Re: URGENT: Samba Won't Substitute %u In "Logon *" When LDAP Is Used
Version: 3.0.14a (debian stable: 3sarge1)
I just upgraded to 3.0.22 (debian "testing") and have the same problem.
I could really use some help on this one!!!
(I'm not currently subscribed to this list, so please CC me on any
replies -- Thanks!)
I'm just about finished converting our company's network from NIS to
LDAP. Part of that involved updating Samba to use that same directory
so all the information is maintained in one place.
Most everything is good, except that my roaming profiles won't work. My
smb.conf file is attached.
Upping the log level eventually showed messages like this:
[2006/05/22 15:16:29, 5] smbd/filename.c:unix_convert(108)
unix_convert called on file "%u"
[2006/05/22 15:16:29, 10] smbd/statcache.c:stat_cache_lookup(210)
stat_cache_lookup: lookup failed for name [%U]
[2006/05/22 15:16:29, 5] smbd/filename.c:unix_convert(175)
unix_convert begin: name = %u, dirpath = , start = %u
I traced this to the "logon path" configuration item. Samba is choosing
the value from the smb.conf file because I don't have these values set
within the LDAP directory; I just want to use the default generated one.
However, it semes that Samba is NOT substituting the "%u" in this case
even though it was when LDAP was not in use. At least "logon path" and
"logon home" are affected; maybe more.
To verify, I manually changed every "%u" in the smb.conf file to
"bcwhite" and then I can log on with my profile and home directory just
fine. An okay solution for me, but the rest of my users might complain.
Since my users are expecting to return tomorrow (after a long weekend)
and use their WinXP machines, I'd appreciate it if someone can shed some
light on this problem asap.
Thanks much!!!
Brian
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;
; $Id: smb.conf,v 1.7 2006/05/22 19:09:28 bcwhite Exp $
;
[global]
printing = cups
printcap = cups
load printers = yes
guest account = guest
invalid users = root
dont descend = /proc,/dev
unix extensions = no
bind interfaces only = no
interfaces = eth1 eth2
netbios aliases = titan share shell profiles
; don't risk problems with buggy dos programs (Visual C++) getting wrong
timestamp
dos filetime resolution = yes
; "security = user" is always a good idea. This will require a Unix account
; in this server for every user accessing the server.
security = user
; Change this for the workgroup your Samba server will part of
workgroup = precidia
server string = %h Server (Samba %v)
; If you want Samba to log though syslog only then set the following
; parameter to 'yes'. Please note that logging through syslog in
; Samba is still experimental.
syslog only = no
; We want Samba to log a minimum amount of information to syslog. Everything
; should go to /var/log/{smb,nmb} instead. If you want to log through
; syslog you should set the following parameter to something higher.
syslog = 0;
; This socket options really speed up Samba under Linux, according to my
; own tests.
socket options = IPTOS_LOWDELAY TCP_NODELAY SO_SNDBUF=4096
SO_RCVBUF=4096
; Passwords are encrypted by default. This way the latest Windows 95 and NT
; clients can connect to the Samba server with no problems.
encrypt passwords = yes
passdb backend = ldapsam:ldap://localhost
; It's always a good idea to use a WINS server. If you want this server
; to be the WINS server for your network change the following parameter
; to "yes". Otherwise leave it as "no" and specify your WINS server
; below (note: only one Samba server can be the WINS server).
; Read BROWSING.txt for more details.
wins support = yes
; If this server is not the WINS server then specify who is it and uncomment
; next line.
; wins server = 172.16.0.10
; Please read BROWSING.txt and set the next four parameters according
; to your network setup.
os level = 99
local master = yes
preferred master = yes
; Domain stuff
domain master = yes
domain logons = yes
;; domain group map = /etc/samba/domain-group.map
;; domain user map = /etc/samba/domain-user.map
;; local group map = /etc/samba/local-group.map
logon path = \\profiles\profiles\%u
logon home = \\shell\%u
logon drive = u:
logon script = logon.bat
;; add user script = /etc/samba/addhost %u
; What naming service and in what order should we use to resolve host names
; to IP addresses
name resolve order = host bcast
; This will enable nmbd to search for NetBIOS names through DNS.
dns proxy = yes
; Name mangling options
preserve case = yes
short preserve case = yes
mangled names = yes
mangle prefix = 5
mangling method = hash
; LDAP
URGENT: Samba Won't Substitute %u In "Logon *" When LDAP Is Used
Version: 3.0.14a (debian stable: 3sarge1)
(I'm not currently subscribed to this list, so please CC me on any
replies -- Thanks!)
I'm just about finished converting our company's network from NIS to
LDAP. Part of that involved updating Samba to use that same directory
so all the information is maintained in one place.
Most everything is good, except that my roaming profiles won't work. My
smb.conf file is attached.
Upping the log level eventually showed messages like this:
[2006/05/22 15:16:29, 5] smbd/filename.c:unix_convert(108)
unix_convert called on file "%u"
[2006/05/22 15:16:29, 10] smbd/statcache.c:stat_cache_lookup(210)
stat_cache_lookup: lookup failed for name [%U]
[2006/05/22 15:16:29, 5] smbd/filename.c:unix_convert(175)
unix_convert begin: name = %u, dirpath = , start = %u
I traced this to the "logon path" configuration item. Samba is choosing
the value from the smb.conf file because I don't have these values set
within the LDAP directory; I just want to use the default generated one.
However, it semes that Samba is NOT substituting the "%u" in this case
even though it was when LDAP was not in use. At least "logon path" and
"logon home" are affected; maybe more.
To verify, I manually changed every "%u" in the smb.conf file to
"bcwhite" and then I can log on with my profile and home directory just
fine. An okay solution for me, but the rest of my users might complain.
Since my users are expecting to return tomorrow (after a long weekend)
and use their WinXP machines, I'd appreciate it if someone can shed some
light on this problem asap.
Thanks much!!!
Brian
( [EMAIL PROTECTED] )
---
Until we are first independent, we cannot be interdependent.
;
; $Id: smb.conf,v 1.7 2006/05/22 19:09:28 bcwhite Exp $
;
[global]
printing = cups
printcap = cups
load printers = yes
guest account = guest
invalid users = root
dont descend = /proc,/dev
unix extensions = no
bind interfaces only = no
interfaces = eth1 eth2
netbios aliases = titan share shell profiles
; don't risk problems with buggy dos programs (Visual C++) getting wrong
timestamp
dos filetime resolution = yes
; "security = user" is always a good idea. This will require a Unix account
; in this server for every user accessing the server.
security = user
; Change this for the workgroup your Samba server will part of
workgroup = precidia
server string = %h Server (Samba %v)
; If you want Samba to log though syslog only then set the following
; parameter to 'yes'. Please note that logging through syslog in
; Samba is still experimental.
syslog only = no
; We want Samba to log a minimum amount of information to syslog. Everything
; should go to /var/log/{smb,nmb} instead. If you want to log through
; syslog you should set the following parameter to something higher.
syslog = 0;
; This socket options really speed up Samba under Linux, according to my
; own tests.
socket options = IPTOS_LOWDELAY TCP_NODELAY SO_SNDBUF=4096
SO_RCVBUF=4096
; Passwords are encrypted by default. This way the latest Windows 95 and NT
; clients can connect to the Samba server with no problems.
encrypt passwords = yes
passdb backend = ldapsam:ldap://localhost
; It's always a good idea to use a WINS server. If you want this server
; to be the WINS server for your network change the following parameter
; to "yes". Otherwise leave it as "no" and specify your WINS server
; below (note: only one Samba server can be the WINS server).
; Read BROWSING.txt for more details.
wins support = yes
; If this server is not the WINS server then specify who is it and uncomment
; next line.
; wins server = 172.16.0.10
; Please read BROWSING.txt and set the next four parameters according
; to your network setup.
os level = 99
local master = yes
preferred master = yes
; Domain stuff
domain master = yes
domain logons = yes
;; domain group map = /etc/samba/domain-group.map
;; domain user map = /etc/samba/domain-user.map
;; local group map = /etc/samba/local-group.map
logon path = \\profiles\profiles\%u
logon home = \\shell\%u
logon drive = u:
logon script = logon.bat
;; add user script = /etc/samba/addhost %u
; What naming service and in what order should we use to resolve host names
; to IP addresses
name resolve order = host bcast
; This will enable nmbd to search for NetBIOS names through DNS.
dns proxy = yes
; Name mangling options
preserve case = yes
short preserve case = yes
mangled names = yes
mangle prefix = 5
mangling method = hash
; LDAP settings
ldap admin dn = uid=samb
Kernel Build failing: cannot stat `./debian/po': No such file or directory
I'm trying to rebuild the 2.6.15 kernel under a "stable" system using the debian source packages. It compiles fine, but when trying to build the actual binary packages (i.e. "debian/rules binary"), it fails like this: for dir in Config docs examples ruleset scripts pkg po; do \ cp -af ./debian/$dir /var/tmp/root/linux-2.6-2.6.15/debian/build/install-header-i386-none/debian/linux-headers-2.6.15-1/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-1/debian/; \ done cp: cannot stat `./debian/po': No such file or directory make[3]: *** [install/linux-headers-2.6.15-1] Error 1 make[3]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/root/linux-2.6-2.6.15/debian/build/install-header-i386-none' make[2]: *** [install-header-i386-none] Error 2 make[2]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/root/linux-2.6-2.6.15' make[1]: *** [binary-arch-i386-none-real] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/root/linux-2.6-2.6.15' make: *** [binary-arch] Error 2 Anybody have any ideas on what causes this? Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- ... was no trading on the NYSE today; everybody was happy with what they had. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Importing Windows Media Player URLs to RhythmBox
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Can't Boot 2.6 Kernel -- IDE is a Module
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C-_ on the console
When I hit C-_ ("undo") in an X window, it works fine. If I hit it from
a console window, it does nothing and I have to hit C-- (no shift) for it
to work. I tried "M-x describe-key C-_" but it doesn't even seem to notice
when I try to press C-_.
