Re: debian disk is dying
On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Jude DaShiell jdash...@shellworld.net wrote: The hardware needs to be returned to the factory for a warranty-covered replacement. I have an esata docking station and an esata hard drive I can put this system on though. I'm using the command line and figure I'll Two things you might to to help diagnose the problem: First attempt to move the drive to some other known, working system that allows someone with a bit more experience to diagnose the problem, and since you already have esata, then of course you want to be able to ensure compatibility with another system. This allows more diagnosis without other factors creeping in. Of course, if it is your primary boot (/ root partition) then that is more difficult. First you should back up your data, but maybe cpio is not the right tool. Some people are so used to cpio (in fact the fist time I encountered it was as a rank niewbie to Unix,;in fact I knew Bill and Lynne Jolitz). I've just never been that comfortable using it as a primary method even though I know it is a critical system tool that other things use (deb package infrastructure being one of the most prominent.) Of course learning about how to use cpio may be important, but if your data is that critical, you want to know how to backup all your data using comfortable tools. One of the constructs I've use in the past basically go like: 1) mount the media to be backed up, if it hasn't been done already (step one is a given) 2) take the known good receiving partition, preferably a spare place that has enough available space) 3) run something like this - and getting all the parameters exact will be problematic, so I start with a few files first, see if that does the job, then I adjust until I kinow the process will work. \ $ tar -cf . | (cd /mountpoint ; tar -xf -) This is basically stuff, and the parameters need to be salted to taste, basic concerns are: 1) do you have write access to your receiving place's filesystem? 2) will the permissions, ownerships etc, be preserved? 3) will it not screw up my attempt? All are crucial. One of the most common mistakes that I still hafve issues with from time to time is relative vs. absolute, and knowing well in advance that the data I plop down elsewhere are where they should reside. To answer the other part - don't even try and backup directories like /tmp, /dev/, /proc /sys, and go single user if you want to backup /var, because that content may or (perhaps will) be different from the time you start the backup until you finish. The only reason I mentioned this is that it can trip you up for two reasons: 1) those directories (with the exception of /var, and maybe two others that I've forgotten to mention) are not real directories, they are created and maintained by external, or kernel processes. Corollary to 1): It saves space on the backup medium, and (more importantly) tar and other tools have some way to create a list of filenames/pathnames to automatically skip. Whether another tool is more appropriate is another issue. One reason for suggesting tar over other methods is that it is basically guaranteed to exist on every system. What could be worse than saying you need a special tool or suite that is really really good (TM) to backup from if it is not going to allow you to restore your data? Apologies for rambling. -- thanks for letting me change the magnetic patterns on your hard disk. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: see ya
On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 11:40 PM, Johann Spies jsp...@sun.ac.za wrote: On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 01:07:56AM -0400, S. Fishpaste wrote: Ah go back to TLUG you frickin twit. You were an arsehole there and are one here. That was rude and unnecessary. Sure, and from what I can tell it was an over the top to the extreme (which I didn't catch) response to a simple mistake made by the OP (ie posting an empty message by mistake.) That in and of itself is unforgivable. Personally I am tired of all the flack about who sent what messages where, who didn't reply to list properly, and let's just agree to cease discussion of that unless you want to send a *gentle* reminder to someone for educational purposes. There is very little email, apart from those that masquerade as artifices to defraud, that I hate. The latter of course can be replied to any way you want :). (so long at is off list). 419's are a favorite of mine. But there's no way i''ll ever get pulled over for some of the outrageous replies I've sent to those people. I think followups should go to the offtopic list, and discussion closed here. You never know how many potential users you might have just turned off from the experience. It's hardly worth the bandwidth it gets. I won't respond further on this issue. -- Johann Spies Telefoon: 021-808 4599 Informasietegnologie, Universiteit van Stellenbosch Blessed is that man that maketh the LORD his trust, and respecteth not the proud, nor such as turn aside to lies. Psalms 40:4 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org -- thanks for letting me change the magnetic patterns on your hard disk. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
see ya
ACK! Sorry for posting to the user and not the list! On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 1:51 PM, deb...@waysoft.com wrote: Interesting how opinions can differ so much between reasonable people (which I'm pretty sure I am, and I'll assume you are). In addition I'm sure the list quality here (and has been in my experience) is better than that of ubuntu-users, which is most of the time a helpful list too, but if you're not lucky, you might get the help of An Inept Person (and I'm sure JoeHill might be able to guess who it might be) who usually doesn't offer any help, or if he does, the help he offers has zero to do with the original question. There was a post today and even I chimed in with what I thought were suggestions to see how I can get him out of his mess - and he goes and thanks two people, one being the Inept Person (tm) and I think I just wasted my time. I don't do tech support or sysadmin for a career. But there are times I think I can help too. to the few times that I've asked for (and even offered) help, I've gotten tons of useful info just lurking here. In fact, one of the Me too. I've been using Linux since well before Mandriva, and I typically subscribe at first to the support lists for the distribution I'm running at the moment, but Debian is of such use (although I currently run 64 bit Ubuntu Jaunty) that many of the same helps applies. I'd rather ask tech support questions here if they aren't Ubuntu specific, or fnd some other mailing list that specializes in the issue set directly (like gimp users or whatever it is for gimp questions, as a off the cuff example). (This addresses JoeHill's issue directly - I try to be careful about mailing list posts to the subscriber too, thus eliminating double posts, but hey, we're not perfect.) -- thanks for letting me change the magnetic patterns on your hard disk. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: see ya
On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com wrote: Regarding the latter, I don't think you want to check the mplayer: jumping around thread. Joe doesn't seem familiar with decency. I thought he was perfectly decent. He inquired about maybe your touchpad being an issue, but never did I see a negative tone or anything condescending. (Speaking of laptops, I have a Fujitsu that is all around a good laptop but it's the touchpad that is too sensitive. It often makes me find myself bouncing the cursor around on the screen in the middle of composing an email, and sometimes it drives me crazy.) Liviu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org -- thanks for letting me change the magnetic patterns on your hard disk. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: see ya
On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 5:07 PM, green greenfreedo...@gmail.com wrote: You should be able to adjust your touchpad behavior with gsynaptics or in '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'... Well, that is a good step in the right direction. Thanks. I'll experiment further. -- thanks for letting me change the magnetic patterns on your hard disk. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Could you recommend CD/DVD writer program?
On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 7:33 AM, J.Hwan.Kim j.hwan.ki...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, everyone Could you recommend CD/DVD writer program except gnomebaker ? Thanks in advance. k3b works well for easily transferring a set of files over to a CD, or to put a bunch of mp3s or what have you and convert them on the fly to CD format. But for writing DVDs, mostly images or output of other conversion programs (mpeg2) I stick to growisofs with a wrapper sometimes, or straight from the command line. In my experience, I've had better success with growisofs early on. -- thanks for letting me change the magnetic patterns on your hard disk. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: How much RAM can debian support?
