Re: Mozilla JAVA
Hello All, Something seems fishy here. Reading this made me wonder if I was disillusioned as to weather my java was reallly working in mozilla or not. So I tested it out by searching similar to the gentleman below for 'online java games Arkanoid' at google. With a couple that I tried all I got was a grey box that seemed to indicate the game did not seem to finish loading. One place, I think I was trying 'Arknoid2', caused Mozilla to disappear. Then I finally tried out this place... http://www.3dupdates.com/javagames/arkanoid/ and the game worked beautifully, sound and all. But I have no symlink(nor did I make one) in /usr/lib/mozzila for /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 - libXt.so Is something rotten in denmark? Or is it just me? Bewildered, Jimmy Richards The surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that it has never tried to contact us. --Bill Watterson On Sat, Sep 01, 2001 at 12:03:54PM +0200, Georges Goncalves wrote: Le -08.31.2001 22:18:13-, ? Kent West ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ? a ?crit quelques phrases c?l?bres sur ? Re: Mozilla JAVA ? KW Arrhhh I think I tested all the KW possibilities and I still don't know what I'm doing wrong :(( KW KW I've about decided there's a glitch in Mozilla or the deb packaging of KW it or something. Anyway, here's what typically works for me. KW KW After installing the plugins and making the symlink, make one more KW symlink in /usr/lib/mozilla/ (not the plugins directory): KW KW ln -s /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 libXt.so KW KW If that doesn't solve it, I'm outta ideas. You're the one ! It work at last !! Perfect... Seems to work pretty well... I feared a problem because my first attempt (http://www.javasoft.com) made Mozilla window disappear suddenly ! (I and tried it twice)... Finally, I searched on Google for online Java games (a good test) and I was able to play Arkanoid and PacMan successfully !! Thanks to EVERYONE who have replied and tried to help me! Thanks people! Greetings, -- _ / \___ (OXOXOXOXOXOX) )_/ Melkor \_/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian: When code matters more than commercials... (SID) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: promise ultra ata100 controller card and linux support
Hi,
It is in the latest kernel, 2.4.9. Or you can get patches at
http://www.linux-ide.org/ You should be able to find it in 2.4.9 under
ATA/IDE/MFM/RLL support ---
IDE, ATA and ATAPI Block devices ---
[*] PROMISE PDC202{46|62|65|67|68} support
HTH,
Jimmy Richards
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On Sat, Sep 01, 2001 at 07:34:23PM +, Rajesh Fowkar wrote:
Hi,
I went through the kernel options but could not find support for promise
ultra ata100 controller. (Promise Technologies).
Is the above card supported under Linux ?
Thanks in advance.
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Re: promise ultra ata100 controller card and linux support
Hi Again, I just wanted to say that after I sent off my reply on where to find it I saw that it looks like you're running the same kernel as me from reading your sig, kernel-2.4.9 w/ext3. You should be able to find it in there. Jim
Re: Mozilla JAVA
Hi, It's been a little while since I fixed mine, so I don't remember for certain if this is the only thing you need, but if it alone doesn't fix it then post again and I'll look around to see what else it was that I did. Go into /etc/alternatives and make the following symlink... ln -sv javaplugin_oji-mozilla-0.9.3.so /usr/lib/j2re1.3/plugin/i386/mozilla/javaplugin_oji.so Hope that's all you need, Jimmy Richards On Thu, Aug 30, 2001 at 07:47:11PM +0200, Georges Goncalves wrote: Hi, I really wonder if the SID version of Mozilla is compiled with Java Support enabled... Why do I ask? Because I can't get it to work. I've tryed both a full manual Java JRE install and an automatic install (http://www.javasoft.com and let Mozilla be your guide :) Everything is installed but no way... about:plugins URL keeps on NOT showing the plugin... I do have the JRE installed and I do have the symlink in moz plugins dir. I really don't undertand... Any idea ? Greetings, -- _ / \___ (OXOXOXOXOXOX) )_/ Melkor \_/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian: When code matters more than commercials... (SID) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mozilla JAVA
Hey, I had the names in my symlink command backwards, it should be ln -sv /usr/lib/j2re1.3/plugin/i386/mozilla/javaplugin_oji.so javaplugin_oji-mozilla-0.9.3.so whilst in the /etc/alternatives. If you tried it already I'm sure that was pretty obvious. Anyway, hope it all worked out ok. Jimmy Richards
Re: problem in upgrade to testing
Hi, Just do this. It should work. It's worked for a number of people that I have helped with the same problem on IRC at irc.openprojects.net in #debian. If you visit there, come and say hi to me :-). My nick is longshot. cd /var/cahce/apt/archives dpkg -i libb2* libdb3* HTH and Good Luck, Jimmy Richards UNIX is basically a simple operating system, but you have to be a genius to understand the simplicity. --Dennis Ritchie
Re: partitioning revisited
Hi Keith, I will try and help as best I can with some of these questions, and more! First, I would like to recommend that you read the partitioning how-to at http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/mini/Partition/partition-4.html On Thu, Aug 09, 2001 at 09:00:03AM +0100, Keith O'Connell wrote: Hi, I have just build a machine, and am ready to start putting the stable on it. This is the first time I have built one from scratch, and it has made me think in detail about what I am doing as I put it all together. Now as I am newish to Linux I thought you might indulge me her. On two other boxes I have here I have potato running fine, but as I think about it there may be a better set-up. To help me get to the enlightened approach could I pick the panel brains on the following? 1: I recently read that logical partitions were better than primary because of the size limits on the directories. I didn't quit understand this. On this laptop I have 4 primary partitions, with the 4th holding 4 logical. Is this unwise? Should I just have one big logical partition? I, like Sebastiaan, am not sure about the limit of directory sizes for primary paritions as opposed to logical's contained withing an extended partition. As for the layout of your partitions you should split them up corresponding to the filesystems that they will contain. When everything is put on one big partition data can start to get a little spread out and disorganized. And lets say something strange happens and your system is logging it. The logs could exhaust the available space, likely hanging your system if the root filesystem is lumped together with all filesystems. And if you have filesystem corruption, one directory hierarchy can affect others. Splitting up partitions helps limit systematic problems if corruption occurs on a directory. Also, security can be a concern with one big parition. It's best not not to put the root filesystem on the same filesystem as user filesystems, as this may allow 'set user id'(SUID) programs to have more of a potential to gain access to restricted areas. You should consider mounting filesystems with the 'nosuid' option(specified in /etc/fstab) anywhere that you think local or remote users might be up to no good. For instance, if you are running an anonymous ftp server you might want to give it it's own partition and mount that filesytem as 'nosuid'. I got most of the above info from reading a book callied 'Maximum Linux Security'. 2: In my other machines I have 128 Mb memory, so I have had a 128 Mb swap file. In my new machine I have taken advantage of the low price and put 512 Mb in it. This set me thinking, and I cannot reconcile the following I have been told or read; a: With 512 Mb ram you don't need a swap file b: You must have a swap file 2x ram c: Over 128 Mb ram you must have a swap file of there same size d: A swap file cannot be over 128 Mb e: A swap file cannot be over 256 Mb f: A swap file cannot be over 512 Mb g: Swap files must be in multiple of 128 Mb h: Swap files are an irrelevance on modern machines The amount of space you want to give for a swap partition depends on a few system specific factors, imo. It depends on how much memory you have, how large of programs you run and how many. I see that Karsten seemed to have answered that how big a swap partition can be depends on the machine architecture, and this same info is also contained the the partitioning how-to at the url I gave. Where you place it can depend upon a few things too. If you are not hardly ever giong to be making use of swap, I suggest putting towards the rear of the drive. If you think you are going to be using all your ram and hitting the swap occasionaly and/or on a regular basis then I recommend putting it towards the front of the drive, where access by the drive heads occurs pretty quickly, or next to a partition where you believe a lot of drive activity occurs and the drives heads are spending a lot of their time already, such as /usr. My questions are not from a lack of research, rather I have found out too much which is contradictory. I would like some guidance in sorting the what from the chaff here Keith -- +--+ | Keith O'Connell | That which does not kill | | Maidstone, Kent (UK) | us, usually still hurts. | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | That's just life, I'm afraid | +--+ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] All in all, I hope this and others who have responded have helped, Jimmy Richards Q: What did the instructor at the school for Kamikazi pilots say to his students
Re: partitioning revisited
Oh, A couple things I wanted to include that I forgot. Just thought I would let you know that I have 512 MB's of ram and felt that I wouldn't be using swap very much, so I made my swap partition 256 MB. And, in case it's of any help, here is some info about my layout. I just made an extended partition and all my logical partitions are within it. I didn't use a primary myself. Disk /dev/hdc: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 2495 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes Device BootStart EndBlocks Id System /dev/hdc1 1 2495 200410565 Extended /dev/hdc5 * 1 3 24034+ 83 Linux /dev/hdc6 412 72261 83 Linux /dev/hdc713 2035 16249716 83 Linux /dev/hdc8 2036 2243 1670728+ 83 Linux /dev/hdc9 2244 2402 1277136 83 Linux /dev/hdc10 2403 2433248976 82 Linux swap /dev/hdc11 2434 2487433723+ 83 Linux /dev/hdc12 2488 2495 64228+ 83 Linux FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/hdc6 68M 43M 22M 66% / /dev/hdc5 23M 3.5M 19M 16% /boot /dev/hdc7 15G 5.1G 10G 34% /usr /dev/hdc8 1.6G 1.1G 547M 66% /var /dev/hdc9 1.2G 37M 1.1G 4% /home /dev/hdc11410M 181M 225M 45% /opt /dev/hdc12 61M 4.1M 56M 7% /tmp HTH, Jim Richards
Re: aptitude woes
Hi Again, Ah. Ok. Maybe it is a package dependency problem then, because when I do a 'dpkg -p aptitude' I show libncurses5 as a depends for aptitude. Do you have libncurses5 installed? What does the above command show on your system? I imagine you probably got it straightened out by now though. Jim Richards That was my first thought, but libncurses5 was not among the packages that I attempted to install.
Re: nvidia: downgrade to XFree86 4.0
Hi Dwanye, I hope the following will work for you. First, I should let you know that I use an older version of the Nvidia drivers, because the have been very stable for me and and UT wigs out when I try to go from full screen into a windowed mode with it. The latest seem to work fine for a friend of mine who has an AMD motherboard(different chipset than mine). It seems every time Nvidia comes out with a newer version it break compatibilty on one of our chipsets and makes it work on the other. I'm using NVIDIA_GLX-0.9-769(and kernel of course), fyi(for your information), unpacked from tarball. I go into the kernel one and do a make clean, then make. In the glx i just do a make. Then I make sure the following directories look like below, if you see anything different, and you probably will, at least in /usr/X11R6/lib, then remove the files that are not shown in the listing. c243491-a:/home$ ls -l /usr/lib/libGL* lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 16 Jul 21 22:33 /usr/lib/libGL.so - libGL.so.1.0.769 lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 16 Jul 21 22:33 /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 - libGL.so.1.0.769 -rwxr-xr-x1 root root 218388 Jul 21 22:33 /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.0.769 lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 21 Jul 21 22:30 /usr/lib/libGLU.a - ../X11R6/lib/libGLU.a lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 13 Jul 21 22:30 /usr/lib/libGLU.so - libGLU.so.1.3 lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 13 Jul 21 21:43 /usr/lib/libGLU.so.1 - libGLU.so.1.3 lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 26 Jul 21 21:43 /usr/lib/libGLU.so.1.3 - ../X11R6/lib/libGLU.so.1.3 lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 20 Jul 21 22:33 /usr/lib/libGLcore.so.1 - libGLcore.so.1.0.769 -rwxr-xr-x1 root root 2075568 Jul 21 22:33 /usr/lib/libGLcore.so.1.0.769 c243491-a:/home$ ls -l /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL* -rw-r--r--1 root root 551646 Jul 13 00:31 /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.a -rw-r--r--1 root root 693832 Jul 13 00:31 /usr/X11R6/lib/libGLU.a lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 13 Jul 21 21:43 /usr/X11R6/lib/libGLU.so.1 - libGLU.so.1.3 -rw-r--r--1 root root 490796 Jul 13 00:31 /usr/X11R6/lib/libGLU.so.1.3 -rw-r--r--1 root root26252 Jul 13 00:31 /usr/X11R6/lib/libGLw.a (wrapping off on above listing intentionally) Hope that helps, Jimmy Richards On Mon, Aug 06, 2001 at 02:45:25AM -0600, Dwayne C. Litzenberger wrote: Does anyone know how to get the nvidia binary-only drivers to work with XFree86 4.1 (I know I shouldn't use an nVIDIA card, but it came with the computer)? If not, does someone know a procedure for getting and downgrading to XFree86 4.0? -- Dwayne C. Litzenberger - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nvidia: downgrade to XFree86 4.0
Hi, The tarballs are not source either. They just install an already built binary. You can get the latest .tar.gz of them from www.nvidia.com HTH, Jim R. On Mon, Aug 06, 2001 at 06:36:38AM -0600, Dwayne C. Litzenberger wrote: On Mon, Aug 06, 2001 at 01:34:59PM +0100, Stephen J. Thompson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello all, I see this regulary, binary only drivers from nVidia. Where are they? I downloaded the source for the drivers from the nVidia site and have regulary compiled them against whatever kernel I am using. Where are YOU getting the sources? apt-get install nvidia-glx-src # Doesn't actually have sources -- Dwayne C. Litzenberger - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: aptitude woes
Hi, There was an error when dpkg tried to install the package, but has nothing to do with aptitude itself per se. Try doing a dpkg -C and/or dpkg -l libncurses5 you'll probably see that libncurses5 is not fully installed. See if you can figure out how to fix it. dpkg --configure -a may or may not help. Anyway, it's highly unlikely that it's aptitude's fault the the package installation failed and is most likely an installation script problem, like the /var/lib/dpkg/info/libncurses5.postinst script for instance. Good Luck, Jim R. On Tue, Aug 07, 2001 at 01:28:22AM +1000, Rob Weir wrote: I've just been playing around with aptitude, and when it finished downloading a few packages and began installing them, it came up with this error: E: Internal Error, Could not perform immediate configuration (2) on libncurses5 Ack! Something bad happened while installing packages. Trying to recover: Press return to continue. Is this a known bug?
Re: linux certification
Hi Peter, I would also like to get certified. I am working on getting the Sair Linux and Gnu certifications from the web site you listed and I may also go for the certification from www.lpi.org. You might want to look there too. It's a lot to learn! But I think well worth it no matter what anybody might say alongs the lines of I don't think certification really means or matters that much, just look at the article at www.linuxjournal.com blah blah blah or whatever. I only know that I will feel that I have learned a lot after I get through the books and take the tests. So I recommend not listening to anyone who might say something negative. I feel that going though the books is making me learn a great deal more than I otherwise would. This list is also a great way to learn a heck of a lot, so stay tuned in! I have made a number of replys to try and help answer questions, and have also made a number of mistakes when doing so. But oh well. I think a number of my replys have helped too. :-) It's good way to get Linux concepts ingrained into your noggin. Good luck in your endeavor. Live and Let Learn I always say! Jimmy Richards UNIX is basically a simple operating system, but you have to be a genius to understand the simplicity. --Dennis Ritchie On Fri, Aug 03, 2001 at 11:50:52AM -0400, Peter Kok wrote: Dear all I am looking for linux certification which recognized by the Unix world Do you think the http://www.linuxcertification.com is good to start? Could you have another suggestion? Your precious advice is much appreciated. Thank you Best regards Peter -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: add multiple users .....or import from text file....
Hi, There is a utility called 'newusers'. But I think it may be kind of limited as I don't think it copies over the files from /etc/skel. Hope that helps though, Jim R. On Wed, Aug 01, 2001 at 01:42:53PM -0700, Mike Egglestone wrote: Hello all... Does anyone know of a neat script or utility that would allow me to add a whole bunch of linux accounts at once? Either from importing accounts from some kind of text file... or something similar? Even better,, a script that would add samba passwords at the same time... Thanks Mike ~~Bill, Bill who?~~ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to detect scans
Hello, If you like iptables as a firewall you could check out firestarter at http://sourceforge.net/projects/firestarter/ I really like it. It shows ports probes and you can click on someone who port probes you and select 'Deny all connections from this machine'. Of course that requires that you be in X-Windows and it requires X to go through the setup wizard. Th port probes/scans are shown in realtime of course. Cheers, Jim Richards Hi, Could anyone point me to info on how to detect scans on a machine? BTW, it's potato. Thanks in advance! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kernel 2.4.7 doesn't work
Hi, Do you use lilo? If so could you please post that file? And also the output of ls -l /boot/vm* Thanks, Jimmy Richards On Sun, Jul 29, 2001 at 12:36:03PM +0800, Tao Liu wrote: I upgraded my potato to sid today, and I installed the packageKernel-image-2.4.7-686 When I reboot, my computer shows: ... Linux IP multicast router 0.06 plus PIM-SM request_module[block-major-3]: Root fs not mounted VFS: Cannot open root device 302 or 03:02 Please append a correct root= boot option Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount rootfs on 03:02 I can still use kernel 2.2.19pre17 now, and it works very good (snipped fstab file) Now, what shall I do to use kernel 2.4.x? -- Regards, Tao Liu _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to stop some system services?