Any ideas? I did a search on Google, but couldn't find anything about this.
Thanks!
Brian
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Re: Can't Keep Kernel Log Messages From Console
> > I've been trying to stop kernel log messages (generally from iptables) > > from going to the console, and thus making the console unusable for login. > > I've tried different things, but they just keep popping up. > > > > I have "iptables" lines like: > > > > iptables -A WATCH -m limit -j LOG --log-level warn --log-prefix ACCEPT- > > > > and those message always appear on the console -- nothing else; just these > > messages. I've attached the "syslog.conf" file for more information. Any > > help is appreciated! Thanks! > > One way is to add `kernel.printk = 1 4 1 7` to /etc/sysctl.conf. This sounds like the best way, but I can't find any documentation on what the four numbers mean. Do you have a reference? Other things suggested (but not posted to the list were): - add "-c 4" to KLOGD in /etc/init.d/klogd - echo 4 >/proc/sys/kernel/printk Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- Relationships go through seasons. Winter often comes before Spring. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Can't Keep Kernel Log Messages From Console
I've been trying to stop kernel log messages (generally from iptables)
from going to the console, and thus making the console unusable for login.
I've tried different things, but they just keep popping up.
I have "iptables" lines like:
iptables -A WATCH -m limit -j LOG --log-level warn --log-prefix ACCEPT-
and those message always appear on the console -- nothing else; just these
messages. I've attached the "syslog.conf" file for more information. Any
help is appreciated! Thanks!
Brian
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P.S. Please CC me when replying; I'm not on the debian-users list right now.
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Relationships go through seasons. Winter often comes before Spring.# /etc/syslog.conf Configuration file for syslogd.
#
# For more information see syslog.conf(5)
# manpage.
#
# First some standard logfiles. Log by facility.
#
*.*;auth,authpriv,kern.none -/var/log/syslog
auth,authpriv.* /var/log/auth.log
cron,daemon.* -/var/log/daemon.log
kern.* /var/log/kern.log
lpr.* -/var/log/lpr.log
user.* -/var/log/user.log
uucp.* -/var/log/uucp.log
#
# Logging for the mail system. Split it up so that
# it is easy to write scripts to parse these files.
#
mail.* -/var/log/mail.log
#mail.info -/var/log/mail.info
#mail.warn -/var/log/mail.warn
#mail.err /var/log/mail.err
#
# Logging for INN news system
#
news.* -/var/log/news.log
#news.crit /var/log/news/news.crit
#news.err /var/log/news/news.err
#news.notice-/var/log/news/news.notice
#
# Logging for extra ("local") services
#
local2.*-/var/log/ppp.log
#
# Some `catch-all' logfiles.
#
*.=debug;\
auth,authpriv.none;\
news.none;mail.none -/var/log/debug
*.=info;*.=notice;*.=warn;\
auth,authpriv,kern.none;\
cron,daemon.none;\
local2.none;\
local5.none;\
local7.none;\
mail,news.none -/var/log/messages
#
# Emergencies are sent to everybody logged in.
#
*.emerg *
#
# I like to have messages displayed on the console, but only on a virtual
# console I usually leave idle.
#
daemon;mail.*;\
news.=crit;news.=err;news.=notice;\
*.=debug;*.=info;\
*.=notice;*.=warn /dev/tty12
# The named pipe /dev/xconsole is for the `xconsole' utility. To use it,
# you must invoke `xconsole' with the `-file' option:
#
#$ xconsole -file /dev/xconsole [...]
#
# NOTE: adjust the list below, or you'll go crazy if you have a reasonably
# busy site..
#
Re: Proposal - non-free software removal
> > Pursuant to Appendix A of the Debian Constitution and the guidelines > > offered at http://www.debian.org/vote/howto_proposal, I hereby offer > > the following draft proposal as the beginning of a General Resolution > > process to decide this issue. > > i do NOT second this proposal. > > if, however, it gains enough support that it will come to a vote, i > propose the following amendment: > > that the entire text of John Goerzen's proposal be replaced with > >"All Debian developers will be formally requested to renounce their >evil ways (if they have any), orphan any non-free packages they are >responsible for, request removal of said package(s) from the debian >ftp archive, and contribute their energies to free alternatives >instead. This is a request, not an order - each developer will be >free to respond to or ignore the request as they see fit." > > please do not second this amendment until & unless JG's proposed GR > gains enough support to require a vote. It seems that every couple years people get it in to their head that Debian should only support that which is DFSG and actively renounce everything else. It's fine to support free software and encourage people to use it, but bashing those that disagree with you has never been a particularly good way to accomplish those results. Let the unbelievers walk with you and hopefully convert them along the path. Dropping non-free would not help Debian. Most users and few companies are really concerned with the copyright on the packages they use as long as they get the job done. If you remove those things from Debian, then those users will soon go to a distribution that gives them what they want. Now, some people will say "Good Riddence" to them, but that's akin to cutting off your nose to spite your face. Don't let personal biases keep from making the best possible product for your customers. We've already got enough fanatacism in the world today; we don't need it here. I've had people bitch at me because I have packages that are not GPL. Indeed! They're in the public domain! (Which, for those who aren't familiar with it, is even more "free" than the GPL.) Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- Until we are first independent, we cannot be interdependent. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
INN Access w/ Shadow Passwords
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Q: Using Network Address as IP Address
Our new ISP has assigned us a small subnet and has given the router an IP address equal to the network address. network:209.161.204.232 netmask:255.255.255.252 broadcast: 209.161.204.235 router: 209.161.204.232 machine#1: 209.161.204.233 machine#2: 209.161.204.234 Is this legal? After setup, I was unable to create a default route to the gateway. The interface was configured properly, but when doing route add default gw 209.161.204.232 always returns the error, "network unreachable". To work around this problem for now, I've set us a 4-bit subnet (instead of only 2 bits) so that the router address would not match the network address. Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- Making a living is not the same as making a life.
dhcp-dns/nsupdate troubles
Hi! I've just moved our fileserver over to a new machine with a more up-to-date version of Debian installed. Unfortunately, I can't get the "dhcp-dns" package to work any longer. bind: 8.2.2p5-11 dhcp-dns: 0.50-3 I've attached the dhcp-dns update data file. Here are the log messages from bind when nsupdate runs... May 10 10:33:39 wolsong named[6582]: error processing update packet (NXDOMAIN) id 43382 from [10.0.1.2].1339 May 10 10:33:39 wolsong named[6582]: error processing update packet (NXDOMAIN) id 59024 from [10.0.1.2].1339 May 10 10:33:39 wolsong named[6582]: error processing update packet (NXDOMAIN) id 24014 from [10.0.1.2].1339 May 10 10:33:40 wolsong named[6582]: error processing update packet (NXDOMAIN) id 36085 from [10.0.1.2].1339 May 10 10:33:40 wolsong named[6582]: error processing update packet (NXDOMAIN) id 16894 from [10.0.1.2].1339 May 10 10:33:40 wolsong named[6582]: error processing update packet (NXDOMAIN) id 47470 from [10.0.1.2].1339 May 10 10:33:40 wolsong named[6582]: error processing update packet (NXDOMAIN) id 63161 from [10.0.1.2].1339 May 10 10:33:40 wolsong named[6582]: error processing update packet (NXDOMAIN) id 61320 from [10.0.1.2].1339 May 10 10:33:40 wolsong named[6582]: error processing update packet (NXDOMAIN) id 10045 from [10.0.1.2].1339 May 10 10:33:40 wolsong named[6582]: error processing update packet (NXDOMAIN) id 37822 from [10.0.1.2].1339 May 10 10:33:40 wolsong named[6582]: error processing update packet (NXDOMAIN) id 51795 from [10.0.1.2].1339 May 10 10:33:41 wolsong named[6582]: error processing update packet (NXDOMAIN) id 863 from [10.0.1.2].1339 Any ideas? Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- The future is not set. There is no fate but what we make for ourselves. -- JCprereq yxdomain clarke.ott.precidia.com update delete clarke.ott.precidia.com prereq yxdomain 29.2.0.10.in-addr.arpa update delete 29.2.0.10.in-addr.arpa prereq yxdomain perth.ott.precidia.com update delete perth.ott.precidia.com prereq yxdomain 38.2.0.10.in-addr.arpa update delete 38.2.0.10.in-addr.arpa prereq yxdomain wilde.ott.precidia.com update delete wilde.ott.precidia.com prereq yxdomain 27.2.0.10.in-addr.arpa update delete 27.2.0.10.in-addr.arpa prereq yxdomain toronto.ott.precidia.com update delete toronto.ott.precidia.com prereq yxdomain 11.2.0.10.in-addr.arpa update delete 11.2.0.10.in-addr.arpa prereq yxdomain archer.ott.precidia.com update delete archer.ott.precidia.com prereq yxdomain 16.2.0.10.in-addr.arpa update delete 16.2.0.10.in-addr.arpa prereq yxdomain adams.ott.precidia.com update delete adams.ott.precidia.com prereq yxdomain 10.2.0.10.in-addr.arpa update delete 10.2.0.10.in-addr.arpa prereq yxdomain melbourne.ott.precidia.com update delete melbourne.ott.precidia.com prereq yxdomain 41.2.0.10.in-addr.arpa update delete 41.2.0.10.in-addr.arpa prereq yxdomain london.ott.precidia.com update delete london.ott.precidia.com prereq yxdomain 32.2.0.10.in-addr.arpa update delete 32.2.0.10.in-addr.arpa prereq yxdomain clancy.ott.precidia.com update delete clancy.ott.precidia.com prereq yxdomain 14.2.0.10.in-addr.arpa update delete 14.2.0.10.in-addr.arpa prereq yxdomain sheldon.ott.precidia.com update delete sheldon.ott.precidia.com prereq yxdomain 15.2.0.10.in-addr.arpa update delete 15.2.0.10.in-addr.arpa prereq yxdomain eddings.ott.precidia.com update delete eddings.ott.precidia.com prereq yxdomain 13.2.0.10.in-addr.arpa update delete 13.2.0.10.in-addr.arpa prereq yxdomain newyork.ott.precidia.com update delete newyork.ott.precidia.com prereq yxdomain 31.2.0.10.in-addr.arpa update delete 31.2.0.10.in-addr.arpa prereq yxdomain clarke.ott.precidia.com update delete clarke.ott.precidia.com prereq yxdomain 29.2.0.10.in-addr.arpa update delete 29.2.0.10.in-addr.arpa update add clarke.ott.precidia.com 3600 IN A 10.0.2.29 update add 29.2.0.10.in-addr.arpa 3600 IN PTR clarke.ott.precidia.com prereq yxdomain perth.ott.precidia.com update delete perth.ott.precidia.com prereq yxdomain 38.2.0.10.in-addr.arpa update delete 38.2.0.10.in-addr.arpa update add perth.ott.precidia.com 3600 IN A 10.0.2.38 update add 38.2.0.10.in-addr.arpa 3600 IN PTR perth.ott.precidia.com prereq yxdomain archer.ott.precidia.com update delete archer.ott.precidia.com prereq yxdomain 16.2.0.10.in-addr.arpa update delete 16.2.0.10.in-addr.arpa update add archer.ott.precidia.com 3600 IN A 10.0.2.16 update add 16.2.0.10.in-addr.arpa 3600 IN PTR archer.ott.precidia.com prereq yxdomain toronto.ott.precidia.com update delete toronto.ott.precidia.com prereq yxdomain 11.2.0.10.in-addr.arpa update delete 11.2.0.10.in-addr.arpa update add toronto.ott.precidia.com 3600 IN A 10.0.2.11 update add 11.2.0.10.in-addr.arpa 3600 IN PTR toronto.ott.precidia.com prereq yxdomain wilde.ott.precidia.com
WANPIPE X.25
Is there anybody here using the Sangoma WANPIPE cards to do X.25?
Brian
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Re: php4 isn't finding mysql routines
> read /usr/share/doc/php4/README.Debian (you need to load the mysql module > into php4) Oh believe me, I read everything trying to find this. THe "README.Debian" is far from helpful here... == php4 for Debian -- -- Madarasz Gergely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tue, 16 Nov 1999 19:33:42 +0100 === I did eventually find this information in the php3 package, though, and now everything works. Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- Common Management Theme: The beatings will continue until morale improves.
Re: php4 isn't finding mysql routines
The surest way to solve any problem is to ask a question about it...
Apparently it doesn't matter how long you sit on the question, either.
I waited over an hour, working on things, but 30 mins after I send the
question, I find that I need a 'dl("mysql.so")' in the code (found by
installing the php3 packages and reading that documentation).
> I've just finished installing PHP4 and PHP4-MySQL. I added the module in
> to apache...
>
> LoadModule php4_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/libphp4.so
>
> And now php files seem to get executed correctly. However, as soon as they
> try to access a MySQL database, it appears the functions are not found:
>
> Fatal error: Call to undefined function: mysql_pconnect() in ./mysql.php3
> on line 15
>
> I can't find anything in the documentation about this. The "php4-mysql"
> package has a "mysql.so" library file in it, but zero documentation about
> how to use it so I assume it should work out-of-the-box.
>
> Is there something else I need to do?
Brian
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php4 isn't finding mysql routines
I've just finished installing PHP4 and PHP4-MySQL. I added the module in to apache... LoadModule php4_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/libphp4.so And now php files seem to get executed correctly. However, as soon as they try to access a MySQL database, it appears the functions are not found: Fatal error: Call to undefined function: mysql_pconnect() in ./mysql.php3 on line 15 I can't find anything in the documentation about this. The "php4-mysql" package has a "mysql.so" library file in it, but zero documentation about how to use it so I assume it should work out-of-the-box. Is there something else I need to do? php4: v4.0b3-1 php4-mysql: v4.0b3-1 apache: v1.3.9-10 (php3 is not installed, but there doesn't seem to be anything version specific) Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- No man dies except he who has not lived.
telnetd can't get ttys
I installed the new telnetd (v0.14-8) in an upgrade from Slink, but every connection attempt failed until I modified /etc/inetd.conf to say "root.root" instead of "telnetd.telnetd". The user and group telnetd exist, and telnetd belongs to the utmp group. Is there something else that needs to be set? There doesn't seem to be any mention of this in the telnetd manpage, nor is there any other documentation. Any ideas? Thanks! Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- Friends are relatives that you make for yourself.
Re: UPS anyone?
> APC general comments (http://www.apcc.com/) > > - Brian White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> has a Back-UPS Pro and it works with > the genpower Debian package and the apc-pnp cable. He doesn't think > the Back-UPS works with apcd (no smart signalling) or with standard > genpower (different cable signals) but he says he could be wrong. All models of APC from the Back-UPS Pro to the Matrix-UPS have the same interface and will work with the custom "apc-advanced" (which I designed) or the "apc-pnp" (standard cable from APC) cables. Both cables have the same dumb-signalling abilities but obviously the "apc-pnp" cable also supports the smart-signalling modes. One further note: The APC UPSs default to dumb-signalling on power-up but retain whatever state they were last put in until they are next power cycled. Thus, if you have a dual-boot system with windows and use the standard APC software, when you boot back to linux, genpower won't be able to talk dumb-signal to the UPS. If you write an "R" to the serial port it will go back to dumb-signalling, but my quick attempts to write a program to do such failed. I believe "apcd" require the older black smart-signalling cable to work, but could be wrong. APC units used to come with both cables, but newer ones may only come with the Plug'n'Play cable. Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- Sticks and stones may break bones, but words will shatter the soul.
Re: Alt Key no longer functions
Just as a follow-up... If I put back my original /etc/X11/Xmodmap file (which has settings to make keyboards with the "Windows" keys work), then emacs recognizes the Alt keys (emacs wants the Meta keysym). Tcsh still doesn't recognize it properly, though... Alt-Backspace prints a garbage character instead of deleting the word. Here is my Xmodmap... keycode 0x73 = Super_L keycode 0x40 = Alt_L Meta_L keycode 0x71 = Alt_R Meta_R keycode 0x74 = Super_R keycode 0x75 = Menu Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- Friends are relatives that you make for yourself.
Alt Key no longer functions
I just upgraded to X 3.3.2.3a-7 and now the Alt key no longer has any effect. Neither emacs or tcsh (under xterm) recognize that it has been pressed. Looking at xkeycaps, pressing Alt does register but doesn't affect the KeyCode, KeySym, or ASCII in any way. Fvwm still recognizes it, though. Any ideas? Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- If you have a 50% chance of guessing right, you'll guess wrong 75% of the time.
Automatic Unzipping?
Can apache automatically decompress files ending in ".gz" and send the uncompressed stream (along with the correct mime-type) over the HTTP connection? Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- Diplomacy is the art of saying "nice doggy!"... until you can find a rock.
