GNOME Volume Manager / HAL issues
Hi, Since a recent update of hal and or GNOME Volume manager two of my disk partitions get mounted automatically and show up on the desktop. Both these partitions I added to fstab with a noauto option so that they normally didn't get mounted. I'd prefer gnome volume manager not to mount these two drives automatically. Anybody knows how I can get that done. Question number 2. HAL can automatically update /etc/fstab but I can't find out how I can this to work. Jaap BTW I'm running a totally uptodate Debian sid -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How popular is Debian (popularity contest)
William Ballard wrote: On Sun, Aug 08, 2004 at 12:19:54PM +0200, Jaap Haitsma wrote: Are there only around 1000 debian users on the world (assumption 60% of them sends reports) Why would you assume that? I don't use popcon; it's possible that 99.9% of users don't use it. Who knows? Oops, I meant to write 10,000. The worst case is that there are only 6000 Debian users around the globe. So I thought maybe not everybody sends reports. So maybe there are 10,000 users. That seems to me like a very low number. There are around 500M people on the Internet. According to Google stats 1% of them is using Linux. So there are around 5M users of Linux. Then only 10,000 out of these 5M are Debian users!!! That doesn't seem right to me Jaap -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How popular is Debian (popularity contest)
I came across this website http://popcon.debian.org/ It shows statistics how many people have installed a certain package on what kind of system etc. etc. If you want to anonymously report what packages you are using you have to have the popularity-contest package installed. I guess many people using Debian have it installed. That's why I was amazed that the number of submissions is only around 6000. Are there only around 1000 debian users on the world (assumption 60% of them sends reports) Also 9 architectures have 20 or less submissions. 3 architectures have only 1 submission. Seems to me supporting all these architectures for all the developers is quite some burden just to help out a few users. Is there something wrong with my reasoning??? Jaap -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
apt-listchanges
I installed apt-listchanges. And now see during an apt-get or in synaptic that the changelogs are being read. But I don't see see the changelogs. From the man pages I know that I have to change /etc/apt/listchanges.conf and I mucked around a bit but still do not see anything Can anybody advice me on how to setup apt-listchanges? Jaap -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fonts in Open Office not anti aliased
Thomas Adam wrote: --- Jaap Haitsma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, All my applications have nice anti aliased fonts except for openoffice. I suggest you check the BTS again. I see a number of possible complaints to yours [1]. I'm probably a moron but I don't see a bug similar to mine If that doesn't work, I'd next look at whether you're using defoma (DEbian FOnt MAngler). I'm using defoma. What about it??? -- Thomas Adam [1] http://bugs.debian.org/openoffice.org Jaap -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Internet radio in rhytmbox not working
Hi, If I try to connect to internet radio in rhythmbox 0.8.5 I get two error message which look like this: "Could not open vfs file "http://213.73.255.244:8000"; for reading" and "Could not pause playback" Anybody knows how to get it working?? Thanks Jaap -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fonts in Open Office not anti aliased
Hi, All my applications have nice anti aliased fonts except for openoffice. I've been already searching the web for quite a while but haven't found the solution. I found a document though with which you can see if open office is using anti aliased fonts: http://mumford1.dyndns.org/~bs7452/linuxhelp/aa_test.sxw Does somebody know how I get anti aliased fonts in OpenOffice? Thanks, Jaap BTW I'm running completely uptodate Debian SID -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Log out in Gnome 2.6 hangs PC
After running upgrading to Gnome 2.6 also X got upgraded my PC hangs after I click on logout in the gnome menu. Any ideas how to get this fixed?? Thanks Jaap -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X resolution changed by upgrading to Gnome 2.6
I just upgraded to gnome 2.6, also X got upgraded. Problem is that resolution of X changed from 1024x768 to 800x600. Running xf86config does not seem to help and in desktop preferences / screen resolution in gnome the 1024x768 resolution is not even listed. Any ideas?? Jaap I'm running SID on a Dell Latitude laptop with an ATI Rage video card -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gnome volume manager does not automatically mount cdrom (Solved it)
Jaap Haitsma wrote: I installed gnome-volume-manager and it mounts my memory stick automatically and also audio cd's are being played automatically when I insert an audio cd. Only data CD's do not get mounted automatically and also empty CD-R's do not startup the burner in nautilus. Anybody knows how to fix this? Jaap I'm running Sid with the 2.6.5 kernel and have devfs disabled by passing devfs=nomount to the kernel OK I solved this one. It seems that gvm does not recognize soft links. I have a link from /dev/cdrom pointing to /dev/hdc If I then have the following line in fstab /dev/cdrom /cdrom udf,iso9660 noauto,user,ro 0 0 it doesn't work If I change this to /dev/hdc /cdrom udf,iso9660 noauto,user,ro 0 0 it does. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
