error playing CD. Reason: Resource busy or not available. Goobox can't even find the CD (plus sometimes quits as soon as it starts) and Rythmbox and VLC refuse to play any audio files, regardless of whether they are .ogg, .mp3, etc. I thought I was just following the process for get multimedia to work, but there is definitely something not right here. Any ideas? Yes, make sure that your user is in the audio and cdrom groups. Have you read this? http://wiki.debian.org/SoundFAQ NB Automatix is quite well known for breaking stuff. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can't login... need help
Paul Ravish wrote: Hi Antony, I logged in as root and typed startx. This seemed to work as it took me to roots desktop. When I logged in as me (paul) and I typed startx I received the error message xauth: timeout in locking authority file /home/paul/.Xauthority Any ideas? Please don't cc me, I read the list. Don't run X as root. I suspect the above error comes from the running gdm. So as root, /etc/init.d/gdm stop. ps ax |grep gdm to ensure that it's dead. Then try the startx again. Are you running sarge? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Audio i/o
Roger Creasy wrote: Hello: I am trying to use an audio editing/recording program named Audacity. When I start the program, I an error saying that it failed to initialise the audio i/o error. I changed the ownership of /dev/dsp to the user and set permissions to 666. Now if I first run 'killall artsd' Audacity starts with no errors. The problem that I have is that I did not have to do these things with a previous install of my os. Any ideas as to how I can just run the program without the work around? If you joined #debian, the dpkg bot would tell you (as part of unix lessons), not to screw with permissions. What you really want to do is add your user to the audio group. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: x-window startup and other problems
Sorry for the top post, blame this fricking Blackberry. I think there is
awareness that the documentation and access to it, could be better. I have
raised a bug against www.debian.org to this end.
May I suggest that you raise a bug for the breakage, or better still, submit a
patch?
-Original Message-
From: Mike McCarty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 11:38:28
To:Antony Gelberg [EMAIL PROTECTED], debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: x-window startup and other problems
Antony Gelberg wrote:
I think that whenever somebody installs an OS, he should read the
manual. You need to read the Debian Reference. http://www.debian.org/doc
And I always think it's tacky when the official support website
has link rot.
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Re: Overwhelmed newbie
Kjetil Kjernsmo wrote: On fredag 16 september 2005, 21:09, Antony Gelberg wrote: Please reply onlist. Errr, well, I don't consider this an important topic for the list, and it is also rather rude to respond to a off-list message on-list. Please refrain from that in the future. I suppose it is. I consider it rude to reply to an on-list message via personal email. It's because if people use stable, there is no reason to get burnt. Oh, there is plenty of reason. Stable has its issues, as any other complex software system. Ok, what reasons are there to get burnt by using stable? The point of stable is that it is very unlikely to burn a clueful user. There is no reason to be overwhelmed by anything if the user is willing to learn. I understand that Debian is not geared at newbies, but that doesn't mean that newbies can't use it. Well, speaking as someone who has his parents on Debian, I can attest to that newbies can use a Debian system fine. I also speak as someone who did his first Linux install ever with Debian. Been there, done that, didn't get a lousy teeshirt. However, in my parents' case, it is because I have made most of the complex, technical choices for them, and in my case, it was because I was dedicated and had a good friend and experienced sysadmin by my side throughout the process. Frankly, I find that to be efficient on Debian, one should read many hundred pages of documentation. I'm perfectly fine with that, because I realized from the start that it would pay in increased productivity once I'm up to speed. However, one must acknowledge that this is an imposing task for most users. So what? The OP didn't say he wasn't willing to learn. We could give him the option. Most importantly, this is _debian_-user. If you want to advocate other distributions willy-nilly, it's not the place. That kind of isolationism is something I think you will find very little support for in the free software community. I think most people will agree that we want to direct people to what is best for them. Call it what you want, and I'm not looking for support. I can support myself. Notice the phrase willy-nilly above. I didn't say we should never recommend other distributions. I totally agree that Debian is not for everybody. I do feel that we could have made more of an effort to help the OP to use Debian before nudging him in that direction. Otherwise a large percentage of new users' questions could be answered with just move to a distro that makes more choices for you. Best, Anton -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Overwhelmed newbie
Andy Streich wrote: On Friday 16 September 2005 12:55 pm, Kjetil Kjernsmo wrote: Most importantly, this is _debian_-user. If you want to advocate other distributions willy-nilly, it's not the place. That kind of isolationism is something I think you will find very little support for in the free software community. I think most people will agree that we want to direct people to what is best for them. I am also an overwhelmed newbie, one who could not have been using Debian for the last 9 months without the kind (and sometimes terse and abrupt) help from people on this list. It takes a remarkable amount of dedication and time to become comfortable configuring a desktop Debian system on a machine with modest resources where you can't run KDE or GNOME without a significant performance problem. KDE and Gnome will hog resources on any distribution. I have heard that xfce is something of a compromise between bloatware and friendliness, so you may wish to try that. The choice of window managers for a desktop systems is, to really go out on a limb, fairly important. The best advice I've gotten is that I should just start installing and trying out all the others. That's not too appealing but I accept the reality. The best window manager is the one that gets in your way the least. I keep staring at my Ubuntu disks and wondering if I should switch horses. Yet I can't begin to estimate the costs involved -- in terms of my time and in the quality and maintainability of the resulting system. Would a few months of using Ubuntu cause me to come running back to Debian? I have no idea. Any pointers to useful reading material would be appreciated. You could try Martin's book, The Debian System, which is highly rated, although I haven't seen it. http://debiansystem.info. Apart from that, there's always the Debian Reference http://www.debian.org/doc, which isn't perfect, but is probably the closest online thing that Debian has to a manual. You could also be a little more specific in terms of actual problems that you are facing. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Overwhelmed newbie
Angelo Bertolli wrote: Andy Streich wrote: On Friday 16 September 2005 12:55 pm, Kjetil Kjernsmo wrote: Most importantly, this is _debian_-user. If you want to advocate other distributions willy-nilly, it's not the place. That kind of isolationism is something I think you will find very little support for in the free software community. I think most people will agree that we want to direct people to what is best for them. I am also an overwhelmed newbie, one who could not have been using Debian for the last 9 months without the kind (and sometimes terse and abrupt) help from people on this list. It takes a remarkable amount of dedication and time to become comfortable configuring a desktop Debian system on a machine with modest resources where you can't run KDE or GNOME without a significant performance problem. The choice of window managers for a desktop systems is, to really go out on a limb, fairly important. The best advice I've gotten is that I should just start installing and trying out all the others. That's not too appealing but I accept the reality. I keep staring at my Ubuntu disks and wondering if I should switch horses. Yet I can't begin to estimate the costs involved -- in terms of my time and in the quality and maintainability of the resulting system. Would a few months of using Ubuntu cause me to come running back to Debian? I have no idea. Any pointers to useful reading material would be appreciated. IMHO you can contribute something that may be very valuable: feedback on what exactly is difficult to newbies about Debian. Every time I see someone post, I really have to wonder what is it that seems different about Debian. I think a list of things that are difficult from people who aren't already intimate with Debian or Linux in general would be a great boon to the community. That's not to say to expect all those things to magically go away, but I for one would like to know. My experience on #debian suggests, in no particular order: o Not using stable and can't fix broken packages. o Compiling the kernel when there is no need. o Moaning that stable doesn't contain the latest whizz-bang KDE, Gnome, etc. o Having ten different backports and wondering why their packages conflict. o Reading non-Debian ways of doing things and making life unnecessarily hard e.g. trying to download and install source instead of using apt. This is reflective of the fact that these days, people just google and don't think about the credentials of the site that google leads them to. o Not knowing that SATA install support is better with linux26. o Not knowing how to configure X and ALSA. o Typing commands and not knowing what they do. o Not reading man pages or /usr/share/doc/packagename o Wanting to be breastfed with answers, aka laziness. Ironically, the distro that allows sysadmins to sit back and put their feet up ;-) requires a lack of laziness to learn it. Debian is surely not for these people. My understanding is that Debian welcomes patches from anybody who can improve the documentation situation on the www.debian.org. The Debian Reference is a good start but could be so much better. Perhaps those of you who have your own howtos and guides (e.g. Clive M) would consider rolling this information into Debian? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Overwhelmed newbie
Steve Lamb wrote: Antony Gelberg wrote: I really don't think that this is the kind of thing to recommend on d-u without a very good reason. The amazingly simple install is a very good reason. Hell, I've used Debian since the libc5 days and *I* preferred Ubuntu's setup to even Sarge's. My one and only complaint is that being such a hard core Debian user I don't see a viable way to migrate from Ubuntu to Debian because they use completely different package names. AIUI Ubuntu uses the same installer as Sarge. There's another Debian based distro out there whose name eludes me at the moment.. *rummages through his CD images...* Ah-ha... Progeny. Progeny is an awesome Debian based distro in that the installer is easy as cake and aside from about a dozen custom named packages they use Debian packages so migration over to mainline Debian is easy. All in all when talking to someone who is coming fresh into Linux but has enough experience to install Windows I'd point them at Progeny, Knoppix or Ubuntu and stress that once they get comfortable to move on over to mainline Debian. I don't think it's so much to do with the newness of the user as the character of the user. I've seen new users get on well with Debian, getting it very quickly. I've also seen (otherwise) very experienced users get very frustrated with their failure to understand The Debian Way. Perhaps we need a guide to TDW, so that people can make more informed decisions about whether Debian is for them. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Overwhelmed newbie
Steve Lamb wrote: Antony Gelberg wrote: See my previous post. He's trying to install Debian, let's help him install Debian. However hard people think it is, choosing Desktop from the dreaded tasksel gets most people on their way. He's also trying to install Opera and yet noone's jumped on the 3 people that are shoving him towards Firefox and Thunderbird. I find that far more rude than suggesting another Debian based distro which is, by design, easier on those new to Linux and/or Debian in general. I'm sure that no rudeness was intended. Nobody told him not to install Opera. I think the gist was that as the Mozilla stuff is in Debian, it would be easier to install, not to mention a good intro to apt. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Overwhelmed newbie
Steve Lamb wrote: Katipo wrote: Steve Lamb wrote: He's also trying to install Opera and yet noone's jumped on the 3 people that are shoving him towards Firefox and Thunderbird. I don't know if they are doing that. Sure are. It's far easier for a newbie to install from main, without having to play around with their sources list straight up. Which the OP won't have to do. I took him stating he had Opera and OOo for Linux ready to install as I've downloaded the DEBs from the respective sites. One would think if he was looking to install Opera but didn't have it his wording would be different, no? :) Fine. What if his .debs complain about dependency problems? Then it's tears and frustration, or a good learning experience. It goes back to character. As a newbie, perhaps it's better not to risk dependency problems at the start. :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Overwhelmed newbie
Clive Menzies wrote: On (17/09/05 12:45), Antony Gelberg wrote: My understanding is that Debian welcomes patches from anybody who can improve the documentation situation on the www.debian.org. The Debian Reference is a good start but could be so much better. Perhaps those of you who have your own howtos and guides (e.g. Clive M) would consider rolling this information into Debian? I would happily contribute my notes into Debian; I confess to not having explored how to do this, mainly due to time pressures. If someone wants to point me in the right direction, I'll see what I can do. However, the notes I've put together are pretty subjective and would require some 'Debianising'; furthermore, I'm not sure how the stuff about Debian derived CD's would play on debian.org? Taking your notes section by section: Desktop - take a look at the Install Guide. Is there anything in your notes that would be useful there? File /mail server - this could go into the Reference. See 3.4, 3.5, 9.6. LAPP - nothing like this in the Reference at present. Needs much expansion imo, and I don't like the part about installing database files in /home. We could start a seperate debate about the Reference. It has great potential imo, but few read it. Perhaps it would be better split into smaller chunks and/or totally restructured. Some chapters have ambiguous names e.g. Debian Tutorials, Debian Tips, Tuning a Debian system. I havae asked on d-d whether the Reference is a going concern, before we go too far down the road of trying to improve it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Font selection with XFCE