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 6:34 PM, Stan Hoeppner s...@hardwarefreak.com wrote: A $600 full length ISA card and a cable to the 8088 socket quadrupled my system performance in about 15 minutes. Best upgrade I ever made. My first computer was in the early 80s and it had 16K of RAM (TRS 80). I think 64 bit debian will likely support more ram than any systems integrator will be able to put in a box. Of course, don't come and quote me on that in 2013 sometime :). I've known people to tell me that they'd never need more than a 20 meg HD, too :). Personally, I don't see a need to go 128 bit on a main cpu unless you have a desire to count and enumerate every elementary particle in the known universe, without a) running out of RAM, or b) spilling the content into a multiregister add/adc pair. :) -- thanks for letting me change the magnetic patterns on your hard disk. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: segmentation fault with NVIDIA 32bit part
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 9:46 PM, lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de wrote: Then there would need to be only two packages: vdpau for those who need it, and the rest (which could suggest vdpau which could tell you which cards can use it). Doing that would probably not be possible, given the nature of this particular component. nvidia's drivers have always had a kernel-space component and a user-space component (the user-space component is nvidia-glx, the kernel is nvidia-kernel-source or variations thereof). Not having nvidia's drivers completely opem makes the process more complicated, since other drivers (intel, for example) have begun to put some of their code in the kernel proper, but essentially from the user's perspective it's a unified driver that exists totally in userspace. What complicates the matter further is that the kernel space part of the driver has to match the kernel you run. If you're on stable or testing then you might not have new versions of the kernel just popping up, but if you change the kernel, you have to rebuild the module. In some respect ubuntu automates this process - and perhaps debian does as well; I've not actively used nvidia since switching to intel back in December. But for instance, my virtualbox has a kernel space part and that gets automatically updated as part of the upgrade process any time the kernel changes. (And on karmic, new revs of the kernel are somewhat frequent.) But in general, separation of components is not uncommon. Sometimes documentation is separated from the executable, or a development set is separated from the libraries. That's to save on space, and not everyone who has a particular library needs the development component automatically installed. -- thanks for letting me change the magnetic patterns on your hard disk. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: segmentation fault with NVIDIA 32bit part
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 9:33 PM, lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de wrote: On Tue, Oct 06, 2009 at 08:00:52PM -0700, David Fox wrote: More to the point, since you have an amd64 system, why bother with ia32 components? I don't recall any need for ia32 for nvidia. Where do you get a 64bit version of X3? Or X2? Quake? Doom? Tribal Trouble? And so on ... I think I meant that you didn't need ia32 for nvidia. You'll of course need it for things that aren't available as 64-bit executables, or not available as source. Over here, that is a pretty short list, since I'm not into games much :). -- thanks for letting me change the magnetic patterns on your hard disk. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: segmentation fault with NVIDIA 32bit part
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 9:46 PM, lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de wrote: Link where? :) I have a 9800GT. Oops, I forgot the link. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VDPAU Unfortunately, there's no roll-back option in aptitude ... or is there? If there was, there won't be any need to decide between stable, That would be nice. Installing the previous version (kept in /var/cache/apt/archives) did it for me. But rollbacks would be good. -- thanks for letting me change the magnetic patterns on your hard disk. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: segmentation fault with NVIDIA 32bit part
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 10:27 AM, lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de wrote: cat:/home/lee# /emul/ia32-linux/usr/lib/libGLcore.so.1 Segmentation fault cat:/home/lee# You can't run a library directly. More to the point, since you have an amd64 system, why bother with ia32 components? I don't recall any need for ia32 for nvidia. Later you make a reference to nvidia-glx, and nvidia-glx-ia32 - they say they have the same functionality, but one is amd64 and the other one is ia32, for mixed 32 64 bit compatible systems. It's been a while since I ran debian, but I ran ubuntu 64 bit with their nvidia drivers (coming from Debian) and I don't recall any dependency on 32 bit stuff. There was some, but it was basically for things like googleearth etc. -- thanks for letting me change the magnetic patterns on your hard disk. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: segmentation fault with NVIDIA 32bit part
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 6:59 PM, lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de wrote: And nvidia-kernel-common: This package contains files shared between NVIDIA module packages. Common refers essentially to support files., You should install the package, but it's not dependent on the driver or the version of the kernel. nvidia-kernel-source: This package builds the NVIDIA Xorg binary kernel module needed by nvidia-glx. For whatever kernel you have. It's tied to the specific release of the driver version, whatever that may be from testing/unstable. Since it is source, after you do a module-assistant auto-install, it'll compile that driver for the kernel you have. Since you have a non-standard kernel, there might be problems, but then again there may not be. I don't know about vdpaul --- is that included in the nvidia installer? vdpau is something that's special to some higher-end nvidia cards. You may not need that, depending on what card you have. The link here [1] itemizes supported cards. Why are the package descriptions so poor, and why can't there just be one package you install? It would be nice, but essentially you need three components, nvidia-glx, nvidia-common and nvidia-kernel-source. The first and third have to match as far as the driver revision, otherwise you get nasty messages from X. One of these should autoinstall nvidia-common since it may be dependent on the other two. But it's been sometime since I messed with nvidia (now using on board Intel graphics). Since my card isn't even supported in testing, I'd have to get those packages from unstable. I've tried using packages from unstable a couple times, but the results haven't been good. Using pinning and judicious use of aptitude install package -t unstable when only necessary should make things easier. There have been occasions when I needed the nvidia driver from (then) unstable. This was over a year ago when I was using an nvidia card on an old 32 bit system. Once it worked like a charm, the other time I found that the driver update had (wrongly) decided to include support for instructions that my processor did not support (movaps/movups). Turns out that the driver was compiled this way, and the only recourse to get it to work was to downgrade the package to the prior version. Since I now have an amd64 I can put such frustration behind me, but it's bitten me before several times. (My prior cpu was an Athlon Tbird/1000 which had some support for mmx/3dnow, but assumptions were made occasionally that said basically any modern 386 based system would support these instructions, and support for them only arrived in later versions of the AMD platform.) And it was with some other distributions at well. -- thanks for letting me change the magnetic patterns on your hard disk. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Mini 10v
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 12:38 AM, Andrei Popescu andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: - because it's on a stick it has no swap - this machine is good enough for the typical MPEG-4 movies (on my hi-res TV), but I don't want to risk skips in the middle of the movie just because postfix is running it's queue or whatever. I seriously doubt that you'll experience hiccups like that. Until I moved anent to a different internet provider, I was connected via DSL and I ran my own mail server (postfix) 24/7 on an Athlon Thunderbird (1000 mhz, which initially had 256 megs of RAM (this was in 2001) and later memory was increased to 768k. Even though I was doing some rather heavy processing most of the time, including not only watching movies, but doing a ton of video conversions (some having run overnight if not longer) I never noticed any slowdown that could be attributable to postfix and spamassassin. I didn't run a mail server really, in that I wasn't serving mail for users other than myself, but I was subscribed to some rather busy mailing lists (including this one), so postfix was kept busy, since I rarely if ever did pop3. -- thanks for letting me change the magnetic patterns on your hard disk. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Silverlight/Moonlight/Tuva
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 2:00 AM, Jan Willem Stumpeljstum...@planet.nl wrote: Has anyone succeeded in using the moonlight packages in order to view the videos at Microsoft's Tuva project? If so, which packages are needed exactly / which tricks? A few clickthroughs on that particular site suggest that they 1) have a clue and 2) actually point you to a moonlight plugin that may in fact work. MS might actually be conceding that the Linux OS actually exists! :) OTOH, I had in fact installed moonlight on this Ubuntu Jaunty system to listen to some radio station content and after doing that, the thing just worked. Perhaps I need a newer Moonlight to make this work, and optionally make some other video content (e.g., ABC network shows) work (which so far haven't been able to be watched in anything but vista :(. The clickthrough ends up here: http://go-mono.com/moonlight/ But all that tells me is that I'm running the current version of moonlight (1.01). On the other hand, moonlight-plugin-mozila (presumably that's the right package) wasn't installed, although I know that I did the moonlight dance sometime back, IIRC. Well, off to reload the browser and see what transpires. -- thanks for letting me change the magnetic patterns on your hard disk. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Silverlight/Moonlight/Tuva
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 2:00 AM, Jan Willem Stumpeljstum...@planet.nl wrote: Has anyone succeeded in using the moonlight packages in order to view the videos at Microsoft's Tuva project? If so, which packages are needed exactly / which tricks? I didn't get it to work. I reloaded firefox, brought up the site again, same thing. It thinks the silverlight / moonlight isn't loaded, although the clicktrhough site says it is. about: plugins in firefox says it is too. The abc.com videos play normally; no mention is made that silverlight is a requirement. -- thanks for letting me change the magnetic patterns on your hard disk. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: inode question
On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 2:09 AM, Eugene Apolinaryeugeneapolinar...@yahoo.com wrote: Could that be possible to find the same inode, just because of there are two filesystems? Yes, of course. Each fs is independent of the other, hence it is possible to have two inode entries with the same number. Of course they'd not point to the same file. \ -- thanks for letting me change the magnetic patterns on your hard disk. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Happy birthday Debian
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 4:29 AM, Chris Bannistermockingb...@earthlight.co.nz wrote: Also http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WusQjMnD0cs while you eat it. Neil Sedaka? I almost threw up. -- thanks for letting me change the magnetic patterns on your hard disk. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Happy birthday Debian
On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 7:57 AM, Chrisrac...@makeworld.com wrote: Same here... Now, where's the cake?! It's only an apt-get install away... ;) -- -- thanks for letting me change the magnetic patterns on your hard disk. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Happy birthday Debian
On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Alice Ferrazzialiceinw...@gnumerica.org wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- apt-get install debian-cake The following packages are BROKEN: debian-cake: dependency problems - debian-cake depends on debian-candles, but is not installable someone has to file a bug against libicing too :) -- thanks for letting me change the magnetic patterns on your hard disk. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: 64-bit *libraries* in 32-bit repositories???
