Re: Re: convert multiple jpegs to one pdf file
On 12/23/-28158 12:59 PM, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Sun,05.Jul.09, 01:29:26, ronggui wong wrote: Hi all, Can you recommend a software to convert multiple jpeg files to one pdf file? I found a which works under windows only, or can only convert one jpeg to one pdf file. But there are other utilities to merge single pdfs into one. I *think* it was pdftk, but a simple google will surely find it for you. Regards, Andrei You might also use Google Docs or Open Office to create a document, then export it as PDF -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Need help with Mail::Sender
I don't see glaringly wrong with it off the top of my head.
You might try some things:
* Split the 'content_id' value into its own parameter
* Let Mail::Sender supply the boundary parameter
* Employ the 'debug' parameter in the object create call write a log
I've been using Mail::Sender for 7 yrs found it quite bullet-proof.
I do recall that it was a bitch to get everything working. I use it to
send attachments as well as inline images
ref $sender-Attach({description = $description
,
ctype = 'image/jpeg'
,
encoding = 'base64'
,
disposition = sprintf('inline;filename=%s/%s;', $path[$#path - 1],
$path[$#path])
,
file = $imagepath.$path[$#path]
,
content_id = $k}) or die Cannot send file as a separate part of mail
message: $Mail::Sender::Error;
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Re: Re: kde4: restore deleted desktop containment
On 12/23/-28158 12:59 PM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: Inloom.20090612t045157-...@post.gmane.org, DZ wrote: Jeff Chimenejchimeneat gmail.com writes: Andrei Popescu wrote: Jeff Chimene wrote: While futzing w/ KDE 4, I deleted the desktop containment. How do I restore the desktop containment? Google is not very revealing on this topic. What's do you mean by 'containment'? One would have to ask the KDE wizards. That's what it's called. Right-click in desktop area; choose Appearance Settings. Then, under Desktop Activity - Type - Desktop. Next, right-click on desktop area again; choose Add Widgets. Add Folder View. In the newly appeared Folder Area, right-click Under Folder View Settings, choose Show the Desktop folder If these steps work for you, then you aren't talking about a containment. You are talking about a widget or a plasmoid. Boyd, Do you run KDE 4? If you do, then please follow these oh-so-easy steps: 1. Right mouseclick on the desktop 2. Select Appearance Settings 3. Select the Type drop-down menu in the Desktop Activity group 4. Note the captions for each of the two selections 5. Post the caption for Desktop Better yet, grab a screenshot at step 4 and post it to the list Did you answer the original question when I posted it a few weeks ago? Sure you did! I knew you could! Thanks again to the kind person who finally answered the question. To you, Boyd, thanks for being the typical Debianite -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Re: Google Chrome
On 12/23/-28158 12:59 PM, ghe wrote: div class=moz-text-flowed style=font-family: -moz-fixedOn 6/11/09 1:45 PM, David Baron wrote: The Google Chromium Browser is working on my Debian box. Very quick, works certainly better the kde4 konqueror. Flash not yet implemented. That's OK. It won't run Flashblock anyway :-) There is a .deb package. Linkie?? I tried to get it, and the Linux package I found certainly wasn't a .deb. I couldn't figure it out... http://build.chromium.org/buildbot/snapshots/chromium-rel-linux/17302/chrome-linux.zip http://build.chromium.org/buildbot/snapshots/chromium-rel-linux/ Unzip to your favorite directory. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Re: kde4: restore deleted desktop containment
On 12/23/-28158 12:59 PM, Paul Scott wrote: div class=moz-text-flowed style=font-family: -moz-fixedJeff Chimene wrote: On 12/23/-28158 12:59 PM, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Wed,20.May.09, 12:34:01, Jeff Chimene wrote: Hi, While futzing w/ KDE 4, I deleted the desktop containment. How do I restore the desktop containment? Google is not very revealing on this topic. What's do you mean by 'containment'? One would have to ask the KDE wizards. That's what it's called. Assuming that one starts at the standard kde4 desktop: o Right-click on the desktop o Select appearance settings o Select desktop in desktop activity; the description for which is default desktop containment. Hi Jeff, I get this far and don't see any pop out menu. Sorry, I omitted the last step: mouseover the (now visible) desktop window; which event should cause the pop-out action. I may be wrong in the actions required to raise the pop-out window: the window isn't visible, natch. After clicking X on the containment's pop-out menu, the containment disappears. I was able to restore the default desktop environment by renaming .kde to .kde-save. That sounds similar to what I had to do when I did the update to KDE 4.2 at the same time as the upgrade to X 7.4 and all kinds of things broke. To be fair: the Debianization of KDE4.4 seems well-thought-out, But for certain settings that don't have an analog in KDE4 (textured wallpaper?), the migration to KDE4 from KDE3 was smooth. I didn't realize the depth of the migration until after renaming the .kde directory, some migrated properties I took for granted were (obviously) lost. Paul Scott Needless to say, this is a bit like reinstall windows to remove all virii /div -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
