Re: Copy from xterm to text editor........ [solved]
On Thursday, 13 June 2024 07:27:47 -04 Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, Jun 13, 2024 at 03:42:27PM +1000, Charlie wrote: > > For completeness. Had tried right and left at same time on touchpad > > of laptop. As it worked years ago. > > Pressing left+right buttons simultaneously was indeed one of the hacks > that people used to mimic the middle button in some X11 setups. I > haven't seen that in practice in quite some time. I think people > mostly stopped implementing it, because two-button mice (without > scroll wheels) fell out of the market. > > > Didn't think the touchpad had a middle button. Don't know why? > > I forgot about laptops with touchpads. Unfortunately, this is not > an area that I've had to research, so I don't know what the current X > and Wayland implementations do to emulate three-button mice. Maybe > someone else knows, or maybe you can find some modern-day > documentation about it on the Internet. Dear Greg, on my TUXEDO Laptop the touchpad is configurable. e.g. middle mouse button == tap with two fingers or like I opted for 'tap harder onto the lower right corner' of the touchpad. just my 2 cents and thanks because I learned a lot from your posts! Kind regards Eike [rest skipped]
Re: debian bookworm japanese kana input disabled
On Donnerstag, 9. Mai 2024 08:48:03 -04 Brad Rogers wrote: > On Thu, 9 May 2024 10:06:29 + > Michael Kjörling <2695bd53d...@ewoof.net> wrote: > > Hello Michael, > > >However, I seem to have had a similar issue even after upgrading to > >the first regression-fixed glib2.0 packages on Bookworm. > >Specifically, dead keys no longer working with the Swedish keyboard > >layout, and instead acting as though I didn't press any key at all. > > Is it possible that, without at least logging out and back in, the > broken version of the library is still in use? Hi Michael and hello 冨澤守治[1] I don't know if it was related but with the same Debian Sid upgrade Firefox (and only Firefox) lost the ability to enter äöüáéí€ß ... that is it ignored anything which was not pure ASCII, however entering the accented characters in a terminal or other applications (here KDE) still worked. After today's upgrade everything was back to normal but I *had* to reboot. So logging out and back in again might work although I suspect that at least restarting the X server will be necessary. I didn't try it because I had to reboot anyway. All the best to you all -- Eike Lantzsch KY4PZ / ZP5CGE [1] mailto: %3D%3Futf-8%3FB%3F5Yao5r6k5a6I5rK7%3F%3D%20%3Cmolitz%40coffee.ocn.ne.jp%3E
Re: Zoom in the official repo is outdated
On Mittwoch, 24. April 2024 15:42:39 -04 Luiz Romário Santana Rios wrote: > Hello, > > (Please cc me when replying as I'm not subscribed to the list) > > Earlier this month, I noticed I was no longer able to login to Zoom > meetings using the client installed from the Debian repos. In order to > join meetings, I had to uninstall it then install the flatpack Zoom > package. > > I think it should either be updated or outright removed in favor of > the flatpack version. What do you think? Should I report a bug? > > Sds, > > Romário Hello Romário, To me it seems that Zoom on your Debian installation will be outdated forever because it is not part of any Debian repository. Not even zoom.us hints on a repository lurking in the realms of proprietary software somewhere. You need to install a new version from here: https://support.zoom.com/hc/en/article? id=zm_kb_article=KB0063458#h_adcc0b66-b2f4-468b-bc7a-12c182f354b7[1] You may download the package from herehttps://zoom.us/download?os=linux[2] Enter OS Type, architecture and further download the public key. Check the package against it and then dpkg -i zoom-package You might have to install some additional dependencies manually. Then hope that it will work as designed. Have a nice day and all the best to you -- Eike Lantzsch KY4PZ / ZP5CGE On a note about Re: Sv: and so on "feature" of MS email clients. Re: is not a short for "Reply" as MS seems to think. A re (the ablative of res 'thing') has been used in English since the 18th century to mean 'in the matter of', 'referring to'. [1] https://support.zoom.com/hc/en/article? id=zm_kb_article=KB0063458#h_adcc0b66-b2f4-468b-bc7a-12c182f354b7 [2] https://zoom.us/download?os=linux
Re: Bookworm Networking Issues
On Sonntag, 17. März 2024 13:54:27 -03 David wrote: > I am running Bookworm on a thin client and Network-Manger seems to be > the source of my problems. > > I have purged Network-Manager from this thin client, but I can't find > out how to get /etc/network/interface to run. I have added to 2 NIC's > that I need. > > Can anybody suggest how to get the networking running? > > Thank you, > > David. David, with all respect, your post is bare of any information which would enable someone without a crystal ball to help with the issue. Maybe start here: 'man if' and or 'man ifconfig' All the best -- Eike Lantzsch KY4PZ / ZP5CGE
Re: red SATA cables "notoriously bad"? (Was Re: Orphaned Inode Problem)
On Dienstag, 20. Februar 2024 06:58:31 -03 Eike Lantzsch ZP5CGE / KY4PZ wrote: > On Montag, 19. Februar 2024 21:48:52 -03 Andy Smith wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On Mon, Feb 19, 2024 at 04:12:44PM -0300, Eike Lantzsch ZP5CGE / > > KY4PZ > wrote: > > > The notorious red SATA cables - I threw them out long ago. The red > > > pigment eats up the fine copper threads, changing the impedance of > > > the cable and eventually making false contact before failing > > > completely. > > > > I've never heard of this. I did a bit of searching around and all I > > can find is assertions that cable colour doesn't matter for SATA. I > > can't seem to find anything about red pigment damaging the copper. > > Have you got a reference so I can learn more? > > > > Thanks, > > Andy > > Experience ... > "notoriously bad" on my work bench. > Audio cables, SATA cables, even red cables of 1.5mm2 upwards. The > corrosion can be seen although it takes decades for the thicker cables > to deteriorate. > It very much depends on where the cables have been manufactured. > Never had problems with European made or US made telephone cables with > wires with red sheeths. But copper cable manufacturing has been > outsourced to Asia (and Argentina - Pirelli but those are good) many > decades ago. If you open the sheeth of the red SATA cable, you will see that at least three wires have no extra sheeth but are directly embedded into the red plastic. 4 are shielded. So I guess that those wires are not affected. There is one naked wire in the middle and two to the right and left. -- Eike Lantzsch KY4PZ / ZP5CGE
Re: red SATA cables "notoriously bad"? (Was Re: Orphaned Inode Problem)
On Montag, 19. Februar 2024 21:48:52 -03 Andy Smith wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, Feb 19, 2024 at 04:12:44PM -0300, Eike Lantzsch ZP5CGE / KY4PZ wrote: > > The notorious red SATA cables - I threw them out long ago. The red > > pigment eats up the fine copper threads, changing the impedance of > > the cable and eventually making false contact before failing > > completely. > I've never heard of this. I did a bit of searching around and all I > can find is assertions that cable colour doesn't matter for SATA. I > can't seem to find anything about red pigment damaging the copper. > Have you got a reference so I can learn more? > > Thanks, > Andy Experience ... "notoriously bad" on my work bench. Audio cables, SATA cables, even red cables of 1.5mm2 upwards. The corrosion can be seen although it takes decades for the thicker cables to deteriorate. It very much depends on where the cables have been manufactured. Never had problems with European made or US made telephone cables with wires with red sheeths. But copper cable manufacturing has been outsourced to Asia (and Argentina - Pirelli but those are good) many decades ago. -- Eike Lantzsch KY4PZ / ZP5CGE
Re: Orphaned Inode Problem
On Montag, 19. Februar 2024 14:20:52 -03 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Mon, Feb 19, 2024 at 10:02:10AM -0500, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > > I am running up to date Bookworm on my Debian platform: > > > > Processor AMD FX(tm)-8320 Eight-Core Processor > > Memory 8026MB (5267MB used) > > Machine TypeDesktop > > Operating SystemDebian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm) > > > > I have been plagued with orphaned inodes. Last night the problem > > cane to a head. When I reboot the computer, after an orphaned inode > > incident created stop, it got as far as the user login. After the > > return I got the Windows infamous blue screen. Restarting produced > > the same problem. > > > > Fortunately, I have another SSD used to test Bookworm, before > > updating on the SSD that is having the problem. I can access the > > problem drive and am in the process of backing up files. > > > > I ran sudo e2fsck -f/dev/sdc1 and got: > > > > Script started on 2024-02-19 08:15:52-05:00 [TERM="xterm-256color" > > TTY="/dev/pts/0" COLUMNS="100" LINES="24"] > > [?2004h(base) ]0;comp@AbNormal: > > ~[01;32mcomp@AbNormal[00m:[01;34m~[00m$ sudo e2fsck -f > > /dev/sdc1lcaomo[Ksudo e2fsck -f > > /dev/sdc1 [?2004l > > [sudo] password for comp: > > e2fsck 1.47.0 (5-Feb-2023) > > Pass 1: Checking inodes, blocks, and sizes > > Pass 2: Checking directory structure > > Pass 3: Checking directory connectivity > > /lost+found not found. Create? yes > > Pass 4: Checking reference counts > > Pass 5: Checking group summary information > > > > /dev/sdc1: * FILE SYSTEM WAS MODIFIED * > > /dev/sdc1: 7982363/121577472 files (0.3% non-contiguous), > > 421959365/486307328 blocks > > [?2004h(base) ]0;comp@AbNormal: > > ~[01;32mcomp@AbNormal[00m:[01;34m~[00m$ [?2004l > > > > Comments and suggestions will be appreciated. > > This session doesn't show anything to worry about. As far as fsck > is concerned, the file system looks clean. Back up its contents as > quickly as you can and treat the disk with suspicion. There are > other candidate suspects for file system corruption (flaky power > supply, software doing silly things, kernel bugs, loose cables), > but the disk would be the pirmary. > > Cheers Just as an aside note: The notorious red SATA cables - I threw them out long ago. The red pigment eats up the fine copper threads, changing the impedance of the cable and eventually making false contact before failing completely. Of course this does not apply to NVME SSDs. -- Eike Lantzsch KY4PZ / ZP5CGE
Re: I've an editable .pdf form I need to fill out
On Sonntag, 21. Januar 2024 15:11:46 -03 gene heskett wrote: > On 1/21/24 09:04, Eike Lantzsch ZP5CGE / KY4PZ wrote: > > On Sonntag, 21. Januar 2024 02:35:13 -03 gene heskett wrote: > >> I'm trying to get our states Attorney General to exert some > >> influence > >> over a cell phone bill I don't owe. The AG has sent me a form > >> letter > >> PDF with fill in the blanks for all the info. > >> > >> Do we have an editor in our arsenal that can do that to a pdf? > >> > >> Thanks all. > >> > >> Cheers, Gene Heskett. > > > > Just a remark. > > Gene, > > many people (working in General Attorney offices too) do not know > > that they must not simply send a dokument to PRINT as PDF but that > > it is necessary to EXPORT the document as PDF. If it is sent to > > print then it loses all ability to fill in the form, because it > > ends up as a PDF which is meant to be printed and nothing else. > > If the the form has fields to be filled by the receiver of the form, > > then the only way to go is (for example with Libreoffice Writer) > > export as PDF. If you have received a form you may open it using > > Okular. If Okular then shows: > > "This document has forms. Click on the button to interact with them, > > or use View -> Show Forms." and also shows the pertinent button > > "Show Forms" then all is well. > > If Okular does not show the message nor the button then you are out > > of luck. > > You might ask the sender to send the form again but this time using > > "Export to pdf" instead of just sending it as a file to the pdf > > printer. But many an office worker is too computer illiterate to > > manage "such a complex task" (it's not complicated). > > Then all options left to you is painting over the pdf. Either by > > using a drwaing program like other already mentioned or by using > > Okular and trying to insert text over the form. It's try-and-error > > to hit the right spot. > > *Important:* > > In any case THEN you need to send the form as file to a pdf printer. > > Otherwise the overlay is only stored on your disk but will not be > > sent to the intended receiver together with the original pdf file. > > > > Hope eventually all goes well for you and all the best to you > > Eike > > -- > > Eike Lantzsch KY4PZ / ZP5CGE > > Most informative. thank you a lot Eike. I have, on another workspace > after installing it "xournal" has opened that pdf, I have enabled the > add annotations function but not killed a tree to test print. I see > both "print" and "Export as pdf" in the file menu. > > Are you saying that I should do the annotations, then export to pdf, > in order to overlay my notes over that file and then print that > exported pdf in sufficient copies for the AG office's slaves. Or if > its correct, email the exported pdf back to them. I think that may be > the expected response from me. You can do the annotations and directly print as file to a pdf-printer. The resulting file can then be sent to the office. You might have to rename the file because it will most certainly have a name like print.pdf which is not very informative for storing. > > Sounds a bit complex but if xournal works as indicated its doable from > my viewpoint. > > Thanks again Eike, Take care, stay warm, dry & well please Well yes, it's quite warm her in Asunción - about 34°C / 93°F ;-) All the best Eike Eike Lantzsch KY4PZ / ZP5CGE
Re: I've an editable .pdf form I need to fill out
On Sonntag, 21. Januar 2024 02:35:13 -03 gene heskett wrote: > I'm trying to get our states Attorney General to exert some influence > over a cell phone bill I don't owe. The AG has sent me a form letter > PDF with fill in the blanks for all the info. > > Do we have an editor in our arsenal that can do that to a pdf? > > Thanks all. > > Cheers, Gene Heskett. Just a remark. Gene, many people (working in General Attorney offices too) do not know that they must not simply send a dokument to PRINT as PDF but that it is necessary to EXPORT the document as PDF. If it is sent to print then it loses all ability to fill in the form, because it ends up as a PDF which is meant to be printed and nothing else. If the the form has fields to be filled by the receiver of the form, then the only way to go is (for example with Libreoffice Writer) export as PDF. If you have received a form you may open it using Okular. If Okular then shows: "This document has forms. Click on the button to interact with them, or use View -> Show Forms." and also shows the pertinent button "Show Forms" then all is well. If Okular does not show the message nor the button then you are out of luck. You might ask the sender to send the form again but this time using "Export to pdf" instead of just sending it as a file to the pdf printer. But many an office worker is too computer illiterate to manage "such a complex task" (it's not complicated). Then all options left to you is painting over the pdf. Either by using a drwaing program like other already mentioned or by using Okular and trying to insert text over the form. It's try-and-error to hit the right spot. *Important:* In any case THEN you need to send the form as file to a pdf printer. Otherwise the overlay is only stored on your disk but will not be sent to the intended receiver together with the original pdf file. Hope eventually all goes well for you and all the best to you Eike -- Eike Lantzsch KY4PZ / ZP5CGE
Re: I cannot shutdown/poweroff after a HW upgrade - kernel gets stuck.
On Sonntag, 26. März 2023 18:08:15 -04 Ram Ramesh wrote: > I wanted to upgrade my server from 10 year old HW to something newer. > THis server runs debian bullseye with v5.19 kernel from backports. [snip] > > The only trouble I have is that it refuses to > reboot/shutdown/poweroff. It seem to go through all steps and reach > the end but seem to get stuck in this endless cycle complaining about > some blkdev issue. Here are the last lines printed on the console > that shows the cycle > > [OK] Reached target Power-off > [67652.NN] block device autoloading is deprecated and will be > removed > > [67667.NN] blkdev_get_no_open: 119 callbacks suppressed > different and number of callbacks being slightly different> > > I assume by "[OK]..." line that we are really at the end of shut down > process. When I turn off physically using power switch and reboot, I > do not get any fsck error messages. So, I assume that filesystems are > safe and kernel is somehow lost in some thread and cannot end the > reboot process. > > Any ideas what I can do? > > Regards > Ramesh Hi Ramesh, this might help. The bug is fixed with kernel 6.0.2-1 https://groups.google.com/g/linux.debian.bugs.dist/c/p-sgJiTR00A?pli=1[1] All the best to you Eike -- Eike Lantzsch KY4PZ / ZP5CGE [1] https://groups.google.com/g/linux.debian.bugs.dist/c/p-sgJiTR00A?pli=1
Re: Removable media issue
On Mittwoch, 1. März 2023 14:26:02 -03 Hans wrote: > Hi folks, > > some weeks ago I mentioned the problem, that an USB-stick is not > recognized, when it is put in the second time. I am using Plasma5. > > For remembering: > > 1. Put the USB-Stick for the first time in, it will be recognized. > > 2. Mount it in the window either by the option in the bottom taskbar > or by starting dolphin in the taskbar. > > 3. When you finished work, unmount it with the option in the taskbar. > > 4. When you now reinsert the same USB-stick, it will not be > recognized, that there is an USB-stick again connected. > > Please note: This behaviour could only be noticed in Pasma5. When > using XFCE or LXQT on the same computer, everything is working fine. > > I do not know, what plugin or module of Plasma5 is related to this > issue. > > If someone knows more, it would be nice, if he could file a bugreport > to the developer. > > Please feel free to ask for any mor information. > > Best regards > > Hans Hi Hans! No, I canot confirm the issue. Here on Bookworm (sid - unstable) with KDE Plasma 5.27.2 I tried a USB3 Stick with a KNOPPIX system on it. It was recognized, mounted, unmounted. Removed and connected again and every time it was recognized. Then I tried an old USB2 stick. It was recognized but could not be mounted. It had many partitions on it. Then it dawned on me: I had put an OpenBSD system on that one. So that was to be expected. Cleaned the partitioning so it appeared as sde - no partitions. Then mkfs.vfat so it could be recognized even by a dumb MS-Windows installation. Then tried with your problem description again. It was slower, same as would be expected but recognized and mounted every time. So now what's to do? Is the stick recognized on your system so you can see it with dmesg? It ought to be if it is only a Plasma5 problem and not with the underlying operating system. You say that on the same computer, same OS but other desktop environment it works flawlessly. But anyway: Did you try another stick? Use another USB port? Does it happen on USB3 ports or also on USB2 ports? Same problem? Did it ever work before? I ask because there is still a chance that the stick itself has a problem or the port has. Unfortunately I don't know what might be missing on your Plasma5 installation and I cannot come up with a recommendation off my head.. Maybe you can rummage through the plasma-parts or KDE-parts by means of aptitude and install/try modules/packages which might have a connection with filesystems / external drives etc. Cheers Eike -- Eike Lantzsch KY4PZ / ZP5CGE
Re: What layout should I use to emulate a German keyboard but also be able to type other European characters?