Patrick Wiseman wrote: On 9/17/05, *Patrick Wiseman* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/17/05, *Otto Wyss* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With XFCE3 it was possible to select the current default font but since I upgraded to XFCE4 (Debian/stable) I can't. Which package is missing? Settings, User Interface Preferences does it for me. It would appear that the necessary package is xfce4-mcs-manager, but I'm surprised that a reasonable xfce4 installation didn't require it. aptitude -s install xfce4 on my sarge box wants to pull that package in. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: device file permissions the debian way
Haines Brown wrote: I'm trying to set up a new installation of debian so that user can play DVDs. I have debian sarge 2.6.8-2-686, an IDE dvd drive, gxine 0.4.1-1, libdvdread3-0.9.4-5. I can play .mp3 files OK with gzine. I created a dvd symlink: $ ls -l /dev/dvd lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 Sep 11 08:25 /dev/dvd - hdc I can play a dvd as root, but not as user. To play as user I am forced to use a 666 permission for the device file, which is not the debian way: $ ls -l /dev/hdc brw-rw-rw- 1 root disk 22, 0 Jul 31 18:54 /dev/hdc To do things the debian way, I should give /dev/hdc 660 permission and add the user to the disk group, but it doesn't work. I'm not sure you should ever add a normal user to the disk group. I also don't think you should add symlinks in /dev, although that is less dangerous. Where is it written that this is TDW? You may wish to investigate udev. It should give /dev/hdc the correct group of cdrom, and it should be trivial to add a rule to create /dev/dvd. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: configuring muttrc
Sam Rosenfeld wrote: Precisely what information do I need to get a working mutt for Debian 3.1? Once I get it working I think I can tailor it for my needs. I think the best thing to do is google. There's a lot of good muttrcs out there, ready for adaptation. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ffmpeg won't install
Rodney D. Myers wrote: I'm running etch right now, and trying to get ffmpeg installed, via aptitude, but I keep getting this error message; sudo aptitude install ffmpeg Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree Reading extended state information Initializing package states... Done Reading task descriptions... Done E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. E: Unable to correct dependencies, some packages cannot be installed E: Unable to resolve some dependencies! Some packages had unmet dependencies. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. The following packages have unmet dependencies: ffmpeg: Depends: libfaad2-0 (= 2.0.0-sarge0.2) but 2.0.0-0.7 is installed. Any ideas how to correct this? Install stable. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: can not edit XF86Config-4
dale schleyer wrote: for some reason i am unable to edit the XF86Config file even though i am logged in as root any help greatly appericated You need to give us more information - the above is far too vague. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I got random freeze in my KDE......
yasker wrote: It is the completely FREEZE. The mouse point can't move. Any key include num lock response none. Ctrl-Alt-Backspace and Ctrl-Alt-Fx can't work too. I have no choice except press the reset button. I got AC97(intel 810 or 810E, I can't remember.), and install this version(Debian Sarge, kernel 2.6.8-2-386, KDE3.3, get alsa by apt. arts is forbidden) not long ago. And this kind of thing happened randomly. I remember the first time I opened xmms and a chm viewer. Then I thought it might be alsa's error. So I opened xmms, minutes later, it was frozen. Then I followed alsa's introduction on intel 8x0, customize my configuration(/etc/modutils/alsa-base /etc/asound.conf and run update-modules). It was nothing happened yesterday, so I thought that's all right. But today, it happened again. I don't know what's wrong completely. The situation of freeze is very serious, and I think debian should be very strong.(because of reset, I got few times can't boot the system). Thanks for replying. Try disabling sound in your bios. Do a memtest86. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gview and viewing .gz text files
John Talbut wrote: Once upon a time I could view various types of file from Nautilus using gview. Now it offers to open files using gview but comes up with an error when I try. And gview does not seem to exist anywhere any more, not on my system nor in Debian. What has happened to it and what has replaced it? What is the best Gnome viewer for .gz compressed text files? most. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: distinguishing USB device from non-USB
Pavol Gono wrote: Hi I need to distinguish what kind of device is /dev/hda, hdb ..., /dev/sda, sdb, ... Generally it can be IDE disk, SCSI disk, flash card, USB stick, USB disk, hardware RAID, etc. I looked to /proc file system and didn't find any safe method to find it out. Is in debian any userspace tool which can detect type of devices? You need udev. There's a good howto out there. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problem whith fluxbox
Álvaro Eixea wrote: Hello everybody: I instaled the new version of Debian called Woody and when I try to install my window manager, fluxbox the fonts on the menus and on the windows title bar appears smoothy, don´t look wheel and I can´t read It. The new version is Sarge. Please install that and then tell us about the problem. Woody is still supported, but it is likely that the upgrade will help. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Overwhelmed newbie
Fritz Brown wrote: Help! I have recently begun an attempt to install Debian on a Sony laptop (Mobile AMD K6-2 550MHz, 64MB RAM), and am thoroughly overwhelmed with choices about which I know nothing! I only need the ability to dial-up and network, surf the internet (I have Opera for Linux ready to install), and do some Office type stuff (I have OpenOffice for Linux ready to install, as well) at this point. But, when installing, I am faced with long lists of packages that I must choose whether to install. Can anybody give me a good list of what to choose? I am installing Debian 3.0 r4 i3. Please don't make me go back to Windows :( Thanks in advance. Fritz Brown Debian doesn't make those choices for you. I suggest you read the install guide, apt howto, and the Debian Reference for starters. Also understand that most software should be installed from Debian repositories, where it is available. (Opera isn't.) A common twosome is Mozilla Firefox and Thunderbird, giving you web, email, and news capabilities. You will want a windowing environment (xfree86) and a window manager or desktop environment. Looking at your hardware, I would shy away from the typical newbie choices of KDE and gnome, and perhaps install something lighter like icewm or fvwm. wmaker is good, but perhaps not for the newbie. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Overwhelmed newbie
Fritz Brown wrote: Well, I don't have any idea what's what when I begin the install. I have 7 CDs (booting from the CD), and get through the partitioning OK, but am utterly without a clue when it starts asking about packages with cryptic names and cryptic descriptions on the second bootup (or is it the third?). I hope you are installing Sarge not Woody. http://www.debian.org/releases -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ffmpeg won't install
Rodney D. Myers wrote: afraid that was the answer. :-( I was a little short. The other alternative is to wait until testing is unbroken again. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Overwhelmed newbie
Angelo Bertolli wrote: Kent West wrote: Fritz Brown wrote: , surf the internet (I have Opera for Linux ready to install), Once you have an Internet connection, you're good to go. Most applications you want are available from the official Debian repositories, and it's generally these versions you'll want to install, especially as a newbie. Opera, however, not being Free (although it is free), is not available from the Debian repositories. Might I suggest Firefox? On that note, I found that Firefox and Thunderbird are a couple of those programs that you don't want to use the Debian repository to get. I don't know why but the Debian versions of Firefox and Thunderbird don't allow me to install new themes or extensions. Then you're doing something wrong. It works for lots of people. Please don't spread misinformation based on an isolated incident. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Overwhelmed newbie
Kjetil Kjernsmo wrote: On fredag 16 september 2005, 14:20, Fritz Brown wrote: Help! I have recently begun an attempt to install Debian on a Sony laptop (Mobile AMD K6-2 550MHz, 64MB RAM), and am thoroughly overwhelmed with choices about which I know nothing! Yeah, I can really see that. It is huge, and not easy to gain an overview of. Others mention Sarge, the 3.1 version, and yeah, I wouldn't install Woody, for a desktop, it was allready outdated when it was released. But in fact, I would rather suggest you install Ubuntu, which is not Debian, but based on Debian. Have a look at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ They'll send you a free CD too! Cheers, Kjetil I really don't think that this is the kind of thing to recommend on d-u without a very good reason. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Overwhelmed newbie
Kjetil Kjernsmo wrote: On fredag 16 september 2005, 20:26, you wrote: I really don't think that this is the kind of thing to recommend on d-u without a very good reason. Why is that? I've seen many newbies burn themselves badly on trying to maintain a full Debian install, and like this user, often the reason why they won't return in the next few years is that they are overwhelmed by all the decisions they have to make. Please reply onlist. It's because if people use stable, there is no reason to get burnt. There is no reason to be overwhelmed by anything if the user is willing to learn. I understand that Debian is not geared at newbies, but that doesn't mean that newbies can't use it. The OP clearly didn't read the install guide. In the face of this, perhaps it is better to direct him to the install guide than away from Debian. Most importantly, this is _debian_-user. If you want to advocate other distributions willy-nilly, it's not the place. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Overwhelmed newbie
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Fri, Sep 16, 2005 at 07:26:19PM +0100, Antony Gelberg wrote: Kjetil Kjernsmo wrote: On fredag 16 september 2005, 14:20, Fritz Brown wrote: Help! I have recently begun an attempt to install Debian on a Sony laptop (Mobile AMD K6-2 550MHz, 64MB RAM), and am thoroughly overwhelmed with choices about which I know nothing! Yeah, I can really see that. It is huge, and not easy to gain an overview of. Others mention Sarge, the 3.1 version, and yeah, I wouldn't install Woody, for a desktop, it was allready outdated when it was released. But in fact, I would rather suggest you install Ubuntu, which is not Debian, but based on Debian. Have a look at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ They'll send you a free CD too! Cheers, Kjetil I really don't think that this is the kind of thing to recommend on d-u without a very good reason. Why not? Debian by itself can hardly be considered a starter distribution without the user making a signifcant outlay of time to gather a great deal of information and read. Distros like Ubuntu and Mepis take away much of the choice from the user and in return provide a package that is much easire for a new user to digest. See my previous post. He's trying to install Debian, let's help him install Debian. However hard people think it is, choosing Desktop from the dreaded tasksel gets most people on their way. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X won't start having upgraded from xsever to xorg
Tong Sun wrote: Hi, This is a real emergency. My X won't start now, having upgraded from xsever to xorg. Is there any way I can have my X back? I saw in thread Routine upgrade of packages tracking etch has hosed gnome http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Debian/2005-09/1631.html that there is way to restore using xserver instead of xorg. I tried to follow it, but wasn't successful. I removed all xorg and xserver packages and reinstall xserver from scratch, but still I was forced to install xorg. I installed the xorg, try its hardware auto-detection, again, but still my X won't start. The sypmtom is, still, the screen gets into graphic mode, with garbage on it, and the whole system just freeze. I tried Ctrl-Alt-\, Ctrl-Alt-F?, Ctrl-Alt-Del, nothing worked. Please help. It's a real emergency, and I'm desperate. Is there any way, any? Use Debian stable. If you can't handle package balls-ups, it's really not a good idea to run testing or unstable. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Routine upgrade of packages tracking etch has hosed gnome
Chuck Williams wrote: Hi all, I'm tracking etch and installed all upgradable packages on two systems today, including current etch upgrades to version 6.8.2 of some X packages. During the upgrade of one of the systems, but not the other, I was asked for the default xserver in a configuration question. Inadvertantly I left the default answer of xorg, while I run XFree86. The reconfiguration generated an xorg.conf that successfully copied all the config from my XF86config-4 (even the TwinView settings, etc.). However, I was left with a version of some core component in gnome that I'm not familiar with and cannot figure out how to revert. I've moved the generated xorg.conf out of the way and restored the default X server to XFree86 (by doing a dpkg-reconfigure on xserver-xfree86). However, my gnome still has these symptoms: 1. There is only one virtual desktop instead of 4 2. The standard Debian desktop background does not work -- it is selected, but the background is flat pale blue 3. The menus are different. Instead of Applications and Actions, I've got Applications, Places and Desktop, The set of available apps in the menus is also different. This is probably something very basic that I'm missing, but can someone tell my how to get my beloved version of gnome with its 4 virtual desktops back? Use Debian stable. If you can't handle package balls-ups, it's really not a good idea to run testing or unstable. Apart from that, have you checked the BTS? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Clear selections in Aptitude