gnome volume manager does not automatically mount cdrom
I installed gnome-volume-manager and it mounts my memory stick automatically and also audio cd's are being played automatically when I insert an audio cd. Only data CD's do not get mounted automatically and also empty CD-R's do not startup the burner in nautilus. Anybody knows how to fix this? Jaap I'm running Sid with the 2.6.5 kernel and have devfs disabled by passing devfs=nomount to the kernel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Burning CD's in nautilus (Solved it)
Jaap Haitsma wrote: I can burn CD's with tools like xcdroast but if I try it with nautilus, it recognizes my cd rom burner but if I then do a Write CD it keeps on telling me to insert a blank CD while I already have a blank CD in my CD burner. Any ideas? It works now. I had to add my user account to the group cdrom Jaap -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: No sound with Kernel 2.6.5-1 package (atiixp)
Wolfgang Lonien wrote: Jaap Haitsma wrote: [2.6.5 and maestro] Hi Jaap, since noone answered until now, I just wanted to tell you that I have the same problem with one of the companies' laptops here - that's an older ASUS L8400). It seems to be some kind of interrupt problem for me, because after the first reboot into the new kernel I got some kind of distorted sound (like they have in these science fiction movies before the escape doors are finally shut ;-) I read the kernel list a bit, but since I mostly *work* with that machine, the problem wasn't urgent enough for me so far - but if I see a soultion somewhere, I'll be back to you... I forgot to mention that have DELL latitude C600 laptop and I also get weird very noisy sounds mostly. First time I didn't get any sound but now with every reboot I get this noisy sounds Jaap -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Burning CD's in nautilus
Pigeon wrote: On Sun, Apr 11, 2004 at 07:31:57PM +0200, Jaap Haitsma wrote: I can burn CD's with tools like xcdroast but if I try it with nautilus, it recognizes my cd rom burner but if I then do a Write CD it keeps on telling me to insert a blank CD while I already have a blank CD in my CD burner. Any ideas? I've occasionally had this happen with cdrecord; the workaround was to eject the CD then load it again, which seemed to reset whatever was causing cdrecord to get its knickers in a twist. That doesn't help. It seems almost that it even isn't checking if there is a blank CD, because it returns immediately after clicking on OK with the same dialog -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Burning CD's in nautilus
I can burn CD's with tools like xcdroast but if I try it with nautilus, it recognizes my cd rom burner but if I then do a Write CD it keeps on telling me to insert a blank CD while I already have a blank CD in my CD burner. Any ideas? Jaap -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Adding Xfce4 to the GDM sessions menu
Adam Funk wrote: On Saturday 10 April 2004 18:30, Bob Schlärmann wrote: GDM recently switched to a new session file format based on .desktop files. Look in /usr/share/xsessions for some example .desktop files, i've got the following in xfce.desktop: [Desktop Entry] Name=Xfce4 Comment=Xfce4 Exec=/usr/bin/xfce4-session # no icon yet, only the top three are currently used Icon= Type=Application While sorting this problem out, I noticed that /etc/gdm/Sessions/Xfce4 contains the following: #!/bin/sh exec /etc/X11/Xsession /usr/bin/xfce4-session What's the practical difference between running /usr/bin/xfce4-session and exec /etc/X11/Xsession /usr/bin/xfce4-session ? Also, for the more complicated scripts (e.g., /etc/gdm/Sessions/Gnome), should I just use Exec=/etc/gdm/Sessions/Gnome in gnome.desktop? I think that new version of gdm don't look at these scripts anymore but just the .desktop file. BTW for Gnome Exec should /usr/bin/gnome-session Jaap -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Broken Gnome on upgrade
James Hosken wrote: I've just run apt-get update && apt-get upgrade and it seams to have broken gnome. When you login at the gdm it comes up with an error of "Your prefered session type GDM_Failsafe. Gnome desktop is not installed on this machine. Do you wish to make Failsafe Gnome the default?" If you click through the menu, it loads a failsafe version of Gnome. Gnome was working fine before I update and upgraded, so Gnome was installed, unlike the error message said. I've googled and not found any thing on this, I have also tried to dpkg-reconfigure gnome, but that doesn't seam to do any think. Please can some one help me out, this is really anoying me. Does the following file exist /usr/share/xsessions/gnome.desktop ? It should have the following contents: [Desktop Entry] Encoding=UTF-8 Name=GNOME Comment=This session logs you into GNOME Exec=/usr/bin/gnome-session # no icon yet, only the top three are currently used Icon= Type=Application Cheers, Jaap -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
No sound with Kernel 2.6.5-1 package (atiixp)
I just installed kernel 2.6.5 but now my sound isn't working anymore. I have an ESS maestro sound card. The maestro3 sound driver still gets loaded, but no sound. During booting of the kernel (before init) I get an error message: ERROR removing atiixp: device or resource busy I don't understand that it got loaded at all. I do not have a soundcard that needs that driver. What I also do not understand that it got loaded during the booting of the kernel. It's compiled as a module in the kernel package. Can anybody shed some light over this??? Jaap -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sessions disappeared in the GDM menu!
