Re: Webmin Sys/Hostname.pm broken
Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote: On Tue, 7 Oct 2003, Jonathan Markevich wrote: Error - Perl execution failed Can't locate Sys/Hostname.pm in @INC... I just did a fresh install of webmin on the latest testing and I got no errors, I found the problem, I had changed my hostname and the webmin.conf had my old one in there. When I updated it, no error. Any clues where that should be? Did a package remove that? It is in the package perl, The version I have is 5.8.0-18 perl -e "use Sys::Hostname;" works without errors. Can you say "Red Herring?" Is anyone using Webmin? Several people :) Yet any search on the Net comes up with only RedHat people with this error :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Webmin Sys/Hostname.pm broken
I haven't seen a solution for this anywhere, webmin has been broken in my install for a couple of weeks now, since I did a dist-upgrade to the latest testing. I get this: Error - Perl execution failed Can't locate Sys/Hostname.pm in @INC... Any clues where that should be? Did a package remove that? Is anyone using Webmin? __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Demand dialing when I don't demand
I've set up a lightweight box as a gateway on my home network, and used demand dialing. It works, pretty much, but whenever I try to SSH to that machine, it dials up to the Internet before it will allow me to connect. It wants to dial whenever I connect to the IMAP on it or anything else. I have it set as the gateway and it dials whether I feed it the IP address or use the hostname in my hosts file. Any idea how to set it to not be so jumpy? P.S. please reply to me directly, I'm not subscribed to the list. Thanks! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
more than 3 buttons in X?
I have a Microsoft Optical mouse, with 5 buttons. I'm running X 4.0.x, is there support for using all of them? I have "7" buttons set up in config, but I'm not sure how to tell it what I want them to do. Thanks. -- Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.geocities.com/jmarkevich Life is like a simile.
KDE 2.1.1 where are my fonts?
Ok, the apt-get upgrade to KDE 2.1.1 is WONDERFUL. X FINALLY HAS ANTIALIASING!!! However, I'm missing all but three fonts. Where are they? I had Sans-Serif stuff before this, now it's gone. Ideas? Thanks. -- Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.geocities.com/jmarkevich Love thy neighbor, tune thy piano.
Re: OT: Best PDA?
On Wed, Mar 21, 2001 at 02:23:10PM +0100, Andre Berger wrote: * Jonathan Gift <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 20010321 12:20 +0100: > I'm looking to make my debian more mobile by hooking up a PDA. Last I > looked, the Palm OS dominated, only I didn't like learning its language. > Is there anything else or is it worth learning after all? My primary > use will be for making text notes. Or, let's say, adapting text notes > made on the desktop and moved over. I have a Palm and it's awesome with Linux, provided you get the right tools. jpilot is very good, and the mail plugin works 95% (you have to manually delete sent items). As far as its "language" it's not hard (most people master it in 20 minutes), but if you really really don't like it, there are several keyboards available, I use (and love) the GoType! from Landware, though the Palm portable keyboard is full-size. For editors, most agree that pedit is second to none in power, and his companion LapTopHack allows quite a bit of power to be available from the keyboard. If you want full word-processing features (but less text-manipulation features) WordSmith is very nice, and they have a Linux doc converter (although closed source). I'm on them to improve it -- they insist there is no standard for Linux conduits (I've told them 'ever heard of libpisock?') The third-party software availability for Palm machines is incredible, and although the $10-15 shareware is common, freeware is just as common. GPL stuff is out there, and growing, but it's hard to break GPL into a whole new platform, it seems. -- Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.geocities.com/jmarkevich Well, O.K. I'll compromise with my principles because of EXISTENTIAL DESPAIR!
2.4 Loopback file system mounts
Were there any changes to files that are necessary to support loopback mounts in 2.4? I have one iso image that I mount as a drive for Wine, and whenever I try to mount it, it hangs pretty solid. I have to reboot to kill that task (no kill options I tried work on it). I have woody, with util-linux and mount version 2.10s-2, where the documentation seems to indicate I only need 2.10o. Anything else necessary? (Yes, kernel support is compiled in) -- Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.geocities.com/jmarkevich What is worth doing is worth the trouble of asking somebody to do.