Re: Dumping Core on Purpose
> Assuming that forking a "kamakazi" child is not an acceptable > solution, is there some way of capturing the image of the process from > the kernal? Hmmm... That's interesting. Assuming there is no library/system call to force a core dump, I could fork a child and then make the child access mem at 0x to cause a segfault and dump core. Would that work? Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- The squeaky wheel doesn't always get the grease. Sometimes it gets replaced. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: Dumping Core on Purpose
> Yes. use CTRL-\ I've never heard of that. Actually, though... I was looking for the program to dump core when it wanted (rather than at user request) and then be able to keep executing. Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- Don't marry someone you can live with. Marry someone you can't live without. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Dumping Core on Purpose
Is there any way to make a program dump core and then continue execution? Sorta like taking a snap-shot of the current program state. Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- The world is an easier place when it is someone else's fault. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: (RFD) New list proposal - debian-unstable@lists.debian.org
> Currently it seems to me that debian-devel is serving two unrelated > purposes. On the one hand it is a forum for developers to pick each > others brains, and ask opinions of interested debian users. > > On the other hand, it also serves to monitor the status of the frozen and > unstable distributions. The idea of categorizing subjects by making multiple lists (or newsgroups) is always appealing but seldom successful. When the purpose behind a list is not completely separate (and clearly separate, I might add), then people are unsure where to post and then often post to them all. Also, if we assume that people don't subscribe to both, then posting to only one won't reach everyone and so much still be posted to both. For example, every week I have an automated post that tell which release- necessary bugs are still open. I want all developers to see this because I want to encourage fixes from everyone -- not just the maintainers. Thus, I would have to include debian-devel even though it is obviously just for the second list you describe. Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- Premature optimization is the root of all evil. -- Donald Knuth -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ld.so.conf question
> > /usr/X11R6/lib/Xaw95 > > /usr/X11R6/lib/Xaw3d > > /usr/local/lib > > /usr/lib/libc5-compat > > /lib/libc5-compat > > /usr/X11R6/lib > > /usr/X11R6/lib > > /usr/X11R6/lib > > > > Question: Shouldn't /usr/X11R6/lib be before the libc5-compat directory > > Not necessarily. As long as you don't have any duplicate libraries > that aren't tagged properly, it doesn't matter what order they are in. The problem I'm encountering is that linking -lXmu seems to cause the libc5-compat version of libXtk to get included and then I get warnings about libc5/libc6 conflicts. I was wondering if this could be the cause. Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- the difference between theory and practice is less in theory than in practice -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ld.so.conf question
I have the following ld.so.conf file: /usr/X11R6/lib/Xaw95 /usr/X11R6/lib/Xaw3d /usr/local/lib /usr/lib/libc5-compat /lib/libc5-compat /usr/X11R6/lib /usr/X11R6/lib /usr/X11R6/lib Question: Shouldn't /usr/X11R6/lib be before the libc5-compat directory and shouldn't there only be one of them? Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- Touch passion when it comes your way. It's rare enough as it is; don't walk away when it calls you by name. -- Marcus (Babylon 5) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Files in 2 or more packages
> > To make people report these duplications. A lot of bugs have been > > submitted and many of those have been fixed now. The result will be that > > there will be a lot less of these imperfections in hamm when it is > > released. When it is released, --force-overwrite is supposed to be turned > > on again (and off again on the next upload to the new unstable.) > > Is it considered to be an "error" to have a file in 2 different > packages? If that's the case, it would be enough a "script inspection" > at the "Contents" file. Look, for example: > > (...) > usr/man/man8/ftpd.8.gz > net/wu-ftpd,net/netstd > usr/man/man8/ftpshut.8.gz > net/wu-ftpd,net/proftpd,net/wu-ftpd-academ > (...) > usr/man/man8/getclose.8.gz > devel/gnats-user,devel/gnats > (...) Unfortunately, that is insufficient. For example, "gnats" and "gnats-user" are mutually exclusive. Each conflicts with the other. Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- Seize the moment! Live now. Make "now" always the most important time. -- JLP -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Turning on NumLock with X
> > Is there any way to get X to turn on NumLock when it starts up? > > According to the manpage "xset led " should do that. But I > tried it and couldn't get it work. Someone any idea? It was my impression that that simply turned on the led -- it doesn't actually enable NumLock. Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- Touch passion when it comes your way. It's rare enough as it is; don't walk away when it calls you by name. -- Marcus (Babylon 5) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Turning on NumLock with X
Is there any way to get X to turn on NumLock when it starts up? Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- According to my calculations, that problem doesn't exist. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fvwm question: can I make transients take focus?
> Brian> Perhaps it would be best if the transient only automatically > Brian> got focus if its parent already had focus? Perhaps this option > Brian> could be tri-state: never, always, if-parent-has-focus. > > Couls you see if the Next [*] Focus bound to, say, F12 would > solve it for you? I would rather not see the default change. I wasn't thinking of changing the default. In the above idea, the default setting would be "never", which is how it behaves now. Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- Touch passion when it comes your way. It's rare enough as it is; don't walk away when it calls you by name. -- Marcus (Babylon 5) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fvwm question: can I make transients take focus?
> > Is there any way under fvwm2 to make all transient windows automatically get > > focus when they appear? It would be much more convienient than having to > > move the mouse to that window. Perhaps for you, but for me, it's just the opposite. I hate touching the mouse. When I do a "search" in netscape, for example, a transient pops up and then I must move the mouse to that window before I can type anything. This slows me down immensely. I don't think this should be something that is always active, but I would like to be able to enable it. > The problem is that if this happens *as* I'm typing or clicking a > mouse button, the new window gets the event and just might disappear > before I get a chance to read it! "Hmmm, I hope that wasn't too > important..." Who knows what I just denied or agreed to! Other > times, applications might be launched and I suddenly find myself in > the middle of another program with no idea how I got there. At best, > the machine just beeps at me several times. Perhaps it would be best if the transient only automatically got focus if its parent already had focus? Perhaps this option could be tri-state: never, always, if-parent-has-focus. Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- Generated by Signify v1.04. For this and more, visit http://www.verisim.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fvwm question: can I make transients take focus?
> > Is there any way under fvwm2 to make all transient windows automatically get > > focus when they appear? It would be much more convienient than having to > > move the mouse to that window. > > I don't think so. > > You can give focus to any window easily, but the command has to be run > from a function, and there is no function invoked when a window is > captured by fvwm2. > > I'll forward your feature-request to the fvwm mailing list. Hmmm... As long as we're talking about features... Is there a way to cycle through visible windows? I have a virtual desktop (as opposed to multiple desktops) and it would be wonderful if I could cycle between the visible windows without cycling to windows off screen (I have Fn keys to move between screens). In case you hadn't guessed, I'm an "elly" (as in elephant). I really hate using the mouse.As opposed to a "minnie", who really likes mice. Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- Debian GNU/Linux! Search it at http://insite.verisim.com/search/debian/simple -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: netscape install
> > I am ready to install netscape on my system, but have a problem. The > > netscape > > loader is for version 3.01. "ftp.netscape.com" only has version 3.04 or the > > newer communicator 4.0x versions. Version 3.01 is not available. My system > > is > > a bo (1.3.1) system. What can I do to get netscape installed? > > The netscape3 and netscape4 packages in hamm also work for bo systems. > Install them by hand and it will work. Actually, this is no longer true. For "frozen", I did actually compile the minor programs included in the archive against libc6. Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- Touch passion when it comes your way. It's rare enough as it is; don't walk away when it calls you by name. -- Marcus (Babylon 5) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: netscape install
> I am ready to install netscape on my system, but have a problem. The netscape > loader is for version 3.01. "ftp.netscape.com" only has version 3.04 or the > newer communicator 4.0x versions. Version 3.01 is not available. My system is > a bo (1.3.1) system. What can I do to get netscape installed? You'll find installers for both 3.01 and 4.0 under Hamm. It's probably not a good idea to use them, though, without upgrading the rest of your system. Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- Generated by Signify v1.04. For this and more, visit http://www.verisim.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
fvwm question: can I make transients take focus?
Is there any way under fvwm2 to make all transient windows automatically get focus when they appear? It would be much more convienient than having to move the mouse to that window. Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- measure with micrometer, mark with chalk, cut with axe, hope like hell -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
libtiff usage (RGBAImageGet problem)
Does anybody have any experience with the inner workings of libtiff? I'm trying to use the libtiff library, but am having some problems and was wondering if anybody could clarify something... I have a small image with the following information: Image #0: TIFF Directory at offset 0x8 Subfile Type: (0 = 0x0) Image Width: 32 Image Length: 32 Resolution: 1, 1 (unitless) Bits/Sample: 8 Compression Scheme: None Photometric Interpretation: RGB color FillOrder: msb-to-lsb Orientation: row 0 top, col 0 lhs Samples/Pixel: 4 Rows/Strip: 4 Planar Configuration: single image plane When I call TIFFRGBAImageBegin(...), I find that it's setting the "put" routine to be "putRGBcontig8bittile" since img->alpha == 0 due to extrasamples == 0. As far as I can tell, the routine I need to be used is "putRGBAAcontig8bittile". Has the image been encoded wrong (i.e. should "ExtraSamples" be set to non-zero when alpha values are included)? It was written by a major graphics package (Adobe Illustrator or something similar). Have I just misunderstood something in the use of libtiff? Am I making any sense at all? Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- The squeaky wheel doesn't always get the grease. Sometimes it gets replaced. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
fvwm2: can I make transients have focus?