Adam Funk wrote: I just did an apt-get upgrade and now the GDM sessions menu has been cut down to Default (which is KDM), Failsafe GNOME and Failsafe something else. /etc/gdm/Sessions still contains all the previous launch scripts: /etc/gdm/Sessions $ ls -l total 24 -rwxr-xr-x1 root root 34 2003-10-23 10:25 Debian -rwxr-xr-x1 root root 3089 2003-10-23 10:25 Gnome -rwxr-xr-x1 root root 115 2004-01-30 04:05 KDE -rwxr-xr-x1 root root 76 2004-01-23 15:37 WindowMaker -rwxr-xr-x1 root root 102 2004-03-09 18:40 Xfce4 -rwxr-xr-x1 root root 3859 2003-10-23 10:25 Xsession but GDM is ignoring them. Why, and how do I fix this (preferably quickly)? Recent version of gdm get there sessions from /usr/share/xsessions For example to have xfce4 showup. Put xfce.desktop in /usr/share/xessions with the following contents [Desktop Entry] Name=Xfce4 Comment=Xfce4 Exec=/usr/bin/xfce4-session # no icon yet, only the top three are currently used Icon= Type=Application Jaap -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Adding Xfce4 to the GDM sessions menu
Bob Schlärmann wrote: On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 15:07:41 +0200 Jaap Haitsma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... What I cannot find out where gdm gets the info about the available sessions. For example I first had also KDE installed and it was in the GDM recently switched to a new session file format based on .desktop files. Look in /usr/share/xsessions for some example .desktop files, i've got the following in xfce.desktop: [Desktop Entry] Name=Xfce4 Comment=Xfce4 Exec=/usr/bin/xfce4-session # no icon yet, only the top three are currently used Icon= Type=Application btw the i thought the same question was asked some days ago. Thanks, this made it work :-) Sorry to have missed the other post. Didn't show up in my google searches :-( -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Adding Xfce4 to the GDM sessions menu
Hi, Up till now I was always running Gnome, but yesterday I decided to have a go at Xfce4 so installed the Xfce4 packages. This seemed to go OK, but I'm still not able to get it listed in the GDM sessions menu. I already did quite some googling but still no luck. In /etc/gdm/Sessions there is an xfce4 script which has the right permissions. What I cannot find out where gdm gets the info about the available sessions. For example I first had also KDE installed and it was in the session menu. Then I wiped away KDE and it was still in the sessions menu. I think after some update of gdm it was removed from the session menu, but in /etc/gdm/Sessions there is still a KDE script. So how can I get a session and in particular Xfce4 added to GDM? Jaap BTW I'm running SID -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hotplug: The Continuing Saga
David Baron wrote: I think this module is getting crazier with every update. Last two versions on bootup, "unknown interface sit0:-hotplug" Last version: More repeated module loads AND repeated listings of blacklisted modules (some of which were blacklisted to clean up the repeated listings) :-) Good old (new for 2.6 kernels) uhci-hcd still hangs up on shutdown. I have it blacklisted so I can shutdown correctly. (Can live without the USB-MIDI interface for now.) This is apparently a kernel, not a hotplug problem since I tried this with usbmgr as well. I'm seeing similar things :-( Jaap -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt-get in a webbrowser
> On Wednesday 07 April 2004 11:29 am, Jaap Haitsma wrote: > -STUFF SNIPPED--- >> However it's not exactly what I was thinking of. Webmin-software doesn't >> really bring something new to tools like synaptic or aptitude etc. OK >> it's running in a browser and you can access it from a remote PC >> >> What I was referring to that you have something Click N Run of Lindows. >> So the user browses packages.debian.org and then clicks on a link on >> that page and then the package get installed. This is really non-tech >> savy friendly. >> >> You could take it even further that you make something like >> my.debian.org where you register your PC and where you can see if there >> are upgrades etc. If your system crashes you can just go there and get >> every package you had installed installed again. etc. etc. >> >> You could even save your settings there. So getting a new PC up and >> running will be a breeze. >> >> >> Jaap > --REPLY- > You can do this all now if you are using KDE3.XX with KPackage. > In fact if you also use apt-listbugs you can tiptoe around Sarge with a > fair > amount of imunity to bugs, you only need to be sure that the package has > not > been recently updated on the site. It will only advise of bugs if a bug > report has been filed :-) > -- > John Foster > KPackage is just a frontend like synaptic for gnome. I think doing everything webbased could be even better for the consumer. It would be an experience like buying a book at amazon. Users can add reviews, ratings, screenshots links to other sites etc. etc. And then if you like it you click on the install button and it gets installed. Jaap -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt-get in a webbrowser
S.D.A. wrote: On Mon, Apr 05, 2004 at 09:52:43PM +0200 or thereabouts, Jaap Haitsma wrote: S.D.A. wrote: On Mon, Apr 05, 2004 at 07:33:36PM +0200 or thereabouts, Jaap Haitsma wrote: Are people working on this? I dunno if they are, but this capability exits already, with a plug-in for Webmin. Can you elaborate a bit more on this??? Just download Webmin, and the associated plugin for software. aptitude search webmin: aptitude install webmin webmin-software If you don't have aptitude installed, I suggest you grab it first, or use apt-get. Thanks I played a bit with it and I have to say it's a very nice peace of software (the whole webmin environment). However it's not exactly what I was thinking of. Webmin-software doesn't really bring something new to tools like synaptic or aptitude etc. OK it's running in a browser and you can access it from a remote PC What I was referring to that you have something Click N Run of Lindows. So the user browses packages.debian.org and then clicks on a link on that page and then the package get installed. This is really non-tech savy friendly. You could take it even further that you make something like my.debian.org where you register your PC and where you can see if there are upgrades etc. If your system crashes you can just go there and get every package you had installed installed again. etc. etc. You could even save your settings there. So getting a new PC up and running will be a breeze. Jaap -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upgrading 2.4 to 2.6 kernel problems