On Donnerstag, 29. Dezember 2022 08:26:48 -03 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Thu, Dec 29, 2022 at 11:09:14AM +, Ottavio Caruso wrote: > > Am 29/12/2022 um 10:59 schrieb Eike Lantzsch KY4PZ: > > > I would need German dead tilde and dead grave > > > acute and one precludes the other. > > > > Thanks. In a nutshell, what's the difference between deal tilde and > > dead acute? > > Dead tilde /also/ makes the tilde key (~) into a dead key, so > you can type ñ, ã and things. With deadgraveacute, only the > ´ and ` keys are "dead keys". > > > BTW, I have standard German layout and I am still able to do the > > French accented vowels: > > > > á é í ó ú ( ´ + vowel) > > > > à è ì ò ù ( SHIFT + ´ + vowel) > > > > It's a pain but doable. > > C'm on. Back Then (TM), where dinosaurs with typewriters roamed > the Earth (I'll stop now ;-) > > Cheers Hihi ... If one is also programming dead tilde and dead acute grave are probably not what one wants. -- Eike Lantzsch KY4PZ / ZP5CGE
Re: What layout should I use to emulate a German keyboard but also be able to type other European characters?
On Donnerstag, 29. Dezember 2022 08:09:14 -03 Ottavio Caruso wrote: > Am 29/12/2022 um 10:59 schrieb Eike Lantzsch KY4PZ: > > I would need German dead tilde and dead grave > > acute and one precludes the other. > > Thanks. In a nutshell, what's the difference between deal tilde and > dead acute? > > BTW, I have standard German layout and I am still able to do the > French accented vowels: > > á é í ó ú ( ´ + vowel) > > à è ì ò ù ( SHIFT + ´ + vowel) > > It's a pain but doable. true but C-cedille and circonflex are not there. That's where dead grave acute comes into play. The circonflex is typed by ' ` and the character. "The usual diacritics[1] are the acute[2] (⟨´⟩, /accent aigu/), the grave[3] (⟨`⟩, /accent grave/), the circumflex[4] (⟨ˆ⟩, /accent circonflexe/), the diaeresis[5] (⟨¨⟩, /tréma/), and the cedilla[6] (⟨¸ ⟩, /cédille/)." Wikipedia The tilde[7] diacritical mark ( ˜ ) above n is occasionally used in French for words and names of Spanish[8] origin that have been incorporated into the language (e.g., /El Niño[9]/). Like the other diacritics, the tilde has no impact on the primary alphabetical order. -- Eike Lantzsch KY4PZ / ZP5CGE [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diacritic [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acute_accent [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grave_accent [4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circumflex [5] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diaeresis_(diacritic) [6] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cedilla [7] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tilde [8] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_language [9] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Ni%C3%B1o
Re: What layout should I use to emulate a German keyboard but also be able to type other European characters?
On Donnerstag, 29. Dezember 2022 07:39:11 -03 Ottavio Caruso wrote: > Hi, > > I live in UK and have a UK QWERTY physical keyboard, but will have to > write a low of documents in German with umlauts, Eszet and so on. > > As you can see from picture: > > https://i.ibb.co/pnPt0qS/Screenshot-at-2022-12-29-10-29-15.png > > I have quite a choice. Will the standard German do the job? > > Incidentally, there's a "QWERTY" option. Is that one used much in > Germany? > > Mit freundlichen Grüßen Unfortunately my experience is that not one size fits all. I have PC105 installed with standard German, also US and Latin American. That is allright for Programming, German documents and Spanish but for Portuguese and French I would need German dead tilde and dead grave acute and one precludes the other. Also C-cedille is missing that would require yet another keyboard layout: Brazilian Portuguese. I do use KCharselect for the idioms I rarely write in if I don't know the character code. Just try it out and see if it fits your typing habits. Installing and deinstalling keyboard layouts is not too time consuming. All the best 2U -- Eike Lantzsch KY4PZ / ZP5CGE
Re: MUD
On Donnerstag, 13. Oktober 2022 10:30:36 -03 mick.crane wrote: > On 2022-10-13 13:03, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > Originally, Multi-User Dungeon. > > > > http://catb.org/esr/jargon/html/M/MUD.html > > > > The one that I saw was set up as a sort of user-extensible text > > adventure > > setting. I don't know how they've evolved since then. > > "up" > "you cannot go that way" > "drop cloak". > "Your wings unfurl" OK, OK, I understand now. Now I definitely can't help. Apologies that my frustration hit Maude, the OP. It's a general thing with mailinglists, Usenet, fora and blogs. This is what I wanted to express: When writing for a global audience ... https://www.simultrans.com/blog/avoiding-acronyms-and-abbreviations-when-writing-content-for-translation[1] https://www.psychologicalscience.org/observer/alienating-the-audience-how-abbreviations-hamper-scientific-communication[2] All the best and have a nice day -- Eike Lantzsch KY4PZ / ZP6CGE Asuncion / Paraguay [1] https://www.simultrans.com/blog/avoiding-acronyms-and-abbreviations-when-writing-content-for-translation [2] https://www.psychologicalscience.org/observer/alienating-the-audience-how-abbreviations-hamper-scientific-communication
Re: MUD
On Donnerstag, 13. Oktober 2022 00:08:35 -03 Maude Summerside wrote: > Hi, > Is there so user of the mailing list who operate or have interest in > MUD style services ? Or even who have some knowledge of solutions > using Unix/Linux based BBS ? > > I'd like to setup such service. > Thanks I'm afraid I can't help here because I know what a BBS is but cannot for the life of me decipher MUD. This was neither of any help: https://www.acronymfinder.com/MUD.html[1] But I know what AQUUA is. Have a nice day -- Eike Lantzsch KY4PZ / ZP6CGE [1] https://www.acronymfinder.com/MUD.html
Re: LibreOffice - any way to recover not saved changes to the file?
On Samstag, 24. September 2022 11:27:24 -04 Charles Curley wrote: > On Sat, 24 Sep 2022 15:50:04 +0100 > > piorunz wrote: > > On 24/09/2022 11:43, Eike Lantzsch KY4PZ wrote: > > > The problem is: if you enabled it and for some reason the backup > > > copy cannot be written, LibreOffice also does not write the > > > original. The warning LibreOffice emits is: "Cannot write backup > > > copy" but it does not tell you that it will not even write the > > > original, even if that *could* be written. > > > > That's very interesting. Where does backup copy is being written? To > > the same folder where original supposed to be? Like Kate text editor > > writes backups as "filename.txt~" in the same folder? > > ~/.config/libreoffice/4/user/backup/ That's like Camelot - "Let's not go there. It's a silly place." Under ~/.config there ought to be config files - not backup files. But just my personal opinion. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder ... > > Incidentally, it won't hurt to prune those files occasionally. +1 All the best Eike
Re: LibreOffice - any way to recover not saved changes to the file?
On Samstag, 24. September 2022 10:50:04 -04 piorunz wrote: > On 24/09/2022 11:43, Eike Lantzsch KY4PZ wrote: > > The problem is: if you enabled it and for some reason the backup > > copy > > cannot be written, LibreOffice also does not write the original. > > The warning LibreOffice emits is: "Cannot write backup copy" but it > > does not tell you that it will not even write the original, even if > > that *could* be written. > > That's very interesting. Where does backup copy is being written? To > the same folder where original supposed to be? Like Kate text editor > writes backups as "filename.txt~" in the same folder? > > > -- > With kindest regards, Piotr. > > ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ > ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Debian - The universal operating system > ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://www.debian.org/ > ⠈⠳⣄ It can be configured under Options - LibreOffice - Paths At the moment I do not recall the default. I put them into /home/username/tmp after the disaster which I experienced once. It is not LibreOffice that is to blame, I think, but KDE in my case. Maybe if working with Gnome it wouldn't happen. I don't know. There is an edge case in KDE which impedes sometimes the write of temp files no matter where you put them. It is difficult to reproduce. It does not have to do with file ownership or the destination being writable. I tried all that. It is a real malfunction - "mal funktioniert's und mal nicht" in German. The part for which I do blame LibreOffice is that, if unable to save the backup copy, it ought to write the original if that can be written at all - which in my case *is possible* even when the temp-file-problem happens. Cheers Eike -- Eike Lantzsch KY4PZ / ZP6CGE
Re: LibreOffice - any way to recover not saved changes to the file?
On Samstag, 24. September 2022 00:11:01 -04 piorunz wrote: > On 24/09/2022 01:38, Eike Lantzsch KY4PZ wrote: > > did you realize that, if the backup copy fails for any reason, also > > the document cannot be saved and thus *all* work is lost? I > > experienced this behaviour recently to my dismay (not to say > > anger). > > I never used Backup copy feature, I just enabled it. Its doing no > harm, right? I never relied on this feature because I never used it. > The problem is: if you enabled it and for some reason the backup copy cannot be written, LibreOffice also does not write the original. The warning LibreOffice emits is: "Cannot write backup copy" but it does not tell you that it will not even write the original, even if that *could* be written. All the best Eike > I intend to rely on normal file save as a first thing, then on > built-in recovery in case of reboots (I use Debian Testing and these > happens when GPU driver freezes, LibreOffice always recover opened > files without fail). As a third thing and last thing I will rely on > backup copy feature which I never used. > Additionally, selected important files are synced via SyncThing with > one year of versioning history. > > > So beware: If you get the warning that the backup copy cannot be > > written, then save your document in another way. E.g. ctrl-a and > > paste it into an editor or whatever so at least you have your text > > safe even without the formatting and whatnot. > > > > This is a very silly behaviour of LibreOffice. If the backup copy > > cannot be written but the document can be written - why not at > > least save the document before closing the LibreOffice Writer? > > Thanks for your advice, I will keep that in mind, although I never > experienced read-only tmp folder or LibreOffice being unable to save > file. > > After this experience I disabled backup copies because it is even > > more dangerous than working without backup copies. The reasons why > > backup copies sometimes cannot be written is very obscure. It seems > > to be a hickup of KDE which affects LibreOffice because similar > > things happen sometimes with Okular which sometimes is unable to > > write its tmp files. > -- > With kindest regards, Piotr. > > ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ > ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Debian - The universal operating system > ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://www.debian.org/ > ⠈⠳⣄ -- Eike Lantzsch KY4PZ / ZP6CGE Ag. Molas Lopez Casilla de Correo 13005 01726 Asuncion / Paraguay SIPgate: +49-4131-9279632 Land-line: +595-21-553984 Cell-phone: +595-971-696909 Skype: eikelan Signal: zp6cge Eike Lantzsch WIRE: @eikelantzsch
Re: LibreOffice - any way to recover not saved changes to the file?
On Freitag, 23. September 2022 09:28:12 -04 piorunz wrote: > On 13/09/2022 20:47, Juan R.D. Silva wrote: > > I was pissed off to find out that autosave is desabled by default. I > > used not to care. Looks like now I want to enable it. > > Same! I just realized that AutoRecovery is disabled by default, and > backup copy feature is also disabled by default. Now I enabled them. > > But one feature which is built in regardless of these two options is > to recover after crash/reboot, this always worked without touching > any options. Now I have triple defences, built in recovery, > AutoRecovery every 10 minutes and backup copy. :) > > > -- > With kindest regards, Piotr. > > ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ > ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Debian - The universal operating system > ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://www.debian.org/ > ⠈⠳⣄ Hi Piotr, did you realize that, if the backup copy fails for any reason, also the document cannot be saved and thus *all* work is lost? I experienced this behaviour recently to my dismay (not to say anger). So beware: If you get the warning that the backup copy cannot be written, then save your document in another way. E.g. ctrl-a and paste it into an editor or whatever so at least you have your text safe even without the formatting and whatnot. This is a very silly behaviour of LibreOffice. If the backup copy cannot be written but the document can be written - why not at least save the document before closing the LibreOffice Writer? After this experience I disabled backup copies because it is even more dangerous than working without backup copies. The reasons why backup copies sometimes cannot be written is very obscure. It seems to be a hickup of KDE which affects LibreOffice because similar things happen sometimes with Okular which sometimes is unable to write its tmp files. With kind regards Eike -- Eike Lantzsch KY4PZ / ZP6CGE
Re: about Konqueror
On Dienstag, 13. September 2022 12:15:16 -04 Pierre Frenkiel wrote: > hi, > > how can I search an item in the Konqueror window on Debian? > I tried with / and F3, but that didn't work > best regards Ctrl-F Greetings -- Eike Lantzsch KY4PZ / ZP6CGE
Re: Firefox 104 on Sid unusable because it blanks open tabs after a few minutes
Hi David, thank you for spending your time to ponder and write about my FF problem. I try to answer some of your question below. On Donnerstag, 8. September 2022 11:27:01 -04 David Wright wrote: > On Wed 07 Sep 2022 at 17:52:09 (-0400), Eike Lantzsch KY4PZ wrote: > > On Mittwoch, 7. September 2022 16:23:28 -04 Alex King wrote: > > > On 8/09/22 04:16, Eike Lantzsch KY4PZ wrote: > > > > I admit that I usually have ~ 70 tabs open. > > > > FF does not blank all, just most of them. > > > > Then I have to reload the pages and enter all information again > > > > if > > > > the pages contain forms like snail-mail tracking, tracking of > > > > packages, tracking of processes with the local communications > > > > state > > > > agency, following geomagnetic storms, RF-Propagation, blogs etc > > > > etc. > > So are we to understand that an even greater majority of your tabs > have information entered by you? > Yes that is so, but it is no sensitive information. For example I use to have this dynamic page open. https://www.dxmaps.com/spots/mapg.php?Lan=E=50=M=N[1] If it shows up (out of cache) it sits on 'VHF & up' and on '6m' I change it to 'LF - HF' and '10m'. It then updates the information (spots and daylight) automatically. With this static page, when (or if) it is shown out of cache I Ctrl-R and it does show the updated information of DX-expeditions. That is only necessary once a dayhttps:// www.ng3k.com/Misc/adxo.html[2] But when FF decides to (or stumbles over its feet) blank the page I have to Ctrl-R several times until the page 'stays put'. Several times because if this happens, FF does it again and again for 3 to 4 times. On this government page I used to enter my code 'Código de Expediente' once a day and then, by entering the simple captcha text, am able to see how far my document/form has advanced in the beaurocratic process and in which department it is stuck right now.https://staf-servicios.conatel.gov.py/ConatelJavaEnvironment/servlet/ com.conatel.consultaexp[3] But if FF blanks the page I have to reload and enter the code and then enter another captcha text. Thus FF is causing me more clickety-click-work than necessary. > > > > My time is too valuable to waste it reloading and reloading web > > > > pages > > > > again and again. > > > > It happens with dynamic pages and with static pages. There is no > > > > consistency at all. > > > > > > > > I looked into the FF settings for a setup - but no - there is > > > > nothing > > > > about this behaviour. > > > > > > > > OK, so which browser will I now use instead of Firefox? > > > > > > A couple of FF Extensions you might benefit from: > > > > > > Auto Tab Discard: although it does the opposite of what you want, > > > (I.e. the purpose is to discard or "unload" tabs,) it gives a UI > > > into > > > the settings for when tabs are discarded. (Although I'm on FF > > > 91.13.0esr, and I don't know if it works on FF 104.) > > > > > > Textarea Cache: Allows to save automatically the content in a > > > text > > > input field. Great for retrieving text you wrote into a website, > > > e.g. if the submission failed for some reason. Not sure if it > > > stores text from text input fields on discarded pages or not... > > Does it know the distinguish fields that might contain sensitive > information (like a password)? It does and, provided the page is shown at all, this page used to be shown after startup exactly as I set it. But when FF decides to blank the page I have to reload and adjust the size of the map and the focus again. Also have to click the buttons to get the information of the desired band (range of frequencies) and the modes of modulation. https://pskreporter.info/pskmap.html[4] Tedious to say the least ... especially if this happens several times. > > Opera has a setup option "Snooze inactive tabs to save memory" which > > can be disabled. I didn't find anything similar in the settings of > > FF but > > there is in about:config > > browser.tabs.min_inactive_duration_before_unload > > I am testing this right now with a higer number of seconds (I > > believe that it is set in seconds). > > I just rotated through all ~150 of my FF tabs, and at the end of that, > there are about a dozen FF processes running (top calls them Web > Content). I noticed some of the tabs date from back in March. I > suspect many of the pages redisplayed themselves from cached files > rather than downloading the content again, but I'm just guessing. The
Re: Firefox 104 on Sid unusable because it blanks open tabs after a few minutes
