Re: eliminating implicit rules in makefiles
On 6/27/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How can I disab;e *all* the default rules in my Makefiles? GNU 'make' has a '-r' flag that does this. It seems to work, in my limited testing. -- David 'dpk' Kirchner -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: arp syntax help
On 5/8/06, S t i n g r a y [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you please share the syntax for manually adding ip MAC address permenantly i am doing arp -s 10.0.0.1 22:33:55:gf:34:22 permenent permanent is implied, so you can drop that argument. also how to delete one MAC entry arp -d 10.0.1.17 but its not deleting the whole entry Is the host still online, and on the network? It's possible it's re-arping after you delete it. You can confirm this by running tcpdump -ln arp after you delete the arp entry. -- David 'dpk' Kirchner
Re: RAID Sizes (was Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?)
On 4/14/06, Andrei Popescu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2006-04-12 at 12:32 -0400, Matthias Julius wrote: Yes, there is. As example here is part of the output of mdadm: Array Size : 468872448 (447.15 GiB 480.13 GB) Device Size : 156290816 (149.05 GiB 160.04 GB) ^^^^^ Note there is GiB (gibibyte) which is 1024 MiB (mebibyte) and there is GB (gigabyte) which is 1000 MB (megabyte). It was just right. This is more in detail: 156290816(kiB) * 1024 = 160041795584 bytes 160041795584/1000/1000/1000 ~= 160.04 GB or 160041795584/1024/1024/1024 ~= 149.05 GiB This is an example of how just slightly better command output or logging could save many man-hours of confusion or explanation. Since the mdadm program displays the values in two human readable forms (GB and GiB), it could also print the first number as a raw count of bytes (with the suffix bytes) to make the size of the array entirely clear and precise to the user.
Re: ATTN: Barbara Oncay
On 4/14/06, Steve Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew Sackville-West wrote: Huh, look at that. It doesn't show up in any of the attachments either. Just not there. Good eye Gene. Not true, here's the unsub instructions from the message I am replying to: To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's there. In gmail, it is only available while viewing the original source (IE raw email with all headers). This may be a failing of gmail. I'm not sure. What does the email specification demand when someone sends a multipart/* message, and then includes text outside of the multipart parts? Maybe the Debian list software should detect that and encapsulate the unsubscribe details in an attachment. For all I know that could break the signature's validity.
Re: Debian security.
On 4/3/06, Surachai Locharoen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any body guarantee debian security. I want to install debian as my server instead of redhat as3 server which just attack by Phishing. Kan As stated already, this sort of problem usually comes about because of some insecure PHP or CGI script or script suite rather than through the underlying OS's security, so Debian isn't going to offer you more security than Redhat in that sense. The best defense against this sort of attack is to a) understand everything you install, how it works, how to spot when it's not working, how to interpret the logs it generates, etc, and/or b) hire someone trustworthy who is skilled to understand it for you (which can include using hosted services). It's not enough to install a script and leave it be forever. You have to upgrade them immediately after a new version comes out, or at least shut off the old version while you review your options. It's a real pain having to maintain a busy server online, which is why b) can be a great option.
Re: lists.debian.org vs google groups
On 4/3/06, Pascal Hakim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some people leak headers into the body of their email. gmail does by default, apparently. I do wonder if there really is a point to masking out the email addresses in the archive. If I were a spammer, one of the first things I'd do is sign up to receive mail from a few thousand heavily trafficked mailing lists (using email-usenet/web gateways to determine traffic levels), and then just add each user that I see to my lists. I would probably sign up for the digests, to make it basically a once-a-day (or whatever the frequency) thing. Aside from modifying the email addresses in the posts re-mailed to each subscriber, I can't see a sure way this could be detected. Plus, I doubt there's only one debian-users archive out there. It'd be hard, if not impossible, to convince them all to change their ways.
Re: CC Solutions Spamming Debian-User List
On 3/23/06, C.C.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We never signed up for any debian mailing lists. Is there any way to determine what email addresses from our domain are on that list? It should be in the headers of this message, when you receive it. Look for Received for lines until you find one for your domain.
Re: Someone get rid of this stupid thing.
On 3/18/06, Gene Heskett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 3. There is no way short of a customized subject message sent individually to every name on the mailing list, one at a time, FROM a mailng list user, waiting each time to see if it generates this response. This seems like the most reasonable solution. As long as the sender is not already on UOL's allow list, it should work well. You wouldn't have to wait too long -- the autoresponse comes in quickly, and you can keep sending to the other users while you wait. But, yeah, it is something the list managers would have to do.