Is there a command to see everything? In initscripts_2.85-9 there's bootlogd, which logs all the stuff that comes from running the init.d scripts. You have to stick "BOOTLOGD_ENABLE=Yes" in /etc/default/bootlogd. Thanks a lot this is great :-). Everything just get's logged in /var/log/boot Jaap -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upgrading 2.4 to 2.6 kernel problems
Dr.-Ing. C. Hurschler wrote: Hi, I have the same thing happening. The display dims at some point during booting. I don't think it has anything to do with hotplug though, because removing it didn't change anything on my system. Anyone else know what might be causing this? I'm using a 2.6.3 kernel compiled from the deb source packages with k6 support. I'm using the aty128fb driver, and ati in XFree86 4.3.0.1, with fb turned off. Chris, For me it was the aty128fb driver which caused the problem. I'm now using the VESA driver. In XFree86 I also have my video card set to ATI Jaap -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt-get in a webbrowser
S.D.A. wrote: On Mon, Apr 05, 2004 at 07:33:36PM +0200 or thereabouts, Jaap Haitsma wrote: Hi, When installing new apps I find myself searching on packages.debian.org and then look at changelogs descriptions and maybe go to the site where the development to read something about the app and then finally do an apt-install or I run synaptic. I think it would be fantastic if the whole thing including installation would be completely web based. I.e you install the packages by clicking on a link on the webpage. Advantages are: * Just one simple interface taking care of the searching / browsing / selection and installing * It is extremely user friendly * Maintainer can very easily update information/documentation It's a bit like running apt inside your browser. Are people working on this? I dunno if they are, but this capability exits already, with a plug-in for Webmin. Can you elaborate a bit more on this??? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upgrading 2.4 to 2.6 kernel problems
Clive Menzies wrote: On (05/04/04 10:24), Mike Chandler wrote: I understand what I need to do now, putting stuff in /etc/hotplug/"blacklist", but the problem is that while booting, the stuff goes by so fast, I can't actually pick out any names...I just can't see that fast! I guess I can live with this, till the hotplug issue gets sorted out. Thanks for the replies. You can see the boot messages by typing "dmesg" This only shows the kernel messages not all the text that is printed during init. Jaap -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
apt-get in a webbrowser
Hi, When installing new apps I find myself searching on packages.debian.org and then look at changelogs descriptions and maybe go to the site where the development to read something about the app and then finally do an apt-install or I run synaptic. I think it would be fantastic if the whole thing including installation would be completely web based. I.e you install the packages by clicking on a link on the webpage. Advantages are: * Just one simple interface taking care of the searching / browsing / selection and installing * It is extremely user friendly * Maintainer can very easily update information/documentation It's a bit like running apt inside your browser. Are people working on this? Jaap PS Don't get me wrong, Debian has the best package management system I've seen so far, but things can always be improved -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GTK and antialias
Kaj Wiik wrote: It looks like gtk disables antialiasing between font sizes 8-16 pt, changing /etc/XftConfig has absolutely no effect. So, can anyone tell where this can be adjusted? I have latest gtk/gnome packages from testing, e.g. 'xterm -fa "Bitstream Vera" -fs 10' works perfectly so my setup should be otherwise ok.. Anyone..? Cheers, Try dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig and enable the autohinter Jaap -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can't use GUI as root
>> > I'm running sid and I can login to root from the console but when I >> try >> > to startx if fails, the same happens with the graphical login manager. >> I >> > don't have any problem using a normal user. >> > >> > Anybody know what's the problem? >> >> Problem exists between keyboard and chair. Don't log in as root. Log >> in as a normal user, and use su -m to run things as root. Then you're >> not running *nearly* as much while running as root, less potential to >> screw things up. > > Please notice that I'm not asking whether or not logging in as root is a > good > thing, I am asking if anybody knows why my system behaves like that; if > you > don't know the answer, fine, but please don't preach to me. > > Toshiro. Toshiro, I can login with gdm as root, but I had to enable it in gdmsetup. Paul, I can start x application if I login as myself and then do su -m, but if I do a su - it says it cannot open the display. Any idea how I have to set it up to get it working. Blame my ignorance but what's the bad thing of starting an x application under the root account? It works fine in other distros I used to use. Jaap -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unable to unmount /initrd during startup
Hi, I get a message during init that it is unable to unmount /initrd This is being called in initrd-tools.sh Also after booting I'm unable to unmount it manually. Anybody an idea what could be wrong? I'm running sid (fully up2date) with the 2.6.4 kernel Thanks Jaap -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian, gnome and shutdown again...