kde4: restore deleted desktop containment
Hi, While futzing w/ KDE 4, I deleted the desktop containment. How do I restore the desktop containment? Google is not very revealing on this topic. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: kde4: restore deleted desktop containment
On 12/23/-28158 12:59 PM, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Wed,20.May.09, 12:34:01, Jeff Chimene wrote: Hi, While futzing w/ KDE 4, I deleted the desktop containment. How do I restore the desktop containment? Google is not very revealing on this topic. What's do you mean by 'containment'? One would have to ask the KDE wizards. That's what it's called. Assuming that one starts at the standard kde4 desktop: o Right-click on the desktop o Select appearance settings o Select desktop in desktop activity; the description for which is default desktop containment. After clicking X on the containment's pop-out menu, the containment disappears. I was able to restore the default desktop environment by renaming .kde to .kde-save. Needless to say, this is a bit like reinstall windows to remove all virii -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Re: mysterious pdf file won't be printed, all others will!
In my sister's home directory there is a pdf file that won't respond to the `lp' command. All others pdf files in the same directory behave all right, and the permissions are the same. The only difference is the creation date, which is today wheras the other files are older. The thing looks mysterious to me. Can anybody suggest any explanation/remedy? ISTR that PDF files can be locked against printing. Perhaps that's the case? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
HOWTO Make XEmacs switch to buffer
Hi, This used to be not a problem. Since some upgrade, XEmacs (testing) no longer switches to the first non-scratch buffer. Would someone please provide the incantation that I can add to my init file that switches to the first non-scratch buffer? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Suggestions for multilevel backup of single machine?
On 12/23/-28158 12:59 PM, James Youngman wrote: Here's my current backup arrangement: Data is stored in filesystems on LVM volumes over RAID1. While RAID1 presents some protection from disk failure, it gives no protection against data corruption due to flaky hardware or data loss caused by fire or theft. Therefore I have an offsite backup arrangement. This consists of two rsync backups. One backup goes to a local disk (different disk manufacturer, different disk controller) and the other rsync backup is to a disk at work. This works a bit but the outgoing bandwidth on my cable connection is low (about 0.3 Mbps). If I make a large change to the machine (e.g. dist-upgrade) I physically swap the home and work backup disks (this is the main reason for keeping the local backup too). This at least allows me to place an upper limit on the amount of data I would lose in the case of (e.g.) a fire. However, there are two respects in which I think some improvement would be useful: (1) Quite a lot of the files on my system are files I never expect to change again. I plan to write a few scripts which will tell me if a file that hadn't been modified in, say, two years was in fact recently modified. This could give me early warning that the disk controller has gone berserk (again). Isn't this what the file alteration monitor is for? (2) It would be useful to have a historic backup capability too (e.g. the way the filesystem looked yesterday, last week, last month and a year ago), at least for filesystems like /home. I think it's extreme going back farther than a month. A grandfather/father/son scheme tailored to your requirements should be more than sufficient. But, it's your system... What are good solutions for doing (2)? (Please only recommend software you're using yourself :) I like backup-manager for SOHO backups. I've been through duplicity, backup-ninja and possibly others. Once I resolved A REALLY ANNOYING BUG, it works very well. I, too, do offsite backups (via scp). backup-manager fails gracefully (I changed the sshd port thus defeating backup-manager's ability to successfully connect via scp. This only left the backup on the local machine waiting to be copied to the remote machine once I updated the configuration). I also like that the email logs contain enough, but not too much info. On the downside, I don't think backup-manager has a calendar of sufficient duration to handle your last month, year ago requirement. You may have to solve that via cron. You should be prepared to try several of the available backup packages and decide for yourself. You're obviously the type who likes to be fer-sure, fer-sure. Cheers, -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Debian's glacial movement--a rant