Hi Tao, You can shut it down with '/etc/init.d/zope stop' and to keep it from starting again during bootup you can use the update-rc.d command like so 'update-rc.d -f zope remove'. You might want to check out the man page for that command. Hope that helps, Jim Richards On Sun, Jul 29, 2001 at 12:52:46PM +0800, Tao Liu wrote: How can I stop the system services I dont want them to run? Forexample, I don't want zope to run, but is starts when I turn on my cumputer. In redhat, I use ntsysv . How can I do in debian? -- Regards, Tao Liu _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (newbie from RH) How can i create a .deb package, or compile a source .deb package ?
Hi Armin, I am not able to give a very good answer myself, but I am will give you what little info I know. I was hoping that someone would have replied to your question already but from my mail it does not look like anyone has yet. An answer may be in the mailing list archives too, which can be searched. But anyway, I have only done this once a long time ago with a source package that I downloaded from freshmeat I think it was and was made with debian in mind, as it had a directory in it named 'rules'. All I did was type indebian/rules and by typing man -k debian there are a few man pages about it too. Such as dh_builddeb. Maybe some of the man pages might be of help. I see people asking about this when I'm in IRC and mostly the response is debian/rules or ./debian/rules. I may be trying to do some more of this myself in the future sometime. Oh. btw, when I did do the one debian package build it made the .debs in the parent directory of the directory I was in. As in i was in /usr/local/src/source_of_program and made the .debs in /usr/local/src. So you might want to look for them there when you try it out. Hope that helps! Jim Richards Q: What did the instructor at the school for Kamikazi pilots say to his students? A: Watch closely. I'm only going to do this once. On Sat, Jul 28, 2001 at 09:37:34PM +0200, Irger Armin wrote: Hi, how can i create a .deb package ? And how can i compile a .deb source package ? -Armin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Getting CPU model and speed without rebooting
Hi, How about trying the 'x86info' program. You should be able to get it apt-get. Then run the command 'x86info -mhz'. Here's what I get from running the command... [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ x86info -mhz x86info v1.3. Dave Jones 2001 Feedback to [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Found 1 CPU Intel-specific functions Family: 6 Model: 8 Type 0 [Celeron / Pentium III (Coppermine) Original OEM] Stepping: 3 Reserved: 0 802MHz processor (estimate). Running 'x86info -a' is even more informative. Sorry if this reply was a little late for your report. But I just woke up a little bit ago. HTH, Jim Richards The perfect computer has been developed. You just feed in your problems they never come out again. --Al Goodman On Thu, Jul 26, 2001 at 08:20:13AM +0200, Danie Roux wrote: I want to get the CPU's model and speed without rebooting. /proc/cpuinfo (to me anyway) is useless. Unless someone knows how to convert: vendor_id : GenuineIntel cpu family : 6 model : 8 model name : Pentium III (Coppermine) To a PIII/450? -- Danie Roux *shuffle* Adore Unix PS Output from a Dec Alpha's cpuinfo: cpu : Alpha cpu model : Unknown cpu variation : 0 cpu revision : 0 cpu serial number : Linux_is_Great! ... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nslookup and packages
Hi Kalle, You can go to http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages to lookup pacages that contain the file foo. HTH, Jim Richards Only one thing is impossible for God: To find any sense in any copyright law on the planet.--Mark Twain On Thu, Jul 26, 2001 at 02:49:51PM +0200, Kalle Hasselstr?m wrote: What package contaisn nslookup? Is there a command that lists all packages that supply command (or file) foo? -- Kalle Hasselstr?m
Re: Getting CPU model and speed without rebooting
On Thu, Jul 26, 2001 at 01:46:57PM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote: on Thu, Jul 26, 2001 at 02:46:32PM -0500, Nathan E Norman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Thu, Jul 26, 2001 at 10:38:46AM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote: on Thu, Jul 26, 2001 at 06:29:43AM -0600, Jimmy Richards ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Hi, How about trying the 'x86info' program. You should be able to get it apt-get. Then run the command 'x86info -mhz'. Here's what I get from running the command... ...um, what package you got that in? I can't find a package matching 'x86info', and apt-cache search turns up a blank on the term. Try: $ dpkg -S $( which x86info ) sources.list: # apt package archives deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free deb-src http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free deb-src http://http.us.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main contrib non-free deb-src http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main contrib non-free ...am I missing something? Hi Karsten, I'm not sure. Maybe it came from the following in my sources.list? deb http://people.debian.org/~branden/ woody/$(ARCH)/ deb-src http://people.debian.org/~branden/ woody/source/ Jim R. I once heard two ladies going on and on about the pains of childbirth and how men don't seem to know what real pain is. I asked if either of them ever got themselves caught in a zipper. --Emo Philips
Re: gunzip: ae_962.orig.tar.gz: not in gzip format
Hi Andy, Once in a while the someone names the file .tar.gz when they tar it then don't use gzip on it. Try just untaring with tar xvf file and see what happens. That may do it, not sure. HTH, Jim Richards Abstainer: a weak person who yields to the temptation of denying himself a pleasure. --Ambrose Bierce On Thu, Jul 26, 2001 at 05:40:21PM -0400, Andrew Dixon wrote: Hi All, I just downloaded the source to ae from the Debian home page and when I try to untar it I get the following error: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ tar -zxvf ae_962.orig.tar.gz gzip: stdin: not in gzip format tar: Child returned status 1 tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ I also tried to just gunzip it but I'm having no luck there either: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ gunzip ae_962.orig.tar.gz gunzip: ae_962.orig.tar.gz: not in gzip format Anybody know what's going on here? Alternatively does anyone know where I can find the source for ae? Thanks, Andy -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Getting CPU model and speed without rebooting
On Thu, Jul 26, 2001 at 01:46:57PM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote: ...um, what package you got that in? I can't find a package matching 'x86info', and apt-cache search turns up a blank on the term. Try: $ dpkg -S $( which x86info ) ...am I missing something? -- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.comhttp://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of Gestalt don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ http://www.kuro5hin.org Are these opinions my employer's? Hah! I don't believe them myself! Hi Again, Just curious if you found the x86info as available through apt? The ~branden line in my sources.list wouldn't make much sense as to where I could be getting it from because that's all x-windows stuff as far as I know. But the lines you posted from your's matched mine except I don't have stable anywhere in mine, just unstable. Jim Richards
Re: Problem with interface eth0
Hi, Did you compile the driver into the kernel, or as a module? Try the command 'lsmod' if you compiled it as a module and see if you have it loaded. If not, do 'modprobe name_of_module. What kind of 3com card is it? Jim Richards On Wed, Jul 25, 2001 at 11:05:15PM +0200, heissu wrote: I want a ethernet card (3Com). I have compiled the kernel to that ethernet card. I want configure the interface whith the ifconfig command.But when I do: # ifconfig eth0 numIP netmask numNETMASK up , the shell request: SIOCSIFADDR: Unknown device eth0: unknown interface SIOCSIFNETMASK: Unknown device eth0: unknown interface Can anyone help me? Thank you. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dselect question
Hi There Lance, I think one of the best ways to solve this problem would be with the 'dpkg --set-selections' command. Get all the names of the packages you want to have it quit trying to install. Then you can the above command on a command line and it will be waiting for your entries, there will be no command prompt at this point. Type in the name of the first package on your list, then hit tab, then type purge, then hit enter. Then keep doing that for all the problem packages until you're done, then hit CTRL-D to finish it and get back your command prompt. An example follows... c243491-a:~# dpkg --get-selections | grep zgv xzgvinstall zgv install c243491-a:~# dpkg --set-selections zgv purge c243491-a:~# dpkg --get-selections | grep zgv xzgvinstall zgv purge c243491-a:~# HTH, Jimmy Richards On Thu, Jul 26, 2001 at 09:55:38PM -0500, Lance Peterson wrote: I selected some a package with dselect and then it automatically selected a *bunch* of dependent packages. Then I decided not to install the original package, but all the other packages it thought were dependent still try and install every time I run dselect even though the original package has been deselected. Is there a file somewhere that I can purge that has all the pending for install packages so I can just wipe it out and start fresh again? -- Lance Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email (817) 289-2800 x1142 - voicemail/fax __ FREE voicemail, email, and fax...all in one place. Sign Up Now! http://www.onebox.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: TOT Re: Optimizing potato
Hi Andy, Take a look at this web. It may help answer your question. http://www.x86.org/articles/computalk/help.htm Cheers, Jim Richards You have a cough? Go home tonight, eat a whole box of Ex-Lax, tomorrow you'll be afraid to cough. --Pearl Williams On Mon, Jul 23, 2001 at 11:58:48AM -0400, Andrew Dixon wrote: This is totally off topic but I was just wondering. . . What is an i686. i586 is the generic family of processors that the Pentium belongs to if IIRC but I didn't realize that there was another processor family beyond that. just curious as to what i686 signifies. thanks, Andy -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Display managers
Even though I've never done it, I think you could remove all the symlinks in the /etc/rc*.d dirs except for /etc/rc6.d and then it wouldn't restore them on an upgrade, and the rc6.d is for shutdown. So it shouldn't do anything wrong leaving that one there. They can be removed with 'update-rc.d -f xdm remove', for example. But that removes them all, and as you said they would be restored on an upgrade. HTH, Jimmy Richards A lady came up to me on the street and pointed at my suede jacket. 'You know a cow was murdered for that jacket?' she sneered. I replied in a psychotic tone, 'I didn't know there were any witnesses. Now I'll have to kill you too. --Jake Johansen On Mon, Jul 23, 2001 at 06:22:50PM -0700, Geoffrey Romer wrote: What's the surgeon-general-approved way of disabling a display-manager (e.g. kdm, gdm, xdm)? I know I could just delete the relevant symlinks from /etc/rc*.d, but I have a feeling that package upgrades and things like that will just restore them. I'd prefer not to uninstall the package entirely, because then I'll lose the task- package that gave it to me in the first place. -- Geoffrey M. Romer [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Never let your sense of morals prevent you from doing what is right -Salvor Hardin I can't leave you alone with this man! He might be a tenor! -Fred Astaire -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OT] error compiling libFOX - pthread problem?
Hi, I was wondering if anyone could help my try to determine why fox-0.99.142 doesn't seem to want to compile for me. It seems to act like I don't have libpthread. I tried it with fox-0.99.174 also and get the same error as follows... make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/local/src/fox-0.99.142/tests' c++ -DPACKAGE=\fox\ -DVERSION=\0.99.142\ -DTIME_WITH_SYS_TIME=1 -DHAVE_UNISTD_H=1 -DHAVE_DIRENT_H=1 -DHAVE_SYS_PARAM_H=1 -DHAVE_SYS_SELECT_H=1 -DHAVE_ZLIB_H=1 -DHAVE_JPEGLIB_H=1 -DHAVE_PNG_H=1 -I. -I. -I../include -I../include-DHAVE_XSHM -DHAVE_ZLIB_H=1 -DHAVE_JPEG_H=1 -DHAVE_PNG_H=1 -Wall -W -Wmissing-prototypes -Woverloaded-virtual -Wformat -DHAVE_OPENGL -DSUN_OGL_NO_VERTEX_MACROS -I/usr/X11R6/include -c minheritance.cpp /bin/sh ../libtool --mode=link c++ -DHAVE_XSHM -DHAVE_ZLIB_H=1 -DHAVE_JPEG_H=1 -DHAVE_PNG_H=1 -Wall -W -Wmissing-prototypes -Woverloaded-virtual -Wformat -DHAVE_OPENGL -DSUN_OGL_NO_VERTEX_MACROS -I/usr/X11R6/include -o minheritance minheritance.o ../src/libFOX.la -lm -lz -ljpeg -lpng -lz mkdir .libs c++ -DHAVE_XSHM -DHAVE_ZLIB_H=1 -DHAVE_JPEG_H=1 -DHAVE_PNG_H=1 -Wall -W -Wmissing-prototypes -Woverloaded-virtual -Wformat -DHAVE_OPENGL -DSUN_OGL_NO_VERTEX_MACROS -I/usr/X11R6/include -o .libs/minheritance minheritance.o ../src/.libs/libFOX.so -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lXext -lX11 -lGL -lGLU -lz -ljpeg -lpng -lz -lm -lz -ljpeg -lpng -lz ../src/.libs/libFOX.so: undefined reference to `dlerror' ../src/.libs/libFOX.so: undefined reference to `pthread_getspecific' ../src/.libs/libFOX.so: undefined reference to `dlclose' ../src/.libs/libFOX.so: undefined reference to `pthread_key_create' ../src/.libs/libFOX.so: undefined reference to `dlopen' ../src/.libs/libFOX.so: undefined reference to `dlsym' ../src/.libs/libFOX.so: undefined reference to `pthread_setspecific' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make[1]: *** [minheritance] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/src/fox-0.99.142/tests' make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 Kinda hope someone might have an idea as to what's wrong there. Thanks, Jim Richards Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning. --Rich Cook
Re: Unable to upgrade libc6, cannot find why
On Sun, Jul 22, 2001 at 10:00:39AM -0400, J.F.Gratton wrote: Hi, I just tried to install Deb on a new PC, but I can't complete the install, somehow. Here's what happens. - I started the install with Deb 2.2r3's boot floppy (well actually the first cd) and then changed my /etc/apt/sources.list to point to an ftp server with unstable instead of stable. - It downloads the packages OK. Now the fun starts... One the first packages it tries to install is libc6_2.2.3-7_i386.deb, to replace the one from the CD (which is 2.1.3-18). Here's what I get: --- Preparing to replace libc6 2.1.3-18 (using .../libc6_2.2.3-7_i386.deb) ... cp: invalid option -- L Try 'cp --help' for more information. dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.2.3-7_i386.deb (--unpack): subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 1 --- Sorry if this seems long, I thought that putting the whole message might help people. I went throught the /var/lib/dpkg/info/libc6.* to find any mentions of cp -L without finding anything. My system is now stuck half-installed as I cannot continue (libc6 being important as it is for other packages). Anyone knows where to go from there ? Thanks Jeff Hi Jeff, I took a look at my /var/lib/dpkg/info/libc6.preinst file and it has 'cp -L /lib/libdb.so.3 /lib/libdb.so.3.old' on line #21. Not sure exactly what's happening with your's. It seems like you're system just doesn't like the '-L' option for cp. Look at the man page for cp and see if that option is in the there. Even though I have never used the -L option myself, it seems like I have seen it in the manpage for cp for a long time and therefore think that it's a valid option even in older versions a cp, but not sure. For me it shows as '-L, --dereference always follow symbolic links'. My version of the fileutils package is 4.1-2. Hope that helps you get started looking in the right direction to find something out. Jimmy Richards Computer dating is fine, if you're a computer. --Rita May Brown -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is there something wrong with my CPU ?
Hi, No. Nothing wrong there. Says 'OK'. I'm not exactly certain what the remainder of the line means. It may mean the the kernel is using a compiled in bugfix for buggy chipset/fpu's. Or it may mean that it reports errors based on an exception with a value of 16. I'll bet someone can chime in with a better explanation. HTH, Jim R. A girl phoned me the other day and said Come on over, there's nobody home. I went over. Nobody was home. --Rodney Dangerfield On Mon, Jul 23, 2001 at 01:53:18AM +0800, LiuTao wrote: My CPU is celeron433 when I type dmesg, I can see ... CPU: Intel Celeron (Mendocino) stepping 05 Checking 386/387 coupling... OK, FPU using exception 16 error reporting ... Does that mean there is something wrong with my CPU?
Re: Is there something wrong with my CPU ?