Sven Arvidsson wrote: * Michal R. Hoffmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-04-02 13:01:08]: hello, I have googled, but cannot find answer. Is any package which enable to "save-session-and-then-shutdown-computer"? Preferrably ordinary-user allowed, but this can be done with sudo. Perhaps this can be of interest? http://jodrell.net/gnome-hacks/hacks.html?id=31 http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2004-January/msg00552.html This doesn't seem to work for me.:( Is there somebody with a sid box, which has the suspend, shutdown and reboot options in the Actions/Logout dialog? Jaap -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upgrading 2.4 to 2.6 kernel problems
Jaap Haitsma wrote: Bill Thompson wrote: On Tue, 30 Mar 2004 23:32:11 +0200 Jaap Haitsma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, I upgraded my unstable system from kernel 2.4.25 to 2.6.4. I still have a couple of minor problems. 2. Just after loading all the modules the screen dims and characters turn from white to dark gray, which is very hard to read and all my virtual consoles are dimmed. Thanks Jaap For what it's worth, I have this VC problem on my SID box as well. It started after an apt-get dist-upgrade this weekend. However, before then I was running the system on 2.6 without this problem so it may not be related to the kernel. My suspicion is something in the ATI driver with Xfree86 4.3 is causing it but I have not had the chance to track it down far enough to make a bug report. Not much help, but at least your not alone ;). When and if I find a solution I'll post it to the list. I found what's causing my problems. It's hotplug. When I do not start the hotplug service the characters on my console stay white :-) and also many of the messages of of Already loaded modules dissapear. My system works now, but I guess it would be better to have hotplug running so it can detect usb devices and stuff, wouldn't it? I've now got hotplug running again I had to put aty128fb into the the blacklist of hotplug (/etc/hotplug/blacklist). Now my consoles have nice white letters :-) Thanks for all your help -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upgrading 2.4 to 2.6 kernel problems
Bill Thompson wrote: On Tue, 30 Mar 2004 23:32:11 +0200 Jaap Haitsma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, I upgraded my unstable system from kernel 2.4.25 to 2.6.4. I still have a couple of minor problems. 2. Just after loading all the modules the screen dims and characters turn from white to dark gray, which is very hard to read and all my virtual consoles are dimmed. Thanks Jaap For what it's worth, I have this VC problem on my SID box as well. It started after an apt-get dist-upgrade this weekend. However, before then I was running the system on 2.6 without this problem so it may not be related to the kernel. My suspicion is something in the ATI driver with Xfree86 4.3 is causing it but I have not had the chance to track it down far enough to make a bug report. Not much help, but at least your not alone ;). When and if I find a solution I'll post it to the list. I found what's causing my problems. It's hotplug. When I do not start the hotplug service the characters on my console stay white :-) and also many of the messages of of Already loaded modules dissapear. My system works now, but I guess it would be better to have hotplug running so it can detect usb devices and stuff, wouldn't it? Jaap -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upgrading 2.4 to 2.6 kernel problems
Ken Bloom wrote: On Tue, 30 Mar 2004 23:50:16 +0200, Jaap Haitsma wrote: Hi, I upgraded my unstable system from kernel 2.4.25 to 2.6.4. I still have a couple of minor problems. 1. After the kernel has booted and init is running when modprobe is trying to insert drivers it is complaining all the time about a whole list of drivers which already have been loaded. This is true but I don't see why modprobe should complain all the time and produce a list of around ten drivers which already have been loaded. So I guess there is something wrong with my setup. Should I install more stuff then the only the kernel image? For the 2.4 kernels for example there is the package kernel-pcmcia-modules and I run Debian on a laptop with PCMCIA and a wireless card. The stock kernels have been compiled with very different configurations between 2.4 and 2.6. Because the computer generally knows what modules to load at startup by reading a list of module names from /etc/modules, I'm not surprised that you would be getting several that had already been loaded - because you hadn't modified /etc/modules since the upgrade. Go ahead and ignore the errors, or remove the offending entries from /etc/modules and see whether things still work (they should). Things still work after an almost empty /etc/modules (I need to put psmouse there otherwise my mouse does not work in Gnome, but I also still see all the already loaded messages :-(. Is it possible that it has to do with running discover in the initscripts?? Jaap running discover in the initscripts. I haven't been able to -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upgrading 2.4 to 2.6 kernel problems