Joseph H. Fry wrote: Due to the broken gnome issue, I cannot use CTRL+U to upgrade my system, unless I want gnome to be installed. Unfortunately, aptitude has all of the upgrades and such selected for installation (from a previous time that I forgot to CTRL+C out of aptitude) and I cannot simply deselect them to prevent any action to be taken. I could simply place all of those packages on hold, but then I would have to unhold them later when the issue is fixed. Is there a way to simply unselect all selected packages so that no action is performed on them... that way if I want to install something I can still use aptitude to do it? In aptitude, press g to see the list of packages marked for upgrade. On the one you don't want to upgrade, press : (keep). You can find this info in aptitude by pressing ?. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unidentified subject!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi:) I have wanted to try Debian Linux for a while now and so i downloaded the dvd images.Problem is,i tried installing it following the instructions(i am a linux noobie i'm afraid:))but i got stuck early on in the installation at the bit where it inspects your hardware,but when it got to 'loading module for scsi disk support' it freezes on me and goes no further.I have ruled out dvd error,so please can you help me get past this problem.My pc spec is,AMD 3200+(barton),gigabyte ga 7n400v pro motherboard,1 gig cheapo pc3200 ram,nvidia 6600 graphic,1 sata 80 gig hd,1 20 gig ide hd and a 10 gig for kicks.Hope it is something silly i am missing,Thanks:) Best wishes Nigel Cooper You could have a look in the installer progress (alt-f3 or f4, can't remember which), to see where it's hanging. This should give you more info to give us. Also google on debian sarge and your motherboard, and try #debian on irc.debian.org. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt-get upgrade fails after updating
Tong wrote: Hi, Today, I did my routine apt-get upgrade and noticed that the libc has been updated. However, now apt-get upgrade fails to configure the updated package. The error message is: How about a google search? http://lists.debian.org/debian-glibc/2005/08/msg00637.html http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=323849+ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Problem with apache 1.3 and php5
Well, If I try to access a website which contains php scripts like http://phpsysinfo.warezmaster.ath.cx/ the browser just asks me to download Perhaps you should get the warezmaster to fix his broken website. Very funny^^ What's the prob about my domain? I got it back up and running with apache2 and mod_php5. Don't exactly know what the problem was but now it's gone... Al least for the moment. Thx a lot for your help. I thought you were browsing to a site and fixing your server to correct your browsing problem, not realising that it was your domain. Sorry about that. :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Rotating mail.log
Sam Watkins wrote: On Mon, Dec 20, 2004 at 02:42:36PM +, Antony Gelberg wrote: My server just ran out of space due to mail.log and mail.info getting massive. I have run syslogd-listfiles --weekly, and both files are listed in the output. Any ideas on how I can debug this? (Please CC me, I'm not subscribed.) check this out if you want to rotate your mail logs daily: http://lists.debian.org/debian-isp/2004/05/msg00136.htmlo Thanks for replying. The above link, as far as I can see, relates to conflict between syslogd and logrotate, in a situation where one wants to change the rotation interval. I would be happy with mail.log et al being rotated weekly as per default, but even that doesn't work. nuts:/var/log# syslogd-listfiles --weekly /var/log/mail.log /var/log/daemon.log /var/log/messages /var/log/lpr.log /var/log/auth.log /var/log/debug /var/log/mail.err /var/log/mail.info /var/log/kern.log /var/log/mail.warn /var/log/uucp.log /var/log/user.log I wonder if cron is even running. :-O Antony -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Rotating mail.log
Antony Gelberg wrote: Hi all, My server just ran out of space due to mail.log and mail.info getting massive. I have run syslogd-listfiles --weekly, and both files are listed in the output. Any ideas on how I can debug this? (Please CC me, I'm not subscribed.) Antony Anyone able to help? Antony -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Rotating mail.log
Hi all, My server just ran out of space due to mail.log and mail.info getting massive. I have run syslogd-listfiles --weekly, and both files are listed in the output. Any ideas on how I can debug this? (Please CC me, I'm not subscribed.) Antony -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Radeon 9200 issues
Dominique Dumont wrote: Antony Gelberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have just gotten a Radeon 9250, which is really just a Radeon 9200 in disguise. When I try to start X, the display goes between power on / off every couple of seconds or so. The analogue cable works ok, but I resent having to use it as DVI is much better. Can't say much without looking at your Xfree86 log. Is there any line beginning with (EE) in it ? Nope, file is attached. I have also tried inserting the amd64_agp module instead of via_agp, and disabling all the X extensions - no joy. Again - this config works great with my Radeon 9000 card. I can see that when the screen flicks every second or so, I get a glimpse of the desktop, then a monitor OSD message saying something like cannot set this video mode, please set 1600 x 1200 @ 60hz. Antony This is a pre-release version of XFree86, and is not supported in any way. Bugs may be reported to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and patches submitted to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Before reporting bugs in pre-release versions, please check the latest version in the XFree86 CVS repository (http://www.XFree86.Org/cvs). XFree86 Version 4.3.0.1 (Debian 4.3.0.dfsg.1-8 20040928112350 [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Release Date: 15 August 2003 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.6 Build Operating System: Linux 2.4.26 i686 [ELF] Build Date: 28 September 2004 Before reporting problems, check http://www.XFree86.Org/ to make sure that you have the latest version. Module Loader present OS Kernel: Linux version 2.6.9.20041206 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-2)) #1 Mon Dec 6 11:12:32 GMT 2004 Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: /var/log/XFree86.0.log, Time: Mon Dec 6 12:14:55 2004 (==) Using config file: /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 (==) ServerLayout Default Layout (**) |--Screen Default Screen (0) (**) | |--Monitor PHILIPS 200P (**) | |--Device ATI Radeon 9250 (**) |--Input Device Generic Keyboard (**) Option XkbRules xfree86 (**) XKB: rules: xfree86 (**) Option XkbModel pc104 (**) XKB: model: pc104 (**) Option XkbLayout gb (**) XKB: layout: gb (==) Keyboard: CustomKeycode disabled (**) |--Input Device Configured Mouse (**) |--Input Device Generic Mouse (WW) The directory /usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic does not exist. Entry deleted from font path. (WW) The directory /usr/lib/X11/fonts/CID does not exist. Entry deleted from font path. (WW) `fonts.dir' not found (or not valid) in /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/CID. Entry deleted from font path. (Run 'mkfontdir' on /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/CID). (**) FontPath set to unix/:7100,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi,/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType (==) RgbPath set to /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb (==) ModulePath set to /usr/X11R6/lib/modules (--) using VT number 7 (WW) Open APM failed (/dev/apm_bios) (No such file or directory) (II) Module ABI versions: XFree86 ANSI C Emulation: 0.2 XFree86 Video Driver: 0.6 XFree86 XInput driver : 0.4 XFree86 Server Extension : 0.2 XFree86 Font Renderer : 0.4 (II) Loader running on linux (II) LoadModule: bitmap (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a (II) Module bitmap: vendor=The XFree86 Project compiled for 4.3.0.1, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: XFree86 Font Renderer ABI class: XFree86 Font Renderer, version 0.4 (II) Loading font Bitmap (II) LoadModule: pcidata (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libpcidata.a (II) Module pcidata: vendor=The XFree86 Project compiled for 4.3.0.1, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.6 (II) PCI: Probing config type using method 1 (II) PCI: Config type is 1 (II) PCI: stages = 0x03, oldVal1 = 0x80008d48, mode1Res1 = 0x8000 (II) PCI: PCI scan (all values are in hex) (II) PCI: 00:00:0: chip 1106,0204 card 1106,0204 rev 00 class 06,00,00 hdr 80 (II) PCI: 00:00:1: chip 1106,1204 card , rev 00 class 06,00,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:00:2: chip 1106,2204 card , rev 00 class 06,00,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:00:3: chip 1106,3204 card , rev 00 class 06,00,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:00:4: chip 1106,4204 card , rev 00 class 06,00,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:00:7: chip 1106,7204 card , rev 00 class 06,00,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:01:0: chip 1106,b188 card , rev 00 class 06,04,00 hdr 01 (II) PCI: 00:0f:0: chip 1106,3149 card 1106,3149 rev 80 class 01,04,00 hdr 80 (II) PCI: 00:0f:1: chip 1106,0571 card 1458,5002 rev 06 class 01,01,8a hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:10:0: chip 1106,3038 card 1458,5004 rev 81 class 0c,03,00 hdr 80 (II
Re: Radeon 9200 issues
Dominique Dumont wrote: Antony Gelberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Nope, file is attached. I have also tried inserting the amd64_agp module instead of via_agp, and disabling all the X extensions - no joy. Again - this config works great with my Radeon 9000 card. I can see that when the screen flicks every second or so, I get a glimpse of the desktop, then a monitor OSD message saying something like cannot set this video mode, please set 1600 x 1200 @ 60hz. Video 1600x1200 is not logged by X as possible for your monitor. Not sure what you mean logged by X as possible. It works fine with my Radeon 9000. You should try a more conservative resolution. Once you have a display, then slowly increase the resolution (and/or frame rate). When I get home I'll send you my Xfree config file (radeon 9200 with 1280x1000 video). Thanks, but I don't know if it's going to help much... Antony -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Radeon 9200 issues
Andrea Vettorello wrote: On Fri, 03 Dec 2004 17:08:51 +, Antony Gelberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I have just gotten a Radeon 9250, which is really just a Radeon 9200 in disguise. When I try to start X, the display goes between power on / off every couple of seconds or so. The analogue cable works ok, but I resent having to use it as DVI is much better. I'm running unstable, and 2.6.9. I take the liberty of attaching my XF86Config-4. Any ideas? The same config works fine if I replace the card with my old Radeon 9000 Pro. I actually have two of the 9200 cards and neither works. On your X config there's only a video mode present, 1600x1200, don't know if with the value in the horizontal and vertical range can works. I would add 1280x1024 and 800x600. It works fine with my Radeon 9000 Pro card, so I know that 1600x1200 works at those refresh / sync values. It's not clear, for me at least =), if you are using the DVI output. Usually you find DVI support on LCD monitors... I'm trying to use the DVI, but it only works with analogue. Antony -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Radeon 9200 issues
Hi all, I have just gotten a Radeon 9250, which is really just a Radeon 9200 in disguise. When I try to start X, the display goes between power on / off every couple of seconds or so. The analogue cable works ok, but I resent having to use it as DVI is much better. I'm running unstable, and 2.6.9. I take the liberty of attaching my XF86Config-4. Any ideas? The same config works fine if I replace the card with my old Radeon 9000 Pro. I actually have two of the 9200 cards and neither works. Antony # XF86Config-4 (XFree86 X Window System server configuration file) # # This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using # values from the debconf database. # # Edit this file with caution, and see the XF86Config-4 manual page. # (Type man XF86Config-4 at the shell prompt.) # # This file is automatically updated on xserver-xfree86 package upgrades *only* # if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the xserver-xfree86 # package. # # If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated # again, run the following commands as root: # # cp /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 /etc/X11/XF86Config-4.custom # md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum # dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 Section Files FontPathunix/:7100# local font server # if the local font server has problems, we can fall back on these FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1 FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/CID FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi FontPath /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/CID FontPath /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType EndSection Section Module LoadGLcore Loadbitmap Loaddbe Loadddc Loaddri Loadextmod Loadfreetype Loadglx Loadint10 Loadrecord Loadspeedo Loadtype1 Loadvbe EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Generic Keyboard Driver keyboard Option CoreKeyboard Option XkbRules xfree86 Option XkbModel pc104 Option XkbLayout gb EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Configured Mouse Driver mouse Option CorePointer Option Device/dev/psaux Option Protocol MouseManPlusPS/2 Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Generic Mouse Driver mouse Option SendCoreEventstrue Option Device/dev/input/mice Option Protocol ImPS/2 Option Emulate3Buttons true Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 EndSection Section Device Identifier ATI Radeon 9250 Driver radeon EndSection Section Monitor Identifier Philips 200P3 HorizSync 30-94 VertRefresh 56-85 Option DPMS EndSection Section Screen Identifier Default Screen Device ATI Radeon 9250 Monitor Philips 200P3 DefaultDepth24 SubSection Display Depth 24 Modes 1600x1200 EndSubSection EndSection Section ServerLayout Identifier Default Layout Screen Default Screen InputDevice Generic Keyboard InputDevice Configured Mouse InputDevice Generic Mouse EndSection Section DRI Mode0666 EndSection