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 5:24 AM, Ron Johnsonron.l.john...@cox.net wrote: But why the opposite, like lib64bz2-1.0 in the i386 repository? Maybe just for the converse reason, running amd64 binaries on a mostly 32-bit userland setup. I guess this would work with a 32-bit kernel. For much the same reason, some libraries are compiled to take better advantage of 32-bit hardware than building them as if they were only a 386 or 486, for extra speed. libbz2 would likely qualify for special treatment like that, because it's compute-bound. Some years ago, when I was just starting out with Debian, and only had an Athlon Tbird (which couldn't do even some of the later intel multimedia sse2 instructions) I had some libraries that were automatically installed that took advantage of extra features in 686 higher processors. But I also found that there were a slew of amd64 libraries in /lib64 or someplace like that that also happened to get installed too. Eventually, I deleted those libraries as there wasn't going to be any way my CPU could make use of them. They shouldn't have gotten automatically installed. But of course, that was ao couple of years ago on testing (which eventually became etch). -- thanks for letting me change the magnetic patterns on your hard disk. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Debian AMD64 and Intel CPUs
On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 2:24 PM, T o n gmlist4sunt...@yahoo.com wrote: Can someone tell me what kind of Intel CPUs have that EM64T? Any easy rule of thumb? E.g., can I safely assume all those Intel 64 Duecore are One needs to be careful with Intel nomenclature. Some CoreDuos are 32 bit only, but most if not all core 2 duos can do 64bit. Actually, 64 bit is pretty commonplace these days, unless you have a fairly old processor. But to be certain, the rule of thumb is to do a 'cat /proc/cpuinfo' and look for the lm (long mode) flag. The presence of that flag indicates 64 bit capability. Another caveat relating somewhat to Intel chips - it is best to query intel directly regarding the feature set of the intended processor model number, not only for 64 bit (which most will have) but for virtualization capability, which some will not have. I pointed this out at a gathering yesterday -- if you look at the more recent offerings from intel, some of the lower end CPUs will have VT capability, but other newer ones will not, and then later on, VT capability resumes. It's as if the feature is disabled in some of their processors. I surmise this only affects some virtualizattion. For instance, on my Q6600 (core 2 quad, not the most screamingly fast cpu, but more than adequate for my needs) I can do Virtualbox fine, but on my laptop (Core2Duo T5800) virtualization is not supported, at least not by Virtualbox, as the CPU seems to omit this feature. -- thanks for letting me change the magnetic patterns on your hard disk. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: new ekiga: taking too much cpu
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 7:58 PM, H.S.hs.sa...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, After a recent upgrade we got new Ekiga in Testing (Ekiga 3.2.1~git20090515.9d0263-1). Wonderful, since the last version of You might try downloading the source for 3.2.4 off Ekiga's website along with the corresponding ptlib and opal libraries, and compile them locally. I am running it on Ubuntu Jaunty at present. It's not that hard to compile up once you've got the dependencies sorted out. -- thanks for letting me change the magnetic patterns on your hard disk. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: error while loading shared libraries: libopenal.so.0
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Aniruddhamailingdotl...@gmail.com wrote: I try to install a 32-bit program in 64-bit Debian but I get the following message: 'error while loading shared libraries: Have you installed the 32-bit compatibility libraries? Anytime you manually install a library (and really, you should let the packaging system do this) you have to rerun ldconfig to update what the system thinks the libraries should be. Do you have, for instance, /usr/lib32 as one of the search paths in your /etc/ld.so.conf file? Realistically, the 32 bit program should have installed itself + the two shared libraries, probably pulling in the other 32-bit compatibility libraries as a dependency if they were not already installed for some other reason (running GoogleEarth, for instance), and should have updated the ld.so configuration automatically as part of the postinstall routine. If not, it might be a packaging bug. Error when loading shared libraries might mean that it couldn't find the library, or maybe you have a missing symbol. In the latter case, file a bug against the library package (is it installable separately?). -- thanks for letting me change the magnetic patterns on your hard disk. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: squeeze grep is broken
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 8:57 AM, Jude DaShielljdash...@shellworld.net wrote: I tried a command line like: grep -in print-installation-architecture * | less cr and got me a surprise. I was in /var/lib/dpkg/info when I did I don't think this is a bug at all. When you do the command, the shell is trying to expand the file list for * and that will (on my system) result in over 8000 filenames - which then gets passed to grep. So it's not a bug in grep at all, because grep isn't doing the globbing. -- thanks for letting me change the magnetic patterns on your hard disk. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: squeeze grep status
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 9:32 AM, Jude DaShielljdash...@shellworld.net wrote: Apparently argument list too long is an operating system error. I made it happen with ed too. I can divide and conquer though by limiting argument lists with regular expressions in this case. That's always an option, or you could use xargs. Argument list too long is utlimately a kernel limitation. Your example worked on my ubuntu system - but there are 8400 some odd files in that directory, and that's a pretty big argument list. Historically, the linux kernels have been compiled with a fairly large size for the command line - usually on the order of 128K or so, which should be ample. I thought it might be shell-dependent, but it isn't (ubuntu default shell seems to be dash but executing the command under bash resulted in the same output.) Evidently, the kernel that's in Jaunty must be compiled with a higher limit for this buffer than the one in Debian squeeze. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org -- thanks for letting me change the magnetic patterns on your hard disk. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: mass conversion from ogg to mp3--open formats
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 6:49 PM, ZephyrQ zeph...@sbcglobal.net wrote: it at a friends house) or needs marching band music (a HUGE gap in Linux support, BTW). She has also given up trying to convince me to load XP 'just so I can get stuff done'. I hope you're not hinting that Linux and marching band music don't go together :). Why is it so hard to find appliances (cell phones, etc.) or production apps (sheet music, etc.) that support open formats? Especially when it is cheaper/easier/faster/more convenient to just 'pick from the list'. There are open cell phones - it's just that the Iphone isn't one of them, it seems. OpenMoko and Android seem to be better. But I don't have or use cell phones, and I'm a luddite in that respect. Then again, there are a number of mp3 players that support ogg. Even those that don't explicitly mention it, I've been suprised to find, can handle ogg files without screwing up. I just had to retire my Ivo Sound M620 (worked perfectly with Linux) media player last week when the stem in an aftermarket headphone decided to break off *in* the player. So I went around and looked at Amazon, and picked up from Ebiz Pro LLC (in Boise ID) a replacement media player that only set me back $83 including shipping. And I got it in 2 days (I'm in California). There are some rough edges, but the player does work with Linux (I will probably have to tweak HAL to make it work better) and holds 16 GB capacity. Not bad. And it'll play ogg files just fine - even though it isn't advertised or documented that it does. And if you're looking for sheet music - there's tons of it at the Petrucci Music Library (http://imslp.org/wiki/Main_Page) - all either public domain or Creative Commons licensed stuff. All pdfs. Will keep your printer busy for a while :). -- thanks for letting me change the magnetic patterns on your hard disk. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Which 64-bit version to use
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 10:19 AM, Bret Busby b...@busby.net wrote: For 64-bit version, Ubuntu has only the AMD64 version. Which is all you need. On the Debian web page at http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/ , the architectures supported, include AMD64 and Intel IA-64. Debian supports IA-64, Ubuntu does not. IA-64 is Itanium, which is a completely different CPU that was originally targeted at servers, not desktops. Unless you have an Itanium processor, you don't need or want this, because the code is completely different. What exactly the EM64T extension is, or whether it is applicable to the CPU, I do not know. EM64T is Intel's variant of the AMD64 extensions. In today's usage, there are little if no differences between the two, and the terms are interchangeable. So, is the AMD64 ISO image, the appropriate one for a laptop with an Intel Core 2 Duo processor, or is the Intel IA-64 the appropriate image (and, if so, does it work?) ? You'll want amd64. Some people would suggest sticking with a 32-bit on such a system, because of the relatively low-memory footprint. OTOH, when I put together my first 64-bit system last summer, I only had 2 gigs of RAM, and I went to 64-bit. My current systems have a bit more RAM (3 gigs on the laptop, and 4 on the desktop Core2Quad), so for me, it's 64 bit all the way :). -- thanks for letting me change the magnetic patterns on your hard disk. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: digitalizing audio records from vinyl supports
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 7:04 AM, ow...@netptc.net wrote: If your turntable doesn't have a line out (mine didn't) you can purchase an in-line preamp for a modest sum (mine was purchased from DAK) I'll think you'll find that you need to use a preamp for any turntable to sound card connection, because phonographs have a different impedance than other line-out devices. Larry -- thanks for letting me change the magnetic patterns on your hard disk. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: using debian dvd iso image with apt
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 4:51 AM, Raffaele Morelli raffaele.more...@gmail.com wrote: Hi you all, I have 3 debian boxes (two i386 and one amd64) which are not connected to the network so I usually do upgrades by downloading weekly generated dvd iso images, burning images to a dvd-rw and running apt-cdrom add apt-upgrade. Look into using jigdo. The way that works is that you download a template file for the debian weekly builds. Then you download eventually a full dvd of the debian-weekly ISO, use that for your updates, and then in a week, you regenerate the dvd content, but you only have to download the changed files, since jigdo will use the existing dvd-rw as a source. Or you can have one machine with all the debs available and point the other machines to it as a source, but then you need to set up a local area network to accomplish that. You could also keep /var/cache/apt/archives up to date on a source machnie and use a usb stick to keep the other machines current, syncing /var/cache/apt/archives to the usb stick, and mount the usb stick under /var/cache/apt. -- thanks for letting me change the magnetic patterns on your hard disk. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Using UNRAR (create 1 iso from 19 archives)
On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 8:58 AM, Felix Miata mrma...@ij.net wrote: On http://www.dvdboard.de/forum/showthread.php?t=121319 are links to 19 RAR archives, plus md5, plus a .sfv file that contains a list of the 19 files with what looks like checksums, that I downloaded. I am instructed there Running unrar on the first part of the file should automatically bring in the other parts, which will create the file. -- thanks for letting me change the magnetic patterns on your hard disk. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: debiantutorials.org seeks input and new blood
oops. I wanted this to go to the list. darn gmail :( On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 6:13 AM, David Fox dfox94...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 4:56 AM, Miles Fidelman It's a reference manual, not a getting started book - and like any reference manual it tries to have everything you might possibly need, but isn't designed to be read cover-to-cover - including everything from an Another site to look at (not for Debian specifically) is FLOSS manuals. I know one of the documenters personally. http://en.flossmanuals.net/ They can use some help. The manuals (such as they are) are introductory but you can print a copy on demand and have the book shipped to you. And it's a collaborative effort. -- thanks for letting me change the magnetic patterns on your hard disk. -- thanks for letting me change the magnetic patterns on your hard disk. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: magic sysRq
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 11:47 PM, Brad Rogers b...@fineby.me.uk wrote: Why S twice? Or just a mistake? Probably overkill. Habits die hard, and for instance 'sync;sync;sync' is probably engrained into the fingers of many a Unix admin, but it's probably overkill. Reminds me of that line from Kitchen Table Software source (TRS80 days): 10 CLS:CLS:CLS:CLS:'CLEAR SCREEN REALLY GOOD :) -- thanks for letting me change the magnetic patterns on your hard disk. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: can't install xfdesktop from unstable
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 11:26 AM, JoeHill joeh...@teksavvy.com wrote: node1:/home/joehill# apt-cache policy xfdesktop4 xfdesktop4: Installed: (none) Candidate: 4.4.2-7 Version table: 4.6.0-2 0 800 http://debian.yorku.ca unstable/main Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status 4.4.2-7 0 900 http://debian.yorku.ca testing/main Packages Hmm. So pinning here would prefer to install the older version of the package, which isn't what you want. I think that using 'aptitude -t unstable install' and listing both packages might help, but if Boyd is seeing a more recent version of xfdesktop-data than the one on yorku.ca, maybe your mirror is just not synced yet, or you might try another mirror. Or, wait a little while for the packages to sync. -- thanks for letting me change the magnetic patterns on your hard disk. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: openoffice_impress troubles konqueror??