Bill Thompson wrote: On Tue, 30 Mar 2004 23:32:11 +0200 Jaap Haitsma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, I upgraded my unstable system from kernel 2.4.25 to 2.6.4. I still have a couple of minor problems. 2. Just after loading all the modules the screen dims and characters turn from white to dark gray, which is very hard to read and all my virtual consoles are dimmed. Thanks Jaap For what it's worth, I have this VC problem on my SID box as well. It started after an apt-get dist-upgrade this weekend. However, before then I was running the system on 2.6 without this problem so it may not be related to the kernel. My suspicion is something in the ATI driver with Xfree86 4.3 is causing it but I have not had the chance to track it down far enough to make a bug report. Not much help, but at least your not alone ;). When and if I find a solution I'll post it to the list. I don't think it's Xfree. With me the console gets dimmed during init before gdm gets loaded Jaap -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upgrading 2.4 to 2.6 kernel problems
Pigeon wrote: On Wed, Mar 31, 2004 at 09:05:09AM +0200, Jaap Haitsma wrote: Joan Tur wrote: Es Dimarts Mar? 30 2004 23:32, en Jaap Haitsma va escriure: 1. After the kernel has booted and init is running when modprobe is trying to insert drivers it is complaining all the time about a whole list of drivers which already have been loaded Do you have module-init-tools installed? You need to when using 2.6 kernels... Yes! (I guess this needs to be installed for 2.4 kernels as well because it contains modprobe and his friends) For booting 2.4 as well as 2.6, you need modutils >= 2.4.26 as well as module-init-tools. I've got this all installed. My system runs the latest bleeding edge debian packages. Jaap -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upgrading 2.4 to 2.6 kernel problems
Joan Tur wrote: Es Dimarts Març 30 2004 23:32, en Jaap Haitsma va escriure: 1. After the kernel has booted and init is running when modprobe is trying to insert drivers it is complaining all the time about a whole list of drivers which already have been loaded Do you have module-init-tools installed? You need to when using 2.6 kernels... Yes! (I guess this needs to be installed for 2.4 kernels as well because it contains modprobe and his friends) Visca Barca Jaap -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Upgrading 2.4 to 2.6 kernel problems
Hi, I upgraded my unstable system from kernel 2.4.25 to 2.6.4. I still have a couple of minor problems. 1. After the kernel has booted and init is running when modprobe is trying to insert drivers it is complaining all the time about a whole list of drivers which already have been loaded. This is true but I don't see why modprobe should complain all the time and produce a list of around ten drivers which already have been loaded. So I guess there is something wrong with my setup. Should I install more stuff then the only the kernel image? For the 2.4 kernels for example there is the package kernel-pcmcia-modules and I run Debian on a laptop with PCMCIA and a wireless card. 2. Just after loading all the modules the screen dims and characters turn from white to dark gray, which is very hard to read and all my virtual consoles are dimmed. Thanks Jaap Jaap -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to get Anti aliasing fonts in Gnome?
s. keeling wrote: Incoming from Jaap Haitsma: s. keeling wrote: Incoming from Jaap Haitsma: Jaap Haitsma wrote: I have the problem that anti aliasing does not seem to work. See for example the font in the attachment. I already browsed quite a bit on the web but didn't find the solution. BTW My system is a fresh install of Debian unstable using the Debian installer and then selecting Desktop for my installation. Forgot the attachment Looks fine to me, but I'm using fluxbox. http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html ?? Is there something wrong with my question. Well, yeah. Like I say, it looks fine to me. What are you seeing that makes you think it isn't alright? I'm not a graphic designer, nor am I much into the esthetics/esoterics of graphical display. I can read it, and it looks better than how Mozilla displays Slashdot text. So what do you want? I want it to look really nice. Until last week I was a fedora user and always loved the way it renders fonts, but the facts that it's not completely community driven and the availability of far less packages then Debian started and to bother me. Now I'm a very happy Debian user except for the font rendering. To demonstrate the problem better I attached three files: 1. debian-lt.png shows a webpage in debian 2. fedora-lt.png shows the same webpage in fedora (way better font rendering) 3. fedora-slashdot.png shows slashdot on fedora. As you can see the font rendering even on that site really rocks. Do you see the difference now?? It should be possible to get it like this in Debian as well. My only problem is how? Changing the font rendering in gnome-font-properties does not help. Jaap BTW I added the luxi ttfs to my debian box to get the same fonts as fedora. <><><>
Getting flash to work in firefox (solved it)
Just in case somebody runs into the same problem I needed to install the package libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 Jaap --- Hi, I installed the flash plugin from macromedia for firefox/mozilla, but I get an error during startup. LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libflashplayer.so [libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory] I've got the libc6 and libstdc++5 packages installed. I only do not see libc6.2-2.so.3 anywhere on my system. So what should I do to get it working? Thanks Jaap -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to get Anti aliasing fonts in Gnome?