Re: Re: Progress meter on copying
On 3/15/06, Ted Gilchrist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought I could capture the progress status of scp to a file: % scp -r html [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 1mylog 21 but the result is an empty file. Can someone tell me how to do this? scp is automatically detecting that the standard output is not a tty, so it's not sending the progress bat. You can capture it in other ways though -- 'screen' has a 'screenlog' option (^AH) and 'script' will log everything output by the specified program to a specified file.
Re: Newcomers to Debian downloading/ordering full CD-set
On 3/14/06, Andrei Popescu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A quick peak at debian-cd shows that there are discussions about having a Desktop install with as few CDs as possible. This is the development part. The site developers should present this accordingly. Something like: For a Desktop install you need at least CD1 and 3. Other suggestions? Andrei I think it'd probably be best to have any CDs necessary for an install be called install-N.iso, while the rest could be extra-N.iso.
Re: Debian not recognizing 1 of my 2 CPUs and sees only 16k cache =(
On 3/8/06, Yu,Glen [Ontario] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone, Thanks for you replies, I've installed the smp kernel (kernel-image-2.4.27-2-686-smp) but now cat /proc/cpuinfo lists 4 cpus! However my supervisor has informed me that they should be single-core, rather than dual-core Xeons, so I don't how Debian 3.1 is registering 4 cpus! I there a different smp kernel I should be installing instead? Thanks, Glen Yu | [EMAIL PROTECTED] You probably have HyperThreading enabled in your BIOS. You should be able to disable it there, and then see 2 CPUs. The benefits of HyperThreading appear minimal, and it actually has a negative impact for a lot of people, so it's probably better turned off unless you have specific tests showing that your applications run faster with it on. 2 cents.
Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: RE: ...]
On 2/26/06, Magnus Therning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are other people receiving emails like the one I've attached after posting to debian-user? Is it possible to track down the person who's causing this and tell him/her to make sure the spamfilter skips postings from debian-user? The person on the list that is causing these to be sent out is apparently either a jerk, or MIA. However, it should be very easy to find the culprit. The autoresponder keeps the subject line intact. A unique code in the subject header sent to every member of the list should end up revealing the problem address. Assuming the person sending the codes isn't already on the allow list for this jerk, of course.
Re: Stupid shell script question about read
On 3/2/06, Kevin B. McCarty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi list, Could someone tell me why the following works in zsh but not in bash/posh/dash? benjo[3]:~% echo foo bar baz | read a b c benjo[4]:~% echo $a $b $c foo bar baz If I try the same with bash (or other sh-compatible shells), the variables $a $b and $c are unset. From the bash man page: ... So read claims to read from the standard input, but it doesn't actually seem to happen when a pipe is involved. What's happening here is that the pipe is causing a subshell to be spawned, which is then parsing the command read a b c. Posh and dash behave like bash in this respect, so I guess that this is not a bug, and that what zsh does is actually an extension. So, what is the correct POSIX-compatible way to get read to work as I want? Yeah, I would guess that zsh is doing something really funky to make this work -- passing variables from a subprocess back up to the parent, or not actually spawning a subprocess with the pipe, or something like that. I'm not sure of the POSIX way to use read in this manner, but I found this on Google/A9: http://linuxgazette.net/issue57/tag/1.html The example he gives, with the () syntax, worked in bash, but not in Debian or FreeBSD's /bin/sh.
Re: apache config question - China IP's
On 2/20/06, Kevin Coyner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 221.226.124.109 - - [20/Feb/2006:16:17:10 -0500] GET http://1-shops.com/prx.php?p=q1w2e3r4t5y6u7i8o9p0*a-b HTTP/1.1 404 288 http://www.google.com/intl/en-us/; Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0; Crazy Browser 1.0.5) I interpret this as follows: Client IP: 221.226.124.109 Page attempted: http://1-shops.com/prx.php?p=q1w2e3r4t5y6u7i8o9p0*a-b HTTP error code: 404 They're hoping that your stats are publicly available, and you use a stats program that displays it as a clickable link. Basically, they're hoping your Google PageRank will help direct more traffic to their URLs. http://www.spywareinfo.com/articles/referer_spam/
Re: binary output from ls
On 2/15/06, Ivan Glushkov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, if I issue ls . filelist.txt as user I get: a binary file like: ESC[0mESC[0mAcro3nKTzaESC[0m ESC[0mfilelist.logESC[0m ESC[01;34mgconfd-glushkovESC[0m ESC[01;34mkde-glushkovESC[0m ESC[01;34mkeyring-CXhOCWESC[0m ESC[01;34mksocket-glushkovESC[0m ESC[01;35mmapping-glushkovESC[0m ESC[01;34morbit-glushkovESC[0m ESC[01;34mssh-mmCRYB8783ESC[0m ESC[01;35mxmms_glushkov.0ESC[0m ESC[0mzmanImD0upESC[0m ESC[m ... if I do that like root, I get the list of files as expected. What is the difference? Both root and the user are using the same shell. Unfortunately, by default, ls uses colors to highlight directories and executables (and others). The default alias provided in .bashrc, with a stock install, is 'ls --color=auto'. auto is supposed to tell ls to ensure it is connected to a tty (instead of a file) before spitting out colors. If that alias is 'ls --color=always', it will always use colors, regardless of the output. The solution will be found in your .bashrc file -- either change the alias to 'ls --color=auto' or remove it entirely, and it should work OK.