On 12/23/-28158 12:59 PM, Freddy Freeloader wrote: I've never been pissed off at Debian before but I guess there is always a first. I'm experiencing a bug in Gnucash that appeared a couple of days ago on my system that makes Gnucash completely unusable for me. I turned in a bug report on Friday, checked on it yesterday, and by today the bug had been blocked from being displayed. It could be found by searching Debian's bug tracker, but only if you know the bug id number. If you just search for bugs in Gnucash the bug does not appear to exist. The bug was closed, and blocked, because it's been fixed upstream in version 2.2.9 which was released by Gnucash in February of this year. Great. The bug has been fixed. Why it needed to be hidden from being displayed is puzzler for me, but that's the way it is. Now the bad news. Since Gnucash in both Sid and Sqeeze is now at version 2.2.6 I only have to wait until Debian works through versions 2.2.7 and 2.2.8 before Gnucash in Debian finally becomes usable for me again in version 2.2.9. As Sid is only 9 months behind Gnucash's release schedule at this point I guess the fact that all my business records for the last couple of years are in Gnucash means I'll be able to start doing my business accounting again sometime after the first of next year, at a minimum, if I wait for Debian I have no idea about the requirements for GC, but that doesn't prevent me from expressing an opinion! For this reason, I rarely rely on Debianized versions of packages important to my personal productivity. For example, Firefox, Java, OpenOffice, Eclipse, Google Web Toolkit, Thunderbird are all installed from their respective sites. I consider it an important aspect of Debian that I can install into /usr/local and not trash the distro. That doesn't always work (certain Perl modules come to mind). How about installing it independently of Debian? However, from a quick scan of the site (gnucash.org), it looks like there's only a Windows binary. Is compiling from source a no-go? In certain cases, I've had to wait for a Debianized version. e.g. Task Juggler went to the lastest gcc before Debian. If GC is using a gcc version that's not in your current Debian sources list, there may be an issue. Oh - and flames from Debian fanbois? dev/null -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Please brainstorm: Word-processor compatible with version control
Flashbake: Free version-control for writers using git Posted by Cory Doctorow, February 13, 2009 6:39 AM | permalink For the past couple weeks, I've been working with Thomas cmdln Gideon (host of the fabulously nerdy Command Line podcast) on a free software project for writers called Flashbake (which is to say, I described what I wanted and Thomas wrote the code). This is a set of Python scripts that check your hot files for changes every 15 minutes, and checks in any changed files to a local git repository. Git is a free source control program used by programmers to track changes to source-code, but it works equally well on any text file. If you write in a text-editor like I do, then Flashbake can keep track of your changes for you as you go. http://www.boingboing.net/2009/02/13/flashbake-free-versi.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
XDebug on debian
Hi, Has anyone managed to get XDebug working on Debian w/ Apache? I'm looking for some assistance in getting this to work w/ Eclipse and an external browser. tia, jec -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Re: What does support mean? (Re: Exim4 with a Goddady account)
On 12/23/42 12:59, Nate Bargmann wrote: * Jerry Stucklejstuc...@attglobal.net [2009 Jan 31 07:34 -0600]: A bit late, but I've been unavailable. When I need help configuring Exim, I look at the Exim mailing lists - just like I do any product. In the README.Debian file it quite explicitly discusses that support should be sought on the Debian list first and only afterward should the upstream Exim list be consulted. This is likely due to the Debian configuration changes that have been made to the package. Since I wound up solving my configuration entirely within the framework of the Debian configuration, asking on a Debian list was the proper avenue to take, IMO. For the record, I checked the Debian Exim4 mailing list and it appeared to have very low traffic and since I am already subscribed here, I asked here. I don't expect this to be a product support list. There seems to be a lot of product support that takes place on this list without issue. Why some got upset about this thread is puzzling to me. - Nate Hi, What was the solution? I'm interested in getting Exim4 to talk to a smarthost provider. TBird seems to have no problem, but Exim4 provokes an unexpected error.
