Re: Glibc 2.1.94-3, fixes all issues with db libraries

2000-09-30 Thread Decklin Foster
Ben Collins writes:

> I don't have time to list everything it fixes, but I can tell you that it
> fixes EVERY issue that EVERYONE was having.

Indeed, it's working perfectly here. Cheers! (I will no longer have to
bug anyone about recompiling Perl...)

> For those bitten by The Great Glibc Update of 2000, welcome to our annual
> ritual.

As a visiting teacher of Zen told me last week, "pain is an essential
part of practice." It's good to know we're looking out for the
spiritual health of our users. ;-)

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Re: gzipped readmes in /usr/doc/*

2000-08-01 Thread Decklin Foster
[-devel snipped]

S. Champ writes:

> what is the command to read these README documents, without having
> to first use a command to un-gzip the same?

zless

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Re: Timeline for potato

1999-12-29 Thread Decklin Foster
Rainer Dorsch writes:

> The timeline is great! But I think it should be continued. As
> experience shows, shortly after releasing potato (or even shortly
> after freezing potato), kernel 2.4 and XFree 4.0 will appear.

Well, I had been expecting XFree 4.0 in July, so this is good news :)
from reading their web page, it looks like 3.3.6 will come out just
after the freeze or release. 4.0 is still a ways off... As for the
kernel, I didn't think 2.3 was really frozen (I could have missed
something!).

> Should there be a potato update in this case or is Debian seriously
> wanting to shorten release cycles?

I'd really like to see shorter cycles, If only to get a better code
name than "woody" quickly. ;-) I wonder how many people running for
Project Leader are going to bring the release-cycle issue up...

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A reminder: debian-project exists

1999-12-26 Thread Decklin Foster
This message is just to remind everyone that [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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a metter of personal opinion. But if you want to discuss that, do so
on debian-project :-). If everyone helps out, it shouldn't be too hard.

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Re: newbie debian questions

1999-07-26 Thread Decklin Foster
> Anybody can help me out? ps top xmkmf  or tell me how can I find
> them?

ps and top are in procps, and xmkmf is in xlib6g-dev. You can find
this out quicker by going to #debian on irc.openprojects.net and
typing "!find ps" "!find xmkmf", etc.

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Re: apt-get on linux / download on NT

1999-07-19 Thread Decklin Foster
> On Mon, 19 Jul 1999, Joel Gautschi wrote:
> 
> > I have a debian (slink) pc at home. Sometimes I want to update
> > some packages or even the whole system - f.e. to a later debian
> > dist. the problem is that I don't have a static connection to the
> > internet (or sth like that) at home.  My connection isn't fast
> > enough if i want to upgrade to a later debain-dist... (-> it would
> > cost a lot of money). the best solution would be if I could
> > generate a list of the needed packages for upgrade on my linux pc
> > at home (f.e. with apt-get). 
> 
> I'm somewhat sharing this problem. My problem is now to install
> Debian in a machine. It is connected to the net, but I cannot make
> that connection using Linux at the moment. The base is already
> installed, but 
> 
> 1) I wanted to install a predefined standard system.  2) How can I
> get easily a list of the packages needed? 
> 
> I could put all the neede packages on a zip-disk. Both win and
> debian can read and write on that zip-disk, but the netconnection is
> now only with win95.   

Looks a little tricky, but doable. What you'll need to do is copy
files from a Debian FTP mirror on to your Zip disk or other media, and
put them in a directory /dists/unstable/main/binary-i386 (or whatever
your architecture is). To get dselect to prompt you for packages with
"standard" priority and updated base packages, copy the Packages.gz
and Release files to binary-i386. Then, on your Debian machine, add
this to your /etc/apt/sources.list:

deb file:/mnt/ unstable main

Assuming you mounted the zip disk on /mnt. Then do "apt-get-update."
This *should* fool apt into thinking the lastest versions of packages
are availible. Go into dselect's [S]elect step and write down
everything that you need to get (There's probably an automatic way to
do this, I don't know.)