Maybe the 16 is the cpu register being used to detect possible errors? Jim R. CPU: Intel Celeron (Mendocino) stepping 05 Checking 386/387 coupling... OK, FPU using exception 16 error reporting
Re: screen 1024x768 desktop 1600x1200
Hi Markus, You could do it by editing your /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file. I use 24 bit color depth and use a resolution of 1280x1024. So I have a section in my Screen Configuration as so... SubSection Display Depth 24 Modes 1280x1024 1024x768 800x600 640x480 EndSubSection I'm no wizard at it, but I'm pretty sure you want 1024x768 to be the first resolution listed there followed by the lower resolutions. Or, a simpler way may be to run 'dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xfree86' and then pick 1024x768 as you're only resolution in there. That command assumes that your xserver is the 'xfree86' xserver. HTH, Jimmy Richards You have to stay in shape. My grandmother, she started walking five miles a day when she was 60. She's 97 today and we don't know where the hell she is. --Ellen DeGeners On Sun, Jul 22, 2001 at 08:27:48PM +0200, Markus Hansen wrote: Thank you for your help, but one last question: the solution of my display is now 1024x768, but the desktop has still 1600x1200, so it scrolls while using it, how can i stop that? thank you for helping me! markus -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: screen 1024x768 desktop 1600x1200
Hi, I'm reading the man page for XF86Config to try to come up with a solution. I see in there an option called 'Virtual xdim ydim' that looks like it would be in the Screen Configuration section. Do you have any line in you're XF86Config-4 file that has 'Virtual' on it? If so it is probably what is causing your viurtual desktop to occur. It may be helpful if you were to post your /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file for troubleshooting purposes. HTH, Jim
Re: screen 1024x768 desktop 1600x1200
Hi Again Markus, Yeah. I know what you mean. You have like a virtual dektop setting. I was hoping one of my suggestions would work for you. Darn. Well, if you have the resolutions in the 'Modes' line like in the example I gave you, you should see if pressing CTRL-ALT-MINUS_ON_YOUR_KEYPAD helps you out for right now. Like I said, I'm not exactly a wizard at the XF86Config-4 file settings, but hopefully someone who has it down will respond. Did you try the 'dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xfree86' command and just specify 1024x768 as the only resolution in there? That might fix it. Not sure if that works ok on potato or not, if potato is what you're using. HTH, Jim On Sun, Jul 22, 2001 at 09:43:07PM +0200, Markus Hansen wrote: hi Jimmy Richards the solution of the display is 1024x768, but the desktop is 1600x1200 large. you know the desktop is bigger than the screen, so you see only a part of it, if you get up with your mouse, the screen scrolls up, if you go left, down, right, the same procedure... i have your lines you wrote downwards only with 1024x768, which i want to have. first my screen was 1600x1200 and that was to uncomfortable... so i wnted to change it down. first desktop 1600x1200 screen 1600x1200 now desktop 1600x1200 screen 1024x768 i hope soon desktop 1024x768 screen 1024x768 do you know what i mean? thanks for helping me. markus
Re: screen 1024x768 desktop 1600x1200
Hey,
Glad you were able to find and cure the problem with the help of
the debian-user mailing list! {:-)
Jim Richards
The perfect computer has been developed. You just feed in your problems
they never come out again. --Al Goodman
On Sun, Jul 22, 2001 at 11:48:16PM +0200, Markus Hansen wrote:
yes thank you!
this line virtual 1024 768 was the solution
markus
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Re: sl anyone? was [Re: ./ in PATH, always bad?]
On Mon, Jul 16, 2001 at 10:57:24PM -0400, D-Man wrote: On Mon, Jul 16, 2001 at 08:36:09PM -0600, Jimmy Richards wrote: | Hi, | | I found that I type 'la' by mistake more often than 'sl', so I made | symlink for sl to la. :-) I Love that train coming down the track! Ok, Aliases are better than symlinks because it doesn't muck up your filesystem. (see man bash) 'la' is more commonly aliased to 'ls -a', but personally I don't use that. -D Hi D-Man, Good suggestion. I wasn't thinking about using the alias option in my ~/.bashrc. I just use the --colors options in there but I will set 'la' as alias for 'sl' thanks to your suggestion. Jim Richards A committee is a group of people who individually can do nothing but together can decide that nothing can be done. --Fred Allen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] binJxJAPeh0mO.bin Description: PGP Key 0x0062D7A7. pgpnv0MHdpo2W.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Kernel upgrades
Hello Wayne, I always upgrade my kernel with kernel source that I have downloaded. But I would think that if you are using apt-get to upgrade your system, that it would offer you a newer kernel via it's upgrade method. If you're not using apt-get you could download a newer kernel .deb than what you have an install it manually. If you are using apt-get then try 'apt-cache search kernel-*' and then 'apt-get install kernel-version kernel-headers-version. Sorry if I'm mistaken here. HTH, Jim Richards I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being ridiculous - everyone hasn't met me yet. --Rodney Dangerfield On Mon, Jul 16, 2001 at 10:18:44PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've noticed that progeny Debian has auto-upgrade of kernel upgrades. How do I do this with my Desktop Debian system, and what are the cons? Wayne binLy2TfPj99v.bin Description: PGP Key 0x0062D7A7. pgpWKa0uPo7tS.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Real Player for potato
On Tue, Jul 17, 2001 at 01:23:23AM +1000, Sam Varghese wrote: On Mon, Jul 16, 2001 at 04:54:44PM +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, is it fine to just run the installer rp8_linux20_libc6_i386_cs2.bin I have already downloaded from real.com, or is there some better way to not upset my stable potato machine? Run the installer. I have done that and I have RealPlayer working on a potato box. When you initially try to play audio/video off the Net, you'll get an error saying that the audio device is being used by another program; change the permissions on /dev/dsp and it will work. Sam -- (Sam Varghese) http://www.gnubies.com Hi, I think the best way to enable the /dev/dsp device for users on your system securitywise is to add them to the 'audio' group with a command like so... adduser user audio Just an fyi, Jim Richards Sometimes I lie awake at night, and I ask, 'Where have I gone wrong?' Then a voice says to me, 'This is going to take more than one night.' --Charlie Brown -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] binTqzscT6ip0.bin Description: PGP Key 0x0062D7A7. pgpEB25h5KfYP.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Unable to delete file
Cool. Glad to be of help. Are you adminisetring Linux system at 'The IQ Group' there in Kansas? I love Kansas. I used to live on a farm there every summer when I was a kid, just outside a little tiny town called White City. Boy, those were the days. Jimmy Richards On Mon, Jul 16, 2001 at 09:29:37AM -0500, Kelly Corbin wrote: That did it, thanks! Jimmy Richards wrote: On Fri, Jul 13, 2001 at 04:17:34PM -0500, Kelly Corbin wrote: I'm trying to upgrade to the unstable release and have hit a major snag. Doing an 'apt-get dist-upgrade' fails with the following message: Unable to update link /usr/share/doc/tk8.2/copyright : Operation not permitted I've tried to delete/chmod/chown it as root to no avail; I still get the 'Operation not permitted'. It's a freakin' copyright file! How is that possible? I thought running fsck would help, but it didn't. Any ideas? I'm completely stuck now and I've never seen anything like this before. Kelly -- -- Kelly Corbin -- Systems Administrator -- -- http://www.theiqgroup.com -- The Future of eServices... -- -- The IQ Group, Inc. -- 6740 Antioch Suite 110 -- Merriam, KS 66204 -- (913)-722-6700 x105 -- Fax (913)722-7264 Hiya Kelly, Have you tried the commands lsattr and chattr? Maybe those will help. Not sure. Good Luck, Jim Richards -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] g Part 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Encoding: quoted-printable Part 1.1.2 Content-Description: PGP Key 0x0062D7A7. Content-Type: application/pgp-keys -- -- Kelly Corbin -- Systems Administrator -- -- http://www.theiqgroup.com -- The Future of eServices... -- -- The IQ Group, Inc. -- 6740 Antioch Suite 110 -- Merriam, KS 66204 -- (913)-722-6700 x105 -- Fax (913)722-7264 bin43sZZM3TLE.bin Description: PGP Key 0x0062D7A7. pgpwfn53wtKuW.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Library versions (libg++2.7.2/libc6.1-1)
On Mon, Jul 16, 2001 at 11:19:53AM -0500, Dave Sherohman wrote: I'm trying to install some software whose installer wants to see libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2, libg++.so.2.7.2, and libstdc++.so.27. I've installed libg++27 and symlinked those libraries from /usr/lib/libc5-compat to /usr/lib and /usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3 to libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2. Hi, I think you need to install the package 'libstdc++2.9-glibc2.1'. It installs a symlink libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2 - libstdc++-2-libc6.1-1-2.9.0.so HTH, Jim Richards To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] binZseAVXcCDM.bin Description: PGP Key 0x0062D7A7. pgpmxaT0VsP4w.pgp Description: PGP signature
sl anyone? was [Re: ./ in PATH, always bad?]
Hi, I found that I type 'la' by mistake more often than 'sl', so I made symlink for sl to la. :-) I Love that train coming down the track! Ok, so there's no track. Maybe that could be in a future version of sl? Anyway, I love that choo-choo. Jim Richards To err is human, but to really foul things up you need a computer. On Mon, Jul 16, 2001 at 06:15:29PM -0700, Eric G. Miller wrote: It just means the attacker has to be a bit smarter and use typos. sl, anyone? Funny, when I type sl, I get a choo-choo train running across the screen! *g* -- Eric G. Miller egm2@jps.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] bin3I4uuCerOL.bin Description: PGP Key 0x0062D7A7. pgp1JEPwv7Emi.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Testing upgrade: Potentially harmful(?) problem
On Sat, Jul 14, 2001 at 09:14:55AM -0400, Sebastian Canagaratna wrote: Jim: Re your suggestion about changing the 70debconf. There was no such file but there was an apt.conf where the line did not have the apt die not have the || true part. I did the change you suggested, but I got the error about the block not having a name. So I did dpkg -i --force-overwrite libc6-dev... It went through up to a point. Then I tried apt-get install debconf and answered YES, do as I say! and it progressed to some point and gagged on crafty. I tried apt-get -f install and I again it gave me a warning about harmful ... I answered YES. IT went through, till it came to lprng: dpkg: error processing lprng (3.7.4-4) (--configure) subprocess popstinstallation script returned error edit status 1. I tried apt-get install --reinstall lprng but I got the same error. DO you have any ideas about how to get around this? Thank you ever so much for you suggestions. Sebastian -- Sebastian Canagaratna Department of Chemistry Ohio Northern University [EMAIL PROTECTED] Howdy Again Sebastian, Sorry, but I guess I forgot to mention that the file would be apt.conf if your running potato. Glad you found the right file though. As for postinst scripts, if you know some bash shell scripting you can open up the package.postinst script in the /var/lib/dpkg/info/ directory and fix the problem with the script. Or, less desirable, make a skeleton package.postinst script of your own like so... cd /var/lib/dpkg/info mv package.postinst ~/package.postinst.bad edit package.postinst (this will be a new an empty file now) #!/bin/sh exit 0 exit your editor and save chmod +x package.postinst then try to install it again as you did above Now, I know it has been a little while and you may very well have already solved this problem, but I couldn't get back to you until just now about it. Either way, I hope it works out all good. Now, with all that said, I would like to say, please don't reply directly to me and my e-mail address, especially without including the reply to the debian-user mailing list. It doesn't really bother me much, but the fact of the matter is that others on the list will not get to see and learn from our correspondence as easily, others may be able to help you out a lot faster than I can get back you, and others on the list can point out mistakes being made and make necessary corrections much more easily if everyone sticks to responding to the debian-user mailing list. That is what it is for. It's not that big a deal but I hope you can see the logic in what I am saying. And just to let you know, some people find it downright offensive to be replied to directly, even if you have included your reply to the mailing list as well, and understanbly so. Please don't think I am trying to be hard on you. Actually just trying to help you out for future correspondences. Thanks and I Hope That Helps, Jimmy Richards Hello, welcome to the psychiatric hotline. If you are obsessive-compulsive, please press 1 repeatedly. binE1GMc73Ltx.bin Description: PGP Key 0x0062D7A7. pgpZB8biruz0S.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Testing upgrade: Potentially harmful(?) problem
On Sun, Jul 15, 2001 at 12:35:25AM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: Jimmy Richards wrote: I got something you can try. Go to you're /etc/apt/apt.conf.d dir directory and then edit the file named 70debconf. Add the following lines below the line that's already there. Or better, just make an /etc/apt/apt.conf file that contains that. -- see shy jo Hi, Does does /etc/apt/apt.conf work on woody or higher? I figured it needed to be in the 70debconf file for my sid system since it's the file that orginally contained the apt options. If so... does the apt.conf file override the 70debconf file? I'll have a look at the man page(s) about this. Good stuff to know. Thanks, Jim Richards Hello, welcome to the psychiatric hotline. If you are obsessive-compulsive, please press 1 repeatedly. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] binjVt3zkxwcf.bin Description: PGP Key 0x0062D7A7. pgp7lGnMVGY4H.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [OT] xumod - undefined symbol error (2nd try)
Hi Andy, Great! I'll give this a try. Sometimes I try to figure out what's by taking a look at the lines referred to in the error message, but I didn't do that on this one. I really appreciate you letting me know how to get it working. Right on! In the future, please make your replies addressed to the debian-user mailing list, so that all on the list can see it! Unless someone has specifically asked that you Cc: to their personal e-mail adddress, usually requested becuse they're not subscribed to the mailing list. No biggie, just an fyi. Thanks again for you're help. I'm off to get xumod working again as per instructions below, Jimmy Richards o _ _ _ __o __o/\_ _ \\o (_)\__/o (_) _`\, _`\, _(_) (_)/_\_| \ _|/' \/ (_)/(_) (_)/(_) (_)(_) (_)(_)' _\o_ On Sun, Jul 15, 2001 at 12:09:26PM -0500, Andy Wettstein wrote: I just installed this today. But I didn't install it like they wanted me to. I did an apt-get install perl-tk libarchive-zip-perl Then I went into the Tie-IxHash-1.21 directory and built that: perl Makefile.PL ; make ; make install and did the same in the Config-Ini-1.06 directory. After that I just copied umod and xumod to /usr/local/bin, and put Umod.pm in /usr/local/share/perl/5.6.1/ and it all worked for me Andy On Fri, Jun 29, 2001 at 01:58:57AM -0600, Jimmy Richards wrote: I sent this message a couple weeks or so ago and just thought I'd try again. No biggie if no one has any clue or response. Greetings and Salutations All, I have an unreolved symbol when I try to run 'xumod'(an Unreal Tournament umod file unpack utility). I was using it just fine until I reinstalled Debian a few weeks ago. I reinstalled because I wanted to use the xfs journaling filesystem, in case you were wondering. I am not sure, but there may have been an update to perl right about the same time. BTW, is there a way to tell the date when a package was installed/upgraded? Anyway, when I try to run it I get the following error... Can't load '/usr/local/lib/perl/5.6.1/auto/Tk/Tk.so' for module Tk: /usr/lib/libpt_linux_x86_r.so.1: undefined symbol: __ti8iostream at /usr/lib/perl/5.6.1/DynaLoader.pm line 202. at /usr/local/bin/xumod line 19 Compilation failed in require at /usr/local/bin/xumod line 19. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/local/bin/xumod line 19. It's no big deal as the command line utility that's included, 'umod', works just fine. And, as usual with command line programs, it is more powerful and flexible than it's gui counterpart(you can use the * wildcard, and it can be used in a script). But it would nice to have xumod working. People checking out my Linux box like to see the X-Windows eye-candy and stuff. Any insight appreciated. umodpack-0.5b16 is available at... http://umodpack.sourceforge.net/ Thank You, Jim Richards I herby decree anyone who does not respond to this e-mail shall be removed from this world by pain of death j/k!! Content-Description: PGP Key 0x0062D7A7. pub 1024D/0062D7A7 2001-05-02 Jimmy Richards (clone-debian) [EMAIL PROTECTED] sub 1024g/BF714AB3 2001-05-02 bin63LaADDvtm.bin Description: PGP Key 0x0062D7A7. pgpDZeVvzjwB5.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Using dselect to update Sid (and failing)
On Sun, Jul 15, 2001 at 08:59:14PM -, Kurt Dresner wrote: Hello, I can't seem to get my computer to update with dselect. It just fails to find about 30% of the .deb files, with the error Unable to fetch file, server said 'debian/pool/blahblahblah: no such file or directory. ' My internet connection works fine, so I don't know what's up. It has been a few weeks since I last updated though. -Kurt Hi Jurt, I use Sid and it seems to me the sid pool has been acting strangely lately. I get 'unable to fetch' error, or after a successful apt-get update the apt-get dist-upgrade gives http 404 errors, then I change servers in my sources.list and try again. Sometimes the dist-upgrade says there's no packages to update. I usually try a few times and then it goes. I dunno what's up, but hope that helps. Cheers, Jimmy Richards Is this the party to whom I'm speaking?--Lily Tomlin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] binmLiaXwT6dh.bin Description: PGP Key 0x0062D7A7. pgp15FiGyuDGA.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Using dselect to update Sid (and failing)
On Sun, Jul 15, 2001 at 03:21:05PM -0600, Jimmy Richards wrote: On Sun, Jul 15, 2001 at 08:59:14PM -, Kurt Dresner wrote: Hello, I can't seem to get my computer to update with dselect. It just fails to find about 30% of the .deb files, with the error Unable to fetch file, server said 'debian/pool/blahblahblah: no such file or directory. ' My internet connection works fine, so I don't know what's up. It has been a few weeks since I last updated though. -Kurt Hi Jurt, Sorry.. mistyped there. I meant Kurt of course! I use Sid and it seems to me the sid pool has been acting strangely lately. I get 'unable to fetch' error, or after a successful apt-get update the apt-get dist-upgrade gives http 404 errors, then I change servers in my sources.list and try again. Sometimes the dist-upgrade says there's no packages to update. I usually try a few times and then it goes. I dunno what's up, but hope that helps. Cheers, Jimmy Richards Is this the party to whom I'm speaking?--Lily Tomlin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Description: PGP Key 0x0062D7A7. pub 1024D/0062D7A7 2001-05-02 Jimmy Richards (clone-debian) [EMAIL PROTECTED] sub 1024g/BF714AB3 2001-05-02
Re: Testing upgrade: Potentially harmful(?) problem
On Sun, Jul 15, 2001 at 05:42:02PM -0400, Andy Saxena wrote: I have recently ugraded from potato. So 70debconf is the new file instead of apt.conf? Hi, Joey Hess sent a response on this explaiing that the 70debconf is a file for programs to use so that they do not have to mess with your apt.conf file. So i guess after the upgrade you need to create your own apt.conf file and add your own options that you want in it. He said it's analagous to the crontab file and the cron.d directory. HTH, Jim Richards I'm always amazed to hear of air crash victims so badly mutilated that they have to be identified by their dental records. What I can't understand is, if they don't know who you are, how do they know who your dentist is? --Paul Merton binhQa1w2SQeg.bin Description: PGP Key 0x0062D7A7. pgpcBFla4cvU0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: sendmail gethostbyaddr fails
On Fri, Jul 13, 2001 at 11:40:49AM -0700, Mike Pfleger wrote: On Fri, Jul 13, 2001 at 01:32:35PM -0500, Jeremy Gaddis wrote: Can you resolve 192.168.1.45 into a fully qualified domain name? Errr... excuse the cluelessness, but how would you recommend doing that? I don't run local DNS, and the DNS entries in /etc/resolv.conf point to my ISPs nameservers on the other side of my firewall. Is this a problem because my firewall assigns IP addresses to the workstations on my LAN via DHCP? I'm still learning lots of things about networking... Hi Mike, Try dig -x 192.168.1.45 Jim TIA, Mike -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problem upgrading testing: Perl may be unconfigured ..