test, please ignore
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last test, sorry people
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root-tail in unstable
Hi all, After my latest upgrade, root-tail didn't start with X. I have the following in my .xsession: |root-tail -f -g 80x9+67+0 -color gray procmail/pmlog |root-tail -f -g 80x9+1055+1065 -color gray /var/log/messages I tried to run it manually, and got: |antgel $ root-tail -f -g 80x9+67+0 -color gray procmail/pmlog | | the display isn't tall enough to display a single line in font '*' | | the geometry in use is 9 pixels tall | | font '*' is 13 pixels tall | |antgel $ Is this a bug? How can a 9 line display not be long enough to display a single line in any font? A -- Please don't CC me. Also _please_ read the following before posting: Documentation - http://www.debian.org/doc/ FAQ - http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ Install manual (i386) - http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/install -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mutt in xterm fun
Hi all, I think there is a bug in mutt 1.5.6 (and shortly before, but I upgraded to try and correct it). Simply, when I resize my rxvt, mutt goes to a 20-ish line display - the rest of the window is blank. Also happens with xterm, so it's not an rxvt bug. Before I report the bug, Is anyone else seeing this and is it a mutt bug? A -- Please don't CC me. Also _please_ read the following before posting: Documentation - http://www.debian.org/doc/ FAQ - http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ Install manual (i386) - http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/install -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
disks are hot hot hot
Hi all, I've recently built my first ever server with a pre-compiled kernel (2.6.4 from backports.org). I had two 160GB SATA disks which both failed after only a couple of months. I found this extremely strange, unless they were from a bad batch (not likely in this day and age). They've gone back to my supplier as faulty anyway. One thing I did notice is that the disks were rather hot, abnormally imo. The server is hardly stressed, as it's pretty much providing DNS, SMTP, and IMAP for all of one user! :) Motherboard is an ASUS A7N8X. What I am wondering is, is there some type of power saving mode / setting that I might have missed, a module perhaps? Or do these new fangled disks just run very hot? I've replaced them with two Samsung 160GB PATAs, and they're quite warm after only an hour or so, but admittedly they are doing a RAID sync. A -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
raid on bootup
Hi all, I've got a system booting off /dev/hdc. I've just created a RAID-1 with /dev/hda1 and /dev/hdb1. But on reboot, the RAID array is not recognised. Partition types are fd. Any ideas? large:~# mount /dev/md0 /mnt mount: error while guessing filesystem type mount: you must specify the filesystem type large:~# cat /proc/mdstat Personalities : unused devices: none large:~# large:~# ps ax |grep md 444 tty3 S 0:00 man mdadm.conf 576 ?S 0:00 /sbin/mdadm -F -m root 586 pts/0S 0:00 grep md large:~# A -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: raid on bootup
Hmm, typing mdadm --assemble /dev/md0 /dev/hda1 /dev/hdb1 lets me access the array. Why isn't it being discovered on boot? A -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: raid on bootup
On Tue, May 11, 2004 at 05:24:48PM +0100, Ciaran Johnston wrote: Antony Gelberg said: Hi all, I've got a system booting off /dev/hdc. I've just created a RAID-1 with /dev/hda1 and /dev/hdb1. But on reboot, the RAID array is not recognised. Partition types are fd. Any ideas? Are the partition types set to Linux raid autodetect? Check that the Yep, that's fd. last line of the partition table says this, specifically. Otherwise I think you need to do a raidstart to get the raid daemon to start. The raid daemon (mdadm) was running. It only did the business when I issued a manual mdadm --assemble /dev/md0 /dev/hda1 /dev/hdb1. A -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: raid on bootup
On Tue, May 11, 2004 at 05:24:50PM +0100, Antony Gelberg wrote: Hmm, typing mdadm --assemble /dev/md0 /dev/hda1 /dev/hdb1 lets me access the array. Why isn't it being discovered on boot? A Sorry to keep on replying to my own posts, but I have just gotten this when trying to run lilo: Fatal: Bios device code 0x81 is being used by two disks /dev/hda (0x0300) and /dev/hdb (0x0340) Any ideas? I found some discussion on google, but it's German: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-german/2004/03/msg11936.html A -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RAID failure
Hi all, I have two disks in a RAID1. An interesting thing occurred today. The machine stopped responding, and upone reboot, I got a kernel panic. Sadly, I had to act quickly and don't have the exact messages to hand. I think it was trying to rebuild the RAID array, due to a superblock modification time discrepancy (!). The next message was hda 0x51 DriveReady SeekComplete, followed by the actual kernel panic in the RAID code. I disconnected hda, leaving hdc connected. I then got a successful boot, which seems to indicate that hda has a hardware fault. But I seem to be missing files from the last five days. How can this be? The system was working fine for most of the last five days, and I am confused as to why these missing files weren't raided to hdc. A -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Stable vs. Testing Vs. Unstable
On Sun, Apr 18, 2004 at 09:14:20AM +0200, Sebastiaan wrote: For ordinairy desktop use I use Testing. Most packages are relatively up-to-date (although some packages are out for a year but not in testing). If I need an up-to-date package, I found it's always relatively easy to recompile it yourself. Testing barely crashes, it's perfectly suitable for desktop usage. The only problem with testing is that a package upgrade doesn't always go smooth (incompatabilities, dependencies), but usually the next upgrade fixes those problems. Unstable I don't use, so I don't have experience with it. All I know from the list is that unstable is often broken, leads sometimes to a complete unworkable system and a lot of Debian package and Linux knowlegde is often required to fix this. Again, the misconception rears it's head. For a lot of the time testing may well be / is less usable than unstable. I really think that this fact needs to be appropriately documented somewhere. Perhaps I'll raise a bug report. Often problems with unstable seem to be people hosing their machines by getting in out of their depth, and generally bodging stuff. A -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: branding debian releases
On Wed, Apr 14, 2004 at 11:22:22AM -0400, Chris Metzler wrote: On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 07:59:49 -0600 Monique Y. Mudama [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My understanding of the 'testing' distribution is in conflict with your description. Testing is the last to receive security updates, and I believe it is more prone to wide-ranging package bugs than is unstable. I see it more as a developer sandbox than a live distribution. Am I wrong? No, you're quite correct; and it's a point that's missing from most of this discussion. Testing is a box into which the components of the next release are being collected; at any given time, some of the components -- even ones which will be vital to the release -- may not be present at all, or may not be useful because of problems (security bugs) where the fixed component is still being tested (is still in unstable and hasn't made it down to testing yet). This is less true as we get close to release; but in the middle of the release cycle, it's quite common. All one has to do is search the archives of this list to find many many posts asking why GNOME in testing doesn't work right, why KDE in testing is completely unusable at all, etc.; followed by the usual explanations of what testing is. I concur totally. I think that this point could really do with some explanation on http://www.debian.org/releases [1] and http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/ [2] which if anything, perpetuate the myth that testing is more stable than unstable. I think the only good reason to run testing is if you are willing to help find problems in a potential release. A [1] testing: The testing distribution contains packages that haven't been accepted into a stable release yet, but they are in the queue for that. The main advantage of using this distribution is that it has more recent versions of software, and the main disadvantage is that it's not completely tested and has no official support from Debian security team. unstable: The unstable distribution is where active development of Debian occurs. Generally, this distribution is run by developers and those who like to live on the edge. [2] This release started as a copy of woody, and is currently in a state called testing. That means that things should not break as bad as in unstable or experimental distributions, because packages are allowed to enter this distribution only after a certain period of time has passed, and when they don't have any release-critical bugs filed against them. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: branding debian releases
On Fri, Apr 16, 2004 at 02:18:37PM +0200, Simmel wrote: Hi Pete :-) Personally I like the current Woody installer :-) I dislike the old and miserable/poor look of it, reminds me of old dos boxes or a blue screen :-) I dislike the poor information you sometimes get out of it (not true for every inst. step though) I find it quick and easy to use - runs nicely on older hardware due to not having the overhead of any kind of GUI. You got me there, keep the old look for old systems, bring up a new look for new systems with 128mb gfx memory, a nice optical mouse and enough sys mem to run 15 xservers at a time. I don't mean this to sound rude, but it probably will do. If you need it and no-one else is willing to do it, we look forward to submission of your patch. If no-one else is willing to devote resources to it, then take a step back and ask why. Also, please note that Debian doesn't only run on PC's, which makes the install significantly more complex under the bonnet. If you are only brought up in the GUI world of Windows, then I guess it will be a little disconcerting at first, but it's not hard to pick up. No I'm not I used VC20, C64, Amiga500, HP-UX Systems, Macintosh, PPC and PC's... but I'm glad that we have such powerful systems now, so why stick to the old crap? Because the old crap works, and is quick and functional. Bloating the OS to fit into newer systems is much more of a MS approach. At least the task selector and dselect do a good job of resolving any dependancies whilst installing - I have had loads of problems with Red Hat (although I have not installed it recently) and broken packages due to missing libraries etc. I don't argue only on the functionality I argue on the looks. I never used dselect because I still fear doing something wrong. I'm a little bit angry when I know that on other systems like rh I simply press the mouse button and i can (de)select packages without writing down 10 fancy keystrokes, this is too time consuming. Reminds me of my first experiences with vi. Time is an issue and also the easy-to-install thing. So whenever dselect pops up and asks if it should be run I'm like HELL NO!!! At the moment I even won't use tasksel but only install basic system and then run the apt-get. But remember, I'm talking about the first experience with debian, not people like you who are used to it. Perhaps you should try aptitude. Lots of people don't use tasksel or dselect after install, or ever. Aptitude has a GUI, and can be run from the command line like apt-get. May sound lazy too, and yes I'm a lazy guy. If my boss tells me to setup an apache server and tells me to use debian because the cust would like to have especially this distri well heck I'm stuck in the installation routine for hours trying to figure out how dselect works. GREAT :-( And the main part, installing apache, isn't even done yet (this was my first experience with Debian). I know to work with apache, but I don'T know how to install Debian, never seen it before. First time I saw RH and SuSe using X-Server installs I was like YES M$ gets their ASS kicked, this is almost too simple! Everybody can handle that easily! Different people have different criteria for what constitutes an arse-kicking. Some people want more bells and whistles, some want reliability etc. Also, how many people in the Windows world actually install their own OS? I suspect *most* buy a computer with it pre-installed, or take it to a shop for upgrades - the few that do it themsleves would have little problem with the current installation of Debian. Without wishing to sound too evangelical, I have had fewer issues installing Debian on a variety of hardware than I have had installing Windows - in fact, my main workstation refuses to run with Windows 2000, so has a nice copy of Woody + backports instead. I install every system on my own and I doubt that someone like my sister would be able to do a successfull installtion with debian and X. But she succesfully reinstalled win2000 on her own, without me even knowing it sorry you can't seriously tell me that it's simpler to install debian then wintendo, ah c'mon ;o) (we don't have to talk about the os itself, I'm on your side I hate this crash and burn system ;-) And to get away from M$ (winzigweich) you should try a RH and SuSe install and then judge for yourself. which install looks nicer? which installer is simpler to use for the average user? which installer has tons of information on any subject you can click with your mouse? but when it comes to the question which distri is the better one, I'm the first one screaming DEBIAN, because it's a hell of a distri, but still the installer is a thorn in my eye and as I remember there was an article posted recently, and the guy there also said that the installer is crappy, I'd have to agree here
Re: kernel 2.6 and memtester
On Sun, Apr 11, 2004 at 10:19:21PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: I have a weird problem here: A machine with an XP 2200 downgraded to 1800 MHz, 256 Mb RAM and an nForce2 chipset. 512Mb swapspace exist. Try turning APIC off. It's in the archives - nForce chipsets have issues with APIC. A -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: Debian has turned unusable.