On Mittwoch, 7. September 2022 16:23:28 -04 Alex King wrote: > A couple of FF Extensions you might benefit from: > > Auto Tab Discard: although it does the opposite of what you want, > (I.e. the purpose is to discard or "unload" tabs,) it gives a UI into > the settings for when tabs are discarded. (Although I'm on FF > 91.13.0esr, and I don't know if it works on FF 104.) > > Textarea Cache: Allows to save automatically the content in a text > input field. Great for retrieving text you wrote into a website, e.g. > if the submission failed for some reason. Not sure if it stores text > from text input fields on discarded pages or not... > > Thanks, > Alex > > On 8/09/22 05:10, debian-user-digest-requ...@lists.debian.org wrote: > > Subject: > > Firefox 104 on Sid unusable because it blanks open tabs after a few > > minutes From: > > Eike Lantzsch KY4PZ > > Date: > > 8/09/22, 04:16 > > > > To: > > debian-user@lists.debian.org > > > > > > I admit that I usually have ~ 70 tabs open. > > FF does not blank all, just most of them. > > Then I have to reload the pages and enter all information again if > > the pages contain forms like snail-mail tracking, tracking of > > packages, tracking of processes with the local communications state > > agency, following geomagnetic storms, RF-Propagation, blogs etc > > etc. > > > > My time is too valuable to waste it reloading and reloading web > > pages > > again and again. > > It happens with dynamic pages and with static pages. There is no > > consistency at all. > > > > I looked into the FF settings for a setup - but no - there is > > nothing > > about this behaviour. > > > > OK, so which browser will I now use instead of Firefox? > > > > have a nice day > > Eike > > -- > > Eike Lantzsch KY4PZ Opera has a setup option "Snooze inactive tabs to save memory" which can be disabled. I didn't find anything similar in the settings of FF but there is in about:config browser.tabs.min_inactive_duration_before_unload I am testing this right now with a higer number of seconds (I believe that it is set in seconds). Weird thing is that FF tends to unload the tabs agressively when starting to use the browser but later when I've gone through the process of reloading the pages and filling in requested data, adjusting the focus of maps and whatnot *several times* then it seems to succumb to the will of the user and maintain the pages loaded. Absolutely weird behaviour ... Textarea Cache is a fine extension for what it's worth and for what it's intended but unfortunately does not help in my usecase (entering package codes, adjusting maps for size and focus, filling forms of state agencies. It does not even cache the text entered on WhatsApp or Google Translate. Answer is "No cache here". Anyway I leave it installed because the possibility to save text comes in handy when e.g. answering to blog posts. Thanks again All the best Eike -- Eike Lantzsch KY4PZ / ZP6CGE
Re: Firefox 104 on Sid unusable because it blanks open tabs after a few minutes
On Mittwoch, 7. September 2022 16:23:28 -04 Alex King wrote: > A couple of FF Extensions you might benefit from: > > Auto Tab Discard: although it does the opposite of what you want, > (I.e. the purpose is to discard or "unload" tabs,) it gives a UI into > the settings for when tabs are discarded. (Although I'm on FF > 91.13.0esr, and I don't know if it works on FF 104.) > > Textarea Cache: Allows to save automatically the content in a text > input field. Great for retrieving text you wrote into a website, e.g. > if the submission failed for some reason. Not sure if it stores text > from text input fields on discarded pages or not... > > Thanks, > Alex Dear Alex, definitely I'm going to try both extensions and then report back. Will try Textarea Cache first and Auto Tab Discard independently next. Thank you! de Eike > > On 8/09/22 05:10, debian-user-digest-requ...@lists.debian.org wrote: > > Subject: > > Firefox 104 on Sid unusable because it blanks open tabs after a few > > minutes From: > > Eike Lantzsch KY4PZ > > Date: > > 8/09/22, 04:16 > > > > To: > > debian-user@lists.debian.org > > > > > > I admit that I usually have ~ 70 tabs open. > > FF does not blank all, just most of them. > > Then I have to reload the pages and enter all information again if > > the pages contain forms like snail-mail tracking, tracking of > > packages, tracking of processes with the local communications state > > agency, following geomagnetic storms, RF-Propagation, blogs etc > > etc. > > > > My time is too valuable to waste it reloading and reloading web > > pages > > again and again. > > It happens with dynamic pages and with static pages. There is no > > consistency at all. > > > > I looked into the FF settings for a setup - but no - there is > > nothing > > about this behaviour. > > > > OK, so which browser will I now use instead of Firefox? > > > > have a nice day > > Eike -- Eike Lantzsch KY4PZ / ZP6CGE
Firefox 104 on Sid unusable because it blanks open tabs after a few minutes
I admit that I usually have ~ 70 tabs open. FF does not blank all, just most of them. Then I have to reload the pages and enter all information again if the pages contain forms like snail-mail tracking, tracking of packages, tracking of processes with the local communications state agency, following geomagnetic storms, RF-Propagation, blogs etc etc. My time is too valuable to waste it reloading and reloading web pages again and again. It happens with dynamic pages and with static pages. There is no consistency at all. I looked into the FF settings for a setup - but no - there is nothing about this behaviour. OK, so which browser will I now use instead of Firefox? have a nice day Eike -- Eike Lantzsch KY4PZ
Re: Rant: The need for books to document things (was: Re: Virtual Machines)
On Montag, 22. August 2022 14:47:15 -04 Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Mon, Aug 22, 2022 at 01:58:57PM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Monday, August 22, 2022 08:50:02 AM Tom Browder wrote: > > > Can anyone recommend a good book on the general topic of VMs? Or > > > one on a specific VM stack (using Linux as base)? > > > > At this point, I've requested two books on the subject (by > > inter-library loan) -- one about 700 pages, the other about 280 > > (iirc) pages. > > > > It just seems documentation ought to be better / simpler / easier to > > use than that. > > You could do worse than the original O'Reilly book on SSH. > I'd recommend: SSH Mastery OpenSSH, PuTTY, Tunnels and Keys by Michael W Lucas Tilted Windmill Press https://www.tiltedwindmillpress.com/product/ssh-mastery-2nd-edition/[1] regards Eike [1] https://www.tiltedwindmillpress.com/product/ssh-mastery-2nd-edition/
Re: illustration software
On Freitag, 12. August 2022 09:18:40 -04 lina wrote: > On Fri, Aug 12, 2022 at 12:06 PM piorunz wrote: > > On 12/08/2022 10:08, lina wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I want to make a small booklet about my baby with few cartoon > > > pictures, like dance octopus, a cut baby, ect. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is there any software I can use to have the picture as they draw > > > in a > > > children's book? > > > > > > Thanks very much, lina > > > > cut baby? > > Oh yeah, so cute, I am a total slave to it, and I am looking forwards > my liberation once school starts. > Liberation? Mothers are always mothers. That never stops, if mother wants or does not - or if son wants or does not ;-) To answer your question: Would KDE Krita fill your bill? Or Impress of Libreoffice? Also my kindest regards Eike (a son of 70) > > Jokes aside, I'd try search: > > https://metager.org/meta/meta.ger3?eingabe=illustration+software+lin > > ux > > > > First link provides names for good software you can try, also third > > link, just as good. > > > > -- > > With kindest regards, Piotr. > > > > ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ > > ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Debian - The universal operating system > > ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://www.debian.org/ > > ⠈⠳⣄
Re: google account say it will no longer deliver email
On Mittwoch, 11. Mai 2022 09:25:34 -04 Fero Dali wrote: > I got a warning from google that my account will be discontinued. > > > On May 30, you may lose access to apps that are using less secure > > sign-in technology > > To help keep your account secure, Google will no longer support the > > use of third-party apps or devices which ask you to sign in to your > > Google Account using only your username and password. Instead, > > you’ll need to sign in using Sign in with Google > > I have used a google account to read email from mailing lists. I am > using fetchmail to get emails from google. Now it says it will > discontinue this access to my mail. I do not want to use webmail (I > need to receive my mail on my computer). Is there a way to somehow > download emails from gmail as I used to after May 30? > > Thanks Please read the archives on this mailing list to receive an in-depth-answer: fetchmail-us...@lists.sourceforge.net All the best to you Eike
Re: [SOLVED] Re: One-user system.
On Freitag, 6. Mai 2022 13:11:13 -04 Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, May 06, 2022 at 09:24:35AM -0700, pe...@easthope.ca wrote: > > What I'm doing is similar to using DOS years ago; although DOS > > predates experience of most people reading now. > > I think you're vastly underestimating the average age of subscribers > on this list. yeah, I started with CP/M on Z80 First touch on a "computer" -keyboard was on a WANG 600 series ... -- Eike Lantzsch ZP6CGE
Re: how many W a PSU for non-gaming Debian?
On Freitag, 4. März 2022 15:04:26 -03 Emanuel Berg wrote: > OK, final word on this, "case" closed LOL :) > > Thanks a lot for the help ... > > Conclusion: a 300W PSU should do it! "might do it" If (= provided that) you can trust the manufacturer for that statement "300W PS". I tend to be wary of such statements. The maximum current provided for each voltage output would be more significant than the wholesale advertisement of "300W PS". Your calculation might be well within the limits in general but what if the load for e.g. 3.3V goes up to 12A but the PS is only able to deliver 10A? It might be well able to deliver 20A for 5V and 8A for 12V but your load does not need 5V or so much at 12V but more on 3.3V or even 1.8V. So be careful and have a look at each needed supply voltage and its power rating. > > GPU geforce-gt-710 19 [on which voltages?] > CPU AMD mid end (4 cores) 125 [on which voltages?] > fans 80 mm (3K RPM) 9 (3*3W = 9W) [12V] > 120 mm (2K RPM) 12 (2*6W = 12W) [12V] > motherboard high end80 [that is on several diiferent voltages] > RAM ~DDR3 (1.5V) 3 (actually it is a DDR4) [on which voltages?] > SSD 2.8 [5V and maybe 12V] > > Total: > > (+ 19 125 (* 3 3) (* 2 6) 80 3 2.8) ; 250 W > > Total, with the GPU removed: > > (+ 125 (* 3 3) (* 2 6) 80 3 2.8) ; 231 W > > Total, with 25% wiggle room: > > (* 1.25 (+ 19 125 (* 3 3) (* 2 6) 80 3 2.8)) ; 314 W > > Total, w/o the GPU, w/ wiggle room: > > (* 1.25 (+ 125 (* 3 3) (* 2 6) 80 3 2.8)); 290 W > > https://www.buildcomputers.net/power-consumption-of-pc-components.html > https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-gt-710.c1990 all by rule of thumb - and it's a very thick thumb with carpal tunnel syndrome I reckon. -- Eike Lantzsch ZP6CGE
Re: Wine fails because of missing libgcc_s_dw2-1.dll
On Donnerstag, 3. März 2022 12:17:37 -03 Miguel A. Vallejo wrote: > Thank you! > > I filled a bug report. Let's see what happens now. Just because I mentioned installing DLLs by means of winetricks: beware of using winetricks in this situation. Obviously it installs DLLs which are not compatible with the current wine packages. After trying this I had some Win-programs coming up nicely, or even better than before the Debian Sid updates but went haywire when they started their own update routines of data. Trying to resolve this and by using wintricks for some DLLs I now managed to have the programs start and appear as running applications but they are not showing any windows in X11 - duh ... -- Eike Lantzsch ZP6CGE
Re: Wine fails because of missing libgcc_s_dw2-1.dll
On Mittwoch, 2. März 2022 18:34:22 -03 Miguel A. Vallejo wrote:
> Hello!
>
> Finding and placing missing DLLs into the Windows directory of Wine is
> easy.
>
> I think the problem is the windows executables in wine have not been
> compiled with the -static-libgcc option of MinGW, so not including all
> these libgcc DDLs can be considered a bug itself.
>
> But compiling it without -static-libgcc can be considered a bug also.
>
> This is why I'm asking.
We are talking about closed source here, don't we? I don't see any
straight forward way to know how the programs have been compiled except
reverse engineering. Not going to do that. Contacting the provider of
the Windows-Programs IMHO would not help either because "it works on xxx
version of MS-Windows".
If the problem is a bug or changes in Wine (6.0.2 is a development
version - no?) Wine-HQ would be the right place to ask, I think.
Either way debian-users does not seem to be the right mailing list for
this kind of problems.
Unless this is a packaging problem ("...repack..."?) but I don't know.
I can't help I'm afraid.
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Re: Wine fails because of missing libgcc_s_dw2-1.dll
On Mittwoch, 2. März 2022 16:01:09 -03 Miguel A. Vallejo wrote: > Hello > > After the recent update of Wine packages in Sid, some programs do not > run because of a missing libgcc_s_dw2-1.dll. They all worked just fine > with the previous version. > > ~$ wine SpaceEngine.exe > 014c:err:module:import_dll Library libgcc_s_dw2-1.dll (which is needed > by L"Z:\\home\\eoz\\Programs\\SpaceEngine\\system\\zlib1.dll") not > found > 014c:err:module:import_dll Loading library zlib1.dll (which is needed > by L"Z:\\home\\eoz\\Programs\\SpaceEngine\\system\\libtiff3.dll") > failed ( > error c07b). > 014c:err:module:import_dll Library libtiff3.dll (which is needed by > L"Z:\\home\\eoz\\Programs\\SpaceEngine\\system\\SpaceEngine.exe") not > found > 014c:err:module:LdrInitializeThunk Importing dlls for > L"Z:\\home\\eoz\\Programs\\SpaceEngine\\system\\SpaceEngine.exe" > failed, status c135 > > I looked in my backups and I never had any libgcc_s_dw2-1.dll > installed in my system, but now it seems to be needed. > > Any ideas? Thanks in advance Hi Hello! When I didn't find libgcc_s_dw2-1.dll at first, installing the other missing libraries by using winetricks I was able to start my applications at least. Start with zlib1.dll - that is in winetricks. Then copy the other libraries into the pertinent folders of your windows folder of your wine installation. libgcc_s_dw2-1.dll can be found here https://www.sts-tutorial.com/download/start/Mjc2NA==[1] and libtiff3.dll can be faound herehttps://everydll.com/gnuwin32/libtiff3-dll/#download-dll[2] Google is your friend - this time - ..._ _.__ __... ...__ -- Eike Lantzsch ZP6CGE [1] https://www.sts-tutorial.com/download/start/Mjc2NA== [2] https://everydll.com/gnuwin32/libtiff3-dll/#download-dll
Re: Identity Theft
On Dienstag, 21. Dezember 2021 09:43:42 -03 Kenneth Parker wrote: > On Tue, Dec 21, 2021, 3:15 AM local10 wrote: > > Dec 21, 2021, 02:13 by jer...@ardley.org: > > > You can mitigate XSS by having a single browser that is used > > > solely to> > > access high value sites. e.g. if you routinely run Firefox, have a > > copy of Vivaldi that you use to access your banks - one at a time. > > > > > > > > Installing NoScript also may help as it has an option to sanitize > > cross-site suspicious requests. NoScript also speeds up the browser > > by disabling all the tracking and spying scripts many sites load > > nowadays. Just make sure to disable all the garbage it has enabled > > by default after the installation. > > +1 on NoScript. I particularly like the White List capabilities, > where you can allow Scripts by Website, and even only one time. I > only know it to work with Firefox, at this time. > > Kenneth Parker Is this *No-Script Suite Lite by AdblockLite[1]* (this one has a whitelist feature) or *NoScript Security Suite by Giorgio Maone[2]* (has a whitelist feature too) or other? I'm using Privicy Badger among other means like limiting and redirecting DNS requests. But that does not avoid JS. Cheers Eike [1] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/user/11285580/ [2] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/user/143/
Re: Then it happened to me...
On Sonntag, 10. Oktober 2021 05:47:14 -03 piorunz wrote: > On 10/10/2021 08:48, Brad Rogers wrote: > > On Sun, 10 Oct 2021 08:33:03 +0100 > > piorunz wrote: > > > > Hello piorunz, > > > >> Isn't it time to switch to online forums? > > > > No. 'Newer' = 'better' is a false equivalency. > > First online forums were created, in fact, in 70s. Is that new to you? > Also, forums don't suffer "you have been unsubscribed" problem. If > they are not better, according to you, can you explain why not? > > -- > With kindest regards, Piotr. > > ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ > ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Debian - The universal operating system > ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://www.debian.org > ⠈⠳⣄ Hi Piotr, from a user perspective: Fora are only good for people with just one single interest. For people with multiple interests having to be subscribed to multiple fora is a hassle and getting to know all the different ways they work is a nightmare. To save myself time I mostly take advantage of letting fora of interest send articles as email. If they allow posting via email I appreciate that. So what's the advantage of a forum? I mean: for me? Usenet anybody? Just one newsreader to rule them all, killfile etc ... regards Eike ZP6CGE
Re: Dragon Player doesn't
On Dienstag, 7. September 2021 13:04:50 -04 Gary Dale wrote: > I don't use Dragon Player normally but I was looking at it just now. > When I right-click on a video file, select play with then choose > Dragon Player to play it, it launches Dragon Player but doesn't play > the file. When I select Play File from within Dragon Player, I can > select a video to play, but again it doesn't play it. > > Has anyone else experienced this problem and/or come across a fix for > it? I can only say that on Debian unstable (Bookworm) it plays the video but no audio while VLC plays video and audio. I didn't bother to look into the audio problem, however. -- Eike Lantzsch ZP6CGE
Re: APT testing and unstabe Firefox: can't find newest version from unstable
On Samstag, 4. September 2021 07:50:19 -04 Daniel M. wrote: > To my understanding, unstable has 91.0.1-1 and experimental has > 91.0.1-2 as seen in https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/firefox. Unstable here still with 88.0.1-1 not 91... same as OP Have no time neither today nor tomorrow to look into prob. -- Eike Lantzsch ZP6CGE
Re: Network down incorrect........