Re: Problem with yesterday's woody update
On Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 03:07:16PM -0800, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote: > on Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 05:24:17PM +, Colin Watson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > wrote: > > Bob Nielsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >Not being conversant in perl, can someone tell me what to do about the > > >following error I received after the latest woody updates: > > <...> > > > I suspect testing is broken (new perl, old debconf). Wait for a newer > > debconf to get in, or install the debconf from unstable. > ^ > This is the fix I used, and recommended by Joey Hess. Can you suggest how to do this? I get: Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: debconf: Depends: libapt-pkg3.1 E: Sorry, broken packages fennywood:/home/jonathan# apt-get install libapt-pkg3.1 Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done Note, selecting apt instead of libapt-pkg3.1 Sorry, apt is already the newest version. 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 202 not upgraded. 1 packages not fully installed or removed. Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used. Setting up libpaperg (1.0.5) ... Can't locate Debconf/Client/ConfModule.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/lib/perl5/5.005/i386-linux /usr/lib/perl5/5.005 /usr/local/lib/site_perl/i386-linux /usr/local/lib/site_perl /usr/lib/perl5 .) at /var/lib/dpkg/info/libpaperg.config line 3. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /var/lib/dpkg/info/libpaperg.config line 3. dpkg: error processing libpaperg (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2 Errors were encountered while processing: libpaperg E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) Around and around again we go... -- Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.geocities.com/jmarkevich Truth is free, but information costs.
Re: Can't reach ipchains from 2.4
On Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 06:58:31PM -0500, David B. Harris wrote: > To quote Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > # I'm trying to compile in ipchains emulation support in kernel 2.4, but > make > # xconfig has it greyed out and I have no idea what I need to enable to > get to > # it. Can someone point me in the right direction? > > You need to disable all 'iptables' support in order for IPChains > compatibility to be available. Or, you have to compile everything > iptables/ipchains-related as modules. Only one type can be in use at a > time :) Bingo! Thanks to both of you who responded...! -- Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.geocities.com/jmarkevich One of the large consolations for experiencing anything unpleasant is the knowledge that one can communicate it. -- Joyce Carol Oates
Can't reach ipchains from 2.4
I'm trying to compile in ipchains emulation support in kernel 2.4, but make xconfig has it greyed out and I have no idea what I need to enable to get to it. Can someone point me in the right direction? Thanks. -- Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.geocities.com/jmarkevich A man's best friend is his dogma.
Re: Nvidia .97 drivers
On Sun, Mar 18, 2001 at 12:17:46PM -0700, ray p wrote: > Has anybody played with these yet and if so how do they work and did you > have any problems. Also is the new AA stuff worth the risk of a update? > Thanks for any info. No problem. I'm using .9-767. I've had remarkable success with installing their drivers, when there was a problem, it turned out to be *gcc* was not configured correctly. They've put a lot of work into making them easy to install. Take a look through os-registry.c to see if there are any settings you want to force on. I haven't tried the AA stuff just yet, but the GLX seems fine (gotta get my joystick working right in 2.4 to test it properly) -- Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.geocities.com/jmarkevich You want to know why I kept getting promoted? Because my mouth knows more than my brain. -- W.G.
USB mouse in gpm + 2.4
Has anyone used a usb mouse in kernel 2.4? I'm running Woody and finally got 2.4 running, hoping for its advantages. I can't seem to get gpm to recognize the mouse. I found a page that recommends: mknod /dev/mice c 13 63 And I also tried: mknod /dev/input/mouse0 c 180 16 ...as a test, based on devices.txt in the kernel tarball. My /proc/devices contains: Character devices: 1 mem 2 pty 3 ttyp 4 ttyS 5 cua 6 lp 7 vcs 10 misc 13 input 14 sound 108 ppp 128 ptm 136 pts 162 raw 180 usb 195 nvidia Block devices: 2 fd 3 ide0 7 loop 22 ide1 Ideas? Thanks. -- Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.geocities.com/jmarkevich Things will be bright in P.M. A cop will shine a light in your face.