exim4 as a client of a smarthost w/o TLS
Hi, I've been trying to get exim to send mail via a smarthost that doesn't use TLS. I've set the AUTH_CLIENT_ALLOW_NOTLS_PASSWORDS = 1 to no avail: exim4 does not fall back to AUTH LOGIN or AUTH PLAIN. I can get exim4 to send mail via mail.gmail.com Any help would be appreciated. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: s2disk weird error
In case anybody's interested: http://lkml.org/lkml/2008/1/30/573 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
backup-manager fails to SCP
Hi, Is there a bash or ssh configuration that inhibits ssh sessions from bash scripts? I'm trying to debug a problem with backup-manager-upload (0.7.7-debian1) using the scp mode. When I run the program interactively, it works. When run as part of backup-manager, it fails. Looking at the logs on the remote side, I never see a connection attempt during a failure. There are several connection attempts when run interactively. The command line is as follows (captured via set -x): /usr/bin/backup-manager-upload \ -k=/backup/.ssh/id_rsa \ --ssh-purge \ -m=scp \ -h=example.com \ -u=root \ -d=backups \ -r=/backup/backups \ today
s2disk weird error
Hi,
I'm tracking Lenny on 2.6.26-1-amd64.
The command powersave -U is now failing, and the following error is in
/var/log/messages:
ioctl32(s2disk:4094): Unknown cmd fd(4) cmd(4004330a){t:'3';sz:4}
arg(1605) on /dev/snapshot
Should I file a bug or is this a known issue?
tia,
jec
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perl cpan cc: command not found
Hi, While running cpan certain modules don't get built. sh: cc: command not found I know this isn't true: ls /usr/bin/gcc -lat lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 21 May 22 2006 /usr/bin/gcc - /etc/alternatives/gcc I'm wondering if the debian-alternatives system is interfering here? I've tried alias cc=gcc in /root/.bashrc but no joy CPAN seems my only alternative to keeping up w/ Catalyst developments. Updates aren't moving to Debian, and I had /significant/ problems installing Catalyst from the Debian version. How do others manage Debian vs. CPAN? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: perl cpan cc: command not found
Jeff Chimene wrote: Hi, While running cpan certain modules don't get built. sh: cc: command not found I know this isn't true: ls /usr/bin/gcc -lat lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 21 May 22 2006 /usr/bin/gcc - /etc/alternatives/gcc I'm wondering if the debian-alternatives system is interfering here? I've tried alias cc=gcc I figured it out. update /etc/perl/CPAN/Config.pm 'make_arg' = q[CC=/usr/bin/gcc LD=/usr/bin/gcc] This works w/ debian-alternatives. I think it's also possible to add the cc command using debian-alternatives. in /root/.bashrc but no joy CPAN seems my only alternative to keeping up w/ Catalyst developments. Updates aren't moving to Debian, and I had /significant/ problems installing Catalyst from the Debian version. How do others manage Debian vs. CPAN? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How to restore files without deleting existing
Hi, I'm trying to resolve a tar restore issue. Using the newest gnu tar. While using tar to deploy software, today I wiped clean my destination directory. This was somewhat of a surprise. The only files left in the destination were those present in the source archive. The destination directory is a symlink - could this cause the existing files to be silently erased? I hadn't seen this behavior under the orginal Solaris host system. At that time, I went from Debian Linux to Solaris (unknown vintage). The new sequence is Debian Linux to Red Hat Linux. In both environments, I create the archive as tar -czf archive.tar.gz source/ Under Solaris I restored using a command like gzip archive.tar.gz | tar df - In the new environment I thought I could just tar -xzf archive.tar.gz Apparently, this isn't the case... Thanks for your help, Jeff Chimene ___ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to restore files without deleting existing