On Mon, Apr 12, 2004 at 06:04:33PM -0400, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote: On Mon, Apr 12, 2004 at 04:39:22PM -0500, Kevin Ruml wrote: | This topic/suggestion that desktop users should use unstable rather than | stable, since it's no more unstable than other distros latest releases, | comes up regularly. What is the reason unstable isn't renamed to something | else to dispel the stigma the name gives? How about shortening the release cycle so that stable is more up-to-date? Let's solve the problem rather than the symptons. :-). (Note - this is not an invitation to begin a flamefest regarding why the release cycle is so long or to make suggestions regarding what other people can do to fix it. Instead it is an invitation to first recognize the issue and second to help resolve it) I think the issue is recognised. But due to the nature of the beast nothing can change, so there's no point discussing it. Personally I don't see what the big deal is. I am yet another happy long-time unstable user. It's not as if it upgrades packages without the user instigating the upgrade. So once the user has a stable unstable system grin, stability can be kept by not upgrading. A -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: hangs on Nforce2 kernel 2.6.4
On Thu, Apr 08, 2004 at 09:48:44AM +0200, Pim Bliek wrote: Hello, I am experiencing total freezes of my system when stressing my hard disk. When I normally use it, no problems. But when I move big files around, or do a find / -name somefile for instance, my system freezes after some seconds... I have an Asus A7N8X deluxe motherboard with Nforce2 chipset. I have a Western Digital 80 GB HDD connected to the PATA port. I use a custom self-compiled 2.6.4 kernel on Debian Unstable. Unfortunately, no errors in /var/log/syslog Anyone else experienced this problem? Or maybe someone knows how I can dig deeper into this problem? I am a bit lost... You could try turning APIC off. This was discussed yesterday, I believe. A -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian source for gaim 0.76 in debian?
On Thu, Apr 08, 2004 at 11:59:21AM -0400, Nori Heikkinen wrote: on Mon, 05 Apr 2004 10:26:07AM -0400, Nori Heikkinen insinuated: hey all, i notice that gaim 0.76 was released on april 1st. does anyone have a debian source for it up yet? yay! it's in unstable now, for those who care. /nori I bloody do. 0.75 had a bug where if you're chatting on MSN, an attempt to send a participant a private message goes to all in the chat. Very annoying, and potentially embarassing blush. A -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Kernel 2.6.5 and Nvidia driver
On Wed, Apr 07, 2004 at 02:50:45PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: This is an English-speaking mailing list. English is read from the top, down by the flow of context, not random order. Even first-year, non-native speakers pick up on this. It's not what you say, so much as how you say it. *PLONK* A -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AMD vs. Intel
On Wed, Apr 07, 2004 at 05:17:08PM -0400, Roberto Sanchez wrote: There are current known issues with nForce2/AMD combo. It has to do with a race condition during the C1 disconnect. The solution is to disable APIC, either in the kernel config or by passing apic=off (or noapic, I can't remember) on the kernel command line. Ever since finding out that little gem (and swithcing to 2.6 kernel) my machine has been rock solid stable. I can throw anything at it, and not a single lock up. Just to throw some weight behind this, this solution has worked for me on several Athlon / nForce servers I've built. I just removed APIC from the kernel completely. A -- Please don't CC me. Also _please_ read the following before posting: Documentation - http://www.debian.org/doc/ FAQ - http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ Install manual (i386) - http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/install -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AMD vs. Intel
On Wed, Apr 07, 2004 at 08:11:55PM -0400, Roberto Sanchez wrote: Antony Gelberg wrote: On Wed, Apr 07, 2004 at 05:17:08PM -0400, Roberto Sanchez wrote: There are current known issues with nForce2/AMD combo. It has to do with a race condition during the C1 disconnect. The solution is to disable APIC, either in the kernel config or by passing apic=off (or noapic, I can't remember) on the kernel command line. Ever since finding out that little gem (and swithcing to 2.6 kernel) my machine has been rock solid stable. I can throw anything at it, and not a single lock up. Just to throw some weight behind this, this solution has worked for me on several Athlon / nForce servers I've built. I just removed APIC from the kernel completely. A Just out of curiosity, how does removing APIC support (or disabling it in the BIOS) affect performance? What does an APIC do on a single processor machine? I understand the point in an SMP setup, but not in single processor. I don't think there is a point. These machines fly, 2600XP+, 512MB, 2x160GB SATA in RAID-1, and I have had no desire to switch APIC back on. A -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SATA RAID Question - New to linux
On Wed, Mar 31, 2004 at 01:45:00PM -, A Dehaney-Steven wrote: Hello. I am looking to install linux on a machine at home (AMD XP +2400) My motherboard(MSI K7N2G-LISR) supports SATA RAID with a Promise chip. I want to install and run from the RAID array. Will Debian work for me? I'm completely new to linux but I want rid of Mr Grates and his Micro Shaft products. Be gentle with me. If you'd googled for debian promise raid, you'd have seen my page. http://www.antgel.co.uk/compsci/linux/promise_raid.shtml Hope it helps. As an aside, you may wish to not configure the Promise RAID BIOS and do all yout RAIDing from Linux. It is more difficult that way - if you search the archives of this list, you'll see that you need to tread _very_ carefully. A -- Please don't CC me. Also _please_ read the following before posting: Documentation - http://www.debian.org/doc/ FAQ - http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ Install manual (i386) - http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/install -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to... (newbie questions)
Jeremy C B Nicoll wrote: I've a HP B132L which someone else put woody on for me, but I'm nearly totally ignorant of how things work in linux. Can anyone tell me how to: a) find out precisely which version of woody it is (if there are different versions or patch levels or whatever)? I don't know how to relate woody to posts I see naming particular kernel levels etc. To see your kernel version type uname -r. Each of the three Debian distributions may use one of several kernel versions. b) when it boots it automatically starts X and then KDM; I think I'd like none of the GUI stuff to start automatically but instead to start them by command if/when I want to. How do I do that? You need the update-rc.d program, which handles addition and removal of the relevant symlinks. man update-rc.d. c) If I manage to have KDM not start, will the command: gdm start GDM up instead, assuming it is installed? See above. d) how do I find out what software is installed? Eg *is* GDM/Gnome in my system, and if so, where are its libraries, if I want to explore its parameter files etc? dpkg -l will show a list of installed packages. Configuration files live in /etc. I think you should read the documentation on www.debian.org - as a newbie a lot of your questions will be answered there. And a good book on Linux - I used to recommend Running Linux but it has a bit of a RedHat bias. A -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The filesystem was not created during installation
On Mon, Mar 29, 2004 at 02:21:49PM -0800, k christ wrote: also disabled. Unfortunately, I don't have another hard drive or motherboard to try, so I'm looking for a little insight into the problem before I spend money on new hardware that may not fix the problem. Unfortunately, I think that's exactly what you need to do. It's always worth running memtest86 as well. A -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to do/repair a raid1 missing disk install (was: Re: lilo + raid = disaster (again))
Awesome post Henrique. This is worth structuring into a howto. This is the third time I've tried this, and the third time I've hosed the boot sector, and I'm tired of it. If you don't have time to make it into a howto, let me know and I'll do it. At this point, I have managed to recover to the point where I'm booting off /dev/hda, and mounted /dev/md0 as /. I've changed the partition type of /dev/hda1 to fd, and added it. My raid array is now syncing nicely. I've now amended lilo.conf so that boot and root are both /dev/md0, and I have raid-extra-boot=mbr-only. However, lilo -tv reports: Warning: using BIOS device code 0x80 for RAID boot blocks Warning: /dev/hdc is not on the first disk Fatal: map file must be on the boot RAID partition Is this because the array hasn't finished syncing, or is something sinister going on? I do have a system where I don't have the raid-extra-boot line in there, and it works great. Why could this be? Am I living on the edge with that box? A -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to do/repair a raid1 missing disk install (was: Re: lilo + raid = disaster (again))
On Fri, Mar 26, 2004 at 01:05:06PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: On Fri, 26 Mar 2004, Antony Gelberg wrote: Fatal: map file must be on the boot RAID partition Well, /boot (or wherever your map file AND kernel happens to live) must be in /dev/md0 for boot=/dev/md0 to work :) Other than that, make sure you are using a new enough LILO. The one in Debian testing should be OK. The one in stable probably isn't, although if that's the case, I wonder why it didn't bork on raid-extra-boot=mbr-only... Is this because the array hasn't finished syncing, or is something sinister going on? Something sinister is going on. You should get something like this: Warning: /dev/sdb is not on the first disk The Master boot record of /dev/sdb has been updated. The Master boot record of /dev/sda has been updated. Installing lilo (and debconf) from backports.org sorted it. As much as I love Debian, a new stable release can't come soon enough. I install enough servers, and there are always issues like this. Well, mainly this and requiring later install kernels. What I need to do is make a custom Woody CD with 2.4.25, lilo, debconf, exim, clam from backports.org. I've never had any luck doing this so far but I'll have to give it another go. Thanks again for an awesome post. A -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mail and Telnet time out specially under Linux
On Sat, Mar 27, 2004 at 12:16:33AM +0100, Ulrich Sucker wrote: Hi folks! During debugging a mail problem, I found a very interesting problem. My mail server says connection timed out if he tries to connect to some specific systems which are properly run under windows. I tried to connect the system via telnet and telnet timed out also. Then I tried some other machines (DOS, Windows, OpenBSD, SUN) and I found only Linux machines with such kind of problems, but not all Linux machines have this problem. The problem depends not to the kernel version (we tried 2.2.xx, 2.4.18 - 24). I have problems with these machines: 213.160.64.50 149.201.40.50 212.223.86.31 Has anybody an idea? Regards Uli I've got an idea but don't know if it's any use at all. Perhaps ECN is turned on on your problem boxes? Have a look at http://www.tux.org/lkml/#s14-2 and if you are really interested, ftp://ftp.isi.edu/in-notes/rfc3168.txt. A -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
lilo + raid = disaster (again)