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 8:56 AM, steef debian.li...@home.nl wrote: hi list, please read this explanation with some patience. for my wife i produce large files (slides) with openoffice_impress upto 140 MB. for her presentations. before hearings of scientists i have to convert these files into .ppt (windows) files. Tell the scientists they should use Open Office. :) 140 MB sounds huge. Have you investigated (top, iostat, vmstat, etc) to see where the bottleneck might be? Are you trying to use konqueror at the same time as Impress? I have never tried to make files that big with Open Office but I suspect you may have some memory capacity problems. That's why I suggest top to see what resource Open Office is trying to use while you manipulate that file. I'm curious why Konqueror would thrash on that directory as well (provided you aren't trying it at the same time as Impress is open) - does it exhibit similar behavior if opened in a different directory? I wonder if it is trying to open the .ppt file since it sees it in the directory in order to display a thumbnail and then deciding that it is going to take an awful lot of VM to do what you've asked for. strace might help to get a feel for what is actually going on. What are the specs on the machine you are using? Can you easily upgrade the RAM? -- thanks for letting me change the magnetic patterns on your hard disk. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Duvida
2009/4/22 André França andre.franc...@hotmail.com: Olá Pessoal, me chamo André Luiz, e moro em Aracaju-SE; A pouco tempo comecei a instalar o Debian 5.0 no meu Notebook e na I think you want to ask the Portuguese mailing list http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-portuguese/ -- thanks for letting me change the magnetic patterns on your hard disk. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Instalacion de debian
2009/4/21 Jimmy Muñoz Bravo jbmb1s...@gmail.com: Buenas noches señores de Debian Me gustaria instalar debian en mi pc. No tengo linux y quiero aprender a instalarlo y utilizarlo. Les describo mi computador para que me recomienden q version de debian le Hola! Mi Espanol no esta bueno - puede escribirle en espanol con la lista de Debian en espanol debian-user-span...@lists.debian.org. En esta lista se comunicarle en ingles. Pase un buen dia -- thanks for letting me change the magnetic patterns on your hard disk. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: please help me to migrate to french-mailing-list
On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 11:33 AM, Maurice Guerrier guelo...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello, I'm from french, I tried to post my messages in this maling-list in english but sometimes it's difficults to explain what I mean, Just subscribe to the debian-user-french mailing list the same way you subscribed to this one. You can (optionally) unsubscribe to this one after you start to get messages there. La plume de ma tante est sur la table. :) -- thanks for letting me change the magnetic patterns on your hard disk. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: grip/lenny doesn't extract audio CDs first tracks
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 1:36 AM, Nicolas BERCHER nicolas.berc...@teledetection.fr wrote: On another computer with the same grip version, it works good. Could that be related to a CD drive problem? Any idea? You might want to further troubleshoot the problem by using a lower-level tool such as cdparanoia and try to rip just track 1 from a couple of different CDs and see what output you get. Nicolas. -- thanks for letting me change the magnetic patterns on your hard disk. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: are these hacks?
On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 9:20 AM, Rick Pasotto r...@niof.net wrote: Occasionally on some websites I visit daily I'll get one of two incorrect results: 1) The home page for www.sogosearch.com 2) A page with nothing but the words It works! on it I get a picture of flowers no matter what word I type, and the word I typed underneath the pic of flowers. I don't think it is a hack so much as an inept site which seems to want to sell flowers. -- thanks for letting me change the magnetic patterns on your hard disk. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Why no Skype packages?
On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 5:23 AM, Dieder Vervoort lin...@telenet.be wrote: The problem is that a lot of windoze users are using Skype. So if you want to call them you need Skype ( if you don't have a Skype handset of course) Or you can try and convince them to use Ekiga. -- thanks for letting me change the magnetic patterns on your hard disk. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: my header field is missing
On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 6:48 AM, laura retyi lcre...@yahoo.com wrote: can you help me i keep getting this message that my header field is missing and i am making bad request We need more information to help. What was the command you were running, what is the expected output, and basically what were you trying to do? Were you compiling programs? -- thanks for letting me change the magnetic patterns on your hard disk. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: OT: Faulty laptop wanted
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 7:53 PM, adam jay laptop.dealer2...@googlemail.com wrote: hey buyer, i am Dare from Nigeria and i found u ads on the website looking for a computer well i work as a computer dealer and we got some computer or But first don't we all have to send thousands of dollars Western Union? ) giggles -- thanks for letting me change the magnetic patterns on your hard disk. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Why no Skype packages?
On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 3:24 PM, JoeHill joeh...@teksavvy.com wrote: Was just looking at all the 'how to install Skype' pages, and wondering why, as far as I can tell, there are no Debian packages. Is this a licensing issue? it's commercial.I have it installed in Ubuntu but don't do much (yet) with it. Maybe it is in nonfree or multimedia in debian? Is there an alternative to Skype that is not such a pain? Something that would enable me to make VoIP calls to Skype users? You might find ekiga to your liking. -- thanks for letting me change the magnetic patterns on your hard disk. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Help! Grub is broken
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:01 PM, 明覺 shi.min...@gmail.com wrote: It all happened suddenly. I was editing a file in gedit 3 minutes ago, and when I was saving it, it said readonly filesystem. then i restarted my I had a box that would frequently not be able to find its boot disks, got error 17s from time to time. It may be a transient error. First thing to try would be a cd like System Rescue CD, which would boot your computer and let you then boot from first hard disk, or repair the grub table. \-- thanks for letting me change the magnetic patterns on your hard disk. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: DVD authoring
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 10:03 AM, Frank McCormick fmccorm...@videotron.ca wrote: Running Squeezeand lookng for a comprehensive DVD authoring software. There doesn't seem to be much in the repositories , at least nothing with a nice GUI front-end. tovid (tovid.sourceforge.net) is nice, has a nice generator for menus and offers plenty of conversion options. It depends on other tools to get the job done, like transcode, imagemagick, ffmpeg, mplayer, python, etc. The SVN repository is a bit more up to date, I think. I am also looking for software to convert some mpeg4 files I have to avi's. Transcode or ffmpeg should be able to do that. -- thanks for letting me change the magnetic patterns on your hard disk. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: DVD authoring
2009/3/19 Nuno Magalhães nunomagalh...@eu.ipp.pt: Is there a .deb for that? Or any way i can install a .tgz that is easily managed by apt? Sure is, so you could apt-get install tovid, and you'd probably want the other related packages as well, todiscgui, and tovidgui. Nuno Magalhães LU#484677 -- thanks for letting me change the magnetic patterns on your hard disk. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: DVD authoring
2009/3/19 Nuno Magalhães nunomagalh...@eu.ipp.pt: That was my first try, but there's no such package in the debian repos (unstable amd64) and i do have www.debian-multimedia.org in my Hmm, I'm running Ubuntu :) so the package is in their multiverse repository. If it's not in a similar repository (multimedia, contrib, etc.) might try an RFP for it. sources.list... So my question is: how to wrap deb around tgz so i can apt-get remove the deb later? This is OT, sorry... I guess checkinstall would work. -- thanks for letting me change the magnetic patterns on your hard disk. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: man pages
anybody knows a good search engine without any adds you can install locally your site that indexes the content of your html pages ? Have you looked at swish (swish++ or swish-e, swish-e-dev) in the repositories? I know people who use that to index stuff, and it's pretty fast. how long does it take for google to index 76.000 pages ;) ? Not very long, I suspect :). -- thanks for letting me change the magnetic patterns on your hard disk. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: OT: file system versus databases
On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 5:28 PM, Mag Gam magaw...@gmail.com wrote: Paul: For instance, grep something country/2005/??/01/foo.txt It gives an instant result. Thats how we are using it and we love it. Are there a lot of files in each directory, or are there a lot of directories? One thing I can think off the top of my head when organizing/retrieving data this way (other than using an rDBMS) is that the directory read function doesn't scale very well, especially when doing something like ls over a large directory of mail. Have you looked at indexers for your data, to see how well that helps, such as swish++? TIA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Skype
On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 9:47 PM, H.S. hs.sa...@gmail.com wrote: I am seriously thinking of shifting from Skype to Ekiga. Does the latter support encryption? As far as I can tell, no. Also, I see that we have these version in Debian I'm running ekiga 3.0.1 in ubuntu Jaunty Intrepid. Perhaps there's a third party repository, or you could download the source and install it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Use of Swap Space
On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 1:27 PM, Nuno Magalhães nunomagalh...@eu.ipp.pt wrote: It seems as though free won't return the accurate size. I also have 4 gb of RAM (new Quadcore Intel) and 'free -g' reports '3' as well, I suspect this is underrounding to the extreme, and 'free -gb' returns a more realistic number: f...@newbox:~$ free -gb total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem:4018106368 3988586496 29519872 0 26746880 2479407104 -/+ buffers/cache: 1482432512 2535673856 Swap: 83897753605529600 8384245760 It isn't that RAM has a FAT - those things only are present on filesystems. It is more likely that free's interpretation doesn't include kernel memory. Also, 4gb may be 4*1024*1024 not 4*1000*1000, although that is more likely to be a concern with hard disk capacity. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: usb hard drive diagnosis