Re: help with quoting/expansion in bash
On 2/12/06, David Berg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to write a for loop that descends into a list ofdirectories and runs a command. I can't seem to get the quoting rightthough. Most of the directories have spaces and they are makingthings difficult for me. Here is what I have: for DIR in dir\ 1 dir\ 2 dir\ 3; docd $DIRpwdcd ..done The spaces in $DIR aren't escaped. Any help, including a pointer to the relevant part of TFM, is much appreciated. --Dave Putting quotes around the $DIR variable is the solution here, however there's another option which may come in handy: you can use while loops instead of for loops. The problem with this option is that if the programs within the loop take over stdin for any reason, the loop will terminate prematurely (ssh does this, for example). cat list.txt | while read DIR do cd $DIR; pwd; cd .. done (Btw: I'd recommend wrapping the cd with a if [ -d $DIR ]; then; fi set of directives because while the cd $DIR may not always succeed, cd .. always will.)
Re: Re: [PHP-DB] Help getting php up and running
On 2/11/06, CasperLinux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone have any input? I am googling till my fingers hurt and everything I find says it should be running. Whenever I try to open a test.php file all I get is the web browswer trying to save the file instead of serving up the php content. On Friday 10 February 2006 21:28, CasperLinux wrote: LoadModule includes_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_include.so LoadModule includes_module /usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp4.so That should probably be php4_module or something along those lines. It needs to match whatever the .so was built for; it's not arbitrary.
Re: rsync and chown
On 2/8/06, Ken Irving [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm using rsnapshot, which uses rsync over ssh, and pull backups to the backup server running as root, but I connect to the backup machines as an ordinary user. I use keychain to help automate ssh-agent for authentication, so I need to connect to the backup host after it boots in order to authenticate the keys. By connecting as a regular user I don't get backups of files that aren't world-readable (other than that user's of course), but ownership and permissions are preserved on the backup host. Ken I do the opposite. I let the remote servers log in, using a modified rsnapshot, as regular users, and built a .so (LD_PRELOAD'd) that remaps the various chown, chmod, rename, chdir, etc functions so you can write them out to a file. This way you can back up every file from multiple servers without giving out root access to everyone. It ain't perfect -- specifically, rsync chown's and chmod's temporary files before renaming them into place, so you have to figure out the real filename for the chown/chmod commands. That's just a perl script away, but I haven't done that yet. It's a total hack, but rsnapshot is a pretty slick way to do snapshots.
Re: how to change number of saved lines on console
On 2/6/06, Lubos Vrbka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi guys, is it possible to change (increase) the number of lines that are saved on console? i would like to be able to scroll through the whole boot process history. right now it allows me to go approximately one and half pages back... thanks, I don't have the answer to your question, but you can run dmesg to view the console messages. The buffer is limited in size, so you'll want to run it immediately after boot. I prefer to use a init.d script, set up to run last, to run dmesg /var/run/dmesg.boot, so I have a copy handy at all times.
Re: Mixing SSI and PHP
On 2/6/06, Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it possible to mix both SSI and PHP in a .shtml file? If so, do you have any configuration suggestions? I've tried various Apache configuration options and have not been able to get this to work. Some searching suggests that the only way to do it is by creating SSI pages that include PHP: !--include virtual=foo.php-- It's too bad there isn't a way to tell PHP to try and parse SSI. Heh.
Re: How much hassle to upgrade from 2.4.27 to 2.6.*?
