Re: su su- sudo dont work

[Byung-Hee HWANG]

On Sat, 2024-01-20 at 13:26 +, Schwibinger Michael wrote:
> 
> Good afternoon.
> Root terminal is fine.
> What do I do wrong?
> What did I destroy?
> 
> 
> PC does have only one user=admin.
> 
> 
> Regards Sophie
> Is it the rescue mode?

Hellow Sophie,

English is not my native language. Sometimes i use Korean mailing list
for me. Because i am Korean and i feel hard to write/speak English.


I guess English is not your native language. There is a German-only Q&A
mailing. See  please.


Es gibt ein Q&A-Mailing nur auf Deutsch.

Schau hier:



Sincerely, Byung-Hee from South Korea

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Re: Temporary failure in name resolution

[Byung-Hee HWANG]

On Fri, Jan 12, 2024 at 11:24:53AM +, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote:
> Curt  wrote:
> > On 2024-01-11, Max Nikulin  wrote:
> > >
> > > There was a thread that "home" as the top level domain might not be 
> > > really safe (somebody might register it). A reserved domain is 
> > > "home.arpa" so e.g. to have "thinkpad", the /etc/hosts entry should
> > > be
> > >
> > > 127.0.1.1   thinkpad.home.arpa thinkpad
> > >  
> > 
> >  The .arpa domain is the “Address and Routing Parameter Area” domain
> > and is designated to be used exclusively for Internet-infrastructure
> >  purposes.
> > 
> > https://www.iana.org/domains/arpa
> 
> Indeed, and a little way down that page it says:
> 
>   home.arpa For non-unique use in residential home networks
> RFC 8375
> 

Oh thanks for information!


Sincerely, Byung-Hee

Re: Could we please cease this thread now? [WAS Re: lists]

[Byung-Hee HWANG]

On Thu, 2023-12-21 at 10:12 -0500, Pocket wrote:
> 
> On 12/21/23 09:46, Brad Rogers wrote:
> > On Thu, 21 Dec 2023 09:25:26 -0500
> > Pocket  wrote:
> > 
> > Hello Pocket,
> > 
> > >  Forwarded Message 
> > Putting a private message on the list, without sender's consent, is
> > very
> > rude indeed.  Given that it was announced by sender beforehand that
> > they
> > would reply privately, I'm absolutely certain they did not agree to
> > the
> > message being forwarded here.
> > 
> > May you live in interesting times. (ancient insult)
> 
> Then don't hit and hide.
> 


Hellow Pocket,

You kicked someone who was trying to help you. Let's stop everything
here. I'm going to have coffee.


Sincerely, Byung-Hee

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Re: Could we please cease this thread now? [WAS Re: lists]

[Byung-Hee HWANG]

On Thu, 2023-12-21 at 07:35 -0500, Pocket wrote:
> 
> On 12/21/23 06:32, Andy Smith wrote:
> > On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 05:44:23AM -0500, Pocket wrote:
> > > Maybe I should not post at all?
> > Unless you are able to do better at it, that is a solution that I
> > for one am in favour of.
> > 
> > Andy
> 
> 
> So I see that I am not welcome here.
> 

Hellow Pocket,

Gmane is good to reading emails of mailing lists like as
debian-user@l.d.o. Also if you want to post someting, you can do that
via Gmane.

For now i am reading emails by Gmane (Gnome Evolution). And i am
writing in Gmane (Gnome Evolution).

If you use Gmane, actually you will be free from SMTP issues.

And Welcome to the Debian INDEED ^^^


Sincerely, Byung-Hee from South Korea

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Re: AW: AW: Part II dd copy destroyed DVD

[Byung-Hee HWANG]

Schwibinger Michael  writes:

> Sorry for bad English.
>
> I try again.
>
> I did burn a DVD.
>
> I try to copy the DVD to HD.
>
> mc ist not accepting the DVD.
>
> DD same.
>
> Shall I use ddrescue.
>
> Regards 
>
> Sorry for been so much stupid.
>

Hellow Sophie!

First you check that your DVD is OK.

Then copy it ...

(Genau wie Sie ist Englisch nicht meine Muttersprache.)


Sincerely, Byung-Hee (South Korea)

Re: Debian archive rsync service changed

[Byung-Hee HWANG]

On Fri, Nov 24, 2023 at 08:13:03AM -0500, Dan Ritter wrote:
> In case people didn't see the announcment:
> --
> 
> The worldwide Debian mirrors network has served archive.debian.org via both 
> HTTP and rsync. As part of improving the reliability of the service for 
> users, the Debian mirrors team is separating the access methods to different 
> host names:
> 
> http://archive.debian.org/ will remain the entry point for HTTP clients such 
> as APT
> 
> rsync://rsync.archive.debian.org/debian-archive/ is now available for those 
> who wish to mirror all or parts of the archives.
> 
> rsync service on archive.debian.org has stopped, and we encourage anyone 
> using the service to migrate to the new host name as soon as possible.
> --
> 
> 
> I am not responsible for any part of this, I'm just relaying the
> news.
> 

Thanks!

Sincerely, Byung-Hee

Re: OT: any South Korean users out there?

[Byung-Hee HWANG]

Curt  writes:

> On 2023-11-18, Byung-Hee HWANG  wrote:
>> (...)
>> Again, i just normal user in South Korea. And i do not know about
>> "gigabit download speed".
>
> You should probably move to "some area," but I suppose you'd have to dish
> out astronomical sums for housing (they either get you coming or going).
>
> :-)

Oh Curt, thanks for comments. Yes! Honestly i don't care about download
speed in INTERNET. Because my day job is farmer in South Korea.


Sincerely, Byung-Hee

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Re: OT: any South Korean users out there?

[Byung-Hee HWANG]

Hellow Jeff,

Jeffrey Walton  writes:

> Hi Everyone,
>
> Please forgive the off-topic question. I want to connect with someone
> from South Korea. I want to understand how competition helps drive
> down the cost of internet service.
>
> I understand South Korea has at least 6 Internet Service Providers in
> some areas. South Koreans enjoy gigabit download speeds at a fraction
> of the cost to their US counterparts. They can download a 4 GB dvd or
> iso in under 2 seconds, and pay the equivalent to about $25/month for
> the service. Or those were the numbers I saw several years ago. (The
> US is a mess because of a US Supreme Court ruling where the idiots in
> black robes decided 2 companies were enough for competition. It has
> ruined competition in every vertical I am aware of).
>
> I want to verify the numbers, and ask some follow up questions.
>

I live in the countryside of South Korea. And using SK Telecom via
mobile. The mobile is my INTERNET Router by hot-spot (Device: LG V30
Androidphone).

And my maximum usage are 2 Gigabytes data per month. If i reach 2
Gigabytes, my download speeds decrease. Just decrease, not stop.

And the total charges are 59900 Won per month.

Again, i just normal user in South Korea. And i do not know about
"gigabit download speed".

Thanks,

Sincerely, Byung-Hee

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Re: limit on attachment in mail to list

[Byung-Hee HWANG]

On Thu, Nov 09, 2023 at 02:04:39AM -0500, hlyg wrote:
> list doesn't seem to accept my mail, because of big attachment i believe
> 
> what is max size of attachment allowed in list? Thanks!
> 

Hellow, 

This is my guess:


220 bendel.debian.org ESMTP Postfix
ehlo penguin
250-bendel.debian.org
250-PIPELINING
250-SIZE 3072
250-STARTTLS
250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES
250-8BITMIME
250 CHUNKING
quit
221 2.0.0 Bye


So 3072 bytes?

Still it was not tested myself...


Sincerely, Byung-Hee

Re: Request to Establish a Debian Mirror Server for Bangladeshi Users

[Byung-Hee HWANG]

On Wed, Nov 08, 2023 at 10:10:51AM +0600, Md Shehab wrote:
> Dear Debian Community,
> 
> I hope this email finds you well. I am writing to propose the establishment
> of a Debian mirror server in Bangladesh
> I am confident that a Debian mirror server in Bangladesh would be a
> valuable resource for the local tech community
> 
> I would like to request your support for this proposal. I am open to any
> suggestions or feedback you may have.
> 
> Thank you for your time and consideration.
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Shehab Uddin

There is LUG in Bangladesh? Nice to meet you Shehab!

Sincrely, Byung-Hee from South Korea

Re: ibus-wayland question

[Byung-Hee HWANG]

On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 07:27:58PM +0900, Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희) wrote:
> didier gaumet  writes:
> 
> > Le 20/06/2023 à 05:07, Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희) a écrit :
> >> Hellow Debian hackers,s
> >> I'm CJK user with Debian Gnome from South Korea.
> >> Nowdays i am interested in Wayland and Input Method.
> >> So i did install ibus-wayland:
> > [...]
> >> Please please show me the example config for testing inputing with
> >> ibus-wayland. Yep, i am on Debian 12 (Bookworm).
> > [...]
> >
> > Hello Byung-Hee,
> >
> > I am a lazy guy so to be able to type chinese characters I did:
> > - install task-chinese-s, task-chinese-s-desktop,
> >   task-chinese-s-gnome-desktop, task-chinese-t, task-chinese-t-desktop,
> >   task-chinese-t-gnome-desktop.
> > that takes care of fonts and input methods needed (one needs actual input
> > methods, not only the input methods framework)
> > - then I enter the Gnome setup (keyboard) and I add the Pinyin IME
> > and I am done
> >
> > It's probably very similar for Korean
> >
> > (I am unable to write chinese or any CJK language, I am just used to do this
> > to be able to set up a chinese IME for a friend)
> 
> Thank you didier! You are kind man i think.
> 
> It is very hard to answer i guess. Because i did not tell you(Debian
> users) my real plan. The my real plan is to make input method (Korean)
> under "Wayland only environment".
> 
> So i wanted to know that difference of 'GNOME Wayland' and 'Wayland'. I
> thought that key have ibus-wayland.
> 
> thanks again didier ^^^

Let me say my plan: 
There is lovely Korean Input Method for Korean Linux users. That name is
Nabi. However Nabi is run only X11 environment. I want to take the Nabi
to the next generation "Wayland world". This is my lifelong wish. Really
i love the Nabi.


