Re: mplayer: jumping around
Liviu Andronic wrote: Recently I encountered this nasty, aggravating behaviour in mplayer: moving the computer (say, creating a little vibration by knocking on the table, or simply moving a muscle when on my laps) will cause mplayer to scroll forwards or backwards (any of the available 10 or 60 sec, or 5 min). At times it continues like this until the end/beginning of the file. Many times it seems to appear randomly, perhaps on earth quakes or when a heavy truck passes in the neighbourhood. I suspect that the behaviour is caused by the accelerometer that should be present on the notebook, the one that should catch out-of-norm accelerations, shut down the hard drive and prevent data loss. I was once curious on how this works on Linux, and installed couple of packages similar to hdapsd and hdaps-utils. Since I removed these, without any change in mplayer behaviour. As a final note, mplayer looks like the only misbehaving application. Oh, and all this happens on an HP Pavilion dv3. Any ideas on how to work around this issue? Thank you This is a long shot, but mplayer sometimes does that to me in a relatively minor way because the mousewheel moves slightly without me touching it (my mouse is kinda old). Is it possible that the scroll pad on your laptop is being activated by shocks or vibrations? Is there some way you could temporarily disable the touchpad and test it? Anyway, like I say, this is a totally wild guess, but the problem did sound somewhat familiar to me. Another thing to try is to run mplayer from a terminal and see if the output gives you any hints as to what's happening in the background. -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
see ya
When half the list can't figure out how to use a goddamned e-mail client, and so insists on sending out double the number of e-mails just because they feel like it; when the other half seems to mostly enjoy posting links to LMGTFY so they feel like a big shot; when most of the answers have absolutely nothing to do with what was asked, but are instead what the person replying thinks _should_ be the question, it's really time to go. I've been on here a year, and I've gotten decent help from exactly _one_ person, and that was Florian, IIANM. Otherwise, this list just takes up space. -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Could you recommend CD/DVD writer program?
J.Hwan.Kim wrote: Could you recommend CD/DVD writer program except gnomebaker ? Brasero is awesome. -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Could you recommend CD/DVD writer program?
Mark Goldshtein wrote: On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 6:43 PM, JoeHill joeh...@teksavvy.com wrote: J.Hwan.Kim wrote: Could you recommend CD/DVD writer program except gnomebaker ? Brasero is awesome. According to my experience, Brasero is not such stable. Also, a support for external devices is not as good as it supposed to be for a component of a stable distro. Do you have any actual facts to back that up, or just a baseless opinion? So, sorry for mix up KDE and Gnome - k3b is the choice. O course, if you feel yourself familiar with a console - all the tools are already there. Please _do not_ cc me, I am subscribed to the list, and I really don't care what your needs might be in this regard. -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Could you recommend CD/DVD writer program?
Mark Goldshtein wrote: On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 7:51 PM, JoeHill joeh...@teksavvy.com wrote: Please _do not_ cc me, I am subscribed to the list, and I really don't care what your needs might be in this regard. Looks like I am really sorry what Debian Mailing List works this way. No it does _not_ work this way. _You_ are doing it this way, and I have asked you politely not to. If you continue, I will not be polite, and you will fucking regret it. -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Could you recommend CD/DVD writer program?
randall wrote: it might be more productive to send a polite request to change this default behavior to the list maintainer instead of some other remarks made in this thread. I suppose that was indirectly aimed at me... Seriously, I asked politely for the guy to not CC me, and he _deliberately_ ignored my request. He actually looked at what I asked him to do, thought 'no', and did it anyway. I deal with this kind of crap all day from a 5 year old, I really don't need it from someone who is presumably an adult who can do up his own goddamned pants. -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: warning about nautilus and brasero
Francesco Pietra wrote: With my debian squeeze i386 (upgraded to yesterday) calling nautilus and trying to workout Preferences, removes all icons from the gnome desktop. I reenter as user and installed brasero with # apt-get install brasero without paying much attention to what was going on. Well, the X-system was removed. I had to reinstall, and reconfigure, X. Yeah, I've been in the same situation for awhile now. If I want to install Brasero, it will remove all of the Gnome desktop. I don't need Brasero really, so it hasn't been a big deal. -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: How do you install flash player?
Charlie Dorff wrote: I was wondering if someone could explain how to install flash player on debian? Thank you. I'm going to catch hell for this, but download the tar.gz from here: http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/ unzip, and run the installer from a terminal. It will install to your home directory, and it will work like a charm. If it doesn't you may have a conflicting install. In that case, in Firefox, go to Tools -- Addons, and disable any older versions of flashplayer that have been installed by Debian (assuming Mozilla Firefox/Iceweasel). -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Debian vs. ATI Radeon x1650
Brent Clark wrote: On 24/09/2009 15:12, Dominik Smatana wrote: Ubuntu 9.04 kernel 2.6.27-14-generic = OK (strange) Hiya Close your eyes, save yourself time and effort and just use Ubuntu. ...or, save himself even more time and effort and get an NVidia card. -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Debian vs. ATI Radeon x1650
Dominik Smatana wrote: Brent Clark wrote: On 24/09/2009 15:12, Dominik Smatana wrote: Ubuntu 9.04 kernel 2.6.27-14-generic = OK (strange) Close your eyes, save yourself time and effort and just use Ubuntu. Hey, thanks for the advice, but Debian is my #1 priority... I'd rather buy a new card if needed =) lol, I guess I should have read your post first, instead of Brent's :-) Yes, get an NVidia card and your troubles will be over forever. I have never once been unable to get an NVidia card working, and I've been using them with Linux for about 8 years. -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: only one workspace when using compiz
Leonardo Canducci wrote: 2009/9/23 JoeHill joeh...@teksavvy.com: Leonardo Canducci wrote: When I turn on compiz I only have one virtual desktop. Desktop switcher shows two available desktops but I can't change to the second clicking on it. I've tried to change number of desktops option in compiz-config-settings-manager (ccsm) but this particular option is grayed out. Am I missing something or is it a known bug? Should I load some plugin? Btw, I'm using gnome and sid (but the same happens with lenny) on intel 965 graphics. Thanks! Try under 'Desktop', enable Viewport Switcher. Had to install compiz-fusion-plugin-main to have it but anyway nothing changed. number of desktops in general options is still grayed out and set to 1. I also tried assigning a keyboard combo in ccsm's viewport switcher but it has no effect either. Where am I wrong? In the same place where you increase the number of desktops, can you increase the 'horizontal virtual size'? I just noticed that I cannot change the 'number of desktops' either, but I get the same result with 'horizontal virtual size'. I can then switch viewports either by mousewheel on the background or with the 'expo' plugin (under Desktop), in my case I just zip the mouse pointer up to the top left corner. This is set in the Expo prefs. I think it's possible that Compiz settings are a bit more complicated than they need to be ;) -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: only one workspace when using compiz
Leonardo Canducci wrote: 2009/9/23 JoeHill joeh...@teksavvy.com: Leonardo Canducci wrote: 2009/9/23 JoeHill joeh...@teksavvy.com: Leonardo Canducci wrote: When I turn on compiz I only have one virtual desktop. Desktop switcher shows two available desktops but I can't change to the second clicking on it. I've tried to change number of desktops option in compiz-config-settings-manager (ccsm) but this particular option is grayed out. Am I missing something or is it a known bug? Should I load some plugin? Btw, I'm using gnome and sid (but the same happens with lenny) on intel 965 graphics. Thanks! Try under 'Desktop', enable Viewport Switcher. Had to install compiz-fusion-plugin-main to have it but anyway nothing changed. number of desktops in general options is still grayed out and set to 1. I also tried assigning a keyboard combo in ccsm's viewport switcher but it has no effect either. Where am I wrong? In the same place where you increase the number of desktops, can you increase the 'horizontal virtual size'? I just noticed that I cannot change the 'number of desktops' either, but I get the same result with 'horizontal virtual size'. I can change horizontal virtual size and the switcher applet shows me more desktops but clicking on it doesn't switch desktop. I'm stuck with only one. I can then switch viewports either by mousewheel on the background or with the 'expo' plugin (under Desktop), in my case I just zip the mouse pointer up to the top left corner. This is set in the Expo prefs. Expo plugin works and now I can change desktop. At last I found rotate plugin had to be enabled to get the desktop switcher applet to work and this plugin wasn't enabled because I didn't check rotate cube in ccsm. Thanks for helping. I think it's possible that Compiz settings are a bit more complicated than they need to be ;) Well, it's a shame compiz isn't packaged with a working configuration out of the box. I had to struggle to get normal things like windows to move or decoration when I first tried it out and I had to check the web to find answers to have a usable configuration. Absolutely agreed. Same thing here. Once it is working though, I find it hard to do without :-) -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: only one workspace when using compiz
Leonardo Canducci wrote: When I turn on compiz I only have one virtual desktop. Desktop switcher shows two available desktops but I can't change to the second clicking on it. I've tried to change number of desktops option in compiz-config-settings-manager (ccsm) but this particular option is grayed out. Am I missing something or is it a known bug? Should I load some plugin? Btw, I'm using gnome and sid (but the same happens with lenny) on intel 965 graphics. Thanks! Try under 'Desktop', enable Viewport Switcher. -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Losing Debian to the cancer known as HAL
Dirk wrote: I am not affiliated with Gentoo but I see a raising demand for Linux without HAL http://www.google.com/search?q=linux+remove+HAL (Yes, almost 500.000 results) Yeah, and 3,750,000 for 'linux install hal'. So what? -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Losing Debian to the cancer known as HAL
Sam Leon wrote: JoeHill wrote: Dirk wrote: I am not affiliated with Gentoo but I see a raising demand for Linux without HAL http://www.google.com/search?q=linux+remove+HAL (Yes, almost 500.000 results) Yeah, and 3,750,000 for 'linux install hal'. So what? I don't even know what HAL is You don't need to. It just works :-) Just in case you're curious: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardware_abstraction_layer -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
I would like to eject my cdrom
I don't care if 'an appication is preventing' or whatever, I want to damned cdrom to eject. I cannot believe that my hardware is being overridden by software. When I hit the eject button, I really don't give a rat's ass what someone thinks about it, I want it to eject. How can I regain control of this? -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: I would like to eject my cdrom
JoeHill wrote: I don't care if 'an appication is preventing' or whatever, I want to damned cdrom to eject. I cannot believe that my hardware is being overridden by software. When I hit the eject button, I really don't give a rat's ass what someone thinks about it, I want it to eject. How can I regain control of this? In this specific situation, where I was trying to install a 2 disc game through Wine, it turns out there's a 'wine eject' command, and that will override whatever mojo Gnome and Linux are using on me ;) -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: I would like to eject my cdrom
John Hasler wrote: J writes: How can I regain control of this? man eject, and pay special attention to the -a, -i, and -T options. 'eject'? well, that's kind of counterintuitive, isn't it? ;) Thanks! -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: I would like to eject my cdrom
Jerome BENOIT wrote: Hello Joe ! JoeHill wrote: I don't care if 'an appication is preventing' or whatever, I want to damned cdrom to eject. I cannot believe that my hardware is being overridden by software. When I hit the eject button, I really don't give a rat's ass what someone thinks about it, I want it to eject. How can I regain control of this? have you try eject from a console ? I will next time, many thanks. -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Video editing software on Lenny
Roman Gelfand wrote: Can somebody recommend a mp4, vob, etc.. video editing software? Avidemux, Lives, Open Movie Editor, and many others. It depends a lot on your preferences and what you want to accomplish. -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Epiphany browser always starts up off-line
Arthur Barlow wrote: I have a fairly recent clean install of Debian testing and everything works well. Just one thing I find annoying. Whenever I start up the Epiphany web browser, it by default begins in the work offline mode. There's nothing under preferences that I have found to turn this off. Any suggestions? I always get this same problem, and the sol'n has always been to remove network manager. NM tells your applications whether you are online or off, and for some reason it is almost always completely wrong about it. -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
What is this PulseAudio applet?