--- Rajesh Menon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as I know, if you operate on the symlink, you are operating on the files/dir that it points to. Unlike hard links, which are actual copies of the link pointed to. And if I recall right, tar's behaviour, by default, is to over-write the destination. tar -xzf archive.tar.gz = it's going to create (overwrite) a folder 'source' and dump the output in there. Thank you for the reply! I think that I clobbered the symlink - i.e. the original files are in the original directory. The symlink got replaced by the actual directory. Is there a way for tar to follow the symlink, or am I supposed to be writing into the linked directory? Cheers, Jeff Chimene Jeff Chimene wrote: Hi, I'm trying to resolve a tar restore issue. Using the newest gnu tar. While using tar to deploy software, today I wiped clean my destination directory. This was somewhat of a surprise. The only files left in the destination were those present in the source archive. The destination directory is a symlink - could this cause the existing files to be silently erased? I hadn't seen this behavior under the orginal Solaris host system. At that time, I went from Debian Linux to Solaris (unknown vintage). The new sequence is Debian Linux to Red Hat Linux. In both environments, I create the archive as tar -czf archive.tar.gz source/ Under Solaris I restored using a command like gzip archive.tar.gz | tar df - In the new environment I thought I could just tar -xzf archive.tar.gz Apparently, this isn't the case... Thanks for your help, Jeff Chimene ___ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com ___ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to restore files without deleting existing
--- Paul E Condon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Oct 03, 2004 at 07:33:04PM -0700, Jeff Chimene wrote: --- Rajesh Menon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as I know, if you operate on the symlink, you are operating on the files/dir that it points to. Unlike hard links, which are actual copies of the link pointed to. And if I recall right, tar's behaviour, by default, is to over-write the destination. tar -xzf archive.tar.gz = it's going to create (overwrite) a folder 'source' and dump the output in there. Thank you for the reply! I think that I clobbered the symlink - i.e. the original files are in the original directory. The symlink got replaced by the actual directory. Is there a way for tar to follow the symlink, or am I supposed to be writing into the linked directory? Cheers, Jeff Chimene In my test, I used -h option only for creating .tgz file My untar did -not- have -h option and yet the files that were in the .tgz file were placed by following the symlink. I appears that you only need -h when you are creating. So, this is not likely explanation of what happened to you. But, again, maybe Red Hat tar behaves differently. Hi, bash-2.05b$ tar --version tar (GNU tar) 1.13.25 Copyright (C) 2001 Free Software Foundation, Inc. It's got something to do with following symlinks in a secure way. I found a thread that seemed to indicate that this behavior is more secure than previous symlink handling. I didn't follow the thread closely, but I think that's the gist of this class of behavior. Fortunately, I have the original files :) So, I will modify my restore process to write to the actual directory, rather than the symlink. That should yield the desired behavior. Peace, jec -- Paul E Condon [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Netscape 4.7 failing dns lookup
Hi: Cross-posted on debian-alpha, debian-user On Debian 2, Netscape 4.7, Netscape is failing to locate any non-local url. NS freezes when it goes to retrieve the site, be it email, newsgroups or http. I notice that I'm getting two dns-helper processes. Other than that, I have no clues. ppp is normal, and lynx is working. Last upgrades were from all from Stable: gforth java-common. Several days ago I upgraded ppp, but I've used NS since then. Any clues appreciated. jec -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Thoughts on RTFM
Some of you obviously "get it." My hats off to you!Others, sadly, do not: -Original Message-From: Dimitri Maziuk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 17:53To: debian-user@lists.debian.orgSubject: Re: Thoughts on RTFMGood. I sincerely hope it'll stay there -- the last thing I want in my mailbox is mail from lusers who need a dancing paper clip to tell them how to insert a CD in the drive. The last thing I do is let people like you define people like me. Definitely. If you found DeadRat too hard, Debian is not for you. Maybe Linux is not for you. You know, there's Mac Oh-SeX, several *BSDs, a bunch of similar-but-not-entirely-unlike flavours of Winders out there, and more. Why did you want to run Linux anyway? To be a k3w1 1337 h4X0r d00d? My reasons for installing this distro are none of your business. If you can't help, stay out of the street. Johnny Ernst Nielsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Um, I see that particular question on and off on different lists. So you better think again sir. I stated that type of question rarely ever gets a polite reply. Thank-you for making my point. So, sir, you are simply not right. Think so? The following was posted on debian-alpha. So far, no answers. I don't think it has anything to do with the question specifics. It