On Samstag, 28. August 2021 09:38:44 -04 Charlie wrote: > From my keyboard: > > Hello all, > > Since Bullseye went stable, updated on my 12 month old HP > laptop. When attempting to bring up the wireless interface with > ifup. > > The message on the screen tells me the "network is down", which is > incorrect. Because on another Bullseye machine it works perfectly. as > it did on this one before it went stable. > > It gives the message: > > RTNETLINK answers: Operation not possible due to RF-kill > > Then tries to connect for about 12 or so tries. > > I have not installed rfkill, and can't find it to uninstall it. > > On the web there is a reference to this "RTNETLINK answers: Operation > not possible due to RF-kill" on Archlinux where it was solved by > bringing the BIOS back to default. I tried that, but temporarily > locked myself out of the system. Then asking me to install an > operating system on the hard drive. I brought that back buy returning > the BIOS to when it booted the system. > > I can use the Ethernet port and cable to connect to the internet with > that machine, however, did connect wirelessly when Bullseye was > testing. > > Any pointers would be appreciated. > > TIA, > Charlie > > East Gippsland Wildlife Rehabilitators Inc.. >http://www.egwildlife.com.au/ rfkill is a Linux device the program rfkill is not necessarily installed but it might help you to identify the underlying problem. A shot into the dark: This smells like a firmware problem. -- Eike Lantzsch ZP6CGE
Re: Issues with Bullseye
On Sonntag, 15. August 2021 05:36:54 -04 Hans wrote: > Dear list, > > since the release of bullseye I got into two issues. > > 1. the pgp-key of the repo are no more valid. > > Is there a new one? How to get? > > 2. deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main contrib > non-free is not reachable. > > Is it down? How can it be fixed? > > Another thing besides this: I am wondering, why the debian > documentation differs between http and https at the entries for the > security and the normal packages. I would have been expected, that > all entries are using https, and no more http. Any special reoson for > it or is it just a forgotten change? > > Best regards > > Hans Hi Hans! Hope you are well 1) you need to copy the keys into /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d there is no apt-keyring package anymore see here: *5.3.2. Deprecated components for bullseye* With the next release of Debian 12 (codenamed bookworm) some features will be deprecated. Users will need to migrate to other alternatives to prevent trouble when updating to Debian 12. This includes the following features: * The historical justifications for the filesystem layout with */bin*, */sbin*, and */ lib* directories separate from their equivalents under */usr* no longer apply today; see the Freedesktop.org summary[1]. Debian bullseye will be the last Debian release that supports the non-merged-usr layout; for systems with a legacy layout that have been upgraded without a reinstall, the *usrmerge* package exists to do the conversion if desired. * bullseye is the final Debian release to ship *apt-key*. Keys should be managed by dropping files into */etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d* instead, in binary format as created by *gpg -- export* with a *.gpg* extension, or ASCII armored with a *.asc* extension. A replacement for *apt-key list* to manually investigate the keyring is planned, but work has not started yet. 2) see here: *Clint Adams: upgrayedd[2]* *Date:*14.08.21 07:27 [3] Mom, When you upgrade to bullseye, you need[4] to change your security source from deb http://security.debian.org/ buster/updates main to deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bullseye-security main However, that will silently fail to work if you forget to update the file in /etc/apt/ preferences.d to add something like this stanza: Explanation: Debian security Package: * Pin: release o=Debian,n=bullseye-security Pin-Priority: 990 Posted on 2021-08-14 Tags: quanks[5] and here: *5.1.3. Changed security archive layout* For bullseye, the security suite is now named *bullseye-security* instead of */codename// updates* and users should adapt their APT source-list files accordingly when upgrading. The security line in your APT configuration may look like: deb https://deb.debian.org/debian-security bullseye-security main contrib If your APT configuration also involves pinning or *APT::Default-Release*, it is likely to require adjustments as the codename of the security archive no longer matches that of the regular archive. An example of a working *APT::Default-Release* line for bullseye looks like: APT::Default-Release "/^bullseye(|-security|-updates)$/"; which takes advantage of the undocumented feature of APT that it supports regular expressions (inside */*). Cheers Eike ZP6CGE [1] https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/TheCaseForTheUsrMerge [2] https://xana.scru.org/posts/quanks/bullseye.html [3] http://planet.debian.org/heads/clint.png [4] https://www.debian.org/releases/bullseye/amd64/release-notes/ch-information.en.html#security-archive [5] https://xana.scru.org/tags/quanks.html
Re: Off request
On Freitag, 6. August 2021 18:36:08 -04 Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > Hi, > > On 2021-08-06 5:10 p.m., Gunnar Gervin wrote: > > GOODBYE ! > > > > Admin of list: > > Please remove me from the list. > > If you want to be removed, then you can unsubscribe. > The procedure is found at the same place you found information on how > to subscribe. > > I don't the the manager of this list does take the time to read all > the mailing lists of Debian. > > > If you don't, I'll spam you. Why? > > A person accused me of trolling. Which I'm not sure what is. > > Flooding, > I'll remind yourself that even you, at some point looked back at the > messages you've sent and said "What a mess". > > https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2021/08/msg00137.html > > It is appreciated that you now seem to be taking time to write text > that can easily be understood. > > I'm pretty sure that if you would have took the time to write concise > and clear message like this all the time, then you experience would > have been different. > > > spamming, attention seeking? He could just as well said "*f* off" , > > just saying. So I'm off this list, doubt I'll return. > > I dislike slandering; vulnerable > > due to psychopath in childhood, isolation, & cos people are afraid & > > tense these times. Guess he was a bit quick on it... > > Hostile, Judgemental, non- inclusive. Don't need those cultures in > > my > > I believe everyone here acted in good faith. > > Taking time to explain what felt like being the wrong way and what > could be done if you wanted some more help. > > To all questions you posted, you received at least two or three > different answer, with different solutions. > > > life, sir, sorry to tell you off this harshly. Going to other > > helpsite if necessary. Like pointed before, in duckduckgo & Google > > I can find most answers. > > My responsibilty is my health. > > BR, > > Gunnar Gervin. > > Good luck in you learning. Reminds me of one occasion when someone was harshly attacked on a mailing list for writing all capitals - always. Turned out that the person was blind and had crippled hands and was posting by means of a braille reader and a special contraption for a keyboard. *That* was a time to eat one's words. All the best to y'all -- Eike Lantzsch ZP6CGE
Re: Didn't mean to derail (Vulkan with Radeon RX 5700 XT)
On Samstag, 10. Juli 2021 09:13:57 -04 Brian Thompson wrote: > On Sat, 2021-07-10 at 14:57 +0200, tv.deb...@googlemail.com wrote: > > This is not the point of the OP message, so let's not derail > > I apologize for accidentally derailing. I should have started a new > thread. I'm still relatively new to the Debian community. No problem - AMTRAK always derails and still runs. If it is a matter of tracks or a matter of running stock or a matter of cars or trucks passing level passings with lights flashing is a moot question. People here on debian-user use to derail all the time. q.e.d. Eike -- Eike Lantzsch ZP6CGE
Re: vim not seeing many Unicode chars
On Dienstag, 18. Mai 2021 13:04:00 -04 hdv@gmail wrote: > On 2021-05-18 18:37, IL Ka wrote: > > Thanks all. I looked at my config files (which go back at least > > 15 > > years) and found lots of explicitly setting both LC_ALL=C and > > LC_LANG=C. > > > > Should I remove all, or just remove the LC_ALL? > > > > > > Using LC_ALL is strongly discouraged as it overrides everything. > > > > Please use it only when testing and never set it in a startup file. > > https://wiki.debian.org/Locale <https://wiki.debian.org/Locale> > > > > It is better to set everything explicitly in "/etc/default/locale" > > > > Even better: use > > $ sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales > > it will generate all locales you need AND set the default one in > > this file. > > > > There is NO reason to use anything except UTF-8 in 2021 > > Please, be aware that not all Desktop Environments (like KDE's Plasma) > honour this setting. Often, they have their own mechanisms for > setting the locale within the DE itself. > > Grx HdV To noboy in particular: Yes, that is so and for whatever reasons there might be, it is extremely confusing causing frustration, despair and eventually anger. It is especially exasperating if one works with several DE which, contrary to the underlying distribution, also change their behaviour once in awhile. I used to have en_US language with German keyboard and SA-paraguaian monetary symbols. That is an edge-case which worked fine for many years but recently gives me trouble with KDE and also Perl. Cheers to everybody on the list -- Eike Lantzsch ZP6CGE
Re: Installing Debian 10.9 Buster on iMac G5 (powerpc)
On Sonntag, 2. Mai 2021 13:29:47 -04 didier gaumet wrote: > Le 02/05/2021 à 16:43, Greg Wooledge a écrit : > > On Sun, May 02, 2021 at 04:38:21PM +0200, didier gaumet wrote: > >> From what I understand (If I understand correctly), your processor > >> is a>> > >> powerpc64 Big Indian, not a powerpc64 Little Indian [...] > > > > That's "Endian", not "Indian". > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endianness > > Thank you Greg, but I promise you, Your Honor, I'm not guilty, for the > life of me ;-) > > In this case, I did know the concept and its correct spelling but: > - being absent-minded by nature > - thinking in english (I have almost wrote "inglish") > - but unconsciously verifying spelling in french (my native language) > while writing > - and being guilty of not re-reading myself before posting > > You have there a perfect recipe for a disaster ;-) That is cute and it reminds me of Peter Sellers in "The Party" ... talking of little Indians and disasters ...
Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy)
On Sonntag, 2. Mai 2021 07:20:03 -04 Michael Lange wrote: > Hi, > > On Sun, 02 May 2021 12:57:59 +0200 > deloptes wrote: > > (...) > > > I'm sorry guys, but DDG is another joke. For example I wanted to > > know > > what is Stieglitz in German - it is kind of bird, but I wanted to > > know how it looks like. DDG results did not even come close to a > > bird. > this I cannot reproduce here. Searching for "Stieglitz" DDG shows me > as the first result https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stieglitz , > followed by other bird-related pages in German. Switching to DDG's > image search I get a whole page with photos of these cute beasts. > > Regards > > Michael > same here and "Stieglitz bird" brings up photos of the bird, the translation into "European Goldfinch" and the link to "European Goldfinch - Wikipedia". It all seems to require a little bit more effort to put into the search to get what I want from DDG while I usually have to put more effort into Google-searches to tell Google that I don't want what it "thinks" that I want - e.g. it "thinks" that I want everything in Spanish and seems to ignore completely that the country of my residence is a multilingual country with at least 4 main languages and many others, which are natively spoken by significant parts of the population. But as soon as I succeed convincing Google that I want English or Dutch or German or Portuguese then I am able to extract what I want. In this line National Geographic is far worse than Google. Just for once try to get an English edition subscription in a country which NatGeo considers Spanish-speaking. Cheers Eike -- Eike Lantzsch ZP6CGE 01726 Asuncion / Paraguay
Re: Boot better have mounted on root or /boot ?
On Donnerstag, 8. April 2021 02:15:00 -04 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Jo, 08 apr 21, 08:55:47, Robbi Nespu wrote: > > I use auto partitioning (if not mistaken) and boot mounted on root > > "/" instead of creating own "/boot" partition > > > > $ df -h /boot/ > > Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on > > /dev/sda1 110G 62G 43G 60% / > > > > What actually the best way for boot directory? put on same root > > directory like I have right now or it better to have it own > > partition? > The "best" way depends a lot on the criteria used to evaluate. > > For me the simplicity of having 'boot' on '/' wins in most cases. It > avoids a lot of issues (like running out of space in /boot) with no > significant downside I'm aware of. > > I've used a separate boot only when there was no way around it, e.g. > the original RaspberryPi needs a FAT /boot partition. > > Kind regards, > Andrei With my setups it is far more likely that / fills up than /boot so having a separate /boot partition at least allows me to boot and solve the problem easily. On the other hand in this case booting from another disk or USB-stick is possible but a wee bit more uncomfortable. As you brought in the case of Raspberries: with today's available disk space there is no reason to be frugal with /boot space except if one has to make do with an SD-card or internal NAND memory. I'd say: if you plan to use your setup for many years without reinstalling, you are better off with separate partitions with well planned sizes. If you reinstall more often (like once or twice a year) put all on one partition. Should it turn out that you use that computer for many years without reinstallation but upgrade - upgrade - upgrade and you need more diskspace for /var or /usr add a disk or two. Caveat: your installation will become somewhat baroque. Power consumption is another concern. Eventually it all boils down to one's ability to predict the future or at least a subset thereof. Cheers Eike
Re: Sudo ... use or delete?
On Friday, 29 January 2021 12:42:19 -03 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 08:12:20AM -0700, Antonio Russo wrote: > > [...] > > > But, more specifically to your question about sudo, let me argue > > that, at the level of paranoia required to be worried about sudo, > > you should also be worried about a LOT of other packages [...] > > I do appreciate and use sudo -- for me it reduces embarrasing > fat-finger mistakes significantly. > > But it's not everyone cup of tea, and to be fair, there's one > current privilege escalation vulnerability [1] around. It seems > easily fixable (Debian has a fixed version out, if you do use > sudo, check with [2]). > > So if you aren't using , it's wise to not install . > Complexity kills :-) > > Cheers > Hi, IMHO sudo within itself is not dangerous but the user/admin is. Sudo has a huge potential to be misconfigured and as a consequence to break down all and every safety barrier. Sudo is a very good tool - to shoot oneself into the foot. Good read: Sudo Mastery by Michael W. Lucas Cheers to y'all -- Eike Lantzsch ZP6CGE
Re: FileZilla / ftp / GnuTLS error connecting to sites with Testing/Bullseye
On Wednesday, 13 January 2021 17:33:12 -03 Gary Dale wrote: > On 2021-01-13 14:54, Eike Lantzsch wrote: > > On Wednesday, 13 January 2021 16:42:17 -03 Gary Dale wrote: > >> On 2021-01-12 22:53, Philip Wyett wrote: > >>> On Tue, 2021-01-12 at 21:27 -0500, Gary Dale wrote: > >>>> I'm running Debian/Bullseye on an AMD64 machine. > >>>> > >>>> I'm trying to update a site using FileZilla with the same > >>>> settings > >>>> I've > >>>> been using but cannot get a connection. I've tried this on > >>>> several > >>>> sites > >>>> with the same results. Here's the FileZilla dialogue of a session > >>>> connect attempt: > >>>> > >>>> Status:Resolving address of > >>>> Status:Connecting to :21... > >>>> Status:Connection established, waiting for welcome message... > >>>> Status:Initializing TLS... > >>>> Status:Verifying certificate... > >>>> Status:TLS connection established. > >>>> Status:Server does not support non-ASCII characters. > >>>> Status:Logged in > >>>> Status:Retrieving directory listing of "/"... > >>>> Command:CWD / > >>>> Response:250 OK. Current directory is / > >>>> Command:PWD > >>>> Response:257 "/" is your current location > >>>> Command:TYPE I > >>>> Response:200 TYPE is now 8-bit binary > >>>> Command:PASV > >>>> Response:227 Entering Passive Mode (,141,8). > >>>> Command:MLSD > >>>> Response:150 Accepted data connection > >>>> Error:GnuTLS error -15: An unexpected TLS packet was > >>>> received. > >>>> Error:The data connection could not be established: > >>>> ECONNABORTED > >>>> - > >>>> Connection aborted > >>>> Response:226 72 matches total > >>>> Error:Failed to retrieve directory listing > >>>> > >>>> at which point the connection seems to be severed by FileZilla. > >>>> > >>>> When I try a command line ftp session, I also find that I cannot > >>>> do > >>>> an > >>>> "ls" after logging in. > >>>> > >>>> However I can connect from my server which is running > >>>> Debian/Buster. > >>>> Something seems to be going wrong with GnuTLS once the connection > >>>> is > >>>> established on Bullseye. This is a new behaviour as it wasn't > >>>> doing > >>>> this > >>>> last week. > >>> > >>> Hi Gary, > >>> > >>> I can confirm this issue. > >>> > >>> Please file a bug report against filezilla and it will be looked > >>> into > >>> by myself once 3.52.0.5 has transitioned into unstable (imminent). > >>> > >>> Regards > >>> > >>> Phil > >> > >> I don't think it is just a FileZilla problem as it also seems to > >> crop > >> up with the command-line ftp program. > > > > You might also try lftp. But since it seems to be a TLS problem the > > result might be the same. > > Does TLS work when you download mail with your mail-client? > > > > Kind regards > > Eike > > -- > > Eike Lantzsch ZP6CGE > > I already did the ftp command, as noted in the initial e-mail. No, I don't think you did what I recommended. I wrote lftp. ELL-EFF-TEE-PEE That is a totally different program and far more potent than ftp. > Ftp > connects but can't get a remote directory listing, without which it > can't seem to transfer files. Things work with Buster but not with > Bullseye. > > I'm not having any problems with Thunderbird (my e-mail client) with > accounts connecting through SSL/TLS and StartTLS. -- Eike Lantzsch ZP6CGE
Re: FileZilla / ftp / GnuTLS error connecting to sites with Testing/Bullseye
On Wednesday, 13 January 2021 16:42:17 -03 Gary Dale wrote: > On 2021-01-12 22:53, Philip Wyett wrote: > > On Tue, 2021-01-12 at 21:27 -0500, Gary Dale wrote: > >> I'm running Debian/Bullseye on an AMD64 machine. > >> > >> I'm trying to update a site using FileZilla with the same settings > >> I've > >> been using but cannot get a connection. I've tried this on several > >> sites > >> with the same results. Here's the FileZilla dialogue of a session > >> connect attempt: > >> > >> Status:Resolving address of > >> Status:Connecting to :21... > >> Status:Connection established, waiting for welcome message... > >> Status:Initializing TLS... > >> Status:Verifying certificate... > >> Status:TLS connection established. > >> Status:Server does not support non-ASCII characters. > >> Status:Logged in > >> Status:Retrieving directory listing of "/"... > >> Command:CWD / > >> Response:250 OK. Current directory is / > >> Command:PWD > >> Response:257 "/" is your current location > >> Command:TYPE I > >> Response:200 TYPE is now 8-bit binary > >> Command:PASV > >> Response:227 Entering Passive Mode (,141,8). > >> Command:MLSD > >> Response:150 Accepted data connection > >> Error:GnuTLS error -15: An unexpected TLS packet was received. > >> Error:The data connection could not be established: > >> ECONNABORTED > >> - > >> Connection aborted > >> Response:226 72 matches total > >> Error:Failed to retrieve directory listing > >> > >> at which point the connection seems to be severed by FileZilla. > >> > >> When I try a command line ftp session, I also find that I cannot do > >> an > >> "ls" after logging in. > >> > >> However I can connect from my server which is running > >> Debian/Buster. > >> Something seems to be going wrong with GnuTLS once the connection > >> is > >> established on Bullseye. This is a new behaviour as it wasn't doing > >> this > >> last week. > > > > Hi Gary, > > > > I can confirm this issue. > > > > Please file a bug report against filezilla and it will be looked > > into > > by myself once 3.52.0.5 has transitioned into unstable (imminent). > > > > Regards > > > > Phil > > I don't think it is just a FileZilla problem as it also seems to crop > up with the command-line ftp program. You might also try lftp. But since it seems to be a TLS problem the result might be the same. Does TLS work when you download mail with your mail-client? Kind regards Eike -- Eike Lantzsch ZP6CGE
Re: dist-upgrade wants to deinstall lots of packages?