No complaints so far, but I've got this new Pulseaudio applet in my notification area (looks like a little headphone jack) and I'm not sure what it's all about. There are a lot of options for things that sound really cool, but there's not much of an explanation. I checked on Gnome.org for some information about it, but it was pretty sketchy. Can anyone point me to some more detailed info about what this applet does? Thanks! -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: What is this PulseAudio applet?
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 11:55:20AM -0400, JoeHill wrote: No complaints so far, but I've got this new Pulseaudio applet in my notification area (looks like a little headphone jack) and I'm not sure what it's all about. There are a lot of options for things that sound really cool, but there's not much of an explanation. I checked on Gnome.org for some information about it, but it was pretty sketchy. Can anyone point me to some more detailed info about what this applet does? google much? ;-) www.pulseaudio.org is a good starting point. there is documentation there. That's great, but my question wasn't 'what is pulseaudio?'. I was hoping to get some information about the applet and the options/settings therein. -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Reason #14749 to hate gmail (was Re: List Ettiquette)
Patrick Wiseman wrote: [Yikes! I just sent this to the poster instead of the list, because gmail defaults that way. Oh, the irony (at my own expense)!] On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 4:42 AM, Rakotomandimby Mihaminamiham...@gulfsat.mg wrote: 08/30/2009 07:28 AM, Neal Hogan: As with all subject changing threads, stuff gets confusing . . . mailing list etiquette 101? We should add somewhere in another etiquette dont post from Gmail ;-) I realize that was meant in jest, but, as you see, posting from gmail works perfectly well. It just has some features which require thought before posting to a list with particular requirements, such as this one. Think before posting. Hmm. Maybe we should REQUIRE gmail ;) Strangely, I use gmail for one list I'm on, and it's worked really well. I don't like the non-tree view of threaded messages, but other than that the in line replying works well, the line wrap is accurate, and the quoting is good. Compared to Outlook or Yahoo, GMail is pure heaven. -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: List Ettiquette
Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: We keepers of the in-line posting flame are a shrinking minority, now dominant only on Very Geeky lists. I have to agree. It's sad, but it's true. But this is not only Gmail's fault. Long before it existed The Proper Way of replying was dying. Outlook and Hotmail (which are so bad that even the most geeky user probably could not send a properly formatted e-mail with them) are probably to blame. One thing, however, that is entirely Gmail's fault is showing e-mails as a list, not a tree with ramifications. Along with the reply box in the bottom, this causes unaware users to reply to the last message, even if they are replying to what was said in a previous message. (Not a problem in this list, but I see this happen in other places.) The horrors of GMail pale in comparison to the damage that can be done to a mailing list by one person replying from Yahoo mail. I can't even describe the carnage, it's too horrifying. -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Network Manager cannot be removed
This is going to drive me nuts. I've removed Network Manager in the past because it causes no end of trouble, especially because it never seems to think I'm connected to the Internet, so everything starts in 'offline' mode. Major Gnome update today, and sure enough, Network Manager is installed again. This time however, I cannot remove it without removing Gnome. Can someone please tell me how I can permanently, and with great malice, annihilate Network Manager once and for all? -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Network Manager cannot be removed
Sven Joachim wrote: On 2009-08-30 20:47 +0200, JoeHill wrote: This is going to drive me nuts. I've removed Network Manager in the past because it causes no end of trouble, especially because it never seems to think I'm connected to the Internet, so everything starts in 'offline' mode. Major Gnome update today, and sure enough, Network Manager is installed again. This time however, I cannot remove it without removing Gnome. Can someone please tell me how I can permanently, and with great malice, annihilate Network Manager once and for all? Remove the gnome metapackage. Make sure to mark everything it depends on and which you want to keep as manually installed. Do you mean in Synaptic? I can't see any way to do what you suggest... Thanks! -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Network Manager cannot be removed
John Hasler wrote: JoeHill writes: Can someone please tell me how I can permanently, and with great malice, annihilate Network Manager once and for all? apt-get remove --purge network-manager. Let it remove the gnome metapackage. It's already done its job. That worked, thanks :-) -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Network Manager cannot be removed
Sven Joachim wrote: On 2009-08-30 20:58 +0200, JoeHill wrote: Sven Joachim wrote: Remove the gnome metapackage. Make sure to mark everything it depends on and which you want to keep as manually installed. Do you mean in Synaptic? I can't see any way to do what you suggest... I don't know anything about Synaptic (never used it), but there are apt-mark unmarkauto packages and aptitude unmarkauto packages which you can use at the commandline. Okay, so now I've removed the gnome metapackage, and aptitude keeps wanting to remove all of gnome. I looked at the explanations for unmarkauto, but I'm not sure how I would use that for all of the gnome packages. I mean, not all of them even have the word gnome in them, so what kind of wildcard argument could I use? Is there somewhere I could look for examples of how to use this command? Many thanks for any tips. -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: dvd playback application
jeremy jozwik wrote: On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 9:07 AM, Aioanei Raresdebian.dev.l...@gmail.com wrote: If you try some Google search for, say, dvd playback Debian, I'm sure your problem will be solved in minutes. Hint : debian-multimedia. i thought that is the point of a mailing list. ask other people how they have fixed things. Yeah, but sometimes people get tired of answering the same questions over and over again every time someone tries Linux for the first time ;) I've asked a lot of FAQ questions in my time, though, so I don't complain about it too much. Just add the Debian Multimedia repository to your sources, according to the version of Debian you are using (ie. Lenny, Sid, or Squeeze): http://debian-multimedia.org/ If you install Xine, Ogle or VLC from there, any of them should do DVD playback. For really detailed instructions you can Google 'enable dvd playback debian'. If after this you are still having trouble, then write back and someone will gladly assist you. Cheers! -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: List Ettiquette
Kevin Ross wrote: From: Eduardo M KALINOWSKI [mailto:edua...@kalinowski.com.br] Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 2:07 PM Jason C. Wells wrote: Is it customary here to CC both respondents and the list, or just the list? In BSD-land we CC every individual in a discussion plus the list. Just the list. (After all, the purpose of the mailing list software is to distribute e-mails to those who want them, so no need to do that manually.) http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct How come the list software makes it a hassle to reply to just the list? The CoC specifically states: When replying to messages on the mailing list, do not send a carbon copy (CC) to the original poster unless they explicitly request to be copied. If this is official Debian policy, then why don't they set the Reply-To header to be the list? Aw, crap, here we go again :-( As it is now, every time I reply, I have to manually edit the addressee list. Hitting Reply only goes to the original poster. Reply All goes to the poster and the list. That's because you have a broken mail client. It should have separate buttons or key bindings for reply-sender and reply-list. This debate had been done, something like a billion times. It is the way it is, that's it. There are plenty of discussions of this issue you can read through, in fact it's happened at least three times on this list since I joined just a year or so ago. -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: dvd playback application
jeremy jozwik wrote: On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 2:14 PM, JoeHilljoeh...@teksavvy.com wrote: Yeah, but sometimes people get tired of answering the same questions over and over again every time someone tries Linux for the first time ;) ive been on the openmoko lists for just under a year now and have helped out plenty of newbies with there questions that could easily have been answered searching around the internet. i really dont understand the annoyance that a lot of people on the debian list seem to have. i see it as if i dont feel like reading or responding i simply do not do so. why bother wasting the energy saying google it That is a good question. If you install Xine, Ogle or VLC from there, any of them should do DVD playback. i have already installed and tried those applications, like i said in my original email. and for some reason of another they simply do not work. You need to install them from Debian Multimedia, not from the default repos. For really detailed instructions you can Google 'enable dvd playback debian'. If after this you are still having trouble, then write back and someone will gladly assist you. search result http://tldp.org/HOWTO/html_single/DVD-Playback-HOWTO/ lists several steps. Sometimes you have to put in a little more effort than just looking at the first link that comes up. The third one down, if you used the search term I suggested, is this one: http://www.linwik.com/wiki/configuring+media+and+dvd+playback+in+debian+gnu+linux+5.0 the only thing i did not do was # ln -s /dev/hdc /dev/dvd but that link already exists. everything else is fine. now when i get to the step: 4.2.1. MPlayer Type mplayer dvd://1 to begin playing title #1 on the disc. To play other title numbers, substitute the appropriate number in place of 1. the drive spins up, terminal displays some bits and pieces says playing dvd, MPEG-PS file format detected. and nothing else happens. which is the same thing i said in the first post. im getting pritty frustrated here and just asking for a bit more help then google -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: List Ettiquette
Kevin Ross wrote: From: JoeHill [mailto:joeh...@teksavvy.com] Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 3:11 PM As it is now, every time I reply, I have to manually edit the addressee list. Hitting Reply only goes to the original poster. Reply All goes to the poster and the list. That's because you have a broken mail client. It should have separate buttons or key bindings for reply-sender and reply-list. It's true I'm currently using Outlook from my Windows computer. So that's why the line-wrap is so fscked. Outlook should just be banned outright. It's a blight on all things decent and good. But when I'm at a Linux computer, I use Icedove, with the same results. Same with SquirrelMail webmail client. And RoundCube webmail. (The two that I've had installed on my mail servers). Is there an official mail client of this mailing list that I should be using, on all computers (and OSes) that I access email from? lol, very funny, but no. You just need reply-list, which now that I look (Google), you need an extension to enable this in Icedove. If there _was_ an official mail client, it would be Claws ;) This debate had been done, something like a billion times. It is the way it is, that's it. There are plenty of discussions of this issue you can read through, in fact it's happened at least three times on this list since I joined just a year or so ago. Sorry, I'm new on this list. I guess I'll drop the discussion. Thanks! :-) -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: dvd playback application
jeremy jozwik wrote: On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 3:20 PM, JoeHilljoeh...@teksavvy.com wrote: You need to install them from Debian Multimedia, not from the default repos. the first time i ran the install for mplayer and ogle it was from add/remove. after you suggested i install them from debian multi i removed them from add/remove. seems that they were not really removed. removing from the synaptic manager got rid of them completely and now re installing from the debian multi ogle works. thanks very much No problem! Enjoy your Venture Bros. :-) -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: List Ettiquette
Tim Tebbit wrote: JoeHill wrote: If there _was_ an official mail client, it would be Claws ;) mutt Okay, Claws _or_ Mutt. -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: List Ettiquette
Neal Hogan wrote: using gmail . . . rich formatting . . . clicked repy to all oh . . . and this is top-posted get over the email format! It's called being polite, and putting other people's needs ahead of your own. It's not a bad thing, it's a human thing. gmail provides a nice gui-riffic format that many feel comfortable using. I don't get where this complaining about client usage is going. If you a want more pure OS, then . . . u . . . go somewhere else. It's not a question of 'pure', it's a question of standards. The reason we are all able to communicate is that we all agree to a standard set of symbols to convey meaning. If someone comes on here and starts asking us to forgive the fact that they use different letters than we do, we're gonna say 'go f yourself', and with good reason. Standards are the reason we're all here. Standards are the reason we use things like Debian. Standards are the reason that Debian works. Can people deviate? Yes. Is it a good thing for people to deviate from standards once in awhile? Absolutely. Should they be surprised or confused when someone calls them on it? Not if they have a working brain. -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Nvidia cards
Kevin Ross wrote: From: Patrick Wiseman [mailto:pwise...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 3:49 PM On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 6:38 PM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.b...@iguanasuicide.net wrote: On Wednesday 26 August 2009 16:52:06 Jeff H. wrote: Been thinking of switching to Debian. Does it support Nvidia laptop cards? The nv X11 driver is in the Offical Free-Software-Only Debian package repository. I think the nouveau X11 driver is also being packaged by a DD but is not in, or scheduled to be in any release of Debian. The nvidia X11 driver and the kernel module of the same name are part of the non-free repository. These packages are second-class citizens; their closed- source nature makes it impossible to resolve non-packaging issues within Debian. Packages in Official Stable Debian do not get upgraded to new version from upstream, so it will not include the latest release from NVidia. In addition, the kernel module is not always kept in sync with the latest kernel, so you may need to compile that yourself. There are helper scripts and source packages available. While this used to be the case, I think it is no longer so (although I'm on testing, not stable). There is now a package for the nividia kernel and module which keeps everything in sync; I have not had to recompile the kernel to catch up with the nvidia module in a very long time. And it works very nicely. Patrick Only the legacy 173.xx kernel module is in non-free, even in Sid. If you want the new 185.xx series, like for VDPAU for hardware-accelerated video playback, you still need to do it the hard way, which still isn't very hard. What is the 'hard way'? -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Nvidia cards
Jerome BENOIT wrote:
Hello List,
you can find the new 185.xx series in Sid.