Re: NVdriver problems
On Fri, Mar 16, 2001 at 08:27:27PM -0600, Zac Epkes wrote: > NO!!! the NVdriver does not work with 2.4.x kernels > Use XFree 4.0.x [preferable 2] > > u MUST have the kernel source and headers in /usr/src/ > leave the kernel header folder alone... i would rename the kernel-source* > folder to linux/ and then build the GLX package then the NVIDIA_kernel > package... Another happy 2.4.2+NVdriver (.967) user. Works fine so far. I did compile with source+headers symlinked to /usr/src/linux, though. I tried to have it in the right spot but when I unpacked kernel 2.4 it blasted my *proper* /usr/src/linux setup. Oh well... -- Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.geocities.com/jmarkevich Seduced, shaggy Samson snored. She scissored short. Sorely shorn, Soon shackled slave, Samson sighed, Silently scheming, Sightlessly seeking Some savage, spectacular suicide. -- Stanislaw Lem, "Cyberiad"
Kernel 2.4.2 and kapm-idled
OK, I know it's just an idle daemon, but what do I need to adjust in my Woody setup so it's not included in the system load? I don't need to disable apm, do I? Probably a FAQ somewhere, right...? -- Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.geocities.com/jmarkevich The penalty for laughing in a courtroom is six months in jail; if it were not for this penalty, the jury would never hear the evidence. -- H. L. Mencken
Re: Rich text format.
On Mon, Mar 12, 2001 at 03:54:06PM -0700, Simmons-Davis wrote: > Dear Debian Group, > > I would like to know what program you would use to work with rich text > format in Linux. Ideally something like WP8 or StarOffice, but you'd be surprised how flexible and usable Pathetic Writer is (apt-get install xwp) -- Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.geocities.com/jmarkevich A girl's best friend is her mutter. -- Dorothy Parker
winesetup won't run!
Can anyone help me with winesetup? I had a small disaster with my home directories and now wine is supremely unconfigured. Now when I ask it to please configure, it tries to run winesetuptk (installed) and bombs with "Failed to load Itcl extension This interpreter does not support stubs-enabled extensions" The README.TXT doesn't help much. Is there a dependency that got left out, perhaps? Thanks... -- The trouble with eating Italian food is that five or six days later you're hungry again. -- George Miller
HTML2RTF
Has someone come across a command-line HTML to RTF converter? As far as GUI tools, nothing seems to be able to touch pathetic writer (WP, StarOffice, AbiWord all choke) I'm thinking of unifying all of my Palm docs into one format, and I registered WordSmith -- a RTF based editor. Or do I have to keep iSilo? -- Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.geocities.com/jmarkevich == It's VIRUSES, not VIRII! See http://language.perl.com/misc/virus.html == This is a test of the Emergency Broadcast System. If this had been an actual emergency, do you really think we'd stick around to tell you?
Re: Pilot-link utilities???
On Thu, Feb 15, 2001 at 05:31:47PM -0500, MaD dUCK wrote: > what's your command-line? > > i use pilot-xfer -p /dev/ttyS0 Nope, spits on me. > and it works very fine. do not use /dev/cua0. > > > Sent from my Palm III > > is that why we got the email three times? :) Naw, it's the jpilot-Mail plug-in, which, apart from the fact that it doesn't remove files after being sent (so you don't know they're sent), is one incredibly cool part-program. -- Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.geocities.com/jmarkevich == It's VIRUSES, not VIRII! See http://language.perl.com/misc/virus.html == Let us endeavor so to live that when we come to die even the undertaker will be sorry. -- Maek Twain, "Pudd'nhead Wilson's Calendar"
Pilot-link utilities???
Has anyone here used the Pilot-mail utility lately? I can't get it to recognize a port, each time I run it, it says "unable to bind to port -p" and "file does not exist". Well, perhaps I should qualify that, it did work, once, when I removed the "-p" from the parameters, but I haven't been able to repeat that since. To quote John Cleese, any help you could give would be very... helpful. Thanks! -- -- Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent from my Palm III
Pilot-link utilities???
Has anyone here used the Pilot-mail utility lately? I can't get it to recognize a port, each time I run it, it says "unable to bind to port -p" and "file does not exist". Well, perhaps I should qualify that, it did work, once, when I removed the "-p" from the parameters, but I haven't been able to repeat that since. To quote John Cleese, any help you could give would be very... helpful. Thanks! -- -- Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent from my Palm III
Pilot-link utilities???
Has anyone here used the Pilot-mail utility lately? I can't get it to recognize a port, each time I run it, it says "unable to bind to port -p" and "file does not exist". Well, perhaps I should qualify that, it did work, once, when I removed the "-p" from the parameters, but I haven't been able to repeat that since. To quote John Cleese, any help you could give would be very... helpful. Thanks! -- -- Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent from my Palm III
Pilot-link utilities???