On Thursday, 17 September 2020 11:14:30 -04 Hans wrote: > Am Donnerstag, 17. September 2020, 17:01:29 CEST schrieb Joe: > Hi Joe, > > yes I know, this is normal for unstable. I am using debian/testing, > which is close to unstable. > > The point of my message was not the deinstallation of packages at all, > but the deinstallation of packages which are still usefull for people > without a substitute or a substitude with the same ease as the > uninstalled package. > > Think of people, they do an upgrade after 2 years (or earlier) and > their applications are gone. Might be ok for experienced people (who > are experienced in the console), but this is not ok for ". > > There are more than you expect. > > No offence. :) none taken > > Best regards > > Hans Dear Hans, that is all very true, especially for "people, who NEED graphical, easy to use tools". But guess what - it happens to Apple OSX Users all the time. Last time, for example, they threw all 32bit Software into the historical bit-bucket and lots and lots of useful software went down the drain. I'm afraid that this will happen with Debian too when supporting 32bit architecture becomes less and less feasable. It happens always with any architecture when maintainers lose interest, hardware becomes harder to come-by, the maintainer(s) experience(s) job related changes or their health is making trouble, or they need more time for the kids. That is the way it is and always will be. Cheers Eike
Re: VirtualBox - vboxpci [correction]
On Sunday, 6 September 2020 16:38:19 -04 Eike Lantzsch wrote: [snip] > > vboxconfig request the signing of four modules, one of them is > > vboxpci. And this module has not been installed. > > > > So I wonder where I can find this module. > > Then get yourself the GuestEditions iso. After you > installed Windos-10 on the virtual machine insert the CD or the > USB-stick with the GuestEditions and run > VirtualBox-6.1.14-140239-Win.exe[1] On Linux Guests I usually use the Sorry, I meant VBoxWindowsAdditions.exe
Re: VirtualBox - vboxpci
On Sunday, 6 September 2020 10:05:23 -04 Klaus Jantzen wrote: > On 9/6/20 12:27 PM, Georgi Naplatanov wrote: > > On 9/6/20 12:17 PM, Klaus Jantzen wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> I am trying to run VB 16.1.14 r140239 on my laptop under Debian > >> Buster. > >> > >> After sucessfully signing vboxdrv, vboxnetflt and vboxnetadp I > >> installed the extension package. > >> > >> Now I have to additionally sign vboxpci. > >> > >> However, this module was not installed. Where do I get it from? > > > > Hi, > > > > I use Virtualbox 6.1 on my computer without any problems. > > > > I don't understand what your problem is. > > > > I have added the following line to /etc/apt//sources.list > > > > deb https://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian buster contrib > > > > HTH > > > > Kind regards > > Georgi > > My problem is not the installation of VB. > > After the installation I defined a Windows10-machine. When I start > this machine VB indicates that the kernel driver ist not installed > and recommends to run '/sbin/vboxconfig'. > > vboxconfig request the signing of four modules, one of them is > vboxpci. And this module has not been installed. > > So I wonder where I can find this module. Honestly, Klaus Jantzen, neither do I understand what you are talking about. First: VB version 16.1.14 r140239 does not exist. Do you mean version 6.1.14?Did you get it from here:http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/6.1.14/ ?Get the .deb file and install it the Debian way. WHen you stat VBox then it asks you to download and install the extension kit, which is downloaded by Virtualbox itself. Then get yourself the GuestEditions iso. After you installed Windos-10 on the virtual machine insert the CD or the USB-stick with the GuestEditions and run VirtualBox-6.1.14-140239-Win.exe[1] On Linux Guests I usually use the loop device to mount the GuestAdditions iso. But on WIndows? There is nothing to "sign" and no extra modules to install - no vboxdrv, vboxnetflt and vboxnetadp and especially no vboxpci. Hope that helpsCheersEike -- Eike Lantzsch ZP6CGE On a note about Re: Sv: and so on "feature" of MS email clients. Re: is not a short for "Reply" as MS seems to think. As http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RE_(e-mail) states: re (the ablative of res 'thing') has been used in English since the 18th century to mean 'in the matter of', 'referring to', or 'about'. In business letters and memoranda, "Re:" may be used instead of "Subject:" to set off the topic. [1] http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/6.1.14/VirtualBox-6.1.14-140239-Win.exe
Re: psu or firmware?
On Saturday, 18 July 2020 17:11:22 -04 Graham Seaman wrote: > On 18/07/2020 21:47, Stefan Monnier wrote: > >> New batteries for a Dell Vostro 1520 seem to run around $30 > >> (according to a quick search for "battery dell vostro 1520"). > > > > Adding "site:co.uk" to the query seems to indicate prices are more > > in > > the £40-50 range in the UK. > > Most of the ones on Amazon are less than that. I've just bought one > for £21.99 - a Chinese clone of the original, I imagine. I shall see > if that does it or it turns out to be an onboard regulator or > similar, in which case I guess I give up on it. > > Graham The chinese clones (or from Chechia for that matter) are usually better than the original ones. Reason: The clones are really new but the original ones came together with the notebook in the same container. That means that they are original but as old as the computer and not good anymore. -- Eike Lantzsch ZP6CGE
Re: Very old hardware...
On Saturday, 4 July 2020 15:04:22 -04 Davide Lombardo wrote: > On Friday, 3 July 2020 22:57:06 CEST Charles Curley wrote: > > On Fri, 03 Jul 2020 19:17:33 +0200 > > > > Davide Lombardo wrote: > > > Good evening Debian User, I have found an old PC with these specs: > > > CPU: Pentium III 700 Mhz; > > > > It might be useful to identify the manufacturer of the computer or > > motherboard, and search the Internet for documentation. > > > > You may want to add a network card and as much memory as you can > > stuff into it. > > > > For installing, maybe a (temporary?) CD-ROM drive. > > > > I would use the netboot installation disk. Get a minimal console > > only > > installation going, update/upgrade as appropriate. Then add a GUI. > > At that point, tasksel is your friend. > > Oh I forgot to list the dvd driver the PC is an Acer Aspire 8400, yeah > at least would be good if I can add more RAM yes, and get yourself a model 15 teletype as well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XLZ4Z8LpEE SCNR Cheers Eike -- Eike Lantzsch ZP6CGE
Re: technical terms overhaul
On Sunday, 21 June 2020 06:11:58 -04 Rob van der Putten wrote:
> Hi there
>
> On 19/06/2020 21:14, Eike Lantzsch wrote:
> > On the danger of starting a flame war ...
> > thinking about the article by Gunnar Wolf on Planet Debian
> >
> > instead of "whitelist" and "blacklist" I would like to propose the terms:
> > "allowlist" and "rejectlist"
> > instead of (for example on disk drives) "master" and "slave" I like to
> > propose the terms:
> > "lead" and "lag" which are e.g. used when electrically managing two pumps
> > working on the same hydraulic circuit.
> >
> > What do you think?
>
> How about parent, child, kill, zombie, cooked, raw, sane.
> Male, female, bisex connectors.
> Red and black.
> In a classic concurrent server, a client connects. The parent creates a
> child. The child does all the work (child labour). After the work is
> done the child commits suicide or gets killed by the parent.
>
> These metaphors are not necessarily very nice. The main thing is that
> they are clear.
>
>
> Regards,
> Rob
Hi also,
Yep, it is true that working on the symptoms does not cure the malady.
The terms white for good/acceptable and black for bad/unacceptable are not the
problem. The problem is that those terms with exact this connotation are
applied to human beings not for what they do as individuals but to exclude
them from privileges or to look down upon them. Debian however will have a
hard time to change the world in that respect. It can only reflect another way
of thinking by adjusting its technical terms. If the change of technical terms
without also changing the thinking is worthwhile to do, I don't know. Language
is revealing and serves to convey thoughts and feelings. I think, however,
that it is necessary to avoid the "language of the fiend"[1]. If we change the
language it might change the mind little by little - or not at all. Depends on
which influences on a person or group of persons is stronger. ("For mere
oppression may make a wise one act crazy, ..."[2])
Actually, on the other hand, changing the technical terms might rob
underprivileged people of the oportunity to pinpoint the offending acts/
thinking and that would surely be worse.
Kind regards
Eike
[1] https://ids-pub.bsz-bw.de/frontdoor/index/index/docId/9127
I don't know about the availability of the book in English. Even the term
"Sprache des Unmenschen" is difficult to translate.
[2] Finding out where the citations are from, I leave as an exercise to the
reader - it should be easy. Yes, I checked it. It is easy.
--
Eike Lantzsch ZP6CGE
[2] "Again I turned my attention to all the acts of oppression that go on
under the sun. I saw the tears of the oppressed, and there was no one to
comfort them. And their oppressors had the power, and there was no one to
comfort them."
Re: technical terms overhaul
On Friday, 19 June 2020 17:42:51 -04 davidson wrote: > On Fri, 19 Jun 2020, Eike Lantzsch wrote: > > On the danger of starting a flame war ... > > thinking about the article by Gunnar Wolf on Planet Debian > > Link? https://gwolf.org/2020/06/on-masters-and-slaves-whitelists-and-blacklists.html I thought that Planet Debian is well known on this list. I'm sorry not to have provided the link right away. [rest snipped as I did not intend to use offensive speech - rather the opposite] All the best to you -- Eike Lantzsch ZP6CGE
Re: technical terms overhaul
On Friday, 19 June 2020 16:32:19 -04 Paul Johnson wrote: > On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 2:14 PM Eike Lantzsch wrote: > > On the danger of starting a flame war ... > > thinking about the article by Gunnar Wolf on Planet Debian > > > > instead of "whitelist" and "blacklist" I would like to propose the terms: > > "allowlist" and "rejectlist" > > instead of (for example on disk drives) "master" and "slave" I like to > > propose > > the terms: > > "lead" and "lag" which are e.g. used when electrically managing two pumps > > working on the same hydraulic circuit. > > > > What do you think? > > Keeping with the color dynamic but disconnecting it from potential racial > connotations, how about "redlist" and "greenlist"? I kinda feel like the > five common traffic signal colors are pretty universal, especially the > first three. I really like "redlist" and "greenlist". Traffic lights abound in every country and are most probably well understood everywhere. Have a nice day Eike
technical terms overhaul
On the danger of starting a flame war ... thinking about the article by Gunnar Wolf on Planet Debian instead of "whitelist" and "blacklist" I would like to propose the terms: "allowlist" and "rejectlist" instead of (for example on disk drives) "master" and "slave" I like to propose the terms: "lead" and "lag" which are e.g. used when electrically managing two pumps working on the same hydraulic circuit. What do you think? All the best Eike -- Eike Lantzsch ZP6CGE Paradox: Getting live-updates about fatalities
Re: Debian is testing Discourse
On Sunday, 12 April 2020 09:21:42 -04 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Du, 12 apr 20, 11:10:22, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > I know I will be out here. > > I seriously doubt this (or any) mailing list will be shut down as long > as there is significant activity (spam and off-topic doesn't count). > > Kind regards, > Andrei debian-user is still available on usenet, although kiddies nowadays seem to not know about it. So there might be hope still. -- Eike Lantzsch ZP6CGE Paradox: Getting live-updates about fatalities
Re: how to save video on web page
On Tuesday, 7 April 2020 06:37:20 -04 Michael Lange wrote: > On Tue, 7 Apr 2020 12:28:39 +0200 > > Michael Lange wrote: > > > Use upstream. > > > > or just use backports. > > oops, sorry, that had to be "use deb-multimedia", that's where the current > version here actually comes from. > > Regards > > Michael While, in general, I would be extremely cautious with using packages of deb- multimedia, in the case of youtube-dl it does not pull-in other packages of deb-multimedia. -- up to now. That may change in the future. So be on the watch. Have a nice day Eike ZP6CGE
Re: change the mount point of my flash drive
On Wednesday, 1 April 2020 10:31:38 -04 kaye n wrote: > Hello Friends! > > It seems that in Debian, my USB flash drive is automatically mounted at: > > /media/user/myflashdrive > > Is it possible to permanently change it to /media/myflashdrive ? > > The reason is because I have many LibreOffice Calc files in my flash drive > that are linked to each other. > > The 'user' in my laptop is kaye. The 'user' in my desktop is something > else, let's say it's peter. > > If I link the Calc files using my laptop, the links would use the path > /media/kaye/myflashdrive. > > If I then plug the flash drive on the desktop computer to continue work on > the same Calc files, I could not do so because the links have the path > /media/kaye/myflashdrive, whereas in the desktop computer the path or the > mount point is /media/peter/myflashdrive. > > LibreOffice Calc in the desktop computer can't find > /media/kaye/myflashdrive because the 'user' in the desktop computer is > peter. > > I hope that's clear. > > Thank you for your time! # DriveName UUID=long_number<->/media/yourmountpoint<--->ext4<-->user,rw,noauto,x- systemd.device-timeout=5s<>0<->2 at least that's what I'm using ... -- Eike Lantzsch ZP6CGE Paradox: Getting live-updates about fatalities
Re: only for debian?