Yeah, that's what I just saw. Unfortunately I get this:
node1:/home/joehill# aptitude -t unstable install nvidia-glx
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Reading extended state information
Initializing package states... Done
Writing extended state information... Done
Reading task descriptions... Done
The following packages are BROKEN:
nvidia-glx
The following packages will be REMOVED:
gnome-vfs-obexftp{u} libevolution5.0-cil{u} libhesiod0{u} libkadm5srv5{u}
libopal3.6.1{u} libpam-cracklib{u} libpt2.6.1{u} libusb-1.0-0{u}
libzephyr3{u} nvidia-kernel-2.6.26-1-686{u}
nvidia-kernel-2.6.26-2-686-bigmem{u} padevchooser{u} paman{u} paprefs{u}
pavumeter{u} pulseaudio-module-gconf{u} pulseaudio-module-zeroconf{u}
toolame{u}
1 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 18 to remove and 426 not upgraded.
Need to get 7129kB of archives. After unpacking 33.2MB will be freed.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
nvidia-glx: Depends: nvidia-kernel-185.18.31 which is a virtual package.
The following actions will resolve these dependencies:
Remove the following packages:
nvidia-glx
Score is -9881
Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?]
Does this mean that nvidia-glx will be upgraded?
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Re: Nvidia cards
Jerome BENOIT wrote:
JoeHill wrote:
Jerome BENOIT wrote:
Hello List,
you can find the new 185.xx series in Sid.
Yeah, that's what I just saw. Unfortunately I get this:
node1:/home/joehill# aptitude -t unstable install nvidia-glx
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Reading extended state information
Initializing package states... Done
Writing extended state information... Done
Reading task descriptions... Done
The following packages are BROKEN:
nvidia-glx
The following packages will be REMOVED:
gnome-vfs-obexftp{u} libevolution5.0-cil{u} libhesiod0{u} libkadm5srv5{u}
libopal3.6.1{u} libpam-cracklib{u} libpt2.6.1{u} libusb-1.0-0{u}
libzephyr3{u} nvidia-kernel-2.6.26-1-686{u}
nvidia-kernel-2.6.26-2-686-bigmem{u} padevchooser{u} paman{u} paprefs{u}
pavumeter{u} pulseaudio-module-gconf{u} pulseaudio-module-zeroconf{u}
toolame{u}
1 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 18 to remove and 426 not upgraded.
Need to get 7129kB of archives. After unpacking 33.2MB will be freed.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
nvidia-glx: Depends: nvidia-kernel-185.18.31 which is a virtual package.
The following actions will resolve these dependencies:
Remove the following packages:
nvidia-glx
Score is -9881
Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?]
Does this mean that nvidia-glx will be upgraded?
Hello List,
actually what I am doing, given that my box is a Lenny box,
I grab the Sid source and I build the Debian packages with dpkg tools.
Your top-post is no match for my cut and paste ;)
Do you have a link to a howto for building those packages?
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Re: x won't start as a particular user. for other users works fine. what file is causing it? how to troubleshoot?
Kevin Ross wrote: From: Mitchell Laks [mailto:ml...@post.harvard.edu] Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 2:48 PM On 16:06 Tue 25 Aug , Ron Johnson wrote: On 2009-08-25 15:58, Mitchell Laks wrote: On 19:20 Mon 24 Aug , Ron Johnson wrote: startx or gdm? i shut off gdm and am working with startx at the command line. :) Good for you! Have you tried startx -- -v? It might not work, but couldn't hurt. i had tried that and it did not work. i was looking for the options of X itself... Is there something in your ~/.xinitrc, ~/.Xsessionrc, or ~/.xserverrc file causing startup to fail? Have you looked for errors in the ~/.xsession-errors file? Okay, c'mon, did you read his original post? I mean, really: I looked for .xinitrc .xsession files .xsession-error files etc. I looked in the /var/log/Xorg.0.log file and no information... :-\ -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Iceweasel 3.5
Charlie Kroeger wrote: So how does one use the latest version of this web browser on Stable ? You could put these sources in your /etc/apt/sources.list and do an #apt-get update deb http://ftp.tiscali.nl/debian/ sid main contrib non-free If you have a GUI type package manager like smartpm it will show a list of all the available versions of Ice Weasel after the update. If not that then #apt-cache showpkg package will give a lot of verbose information regarding versions dependencies and anything with the word iceweasel in it including the versions in your package cache As a last resort if you have problems with the dependencies running lenny you can always go to /etc/apt/apt.conf and put in the line: APT::Default-Release sid; If there were an award for informative responses, you would win for this :) -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Emails [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
lee wrote: On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 10:31:51AM -0500, Michael Ekstrand wrote: * The Debian user community has a high population of jerks, don't ask them for help. Yes, typical disclaimers are nonsensical on public lists. BUT, taking the poster to task so aggressively and for so long when it is likely entirely outside his or her control is entirely inappropriate. It is entirely inappropriate to post the disclaimer on the list. It is also entirely inappropriate for the poster not to say anything to that and not even to say thanks for your answers. He or she also didn't respond to a mail I sent her/him with some answer and a suggestion to remove the disclaimer. And yes, there are too many jerks on this list. If so many people are treating you with some disdain, you might want to take a good long look at your own behaviour. Personally, I hit 'ignore thread' on everything you post, because every single thread that you participate in ends in a repetitive and uninteresting argument. -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Help with ndiswrapper and Broadcom wireless
Florian Kulzer wrote: On Tue, Jul 07, 2009 at 14:28:13 -0400, JoeHill wrote: Florian Kulzer wrote: On Tue, Jul 07, 2009 at 11:29:50 -0400, JoeHill wrote: JoeHill wrote: Florian Kulzer wrote: Try modprobe -v wl as root; that should either give you wlan0 or some error messages that tell us what goes wrong. (I suspect that you might need a newer kernel.) [...] Okay, now it's hosed again. When I boot up and do 'modprobe -v wl', I get no 'rmmod' lines, as above, it's totally different: tablet:/home/lajolla# modprobe -v wl WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-kernel-nkc, it will be ignored in a future release. insmod /lib/modules/2.6.26-2-686/kernel/net/ieee80211/ieee80211_crypt.ko install /sbin/modprobe -qr b43 ssb; /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install wl WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-kernel-nkc, it will be ignored in a future release. insmod /lib/modules/2.6.26-2-686/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/wl.ko And, of course, I get no wireless :-( [...] Try what I suggested earlier regarding rf switch, BIOS settings and configuration under Windows. If nothing else helps, install a newer kernel and rebuild the wl module. I've been through all the BIOS options, nothing in there about wireless as far as I can tell. The switch for the wireless has no effect, other than to cause the device to disappear from lsusb. Since you keep ignoring my questions about this device under Windows, I will assume that you do not have Windows installed on this laptop. This is the weird thing: I did a reinstall of the OS yesterday to get 'clean slate' (hopefully), and when I first booted up the new install I did lspci and lsusb. lspci showed the Broadcom device as I originally posted, lsusb showed the HP integrated wireless device. I do not understand why you are not posting the relevant part of the lspci -knn output; I have asked for it repeatedly. I would like to try to install a newer kernel, but I'm having trouble finding where to get that. I did apt-cache search linux-image to see what was available, but nothing newer than mine was listed. Right now I have 2.6.26-2-686 #1 SMP. If you run Squeeze then it should be possible to install a 2.6.30 kernel from Sid; backports.org has 2.6.30 kernel images for Lenny. Okay, I upgraded the kernel to 2.6.30 and rebuilt the driver with module-assistant. tablet:/home/lajolla# lspci -knn | grep -iEA2 'broadcom|bcm|wireless|wifi' tablet:/home/lajolla# modprobe -v wl WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-kernel-nkc, it will be ignored in a future release. insmod /lib/modules/2.6.30-1-686/kernel/net/wireless/lib80211.ko install /sbin/modprobe -qr b43 ssb; /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install wl WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-kernel-nkc, it will be ignored in a future release. insmod /lib/modules/2.6.30-1-686/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/wl.ko It's just not there anymore. I'm not sure how to proceed from here. -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Upgrade to Testing Reading package lists... Error!