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 1:07 AM, Johannes Wiedersich johan...@physik.blm.tu-muenchen.de wrote: I'm a bit concerned about the health status of my usb based hard disk backup. One of my recent backups (rsync) prematurely exited with I/O errors in syslog. I fsck'ed the drive, fixing some 2000 errors like Ow. That seems like a lot. :( maxtor: * FILE SYSTEM WAS MODIFIED * maxtor: 5059092/61063168 files (0.7% non-contiguous), 97098262/122096000 blocks Tnat in and of itself doesn't indicate that there is a problem with the drive. I've frequently (well maybe hopefully not that often) had to run that kind of filesystem check - even in 'manual fsck' mode where the system only will partially boot up and not continue until fhe filesystem is correctly checked through all five passes. I've had a few drives in service for years (retired ibm deskstar 30gb etc.) they should still work even though I've had to fsck them a few times. Unfortunately, smartmontools won't work with usb and I hesitate to break the warranty seal to mount the disk directly. Hmm perhaps this is true, since I don't have any USB hard drive media, but I would think they fall into two distinct types: * flash (RAM) drives * enclosures that are basically a standard sata or ide drive with a power and usb cable added For #2 I'm not sure why you couldn't treat it more like a regular HD except for the USB part gets in the way (it's slower in terms of file I/O through a USB bus instead of a more standard ide or SATA connection. But why wouldn't things like smartmontools work through the USB? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
fox.com abc.com video players
Oops wanted this to go to the list -- Forwarded message -- From: David Fox dfox94...@gmail.com Date: Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 8:33 PM Subject: Re: fox.com abc.com video players To: Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 8:21 PM, Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote: You must not have Flash installed, since at fox I get Watch full episodes with our new player. Which, of course, only works on Windows and OSX. Some stuff is available on hulu.com, and that works just fine in Ubuntu, and presumably, debian as well. Or download the eps via bittorrent :). abc does have a feedback so you could say i'm running linux and please include a player for us or it's off to Bit torrent :). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Needed Quote
On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 5:32 AM, PM_Water Pump Supply pmwaterpu...@gmail.com wrote: Good Day, Please can you supply me any of these items as a special order? 1, Grundfos SQ Pumps 30SQ10-130 1 C P/N 11199 2, Shurflo Pumps ( Model 9325-043-101) 9300 Submersible Pump Linux runs on nearly everything now. :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: VNC problems
On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 9:27 AM, Tim Frink plfr...@yahoo.de wrote: Hi, I'd like to run a remote session on a machine using vnc. I had this working before in ubuntu hardy, but now vnc doesn't work, all I get is a blank screen as well. I am trying this using ubuntu intrepid on a new notebook trying to connect to my desktop. One thing I noticed early on was that the xxtartup file in vnc has permissions 664, but shouldn't it be executable, since it is a shell script? I tried it both ways (currently it is 775) but that doesn't seem to make a difference. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: VNC problems
On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 3:23 PM, Justin Piszcz jpis...@lucidpixels.com wrote: It should be executable AFAIK, what does the log say? $ cat ~/.vnc/xstartup #!/bin/sh xrdb $HOME/.Xresources xsetroot -solid grey xterm -geometry 80x24+10+10 -ls -title $VNCDESKTOP desktop exec startkde $ cat ~/.vnc/*log 27/12/08 15:13:17 Got connection from client 198.144.195.188 27/12/08 15:13:17 Using protocol version 3.8 27/12/08 15:13:17 Enabling TightVNC protocol extensions 27/12/08 15:13:21 Full-control authentication passed by 198.144.195.188 27/12/08 15:13:22 Pixel format for client 198.144.195.188: 27/12/08 15:13:22 32 bpp, depth 24, little endian 27/12/08 15:13:22 true colour: max r 255 g 255 b 255, shift r 16 g 8 b 0 27/12/08 15:13:22 no translation needed 27/12/08 15:13:22 Using tight encoding for client 198.144.195.188 27/12/08 15:13:22 Using compression level 1 for client 198.144.195.188 27/12/08 15:13:22 Using image quality level 6 for client 198.144.195.188 27/12/08 15:13:22 Enabling X-style cursor updates for client 198.144.195.188 27/12/08 15:13:22 Enabling cursor position updates for client 198.144.195.188 27/12/08 15:13:22 Enabling LastRect protocol extension for client 198.144.195.18 8 27/12/08 15:14:14 KbdAddEvent: unknown KeySym 0xffeb - allocating KeyCode 89 27/12/08 15:21:54 Client 198.144.195.188 gone 27/12/08 15:21:54 Statistics: 27/12/08 15:21:54 key events received 14, pointer events 48 27/12/08 15:21:54 framebuffer updates 3, rectangles 757, bytes 23760 27/12/08 15:21:54 LastRect markers 3, bytes 36 27/12/08 15:21:54 cursor shape updates 1, bytes 82 27/12/08 15:21:54 cursor position updates 1, bytes 12 27/12/08 15:21:54 tight rectangles 752, bytes 23630 27/12/08 15:21:54 raw bytes equivalent 6032676, compression ratio 255.297334 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Creative Zen mp3 Player
On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 7:56 AM, Raquel raq...@thericehouse.net wrote: I got my spouse a Creative Zen 8GB mp3 player for Christmas and I'm trying to get it loaded with her music before Christmas. I've charged the player using the USB port but Debian doesn't find the player. You might have a player that uses the mtp (Microsoft Transport Protocol) to transfer files rather than one that automatically mounts as a filesystem. A bit of googling turns up some links - install libmtp, and then you can use command line tools in that package to send files and/or sync your player. You can also get Amarok to recognize the player as well using that method, for a little bit better syncing experience. See for instance http://www.funzt.info/?p=121 Also here: (and my post from Oct 2007 is there: http://www.debianhelp.org/node/11395 I used to have an Iriver T30 (it stopped working) that used the same interface (using lenny). There is some indication that gnomad2 might work, but I don't have a Zen. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Creative Zen mp3 Player
On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 8:27 AM, Raquel raq...@thericehouse.net wrote: Hm, I can't find libmtp in Etch. $ aptitude show mtp-tools to see if it is there and then install it, that should do what you want. But I remember running it on Etch when Etch was still in testing, then I switched over to lenny in April 2007. There seems to be some discussion here[0] about amarok on etch that may be of interest. It mentions unavailability of libmtp-dev on Etch, though. I can't remember if I was able to sync my Iriver T30 with amarok during the time I was running Etch, but maybe in Lenny, so you might try when Lenny goes stable to use amarok to sync the player, otherwise you should be able to get by with the tools in the mtp-tools package. It's a bit clunky, but it works. [0] http://fixunix.com/debian/336613-amarok-etch.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Creative Zen mp3 Player
On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 3:52 PM, Raquel raq...@thericehouse.net wrote: I've returned the Zen to Amazon and ordered an iPod. Thanks to everyone who tried to help. It may sound silly, but after spending much of the day on this I'm just not up to the hassle. Sorry to hear about that. I hope the ipod works better. For what it is worth, and if you are looking for an inexpensive mp3 player that just works in Linux check out the M620 from Ivo Sound. I got it at Fry's here locally (Campbell CA) and for $40 (well that's $10 off) it's a very versatile mp3 player that plays AMV format video as well, and just mounts as a drive under Linux so I can just use drag drop to transfer files over. It's also 4GB. For $40, it's not a bad deal, compared to what just 1gb mp3 players were a scant few years ago. A few drawbacks - the screen is kind of smallish for video, but the files are still watchable on the screen, and amv video can be transcoded from avi's with ffmpeg - i've done it a few times. I'm not sure if the player is at fault, but folders (music albums) when transferred over to the device, the songs are usually out of order. Sometimes that's not a big deal, and other times it is (like trying to listen to the Who's Tommy in shuffle play mode - that's just not right! :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Compilation of Ardour3 fails: cannot find libsndfile
On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 1:11 AM, Tommy Bongaerts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 01:21:11AM +0100, Tommy Bongaerts wrote: Mhh, I prolly need to tell the system to look for header files under /opt... Let's see if that works. If I only knew how it should be done... Check with ./configure -help. There might be an includefile dir option that you can add to the compile / configuration line like ./configure --with-includes=/opt or some such. It's been a while since I had to tweak like this, though. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FROM LAST APRIL, I almost got it right! Was: Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]
On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 8:29 AM, Nigel Henry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't know, but Jumping Jackflash has got a nice ring to it. A credit to the Stones, and every time you boot, the login screen shows an animated version of Mick Jagger, and a few words from the tune. I wish that Henrietta Hippo would have been the code name for Hardy Heron. http://www.hollywoodinvestigator.com/newzoorevue.htm Nigel. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Looking for free email service with disposable email addresses
On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 2:16 AM, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have free email account at yahoo.com.au. It has feature that I am used to, namely disposable email addresses. But unfortunately I have troubles with it too. More often than I would like it lost (does Try gmail. Some will object to it, but it seems to offer what you need, and it's free, and better IMHO than is yahoo or hotmail. By default, original emails to the list are not echoed. This may be list wide or is a google policy to prevent duplicate mails. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to send tunes to MP3 player?
On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 1:29 PM, Dennis Wicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings; Is there a program on Debian/lenny that will send/write tunes onto an MP3 player? It is one of those little ones that you plug into a USB port. On Depends. If your mp3 player can just show up as a device in your browser (that is if you can mount the device as like a hard drive) then you just use common cmmands to copy the mp3s over, or drag and drop them from panels using your favorite file browser. If the device cannot be mounted, then you probably can use a package called mtp-tools in debian. Just install it, and it'll give you some utilities to use to transfer files over that interface. It's similar to ptp protocol or whatever cameras use that don't offer mounting into the file system. Dennis -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Switching from Etch to Lenny - help me assess the risk.
