RE: /boot

[CHEONG, Shu Yang \[Patrick\]]

Yes, it should be more than enough unless you intend to keep numerous copies
of your kernel for diferrent purposes...10mb should be more than
sufficient.

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> -Original Message-
> From: ColdWater [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2000 8:51 AM
> To:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject:  /boot
> 
> List,
> 
> First of all, hi to everyone!
> Now...
> I've finished my download of CD-Binary 1 and i'm ready to install Debian
> Potato. I'm reading the manuals and, after some How-tos I intend to
> install
> it. (Erase the Red Hat and put it on; leaving Win);
> I have a little question and I hope someone from the list could help me
> with
> it.
> Even with the boot in before the 1024cil,  is it recomended to to create a
> /boot partion?
> Is it good, bad or it does not matter? What about it's size. 10Mb is
> enough?
> 
> Thanks!
> Custodio, L. C. - Brazil!
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> 
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RE: /boot

[CHEONG, Shu Yang \[Patrick\]]

I have read somewhere on the Net that the newer lilo can now handle beyond
the 1024 cyclinder barriercan anyone confirm this to be true...

A question tha I have:-

I noticed that grub comes on the 2.2 cdsafter I dpkg -i...how do I
remove lilo and configure and use grub instead to boot my linux boxwhich
have all but /boot running reiserfs

Patrick Cheong
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> -Original Message-
> From: Matthias Mann [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2000 5:33 PM
> To:   ColdWater; debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject:  Re: /boot
> 
> Hi, you will need the files in /boot bevore cylinder 1024, because your
> BIOS
> can´t read anything after this border. And the BIOS starts the booting. If
> you like to install Linux and another OS like M$-Windows on one harddisk,
> it
> is recommended to create an own partition for /boot. I have 8 MB for this.
> That is more then enough cause the files in /boot takes 1 MB. If you like
> to
> install only  Debian on your harddisk you don´t need this /boot-partition.
> But you must set the partition / at the beginnig of your harddisk. This is
> neccessary. Cause this is then the bootpartition too and needs a beginning
> bevore cylinder 1024.
> 
> Matthias
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: ColdWater <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2000 2:50 AM
> Subject: /boot
> 
> 
> > List,
> >
> > First of all, hi to everyone!
> > Now...
> > I've finished my download of CD-Binary 1 and i'm ready to install Debian
> > Potato. I'm reading the manuals and, after some How-tos I intend to
> install
> > it. (Erase the Red Hat and put it on; leaving Win);
> > I have a little question and I hope someone from the list could help me
> with
> > it.
> > Even with the boot in before the 1024cil,  is it recomended to to create
> a
> > /boot partion?
> > Is it good, bad or it does not matter? What about it's size. 10Mb is
> enough?
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Custodio, L. C. - Brazil!
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
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RE: a whole bunch of questions

[CHEONG, Shu Yang \[Patrick\]]

What I normally do is cp the .Xauthority from /home/ to /root and
starting X as root would then be okHowever, I am unsure whether this
would compromise certain security features, etcCan anyone on the list
comment on this method?


Not sure about the sound card problem...what does your lsmod show...are the
modules being loaded correctly..are you using the correct moduels which
support your sound card?

Patrick Cheong
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> -Original Message-
> From: robert_wilhelm_land [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 12:10 AM
> To:   debian-user
> Subject:  a whole bunch of questions
> 
> When trying to start emacs out of a xterm with su permissions the
> system complaines:
> 
> MINI:/home/rland# emacs
> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
> Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server
> emacs: Cannot connect to X server :0.0.
> Check the DISPLAY environment variable or use `-d'.
> Also use the `xhost' program to verify that it is set to permit
> connections from your machine.
> MINI:/home/rland# emacs
> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
> Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server
> emacs: Cannot connect to X server :0.0.
> Check the DISPLAY environment variable or use `-d'.
> Also use the `xhost' program to verify that it is set to permit
> connections from your machine.
> MINI:/home/rland# cd ~
> MINI:~# xhost
> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
> Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server
> xhost:  unable to open display ":0.0"
> 
> ...whereas launching emacs as a ordinary user (rland) works fine. What
> exactly should I edit to allow su doing the same?
> 
> The error recommends to use "xhost"  - but this seems to be a GUI app
> and therefore dies for the same reasons as previously launching emacs. 
> How can I help myself, would running xhost fruit in a working GUI when
> changing to su?
> 
> 
> 
> Then, I cannot get my Diamond Sonic Impact 90 to work. gtcd starts,
> accepts the CD, playes the first track but the speakers remain
> quitely.
> The linuxdoc howto states no support for this card but the distributer
> SuSe maintaines a database which plots out:
> 
> these cards should be supported by Aureal and OSS 
> look at http://linux.aureal.com/
> CHIPSET - AU8820
> 
> 
> When installing deb2.2 I marked the OSS driver as a module and now
> I cannot really track the problem.:
> **
> /var/log/messages displays:
> 
> Oct 23 15:06:13 MINI kernel: hdd: STINGRAY 8422 IDE 8X CD-ROM 7-27-95,
> ATAPI CDROM drive
> Oct 23 15:06:13 MINI kernel: ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14  
> Oct 23 15:06:13 MINI kernel: ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
> Oct 23 15:06:13 MINI kernel: hda: ST32140A, 2015MB w/128kB Cache,
> CHS=1023/64/63
> Oct 23 15:06:13 MINI kernel: hdc: QUANTUM BIGFOOT1280A, 1226MB w/87kB
> Cache, CHS=2492/16/63
> Oct 23 15:06:13 MINI kernel: hdd: ATAPI 2X CD-ROM drive, 240kB Cache
> Oct 23 15:06:13 MINI kernel: Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.11
> Oct 23 15:06:13 MINI kernel: Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M
> Oct 23 15:06:13 MINI kernel: FDC 0 is a post-1991 82077
> Oct 23 15:06:13 MINI kernel: md driver 0.36.6 MAX_MD_DEV=4, MAX_REAL=8
> Oct 23 15:06:13 MINI kernel: scsi:  Detection failed (no
> card)
> Oct 23 15:06:13 MINI kernel: NCR53c406a: no available ports found 
> Oct 23 15:06:13 MINI kernel: sym53c416.c: Version 1.0.0
> Oct 23 15:06:13 MINI kernel: Failed initialization of WD-7000 SCSI
> card!
> Oct 23 15:06:13 MINI kernel: IBM MCA SCSI: No Microchannel-bus support
> present -> Aborting.
> Oct 23 15:06:13 MINI kernel: megaraid: v107 (December 22, 1999)   
> Oct 23 15:06:13 MINI kernel: aec671x_detect:
> Oct 23 15:06:13 MINI kernel: 3w-: tw_findcards(): No cards found.
> Oct 23 15:06:13 MINI kernel: scsi : 0 hosts.
> Oct 23 15:06:13 MINI kernel: scsi : detected total.
> Oct 23 15:06:13 MINI kernel: Partition check:
> Oct 23 15:06:13 MINI kernel:  hda: hda1 hda2 < hda5 hda6 >
> Oct 23 15:06:13 MINI kernel:  hdc: [PTBL] [623/64/63] hdc1 < hdc5 >
> Oct 23 15:06:13 MINI kernel: VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem)
> readonly.
> Oct 23 15:06:13 MINI kernel: Freeing unused kernel memory: 140k freed
> Oct 23 15:06:13 MINI kernel: NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0 for Linux
> NET4.0.
> Oct 23 15:06:13 MINI kernel: Adding Swap: 114876k swap-space (priority
> -1)
> Oct 23 15:06:13 MINI kernel: Installing knfsd (copyright (C) 1996
> [EMAIL PROTECTED])
> Oct 23 15:06:13 MINI kernel: NTFS version 000607
> Oct 23 15:06:13 MINI kernel: Linux video capture interface: v1.00
> Oct 23 15:06:13 MINI kernel: rtl8139.c:v1.07 5/6/99 Donald Becker
> http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/linux/driver
> s/rtl8139.html
> Oct 23 15:06:13 MINI kernel: eth0: RealTek RTL8139 Fast Ethernet at
> 0xec00, IRQ 11, 00:00:21:d9:37:b2.
> Oct 23 15:13:11 MINI syslogd 1.3-3#33: restart.
> Oct 23 15:26:12 MINI -- MARK

RE: a whole bunch of questions

[CHEONG, Shu Yang \[Patrick\]]

If you have got the correct modules loaded...you'd need to chmod your
/dev/dsp and /dev/audio to allow your username write access to the
devices.try chmod 666 on the above devices!


HTH, YMMV

Patrick Cheong
Information Systems Assurance
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> -Original Message-
> From: Dave Sherohman [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 1:11 AM
> To:   robert_wilhelm_land
> Cc:   debian-user
> Subject:  Re: a whole bunch of questions
> 
> On Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 06:10:01PM +0200, robert_wilhelm_land wrote:
> > The error recommends to use "xhost"  - but this seems to be a GUI app
> > and therefore dies for the same reasons as previously launching emacs. 
> > How can I help myself, would running xhost fruit in a working GUI when
> > changing to su?
> 
> No, xhost isn't a GUI app, but you have to run in as the user you actually
> logged in as (mosr specifically, as the user who owns the X session), not
> sued to root.  By default, root neither has permission to open windows on
> your desktop, nor to give himself that permission.
> 
> BTW, if you're going to use xhost (it's not the most secure way of
> handling
> this, but it is the easiest), use 'xhost localhost', not the name of your
> machine.  It'll open the door wide enough for anyone on your machine to
> put
> windows on your desktop, but without allowing any possibility for someone
> to
> do it over the network.
> 
> > Then, I cannot get my Diamond Sonic Impact 90 to work. gtcd starts,
> > accepts the CD, playes the first track but the speakers remain
> > quitely.
> 
> Have you turned the volume up?  Try gom ('gom -it' on a command line) or
> another mixer to see what your volume settings are if you haven't already.
> 
> > Oct 23 16:13:44 MINI kernel: hdd: packet command error: status=0x51 {
> > DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
> > Oct 23 16:13:44 MINI kernel: hdd: packet command error: error=0x40
> 
> > Which line could relate to the soundcard?
> 
> None of them are sound-related, but it looks like you've got some definite
> problems with your CDROM.
> 
> > ...which states there should be somewhere a sound module, but 
> > cat /etc/modules.conf|grep -A 4 sound 
> > returnes no output.
> 
> Did you build your own kernel?  If so, did you remember to make modules
> and
> make modules_install?  (Or module_install...  I can never remember which
> it
> is...)
> 
> > Does dselect build up a database for all indexed packages? I cannot
> > find wine by running "dpkg -l wine" or "dpkg -l | grep wine" although
> > the debian installation routine was fed by all 4 CD's. Neither does
> > dpkg seem to support a query routine simular to rpm.
> 
> A database of available packages is maintained by apt.  To search it, use
> `apt-cache search packagename`.  Once you know the name of the package,
> you
> can get the details on it with `apt-cache show packagename`.
> 
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RE: Basic Kernel Question

[CHEONG, Shu Yang \[Patrick\]]

See below.

Patrick Cheong
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> -Original Message-
> From: Sean 'Shaleh' Perry [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 1:08 AM
> To:   Jay Kelly
> Cc:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject:  RE: Basic Kernel Question
> 
> 
> However for that to work you need to either a) compile support for the
> common
> file systems into the kernel or b) auto load all of those modules at boot.
> [CHEONG, Shu Yang (Patrick)]  There is a module named autofs, which as I
> understand "auto" loads the necessary fs modules which have not been
> compiled into the kernel. Also, with this module loaded from "modutils",
> you do not have to put the "-t fs" when doing a mount..
> 
I you use msdos and vfat floppies often, then I'd suggest you either
compile these into the kernel (personally, I prefer the other choice) or
compile these as modules (my preferred choice) and have these automatically
loaded during system startup.

HTH  

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RE: Screen Capture

[CHEONG, Shu Yang \(Patrick\)]

Try imagemagick with screenshot...I think or something like that ...its part
of the Gnome desktop environment

> -Original Message-
> From: Michal Novak [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 9:23 PM
> To:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject:  Screen Capture
> 
> 
> I need screen capture program for X, which capture complete screen as
> is.
> Thn for your tips.
> 
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[no subject]

[CHEONG, Shu Yang \(Patrick\)]

Mahadev,

You could seriously get yourself flamed for asking such questions on the
mailing list without checking it out first yourself. PLEASE, visit
http://www.debian.org and also
http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/frozen/main/binary-i386/base (for Intel)
and look for the kernel-image debs 

Patrick Cheong

RE: RE: Samba Setup

[CHEONG, Shu Yang \(Patrick\)]

That's easy..i.e. viewing and accessing a Windows 95/98/NT share from a
Linux box. Use smbclient or smbmount. For example, say you have a shared
directory on the M$ Windows box ("c:\My Documents" on the computer
"Windoze"), on your Linux box, execute the following to make sure the share
is available for either viewing/ accessing or mounting:

> smbclient -U% -L windoze

I can't quite recall how the output screen looks like (since I am writing
this using a M$ Windoze program...yup would you believe it! The company
which I work for does not allow any other OS! [EMAIL PROTECTED]&) but it should 
show you
the the available shares on Windoze and also the names of other computers on
the same subnet (domain?).

To access the shared directory (similar to using ftp) issue the following
command:

> smbclient "//windoze/My Documents" -U username(Note the inverted
commas as the path includes a space)

You will be prompted for a password:

> Password:

Type in the corresponding password for the user username.

You should then see the smb prompt:

smb>

The commands should be similar to ftp commands.

If you want to skip the password step, execute the following:

> smbclient "//windoze/My Documents" -U username -P password

But this allows someone overlooking you shopulder to view your password in
clear text (which is why I prefer the latter without the -P).

For mounting a smb share, execute the following:

> smbmount -o username=username,password=password "//windoze/My Documents"
/mount point/

To check that the mount was successful, do a:
> df -h

I use this quite frequently in my previous company for performing backup of
Windoze boxes to Linux boxes using Samba!


Patrick Cheong

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> -Original Message-
> From: Walter Williams [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, July 07, 2000 3:23 AM
> To:   Debian ListServer (E-mail)
> Subject:  RE: RE: Samba Setup
> 
> Hello 
> 
> I setup and got Samba working with a Win95 machine.
> Under the "My Computer" you right click on the item
> you want to share and select "Sharing" from that
> menu and set up the item for sharing. It's pretty
> easy to understand. In the Control Panel, Network,
> setup your you'r Windows system to have the same 
> "Workgroup" name that you are in on your Linux system.
> And give your Windows box a unique "Computer name".
> Then you have to edit your samba.conf file on your 
> Linux system according to the instructions. I was
> able to edit most of this without looking at the 
> instructions much, as most of the file samba.conf 
> file is setup in a logical fashion. I used a text 
> editor. You can even set up "your" Linux home 
> directory as a share. Then when you login on 
> Windows and click on "Network Neighborhood" 
> you will have access to your home directory. 
> You can even setup your home directory to be seen 
> from "My Computer" be doing a little drive mapping.
> FYI, you have to have your Windows network setup 
> with an IP address and NetEUI for all this to work.
> 
> The thing I never did figure out how to do was to 
> access the windows shares from Linux. This was 
> because my wife started whining about how since
> I setup a network that it was slowing down her
> computer.
> 
> Well I hope this helps
> Walt in Colorado
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Kent West [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, 06 July, 2000 12:12 PM
> To: Jay Kelly
> Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: Samba Setup
> 
> 
> Jay Kelly wrote:
> > 
> > Hello All,
> > I thought I would take a crack at Samba so I installed Samba. Now
> > what do I need to do for my window98 clients to log in to samba? What
> > change to my network setting will I need to make? Will my Primary
> Network
> > Login be Microsoft Family or Client for Microsoft Networks? Do I need
> > to change my Domain to point to Samba?
> > Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> > Thanks
> > Jay
> 
> I'm not sure how to set up Samba to function as a domain
> controller, which your question implies you're trying to do.
> However, if you're just trying to share out stuff, like hard
> drives, folders, and printers, do the following.
> 
> You'll need to edit /etc/samba/smb.conf to "define" your
> "shares"; with the comments sprinkled throughout, it's fairly
> intuitive for the basics. (You can also use SWAT (apt-get install
> swat) for a web-based configuration tool, but I've never had any
> success with it.)
> 
> Then, IIRC, you'll need to run smbpasswd to assign a
> username/password to the people you want to give access to.
> 
> Finally, on the Windows box, you would simply map a drive to
> \\YourLinuxComputer'sName\TheShareDefinedInSmb.conf. Your logon
> will probably need to be Client for Microsoft Networks, but I'm
> not sure.
> 
> -- 
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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RE: Samba Headache

[CHEONG, Shu Yang \(Patrick\)]

Which version of Samba are you running...I would suggest that you use the
latest (2.0.7) as I understand the earlier versions had some
problems..similar to what you have described!


