Re: Oracle

1998-10-10 Thread Bedrock LAN Administrator
Martin:

alien -i oracle.rpm
(or whatever the filename turns out to be)

that sounds like the best ~/.plan to me.
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On Fri, 9 Oct 1998, Martin Oldfield wrote:

  Alex == Alex Yukhimets [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Alex Debian is not a company to sign up with. You can use
 Alex Oracle on Debian with no problems whatsoever. It is even
 Alex distributed in plain tarballs and not rpms. You can download
 Alex it right now, if you want.
 
 Personally I think that this misses the point. If Oracle support
 RedHat and I can just get the software and install it then it's a much 
 more attractive proposition than having to install tarballs on
 Debian. Is it too much to hope that Debian's supposedly superior
 technology would persuade Oracle to release their software in a .deb ?


Re: beginner, system questions

1998-10-08 Thread Bedrock LAN Administrator
Greetings.  I saw that a few people have already answered your
question, but I thought I would give you a little more to go on to
help you get started.  I've compiled a list of linux sites and
organized them in a way that hopefully caters more to the beginners.
http://bedrock.dyn.ml.org/dejay/linux
Select the Documentation section and visit UNIXhelp for Users.
My web pages (particularly the linux section) are still in
development, but then again, that's what linux is all about.
In the near future, I will be focusing on putting in my own comments
and documentation throughout, so check back often.  Hope this helps.

 - DeJay.

On Wed, 7 Oct 1998, Aldinga Library wrote:

 I have an NEC powermate 468 sx-25i with 4mb ram and 120mb hd, with
 floppy drive only.
 I use the internet at the local public library.
 I have done a bare minimum install of 8 floppies by internet ftp.
 I have some questions.
 
 I have a floppy with several text files on it,
 How do you list the filenames and file sizes on the floppy disk.
 How do you copy an individual file from the floppy disk.
 How do you save an individual file to the floppy disk.
 I cant seem to find how to do this.
 
 The system clock is about two hours incorrect.
 Logged in as root,  I have tried setting the system clock with the date
 command but the system clock goes back to the old time when I reboot.
 How do I set the system clock and make it permanent.
 
 How do you alter screen and text colors, rather than the standard
 monochrome.
 
 
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Re: X Installation

1998-10-08 Thread Bedrock LAN Administrator
X on a 386?  *laff*  Don't bother.  I've been there, done that, as the
saying goes.  However, if you really enjoy pain that much, try using
the most generic settings:  SVGA driver at 640x480 resoltion.  Make
sure you look at the README file for your video card..  Start your
machine again without trying to use X, then as root, use XF86Setup
Make sure you read all the screens carefully, as there are many subtle
things one could easily overlook.
FYI, when I tried running Netscape on my 386 with 8M RAM (30M swap),
it locked up my machine every time.  you've been warned.

 - DeJay.

On Wed, 7 Oct 1998, Rodrigo Moya wrote:

 Hi all!!!
 
 I just installed Debian 2.0 in a 386 machine, during configuration of
 packages, I was asked if I wanted to create the XF86Config file, I said
 'yes' and after specifying my card, mouse, etc, it tried to switch to
 graphics mode. All the screen went blank, so I had to reboot. Now, how can I
 continue the setup (not only X setup) process from the point it stopped
 (well, I stopped), since X is not configured yet. I am sure I put the
 correct settings (Oak (Generic) monitor, microsoft mouse, Extender Super VGA
 800x600, spanish keyboard layout...), so what happened?
 
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Re: locked keyboard messed screen

1998-10-08 Thread Bedrock LAN Administrator
In a pinch, here's a few rescue commands:
if you're remote, to kill the X server without rebooting:
killall -9 startx
If you're at the console:
ctrl+alt+backspace
To put your console's virtual terminals back into a sane state:
stty sane  /dev/tty1
(etc.)
Sometimes, I have been able to use the trick of changing runlevels to
do this for me all at once:
init 2
init 3
(where runlevel 3 is my default with full network and xdm support,
and runlevel 2 is the same as 3 but without xdm)  Hope this helps.