On 2/2/06, Adam Funk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've got a Debian testing/unstable system running a 2.4.27-2-386 or 2.4.27-2-386 kernel, booted from LILO, and I'm thinking of upgrading to 2.6.something. I had originally planned to wait until I had a new computer but I haven't got around to picking one out yet. http://kerneltrap.org/node/3385 describes a bizarre situation that, as far as I know, still exists today.
Re: Missing public keys in aptitude
On 2/2/06, Andreas Janssen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: man apt-secure, man apt-key Neither are found on my Sarge install, and I don't see them in aptitude. Install the 2006 archive signing key. This has been explained plenty of times on the list, search the archive if you need a longer explanation. I've been watching the list, reading most of these threads. I've seen plenty of people having trouble with it but few solutions. Can you send a link to the archived post that includes a solution?
Re: Running a remote graphic program
On 1/27/06, Matt Zagrabelny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *) instead tunnel everything through ssh i turn that on by default for my ssh server: $ grep X11Forwarding /etc/ssh/sshd_config X11Forwarding yes (restart the server for this to take affect, /etc/init.d/ssh restart) and for the client: $ grep ForwardX11 /etc/ssh/ssh_config ForwardX11 yes ForwardX11Trusted yes *) or use xauth I haven't tried ForwardX11Trusted yet, but I have noticed that you need xauth installed on the remote server for ForwardX11 to work. That was a real tricky problem to track down.
Re: aol art files:
On 1/24/06, Richard Lyons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But the odd thing is that this is a recurring theme. Where does it sprout from, I wonder? I suspect an old default Apache home pages installed with packages from older versions of Debian that come up from time to time when administrators misconfigure their servers.
Re: switching / to lvm
On 1/26/06, Mike McCarty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can play with things as you like, but I wouldn't do it. I had problems with LVM and got rid of it. Over on Fedora, I've only seen one say I'm glad I used LVM, but on a regular basis someone gets bitten. Agreed. I haven't used LVM, but if you're having problems with a flaky drive, adding another layer of complexity (LVM, software RAID, etc) won't usually end up helping. What will more likely help is a transparent layer, such as a hardware RAID card.
Re:
On 1/24/06, Igor Milovanovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have this file: -rwx-- 1 f13o f13o 7.1K 2003-06-12 14:08 ppmtolss16 and i can't (?!) chmod it to 755 as user f13o? This hasn't happened to me... please, help. What error do you get? Is there only one f13o userid in /etc/passwd ? Are there any attributes on the file which may prevent this (check with lsattr)?
Re: File system overhead
On 1/19/06, Tony Heal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: anyone have a good link that explains why/what the ext3 overhead is. I have a partition that looks like it has 8GB taken up by the OS and I need to explain this. FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/sda9 219G 168M 208G 1% /opt Check out: http://lwn.net/Articles/81357/
iptraf is not reporting all UDP packets
I haven't been able to find anyone else with this problem after searching Google and others. I'm wondering if I'm just doing something wrong. I have two hosts, connected via crossover cable, and I am running: dd if=/dev/zero bs=131072 | nc -u 10.0.0.3 8000 on one and nc -l -p 8000 -s 10.0.0.3 -u /dev/null on the other. netstat -i and ifconfig both show packet counts increasing, and on both ends tcpdump shows either the packets leaving the host or coming to the host, respectively. On neither host does iptraf report anything more than one or two UDP packets in IP Traffic monitor, General interface statistics, Detailed interface statistics or Statistical breakdowns. It does see the traffic when using LAN Station monitor mode. There are no filters applied in the iptraf Filters menu (specifically, it says All UDP visible). It's missing around 800Mbit/s, according to the stats dd gives when you ^C it. Both hosts are identical, and are running kernel 2.6.14.3 and Debian Sarge, using the Intel 82541GI/PI NIC, negotiated at 1000Mbps. Here's a snip of what tcpdump is seeing: 18:07:32.039438 IP 10.0.0.2 10.0.0.3: udp 18:07:32.039458 IP 10.0.0.2 10.0.0.3: udp 18:07:32.039559 IP 10.0.0.2 10.0.0.3: udp 18:07:32.039577 IP 10.0.0.2.32769 10.0.0.3.8000: UDP, length: 8192 18:07:32.039686 IP 10.0.0.2 10.0.0.3: udp 18:07:32.039704 IP 10.0.0.2.32769 10.0.0.3.8000: UDP, length: 8192 18:07:32.039815 IP 10.0.0.2 10.0.0.3: udp 18:07:32.039818 IP 10.0.0.2 10.0.0.3: udp 18:07:32.039934 IP 10.0.0.2 10.0.0.3: udp 18:07:32.039937 IP 10.0.0.2 10.0.0.3: udp 18:07:32.039954 IP 10.0.0.2.32769 10.0.0.3.8000: UDP, length: 8192
Re: FAQ on debian newcomer list
On 1/10/06, kamaraju kusumanchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would appreciate any feedback/corrections/suggestions etc., (however trivial you think they are) on the following FAQ on debian-user. The final corrected version will be uploaded to http://people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/du-guidelines.html . I am posting the initial version for your kind consideration. Thanks in advance raju I think there should also be something addressing the underlying problem(s). It seems to me that the main reason people want a debian-newcomers list is because they don't want to see so many newbie questions come along on this list. The actual problem is that the system is not quite newbie-proof. We, the experienced, ought to try and improve the processes and the documentation, which would lead to less newbie frustration. There's certainly a limit to how much you can document and hand-hold a user, but we're not even close to that point yet.