On Fri, Jul 13, 2001 at 03:23:00PM -0400, Sebastian Canagaratna wrote: Hi: I am running the unstable Debian. I tried upgrading ( apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade ) and it seems to abort somewhere along the way with: Perl may be unconfigured ( can't modigy goto in lvalue subroutine return at /usr/perl5/Debconf/Base.pm line 24, near } Compilation failed in require at (eval 4) line 3 .. propagated at /usr/share/perl/5.6.1/base.pm line 18. BEGIN failed-- compilation aborted at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/Iterator.pm line 5 . and ultimately it aborts. Any suggestions as to what to do next? Thanks. Sebastian -- Sebastian Canagaratna Department of Chemistry Ohio Northern University [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Sebastian, Make sure you already have the newest version of 'debconf' installed. If necessary, download the debconf package and install it manually with dpkg -i package command. HTH, Jim Richards -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problem upgrading testing: Perl may be unconfigured ..
On Fri, Jul 13, 2001 at 04:28:17PM -0400, Sebastian Canagaratna wrote: Jim: I spoke too soon ( my machine is very slow: 66MHz ). I did get the same error message as before when I tried what you suggested, but it did not abort. It did install the debconf package and now it seems to have completed preconfiguring the packages and is now unpacking the various packages. It will probably take the whole night. I am keeing my finger crossed. Thanks. Sebastian. On Fri, Jul 13, 2001 at 01:33:37PM -0600, Jimmy Richards wrote: On Fri, Jul 13, 2001 at 03:23:00PM -0400, Sebastian Canagaratna wrote: Hi: I am running the unstable Debian. I tried upgrading ( apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade ) and it seems to abort somewhere along the way with: Perl may be unconfigured ( can't modigy goto in lvalue subroutine return at /usr/perl5/Debconf/Base.pm line 24, near } Compilation failed in require at (eval 4) line 3 .. propagated at /usr/share/perl/5.6.1/base.pm line 18. BEGIN failed-- compilation aborted at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/Iterator.pm line 5 . and ultimately it aborts. Any suggestions as to what to do next? Thanks. Sebastian -- Sebastian Canagaratna Department of Chemistry Ohio Northern University [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Sebastian, Make sure you already have the newest version of 'debconf' installed. If necessary, download the debconf package and install it manually with dpkg -i package command. HTH, Jim Richards Hi Again, Ahh... cool! Glad it seems to be working. Just to let you know, in the future you should only make your replies to the debian-user mailing list, and not reply directly to an invidual's e-mail address unless they have requested it, as this annoys some folks. Doesn't bother me really though. Just an fyi. Have fun! Jim Richards -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] binDBaQ2n4gVf.bin Description: PGP Key 0x0062D7A7. pgpiH7uO4V10Q.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Unable to delete file
On Fri, Jul 13, 2001 at 04:17:34PM -0500, Kelly Corbin wrote: I'm trying to upgrade to the unstable release and have hit a major snag. Doing an 'apt-get dist-upgrade' fails with the following message: Unable to update link /usr/share/doc/tk8.2/copyright : Operation not permitted I've tried to delete/chmod/chown it as root to no avail; I still get the 'Operation not permitted'. It's a freakin' copyright file! How is that possible? I thought running fsck would help, but it didn't. Any ideas? I'm completely stuck now and I've never seen anything like this before. Kelly -- -- Kelly Corbin -- Systems Administrator -- -- http://www.theiqgroup.com -- The Future of eServices... -- -- The IQ Group, Inc. -- 6740 Antioch Suite 110 -- Merriam, KS 66204 -- (913)-722-6700 x105 -- Fax (913)722-7264 Hiya Kelly, Have you tried the commands lsattr and chattr? Maybe those will help. Not sure. Good Luck, Jim Richards -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] binGGh4tikVqv.bin Description: PGP Key 0x0062D7A7. pgpCPwPeVlKmp.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Testing upgrade: Potentially harmful(?) problem
On Fri, Jul 13, 2001 at 06:49:43PM -0400, Sebastian Canagaratna wrote: Hi: I am trying to upgrade testing on my second machine (apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade) but it aborts. So I first tried to install debconf ( apt-get install debconf ) and I get: Extra Packages to be installed: libhtml-parser-perl libhtml-target-perl libmime-base64-perl libperl5.6 perl perl-5.004 perl-5.004-suid perl5.6 perl-base perl-modules. Removed: perl-5.004-base perl-5.005 perl-5.005-base New: libhtml-tagset-perl libperl5.6 perl perl-modules perl-suid Essential package to be removed: perl-5.004-base. You are about to do something potentially harmful. Don't do this unless you know what you are doing. At this stage I aborted. Anybody have any ideas whether its Ok to say yes? Thanks. Sebastian -- Sebastian Canagaratna Department of Chemistry Ohio Northern University [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Sebastian, I think you should be allright if you say yes. I'm running 'unstable' and am wondering a little bit about it removing perl-5.005-base and perl-5.005 because I have those installed, but they are listed as 'transitional packages'. But more or less you're going to have to go through with it if you want to upgrade to testing. You might try 'apt-get install debconf perl-5.005-base perl-5.005' and see what happens with that. But really, I think you'll be ok saying yes. Hope that helps, Jimmy Richards -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] binD3q3mNf6k1.bin Description: PGP Key 0x0062D7A7. pgphYi1cAO773.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Problems with ATI Rage 128 RF video card (signal 11, symbols)
Hello Dark Elf, I have some suggestions that might work. I didn't really see an unresolved symbol problem myself, but maybe I missed it. I'm running unstable myself, so your package may be a little differently named depending on what version of debian you're using. But I would suggest making sure you have the following packages install correctly, and if neccesary, reinstall them... xfonts-100dpi xfonts-75dpi xfonts-base xfonts-scalable and maybe xfs xserver-common xserver-xfree86 (or whatever the appropriate xserver is for your system) and then try the following command.. dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xfree86 HTH, Jim Richards Is this the party to whom I'm speaking?--Lily Tomlin binCr5F2FXeKm.bin Description: PGP Key 0x0062D7A7. pgp7lKROsTgCm.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: linksys nc100 problem. modversions.h not found.
On Fri, Jul 13, 2001 at 04:27:11PM -0700, crombie wrote: hi, attempting to install linksys nc100 ethernet card on debian potato. when compiling using that long gcc command, gcc -DMODULE -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux/net/inet -Wall -Wstrict -prototypes -O6 -c tulip.c '[ -f /usr/include/linux/modversions.h ] echo -DMODVERSIONS` i get errors with problem in finding modversions.h. in fact, i dun have anything under /usr/src/ i looked at the makefile and it was looking for stuff in /usr/src/linux. --help. Howdy Crombie, Try the command 'apt-cache search kernel-source' and then install the kernel source package that matches up to the version of the kernel that you're currently running with, for instance... cd /usr/src apt-get install kernel-source-2.2.19 Then I think you have to untar or bunzip2 it like so... tar zxvf kernel.tar.gz file or tar jxvf kernel.tar.bz2 file Then it should make a directory called 'linux' and you can optionally do the following (it's a good idea)... mv linux linux-2.2.19 ln -sv linux-2.2.19 linux Hope that get you what you're looking for, Jimmy Richards --- Debian gives me a Woody --- bin4ibxd6OnrW.bin Description: PGP Key 0x0062D7A7. pgpA3kd12jpco.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: linksys nc100 problem. modversions.h not found.
Hi Again Crombie My bad. The package you need to get is the kernel-headers package, not the kernel-source, for that file. Still, you might wanna check out the kernel-source anyway. Sorry 'bout that! Jim Richards o _ _ _ __o __o/\_ _ \\o (_)\__/o (_) _`\, _`\, _(_) (_)/_\_| \ _|/' \/ (_)/(_) (_)/(_) (_)(_) (_)(_)' _\o_ bin3IbzAykx8O.bin Description: PGP Key 0x0062D7A7. pgpHOucCzTFQF.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Testing upgrade: Potentially harmful(?) problem
On Fri, Jul 13, 2001 at 09:56:03PM -0400, Sebastian Canagaratna wrote:
Hi (Jim and D):
Some further notes. The dist-upgrade seems to get stuck trying
to install libc6-dev2.2.3-5 ( it seems to think that
this depends on libc62.2.1 ) but this is not available in testing:
trying to overwrite /usr/bin/rpcgen which is also in package netbase
dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal(broken-pipe)
Trying dpkg -i libc6-dev2.2.3-5 also gives the same error.
So even if I try apt-get install debconf perl5.004 etc, it gets stuck
at the libc6dev.
(My other machine, which incidentally is unstable not testing as I
stated earlier had trouble with debconf but I was able to manually
install debconf and seems to be chugging away as I write, installing
the packages)
I can of course try to go to unstable, but I would rather not right
now. What other routes are available
Thanks
Sebastian.
Hi There Sebastian,
I got something you can try. Go to you're /etc/apt/apt.conf.d dir
directory and then edit the file named 70debconf. Add the following
lines below the line that's already there. The line that's already there
is what I will list here first, followed by the additions I want you to
make. You can just copy and paste them from this e-mail if you want.
DPkg::Pre-Install-Pkgs {/usr/sbin/dpkg-preconfigure --apt || true;};
{
Options {--force-overwrite,depends;}
};
Use you favorite editor to add those three lines(the middle one being
the main gist of the thing) and you should be good to go. Really, first
you should back up the orginal with something like so...
cp 70debconf 70debconf.orig
Then when you are done you can restore 70debconf to it's original form.
This cause apt-get to act like dpkg --force-overwrite --force-depends.
Good Luck and let me know how it goes!
Jimmy Richards
He that is slow to believe anything and everything is of great
understanding, for belief in one false principle is the
beginning of all unwisdom.
-- Mahatma Ghandi
On Fri, Jul 13, 2001 at 07:11:45PM -0400, D-Man wrote:
On Fri, Jul 13, 2001 at 06:49:43PM -0400, Sebastian Canagaratna wrote:
| Hi:
|
| I am trying to upgrade testing on my second machine (apt-get
| update; apt-get dist-upgrade) but it aborts. So I first tried to
| install debconf ( apt-get install debconf ) and I get:
|
| Extra Packages to be installed:
| libhtml-parser-perl libhtml-target-perl libmime-base64-perl
| libperl5.6 perl perl-5.004 perl-5.004-suid perl5.6
| perl-base perl-modules.
|
| Removed: perl-5.004-base
| perl-5.005
| perl-5.005-base
|
| New: libhtml-tagset-perl
| libperl5.6
| perl
| perl-modules
| perl-suid
|
| Essential package to be removed: perl-5.004-base. You are about to do
| something potentially harmful. Don't do this unless you know what you
| are doing.
|
| At this stage I aborted. Anybody have any ideas whether its Ok
| to say yes?
The perl version changed. However, perl is a critical component of
the Debian core (dpkg or apt or debconf or something like that). If
you do a dist-upgrade then everything will get upgraded together and
there won't be a problem because you replace one perl with another,
and all the packages that depend on it are replaced with packages that
depend on the new perl instead.
I did a dist-upgrade a few weeks ago without any trouble. Maybe if
you try again, as opposed to upgrading stuff one-at-a-time it will
work better? Why did it abort in the first place? Did dpkg just die?
If so, run it again (it happened to me a couple times).
At the moment I have :
$ dpkg -l perl\*base
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
| Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
|/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err:
|uppercase=bad)
||/ Name VersionDescription
+++-==-==-
pn perl-5.004-bas none (no description available)
ii perl-5.005-bas 6.2Transitional package.
un perl-5.6-base none (no description available)
ii perl-base 5.6.1-5The Pathologically Eclectic Rubbish
Lister.
un perl5-base none (no description available)
-D
Sebastian Canagaratna
Department of Chemistry
Ohio Northern University
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Re: Netscape Plugins
On Sat, Jul 14, 2001 at 12:36:14PM +1000, Bek Oberin wrote: I'm sync'd to Unstable as of a few days ago. But this is a problem that's stayed there through many upgrades of Netscape. It won't recognize plugins. I have installed RealPlayer via the debian package and it kept telling me it wasn't installed but then I installed it via the click here you get when something that needs RealPlayer comes up on a page and had alook and it just put exctly the same stuff in the same directory trees as the Debian package did and - predictably - that didn't work either. I'm using Netscape 4.75. I don't think any of my other plugins are working either, but it's RealPlayer being the only one I want to use really ... bekj Hi Bek, I don't know how to set the mime types in browsers to well, but I have done it a couple times a long time ago. Anyway, I thought I'd suggest you might try a package called 'plugger' and see if that helps. Jim Richards -- : Usual state: (e) None of the above. : [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.tertius.net.au/~gossamer/ : 'Begin at the beginning,' the King said gravely, 'and to on till : you come to the end; then stop.' -- Lewis Carrol -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] bin36iiDOrxHR.bin Description: PGP Key 0x0062D7A7. pgp88zcmWkUG7.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: MUAs that compare with Outlook (your chance to show how much better Linux is than MS!!)