 - DeJay.

On Wed, 7 Oct 1998, Mario Olimpio de Menezes wrote:

 Hi,
 
   I having some troubles to reset keyb and screen of a linux server.
 I can connect to it via ssh/telnet but can't reset its local login prompt.
 The keyboard is locked, crtl+alt+func didn't work; the screen is messed
 with several graphics patterns. The problem started just with a startx by
 a normal user. I tried to put xdm and it works ok. Even with X running,
 the virtual consoles doesn't work. When xdm stop things come back to caos.
   I tried some actions  (kill -HUP, MAKEDEV tty1-6) and can't
 get the login prompt again.
   What could I do except shutdown the server? 
   Thanks.
 
 Mario O.de Menezes | Many are the plans in a man's heart, but
 IPEN-CNEN/SP   | is the Lord's purpose that prevails Prov. 19.21
 
 
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Re: invisible network card

1998-10-08 Thread Bedrock LAN Administrator
i had a lot of trouble with mine at first also... so i ran the
dos-based eeprom setup program for it.  i used that to change the
card's software settings to the irq and base-i/o i wanted.. after
that, i finished installing it in my sleep.  you can get the program
from intel's ftp site, but if you still have trouble finding it, let
me know and i will send you my copy.

 - DeJay.

On Wed, 7 Oct 1998, John Watts wrote:

 Many thanks to those who tried helping with my earlier questions on compiling 
 the network driver I thought that I needed.
 
 Anyway, another question.  I have an EtherExpress 16 network card the 
 system I'm trying to set up as a linux box.  Linux refuses to believe it's 
 there 
 when I try to install the drivers for it.  Modconf gives me a rejected: 
 invalid 
 address   every time.  I've tried specifying the io and irq with 
 no luck. 
  Is this card just a piece of cr*p(possible) or am I missing something 
 obvious 
 (very possible)
 
 Rgds 
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Re: HP ScanJet Plus + Debian 2.0 (fwd)

1998-10-08 Thread Bedrock LAN Administrator
Ray, Thanks for the input.  Some things are making a lot more sense
here.  I'll make comments below.

On Wed, 7 Oct 1998,  Raymond A. Ingles wrote:

 On Wed, 7 Oct 1998, Bedrock LAN Administrator wrote:
 
  
  Greetings folx.  I have an old HP ScanJet Plus connected to my
  parallel port that I cannot seem to get working with Debian 2.0 no
  matter what I try.  
 
  If it's the scanner I'm thinking of (8bit grayscale scanner) it needs a
 proprietary interface card to function, which isn't much like a
 parallel port, except for the cable. Does it work with DOS/Windows?

DOS?  Whassat?  Winders?  Whassat?  *smirk* Seriously, though, I'm
afraid that I can't test this scanner under either DOS or Windows,
since I ditched all of that over a year ago (ain't it great to be
MS-Free?  visit www.i-want-a-website.com)
 
  The ScanJet Plus is not listed as one of the supported scanners at the
 SANE website. I'm pretty sure you're going to have a lot of trouble
 getting this to work. You may have to write a driver yourself.

I noticed before that it was not explicitly listed, but I was hoping
that some of the newer drivers might be backward-compatible. 
 
  I took a look at hpscanpbm, which is a command-line program to scan
 from HP scanners direct to a file, and which the SANE HP driver is based
 on:
 
 This program controls Hewlett-Packard ScanJet series scanners. It captures
 the image based on command-line parameters, and provides it
 as a thresholded, dithered, grayscale, or full-color Portable Pixmap. 
 
 This is not a device driver; your ScanJet should be connected to a
 SCSI adapter that is supported by Linux (which does not include the card
 that came with the ScanJet). This program uses the generic SCSI
 interface, so this feature must be available in the kernel. 
 

I'll look into getting this app.  Do you know off-hand where I can get
it?  If not, I'll do a web-search when I get a chance.  :)
 
  It doesn't look promising...
 
  architecture, with the I/O card in an ISA slot.
 