Cheers

> -Original Message-
> From: Jay Kelly [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, July 07, 2000 1:26 PM
> To:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject:  Samba Headache
> 
> Hello All,
> Well Im still working on getting samba to work with Windows 98. I have
> configured the smb.conf to share my home directory on the linux box.
> Then I open Network Neighorhood in windows and can see the linux box.
> I then try to Map a drive on the linux box and get a error. Windows 
> pops up a dialog box saying:" \\Neutec is not accessible
> The computer or sharname could not be found. Make sure you typed it
> correctly, and try again" Now when I change the Window Primary Network
> Logon from Windows Logon to anything else I can no longer see the Linux
> box.
> This cant be that hard, what am I doing wrong ? I tried to install
> Swat but I couldnt get it to work as well, I was received a error
> connection refused.
> Thanks for you help guys
> 
> settings to log 
> -- 
> 
> It feels so good, It's a marginal risk, when I clear off windows with
> fdisk  
> 
> Powered by Debian GNU/Linux. 
> http://www.debian.org
>  
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RE: Setting up network

[CHEONG, Shu Yang \(Patrick\)]

Firstly, if you are using Debian, all you need to edit are the following
files:-

/etc/networking/interfaces  you should include the proper lines so that
the system can locate your eth0

eth0 inet static
(I think I am missing another part here)
address 192.168.1.1
network 192.168.1.0
broadcast 192.168.1.255
netmask 255.255.255.0
gateway 192.168.1.254

/etc/resolv.conffor resolving hostnames by pointing
to the nameserver...but if you are running bind locally, then the
ip should be 127.0.0.1 first before the network nameserver ip.

/etc/hosts  for resolving local computer names to local
ip addresses i.e. before the dns (bind).

As for returning to X, use Ctrl F7


Cheers!



> -Original Message-
> From: maynord [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, July 07, 2000 6:42 AM
> To:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject:  Setting up network
> 
> Dear Debian Friends:
> 
> I am working on converting several machines running W95 to a Debian 
> system running Helix-Gnome. My plan is to use Samba to talk to the 
> existing NT server. However, I am unsure as to what the best tool is for 
> 
> network configuration.  Some Linux distributions use linuxconf or 
> netcfg. Is there such a tool in Debian?  Or should I just edit the 
> network, hosts, and ifconfig files?  
> 
> Also, I often find it necessary to use ctrl-alt-f1 to open a virtual 
> terminal and do some work.  I can never get back to the Gnome desktop.  
> Any way to do that without shutting down X?
> 
> I very much appreciate any suggestions!
> 
> Robert
> 
> 
> 
> 
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RE: Setting up network

[CHEONG, Shu Yang \(Patrick\)]

> As for returning to X, use Ctrl F7


Oops or is it Alt F7! It's been awhile since I have used the Penguin!

> -Original Message-----
> From: CHEONG, Shu Yang (Patrick) [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, July 07, 2000 1:52 PM
> To:   'maynord'
> Cc:   'debian-user@lists.debian.org'
> Subject:  RE: Setting up network
> 
> Firstly, if you are using Debian, all you need to edit are the following
> files:-
> 
> /etc/networking/interfacesyou should include the proper lines so that
> the system can locate your eth0
> 
>   eth0 inet static
> (I think I am missing another part here)
>   address 192.168.1.1
>   network 192.168.1.0
>   broadcast 192.168.1.255
>   netmask 255.255.255.0
>   gateway 192.168.1.254
> 
> /etc/resolv.conf  for resolving hostnames by pointing
> to the nameserver...but if you are running bind locally, then the
> ip should be 127.0.0.1 first before the network nameserver ip.
> 
> /etc/hostsfor resolving local computer names to local
> ip addresses i.e. before the dns (bind).
> 
> As for returning to X, use Ctrl F7
> 
> 
> Cheers!
> 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From:   maynord [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent:   Friday, July 07, 2000 6:42 AM
> > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> > Subject:Setting up network
> > 
> > Dear Debian Friends:
> > 
> > I am working on converting several machines running W95 to a Debian 
> > system running Helix-Gnome. My plan is to use Samba to talk to the 
> > existing NT server. However, I am unsure as to what the best tool is for
> 
> > 
> > network configuration.  Some Linux distributions use linuxconf or 
> > netcfg. Is there such a tool in Debian?  Or should I just edit the 
> > network, hosts, and ifconfig files?  
> > 
> > Also, I often find it necessary to use ctrl-alt-f1 to open a virtual 
> > terminal and do some work.  I can never get back to the Gnome desktop.  
> > Any way to do that without shutting down X?
> > 
> > I very much appreciate any suggestions!
> > 
> > Robert
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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RE: samba Passwords

[CHEONG, Shu Yang \(Patrick\)]

I have always found SWAT (Samba Web Administration Tool) to be very
handy when it comes to managing your smb.conf and smbpasswd. Give it a
try


Cheers.

Patrick

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> -Original Message-
> From: Jay Kelly [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2000 7:39 AM
> To:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject:  samba Passwords
> 
> Hello Group,
> Well thanks to the list I got Samba working for the most part.
> It seems I didnt have the smb.conf configured right. I have a shared 
> directory that I can access fine but when I try to access the
> /home/user directory I am promt for a password. I then enter
> the password but it fails. I looked in the smbpasswd file but its
> empty. So I tried "smbpasswd neutec" but after entering the pass I
> receive an error that it failed to add it. So my first question is
> how to add new users to Samba ? And I read somewhere that if I want to
> share a CD-Rom I will need to add something to the fstab file. What
> do I need to add there ? I cant find the man page on this. And for
> my last question, Does anyone know where I can get some info on
> setting up Samba as a Domain Controller?
> Thanks again guys for all your help.
> Its been great
> Jay
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> fdisk  
> 
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RE: What drive is the dir on ?

[CHEONG, Shu Yang \(Patrick\)]

Run df -h.

Sorry but I have not used mutt before

> -Original Message-
> From: Jay Kelly [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2000 9:32 AM
> To:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject:  What drive is the dir on ?
> 
> Hey Guys,
> I have two ide drives install and I have mounted a dir from the secondary
> to /web. Is there a way to check that I have indeed mounted it to the
> secondary and not the primary ?
> 
> Also while I have you guys, Is there a way to setup mutt to save all
> read mail into a directory unstead of deleting?
> Thanks
> -- 
> 
> It feels so good, It's a marginal risk, when I clear off windows with
> fdisk  
> 
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> http://www.debian.org
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RE: networking questions

[CHEONG, Shu Yang \(Patrick\)]

As all M$ Windows 95/98/NT/2000 uses a protocal called SMB (Sesssions
Message Block), you will have to install SaMBa (http://www.samba.org). The
debs are kept in net and otherosfs. To configure SaMBa, I strongly suggest
you also download/ apt-get SWAT (Samba Web Administration Tool). Once
installed, use SWAT to configure the smb.conf in /etc/.and remember to
include a line in your smb.conf: browseable = yes; so that your Win machines
can see the shared directories in the Network Neighborhood.

If you have any trouble/ difficulties, you can e-mail me and I will guide
you through.

Cheers.

Patrick

Where do you want to go today
...as far away from Redmond as possible

Only dead fish go with the flow..

> -Original Message-
> From: Franco Cone [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2000 5:17 AM
> To:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject:  networking questions
> 
> Howdy!
> 
>I have a few networking questions..hope you guys won't mind :) I have 2
> networked machines (win98 & debian GNU) as of this moment using ethernet
> 10baseT cat 5 connected to a hub. My questions are:
> 
>   1.how do I let win98 see the debian box thru network neighborhood?
>   2.how do I make debian see win98? I don't thinks there's network
> neighborhood for debian..is there?
>  
> Sorry for my stupid questions but I'm kinda new here and I don't know
> where to start.If anybody can give me a head start & point me to some good
> documentation/explanation out there Regarding this matter I would forever
> be in
> your debt ;)
> 
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[no subject]

[CHEONG, Shu Yang \(Patrick\)]

Hi!

I am attempting to connect my debian (potato) box to an NT network after
installing the base sothat I can use dselect to update and install programs.
Under Windows 95, I noted that the ip address under
Settings-->Network-->TCP/IP has been set to 'automatically obtained' and
there is no ip entered for Gateway or DNS. I have enabled DHCP (which I
think was successfully enabled since by doing an ifconfig I get more or less
the same results as I would using a static ip). A ping to the proxy ip and
the isp dns ip was successful as well. However, when I run dselect and
attempt to connect to http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists, I get an error
message about being unable to connect to the site. The proxy is M$ Proxy
Server 2.0 whilst the webserver is M$ IIS, I think.

I suspect that I need to be authenticated by the NT server before any ip
stream are allowed to continue to my Debian box. I came to this conclusion
because under Windows 95,  I can't browse using Netscape or Opera but can do
so using M$ Explorer (v5.0). I have search several web sites for the
solution but to no avail. Someone suggested to me using smb-NT-verify or
pam_smb to enable my Debian box to authenticate itself to the NT machine so
that ip streams can continue to be forwarded to the Debian box and not just
stop at the proxy server.

Would appreciate some help from the community which I have grown fond of.


Patrick Cheong

RE: Question about partitioning

[CHEONG, Shu Yang \(Patrick\)]

What you have described is almost exactly what I have working on one of my
boxes at home..I don't think you will have a problem installing Linux on
drive D:. I usually like to use different file systems for the /, /usr,
/boot, /var and  /home as corruption on one will not affect the others. If
you have no use for M$ Win95, I suggest youn do away with it and reclaim the
whole hd for Linux since this will give you the necesary hd space for
development and stuff

Patrick

Where do you want to go today?
As far way from Redmond as possible


Only dead fish go with the flow..

> -Original Message-
> From: Ed Burke [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, July 14, 1980 8:56 PM
> To:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject:  Question about partitioning
> 
>  Hi Gang,
> I have reconsidered installing linux - now that I have all
> my ducks in a row.
>I had NT installed on an ex-corporate machine.  So there were a lot
> of nifty programs
>   but no meat behind them.  I opted to discard this and install W 95
> instead.  I now have
>   it installed on 1.25 Gb of a 2Gb disk.  I figured I would install the
> linux on the remaining
>   disk space.  It says I have .98Gb of available space on drive D, drive
> C has W95.
>  A slight aside here but W95 left me with only 100Mb out of
> 1.25Gb.  Is that right?
> 
> I'm wondering if I need to partition or can I just install right to the
> available drive D?
> 
>   there is one folder on D, and it is labled games, I could care
> less about these.   So I
> presume I can over-write what ever is there.  Or maybe I should format D
> so there is
> nothing on it.
> 
>   Ah ha,   I just remembered the second ?, your
> documentation says that the OS
> needs to be loaded in the first 1024  cylinders.   What does this mean
> if I have a split
> drive how do I know which is the first 1024 cylinders?  It sounds as if
> I should format
> the entire hard drive, assign the linux partitions, then reinstall W95
> when I'm done.
> 
>  Is any of this making sense?  Thanks in advance ofr your help.  Ed
> Burke
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RE: Proxying Problems (was Re: )

[CHEONG, Shu Yang \(Patrick\)]

Thx...will give it a try... and will post the results here for the
community


Cheers.

> -Original Message-
> From: Bolan Meek [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2000 11:22 PM
> To:   CHEONG, Shu Yang (Patrick)
> Subject:  Proxying Problems (was Re: )
> 
> "CHEONG, Shu Yang (Patrick)" wrote:
> 
> > Well, I was not "blocked" when I used Explorer!!!
> 
> Perhaps Explorer kept the login:passwd for the site.  I'm not sure
> fully how it works, but it's something like cookies:  a site shall
> query the browser for a login:passwd, and if the browser doesn't
> have it cached, it shall prompt the user.  Once a  login:passwd
> is cached, the browser answers transparently.  That was a
> hassle I suffered with using Netscape to access secured sites in
> a company Intranet:  when I attempt to access by another
> login, the site still thought I was coming in on the previous.
> I had to exit Netscape, restart, and re-access the site to login
> with a different username.  I'm wondering if Explorer kept
> the login info some how, but I don't know yet if your proxy
> server requires a login:password.  Did you ever have to
> supply that when using Explorer, even once?
> 
> > ...Have yet to check with the SysAdmin/ Network guys on the proxying
> rules
> > and
> > stuff like that !!!
> 
> Well, we all wait with abated breaths.
> 
> > > > ...under Windows 95,  I can't browse using Netscape or Opera but can
> do
> > > > so using M$ Explorer (v5.0).
> > >
> > > Was that, in Netscape, using
> > > Edit->Preferences->Advanced->Proxies->Manual?
> > >
> > > > ...suggested to me using smb-NT-verify or
> > > > pam_smb to enable my Debian box to authenticate itself to the NT
> machine
> > > so
> > > > that ip streams can continue to be forwarded to the Debian box and
> not
> > > just
> > > > stop at the proxy server.
> > >
> > > If so, you'll want to look into the SAMBA suite.
> 
> BTW, I goofed in replying without editing the Subject: field.  You had
> left
> it blank.  It's better to supply a Subject: with email, especially to
> lists,
> because there may be those who are short on time, but with specific
> expertise to help with whatever intricate problem you may have.  The
> time contraints they suffer may cause them to skip over a blank or
> too-general Subject:, but they may yet take the time to answer one
> to which they knew the solution right off.
> 
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RE: PLEASE help me with apache package

[CHEONG, Shu Yang \(Patrick\)]

Since you had not provided adequate info on your setup, I will assume you
are browsing your Linux (Apache) box from a M$ box on a local network and
that your Linux box is connected to the Internet. If you noticed, the
'other' links on the default page are actually Internet links and hence for
you to connect to the 'external' links from your windoze machine, your Linux
box need to be running as a proxy. This may explain the reason why you keep
getting the "Forbidden" page. You should be able to connect to the 'link' on
the default page from your Linux box...assuming that is you are connected to
the Net

Here is my suggestion:

To enable browsing from you windoze box, install Squid on your Linux box
(it's an Internet caching applicaitonsomething like a proxy server) and
edit the squid.conf in /etc to include your windoze ip in the acl. Edit your
network settings where the gateway is the ip address of the Linux box. Also,
I would suggest you install Bind on the Linux box and edit the DNS settings
on your windoze box to point to the Linux box.


Note: You will also need to set your proxy settings in your browser to point
to port 3128 since that is the port Squid uses.


Hope that helped as I am a bit rusty since setting up my home network some
time ago.


Cheers.

> -Original Message-
> From: Chris R. Martin [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2000 5:08 AM
> To:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject:  PLEASE help me with apache package
> 
> I've installed Apache 1.3.9-13.1 (from frozen)
> 
> I can access the default page from my windoze box, but any other page 
> (including the links on the default page) gives the client 403 Forbidden. 
> I've checked and all the directories and files should be world accessible 
> (read, execute world).
> 
> Why is the debian package configured like this by default? How can I set
> it 
> up so it works "normally" ?
> 
> Thanks,
> Chris Martin
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RE: I need help please

[CHEONG, Shu Yang \[Patrick\]]

Don't know about the rest of the hw but Debian/GNU Linux does support the
3Com cardhowever, I would suggest that the potential buyer obtain the
latest pcmcia packages(tgz) from the pcmcia homepage.have fun!

> -Original Message-
> From: Melissa Stirling [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2000 5:22 PM
> To:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject:  I need help please
> 
> I have a customer who would like to purchase a Toshiba from me and intends
> to run Debian Linux as the operating system.
> 
> His question is this:
> 
> He will either buy the Satellite Pro 4320 or 4270 which have with an AGP
> or PCI 3D Savage graphics card built in, does Debian support this hardware
> please?
> 
> He also intends to use a 3Com PCMCIA 10/100BaseT Ethernet card with it to,
> model no. 3CCFE575BT.  Do you know if this is also supported?
> 
> Please could you let me know either way ASAP as he would like to place his
> order today.
> 
> Kindest regards, Melissa.
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RE: Back up ideas???