Is there any way under fvwm2 to make all transient windows automatically get focus when they appear? It would be much more convienient than having to move the mouse to that window. Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- measure with micrometer, mark with chalk, cut with axe, hope like hell -- E-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST. Trouble? E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: lynx play sound files
> > hello everyone, I was wondering how to get lynx to play sound files ie > > ..wav and .au? I know it can be done. I think it has to do with a > > ..mailcap file. but i'm not sure. Thanks in advance. > > Paul > > You have to install the mime-support package and of course some audio-player. There is a basic audio player included in the mime-support package. All it does is cat the data out to /dev/audio. Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- Diplomacy is the art of saying "nice doggy!"... until you can find a rock. -- E-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST. Trouble? E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Signify and Pine
> My signify signature's, when used with pine sometimes die completely, and > I am completely frustrated :) And to top it all off, I only sometimes get: > > [1]+ Broken pipe signify --fifo=$HOME/.signature > > I suppose I should mention that I use the fifo option... > Has anyone had something similar happen to them? Or would I be best to use > a cron job and be done with it? I've had it die occasionally, too, and I use netscape3 as a mailer. I wrote Signify, but I have no idea why this sometimes happens. It would be pretty easy to trap the SIGPIPE and just ignore it. Maybe I'll do that. Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- Generated by Signify v1.03. For this and more, visit http://www.verisim.com/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: APC UPS'es
> I am just trying to find out a quikly if the APC UPS is compatible with > Linux. I am not to sure and I don't want to purchase the wrong one for a > client. Sure is! We have 6 APC BackUPS-Pro 650's here (4 workstations and 2 servers) under "genpower" using the "apc-pnp" cable supported by the version in Hamm. They work great! The "apc-pnp" and "apc-advanced" cable types should work on everything from a BackUPS-Pro to a Matrix-UPS. There is also the "apcd" package that uses the smart-signalling mode. I haven't been able to get it to work with the pnp cable that comes with the newer apc shipments. Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- Friends are relatives that you make for yourself. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: How to track hard drive seeks?(more info/questions)
> I attached strace to the update process and it is doing as it says, > sleeps for 5 seconds and then calls bdflush(). I can't watch bdflush > because it is a new process everytime. Have you tried strace with the "-f" option and friends (-o, -ff)? Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- Eschew Obfuscation. (go ahead, look them both up!) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Missing Mouse Drivers
( The following was filed as a bug, but doesn't really belong there since it isn't specific to any package (except possibly kernel-image). Thus, I'm forwarding it to debian-user to see if anybody can help this person. ) Dear Folks, We have just loaded the most recent available version of Linux which I use for running the Genetics Computer Group (GCG) of Wisconsin programs. Everything seems to work fine except that my mouse doesn't work. I have a Logitech Trackball T-CA1- SN: LU519100659. Logitech does not support Linux, so I am stuck. On plugging in a (borrowed) Genius Hi Mouseworks mouse, this works immediately. Is there a separate driver for my trackball or do I have to purchase a new mouse? I am new to this operating system! Any help is highly appreciated. Yours sincerely, John Lowenstein -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Installation writing to Hard Drive error
( This was originally a bug report. I'm forwarding it to debian-user. )
Package: Debian Installation
Version: 1.3
When I try to install Debian GNU/Linux to my machine, every time Debian
tries to write to my hard drive, I get an error. For example, when I am
following the installation program, and I try to partition a hard disk,
before I even get into the cfdisk program (after selecting which drive to
partition), I get the following error:
hda: read_intr: status=0X59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest
Error }
error=0X10 { SectorIdNotFound } CHS
0/0/53 , sector 52
And then after repeating that same message about six or seven times, it
says this:
ide0: reset: success
and then I get the first error six or seven more times, and then the
partitioning program launches. Now, I can continue with the installation
(partition my disk, etc), but whenever it tried to load files from the
floppies to my hard drive, it gives me that first error again. I even
got so far as to loading the fifth base disk, but then I get a "kernel
panic" message and it completely shut down. Is this a program error or
something wrong with my machine? I'm running a Compaq Deskpro 486/25 22
megs RAM and a 650 meg hard drive. I can run DOS 6.2 and Windows and any
other DOS-supported program fine and I've never experienced a similar
error before.
I am using Debian 1.3, kernel version 2.0.29
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Re: UPS again
> Like a dummy, I bought a UPS without bothering to check if genpowerd > supports it (I don't think it does). But before taking it back (I > believe I have a week to do so and it's real stormy now, so I'm glad > to have it anyway), I wanted to ask if anyone knew if I could do > anything with it. > > I bought a MinuteMan 280 Pro UPS. It looks like it has "smart" > features but does not come with a cable or software. It is made by > Para Systems. Is there any Linux software that'll talk to this beast? As far as I know, the only package that supports any kind of smart signalling is the "apcd" package (for APC systems, of course). If your UPS has a dumb-signalling mode, then you can probably build a cable that genpower can drive. Beyond that, though, I can't help you. Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they're not. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Next release of Debian - when?
> > Hamm (Debian 2.0) will be released when we're finished with it. > > what is this "deity" project that i have heard of? i assume it will be > a part of debian 2. Deity is the code-name of the improved package interface. Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- Friends are relatives that you make for yourself. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Removal of debian usenet gateway
> > Just ask and the gateway will be gone. I did this because I thought this > > would be of benefit to the project. If you want to make Debian smaller and > > make it difficult for people to access information about the project then > > that is your problem. > > > > The gateway was set up after approval by Bruce. > > > > On Wed, 10 Dec 1997, Ian Jackson wrote: > > > > > Bruce or Pete: please make an executive decision that our mailing > > > lists are not to be gatewayed to generally-distributed newsgroups. > > > > > > Alternatively, Christoph could just stop, but I doubt he will. > > Is there a problem with them being gatewayed? I find them very useful I believe the complaint is that news makes everyone's email address published and thus everyone tends to get more spam. I should be releasing a "spam filter" packages into experimental within the next few days. That should help some people. Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- Generated by Signify v1.03. For this and more, visit http://www.verisim.com/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: GPC
> > This is a request for some feedback from current and potential users of > GPC. > > I have GPC 2.0 compiled for hamm, built using GCC 2.7.2.3. The next > > version of GPC (currently 971001) is in beta, but is already more stable > > than GPC 2.0. There seems to be a few possibilities available. I could > > package GPC 2.0, GPC 971001 beta, both versions, or wait until GPC 971001 > > beta is released as GPC 2.1. Let me know your preferences, if any, within > > the next few of days and I will then decide which course of action to take. > > I'd say package 2.1 beta, into unstable and 2.0 as stable. Then > update the beta package when GPC get's released. > > I have a few pascal programs, that would be nice to compile on Linux > and I'd want to use 2.1 as it is more complete than 2.0. Upload the beta version into "experimental". Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- Management should work for the engineers, not the other way around. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: ld.so linking conflict
> > then I get the warning: > > > > ld: warning: libdl.so.2, needed by /usr/lib/libtk8.0.so, may conflict with > > libdl.so.1 > > > > I have been unable to find where this "libdl.so.1" is coming from since the > > "dl" libraries are: > > You probably have a left over link in /lib. Perhaps you 'forced' > something that conflicts with libdl1-dev. Thanks. I'll check into that. Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- Management should work for the engineers, not the other way around. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
ld.so linking conflict
When trying to link using libc6 and tcl8, I can no longer include "-ldl" on the link line without getting an error. If I have [...] -ltcl8.0 -lm -lnsl then it links okay. If I have [...] -ltcl8.0 -lm -lnsl -ldl then I get the warning: ld: warning: libdl.so.2, needed by /usr/lib/libtk8.0.so, may conflict with libdl.so.1 I have been unable to find where this "libdl.so.1" is coming from since the "dl" libraries are: dragon:/usr/lib> ll libdl* -rw-r--r-- 1 root6990 Oct 5 01:16 libdl.a lrwxrwxrwx 1 root 20 Nov 24 13:56 libdl.so -> ../../lib/libdl.so.2* Any suggestions would be appreciated! Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- Generated by Signify v1.03. For this and more, visit http://www.verisim.com/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
New Deity Members
The Deity team is still looking for a couple more members to help with implementation. If you'd like to help, please send me some mail with your experience and qualifications. Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- Touch passion when it comes your way. It's rare enough as it is; don't walk away when it calls you by name. -- Marcus (Babylon 5) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Deity Access
Thanks to Jason building a libc5 verison of the new CVS (with read-only patches), I've now made the Deity source archive available to everyone. To get it, go to the directory you want to place the source and do the following: cvs -d :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/cvs login (password: anonymous) cvs -d :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/cvs co deity >From then on, you can just go into the deity directory and do "cvs update" to get the latest version of the source. The deity mailing list is also available publicly in digest format. You can subscribe, I assume, by sending mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they're not. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Stable means not-changing?
> Please tell me: Does stable mean not-changing or not-segfaulting?
For the most part, it means "non-changing". While it would be nice to
fix each package with a problem, doing so always runs the risk of breaking
other packages on the system. Verifying the integrity of the system as a
whole is far more difficult than verifying a single package. For this reason,
updates to "stable" are rare.
They are especially rare in this case because Hamm marks such a major change
(with libc6 and all). Thus, fixes are very hard to propogate back to Bo
and are in even more danger of breaking the larger picture.
Brian
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Re: 'tell' is missing from libc6
> > It appears the "tell(path)" command is missing from libc6. What
> > should I be using instead?
>
> The only "tell" that I could find in libc-5.4.33 is the following one:
>
> file sysdeps/linux/tell.c:
>
> off_t
> tell (int fildes)
> {
> return __lseek (fildes, 0, SEEK_CUR);
> }
That's the one.
> If that is the right function the replacement should be obvious using
> the syscall lseek, but you should prefer the use of ftell on FILE* if
> possible.
In this case, I don't have a FILE*; only a path number.
> If this is the wrong function you should tell us what tell(path)
> is doing, I haven't heard of such a function yet.
To quote "C: The Complete Reference" (by Herbert Shildt):
The function "tell()" is part of the UNIX-like I/O system and is not
defined by the ANSI standard.
Thus, I think libc6 should include it. It appears that libc6 now includes
a manpage for "ltell" (which, I agree, is what the function should have been
named in the first place). However, for compatibility reasons, there should
be a "#define tell(a,b,c) ltell(a,b,c)" in .
Can anybody confirm if "ltell" exists in libc5?