  Is this I/O card the one that came with the ScanJet? Does it work as a
 regular parallel port (can you plug a printer or perhaps a Zip drive into
 it?)

The I/O card is actually a multi-I/O..
EIDE+Floppy+Serial+Parallel.  All are enabled and working properly.
Yes, I have had a dot-matrix printer working on the parallel port
before.  This time, however, I modified my /etc/printcap to contain
only one remote-printer definition pointing to my other linux box.
Thus, lpd should not be trying to use this parallel port and should
not be conflicting with the scanner software or device.
 
  If so, it's just barely possible you might be able to get this to work.
 From what I understand, the Zip drives talk some funky SCSI-over-parallel
 language. *If* you can get that parallel-to-SCSI converter module, and
 *if* it talks the same way to the ScanJet, it *might* work...

I'm aware of the SCSI emulator kernel module... I forgot to check that
a moment ago while rebuilding my kernel, though... I can go back and
try that tomorrow.  Also, I *do* have a SCSI-Parallel adapter kicking
around which was given to me with the scanner.  I also have a SCSI
card floating around which is known to work with the NCR-5380 module.
I suppose that I could add those two components, but at first, this
seemed like overkill... perhaps now it is the way to go.
 
  misconfigured).  I created a link /dev/scanner - /dev/lp0 when I run
  xcam and tell it to use either pnm:0 or pnm:1 (what are these?) it
  ^^
  These are dummy scanners, for testing purposes. When you scan with
 them, it just reads a graphics file in PNM format off the disk.

This makes perfect sense now.  The last time that I saw 'pnm:' though,
was with rvplayer5.0 in 'pnm://www.ithaca.edu/radio/vic/viclive.ram'
or something like that. 
 
  Sincerely,
 
  Ray Ingles  (248) 377-7735  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  One man's 'magic' is another man's 'engineering'. 'Supernatural' is
  a null word. - Robert Heinlein
 
 

Forgive me for not chopping out all the extraneous info here... it's
in the interest of my time ;-)

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Re: X Installation

1998-10-08 Thread Bedrock LAN Administrator
On Wed, 7 Oct 1998, Richard E. Hawkins Esq. wrote:

 De Jay wrote
  FYI, when I tried running Netscape on my 386 with 8M RAM (30M swap),
  it locked up my machine every time.  you've been warned.
 
 Did you have a coprocessor, and did you have xfs running?

yes, I had a coprocessor.
I believe you are referring to 'xdm', not xfs.  i had xdm running as
well.  xfs (dos-based nfs client) was running on my 286, while pcnfsd
nfsd and mountd were running on my 386.  netscape took between 8 and 
15 minutes to load, and as soon as I landed on a page with too much
animation (animated gifs or java scripts, it didn't matter), netscape
would lock up my whole machine.  i used every trick in the book to
kill netscape and/or get back into the machine with another console or
another terminal... but even my serial-line terminal was locked up, so
I know that there was no way back in.  BTW, only 70% of my virtual
memory was occupied when it crashed.  if you have any suggestions that
I have not thought of yet, i am willing to try them :-)
 
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 A yar and a half or so ago, someone using macbsd without a coprocessor
 found that, contrary to what was believed, mosaic did work with 
 an emulated coprocessor.  He got called away and returned 
 an hour later, discovering that it had launched.
 
 Selecting fonts with no postscript equivalent for *everythign*
 and running xfs make all the difference in the world.  For that matter,
 even with a 486  coprocessor, they make the difference between
 painful  usable.
 
 X is single-threaded.  While it renders a font,, it can do nothing
 else.  And on a slow machine without a coprocessor, this takes a
 very long time.  With a 486/33, it can take a couple of minutes.
 
 By running xfs, you can keep the rest of X running to do something else
 (like hit keys to switch to a console :)
 
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Re: lowmem installation trouble

1998-10-07 Thread Bedrock LAN Administrator
I've had a similar hardware configuration running linux before, but
that was Slackware 3.0 (when *it* was considered NEW).  I've not tried
Debian with only 4M of RAM (and hercules card), but I can tell you
that Debian 2.0 liked my 386 with 8M RAM.  