[CHEONG, Shu Yang \[Patrick\]]

Well, I have a Linux box in our department where all are M$ boxes. I
installed samba (2.0.7) and used cron to mount the shared M$ folders and
tar'ed the mounted filesystems into backup directories on the Linux box.
This was done during lunch when I was quite certain the M$ machines were not
in use. Again, after the backup process was completed, I used cron to umount
the mounted filesystems and executed a killall -9 smbmount to ensure that
all smbmount's have been 'killed' (I discovered that if the smbmount process
was still running when the next backup routine executed, I get an error and
the backup process just doesn't complete). Hoped that helped and I suppose
you can do the same for the Mac box.

A word of advise though, the 'shared' folders on the M$ boxes had to be
shared 'read-only' to 'The World', as for some reason, sharing by username
did not allow the Linux box to 'see' the contents in the mounted shared
folders.



Patrick Cheong

Where do you want to go today?
As far away from Redmond


Only dead fish go with the flow!

> -Original Message-
> From: Matt Kopishke [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2000 1:25 AM
> To:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject:  Back up ideas???
> 
> Hi, I am trying to set up a flexable backup system.  This requires that
> the  software is multi-platform (Win 98/NT/2000 Linux and maybe MacOS),
> and it (the server) must be easy to access remotely.  What I have now is a
> decent Machine Running Linux with a lot of disk space.  What I would like
> to do is have every one make a backup of the work they are doing daily,
> then I can burn a cd weekly for an archive.  Is there any thing out there
> right now that can do this type of job.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
>   -Matt-
> 
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RE:

[CHEONG, Shu Yang \[Patrick\]]

Go to /etc/init.d/ and change SXXxdm or SXXgdm (where XX are the sequence in
which init.d will run/ execute "startup" programs) to something like ~SXXxdm
or ~SXXgdm. This just 'disables' the X-based login prompt!

Patrick

Where do you want to go today?
As far away from Redmond

Only dead fish go with the flow!

> -Original Message-
> From: Patrick J Draper [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2000 5:54 PM
> To:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject:  
> 
> How do I stop my Debian 2.1 machine kicking straight into X windows or how
> do I get out once it has.
>  
> I'm having problems and wish to boot to the command line.
>  
>  
> Many thanks All
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>  
>  

RE:

[CHEONG, Shu Yang \[Patrick\]]

Ooopsthe line below should read /etc/rcX.d  ...must have been
daydreaming

Patrick Cheong
Information Systems Assurance
Measat Broadcast Network Systems
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> -Original Message-
> From: CHEONG, Shu Yang [Patrick] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2000 10:02 AM
> To:   'Patrick J Draper'
> Cc:   'debian-user@lists.debian.org'
> Subject:  RE: 
> 
> Go to /etc/init.d/ and change SXXxdm or SXXgdm (where XX are the sequence
> in
> which init.d will run/ execute "startup" programs) to something like
> ~SXXxdm
> or ~SXXgdm. This just 'disables' the X-based login prompt!
> 
> Patrick
> 
> Where do you want to go today?
> As far away from Redmond
> 
> Only dead fish go with the flow!
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From:   Patrick J Draper [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent:   Wednesday, July 26, 2000 5:54 PM
> > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> > Subject:
> > 
> > How do I stop my Debian 2.1 machine kicking straight into X windows or
> how
> > do I get out once it has.
> >  
> > I'm having problems and wish to boot to the command line.
> >  
> >  
> > Many thanks All
> >  
> >  
> >  
> >  
> >  
> >  
> >  
> >  
> > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >  
> >  
> 
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RE: mounting floppy

[CHEONG, Shu Yang \[Patrick\]]

Have you tried insmod the autofs module before attempting the mount the said
RHL 6.2 floppy?

Patrick Cheong
Information Systems Assurance
Measat Broadcast Network Systems
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> -Original Message-
> From: Dale Morris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, July 28, 2000 12:57 PM
> To:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject:  mounting floppy
> 
> I'm trying to mount a floppy that I made with Redhat 6.2 system. It
> mounted on a previous install of potato, but I reinstalled and now  when I
> try to mount it I get the following  error message:
> [I cannot determine the file type and none was specified]
> This floppy has lots of stuff on it that I would like to use for
> configuration, such as .rc files and such. Any suggestions on what I've
> done wrong or how I can get it to mount?
> I superformatted a floppy (although I had to use the /sbin/mke2fs -c
> /dev/fd0 argument) and it mounts fine, as do msdos disks.
> thanks
> dale
> 
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RE: Starting GNOME (newbie question)

[CHEONG, Shu Yang \[Patrick\]]

Try inserting gnome-session in either .xinitrc or Xsession.can't
remember which.

Patrick Cheong
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Measat Broadcast Network Systems
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> -Original Message-
> From: Marcio Rosa da Silva [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, July 28, 2000 10:01 PM
> To:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject:  Starting GNOME (newbie question)
> 
> I installed helix-gnome in my notebook and I want to know how to start
> it. What should I put in my .xinitrc file? I tried sawfish directly, but
> it doesn't work.
> 
> Sorry for the newbie question, but I'm a fvwm user and I'm used to put
> fvwm2 in my .xinitrc and create a .fvwm2rc and it's all! :-)
> 
> []s,
> 
> Marcio
> 
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RE: debian rocks

[CHEONG, Shu Yang \[Patrick\]]

Hear ye..hear ye.you should join this list, then you'll really get a
feel of the Linux (and Debian GNU/Linux) community.

Patrick Cheong
Information Systems Assurance
Measat Broadcast Network Systems
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> -Original Message-
> From: Michael Soulier [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2000 1:48 AM
> To:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject:  debian rocks
> 
> 
>   I have to tell you, the more I use Debian, the more I like
> it. It's not the big things. The big thing is that it's Linux. It's the
> little things. 
>   I go hunting for the default vimrc file installed when I grabbed
> vim. On every *nix system in the world, it's probably in a subdirectory of
> the install. On Debian, it's symlinked to files in /etc, where all the
> config files are and should be. Wasn't that way on Mandrake/RedHat. 
>   Kudos people. Don't let commercial interests screw it up or force
> you to be sloppy. This is a work of art. 
> 
>   Mike
> 
> "To listen to the words of the learned, and to instill into others the
> lessons of science, is better than religious exercises."
>   -- Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) 
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RE: current Redhat user evaluates Debian

[CHEONG, Shu Yang \[Patrick\]]

You got that right :-)!

Patrick Cheong
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> -Original Message-
> From: Ethan Pierce [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2000 8:25 AM
> To:   montefin; John L. Fjellstad
> Cc:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject:  Re: current Redhat user evaluates Debian
> 
> Incredible :)
> - Original Message -
> From: "montefin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "John L. Fjellstad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: 
> Sent: Friday, July 28, 2000 7:17 PM
> Subject: Re: current Redhat user evaluates Debian
> 
> 
> >
> > "In a galaxy far away, John L. Fjellstad" wrote:
> > >
> > >  Hi,
> > >
> > > I'm a current RedHat user (started with Linux on RedHat because
> > > it was available at Fry's), and I'm currently evaluating
> > > Debian for a possible switch.
> > >
> > > Can anyone come up with a list of advantages of using Debian
> > > Linux over Redhat Linux?
> > > I would also love to hear any the weaknesses Debian has compared
> > > RedHat.
> > >
> >
> > John,
> >
> > I've been dual-booting Red Hat and Win98 on a PII 350, since March,
> > 1999. Before that I'd been dividing my computing pretty much equally
> > between MacOS and NT.
> >
> > In January, 2000, I got serious about setting up a network to serve my
> > websites, front-ended by a firewall box that wouldn't quickly become
> > just 'a piece of Swiss cheese' between my LAN and the outside world.
> >
> > In other words, I wanted a system configuration that would impose a
> > strict, consistent, logical hierarchy and be easy to maintain and update
> > against any new security exploits that would inevitably come at it.
> >
> > I looked into Slackware, SuSE, Debian and also OpenBSD and FreeBSD.
> >
> > In March, 2000, I picked up a 1992-era 486DX 66 with a modest 514Mb hard
> > drive, at Goodwill of all places. $120 and all the hardware was Linux
> > compatible!
> >
> > The local LUG (Linux Users Group) here, offered to make free burns of
> > any distros members wanted to try. I got a CD each for Debian, Slack and
> > SuSE.
> >
> > Since I'd already started auditing this (the debian-users) mailing list,
> > I popped in the Debian CD first and found I only had part of what I
> > needed. But it made enough sense that I downloaded a set of tools from
> > http://www.debian.org to floppies and partitioned the 'Goodwill Special'
> > as 100% pure Debian and installed a workable 'Slink' (Debian's current
> > stable release) base system.
> >
> > Over a 56k modem and using 'dselect' (Debian's front-end to 'dpkg', the
> > package management tool), I fleshed out 'Slink', but realized it was
> > pretty outdated as compared to the Red Hat 6.1 conglomeration I was
> > using on the PII.
> >
> > So I ordered a set of CD's for Debian 'Potato' (at the time, Debian's
> > unstable release) from the nice people at Greenbush Technologies
> > http://www.greenbush.com/cgi-greenbush/order/index.cgi .
> >
> > But before the CD's arrived I'd discovered apt-get (Debian's system for
> > upgrading from file, http or ftp sources). I never used the CD's.
> >
> > Once you get the hang of apt-get, you realize there isn't much else out
> > there that you can even compare it with.
> >
> > Almost overnight, online, I went from 'Slink' to 'Potato', without
> > having to bother the great folks on this list too much (I hope). All of
> > a sudden, Red Hat was looking outdated!
> >
> > BTW, if apt-get is my #1 reason for going forward with Debian for my
> > firewall, this list is a close second. I have attempted about nine times
> > to get email support from Red Hat, support I paid for, and never got
> > past a bot or a 'customer service' representative who couldn't
> > understand how I could possibly be feeling frustrated. Never once did
> > anyone who knew anything ever respond.
> >
> > In late June, 2000, I upgraded from the 56k modem to a 192k/192k SDSL
> > connection, installed linux-2.2.16, set up the network, ssh and ssl,
> > then just last night decided to 'apt-get' myself from mostly 'Potato' to
> > full 'Woody' (Debian's current development release).
> >
> > Maybe I've gotten too confident in the Debian development team for
> > 'Woody' on a firewall?
> >
> > If apt-get was great at 56k, it is mind-boggling at 192k. Especially if
> > you've ever tried to get a crucial security update from Red Hat or one
> > of its mirrors and gotten an insipid dialogue saying more or less 'sorry
> > all circuits are busy' or 'that site/directory/file does not exist'.
> >
> > Best of all, once you've done an 'apt-get dist-upgrade', a complete
> > upgrading of everything you have chosen to have on your Debian system --
> > online -- in under an hour -- whenever you want (I do it weekly) -- you
> > never want to go back to anything like the horrors I experienced
> > upgrading from Red Hat 6.0 to 6.1.
> >
> > RH 6.2? No thank you.
> >
> > However, I'm continuing to run Red Hat 

RE: Newbie Install Questions

[CHEONG, Shu Yang \[Patrick\]]

Q1  It usually defaults to the user directory in /home...unless you
changed it...then it will default to the last chaged directory
Q2  Suggest you go to http://www.google.com and type in yamaha "opl3sa
linux" and see what comes up
Q3  See the LDP at the various mirror sites...

Patrick Cheong
Information Systems Assurance
Measat Broadcast Network Systems
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Visit us at: http://www.astro.com.my

> -Original Message-
> From: Dale Morris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2000 10:17 AM
> To:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject:  Newbie Install Questions
> 
> I've used Linux (Redhat) for about 6 months and have just installed potato
> via ftp. I have some newbie questions I would appreciate some help with:
> 
> 1.) If I download a file from the net, where does it go? Which directory,
> as netscape seems to automatically determine the target.
> 2.) Where's the *best* newbie info for installing my Yamaha opl3a sound
> card?
> 3.) What do I do to get printing? I installed lpr module in the kernel and
> installed aps filter, but when trying to print a test page, nothing
> happened. Again, any good sources for printer config info?
> 
> thanks
> -- dale 
> 
> 
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RE: Outlook/Outlook Express

[CHEONG, Shu Yang \[Patrick\]]

Hellowake upthis is the debian-user list...

Patrick Cheong
Information Systems Assurance
Measat Broadcast Network Systems
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Visit us at: http://www.astro.com.my

> -Original Message-
> From: dsbiloxi [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2000 11:28 AM
> To:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject:  Outlook/Outlook Express
> 
> Is it possible to transfer info from my "Contacts" listing in Outlook to
> "Contacts" in Outlook Express?
>  
> Thanks
> Dale << File: Dale Summers.vcf >> 

RE: newbie help

[CHEONG, Shu Yang \[Patrick\]]

Try tar zxvf kernel-source 2.2.12.tar.gz (which u have mentioned is already
in /usr/src). tar will "un-tar" and 
"gunzip" the kernel sources into the directory
kernel-source- (or something like that). cd 
into the said directory and do a make config ( ro make menuconfig or make
xconfig if you want meu-driven and 
X versions of the config, respectively), make modules, make modules-install,
make bzImage. cp the resulting 
bzImage in /usr/src/arch/i386/boot (for i386 architecture) into /boot and
remember to modify your lilo.conf to i
nclude your new kernel and run lilo at the command prompt. Also, I suggest
you mv your current
 /lib/modules/ to /lib/modules/.original
...just in case you want to use 
the original modules back...


Hope that helpscheers.

Patrick Cheong
Information Systems Assurance
Measat Broadcast Network Systems
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Visit us at: http://www.astro.com.my

Where do you want to go?
As far away from Redmond

Only dead fish go with the flow!

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2000 3:49 AM
> To:   debian-user-list
> Subject:  newbie help
> 
> I do have one little thing that I am stuck on.  I am trying to 
> recompile the kernel and I am trying to follow the 
> /usr/doc/kernel-package Readme file but I am not understanding the 
> first step.  I have kernel-source 2.2.12.tar.gz in /usr/src now.  Do I 
> need to gunzip it then un-tar it and then do the make config.  The 
> read me talk about where to unpack it but i am not sure about the 
> unpacking part. Any help is greatly appreciated.
> Clyde
>  << File: filename="text1.rtf" >> 

RE: sound

[CHEONG, Shu Yang \[Patrick\]]

OK I have seen the same "error" message before, you need to chmod the
/dev/dsp to 666 so that all users of the box have sound!

Patrick Cheong
Information Systems Assurance
Measat Broadcast Network Systems
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Visit us at: http://www.astro.com.my

> -Original Message-
> From: Dale Morris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, July 31, 2000 11:55 AM
> To:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject:  sound
> 
> I'm trying to configure my yamaha oplsa sound card. I'm running linux
> kernel 2.2.16 and sound is configured in the kernel. From dmesg it
> appears that everything is working:
> 
> Sound initialization started
> Found OPL3-SAx (YMF719)
>  at 0x330 irq 9 dma 0
> Sound initialization complete
> 
> Where do I go from here? How do I get sound working? If I run esd from
> the command line it returns /dev/dsp: no such device. I'm in the
> process of RTFM now.
> thanks
> -- dale
> 
> 
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[no subject]

[CHEONG, Shu Yang \[Patrick\]]

Hi guys!

I have been searching high and low for the answer but no such luck.I am
attempting to connect by Debian GNU/Linux box to the Net through a Microsoft
Proxy Server 2.0. I can ping outside the local network but whenever I use
dselect, I get an error message. I understand that if the socks is enabled
on the M$ Proxy Server, I can use the socks4/5 client to sockify the
programs which need to connect to the Net, but I think the proxy server
socks is not enabled. Also, I have seen numerous postings regarding the use
of some M$ proprietary "protocol" which allows M$ Internet Explorer (and not
other Web Browsers such as Netscape and Opera) to connect to the Net. I
tried using Lynx in Debian and this is the error messages I get:

HTTP Error 401

401.2 Unauthorised Logon failed due to server configuration.

This error indicates that the credentials passed to the server do not match
the credentials required to logon to the server. This is usually caused by
not sendoing the proper WWW - Authenticate header field. Please contact the
Web server's admin to verify that you have permission to access the
requested resource.