On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 12:56 PM, Bob Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Testing breaks less often than Unstable. But when it breaks, it takes a long time for things to get rectified. Sometimes this could be days and it could be months at times. I did have some issues with the nvidia driver, it got broken, and I reverted to the nv driver for a while. That took a while to fix. Eventually I decided that I had waited too long for new drivers to show up in testing, so I decided to enable the unstable repository, and installed X and nvidia from that. A few packages from unstable in an otherwise testing level distribution is an option and in this case it worked. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Switching from Etch to Lenny - help me assess the risk.
On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 12:35 PM, lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When you run testing (and keep it updated), you don't need to worry about making the leap from one stable release to the next. That was I ran etch when it was still testing, then kept it at testing for sometime until I got a new box, and put Ubuntu on that. I also have a sidux set up to run in a Virtual box. I don't recall too many problems with etch, even when it was testing, except that the xfree86 to xorg conversion was a bit hairy. the reason for me to run testing on mailservers at work, rather than stable. I also ran my own mail server (postfix) on etch and lenny for some time. The only problem I had with testing was when they switched from XFree to Xorg a few years ago and the fonts were messed up after an I was helping to update a friends (old) p3 box that ran an old version of etch, needed a bunch of security updates and kde and some other stuff installed last night. I got all the updates installed except for two things - open office (not sure he'll be using it, he wanted squid set up primarily) and there were some errors about not being able to access or write some font directories. Not sure how significant they are, and I don't have the machine in front of me or easy access to it. But as I recall, there wasn't too big of a headache going from etch (stable) to lenny (testing) after April 2007 when Etch became stable. But I waited a bit before switching to lenny, and think it is a good idea while all the initial stuff gets to quiet down a bit following an initial plunge into a new testing release. GH -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: t-mobile android htc google phone not mounting
On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 5:24 PM, Mitchell Laks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, A friend dropped by and plugged his new Google Android HTC phone into a usb slot on my sid box (with a 2.6.26 kernel) and when we typed dmesg we saw a /dev/sdb however when I typed fdisk -l Have you tried directly mounting /dev/sdb? I don't have or use an Android phone, but I have a device here (ivo sound m620 mp3 player) that mounts that way, whole disk, and doesn't have any partitions on the device. It simply mounts as /dev/sdg or what have you. I thought it odd, and it threw me a bit, but it works - and it was a steal at fry's (it's $39.99 for a 4 gig mp3 player that does amv video too - very small screen, though) so I am not worried. Mitchell -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cannot run 64-bit OS in virtualbox-ose
On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 4:41 PM, Slim Joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Using virtualbox-ose 1.6.6-dfsg-2, I cannot run any x86_64 Linux distribution (e.g. Fedora 9). The guest OS complains You'll likely need the full product and version 2.0 in order to do 64bit guest additions. I ran into the same problem as you. You'll also need certain processor hardware support (amd-v) in order to do 64 bit guests on a 64 bit machine, and that support needs to be turned on in vbox to get it to work. I'm running a sidux guest (and tested several others, both 32 and 64) on a ubuntu hardy host with little difficulties. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: About apt-file
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 3:15 AM, Stephen Liu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have wajig installed but don't know how to use it making search. 'man wajig' is very simple not much info provided. I get: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ wajig whichpkg mysqladmin JIG Warning: fping was not found. Consider installing the package fping. File Path Package ===-= INSTALLED /usr/share/mysql/mysql-test/r/mysqladmin.result mysql-server-5.0 /usr/share/man/man1/mysqladmin.1.gz mysql-client-5.0 /usr/bin/mysqladmin mysql-client-5.0 /usr/share/mysql/mysql-test/t/mysqladmin.test mysql-server-5.0 - That tells me the mysqladmin binary is installed by the package mysql-client-5.0. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Konqueror, mplayer and embedded mp3
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 6:42 AM, Augustin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Settings Configure Konqueror File Associations audio x-mp3 Application Preference Order has Mplayer Movie Player listed first. I think you should have a General tab that lists some possible choices for audio/mpeg as well. If your favorite player is not listed there, you can click on the Add tab, put in the path/filename, and then click OK, then click apply to save and update the associations. If the player you want to use by default isn't in the first position, you can use move up to move the preference up to the top, tnen click on Apply. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Keeping more up to date than Lenny, safely?
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 9:40 AM, Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. Im running Lenny on two computers, and have been very happy with it. Nothings ever really been broken, so i dont think that a stable version is necessary for what i need. Well, you might take a look at sidux, then. It's sid, but repackaged. I have it running in a virtualbox guest - my main OS these days is Ubuntu Hardy (used to be on lenny, but I switched in may when I went to a 64 bit platform.) I dont really want to go unstable--the name alone scares me--but at the same time i read the release notes for the new Ubuntu beta, and its really nice. I *want* Gnome 2.24 (the auto XRandR thing is especially nice, ive always wanted multi-head but am It might be OK - other than that bad e1000 bug, but that doesn't bother me, as I have no e1000 hardware :). You might take a look at intrepid - the beta is out. I also have that booting, but not yet installed, in a virtual box. My plans are to wait until the end of October and then do dist-upgrade (or do-release-upgrade, or whatever the upgrade procedure is on Ubuntu). skeered to mess with my xorg.conf). I _want_ the new version of Network Manager. Etcetera. I didn't bother with that when I upgraded. I copied the /etc/network/interfaces and xorg.conf files from my working debian lenny setup (well, kind of working - I had /var on a separate small hard drive and my new motherboard only could hold 2 ide devices, and I had three, so something had to get yanked). Is there any way to get this, but without the risk of the system breaking every other day? I dont want my life to be about managing the system, I haven't actually ran sid, but I don't think there is any reason it should break every day, but the upgrades come by pretty fast. At least there is a buffer in lenny so that much gets triaged before it can enter into testing from unstable (or is lenny actually stable now?). Some packages sit waiting for things to get done from time to time. I've run debian testing since about Nov 2006 - before it was even Etch. Jen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VLC x DVD x USB connected.
On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 8:05 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can VLC play a a movie from a DVD drive connected by USB 2? Are any specific settings or permissions required. There shouldn't be. As long as the DVD can be mounted everything should work fine. There aren't - or at leest shouldn't be any issues in mounting a dvd over a usb interface compared to doing so over an ide or scsi type interface - at least in theory. Not having such a device (usb dvd that is) my only caveat is that you are playing from (comparatively) slower media (dvd) and you are bringing that data through a comparatively slower interface, namely usb2.0. In mplayer, there is a setting for adding a cache amount, which is useful for playing files from slow(er) media. I think there is a similar setting in VLC. You may need to increase that value - 256 or 512 seems to be a safe bet - I use those mostly when playing video over the net (like from a streaming video site). Look for the caching checkbox in (for instance) File; Open dialog box. You can check it and see if adding a value helps. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Which package for libawt.so
On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 7:18 PM, Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ apt-file search libawt.so sun-java5-bin: /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun-1.5.0.12/jre/lib/i386/libawt.so sun-java6-bin: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.02/jre/lib/i386/libawt.so That's the canonical way to search. I found 'wajig' to give me much the same output, and I don't have to mess around updating an apt-file database. 'wajig whichpkg libawt.so' JIG Warning: fping was not found. Consider installing the package fping. File Path Package ===-= INSTALLED /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/lib/amd64/libawt.so openjdk-6-jre-headless /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.06/jre/lib/amd64/libawt.sosun-java6-bin - AVAILABLE - The neat thing about apt-file or wajig used this way is you don't have to have the file on your hard drive in order to find the right package. It's quite useful in building packages, you search for the missing header files until you run out of compiler complaints :). A -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Way OT: OpenDNS
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 2:04 PM, Alex Samad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (stats) Here's what I get - just for reference. I'm in San Jose, CA, rather close to google, actually. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/storage$ mtr -c30 --report -n www.google.com HOST: newbox Loss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst StDev 1. 64.71.11.10.0%300.6 1.6 0.6 23.9 4.3 2. 67.207.124.1250.0%300.7 2.2 0.7 14.7 3.6 3. 64.71.4.173 0.0%301.0 1.6 0.8 9.2 1.8 4. 64.79.113.141 0.0%301.8 2.4 1.4 7.2 1.4 5. 67.207.107.1450.0%302.5 7.0 1.3 71.2 16.3 6. 207.88.187.25 0.0%303.3 2.8 1.3 12.7 2.1 7. 207.88.187.50 0.0%301.7 4.8 1.4 38.9 7.6 8. 216.239.46.1940.0%303.5 4.0 2.3 13.4 2.9 9. 209.85.251.94 0.0%307.4 10.2 2.6 32.0 6.1 10. 74.125.19.99 0.0%303.3 4.4 2.2 24.4 4.4 I'm using Wiline (up to 15 mbps direct internet connection). I see some out of band stuff (hop 6 in particular) but I'm running a low-latency bittorrent at the moment too. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian-user] Re: AMD vs Intel and the Debian kernel
On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 10:45 PM, Daniel Burrows [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But that's approximately 2**34 gigabytes, and the lowest price-per-gigabyte that I can find for RAM chips is about $20. So to max out a 64-bit memory space, you would need to spend around $343,597,383,680 And they said 640K was good enough for anyone. :) But the AMD64 doesn't have 64 address lines, so that's a moot point. I think the address imits on it are somewhere around 2**40. Still, that's a lot of RAM. Daniel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: interface for tar