The Debian installation process, however, does take up a LOT more RAM
than slackware or even RedHat does... at least, based on my
experience.  I'm not sure how much the lowmemrd image really does
require now, even though the standard used to be 4M.  I hate to steer
you away from Debian, but I the only solutions I can suggest is to
either upgrade to 8M (a $20 investment)  or try another distribution
like Slackware.  Even if you do get it working with 4M of RAM, your
machine will spend more time swapping than it will doing any
productive work.  If anyone else DOES know how to FORCE debian to work
with only 4M of RAM, please forward the solution to me as well.  :) 

Here is what I have on my 386 with 8M (running RedHat 5.0):
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /root]# free
 total   used   free sharedbuffers cached
Mem:  6600   6204396   4252236 2168
-/+ buffers/cache:   3800   2800
Swap:30864   5132  25732

 - DeJay.

p.s.  my 486 is running Debian 2.0  ;-)
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On Tue, 6 Oct 1998, Nathan Hendler wrote:

 
 I am trying to install Debian on my 386 w/ 4Megs of RAM and hercules
 video.  Using the lowmem.bin image, here is what happens... 
 
 boot: [I hit Enter.]
 Loading lowmemrd.bin ...
 
 That's as far as she goes.  It hangs there, all night.  I have to hard
 reboot.  Using the resc1440.bin image I get...
 
 SYSLINUX 1.40-2.1 [etc...]
 Boot failed
 
 Using the lowmemrd.bin image I get...
 
 [beep]
 
 Nothing at all, no error, and I have to hard reboot.  Using the root.bin
 image gets me the same result.
 
 Ok, obviously I don't know a whole lot about what I am doing.  Can anyone
 help me out?  I've installed FreeBSD and Linux before, but always on more
 modern systems with CDROMs.
 
 Thanks,
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Re: Problem using vi in telnet session

1998-10-07 Thread Bedrock LAN Administrator
I often have to manually set my terminal type to 'vt100' every time I
log into my linux box from the windoze machine in my office.  
export TERM=vt100
then all works fine.  You might also want to look into using the stty
command to rebind certain keys to match what your terminal emulator
sends.  as in:
stty erase ^?
where you press the backspace character to get ^?
I agree that the telnet app that comes with windoze sucks, but I
found it easier to find these workarounds than to install a new telnet
client on every windoze machine I visit when I want to telnet to my
real machine.  Hope this helps.

 - DeJay.
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On Tue, 6 Oct 1998, Steve Lamb wrote:

 On Tue, 06 Oct 1998 08:19:09 -0400, Jeff Miller wrote:
 
 I recently took a class on Unix and we used Win95 machines to Telnet into 
 our server and vi acted weird.  The instructor acknowledged this and said 
 that there was nothing we could do.  I would suggest using a Windoze X 
 Client software in place of Telnet.  We use Exceed and it works well.  
 There may be something available that is free but I don't know.  
 
 Tera Term works quite well in conjunction with Screen.  The telnet that
 came with Windows is lousy emulation and should not be used except in extreme
 cases.
 
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Re: URGENT !!! SYSTEM BROKEN (CONT)

1998-10-07 Thread Bedrock LAN Administrator
If you can boot to your hard drive from floppy, then do so, log in as
root, then try this:
cd /dev
./MAKEDEV console
then try rebooting from the hard drive.  For some strange reason,
/dev/console is easily corrupted and then causes a LOT of weird
problems like this.

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On Tue, 6 Oct 1998, G. Kapetanios wrote:

 
 Following to my prvious email
 I have installed lilo. the system can boot from floppy. 
 However, when I try to boot from disk the boot starts 
 but it hangs with the following message 
 
 VFS Mounted root (ext2) filesystem
 Unable to open an initial console
 
 This does not happen with the floppy boot. 
 Any ideas ?
 