s. keeling wrote: Incoming from Jaap Haitsma: Jaap Haitsma wrote: I have the problem that anti aliasing does not seem to work. See for example the font in the attachment. I already browsed quite a bit on the web but didn't find the solution. BTW My system is a fresh install of Debian unstable using the Debian installer and then selecting Desktop for my installation. Forgot the attachment Looks fine to me, but I'm using fluxbox. http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html ?? Is there something wrong with my question. The attachment is a screenshot of a web page, and in my opinion it looks very bad. If I visit the same web page on my fedora box the text looks a lot nicer, because of the anti aliasing fonts it uses. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to get multimedia keys (volume up /down) working
You're right. Any key combo involving Fn isn't going to get picked up by software I'm 100% sure it's a setting. It works fine in Gnoppix, which is based on Knoppix/Debian If I run showkey -s on a console in Gnoppix I see the keycodes of the Fn combos involving the Fn key. And also acme works overthere. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to get multimedia keys (volume up /down) working
I made mine (Logitech itouch-like) work using the hotkeys package. Thanks but my laptop isn't listed overthere. :(. I've had it working in Gnoppix (Knoppix for Gnome), so I guess I need to change my keyboard configuration, but I don't know how to do that :( Jaap -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How to get multimedia keys (volume up /down) working
Hi, I'd like to to use the volume up and volume down keys of my dell laptop in Gnome. However if I go to Desktop Preferences / Multimedia Keys I cannot attach Fn-VolumeUp(PageUp) or Fn-VolumeDown(PageDown) to the appropriate events. It simply doesn't notice that I pushed those keys. With other normal keys it just works fine. It also doesn't recognize the other multimedia keys. Like changing the contrast. These keys do their job (i.e. change the contrast or what ever they should do), but it seems that they are directly tied to the hardware. GNOME never sees those keys. Does somebody know how to get the volume up and down keys working? Thanks Jaap -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to get Anti aliasing fonts in Gnome?
Forgot the attachment Jaap Haitsma wrote: Hi, I have the problem that anti aliasing does not seem to work. See for example the font in the attachment. I already browsed quite a bit on the web but didn't find the solution. Jaap BTW My system is a fresh install of Debian unstable using the Debian installer and then selecting Desktop for my installation. <>
How to get Anti aliasing fonts in Gnome?
Hi, I have the problem that anti aliasing does not seem to work. See for example the font in the attachment. I already browsed quite a bit on the web but didn't find the solution. Jaap BTW My system is a fresh install of Debian unstable using the Debian installer and then selecting Desktop for my installation. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Which files contain monospace and sans font?
Hamilton Coutinho wrote: On 03/26/2004 01:59 PM, Jaap A. Haitsma wrote: I'm trying to find out which files contain the monospace and sans font. If in nautilus I show all the fonts by going to fonts:/// these two fonts are not listed, but if I go and select for example fonts in the desktop preferences they are there. The reason I'm asking is that I like the monospace and sans font that are being used in fedora more then the standard ones. So I want to copy them from fedora to Debian These are aliases to bitstream vera fonts in my system (package ttf-bitstream-vera). Thanks, Fedora uses the luxi fonts for sans and monospace after copying these on my Debian system (They are not available as a package due to the fact they do not meet the Debian free software licenses) in /usr/share/fonts/ changing /etc/fonts/fonts.conf such that luxi is my preferred font for sans and and monospace and finally running fc-cache -v changes the fonts to the fonts I prefer. I still have one problem though, fonts still do not look great because anti aliasing doesn't work. :( The freetype and type1 modules do get loaded in X86Config-4 Anybody knows how to fix this? Thanks, Jaap BTW I'm running Debian unstable which is completely up to date -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Getting flash to work in firefox
Hi, I installed the flash plugin from macromedia for firefox/mozilla, but I get an error during startup. LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libflashplayer.so [libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory] I've got the libc6 and libstdc++5 packages installed. I only do not see libc6.2-2.so.3 anywhere on my system. So what should I do to get it working? Thanks Jaap -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sound not working
Chris Metzler wrote: On Sun, 21 Mar 2004 18:53:23 +0100 Jaap Haitsma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Remaining problem that I have is that if I enable the Gnome Sound Server to get sound working under gnome that Rhythmbox is refusing to play because /dev/dsp is busy. If I disable the Gnome Sound server, Rhythmbox plays fine. However if I start up xmms and also play a file there it doesn't work.(I also see this in Fedora) It seems that I can only play sound from one source. In windooz the card plays fine with multiple sources. Take a look at the command arguments for esd. It's possible to tell esd to not hang onto /dev/dsp when it doesn't need it. My /etc/esound/esd.conf says: [esd] auto_spawn=1 spawn_options=-terminate -nobeeps -as 2 spawn_wait_ms=100 and with that, esd-aware and esd-unaware applications are able to coexist just fine. (if you go this route, esd will of course need to be restarted) -c Thanks for the pointer Problem is that I have gnome sounds enabled. They do not recommend setting auto_spawn to 1 in that case. Because esd then will be fired up every time you hit a button or so. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sound not working