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Re: Help with ndiswrapper and Broadcom wireless
Florian Kulzer wrote: On Wed, Jul 08, 2009 at 10:47:03 -0400, JoeHill wrote: [...] Okay, I upgraded the kernel to 2.6.30 and rebuilt the driver with module-assistant. tablet:/home/lajolla# lspci -knn | grep -iEA2 'broadcom|bcm|wireless|wifi' tablet:/home/lajolla# modprobe -v wl WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-kernel-nkc, it will be ignored in a future release. insmod /lib/modules/2.6.30-1-686/kernel/net/wireless/lib80211.ko install /sbin/modprobe -qr b43 ssb; /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install wl WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-kernel-nkc, it will be ignored in a future release. insmod /lib/modules/2.6.30-1-686/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/wl.ko It's just not there anymore. I'm not sure how to proceed from here. Your problem might be due to broken hardware, see Rob Owens's message earlier in this thread: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2009/07/msg00478.html If you cannot get a warranty replacement then you should consider buying a cheap and well-supported USB or PCMCIA wireless device, as Rob also suggested; this approach is often preferable to endless fighting with flaky built-in hardware. Good point. I'm certainly not in any hurry to continue this masochistic exercise. I definitely appreciate your patience. I found this: http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/ and this: http://www.pccanada.com/viewitem.asp?id=8942 and I've found a couple of people who can confirm that they are using the rt73 driver without hassle. If anyone else is looking for Linux compatible wireless devices, this was a useful link for me: http://linux-wless.passys.nl/query_hostif.php?hostif=USB (The possibility of hardware failure was the main reason why I kept nagging about trying the device under Windows, to have an independent test under an OS that is officially supported by the manufacturer.) If only there were some sort of Windows 'live cd' for testing purposes. Thanks very much for all your help :) -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Wireless not loaded at boot
I've got wireless working on a notebook (after much assistance) with a Broadcom driver. However, the module is not loaded a boot, and so I have to do a 'modprobe wl' to get it working. Before anyone posts a 'lmgtfy', I am looking at the Debian Wiki right now for articles about how to load kernel modules at boot. However, I've had this friend's notebook for a week and a half now...so, you know ;) Thanks! -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Wireless not loaded at boot
Andrei Popescu wrote: On Tue,07.Jul.09, 02:00:59, JoeHill wrote: I've got wireless working on a notebook (after much assistance) with a Broadcom driver. However, the module is not loaded a boot, and so I have to do a 'modprobe wl' to get it working. $ cat /etc/modules I tried adding 'wl' as the comments suggest, and now it shows up in lsmod, but the situation is much worse. Now when I do iwconfig, the interface is not there. -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Wireless not loaded at boot
Andrei Popescu wrote: On Tue,07.Jul.09, 02:00:59, JoeHill wrote: I've got wireless working on a notebook (after much assistance) with a Broadcom driver. However, the module is not loaded a boot, and so I have to do a 'modprobe wl' to get it working. $ cat /etc/modules Well, now I've lost wireless again. I have rebooted without the line I added in modules, and I can modprobe the driver as before, but now I get no eth1 as before. It's broken again. Great. -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Help with ndiswrapper and Broadcom wireless
JoeHill wrote: Florian Kulzer wrote: Try modprobe -v wl as root; that should either give you wlan0 or some error messages that tell us what goes wrong. (I suspect that you might need a newer kernel.) It worked! Well, I still am not on wireless, because I use WPA on my router and I'm not sure how to get that configured yet on the notebook, but at least this time when I repeated your instructions, I got this: tablet:/home/lajolla# modprobe -v wl insmod /lib/modules/2.6.26-2-686/kernel/net/ieee80211/ieee80211_crypt.ko install /sbin/modprobe -qr b43 ssb; /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install wl rmmod /lib/modules/2.6.26-2-686/kernel/drivers/ssb/ssb.ko rmmod /lib/modules/2.6.26-2-686/kernel/drivers/pcmcia/pcmcia.ko rmmod /lib/modules/2.6.26-2-686/kernel/drivers/base/firmware_class.ko rmmod /lib/modules/2.6.26-2-686/kernel/drivers/pcmcia/pcmcia_core.ko insmod /lib/modules/2.6.26-2-686/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/wl.ko tablet:/home/lajolla# iwconfig lono wireless extensions. eth0 no wireless extensions. eth1 IEEE 802.11abgn ESSID: Nickname: Mode:Managed Frequency:2.412 GHz Access Point: Not-Associated Bit Rate:14 Mb/s Tx-Power:32 dBm Retry min limit:7 RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off Power Managementmode:All packets received Link Quality=5/5 Signal level=0 dBm Noise level=0 dBm Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0 Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:0 Missed beacon:0 Okay, now it's hosed again. When I boot up and do 'modprobe -v wl', I get no 'rmmod' lines, as above, it's totally different: tablet:/home/lajolla# modprobe -v wl WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-kernel-nkc, it will be ignored in a future release. insmod /lib/modules/2.6.26-2-686/kernel/net/ieee80211/ieee80211_crypt.ko install /sbin/modprobe -qr b43 ssb; /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install wl WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-kernel-nkc, it will be ignored in a future release. insmod /lib/modules/2.6.26-2-686/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/wl.ko And, of course, I get no wireless :-( Help! -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Help with ndiswrapper and Broadcom wireless
Florian Kulzer wrote: On Tue, Jul 07, 2009 at 11:29:50 -0400, JoeHill wrote: JoeHill wrote: Florian Kulzer wrote: Try modprobe -v wl as root; that should either give you wlan0 or some error messages that tell us what goes wrong. (I suspect that you might need a newer kernel.) It worked! Well, I still am not on wireless, because I use WPA on my router and I'm not sure how to get that configured yet on the notebook, but at least this time when I repeated your instructions, I got this: tablet:/home/lajolla# modprobe -v wl insmod /lib/modules/2.6.26-2-686/kernel/net/ieee80211/ieee80211_crypt.ko install /sbin/modprobe -qr b43 ssb; /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install wl rmmod /lib/modules/2.6.26-2-686/kernel/drivers/ssb/ssb.ko rmmod /lib/modules/2.6.26-2-686/kernel/drivers/pcmcia/pcmcia.ko rmmod /lib/modules/2.6.26-2-686/kernel/drivers/base/firmware_class.ko rmmod /lib/modules/2.6.26-2-686/kernel/drivers/pcmcia/pcmcia_core.ko insmod /lib/modules/2.6.26-2-686/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/wl.ko tablet:/home/lajolla# iwconfig lono wireless extensions. eth0 no wireless extensions. eth1 IEEE 802.11abgn ESSID: Nickname: Mode:Managed Frequency:2.412 GHz Access Point: Not-Associated Bit Rate:14 Mb/s Tx-Power:32 dBm Retry min limit:7 RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off Power Managementmode:All packets received Link Quality=5/5 Signal level=0 dBm Noise level=0 dBm Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0 Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:0 Missed beacon:0 Okay, now it's hosed again. When I boot up and do 'modprobe -v wl', I get no 'rmmod' lines, as above, it's totally different: tablet:/home/lajolla# modprobe -v wl WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-kernel-nkc, it will be ignored in a future release. insmod /lib/modules/2.6.26-2-686/kernel/net/ieee80211/ieee80211_crypt.ko install /sbin/modprobe -qr b43 ssb; /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install wl WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-kernel-nkc, it will be ignored in a future release. insmod /lib/modules/2.6.26-2-686/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/wl.ko And, of course, I get no wireless :-( It seems that your system still does not recognize the presence of the Broadcom device reliably. You have to check the lspci output before anything else. (The rmmod lines for the successful attempts show that the system had already loaded another driver for the device, which only happens if it is recognized.) Help! Try what I suggested earlier regarding rf switch, BIOS settings and configuration under Windows. If nothing else helps, install a newer kernel and rebuild the wl module. I've been through all the BIOS options, nothing in there about wireless as far as I can tell. The switch for the wireless has no effect, other than to cause the device to disappear from lsusb. This is the weird thing: I did a reinstall of the OS yesterday to get 'clean slate' (hopefully), and when I first booted up the new install I did lspci and lsusb. lspci showed the Broadcom device as I originally posted, lsusb showed the HP integrated wireless device. I would like to try to install a newer kernel, but I'm having trouble finding where to get that. I did apt-cache search linux-image to see what was available, but nothing newer than mine was listed. Right now I have 2.6.26-2-686 #1 SMP. Thanks again. -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Help with ndiswrapper and Broadcom wireless
Florian Kulzer wrote: On Tue, Jul 07, 2009 at 14:28:13 -0400, JoeHill wrote: Florian Kulzer wrote: On Tue, Jul 07, 2009 at 11:29:50 -0400, JoeHill wrote: JoeHill wrote: Florian Kulzer wrote: Try modprobe -v wl as root; that should either give you wlan0 or some error messages that tell us what goes wrong. (I suspect that you might need a newer kernel.) [...] Okay, now it's hosed again. When I boot up and do 'modprobe -v wl', I get no 'rmmod' lines, as above, it's totally different: tablet:/home/lajolla# modprobe -v wl WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-kernel-nkc, it will be ignored in a future release. insmod /lib/modules/2.6.26-2-686/kernel/net/ieee80211/ieee80211_crypt.ko install /sbin/modprobe -qr b43 ssb; /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install wl WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-kernel-nkc, it will be ignored in a future release. insmod /lib/modules/2.6.26-2-686/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/wl.ko And, of course, I get no wireless :-( [...] Try what I suggested earlier regarding rf switch, BIOS settings and configuration under Windows. If nothing else helps, install a newer kernel and rebuild the wl module. I've been through all the BIOS options, nothing in there about wireless as far as I can tell. The switch for the wireless has no effect, other than to cause the device to disappear from lsusb. Since you keep ignoring my questions about this device under Windows, I will assume that you do not have Windows installed on this laptop. Sorry about that, but yes, you're right. I don't even know where I would get Windows from anymore. This is the weird thing: I did a reinstall of the OS yesterday to get 'clean slate' (hopefully), and when I first booted up the new install I did lspci and lsusb. lspci showed the Broadcom device as I originally posted, lsusb showed the HP integrated wireless device. I do not understand why you are not posting the relevant part of the lspci -knn output; I have asked for it repeatedly. Okay, but the device is gone again. There is no output for it in lspci right now: tablet:/home/lajolla# lspci -knn | grep -iEA2 'broadcom|bcm|wireless|wifi' tablet:/home/lajolla# I would like to try to install a newer kernel, but I'm having trouble finding where to get that. I did apt-cache search linux-image to see what was available, but nothing newer than mine was listed. Right now I have 2.6.26-2-686 #1 SMP. If you run Squeeze then it should be possible to install a 2.6.30 kernel from Sid; backports.org has 2.6.30 kernel images for Lenny. I'm going to give that a shot, then and I'll report back. Thanks again for all of your assistance. -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Help with ndiswrapper and Broadcom wireless
Florian Kulzer wrote: Try modprobe -v wl as root; that should either give you wlan0 or some error messages that tell us what goes wrong. (I suspect that you might need a newer kernel.) It worked! Well, I still am not on wireless, because I use WPA on my router and I'm not sure how to get that configured yet on the notebook, but at least this time when I repeated your instructions, I got this: tablet:/home/lajolla# modprobe -v wl insmod /lib/modules/2.6.26-2-686/kernel/net/ieee80211/ieee80211_crypt.ko install /sbin/modprobe -qr b43 ssb; /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install wl rmmod /lib/modules/2.6.26-2-686/kernel/drivers/ssb/ssb.ko rmmod /lib/modules/2.6.26-2-686/kernel/drivers/pcmcia/pcmcia.ko rmmod /lib/modules/2.6.26-2-686/kernel/drivers/base/firmware_class.ko rmmod /lib/modules/2.6.26-2-686/kernel/drivers/pcmcia/pcmcia_core.ko insmod /lib/modules/2.6.26-2-686/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/wl.ko tablet:/home/lajolla# iwconfig lono wireless extensions. eth0 no wireless extensions. eth1 IEEE 802.11abgn ESSID: Nickname: Mode:Managed Frequency:2.412 GHz Access Point: Not-Associated Bit Rate:14 Mb/s Tx-Power:32 dBm Retry min limit:7 RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off Power Managementmode:All packets received Link Quality=5/5 Signal level=0 dBm Noise level=0 dBm Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0 Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:0 Missed beacon:0 I learned quite a bit from this exercise, in particular that I will never buy a machine with a Broadcom chip ;) Many, many thanks for all your time. -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Help with ndiswrapper and Broadcom wireless