In M$ Windows 95b(on the same box using XOSL), I can connect using only M$
Internet Explorer! Can anyone enlightenment me? Is there a space on the Net
where I can find the answers to this question? Thx.

P/S I am certain my settings on the Debian box is correct!


Patrick Cheong
Information Systems Assurance
Measat Broadcast Network Systems
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Visit us at: http://www.astro.com.my

RE: sound

[CHEONG, Shu Yang \[Patrick\]]

Ooops...also ensure that the /dev/audio is 666...

Patrick Cheong
Information Systems Assurance
Measat Broadcast Network Systems
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Visit us at: http://www.astro.com.my

> -Original Message-
> From: CHEONG, Shu Yang [Patrick] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 10:31 AM
> To:   'Dale Morris'
> Cc:   'debian-user@lists.debian.org'
> Subject:  RE: sound
> 
> OK I have seen the same "error" message before, you need to chmod the
> /dev/dsp to 666 so that all users of the box have sound!
> 
> Patrick Cheong
> Information Systems Assurance
> Measat Broadcast Network Systems
> E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Visit us at: http://www.astro.com.my
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From:   Dale Morris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent:   Monday, July 31, 2000 11:55 AM
> > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> > Subject:sound
> > 
> > I'm trying to configure my yamaha oplsa sound card. I'm running linux
> > kernel 2.2.16 and sound is configured in the kernel. From dmesg it
> > appears that everything is working:
> > 
> > Sound initialization started
> > Found OPL3-SAx (YMF719)
> >  at 0x330 irq 9 dma 0
> > Sound initialization complete
> > 
> > Where do I go from here? How do I get sound working? If I run esd from
> > the command line it returns /dev/dsp: no such device. I'm in the
> > process of RTFM now.
> > thanks
> > -- dale
> > 
> > 
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RE: MS Proxy Server 2.0 using Linux client

[CHEONG, Shu Yang \[Patrick\]]

Oooops...I forgot to put in the Subject

Patrick Cheong
Information Systems Assurance
Measat Broadcast Network Systems
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Visit us at: http://www.astro.com.my

> -Original Message-
> From: CHEONG, Shu Yang [Patrick] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 10:29 AM
> To:   'debian-user@lists.debian.org'
> Subject:  
> 
> Hi guys!
> 
> I have been searching high and low for the answer but no such luck.I
> am
> attempting to connect by Debian GNU/Linux box to the Net through a
> Microsoft
> Proxy Server 2.0. I can ping outside the local network but whenever I use
> dselect, I get an error message. I understand that if the socks is enabled
> on the M$ Proxy Server, I can use the socks4/5 client to sockify the
> programs which need to connect to the Net, but I think the proxy server
> socks is not enabled. Also, I have seen numerous postings regarding the
> use
> of some M$ proprietary "protocol" which allows M$ Internet Explorer (and
> not
> other Web Browsers such as Netscape and Opera) to connect to the Net. I
> tried using Lynx in Debian and this is the error messages I get:
> 
> HTTP Error 401
> 
> 401.2 Unauthorised Logon failed due to server configuration.
> 
> This error indicates that the credentials passed to the server do not
> match
> the credentials required to logon to the server. This is usually caused by
> not sendoing the proper WWW - Authenticate header field. Please contact
> the
> Web server's admin to verify that you have permission to access the
> requested resource.
> 
> In M$ Windows 95b(on the same box using XOSL), I can connect using only M$
> Internet Explorer! Can anyone enlightenment me? Is there a space on the
> Net
> where I can find the answers to this question? Thx.
> 
> P/S I am certain my settings on the Debian box is correct!
> 
> 
> Patrick Cheong
> Information Systems Assurance
> Measat Broadcast Network Systems
> E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Visit us at: http://www.astro.com.my
> 
> 
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RE:

[CHEONG, Shu Yang \[Patrick\]]

Nope I just tried "ping www.google.com" and got a response from the Google
site!

Also, I tried "lynx http://:80/" and "lynx http://:8080/" and both times got the same results. 

I think I have to authenticate each connection made to the proxy
server...which I am unsure how to do within Linux.any suggestions?

Just tried using port 80 undwer MS IE 5.5can't seem to view the page but
8080 was ok..weirdalso under lynx I get a "Do you want to allow this
cookie?" message? So I just answered Yes...

Will now try another browser other than ie...will post results later

Patrick Cheong
Information Systems Assurance
Measat Broadcast Network Systems
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Visit us at: http://www.astro.com.my

> -Original Message-
> From: Kenrick, Chris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 1:43 PM
> To:   'CHEONG, Shu Yang [Patrick]'
> Subject:  RE: 
> 
> Umm...
> 
> For some weird reason MS web proxies like to run on port 80 (not 8080 as
> you
> had)
> 
> try http_proxy with port 80 instead :)
> 
> Or alternately, just check within IE for what the proxy settings are 
> (Tools - Internet Options - Settings - Lan Settings)
> 
> I don't think a DNS within the ISP's network counts as an external
> machine.
> 
> Try pinging something outside of the ISP and you might find that you have 
> some problems... :)
> 
> - Chris
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: CHEONG, Shu Yang [Patrick] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, 1 August 2000 3:41 PM
> To: 'Kenrick, Chris'
> Subject: RE: 
> 
> 
> I did a "export http_proxy=http://:8080" before using
> dselectdoes not seem to workabout the ping...welll at the command
> prompt I just typed "ping 192.228.128.20" which is the ip for one of the
> isp's dns..
> 
> Will try the MS Proxy Client!
> 
> Will post later.
> Thx
> 
> 
> Patrick Cheong
> Information Systems Assurance
> Measat Broadcast Network Systems
> E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Visit us at: http://www.astro.com.my
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From:   Kenrick, Chris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent:   Tuesday, August 01, 2000 1:24 PM
> > To: 'CHEONG, Shu Yang [Patrick]'; 'debian-user@lists.debian.org'
> > Subject:RE: 
> > 
> > The answer depends on how the proxy is set up...
> > 
> > It might be worth trying setting the http_proxy environment variable
> > to http://yourproxynamehere:80/ (make sure you export it of course)
> > This should at least get things like apt working...
> > 
> > The other thing that might be worth looking at ...
> > 
> > Try installing the microsoft proxy client on your win95 partition.
> > 
> > It is often findable on a network share of your proxy 
> > ( \\yourproxyname\mspclnt is usual).  In addition to being able to 
> > get out through the proxy, mspclnt.ini on the same drive
> > can give you some hints as to the proxy configuration.
> > 
> > Finally, its possible that the proxy might be set up to only
> > allow certain users to do certain things, and you may be running
> > into a permissions problem...
> > 
> > - Chris
> > 
> > PS: How did you manage to ping the outside network.  According to my 
> > tests and MS documentation, MS proxies don't let pings through to the
> > outside world!!
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: CHEONG, Shu Yang [Patrick] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, 1 August 2000 12:29 PM
> > To: 'debian-user@lists.debian.org'
> > Subject: 
> > 
> > 
> > Hi guys!
> > 
> > I have been searching high and low for the answer but no such luck.I
> > am
> > attempting to connect by Debian GNU/Linux box to the Net through a
> > Microsoft
> > Proxy Server 2.0. I can ping outside the local network but whenever I
> use
> > dselect, I get an error message. I understand that if the socks is
> enabled
> > on the M$ Proxy Server, I can use the socks4/5 client to sockify the
> > programs which need to connect to the Net, but I think the proxy server
> > socks is not enabled. Also, I have seen numerous postings regarding the
> > use
> > of some M$ proprietary "protocol" which allows M$ Internet Explorer (and
> > not
> > other Web Browsers such as Netscape and Opera) to connect to the Net. I
> > tried using Lynx in Debian and this is the error messages I get:
> > 
> > HTTP Error 401
> > 
> > 401.2 Unauthorised Logon failed due to server con

RE: Linux Client Through MS Proxy Server

[CHEONG, Shu Yang \[Patrick\]]

Yes...only IE seem to work (i.e. with the proxy setting set to
pintprv1..com.my and port set at 8080)..have tried Navigator
and Opera but nothing happens!

Also, only upon request was I allowed to access and download from ftp sites.

Does MS Proxy Server use its own proprietary "protocol"?

Patrick Cheong
Information Systems Assurance
Measat Broadcast Network Systems
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Visit us at: http://www.astro.com.my

> -Original Message-
> From: Kenrick, Chris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 7:17 AM
> To:   'CHEONG, Shu Yang [Patrick]'
> Subject:  RE: 
> 
> OK ..
> 
> It seems to be suggesting that the web proxy is running on port 8080 on
> the
> machine 
> PINTPRV1 ... (WebProxyPort=8080)
> 
> However, it doesn't seem to set web browsers to use the proxy. (Set
> Browsers
> to use proxy = 0 and 
> Set Browsers to use Auto Config = 0)
> 
> Does Internet Explorer go through a proxy? (Tools .. Internet Options etc)
> .. the file 
> seems to suggest that the proxy may not be necessary for web access?
> 
> Do other protocols other than HTTP work .. can you telnet or ftp out for
> instance?
> 
> - Chris
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: CHEONG, Shu Yang [Patrick] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, 1 August 2000 4:39 PM
> To: 'Kenrick, Chris'
> Subject: RE: 
> 
> 
>  <> 
> Chris,
> 
> Here is a copy of the said .ini file. Any idea how to decipher some of the
> info.?
> 
> Patrick Cheong
> Information Systems Assurance
> Measat Broadcast Network Systems
> E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Visit us at: http://www.astro.com.my
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From:   Kenrick, Chris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent:   Tuesday, August 01, 2000 1:43 PM
> > To: 'CHEONG, Shu Yang [Patrick]'
> > Subject:RE: 
> > 
> > Umm...
> > 
> > For some weird reason MS web proxies like to run on port 80 (not 8080 as
> > you
> > had)
> > 
> > try http_proxy with port 80 instead :)
> > 
> > Or alternately, just check within IE for what the proxy settings are 
> > (Tools - Internet Options - Settings - Lan Settings)
> > 
> > I don't think a DNS within the ISP's network counts as an external
> > machine.
> > 
> > Try pinging something outside of the ISP and you might find that you
> have 
> > some problems... :)
> > 
> > - Chris
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: CHEONG, Shu Yang [Patrick] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, 1 August 2000 3:41 PM
> > To: 'Kenrick, Chris'
> > Subject: RE: 
> > 
> > 
> > I did a "export http_proxy=http://:8080" before using
> > dselectdoes not seem to workabout the ping...welll at the
> command
> > prompt I just typed "ping 192.228.128.20" which is the ip for one of the
> > isp's dns..
> > 
> > Will try the MS Proxy Client!
> > 
> > Will post later.
> > Thx
> > 
> > 
> > Patrick Cheong
> > Information Systems Assurance
> > Measat Broadcast Network Systems
> > E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Visit us at: http://www.astro.com.my
> > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Kenrick, Chris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 1:24 PM
> > > To:   'CHEONG, Shu Yang [Patrick]'; 'debian-user@lists.debian.org'
> > > Subject:  RE: 
> > > 
> > > The answer depends on how the proxy is set up...
> > > 
> > > It might be worth trying setting the http_proxy environment variable
> > > to http://yourproxynamehere:80/ (make sure you export it of course)
> > > This should at least get things like apt working...
> > > 
> > > The other thing that might be worth looking at ...
> > > 
> > > Try installing the microsoft proxy client on your win95 partition.
> > > 
> > > It is often findable on a network share of your proxy 
> > > ( \\yourproxyname\mspclnt is usual).  In addition to being able to 
> > > get out through the proxy, mspclnt.ini on the same drive
> > > can give you some hints as to the proxy configuration.
> > > 
> > > Finally, its possible that the proxy might be set up to only
> > > allow certain users to do certain things, and you may be running
> > > into a permissions problem...
> > > 
> > > - Chris
> > > 
> > > PS: How did you manage to ping the outside network.  According 

RE: debian rocks

[CHEONG, Shu Yang \[Patrick\]]

Ok ok...I am the one who wrote about "us" joining the listI am just glad
there are people like you guys out there who help each other on
'difficulties' encountered by some of us newbies.

And for that ...a big thank you.

Patrick Cheong
Information Systems Assurance
Measat Broadcast Network Systems
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Visit us at: http://www.astro.com.my

> -Original Message-
> From: Keith G. Murphy [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 12:57 AM
> To:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject:  Re: debian rocks
> 
> Actually, "we" could have picked it up on www.deja.com/usenet.
> 
> Jason Quigley wrote:
> > 
> > Then of course, the fact that we're reading this means we're already on
> the
> > list :)
> > 
> > --On Monday, July 31, 2000 9:40 +0800 "CHEONG, Shu Yang [Patrick]"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > Hear ye..hear ye.you should join this list, then you'll really get
> a
> > > feel of the Linux (and Debian GNU/Linux) community.
> > >
> >
> 
> 
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RE: Linux Client Through MS Proxy Server

[CHEONG, Shu Yang \[Patrick\]]

Chris,

Before I even proceed, I must thank you for your help.

I tried your suggesting in telnetting into the proxy server "telnet pintprv1
8080", and the tlnet screen comes up then nothing...but when I pressed
"Enter", I got the following message on screen:-

 <> 

Noticed the "Server: Microsoft-IIS/4.0" !?!...h I wonder what this
means?

I will try to ask the "friendly" network fols at the IS Dept. as to how the
server(s) were set up and what is needed to get my Debian box to access the
Web so that I can use dselect or apt-get..


Cheers.

P/S : BTW, which part of downunder are you from? I completed by undergrad in
Canberra back in 1993!

Patrick Cheong
Information Systems Assurance
Measat Broadcast Network Systems
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Visit us at: http://www.astro.com.my

> -Original Message-
> From: Kenrick, Chris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 9:10 AM
> To:   'CHEONG, Shu Yang [Patrick]'
> Subject:  RE: Linux Client Through MS Proxy Server
> 
> It wouldn't surprise me if it did...
> 
> However, at my location we also use a MS Proxy Server, running on port 80
> and it works fine under netscape, apt-get, etc...
> 
> Maybe your server is configured differently to ours ...
> 
> There might be a checkbox somewhere 'only allow Internet Explorer web
> browsers' :(
> 
> Or alternately, maybe Internet Explorer is using your windows password
> and logon to authenticate you to the proxy, which the other browsers
> probably can't do.
> 
> One thing to try ... try telnetting to port 8080 of your proxy
> (telnet pintprv1 8080) to see what happens.  If asked for a username
> and or password , try your windows username/password to see if it 
> lets you in.
> 
> If this is the case, I'm not sure what to do next though :(
> 
> - Chris
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: CHEONG, Shu Yang [Patrick] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, 2 August 2000 11:04 AM
> To: Kenrick, Chris
> Cc: 'debian-user@lists.debian.org'
> Subject: RE: Linux Client Through MS Proxy Server
> 
> 
> Yes...only IE seem to work (i.e. with the proxy setting set to
> pintprv1..com.my and port set at 8080)..have tried Navigator
> and Opera but nothing happens!
> 
> Also, only upon request was I allowed to access and download from ftp
> sites.
> 
> Does MS Proxy Server use its own proprietary "protocol"?
> 
> Patrick Cheong
> Information Systems Assurance
> Measat Broadcast Network Systems
> E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Visit us at: http://www.astro.com.my
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From:   Kenrick, Chris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent:   Wednesday, August 02, 2000 7:17 AM
> > To: 'CHEONG, Shu Yang [Patrick]'
> > Subject:RE: 
> > 
> > OK ..
> > 
> > It seems to be suggesting that the web proxy is running on port 8080 on
> > the
> > machine 
> > PINTPRV1 ... (WebProxyPort=8080)
> > 
> > However, it doesn't seem to set web browsers to use the proxy. (Set
> > Browsers
> > to use proxy = 0 and 
> > Set Browsers to use Auto Config = 0)
> > 
> > Does Internet Explorer go through a proxy? (Tools .. Internet Options
> etc)
> > .. the file 
> > seems to suggest that the proxy may not be necessary for web access?
> > 
> > Do other protocols other than HTTP work .. can you telnet or ftp out for
> > instance?
> > 
> > - Chris
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: CHEONG, Shu Yang [Patrick] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, 1 August 2000 4:39 PM
> > To: 'Kenrick, Chris'
> > Subject: RE: 
> > 
> > 
> >  <> 
> > Chris,
> > 
> > Here is a copy of the said .ini file. Any idea how to decipher some of
> the
> > info.?
> > 
> > Patrick Cheong
> > Information Systems Assurance
> > Measat Broadcast Network Systems
> > E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Visit us at: http://www.astro.com.my
> > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Kenrick, Chris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 1:43 PM
> > > To:   'CHEONG, Shu Yang [Patrick]'
> > > Subject:  RE: 
> > > 
> > > Umm...
> > > 
> > > For some weird reason MS web proxies like to run on port 80 (not 8080
> as
> > > you
> > > had)
> > > 
> > > try http_proxy with port 80 instead :)
> > > 
> > > Or alternately, just check within IE for what the proxy settings are 
> >

RE: Linux Client Through MS Proxy Server

[CHEONG, Shu Yang \[Patrick\]]

Have tried and am still using the same userid/pw combination under win95 and
debian...still no luckactually I am also trying to compile a program
which will validate my debian box  to the nt serverbut I seem to have
several files *.h files missing..will try that when I get back home...