Re: [Way OT] #!/bin/bash changes working directory
On 1/5/06, Luis Finotti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear all, I realize that this should be way off topic, so sorry about that... I've been working on a bash script, but when I run something like: --- #!/bin/bash echo $(pwd) I always get $HOME, not the current working directory. I'd need to continue in the working directory from where the script was called to work on the files there. (I'd like it to be portable too, so although it seems to work in my home machine running sarge, it doesn't work with Fedora or OSX...) Do you have some sort of cd $HOME type statement in your .bashrc or .bash_profile or .profile file (or similar)?
Re: 2 eth and boot
On 1/3/06, Enrique Morfin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! Happy new year! I have a box with 2 eth (1 intel, 1 3com) each time it boot, eth0 and eth1 are different: boot one: intel=eth0 3com=eth1 boot two: intel=eth1 3com=eth0 well, not alwais change, it seams to be random. How i make to alwais be the same? Warning: Hack follows. You could try installing 'ifrename' and then create a startup script that calls it before the interfaces are brought up. I'd suggest finding the hardware address of each nic and then naming the interfaces after them in some way (ie: eth00132096C267). Then there'd be no doubt which interface was which. Of course, it could be a real pain if you ever installed a new NIC. Maybe it'd be better to use 'lspci' to decide the name of the NIC. I dunno. Lots of options here.
Re: Determine system ver (Debian vs. other Linuxes) at runtime?
On 12/30/05, Matt England [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I'm left with figuring out much harder ways to tell system revs apart. I'm guessing I'm going to have to make an application which does nothing but evaluate a system and report it's variant (Redhat vs SuSE vs. Debian) and revision (Debian Woody/3.0, Sarge/3.1, etc). I don't know of an API method for this (it may be that there is none) but one way you can try to tell is by running: strings /lib/libc.so.6 | egrep ^Compiled by. On Debian sarge you see: Compiled by GNU CC version 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-12). and on RedHat 7.3: Compiled by GNU CC version 2.96 2731 (Red Hat Linux 7.3 2.96-113). Dunno about the rest of the distributions.
Re: Why does Debian default to Gnome?
On 12/28/05, John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Gnome package is a dummy. It pulls in its components by depending on them. Thus when you remove any of its components it gets removed as well. However, since it has no contents, removing it does no harm. This obviously needs to be better documented. Or, better yet, modified so that removing an application doesn't cause the user to be presented with the scary demand that they also remove gnome. I'm not too familiar with the packages, but I understand there's an optional type as opposed to a required type. If Evolution was optional would it force the user to confirm removing gnome as well?
Re: unsubscribe
On 12/20/05, Almut Behrens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sometimes I'm wondering whether it's that very REQUEST being capitalized that's confusing people -- and whether simply using [EMAIL PROTECTED] would make it appear more like a regular email address after all. IMO, it would be a good demonstration of our problem solving skills if we could manage to program the list processor to honor (or at least not pass on to the general membership) messages with the subject unsubscribe. It's clear to us what this person wanted, and it ought to be a simple matter for a perl script or whatever to handle it. It seems to me that the only reasons this isn't done already are: a) The list population enjoys reading and replying to frequent messages from newbies who simply want to be done with the mailing list. b) The filter could catch something it shouldn't, such as someone asking for aptitude help but using the subject unsubscribe to do it. IIRC, the unsubscribe address autoresponds asking for confirmation, so adding a note there instructing the user how to avoid getting caught by the filter may be sufficient to handle the second case.