Florian Kulzer wrote: On Sat, Jul 04, 2009 at 16:22:40 -0400, JoeHill wrote: Florian Kulzer wrote: Try modprobe -v wl as root; that should either give you wlan0 or some error messages that tell us what goes wrong. (I suspect that you might need a newer kernel.) Tried again after a reboot: tablet:/home/lajolla# modprobe -v wl WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-kernel-nkc, it will be ignored in a future release. insmod /lib/modules/2.6.26-2-686/kernel/net/ieee80211/ieee80211_crypt.ko install /sbin/modprobe -qr b43 ssb; /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install wl WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-kernel-nkc, it will be ignored in a future release. insmod /lib/modules/2.6.26-2-686/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/wl.ko tablet:/home/lajolla# lsmod | grep -E 'bcm|b43|wl|ndis' wl 1267176 0 ieee80211_crypt 5124 1 wl but still: tablet:/home/lajolla# iwconfig lono wireless extensions. eth0 no wireless extensions. tablet:/home/lajolla# ifconfig wlan0 up wlan0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device Note: There is no point in trying to ifup the device as long as it is not listed by iwconfig. Heh, okay. So, your kernel does load the module without obvious problems, but no new network device becomes available. This means that the kernel does not recognize your hardware as supported by this module (or by any other driver that it knows). Is that maybe remedied by a newer kernel? Please post the output of this: lspci -knn | grep -iEA2 'broadcom|bcm|wireless|wifi' No output :-( -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Help with ndiswrapper and Broadcom wireless
Florian Kulzer wrote: On Sun, Jul 05, 2009 at 10:35:38 -0400, JoeHill wrote: Florian Kulzer wrote: On Sat, Jul 04, 2009 at 16:22:40 -0400, JoeHill wrote: Florian Kulzer wrote: Try modprobe -v wl as root; that should either give you wlan0 or some error messages that tell us what goes wrong. (I suspect that you might need a newer kernel.) Tried again after a reboot: tablet:/home/lajolla# modprobe -v wl WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-kernel-nkc, it will be ignored in a future release. insmod /lib/modules/2.6.26-2-686/kernel/net/ieee80211/ieee80211_crypt.ko install /sbin/modprobe -qr b43 ssb; /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install wl WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-kernel-nkc, it will be ignored in a future release. insmod /lib/modules/2.6.26-2-686/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/wl.ko tablet:/home/lajolla# lsmod | grep -E 'bcm|b43|wl|ndis' wl 1267176 0 ieee80211_crypt 5124 1 wl but still: tablet:/home/lajolla# iwconfig lono wireless extensions. eth0 no wireless extensions. [...] Please post the output of this: lspci -knn | grep -iEA2 'broadcom|bcm|wireless|wifi' No output :-( What about this: lspci -nn | grep -Ei 'net|lan|14e4|4328' tablet:/home/lajolla# lspci -nn | grep -Ei 'net|lan|14e4|4328' 00:14.0 Bridge [0680]: nVidia Corporation MCP51 Ethernet Controller [10de:0269] (rev a3) 00:18.3 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Miscellaneous Control [1022:1103] -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Help with ndiswrapper and Broadcom wireless
Florian Kulzer wrote: On Sun, Jul 05, 2009 at 11:55:06 -0400, JoeHill wrote: Florian Kulzer wrote: Earlier, JoeHill wrote: Florian Kulzer wrote: [...] Please post the output of this: lspci -knn | grep -iEA2 'broadcom|bcm|wireless|wifi' No output :-( What about this: lspci -nn | grep -Ei 'net|lan|14e4|4328' tablet:/home/lajolla# lspci -nn | grep -Ei 'net|lan|14e4|4328' 00:14.0 Bridge [0680]: nVidia Corporation MCP51 Ethernet Controller [10de:0269] (rev a3) 00:18.3 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Miscellaneous Control [1022:1103] What, then, makes you think that you have a Broadcom Corporation BCM4328 802.11a/b/g/n (rev 03) wireless adapter? Is there a PCMCIA card with this chipset? That's weird. I swear when I started this whole thing, I ran 'lspci', and got that output. I mean, really, where else could I have gotten that? It was pasted from a terminal, and I don't have any other machines in here with wireless :-) On the front of the notebook, there a label which says 'Broadcom Wireless', and underneath that is an antenna symbol, the word 'Wireless', and a switch to turn the wireless on or off. I of course have tried all this with the indicator in both positions. However, now when I run lsusb, I get this: Bus 002 Device 003: ID 03f0:171d Hewlett-Packard Wireless (Bluetooth + WLAN) Interface [Integrated Module] Could I have changed something when I installed the Windows driver from HP with ndiswrapper? I've since removed the driver _and_ ndiswrapper. -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Help with ndiswrapper and Broadcom wireless
Florian Kulzer wrote: On Fri, Jul 03, 2009 at 12:12:06 +0200, Klistvud wrote: [...] Another suggestion: the proprietary driver downloadable from broadcom's website works exceedingly well for BCM4321, so chances are it would work with your hardware as well. The driver comes with exhaustive instructions for compiling, so it is relatively hassle-free to install. But, needless to say, it does not follow the Debian free software guidelines... and is therefore not supported by Debian in any way, I think. The Broadcom STA driver (a.k.a. wl) is included in Squeeze and Sid in the non-free section; it can be built with module-assistant: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2009/06/msg00439.html Do I need to remove ndiswrapper first, or is it enough to simply unload the Windows driver? Many thanks! -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Help with ndiswrapper and Broadcom wireless
Florian Kulzer wrote: On Fri, Jul 03, 2009 at 12:12:06 +0200, Klistvud wrote: [...] Another suggestion: the proprietary driver downloadable from broadcom's website works exceedingly well for BCM4321, so chances are it would work with your hardware as well. The driver comes with exhaustive instructions for compiling, so it is relatively hassle-free to install. But, needless to say, it does not follow the Debian free software guidelines... and is therefore not supported by Debian in any way, I think. The Broadcom STA driver (a.k.a. wl) is included in Squeeze and Sid in the non-free section; it can be built with module-assistant: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2009/06/msg00439.html Okay, went ahead with this and now I'm a bit further along. Wicd netork manager will now start, though it shows 'no wireless networks found'. Also, when I look at the preferences dialogue, there is no entry for 'wireless interface'. Gnome network manager also shows no wireless interface. Also: tablet:/home/lajolla# iwconfig lono wireless extensions. eth0 no wireless extensions. tablet:/home/lajolla# ifconfig wlan0 up wlan0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Help with ndiswrapper and Broadcom wireless
Thierry Chatelet wrote: On Thursday 02 July 2009 05:09:51 JoeHill wrote: I first tried to get wireless working following this page on the Debian Wiki: http://wiki.debian.org/bcm43xx but then found out that my particular device was not supported by that driver. I then tried the tutorial on this page: http://wiki.debian.org/NdisWrapper I have a Broadcom Corporation BCM4328 802.11a/b/g/n (rev 03), so I got the driver from HP, the vendor of this notebook. It is installed, and shows up in ndisgtk, but shows 'Hardware present: no'. I installed wicd to see if that would at least let me see more of what was going on, but although it says it's running, when I try to access the wicd network manager, nothing opens. Gnome network manager shows no wireless connection. Any tips really greatly appreciated. -- J A Linux driver for the Broadcom bcm43xx wireless chips. Broadcom never released details about these chips. So this driver is based upon reverse engineered specifications. This driver was included into the Linux kernel since 2.6.17-rc2. Another branch of this driver, based on the Devicescape 802.11 Stack, which should be the future in Linux wireless support and which supports advanced capabilities (namely, full WPA support), can be found in the wireless-dev tree: git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/linville/wireless-dev.git I would like to try this, but I am completely unfamiliar with how to approach this. Is this similar to subversion? How to I retrieve this code? The bcm43xx-fwcutter tool (required - see documentation for further info) can install with aptitude. So remove ndiswrapper and try again. Give some detail from ifconfig, iwconfig.. I already have the fwcutter tool installed from previous attempts, and I've removed ndiswrapper. ifconfig and iwconfig both show no wireless devices. Many thanks! -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Help with ndiswrapper and Broadcom wireless
Klistvud wrote: Dne, 02. 07. 2009 06:22:48 je Thierry Chatelet napisal(a): On Thursday 02 July 2009 05:09:51 JoeHill wrote: I first tried to get wireless working following this page on the Debian Wiki: http://wiki.debian.org/bcm43xx but then found out that my particular device was not supported by that driver. I then tried the tutorial on this page: http://wiki.debian.org/NdisWrapper I have a Broadcom Corporation BCM4328 802.11a/b/g/n (rev 03), so I got the driver from HP, the vendor of this notebook. It is installed, and shows up in ndisgtk, but shows 'Hardware present: no'. I installed wicd to see if that would at least let me see more of what was going on, but although it says it's running, when I try to access the wicd network manager, nothing opens. Gnome network manager shows no wireless connection. Any tips really greatly appreciated. -- J A Linux driver for the Broadcom bcm43xx wireless chips. Broadcom never released details about these chips. So this driver is based upon reverse engineered specifications. This driver was included into the Linux kernel since 2.6.17-rc2. Another branch of this driver, based on the Devicescape 802.11 Stack, which should be the future in Linux wireless support and which supports advanced capabilities (namely, full WPA support), can be found in the wireless-dev tree: git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/linville/wireless- dev.git The bcm43xx-fwcutter tool (required - see documentation for further info) can install with aptitude. So remove ndiswrapper and try again. Give some detail from ifconfig, iwconfig.. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Another suggestion: the proprietary driver downloadable from broadcom's website works exceedingly well for BCM4321, so chances are it would work with your hardware as well. The driver comes with exhaustive instructions for compiling, so it is relatively hassle-free to install. But, needless to say, it does not follow the Debian free software guidelines... and is therefore not supported by Debian in any way, I thik. I am having a lot of trouble locating the driver for this device on the broadcom site. The only network drivers I see so far are for ethernet NIC's. -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Help with ndiswrapper and Broadcom wireless
Florian Kulzer wrote:
On Sat, Jul 04, 2009 at 13:46:08 -0400, JoeHill wrote:
Florian Kulzer wrote:
[...]
The Broadcom STA driver (a.k.a. wl) is included in Squeeze and Sid in
the non-free section; it can be built with module-assistant:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2009/06/msg00439.html
Okay, went ahead with this and now I'm a bit further along. Wicd netork
manager will now start, though it shows 'no wireless networks found'. Also,
when I look at the preferences dialogue, there is no entry for 'wireless
interface'.
Gnome network manager also shows no wireless interface.
Also:
tablet:/home/lajolla# iwconfig
lono wireless extensions.
eth0 no wireless extensions.
tablet:/home/lajolla# ifconfig wlan0 up
wlan0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
I would like to see the output of these three commands:
uname -a
dpkg -l broadcom-\* ndiswrapper-\* | awk '/^[^D|+]/{print $1,$2,$3}'
lsmod | grep -E 'bcm|b43|wl|ndis'
tablet:/home/lajolla# uname -a
Linux tablet 2.6.26-2-686 #1 SMP Sun Jun 21 04:57:38 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
tablet:/home/lajolla# dpkg -l broadcom-\* ndiswrapper-\* | awk '/^[^D|+]/{print
$1,$2,$3}'
ii broadcom-sta-common 5.10.91.9-1
un broadcom-sta-modules none
ii broadcom-sta-modules-2.6.26-2-686 5.10.91.9-1+2.6.26-17
ii broadcom-sta-source 5.10.91.9-1
pn ndiswrapper-common none
rc ndiswrapper-modules-2.6.26-2-686 1.54-2+2.6.26-17
ii ndiswrapper-source 1.54-2
un ndiswrapper-utils none
pn ndiswrapper-utils-1.9 none
tablet:/home/lajolla# lsmod | grep -E 'bcm|b43|wl|ndis'
tablet:/home/lajolla#
I'm thinking that last command should have had _some_ output...
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Re: Help with ndiswrapper and Broadcom wireless
Florian Kulzer wrote:
On Sat, Jul 04, 2009 at 14:30:56 -0400, JoeHill wrote:
Florian Kulzer wrote:
On Sat, Jul 04, 2009 at 13:46:08 -0400, JoeHill wrote:
Florian Kulzer wrote:
[...]