Know of any good sniffers for win95?

Patrick Cheong
Information Systems Assurance
Measat Broadcast Network Systems
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> -Original Message-
> From: Kenrick, Chris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 9:45 AM
> To:   'CHEONG, Shu Yang [Patrick]'
> Subject:  RE: Linux Client Through MS Proxy Server
> 
> Patrick,
> 
>Helping is no problem.  I've spent no small amount of time trying to
> get
> past
> our proxy server here, so saving other people the same trouble if possible
> is a
> good thing :)
> 
>As for IIS 4.0 .. IIS stands for Internet Information Server, which
> is MS implementation of typical internet server tools .. I presume MS
> Proxy
> Server
> is a specialised derivation of IIS or something like that...
> 
> Unfortunately we weren't lucky enough for it just to pop a login prompt
> out
> of the
> blue...
> 
> If you were feeling really masochistic, you could run a packet sniffer of
> some sort
> and trace what messages went between you and the proxy when connecting
> through 
> IE.  But thats probably a bit too tricky to be worthwhile :)
> 
> As you mentioned in an earlier post, if they have socks enabled then this
> is
> probably
> your best bet.
> 
> Another random thought I just had .. Try creating a user on the linux box
> with the
> same password and username as your windows one.  Its a long shot but worth
> a try...
> 
> As for which part of downunder, I hail from Wollongong/Sydney
> (respectively).  I do
> however have some friends etc in Canberra (such as my brother in law :) )
> 
> - ChrisK
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: CHEONG, Shu Yang [Patrick] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, 2 August 2000 11:37 AM
> To: 'Kenrick, Chris'
> Cc: 'debian-user@lists.debian.org'
> Subject: RE: Linux Client Through MS Proxy Server
> 
> 
> Chris,
> 
> Before I even proceed, I must thank you for your help.
> 
> I tried your suggesting in telnetting into the proxy server "telnet
> pintprv1
> 8080", and the tlnet screen comes up then nothing...but when I pressed
> "Enter", I got the following message on screen:-
> 
>  <> 
> 
> Noticed the "Server: Microsoft-IIS/4.0" !?!...h I wonder what this
> means?
> 
> I will try to ask the "friendly" network fols at the IS Dept. as to how
> the
> server(s) were set up and what is needed to get my Debian box to access
> the
> Web so that I can use dselect or apt-get..
> 
> 
> Cheers.
> 
> P/S : BTW, which part of downunder are you from? I completed by undergrad
> in
> Canberra back in 1993!
> 
> Patrick Cheong
> Information Systems Assurance
> Measat Broadcast Network Systems
> E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Visit us at: http://www.astro.com.my
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From:   Kenrick, Chris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent:   Wednesday, August 02, 2000 9:10 AM
> > To: 'CHEONG, Shu Yang [Patrick]'
> > Subject:RE: Linux Client Through MS Proxy Server
> > 
> > It wouldn't surprise me if it did...
> > 
> > However, at my location we also use a MS Proxy Server, running on port
> 80
> > and it works fine under netscape, apt-get, etc...
> > 
> > Maybe your server is configured differently to ours ...
> > 
> > There might be a checkbox somewhere 'only allow Internet Explorer web
> > browsers' :(
> > 
> > Or alternately, maybe Internet Explorer is using your windows password
> > and logon to authenticate you to the proxy, which the other browsers
> > probably can't do.
> > 
> > One thing to try ... try telnetting to port 8080 of your proxy
> > (telnet pintprv1 8080) to see what happens.  If asked for a username
> > and or password , try your windows username/password to see if it 
> > lets you in.
> > 
> > If this is the case, I'm not sure what to do next though :(
> > 
> > - Chris
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: CHEONG, Shu Yang [Patrick] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, 2 August 2000 11:04 AM
> > To: Kenrick, Chris
> > Cc: 'debian-user@lists.debian.org'
> > Subject: RE: Linux Client Through MS Proxy 

RE: samba problems

[CHEONG, Shu Yang \[Patrick\]]

OK here goes

"cd" to "/etc/network" and "ls" to see whether you already have a file there
named "interfaces". If not, use you favourite editor (mine's ae, BTW as it
is so ealy to use for simple editing) and create this file with the
following contents:-

# The loopback device
iface lo inet loopback

# The eth0 device (replace the ip with the appropriate address)
iface eth0 inet static
address 192.168.0.1
netmask 255.255.255.255
network 192.168.0.0
broadcast 192.168.0.255
gateway 192.168.0.10# If this box is not the gateway, otherwise,
this can be commented out

Note that if you specified a gateway, ips meant for "other" networks will be
"routed" via the gateway.
(Someone correct me if I am wrong!)

As for Samba, have your included your username and password to the
smbpasswd...ooopsss you did mention that you skipped that pasrt when
askedwell, to create the said file, I suggest you use "Samba Web
Administration Tool" or SWAT for short...

>From thereon, you should be able to "smbclient //debian/user1" ...and make
sure you key in the correct password

Hope that helped


Patrick Cheong
Information Systems Assurance
Measat Broadcast Network Systems
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> -Original Message-
> From: Joseph de los Santos [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2000 5:19 AM
> To:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject:  samba problems
> 
> Hi,
> 
>  hoping that someone really nice can lend a helping hand...with
> configuring 
> samba...
> 
>   1.  I always do an ifconfig eth0 <192.168.0.1> netmask <
> 255.255.255.0>  
> everytime I boot to configure my network interface. I want to configure
> the 
> interface permanently so I do not have to manually specify it everytime.
> 
> 2. do I need to do a 'route add -net <192.168.0> dev eth0' aside from 
> specifying the ip add and netmask? how about the broadcast address? do i
> need 
> to configure that too?
> 
>   3.when trying to test the connection with $smbclient debian\\user1 ,
> it 
> prompts me for the password, then gives the error..
> Password: 
> session setup failed: ERRSRV - ERRbadpw (Bad password - name/password pair
> in 
> a Tree Connect or Session Setup are invalid.)
> ah.say what?
> 
> btw,
>  I run samba from inetd. nmblookup works..(i think, doesn't complain
> anyway)   
> testparm also doesn't complains...but checking  var/log/smb shows this 
> errors...when I first installed samba it asked me if i wanted to make a
> new 
> samba passwords file...i said no, (taking the default choice) perhaps that
> is 
> where my problem lies?
> 
> [2000/08/02 20:16:56, 1] smbd/server.c:main(641)
>   smbd version 2.0.7 started.
>   Copyright Andrew Tridgell 1992-1998
> [2000/08/02 20:16:56, 1] smbd/files.c:file_init(216)
>   file_init: Information only: requested 1 open files, 1014 are
> available.
> [2000/08/02 20:17:11, 0] passdb/smbpass.c:startsmbfilepwent_internal(87)
>   startsmbfilepwent_internal: unable to open file /etc/samba/smbpasswd.
> Error 
> was No such file or directory
> [2000/08/02 20:17:11, 0] passdb/passdb.c:iterate_getsmbpwnam(149)
>   unable to open smb password database.
> [2000/08/02 20:17:11, 1] smbd/password.c:pass_check_smb(500)
>   Couldn't find user 'root' in smb_passwd file.
> [2000/08/02 20:17:11, 0] passdb/smbpass.c:startsmbfilepwent_internal(87)
>   startsmbfilepwent_internal: unable to open file /etc/samba/smbpasswd.
> Error 
> was No such file or directory
> [2000/08/02 20:17:11, 0] passdb/passdb.c:iterate_getsmbpwnam(149)
>   unable to open smb password database.
> [2000/08/02 20:17:11, 1] smbd/password.c:pass_check_smb(500)
>   Couldn't find user 'root' in smb_passwd file.
> [2000/08/02 20:17:11, 1] smbd/reply.c:reply_sesssetup_and_X(925)
>   Rejecting user 'root': authentication failed
> 
> 
> 
> Hoping for any kind of help. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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RE: What do I have to do to get my server running?

[CHEONG, Shu Yang \[Patrick\]]

Hi!

Have you RTFM? Ok..okhere goes:

*I am assuming you have Samba up and running properly* i.e. the smbd and
nmbd daemons are running (check this using ps aux).

1.  Configure your "smb.conf" in /etc/sambaI usually use Samba Web
Administration Tool (SWAT), which allows you to configure both the smb.conf
and smbpasswd files via your web browser (http://localhost:901/). You can
find the debianised version on Debian and its numerous mirrors. (Make sure
you uncomment the corresponding line in inetd.conf before using SWAT). You
should "share" the directories you want to Windoze boxes to have access to.
Since your network is at home, I suggest you chmod the shared directories to
777 since this will eliminate certain weirdness you may encounter if you set
it otherwise. Also, I normally set the share type to "share" (I strongly
suggest you read the "help" to the right of that option within SWAT.

2.  Set up the "smbpasswd" file (again using SWAT as it is easier for
newbies) by adding the username and password, which needs to be entered when
the shared directories are accessed from the Windoze boxes. I suggest
however you use the same username and password for both Linux login and
Samba login.

3.  Restart Samba (/etc/init.d/samba restart)and you should be able
to see the shared directory from the Windoze boxes...


Hope that gave you a startand if you want run into some
problemse-mail back to me and I will try to help...


Cheers.

Patrick Cheong
Information Systems Assurance
Measat Broadcast Network Systems
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> -Original Message-
> From: Cameron Matheson [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, August 04, 2000 2:16 AM
> To:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject:  What do I have to do to get my server running?
> 
> Hey,
> 
> I'm turning my Linux into a server for my family's to Windoze machines,
> but I'm not sure what exactly to do.  I've installed the Samba packages,
> and compiled SMB support into the kernel.  I've got my NE2000 working,
> so now I just need to know how to connect to the network.  Any help
> would be appreciated.
> 
> (My server will be somewhat useless, as their are only two computers
> it's serving, but I'm doing it for the learning experience)
> 
> Thanks,
> Cameron Matheson
> 
> 
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Linux client through MS Proxy Server 2.0

[CHEONG, Shu Yang \[Patrick\]]

Hi guys,

Finally, I have found the answer to my problem: "Acessing the Internet with
a Potato box via MS Proxy Server 2.0".

Here it is:-

MS Proxy Server basically allows 3 types of authentication, namely :
Anonymous, Basic and NTLM (also known as NT challenge/response). The first
speaks for itself. The send basically require the client to send a user name
and password for authentication before access is allowed...however the user
name and password sent is in clear text. And finally, NTLM require the
client to send a user name and password, which is encrypted, before access
is allowed.

The MS Proxy Server which I am trying to authenticate before the Potato box
is allowed access to the Net has been set to use NTLM authentication...and
here is the bombshellthe only browser (AFAIK) which can authenticate
using the NTLM "handshake" is MS IE...what do you know..talk about cornering
corporate users into using nothing but MS IE

So it looks like the only place where I can tinker with Linux and other *nix
is at home.

Well,  I am still hoping that someone knows of a way to authenticate the the
MS Prxy Server using the NTLM "handshake" but not with MS IE.


Patrick Cheong
Information Systems Assurance
Measat Broadcast Network Systems
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RE: Xfree mouse trouble

[CHEONG, Shu Yang \[Patrick\]]

I was just wondering, what are the differences (if any) between using gpm
and the x-mouse?...and what are the advantages?

Patrick Cheong
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Measat Broadcast Network Systems
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> -Original Message-
> From: Jeremiah Savage [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2000 6:01 PM
> To:   Jared Johnson
> Cc:   debian-user
> Subject:  Re: Xfree mouse trouble
> 
> On Sat, 5 Aug 2000, Jared Johnson wrote:
> 
> > 
> > > screen and briefly displaying popup menus eventhough I'm not pressing
> any
> > > buttons. I can use the mouse just fine in terminal mode to highlight
> > > text and paste the text using the middle button, so I think my
> hardware
> > > is
> > > ok. Any clues?
> > 
> > A very easy way to fix this would be to use the mouse in X through GPM
> (the
> > program that is used to support the mouse in terminal mode).  You can do
> > this by running gpmconfig and telling it to use the -R flag (or
> optionally
> > by editing /etc/gpm.conf to do the same thing); then, when you set up X,
> > set it up to use the device /dev/gpmdata and the protocol MouseSystems.
> > 
> 
> Thanks for the help. I edited /etc/X11/XF86Config so that the Pointer
> Device is "/dev/gpmdata" and the Protocol "Microsoft" (how horrible...)
> and the mouse works now.
> 
> Jeremiah
> 
> 
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RE: Debian ISO

[CHEONG, Shu Yang \[Patrick\]]

That site doesn't seem to be working? Any ideas?

Patrick Cheong
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> -Original Message-
> From: Marko Cehaja [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 2:11 AM
> To:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject:  Re: Debian ISO
> 
> Dear
> 
> On Wed, Aug 09, 2000 at 01:22:13PM -0700, Sean S. wrote:
> > Where do I get the ISO for Debian?  I've looked all over the ftp site
> and 
> > can't seem to find it.  HELP!!!
> You get it from:
> 
> http://cdimage.debian.org
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> Marko Cehaja
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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RE: x-windows 4.0.1

[CHEONG, Shu Yang \[Patrick\]]

Why use Alien when you can install directly using the shell scripts provided
with the X distribution?

Patrick Cheong
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> -Original Message-
> From: Sean Champ [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 11:04 AM
> To:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject:  x-windows 4.0.1
> 
> hello.
> 
> I tried a search in the debian mailing-lists about this, and on
> irc.debian.org ,
> but wasn't finding anything.
> 
> has anyone tried alien'ing the x-windows 4.0.1 binaries?
> 
> ( the current standard x-w dist. is breaking on my graphics card, with the
> mach64 server. returning a meaningless-to-me error-message about the value
> of
> "Q", or something like that. )
> 
> 
> 
> thank you.
> 
> 
> -- sean
> 
> 
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Galeon .debs and compilation

[CHEONG, Shu Yang \[Patrick\]]

Hi!

I remember reading something about galeon on the list very recently...but at
that time I was unsure what galeon washowever, over the weekend, I was
catching up on some OSS news and came across galeon and wanted to give it a
spin. I downloaded the source and attempted to compile it but keep getting
an error message (Error 2) eventhough I "downloaded" the gtkmozembed.h file
from the Mozilla.org site. I am running Helix Gnome with a 2.2.15 custom
kernel. Can someone point me to some pages or help me in the
compilationI thinl I have most of the files for developmentohhh the
error was something about "<..." in the gtkmozembed.h file...I will try to
get the error message on the list once I try it again tonight


Patrick Cheong
Information Systems Assurance
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Only dead fish go with the flow!

RE: What is stormix

[CHEONG, Shu Yang \[Patrick\]]

Coincidental you should ask that! Point your browser to
http://rootprompt.org/article.php3?article=797.

Patrick Cheong
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> -Original Message-
> From: Suresh Kumar.R [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2000 9:26 PM
> To:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject:  What is stormix
> 
> Hi,
> 
> What is stormix by the way ?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Suresh
> -
> Suresh Kumar.REmail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Dept of Electronics & Communication
> College of Engineering, Trivandrum - 695 016
> INDIA
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Compiling Galeon 0.72

[CHEONG, Shu Yang \[Patrick\]]

I attempted compiling Galeon 0.72 over the weekend but an error occured
during makeit can't find lgtkembedmozI had used alien to convert the
mozilla-devel rpm package to .deb and installed that using dselect. When I
cd to /usr/include/mozilla, I see gtkmozembed.h (note the different name
with the one which make said it can't find). ./configure  and ./configure
-with--mozilla-header=/usr/include/mozilla did not report any errors. Can
someone extend some help here..appreciate it.