On Friday, 17 January 2020 22:54:38 -03 kaye n wrote: > Hello guys, I just want to ask if this email list is strictly for Debian? > Or can one ask just about anything as long as it's related to GNU/Linux, > free software, etc? > > I'm asking because I can't find what I'm looking for elsewhere. It's about > VLC player. > > No worries if this is for Debian only. > > Thank you! https://wiki.videolan.org/Forum/ You're welcome Cheers Eike
Re: Poll about DVD drive behavior
On Tuesday, 14 January 2020 16:28:18 -03 Eike Lantzsch wrote: > On Tuesday, 14 January 2020 07:22:53 -03 Thomas Schmitt wrote: > > /dev/disk/by-id > > LG HL-DT-ST_BD-RE_BH16NS40_K9PF41A4730 > > Also a nice day to you > I'm sorry; this mail went before it had been finished. This unit does not retract the tray automatically. After 9'38" it still has no intentiuon to retract. -- Eike Lantzsch ZP6CGE
Re: Poll about DVD drive behavior
On Tuesday, 14 January 2020 07:22:53 -03 Thomas Schmitt wrote: > /dev/disk/by-id LG HL-DT-ST_BD-RE_BH16NS40_K9PF41A4730 Also a nice day to you -- Eike Lantzsch ZP6CGE
Re: Debian Format Disk
On Saturday, August 17, 2019 12:50:10 PM -04 Finariu Florin wrote: > Hi everyone,Maybe somebody can help me with some explanations. Thank you in > advance!!When I do format disk form accessories → disk → format disk → > erase, I have 3 option:1. Don't overwrite existing data (Quick)2. > Overwrite existing data with zeroes (Slow)3. ATA Enhanced Secure Erase > (Approximate 4 minutes)What exactly do each of them?Thank you! Now I'm a bit puzzhled. Who asked this question? Peter Roger or Finariu Florin? Answer: https://maas.io/docs/disk-erasure
Re: Debian Format Disk
On Saturday, August 17, 2019 12:57:02 PM -04 Peter Roger wrote: > Hieveryone, > > Maybesomebody can help me with some explanations. Thank you in advance!! > WhenI do format disk form accessories → disk → format disk → erase, I have 3 > option: 1.Don't overwrite existing data (Quick) > 2.Overwrite existing data with zeroes (Slow) > 3.ATA Enhanced Secure Erase (Approximate 4 minutes) > > Whatexactly do each of them? > > Thankyou! Hi Peter: Here you may find a nice and brief explanation: https://maas.io/docs/disk-erasure It is not specific to Debian because this is general behaviour on most operating systems. Cheers Eike
Re: May be silly question, but: Lost my qq(´) and qq(´) key
On Monday, April 8, 2019 12:29:44 PM -04 Martin wrote: > Hi list, > > since a few days, my qq(´) and qq(´)¹ don't work with a single press. I have > to press twice. Who can tell me why? > And, ho do I get my old single press behavior back? > Sorry I don't get this keyboard magic in this life... > > 1) On a German keyboard, it is the key left of the backspace. > > > Thanks, Martin Hi Martin, do I understand correctly a single press gave you ´ and with shift `? so you were not able to write á and à by pressing the qq and then a? Now one qq press and then a gives á? Double press of qq now results in ´? The latter is the normal behaviour of my Gerrman keyboard layout. For me it's useful because in a Spanish-speaking country I often need the accented characters. This is with layout "German (dead grave acute)". You need to install "German (eliminate dead grave acute)" in your X-setup. I don't know about xfce but for me it is enough to change this in the KDE setup. For programming and for the shell the behaviour with a single-press ´ is better of course. I have no idea why this may have changed. Maybe look through the upgrade protocolls of apt, if you want to know what happened. If you have more than one keyboard layout installed (as I have) then a certain key-combination might have changed it unadvertently. Have success and a nice day -- Eike Lantzsch ZP6CGE Agencia Shopping del Sol Casilla de Correo 13005 1749 Asuncion / Paraguay Yes, grey does matter - within the skull. For the 'Mercans: gray does matter.
Re: do you find old firefox is better than new one?
Dear Long Wind: Usually I don't reply AOL but in this case I second that. I'm an unhappy Firefox-user on Debian and am looking for alternatives. Yes, I do have many tabs open, 'cause I need them. I got plenty of memory but Firefox does not seem to use it efficiently. On Sunday, December 16, 2018 9:32:07 AM -03 Long Wind wrote: > i have 52.9.0 and 45.9.0, both for stretch > new one often becomes unresponsive, or slows down extremely ... > and i have to close it and restart it > it often happens when i first start it > maybe some function/service is blocked in China I cannot second this behaviour. Do you use some or many extensions? Maybe legacy add-ons? What about scripting on those pages? Here often enough scripts are stopped. > it seems it's doing something impossible, and takes much cpu resource > but old firefox also face blocking Often 1 cpu of 4 is 100% in use without anything happening. > > i can't describe it in more details or reproduce problem Same here. Modern browsers are such a conglomerate of code that describing a problem is very difficult or impossible, even less pinning it down, not to mention debugging it. Unfortunately I also was never happy with Safari on OSX nor with IE or later with Edge on Win7 or 10 when I was compelled to use it. My use of Firefox on OSX or Win10 is not as intense as on Linux so I cannot directly compare the OSes in this respect. As a consequence I shall not throw blame on the OS. Life is too short for browsers. Cheers, Eike -- Eike Lantzsch ZP6CGE Yes, grey does matter. For the 'Mercans: gray does matter.
Re: Any directional antennas recommendations?
On Saturday, November 24, 2018 4:28:01 PM -03 Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: > On 24.11.2018 3:41, Hubert Hauser wrote: > > Hello! > > > > I need to connect to a distant Wi-Fi network. I consider buying a > > parabolic antenna. I want to have 10 km range and long amplification. > > Will TP-Link TL-ANT2424B be a good aerial? > > > > -- > > > > Best wishes, > > Hubert. > > According to specifications of the TL-ANT2424B you should be getting > around 30Mbps. [1] > Of course, you have to install antennas on both sides, as Doug already > suggested, to make them "talk" in both directions and also make sure > there are minimal possible obstructions between them, especially > concrete or wooden buildings, trees, high voltage power lines, etc. And don't just think of line-of-sight but also take the Fresnel-Zone* into account because every dB counts. You might want to install WiMax, which is designed to cover distances of up to 50km instead of being bent on WiFi. Using high-gain directional antennas makes your installation illegal in most countries unless you are a licensed radio amateur. But even then you need to stay within the assigned frequenies for amateur radio and you are not allowed to encrypt. [*] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fresnel_zone > You have to mount them on a poles long enough to compensate for horizon > curvature and direct them at each other to get maximum possible signal > strength. > Also keep in mind that this setup will be prone to weather conditions > like rain, snow, wind and could temporally make signal strength worse. > > [1] > https://www.tp-link.com/us/products/details/cat-5067_TL-ANT2424B.html#specif > ications -- Eike Lantzsch ZP6CGE
Re: 100Base-FX (SC) card PCI/PCIe
On Wednesday, November 7, 2018 12:39:11 PM -03 Joe wrote: > On Wed, 07 Nov 2018 09:04:40 -0300 > > Eike Lantzsch wrote: > > On Wednesday, November 7, 2018 1:06:15 PM -03 Michelle Konzack wrote: > > > Good day *, > > > > > > I am running on my Organic Farm and my Forest into problems with the > > > lenght (100m) of Ethernet cables and want to use now for this case > > > Fiber Multimode 1310nm cables. > > > > do you have a technician available to install the FO connectors? If > > you want to do it yourself you need a microscope for FO cable, the > > tools to grind and polish the cuts AND practice. To get practice buy > > many extra connectors and take your time. > > In many parts of the world, having the cables made by a specialist is > fairly cheap, I think terminating your own cables isn't worth doing > unless it's hundreds. > > There is a means of getting quite large amounts of power along with > two fibres, but it's fairly expensive: the SMPTE Hybrid cable, widely > used in TV broadcasting. The Neutrik OpticalCON is a cheaper system. Yep, the OP mentioned that he can get the FO cables made ready-to-use.
Re: 100Base-FX (SC) card PCI/PCIe
On Wednesday, November 7, 2018 1:06:15 PM -03 Michelle Konzack wrote: > Good day *, > > I am running on my Organic Farm and my Forest into problems with the > lenght (100m) of Ethernet cables and want to use now for this case > Fiber Multimode 1310nm cables. > do you have a technician available to install the FO connectors? If you want to do it yourself you need a microscope for FO cable, the tools to grind and polish the cuts AND practice. To get practice buy many extra connectors and take your time.
Re: 100Base-FX (SC) card PCI/PCIe
On Wednesday, November 7, 2018 1:06:15 PM -03 Michelle Konzack wrote: > Good day *, > > I am running on my Organic Farm and my Forest into problems with the > lenght (100m) of Ethernet cables and want to use now for this case > Fiber Multimode 1310nm cables. > > So what I have is following: > > 1) Server "Bunker" (19" 16U Rack, 2 Mini-ITX Server, 4G-Router, >Astra-Internet Switch, currently 8-port D-Link GreenSwitch, UPS) > > 2) House (30m distance to second D-Link GreenSwitch) > 3) Workspace (20m distance, will get maybe an additional D-Link 5-port >GreenSwitch) > 4) (Winter-)Greenhouse (60m distance for Siemens LOGO!) > 5) Powerstation (20m distance, Victron Color Control GX, Siemens LOGO!, >requires 2 cable or also an another D-Link 5-port GreenSwitch) > > So this can be done with 12m thick Ethernet Earthcables which I get > for under 0,50/m > > 6) Panorama IP cam with remote controll installed on my big Windmill >mast (100Base-TX, 110m distance) > > Best option to connect 6)? > > 7) 1 IP cam (100Base-TX) with Interphone in 50m distance >here I can also use an Ethernet cable and then using a Eternet/Fiber >switch to connect > > and from 7) > > 8) 2 IP cams (100Base-TX) in 40m distance > 9) 2 IP cams (100Base-TX) in 80m distance > 10) 2 IP cams (100Base-TX) in 140m distance > > In 2020 we plan a Stall (160m distance) for our animals which should > get also an IP cam and an IP based Interphone (SIP?) > > In 4-5 years we plan a second House which in a distance of arround > 300-350m > > For the IP cams I can get very cheap the TP-Link MC100CM on which I > can attach a small temperature controlled heating element (Estonia > can be cold as -40°C on our farm). The LevelOne IEC-4001 would be > nicer, but the price is GRMPF! > > Fiber SC cables I can get up to 400m preconfigured, so this is no > problem. > > > The question is now, how to connect all best together? > > > The two Mini-ITX Servers have no free PCI/PCEe ports available, > hence only Ethernet direct or the MX100CM is an option > > Now I need a Fiber Singel-Mode SC Switch and (maybe) Network Cards > for my Workstations where two have PCI and PCIe slots. > > > Which 100Base-FX/SC Switch and Card can you recommend? > > > Note: Since I have NO AC-Power availlable, the Switches MUST HAVE > external power supplies (5-24V DC) > > I found on eBay the Microsens MS453111 very cheap (I can buy some > spare too; however, the Microsens Website <http://www.microsens.cn> > does not more work since some time) but I would probably need in my > "Bunker" a Switch which has 12-16 Eternet ports and 3-4 SC ports. > > Also the power consumption does matter because Of the solar- and > windenergy systems > > My old 3Com 100Base-FX (PCI) cards have unfortunately only > Singel-Mode hence I need new stuff for my 4 Workstations. > > Thanks in advance Hi Michelle Konzack, between buildings fibre optics is always the best bet, because of differences in earth potential and the danger of lightning hits. These do not have to hit the cables directly. Strong earth currents in the case of a tree being hit or another building being hit may destroy most of your infrastructure in a wink of the eye. So do not only take the cable length into account. If copper cat6 needs lengths > 90m within a building, additional switches in- between are an option, maybe with PoIP. But from building to building: always fibre optic cable. It also eventually may turn out to be cheaper becasue you need only one kind of switches and can skip the installation of (expensive and often useless) ground arresters. I wish you success Eike -- Eike Lantzsch ZP6CGE
Re: Creating a bootable (non-UEFI) backup copy of a bootable (non-UEFI) Debian hard disk
On Saturday, November 3, 2018 9:45:11 AM -03 local10 wrote: > Hi, > > Am looking for an (easy) way to create a backup copy of working bootable > Debian Buster HD. The idea here is to have a second bootable > fully-functional HD which is normally offline but updated from time to > time, including all user data and installed packages. > > So for that purpose I have two HDs (working and backup), both are the same > model, the same size, both are partitioned exactly the same way (three > partitions: /boot, /, swap). Rsync-ing "/" partitions is not a problem and > coping boot partition files from "working /boot" to "backup /boot" could be > easily done too. However, I'm having issues making the backup HD bootable. > Either I'm doing something wrong with grub-install and/or perhaps just > coping files from "working /boot" to "backup /boot" isn't a good idea? > > Thanks https://clonezilla.org/
Re: recovering a partition table
On Friday, September 7, 2018 5:34:00 PM -04 Dominic Knight wrote: > Whilst trying to create one partition out of two (using disks) I > appear to have accidentally deleted the partition table of (almost) the > whole drive. It still has the swap partition and an unknown partition > of zero size apparently with 2tb of freespace. It was 10gb swap, 1tb, > 50 gb, and two at roughly 500gb each at the end. > > How do I recover the original partition table? testdisk and gparted come to mind. A Google search turns up many HOWTOs for Linux. Before you do anything else first of all make an image of the disk by means of clonezilla-live. Then diverse methods for partition table recovery are open to you. All the best E.L.
Re: painted into a corner
On Sunday, August 19, 2018 5:51:24 PM -04 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 19 August 2018 17:15:43 Eike Lantzsch wrote: > > On Sunday, August 19, 2018 10:37:05 PM -04 john doe wrote: > > > On 8/19/2018 9:40 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > Greetings all; > > > > > > > > I just installed stretch to a fresh 2T HD. letting it > > > > autopartition and format for separate /, swap, /var and /home > > > > partitions. But I didn't let it overwrite the grub on the 1st > > > > drive it was/is booting wheezy from. > > > > > > > > I figured I'd mount it to wheezy and copy over my personal stuff, > > > > like an email corpus well over 15GB reaching back to 2002. > > > > > > > > But I can't mount much of the drive, / is all that will actually > > > > mount, because the 2 versions of ext4 are incompatible, nearly all > > > > the mount and e2tools can't touch the installers ext4 file > > > > systems. > > > > > > > > For instance, its not mounted: > > > > gene@coyote:~$ e2fsck /dev/sdb8 > > > > e2fsck 1.42.5 (29-Jul-2012) > > > > /dev/sdb8 has unsupported feature(s): metadata_csum > > > > e2fsck: Get a newer version of e2fsck! > > > > > > > > And of course whats installed to wheezy is the latest available > > > > wheezy version of e2fsck. > > > > > > > > Whats the recommended way to do these mounts so I can maintain as > > > > much continuity as possible? > > > > > > Maybe using apt-pinning. > > > > > > In other words, installing the version of Stretch/Jessie on wheezy. > > > > > > On the wheezy host, can't you backupt on an external hardware? > > > > In those cases I usually boot a recent live-CD (or USB-stick) like > > KNOPPIX and mount and copy from there. > > I just rebooted to it, and I found a desktop interface that will wear out > a set of batteries in my mouse weekly because it takes at least 8 to 10 > clicks and some scroll wheel work just to find a #@%# terminal, and it > can't even add tabs to a different shell either! I didn't install > anything special for a desktop, took the default because I intended to > replace it with TDE asap, and going from 10 workspaces, 4 of which have > multi-tabbed (up to 7 tabs each) konsoles running on them, with a > pulldown text menu to run half the stuff I run on the other workspaces, > to a single window, single tasking system thats worse than the last > windows box I was asked to configure the networking on, was very > disheartening. So I added the trinity stuff to /etc/apt/sources.list.d > using mc to copy that from the old disk, changing the wheezy in the deb > line to stretch, and that did not get me the TDE desktop I've been using > for years, but did get me some sort of a warning window that was taller > than my screen, fussing that some repo I hadn't added, was duff. If > debian is trying to kill itself, it was a heck of a good start, not even > a windows user looking for something better would be impressed. > > The only thing that Just Worked was the networking, it took everything > for a static net and Just Worked on the reboot. That was a rather > pleasant surprise considering the only stretch based install on my > rock64's that works at all was armbian. None of the other arm|hf|64 > *bians will accept a gateway assignment except as as a route command > after a login. > > I'm burned out for today, my cataracts might have to be the next thing I > fix. With KNOPPIX to do such simple things as copying don't boot into the X-Window. On boot enter: knoppix 2 (look at the cheat code) and you have text only use mc if you must or want Sorry but I don't have time to wade through rants ... All the best Eike
Re: painted into a corner
On Sunday, August 19, 2018 10:37:05 PM -04 john doe wrote: > On 8/19/2018 9:40 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Greetings all; > > > > I just installed stretch to a fresh 2T HD. letting it autopartition and > > format for separate /, swap, /var and /home partitions. But I didn't let > > it overwrite the grub on the 1st drive it was/is booting wheezy from. > > > > I figured I'd mount it to wheezy and copy over my personal stuff, like an > > email corpus well over 15GB reaching back to 2002. > > > > But I can't mount much of the drive, / is all that will actually mount, > > because the 2 versions of ext4 are incompatible, nearly all the mount > > and e2tools can't touch the installers ext4 file systems. > > > > For instance, its not mounted: > > gene@coyote:~$ e2fsck /dev/sdb8 > > e2fsck 1.42.5 (29-Jul-2012) > > /dev/sdb8 has unsupported feature(s): metadata_csum > > e2fsck: Get a newer version of e2fsck! > > > > And of course whats installed to wheezy is the latest available wheezy > > version of e2fsck. > > > > Whats the recommended way to do these mounts so I can maintain as much > > continuity as possible? > > Maybe using apt-pinning. > > In other words, installing the version of Stretch/Jessie on wheezy. > > On the wheezy host, can't you backupt on an external hardware? In those cases I usually boot a recent live-CD (or USB-stick) like KNOPPIX and mount and copy from there. -- Eike Lantzsch ZP6CGE
Re: As seen above: use of su vs sudo
On Tuesday, August 7, 2018 11:58:48 AM -04 Martin Drescher wrote: > Hi members, > > I'm a little... lets say thoughtful, about the use of 'su' discussed at some > points in this list. I have a strong opinion about su, which is, avoid it > whenever it is possible and use 'sudo' instead. This is the case in close > to a 100% in all cases I can think of. This opinion is based on how both > programs work and deal with pam and environmental variables. Not to forget: > You will not need to share (or in my case, not even set, but lock that > account) a root password. > > And I'm curious why Debian still prefers the use of su over sudo? > > > Martin. What ever one prefers, I recommend the following discussion: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0purspHg-o and this book: https://www.michaelwlucas.com/tools/sudo Cheers Eike
Re: Network-related Chicken and Egg Issue, attempting Install of Debian 9.4
On Sunday, April 22, 2018 10:55:48 AM -04 David Christensen wrote: > On 04/21/18 22:26, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > ... systemd ... > > spreading FUD about it > > just fires backwards, and shouldn't be the style here... > > Please cite the FUD I am spreading about systemd. > > > David man ip: *"ip* was written by Alexey N. Kuznetsov and added in Linux 2.2." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systemd: "Lennart Poettering and Kay Sievers started the project to develop systemd in 2010." To call the "AFAIK" "FUD" seems a bit harsh but mentioning ip as part of systemd *is* plain wrong.I made the mistake to attribute failings of my system installation to systemd only to find out later that the problem was entirely unrelated to systemd and the cause sometimes to be solely sought between chair and keyboard. Have a nice day y'allEike
Re: Debian 9 sucks really badly
On Saturday, March 24, 2018 2:01:13 PM -03 Chris Anderson wrote: > Hello > > I have been using different flavours of Linux since slackware 96 over 20 > years ago. Since then I have installed and used at least a dozen > different flavours. By far the most challenging was the X windows system > for slackware but I managed to get it installed and running with no > problems. > > Last week I bought a new PC and decided to try debian so I downloaded > the DVD version 9 and performed a fresh install besides windows 10. > Right from the off, it fucked up, Grubb was a hassle as this was the > default boot loader,(I have always used LILO), it would not find the > windows partition, I managed to fix this. Then it didn't give me a > choice of X windows manager, I was stuck with KDE, which I am familiar > with and am aware of its may limitations and given the choice I wouldn't > use KDE for installation and configuration. > > Nearly everything fucked up from the Network install to the gcc make > command, what a hassle and after spending nearly a week trying to get it > all working I've had enough and am not wasting any more of my time on > this awful software. > > So thanks for wasting my time Debian and for future reference, go and > get fucked!!! > > > Chris Anderson What you are telling us is: 1) You are able to eloquently express your dismay in writing 2) You are unwilling to either read menu items nor manuals nor release notes 3) You are expecting Debian install to have everything your way without contributing to Debian development 4) You don't ask for directions before walking down that lane nor asking for help being halfway down that lane 5) You never contributed anything to any mailinglist, not even slackware, under the e-mail address you used 6) You use words in writing that many would not touch with a pole 7) You show the traits of a toxic personality (whether you actually have one we don't know) verdict: Troll ZP6CGE QRZ
Re: Broken kernel?