Sincerely, Byung-Hee from South Korea

Re: ibus-wayland question

[Byung-Hee HWANG]

> Really i have so much ***WAYLAND*** ^^^

s/i have/i like/g 

Sorry for mis-typing... 

Re: ibus-wayland question

[Byung-Hee HWANG]

On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 12:07:25PM +0900, Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희) wrote:
> Hellow Debian hackers,
> 
> I'm CJK user with Debian Gnome from South Korea.
> Nowdays i am interested in Wayland and Input Method.
> 
> So i did install ibus-wayland:
> 
> 
> soyeomul@yw-1130:~$ dpkg -s ibus-wayland
> Package: ibus-wayland
> Status: install ok installed
> Priority: optional
> Section: utils
> Installed-Size: 311
> Maintainer: Debian Input Method Team 
> Architecture: amd64
> Multi-Arch: foreign
> Source: ibus
> Version: 1.5.27-5
> Depends: libc6 (>= 2.34), libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.31.8), libibus-1.0-5 (>= 1.5.1), 
> libwayland-client0 (>= 1.20.0), libxkbcommon0 (>= 0.5.0)
> Description: Intelligent Input Bus - Wayland support
>  IBus is an Intelligent Input Bus. It is a new input framework for the Linux
>  OS. It provides full featured and user friendly input method user interface.
>  It also may help developers to develop input method easily.
>  .
>  This package contains the Wayland input method support.
>  .
>  This package is only needed if you are using a Wayland compositor which
>  supports the "input-method-unstable-v1" protocol, and if you want to input
>  text via this protocol. Note that even on Wayland compositors with no support
>  of this protocol, IBus could still work using its own transport protocol and
>  APIs.
> Homepage: https://github.com/ibus/ibus
> soyeomul@yw-1130:~$ 
> 
> 
> 
> soyeomul@yw-1130:~$ env | grep SESSION
> SESSION_MANAGER=local/yw-1130:@/tmp/.ICE-unix/2064,unix/yw-1130:/tmp/.ICE-unix/2064
> GNOME_DESKTOP_SESSION_ID=this-is-deprecated
> DESKTOP_SESSION=gnome
> XDG_SESSION_DESKTOP=gnome
> XDG_SESSION_TYPE=wayland
> XDG_SESSION_CLASS=user
> GDMSESSION=gnome
> DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=unix:path=/run/user/3253/bus
> soyeomul@yw-1130:~$ 
> 
> 
> 
> soyeomul@yw-1130:~$ env | grep ibus
> GTK_IM_MODULE=ibus
> XMODIFIERS=@im=ibus
> QT_IM_MODULE=ibus
> soyeomul@yw-1130:~$ 
> 
> 
> 
> soyeomul@yw-1130:~$ cat /etc/environment
> GTK_IM_MODULE=ibus
> XMODIFIERS=@im=ibus
> soyeomul@yw-1130:~$ 
> 
> 
> Please please show me the example config for testing inputing with
> ibus-wayland. Yep, i am on Debian 12 (Bookworm).
> 
> Any comments welcome everytime!!!
> 
> Really i have so much ***WAYLAND*** ^^^
> 
> As you know, this input is from ibus (GNU Emacs 28.2) ;;;
> 
> 
> Sincerely, Byung-Hee (CJK user with Debian 12)

OK. This is same story. Currently i'm running ibus under Gnome Wayland.

However i did not launch /usr/libexec/ibus-wayland. Though my
XDG_SESSUIN_TYPE is "wayland":


soyeomul@yw-1130:~$ env | grep XDG_SESSION
XDG_SESSION_DESKTOP=gnome
XDG_SESSION_TYPE=wayland
XDG_SESSION_CLASS=user
soyeomul@yw-1130:~$



soyeomul@yw-1130:~$ ps -ax | grep ibus-wayland
  14200 pts/2S+ 0:00 grep ibus-wayland
soyeomul@yw-1130:~$


If so, what is this ibus-wayland for?
Already i do type as wayland without ibus-wayland.

Seriously, i'm curious about the purpose of this ibus-wayland package.


Sincerely, Byung-Hee

Re: Learning resources and material-wise, which distro has an easier learning curve - Debian or Arch?

[Byung-Hee HWANG]

Dear songbird,

songbird  writes:

> Byung-Hee HWANG wrote:
> ...
>> Go with Gnome Desktop. Gnome is easy and friendly.
>>
>> Also i am using Gnome Desktop under Debian 11 Bullseye.
>
>   :)  i'm running testing with bits of unstable and
> just tagging along on this thread because i feel a
> bit chatty this morning so a bit of story time and
> preferences from my experiences so far with Debian
> and desktop environments.
>
>   if we're going to plug a different desktop with a
> simple interface (as indicated by the OP) i'll put one
> in for the MATE desktop.  it is fairly consistent for
> many years and a lot more simple for my pea brain to
> understand and get things done.  the other aspect i
> was after was being able to handle lesser versions of
> hardware that could at times not do as much as i 
> might have wanted but it did work ok until i could
> finally upgrade my hardware.
>
>   having spent many hours years ago when various 
> desktops were being developed to learn KDE and get my
> desktop set up exactly how i liked it and then they
> changed it to something i didn't like and so i switched
> to GNOME and went through the large amount of work to
> get that set up and how i liked it and again had that
> desktop change to something i did not like again (in
> both the KDE and GNOME cases it was also using more
> resources than my older machine at that time could
> reliably handle).  so then MATE came along and has 
> done exactly what i wanted it to do.  stay simple and
> not mess up my layouts and preferences too much as 
> it updates.  thankfully i have not had to do much
> more fiddling around or searching for another desk-
> top since.
>
>   i have not had to try the other more simple
> desktops, but i probably could manage it, after all
> a simple console text terminal was adequate for many
> years on a bunch of different machines through 15
> years of work even if i also could have multiple
> terminals open on a Sun machine.  thank ghods for a
> good local network all those years (one advantage
> of working at the university back then).  i really
> was spoiled by that and did not really appreciate
> it until i was offline more and forced to use dialup
> lines and modems all over again.
>

It is so long letter. Thank you for your real story. You nice guy ^^^

Still i believe that Gnome Desktop is beautiful even though it is heavy!

>> Sincerely, Byung-Hee
>
>   :)
>
>
>   songbird


Sincerely, Byung-Hee (Gnome user in Debian 11 Bullseye)

Re: Learning resources and material-wise, which distro has an easier learning curve - Debian or Arch?

[Byung-Hee HWANG]

Dear Rajib,

"Susmita/Rajib"  writes:

> My dear illustrious leaders and senior list members of debian-user ML,
>
> I hope I will have a clear reply on the matter by the end of the
> inputs received for this query.
>
> For example, in Debian https://wiki.debian.org/LXDE has almost
> nothing. Whereas Arch has at least a better wiki documentation on
> LXDE. Also, as described in the earlier post:
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2023/05/msg00792.html, the native
> wiki website of LXDE is non-existent.
>
> ArchLinux LXDE is not Debian LXDE. The corresponding packages
> available in any one of the two isn't compatible with the other
> (.tar.bz2 vs .deb). Debian installation via synaptic (or apt) is very
> organised and simple for me.
>
> So this query also: is .deb packages a better alternative than
> .tar.bz2? What are the pros and cons if the two are compared?

.tar.bz2 is not easy to install.

> I tried to add a menu item to the right click, drop down menu in LXDE,
> but failed to find any information on this.
>
> I moved away from LXDE as a result and have begun using OpenBox.
>
> So my question becomes all the more pertinent.

Go with Gnome Desktop. Gnome is easy and friendly.

Also i am using Gnome Desktop under Debian 11 Bullseye.


Sincerely, Byung-Hee

Re: repeat of previous question that has gone unansweredseveraltimes.

[Byung-Hee HWANG]

Alex King  writes:

> Printing on Linux is poor.  CUPS is poor.  It doesn't work for some (a lot?)
> of people.
>
> I have a Brother HL-L2300D printer.  It is connected to my (Debian bullseye)
> workstation by USB.  I have CUPS installed.
> (...)

Hellow Alex!

In South Korea, most people does printing at just MS-Windows machine. Me
too. So i have no printer in house. If i have to print something, i go
to my friend home -- he have printer and MS-Windows machine.

Maybe off-topic, have nice day ^^^


Sincerely, Byung-Hee from South Korea

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Re: I installed 11.6

[Byung-Hee HWANG]

 writes:

> On Fri, 5 May 2023 23:27:45 -0400
> Maureen L Thomas  wrote:
>
>> that I hate upgrading because they change everything 
>
> (...) Your window manager and
> other similar settings are stored in your home directory.

+1; Upgrading don't touch user's settings.

Sincerely, Byung-Hee (Debian Bullseye user)

Re: Need some advice please.

[Byung-Hee HWANG]

Dear Thomas,

Maureen L Thomas  writes:

> I should have thought of that.  Thank you for your help.  I need to
> start writing down everything I do so I don't forget again.

Usually i do backup into Google Drive (with only very important files).
So if system is crash, i go to re-install entire after format.

This is my way (easy and stable).


Sincerely, Byung-Hee (Debian Bullseye user)

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Re: Email bodies not show anymore in Evolution Email

[Byung-Hee HWANG]

didier gaumet  writes:

> Le 04/05/2023 à 09:54, Christoph Pleger a écrit :
>> Hello,
>> suddenly, I have the problem in Evolution Email, that email bodies
>> are not shown anymore, but only the headers.
>> This affects my private email account as well as my email account
>> for work. Maybe I have changed some setting,
>> but I cannot remember to have done that.
>> Any idea?
>
> Hello,
>
> I have had just the same problem. I think it is caused by the last
> security upgrade by unattended-upgrades of these packages:
> gir1.2-javascriptcoregtk-4.0
> gir1.2-webkit2-4.0
> libjavascriptcoregtk-4.0-18
> libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37

Me too!
After 'sudo apt update; sudo apt upgrade', i met same problem.