On Thu, Jul 12, 2001 at 09:28:41AM -0700, Kurt Lieber wrote: OK, I've read with great amusement all the chest-thumping going on about MUAs, MTAs and how Microsoft email products are things that you scrape off the bottom of your shoe. I, for one, am brand-spanking new at Linux and have yet to find a Linux MUA that meets my needs. I really do like Linux and would like to transition over to it for my desktop machine, but because of it's weakness on the MUA side, I haven't been able to do so. (weakness is my perception - you can prove me wrong by continuing to read) So, here's a list of my requirements and I'm hoping you guys can point me to an MUA that meets them. If so, I'll gladly switch over to Linux full-time and forswear Microsoft forever. :) - Must be able to handle multiple IMAP-based accounts. (not necessarily on the same server) - Must be able to easily change which account I'm sending email from, ideally selectable from the individual message composition screen. - Must support caching of IMAP messages to local folders (i.e. offline mode) no -- POP3 won't work for me. - Must be able to provide a view similar to Outlook's folder list that shows me, *at a single glance* how many unread messages I have in each of my IMAP accounts. No switching around, no multiple keystrokes -- one screen. - Must have preview pane capabilities or, at the very least, something similar to Outlook's show first 3-lines capability. - Must have sophisticated filtering/rules capabilities. (pretty sure procmail can fulfill this) - Must support automatic spell-checking of emails. - Must seamlessly handle MIME attachments (meaning I click on the add attachment button/key, select the file from the hard drive and send the email message with no other farting around.) - Must have integrated address book (or seamlessly integrate into another address book program) This includes auto-completing email addresses as they're entered and the ability to enter actual names and have the address program substitute the email address upon sending. - Must have integrated calendaring program (or seamlessly integrate into another calendar program) - Must synch up with Palm Pilots (at least address book and calendar -- don't care about synching email) - Address book must support exporting for use in other programs. - Nice to have a debian package, but not required. - Nice to be free, but not necessarily required. - Be as stable (or more) as Outlook 2002. - Does not have to be one single program, but does have to integrate reasonably simply. I'm not willing to write custom code or spend 12 hours on fiddling with things to get them interoperating correctly. (especially as this is not something I have to do with Outlook) These are, IMO, very reasonable, standard requirements and they are things that I *rely* on to get my job done. Again, I really hope that there's a package (or set of packages) that will allow me to do what I'm looking for. So far, I haven't seen it. And yes, I will gladly sacrifice a *little* stability in order to achieve these features and capabilities. If there isn't, then I hope the person who stated anyone who uses MS email products is ignorant will reconsider their statement. Thanks. --kurt Hello Kurt, To be honest I'm not sure about all you're requirements, but I think 'kmail' might be something worth looking into. I have heard good things about 'Sylpheed' but don't know anything about it or it's capabilities, just know the name and what's it general purpose is. Has anyone mentioned and/or are you aware of 'Evolution'? It looks a lot like Microsoft Outlook. One bad thing about it though is that it doesn't support standard mbox mail format, but if it is all you would use for mail on you're linux system then that wouldn't matter I reckon. It's also still heavily in development and therefore somewhat unstable, at least the last time I checked it out, which was quite some time ago now. But I was very impressed with it nonetheless as far as a graphical e-mail client goes. I soon thereafter started using mutt though. I still have a lot to learn about mutt's usage and configuration myself.. but boy, do I like it! HTH, Jim Richards HTH, -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] binXlB8yN1qPm.bin Description: PGP Key 0x0062D7A7. pgpb6kBbuVJYF.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: dpkg problem
On Tue, Jul 10, 2001 at 10:02:03AM -0700, David Fuchs wrote: Joost Kooij wrote: [ouch! next time, please hit enter after +/- 72 characters.] Sorry, I've corrected this now... On Tue, Jul 10, 2001 at 12:08:27AM -0700, David Fuchs wrote: I've recently installed Debian (Potato) on a personal computer, and I'm having some difficulty with the package manager (dpkg) that came with it. The problem came up after I installed the Ximian Gnome packages (via apt-get). Once that had completed, I had a working copy of Ximian Gnome (and all it's other installed applications). I then decided to upgrade XFree86 to v4.1. During the upgrade, I backed up and removed the contents of /etc/X11 and /usr/X11R6, just to start fresh. Don't use apt-get for this directly, use dselect, the proper frontend. The Ximian Gnome crew had the option to install via apt-get. I used that option... Don't use rm -rf for this directly, use dselect, the proper frontend. It wasn't exactly `rm -rf' that I used to rename those folders... but I see your point. Once I had XFree86 4.1 installed, I needed to re-install some of the Ximian Gnome packages (namely gdm, as it's config rested in /etc/X11/gdm). Upon running `dpkg --install', I found that it never actually install gdm. Sure enough, it created the directory structure under /etc/X11/gdm, but there were no files to speak of. The backup I had displayed a number of files (sessions and config data). I tried `dpkg --install' again, and put it in the background. I noticed during the install, that it was creating the proper files that I was missing, but they were suffixed with '.dpkg-new'. Once `dpkg --install' had completed, it removed those files rather than renaming them (to chop the .dpkg-new off). Hence my problem. Don't use dpkg for this directly, use dselect, the proper frontend. Alright, sir, I believe we're vitiating the goal of this mailing list. It would be wonderful if you could back up the monomaniacle inclination toward 'dselect' in your last three statements with some explanation. I'm looking for information on dpkg, not dselect. If I absolutely must use dselect, I would like to know why, and what functionality it provides to Debian that dpkg (or one of the dpkg utilities such as 'dpkg-deb') does not. I'm doing this to learn, and using the base tools for debian package management will inherently tell me how dselect works. Hi. I'd like to insert my two cents worth. I don't believe that dselect provides any functionality that can't be done with dpkg(and it's numerous options). That is why is is called a 'frontend' to dpkg. Personally, I like to use aptitude as my frontend to dpkg and apt. I first learned quite a bit about dpkg before starting to use it though. It seems you are interested in doing the same. Good idea, imho. I even made a little bash script as a way to learn bash shell scripting, dpkg, and apt called 'clone-debian'. It is a little buggy and ugly though(not wrapped to 72 chars) and I haven't worked on it months but have been thinking about doing so again. Some of the bashisms are pretty intense to try and figure out! What frontend to use is simply a matter of personal prefernce, of course. So the question is, why did dpkg not install the files properly? Obviously it's keeping track of what's installed (or should I say, what it *thinks* is installed). dpkg's assumptions don't help me, however, and I can't be certain my applications are installed correctly if it goes removing things after the fact. How can I force dpkg to *forget* about what I've already installed, so I can install it again? Better yet, is there a way to force a proper re-install with dpkg? To check and see if all you applications are installed correctly check out the 'debsums' utility. To reinstall something with dpkg just download the .deb and then 'dpkg -i package.deb'. The default action of dpkg is to reinstall when doing this. For apt-get it's 'apt-get install --reinstall package'. You never completely removed the packages, probably. There is remove, which removes the binaries etc., and there is purge, which also removes configfiles. Ok. When you only remove, and later reinstall, your original configfiles will still be inplace. That is, unless you have removed some of these files while the package was removed, then it will not put a new configfile in if it finds that the old one is gone. This is just like when upgrading an installed package: if you removed a configfile on the old version, you don't expect it to reappear after upgrade. Sounds good. It looks like the reason dpkg removed those 'dpkg-new' files was because dpkg found the package was already installed. This was because it was never purged, only removed. I will attempt to purge everything, and then install. A purge should remove any list files
Re: Ouch, debconf stopped working
On Tue, Jul 10, 2001 at 08:03:13PM +0200, Nico De Ranter wrote: Ok, ok, I know I should have known better. I upgraded to unstable/testing some time ago, a few days ago I noticed X4.x was finaly in unstable so I upgraded again. Only to find out debconf can't live with a recent perl upgrade. Now the only thing I get is something like: Setting up nis (3.9-4) ... Can't modify goto in lvalue subroutine return at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/Base.pm line 24, near } Compilation failed in require at (eval 4) line 3. ...propagated at /usr/share/perl/5.6.1/base.pm line 18. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/Iterator.pm line 5. Compilation failed in require at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/Question.pm line 7. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/Question.pm line 7. Compilation failed in require at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/Config.pm line 5. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/Config.pm line 5. Compilation failed in require at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/Log.pm line 8. Compilation failed in require at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/Db.pm line 5. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/Db.pm line 5. Compilation failed in require at /usr/share/debconf/frontend line 22. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/debconf/frontend line 22. dpkg: error processing nis (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 255 Errors were encountered while processing: nis Unfortunately I can't remove perl since it is kind of vital :-). And it doesn't seem to be possible to reinstall perl because then apt-get tells me perl is already up-to-date. Dito for the debconf package. Any ideas? I'm kind of lost here :-( Thanks in advance, Nico - It has been said that there are only two businesses that refer to customers as users: illegal drug trade and the computer industry. - Nico De Ranter Sony Service Center (SDCE/NEE-B) Sint Stevens Woluwestraat 55 (Rue de Woluwe-Saint-Etienne) 1130 Brussel (Bruxelles), Belgium, Europe, Earth Telephone: +32 2 724 86 41 Telefax: +32 2 726 26 86 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Nico, It's been a long time since I had to deal with this problem. But, I suggest downloading the requisite perl .deb's. See if you have anything in /etc/alternatives that is trying point to perl. Make a symlink in /usr/bin to whatever that may be pointed to and then try to install the .deb's. Or, if no luck there, just try making a symlink in /usr/bin that points to 'perl-5.6' or perhaps 'perl5.6.1' and see if that fixes it by trying to manually installing the .deb's after making those symlinks. I tracked down the problem myself long ago by actually examining the lines of the file given in the error message and trying to figure out what it was having a problem with. If you do this and still can't figure it out message back again with what you did get by digging a little deeper. If you really can't figure it out you could attach the offending .pm files in the error message and I will have a look at them and try to figure out what's wrong by your error messages. If you do that, you may want to e-mail me directly rather than having everyone on the mailing list downloading the attached files. Hope That Helps and Good Luck, Jim Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED] o _ _ _ __o __o/\_ _ \\o (_)\__/o (_) _`\, _`\, _(_) (_)/_\_| \ _|/' \/ (_)/(_) (_)/(_) (_)(_) (_)(_)' _\o_ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] binK5ZTReMWdH.bin Description: PGP Key 0x0062D7A7. pgpGMCIqlAMI0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [users] Mail from OE to linux--Thanks!
On Tue, Jul 10, 2001 at 12:59:35PM -0500, will trillich wrote: On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 05:32:55PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks to all who replied. Your sapient advice has gotten me up and running. This reply is being composed in mutt, somehow it seems to have known to use vim as the editor and I'm not complaining. (I learned ed, ex, and vi in '82 and emacs is a hobby that can wait ;-) Some notes for those who follow in my shoes, and especially for those who intend to write the newbie doc: 1. MacOS and Windows users just don't expect their PC to be a mailserver; they expect a POP3 client to fetch and send mail. Note that the Mutt manual claims that it supports this if you compile it with the pop option, see Chapter 4.10 of the mutt manual. So one could theoretically get by with just fetchmail and mutt. However... 2. Since every Linux box is multiuser and exim is installed by default, newbie docs should plunge in and have the user configure exim. Option 2 worked as advertised for me. 3. A possible strategy for documentation: Examine the configuration tools for Outlook Express and Eudora on both Mac and Windows. Run the configuration wizards for setting up new mail accounts on each. Write a debian newbie doc that maps this experience to the appropriate program and file in Debian-Gnu/Linux. For example: I knew my email address, my password, my ISP's mailserver name (same for both pop3 and smtp, extremely commone in this day age). This is enough info to get me up running with Communicator, Eudora, or Outlook, but I couldn't find a stand-alone document to get email running on Linux. care to pursue that, since 1) it's your idea, 2) a good one, and 3) fresh in your mind? Again, thanks for all the help. I'm not an expert yet (no groovy automatic sig w/examples of how each one of Will Trillich's tips led me to frag my system in a different wayG), but I am getting my mail, using multiple mailbox files, and have mutt running in colors that I can read. Paul Mackinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] glad i could help (that is, if fragging is good)... :) -- DEBIAN NEWBIE TIP #23 from Will Trillich [EMAIL PROTECTED] : Wondering what you should BACK UP -- and what you shouldn't? Here's a how I do it written by a debian-user regular, Karsten Self: http://kmself.home.netcom.com/Linux/FAQs/backup.html This is a frequent topic on debian-user; check the archives at lists.debian.org for other backup approaches -- search for backup scheme. Also see http://newbieDoc.sourceForge.net/ ... Greetings Will Trillich, I just wanted to let you know that when I put in the entire URL http://kmself.home.netcom.com/Linux/FAQs/backup.html by itself, I get the following page http://www.earthlink.net/error/404.html But if I go to http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ and click on the approriate links I arrive at the URL given in your newbie tip. -fyi Jim Richards -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sendmail 8.12 $s macro not fully qualified
On Tue, Jul 10, 2001 at 12:46:28PM -0700, Bill Wohler wrote: I just upgraded to sendmail 8.12 (woody) and have found that the $s (sender's host) macro no longer expands to a fully qualified hostname. Here's a sample log message: Jul 10 10:37:55 gbr sm-mta[17480]: f6AHbtce017480: from=[EMAIL PROTECTED], size=0, class=0, nrcpts=2, proto=ESMTP, ^^^ daemon=MTA, relay=localhost [127.0.0.1] And here's a sample Received header field: Received: from gbr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost ^^^ (8.12.0.Beta7/8.12.0.Beta7/Debian 8.12.0.Beta7-1) with ESMTP id f6AHbtcf017480 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 10 Jul 2001 10:37:55 -0700 Any thoughts on changing that lonely gbr back to gbr.newt.com (or newt.com)? Or shall I report it as a bug? -- Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD Maintainer of comp.mail.mh FAQ and mh-e. Vote Libertarian! If you're passed on the right, you're in the wrong lane. Hi Bill, I think maybe you should look at the either the file /etc/resolv.conf or /etc/mailname. The mailname has my FQDN whereas the relov.conf has just my domain. I'm curious myself as to which one might not have the correct info for you in it. HTH, Jim Richards -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] binwSAqASTQpn.bin Description: PGP Key 0x0062D7A7. pgp7srWhIOJv6.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: More video problems
On Tue, Jul 10, 2001 at 09:18:15PM -0500, Andrew Perrin wrote: I just installed a new, low-end video card in my machine; it's a PCI card based on the nVidia Riva TNT Vanta chipset. Basically it works fine, with the very irritating exception of an intermittent flicker of the screen, more noticeable at high resolutions but existent even in plain text mode. What's interesting is this: the flicker seems directly related to activity on the PCI bus. Every time there's a packet on eth0 (a PCI ethernet card) according to the hub, the screen flickers. Ditto with hard drive activity (it's a PCI IDE interface) and activity on eth1 (another PCI ethernet). Haven't noticed much on the SCSI card, but it's not used much (CD-ROM and Zip). Has anyone seen such a thing? Any advice? Information: Debian 2.2r3 nujoma:~# uname -a Linux nujoma 2.2.19pre17 #1 Sat Jun 30 15:49:52 EST 2001 i586 unknown nujoma:~# lspci -v 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 430FX - 82437FX TSC [Triton I] (rev 02) Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64 00:07.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82371FB PIIX ISA [Triton I] (rev 02) Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0 00:0d.0 Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation 3c590 10BaseT [Vortex] Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 248, IRQ 5 I/O ports at ff20 00:0e.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82557 [Ethernet Pro 100] (rev 02) Subsystem: IBM Ethernet Pro 10/100 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 66, IRQ 9 Memory at fffbf000 (32-bit, prefetchable) I/O ports at ff80 Memory at ffe0 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) 00:0f.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Vanta (rev 15) (prog-if 00 [VGA]) Subsystem: VISIONTEK: Unknown device 0014 Flags: bus master, VGA palette snoop, 66Mhz, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 10 Memory at fe00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) Memory at fa00 (32-bit, prefetchable) Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 1 -- Andrew J Perrin - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.unc.edu/~aperrin Assistant Professor of Sociology, U of North Carolina, Chapel Hill 269 Hamilton Hall, CB#3210, Chapel Hill, NC 27599-3210 USA Hello Andrew, I'm not too sure I can be of any help. But I do happen to think you've got you're IDE/PCI bus running at 66 MHz, which may be causing it to be very unstable if it is only supposed to be running at 33 MHz. The output of my 'dmesg' has this in it... ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx and my devices say 32(i think that can be interpreted as 33 MHz) for the latency... 00:0d.0 Ethernet controller: Lite-On Communications Inc LNE100TX (rev 20) Subsystem: Netgear FA310TX Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 3 I/O ports at 9400 [size=256] Memory at d480 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256] Expansion ROM at unassigned [disabled] [size=256K] Do you know if you're bus is supposed to be running at 66 MHz? Hope that helps, Jim Richards Newbie tip: Want to run a command with exactly the same parameters as it was run with last time? As long as it's in your history you can do it a couple ways. You can scroll back to it by holding down the 'up-arrow' key until you come to it. But, let's say it was 50 commands ago, there's an even better way. Use the '!' character. Let's say you have the following command in your history... find / -user root -perm -4000 -print Instead of typing that all out again or holding down the up-arrow key for a minute, just type in... c243491-a:~# !find find / -user root -perm -4000 -print /usr/bin/newgrp /usr/bin/chfn (snip) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] bingM1VFrfAbL.bin Description: PGP Key 0x0062D7A7. pgpPBYpcbJXM1.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [OT] sendmail FEATURE access_db - configuration help needed
On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 01:25:33PM +0800, Anthony J. Breeds-Taurima wrote:
On Sun, 8 Jul 2001, Jimmy Richards wrote:
Greetings GNU/Linuxer's,
I am hoping someone might be able to help me with the access_db
feature in sendmail. Here's what I did to try and get it to work. I
made a file /etc/mail/access containing one line followed by a newline,
is the newline ok to have in there? (username changed to protect the
guilty)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] REJECT
Okay you NEED to have:
localhost RELAY
127.0.0.1 RELAY
in the file as well
makemap hash access access
Then I edited my sendmail.mc(inserted at bottom of this message) and
ran sendmailconfig and said 'Y' to use the current sendmail.mc file.