Now you can get the packages from your local mirror of ftp.debian.org
over the fast connection, and dump them in binary-i386/. At thins
point I would just mount the disk and do "dpkg -i *.deb", but you can
also use dpkg-scanpackages to recreate the Packages file, and then
just gzip it and run apt-get upgrade (or dist-upgrade).

Anyway, disclaimer: if you don't want to go potato, just replace
"unstable" with "stable". I have not tested this at all!! it may be
wrong somewhere. If so, email me, so that I can figure it out for you
and have the right answer next time. Hope this helps.

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Re: Linux Install

1999-06-08 Thread Decklin Foster
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I downloaded the /main directory from the stable area on the
> Debian.org FTP site and burned that to a CD, less the devel section.
> (This and the disks directory almost fill one CD.)

This is almost always not necessary; you can download the essentail
files from disks- and then have APT do the
downloading (I assume that if you have the time or bandwidth to
download this much before installing then you have enough to do it
during :-)

> 6 hours later the install bombed with an error code 1. Any ideas?

This is usually an setup *script* from a specific pacakge that's
causing trouble; in most cases once you can eliminate the problem with
package X everything else can configure itself fine. However, to get
any help you'll have to post the actual errors - what script is
causing this problem and what the command with the 'red flag' exit
status is. From there someone should be able to figure it out.

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Re: system shutdown from xdm

1999-05-01 Thread Decklin Foster
> Dave Whiteley wrote:
> 
> > Now I am playing with my own linux systems, and I want to create a
> > similar user to give my Wife an easy way to shut down the PC.

I use the following solution to let my mom shut down the PC from xdm:

** Step 1: a short Xaw program.

#include 
#include 
#include  
#include  

void run(Widget w, XtPointer data, XtPointer call)
{
system("shutdown -h now");
exit(0);
}

int main(int argc, char *argv[])
{
Widget toplevel, button;

toplevel = XtInitialize(argv[0], "simple", NULL, 0, &argc, argv);
button = XtCreateManagedWidget("Shutdown",
commandWidgetClass, toplevel, NULL, 0);
XtAddCallback(button, XtNcallback, run, NULL);

XtRealizeWidget(toplevel);
XtMainLoop();
exit(0);
}

to compile, 'apt-get install xlib6g-dev' and run:
gcc -O2 -Wall -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lXaw -lX11 xshutdown.c -o xshutdown

Note that this program is mostly cribbed from a 'Hello, world' sample
somewhere and segfaults if you try to send it a WM_DELETE; I'm working
on that. (I could do it in GTK[1], but the Xaw course notes I was using
have gone offline.) In other words don't trust this code to be the
definitive implementation.

** Step 2: start this up when the login widget is presented.
in xdm's Xsetup file (which should be in /etc/X11/xdm):

/root/xshutdown -bg gray -fn lucidasans-12 -geom -126+380 &
echo $! > /var/run/xshutdown.pid

** Step 3: kill it when a user sucessfully logs in.
in xdm's Xstartup file:

pid=$(cat /var/run/xshutdown.pid 2>/dev/null)
test "$pid" && kill $pid 2>/dev/null

(once again, syntax here is cribbed from how Debian's default
scripts[2] deal with xconsole (which I have disabled anyway). In this
case that should make it pretty solid though.)

Since the little Xaw proggie runs as root, it is allowed to shut down
the computer. There could be a security hole somewhere, but I'm not
going to get too concerned there.

[1] the problem with GTK is that it doesn't implement -geom, which I
use to but the shutdown button in the lower left corner of the login
widget (kludge! kludge!). You can also use +0-0 or -5-5 for the lower
left corner or 5 pixels from the lower right... read 'man X' and
experiment. plus GTK looks kinda silly without a window manager frame.

[2] except for the way I prefer to use to use 'test'. Syntactic sugar
rots your teeth! :-)

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