Ok, this is very annoying. I was converting a server to RAID-1. The drives are SATA and use the siimage driver. They are hda and hdc. I had a nice Woody system up and running on hda. I created /dev/md0 with hdc, and a missing drive. I did a cp -ax to copy everything on hda to md0. All I needed was to get the boot loader sorted. I put boot=/dev/md0 and root=/dev/md0 in lilo.conf, and changed fstab to mount / on md0. Lilo came back with some errors. Unfortunately I don't have them to hand, but it was something like the boot map not being on the root device (this is vague, sorry). So I tried lilo -M /dev/hda and then /dev/hdc. This is where it goes a bit fuzzy. On reboot, I only got the dreaded LI. I unplugged hda, and hdc came up with lots of 01 (or something) repeated. I need to install lilo properly. I noticed that the latest d-i contains 2.4.25, which has the siimage driver, so I gave it a crack. I could nip into the shell and mount the disks, but I could not for the life of me get lilo to work. I'd settle for just getting it back on /dev/hda, and then actually trying to get the booting RAID set up without shagging it all up again. I tried lilo -r /mnt, but it said that -r was an unrecognised option. (I have another box booting off RAID-1, and it doesn't need the raid-extra-boot line.) Any ideas or help would be more appreciated than you might believe. A PS d-b folks, please CC me as I'm not subbed. PPS I couldn't build a lilo floppy as this box is floppyless. PPPS Was this problem caused by trying to install lilo on a running system with / mounted to hda not md0? Put another way, would it work if I booted from lilo on hda, mounted / as md0, _then_ ran lilo on md0? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: marking email territory? (was: Re: exim - automatic signature)
On Tue, Mar 09, 2004 at 09:37:09PM +0100, Nicolas Kratz wrote: On Tue, Mar 09, 2004 at 12:06:32PM -0700, s. keeling wrote: Incoming from Antony Gelberg: I'm deploying exim for a customer. Is there any way to automatically add a signature to all outgoing mail? I've read the docs but as usual, I'm curious; why would anyone want to do this? Isn't all the relevant information already in the headers? I can see it for something like a mailing list (unsubscribe instructions! :-), but why do companies feel a need to take ownership of/deny liability for/??? every email sent from their system? And if they do, that would still be done better in headers, wouldn't it? This topic is covered in the exim FAQ[1]. Also listed there are very good reasons not to do so, even legal considerations. Please try to talk your customer out of this, it's a Bad Thing indeed. I have tried to talk them out of it, way before posting here. They want to do it. The irony is, they're a solicitors' firm. A -- Please don't CC me. Also _please_ read the following before posting: Documentation - http://www.debian.org/doc/ FAQ - http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ Install manual (i386) - http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/install -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: exim - automatic signature
On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 10:13:29AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: On Tue, Mar 09, 2004 at 03:20:18PM +, Antony Gelberg wrote: I'm deploying exim for a customer. Is there any way to automatically add a signature to all outgoing mail? I've read the docs but as usual, can't make head nor tail of them. Find a new customer. There's no legitimate reason to add signatures to email at the server-level. Paul, whilst I have the utmost respect for the quantity of your input into d-u, I resent your usual holier-than-thou attempt to dictate policy, and I'm not sure whether to laugh at your comment that I should find a new customer. They don't grow on trees. My reason (legitimacy being irrelevant) for wanting to add signatures at the server-level is: THEY WANT ME TO DO IT. I don't think that what they want to do is a good idea. However, they are paying me good money and having tried to dissuade them from doing this, they are certain that they want to go ahead. A -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
exim - automatic signature
Hi all, I'm deploying exim for a customer. Is there any way to automatically add a signature to all outgoing mail? I've read the docs but as usual, can't make head nor tail of them. A -- Please don't CC me. Also _please_ read the following before posting: Documentation - http://www.debian.org/doc/ FAQ - http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ Install manual (i386) - http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/install -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sony AIT ATAPI in 2.4.24
Hi all, We have a server into which we've put a Sony AITi130a/S tape drive. Recompiled the kernel (2.4.24) to include ATAPI TAPE. On reboot, the logs indicate recognition of the drive: hdd: ~AÀ~AÀ~AÀ~AÀ~AÀ~AÀ~AÀ~AÀ~AÀ~AÀ~AÀ~AÀ~AÀ~AÀ~AÀ~AÀ~AÀ~AÀ~AÀ~A, ATAPI TAPE drive hdd: attached ide-tape driver. ide-tape: ht0: I/O error, pc = 12, key = 0, asc = c0, ascq = 81 ide-tape: ht0: can't get INQUIRY results ide-tape: ht0: I/O error, pc = 1a, key = 0, asc = c0, ascq = 81 ide-tape: Can't get tape parameters - assuming some default values ide-tape: ht0: I/O error, pc = 1a, key = 0, asc = c0, ascq = 81 ide-tape: Can't get block descriptor ide-tape: hdd - ht0: 450KBps, 6*26kB buffer, 4394kB pipeline, 110ms tDSC With no tape in the drive, the above doesn't happen - the drive is not detected as far as I can see. Subequent attempts to use the drive result in error messages like: Mar 2 15:07:38 server kernel: hdd: ATAPI reset complete Mar 2 15:07:38 server kernel: ide-tape: ht0: I/O error, pc = 1, key = 0, asc = c0, ascq = 81 Mar 2 15:09:38 server kernel: ide-tape: ht0: DSC timeout I was hoping that someone who knows the ide-tape stuff is around, and could help me with what those hex values and other errors mean, and even whether there is a chance that this drive is not supported. I'm going to upgrade to 2.6.3, but need to wait for an outage. Please CC me as I'm not subscribed. Antony -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SSH: does it require portmapper and what hostname is it looking for?
On Sat, Feb 21, 2004 at 10:07:28AM +, Anthony Campbell wrote: If you think I've got myself into a right muddle with this business, you're correct. Not a case of failing to rtfm, rather of too much rtfm (or the wrong fm, perhaps). I think a good book or other guide on IP networking wouldn't go amiss. Then the fm would make more sense. :) A -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: default destination in exim?
On Wed, Feb 18, 2004 at 05:20:15PM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: I get horribly uncomfortable reading exim documentation, but you have found exactly the bit I needed. Thank you *so* much. Ain't that the truth. I would have thought after so long with Linux, I'd be hardened to all the excellent but technical documentation out there. But that one is a git. I should probably get the O'Reilly book. Then again, I have the same problem with Emacs, but perhaps that's just me. (Not looking to start a war, even though I use vi most of the time, I'm incompetent on that as well!) A -- Please don't CC me. Also _please_ read the following before posting: Documentation - http://www.debian.org/doc/ FAQ - http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ Install manual (i386) - http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/install -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
XFree86 4.3 in unstable
Saw this baby in unstable, hence removed my experimental line from sources.list. An aptitude upgrade followed by aptitude upgrade showed quite a few packages to upgrade: The following packages will be upgraded: acpid apt apt-utils aptitude armagetron armagetron-common aspell aspell-bin base-config console-common console-data console-tools cpp cpp-3.3 cupsys cupsys-bsd cupsys-client cupsys-driver-gimpprint cvs debconf debconf-i18n debconf-utils debhelper debootstrap dictionaries-common easytag ethereal ethereal-common fam fontconfig g++ g++-3.3 gcc gcc-3.3 gcc-3.3-base gettext gettext-base gift giftd gnumeric gnuserv grep-dctrl grepmail gs-esp gstreamer-gconf hdparm iamerican intltool-debian ispell jpilot jpilot-plugins kernel-package lg-base libaspell15 libaudio2 libconsole libcupsimage2 libcupsys2 libdps1 libeel2-2 libeel2-data libfam0c102 libfltk1.1c102 libfontconfig1 libfontconfig1-dev libgcc1 libgift0 libgiftproto0 libgii0 libgii0-target-x libgimpprint1 libgnomeprint2.2-0 libgnomeprint2.2-data libgnutella-gift libgphoto2-2 libgphoto2-port0 libgtop2 libimlib2 liblcms1 libldap2 libmetacity0 libmusicbrainz2 libmysqlclient12 libnewt0.51 libobjc1 libperl5.8 libpisock++0 libpisock8 libruby1.8 libsmbclient libsndfile1 libsndfile1-dev libstdc++5 libstdc++5-3.3-dev libusb-0.1-4 libxaw6 libxaw7 libxml-parser-perl libxml2 libxml2-dev libxmltv-perl lynx make man-db manpages mime-codecs mime-support mplayer-mozilla mysql-client mysql-common mysql-server mythtv-doc nano nautilus-data ncftp netbase openoffice.org openoffice.org-bin openoffice.org-debian-files openoffice.org-l10n-en openoffice.org-mimelnk perl perl-base perl-doc perl-modules pilot-link po-debconf procps reportbug samba samba-common samba-doc smbclient smbfs ssh tar tuxracer-data ucf vcdimager vim vim-gtk wget whiptail whois wmclockmon xfonts-100dpi xfonts-75dpi xfonts-base xfree86-common xmltv-util xplanet xplanet-images xserver-common xserver-xfree86 xterm xutils zinf zlib1g zlib1g-dev I left it on it's own, and came back later. Every package installed ok except xserver-xfree86. I get a debconf window with yes / no option, but no question. I hit no, figuring that doing nothing is best. :) In the terminal, I have: Preparing to replace xserver-xfree86 4.3.0-0ds2.0.0woody2 (using .../xserver-xfree86_4.3.0-2_i386.deb) ... Unpacking replacement xserver-xfree86 ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/xserver-xfree86_4.3.0-2_i386.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/X11R6/bin/gtf', which is also in package xbase-clients dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) debconf: Unknown template field '_description', in stanza #1 of /var/lib/dpkg/info/xserver-xfree86.templates So I guess that it's dist-upgrade time, as this file must have changed packages. Problem is, if I do an aptitude dist-upgrade, it wants to install loads of bloat - including all of gnome? Why is this? Surely nothing recommends all of gnome... Can anyone give me a pointer? A PS If replying only to debian-x, I'd appreciate a CC. -- Please don't CC me. Also _please_ read the following before posting: Documentation - http://www.debian.org/doc/ FAQ - http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ Install manual (i386) - http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/install -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dch -I command
On Thu, Feb 19, 2004 at 06:51:53PM -0600, Dave's List Addy wrote: We are attempting to run a command and getting an error Trying to run dch -i But get the following su: dch : command not found Do we need to install a certain package for this? antgel $ apt-file search dch |grep bin dchroot: usr/bin/dchroot dchub: usr/bin/dchub devscripts: usr/bin/dch irda-common: usr/sbin/findchip opendchub: usr/bin/opendchub perl: usr/bin/podchecker tcpd: usr/sbin/tcpdchk antgel $ -- Please don't CC me. Also _please_ read the following before posting: Documentation - http://www.debian.org/doc/ FAQ - http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ Install manual (i386) - http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/install -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to install Debian with Promise FastTrak 376 chip onboard?