Brian
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Re: HELP: problems compiling wine
> I tried it with MS-Word 6.0c, MS-Excel and Matlab > 4.2c (all 16bit applications) and they run to my satisfaction. > I have not tested them thorougly but I am quite impressed already. You got Word-6 to run under it? Wow! I never been able to get it to run ever under the 9708xx versions. Excel runs pretty well, though it does crash occasionally. Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- Generated by Signify v1.02. For this and more, visit http://www.verisim.com/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
'tell' is missing from libc6
It appears the "tell(path)" command is missing from libc6. What should I be using instead? Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- the difference between theory and practice is less in theory than in practice -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
top doesn't understand multiple processors
When running top on my 2 cpu machine, I get some interesting states: 12:12pm up 18:03h, 5 users, load average: 1.52, 0.76, 0.49 65 processes: 61 sleeping, 4 running, 0 zombie, 0 stopped CPU states: 90.2% user, 107.5% system, 0.9% nice, 0.0% idle Mem: 128044K av, 110520K used, 17524K free, 37088K shrd, 42576K buff Swap: 129020K av, 0K used, 129020K free 30244K cached The total is approximately 200%, which makes sense. Is there anything to be done about this? Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- Touch passion when it comes your way. It's rare enough as it is; don't walk away when it calls you by name. -- Marcus (Babylon 5) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
SMP CMP Usage?
Is there any way I can tell how each CPU on a multi-processor system is being used? Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- Generated by Signify v1.02. For this and more, visit http://www.verisim.com/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Setting X mouse responsiveness
> >How can I adjust the responsiveness of the mouse under X? Right now I > >almost have to move the mouse half way across the room to cross the > >screen? It's a PS/2 mouse. > > > >I've adjusted (lowered) the resposiveness under GPM. Could that be affecting > >things in X? X is accessing the mouse directly, not via the GPM repeater. > > I have a similar problem. I am using the gpm repeater(/dev/gpmdata) > to pass the input of two pointers, a keypad pointer(/dev/ttyS0) and a > mouse(/dev/psaux) to gpm and X. The pointer is more responsive so I > have lowered it with gpm and that works find under the tty's. > > gpm -m /dev/psaux -t ps2 -M -m /dev/ttyS0 -t ms -r 2 > > However X does not seem to pay attention to what gpm has set for the > pointer responsiveness so the cursor is super sensitive with the > pointer and normal with the mouse. As I suspected, if X reads the mouse directly (and it does unless you are using it with GPM's "repeater" mode, the settings made via GPM won't affect X. The "xset m " command (in your .xsession) works pretty well, though. Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- Generated by Signify v1.02. For this and more, visit http://www.verisim.com/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: vacation program
> I think there was recently a discussion about this, but I > deleted it as I wasn't interested at the time. > > I'm looking to provide a simple system generated Email reply to > a specific address ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). I wish to send a > simple message :- Thankyou for your enquiry I'm available in 3 > days time .. > > I've experimented with the vacation program supplied on the > Debian 1.2 CD, but when modifying the .forward file as indicated > in the vacation man page, I get a pipe error (whatever program I > try and forward to). What did you put in your .forward file? Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- Generated by Signify v1.02. For this and more, visit http://www.verisim.com/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Setting X mouse responsiveness
How can I adjust the responsiveness of the mouse under X? Right now I almost have to move the mouse half way across the room to cross the screen? It's a PS/2 mouse. I've adjusted (lowered) the resposiveness under GPM. Could that be affecting things in X? X is accessing the mouse directly, not via the GPM repeater. Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- Diplomacy: the art of letting someone have your own way. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Using the X with ATI Pro Turbo
> Has anybody had any success in running X with an "ATI 3D Graphics Pro Turbo" > video card? I'm having great difficulty getting it to display on my > monitor. > > - 1600x1200 mode isn't available (too low dot-clock), > - 1280x1024 doesn't display (screen stays black) > - 1024x768 runs (doesn't sync) > - 800x600 runs (doesn't sync) > - 640x480 repeats (gives the right have of the screen twice more) > > I'm using a 21" ViewSonic P810 monitor. All these modes work fine > under Win95. > > I've tried everything I can think of. Commenting out the higher speed > modes in XF86Config has no effect. Changing h/v sync has no effect. > > Does anybody have any ideas? Just to provide a little more information... The card works fine in VGA16 mode (if you call 640x480 "fine"). Under the SVGA driver, it has the same problems as describe above, more or less. Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- Seize the moment! Live now. Make "now" always the most important time. -- JLP -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Using the X with ATI Pro Turbo
Has anybody had any success in running X with an "ATI 3D Graphics Pro Turbo" video card? I'm having great difficulty getting it to display on my monitor. - 1600x1200 mode isn't available (too low dot-clock), - 1280x1024 doesn't display (screen stays black) - 1024x768 runs (doesn't sync) - 800x600 runs (doesn't sync) - 640x480 repeats (gives the right have of the screen twice more) I'm using a 21" ViewSonic P810 monitor. All these modes work fine under Win95. I've tried everything I can think of. Commenting out the higher speed modes in XF86Config has no effect. Changing h/v sync has no effect. Does anybody have any ideas? Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- Generated by Signify v1.02. For this and more, visit http://www.verisim.com/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Background NFS Mounts
I'm having a problem with my computer hanging for large amounts of time when it is not connected to the network because of some NFS mounts it does. I've tried adding options so it would try this in the background instead of holding up the boot, but no luck. Here is what I have now... ### # # Network filesystem mounts # ftp:/home/ftp /home/ftp nfs bg,soft,intr,posix cvs:/var/cvs/var/cvsnfs bg,soft,intr,posix home:/home/verisim /home/verisim nfs bg,soft,intr,posix fax:/var/spool/fax /var/spool/fax nfs bg,soft,intr,posix gnats:/export/gnats /var/lib/gnats nfs bg,soft,intr,posix gate:/export/share /usr/share nfs bg,soft,intr,posix Can anybody offer any advice? Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- You can never be too good looking or too well equipped. -- Dilbert -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Upgrading Netscape Installer
> I really like the netscape installer package and used it many months ago to > get netscape working. I have 3.01-1 currently installed. > > So far, when dselect tells me there is an update available on the netscape > package, I've placed it on hold. However, I was wondering if it is > safe/needed/possible to update the deb package without having to DL the > netscape binary again? Normally, yes. The netscape installer automatically tries to use the already existing files. However, the fix to netscape for bash 2.0 only appeared in v3.01-7 or there abouts, so that fix will not be installed unless you re-dl the original archive. If you don't care about that (or are using bash 2.01), then you should just be able to upgrade the package without any problems. Let me know how it goes. Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- You can never be too good looking or too well equipped. -- Dilbert -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Clarification: Netscape install probs
> OK. I guess I should have been clearer; I HAVE renamed the file, and > put it in /tmp. I then run "dpkg -i netscape_3.01-4.deb" and get the > error above. I think that I may have in fact slightly misinterpreted > the error at first; it seems to be generated by the *post*installation > script. It seems that dpkg is installing whatever supporting files and > creating whatever necessary directories and subdirectories, and then > must be choking on the tar archive, even though I've renamed it and put > it in the proper place. When I try running Netscape from within an X > session using fvwm's built-in application menu, nothing happens. When I > invoke it from the command line, I get the following error: Do a "ls -l /tmp" and make sure the name matches exactly (and ends in either .tar, .tar.Z, or .tar.gz -- whichever is appropriate for the archive). > /usr/bin/X11/netscape: /usr/lib/netscape/netscape: No such file or > directory > /usr/bin/X11/netscape: exec: /usr/lib/netscape/netscape: cannot execute: > No such file or directory > > Here is the text of the script /usr/lib/netscape/netscape: > > #!/bin/sh > > export MALLOC_CHECK_=0 > export > NPX_PLUGIN_PATH=$HOME/.netscape/plugins:/usr/local/lib/netscape/plugins:/usr/lib/netscape/plugins > > exec /usr/lib/netscape/netscape "$@" > > If anyone has any ideas about what's going on with the installer, or how > I can fix this, please let me know. I did unpack the archive myself at > one point by hand (before I found out about the installer package) using > gunzip and tar, and when I ran the netscape executable, I got the same > error message (/usr/lib/netscape/netscape: no such file or directory). > I therefore think that there's nothing wrong with the archive itself > (aside from having been renamed at one point). And yes, I have tried > transferring the files again to get a pristine copy of the archive on > the machine. You are correct. That error is generated by the netscape package postinst. Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- Lottery: a tax on people who are bad at math -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Linux in Wired
There was a decent article about Linux in the latest issue of Wired. It was honest and fair, in my opinion, and Linux came out looking really good. Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- Generated by Signify v1.02. For this and more, visit http://www.verisim.com/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: [Performance] 386vs486 compilation
> > From: Jason Gunthorpe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Have you ever seen numbers for running Pentium code on a 486 and 386 vs > > > native code? > > > > I think the Pentium code generator now uses Pentium-specific instructions. > > Before then, Pentium code on 386 and 486 sometimes ran faster than the 386 > > and 486 code, because it avoided some instructions that turned out to be > > slow. > > Yes, this is what I usually hear about most compilers. P5 Code runs as > fast or faster on 486's. What GCC needs is a to have the 486 generator > perform pentium optimizations and not use pentium/386 instructions. Then > we could compile everything for this. The speed hit on a pentium would > drop on alot of apps and the 486/386 would not have any hit.. Forgive me for picking a nit... The reason P5-optimized code runs faster on a 486 than 486-optimized code has to do with the much improved general optimizations of the P5 code generator. Logically, 486-optimized code will _always_ run faster on a 486 than P5-optimized code. If that is not the case, then the 486-optimized code wasn't optimal after all. > I wonder what instructions gcc uses on the 586, I don't recall seeing that > many usefull ones for general purpose stuff.. Last I heard, gcc didn't use anything but instructions available on the 386. Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- Give others some insight into YOUR pages! http://www.verisim.com/insite/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: [Performance] 386vs486 compilation
> It just dawned on me that all intel packages must be compiled for 386 to > make them intel platform-independant. I am wondering how much of a > performance boost can be had by recompiling them for 486 or pentium. 10% improvement would probably be about the maximum. While 10% is the point where things start becoming significant, it would only make any noticeable difference on a couple packages, so I don't think it's worth it in general. > While it is probably a waste of disk space to have trees for each type of > CPU (i386, i486, i586), it MIGHT be worthwhile to have a kernal binary for > each target if a performance boost can be gotten. For any type of performance system, people should build their own kernels anyway, in my opinion. Also, because of the nice way Debian source builds itself, anyone can easily recompile any package that they want the extra speed boost on. Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they're not. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Show me the money Re: Donations to Debian
> > Why change the version numbering scheme? It is a small change, it makes > > sense for marketing reasons, it is easy to do, and there was no reason not > > to do it. We're not holding up releases because of it. > > I suppose all 67 megs in bo-updates is being held there for some other > reason? Actually, it's there because I've been on vacation. Also, most of the disk space is being used by one package set: x3.3 Now that I'm almost caught up at work, perhaps I can spend a little more time on coordinating how we're going to incorporate the necessary changes into Debian 1.3. Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they're not. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: cfengine question?