The config ran with no errors. Then I said yes to restart sendmail with
the new config. Then I wrote myself an e-mail and tried to send it off.
But the mailq command said 'Connection refused by localhost'
Add those lines and do all that agin.
Yours Tony.
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* The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the
* same level of thinking we were at when we created them.
* --Albert Einstein
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Hi Tony,
I just woke up and received your reply. I'll be doing as you say.
I'm also to change the first line as follows...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ERROR:550 - I don't accept mail from spammers
localhost RELAY
127.0.0.1 RELAY
because I read that that is supposed to work and I like it a little more
than just a general error message, which is what I guess would be sent
with the REJECT.
Thanks A Million Tony!
Jimmy Richards
Denver, CO USA
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[OT] sendmail FEATURE access_db - configuration help needed
Greetings GNU/Linuxer's, I am hoping someone might be able to help me with the access_db feature in sendmail. Here's what I did to try and get it to work. I made a file /etc/mail/access containing one line followed by a newline, is the newline ok to have in there? (username changed to protect the guilty) [EMAIL PROTECTED] REJECT then ran... makemap hash access access Then I edited my sendmail.mc(inserted at bottom of this message) and ran sendmailconfig and said 'Y' to use the current sendmail.mc file. The config ran with no errors. Then I said yes to restart sendmail with the new config. Then I wrote myself an e-mail and tried to send it off. But the mailq command said 'Connection refused by localhost' c243491-a:~# mailq MSP Queue status... /var/spool/mqueue-client (1 request) -Q-ID- --Size-- -Q-Time- Sender/Recipient--- f68Cq8m7009404 21 Sun Jul 8 06:52 longshot (Deferred: Connection refused by localhost) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Total requests: 1 MTA Queue status... /var/spool/mqueue is empty Total requests: 0 ### senmail.mc file minus the copyright portion ### divert(0)dnl define(`_USE_ETC_MAIL_')dnl include(`/usr/share/sendmail/sendmail.cf/m4/cf.m4')dnl VERSIONID(`$Id: sendmail.mc, v 8.12.0.Beta10 2001/05/29 12:00:00 cowboy Exp $') OSTYPE(`debian')dnl DOMAIN(`debian-mta')dnl FEATURE(`access_db', `hash -TTMPF /etc/mail/access') dnl # dnl # General defines dnl # dnl # SAFE_FILE_ENV: `/' is the (Debian) default and will prevent users dnl # from writing to devices. dnl # If *all* your user accounts are under /home then use that dnl # instead - it will prevent any writes outside of /home ! define(`confSAFE_FILE_ENV', `/')dnl LOCAL_CONFIG define(`SMART_HOST', `mail')dnl FEATURE(`masquerade_envelope')dnl LOCAL_CONFIG Cwc243491-a.aurora1.co.home.com FEATURE(`use_cw_file')dnl FEATURE(`use_ct_file')dnl define(`confMAILER_NAME', `postmaster')dnl define(`confTO_QUEUEWARN', `6h')dnl define(`confTO_QUEUERETURN', `3d')dnl dnl # dnl # Dialup/LAN connection overrides dnl # include(`/etc/mail/dialup.m4')dnl include(`/etc/mail/provider.m4')dnl dnl # MAILER_DEFINITIONS MAILER(local)dnl MAILER(smtp)dnl LOCAL_CONFIG ## Custom configurations below (will be preserved) Anything pointers and help will be much appreciated! Thanks for your time, Jim Richards Hello, welcome to the psychiatric hotline. If you are obsessive-compulsive, please press 1 repeatedly. binB0tFCWEsIy.bin Description: PGP Key 0x0062D7A7. pgpWYKtm1NL9Q.pgp Description: PGP signature
[OT] sendmail FEATURE access_db - configuration help needed
Hi Again, I should have added that I get the following messages in my log when trying use that config... Jul 8 06:49:52 c243491-a fetchmail[9371]: SMTP error: 451 4.3.0 Temporary system failure. Please try again later. Jul 8 06:49:52 c243491-a sm-mta[9373]: ruleset=check_relay, arg1=localhost,arg2=127.0.0.1, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [127.0.0.1], reject=451 4.3.0 Do I need to add myself(localhost) to the 'check_relay' ruleset or something? Thanks, Jim --- Debian is Divine --- binkYCvSsNbrg.bin Description: PGP Key 0x0062D7A7. pgp4T1bi6slut.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: No keyboard or mouse in X
On Sat, Jul 07, 2001 at 09:26:21PM -0700, Geoffrey Romer wrote: 'usbmouse' myself just to let you know. My mouse is the same as the one you have. So, you'll need to make sure you have those modules in your kernel config. Here's my relevent modules listing for you... lsmod mousedev hid input usb-uhci usbcore Your solution worked (thanks!) with one proviso- I had to insmod the relevant modules by hand (I did the kernel recompile and install using the standard make-kpkg and dpkg mechanisms). How do I arrange for the necessary modules to load automatically at boot? Hi Again, Great! I'm glad to hear. :-) I've enver used make-kpkg before myself, but am considering trying to learn to use it for my next kernel compilation. I'm having to wait for that though. There's no driver update for my new Promise ATA-100 TX2 Controller card for kernel-2.4.7 series at linux-ide.org yet. The way I get modules to load up at boot time is tup them in the file /etc/modules. You just put each module name on it's own line in there. A way to get modules to load only when neeeded and called upon by the kernel is to put them followed by the proper parameters(if the module needs one) into the file /etc/modutils/aliases and then run the command 'update-modules'. Hope That Helps, Jimmy Richards -- Geoffrey M. Romer [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Never let your sense of morals prevent you from doing what is right -Salvor Hardin I can't leave you alone with this man! He might be a tenor! -Fred Astaire binOoZ8wVtRQK.bin Description: PGP Key 0x0062D7A7. pgpqvgOcRnA62.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Cannot connect to certain web sites
On Sat, Jul 07, 2001 at 08:07:16AM -0400, Kyle Girard wrote:
Hello,
Does anyone know why I wouldn't be able to connect to certain web
pages while i'm in linux? I can connect to almost any webpage but
the following (at this is all i've found so far)
http://java.sun.com
http://www.chapters.ca
http://www.greyhound.ca
I've tried netscape, galeon, mozilla, opera and nothing works...
reboot into windows and I can view them fine..., my housemates also
running linux (redhat) and don't have a problem viewing any of these
pages.. I've uninstalled reinstalled all of the above browsers,
tried as different users, moved my .netscape .mozilla etc
directories out of the way... it's driving my nuts... I remember
that I used to be able to view them... a couple of months ago ...
Can anyone help me out?
Kyle
Hi There Kyle,
Try to stay sane! {:-) The fix is...
echo 0 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_ecn
Enjoy,
Jim Richards
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Re: shutdown as user
On Sat, Jul 07, 2001 at 02:31:21PM +0200, Timeboy wrote: Hi! What can i do to use shutdown as normal user? Timo Hello Timo, I do it like this... su root halt HTH, Jim Richards -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] bintDa8KD1WDU.bin Description: PGP Key 0x0062D7A7. pgpfUiLDnCcFV.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Apt-get
On Fri, Jul 06, 2001 at 05:18:50PM +1000, David Leanne Wiener wrote: Hi, When I apt-get an application, the new packages download fine but then apt-get unpacks another package that was left from a previous session. This package is lilo, I use grub as my boot manager and don't want to change that.How do I stop apt-get from trying to install lilo each time I run it. At the moment I just ctrl-c out of it each time Dave W Hello Dave, It sounds like the lilo package got marked for re-installation. I the word might actually be 'reinst'. I had this same thing happen to me a couple of months ago. There are a few ways to fix it. You can do something like dpkg --set-selections and then type in the name of the pacakge, followed by a space then type 'install'. But I have only used that method once to put a package on hold some months ago and don't exactly remember. Another way I believe would be to use 'dselect'. Personally, I use 'aptitude', and I didn't know what to do about the package I was having this problem with until I fired up aptitude and saw it marked in there as 'ir', which means 'installed reinstall'. If I remember, I just hit the minus sign and then the plus sign on it in aptitude and that fixed it. Another way is to manually edit the file /var/lib/dpkg/status. HTH, Jimmy Richards --- Debian gives me a Woody --- o _ _ _ __o __o/\_ _ \\o (_)\__/o (_) _`\, _`\, _(_) (_)/_\_| \ _|/' \/ (_)/(_) (_)/(_) (_)(_) (_)(_)' _\o_ The above ascii art was from another debian-user on the list. I like! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] binxdhhhplgjo.bin Description: PGP Key 0x0062D7A7. pgpcJFBE35MB5.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: No keyboard or mouse in X
On Fri, Jul 06, 2001 at 12:38:45PM -0700, Geoffrey Romer wrote: tatus: O Content-Length: 1943 Lines: 42 I've been having some trouble setting up a friend with a Debian system. First, I installed Debian 2.2 (stable) from CD, using the normal install methods. The mouse (a USB mouse) worked fine under X, using /dev/psaux (I think). The keyboard (a PS/2 keybaord) worked at the console, but not under X. On further investigation, we found that a USB keyboard would work under both X and the console. In an attempt to rectify this and other problems, I switched to deb-unstable, including an upgrade to XFree4 and kernel 2.4.5. After the upgrade was complete, we found that the keyboard worked at the console, but neither the keyboard nor the mouse worked under X. This was true of both the PS/2 and USB keyboards, the USB mouse, and the USB mouse, fitted with an adapter and plugged into the PS/2 port. Investigating further I found the following odd behavior: running cat /dev/psaux produces the message keyboard: Timeout - AT keyboard not present? Wiggling the mouse then produces garbage, as would be expected for a working mouse. XF86Config is set up to listen to /dev/psaux, and yet X simply doesn't recognize keyboard or mouse input. I don't think it's a protocol problem, because moving the mouse produces no response at all, rather than the garbled pointer behavior a bad protocol would suggest. Ideally, we'd like the PS/2 keyboard and the USB mouse to work, but if anyone can suggest a way to get any combination of keyboard and mouse working, I'd be grateful. Hi Geoffrey, I hope you don't mind, but I am going to paste the contents of a reply that I sent out just the other day on my version of how to get a Microsoft USB Intellimouse Optical working. I also use a PS/2 keyboard with the above mouse and have never had any problem with the keyboard setup, until the other day I installed this version of X, 4.1.0-0pre1v3 and then I did not choose the proper number of keys for my keyboard. The fist time I through the configuration/setup I chose 101 key keyboard. So then when that didn't work I did... dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xfree86 and chose 104 key's and it was good. I hope the following helps you with the mouse. (pasted in portion) I'll try and help you out here. I use /dev/usbmouse, but /dev/input/mice applies to the device file in the same way. I'll get to it in a sec. First, you don't have all the modules you need loaded. I put them in /etc/modules so that they load when I boot up. You're missing 'hid', 'mousedev', and I don't have/use a module called 'usbmouse' myself just to let you know. My mouse is the same as the one you have. So, you'll need to make sure you have those modules in your kernel config. Here's my relevent modules listing for you... lsmod mousedev hid input usb-uhci usbcore Then, (my example will be with /dev/usbmouse)once you've got the modules thing straightened out, go into /dev and make the device file with the correct major and minor numbers, 13 and 32 respectively. The 13 63 doesn't work for me. cd /dev rm -fv usbmouse mknod usbmouse c 13 32 Now that the device file is made, as long as the modules are properly loaded, you should be able to test it by catting it to stdout... cat /dev/usbmouse This will give you a bunch of strange characters as you move the mouse around. Now you should be ready to start X. Good Luck, and again, I HTH!, Jim Richards -- Geoffrey M. Romer [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Never let your sense of morals prevent you from doing what is right -Salvor Hardin I can't leave you alone with this man! He might be a tenor! -Fred Astaire -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trou binIsOvUltL2l.bin Description: PGP Key 0x0062D7A7. pgpEjwnjim5y9.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: x wincdow login after reboot
On Fri, Jul 06, 2001 at 04:33:20PM -0400, Peter Kok wrote: Hi all I would like to stop X-window login after reboot how do i do it? Tks regards Peter Hi, Try update-rc.d -f xdm remove HTH, Jim Richards -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] binzuHLZ3nGZl.bin Description: PGP Key 0x0062D7A7. pgpiTZvZRsES4.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: error trying to use XFree86 4.x.x with USB Microsoft Intellimouse....