Has anyone here used the Pilot-mail utility lately? I can't get it to recognize a port, each time I run it, it says "unable to bind to port -p" and "file does not exist". Well, perhaps I should qualify that, it did work, once, when I removed the "-p" from the parameters, but I haven't been able to repeat that since. To quote John Cleese, any help you could give would be very... helpful. Thanks!
Re: New outlook Virus
On Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 07:58:10AM -0800, Juan Alberto Cirez wrote:
> Hi All. I have viewd the code for the new email virus. As you all know
> it's a VBS file. I don't do VBS so I really don't know how it does what
> it does. Anyways Here is the text. Can someone enlighten me:
> ++Begin Virus Text
> 'Vbs.OnTheFly Created By OnTheFly
> Execute
> e7iqom5JE4z("X)udQ0VpgjnH{tEcggvf{DQVpgjnH{QptGqttgTwugoPzgvU
[and so on]
Change the "Execute" statement above to MsgBox and you can see the decrypted
code. I chopped it into smaller segments just to be safe... :)
--
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http://www.geocities.com/jmarkevich
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procmail and keeping mail on the POP
I've been using maildir mailboxes forever, and want to change that, putting my personal mail onto my local POP server. However, when I change my procmail recipes from inbox to ! jonathan It just takes another ride through procmail, and bounces it back out after a couple dozen trips. How can I avoid this? -- Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.geocities.com/jmarkevich == It's VIRUSES, not VIRII! See http://language.perl.com/misc/virus.html == Have you noticed that all you need to grow healthy, vigorous grass is a crack in your sidewalk?
Removing mesa safely
I upgraded to XFree 4.0.2 last week, and it went well. However, in trying to install the nVidia driver, I had a conflict with Mesa... it wants to remove mesa as well as all of kde2! I believe it provides gl1 or something of that nature... The question is, do I need mesa with XFree 4.0.2? Isn't this provided by the nVidia GLX? Or maybe not? Or DRI? Or are they all different pieces of the same puzzle? -- Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.geocities.com/jmarkevich == It's VIRUSES, not VIRII! See http://language.perl.com/misc/virus.html ==
Re: help debugging a compiler error (cpp)
On Fri, Jan 05, 2001 at 05:08:01PM -0500, Mike wrote: > > bash-2.03$ make > > rm -f nv.o os-interface.o os-registry.o Module-linux NVdriver > > cc -c -Wall -Wunknown-pragmas -Wno-multichar -O -D__KERNEL__ -DMODULE > > -D_LOOSE_KERNEL_NAMES -DUNIX -DLINUX -DNV4_HW -DNTRM -DRM20 -D_X86_=1 > > -Di386=1 -D_GNU_SOURCE -DRM_HEAPMGR -D_LOOSE_KERNEL_NAMES-I. > > -I/usr/src/linux/include nv.c > > cpp: -lang-c: linker input file unused since linking not done > > cc: installation problem, cannot exec 'cc1': No such file or directory > > make: *** [nv.o] Error 1 > > --- > > > > Does anyone know what I need installed here? Thanks. > > As root, do: > update-alternatives --display cc > and check what cc is pointing at. On my system: > > hal9000:~# update-alternatives --display cc > cc - status is auto. > link currently points to /usr/bin/gcc > /usr/bin/gcc - priority 20 > slave cc.1.gz: /usr/share/man/man1/gcc.1.gz > Current best' version is /usr/bin/gcc. And mine... fennywood:/usr/src# update-alternatives --display cc cc - status is auto. link currently points to /usr/bin/gcc /usr/bin/gcc - priority 20 slave cc.1.gz: /usr/share/man/man1/gcc.1.gz Current est' version is /usr/bin/gcc. > cc is pointing at gcc. I'm suspecting that on yours it is somehow pointing > t cc1 which doesn't appear to exist on you system. If you do (again as > root): > update-alternatives --config cc > you should be able to redirect the cc symlink to something that exists. I have no idea where it gets the idea there's a cc1 somewhere... -- Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.geocities.com/jmarkevich == It's VIRUSES, not VIRII! See http://language.perl.com/misc/virus.html ==
help debugging a compiler error (cpp)
--- bash-2.03$ make rm -f nv.o os-interface.o os-registry.o Module-linux NVdriver cc -c -Wall -Wunknown-pragmas -Wno-multichar -O -D__KERNEL__ -DMODULE -D_LOOSE_KERNEL_NAMES -DUNIX -DLINUX -DNV4_HW -DNTRM -DRM20 -D_X86_=1 -Di386=1 -D_GNU_SOURCE -DRM_HEAPMGR -D_LOOSE_KERNEL_NAMES-I. -I/usr/src/linux/include nv.c cpp: -lang-c: linker input file unused since linking not done cc: installation problem, cannot exec 'cc1': No such file or directory make: *** [nv.o] Error 1 --- Does anyone know what I need installed here? Thanks. -- Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.geocities.com/jmarkevich == It's VIRUSES, not VIRII! See http://language.perl.com/misc/virus.html == Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. -- Martin Luther King, Jr.