Re: dselect: unable to open/create access method lockfile
On 12/16/05, Brian C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dselect: unable to open/create access method lockfile but I still get the same error. Can anyone explain how to allow dselect to create the lockfile it wants to? I'm not sure where it would put the lockfile, but you may be able to find out using 'strace'. strace will show you the system calls the process is attempting, including what files it's trying to read. 'strace -o foo dselect' and then 'grep access foo' or 'grep open foo' may give you the answer.
Re: all my email vanished -- again
On 12/2/05, Hendrik Boom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, last night all the massages I had left in /var/mail/hendrik vanished *again*. Just like the night before. Of course, by the time I got to look at my mail, a few new ones had arrived. I'm starting to think it's not just a fluke. Do you have some sort of IMAP/POP server installed, and could a client be fetching and then deleting all mail? Maybe a long shot.
Re: BASH Scripting Question
On 11/25/05, Metrics [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Can someone explain to me the following behaviour? I have this script #!/bin/sh LISTS=('debian-user' 'security-basics' 'hostap' 'pen-test' 'ntbugtraq' 'ion-general' 'vim' 'madwifi'); LIST_COUNT=${#LISTS} echo $LIST_COUNT for ((i=0;i$LIST_COUNT-1;i++)); do echo /home/bhillis/Maildir/.${LISTS[${i}]}/ done 11 is the length of the string 'debian-user'. LIST_COUNT=$((${#LISTS[*]}+1)) will give you the right number.
Re: hanging web pages
On 21 Nov 2005 23:01:59 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Many of the web pages I visit cause the browser to hang for significant periods of time (a minute or more in many cases). Until the page finishes loading, the window does not update, and mouse clicks have no effect. This happens with every browser I've tried (mozilla, firefox, galeon, ephiphany, konqueror). I thought it might be a java thing, but it seems to also happen with java and javascript turned off. How can I find out what's causing this, and how can I prevent it? It seems to be happening more and more, and it's really annoying. -David Try watching top in another window or some other tool that lets you watch memory use. Modern browsers require significant amounts of RAM, and you may be running out, forcing the system to swap unused pages to disk. If you have less than 256MB of RAM, you may have a much better experience if you increase it to 512MB or more.
Re: Antispam UOL spam from [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 11/18/05, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not to mention that you should have received only one message per post you made to mailing lists the loser with AntispamUOL is part of. Maybe you are seeing the results of a spammer forging your address? I received over 20 (I stopped counting at 20) immediately after posting on the list. I doubt it's because of a spammer, unless someone on the list is watching for posts and then forging 20+ emails to the C/R address. It really does look like this problem can either only be solved by UOL fixing their servers (since it is their code that C/R's Bcc:'d email) or by the Debian moderators removing everyone that uses UOL from the list. Since UOL is ignoring our complaints (I'm betting I'm not the only one that sent a explanation of what's going wrong), the only option remaining is to have the moderator remove the UOL users, unfortunately. Could start by checking if [EMAIL PROTECTED] is on the list. (I also wonder if petsupermarket.com.br is related, maybe it's [EMAIL PROTECTED]).
Re: spam howto
On 11/17/05, kamaraju kusumanchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In order to get rid of all the spam that I get due to posting to public archived mailing lists etc., I subscribe to mailing lists through a gmail account. Gmail spam filtering is quite effective and filters almost 95% of the spam. But the gmail web interface is not that great (no thread view, cannot easily delete emails etc.,). So I use pop functionality of gmail account and read these emails by using thunderbird (you can also use other email clients such as mutt etc.,) Unfortunately gmail sends about 1/2 to 1/3 of my legitimate mail to the spam folder. That number is lower recently, but is accurate up until a few days ago at least. It may be because I'm using my own domain instead of my gmail.com address, but I'm not sure. Basically what I've been telling people is if you switch to gmail be prepared to check the spam folder frequently.
Re: Antispam UOL spam from [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 11/17/05, Rogério Brito [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know if that's exactly a black hole, but you can also try to address your messages to, at least, two other addresses: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] whois also suggests sending complaints to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . It would probably be best for customers of UOL to complain to them about this, as they're in the best position to convince UOL to stop this sort of behavior.
Re: redirecting the output with sudo
On 11/16/05, kamaraju kusumanchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have tried $sudo wajig doc /root/wajig_doc.txt But it does not work. Using Debian sid, bash 3.00.16(1). regards raju The reason the above doesn't work is because wajig doc are the only arguments sent to sudo. Your current shell interprets the /root/wajig_doc.txt arguments. Your best bet is to find out if wajig has some sort of output flag, so you can do: wajig -flag wajig_doc.txt doc (I don't know if it has any flags).