This is obvious bug.

> in the unattended-upgrades mail that informed me of the upgrade,
> needrestart-session added that:
>
> User sessions running outdated binaries:
>  didier @ user manager service: bwrap[2629], evolution[2417],
>  gnome-session=
> -b[2185], systemd[1956]
> Log ended: 2023-05-04  09:35:34
>
> So I restarted my gdm session (and thus Evolution)
> And since then, Evolution does not show email bodies
>
> It seems to me to be a regression bug likely caused by the upgrade of
> one the four packages above (I have done a dpkg-reconfigure of them, 
> without success)
>
>

My package is:
Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye)
Evolution 3.38.3-1+deb11u1

Sincerely, Byung-Hee

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Re: sudo and echo

[Byung-Hee HWANG]

 writes:

> (...)
> My favourite alternative to tee for this is dd: you don't have to
> "throw away" the other stream:
>
>   echo 123 | sudo dd of=/root/123.txt
>
> Actually, any program willing to pass stdin to an output file
> whose name you can choose will do the trick.

Hellow tomas,

It is very amazing, excellent job!

Sincerely,

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Re: I need help with my var partition.

[Byung-Hee HWANG]

Dear Mrs. Thomas,

Maureen L Thomas  writes:

> (...)
> I was thinking of upgrading
> online but don't want to loose my data.

First of all, please do back-up your *important* data.
Such as pictures, video clips, diary, some text docs, etc.

(Also i'm Debian user with Debian Bullseye under ThinkPad notebook)


Sincerely, Byung-Hee from South Korea

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Re: Email clients and IMAP search support

[Byung-Hee HWANG]

Andre Rodier  writes:

> On Sun, 2023-04-16 at 17:01 +0100, Andre Rodier wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Is there any desktop email client on Debian, that supports server
>> side IMAP search, please ?
>> 
>> I have an email server that support indexing attachment contents,
>> and when I run a query from the command line using
>> doveadm search or even TELNET, it is returning the correct email indexes.
>> 
>> However, when I try the same search with a desktop client, nothing
>> is returned. I tried Thunderbird, Balsa, Claws and
>> Geary. None of them is satisfactory.
>> 
>> Thanks for your help.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> André
>> 
>
> OK, I am answering to myself, Gnome Evolution works, it is sending the
> search query to the server.
>
> Even in some advanced RTL languages like Arabic.
>
> Great!

Hellow Andre,

Searching for IMAP is good with Gmail web interface, i think. If you
have web browser such as mozilla firefox, chromium browser. Try to
gmail, just with web browser. It is not bad in my experience. And also i
am Debian user (Debian 11 Bullseye under Chromebook).

As you know, Gmail is good with UTF-8 support / Searching / Labeling.

See here:
https://gitlab.com/soyeomul/Gnus/-/commit/314e84446d1002726aec0ccf81a756d54568bfbb

In real world, i use both Gmail and Emacs Gnus for email.

Sincerely, Byung-Hee

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Re: Mailing list usage questions

[Byung-Hee HWANG]

>> >If you are subscribed to the mailing list and you post, you should see
>> >a copy turn up in your mailing list mails 
>> 
>> Unless your email provider is google, or somebody covertly using google.
>
> Now why would you want to do that?

I have experience. Gmail eat one message if that is duplicated.

Sincerely,

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Re: debian 11 vs ubuntu 22

[Byung-Hee HWANG]

 writes:

> On Wed, Mar 29, 2023 at 10:05:28AM +0900, Byung-Hee HWANG wrote:
>> cor...@free.fr writes:
>> 
>> > Dear list,
>> >
>> > Though I have been using debian 11 for long days, I want to give a try
>> > on ubuntu 22.04.
>> > Do you know what's the main difference for these two systems on
>> > dev/ops environment?
>> 
>> I have experience both Ubuntu and Debian. Google cloud vm is running
>> Ubuntu 18.04 LTS (+ESM). Then my desktop is Debian 11 under Chromebook.
>> 
>> Ubuntu's advantage is 10 years.
>
> Aha. Just a random test (Debian Bullseye here, so not the newest):
>
>   tomas@trotzki:~$ bash --version
>   GNU bash, version 5.1.4(1)-release (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)
>   Copyright (C) 2020 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
>   License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later 
> <http://gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html>
>
>   This is free software; you are free to change and redistribute it.
>   There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law.
>
> This page says that bash 5.1 is 2020-12-07. So Ubuntu 22.10 would be
> from... 2030? Operating system from the future! Must be the Flatpaks
> or how they are called.
>
> Cheers
>
> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bash_(Unix_shell)

Thank you for kind test, tomas!

Also i like GNU bash very much, indeed.

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Re: debian 11 vs ubuntu 22

[Byung-Hee HWANG]

Tom Furie  writes:

> On Wed, Mar 29, 2023 at 10:05:28AM +0900, Byung-Hee HWANG wrote:
>  
>> I have experience both Ubuntu and Debian. Google cloud vm is running
>> Ubuntu 18.04 LTS (+ESM). Then my desktop is Debian 11 under Chromebook.
>> 
>> Ubuntu's advantage is 10 years.
>
> I can't interpret what this 10 year advantage refers to. Could you expand on
> what you mean here, please?
>

Hellow Tom!

I did mean that 10 years of security updates.
Most Ubuntu users know this news, i think.

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Re: debian 11 vs ubuntu 22

[Byung-Hee HWANG]

cor...@free.fr writes:

> Dear list,
>
> Though I have been using debian 11 for long days, I want to give a try
> on ubuntu 22.04.
> Do you know what's the main difference for these two systems on
> dev/ops environment?

I have experience both Ubuntu and Debian. Google cloud vm is running
Ubuntu 18.04 LTS (+ESM). Then my desktop is Debian 11 under Chromebook.

Ubuntu's advantage is 10 years.

So i prefer Ubuntu LTS for cloud/server.

Just so so

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Re: email lacks sender address

[Byung-Hee HWANG]

Celejar  writes:

> (... thanks ...)
> the problem is that it doesn't verify the
> server's SSL certificate, so it's susceptible to a MITM attack by
> someone impersonating Gmail. Again, you'll have to judge for yourself
> whether this is something to worry about.

Now i understood correctly.
Thanks for the summary, Celejar!

Sincerely, Linux fan Byung-Hee

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Re: email lacks sender address

[Byung-Hee HWANG]

> Both Gmail and yw-1204
> does not break about this matter (verify certificate).

Correction: Exactly, i did't see any problems. Because i have been using always
self-signed certficate with sSMTP.

Sorry for confusing statement. 

Sincerely, Linux fan Byung-Hee

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Re: email lacks sender address

[Byung-Hee HWANG]

Dear Celejar,

Celejar  writes:

> On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 09:42:38 +0900
> 황병희  wrote:
>
>> Dear Greg,
>> 
>> Greg Wooledge  writes:
>> 
>> > (... thanks ...)
>> > unicorn:~$ apt-cache show ssmtp
>> > [...]
>> > Description-en: extremely simple MTA to get mail off the system to
>> > a mail hub
>> >  A secure, effective and simple way of getting mail off a system to your
>> >  mail hub. It contains no suid-binaries or other dangerous things - no mail
>> >  spool to poke around in, and no daemons running in the background. Mail is
>> >  simply forwarded to the configured mailhost. Extremely easy configuration.
>> >
>> > The entire point of this package is that it's meant to be used on a
>> > "dumb client" which does not wish to have its own outgoing mail queue.
>> > Instead, it forwards all of your mail to your "smart host" -- the MTA
>> > that has been set up for your organization's dumb clients to use.
>> >
>> > So, the single piece of information you need in order to use ssmtp is
>> > the hostname of your smart host.  Also known as your mail relay.  Or many
>> > other names.  It's where you want your outgoing mail to be handled.
>> >
>> 
>> Thanks for your time and your life!
>> 
>> Really i love sSMTP so much!!!
>
> FWIW, there's an outstanding ten year old bug against sSMTP pointing
> out that it doesn't bother to validate server TLS certificates. You'll
> have to decide whether this bothers you or not:
>
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=662960

That seems some technical issue. However i have no skills to repair that
C level program.

Actually i have no trouble with current sSMTP. Both Gmail and yw-1204
does not break about this matter (verify certificate). So for a while
i'll keep this state. It means that i will continue to use the sSMTP.

Sorry and thanks ^^^

Sincerely, Linux fan Byung-Hee

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Re: OT EU-based Cloud Service

[Byung-Hee HWANG]

Dear Celejar,

Celejar  writes:

> (...thanks...)
> FWIW, I use Scaleway's S3-compatible Object Storage (via rclone, from
> the U.S.) to store borg backups online, and it works very well. The
> first 75GB of storage (and transfer) are currently free:
>
> https://www.scaleway.com/en/object-storage/

INDEED, i need cross checking! Thanks for information ^^^

> Celejar

Sincerely, Linux fan Byung-Hee

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Re: OT EU-based Cloud Service

[Byung-Hee HWANG]

 writes:

> On Fri, Mar 18, 2022 at 04:37:28PM +0900, Byung-Hee HWANG wrote:
>> Hellow Debian!
>> 
>> I'm Linux fan from South Korea. Very much i like Linux / OpenSource
>> stuff. And for the first time in my life, i have to plan to try install
>> mail server for outbond.
>
> To add one exotic entry, Uberspace [1] looks nice. Granted, it's more
> expensive than the Big Ones (e.g. Hetzner), but they look principled
> in a good way.
>
> Cheers
>
> [1] https://uberspace.de/en/

Hellow Tomás!

Also i'll check it. Thanks for advice and your time ^^^

Sincerely, Linux fan Byung-Hee

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Re: OT EU-based Cloud Service

[Byung-Hee HWANG]

Hellow rhkramer!

rhkra...@gmail.com writes:

> On Friday, March 18, 2022 10:39:00 AM Byung-Hee HWANG wrote:
>> So while outbond mail server testing, i'll keep Google Workspace for
>> safety.
>
> Just a note on (American) English usage -- I think you are talking about 
> sending mail, and we (I think) would more commonly use the word outbound to 
> describe that (at least the direction of mail).