> Would some please show me what is wrong with the following > cfengine that is sent to my 'root' every day: Check the log file under /var/log to see if there is more information there. If not, try running cfengine by hand to see if it provides more information that way. Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they're not. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Debian Releases (was: Show me the money)
> > And choosing a simple, consistent, and comprehensible release naming scheme > > is such an issue. Hambone, bopeep, 1.3.1, and now revision 2... all > > very confusing. I've been trying to convince the people in the seul > > project to use Debian: they think Debian is flaky. I like Debian. I use > > Debian. I'd contribute if I had the resources. But I'm beginning to agree > > with them. > > Good point, John. It seems that the sugar-coated explanation still doesn't > taste very good. Hey, users who are listening - Debian 1.3.3 is out but > it's still called 1.3.1 so nobody who buys those CD sets will feel > inferior? We need someone with a Ph.D. in policy analysis to convince us > that it really does taste good. Why don't we just call it Debian GNU/Linux > 1.3.1.your_lucky_number? You're correct that Debian has had trouble "doing things right the first time", but I don't think this is a unique problem. I just think that Debian tries to fix it too quickly and thus has to fix it again and again. Let's make sure that we have a plan at least most people can agree on before we implement it. That will help a lot with the "flaky" problem. As for "1.3.3", as V.P.Engineering, I've authorized _nothing_ since the release of 1.3.1. What is in bo-updates are just candidates for the next release that the testing group has to approve. Prehaps I was mistaken in arguing for the bo-updates directory to be made public. I thought it would help ensure packages were better tested, but it seems to just be adding to the confusion of it all. Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they're not. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Show me the money Re: Donations to Debian
> >> >my company uses Debian very seriously so I think is very fair to help the > >> >project with donations. I have just bought 2 "Official Debian 1.3.1 CD's" > >> >from LSL and I chose the product that includes a 5 dollar donation to the > >> >Debian project. > >> > >> And since I am in such a pissed off mood over these version number let's > >> start on these > >> donations. Where do they go and what are they used for? > > > >Personally, I'm glad to see Debian become a little more organized > >and getting incorporated. > > They didn't need to get incorpoated to become more orginized. The United > States or > any one of them has no interest in our international communal project. No, but others may. Incorproration is done mainly for protection. It makes a group an independant entity such that the people who work for it do not have to be jointly and severally liable for everything the group does. We may be an international organization, but that doesn't make one immune from attacks. > >It means that Debian can start paying it's > >own bills instead of people like Bruce going out of pocket to pay > >for the internic domain fees. > > Then tell him to rep a few CD-R's out and not pander an 'official' CD to high > volume > leach cookie cutters. Please. You make it sound like making some changes to increase Debian's viability in the world is a bad thing. > >On top of that, not everyone can donate time or resourses, but they can > >contribute money. > > To who? Am I a part of Debian.org? Do I have a vote.even if I maintain 50 > packages?? You'll seethe cash will lead to bills created by the corp, > that in turn > will create more bills, and there by creating a relience on direct finacial > support. > > The point is you CAN'T just donate money to Debian. 'Debian' is the efforts of > several hundred people; it's not a physical thing. But it is a logical entity. There are central costs. This is what the money goes to. > Were you asked if you wanted the version control change? No, we we're told > that it > was going to be changed, and purely for the sake of appesment of the larger CD > makers. Debian is not about profit. The orginizes should not be worrying > about it > how many cd's they get sent outit obviously is interfering with the > technical > aspects of the project. It's not interfering with anything. Debian developers primarily concentrate on "unstable". We're just trying to make "stable" a little more stable. > >Personally I think you're blowing things way out of proportion simply > >because you can't have things your way. Venting this anger by > >trying to imply that donated money is somehow being mispent is just > >plain childish. Grow up. > > Sidetracking the issue insults my intellegence. Fuck you. You do realize that you just proved Behan's point, right? It was, after all, you who originally sidetracked the issue. Let me quote you from above... > >> And since I am in such a pissed off mood over these version number let's > >> start on these > >> donations. Where do they go and what are they used for? Now, let's all play nice and try to keep the "bad language" and name calling to a minimum. Disagreement is fine, but losing one's temper accomplishes nothing but make people fight against you just for the sake of fighting. Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- Generated by Signify v1.02. For this and more, visit http://www.verisim.com/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: pine/netscape sharing mail files
> I looked at the pine and netscape mail files and they appear to be in the > same format, except netscape has a summary file for each file. Would it > be safe to have procmail deliving mail to a shared mailbox file that > netscape and pine are reading (and have netscape or pine open)? I use procmail and a custom movemail script to deliver mail directly into Netscape's mail boxes. There are the following problems: - writing directly to netscape's Inbox is bad. - summaries are regenerated automatically if the mailbox is newer than the summary. - when regenerating summaries, deleted (but not removed by "compressing") mail reappears. Note: This is with netscape v3. v4 works different but since I don't like the new mail interface, I don't use v4. Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- You can never be too good looking or too well equipped. -- Dilbert -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: signify
> Does anybody know how to use signify with pine? I've copied one example > as my .signify in my $HOME dir., but I'm clueless on how to make it work > with pine. The easiest way to do this is to add a command like sh -c "signify --fifo=$HOME/.signature &" to your .login file. However, somebody said that pine didn't like this, so perhaps you could try adding signify >! $HOME/.signature instead. That will change the signature each time you log on instead of generating a new signature each time. Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- It's not the days in your life, but the life in your days that counts. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Re.: Re: Netscape Navigator doesn't come up unless -iconic
> Thank you for your response. It is this: > > Netscape 3.01/export, 20-Oct-96; (c) 1995,1996 Netscape Communications Corp. Did you install this with the Debian package? If so, which revision of the package? Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- Generated by Signify v1.02. For this and more, visit http://www.verisim.com/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Netscape Navigator doesn't come up unless -iconic
Alan Eugene Davis wrote: > > Something happened to my system so that Netscape Navigator will not > show on the X screen. If I start netscape a second time, I get a > message that it is already running. If I start it as "netscape > -iconic&" it establishes an icon, and I can now open. > > Does this ring any bells? What version of netscape are you running? Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- Debian GNU/Linux! Search it at http://insite.verisim.com/search/debian/simple -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: apcd -- 3 Cheers!!!
> Just when I thought it was safe to throw away my APC Smart UPS along > comes apcd. Bravo. APC is also supported by the Genpower package. It only does dumb signalling, but can use the Plug-n-Play cable that comes with the APC units these days. Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- Generated by Signify v1.02. For this and more, visit http://www.verisim.com/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Netscape 3.01 off-line
> I know that I've used Netscape 3.01 off-line before to read documents... > now whenever I try to run it while not connected to my ISP, it simply > hangs. One time it even locked out my other X apps.. I had to kill the > server. Sounds like the home page is trying to be loaded. The hang-up is actually in libc when it tries to look up the hostname to get the ip address. If you wait a few minutes, it should time-out and netscape should then be operational. Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- Give others some insight into YOUR pages! http://www.verisim.com/insite/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: netscape-beta Package
> I'm just curious what happened to the netscape-beta package. I can't seem to > find it tho it is listed in the search at www.debian.org. I removed it because it doesn't work the the latest releases. I have a new package I'll upload as soon as I get a chance to test it. Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- Generated by Signify v1.02. For this and more, visit http://www.verisim.com/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: dselect through a firewall?
> I'm trying to get my girlfriend's Debian machine updated to 1.3 but so far > its been a real pain because she is behind a corporate firewall and I have > to manually ftp the files. Is there any way to configure deselect to go > through the firewall? Dftp was able to go through firewalls with FTP proxies. I haven't personally used that code in well over a year, but it's probably still functional. Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- the difference between theory and practice is less in theory than in practice -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Netscape 3.x mail
> Downloaded and installed Netscape, excelent install, I commend > the writer of that package. Thanks! > Anyway, it won't send mail. I get "FCC file not found". > > Not being one to believe too seriously in every conspiricy theory > I run accross in alt.conspiricy.black-helocopters, do tell what > is this "FCC file"? You probably have a preference saying "Save copy of all messages in ". This is represented in the Netscape headers as "FCC:" (like "BCC:"). Make sure that that mail folder exists. Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- I can resist anything except temptation. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: apcupsd, genpower, and PowerShute(TM) "Black" cable.