Re: redirecting the output with sudo
On 11/16/05, Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why not use script? That's certainly another option. I was assuming the sudo configuration was restricted to running that particular program. If sudo allows any string to be passed to it, script is a good solution. As are the suggested sudo sh -c foo bar lines. However if the sudo user is able to redirect output to arbitrary files, as root, the primary function of sudo (restricted root privileges) seems to be bypassed. IMO.
Re: looking for a transparent hardware RAID controller for debian
On 11/14/05, Michelle Konzack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Du you have used SATA drives with PATA Hardware or WD Raptor WD360GD and WD740GD which have real SCSI-Hardware. They run with 10.000 RpM. We haven't tried Raptors yet. We're waiting for the capacities to approach that of the other SATA drives. As it is now the pricing on the Raptors isn't low enough compared to identically sized SCSI disks for us to use them instead. I've definitely wanted to experiment with them though.
Re: SSH X11Forwarding not working - what am I doing wrong.
On 11/11/05, Alan Chandler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But nothing is happening. Firstly, I would have expected on the remote machine for the DISPLAY variable to have been set to localhost:10.0, but it is unset, but even if I set it manually, there doesn't seem to be a channel there (X programs complain they can't connect to the display) My guess is that there is some other configuration (PAM or something like that) that I should also be tweaking to allow this. Anyone any ideas what? What does ssh -v say when you try to connect? I'm guessing it's something like: debug1: Requesting X11 forwarding with authentication spoofing. debug1: Remote: No xauth program; cannot forward with spoofing. If so, you'll need to install the xbase-clients package to get xauth. There may be some way to do this without authentication spoofing, but I don't know it.
Re: looking for a transparent hardware RAID controller for debian
On 11/9/05, Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Last week on the list someone mentioned possible problems with the 3ware 9xxx cards and newer kernels. Maybe it's been resolved, maybe not. Yeah, someone was having trouble with kernel panic -- the VFS cannot mount root one indicating that the card wasn't being recognized by the kernel. Haven't heard if he got it resolved or not, though. I can personally confirm that the 2.6 kernel can see 9xxx series cards, at least the 9500S-12: # uname -a Linux raid 2.6.13.2 #1 SMP Fri Sep 30 16:42:38 PDT 2005 i686 GNU/Linux # ./tw_cli info Ctl ModelPorts Drives Units NotOpt RRate VRate BBU c09500S-12 12 12 1 04 4 OK c19500S-12 12 12 1 04 4 OK
Re: looking for a transparent hardware RAID controller for debian
On 11/10/05, Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The issue was performance, though. Are you getting good speed? I must have missed that email then, sorry about that. We use RAID5 on this Linux box, RAID5 on FreeBSD (old driver) and RAID1 and 10 on FreeBSD (old and new driver). Overall our impression has been that the RAIDs are reasonably fast, but not as fast as 15k RPM SCSI drives, specifically with random access. MySQL databases seem to perform much better on single fast SCSI disks than on 7200RPM SATA RAIDs, at this time, for us. The added reliability and reduced concern over total data loss is worth the reduced speed for most applications -- especially web servers. (Of course, data loss is still possible, but restores of this magnitude take a long time, so anything to avoid that is a big win.) Specifically regarding the RAID5 server mentioned previously, which is a dual 2.8Ghz Xeon 2MB cache w/ 4GB RAM 3ware 9500S-12 2.6.13.2 kernel (for the archives), and /data2-2 being one of the auto-carved slices of the larger RAID, here's the output of a 'dd' command: $ dd if=/dev/zero of=/data2-2/bigfile bs=131072 count=10 10+0 records in 10+0 records out 1310720 bytes transferred in 119.269480 seconds (109895675 bytes/sec) and bonnie++ -d /data2-2/tmp -s 1024m -u nobody: Version 1.03 --Sequential Output-- --Sequential Input- --Random- -Per Chr- --Block-- -Rewrite- -Per Chr- --Block-- --Seeks-- MachineSize K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP /sec %CP raid 8G 40076 99 93772 18 29379 6 29792 68 185058 18 314.2 0 --Sequential Create-- Random Create -Create-- --Read--- -Delete-- -Create-- --Read--- -Delete-- files /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP 16 4043 20 + +++ 2964 14 3603 18 + +++ 2024 9 raid,8G,40076,99,93772,18,29379,6,29792,68,185058,18,314.2,0,16,4043,20,+,+++,2964,14,3603,18,+,+++,2024,9 Note that this server is actually in active (but light) production use while running these commands.