Thanks for correction on 'outbond/outbound'. English is still difficult
to me. Thanks again rhkramer ^^^

> Have a good day!

Sincerely, Linux fan Byung-Hee

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Re: OT EU-based Cloud Service

[Byung-Hee HWANG]

Dear Nicolas,

Nicolas George  writes:

> Byung-Hee HWANG (12022-03-18):
>> I'm Linux fan from South Korea. Very much i like Linux / OpenSource
>> stuff. And for the first time in my life, i have to plan to try install
>> mail server for outbond.
>> 
>> For setup outbond server, i'll use Postfix and Ubuntu 18.04 LTS. That is
>> mandotary. And i'm looking for good place. Particular, Amazon-EC2-like
>> Service. Possibly i want to EU-based Cloud service. There is my personal
>> reason for EU-based thing.
>> 
>> Very long time i did googling for searching EU-based Cloud Service. But
>> i did fail. So i ask here Debian users. Because here Debian users looks
>> like to know good place, EU-based Cloud.
>> 
>> Actually i'm willing to pay about 5€ for the my plan.
>
> In France, the three major host providers are:
>
> https://www.scaleway.com/
> https://www.gandi.net/
> https://www.ovhcloud.com/
>
> I have a very cheap dedicated server at OVH, it serves its purpose.

Both OVH and Gandi, i've heard it a few times from an Ubuntu user. And
your story give me courage. Thanks for good advice ^^^

> Regards,

Sincerely, Linux fan Byung-Hee

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Re: OT EU-based Cloud Service

[Byung-Hee HWANG]

Dear Stefan,

Stefan Monnier  writes:

> (...thanks...)
> There's also https://serverius.net/

Wow Netherlands, Venema's homeland! I'll definitely check it!!

> I don't have first hand knowledge of them, but disroot.org seems happy
> to rely on them.
>
> Stefan

Thanks Stefan ^^^

Sincerely, Linux fan Byung-Hee

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Re: OT EU-based Cloud Service

[Byung-Hee HWANG]

Dear Jim,

Jim Popovitch  writes:

> On Fri, 2022-03-18 at 09:27 -0300, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:
>> On 18/03/2022 04:37, Byung-Hee HWANG wrote:
>> > Very long time i did googling for searching EU-based Cloud Service. But
>> > i did fail. So i ask here Debian users. Because here Debian users looks
>> > like to know good place, EU-based Cloud.
>> 
>> Both Linode (https://www.linode.com) and Digital Ocean 
>> (https://www.digitalocean.com) have EU datacenters.
>> 
>
>
> YSK, Hertzner, Linode and Digital Ocean all have had and may continue to
> have issues with sending emails from their networks.

So while outbond mail server testing, i'll keep Google Workspace for
safety.

> Discussion of
> that is not on-point for this list, but if want to learn more checkout
> the MailOP list at:
>
> https://list.mailop.org/listinfo/mailop

Thanks for your kind and technical advice ^^^

> -Jim P.

Sincerely, Linux fan Byung-Hee

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Re: OT EU-based Cloud Service

[Byung-Hee HWANG]

Dear Eduardo,

Eduardo M KALINOWSKI  writes:

> On 18/03/2022 04:37, Byung-Hee HWANG wrote:
>> Very long time i did googling for searching EU-based Cloud Service. But
>> i did fail. So i ask here Debian users. Because here Debian users looks
>> like to know good place, EU-based Cloud.
>
> Both Linode (https://www.linode.com) and Digital Ocean
> (https://www.digitalocean.com) have EU datacenters.

Also i will check for both services, thanks!

Sincerely, Linux fan Byung-Hee

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Re: OT EU-based Cloud Service

[Byung-Hee HWANG]

Guten Tag Thomas ^^^

"Thomas Schmitt"  writes:

> Hi,
>
> Richard Hector wrote:
>> Um - you might be thinking of Nürburg? Home of the Nürburgring? :-)
>
> Rather
>   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norisring

Oh thanks for other information!

> Further, Nuernberg is home to SuSE Linux.

Wow SuSE also is fame in Linux distro! Still good news!!

> Have a nice day :)
> Thomas

Sincerely, Linux fan Byung-Hee

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Re: OT EU-based Cloud Service

[Byung-Hee HWANG]

Dear Richard,

Richard Hector  writes:

> On 18/03/22 21:14, Byung-Hee HWANG wrote:
>>> https://hetzner.cloud
>>>
>>> German company, a single VPS cost is about 5€ per month.
>> Oh Nuremberg! Racing Circuit, fantastic!!
>
> Um - you might be thinking of Nürburg? Home of the Nürburgring? :-)
>
> Nuremburg has other associations in my mind, but I'm sure it's a fine
> place for a data centre.

You right, thanks for correction ^^^

> Cheers,
> Richard

Sincerely, Linux fan Byung-Hee

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Re: OT EU-based Cloud Service

[Byung-Hee HWANG]

Dear Reco,

Reco  writes:

>   Hi.
>
> On Fri, Mar 18, 2022 at 04:37:28PM +0900, Byung-Hee HWANG wrote:
>> Very long time i did googling for searching EU-based Cloud Service. But
>> i did fail. So i ask here Debian users. Because here Debian users looks
>> like to know good place, EU-based Cloud.
>> 
>> Actually i'm willing to pay about 5€ for the my plan.
>
> https://hetzner.cloud
>
> German company, a single VPS cost is about 5€ per month.

Oh Nuremberg! Racing Circuit, fantastic!!

Tonight i will investigate for hetzner(Nuremberg) in Germany.

Thanks Reco ^^^

Sincerely, Linux fan Byung-Hee from South Korea

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OT EU-based Cloud Service

[Byung-Hee HWANG]

Hellow Debian!

I'm Linux fan from South Korea. Very much i like Linux / OpenSource
stuff. And for the first time in my life, i have to plan to try install
mail server for outbond.

For setup outbond server, i'll use Postfix and Ubuntu 18.04 LTS. That is
mandotary. And i'm looking for good place. Particular, Amazon-EC2-like
Service. Possibly i want to EU-based Cloud service. There is my personal
reason for EU-based thing.

Very long time i did googling for searching EU-based Cloud Service. But
i did fail. So i ask here Debian users. Because here Debian users looks
like to know good place, EU-based Cloud.

Actually i'm willing to pay about 5€ for the my plan.

Please recommand it, and any comments welcome ^^^

Sincerely, Linux fan Byung-Hee from South Korea

[^^^] EU: European Union

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Re: recommend music player?

[Byung-Hee HWANG]

(... sorry for off-topic ...)

#+begins_src text
X-Amavis-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.715 tagged_above=-1 required=5.3
tests=[BAYES_00=-2, BODY_8BITS=1.5, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1,
DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FROM_SUSPICIOUS_NTLD=0.498,
LDO_WHITELIST=-5, MONEY=0.5, PDS_OTHER_BAD_TLD=1.997,
RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01]
#+end_src

Above is before my message <87k0csyj6o.fsf@penguin> header. For first
time in my life, i got it 'MONEY=0.5' tag. That (MONEY tag) seems from
the zsh script?! There were many '$' sign.

INDEED, i like money in real life ^^^

(sorry for again off-topic)

Sincerely, Linux fan Byung-Hee 

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Re: recommend music player?

[Byung-Hee HWANG]

Dear Emanuel,

Emanuel Berg  writes:

> 황병희 wrote:
>
>> Personally my computer is chromebook. I installed Debian 11
>> Bullseye inside chromebook. In that case, YouTube is very
>> useful music player. Ok man sorry for off-topic music
>> player. Though YouTube is so awesome, at least, to me ...
>
> Uhm ... YouTube?!
>
> While YouTube is a great _database_ for multimedia, the
> interface is usually what people dislike about it.
>
> Compared to mpv ... yeah, it is a toy.
>
> But: Here [last] are a bunch of commands that can help you get
> the material, or a bunch of material actually, from a single
> search string ...
>
> This will give you, hopefully, what is good about YouTube so
> you can then combine it with that is awesome about mpv and get
> the best of both worlds.

Thanks, i will try these stuff later. In whole stroy, two things come to
my mind -- mpv and yt-dlp.