GeForce2 MX, drivers, X4...
Well, the price was right and I grabbed a GeForce2 MX card... now I have no X. I understood X 3.3.x support was nil, so started an X4 upgrade...! Now, I'm not sure how to proceed, I'm still downloading one packages, (xserver-xfree86), but if I understand correctly, I need to compile the kernel module and stuff. Has anyone done this? I try to compile the latest module (0.9-5) and get... cpp: -lang-c: linker input file unused since linking not done cc: installation problem, cannot exec 'cc1': No such file or directory make: *** [nv.o] Error 1 ? I don't understand the error. What just happened? Do I really need to do this? This is quite different... -- Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.geocities.com/jmarkevich == It's VIRUSES, not VIRII! See http://language.perl.com/misc/virus.html == Concerning the war in Vietnam, Senator George Aiken of Vermont noted in January, 1966, "I'm not very keen for doves or hawks. I think we need more owls." -- Bill Adler, "The Washington Wits"
Re: kde
On Sun, Dec 31, 2000 at 08:53:46AM -0500, A R wrote: > > What is it that must be added to sources.list to get kde? > > > > Found: > deb ftp://kde.tdyc.com/pub/kde potato main crypto optional qt1apps > > Now, to indicate that you want only that, and say, downloaded, not installed, > apt-get -d (what packages?) > That is, is there a name that allows downloading all kde for debian without > listing every single package (I beleive about 300 of them)? Usually kdebase. However, where is the same line for kde2? I have a moldy kde2 installation now, and tdyc doesn't seem to respond to it... -- Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.geocities.com/jmarkevich == It's VIRUSES, not VIRII! See http://language.perl.com/misc/virus.html ==
Re: CD Audio tracks/file system
I had done that, but overlooked one small fact; I was in the cdrom group, but not the disk group, to which /dev/hdc was pointed. I had no rights to physically scan the CD for tracks! How has everyone else set up the permissions for their IDE /dev/cdrom links? I don't like being in the disk group, I just hope it's usually automatically set up the *proper* way and I just wrecked it myself... On Sat, Dec 23, 2000 at 06:01:52PM -0700, Cameron Matheson wrote: > Hey, > > I had to open up the xmms properties, and then enable the CD plug-in. It > will > probably ask you what device name it is, etc. But after that, it worked > fine for > me. > > Cameron Matheson > > > - Original Message - > From: Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2000 1:42 PM > Subject: CD Audio tracks/file system > > > > I was just over at a friend's place, and showing him how to use Storm... > > when I showed him XMMS, and he asked if it would play CDs. I said "It's > > supposed to..." and put a CD in, pointed it at his /cdrom path, and it > > showed up! All sorts of *.cda tracks. I can't replicate it on my system > > though! What am I missing? > > > > -- > > Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > http://www.geocities.com/jmarkevich > > == It's VIRUSES, not VIRII! See http://language.perl.com/misc/virus.html > == > > > > > > -- > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.geocities.com/jmarkevich == It's VIRUSES, not VIRII! See http://language.perl.com/misc/virus.html == The verdict of a jury is the a priori opinion of that juror who smokes the worst cigars. -- H. L. Mencken
CD Audio tracks/file system
I was just over at a friend's place, and showing him how to use Storm... when I showed him XMMS, and he asked if it would play CDs. I said "It's supposed to..." and put a CD in, pointed it at his /cdrom path, and it showed up! All sorts of *.cda tracks. I can't replicate it on my system though! What am I missing? -- Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.geocities.com/jmarkevich == It's VIRUSES, not VIRII! See http://language.perl.com/misc/virus.html ==
Re: daily changes of my modem from crw-rw---- to crw-r-----
On Thu, Dec 21, 2000 at 10:20:59AM -0800, Ed wrote: > I'm using wvdial to to dialup. ^^ Here's your problem. I loved wvdial, very smart, until this same thing happened to me. It's a bug. > My modem device permissions seem to be getting put to crw-r- and I > cannot dialup as a regular user until I set them to crw-rw as root. > I understand that these permissions get changed during a dialup session > and changed back afterwards. Something else is going on that is > occasionally preventing the change back or actually changing permissions > to crw-r. Use pppconfig with "pon" to dial and "poff" to hangup. pppconfig is very smart and automated, you'll be pleased. -- Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.geocities.com/jmarkevich == It's VIRUSES, not VIRII! See http://language.perl.com/misc/virus.html == Physician: One upon whom we set our hopes when ill and our dogs when well. -- Ambrose Bierce
Re: XFree 4.0.2, testing all new stuff to me
I got it to work, but here's some pointers for the archives :)
On Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 10:11:42PM -0600, Kevin C. Smith wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 10:44:09PM -0500, Jonathan Markevich wrote:
> > I'm wondering what to put in sources.list for the new testing distribution.