Thanks. 


Patrick Cheong
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RE: You are a Linux Guru!

[CHEONG, Shu Yang \[Patrick\]]

I beg to difer...but then again, it's only my opinion based on my
experiencesmaybe someone else may have differing viewshey it only
makes us humans!

Patrick Cheong
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> -Original Message-
> From: Jaldhar H. Vyas [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 11:43 AM
> To:   Morten Liebach
> Cc:   Debian GNU/Linux User
> Subject:  Re: You are a Linux Guru!
> 
> > YAY! I've allways wanted to be that when I grew up!
> > 
> > BTW Debian is about the same in ease of installation as RedHat, SuSE and
> > others, but it's so much easyer to understand, end therefore to admin,
> > that I prefer it.
> > 
> 
> I don't know.  I recently had the opportunity to install Debian on a
> server and  I went through hell.  And I _am_ a Linux Guru! :-)  Eventually
> I had to give up and put Mandrake 7.1 on there which installed
> with no problem whatsoever.  Their installer is the slickest I've ever
> seen, better than Windows even.
> 
> The good news is that we have some very capable people working on the
> boot-floppies.  I predict that it won't be long till we catch up and even
> overtake the other distributions.
> 
> But we're not there yet IMO.
> 
> -- 
> Jaldhar H. Vyas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> 
> 
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RE: Latop to Desktop ethernet

[CHEONG, Shu Yang \[Patrick\]]

Set both ip addesses to a private one...say 192.168.0.X and use a
cross-wired network cable and you shoudl be off...also make sure you have
ftp-server software running on the hostgood luck

Patrick Cheong
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> -Original Message-
> From: Marvin Stodolsky [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 10:52 AM
> To:   debian_user
> Subject:  Latop to Desktop ethernet
> 
> To just do simple FTP between my laptop and desktop without any other
> network, what are the appropriate script settings?
> PCMCIA ethernet cards are functional in each.
> Please copy to me as well as the LIST.
> 
> MarvS
> 
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RE: Realtek 8129/8139 support

[CHEONG, Shu Yang \[Patrick\]]

I can't recall if this option was affected by "devel"  option at the
beginning of the make xconfig screens. Also, I think you have to check the
main option above the Realtek 8129/8139 option to allow it to be bold
(ungrey). IIRC that was what I did when I compiled 2.2.15..so it should be
more or less the same as 2.2.17...

Patrick Cheong
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> -Original Message-
> From: Paul T. McNally [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 7:57 AM
> To:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject:  Realtek 8129/8139 support
> 
> I'm running make xconfig on kernel source 2.2.17
> and the line in the subject line is an option
> in Ethernet (10 or 100Mbit section). I need this for
> my ethernet cards but I can't figure out how to
> get the option to bold (ungrey). Maybe I can't.
> I was able to get this to work using source 2.3.xx
> when I was running redhat.
> 
> Paul
> 
> 
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RE: Is it just me or.......

[CHEONG, Shu Yang \[Patrick\]]

Meit was over the weekend and when I logged into my mail app this
morning..boom...I had 670 unread mail

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> -Original Message-
> From: Kerstin Hoef-Emden [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 1:07 AM
> To:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject:  Re: Is it just me or...
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, 25 Aug 2000, Christopher W. Aiken wrote:
> 
> > Is it just me or has every message posted to this Debain
> > list been posted 3-4 times today?  I've had 150+ emails
> > and they were just duplicates of previous postings over
> > and over !!
> 
> You are not the only one. I had 330 messages in my mailbox today.
> 
> Kerstin
> 
> 
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RE: INFORMATION NEEDED

[CHEONG, Shu Yang \[Patrick\]]

You are on the worng list unless you are running DebianI suggest you do
a query on search engines for what you are looking for.

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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 1:02 PM
> To:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject:  INFORMATION NEEDED
> 
> DEAR INCHARGE,
> I AM A BEGINNER IN PROGRAMMING KINDLY INFORM ME WHAT ARE COMPILERS AND 
> PALTFORMS IN PROGRAMMING AND HOW TO GET FREE STUFF FOR THE SAME.
> THANKS
> ASIF
> 
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RE: kernel 2.2.2 newbie question

[CHEONG, Shu Yang \[Patrick\]]

Hellohow do you "upgrade" from 2.2.16 to 2.2.2?! I would really like to
know...

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> -Original Message-
> From: Dale L . Morris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2000 2:19 AM
> To:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject:  kernel 2.2.2 newbie question
> 
> I'm going to compile 2.2.2 kernel as an upgrade from 2.2.16. Since
> this is evenly numbered does that mean it's a stable kernel? Are there
> any significant improvements over 2.2.16?
> thanks
> -- dale
> 
> 
> "Know thyself.."
> 
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RE: ¦³100MB§K¶Oºô¤WÀx¦sªÅ ¶¡¥ô¥Î§r~~

[CHEONG, Shu Yang \[Patrick\]]

Please for the love of the Free Software movement, stop sending garbage
to this list!

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> -Original Message-
> From: Biz [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2000 2:42 AM
> To:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject:  ¦³100MB§K¶Oºô¤WÀx¦sªÅ¶¡¥ô¥Î§r~~
> 
> 
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> 
> 
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> ,?!!!
> 
> 
> 
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> ² ICQ, ??Email
> ² ?
> 
>  
> 
> ,?thiz.com.hk, ?Samsung Yepp 32MB MP3, Sony PS2???,
> Nokia 8210??? 3000?
> 
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> 
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> 
> 
> 

RE: Apps Crashing a Lot

[CHEONG, Shu Yang \[Patrick\]]

Have you guys tried ctrl+alt+backspace to get back to the console instead of
(i) rebooting the box and (ii) telnetting from another machine to issue a
init 1!!! If that doesn't work, try ctrl+alt+FX (where X is the number
representing the console 1 to 6). You also might want to determine the
reason(s) for the "crashes"...it may be caused by a rogue app or
something...such feedback to the developers is important as bugs can then
get fixed promptly and everyone can go about their daily lives again!

Cheers.


Patrick Cheong
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> -Original Message-
> From: Pollywog [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2000 11:47 PM
> To:   Greg Strockbine.
> Cc:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject:  RE: Apps Crashing a Lot
> 
> 
> On 29-Aug-2000 Greg Strockbine. wrote:
> > I moved to Linux to get away from the
> > unstability of windoze, but I get an
> > awful lot of apps crashing with Linux.
> > The operating system itself seems stable,
> > but not the apps.
> > 
> > I'm running stormix hail, based on the latest
> > Debian potato release.
> > 
> > the crashes:
> > - gnome desktop totally locked up on me once.
> >   No idea how to get out of it except to reboot machine.
> >   ouch!  Too much like win98.
> 
> This has happened to me only once with Gnome, but lots with KDE.
> What I do is telnet (or ssh) to the locked up machine from another
> machine,
> and issue a reboot command (or telinit 1) that way.  It is better than
> hitting
> the reboot button on the machine that is locked up.
> 
> Are you running Woody or Potato?  I am staying away from most of Woody for
> a
> few months to a year, until it is stable.
> 
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> 
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RE: Apps Crashing a Lot

[CHEONG, Shu Yang \[Patrick\]]

Use Debian/GNU Linux instead!

Patrick Cheong
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> -Original Message-
> From: Pollywog [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 11:04 AM
> To:   CHEONG, Shu Yang [Patrick]
> Cc:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject:  RE: Apps Crashing a Lot
> 
> 
> On 30-Aug-2000 CHEONG, Shu Yang [Patrick] wrote:
> > Have you guys tried ctrl+alt+backspace to get back to the console
> instead of
> > (i) rebooting the box and (ii) telnetting from another machine to issue
> a
> > init 1!!! If that doesn't work, try ctrl+alt+FX (where X is the number
> > representing the console 1 to 6). You also might want to determine the
> > reason(s) for the "crashes"...it may be caused by a rogue app or
> > something...such feedback to the developers is important as bugs can
> then
> > get fixed promptly and everyone can go about their daily lives again!
> > 
> 
> All those things will often fail, and an agressive reboot is required.
> 
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RE: auto power off

[CHEONG, Shu Yang \[Patrick\]]

The stock kernel which comes with Debian (2.2) has the auto power off
function disabled! To enable this feature, you need to recompile the
kernel...which is suggested anyway.

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> -Original Message-
> From: John Anderson [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 12:10 PM
> To:   Debian list
> Subject:  auto power off
> 
> I was wondering if there is anyway in Debian, when I use the halt command
> the computer will shut off automatically if equpped with an electronic
> power switch.  Distributions such as SuSE and Redhat would shut down my
> computer in that manner.  Is there anyway to do this with Debian?
> 
> 
> John Kerr Anderson 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Debian GNU/Linux 2.2   
> 
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RE: lm-sensors

[CHEONG, Shu Yang \[Patrick\]]

Well...the lm-sensors I installed with the 2.2.15 kernel on a potato box was
able to show me the correct temperatures as displayed by the BIOS...I am
using a Asus P5A.I suppose it depends on the motherboard you are using
as well...

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> -Original Message-
> From: Alvin Oga [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 9:20 PM
> To:   Frederik
> Cc:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject:  Re: lm-sensors
> 
> 
> hi ya frederik
> 
> you probably want to see the cpu temp measurements ???
> 
> its at /proc/sys/dev/sensors/<*sis5595*>/temp1
> 
> you can see all the stuff its recording in the /proc tree
> 
> and if you're nuts like me i run a cron job to copy the cpu 
> temperature every 5 minutes copy it into a web directory that
> i can casually browse to see what the temp did over the past day/night etc
>   - for the 1U boxes i running
> 
> if your cpu/chassis fans is a 3-wire fan ( with a tach )..gues yu
> can also write a perl script to send an alarm when the fan dies
> 
> - consider yourself lucky if your motherboard's sensors is detected
>   by lm-sensors
> 
> have fun
> alvin
> http://www.Linux-Consulting.com/1U/LCD/   - lm-sensor stuff + Lcd
> display
> 
> 
> On Tue, 5 Sep 2000, Frederik wrote:
> 
> > I've installed lm-sensors using apt-get install lm-sensors-source,
> > recompiled the kernel, installed the new kernel with dpkg -i, installed
> > the 2 created .debs (i2c and lm-sensors) and rebooted.
> > I ran sensors-detect, and modified /etc/modules:
> > 
> > i2c-isa
> > sis5595
> > 
> > This is what sensors report:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/lahaina$ sensors
> > sis5595-isa-0290
> > Adapter: ISA adapter
> > Algorithm: ISA algorithm
> > VCore 1:   +2.04 V  (min =  +2.84 V, max =  +3.45 V)   ALARM
> > VCore 2:   +1.96 V  (min =  +2.68 V, max =  +3.26 V)   ALARM
> > +3.3V: +1.23 V  (min =  +2.97 V, max =  +3.63 V)   ALARM
> > +5V:   +0.82 V  (min =  +3.78 V, max =  +4.62 V)   ALARM
> > fan1:0 RPM  (min = 3000 RPM, div = 2)  ALARM
> > fan2:0 RPM  (min = 3000 RPM, div = 2)  ALARM
> > temp: +127 C (limit = +60 C,  hysteresis = +50 C) 
> > alarms:   Board temperature input (usually LM75 chips) ALARM
> > 
> > Funny, but not what i had in mind of course. Through the bios at bootup,
> > i can see the correct temperature...
> > Any ideas what i should change? I have a sis 5595 chip, and run woody.
> > 
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RE: Please help with some harddisk error

[CHEONG, Shu Yang \[Patrick\]]

I have seen such error messages below before too.it was when I decided
to enable dma support for the hd via hdparmcheck to see whether that
that has been enabled (hdparm /dev/hda). Anyway, after that incident, my
hardisk had bad cluster/sectors!

Patrick Cheong
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> -Original Message-
> From: ktb [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 10:12 AM
> To:   Debian list
> Subject:  Re: Please help with some harddisk error
> 
> On Wed, 06 Sep 2000, Shao Zhang wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I am getting some harddisk errors on one of our production
> > servers. We also have the same hardware for two other
> > servers(web/proxy) running 2.0.36/hamm with no problems.
> > 
> > Hardware:
> > 4 x 9GB Fujisu
> > Mylex Accelerate 250
> > 
> > Software:
> > Kernel 2.2.16/with latest DAC960 comes with kernel(will try out
> > 2.2.17)
> > Current Potato
> > 
> > Errors:
> > hda: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
> > hda: dma_intr: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=34431,
> sector=34368
> > end_request: I/O error, dev 03:01 (hda), sector 34368
> > hda: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
> > hda: dma_intr: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=34431,
> sector=34368
> > end_request: I/O error, dev 03:01 (hda), sector 34368
> > hda: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
> > hda: dma_intr: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=34431,
> sector=34368
> > end_request: I/O error, dev 03:01 (hda), sector 34368
> > hda: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
> > hda: dma_intr: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=279631,
> sector=279568
> > end_request: I/O error, dev 03:01 (hda), sector 279568
> > 
> > We are gettting thounsands of these messages. However, the
> > server still runs ok, but some files are damaged randomly.
> > 
> > Thanks for any help in advance.
> 
> I've had  errors such as { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }  twice and
> both times it just got worse to the point the drives crashed. 
> One of the drives I quit trying to use for a couple weeks and
> accidently booted into it, and it worked fine, I copied what I wanted
> and kept using it and then it crashed again.  I've read that happening
> to other people also.  At any rate if I were you I would copy that drive
> pronto.  Search the archives for a fix.  I've seen people post them but
> they never worked for me.  
> hth,
> kent
> 
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RE: Error compiling kernel

[CHEONG, Shu Yang \[Patrick\]]

Hi Gutierrez Family...(and List),

Hey...I got the same error messsage too while attempting to compile the
"patched" 2.2.17 kernelI downloaded the patches for 2.2.16 and 2.2.17
and applied those to my 2.2.15 source tree in /usr/src/linux (->
/usr/src/2.2.15). I did get some error message while applying the patch
something about reverse patch...however, I continued pressing enter until
the end and did a make xconfig, make dep, make modules, make bzImageand
at the last step I got that error message.I have not make
modules_install yet.any ideas anyone.


Also, I trashed my / when I enabled dma via hdparm..and I have no idea how
to recoverI ran fsck and e2fsck over the / partition and numerous error
messages flashed by and the last error message said something about some
inode gone haywire try using inode 8139 or something...which I did and when
I booted into the woody boxmy root (which housed /lib; /bin; /sbin;
/tmp; etc) had numerous files/libraries missingCan this be 'rescued'? If
not, I'd have to wait for the Debian 2.2 cdroms to arrive from the States
via Linux System Labs...

Patrick Cheong
Information Systems Assurance
Measat Broadcast Network Systems
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> -Original Message-
> From: Gutierrez Family [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 12:46 PM
> To:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject:  Error compiling kernel
> 
> Hi everyone,
>  
> I tried to re-compile the kernel (to include generic SCSI support for my
> scanner) and ran into problems.  Here's what I did - as far as I can
> remember (following the instructions in the README file found in the
> kernel source directory):
>  
> 1) logged in as root
> 1) ran the xconfig program and selected my options
> 2) ran 'make dep' (from within /usr/src/kernel-source-2.2.17/)
> 2) ran 'make zImage' ( also from /usr/src/kernel-source-2.2.17/) and it
> compiled for quite a while until I got the following message:
>  
> "nm vmlinux | grep -v '\(compiled\)\|\(\.o$\)\|\( [aU]
> \)\|\(\.\.ng$\)\|\(LASH[RL]DI\)' | sort > System.map
> make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.2.17/arch/i386/boot'
> as86 -0 -a -o bootsect.o bootsect.s
> make[1]: as86: Command not found
> make[1]: *** [bootsect.o] Error 127
> make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.2.17/arch/i386/boot'
> make: *** [zImage] Error 2
> navi:/usr/src/linux#   "
>  
> Do you know how I can get the kernel compiled fully?
>  
> Thanks in advance.