On Sunday, March 11, 2018 7:47:13 PM -03 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 11 March 2018 19:36:37 John ff wrote: > > i have an Intel Atom CPU N2600 @ 1.60GHz that I fairly recently > > upgraded from Whezzy to Jessie, but I cannot boot the kernel(s) that > > came with Jessie. > > > > All is OK with vmlinuz-3.2.0-4-amd64, but both 3.16.0-4-amd64 and > > 3.16.0-5-amd64 fail to load. When equipped with a screen I see it > > says Loading .. but it does not complete with no disk activity. The > > 3.2.0-4-amd64 kernel gives the same loading message followed shortly > > by saying the /dev/sda2 disk partition is clean and it continues to > > boot. Sorry I cannot remember the exact words after "Loading" but this > > m/c usually runs headless as my firewall and server. > > > > I am looking for any clues as how to continue the upgrade to Stretch. > > > > ==John ffitch > > > > > > Sent from Blue > > First and obvious question: Its an intel atom, so why are you trying to > load and exec a kernel that was built to run on an amd64? because that would be the right kernel to load? This might be related: Debian Bug report logs - #794410 debian-installer: Installer hangs during 'select and install software' Otherwise I didn't find any similar scenarios with Jessie. At this point I'm afraid you maneuvered yourself into a corner and you better install Debian Stretch from scratch. This may save time instead of trying to figure out what is wrong, fixing and following the upgrade-path further. You might want to try a live-DVD (put on a USB-stick) first but then don't install from the live-os but use netinstall instead. Booting the live-os will give you the opportunity to save data and config files before starting the install from scratch. All the best Eike -- Eike Lantzsch ZP6CGE
Re: Radiotray fails in stretch
On Saturday, January 20, 2018 9:36:20 PM -03 deloptes wrote: > Eike Lantzsch wrote: > > And that's it. I don't have any experience with radiotray and have no > > suggestions. > > Is it still maintaned? > > For now I'm going to deinstall it again. No time nor energy to > > investigate. > > looks like a shit program to me - just wondering how it got it into debian > packages. > When I read first this post I was thinking there is an app for controlling > radio receiver but it turns out it is online radio - WTF! online radio is > not a radio like terrestrial broadcast. Each online radio offers nowdays a > HTML5 stream, which can be automatically played by any HTML5 compatible > browser. > > correct me if I am wrong > > regards No, I think you're right either way. kind regards and have a nice day
Re: Radiotray fails in stretch
On Saturday, January 20, 2018 5:20:02 PM -03 tony wrote:
> I recently upgraded my jessie laptop to stretch, in accordance with the
> published instructions.
>
> All seems to have gone well, so far, except for one item: Radiotray will
> not run. There is an old bug report against it (814628), which mentions
> dependency issues, but the maintainer reckons it's fixed. My symptoms
> are identical to those in the bug report.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions, please?
I just tried it with Stretch. It installs OK and obviously doesn't have any
dependency problems. Starting it just puts an icon into the tray. On clicking
onto it it asks if you want to run it in a tray or. ..
After answering the question (checkbox) it sits in the tray as a grayed-out
icon which is from then on autistic.
Error messages on startup:
01:~$ radiotray
/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/radiotray/XmlDataProvider.py:23: PyGIWarning:
Gtk was imported without specifying a version first. Use
gi.require_version('Gtk', '3.0') before import to ensure that the right
version gets loaded.
from gi.repository import Gtk
/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/radiotray/AudioPlayerGStreamer.py:64:
FutureWarning: The behavior of this method will change in future versions. Use
specific 'len(elem)' or 'elem is not None' test instead.
if(cfg_provider._settingExists("buffer_size")):
/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/radiotray/SysTray.py:100: PyGIWarning:
AppIndicator3 was imported without specifying a version first. Use
gi.require_version('AppIndicator3', '0.1') before import to ensure that the
right version gets loaded.
from gi.repository import AppIndicator3
(radiotray:8813): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error: gtk.css:68:35: The
style property GtkButton:child-displacement-x is deprecated and shouldn't be
used anymore. It will be removed in a future version
(radiotray:8813): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error: gtk.css:69:35: The
style property GtkButton:child-displacement-y is deprecated and shouldn't be
used anymore. It will be removed in a future version
(radiotray:8813): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error: gtk.css:73:46: The
style property GtkScrolledWindow:scrollbars-within-bevel is deprecated and
shouldn't be used anymore. It will be removed in a future version
Gtk-Message: GtkDialog mapped without a transient parent. This is discouraged.
Sleep Timer, Stops playing after a predefined time, SleepTimerPlugin.py, Carlos
Ribeiro
StationSwitcher, Allows cycling through stations, StationSwitcherPlugin.py,
Mark F
HelloWorld, This is a test plugin, HelloWorld.py, Carlos Ribeiro
started
Notifications, Shows message notifications on the desktop,
NotificationPlugin.py,
Carlos Ribeiro
/usr/share/radiotray/plugins/NotificationPlugin.py:25: PyGIWarning: Notify was
imported without specifying a version first. Use gi.require_version('Notify',
'0.7') before import to ensure that the right version gets loaded.
from gi.repository import Notify
Mate Media Keys, Controls Radio Tray through keyboard multimedia keys,
MateMediaKeysPlugin.py, Ken
Gnome Media Keys, Controls Radio Tray through keyboard multimedia keys,
GnomeMediaKeysPlugin.py, Carlos Ribeiro
History, Shows song history, HistoryPlugin.py, Carlos Ribeiro
And that's it. I don't have any experience with radiotray and have no
suggestions.
Is it still maintaned?
For now I'm going to deinstall it again. No time nor energy to investigate.
Re: vbox cannot find headers, although they are installed
On Saturday, January 6, 2018 8:36:38 PM -03 Harry Putnam wrote: > Having a problem getting the vbox guest additions on a `testing' > install to allow for larger monitor resolution. > > When I attempt to install the additions the ouput says it cannot find > the headers for the running kernel. > > I have checked, rechecked and reinstalled the headers but still get > the message that they cannot be found and the kernel module build then > fails. > > (Note: All debian systems mentioned below are running as guests on an > `openindiana' (a solaris offshoot) host) > > (Full output of attempted guest additions install are at the end) > > But briefly . . . . > > >From the host with the failure: > uname -r 4.14.0-2-amd64 This is not Stretch? Stretch is still with 4.9.0-5-amd64. > > aptitude search headers |grep ^i > > i linux-headers-4.14.0-2-amd64 - Header files for Linux 4.14.0-2-amd64 > i A linux-headers-4.14.0-2-common - Common header files for Linux 4.14.0-2 > > , > > | On two other debian systems (both running stretch, not `testing') > | everything works as expected and the kernel module build succeeds... > | monitor settings then act accordingly. > | > | From 2 stretch hosts: > | Of course, it is a different kernel and headers (4.9.0-5-amd64) on the > | `stretch' systems and with like named header files. > | > | i A linux-headers-4.9.0-5-common > | i A linux-headers-4.9.0-5-amd64 > | > | With those in place on the stretch systems the guest additions build > | just like they should. > > ` > > What am I missing? Did you by any chance install a kernel higher than 4.14.0-2 to check it out, then went back to 4.14.0-2 or installed 4.14.0 and then went back to 4.9.0? In that case VBox is most probably still looking for the headers of the higher kernel version and cannot find them. I ran into that problem before. In that case you will have to deinstall VBox completely and install it again. You can retain the virtual installations and later incorporate them into VBox again. Cheers Eike > > = > > Terminal output from attempting install of guest additions > = > > [Did not post the full log referred to in the output below... it is > very long... but I can post it if necessary] > > root # bash ./VBoxLinuxAdditions.run > Verifying archive integrity... All good. > Uncompressing VirtualBox 5.0.40 Guest Additions for Linux > VirtualBox Guest Additions installer > Removing installed version 5.0.40 of VirtualBox Guest Additions... > Removing existing VirtualBox non-DKMS kernel modules ...done. > update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-4.14.0-2-amd64 > Copying additional installer modules ... > Installing additional modules ... > Removing existing VirtualBox non-DKMS kernel modules ...done. > Building the VirtualBox Guest Additions kernel modules > The headers for the current running kernel were not found. If the following > module compilation fails then this could be the reason. > > Building the main Guest Additions module ...fail! > (Look at /var/log/vboxadd-install.log to find out what went wrong) > Doing non-kernel setup of the Guest Additions ...done.
Re: need help on vfat partition
On Saturday, December 16, 2017 5:13:20 PM -03 Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Le 16/12/2017 à 11:45, Eike Lantzsch a écrit : > > On Saturday, December 16, 2017 10:10:08 AM -03 Long Wind wrote: > >> maybe the reason is the partition is too big > > > > for FAT16 or vfat yes. You need to format it as FAT32 or NTFS. > > (...) > > >> PS: the choice of vfat is that IMO vfat is more cross-platform > > > > not really. VFAT allows long filenames - otherwise it is not better than > > FAT16. That means it allows only partitions up to 2GB. > > FWIW, vfat is not a filesystem layout type, so it has no size limitation > per se. It is only a way to use long filenames with any FAT type, FAT12, > FAT16 or FAT32. So vfat on FAT32 has the limits of FAT32. That is interesting. Any references? The documents I found seem to tell only part of the story then. OK, I found this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_Allocation_Table "Further, the term "VFAT" has led to various misconceptions as well,[nb 1] as it is sometimes erroneously used as if it would describe another variant of FAT file system to be distinguished from the FAT12, FAT16 and FAT32 file systems, while in reality it does not specify another file system, but an optional extension, which can work on top of any FAT file system, FAT12, FAT16 or FAT32. Volumes utilizing VFAT long-filenames can be read also by operating systems not supporting the VFAT extension, as long any operating systems that support the underlying file system (FAT12, FAT16, or FAT32)." Conclusion: Long Wind's partition has type b, that is FAT32. Now making a filesystem with mkfs.vfat /dev/sda7 should make it readable and writable for WinXP.
Re: need help on vfat partition
On Saturday, December 16, 2017 11:47:07 AM -03 Long Wind wrote: > Thank Eike Lantzsch!but I can't find disk manager in Windows XPmy CDROM/DVD > doesn't work the cause of failure is size too big. Sent you a link with a screenshot of WinXP with Disk Management in Administrative Tools / Computer Management Have fun!
Re: need help on vfat partition
On Saturday, December 16, 2017 10:10:08 AM -03 Long Wind wrote: > i create a vfat partition at sda7 using fdisk of linux > > partition id is set to b It might be best to leave the partition untouched and set it up from WXP disk manager and then formatting it. WXP disk manager recognizes the partition as unused and allows to format as FAT32 or NTFS. > > then i go to XP and format it but fail hard to say anything without the error message. > > maybe the reason is the partition is too big for FAT16 or vfat yes. You need to format it as FAT32 or NTFS. > > it's more than 50G > > What should I do? Thanks! > > PS: the choice of vfat is that IMO vfat is more cross-platform not really. VFAT allows long filenames - otherwise it is not better than FAT16. That means it allows only partitions up to 2GB. FAT32: Partition max size for FAT32: 2TB allows only files < 4GB https://www.partitionwizard.com/convertpartition/fat32-partition-size-limit.html All the best to you Eike
Re: Removing old python packages installed with pip
On Friday, December 1, 2017 3:24:47 PM -03 Urs Thuermann wrote: > On a machine running Debian stretch I have installed python3, which is > currently python3.5. Nothing of python3.4 is present. > > But in /usr/local/lib/python3.4/dist-packages/ a number of packages is > still installed. Probably, these have been installed using pip3 when > python3.4 was current. > > Now, it seems pip3 isn't able to remove packages from that old > directory. Is it safe to just rm -r /usr/local/lib/python3.4? > > urs Hi Urs, If those packages were installed together with the Debian system then deinstall with aptitude or apt remove. If you mix two different package installers the consequence is that one does not know about the other and they can interfere with each other. On Debian always install packages the "Debian way". Don't make a Frankendebian: https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian Cheers Eike
Re: Discrete Fourier Transform (DFT) viewer and/or file format
On Sunday, November 12, 2017 10:06:11 PM -03 Dan Hitt wrote: > On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 8:50 PM, Richard Owlett <rowl...@cloud85.net> wrote: > > On 11/12/2017 09:45 PM, Dan Hitt wrote: > >> I have some DFTs that i wish to inspect. (Apparently DFT is a common > >> acronym, but here i mean Discrete Fourier Transform. And properly > >> speaking it doesn't make sense to inspect a transform, but only to > >> inspect transformed data, but i'm speaking colloquially.) > >> > >> DFTs are a common artifact in digital signal processing. Lots of > >> Debian packages are focused on FFTs (Fast Fourier Transforms, a way of > >> computing DFTs). Nevertheless i couldn't find either a standard file > >> format to store one, or software specifically for viewing DFTs. > >> > >> Of course, lots of software can take data, then transform it, then > >> display the transform that it created, but i would like something that > >> can take an already created DFT in some standard format, then display > >> it. > >> > >> TIA for any information or pointers or advice from anybody! :) > >> > >> dan > > > > A useful set of expertise is available at the USENET group at comp.dsp . > > HTH > > Thanks Richard. > > Maybe you're exactly right, because if i can find any free software > that's relevant to what i want, then i can probably get it to Debian. > (If i have something specific, then can bring it up here in fact if i > have trouble installing it.) > > How do you normally access usenet? > > In the old days (meaning, decades ago) i used to read usenet with rn. ask for an account on (€10 per year) http://www.individual.net/ install leafnode and slrn on Debian [snip] -- Eike Lantzsch ZP6CGE Hay potentes, impotentes y prepotentes.