On Wed, Jul 04, 2001 at 09:42:16AM -0400, Walter Tautz wrote: Ok, Followed the instructions at www.linux-usb.org/USB-guide/ Hiya There Walter, I'll try and help you out here. I use /dev/usbmouse, but /dev/input/mice applies to the device file in the same way. I'll get to it in a sec. First, you don't have all the modules you need loaded. I put them in /etc/modules so that they load when I boot up. You're missing 'hid', 'mousedev', and I don't have/use a module called 'usbmouse' myself just to let you know. My mouse is the same as the one you have. So, you'll need to make sure you have those modules in your kernel config. Here's my relevent modules listing for you... lsmod mousedev hid input usb-uhci usbcore Then, (my example will be with /dev/usbmouse)once you've got the modules thing straightened out, go into /dev and make the device file with the correct minor and major numbers, 13 and 32 respectively. The 13 63 doesn't work for me. cd /dev rm -fv usbmouse mknod usbmouse c 13 32 Now that the device file is made, as long as the modules are properly loaded, you should be able to test it by catting it to stdout... cat /dev/usbmouse This will give you a bunch of strange characters as you move the mouse around. Now you should be ready to start X. Good Luck and Enjoy! Jimmmy Richards Is this the party to whom I'm speaking? - Lily Tomlin but X gives error: (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/input/mice No such device. (EE) USB Mice: cannot open input device (EE) PreInit failed for input device USB Mice The device does exist! ls -al /dev/input/mice crw-r--r-- 1 root root13, 63 /proc/bus/usb/devices gives: T: Bus=01 Lev=00 Prnt=00 Port=00 Cnt=00 Dev#= 1 Spd=12 MxCh= 2 B: Alloc= 0/900 us ( 0%), #Int= 0, #Iso= 0 D: Ver= 1.00 Cls=09(hub ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS= 8 #Cfgs= 1 P: Vendor= ProdID= Rev= 0.00 S: Product=USB UHCI Root Hub S: SerialNumber=b400 C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=40 MxPwr= 0mA I: If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 1 Cls=09(hub ) Sub=00 Prot=00 Driver=hub E: Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS= 8 Ivl=255ms T: Bus=01 Lev=01 Prnt=01 Port=01 Cnt=01 Dev#= 2 Spd=1.5 MxCh= 0 D: Ver= 1.10 Cls=00(ifc ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS= 8 #Cfgs= 1 P: Vendor=045e ProdID=0029 Rev= 1.08 S: Manufacturer=Microsoft S: Product=Microsoft IntelliMouse? Optical C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=a0 MxPwr=100mA I: If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 1 Cls=03(HID ) Sub=01 Prot=02 Driver=usb_mouse E: Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS= 4 Ivl= 10ms and lsmod gives: Module Size Used by usbmouse1648 0 (unused) input 2752 0 [usbmouse] usb-uhci 17984 0 (unused) usbcore44560 1 [usbmouse usb-uhci] 3c59x 21200 1 -- I put the appropriate entries as suggested for a wheel mouse: (The whole configuration XF86Config-4 file is included): SEE END of this message for XFree86.0.log file. # File XF86Config -4 generated by xf86config. # # Copyright (c) 1999 by The XFree86 Project, Inc. # # Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a # copy of this software and associated documentation files (the Software), # to deal in the Software without restriction, including without limitation # the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense, # and/or sell copies of the Software, and to permit persons to whom the # Software is furnished to do so, subject to the following conditions: # # The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in # all copies or substantial portions of the Software. # # THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED AS IS, WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR # IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY, # FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NONINFRINGEMENT. IN NO EVENT SHALL # THE XFREE86 PROJECT BE LIABLE FOR ANY CLAIM, DAMAGES OR OTHER LIABILITY, # WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, TORT OR OTHERWISE, ARISING FROM, OUT OF # OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE SOFTWARE OR THE USE OR OTHER DEALINGS IN THE # SOFTWARE. # # Except as contained in this notice, the name of the XFree86 Project shall # not be used in advertising or otherwise to promote the sale, use or other # dealings in this Software without prior written authorization from the # XFree86 Project. # # ** # Refer to the XF86Config(4/5) man page for details about the format of # this file. # ** # ** # Module section -- this section is used to specify # which dynamically loadable modules to
Gratuitous Entertainment - ChatBreak
Howdy Folks, I thought this might bring a smile to your faceand break up the day a little. It's written with AOL chat room's in mind, but I suppose it could apply to a mailing list as well! I hope you like it... Have you ever said this to someone I'm just gettin' on for a MINUTE I got up this morning, but haven't yet dressed. My dishes aren't done, and my house is a mess. Have not done my work, have not fed the cat, Just on line for a second, and popped in to chat. ~ I used to watch TV, I used to cook Mex, I think I remember...yeah, I used to have SEX! I used to walk upright, now roll on my chair, Tho' it causes the neighborhood children to stare. ~ I wanted to travel around on the Net, Been too busy chatting to get on there yet. I wanted to spreadsheet, word process, or paint, But gettin' on with them is just what I ain't! ~ So much to learn and I wanted to but I'm too busy chatting and splitting a gut, Talkin' and listenin'...is it such a sin? Oh, gawd, what a fix I have got myself in! ~ Then up pops a name on my neat Buddy List, Think I'll go out and give HIS tail a twist! And in comes an IM from some weirdo guy I cuss 'im, insult 'im, and tell him bye bye. ~ Is there a 12 step, support group, or such? For those of us folks who chat on too much? If there was a group, I would like it just fine, Except that it prob'ly would be here online! ~ Are there therapists here? I think that I saw some Its got me, its got me, its power is AWESOME. It's my new computer, I've had it one week, Now I look in the mirror and I see a geek. ~ Or maybe a geekess, but I see the signs, Please help me, please help me, please get me offline! Or better, please Email a burger and fries, 'Cause I'm staying ONLINE, at least 'til I die!!! Lol, Jim Richards P.S. I'm not the one who wrote it, in case you were wondering. I don't know who did. binUB713Nlq3w.bin Description: PGP Key 0x0062D7A7. pgpBwHBU8sL3Q.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: apt-get slow w/dsl?
On Fri, Jun 29, 2001 at 06:33:13PM -0500, Leonard Leblanc wrote: Has anyone else out there had a problem with running apt-get with dsl? I recently switched my home system over to linux and used Enternet scripts to start and stop pppoe. Everything works great except apt-get seems really slow. I don't know if it's just the US servers or my crappy connection. Any thoughts? Hi Leonard, You might want to try a utilty called 'apt-spy'. HTH, Jimmy Richards -- Leonard Leblanc Vice President - Technology www.emergeknowledge.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] binSF04jytPvW.bin Description: PGP Key 0x0062D7A7. pgpfawFrbyqIe.pgp Description: PGP signature
xaw3g Segfault
Hello Fellow Debianites, I have tried to use the xaw3gd widget set and followed the instructions in the README.Debian, but it bombs out with a Segfault. I'm lost as to what I might be doing wrong and am hoping that someone might be able to help. I think it may be a little trickier to set up xaw3dg than the instructions contained in the README. Or maybe it's because I'm using 'sid'(unstable). Maybe I need to file a bug report? Like I said I'm lost on this one. In case you'r curious, I'd like to use it for the vice and freeciv-xaw3d packages. Any help appreciated! [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ LD_PRELOAD=/usr/X11R6/lib/libXaw3d.so xedit Segmentation fault [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ii libxaw64.0.3-4 ii libxaw74.0.3-4 ii libxaw7-dev4.0.3-4 ii xaw-wrappers 1.11 ii xaw3dg 1.5-7 ii xaw3dg-dev 1.5-7 Thanks, Jim Richards binBIAWttjeR6.bin Description: PGP Key 0x0062D7A7. pgpJJmRiKA9Kf.pgp Description: PGP signature
[OT] xumod - undefined symbol error
Greetings and Salutations All, I have an unreolved symbol when I try to run 'xumod'(an Unreal Tournament umod file unpack utility). I was using it just fine until I reinstalled Debian a few weeks ago. I reinstalled because I wanted to use the xfs journaling filesystem, in case you were wondering. I am not sure, but there may have been an update to perl right about the same time. BTW, is there a way to tell the date when a package was installed/upgraded? Anyway, when I try to run it I get the following error... Can't load '/usr/local/lib/perl/5.6.1/auto/Tk/Tk.so' for module Tk: /usr/lib/libpt_linux_x86_r.so.1: undefined symbol: __ti8iostream at /usr/lib/perl/5.6.1/DynaLoader.pm line 202. at /usr/local/bin/xumod line 19 Compilation failed in require at /usr/local/bin/xumod line 19. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/local/bin/xumod line 19. It's no big deal as the command line utility that's included, 'umod', works just fine. And, as usual with command line programs, it is more powerful and flexible than it's gui counterpart(you can use the * wildcard, and it can be used in a script). But it would nice to have xumod working. People checking out my Linux box like to see the X-Windows eye-candy and stuff. Any insight appreciated. umodpack-0.5b16 is available at... http://umodpack.sourceforge.net/ Thank You, Jim Richards I herby decree anyone who does not respond to this e-mail shall be removed from this world by pain of death j/k!! bingYRkGLalrP.bin Description: PGP Key 0x0062D7A7. pgptnV5H8uOK2.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: internet w/ dhcpcd
On Wed, Jun 27, 2001 at 06:27:25PM -0700, Andrew Agno wrote: Robert Matijasec writes: and it keeps trying until it times out. Where could the problem be ? It seems the system reconizes my ethernet card, and it even seems I get a connection to my provider. Can you ping your ethernet card? How about your gateway? What does % route -n tell you? pump came w/Debian install, but after putting on dhcpcd I assumed it would have been neatly removed. You can always check to see if pump is still there, using dselect or dpkg. Andrew. Hi Robert, I could be wrong about this, but I think dhcpcd only works with 2.0.x and 2.4.x kernels. Are you using a 2.4.x kernel? If so you may need to use pump instead of dhcpcd. If you are getting a connection to your network provider then I'll assume that you are using an older kernel and something else is the problem. Hope that helps anyway, Jimmy Richards -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] binRnP6uVhx06.bin Description: PGP Key 0x0062D7A7. pgpiXDmk6x5Cl.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: net mask
On Mon, Jun 25, 2001 at 10:22:05PM +0200, nico de haer wrote: Jimmy, I'd like to point out that it is NOT possible to calculate the netmask. (at best you can calculate the network class). The problem is that you can't tell if there is some sub (or super) networking going on. so your only option is to *ask* the provider. (see ip-subnetworking howto) regards, Nico de Haer Hello Nico, Thank you for pointing out the correct way to get the proper netmask for ip's that are given to you by your network provider. I have a couple of books on networking I recently purchased, and will read them and the ip-subnetworking howto that you suggest. I couldn't help but wonder if the calculator gave the correct answer. I put my own ip in and it didn't answer with the subnet mask that my isp gave me. I then downloaded a newer version of the calculator, that was several versions newer, and it still didn't give the same subnet mask my isp gave me. So I figured I had better start doing some reading. I assumed the calculator would give a proper answer, but I should have known it wouldn't be that simple when it comes to networking. There is one thing that I hope you don't mind me pointing out to you Nico. It is considered unpolite netiquette to 'cc' someone in on your reply to the mailing list, unless they have requested it. I have seen some people respond as if they consider it to be pretty rude. It's no big deal to me, but in the future you might want to reply to the mailing list only, fyi. Thanks again for pointing out the error of my ways. Cheers, Jimmy Richards - Original Message - From: Jimmy Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 10:04 PM Subject: Re: net mask On Mon, Jun 25, 2001 at 09:14:49PM +0200, Daniel de los Reyes wrote: My provider has assigned me the following ip range 213.201.43.208-15 what net mask should I use? Hi Daniel, I used a network calculator to get the following information. According to it you should use a netmask of 255.255.255.0. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ipcalc.pl 213.201.43.208 Address: 213.201.43.20811010101.11001001.00101011 .1101 Netmask: 255.255.255.0 == 24 .. . Wildcard: 0.0.0.255 .. . = Network: 213.201.43.0/24 11010101.11001001.00101011 . (Class C) Broadcast: 213.201.43.25511010101.11001001.00101011 . HostMin: 213.201.43.1 11010101.11001001.00101011 .0001 HostMax: 213.201.43.25411010101.11001001.00101011 .1110 Hosts/Net: 254 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ipcalc.pl 213.201.43.215 Address: 213.201.43.21511010101.11001001.00101011 .11010111 Netmask: 255.255.255.0 == 24 .. . Wildcard: 0.0.0.255 .. . = Network: 213.201.43.0/24 11010101.11001001.00101011 . (Class C) Broadcast: 213.201.43.25511010101.11001001.00101011 . HostMin: 213.201.43.1 11010101.11001001.00101011 .0001 HostMax: 213.201.43.25411010101.11001001.00101011 .1110 HTH, Jimmy Richards -- __ Daniel de los Reyes S2-Desarrollo, Grupo S2 Valencia Spain e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Powered by Debian GNU-Linux 2.2r3 __ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com bintfrZxlSkEL.bin Description: PGP Key 0x0062D7A7. pgp8MFO1vIc8b.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: xfree 4.1 packages
On Wed, Jun 27, 2001 at 12:48:38AM +0200, Thomas Hess wrote: hi, anyone knows a location for xfree 4.1 deb-packages? thx in advance. tom Hi There Tom, You can check out this web site. http://people.debian.org/~branden/ Good Luck, Jim Richards -- Thomas Hess mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ:112712215 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Anacron job 'cron.daily'
On Mon, Jun 25, 2001 at 09:35:34AM +, Vittorio wrote: I regularly receive the following message I can't make head or tail of. What's htdig for and htmerg? Could someone tell what should I do? Ciao Vittorio Anacron [25/06/01 09:16 +]: /etc/cron.daily/htdig: htmerge: Unable to open word list file '/var/spool/htdig/db.wordlist.work' Hello Vittorio, I'm not real familiar with htdig, but it says it's a Intranet indexing and search system. You can see the description by using the command 'dpkg -p htdig'. Or 'apt-cache show htdig' if you don't have it installed. If you have htdig installed and want to know what htmerge does then type in 'man htmerge'. I believe that htdig will create a database that indexes either your entire linux system, or maybe it just does directories that it been configured to index, such as where all your web pages are stored. I suppose it also creates a web page that you can pull up in your web browser enter in what you want to search on and then hit enter(or click a search button with your mouse) to perform the search. But I'm not sure about that. Like I said I'm not that familiar with it. I have installed it but haven't actually used it, yet. But I do know that I got the same message as you posted, until one day I decided to let a daemon run that I also do not make use of at this time, but have installed, which is the http daemon, or apache(I did 'update-rc.d -f apache remove after it was installed). That day, my hard drive started going off. I thought, 'Oh, it's running an updatedb. But it kept going, and going, and going. So I realized something more was going on and had a look. Htdig was running. It obviously needed apache to be up and running to create the '/var/spool/htdig/db.wordlist.work' database that's in your(and was in my) cron job message. If you want to use htdig and let it make the database, you'll need plenty of room on your /var partition. I have a 20 GB hard drive, about 12 GB's of that is used, and it used 480 MB of space for it's database files on my var partition. Like I said, I don't know exactly what it indexed, so if I'd had a bunch of web pages in the directory where there are normally stored for apache to serve up, it may have even needed to make make a bigger database than the 480 MB's. From the description of htdig it seems that it can index several systems. So, if you have htdig installed I think it can be set up to index other machines that are networked to your machine. It'd probably make a real big database then! To wrap this up, if you want the database to be created, install and run apache(or another http daemon other than apache might work also) at least on the day that cron kicks off the htdig job. Or, as I saw another reply suggest, purge the htdig package with 'dpkg --purge htdig'. Or, if you want to leave the htdig package installed, but don't want to see the cron job message htmerge: Unable to open word list file '/var/spool/htdig/db.wordlist.work', then move the cron job file into a temporary holding directory with something like the following... cd /etc mkdir temp_removed_cron.daily cd cron.daily mv htdig ../temp_removed_cron.daily Or maybe edit the /etc/cron.daily/htdig file so that it doesn't run by making every line a comment. Hope that helped Vittorio, Jimmy Richards --- Debian gives me a Woody --- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] bin09YfmjifAy.bin Description: PGP Key 0x0062D7A7. pgpdyB57eWaZm.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Can't read bootup message
On Mon, Jun 25, 2001 at 11:40:14AM +0200, Matthias Fechner wrote: Hi, On Sun, 24 Jun 2001, Chun Kit Edwin Lau wrote: I noticed that when I booted up Linux, I saw some error message. But the message just when very fast that I couldn't really read it. dmesg and the message file didn't have that error. I think it was some shell script error. Can anyone show me a way to show all the message in some kind of log file for the bootup process. Hi Mattias, The best way to examine init errors that aren't logged to 'dmesg' is to use the 'Suspend' control key. Suspend can be used once the kernel has booted up enough that kernel has enabled it. It is not long into the boot sequence before it is enabled. When the boot sequence comes to the point where you start receiving the error messages, press CTRL-S. This suspends processing of the bootup sequence temporarily. If the message you want see has scrolled off the screen, use SHIFT+PAGE_UP to scroll up a page at a time. SHIFT+PAGE_DOWN can be used to scroll back down. To Start the boot sequence back up from it's suspended state, hit CTRL+Q. You can see the CTRL-S and CTRL-Q keyboard bindings in the command 'stty -a' if you wanna a look. HTH, Jim Richards Gruss Matthias -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] binJFfsfG3lxK.bin Description: PGP Key 0x0062D7A7. pgpyVbncAxMXg.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: net mask
On Mon, Jun 25, 2001 at 09:14:49PM +0200, Daniel de los Reyes wrote: My provider has assigned me the following ip range 213.201.43.208-15 what net mask should I use? Hi Daniel, I used a network calculator to get the following information. According to it you should use a netmask of 255.255.255.0. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ipcalc.pl 213.201.43.208 Address: 213.201.43.20811010101.11001001.00101011 .1101 Netmask: 255.255.255.0 == 24 .. . Wildcard: 0.0.0.255 .. . = Network: 213.201.43.0/24 11010101.11001001.00101011 . (Class C) Broadcast: 213.201.43.25511010101.11001001.00101011 . HostMin: 213.201.43.1 11010101.11001001.00101011 .0001 HostMax: 213.201.43.25411010101.11001001.00101011 .1110 Hosts/Net: 254 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ipcalc.pl 213.201.43.215 Address: 213.201.43.21511010101.11001001.00101011 .11010111 Netmask: 255.255.255.0 == 24 .. . Wildcard: 0.0.0.255 .. . = Network: 213.201.43.0/24 11010101.11001001.00101011 . (Class C) Broadcast: 213.201.43.25511010101.11001001.00101011 . HostMin: 213.201.43.1 11010101.11001001.00101011 .0001 HostMax: 213.201.43.25411010101.11001001.00101011 .1110 HTH, Jimmy Richards -- __ Daniel de los Reyes S2-Desarrollo, Grupo S2 Valencia Spain e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Powered by Debian GNU-Linux 2.2r3 __ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] binGiOJ6J0zyh.bin Description: PGP Key 0x0062D7A7. pgp9YaLHXyoVQ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Stop apt-get upgrade from messing with fetchmailrc?