> Test with, e.g. this awesome video:
>
>   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdL55HWNPRM
>
> #! /dev/zsh
> #
> # this file:
> #   https://dataswamp.org/~incal/conf/.zsh/dl
>
> dl_resume=".dl"
>
> dl-resume () {
> if [[ -f $dl_resume ]]; then
> rtorrent $(cat $dl_resume)
> else
> echo "Cannot resume, no $dl_resume file" >&2
> fi
> }
>
> dl () {
> local urls=${1:-$(<$DL_FILE)}
>
> if [[ $urls == magnet* ]]; then
> echo $urls > $dl_resume
> rtorrent ${=urls}
> elif [[ $urls == http* ]]; then
> dl-both $urls
> fi
> }
>
> dlp_opts=(-i -q --no-colors --no-warnings)
>
> dl-both () {
> local urls=${1:-$(<$DL_FILE)}
> yt-dlp $dlp_opts ${=urls}
> }
>
> dl-video () {
> local urls=${1:-$(<$DL_FILE)}
> yt-dlp $dlp_opts -f 'bestvideo' ${=urls}
> }
>
> dl-audio () {
> local urls=${1:-$(<$DL_FILE)}
> yt-dlp $dlp_opts -f 'bestaudio' ${=urls}
> }
>
> dl-1080-up () {
> local urls=${1:-$(<$DL_FILE)}
> yt-dlp $dlp_opts -f 'bestvideo[height>=1080]+bestaudio' ${=urls}
> }
>
> dl-720-up () {
> local urls=${1:-$(<$DL_FILE)}
> yt-dlp $dlp_opts -f 'bestvideo[height>=720]+bestaudio' ${=urls}
> }
>
> dl-2160 () {
> local urls=${1:-$(<$DL_FILE)}
> yt-dlp $dlp_opts -f 'bestvideo[height=2160]+bestaudio' ${=urls}
> }
>
> dl-1080 () {
> local urls=${1:-$(<$DL_FILE)}
> yt-dlp $dlp_opts -f 'bestvideo[height=1080]+bestaudio' ${=urls}
> }
>
> dl-720 () {
> local urls=${1:-$(<$DL_FILE)}
> yt-dlp $dlp_opts -f 'bestvideo[height=720]+bestaudio' ${=urls}
> }
>
> dl-2160-video () {
> local urls=${1:-$(<$DL_FILE)}
> yt-dlp $dlp_opts -f 'bestvideo[height=2160]' ${=urls}
> }
>
> dl-1080-up-video () {
> local urls=${1:-$(<$DL_FILE)}
> yt-dlp $dlp_opts -f 'bestvideo[height>=1080]' ${=urls}
> }
>
> dl-720-up-video () {
> local urls=${1:-$(<$DL_FILE)}
> yt-dlp $dlp_opts -f 'bestvideo[height>=720]' ${=urls}
> }
>
> dl-all () {
> local fun=$1
> shift
> local search=$@
>
> local name=$funcstack[1]
> local file=.${name}-str.txt
>
> if [[ $fun == 'cat' ]]; then
> cat $file
> else
> echo $search >> $file
>
> local hits=$(printf '%s\t%s\r\n' /youtube.cgi $search |
>  nc git.codemadness.org 70|
>  awk -F '\t' '/^h.*embed/ { sub("URL:", "", $2); print $2 
> }')
> $fun $hits
> fi
> }
> alias dac='dl-all cat'
>
> dl-all-1080-up () {
> local search=$@
> dl-all dl-1080-up $search
> }
> alias da=dl-all-1080-up
>
> dl-all-720-up () {
> local search=$@
> dl-all dl-720-up $search
> }
>
> dl-all-both () {
> local search=$@
> dl-all dl-both $search
> }
>
> dl-all-2160-video () {
> local search=$@
> dl-all dl-2160-video $search
> }
> alias dl-all-4k-video=dl-all-2160-video
>
> dl-all-2160 () {
> local search=$@
> dl-all dl-2160 $search
> }
> alias dl-all-4k=dl-all-2160
>
> dl-all-1080 () {
> local search=$@
> dl-all dl-1080 $search
> }
>
> dl-all-720 () {
> local search=$@
> dl-all dl-720 $search
> }
>
> dl-all-1080-up-video () {
> local search=$@
> dl-all dl-1080-up-video $search
> }
>
> dl-all-720-up-video () {
> local search=$@
> dl-all dl-720-up-video $search
> }
>
> dl-up-down () {
> local search=$@
> dl-all dl-2160 $search
> dl-all dl-1080 $search
> dl-all dl-720  $search
> }
>
> dl-all-video () {
> local search=$@
> dl-all dl-video $search
> }
>
> dl-all-audio () {
> local search=$@
> dl-all dl-audio $search
> }
> alias daa=dl-all-audio
>
> dl-music () {
> local songs=($@)
>
> local s
> local hit
> for s in $songs; do
> hit=$(printf '%s\t%s\r\n' /youtube.cgi $s |
>   nc git.codemadness.org 70   |
>   head -n 1   |
>   awk -F '\t' '/^h.*embed/ { sub("URL:", "", $2); print $2 }')
> dl-audio $hit
> done
> }
>

The zsh script looks like python script ...

Thanks again ^^^

Sincerely, Linux fan Byung-Hee from South Korea

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Re: Wayland vs X

[Byung-Hee HWANG]

Hellow Emanuel ^^^

Emanuel Berg  writes:

> (...)
>   echo $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP
>
> Never says anything for me.

Also i don't have $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP. Somewhat chromebook's Debian 11
is different from original Debian 11. Though, under Wayland i'm using
GTK-like programs such as GNU Emacs, GIMP, etc. ;;;

Sincerely, Linux fan Byung-Hee

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Re: All mailing list

[Byung-Hee HWANG 🐂🐧]

Shannon Allen  writes:

> I don’t know how to become to set up a mailing list what in the hell
> is going on here

Use Gmane. It is useful for reading and replying.

Sincerely, Byung-Hee

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Re: [OT] NNTP and SMTP Headers (was: Re: Looking for advise to

[Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희, 黃炳熙)]

> Because all I saw in that e-mail was pretty typical for GMail user using
> Claws-Mail as MUA.

i agree with you Reco^^^
my Gnus also tell me the man is GMail user using Claws-Mail as MUA,,,

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Re: Looking for advise to replacy Pan newsreader

[Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희, 黃炳熙)]

> Can your share with me what do you use for newsgroups reading.

Gnus works very well with both NNTP/SMTP,,,

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Re: What is the mailing list software used by lists.debian.org?

[Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희, 黃炳熙)]

Brian Nguyen  writes:

> I think it's not GNU Mailman. What is the software used for official Debian 
> mailing lists? Is it free
> software?

Maybe following page do help for you.
See /MailingLists/index.en.html.

Yes that is not GNU Mailman.

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Re: bts command `send-unmatched'

[Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희, 黃炳熙)]

 writes:

> On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 04:13:32PM +0900, Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희, 黃炳熙) wrote:
>> When i type command by email as follows:
>> 
>> send-unmatched old|-2
>> send-unmatched [old|-2]
>> 
>> Then BTS server tell me "Unknown command or malformed arguments to
>> command." with both above commands.
>> 
>> Yes, i'm now translating /Bugs/server-request
>> [https://www.debian.org/Bugs/server-request.en.html].
>> 
>> Is that dead command? Or am i someting wrong?
>
> Hey, and thanks for your translation work!
>
> NOTE: I didnn't really try this, this is just a quick answer.
>
> I think those signs [ | and ] are just what is called "metasyntax" [1]
> In this case, [...] seems to mean that what goes in [] is optional,
> that is:
>
>   index [full]
>
> means you can either say "index" or "index full". And ...|... means
> either... or, for example:
>
>   send-unmatched last|-1
>
> means you can say "send-unmatched last" or "send-unmatched -1" (both
> seem to mean the same thing). Finally
>
>   send-unmatched [this|0]
>
> means you can say "send unmatched this", "send-unmatched 0" or just simply
> "send-unmatched". Those also seem to mean the same thing.
>
> HTH
> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metasyntax

Sorry for late. And thank you very so much for your explanation.

By the way my friend told me the command is disabled by BTS
server. In this case, may i do to comment on that to the translating
page? 

Again thank you tomas and your time^^

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bts command `send-unmatched'

[Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희, 黃炳熙)]

When i type command by email as follows:

send-unmatched old|-2
send-unmatched [old|-2]

Then BTS server tell me "Unknown command or malformed arguments to
command." with both above commands.

Yes, i'm now translating /Bugs/server-request
[https://www.debian.org/Bugs/server-request.en.html].

Is that dead command? Or am i someting wrong?

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SOLVED (Was: Re: need help: some words is not easy to understand in /Bugs/server-request)

[Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희, 黃炳熙)]

Brian  writes:

> On Tue 14 Aug 2018 at 15:34:06 +0900, Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희, 黃炳熙) wrote:
>
>> Hellow, i'm translating to Korean /Bugs section -- WWW. Though i try 3
>> times for reading again again, i don't understand what means. See below:
>> 
>> #+BEGIN_SRC: text from /Bugs/server-request
>> The Subject of the message is ignored, except for generating the Subject
>> of the reply.
>> #+END_SRC
>> 
>> Help me, please...
>
> It needs to be understood in the context of the whole of the first
> section.
>
> The body of the mail contains the commands to requ...@bugs.debian.org.
> This is the important aspect; the process will not work without its
> being done.
>
> The subject of the mail has no importance and requ...@bugs.debian.org
> will completely ignore it. So you can put anything in the subject line,
> such as "Send for bugnumber" (or even leave it blank). The reply will
> have "Re: Send for bugnumber". That might be useful to the sender.

Thanks for explanation for background reason, indeed...

> IMO, the sentence could simply be rewritten to "The Subject of the
> message is ignored." without loss of essential meaning.

So i now solved problem, thanks Brian^^^

Sincerely, Byung-Hee.

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Re: need help: some words is not easy to understand in /Bugs/server-request

[Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희, 黃炳熙)]

"Thomas Schmitt"  writes:

> Hi,
>
> i too read on
>   https://www.debian.org/Bugs/server-request
>   "The Subject of the message is ignored, except for generating the Subject
>of the reply."
>
> This is indeed a riddling statement.
> Last time i submitted a bug it had the subject:
>
>   live-wrapper: debian-live-9.4.0-amd64-xfce.iso image file is larger than 
> its isosize
>
> which i did not repeat in the message body. The body began with these
> pseudo-headers:
>
>   Source: live-wrapper
>   Version: which made debian-live-9.4.0-amd64-xfce.iso, possibly newer than 
> 0.7
>   Severity: normal
>
> Nevertheless
>   https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=898995
> showed up with the message subject as headline.
>
> Further it was forwarded to debian-live mailing list with subject:
>   Bug#898995: live-wrapper: debian-live-9.4.0-amd64-xfce.iso image file is 
> larger than its isosize
>
> So i am puzzled too by the statement in question.
> (And i doubt that  is the right place to ask for
>  clarification ...)

After read your comments, i did understand as "Always BTS server do re-write 
first
reporter's Subject, except for reply's Subject.". Still i am chaotic...