RE: Error compiling kernel

[CHEONG, Shu Yang \[Patrick\]]

I am replying to the list...having read ktb [EMAIL PROTECTED] 's postjust
a question...is the as86 file located in the /, /bin, /sbin , /lib
directories..if so then it explains a possible / corruption before I
attempted to compile the 2.2.17 kernel

Patrick Cheong
Information Systems Assurance
Measat Broadcast Network Systems
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> -Original Message-
> From: CHEONG, Shu Yang [Patrick] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 1:36 PM
> To:   'Gutierrez Family'
> Cc:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject:  RE: Error compiling kernel
> 
> Hi Gutierrez Family...(and List),
> 
> Hey...I got the same error messsage too while attempting to compile the
> "patched" 2.2.17 kernelI downloaded the patches for 2.2.16 and 2.2.17
> and applied those to my 2.2.15 source tree in /usr/src/linux (->
> /usr/src/2.2.15). I did get some error message while applying the patch
> something about reverse patch...however, I continued pressing enter until
> the end and did a make xconfig, make dep, make modules, make
> bzImageand
> at the last step I got that error message.I have not make
> modules_install yet.any ideas anyone.
> 
> 
> Also, I trashed my / when I enabled dma via hdparm..and I have no idea how
> to recoverI ran fsck and e2fsck over the / partition and numerous
> error
> messages flashed by and the last error message said something about some
> inode gone haywire try using inode 8139 or something...which I did and
> when
> I booted into the woody boxmy root (which housed /lib; /bin; /sbin;
> /tmp; etc) had numerous files/libraries missingCan this be 'rescued'?
> If
> not, I'd have to wait for the Debian 2.2 cdroms to arrive from the States
> via Linux System Labs...
> 
> Patrick Cheong
> Information Systems Assurance
> Measat Broadcast Network Systems
> e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Visit us at: http://www.astro.com.my
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From:   Gutierrez Family [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent:   Thursday, September 07, 2000 12:46 PM
> > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> > Subject:Error compiling kernel
> > 
> > Hi everyone,
> >  
> > I tried to re-compile the kernel (to include generic SCSI support for my
> > scanner) and ran into problems.  Here's what I did - as far as I can
> > remember (following the instructions in the README file found in the
> > kernel source directory):
> >  
> > 1) logged in as root
> > 1) ran the xconfig program and selected my options
> > 2) ran 'make dep' (from within /usr/src/kernel-source-2.2.17/)
> > 2) ran 'make zImage' ( also from /usr/src/kernel-source-2.2.17/) and it
> > compiled for quite a while until I got the following message:
> >  
> > "nm vmlinux | grep -v '\(compiled\)\|\(\.o$\)\|\( [aU]
> > \)\|\(\.\.ng$\)\|\(LASH[RL]DI\)' | sort > System.map
> > make[1]: Entering directory
> `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.2.17/arch/i386/boot'
> > as86 -0 -a -o bootsect.o bootsect.s
> > make[1]: as86: Command not found
> > make[1]: *** [bootsect.o] Error 127
> > make[1]: Leaving directory
> `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.2.17/arch/i386/boot'
> > make: *** [zImage] Error 2
> > navi:/usr/src/linux#   "
> >  
> > Do you know how I can get the kernel compiled fully?
> >  
> > Thanks in advance.
> 
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RE: hdparm

[CHEONG, Shu Yang \[Patrick\]]

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I included an additional SXX in the rc2.d dir as follows:-

#! /bin/sh
# Enabling dma for hda

hdparm -d1 -c1 -a1 -A1 -m8 -k1 /dev/hda

Remember to chmod the file created to 755 less it does not execute at
boot. Also, I'd manually try this first before actually including the
above, particularly the -d1 as on some systems, it screws up the
hardisk. Also, try a combination of the settings to get the optimum
performance from the hardisk (this can be tested using the hdparm -t
/dev/hda). Good luck!


Patrick Cheong
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- -Original Message-
From:   Jamie Raymond [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:   Saturday, September 09, 2000 10:44 PM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject:hdparm

Hi,

Where's the best place to put a call to hdparm so that it gets
invoked
upon booting? (would inserting it into an existing file in
/etc/init.d
be appropriate?)

Thanks,
Jamie


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RE: Weird messages after kernel compiling...

[CHEONG, Shu Yang \[Patrick\]]

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OK...what you need is to cp from /usr/src/linux "System.map" to /boot
and replace the file "System.map-". Also, what I
normally do is mv /lib/modules/ to
/lib/modules/.original (Just in case the "backward
compatibility" setting was not enabled during the kernel
configuration). BTW, I'd also bakcup the original System.map. You
never know when you might need it.


There, now it should not give any "unresolved symbols" during boot
up.


Patrick Cheong
Information Systems Assurance
Measat Broadcast Network Systems
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- -Original Message-
From:   Gutierrez Family [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:   Sunday, September 10, 2000 8:23 AM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject:Weird messages after kernel compiling...

Hi again, everyone.

I forgot to mention that after compiling my new kernel, I now get
many
modules-related error messages.  If I remember correctly, I did the
following:

make mrproper (cleaned everything right out)
make xconfig
make dep
make clean (don't know if this was really necessary, since I'd done
'make mrproper')
make bzImage (didn't notice any errors, I don't think)
make modules
make modules_install
copied bzImage to the boot directory (renamed) and ran 'lilo'
rebooted

I saw a whole screen-full of "*** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/"

I noticed that most of them were modules that I don't use anyway, so
I
didn't care too much about it.  It did, however, include "sound.o",
and
I believe I'll be needing that one.

QUESTION:  Did I mess up during the kernel re-compile?  If so, is
there
a way to get rid of these messages?

By the way, when I type "depmod -a", I get the same list of
"Unresolved..." error messages.

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RE: hdparm

[CHEONG, Shu Yang \[Patrick\]]

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Well you would have to try some combinations before the optimum
settings can be found..do this by changing one of the settings and
testing the performance using hdparm -t /dev/hdathe higher the
value, the better the performance...however, if you are using one of
several m/b (the one which I am using is Asus P5A-B), DO NOT enable
dma (i.e. -d1) as it will screw up you hardisk i.e. "corrupt" files
on the hardisk (I noticed these files were mainly in the /
partition). Use the kernel-patch-ide.deb instead to patch the
kernel and enable dma support...(I successfully did this last
night)...

Also note that not all the parameters set will bring on performance
gains for the hardisk e.g setting -mX on my box did not bring on any
performace gains and in some cases, enabling -c1 detiorated
performance

HTH

Patrick Cheong
Information Systems Assurance
Measat Broadcast Network Systems
e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Visit us at: http://www.astro.com.my

- -Original Message-
From:   Krzys Majewski [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:   Monday, September 11, 2000 10:19 AM
To:     CHEONG, Shu Yang [Patrick]
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject:RE: hdparm

How do I know if I need any of these options for my hard
drive? Are the kernel/ide driver defaults reasonable? Do these flags
improve  
performance? (Right now I'm just using hdparm -y to spin down the 
disk)  -chris

On Mon, 11 Sep 2000, CHEONG, Shu Yang [Patrick] wrote:

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> I included an additional SXX in the rc2.d dir as follows:-
> 
> #! /bin/sh
> # Enabling dma for hda
> 
> hdparm -d1 -c1 -a1 -A1 -m8 -k1 /dev/hda
> 
> Remember to chmod the file created to 755 less it does not execute
> at boot. Also, I'd manually try this first before actually
> including the above, particularly the -d1 as on some systems, it
> screws up the
> hardisk. Also, try a combination of the settings to get the optimum
> performance from the hardisk (this can be tested using the hdparm
> -t /dev/hda). Good luck!
> 
> 
> Patrick Cheong
> Information Systems Assurance
> Measat Broadcast Network Systems
> e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Visit us at: http://www.astro.com.my
> 
> - -Original Message-
> From: Jamie Raymond [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2000 10:44 PM
> To:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject:  hdparm
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Where's the best place to put a call to hdparm so that it gets
> invoked
> upon booting? (would inserting it into an existing file in
> /etc/init.d
> be appropriate?)
> 
> Thanks,
Jamie

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RE: Network Configuration

[CHEONG, Shu Yang \[Patrick\]]

See below

Patrick Cheong
Information Systems Assurance
Measat Broadcast Network Systems
e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Visit us at: http://www.astro.com.my

> -Original Message-
> From: Saran [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 2:05 PM
> To:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject:  Network Configuration
> Importance:   High
> 
> Hi Guys,
> 
> I just subscribed to this list to get more information regarding the
> Debian
> Linux, which kind of lacks a lot of information resources.  Most sites are
> about RedHat Linux and as much as Debian is giving me problems, I still
> like
> to stick to this distribution instead of moving to RedHat.  I have several
> questions that I'd like to ask namely :
>   1.  Does Debian have any administrative tools akin to IBM AIX
> smitty, smit,
> wsm (Web System Management) whereby it allows me to administer and manage
> the system without having to edit files and typing in complex commands
> every
> time ?
[CHEONG, Shu Yang (Patrick)]  Have you tried linuxconf?

>   2. This is critical and I am about to start banging my head on the
> wall,
> except that I still holding on to the hope that you guys can help me out
> here.  Well, currently there is a system within my environment which is
> running RedHat 6.x and it has two ethernet adapter (3Com) installed on the
> system.  This system is running Masquarading (Sp ???), whereby there are
> two
> networks, one is running on 100.100.100.x and the other is running on
> 255.255.255.x.  This system is also acting as the gateway.
[CHEONG, Shu Yang (Patrick)]  Is the RH box acting as a gateway,
too?
> A colleague of mine also runs his system on Redhat 6.x and is able to view
> two networks on his system also having two ethernet adapters (Generic,
> dunno
> what brand they are).
> What I can't understand and which is giving me pain is that my system
> configured with Debian 2.1 cannot view the two networks.  I have two
> ethernet adapters (3Com) installed and if I configure both the cards with
> one pointing to the 100.100.100.x network and the other with the
> 255.255.255.x network, the system will not be able to ping any host out
> there (I have already configured the ifconfig and route similar to the RH
> 6.x systems).  But if I disable the 255.255.255.x network, I can ping and
> view the other systems.  If I do it the other way round, the system cannot
> detect any host whatever (Disable 100.100.100.x and enable 255.255.255.x).
> 
> I have checked the connections to the ethernet adapters and they are
> functioning.
> 
> I have updated my kernel to the 2.2.16 enabling masquarading but am still
> unable to detect any host when both the ethernet adapters are enabled.
> 
[CHEONG, Shu Yang (Patrick)]  I suggest you use the 2.2.17 kernel
instead (even the 2.2.17-preX-X which includes Alan Cox's patches) as IICR,
there were problems with the 2.2.16 kernel. Can't reccall whether the
problem was in relation to security or some other issue.

> What could be the problem here ?
> 
> I've included the ifconfig and route info for the gateway system and also
> my
> colleague's system for your info.  My system route and ifconfig
> information
> is as the ones below, but I still can't detect both networks.
> 
> $ /sbin/ifconfig
> eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:60:97:C4:FB:97
>   inet addr:202.190.130.195  Bcast:202.190.130.199
> Mask:255.255.255.248
>   UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
>   RX packets:12722 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>   TX packets:12388 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>   collisions:1 txqueuelen:100
>   Interrupt:5 Base address:0xe400
> 
> eth1  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:60:08:91:B1:C5
>   inet addr:100.100.100.150  Bcast:100.100.100.255
> Mask:255.255.255.0
>   UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
>   RX packets:16211 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>   TX packets:17041 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>   collisions:712 txqueuelen:100
>   Interrupt:9 Base address:0xe800
> 
[CHEONG, Shu Yang (Patrick)]  Something wrong here...there are too
many collisions. Have you checked to ensure there are no boxes on network
sharing the same ip address? Also you mentioned that you can "see" one
network if you disable the other?! This could mean that there is a conflict
between the ethernet cards...

> loLink encap:Local Loopback
>   inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
>   UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:3924  Metric:1
>   RX packets:2494 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:

RE: Network Configuration

[CHEONG, Shu Yang \[Patrick\]]

1.  Linuxconf is a Linux administration/configuration tool...as such any
Linux distribution can run it (see
http://www.solucorp.qc.ca/linuxconf/).

2.  Whoa...2 (I repeat 2) gateways...and 2 routersso which box acts
as gateway for which network..confusing isn't it andit may be the cause
of those collisions you see on the Debian box .I suggest one box be used as
a router and anotherbe used as the gateway (and firewall) to the
external network..


HTH

Regards.

Patrick Cheong
Information Systems Assurance
Measat Broadcast Network Systems
e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Visit us at: http://www.astro.com.my

> -Original Message-
> From: Saran [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 2:50 PM
> To:   CHEONG, Shu Yang [Patrick]; debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject:  RE: Network Configuration
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I thought linuxconf is only available on RedHat ?
> 
> Yes, the RH box is acting as the gateway for the network also.
> 
> Dunno about the kernel version, but I'll try it later.
> 
> As for the collisions, I'm not sure, but there has been no problems.
> Could
> this be the issue ?  Both the RH server and my colleague's RH PC can
> connect
> to the network, but my Debian can't.  When I boot up my PC, there are no
> conflict errors generated.  How do I check whether there are any conflicts
> other than this method ?
> 
> Note that I have not included the ifconfig and route info of my Debian PC
> here.  But basically, I configured as the ones below, with the IP address
> being the only difference.
> 
> Thanks in advance
> Saranjit Singh.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: CHEONG, Shu Yang [Patrick] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 2:41 PM
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: RE: Network Configuration
> 
> 
> See below
> 
> Patrick Cheong
> Information Systems Assurance
> Measat Broadcast Network Systems
> e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Visit us at: http://www.astro.com.my
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From:   Saran [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent:   Tuesday, September 12, 2000 2:05 PM
> > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> > Subject:Network Configuration
> > Importance: High
> >
> > Hi Guys,
> >
> > I just subscribed to this list to get more information regarding the
> > Debian
> > Linux, which kind of lacks a lot of information resources.  Most sites
> are
> > about RedHat Linux and as much as Debian is giving me problems, I still
> > like
> > to stick to this distribution instead of moving to RedHat.  I have
> several
> > questions that I'd like to ask namely :
> >     1.  Does Debian have any administrative tools akin to IBM AIX
> > smitty, smit,
> > wsm (Web System Management) whereby it allows me to administer and
> manage
> > the system without having to edit files and typing in complex commands
> > every
> > time ?
>   [CHEONG, Shu Yang (Patrick)]  Have you tried linuxconf?
> 
> > 2. This is critical and I am about to start banging my head on the
> > wall,
> > except that I still holding on to the hope that you guys can help me out
> > here.  Well, currently there is a system within my environment which is
> > running RedHat 6.x and it has two ethernet adapter (3Com) installed on
> the
> > system.  This system is running Masquarading (Sp ???), whereby there are
> > two
> > networks, one is running on 100.100.100.x and the other is running on
> > 255.255.255.x.  This system is also acting as the gateway.
>   [CHEONG, Shu Yang (Patrick)]  Is the RH box acting as a gateway,
> too?
> > A colleague of mine also runs his system on Redhat 6.x and is able to
> view
> > two networks on his system also having two ethernet adapters (Generic,
> > dunno
> > what brand they are).
> > What I can't understand and which is giving me pain is that my system
> > configured with Debian 2.1 cannot view the two networks.  I have two
> > ethernet adapters (3Com) installed and if I configure both the cards
> with
> > one pointing to the 100.100.100.x network and the other with the
> > 255.255.255.x network, the system will not be able to ping any host out
> > there (I have already configured the ifconfig and route similar to the
> RH
> > 6.x systems).  But if I disable the 255.255.255.x network, I can ping
> and
> > view the other systems.  If I do it the other way round, the system
> cannot
> > detect any host whatever (Disable 100.100.100.x and enable
> 255.255.255.x).
> >
> > I have checked the connections t

RE: Staroffice on Debian Potato

[CHEONG, Shu Yang \[Patrick\]]

Yup...installed 5.2 over the weekend.so far no problemshowever, the
Starwriter files saved as Word 5, Word 9X and Word 2000 was not
compatible..i.e. when I tried opening these files in Word 97, it said
something about file permissions.in Windoze 95!!!