On Sun, Jun 24, 2001 at 12:23:05PM +0200, Mart van de Wege wrote: On Sat, 23 Jun 2001 12:19:51 -0500 ktb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as /etc/fetchmailrc being chowned to root. I would think that is the way it should be. With very few exceptions, in /etc, most are root.root. I suspect what you could do is cp /etc/fetchmailrc to ~/.fetchmailrc Set the owner and group to that of you're home directory and - $ chmod 600 .fetchmailrc hth, kent Hmmm, ok, so leaving 1 link in /etc/rc2.d would stop fetchmail being installed as a systemwide daemon. That's good, but I think you missed my question on the file permission on /etc/fetchmailrc. It *is* set to owner root.root, but upgrading fetchmail changes it to fetchmail.root. As I said, ISTR this is a policy violation, isn't it? Mart Hi, I might know what is happening here. The script that starts may be chown'ing the file when it is started to make certain it has the correct perrmisions and ownership/group settings before starting up the daemon. I could tell you to look at the file /usr/share/doc/fetchmail/README.Debian.gz, but I would rather just go ahead and include in my reply here. I think it is a 'recent' change to fetchmail in that you can now choose to run it as 'root' or an 'unpriviledged user', and you should be getting prompted for this if you are using debconf. It gives you a fairly stern warning about running choosing to run it as root as opposed to an unpriviledged user. You should be able to get the debconf configuration to come up by running the command 'dpkg -reconfigure -plow fetchmail'. The following is from /usr/share/doc/fetchmail/README.Debian.gz Fetchmail and security: Don't run fetchmail as root if you can help it. Fetchmail does a lot of manipulation on untrustable data (e.g.: email headers) and has had buffer overflow security holes fixed in that area. Nobody knows how many of those are still left. The safest way to run fetchmail is to run it as an unpriviledged user (e.g. using the system-wide fetchmail facility described below, and the fetchmail user), delivering through SMTP. This is Debian's default configuration. Hope that helps!, Jimmy Richards -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] binMarLSkvy4O.bin Description: PGP Key 0x0062D7A7. pgplQIDR8OTu2.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Stop apt-get upgrade from messing with fetchmailrc?
- Forwarded message from longshot - To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Stop apt-get upgrade from messing with fetchmailrc? Hi, should be able to get the debconf configuration to come up by running the command 'dpkg -reconfigure -plow fetchmail'. -- Sorry, I meant the command to be 'dpkg-reconfigure -plow fetchmail' Hope that helps!, Jimmy Richards -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] - End forwarded message -
Re: locale error on potato
On Sun, Jun 24, 2001 at 07:29:40PM +0200, Stefan Bellon wrote: Hi! Since I switched back from sid to potato and installed the Ximian Gnome Desktop I often get the following warning message: perl: warning: Setting locale failed. perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: LANGUAGE = (unset), LC_ALL = (unset), LANG = en.ISO8859-1 are supported and installed on your system. perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale (C). The locale setting on potato seems to be different than that one sid. So, how do I correct this? TIA. Greetings, Stefan. Hi, I don't know if potato has this command or not, but you might try running 'locale-gen' and see if that fixes it. HTH, Jimmy Richards -- Stefan Bellon * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www.sbellon.de/ PGP 2.6 and GnuPG (OpenPGP) keys available from my home page 99% of accidents occur at home ... stay safe, go out lots! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] bindwUP5YXE0s.bin Description: PGP Key 0x0062D7A7. pgpodPlXBmYSV.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Stop apt-get upgrade from messing with fetchmailrc?
On Sun, Jun 24, 2001 at 09:17:11PM +0200, Mart van de Wege wrote: Hmm, Sylpheed doesn't seem to want to include your original post in the reply, so apologies if this is a little disjointed. Since the /etc/pcmcia/network script starts as root, it would be a minor change to just add a 'su fetchmail -c start-fetchmail-command' instead of starting fetchmail as root outright? Does this return to a normal root shell for the rest of the network script? AFAIK starting fetchmail is the last thing I do in my pcmcia script, so it would not hurt either way, but I'm just curious. I *really* want fetchmail to run only when the pcmcia is plugged in, otherwise it will overrun my syslog with whining about not finding mailservers, and I have logcheck running, so those whines will clog up my inbox (Thank $DEITY for filters). Well, I don't think adding the 'su' command you mention would change the shell's enviroment. I believe the shell would still be a normal root shell for the remainder of it's activities. There's probably a way to make certain fetchmail is started only when the pcmcia is plugged in with a little bash or perl scripting I imagine, but I don't use a laptop myself. As an aside, you should only make your reply's to the debian-user mailing list, not to a person's private e-mail address and the mailing list. Good Luck, Jimmy Richards Mart -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] bindkNpwSEZHx.bin Description: PGP Key 0x0062D7A7. pgpIuxthaEgyV.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: integrity check?
On Sat, Jun 23, 2001 at 10:45:50AM -0600, Robert L. Harris wrote: Is there a way to have apt check all the installed packages and look for missing files or modified files? I've found over the course of time some missing libs and such and instead of rebuilding the machine it would be alot easier to find out what I accidently removed, etc. :wq! --- Robert L. Harris| Micros~1 : Senior System Engineer |For when quality, reliability at RnD Consulting | and security just aren't \_ that important! DISCLAIMER: These are MY OPINIONS ALONE. I speak for no-one else. FYI: perl -e 'print $i=pack(c5,(41*2),sqrt(7056),(unpack(c,H)-2),oct(115),10);' Hello Robert, I think 'debsum -s -a' is the command you could use to do that check. Cheers, Jimmy Richards -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] binjcZ1RT50Iw.bin Description: PGP Key 0x0062D7A7. pgpiLYsY7CMkr.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mosaic: can't find library 'libXt.so.6'
On Sun, Jun 24, 2001 at 08:28:25AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i download Mosaic for Linux and when i run it, it says: Mosaic: can't find library 'libXt.so.6' I find that libXt.so.6 is in /usr/X11R6/lib. I use Debian 2.1 Hello, You might try 'ldd /usr/bin/mosaic'(or whatever it's path is). If it says 'libXt.so.6 = /usr/lib/libXt.so.6' on one of the lines in that display then try making a symlink... ln -sv /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 /usr/lib ...and see if that fixes it. HTH, Jimmy Richards -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] binAWCsPWdXxg.bin Description: PGP Key 0x0062D7A7. pgp0VRzuu6PLx.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Logging Init output?
On Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 11:36:58PM +0200, Mart van de Wege wrote: Folks, I'll provide a little background first: this weekend, the loopback interface on my laptop stopped working. I checked all config files, and they are ok, I can also bring up the loopback manually with 'ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1 up' after which it functions normally. I have seen however an error message flashing by during boot, but it passes too fast for me to see what it says. Thus my question: is it somehow possible to log the output of the init scripts somehow, so that I can debug this problem (the error message only started appearing after I lost loopback, so I'm guessing they are related). Mart Hi Mart, You can try to catch it with a CTRL-S while booting. This will 'suspend' any further processing of the boot process until you press CTRL-Q to let it continue. It gives you a chance to read and examine the boot messages at your leisure, but it can be hard to catch it when it's on the last one or two boot processes though. Cheers, Jimmy Richards -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] binhzjdP6i5m2.bin Description: PGP Key 0x0062D7A7. pgpSzBBPER3iI.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: memory
On Wed, Jun 20, 2001 at 05:40:54PM +0200, Adri wrote: Hello all, I have some scattered questions a) I read that sometimes linu doesn't see all the ram you have installed on your machine. How can I verify hao much ram does my debian sees? And how can I correct the situation in case there's something wrong? Hi Adri, To see how much ram debian sees try the command 'free -m'. The -m switch will show you the amount in Megabytes. b) how can I know how much space on my disk is free and how much is not free? Which is the utility? For this one I would suggest the command 'df -h'. The -h switch means you want to see it in 'human readable form'. Also I saw I have exim installed and I have a smtp service running. How can I send a simple email? I don't want a complete email setup for now, I'd just love to send a simgle email, my first mail from linux !! I should use the smtp relay of the company, should I edit the /etc/exim.conf file? I use sendmail, and it's been a little while since I set up exim, but, if you know what to edit and put in the exim.config file I don't know why that wouldn't work. That is if you know. You could run the command 'eximconfig' and choose to the 'Smart Host' option (I think) and then put in your company's mail host as the relay machine. Hope that's right. Thnak you all Bye Adri I hope that helps a little, Jimmy Richards -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] binQmXHrfJQ6G.bin Description: PGP Key 0x0062D7A7. pgpzE4JlFNhme.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: another strange bootup message: SIOCADDRT: Invalid argument
On Wed, Jun 20, 2001 at 06:36:24PM +0200, Andrea Vettorello wrote: Britton wrote: Oddly, this one does't show up in dmesg. It happens a couple of times during bootup and thats it. Ideas what is going on would be mose welcome. Hi There, Don't know if I can be of much help. Is your networking working at all with this error? Just curious. You might want to make sure that your network card driver is loaded properly, try 'lsmod'. Maybe have a look at the output of the commands 'ifconfig' and 'route', and havbe a look at the files /etc/networks(if you have that. you should have it if you set up your network as a 'static ip' address when you set up debian) and /etc/network/interfaces just see if you can glean any info from them. Are you using pump or dhcp-client? Or is this is static ip setup? Hope that gets you started in the right direction, Jimmy Richards Andrea -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] binWlbvwc6LK6.bin Description: PGP Key 0x0062D7A7. pgpSSQX0wjHXG.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: XMMS: root can / user can not listen Audio CDs
On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 05:52:20PM +0200, Robert Voigt wrote: On Monday 18 June 2001 02:18, Robin Gerard wrote: Sorry for this supid question : How to remove a user of a group ? i.e. do the contrary of addgroup. TIA My Debian book says there is no convenient equivalent to addgroup _yet_. Hello There, I would like to try and give a quick simple answer. I hope I understand the question, it seems simple enough. addgroup group- add a group that does not currently exist to the system delgroup group- delete a currently existing group from the system adduser user group- add a user to a an already existing group deluser user group- delete a user that currently belongs to the specified group from that group Just check out the man pages fro those commands, of course. Hope that helps, Jimmy Richards -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] bin6plPM972SV.bin Description: PGP Key 0x0062D7A7. pgpJ1V8lMjCeX.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Xfree86-4 and large default fonts
On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 08:58:30PM -0500, John Patton wrote: I've recently upgraded from potato to testing, including the switch to Xfree86 version 4. Everything is great except that the default font size for many applications (like netscape and ddd) is now rather huge. I use 800 x 600 screen size, and specify 75 dpi in my xservers file (the actual dpi is more like 63). Anybody else have this problem? Anybody know how to solve it on a system wide basis? I'm at a loss as to why that suddenly happened. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. -- John Patton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get my GnuPG public key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hope is the dream of a waking man. - Aristotle Hello John, I'm don't really know if the following suggestion will help or not. But try taking a look at the file /etc/X11/fs/config. I have a line in mine with this statement 'default-resolutions = 100,100,75,75'. Maybe if yours says the same and you were to change the '100,100,75,75' to '75,75,100,100' that would get you the 75 dpi fonts you want, but like I said, I dunno really, just a guess. Hope that might help, Cheers. Jimmy Richards -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] biniEVaYKwwD6.bin Description: PGP Key 0x0062D7A7. pgpRa8KoGixu5.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Windows-like crashes!
on the NVidia drivers are notoiously buggy, and if the 0.9-769's were working fine for you prior to this, maybe you should consider going back to them. It's too bad that the NVidia drivers aren't OpenSource or GPL'd so those bugs could get fixed a little more quickly! My 0.02 cents worth, Jimmy Richards -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] binbGhtZjEcj4.bin Description: PGP Key 0x0062D7A7. pgprkFHTwYYiO.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Help with glib-config
On Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 04:49:34PM -0700, Cam Ellison wrote: Recently I have tried to install a few applications that are not included in debian packages, and which require compiling. I figured I had everything that was necessary, but the ./configure stage always fails because I don't have the glib-config script that is supposed to be generated by GLIB (the use of uppercase is a direct quote). I have gcc, bison, etc. installed. I have libstdc++. What am I missing? TIA Cam Hello Cam, Personally I am using the 'unstable'(or sid) version of Debian. So, for me, 'glib-config' is supplied by the 'libglib1.2-dev' package. Do you have that installed? If not then installing may cure you're problem. If you already have it installed could you reply with the error message you're getting? Cheers, and I hope that helps, Jimmy Richards -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] bin7TZeTnLhKJ.bin Description: PGP Key 0x0062D7A7. pgpzl4Q0Lxo7l.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: talk does not work after ?
On Fri, Jun 08, 2001 at 08:58:23PM -0500, Balbir Thomas wrote: Hi, I have ktalkd installed since kde does not accept any other . But I am unable to talk even locally on my own pc. Talk hangs after stating [Checking for invitation on caller's machine]. What may be the possible causes ? sincerely b thomas Try 'update-alternatives --config talk' and then select '/usr/bin/netkit-ntalk'as the current program to supply talk. I'm kind of assuming that you also have'ytalk' currently installed which messes with using ktalkd if I'm not mistaken. Hope that helps and good luck, Jimmy Richards -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] binkjQJpD5VbW.bin Description: PGP Key 0x0062D7A7. pgpU9mx5pgnm8.pgp Description: PGP signature
Sendmail Security Violation?
Hi There Fellow Debianites, I got the following message from logcheck. May 23 06:13:15 c243491-a sm-mta[407]: f4NCCqk7000407: from=[EMAIL PROTECTED], size=2433, class=-30, nrcpts=1, msgid=[EMAIL PROTECTED], proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [127.0.0.1] Is there anyone who might know why this would be reported as a security violation? When I set up sendmail I said 'yes' to using dns. Perhaps at that moment it was unable to do a reverse lookup of the senders hostname? I dunno, just a guess. I am just a single desktop user at my own home, so no big deal. I am just curious. Thanks, Jimmy Richards binjOYNeIPLzD.bin Description: PGP Key 0x0062D7A7. pgpizF7RAxtBl.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Sendmail Security Violation?
Hi Mike D., Thanks for answering my question and satisfying my curiosity. I had noticed the 'BAD' in the message id, but didn't give it too much thought because I knew it was random characters. I have a look at the logcheck.violations file and maybe check out those manpages to get a better idea of how logcheck works like you were saying. Thanks Again, Jimmy Richards binabTHGuQEge.bin Description: PGP Key 0x0062D7A7.
Re: opera
On Fri, May 18, 2001 at 06:14:44PM -0400, MaD dUCK wrote: trying to install opera, i got dependency errors, which even apt-get -f install couldn't fix. subsequently i isolated the dependency, and one of those were liblcms. but an apt-get install liblcms yielded: Package liblcms has no available version, but exists in the database. This typically means that the package was mentioned in a dependency and never uploaded, has been obsoleted or is not available with the contents of sources.list Hi. It says it's not available within your sources.list file. It's within mine because I have it installed and I can do a 'apt-cache show liblcms' and it give me the pacake description. Oh, I'm running sid btw. What's your sources.list file look like? Here's mine... deb http://141.213.4.21/debian/ unstable main non-free contrib deb-src http://141.213.4.21/debian/ unstable main non-free contrib deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable main non-free contrib deb-src http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable main non-free contrib deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable/non-US main non-free contrib deb-src http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable/non-US main non-free contrib deb http://www.opera.com/~tfheen/debian potato non-free Cheers, Jimmy Richards E: Package liblcms has no installation candidate huh? how am i going to install this? martin; (greetings from the heart of the sun.) \ echo mailto: !#^.*|tr * mailto:; [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- the only real advantage to punk music is that nobody can whistle it. binfIjWdHmgt4.bin Description: PGP Key 0x0062D7A7. pgpJtTW9OqFLJ.pgp Description: PGP signature