Thanks for your time, Thomas^^^

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Re: need help: some words is not easy to understand in /Bugs/server-request

[Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희, 黃炳熙)]

 writes:

> On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 03:34:06PM +0900, Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희, 黃炳熙) wrote:
>> Hellow, i'm translating to Korean /Bugs section -- WWW. Though i try 3
>> times for reading again again, i don't understand what means. See below:
>
> I can't find the text you are referring to. An URL would be nice.
>
> Anyway, I'll try to do my best without context:
>
>> #+BEGIN_SRC: text from /Bugs/server-request
>> The Subject of the message is ignored, except for generating the Subject
>> of the reply.
>> #+END_SRC
>
> I interpret this as "the only place where the Subject of the message is
> used is in the Subject of the reply".
>
> Perhaps this is about the Debian Bug Tracking System (BTS); some of the
> bug report's mail headers have a special meaning to the BTS (the To:
> address, for example, contains the bug ID). That would mean that the
> Subject itself is not used, except to generate the reply's Subject
> (which would be important to help the person sending the bug report
> to correlate the reply (s)he receives).
>
> Don't hesitate to ask back if things seem less clear now :-)

So the reply's Subject is important, is this key point?
The URL was https://www.debian.org/Bugs/server-request.en.html

I need more example. Tomas, please...

Thanks for advance...

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need help: some words is not easy to understand in /Bugs/server-request

[Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희, 黃炳熙)]

Hellow, i'm translating to Korean /Bugs section -- WWW. Though i try 3
times for reading again again, i don't understand what means. See below:

#+BEGIN_SRC: text from /Bugs/server-request
The Subject of the message is ignored, except for generating the Subject
of the reply.
#+END_SRC

Help me, please...

Sincerely, Byung-Hee from South Korea.

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Re: debian-user over NNTP: linux.debian.user (was mailing list vs "the futur")

[Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희, 黃炳熙)]

Dan Purgert  writes:

> Thomas Schmitt wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I really really want to abstain from that thread. So a new one:
>>
>> Gene Heskett wrotei in 'mailing list vs "the futur"':
>>> [...] NNTP [...]
>>> To fully support it needs 2000 times the bandwidth of an email server.
>>
>> But not because of the transport protocoli or message format. NNTP belongs
>> to the same breed of reasonably concise protocols as the mail protocols
>> POP3 and SMTP. The message formats too are very similar: A list of header
>> lines and a message body.
>>
>> [...]
>>
>>   linux.debian.user
>>
>> which should be on most news servers (because it is of modest size).
>
> Yeah, well, least it's on eternal-september (my NNTP provider). I doubt
> they're the most active, but the service is free, and good enough for my
> tastes.

Also i like NNTP service! For now i'm on Gmane, thanks^^^

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Re: Asck some information for start to help Debian

[Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희, 黃炳熙)]

Hellow!!! Ehsan^^^

Ehsan Esteki  writes:

> Hello,
> My name is Ehsan Esteki from Italy. I would like help you to translate
> your guide and wiki in Farsi Language ( Iranian language).
> I would like how can i start to do this for you if is possible and if
> you need my help.
> I wait possibly your feedback.

Plus, debian-...@lists.debian.org is your friend.

Sincerely, Byung-Hee.

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SOLVED (Was: Re: [RESEND] lxde error)

[Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희, 黃炳熙)]

Dear Reco,

Reco  writes:

>   Hi.
>
> On Sun, Aug 05, 2018 at 07:14:15PM +0900, Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희, 黃炳熙) wrote:
>> Sorry Reco, my attached file was somewhat odd. So re-send it as files.
>> 
>
> And now it's getting some sense at last.
> This Crouton thing starts xinit, which in turn starts startlxde, which
> invokes lxsession, which parses files at /etc/xdg/autostart and starts
> lxpolkit along the other things.
>
> lxpolkit, along the other things, invokes
> "polkit_agent_register_listener" library function, which (supposedly
> through DBUS mumbo-jumbo) ends up at "polkit_unix_session_initable_init"
> function.
>
> The choice of names is kind of meh, but that particular function invokes
> "sd_pid_get_owner_uid" function. Being part of systemd (sd-login.c to be
> precise), it's hardly surprising that it returns anything meaningful
> only if the systemd is pid1, user has registered a logind session, etc.
>
> Which is not the case for you, because of the Crouton is written for the
> completely different usecase. Moreover, the man himself spoke on the
> similar issue at [1], and said "lxpolkit is broken, fix it".
>
>
> The remaining question is - what to do with all this?
> I suspect that patching out problematic parts of policykit is out of
> question (it is for me at least), so I propose either:
>
> 1) Removing /etc/xdg/autostart/lxpolkit.desktop.
>
> 2) Replacing /usr/bin/lxpolkit with a symlink to /bin/true.
>
> Reco
>
> [1] https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/833

And now fixed all problem, i just wanted to remove error pop-up window.

Thanks, indeed...^^^

Sincerely, Byung-Hee.

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[SOLVED] (Was: Re: [RESEND] lxde error)

[Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희, 黃炳熙)]

Dear Reco,

Reco  writes:

>   Hi.
>
> On Sun, Aug 05, 2018 at 07:14:15PM +0900, Byung-Hee HWANG (™ë‘, »ƒ‚熙) 
> wrote:
>> Sorry Reco, my attached file was somewhat odd. So re-send it as files.
>> 
>
> And now it's getting some sense at last.
> This Crouton thing starts xinit, which in turn starts startlxde, which
> invokes lxsession, which parses files at /etc/xdg/autostart and starts
> lxpolkit along the other things.
>
> lxpolkit, along the other things, invokes
> "polkit_agent_register_listener" library function, which (supposedly
> through DBUS mumbo-jumbo) ends up at "polkit_unix_session_initable_init"
> function.
>
> The choice of names is kind of meh, but that particular function invokes
> "sd_pid_get_owner_uid" function. Being part of systemd (sd-login.c to be
> precise), it's hardly surprising that it returns anything meaningful
> only if the systemd is pid1, user has registered a logind session, etc.
>
> Which is not the case for you, because of the Crouton is written for the
> completely different usecase. Moreover, the man himself spoke on the
> similar issue at [1], and said "lxpolkit is broken, fix it".
>
>
> The remaining question is - what to do with all this?
> I suspect that patching out problematic parts of policykit is out of
> question (it is for me at least), so I propose either:
>
> 1) Removing /etc/xdg/autostart/lxpolkit.desktop.
>
> 2) Replacing /usr/bin/lxpolkit with a symlink to /bin/true.
>
> Reco
>
> [1] https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/833

And now it is fixed problem, i just wanted to remove error popup-window.

Thanks, indeed...^^^

Sincerely, Byung-Hee.

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Re: [RESEND] lxde error

[Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희, 黃炳熙)]

T BkRl  writes:

> Basically I’m curious how you installed lxde. Did you install it as a group 
> of packages or individual components?

As a chromebook user, i did use Crouton [1].

Sincerely,

[1] https://github.com/dnschneid/crouton

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Re: next LTS version?

[Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희, 黃炳熙)]

In Article <20180704095507.ga20...@darac.org.uk>,
 Darac Marjal  writes:

> [...snip...]
> Bullseye come out some time in 2021 or 2022. So... don't hold your
> breath.

Thank you for kind comments^^^

Sincerely, Byung-Hee.

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Re: How to access this group via NNTP in PAN client.

[Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희, 黃炳熙)]

In Article <20180706153258.xtlrikiswlttk...@randomstring.org>,
 Dan Ritter  writes:

> [...snip...]
> aioe, and gmane -- I can't reach gmane at all right now.

Sorry i am from Gmane, thanks!

Sincerely, Byung-Hee.

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Re: next LTS version?

[Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희, 黃炳熙)]

In Article <201807031752.13571.ghesk...@shentel.net>,
 Gene Heskett  writes:

> Greetings all;
>
> Since wheezy is pretty much EOL even for security stuffs, whats the next 
> version that will be LTS?
>
> As a linuxcnc fan, I'd like to know what I have to build a rt, or 
> rtai-kernel on.
>

Well i don't know what LTS is, however day by day i am waiting for
 Bullseye, very much!!! 

Sincerely, Byung-Hee.

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Re: Problem to resolv many hosts

[Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희, 黃炳熙)]

Hello Tiago!!!

In Article ,
 Tiago Oliveira de Jesus  writes:

> All ok, but now:
>
> *root@bkp2:~# host www.walmart.com.br*
> ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached

(precise)soyeomul@localhost:~$ cat /etc/resolv.conf
nameserver 192.168.43.1
options single-request timeout:1 attempts:5

Mine is Ubuntu on Chromebook. Just check /etc/resolv.conf. If you are
running DNS server, it is better to remove them. Local DNS server make
trouble(s) sometimes.   

Sincerely, Byung-Hee.

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Re: Compatible laptops

[Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희, 黃炳熙)]

In Article <7b17f175-2608-c4de-e06c-15c84b5ed...@verizon.net>,
 Maureen L Thomas  writes:

> [...sorry for snip...]
> debian.  I do not need a game playing machine.  If there is a list
> [...]

How about Chromebook? In my case, i am willing to install Debian into
ARM64 [MT8173] Chromebook if i get a good chance.

Sincerely, Byung-Hee.

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Re: Debian on ARM Chromebook: how to get touchpad working?

[Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희, 黃炳熙)]

In Article ,
 Karl Noss  writes:

> I’m running stretch on an ASUS C201
> (https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Asus/C201) and I’m totally
> lost as to how to make the touchpad work. I’m not sure if the system
> even sees the device.
>
> I’d appreciate it if someone could help me debug this. Here is some
> info from my system:
>
> root@meus:/# uname -a
> Linux meus 4.9.0-4-armmp-lpae #1 SMP Debian 4.9.51-1 (2017-09-28)
> armv7l GNU/Linux
> [...long line snip...]

You are detail man, wow! Also i'm using chromebook, not ARM. And i did
install Ubuntu via Crouton. In this case, i could not help you,
sorry. Simply i did buy usb mouse. That is my solution. Again sorry for
off topic off solution.  

Sincerely, Byung-Hee.

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Re: off topic: uptime question

[Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희, 黃炳熙)]

> This function is made for the formatting of *dates*, not *time intervals.
>
> That would mean that you might get even funnier results if your uptime
> is more than (around) 30-31 days.

I did understand. For now my chromebook uptime is over 30 days, thanks!

Sincerely, Byung-Hee.

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Re: off topic: uptime question

[Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희, 黃炳熙)]

In Article <17430759904711630...@scdbackup.webframe.org>,
 "Thomas Schmitt"  writes:

> [...]
> (You should better compute the time interval days from the seconds
>  difference. %d will probably rollover at 31.)