On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 5:40 PM, Mag Gam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At my university we run fluid dynamic simulations. These simulations create many small files (30,000) per hour. Their size is very small (20k to 200k). Instead of having this on the filesystem since it take My approach: make a sufficiently-sized file using dd if=/dev/zero of=/bigfile bs=1m count=1000 size so that you have enough room, and room for growth, of course Make a filesystem inside of that file (reiserfs might be a good choice since it is well-designed to handle lots of smallish files, although small by that definition may be much smaller than 200k) Mount that file in loopback mode prior to running your simulations, and (after moving the files over to the new filesystem) direct all filesystem traffic to use that 'filesystem' which may entail only something simple as cd'ing into the 'filesystem' and starting work. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: APT recommendations/suggestions not obvious
On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 5:35 PM, Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TTBOMK, neither apt/aptitude/synaptics stores explicit this is why package A is recommended data. If it did, I'd immediately convert to that app. In times like these, then aptitude why or whynot may be useful. I've only used it a few times, and if I choose a package at random, I might get a terse line like bash suggests bash-doc if I do 'aptitude why bash-doc' or nothing at all other than the package is manually installed for something like gwenview-kde4. Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing Deluge
On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 2:10 AM, Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why isn't it in the Ubuntu repository? It is, deluge-torrent and deluge-torrent-common. I just checked. Ron Johnson, Jr. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 64 bit Dual-Core Moron
On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 9:54 AM, Account for Debian group mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to put the computer as a whole under a stress test, performance test. I can look at the /etc/dmesg and see that the CPS's are up and Possibly mprime's torture test? That's at mersenne.org. I've used it to check a variety of PC health issues. It'll run for as long as you want. If you get errors, there could be hardware issues with your RAM, cpu, bus, power supply and so forth. You can also benchmark and compare your speed with other like machines. Or maybe a few days of BOINC/setiathome (that's 64 bit, and you can make it use both cores.) Those, of course, are cpu tests and don't really test out all the things in the machine, such as network, disk reads/writes etc. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 64 bit Dual-Core Moron
On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 10:27 AM, David Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Those, of course, are cpu tests and don't really test out all the things in the machine, such as network, disk reads/writes etc. Another possibility is to run a script that continously compiles a recent linux kernel, using the -j parameter, upped sufficiently to ensure that all the memory in the system is exercised. I personally know an admin that has done that. Here's one writeup, but references rather old hardware. It might be a starting point. http://pygmy.utoh.org/stress.txt He's only doing one compile job repeatedly through a shell loop, and obviously his test subjects wouldn't fare well on a make -j # because there's not enough system ram to get the job done. I'm trying to find the writeup, but if you ask nicely this gentleman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) about how to go about this, he might be able to help. Also see the linuxmafia knowledge base www.linuxmafia.com/kb although I can't quite see the writeup he shared sometime ago about it - but it basically involved running something like make -j 256 on the linux kernel, in a shell loop, for something like 24 hours. (And that system was *heavily* loaded !!) ;) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
64 bit Dual-Core Moron
Sorry, I meant to go to the list. -- Forwarded message -- From: David Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 12:34 PM Subject: Re: 64 bit Dual-Core Moron To: Account for Debian group mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 11:58 AM, Account for Debian group mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I looks like both CPUs are doing their thing on the kernel compile. Here is a quick look at the top info: Are you doing a plain make or make -j 2 or something else? The thing is, if you just do a 'make' then one core is mostly going to be used by the compiler, and the other core might be used for all the other processes. I just tried it myself. I was looking at top output and there were plenty of times where one or the other of the cpus were essentially idle. Since (I assume) you have a dual core cpu, then each of those cpus may be able to hyperthread, so you might do a make -j 4. Here's what I see (just a snapshot of top). I have other cpu-intensive things running, like setiathome. Tasks: 170 total, 8 running, 161 sleeping, 0 stopped, 1 zombie Cpu0 : 89.4%us, 8.9%sy, 1.7%ni, 0.0%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.0%si, 0.0%st Cpu1 : 87.3%us, 11.3%sy, 0.0%ni, 0.3%id, 0.0%wa, 0.7%hi, 0.3%si, 0.0%st Mem: 1932840k total, 1468592k used, 464248k free,12336k buffers Swap: 1951888k total,40244k used, 1911644k free, 740692k cached I see you have twice the RAM as I do. If you just do a make (or make -j 4) your compiler processes are only using up a small portion of the RAM. How do you go about making sure all that ram is being exercised? That was my point. (Oh, and the system crashed my X session when I did a make -j 128 on kernel 2.6.25.9 - chosen roughly at random.) I noticed while I was compiling with plain 'make' that the memory was hardly used, most of it was in free (over a gigabyte, with no X server running) and it slowly drew memory from free and put it into buffers, so that the cc1 process could be reloaded from there rather than from disk, I guess. But it (cc1) never really ever used up more than 64 megs (and that's probably a generous upper limit for kernel compiles) and presumably it was working on that same 64 meg area, although with VM there's no way to tell. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Phoenix-awardbios Setup AMD64 Dual Core
On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 3:00 PM, Account for Debian group mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As stated above I enabled this but does anyone know if this is the correct setting? for a AMD64 Dual Core machine running kernel-image vmlinuz-2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-amd64 and 4 Gigs of ram. I don't see how it would hurt things if it were left enabled. It shouldn't affect anything and if you have it enabled you can use virtualization which your cpu supports (real hardware virtualization) and can explore things like xen, vmware, virtualbox and stuff like that. I'm thinking of trying it too now that I have a machine that's powerful enough to do it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: error messages from apt-get
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 4:53 PM, Vwaju [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Couldn't I add http://packages.debian.org/sarge to /etc/apt/ sources.list and then say: Not a good idea, because then you'd be mixing distributions, and sarge is Pretty Old Now. I haven't played with xlispstat in several years. I couldn't tell you why it's not available in etch. It's not available in ubuntu either, and I carry all repositories (or at least have access to them). Funny. Looking at the wikipedia article, one of the referrer pages goes 404 on me, which isn't proof of anything (sample size of one, remember) :) but it may be that the project is dormant. But then again, the link in google (stat.umn.edu) also gives me a 404. You could however, add the sarge *source* repositories* and then build an xlispstat package from sources on etch. But then again, you might want to look at R. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: error messages from apt-get
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 7:58 PM, David Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But then again, you might want to look at R. OK, it seems that xlispstat has not been updated since 2003. (Cut pasted from http://lib.stat.cmu.edu/xlispstat/ if you browse to the Src mirror and then go to current.) Release 3.52.19 of xlispstat is now available. This is a source-only release. Since the Macintosh and Windows versions are not affected by these changes, their binary releases remains at 3.52.16 and 3.52.17, respectively. Due to the some of the additions to the Win32 version, this verison will no longer work under Win32s. The Win16 version remains available for now. Summary of changes since 3.52.19: 2003-09-20 Luke Tierney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Motherboard for desktops with preinstalled Debian
On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 8:05 AM, Shachar Or [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am liking the AMD 780G chipset but I can't find anywhere about it's level of compatibility with etch. Does anyone know anything? Phoronix use the latest If a motherboard is completely compatible with ubuntu, one would think there would be n problems running debian etch on it. I like ASUS too. My main (7 year old) asus box was based around an A7V-133 Athlon thunderbird cpu (way too slow now) but it was rock solid for years, running etch (actually etch was testing at that time), later lenny, until about 2 months ago when I upgraded. I wanted to upgrade on a budget, so I ended up getting a combo cpu/motherboard (AMD 64-bit dual core cpu) about 2 months ago, and I chose an ECS 6100-pn-m motherboard, which is fairly cheap. It's a microatx form factor, support for PCI add on cards is minimal, but has ethernet (only 100/10, though) nvidia 6100 graphics on chip, nvidia almost everything else, actually. There's only one IDE slot (2 devices) but 4 or so SATA ports, which are all 3.0gbps. Lots of USB headers too. I've been running it 2 months or so now with 64 bit ubuntu hardy. URL is close to what i have, may be the exact model here: http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWebSite/Products/ProductsDetail.aspx?DetailID=685CategoryID=1DetailName=FeatureMenuID=46LanID=9 (If the URL got cut off, I'm sure you can find it at ecs.com.tw.) I'm still looking at AM2 because I don't like intel but I'm open to compelling arguments. This one is AM2/AM2+. Supports Phenom cpu's but I didn't have that much money to spend. :) Shachar Or | שחר אור
Re: Cannot find /dev/parport0
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 10:04 AM, Account for Debian group mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the /etc/printcap file I have: lp|Our Printer:\ :lp=/dev/parport0:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp:\ I don't think the printer was ever actually called parport0 in dev. Was it that way in Sarge? I never ran sarge. I haven't been using parallel ports for anything for a while, but try using /dev/lp0 instead. That should be the right device for parallel printers. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Incredible world-wide transportation network
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 11:38 AM, Nate Duehr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh wow, that name brings back some memories... Never had one of those. My first was a clone XT at Fry's electronics - no hard drive at first, just 2 floppies (both 360K) and hercules monochrome card and 12 amber monitor. 640K of ram though, on a full length board - one of those Everex sixpack things :). My brother sent me a microfiche scan at the library of an old newspaper (vintage 1986) which featured Fry's ads from that time period. Wow. He told me that his 750 gig drive would have cost some tens of millions of dollars if it had been manufactured back then. Actually he'd have a few thousand 20 meg MFM drives stacked from here to the nearest 7-11 :). If you get a chance, go over to archive.org and get some of the old Computer Currents (a locally, KCSM-TV produced show) around that time. I saw this one dated around 1987 some time ago that featured the first 386 production models. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: i386 or amd64?