The Broadcom STA driver (a.k.a. wl) is included in Squeeze and Sid
in the non-free section; it can be built with module-assistant:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2009/06/msg00439.html
[...]
tablet:/home/lajolla# iwconfig
lono wireless extensions.
eth0 no wireless extensions.
tablet:/home/lajolla# ifconfig wlan0 up
wlan0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[...]
tablet:/home/lajolla# uname -a
Linux tablet 2.6.26-2-686 #1 SMP Sun Jun 21 04:57:38 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
tablet:/home/lajolla# dpkg -l broadcom-\* ndiswrapper-\* | awk
'/^[^D|+]/{print $1,$2,$3}'
ii broadcom-sta-common 5.10.91.9-1
un broadcom-sta-modules none
ii broadcom-sta-modules-2.6.26-2-686 5.10.91.9-1+2.6.26-17
ii broadcom-sta-source 5.10.91.9-1
pn ndiswrapper-common none
rc ndiswrapper-modules-2.6.26-2-686 1.54-2+2.6.26-17
ii ndiswrapper-source 1.54-2
un ndiswrapper-utils none
pn ndiswrapper-utils-1.9 none
tablet:/home/lajolla# lsmod | grep -E 'bcm|b43|wl|ndis'
I'm thinking that last command should have had _some_ output...
Try modprobe -v wl as root; that should either give you wlan0 or some
error messages that tell us what goes wrong. (I suspect that you might
need a newer kernel.)
The only output I get from modprobe (every time) is:
WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-kernel-nkc, it
will be ignored in a future release.
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Re: Help with ndiswrapper and Broadcom wireless
Florian Kulzer wrote: Try modprobe -v wl as root; that should either give you wlan0 or some error messages that tell us what goes wrong. (I suspect that you might need a newer kernel.) Tried again after a reboot: tablet:/home/lajolla# modprobe -v wl WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-kernel-nkc, it will be ignored in a future release. insmod /lib/modules/2.6.26-2-686/kernel/net/ieee80211/ieee80211_crypt.ko install /sbin/modprobe -qr b43 ssb; /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install wl WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-kernel-nkc, it will be ignored in a future release. insmod /lib/modules/2.6.26-2-686/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/wl.ko tablet:/home/lajolla# lsmod | grep -E 'bcm|b43|wl|ndis' wl 1267176 0 ieee80211_crypt 5124 1 wl but still: tablet:/home/lajolla# iwconfig lono wireless extensions. eth0 no wireless extensions. tablet:/home/lajolla# ifconfig wlan0 up wlan0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: how do i grep boobies
Tyler MacDonald wrote: Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: ...unless there might still be some women somewhere on Usenet. alias woman locate; talk; date; uptime; gawk; head; clean; sleep And then they wonder why some women find IT a hostile area Seriously, there are female readers of this list. Could we at least pretend that the rest of you think we are human beings, not blow-up toys for men to grope? In other words, please can we lay this rather offensive thread to rest? If a homosexual makes a pass at me or otherwise speaks in a sexual manner, I'm not offended, I'm just not interested. I would have hoped that that the level of bigotry that causes people to be offended by such things, was removed from heterosexual relationships in 20th century as well. I think the common misconception that results in this mistaken offence, is that sexual attraction/desire is dehumanizing. If anything, it promotes humanization. I mean, how would you feel if this thread was about dogs? I don't think she cares if _you're_ offended or not, she's asking nicely if you'll stop because it does bother some people. Your feelings on the issue are totally irrelevant, since you have no experience being constantly treated like an object of someone's infantile desires, in the media, in the workplace, on the bus or subway, _everywhere_. It's called being polite and mature enough to put other people's feelings before your own. Grow the hell up. -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Experimental repo
For apt pinning, if I want to add the experimental repo, do I also need to add the qualifiers for 'non-free', 'restricted', etc.? or is it simply deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian experimental main ? -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Experimental repo
Osamu Aoki wrote: On Sat, Jul 04, 2009 at 08:37:14PM -0400, JoeHill wrote: For apt pinning, if I want to add the experimental repo, do I also need to add the qualifiers for 'non-free', 'restricted', etc.? or is it simply deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian experimental main Check this URL yourself to find how our archives are arranged! http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/experimental/ I only see: [DIR] contrib/05-Apr-2009 13:31 - [DIR] main/ 05-Apr-2009 13:31 - [DIR] non-free/ 05-Apr-2009 13:31 - If you need contents in non-free and contrib, add them. There is no restricted in Debian. You are confused with Ubuntu. That answers my question, thanks! By the way, in experimental we only have * povray in non-free and * bitlbee-skype and libjgrapht-java in contrib. Ah, okay, the Debian Wiki article didn't mention that part. I was hoping to snag the new Iceweasel a little bit ahead of everyone else ;) Quite honestly, if you are asking this question, you may not be ready for experimental. Please read following first: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.en.html That link just generates a huge error dialogue in my browser. BTW, please, please, please, do _not_ reply to me directly. It serves no purpose for _anyone_ _ever_ and is a complete waste and messes up the threading for me. Thanks! -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Experimental repo
JoeHill wrote: Quite honestly, if you are asking this question, you may not be ready for experimental. Please read following first: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.en.html That link just generates a huge error dialogue in my browser. My fault, bad pasting. Cheers! -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
glibc too old to install Flash on Testing?
What? I've definitely never seen this before. I'm running a Testing system myself and Flash works fine (well, to the extent that Flash can ever be said to work 'fine'). On a Testing system I just installed, however, I'm getting an error that: ERROR: Your glibc library is older than 2.3. Please update your glibc library. I've applied all updates since installing the system, so not too sure how I could be out of date at this point. I tried just copying the libflashplayer.so to .mozilla/plugins, but it is still not found by Iceweasel. Any tips? Thanks! -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Nautilus default view is...bad.
Can someone remind me how I get Nautilus to behave like a normal file manager? You know, one that is useful, with a side pane and a toolbar and actual navigation buttons? Thanks! -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Nautilus default view is...bad.
Lachlan wrote: Can someone remind me how I get Nautilus to behave like a normal file manager? You know, one that is useful, with a side pane and a toolbar and actual navigation buttons? Edit - Preferences - Behaviour - Always open in browser windows I swear, that option was not there when I checked a few minutes ago. It just magically appeared now! Honest... ;) Thanks! -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Help with ndiswrapper and Broadcom wireless
I first tried to get wireless working following this page on the Debian Wiki: http://wiki.debian.org/bcm43xx but then found out that my particular device was not supported by that driver. I then tried the tutorial on this page: http://wiki.debian.org/NdisWrapper I have a Broadcom Corporation BCM4328 802.11a/b/g/n (rev 03), so I got the driver from HP, the vendor of this notebook. It is installed, and shows up in ndisgtk, but shows 'Hardware present: no'. I installed wicd to see if that would at least let me see more of what was going on, but although it says it's running, when I try to access the wicd network manager, nothing opens. Gnome network manager shows no wireless connection. Any tips really greatly appreciated. -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
No music playback
This is strange: I can play video files with sound, I can play flash video with sound, but when I try to play a music file (mp3) in either Rhythmbox or Exaile the progress bar does not move and the file will not play. I don't know if this is related, but I have two volume icons in my panel, the one that I added myself and now one in the notification area. They appear the same, but the icon in my panel has the usual config options, whereas the icon in the notification area has a minimal menu with prefs that look like the ones for Pulseaudio. System is Testing/Unstable. -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: No music playback
Daryl Styrk wrote: On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 06:41:46PM -0400, JoeHill wrote: This is strange: I can play video files with sound, I can play flash video with sound, but when I try to play a music file (mp3) in either Rhythmbox or Exaile the progress bar does not move and the file will not play. I don't know if this is related, but I have two volume icons in my panel, the one that I added myself and now one in the notification area. They appear the same, but the icon in my panel has the usual config options, whereas the icon in the notification area has a minimal menu with prefs that look like the ones for Pulseaudio. System is Testing/Unstable. -- J I don't think Debian ships with mp3 playback out of the box. I don't know the exact package that handles it. Amarok pulls everything it needs.. $ aptitude search ~dmp3 | grep ^i i A libflac8- Free Lossless Audio Codec - runtime C libr i A libmad0 - MPEG audio decoder library i A libmp3lame0 - LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder i A libmpcdec3 - Musepack (MPC) format library i A libmtp7 - Media Transfer Protocol (MTP) library i A libmusicbrainz4c2a - Second generation incarnation of the CD In i A libnjb5 - Creative Labs Nomad Jukebox library i A libopenal1 - Software implementation of the OpenAL API i A libsdl-mixer1.2 - mixer library for Simple DirectMedia Layer i A libshout3 - MP3/Ogg Vorbis broadcast streaming library i A libsmpeg0 - SDL MPEG Player Library - shared libraries i A libtag1c2a - TagLib Audio Meta-Data Library i A libtagc0- TagLib Audio Meta-Data Library (C bindings i A libtunepimp5- MusicBrainz tagging library i A libtwolame0 - MPEG Audio Layer 2 encoding library i A libvlc0 - multimedia player and streamer library i A libxine1- the xine video/media player library, meta- i A libxine1-plugins- the xine video/media player library, meta i A python-mutagen - audio metadata editing library i A rhythmbox - music player and organizer for GNOME i A serpentine - An application for creating audio CDs i vlc - multimedia player and streamer i A vlc-nox - multimedia player and streamer (without X Everything works fine here. I assume one of the above will take care of everything. I'm pretty sure I've got everything I need: joeh...@node1:~$ aptitude search ~dmp3 | grep ^i i audacity- A fast, cross-platform audio editor i A exfalso - audio tag editor for GTK+ i gpodder - A free podcast aggregator written in PyGTK i gstreamer0.10-lame - GStreamer lame plugin i A lame- LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder i A libflac++6 - Free Lossless Audio Codec - C++ runtime li i libflac-dev - Free Lossless Audio Codec - C development i libflac8- Free Lossless Audio Codec - runtime C libr i A libmad0 - MPEG audio decoder library i libmp3lame-dev - LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder i A libmp3lame0 - LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder i libmpcdec3 - Musepack (MPC) format library i A libmpeg3-1 - MPEG streams decoding library i libmpg123-0 - MPEG layer 1/2/3 audio decoder -- runtime i libmtp7 - Media Transfer Protocol (MTP) library i A libmusicbrainz4c2a - Second generation incarnation of the CD In i A libopenal1 - Software implementation of the OpenAL API i A libsdl-mixer1.2 - mixer library for Simple DirectMedia Layer i A libshout3 - MP3/Ogg Vorbis broadcast streaming library i A libsmpeg0 - SDL MPEG Player Library - shared libraries i A libsox-fmt-mp3 - SoX MP3 format library i libtag1-vanilla - TagLib Audio Meta-Data Library (Vanilla fl i A libtag1c2a - TagLib Audio Meta-Data Library i A libtagc0- TagLib Audio Meta-Data Library (C bindings i A libtwolame0 - MPEG Audio Layer 2 encoding library i libvlc2 - multimedia player and streamer library i A libvlccore0 - base library for VLC and its
Re: Gimp and unstable
Alan Chandler wrote: Andrei Popescu wrote: On Sun,14.Jun.09, 11:53:26, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: The libwebkit-1.0-1 package is still available in testing: So, enabling testing in your sources.list should allow installation of gimp without affecting other packages (since you are already running Sid). Adeodato Simó (Debian Release Manager) said in regard to libpoppler3 not being installable in sid [1]: , | Personally I couldn’t care less about installability problems on user’s | machines running unstable: my take is that those machines should have | testing in sources.list, period. ` I am glad that policy is imparted by hearsay :-( Would you rather the policy be dictated by a 'Chief Software Architect' or something? ;) A little bit of anarchy is a Good Thing. Enjoy it while it lasts. -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: What packages work like: DVDFab and / or ConvertXtoDvd under Debian?