Thank you for good point, indeed;;;

Sincerely, Byung-Hee.

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off topic: uptime question

[Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희, 黃炳熙)]

#+BEGIN_SRC ruby
require "date"

uptime_data = IO.read('/proc/uptime').split[0].to_i
sboot = Time.now - uptime_data

if uptime_data >= 86400
uptime = Time.at(uptime_data).utc.strftime("%d days %H:%M")
else
uptime = Time.at(uptime_data).utc.strftime("%H:%M")
end

puts uptime.to_s + " (" + sboot.to_s + ")"
#+END_SRC

Then i do ruby cmd and shell cmd at Ubuntu (chromebook).
Ruby: 28 days 09:23 (Tue Sep 26 15:19:58 +0900 2017)
Bash: 00:43:33 up 27 days,  9:23,  0 users,  load average: 0.01, 0.10, 0.21

Why the result is different? Ruby result is more 1 day than shell result.
Guide me please... thanks in advance^^^

Sincerely, Byung-Hee.

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Re: attach a big picture This username is already in use. Stupid Yahoo mail won't let me in I am sorry, Cars Street signs etc,

[Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희, 黃炳熙)]

In Article ,
 Ben Caradoc-Davies  writes:

> On 21/10/17 19:49, arne wrote:
>>> I am in a desperate situation, thanks!
>> https://paste.debian.net/  does not work at the moment either :(
>> I am out of luck
>
> You can upload to your Google Drive, share the link (this turns on
> link sharing, anyone with the link can view by default), and paste the
> link into an email. You can also attach images to Debian BTS bug
> reports but you will likely get better help here unless you can
> identify the package responsible for your problem.

This is good, thanks for information^^^
 
Sincerely, Byung-Hee.

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Re: Face header and Thunderbird

[Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희, 黃炳熙)]

In Article <865dea1b-52f1-f6e5-8432-542440ce4...@walnut.gen.nz>,
 Richard Hector  writes:

> Hi all,
>
> Apologies for the thread hijack, but this issue does relate to Brad's
> message ...
>
> When I read email from Brad Rogers and a few others, they contain a
> 'face' header (different from X-Face, which is also there).
>
> For whatever reason, Thunderbird always displays this header in the
> 'Normal' view - and it's huge, taking up about 17 lines. But in Normal
> view, no scrollbar is provided for the header section, so it expands to
> leave about 3 lines for reading the email.
>
> Oddly, I can work around this by switching to "All Headers" view, which
> gives me a scrollbar, lets me reduce the header section, and allows me
> to read the mail.
>
> Do other Thunderbird users see the same thing? I asked once before, but
> started a new thread, and nobody answered ...
>
> Have you, Brad, and others using this header, had discussions with other
> recipients of your mail about how to deal with it?
>
> I'm not suggesting you should stop sending this header, as it appears to
> be a valid one, but any tips about how to deal with it, or how to
> persuade Thunderbird devs to deal with it (see [1])? I don't know if
> Thunderbird maintainers look at old Icedove bugs ... do I need to
> re-report it?
>
> Cheers,
> Richard
> [1] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=846086

Hello Richard,
 
I read your thought. If so, you would be better to change mail program
for support Face and X-Face headers. How about Gnus [1]? 

Sincerely, Byung-Hee.

[1]
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/soyeomul/Gnus/MaGnus/ss/Face-and-X-Face.png

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Re: getting mail from Exchange/Outlook

[Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희, 黃炳熙)]

In Article <201709131932.v8djwxmd016...@syrano.acb.uc.edu>,
 Steve Kleene  writes:

> My employer is forcing me to shut down my long-time Linux mail server.  I
> have no choice in the matter.
>
> My employer uses Microsoft Exchange/Outlook for mail.  They have an Outlook
> Web App (OWA) that I can access from Firefox, but as far as I can tell you
> cannot save a file to the local disk with OWA.  That makes OWA pretty
> useless.  The documentation, if it can be believed, says that I can access
> Outlook with POP3 and IMAP4 programs including Thunderbird.
>
> If any of you have experience and/or advice with this problem, I'd be
> grateful to hear it.

Somewhat it is off topic, how about forwarding? If it is possible at the
server, then things are easy.

Sincerely, Byung-Hee.

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Re: Laptop recommendation

[Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희, 黃炳熙)]

In Article <20170903133817.hppdseouwbc3kvjk@grond>,
 Jonas Hedman  writes:

> Hello I hope that is not OT for this list.
>
> Basically I'm on the hunt for a newish laptop on which I naturally want
> to run Debian. I'm a student and I spend most of my daily outandabout 
> computer time reading pdfs, writing LaTeX docs, surfing and doing some 
> light coding, no heavy duty stuff in other words. I use i3vm and I
> generally like to keep things as light and minimal as feasibly possible.
>
> I really value light weight and good battery life and my upper bound on prize
> is somewhere around 875$ (~7K SEK). Memory should be greater than or
> equal to 2GB and an sdd would be nice.
>
> I know very little about hardware and I'm not quite sure where or how to 
> start looking. I though the Lenovo Thinkpad 13 looked promising but it's a 
> bit 
> over my price target. Could chromeboosk be something to look into? I
> know the older thinkpads has good debian support but if I remember
> correctly they are also very heavy.
>
> As a small reference: I made due with a Asus EEE PC 1005HA for a number 
> of years and it generally worked well for my purposes but it died and
> surfing was a pain so I'm looking to upgrade a bit from that.
>
> Any suggestions?

There is no option for intalling under chromebook. People should install Linux
always with chromebook. That is why i did buy chromebook. Someone did
try to install FreeBSD, but it is very very very hard. 

Actually i am happy with Linux in chromebook~  

Sincerely, Byung-Hee.

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Re: Recommended editor for novice programmers?

[Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희, 黃炳熙)]

In Article ,
 Tom Browder  writes:

> My Linux user group is setting up one desktop computer [...]

Well i just like to use Github with Emacs in real life. As you know i'm
writer, not programer. 

Thanks!!!

Sincerely, Byung-Hee.

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Re: How to change date and time format for quoting in Thunderbird?

[Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희, 黃炳熙)]

Dear Mario,

In Article <71bb9099-1dac-7567-3aeb-4c1c0ecd8...@yandex.com>,
 Mario Castelán Castro  writes:

> I see you are using the “Message-id” field. This is not at all useful
> for humans.

"lambda.alex.chromebook" is my chromebook's system-name. The others is
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/soyeomul/Gnus/MaGnus/thanks-mid.rb.message-id

Am i wrong? If so, welcome to advice, thanks!
 
Sincerely, Byung-Hee.

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Re: How to change date and time format for quoting in Thunderbird?

[Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희, 黃炳熙)]

In Article <3af44f03-ebc9-473c-2d77-36961f66d...@yandex.com>,
 Mario Castelán Castro  writes:

> When replying to a message in Thunderbird as packaged in Debian 9, the
> date and time is automatically placed before the quote, like this: “On
> 22/08/17 17:31, $NAME wrote:”. How can I change the format used for the
> date and time? In addition, I want to change the format of $NAME to
> include his e-mail address a well.

Sorry, i don't know Thunderbird. By the way, recently i did change them
on Gnus (News/Email client of Emacs).

Sincerely, Byung-Hee.

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Re: The End

[Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희, 黃炳熙)]

Just attached failure screenshot:
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/soyeomul/stuff/master/tunnel-broker-said-20170818.png

Thanks!!!

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Re: The End

[Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희, 黃炳熙)]

Dear Eike,

Eike Lantzsch  께서 쓰시길,
 《記事 全文 <1677989.mZZlnEaY7I@lxcl01> 에서》:

> in that case it might help to install he.net - Network Tools by Hurricane 
> Electric on your smartphone to analyze the problem further.

#+BEGIN_TXT 1st 

Local IPv6 Devices (by NDP)

# This router is "Samsung Galaxy S 7" smartphone. 
# The Mac address is [94:76:B7:98:3B:7D].

# Belows are neighbor devices by mobile hotspot.

[1] Samsung Galaxy S 3 smartphone 
IPv6 address: fe80::2acc:1ff:fe56:9a85
MAC address: [28:CC:01:56:9A:85] # Samsung Electronics

[2] Google Chromebook (Codename: Alex)
IPv6 address: fe80::d2df:9aff:fe6d:fa7f
MAC address: [D0:DF:9A:6D:FA:7F] # Liteon Technology Corporation

#+END_TXT

At 1st, Ubuntu 12.04 was installed at [2].

#+BEGIN_TXT 2nd

(rmnet1): This is an interface of router (Samsung Galaxy S 7 smartphone).

MULTICAST
Enabled

MTU
1440

APNIC
2001:2d8:665f:91d::155c:6e76
 ^^^ <- changes after every reboot

Link-Local
fe80::155c:6e76
  ^ <- changes after every reboot

#+END_TXT

At 2nd, by ipv6-test.com, the router(Samsung Galaxy S 7) itself connect
to public INTERNET via rmnet1 interface. 

Still i did not touch Ubuntu's config files. How is next step for
success? Still may i have hope? 

Sincerely, Byung-Hee.

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Re: The End

[Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희, 黃炳熙)]

Dear Eike,

Eike Lantzsch  께서 쓰시길,
 《記事 全文 <1768501.bNH75oQlMl@lxcl01> 에서》:

> Don't know if this is relevant:
> I had the problem of not pingable IP with my cable-ISP. ISP told me that they 
> are not blocking anything. Turned out that the Motorola cable modem blocked 
> the ICMP packages and it could not be convinced to let them through. 
> Lightning 
> "solved" this problem - ISP installed another modem (another brand) which I 
> can now happily configure myself and voila: IP is pingable.
>
> So maybe that it's not your ISP but the d... modem?

Thanks for kind replying. But my ISP is Samsung Galaxy smartphone (mobile
hotspot). I have no idea still. Again, thanks for your time, indeed ...

Sincerely, Byung-Hee.