Re: Missing KDE "Switch user" command in Stretch
On Sunday, October 29, 2017 4:45:34 PM -03 Roger Lynn wrote: > On 19/10/17 00:43, Roger Lynn wrote: > > Hi, > > > > When I upgraded to Stretch I lost the "Switch user" command from the Leave > > section of the KDE launcher menu, from the KDE lock screen and from the > > SDDM login screen. This should give the choice of activating an existing > > session or starting a new one. Without it, it is difficult to tell if I > > am already logged in, so I am in danger of creating duplicate sessions. > > > > The login screen used to have a menu with "Cancel Session", "Remote Login" > > and "Console Login" commands too. These have also disappeared. > > So does nobody here use KDE? Or do those of you that use KDE not have > "Switch user" commands and not mind? Or does does it all work perfectly for > you? Should I switch to a different display manager and screen locker, or do > I need a completely different desktop environment? > > Roger KDE on Stretch here. But sorry can't help. My KDE-leave dialog still has "switch user" on Stretch. I used testing until shortly before the release of Stretch. I changed "testing" to "stretch" in the souces.list to stay with Stable for a while. That way I didn't do a real update. But I remember that I had to revert to another theme at some time during my use of testing, because SDDM lost some functionality on the way. Maybe you like to check that out too. here -> Look and Feel: Breeze Desktop theme: Air Splash screen: Oxygen Login Screen (SDDM): Breeze -- Eike Lantzsch ZP6CGE
Re: Loosing my mind with sending an E-Mail...
On Saturday, 7 October 2017 00:22:19 -03 Markus Grunwald wrote: > Hello, > > > I'm loosing my mind. Why is that email disappearing? > > Well, lost my mind. Thunderbird treated it as spam (doh!) So Thunderbird is actually expecting sentences in German language to make sense? SCNR -- Eike Lantzsch ZP6CGE Hay potentes, impotentes y prepotentes.
Re: No ifconfig
On Monday, 21 August 2017 15:08:11 -04 Christian Seiler wrote: > Am 2017-08-21 14:50, schrieb Greg Wooledge: > > [missing features in ifconfig] > > (Like Gene, I don't even know what those featues *are*.) > > From my personal experience, the following two things are > features I'm actually using regularly and that don't work > with it: > > 1. IPv6 doesn't really work properly (as explained elsewhere > by other people in this thread) > 2. Can't add multiple IP addresses to the same interface and > (worse) even if multiple IP addresses are assigned to the > same interfaces it only shows the primary address Yes, I ask myself why this isn't possible on Linux: ifconfig enp3s0 inet alias 192.168.12.206 netmask 255.255.255.0 while it is perfectly possible on OpenBSD (with the correct device of course). I wonder which brainstorm resulted in writing ip instead of rewriting ifconfig - from scratch if necessary - with backwards compatibility. I still can't decide for myself whether having same-name-tools with subtle differences between Linux and BSD is better or not than having different tools with different names altogether and deal with it. > > (2) is really bad, especially the part where it does not show > all of the IPs that were assigned by other tools, for example > NetworkManager, or Debian's own ifupdown via > /etc/network/interfaces. Yes, and why can it not "ifconfig -A" as the BSD-ifconfig can? > There was VMS and then WNT was made - better(?) but a totally different approach - unfortunately the tools coming with WNT were crippled and not very consistent and the concept of i-nodes was implemented but never really used - but I digress. At least ip is more versatile than (Lin)-ifconfig - so there is an improvement. Will Linux now be the CTE - a totally different approach than BSD? or shall the "ux" be sacrificed by distributions and we keep the "Lin"? Linux is just the kernel. The distributions took the Linux-kernel and built a Unix-like system around it. Now it is more like they build a system according to their liking and fit it with the Linux-kernel or maybe any other in the future. That seems to be similar to the path Apple took with the Mach kernel. Kind regards, Eike -- Eike Lantzsch ZP6CGE
Re: The End
On Thursday, 17 August 2017 03:37:38 -04 Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희, 黃 炳熙) wrote: > Dear Eike, > > Eike Lantzsch <zp6...@gmx.net> 께서 쓰시길, > > 《記事 全文 <1768501.bNH75oQlMl@lxcl01> 에서》: > > Don't know if this is relevant: > > I had the problem of not pingable IP with my cable-ISP. ISP told me that > > they are not blocking anything. Turned out that the Motorola cable modem > > blocked the ICMP packages and it could not be convinced to let them > > through. Lightning "solved" this problem - ISP installed another modem > > (another brand) which I can now happily configure myself and voila: IP is > > pingable. > > > > So maybe that it's not your ISP but the d... modem? > > Thanks for kind replying. But my ISP is Samsung Galaxy smartphone (mobile > hotspot). I have no idea still. Again, thanks for your time, indeed ... > > Sincerely, Byung-Hee. Dear Byung-Hee, in that case it might help to install he.net - Network Tools by Hurricane Electric on your smartphone to analyze the problem further. It might be that you are not yet at the end of your tether. I wish you success Eike -- Eike Lantzsch ZP6CGE
Re: The End(Was: Re: IPv6 for Ubuntu on Chromebook)
On Wednesday, 16 August 2017 20:03:31 -04 Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희, 黃 炳熙) wrote: > >> B. You have a tunnel account for IPv6 service. > > Just i did try, but the tunnel broker said: > > "IP is not ICMP pingable. Please make sure ICMP is not blocked." > > Well i have no lucky for IPv6, thanks!!! > > Sincerely, Byung-Hee. Don't know if this is relevant: I had the problem of not pingable IP with my cable-ISP. ISP told me that they are not blocking anything. Turned out that the Motorola cable modem blocked the ICMP packages and it could not be convinced to let them through. Lightning "solved" this problem - ISP installed another modem (another brand) which I can now happily configure myself and voila: IP is pingable. So maybe that it's not your ISP but the d... modem? Sincerely Eike -- Eike Lantzsch ZP6CGE
Re: [solved] Re: Live recording
On Sunday, 6 August 2017 11:31:29 -04 Richard Hector wrote: > On 05/08/17 03:56, Rodolfo Medina wrote: > > Thanks to all. The problem seems to be solved with such a cable: > > https://www.thomann.de/at/pro_snake_78219_yadapterkabel.htm > > Except that it's hard to tell what size those connectors are. Unless > there's something in the description that I can't read that says they're > 3.5mm, they look to me more like 6.25mm. I'm not sure what it is - I > think 3.5mm plugs are usually more rounded on the end, while the larger > ones often have that point. Also, it looks like the case comes apart, > and I think the only ones I've seen with such skinny bodies are moulded > plastic. If that's 3.5mm, I think it would be very hard to assemble by > hand, which the body designs suggest. > > Richard here's a good write-up of phone connectors of all kind https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phone_connector_(audio)
Re: [solved] Re: Live recording
On Sunday, 6 August 2017 11:31:29 -04 Richard Hector wrote: > On 05/08/17 03:56, Rodolfo Medina wrote: > > Thanks to all. The problem seems to be solved with such a cable: > > https://www.thomann.de/at/pro_snake_78219_yadapterkabel.htm > > Except that it's hard to tell what size those connectors are. Unless > there's something in the description that I can't read that says they're > 3.5mm, they look to me more like 6.25mm. I'm not sure what it is - I > think 3.5mm plugs are usually more rounded on the end, while the larger > ones often have that point. Also, it looks like the case comes apart, > and I think the only ones I've seen with such skinny bodies are moulded > plastic. If that's 3.5mm, I think it would be very hard to assemble by > hand, which the body designs suggest. > > Richard 3.5mm and 2.5mm plugs can be soldered all right but the problem mostly is to purchase the really fine cable with two inner conductors, both shielded. Common "Stereo Shielded Cable" is commonly too fat and its use always results in ugly and unwieldy kludges. Sometimes I resorted to reusing the cables of old earphone sets, which I had otherwise no use for anymore. Cheers Eike
Re: [solved] Re: Live recording
On Sunday, 6 August 2017 11:31:29 -04 Richard Hector wrote: > On 05/08/17 03:56, Rodolfo Medina wrote: > > Thanks to all. The problem seems to be solved with such a cable: > > https://www.thomann.de/at/pro_snake_78219_yadapterkabel.htm > That's 1/4" ~ 6.35mm Stereo on one end and 2 x mono on the other end but both 6.35mm > Except that it's hard to tell what size those connectors are. Unless > there's something in the description that I can't read that says they're > 3.5mm, they look to me more like 6.25mm. I'm not sure what it is - I > think 3.5mm plugs are usually more rounded on the end, while the larger > ones often have that point. Also, it looks like the case comes apart, > and I think the only ones I've seen with such skinny bodies are moulded > plastic. If that's 3.5mm, I think it would be very hard to assemble by > hand, which the body designs suggest. > > Richard
Re: In Desigh
On Monday, 31 July 2017 23:40:52 -04 Ivan Petrov wrote: > Is it possible to use Adobe In Desigh with crossover or wine? > > I Does not seem to work https://www.codeweavers.com/compatibility/crossover/adobe-indesign-cs5
Re: How to gain control over the system? [a security-side-note]
On Sunday, 9 July 2017 14:54:02 -04 Kaj Persson wrote: > Thank you all for thoughts and viewpoints on what can be wrong in my > installation of Debian 9. I have looked through places I might expect > can contain some explanation, but so far I have not been able to exclaim > an "Ah, that's it!". Here are some of my observations: > > * First source of install: Well, I do know I wrote that used the live > image, but to be honest, for now I am not sure, I do not remember. I had > downloaded the live image as well as the install image, and most > probable choice would be the later. But I do not know. Anyway the > install process itself went without any problems. > > * At the install I made it fully new from the bottom. The only directory > I kept unchanged was my home directory. This is situated on an own > partition. All the others were reformatted: /, /boot, /usr, /var and > /tmp. All these are on individual partitions while e.g. /etc is > contained in the root partition. At earlier installations I have noticed > that the home directory can contain wrong configuration files, so as a > test I moved all hidden files i.e. files starting with a dot to a new > created directory "hidden". This was however after the install. So at a > subsequent cold start the system had no configuration files there but > created new ones with default values. This however had no positive > impact on my problem. > > * Configuring sudo? No I have not done that explicitly, not more than > what the install program did itself. I have looked at /etc/sudoers and > what I think the important lines are: > > # User privilege specification > rootALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL > > # Allow members of group sudo to execute any command > %sudo ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL There the "security" went out of the building ... Please have a look here: https://blather.michaelwlucas.com/archives/2266 > > #includedir /etc/sudoers.d > > In /etc/sudoers.d there are no more files than README. > > There is no /etc/sudo.conf file. > > * Regarding access to my user directory: During my search I did in fact > find some files and directories owned by user root or group root. These > are changed to be owned by my user id and group id, but this did not > help. By the way, On this computer I have always had just one user, > mine, and hence got the user id 1000 and group id 1000. This is the case > now too. > > uid 1000 is a member of the sudo group. > > * As I wrote I have always used this method of not setting any password > to the root account, and this is for quite many years now. My Linux path > has gone via Ubuntu, well to be honest a couple of years after the > Microsoft era I ran in Suse, but was not fully satisfied. And when > Ubuntu and Canonical introduced Unity, I left that ship for Linux Mint > Debian edition (LMDE) until I took the last(?) step into Debian a couple > of years ago where the entrance point was jessie. The empty root > password has always worked fine until now. Possibly Ubuntu has patched > the sudologin but should LMDE? And jessie? I do not think so. > I didn't try this myself (didn't ever have to) but this might help for now: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/205799/how-to-create-root-user-account-in-debian > > Hope someone can find something significant in this and give a hint on > what to do. I'd first try to go through the installation with the netinstall and without reusing any home partition in a virtual machine. See if the problem is there too. If yes: place a bug-report. If not: take a snapshot for later put back the home partition, see if the problem is there or not. If yes: restore the snapshot. And start putting back the config files for LMDE. ... gradually testing out what can be reused and what not. ... on second thought: I wouldn't invest the time ... If the install in the virtual machine is doing allright, I'd just do the exact same install on the real hardware and be happy. Have a nice day Eike
Re: Stretch generates SLAAC IPv6 address even with /etc/network/interfaces set to manual static address
On Wednesday, 5 July 2017 22:14:22 -04 Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Wed, 05 Jul 2017 14:09:24 -0400 > > Eike Lantzsch <zp6...@gmx.net> wrote: > > Hi to all! > > > > I'm trying to teach myself to work with IPv6. > > > > On a Stretch client I'd like to have manually set static IPv6 addresses. > > But what I get are SLAAC addresses with $prefix + MAC-derived according to > > the IEEE-Tutorial EUI-64 . > > I can cope with a SLAAC address AND an additional manual static address on > > the same interface - no problem - but what is going on here? Why is the > > manual address in the file "/etc/network/interfaces" ignored? > > What is it that I don't understand? > > What about good old "ifdown enp3s0; ifup -v enp3s0"? > > It should shed some light on what's happening. > A quick test in my current environment shows that stretch's ifupdown is > working as expected, i.e. 'inet6 static' stanza is honored and SLAAC > advertisements are ignored. > > Reco Thanks to Ulf Vollmer, Christian Seiler and Reco. I'm going to try your recommendations but I have to wait until weekend 'cause I'll be busy with other stuff in the next days. Will come back with results later. Cheers Eike
Re: Einstellungen in Kontact
On Wednesday, 5 July 2017 23:25:26 -04 Michael Lange wrote: > On Wed, 5 Jul 2017 21:42:20 +0100 > > Michael Fothergill <michael.fotherg...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Dear Sir, > > > > Please use a German mailing list. > > > > Regds > > > > MF > > > > > > > > Zieht den Bayern die Lederhosen aus > > > > Voller Spannung und voller Spass, > > leg ich mich ins grüne Gras. > > Es ist Samstag und wir können feiern, > > heute kommt der FC Bayern. > > Alle sind hier guter Dinge, > > und überall hört man sie singen: > > > > Zieht den Bayern die Lederhosen aus, Lederhosen aus, Lederhosen aus > > Zieht den Bayern die Lederhosen aus, Lederhosen aus, Lederhosen aus > > (a.s.o.) > > Hahaha :-)) > > +1 > > But... how do you know he is a Bayern München fan?? :-) > > Regards > > Michael [grin] "_hbg" might be Hamburg. Of course there are Bayern-München fans in Hamburg but he might be a fan of St. Pauli or HSV for that matter or no fan at all ... E.g. my grandchildren are living in Upper Palatinate (Bavaria) but they favour Manchester United - who would have guessed? For the record: Checking KMail (with Kontact) here on Stretch, closing it and opening it again, the columns for mail folder, unread, total and size are maintained and KMail (Kontact) comes up as adjusted before closing it. I think that there might be a permissions problem in the home folder. Experience also shows that it is advisable to rename the .kde folder and adjust the KDE desktop environment from scratch. There is too much cruft left which seems to confuse KDE unpredictably when .kde is carried over from one mayor version to the next. I ran along with testing and changed my apt sources to Stretch shortly before the freeze but I remember such problems along the way with testing when I reinstalled my system on other hardware and at first just copied over my home folder. To solve weird problems I had to delete .kde and adjust it from scratch. With trial and error I was eventually able to copy some parts of the old .kde over into the new installation without introducing strange behaviour. But the investment of time is not worth it. I sent Matthias a response to his mail address in German. Cheers 2 all -- Eike Lantzsch ZP6CGE Agencia Shopping del Sol Casilla de Correo 13005 1749 Asuncion / Paraguay
Stretch generates SLAAC IPv6 address even with /etc/network/interfaces set to manual static address
Hi to all! I'm trying to teach myself to work with IPv6. On a Stretch client I'd like to have manually set static IPv6 addresses. But what I get are SLAAC addresses with $prefix + MAC-derived according to the IEEE-Tutorial EUI-64 . I can cope with a SLAAC address AND an additional manual static address on the same interface - no problem - but what is going on here? Why is the manual address in the file "/etc/network/interfaces" ignored? What is it that I don't understand? I don't have such problem with OpenBSD-clients - only with Debian Stretch. Is it a bug, a misconfiguration or is it me misunderstanding IPv6 address schemes? excerpt of my /etc/network/interfaces: # The primary network interface auto enp3s0 allow-hotplug enp3s0 iface enp3s0 inet static address 192.168.12.21 netmask 255.255.255.0 network 192.168.12.0 gateway 192.168.12.1 # dns-* options are implemented by the resolvconf package, if installed dns-nameservers nnn.nnn.nnn.nnn nnn.nnn.nnn.nnn 2001:470:20::2 74.82.42.42 dns-search MYDOMAIN.co.py # /48 network obtained from HE which allows subnets iface enp3s0 inet6 static address 2001:470:7075:e2::21 netmask 64 gateway 2001:470:7075:e2:: Anyway I get ip addr: 2: enp3s0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state UP group default qlen 1000 link/ether 78:24:af:37:6d:60 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff inet 192.168.12.21/24 brd 192.168.12.255 scope global enp3s0 valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever inet6 2001:470:7075:e2:7a24:afff:fe37:6d60/64 scope global mngtmpaddr \ dynamic valid_lft 2591999sec preferred_lft 604799sec inet6 fe80::7a24:afff:fe37:6d60/64 scope link valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever Ideally I'd like static private addresses to route through to the IN but static manual addresses used only in my internal network. But that will be an exercise for later. What about "autoconf 0" in /etc/network/interfaces - would that help? But according to man interfaces that is the default - or isn't it? Or would iface enp3s0 inet6 static address 2001:470:7075:e2::21/64 gateway 2001:470:7075:e2:: be any better? Thanks for your consideration. Eike -- Eike Lantzsch ZP6CGE Zuviel Zucker ist ungesund. Daher: Tragt den Zuckerberg ab!