StOrM3 wrote: The only thing stopping me from dropping Micro$haft all together is that I use these programs faithfully on a regular basis. I need a good DVD Ripping / Converting application that is graphical based like DVDFab, so I don't have to figure out which switches to use, etc.. from a command line tool. Second, and most importantly is an application very similar if not almost identical in function and ease of use to VSO ConvertX to DVD, also Graphically GUI'd if possible. Try Tovid, DeVeDe or Qdvdauthor for authoring DVD's, they're all available through Synaptic. Nothing will touch ConvertXtoDVD, ie. 'drag and drop, yer done' kinda thing, but none of the three are in any way difficult to figure out. Tovid is either gui or command line, the command line could be as simple as this: tovid -in infile.avi -out outfile makexml outfile.mpg -out dvdname makedvd -burn dvdname Qdvdauthor has a crazy amount of features, but is therefore crazily complicated. Also, I Use quite alot of different apps for programming games, but since I own Garage Games game engine, which does have linux versions, I think I will be okay on that, but what about some easy nice 3D apps similar to Milkshape3D and / or Fragmotion 3D, and how about Wine is it good enough now to run Direct3D applications now? Not sure about those. -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: mp4 video file to mp3 audio file
ronggui wong wrote: Dear all, Thanks for your response. I find that the output is mp2 if I use ffmpeg -i input.mp4 output.mp3. Of course, I can use lame to further convert the mp2 file to mp3. How can I achieve the same mp3 by one command? I tried add the command mentioned by Sjoerd, but it says Unknown encoder 'libmp3lame', what package should I install to make it works? That means your ffmpeg was compiled without libmp3lame. You need to get your ffmpeg from the Debian Multimedia repository here: http://debian-multimedia.org/ -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: mplayer screensaver
steef wrote: Tony Asnicar wrote: how can I disable gnome-screensaver when using mplayer? mplayer -stop-xscreensaver doesn't work :S thanks do: $xscreensaver-demo and shut the screensaver off on the appearing panel. Are gnome-screensaver and xscreensaver the same thing? -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: How do you get iceweasel (or another browser) to save what otherwise the flashplayer plays?
lee wrote: the subject says it all: How do you get iceweasel (or another browser) to save what otherwise the flashplayer plays? Some sites feed the data too slow to watch while it's being fed, so I want to download what's being send instead and save it to a file that I can play later when all the data has arrived. Can this somehow be done with wget, maybe? Try this: http://clive.sourceforge.net/ -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: [OT] Gmail posters! turn off html! (was: Re: How to improve performance on laptop?)
s. keeling wrote: This is a mailing list. The text is all that's needed. Thanks. [html makes your posts ugly and difficult to read.] Okay, I wasn't going to say anything cuz I'm usually so shy (har), but that's a big second from me. gmail, yahoo, all those, please tone it down. Please. And the top-posting. :-D -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: How do you get iceweasel (or another browser) to save what otherwise the flashplayer plays?
s. keeling wrote: JoeHill joeh...@teksavvy.com: lee wrote: the subject says it all: How do you get iceweasel (or another browser) to save what otherwise the flashplayer plays? Try this: http://clive.sourceforge.net/ ITYM: aptitude update aptitude install clive Nag, nag, nag ;) -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: How do you get iceweasel (or another browser) to save what otherwise the flashplayer plays?
lee wrote: On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 07:26:24PM +, s. keeling wrote: JoeHill joeh...@teksavvy.com: lee wrote: the subject says it all: How do you get iceweasel (or another browser) to save what otherwise the flashplayer plays? Try this: http://clive.sourceforge.net/ ITYM: aptitude update aptitude install clive Thanks, I'll try that. Maybe it even helps against the spying ... Isn't there something that can convert the data as it's recieved so that it can be viewed with another player? Their spying is outrageous. Spying? You could probably rig up some complicated script that would download and convert web content on the fly. When you do, you should let us know, there would be a huge audience for something so sweet :-) In the meantime, ffmpeg will convert anything to anything else. If you are not as comfortable on the command line, you could try a utility like Handbrake. -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: How do you get iceweasel (or another browser) to save what otherwise the flashplayer plays?
lee wrote: On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 06:10:58PM +0100, thveillon.debian wrote: If you tweak you flashplayer not to cache content locally, just tweak it back using the setting panel from Adobe there : http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/flashplayer/help/settings_manager07.html the image in the upper right part of the page is a setting panel, what you set there is set locally on your computer in ~/.macromedia/. That is interesting, I haven't given them permission to access that information. How do I protect myself against that kind of spying? Never use the Internet? -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: KDE is now broken (Fwd: Heads-up: KDE4 hitting testing tonight (UTC) )
Brendan wrote: Where do you get a good case for $20? Shop around a bit and you'll find that useable ones start at about $250, and good ones cost more --- if you can find one at all. 250? Is this a gold case? Nah, Adamantium ;) -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Debian Linux
Daryl Styrk wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:05:51PM +0100, Martyn Dowling wrote: Please could you let me know if Debian Linix is compatible with a HP Proliant DL360 G5 server? I can resist. http://tinyurl.com/ort4zu Okay, that is just too cool. :) -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: KDE is now broken (Fwd: Heads-up: KDE4 hitting testing tonight (UTC) )
lee wrote: There seems to be too much windoze thinking entering Debian: Hide everything from the users, take control of their computers away from them, make things unfixable --- and the next step is to provide them with only crappy software. I'm beginning to become more and more unhappy with Debian. The quality has gone down quite a bit already. If they keep going this way, we'll all be using windoze in about 10 years. Ha! I swear, I think I remember someone saying this before. I think it was... about ten years ago ;) Man, if I had a dollar... -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: mass conversion from ogg to mp3
ZephyrQ wrote: I have a large number of music files (17 gig worth...yes, for all prying eyes they are legal...) that I find I need to convert from .ogg to .mp3. Not that I want to...but between a teenager with an iphone and being saddled with cell phone that won't play .ogg...well, you get the picture. What is the best way to do this? I would prefer a CLI option that I can run in the background, but I want to save as much sound quality as I can with the transfer... The _first hit_ when I googled 'convert ogg to mp3 linux command line': http://liquidat.wordpress.com/2007/12/03/short-tip-convert-ogg-file-to-mp3/ There are probably a kajillion others :-) -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: CompizConfig Settings Manager - controls not working in Squeeze
Tomek Kruszona wrote: Hello! I have a problem with CompizConfig Manager. It starts ok, then I can enable or disable plugins, but when I click on plugin button to configure options of this plugin nothing happens. Last lines of $strace fusion-icon Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.5/ccm/Pages.py, line 1302, in ShowPlugin pluginPage = PluginPage(plugin) File /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.5/ccm/Pages.py, line 125, in __init__ sortedGroups = sorted(plugin.Groups.items(), key=GroupIndexKeyFunc) File /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.5/ccm/Utils.py, line 374, in GroupIndexKeyFunc return item[1][0] KeyError: 0 Is this python issue or maybe FusionIcon is broken? ii compiz-fusion-plugins-extra 0.8.2-3 ii compiz-fusion-plugins-main 0.8.2-3 ii compiz-fusion-plugins-unsupported0.8.2-1 ii fusion-icon 0.1.0-2 ii libcompizconfig0 0.7.6-1 My system is Debian Squeeze. I'm on Testing/Unstable mixed and I'm getting the same thing. I think our shared problem might be python related, because I'm getting similar issues in other apps, including, ironically, Reportbug. I tried to use that to report this bug with Compiz last night, and Reportbug crashed out with a python error. Also, I upgraded my Compiz packages to unstable, and the problem has not been solved. -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: problem with amule
javier wrote: Hello. I have a problem with amule. When I run amule on the console, the output is: --- jav...@debian:~$ amule Violación de segmento jav...@debian:~$ --- Translation: Violación de segmento = segmentation fault ( violation ) ??? I use debian unstable. Linux debian 2.6.29-2-686 #1 SMP Sun May 17 17:56:29 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux Greetings. Thanks for your help. You might be seeing this: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=525184 What version is your amule? -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: What is the preferred way to install packages from testing/unstable in stable?
Aniruddha wrote: I would like to install the latest version swfdec-mozilla (because it offers autoplay). I intent to track stable as closely as possible. As far I can tell there are four possibilities to achieve this: 1) Temporary enable testing/unstable repositories and install the program 2) Download *.deb from packages.debian org 3) Use apt-pinning 4) Compile from source, this requires option 1 to be enabled. I use apt-pinning and it works really well. I followed the Debian apt-pinning howto and now run a mix of Testing and Unstable. http://wiki.debian.org/AptPinning -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: What is the preferred way to install packages from testing/unstable in stable?
Aniruddha wrote: On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 4:38 PM, JoeHill joeh...@teksavvy.com wrote: Aniruddha wrote: I would like to install the latest version swfdec-mozilla (because it offers autoplay). I intent to track stable as closely as possible. As far I can tell there are four possibilities to achieve this: 1) Temporary enable testing/unstable repositories and install the program 2) Download *.deb from packages.debian org 3) Use apt-pinning 4) Compile from source, this requires option 1 to be enabled. I use apt-pinning and it works really well. I followed the Debian apt-pinning howto and now run a mix of Testing and Unstable. http://wiki.debian.org/AptPinning -- Thanks for the tip. Are there any downsides to be expected from this method? e.g. accidentally pulling in dependencies for lots of packages turning my 'stable' into 'testing'. Well, there's no 'accidental' about anything ;) You just have to pay attention when you install something to see what changes it's making to your system. Aptitude is not going to surprise you unless you are perhaps asleep... :-\ Is this a better option then temporary enabling testing/unstable repositories or downloading the debs from the debian.packages.org? And if so why? I don't know much about Debian, but I know this is a really really bad idea. Aptitude is an incredibly intelligent system for managing dependencies, let it do it's job and don't fsck with it. I'm really curious to find the best way to run stable while installing an occasional testing/unstable package. :) Pinning is the best way to go for this. This way, Aptitude can keep things nice and tidy for you. You will not be impervious to bugs, but you will be far better off than trying to keep track of things yourself. -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: install proprietary nvidia driver without xorg.conf?