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The End (Was: Re: IPv6 for Ubuntu on Chromebook)

[Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희, 黃炳熙)]

>> B. You have a tunnel account for IPv6 service.

Just i did try, but the tunnel broker said:

"IP is not ICMP pingable. Please make sure ICMP is not blocked."

Well i have no lucky for IPv6, thanks!!!

Sincerely, Byung-Hee.

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Re: [OT] Valid DKIM signature

[Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희, 黃炳熙)]

> It would be best not to reply to it (unless you feel like replying

Thanks, Andy!!!

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Re: IPv6 for Ubuntu on Chromebook

[Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희, 黃炳熙)]

> B. You have a tunnel account for IPv6 service.

Thanks, Dan^^

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[OT] Valid DKIM signature (Was: Re: I want to rejoice like a queen. Pauline)

[Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희, 黃炳熙)]

Robert Villeneuve  께서 쓰시길,
 《記事 全文 <1249917413.723454.1502628018...@mail.yahoo.com> 에서》:

> Would you be my king?  
> http://bitly.com/2vDwoQj

By the way the mail got valid DKIM signature. Please explain to me why
the mail is here. It's odd. Please Please Please ...

Sincerely,

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IPv6 for Ubuntu on Chromebook

[Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희, 黃炳熙)]

Dear Debian people,

#+BEGIN_SRC sh
(precise)soyeomul@localhost:~$ sudo ifconfig
loLink encap:Local Loopback  
  inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
  inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
  UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:65536  Metric:1
  RX packets:184 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:184 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 
  RX bytes:11712 (11.7 KB)  TX bytes:11712 (11.7 KB)

wlan0 Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr d0:df:9a:6d:fa:7f  
  inet addr:192.168.43.237  Bcast:192.168.43.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
  inet6 addr: fe80::d2df:9aff:fe6d:fa7f/64 Scope:Link
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:130108 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:114409 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 
  RX bytes:84608453 (84.6 MB)  TX bytes:18723437 (18.7 MB)

(precise)soyeomul@localhost:~$ 
#+END_SRC

My hardware is google chromebook. Then i installed *Ubuntu 12.04* via
Crouton on the chromebook. Currently i'm doing connect with IPv4
address. Samsung Galaxy 7 smartphone (mobile hotspot) is the gateway for
public INTERNET.   
  
Question: Can i configure IPv6 address to establish public INTERNET? 

Sincerely,

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Re: Why debian put ~/bin beginning of $PATH

[Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희, 黃炳熙)]

> Why put ~/bin beginning ?

2 weeks ago, i installed new Ruby. At that time it was proper to me. By
the Debian rule, users can test new program. Yes i think in positive. 

Sincerely,

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Re: Last spam: Let me know Munich Mayor's email address, please..

[Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희, 黃炳熙)]

Andre Müller  께서 쓰시길,
 《記事 全文
 
 에서》:

> [...]
> Fuck politicians, die in pain, burn in hell!

I did send my letter with all my spiritual energy. If he(Munich Mayor)
do not do rethink, i am willing to go airport, indeed..

Sincerely,
Byung-Hee from South Korea

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Re: Getting Involved with Packaging [was Re: Building Debian Package From Upstream Source]

[Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희, 黃炳熙)]

> [...]
> Start here: https://wiki.debian.org/HelpDebian

Yes, i know my position is translation, thanks!!!

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Re: off topic -- Gmane (HTTP) is now online!

[Byung-Hee HWANG]

On 2016년 9월 10일 오후 11시 40분 22초 GMT+09:00, "Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희)" 
 wrote:
>Just type http://gmane.org in web browser firefox or chrome. 
> (..)

If you have get some bugs such as broken links/newsgroups, please say to 
newsgroup gmane.discuss(gmane-disc...@quimby.gnus.org) please please please!!!

Dear Debian forks,

Thank! Thanks! Thanks!
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Re: Decentralized reliable instant messaging?

[Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희)]

Hellow Darac!

Darac Marjal  께서 쓰시길,
 《記事 全文 <20160908114300.k4ss4l63okr62...@darac.org.uk> 에서》:

> [...snip long lines...]
> This is where Debian differs from the "ideals" of the Free Software
> Foundation. (...)

So i prefer Debian to FSF, thanks!

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Re: Decentralized reliable instant messaging?

[Byung-Hee HWANG]

On 2016년 9월 8일 오전 8시 56분 7초 GMT+09:00, Michael Lange  
wrote:
>On Thu, 08 Sep 2016 08:00:25 +0900
>Byung-Hee HWANG  wrote:
>
>> OK Stefan. I have to say that i like you. Because you really love
>Free
>> Software policy. However i cannot tell people to use Free Software.
>> Free Software policy is too stric to keep. Instead, i tell poeple
>that
>> open source software is useful and good. 
>> 
>> Anyway i respect Debian project, except Free Software policy. 
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> -- 
>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
>
>If I am not mistaken, K-9 Mail actually is free software, too :-)
>
>Regards
>
>Michael
>
>
>.-.. .. ...- .   .-.. --- -. --.   .- -. -..   .--. .-. --- ... .--. .
>.-.
>
>When a child is taught ... its programmed with simple instructions --
>and at some point, if its mind develops properly, it exceeds the sum of
>what it was taught, thinks independently.
>   -- Dr. Richard Daystrom, "The Ultimate Computer",
>  stardate 4731.3.

Dear Stefan, deloptes and Michael,

My meant is that 100% rules/policy is not easy to keep for FSF-like Free 
Software by the definition. The base my mind is for FOSS things. Only in real 
life i have some trouble because my country Korea is still under MS-Windows 
softwares also my shop use Windows XP for work. 

Thanks!
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Re: Decentralized reliable instant messaging?

[Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희)]

deloptes  께서 쓰시길,
 《記事 全文  에서》:

> [...]
> South Korea - an example of democracy (irony off)

OK. North Korea is "_Democratic_ People's Republic of Korea"
officially. Anyway, someday far later, we will do unify to one like as
Germany.

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Re: [Rant] The Endless Search for a Mail Client That Doesn't Suck

[Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희)]

Hellow!

No Spam  께서 쓰시길,
 《記事 全文 <20160828210616.GC2923@jens-ThinkPad-Edge-E145> 에서》:

> Hi,
>
> So it is 12 years later;
>
> has someone found something working?

For now i use Gnus.
 by the way it is hard to recomend you.
It is not easy to handle. 
The ~/.gnus.el is changed, all the time!

Sincerely,

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Re: Internationalisation

[Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희)]

On 2016년 7월 17일 오후 6시 11분 25초 GMT+09:00, Mark Fletcher  
wrote:
>Hello list
>
>I'm trying to set up multi-lingual capability on a new-installed Debian
>Stretch machine, I can't get Japanese input to work and ...

Mark, 

FYI, Google's Noto CJK font is good/perfact for UTF-8 environments, i'm using 
now it  under Ubuntu 12.04.

Debian also have Noto CJK fonts as package.

Sincerely,

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Re: Debian support for samsung chromebook

[Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희)]

On 2016년 7월 7일 오전 11시 46분 11초 GMT+09:00, Jacob Adams  wrote:
>(Please CC me as I am not subscribed)
>
>I have an old samsung arm chromebook that I would like to try and
>install Debian on. The wiki has a page on it
>(https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Samsung/ARMChromebook ) but
>the process it uses requires copying the chromeos kernel and only
>installs to a usb or sdcard. According to the linux-exynos wiki
>(http://linux-exynos.org/wiki/ARM_Chromebook/Mainline_Linux_kernel )
>there is now mainline support for this device in Linux and a  defconfig
>for it  (exynos).
>
>I would like to install to the internal ssd with a default kernel so
>that it still get updates. It this possible or will I have to build my
>own kernel?

My chromebook(Codename: Alex) is now charging. According to my three days test, 
Crouton is enough to use. That is easy to install. 

Otherewise you should go to chromium project (chrome os discuss forum[1]). In 
there, you could talk to Jedi developers about custom build for {linux and 
chrom os}.

Try to Crouton, in first;

Sincerely,

[1] chromium-os-disc...@chromium.org

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Re: off topic: chromebook

[Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희)]

On 2016년 6월 24일 오전 1시 8분 38초 GMT+09:00, Curt  wrote:
> [...]
>Another possibility is to run Debian on a Chromebook within a chroot
>(open source project):
>
>https://github.com/dnschneid/crouton

Crouton: it seems easy to install something. 

Firstly i will try it after buy chromebook. 

Thanks Curt!

Sincerely,

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Re: off topic: chromebook

[Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희)]

On 2016년 6월 23일 오후 11시 36분 36초 GMT+09:00, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
>-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
>Hash: SHA1
>
>On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 10:17:33PM +0900, Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희) wrote:
>> On 2016년 6월 23일 오후 9시 19분 10초 GMT+09:00, Patrick Wiseman
> wrote:
>> >A Google search ...
>> 
>> Patrick, thanks for comments.
>> 
>> Good to know about NaCl. 
>> 
>> However, possibly i like to install Emacs on Debian Linux or *BSD. 
>> That is my worry with chromebook.
>
>Poossibly I don't understand. Do you want to install Debian on the
>Chromebook?
>
>That will depend on the hardware. But once you get running Debian on
>it, Emacs won't be a big problem.
>
>Not a complete list, but perhaps this is worthwile:
>
>  https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/
>
>Two randomly chosen Chromebooks there:
>
>  https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Acer/C710-2615-Chromebook
>  https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Samsung/ARMChromebook
>
>Typically you'll get problems with some hardware support (suspend,
>bluetooth, video...) but those are not crucial for Emacs to work
>properly.
>
>But perhaps I didn't understand you properly.
>
>Regards
>- -- tomás

Yes, tomas, welcome to comments!

As you said, i have to prepare proper chromebook to run Debian Linux (Stretch 
or Jessie) or *BSD by 100-150$. Because android smart phone's display (4.8") is 
too small to edit wml files for translation, plus i need real keyboard.

I'll read the links from you tomas and buy chromebook. After install all, then 
i do edit wml files with Emacs day by day~

Thanks tomas again! You are good friend!

Sincerely,

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