> > I've been holding off a wholesale woody upgrade for something exactly like
> > this!
>
> You would change ("stable" or "potato") to ("testing" or "woody")
> such as:
> deb ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian woody main contrib non-free
Did that, it complained a great deal... (see below)
> > When I tried just changing my potato entries to woody, I get threats to
> > remove kdebase. I've begun to rely an awful lot on KDE2 lately... are my
> > fears of KDE rejection unwarranted? I'd also like to get the latest X,
> > since I'm still running 3.x, it might just be time to leap! Where is it?
> > Woody? If so, is it named something different, like xfree-4 or is there X
> > 3.x at all in Woody? (I want that XRender extension...!)
>
> >From what I have read testing/woody has been rolled back to potato 2.2r2, so
> I would think you woud experience no change in packages at this time,
> including KDE packages.
I did get it to work, and there was about 81 packages to update, so there is
something.
> I also read that Xfree4.01 will not be in testing for a while, which leaves
> you with Xfree3.3.6 for now.
Drat, and me with high speed access for only two more days...
> > Any pointers, or should I just hold on and wait for a bigger announcement?
>
> Don't really know. Have read that testing may not be completely ready yet, but
> don't know if that is true. Maybe give it a week, or do some research, and try
> it. It sounds good to me.
Ok, here's what happened. When I tried at first to update, it wanted to
remove a serious pile of packages. These removals were based on the
mesa-glide packages! My old Voodoo card isn't working in my new Athlon
machine, so I decided to back out to regular mesa (sigh) until I get a new
3D card. I couldn't uninstall it without bringing KDE2 with it! I
installed mesa on top of it, and it replaced as it would, without a
KDEctomy. NOW, I could upgrade with barely a hiccup.
It was a nice upgrade. I LOVE this new testing idea! It's exactly the
comfort/technology balance I want.
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Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
http://www.geocities.com/jmarkevich
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Re: Wonky keyboard with new Woody
Allow me to self-reply. Thanks to Stormpkg, I was able to find some suspicious uninstalled required packages, console-tools, etc. Once I selected those, it was fine. Strange. On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 09:08:22PM -0500, Jonathan Markevich wrote: > What could cause the keyboard to misbehave in woody? I just upgraded a few > minutes ago, and it occasionally seems to add some control character at > random. Sometimes this means it skips letters, others it throws the cursor > somewhere else (next line, bottom of the screen, etc) > > This mail took a lot of backspacing to type!!! > > P.S. this happens in and out of X. -- Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.geocities.com/jmarkevich == It's VIRUSES, not VIRII! See http://language.perl.com/misc/virus.html == Karlson's Theorem of Snack Food Packages: For all P, where P is a package of snack food, P is a SINGLE-SERVING package of snack food. Gibson the Cat's Corrolary: For all L, where L is a package of lunch meat, L is Gibson's package of lunch meat.
Wonky keyboard with new Woody
What could cause the keyboard to misbehave in woody? I just upgraded a few minutes ago, and it occasionally seems to add some control character at random. Sometimes this means it skips letters, others it throws the cursor somewhere else (next line, bottom of the screen, etc) This mail took a lot of backspacing to type!!! P.S. this happens in and out of X. -- Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.geocities.com/jmarkevich == It's VIRUSES, not VIRII! See http://language.perl.com/misc/virus.html == Go directly to jail. Do not pass Go, do not collect $200.