On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 8:05 AM, Hugo Vanwoerkom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am about to buy the mobo that Doug Tutty has: Asus M2N-SLI Deluxe, albeit with a more moderate AM2 processor: AMD Athlon X2 4050e 2.1GHz 45W 65nm Dual-Core. You should be able to keep the current installation and run everything 32-bit, but as a recent convert to amd64 (here, an ecs 6100-pm-m motherboard, I elected to switch to ubuntu :) amd64. Partly due to a disk provisioning problem and a little lack of foresight, I suppose - my oldest and most smallest disk on lenny was an old 1.6 gig maxtor, and it held /var, and there simply wasn't enough room (or ide headers) to put all 3 ide drives in, plus 2 new sata devices. For the stuff that I do, amd64 works better. Most everything is 64 bit, but of course there are those things that are only available in 32-bit user space. Fortunately, I've found that they all run fine with the intel32 lib packages installed, and there's little reason if any to set up a chroot. Not that I've found, anyway. And, I paid for the extra bits, so why not use them? Question I have is what do I run on it, I would prefer restoring a current i386 system on it and then go on from there. You could - what prevents you from booting off your existing media? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sudo password visible through ssh command line
On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 3:11 PM, Alex Samad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: other have answered was to get around this. How about ssh straight to root@ the box (turn sshd to allow root login by sign only and set a I don't think this is such a good idea, because direct outside root logins should be disabled anyway. Think of it like this - if the user knows he can get root without having to know the password of an unprivileged user, it's that much easier for him to get in. Rather, disallow those logins and make outside users use sudo, and make even that practice suspect (of course there are reasons to let outsiders - in the sense they don't have physical access to the system in to do root things). Of course, passphrases are the thing to setup - especially on direct root logins as it makes the chance of J. Random Hacker (think of all the script kiddies from overseas banging into your box at night) getting through and doing potential harmful things. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cpuinfo in HP DL580 G4
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 11:09 PM, Ding Honghui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 hi, here is the cpuinfo for HP DL580 G4 with kernel 2.6.18-6-686. HT is not disabled. This server have 4 slots for cpu and every slot can contain a dual core cpu. From your cpuinfo file it looks like you have 8 cpus (4 and all are dual core) so I don't see where the problem lies. Also all of those cpus support long mode so you could switch to a 64 bit platform and solve your other problem with the system's memory not all being seen. There's also an overhead that only goes away when you do 64bit, when it tries to address memory over 4 gigs. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Sidux] AMD Sempron 64 bit kernel (Gateway laptop)?
On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 3:57 PM, s. keeling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: lahf_lm?!? Supports LAHF in 64 bit mode, which is the closest I could find on google. If you have that, I don't see why you wouldn't have lm as they should go together, AFAIK. With semprons you have to be careful if they'll support 64 bit mode. Some will, some won't. Most later ones will as it was originally designed to be a budget athlon. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: audacious: Illegal instruction
On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 11:34 AM, Hugo Vanwoerkom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Florian. But funny is that I can run it OK in another Sid partition on this box that runs a recompiled 2.6.24 Debian i386 kernel. This Sid partition runs a home rolled 2.6.25.9 and has the problem... I don't see how it could be the kernel exposing this issue. You could run audacious inside gdb and find out where it hits the illegal instruction - the few times I've encountered this problem, it's been because the binary was compiled with features the processor doesn't support - SSE2 for instance. Some people assume that everyone in i386-land have processors that can handle that stuff, and mine couldn't and I got bit by the last nvidia driver update in lenny. Now that I have an amd64, I don't have to worry about this, but that's beside the point. :) For the last seven years though, I had a pre-Palomino vintage AMD Athlon Thunderbird processor. No SSE2 on that thing. When you do a gdb, then run the program as usual and you'll see the offending instruction by doing a disassemble $pc-32 $pc+32 which allows you to see the context. It'll probably be a movaps or some other instruction your cpu can't do. Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cd burning not going well
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 11:35 AM, tyler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A typical result is burning the CD with KB3, which appears to work, but then complains that the disk image does not match the downloaded ISO Since you've already verified the ISOs with md5sum, then something may be awry with either K3B or the tools that it uses to do the job. I almost never had verification issues such as you describe with lenny on even dodgy hardware (i.e., my old 32-bit box and a nec dvd-rw, using K3B on 32-bit lenny. Considering that the drive had problems reading DVDs, it seems that the CD part at least worked well enough to get verifiable images burned to CD. Now that I have a new 64-bit box, I'm running Hardy Heron 8.04 and I get the same symptoms you describe - on many images, k3b says that the verification step failed. But this is on new media, new hardware - including a brand new Pioneer SATA dvd-rw drive. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: MP3 Player for Ogg?
On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 8:58 AM, Thomas H. George [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is the iRiver T30 the best choice? It looks pretty clunky though perhaps not as bad as my old cassette player. It's decidedly better than an old cassette player. :) I have one of these players - acquired it about 2 years ago at Sears 1/2 price. It does work with linux. You probably want the package mtp-tools as the player uses the MPT transport library. Inside that package are command line tools to do things like send files to the player and so forth, and you can use Amarok once it is setup, it'll use those commands as a backend. It will play oggs out of the box. No special problems with this player except after 2 years of use the solenoids get dirty which causes odd skips, loops cycling through the browser. I can lock the player so that it doesn't do that, though. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Laptop for College Bound Student?
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 10:24 AM, Hugo Vanwoerkom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But does the modem work? No, but the paper tape punch does. :) Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Laptop for College Bound Student?
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 5:58 AM, Thomas H. George [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Money is tight, of course. If I were the student and there is a modest-priced laptop with Debian and OpenOffice I'd take it in a flash. I'm www.tuxtops.com is a place to start, and maybe this place http://www.linuxcertified.com/linux_laptops.html There's a dual core model starting at $799 special ends 6/15/08. For a college student, I'd think that was good enough, but check with the campus IT people too. And these things come preinstalled with Ubuntu. Tom -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RealPlayer Guidance Needed
OOPS forgot to send this to the list. -- Forwarded message -- From: David Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 9:43 AM Subject: Re: RealPlayer Guidance Needed To: Thomas H. George [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 7:04 AM, Thomas H. George [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When an old cpu died I upgraded to a new motherboard and an AMD Athlon 64 Processor 3800+. I am running the current version of Lenny with a So are you running amd64 lenny, or a 32 bit lenny with a 64-bit kernel? I too did a 32-64 bit upgrade (I replaced my 7 year old tired athlon 1000 cpu and motherboard with an ECS motherboard and 5200 dual core amd64 cpu) recently. But I'm on (for right now) ubuntu hardy heron 8.04. Things might be a little different. First of all, do other web videos work in your browser (youtube for instance)? Since realplayer is strictly 32-bit, are there ways to listen to your content with mplayer, gxine, or other tools? I have yet to install realplayer on this new rig. Look for a package called ia32-libs ia32libs-gtk. The package might be named differently in Debian, as well as the codecs (w32codecs, but I have w64codecs installed here. I can play the NY Times videos OK as well as CNN videos, radio stations (haven't tested extensively, most seem to work). See if you can coax them to play the content in a different way. Oftentimes all you need is a package that supplies the cook library, which w64codecs supplies, so I haven't yet found a needed reason to have realplayer installed here. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Anyone use Linux to author DVDs?
On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 2:05 PM, Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'm using DVD Styler (from debian-multimedia.org) because it's simple, and I know nothing about authoring. The disks I *have* made work great from vlc, but not stand-alone players. I tried dvdstyler and it worked but it's been a long time since I used it. What I use now is 'tovid' from tovid.sourceforge.net. todiscgui can make some snazzy-looking menus, btw. I've used it for many dvd authoring sessions. Anyone have thoughts about what I'm doing wrong? - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Kittens give Morbo gas. In lighter news, the city of New New York is doomed. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFISvghS9HxQb37XmcRAtX+AJ9kxbT8Am5kAB/ZEwqtCUL5D7e5gACcCQN5 MfWjcWFxMphngObWMoZ41l4= =A4Hx -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The 'Good old days (WAS:Re: Aptitude Version: 0.4.11.2-1 eat my memory after update...)
On 6/5/08, Marc Shapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It almost makes me yearn for the days of my first computer... a TRS-80 Model III that came with 16KB RAM and 16KB ROM which I upgraded to the max of 48KB RAM and 16KB ROM. Then I remember that that machine, at twice the Mine was (if you don't count the TI-59 :) a TRS80 Model 1 w/16K, stringy floppy tape. I knew this hardware guy who helped later on stuff in a 64k RAM and we could burn our own custom ROMs, and added a few extra touches, like a speedup switch so it could run twice as fast. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 64bit virtual guest
On 6/4/08, Alex Samad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My next thought, before going back to vmware, was qemu, does it handle 64b guests and can I start a vm headless, that was the other problem i had with virtualbox I tried it with the 64-bit sabayon dvd I have here and it tells me it only thinks I have an i686 CPU (I have amd64) so I suspect not. The manpage only indicates (via -M ?) that it supports PC and isa only PC. I suspect it's 32-bit only. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Wildly OT: Re: apt-get joke
On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 5:59 PM, Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 8-- # 8-- EMFBI, but that won't compile in Fortran. Here's a quick and dirty patch C :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