On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 06:43:16PM -0800, Nano Nano wrote: On Mon, Feb 16, 2004 at 01:07:54AM +, Antony Gelberg wrote: All correct, what a plum I am. Except for this. I asked not to be CC'd. You CC'd me. The fact that your MUA uses Mail-Followup-To: does not remove your obligation to check that the To: field of an email that you send is correct. A lot of people on the list don't use Mutt, and manage to get the reply correct even without the benefit of Mail-Followup-To:. I don't think list policy mentions correct setting of follow ups, desirable though that may be. FWIW, I have been aware of this for some weeks and do plan to correct it when I get a moment. Your lack of preparation is not my cause for concern. What lack of preparation? If you want to talk about a cause for concern, how about your inability to check the contents of your To: and Cc: fields? The simple fact is if your MUA wasn't using established standards (insofar as Mutt follows established standards) to indicate that you do indeed desire a CC on your reponse, you wouldn't be getting them. Mail-Followup-To: isn't a standard - as far as I am aware. It's a hack employed by several MUAs. I'm doing my part by hitting list-reply. You're not doing your part by not checking the destinations of outbound email. I'm have all SIGs blocked, because I don't care to read anybody else's philosopy or contact info: don't put info in there that must be read. My signature doesn't contain my philosophy or contact info. It does contain a reminder about one aspect of list policy and several useful links. If you hold on for a second, I'll just change my signature to suit people who don't care to read it. :-P You really are the limit. Thanks again. I'm not going to respond to any more posts in this thread. It's so dull. A -- Please don't CC me. Also _please_ read the following before posting: Documentation - http://www.debian.org/doc/ FAQ - http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ Install manual (i386) - http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/install -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mailto in mozilla-firebird
On Mon, Feb 16, 2004 at 03:52:13PM +0100, Olle Eriksson wrote: On Mon, 2004-02-16 at 08:02, Micha Feigin wrote: Is it possible to tell mozilla-firebird how to handle mailto links? I am using exim4 + mutt for mail. A quick Google search tells me you need the Mozex extension to get it to work. Homepage: http://mozex.mozdev.org I tried this. The install links from http://mozex.mozdev.org/installation.html don't work. Anyone have the .xpi and willing to post it somewhere? T -- Please don't CC me. Also _please_ read the following before posting: Documentation - http://www.debian.org/doc/ FAQ - http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ Install manual (i386) - http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/install -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CLI (was Re: cdparanoia a song in negative space)
On Mon, Feb 16, 2004 at 10:17:15AM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: On 2004-02-16, Ken Gilmour penned: On Mon, 2004-02-16 at 16:38, David T-G wrote: What?!? A girl who uses the command line? That's even rarer than a guy who uses the command line (hard enough to find these days). Marry me! [Admittedly, there might be some problems with my current wife.] People don't use command line any more? Hmm. I'm more familiar with the command line version of all my PCs / servers than i am with a mouse ;) She wants my body and you know it. They're out there ... they just don't call attention to themselves because they keep getting marriage proposals rather than help when they post on venues like debian-user =P She did ask for someone to make out with her. :-P A -- Please don't CC me. Also _please_ read the following before posting: Documentation - http://www.debian.org/doc/ FAQ - http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ Install manual (i386) - http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/install -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to install Debian with Promise FastTrak 376 chip onboard?
Please don't CC me. It's in my sig and it's list policy. On Fri, Feb 13, 2004 at 09:21:40PM -0800, Nano Nano wrote: On Sat, Feb 14, 2004 at 02:24:28AM +, Antony Gelberg wrote: I came in a bit late here. Have a look on my site - http://www.antgel.co.uk/compsci/linux/promise_raid.shtml. This has the Promise driver module built against 2.4.18-bf24. I have a 376 on my motherboard, but its disabled [1]. Currently I have a Promise Ultra TX 133 in there. There were problems in 2.4.18's Promise drivers fixed in 2.4.20, which is why you have to do the long convoluted process referenced in: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2004/debian-user-200401/msg05141.html I was under the impression you wanted a 376 driver. Any chance of a backported Ultra TX 133 driver that could just be put on a floppy like this? No. What I would do in your situation is plug in an IDE drive, install Debian on that, compile the latest kernel, mount the SATA drive / array, and do a chroot install. I've messed around trying to create a Debian install ISO with a late kernel with SATA drivers, but it's proven easier to keep an old IDE drive at the ready with the above-mentioned install. [1] I have an Asus P4C800-E with an onboard SATA/RAID controller. If I don't disable it I get memory errors with Microsoft's Memory Diagnostic tool (http://oca.microsoft.com/en/windiag.asp), and lockups when playing Freedom Fighter. memtest86 reports no errors! The errors are in Bank 0, even when you switch the chips, or if you put the chips in Bank 1 and 3 the errors are always in Bank 1. I found this: http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=enlr=ie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8threadm=JIxNb.34286%24ZuL1.19485%40twister01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.comrnum=1prev=/groups%3Fq%3Dp4c800%2Bbank%2B0%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8%26selm%3DJIxNb.34286%2524ZuL1.19485%2540twister01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com%26rnum%3D1 which says I should disable it. I couldn't read the link as it wasn't quoted, so who knows. A -- Please don't CC me. Also _please_ read the following before posting: Documentation - http://www.debian.org/doc/ FAQ - http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ Install manual (i386) - http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/install -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to install Debian with Promise FastTrak 376 chip onboard?
On Sat, Feb 14, 2004 at 05:17:39PM +0100, Danny wrote: Hi Antony, you are the man, which saved me! Install with the help of your webpage was easy and fast and the installer detected my harddisk (no raid). But now after reboot, I can't boot. Grub crashes and showed only the Grub prompt at the bottom of the screen. How can I boot with your driver? I don't use grub, so can't be of much help. I don't know why you have grub on a fresh system, as the default Woody bootloader is lilo. You will need to boot from an initrd, which the Woody installer should set up for you, based on the fact that you provided the ft3xx.o module at install-time. A -- Please don't CC me. Also _please_ read the following before posting: Documentation - http://www.debian.org/doc/ FAQ - http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ Install manual (i386) - http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/install -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to install Debian with Promise FastTrak 376 chip onboard?
On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 11:35:12AM -0800, Nano Nano wrote: On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 06:42:56PM +, Antony Gelberg wrote: Please don't CC me. It's in my sig and it's list policy. It's your fault. Your mail includes the header: Mail-Followup-To: Antony Gelberg [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] which makes Mutt's list-reply function add you to the CC. The header should like this: Mail-Followup-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Considering what a rude, rude response you posted, I'm certainly glad to point you it's on you babe. All correct, what a plum I am. Except for this. I asked not to be CC'd. You CC'd me. The fact that your MUA uses Mail-Followup-To: does not remove your obligation to check that the To: field of an email that you send is correct. A lot of people on the list don't use Mutt, and manage to get the reply correct even without the benefit of Mail-Followup-To:. I don't think list policy mentions correct setting of follow ups, desirable though that may be. FWIW, I have been aware of this for some weeks and do plan to correct it when I get a moment. I'm not even nearly the rudest person on this list. You'd better get a thicker skin if you're going to cry about this. I'm really pleased I tried to help you out by mentioning the chroot install possibility. Furthermore, I'm not a babe. Funny, I just hit e in Mutt, which I see you're using, and it unwraps itself just find. I found your reply unsatisfactory and have no wish for a further reply from you. Well in that case you'd better have plonked me or unsubbed (I didn't CC you, in accordance with list policy). Have a nice life. Thanks. A -- Please don't CC me. Also _please_ read the following before posting: Documentation - http://www.debian.org/doc/ FAQ - http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ Install manual (i386) - http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/install -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to install Debian with Promise FastTrak 376 chip onboard?
On Fri, Feb 13, 2004 at 12:04:03AM -0800, Nano Nano wrote: On Fri, Feb 13, 2004 at 08:38:03AM +0100, Danny wrote: Hi Nano Nano, to supply a floppy during setup is no problem. There in the Debian 3 installer is an option Preload modules from disk. And that is all I ask for, the modules (binary device drivers for Promise FastTrak 376), so that I can put it on disk, that the Installer detects my Promise FastTrak 376 controller. all I ask is that if you figure it out you tell me too I came in a bit late here. Have a look on my site - http://www.antgel.co.uk/compsci/linux/promise_raid.shtml. This has the Promise driver module built against 2.4.18-bf24. A -- Please don't CC me. Also _please_ read the following before posting: Documentation - http://www.debian.org/doc/ FAQ - http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ Install manual (i386) - http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/install -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RealOne player
Hi all, Anyone using the alpha RealPlayer9? I've been using 8 for ages, and thought I'd give it a go. After a hiccup where the libXm library wasn't in the ldconfig cache, I thought it would be plain sailing. But: bin $ /usr/local/RealPlayer9/realplay bin $ No mention of it in ps as a hung process, no nothing. Thought I'd ask here before I give up. A -- Please don't CC me. Also _please_ read the following before posting: Documentation - http://www.debian.org/doc/ FAQ - http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ Install manual (i386) - http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/install -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ping: Paul Johnson
Hi Paul, Just been reading your exim and clamav howto at http://ursine.ca/~baloo/clamd-exiscan.txt. I run a Woody server for several users, but I might find an exim4 backport to let me do this. Is there any way to enable this functionality only for certain users? I can see that the exim4 config you mention is totally different to any exim 3 config files, and I'd like an idea if it's possible before I migrate. A -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mymail worm
Hi all,
I haven't been around for a bit - had to unsub whilst I was waiting for
ADSL in my new flat. I was wondering - I have the following in my
procmailrc to kill the last but one main virus that was going around:
:0
* 14
* 165000
{
:0 BD
* b3IAAABBZG1pbgAAAEdFVCBodHRwOi8vd3cyLmZjZS52dXRici5jei9iaW4vY291bnRlci5naWYv
/dev/null
}
Anyone have a similar rule to nuke this new mymail worm? I have some
samples if anyone can tell me how to analyse them to paste the correct
thing in the BD line.