seems to have everything to do with whether or not the question is sufficiently "interesting." Hi: On an AS/200, at the MILO prompt, I should be following these instructions, from the "Installing Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 for Alpha": To bootstrap the installation system, enter the following command at the MILO prompt: MILO boot fd0:linux.gz root=/dev/fd0 load_ramdisk=1 If you are booting from something other than a floppy, substitute fd0 in the above example with the appropriate device name in Linux notation. The help command would give you a brief MILO command reference. Where is "linux.gz?" when I use the path "sr0:boot/linux.", MILO complains that this is not a gzipped file. I would prefer not to install from floppies. Presumably I have a "bootable" CD-ROM image, although LSL disclaims any responsibility for the contents of the CD-ROM. It looks like even though I boot MILO, and can access a CD-ROM drive, I still have to rawrite then boot from floppies to continue the installation? Perhaps linux.gz is the machine-specific image created by the install process? I note that the section "Obtaining and Installing Linux" at www.linuxdoc.org doesn't actually mention this file. Viktor Rosenfeld [EMAIL PROTECTED] (who does get it) wrote: In fact, I think it's a very poorly worded question, because it simply does not narrow down the problem space enough. Of course it's a poorly worded question: that's my point. There are so many failure modes that it's not possible to elucidate them all. Boasting about the quality of the documentation proves nothing to the rank beginner. Eg, one could include an error message that mount gives, debugging information from the kernel, or if your newbie enough, not to know that such information exists, you could describe that eg, the busy light of the CD-ROM keeps flashing eratically, or that the drive makes funny noises, and the like. If there's no such behavior, you should write that too, so some options can be dismissed as possible sources for problems. I added another CD-ROM at SCSI ID #4, leaving the failing drive at ID #5. From MILO, the command "ls -t iso9660 sr0:boot" succeeded, and the command "ls -t iso9660 sr1:boot" failed; error messages indicate that sr1: is unable to sense the presence of the disk.
Re: Thoughts on RTFM
I really don't want to single out Viktor Rosenfeld [EMAIL PROTECTED], but his opinion is the pearl seed for a particular observation. Simultaneously, it represents the rational voice of most people who try to carry the stone, and is astonishingly wide of the mark. So: [1] I don't really have anything against step-by-step instructions, I've read a lot in my learning process and I've written a couple of myself to help out others. I just think that step-by-step instructions should serve as a base to familirize (sp?) yourself with the problem. Once you get it going, you should follow up some of the information. This is the sort of Pollyanna Principle thinking that will keep Linux on the sidelines. For example, I just purchased the Debian distro from LSL. Guess what? They probably pressed it using multi-session CD format; which format my 5 yr. old SCSI CD-ROM drive won't read. RTFM is clearly not an answer: how will that answer solve a problem created by such an arbitrary decision by a vendor? No amount of RTFM is going to help here. No-one, on any list, is going to attempt to answer a question like: I just bought a CD and my computer won't read it. What's wrong? And no, I haven't asked LSL in which format they burned the CD; such a question is likely to be met w/ shrugs, stares, and a lip curl that could lift 10 stone. Tell me, [list], how would you phrase such a question so that it could be solved with step-by-step instructions that don't elicit the answer under discussion? RTFM is *not* an option. It's a rude, elitist opinion that has no shortage of clueless technocrats willing to fill the airwaves with that meaningless answer. There are so *many* things that can go wrong trying to install any Linux distro that the simplistic RTFM - now go away is nothing short of technical infanticide. It sounds funny to the dittoheads who parrot the Hacker's Dictionary, but will never help carry the stone. The sui generis proposition: Once you get it going is an unsustainable directive to all but the earnest propeller-head. It's not even *remotely* possible to familirize (sp?) yourself with a problem like incompatible CD formats. I gave up on Red Hat, because of their bogus RPM, and utter lack of competent technical support. Throwing myself into the Debian mosh pit is beginning to look like an even worse mistake. FWIW, the CD format clue was suggested by a co-worker; it sounds just plausible enough to be true.