> Sorry to ask for a recap, but I missed the beginning of this thread...
> So to ask probably already answered questions: What is the correct
> genpower (or... dangit can't rememebr the other UPS package) cable-type
> for the PowerShute "Black" cable that comes with the APCs?
Genpower does not support the black cable because genpower uses dumb-
signalling and the black cable has only enough wires for the smart-signalling
mode. The new genpower (1.0.1-4) does support the grep "plug-n-play"
cable, though ("apc-pnp")!
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Re: /var/log/messages not world-readable anymore?
> Dum> and voila! I could no longer tail -f my logs. Bummer. > > Can't you just add yourself to the log (or whatever) group, then? It's actually "adm", but this seems the best solution. Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- measure with micrometer, mark with chalk, cut with axe, hope like hell -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Where's the package for netscape communicator
> There used to be a package, netscape-beta, that could be used to install > communicator, it's gone now. Is there a reason it disappeared. I removed it because it doesn't work for beta-5 and above. I have a fixed version I just need to test for a bit before uploading. Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- If at first you don't succeed, so much for skydiving. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Diety contacts? (was Re: Dselect replacement?)
> Next question and then I'll hopefully shut up for a day or two about this > topic :-) > > Does anyone know where I can get in contact with the people and/or the > product of the Diety project? I checked www.debian.org's web site and > didn't find anything, and am not going to even bother with an altavista > web search for the word Diety. You can write to us at [EMAIL PROTECTED] We're always happy to hear suggestions and ideas. Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- If you have a 50% chance of guessing right, you'll guess wrong 75% of the time. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Wine and xpm
> Wait - you're saying that creating a new "updated" debian package for wine > 1.0 would be to apply win-1.0*.diff to the .deb? The diffs for the Debian source contain nothing but the Debian directory. Thus, you can patch any version of the wine source and probably build it without any changes (other than to debian/changelog to get the version number correct). I should mention that the version of Wine currently in project/experimental can run Excel quite reliably (from whatever version of office that included word 6.0 for Win3.1). Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- `My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings: Look upon my works, ye Mighty, and despair!' Nothing besides remains. Round the decay of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare, the lone and level sands stretch far away. -- Shelly -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Wine and xpm
> I'm trying to compile wine ... we don't seem to have a package for it, > understandable, since it's only in alpha at the moment. There is a package for wine under project/experimental. I maintain it. Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- the difference between theory and practice is less in theory than in practice -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: apcupsd, genpower, and PowerShute(TM) "Black" cable.
> I choose to run shutdown by itself because I had to assure that the last > action on master is to shut down the ups. Instead I should probably follow > the genpower approach and supply a small program that does this from the > command line. I worked with Miquel about this when building the genpower package. Now, this is done as the final action of "halt"... callandor:~> tail /etc/init.d/halt mount -n -o remount,ro / # See if we need to cut the power. if [ -x /etc/init.d/ups-monitor ] then /etc/init.d/ups-monitor poweroff fi halt -d -f Any UPS monitoring package should provide the virtual package "ups-monitor" and provide an /etc/init.d/ups-monitor script. Genpower just has this as a link to the genpower script in init.d. > Apart from this, apcd is ready as a debian package but I didn't find the > time to upload it, feed the changes back to the upstream maintainer, etc. > > Whoever wants this package, drop me an email. If nobody else wants it, I'll take it. (but only if nobody else wants it -- I'm pretty swamped) Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they're not. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Is there anything more unstable than Netscape??
> Since I get on average about 10 fatal crashes of netscape a > day, when combined with the flaky behavior, I'd say that > Netscape for linux is the most unstable but working application > I've ever seen. I run netscape 3.01 for days at a time without problems. (Hint: never hit "get new mail" while "send everything in Outbox"). Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- Premature optimization is the root of all evil. -- Donald Knuth -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: apcupsd, genpower, and PowerShute(TM) "Black" cable.
> I have just tried to get two APC Smart UPS v/s 650s up and running in my > department but unfortunately, genpower does not support the cable, a black > PowerShute(TM) cable with serial number 940-0024C. Genpower 1.0.1-4 does have support for the Win95 "Plug-n-Play" cable (serial number 940-0095A). > However, when I ran gentest in every way possible > using the black cable, there was no signal at all. The black cable you mention does not have sufficient wires for the dumb signalling method used by genpower. The black cable is essentially nothing more than a TxD/RxD dumb modem between the UPS and the computer and some loopback to make sure the computer's serial port is happy. > 1) Does anyone know how I can figure out a new cable specification for the >940-0024C when gentest and statserial are no help? Cable Computer ~ 2 RxD 2 TxD 3 TxD 1 RxD 5 GND 9 GND 4 DTR, 1 DCD 7 RTS, 8 CTS > 2) I have found another non-debian package called apcupsd which does >support this cable and most other APC cables. It also supports smart >mode which is not supported in genpower. Moreover, it is GPLd. I would >be happy to package this for debian if there is no objections/some >demand. I tried using "apcd" at one point which supported smart-signalling. Unfortunately, it did system shutdown itself instead of telling the system to shut down and this was unacceptable. Using the PnP cable, genpower is exactly what I need. Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- Give others some insight into YOUR pages! http://www.verisim.com/insite/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Netscape bug: Newbies using root
> > It is stated very clearly in documentation all over that you should > > run as root as little as possible... Besides, it is common sense. > > When I first taught myself Unix, this was impressed on me very > > clearly. The Linux NAG and SAG mention it, I'm sure, as do some > > various HOWTOs. > > gee, in my case it was fear :) It took so long to do the initial > installation on the first machine (the pre 1.1 kernel would hang on > alternate boots on my hardware, among other things), i wasn't going to > reisk *anything* . . . I'll put something in the wrapper script that won't let netscape run as root. Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- It's not the days in your life, but the life in your days that counts. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: striping, etc.
> They will go on a machine with 3 200m ide drives, which will be a poor-man's > server. My current thinking is to mount / on the first controller, and > use the other pair as /usr on the second interface. /usr will be NFS > exported. Or would I be better off putting the two /usr drives on > separate controllers? I'd think it was better to mount them across separate controllers. With seperate control and data lines, the kernel can issue two simultaneous requests and get data from both at the same time. My understanding with IDE (and EIDE) is that a single controller can only access a single drive at a time and must wait for that request to finish before issuing another. SCSI is a more sophisticated in that it allows a request to be issued and then the bus to idle (for more requests or other data) until the drive finishes processing the request and can blast back the data. This is why SCSI is much better than EIDE when dealing with more than one drive. (At least, this is my understanding... Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong.) Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- Debian GNU/Linux! Search it at http://insite.verisim.com/search/debian/simple -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: bizarre netscape behavior
> I've now had this happen twice. When i install netscape, it works. The > next day, however, i get a message that I have 3.00 resources instead of > 3.01. Do i need a daily install? :)There has never been any other > netscape on this installation; just the *deb file from unstable, and the > *tgz file from netscape Do you have any cron jobs that make modifications to your system over night? Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- Generated by Signify v1.02. For this and more, visit http://www.verisim.com/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: how to get apple2 deb package working?
> Has anybody got this emulator working? All i get when i try and > boot something is a bunch of '@' signs filling up the screen and nothing > after that. I'm running 1.3, kernel 2.0.29, and have a matrox if it's > pertinent. I use it without any problems. What apple disk are you using? Are you running it as root? (You have to be root in order for svgalib to work unless you make the binary suid root.) Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they're not. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: why so many broken links when installing 1.3?
> ./ns-install: line 289: 15565 Broken pipe tar -cf - ${i}
> 15566 Done| ( cd ${TARGET}/java/classes; tar
> -xf - )
This is a bug in the tar available in Bo. It's supposedly been fixed
in the version in Hamm.
> I also found that netscape 4.0 installer have a similar problem and the
> netscape binary is not installed properly.
The communicator install script changed with beta5 and I haven't had a
chance to update the installer yet.
Brian
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Re: netscape
> I have just upgraded my netscape and I seem to have a problem, which I > hope you may help me resolve. I seemed to have a problem with my > java_301 therefore I purged the old package. Downloaded new one and now > I seem to have pa problem (I think it still relates to java problem). I > get this report "canntot allocate cocormap entry for default background. > Can you help? There was a big thread on this just last week on debian-user. Try adding the options "-visual PseudoColor -install" and see if that helps. Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- Give others some insight into YOUR pages! http://www.verisim.com/insite/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Netscape 3.01 128bit
> > For the record and mailing list archive; > > The 128bit versions of Netscape 3.01 and 3.01Gold do work with > > the currect Debian install package. > >Would you happen to know if the latest beta (communicator-v40b5*) will > work with the *.deb install shell? Apparently not. It's on my list of things to do. Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- Debian GNU/Linux! Search it at http://insite.verisim.com/search/debian/simple -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Netscape 3.01 128bit version ?
> Does the installer for Netscape/gold 3.01 work with the 128bit version ? > I'll have to rename promise.cgi to what the installer wants. I've never tried it. If the filenames within the archive are the same, then it should. Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- Engineering: measure with a micrometer, mark with chalk, cut with an axe -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