A
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idiot hoses boot sector (2.6 Promise SATA)
Hi all, Was just wondering if anyone has a boot-floppy image lying around with a 2.6 kernel containing the new GPL Promise SATA driver and RAID 1. I successfully migrated from 2.4 / Promise's crappy driver to 2.6 with the GPL, but then like an idiot, I got something wrong in LILO and can't boot. It's filling the screen with 9A, which indicates that it can't find the map file. I just need to be able to mount /dev/md0, then I can fix my boot sector. In the meantime, I'm going to try booting with a Knoppix CD. If that fails, I can always install Woody on a spare disk, get the right kernel config, and use bootcd, but I've never tried that before. Yes, I should have known better, but I was on a roll. A PS I'm not subscribed to d-b, so please CC me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian dedicated hosting
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi folks! I'm looking for a dedicated server supporting Debian, without paying through the nose for a custom installation. I'm with aktiom.net. I've been very pleased with their service after a few months. No affiliation etc... They are virtual servers, but that doesn't limit what I need to do. www.aktiom.net for details. A -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is OP Original Post?
Alphonse Ogulla wrote: Just for the record, does the acronym OP stand for Original Post? Nearly. Original Poster. A -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Would Knoppix enable access to router?
Anthony Campbell wrote: On 19 Jan 2004, Jacob S. wrote: On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 13:49:01 + Anthony Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After several days' work I'm still unable to connect to the setup web page for my router. This may be because I need dhcp but I have had no luck with this at all. Is it likely that Knoppix would allow this to work fairly painlessly? If it's really only a dhcp problem, most likely it would. On my dhcp enabled network I've never seen the Knoppix cd fail to successfully get an ip from the server and be ready for play. (Assuming it's able to recognize your network card, of course.) Oh, and my dhcp server is running Debian Woody, but I don't think that should matter. HTH, Jacob - GnuPG Key: 1024D/16377135 Microsoft gives you Windows... Linux gives you the whole house. Thanks for the quick response. I don't think the card should be a problem since that is what is connecting me now to my ADSL modem. It certainly seems worth a try so I've ordered the CD (should be useful anyway and it's not expensive). You're right that the Knoppix CD is useful. But I don't see why it would make it easier to connect to your router, unless your network card drivers are very new and are not included in the Woody bf24 kernel. DHCP client setup is trivial on either. Put another way, I think you might be barking up the wrong tree. A -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Would Knoppix enable access to router?
Anthony Campbell wrote: On 19 Jan 2004, Antony Gelberg wrote: You're right that the Knoppix CD is useful. But I don't see why it would make it easier to connect to your router, unless your network card drivers are very new and are not included in the Woody bf24 kernel. DHCP client setup is trivial on either. Put another way, I think you might be barking up the wrong tree. A I certainly haven't found it to be trivial. After long fiddling with /etc/dhcpd.conf, which kept producing errors of the form No subnet declaration for eth0 and the like, I eventually reached the stage where it says: dhcpd: socket: Protocol not available - make sure CONFIG_PACKET and CONFIG_FILTER are defined in your kernel configuration! As they are already configured I can see no way to get beyond this. I'll willingly admit I don't understand the network terminology very well but it certainly is not trivial to get the system to allow access to 192.168.0.1, which is currently my goal in life. But then there is no need to even set up a DHCP server, and hence no need to edit /etc/dhcpd.conf, or even have any dhcpd packages installed. A DHCP server allocates IP addresses. Your router probably has one built in. You want to configure your workstation as a DHCP _client_, to let it receive an IP address from the DHCP server (the router). man interfaces should be of use. Alternatively, if you are sure that the router is 192.168.0.1, you can configure your workstation with an unused static IP address on the same subnet, and forget all about DHCP. As you admit to not knowing the network stuff very well, it might be useful to read up on it so that you understand what is going on when you dive in, and save much hassle in the long run. :) A -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: init-script question: iptables and networking
On Sun, Jan 18, 2004 at 11:35:13PM +0100, Christian Schnobrich wrote:
Hello,
like many, I have an old box set up as gateway. Upon reboot, I'd like it
to load the appropriate iptables rules and set /proc/../ip_forward to 1.
Until now, I'm doing this by a self-made init script that will do just
that, but won't understand any of the usual start|stop|restart|[etc]
options. Not exactly a script, really.
Now I've stumbled over an actual existing script, /etc/init.d/iptables.
I just failed to see it until today.
Would it be 'smarter' or 'better policy' to employ this script instead
of my own pseodo-script? And, what does it actually do? I couldn't find
any docs, and reading the script itself I'm not sure whether I
understand it correctly -- I do however get a feeling as if my brain was
wildly spinning in my head. Just running the script and see what happens
doesn't seem to be a prudent approach as well.
Have a look in /etc/defaults/iptables. This suggests that the package
maintainer doesn't like the /etc/init.d/iptables idea. I don't see a
major problem with it, but then I'm sure he knows something I don't.
I ignore it, and put my iptables and other routing/firewall stuff in
something like /usr/local/bin/firewall_on, then call that script from
/etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh.
Next, in /etc/init.d/networking I found the following:
ip_forward () {
if [ -e /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward ]; then
echo -n Enabling packet forwarding:
echo 1 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
echo done.
fi
I read this as if .../ip_forward exists, set it to 1, however, this
doesn't work for me. This script seems easier to understand than the one
above, and I don't see anything that might have the power not to call
the above function -- it should be invoked every time the script is run,
but I have /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward = 0 after boot.
That function is called by the line lower down doopt ip_forward no.
And doopt looks in /etc/network/options. If you put ip_forward=yes in
/etc/network/options, that will turn on IP forwarding.
A
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Re: KDE 3.1 fails to start
Stephen Liu wrote: Hi John, Thanks for your response. KDE failed to login/start with following warnings + echo kde3: kde3 not found, Quiting kde3=kde3 not found. Quiting + exit Do you have a kde3 in /usr/bin? # ls -al /usr/bin/ | grep kde3 # ls -al /usr/bin/ | grep kde # ls -al /usr/bin/ | grep .kde # ls -al /usr/bin/ | grep .kde3 FWIW, the second one of those commands makes the others redundant. Why not just do ls /usr/bin/kde3? Minimalism is the way forward. :) A -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X program from cron
Hi all, I want to update my wallpaper at time intervals. So, I've set up a crontab: # DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE - edit the master and reinstall. # (/tmp/crontab.bCmoxk/crontab installed on Thu Jan 15 21:07:39 2004) # (Cron version -- $Id: crontab.c,v 2.13 1994/01/17 03:20:37 vixie Exp # $) 0 * * * * $HOME/bin/wallpaper_rotate $HOME/pics/wallpaper/ wallpaper_rotate is a dirty shell script: #!/bin/sh NEXTFILE=`ls $1 | rl -c 1` wmsetbg $1$NEXTFILE Now that's coding. Anyway, it works. However, cron reports: wmsetbg fatal error: could not open display I guess this is because it is not being run from my X session. Question is, is there anything I can do to get it to work the way that I want? A -- Please don't CC me. Also _please_ read the following before posting: Documentation - http://www.debian.org/doc/ FAQ - http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ Install manual (i386) - http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/install -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Truetype font size
On Thu, Jan 15, 2004 at 11:36:07AM -0700, s. keeling wrote: Incoming from Antony Gelberg: Anyone know how to change the font size in the following line: rxvt -fn -*-trebuchet ms-medium-r-*-*-*-*-100-100-*-*-*-* Do you know xfontsel? xfontsel -pattern '-*-trebuchet ms-medium-r-*-*-*-*-100-100-*-*-*-*' Yup, it was by mucking about with xfontsel that I got the font line in the first place. I don't see how the above helps me change the size of the font. In the rxvt (or xterm), the font appears to have a space between each character. I have put a screenshot at http://www.antgel.co.uk/compsci/linux/xterm_bigfont.png if anyone wants to see what I am going on about. BTW, your .sig says don't CC: you, yet your Followup-To: contains your email. ?!? I'll fix that, thanks. A -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Truetype font size
Hi all, Anyone know how to change the font size in the following line: rxvt -fn -*-trebuchet ms-medium-r-*-*-*-*-100-100-*-*-*-* I'm mucking about with fonts and with the above, rxvt comes up in the right font, but it's bloody massive. A -- Please don't CC me. Also _please_ read the following before posting: Documentation - http://www.debian.org/doc/ FAQ - http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ Install manual (i386) - http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/install -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt-get dist-downgrade?
On Fri, Jan 09, 2004 at 08:55:54PM -0800, Ralf M. wrote: Hi! Stupid question for debian users here: is there an easy way to downgrade a distro from testing/sarge to stable/woody? When I tried it, my glibc got totally shagged and f**ked up my system. I'd be very interested if anyone can tell me how to do it properly. And that was after following other links mentioned in this thread. A -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DHCP over bridge between WiFi and wired
On Thu, Jan 08, 2004 at 10:30:47PM -0700, Barak Pearlmutter wrote: I have a WAP which serves DHCP requests. I have a laptop with an 802.11b interface. The laptop connects to the WAP and gets its IP address via DHCP. I have another device (Grandstream BudgeTone-101, a non-wireless SIP phone) which uses DHCP as it boots. The laptop has an otherwise-unused wired ethernet interface. I would like to use the laptop as a bridge, thus allowing the SIP phone to plug into the laptop while I'm laying in bed. $ grep -A9 br0 /etc/network/interfaces iface br0 inet dhcp pre-up egrep --silent '^3c59x' /proc/modules || modprobe 3c59x pre-up /etc/init.d/pcmcia start || true pre-up cardctl insert || true pre-up ifconfig eth0 down || true pre-up ifconfig eth1 down || true bridge_ports all bridge_maxwait 5 bridge_stp on The bridge seems to work fine, except that the SIP phone never gets its IP address. Ie DHCP does not seem to completely cross the bridge. Any hints? Not really hints, but I've seen this on a bridge running iptables. I assumed it was the iptables rules not letting DHCP through. I didn't go any further as I was always going to put a DHCP server on the other side of the bridge anyway. Perhaps you could run ethereal and grab a trace to find out if any DHCP gets across at all. But it's strange. I didn't think a bridge knew anything about such high-level protocols. I know that with different subnets, there is DHCP relay, but I don't think that applies here. I'd be interested to know what you find out. A -- Please don't CC me. Also _please_ read the following before posting: Documentation - http://www.debian.org/doc/ FAQ - http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ Install manual (i386) - http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/install -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The Darkness
I actually got a response from the band's management, which is impressive in today's musical climate... Hi Antony, You are quite correct that Justin - and the rest of the band - were unhappy about the situation and after lobbying the record label it was removed. All copies in the shops now are copy protection-free. using MusicMatch JukeBox. inflammatory comments about copy protection deleted to protect these good people! That doesn't happen too often... A -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