the Debian way to sync apt-get and aptitude
Is there a Debian way to sync apt-get and aptitude data files? We just had a problem where aptitude decided to programs that were installed by apt-get immediately prior. This is on Sarge stable. Specifically, the steps to reproduce this were: apt-get install flac aptitude Press 'g' and you'd see 2 held back packages (cpio, libssl) and 4 packages to be removed (flac and its dependencies). If you removed flac+deps with aptitude and then reinstalled them with apt-get, aptitude would still want to remove flac. This could not be reproduced on another Sarge stable server, so I suspect the aptitude/apt-get data files got corrupted in some way. Upgrading 'cpio' and 'libssl' packages took care of this particular problem, but that doesn't make a lot of sense, since they're not dependencies or conflicts to flac. (I have searched Google for this, but I find a lot of documentation for aptitude instead. I'm fine with being pointed at documentation if someone written about this somewhere.)
Re: looking for a transparent hardware RAID controller for debian
On 11/9/05, enediel gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello I'm looking for a transparent hardware RAID controller to implement a RAID1 for the debian, ?Is it possible to find a RAID controller on the market (no matter for IDE, SATA, SCSI hard drives) that at the moment of the debian installation, it will see one hard drive on the box ? We tested a few motherboards with RAID controller included, etc, etc, etc, but until today we don't have the right answer for this question. I'll appreciate if somebody give me the controller model that finally we help us solve this question. Thanks in advance for any help Best regards Enediel The 3ware 8xxx and 9xxx IDE/SATA series cards work very well in our experience -- better than any SCSI RAID card I've ever used (although admittedly I haven't spent thousands on a single card yet). The 9xxx is supported when you install Sarge with the 2.6 kernel, out of the box.
aic7xxx driver floppy for sarge
Hi All, This may sound like a stupid question, answered in some FAQ somewhere, but I just can't find it. Does anyone know which Sarge floppy image contains the aic7xxx SCSI driver?
Re: kernel panic - trying to build 2.6.x for Dell PowerEdge 850
On 11/7/05, Mark Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm getting this error and can't boot the 2.6.9 kernel that I built: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknow-block(8,2). I'm NOT a linux admin by any stretch. This box boots using 2.4.31. I think maybe it has something to do with the SATA drive?? Any help will be appreciated. Yeah, it probably does. I see you are using a 3ware controller. Could it be a 9xxx series rather than one of the 8xxx SATA boards? The 9xxx are more common, I think. They use a different driver.
Re: Serial ATA Hardware RAID recommendations?
On 11/4/05, Chris Boot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I'd like to probe the list to see what hardware RAID solutions people can recommend that will: 1. Take 5/6 SATA disks for RAID 5/6/10 2. Allow them to be hot-plugged (with or without Jeff Garzik's in-progress SATA hotplug patches) 3. Do the work in hardware 4. Be fast and reliable All I've done previously is software RAID 10 which I'm happy with, but I'm now building a high-performance database / file server and don't want the machine spending time calculating parity and so on. Many thanks, Chris I've used 3ware SATA RAID cards (8xxx and 9xxx series) for a long time, in several servers, and I love 'em. They work far better than any SCSI RAID cards I've used (except for raw speed, of course. SCSI SATA) and are supported very well under Linux and FreeBSD. I don't know how well they work with Linux hotplug stuff, but I do know that you can hot swap the drives within RAIDs easily, as that's all handled by the card itself.
Re: How to lock user in his home.
On 9/13/05, Leonardo Marques [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i want the user can do everything they can do by default minus browse accross the file system. Unfortunately this is not easily done. The user will need read access to the directories containing the binaries, such as /bin for the previously mentioned 'ls' program. If you're willing to restrict them further, and only allow them to change files within their home directory and subdirectories, but not allow them to run any programs, you could set them up with a FTP-only login. You'll need to consult your FTP server documentation to determine how to do this.
Re: Starting background process in ssh session
On 9/1/05, Roberto C. Sanchez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, when I log out of the machine, the ssh process on my local machine blocks. I guess that it is becuase the remote still has jobs running. Is there a way to get it start the process in the background and then detach from the shell? I have already tried this: ssh -f should do what you want, and then you don't need to send the . ssh will still be running, but it will be forked off into the background.