Michael M. Moore wrote: I thought I'd try the proprietary nvidia driver (currently using 'nv'), so I've been reading through the how-to on the wiki here: http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers I'm a little concerned, though, that it might be out-of-date (for one, because it keeps talking about Etch), especially given the changes in xorg. Specifically, step 3: http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#ConfigureXtousethenvidiadriver It says for Lenny you have to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf to load glx module and remove dri or GLCore modules, under the Module section; and that you need to change the driver (from nv to nvidia) under the Device section. My xorg.conf has no module section and the Device section is only: Section Device Identifier Configured Video Device EndSection I thought HAL had taken over some of the functions formerly handled in xorg.conf, but there's no mention of that on the wiki doc. So what exactly is the procedure for installing the proprietary driver now? For me, on Testing, it was 'aptitude install nvidia-glx'. That was it. Oh, wait, maybe I had to run 'nvidia-xconfig', but that was definitely _it_. I absolutely, positively, did not have to edit any config files. -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Debian's glacial movement--a rant
Freddy Freeloader wrote: Just an update on this. I have asked on #gnucash if the patch for this bug can be backported to 2.2.6 upstream and they say this is a Debian problem as it is fixed in Gnucash. They will not do anything to help. Here's the short conversation from #gnucash. * Now talking on #gnucash * Topic for #gnucash is: Free GPL Personal and Small Business Accounting || Please don't ask to ask, just ask and wait! || publically-logged channel || latest stable: 2.2.9 * Topic for #gnucash set by jsled at Wed May 6 07:46:39 2009 garyk Is it possible to have the patch for bug #564928 backported to 2.2.6? I have all my business records in gnucash and this bug crashes gnucash every time I start it. I run Debian and who knows how long it will take for Debian to catch up. Right now they are almost a year behind in version numbers. * twunder (~twun...@pool-96-234-154-75.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net) has joined #gnucash * warlord-afk is now known as warlord warlord garyk: you need to ask that of Debian. The GnuCash releases dont have the bug. * warlord is now known as warlord-afk garyk The Debian devs say it needs to be done upstream as they won't/can't backport the patch. That's why I asked here. This looks to be the classic answer given by my stepkids when they were growing up and didn't want to take responsibility for anything: Who's responsible? Not me. Not me was responsible for everything done wrong in our house for a couple of years. I didn't know one person could get into that much mischief all their own. ;) Gnucash version 2.2.6 was released July 31, 2008. The fixed version of Gnucash, 2.2.9 was released February 4, 2009. It's now May 11, 2009 and counting. The patch for this critical bug was released 3 months ago and nothing has been done. It's now 5 weeks since I was told I was being a jerk for saying Debian was slow in moving on this as they were 3 versions, and 9 months, behind. Well, Debian is now 3 versions and 10 months behind, and the patch has been available for 120+ days while the bug has been archived in Debian since the day after it was reported. It couldn't be that this critical bug just isn't on anyone's list of priorities could it? There were a couple of suggestions made a while back. Just curious, did you try any of those? One was to build a patched version of Gnucash yourself, with a patch supplied by Florian Kulzer along with detailed instrucions on how to build. Another was to contact Debian backports and ask if anyone there would build a deb for you. -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Unexplained changes in Gnome functionality
Andrew G wrote: Hi list Of late, Gnome has been behaving in unpredictable ways. I am using testing/Squeeze and sometime over the last few weeks, a number of changes have taken place that I am unable to reverse, and I would really appreciate a bit of help from this list if that is not too much trouble. In no order of priority: 1) When I right-click on an image file in my home directory in order to access the properties of that image to add notes to it, the whole set of desktop icons, including my home directory and Conky all disappear for a few seconds and then re-appear (except when it does, Conky has been killed). This happens all the time now and so on the multiple images I have which I need to work with, I cannot access any of the notes pertaining to those images because (a) to be able to do so seems to be specifically a Nautillus or is it Metacity (?) functionality and unless I am in Gnome this function doesn't even exist, and (b) there is no way that I can access the notes if the system keeps throwing a wobbly like that. This part I didn't really understand, sorry. Is this just Conky acting up? 2) When double-clicking on an image file, EOG is opened as the default image viewer. It used to be, and I would prefer, GQView. However, I cannot see anywhere in Gnome to set this as the default behaviour so I have to right click and select GQView from the open with option. Not my preferred action, but as I said, there isn't any (obvious) way around this. For any file, right click, go to properies, go to the 'open with' tab. 3) Despite setting up a script to be called when Gnome starts up, Conky appears briefly and then is replaced/ over-written by the desktop image. I have set the script to sleep for about 10 seconds before being drawn, but this just doesn't happen. I can only get Conky going if I manually call it. Again, not a big issue, just a PITA really. 4) Finally, icons from removable media are not being placed on my desktop like they used to. This may well have something to do with UDEV, but beyond that I haven't a clue on what's up nor - even more critically - what I can do about it. I don't like desktop icons anyway, but I know what you mean. I am no expert, but what I've observed seems to be that this happens whenever there is an update that has anything to do with HAL or UDEV, and the only thing that I've found that puts everything back in order is to reboot the system. Otherwise, drives are not mounted automatically, and so I need to mount them manually (right click in Nautilus, choose 'mount'). Keep in mind that Testing is going to be pretty volatile for the next while, there are going to be hiccups. I've asked this list for help before on a couple of these issues and the response has been - with the exception of one kind soul who did respond - crap. I don't know if there is a secret code or something that I am supposed to be using to get some response? I am using a Debian system, the Debian community is supposed to be helpful, I am asking questions politely and giving as much info as possible. I have tried to help myself through using Google, but in many instances if one doesn't know what one is looking for, it becomes very hard to find an answer. I know what you mean, but in the end this is absolutlely free support from people who do have other lives. I have learned that the quality and accuracy of the question I ask is incredibly important. This guy can come off as a bit of dick, so please don't think that I feel the same way about everything, but he has some good points to make: http://catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html So, if some generous person on these Debian lists could lend me the benefit of their experience and knowledge, that would be immense benefit and I would be grateful. -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Firefox and testing
Frank McCormick wrote: I am running testing on a dual core Pentium...and this morning after the latest updates, Firefox comes up all the time in offline mode. I assume the two are connected...anybody have a fix?? I've run into that twice, both times same sol'n: Uninstall network-manager. -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Nvidia TNT Riva 2
brad wrote: I have an older TNT Riva 2 Model 64 graphics card. Is it possible to install the correct driver for this card in Debian Lenny? Would appreciate any help. I know this is going to annoy you, but I have to say it: you could get a card that is 1000 times more powerful for about $10. However if there is some compelling reason then you could try loading the nvidia-glx-legacy drivers from non-free. I see they have a 71xx series, which the nvidia website shows as appropriate for the TNT2. I think I still have one of those lying around somewhere, it was my first Nvidia card, and the one that I first got working on Linux. I played a lot of Quake back then :-) -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Nvidia TNT Riva 2
Felix Miata wrote: On 2009/05/09 19:17 (GMT-0400) JoeHill composed: brad wrote: Â Â I have an older TNT Riva 2 Model 64 graphics card. Is it possible to install the correct driver for this card in Debian Lenny? I know this is going to annoy you, but I have to say it: you could get a card that is 1000 times more powerful for about $10. Maybe. Maybe he has no AGP or PCIe slot. Maybe he doesn't need 3D. However if there is some compelling reason then you could try loading the nvidia-glx-legacy drivers from non-free. I see they have a 71xx series, which the nvidia website shows as appropriate for the TNT2. Or he could use the FOSS nv driver. You're right, it was so silly of me to assume that he had a working X with the default nv driver which is loaded automatically, and that he wanted to find out about something other than that. -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Wine and itunes
Raquel wrote: On Wed, 6 May 2009 08:14:28 -0500 Neal Hogan nealho...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 7:56 AM, Christopher Judd j...@wadsworth.org wrote: Hi, My son is fed up with Windows and wants to purge it from his system, and run ubuntu or debian. The only thing holding him back at this time is itunes. There are a handful of packages that can deal with an ipod (transfer to and from). I've had success with Amarok. I understand that others have used gtkpod and Banshee. Also, these don't require windows . . . I mean, wine. I must insert here that this depends upon your iPod. Amarok will not work with the new gen 4 Nano. So far, I've found nothing in Linux that will work with the gen 4 Nano (my spouse and I each got one for Christmas). I think that might be the version of software you're using. libgpod, which Amarok and GTKPods use to access iPods, has supported those for awhile. -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Wine and itunes
Raquel wrote: On Wed, 6 May 2009 08:56:15 -0400 Christopher Judd j...@wadsworth.org wrote: My son is fed up with Windows and wants to purge it from his system, and run ubuntu or debian. The only thing holding him back at this time is itunes. You will hear a lot of it works with $someplayer. That is a VERY broad statement considering all the different iPods and generations of iPods. For instance, just moving files from a player to a 4th gen Nano will make it unusable and make it necessary to start over again by using a Windows/mac machine and iTunes. I know. I have a 4th gen Nano and have tried. I have made several trips over to the neighbor's house to use iTunes. That just means you're using an outdated version of libgpod which does not understand the iPod's encrypted database, and so cannot write to it properly. The database gets corrupted and it looks like there's nothing on it. You just need to upgrade to a newer version of libgpod. You should drop by the IRC channel at #gtkpod, that's where I got help so many months ago when I was running into the same problem. -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Wine and itunes
Christopher Judd wrote: My son is fed up with Windows and wants to purge it from his system, and run ubuntu or debian. The only thing holding him back at this time is itunes. Like most teenagers, he uses it regularly and has a rather large itunes library. Does anyone have experience running a recent version of itunes (preferably 8.something) in wine on a debian box? I've done some looking online, but haven't found a definite answer. I tried it with the package in experimental on my box at work (which is amd64), but was not successful. I have a 32 bit system at home that I can try it on. i just tried (again) to install iTunes under Wine (latest version available, built from source), and it failed (again). I've seen reports that with a patched version of Wine it will work, or that if you use an older version of iTunes it might work. I have never personally seen it work, and I've tried a lot of times. I use gtkpod with my 5th gen Classic, and I've never had one single problem. Of course, I cannot access the iTunes music store. -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Wine and itunes
Raquel wrote: On Wed, 6 May 2009 11:39:25 -0400 JoeHill joeh...@teksavvy.com wrote: Raquel wrote: On Wed, 6 May 2009 08:56:15 -0400 Christopher Judd j...@wadsworth.org wrote: My son is fed up with Windows and wants to purge it from his system, and run ubuntu or debian. The only thing holding him back at this time is itunes. You will hear a lot of it works with $someplayer. That is a VERY broad statement considering all the different iPods and generations of iPods. For instance, just moving files from a player to a 4th gen Nano will make it unusable and make it necessary to start over again by using a Windows/mac machine and iTunes. I know. I have a 4th gen Nano and have tried. I have made several trips over to the neighbor's house to use iTunes. That just means you're using an outdated version of libgpod which does not understand the iPod's encrypted database, and so cannot write to it properly. The database gets corrupted and it looks like there's nothing on it. You just need to upgrade to a newer version of libgpod. You should drop by the IRC channel at #gtkpod, that's where I got help so many months ago when I was running into the same problem. -- J According to their web site, the iPod Shuffle is NOT supported, as of 04/19/09. http://gtkpod.wikispaces.com/message/view/Supported+iPods/11251545 The new 4GB Shuffle? That one just came out in the last month, no? You said you had the Nano 4G, from last year... As for the Shuffle, give them a few weeks, they'll get to it ;) -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Wine and itunes
Raquel wrote: On Wed, 6 May 2009 11:39:25 -0400 JoeHill joeh...@teksavvy.com wrote: Raquel wrote: On Wed, 6 May 2009 08:56:15 -0400 Christopher Judd j...@wadsworth.org wrote: My son is fed up with Windows and wants to purge it from his system, and run ubuntu or debian. The only thing holding him back at this time is itunes. You will hear a lot of it works with $someplayer. That is a VERY broad statement considering all the different iPods and generations of iPods. For instance, just moving files from a player to a 4th gen Nano will make it unusable and make it necessary to start over again by using a Windows/mac machine and iTunes. I know. I have a 4th gen Nano and have tried. I have made several trips over to the neighbor's house to use iTunes. That just means you're using an outdated version of libgpod which does not understand the iPod's encrypted database, and so cannot write to it properly. The database gets corrupted and it looks like there's nothing on it. You just need to upgrade to a newer version of libgpod. You should drop by the IRC channel at #gtkpod, that's where I got help so many months ago when I was running into the same problem. -- J According to their web site, the iPod Shuffle is NOT supported, as of 04/19/09. http://gtkpod.wikispaces.com/message/view/Supported+iPods/11251545 BTW, what version of libgpod do you have installed? -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