Remaining problem that I have is that if I enable the Gnome Sound Server to get sound working under gnome that Rhythmbox is refusing to play because /dev/dsp is busy. If I disable the Gnome Sound server, Rhythmbox plays fine. However if I start up xmms and also play a file there it doesn't work.(I also see this in Fedora) It seems that I can only play sound from one source. In windooz the card plays fine with multiple sources. Your applications need to be esd-aware. I don't know anything about Rhythmbox, but xmms either is or can be made esd-aware; Right-click within xmms, choose Options, then Preferences, then Output plugin. Thanks for your help it pointed me in the right direction :) Rhythmbox uses the gstreamer framework which can use all the popular sound servers. Out of the box (or apt-get) it gets configured to use oss and that conflicts with esd. I now set it to use esd by specifying it in gconf ( system/gstreamer/default ). gst-player the official gstreamer player now works correctly. Rhythmbox comes up with an error message that it currently cannot use esd when sound events in gnome are enabled. (So I guess I have to wait for that) Jaap -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sound not working
> Nope; not what you want to do. Instead, add your user to the audio > group, like so: >adduser jaap audio >> >> What I first tried is adding the audio group to my group but that >> didn't work. > > After adding your user to the audio group, you'll need to logout and > back in. Thanks, forgot that :-(. It more or less works now (See below) > Still doesn't work? > 1) Your sound chip is not properly supported by whatever kernel you're > using, > or I now listed my soundcard driver (maestro3) in /etc/modules Strange thing is that previously I'm pretty sure that it got loaded automatically by the Debian boot process. Does debian have something like redhat's kudzu that recognizes hardware changes or do I always need to list the drivers in /etc/modules? > 2) You don't have the correct modules installed > or maestro3 is now installed and also ac97_codec and soundcore. This seems OK, because these modules also get loaded in Fedora ( I decided to drop Fedora and now go for Debian) > 3) You're running a desktop environment like KDE or Gnome which expects > a sound daemon like artsd or esd, and that daemon is not running. > or esd now is running. Out of curiosity what fires up esd? (I already did some greps in /etc but can't find it) > 4) Profit? (that's a "insiders" joke, if you don't get it) Don't get it :(. (Until yesterday I was using Fedora) Remaining problem that I have is that if I enable the Gnome Sound Server to get sound working under gnome that Rhythmbox is refusing to play because /dev/dsp is busy. If I disable the Gnome Sound server, Rhythmbox plays fine. However if I start up xmms and also play a file there it doesn't work.(I also see this in Fedora) It seems that I can only play sound from one source. In windooz the card plays fine with multiple sources. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sound not working
Jaap Haitsma wrote: Hi, Yesterday I installed Debian Unstable (hoping to become a very happy Debian user) by running the netinstaller and then selecting "desktop" in tasksel. I had the problem that sound and volume control weren't working. When I wanted to play an audio file it was complaining taht it cannot open /dev/dsp and the volume control applet complained that /dev/sound/mixer does not exist. (/dev/mixer exists) I now got everything working by changing the file permission of /dev/dsp and /dev/mixer from crw-rw to crw-rw-rw- (both are owned by root:audio) and make a symbolic link from /dev/sound/mixer to /dev/mixer What I first tried is adding the audio group to my group but that didn't work. I have the feeling that what I did is not the official way to set things up. For example in Fedora both /dev/dsp and /dev/mixer have as permission crw--- and are owned by root:root Does anybody know how what's the official way to set it up? OK my way is definetly not the right way. If I enable the gnome sound server I get sounds when I open a window or such but then players like rhytmbox complain that /dev/dsp is temporarily unavailable :( -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sound not working
Hi, Yesterday I installed Debian Unstable (hoping to become a very happy Debian user) by running the netinstaller and then selecting "desktop" in tasksel. I had the problem that sound and volume control weren't working. When I wanted to play an audio file it was complaining taht it cannot open /dev/dsp and the volume control applet complained that /dev/sound/mixer does not exist. (/dev/mixer exists) I now got everything working by changing the file permission of /dev/dsp and /dev/mixer from crw-rw to crw-rw-rw- (both are owned by root:audio) and make a symbolic link from /dev/sound/mixer to /dev/mixer What I first tried is adding the audio group to my group but that didn't work. I have the feeling that what I did is not the official way to set things up. For example in Fedora both /dev/dsp and /dev/mixer have as permission crw--- and are owned by root:root Does anybody know how what's the official way to set it up? Thanks Jaap -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