I hope the Sun and Gnome folks improve the Suite in terms of speed and
compatibility ...so that we can give M$ Office a run for its money.



Cheers.

M$ > /dev/null

Patrick Cheong
Information Systems Assurance
Measat Broadcast Network Systems
e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Visit us at: http://www.astro.com.my

> -Original Message-
> From: Andreas Palsson [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 10:41 PM
> To:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject:  Staroffice on Debian Potato
> 
> 
> Anyone have experiences on installing StarOffice on Debian Potato?
> 
> Any problems at all installing or running the programs?
> 
> 
> regards...
>   Andreas
> --
>== andreas pålsson == [EMAIL PROTECTED] ==
> 
> 
> 
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RE: Help with mouse - newbie

[CHEONG, Shu Yang \[Patrick\]]

Have been following your threadwell here is what you need to do. 

Fire up dselect and select #1. Change the source to the cdrom...I think it's
the last option

Then go to #2 and update your packages database...

Then go to #3 and you should be able to see all the installed and available
packages on the cdroms

BTW...IIRC, you'd need to change the cdroms when prompted ...this basically
allows dselect to update the packages database for all packages on the 3
cdroms (for the official Debian GNU/Linux cds).


HTH

Patrick Cheong
Information Systems Assurance
Measat Broadcast Network Systems
e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Visit us at: http://www.astro.com.my

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 1:22 PM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject:  Re: Help with mouse - newbie
> 
> Thanks everyone for the help. I got my mouse working!! I changed the
> Protocol to PS/2, rebooted and it worked.  I ran dselect and it says
> that the textutils and shellutils packages are installed, yet I still
> get missing command errors.  You are correct in that we did a very
> minimal install.  My friend basically whipped through the whole
> installation because he's a Debian guru, so I don't really know what
> all he did.  I know that we didn't install very many packages.  I would
> like to know how to go about installing packages that are on the CD's. 
> We installed Debian from a set of 3 CD's, but he changed the apt setup
> so that it uses the internet to install packages.  Since I only have 50
> hours a month for my internet access I would like to install packages
> off the CD's instead of spending hours downloading everything through
> my (slow) 33.6k modem connection.  Once I get the packages installed
> then I can do an upgrade later, but right now I don't have very many
> things installed.  How do I set it up so that I can install packages
> from the CD's? When I choose the Access menu from dselect, it does not
> give me a cdrom option.  Thanks for your help.
> 
> Casey
> 
> ---
> Casey Henderson
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> "If the Lord wanted us to all be the same, he'd have given us all
> braces on our legs."
> 
>
> 
> 
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RE: Help with mouse - newbie

[CHEONG, Shu Yang \[Patrick\]]

Wooops...did not carefully read you last line...anybody on the list can shed
some light as to how to get the cdrom option appear in dselect..(maybe
the suggestion below would do it since dselect probably reads from the
sources.list file)...someone corect me if I am wrong.


well a work around would be to edit your sources.list file in
/etc/aptmake sure you enter the appropriate path to the packages.tgz
files

HTH

Patrick Cheong
Information Systems Assurance
Measat Broadcast Network Systems
e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Visit us at: http://www.astro.com.my

> -Original Message-
> From: CHEONG, Shu Yang [Patrick] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 3:03 PM
> To:   '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Cc:   'debian-user@lists.debian.org'
> Subject:  RE: Help with mouse - newbie
> 
> Have been following your threadwell here is what you need to do. 
> 
> Fire up dselect and select #1. Change the source to the cdrom...I think
> it's
> the last option
> 
> Then go to #2 and update your packages database...
> 
> Then go to #3 and you should be able to see all the installed and
> available
> packages on the cdroms
> 
> BTW...IIRC, you'd need to change the cdroms when prompted ...this
> basically
> allows dselect to update the packages database for all packages on the 3
> cdroms (for the official Debian GNU/Linux cds).
> 
> 
> HTH
> 
> Patrick Cheong
> Information Systems Assurance
> Measat Broadcast Network Systems
> e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Visit us at: http://www.astro.com.my
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent:   Wednesday, October 04, 2000 1:22 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> > Subject:Re: Help with mouse - newbie
> > 
> > Thanks everyone for the help. I got my mouse working!! I changed the
> > Protocol to PS/2, rebooted and it worked.  I ran dselect and it says
> > that the textutils and shellutils packages are installed, yet I still
> > get missing command errors.  You are correct in that we did a very
> > minimal install.  My friend basically whipped through the whole
> > installation because he's a Debian guru, so I don't really know what
> > all he did.  I know that we didn't install very many packages.  I would
> > like to know how to go about installing packages that are on the CD's. 
> > We installed Debian from a set of 3 CD's, but he changed the apt setup
> > so that it uses the internet to install packages.  Since I only have 50
> > hours a month for my internet access I would like to install packages
> > off the CD's instead of spending hours downloading everything through
> > my (slow) 33.6k modem connection.  Once I get the packages installed
> > then I can do an upgrade later, but right now I don't have very many
> > things installed.  How do I set it up so that I can install packages
> > from the CD's? When I choose the Access menu from dselect, it does not
> > give me a cdrom option.  Thanks for your help.
> > 
> > Casey
> > 
> > ---
> > Casey Henderson
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 
> > "If the Lord wanted us to all be the same, he'd have given us all
> > braces on our legs."
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > 
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> 
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RE: Suggestions for buying a modem

[CHEONG, Shu Yang \[Patrick\]]

My modem (USR x2 flashed to v.90 56k) got burnt last week.and I got a
replacement for it FOC...after using it for > 3 years (it has a 5 year
warranty including lightning...where I live, lightning is a norm)within
1 week. The connection is stable as hell and it connects to the ISP between
42-46K.

HTH

Patrick Cheong
Information Systems Assurance
Measat Broadcast Network Systems
e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Visit us at: http://www.astro.com.my

> -Original Message-
> From: Shaji N V [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2000 11:44 AM
> To:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject:  Suggestions for buying a modem
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> It turns out that I have a lucent winmodem which will not work on Linux (
> I 
> have done around 2 weeks of research on it !!). So I have to buy a new 
> modem. Any one has any suggestions/for a cheap, good modem available in
> Best 
> Buy/Circuit City etc.? And it should work with Debian 2.2
> 
> -Thanks,
> Shaji
> _
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> 
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RE: debian - newcomer

[CHEONG, Shu Yang \[Patrick\]]

What is this person trying to say here? (see italics below)

Patrick Cheong
Information Systems Assurance
Measat Broadcast Network Systems
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> -Original Message-
> From: guran remberg [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, October 13, 2000 4:35 PM
> To:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject:  debian - newcomer
> 
> Hi
> 
> I am new to this Potato and the installation went nice by Ethernet and
> your programs.
> 
> I downloaded from INRIA the scilab 2.5 in the deb variety and a
> xlib6g_3.3.6-10.deb. When installed , nothing was complained.
> 
> Gnome is new to me, most accustomed to KDE, so I have not learned how to
> fix an icon to the desk, and launched it from a terminal. Here is what I
> got:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ scilab
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ /usr/lib/scilab-2.5/bin/scilex: error in loading
> shared libraries: libtk8.0.so: cannot open shared object file: No such
> file or directory
> 
> then I did:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ locate libtk8.0.so
> /usr/lib/libtk8.0.so.1
> 
[CHEONG, Shu Yang (Patrick)]What the fine hell is this, do you
get a kick out of adding number to
> very ordinary libraries. My intension was to compile LyX from source
> with the addition of the needed XForm library. Seems to be a waste of
> time.
> 
[CHEONG, Shu Yang (Patrick)]In the seventies, communist groups
were said to become more by internal
> division and continous discussions about pure cause, is this your
> ambition?
> 
> regards
> guran
> 
> 
> 
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RE: update-inetd problem

[CHEONG, Shu Yang \[Patrick\]]

See below

Patrick Cheong
Information Systems Assurance
Measat Broadcast Network Systems
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> -Original Message-
> From: Dwight Johnson [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2000 12:27 AM
> To:   Michael P. Soulier
> Cc:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject:  Re: update-inetd problem
> 
> On Sat, 14 Oct 2000, Michael P. Soulier wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, Oct 13, 2000 at 10:55:35PM -0700, Dwight Johnson wrote:
> > > # update-inetd --add telnet
> > > The entry definition does not contain any whitespace characters!
> > > 
> > > What does this message mean? What am I doing wrong?
> > 
> > Wow. I didn't even know there was an update-inetd program. I always
> hack
> > the inetd.conf file by hand. 
> > Can't you just uncomment the telnet entry?
> 
> That's what I have always done on my Red Hat and SuSE installations. But
> on Debian 2.2, my inetd.conf file does not have a telnet entry to
> uncomment
> and the inetd.conf file begins with a commented caution to not change it
> except using 'update-inetd'.
> 
> But trying to make sense out of constructing an update-inetd add entry
> using 'man update-inetd' and the associated man pages is beyond me.
> 
> What does your inetd.conf telnet entry look like?
> 
> > You shouldn't use telnet
> > anyway, unless you're on a closed network. Too much cleartext. Use ssh. 
> 
> I would have tried that too, but 'apt-get install ssh' is unable to find
> the package on my 2.2 CD set. [CHEONG, Shu Yang (Patrick)]   Previously
> ssh was NOT OpenSSHbut I read somewhere that ssh in 2.2 is now based
> on OpenSSH. (Suggest you check the cds to see whether SSH came as part of
> the 3 cd set or is on the "4th cd - i.e. non-free/non-us) . I did not use
> apt-get to install ssh...instead, I compiled from source for both OpenSSL
> and OpenSSHworks like a charm. 
> 
> Thanks for your help,
> Dwight
> --
> Dwight Johnson
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
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RE: XFsetup

[CHEONG, Shu Yang \[Patrick\]]

Is GPM loading through /etc/rcX.d? If so, then you'd need to point to
/dev/gpmdata in XF86Setup instead of /dev/psaux or /dev/mouse.

You can determine this by moving your mouse at the console. If you see the
cursor moving (i.e. a grey rectangle), then GPM is running.


HTH

Patrick Cheong
Information Systems Assurance
Measat Broadcast Network Systems
e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> -Original Message-
> From: Eileen Orbell [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 2:35 AM
> To:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject:  Re: XFsetup
> 
> As i said in my message I downloaded the XF86_SVGA, actually when I run 
> startx it loads into xwindows but freezes up due the mouse error.  I no
> the 
> diff between a serial PS2 mouse but this seems weird to me.  I even used:
> 
> ln -s /dev/psaux /dev/mouse to send any program looking for /dev/mouse to 
> /dev/psaux
> 
> Still no luck!!
> 
>   At 11:33 AM 10/15/2000 -0400, you wrote:
> >On Sun, Oct 15, 2000 at 11:31:02AM -0400, Eileen Orbell wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I am still trying to config xwindows.  I have a ATI 16mg video card 
> > which I
> > > labeled as generic, as PS2 mouse.  I downloaded the XF86_SVGA.  When I
> run
> > > startx I still get no mouse and error returned
> > > FATAL SERVER ERROR
> > > Cannot open mouse (No such file - directory)
> > > What am I doing wrong?  This is really getting me down now (smile)
> >
> > Do you have a /dev/psaux device file? That's what it will look for
> if you
> >tell it to use a PS2 mouse. Are you sure it's PS2?
> >
> > The ATI is supported to my knowledge, so I'm not sure generic is the
> best
> >choice. As long as you're sure it's supported by the SVGA server. Plus,
> are
> >you using the SVGA server? You should have an /etc/X11/Xserver file that
> looks
> >something like this:
> >
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] msoulier]$ cat /etc/X11/Xserver
> >/usr/bin/X11/XF86_SVGA
> >Console
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >--
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> >"...the word HACK is used as a verb to indicate a massive amount
> >of nerd-like effort."  -Harley Hahn, A Student's Guide to UNIX
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> >
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> 
> Eileen Orbell
> Software & Internet Applications
> Capitol College
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Don't Fear the Penguin.
> 
> 
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RE: Telnet FTP

[CHEONG, Shu Yang \[Patrick\]]

> ae /etc/inetd.conf

comment out the telnet and ftp lines

also, I would normally use dselect and remove both the telnet and ftp
packages..

if you do not want to remove the packages, then remove from rcX.d the
scripts which fire up the daemons for ftp and telnet
For example:-

> mv /etc/rcX.d/SXXtelnet /etc/rcX.d/~SXXtelnet


HTH


Patrick Cheong
Information Systems Assurance
Measat Broadcast Network Systems
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> -Original Message-
> From: Eileen Orbell [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 9:30 AM
> To:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject:  Telnet FTP
> 
> Hi,
> 
> What is the best way to disable or better still un-install Telnet and FTP 
> packages?  I am using ssh now and want to close both FTP and Telnet ports 
> down.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
> Eileen Orbell
> Software & Internet Applications
> Capitol College
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Don't Fear the Penguin.
> 
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RE: Problems setting DMA

[CHEONG, Shu Yang \[Patrick\]]

Which motherboard are you using? If you are using one with the ALi 15XX
chipset, then you cannot set dma via hdparm...you'd have to fetch a patch
for the kernel and enable dma via the kernelthe patch is
kernel-ide-2.2.17 (for the 2.2.17 kernel) or something like that (can't
rememebr the exact name)once patched, you will see under block devices
the option to enable dma...


HTH

Patrick Cheong
Information Systems Assurance
Measat Broadcast Network Systems
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> -Original Message-
> From: Lazar Fleysher [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 1:41 AM
> To:   Leonardo Dias
> Cc:   Debian User
> Subject:  Re: Problems setting DMA
> 
> I have a similar problem. Maybe even worse.. If I change the way the hard
> drives are connected (like swap hda and hdb), changin the master/slave
> jumpers, the system does not boot at all...
> I had to find, what it seems a unique configuration in which it boots, but
> no DMA on the second IDE channel. I could turn DMA on with hdparam and as
> soon as I accessed the disk, it was disabled as in your case...
> I gave-up... I blame it on the stupid PIIX (Triton) chip, I have...
> Or maybe I am stupid, which is possible too :-)
> Anyway, I am following this thread with interest... :-)
> 
> 
> > Then I'll run a program that requires a disk read, such as, for example,
> > find /
> > 
> > It locks for a while (about ten seconds) then I run dmesg. The last
> > lines are self-explanative:
> > 
> > 
> > hdc: timeout waiting for DMA
> > hdc: irq timeout: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest }
> > hdc: timeout waiting for DMA
> > hdc: irq timeout: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest }
> > hdc: timeout waiting for DMA
> > hdc: irq timeout: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest }
> > hdc: timeout waiting for DMA
> > hdc: irq timeout: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest }
> > hdc: DMA disabled
> > ide1: reset: success
> > 
> > 
> > The system disables DMA. It gives me an IRQ timeout.
> > 
> > BIOS is fine. Everything is fine but DMA. What should I do? Break my
> > MotherBoard in half? :-))
> > 
> > I've already tried hdparm -c 0, -c 1, -c 2, -c 3. I've also tried hdparm
> > -u 1. Results: Still no DMA.
> > 
> > Wierd, eh?
> 
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RE: Installing kernel sources

[CHEONG, Shu Yang \[Patrick\]]

>$apt-get install kernel-source-2.2.17...

However, I normally use dselect...

Once completed cd  to /usr/src...and you will find a file
kernel-source-2.2.17.bz2...just

>$bzunzip2 kernel-source-2.2.17.bz2

you should now have a file kernel-source-2.2.17.tar. Do

>$tar xvf kernel-source-2.2.17

and you should see the file contents flyby on your screen. Since the generic
place for keeping the kernel sources is in /usr/src/linux, crate a symlink
from /usr/src/linux to /usr/src/kernel-source-2.2.17 using the following

>$ln -s /usr/src/kernel-source-2.2.17 /usr/src/linux

Now cd into /usr/src/linux and continue with "make config (or menuconfig or
xconfig), make dep, make modules, make modules_install and make
bzImage"I suggest you read the man pages for compiling the kernel

HTH

Patrick Cheong
Information Systems Assurance
Measat Broadcast Network Systems
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> -Original Message-
> From: Ray Percival [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 8:15 AM
> To:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject:  Installing kernel sources
> 
> Does anyone out there have a step by step to install kernel sources on
> 2.2. Thanks very much
> 
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