 George 
 
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Re: Multi-partitions

1998-10-07 Thread Bedrock LAN Administrator
Just something to add to this (although Randy is correct):
Let's say you have a 1.2GB /dev/hda.  Make the partitions something
like this:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] fdisk -l
Disk /dev/hda: 64 heads, 63 sectors, 621 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 4032 * 512 bytes

   Device Boot   BeginStart  End   Blocks   Id  System
/dev/hda1   *11  258   506  DOS FAT
/dev/hda2  259  259  2641   83  Linux native
/dev/hda3  265  265  589   623000   83  Linux native
/dev/hda3  589  589  62162496   82  Linux swap

and you would have them mounted like this:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] mount
/dev/hda1 on /dos type msdos (rw)
/dev/hda2 on /boot type ext2 (rw)
/dev/hda3 on / type ext2 (rw)

Note that the /boot partition shown here as 10M can be as small as 3M,
and must be above that 1024 cylinder boundary.  This, however,
maximizes the space you can have for dos and still allow you to boot
into linux without LILO complaining.  Note also that you'll have to
move your kernel into the /boot directory, modify your /etc/lilo.conf
file to reflect that you moved the kernel, and then re-run lilo before
attempting to reboot linux.  I used a calculator to produce the values
show in the table above, so your actuall numbers will vary slightly..
but the principle is the same.  ;-)  Oh, as far as which one to
install first, go for debian.  After you install DOS, you'll most
likely have to use your debian's boot floppy to kickstart the machine
then re-run LILO, as DOS will overwrite the MBR (erasing LILO's boot 
code).

 - DeJay.

On Tue, 6 Oct 1998, Randy Edwards wrote:

 DOS is fairly fussy about where it wants its partitions.  If I were you, I'd 
 make a
 small DOS partition with DOS (how large is this supposed to be?  Beware of the
 ~510MB/1024 cylinder BIOS problems), install DOS onto it, and then install 
 Debian
 elsewhere on the hard drive using Linux's fdisk to make your new partitions.
 
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Re: // in paths

1998-10-07 Thread Bedrock LAN Administrator
yes, i've seen it:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /# cd etc/..
[EMAIL PROTECTED] //# cd etc/..
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /#
and repeat this ad-nauseum
can't explain this, though, as I've only seen this happen with debian!

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On Tue, 6 Oct 1998, David S. Zelinsky wrote:

 When I type (in bash):
 
% type foo
 
 it returns
 
foo is /usr/local/bin//foo
 
 with two /'s before `foo'.  (I get the same effect with `csh' and `which'.)
 Has anyone else seen this behavior?  Anyone know what's causing it?  Or how to
 fix it?
 
 I'm using Debian 2.0 (hamm); kernel version 2.0.34
 
 Thanks.
 
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HP ScanJet Plus + Debian 2.0 (fwd)

1998-10-07 Thread Bedrock LAN Administrator

Greetings folx.  I have an old HP ScanJet Plus connected to my
parallel port that I cannot seem to get working with Debian 2.0 no
matter what I try.  

The parallel port has Base I/O address 0x378. I believe that this
is /dev/lp0.  Someone please confirm / correct this for me.
Secondly, I'm running Debian 2.0 out of the box (from CheapBytes 4
CD distribution, if it matters).  It's an Intel 486/dx4-100, VLB
architecture, with the I/O card in an ISA slot.

I've killed lpd so as to not conflict with the scanner software,
'saned'.  I manually (re-)loaded the lp.o module.  I've configured
/etc/services and /etc/inetd.conf, /etc/hosts.equiv, along with every
other file that I can think of that is mentioned in the saned(1) 
manpage (but perhaps there's something here that I overlooked or
misconfigured).  I created a link /dev/scanner - /dev/lp0 when I run
xcam and tell it to use either pnm:0 or pnm:1 (what are these?) it
tells me Failed to start Scanner: Invalid argument on that device.
I've tried specifying /dev/lp0 and /dev/scanner and get the same
invalid parameter result.  It almost sounds like there is a module
that needs to be loaded in the kernel and is being overlooked. 

Can anyone offer some clues here?  Thanks in advance for your help.

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