XFree 4.0.2, testing all new stuff to me
I'm wondering what to put in sources.list for the new testing distribution. I've been holding off a wholesale woody upgrade for something exactly like this! When I tried just changing my potato entries to woody, I get threats to remove kdebase. I've begun to rely an awful lot on KDE2 lately... are my fears of KDE rejection unwarranted? I'd also like to get the latest X, since I'm still running 3.x, it might just be time to leap! Where is it? Woody? If so, is it named something different, like xfree-4 or is there X 3.x at all in Woody? (I want that XRender extension...!) Any pointers, or should I just hold on and wait for a bigger announcement? -- Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.geocities.com/jmarkevich == It's VIRUSES, not VIRII! See http://language.perl.com/misc/virus.html == The British are coming! The British are coming!
2.4 module madness
This has the air of a FAQ, but, here I ask anyway. I've compiled 2.4.0-test 12 on my potato system... and it won't load any modules. This APPEARS to be the new structure of the /lib/modules directory.. nothing's immediately below /lib/modules/2.4.0-test12, but it's in a build link to the kernel source! Is there another step I have overlooked? Thanks. -- Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.geocities.com/jmarkevich == It's VIRUSES, not VIRII! See http://language.perl.com/misc/virus.html == There are a lot of lies going around and half of them are true. -- Winston Churchill
Re: XF86 4.0.1 for mach64 vcard?
On Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 12:48:06PM +0600, David Fenstermacher wrote: I haven't installed it yet, but I currently have the same card. I believe the 'ati' driver takes care of it. Check out: http://www.xfree86.org/4.0.1/Status6.html#6 If you get it all installed, tell me how it works and what you had to do! > I'm trying to upgrade my system to XF86 4.0.1, but the xserver for my > video card (ATI rage pro, mach64 chipset) doesn't seem to be there. The > XF86 website says that there is accelerated support for the mach64 > chipset in 4.0.1, so why can't I find the xserver for it? is the debian > package not ready yet? or is support for my card included in one of the > other packages? or am I just a complete idiot and overlooked something > obvious? :) -- Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.geocities.com/jmarkevich == It's VIRUSES, not VIRII! See http://language.perl.com/misc/virus.html ==
OT: LBA, LILO, repartitioning
OK, I threw LILO in there to avoid being *completely* off topic, but it is related... I had Windows refuse to load for an unexplainable reason the other day, and even my floppy drive INSISTS that the HD be set to LBA before anything works. The problem is that I've been running CHS for over a year now on my Maxtor 17 GB drive, through an upgrade to Potato, etc. Linux works with no problem! So my problem is... How can I switch to LBA? Do I have to delete all partitions before I can switch the drive over? If so, I'd have a hard time saving my data and my potato install, since it's become so big and customized. I'm right now backing up on to QIC-80 tapes, but they're awfully small and I'm only on my 8th tape in about 4 hours, and this is only my root and usr partitions! Any suggestions at all? Is it possible to switch the drive, delete and recreate one partition at a time? This is where LILO comes in, since it won't boot (LI...) if I do so. Is this just asking for trouble? I'd hate to even have to reinstall potato, since I'd have to download an awful lot over a 56k line.. Feel free to respond off-list, if you feel this is too far off-topic; this is just a good place to find gurus! (Grues? Ahh! Turn on the light!) Thanks in advance. -- Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.geocities.com/jmarkevich == It's VIRUSES, not VIRII! See http://language.perl.com/misc/virus.html == I'D LIKE TO BE BURIED INDIAN-STYLE, where they put you up on a high rack, above the ground. That way, you could get hit by meteorites and not even feel it. -- Jack Handley, The New Mexican, 1988.
Mesa and AGP
I don't know how on-topic this is, but here's a shot. I just upgraded to a new machine (yay) but the video has to wait... I'm using a PCI card along with my Voodoo 1. Now whenever I go into GL stuff I get garbage on the screen. Is this because of the AGP? Is there some way to get back the functionality of my old PCI only Pentium? (For those curious minds, Duron 650, Gigabyte 7IEX4, 128MB PC-133) Thanks! -- Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.geocities.com/jmarkevich == It's VIRUSES, not VIRII! See http://language.perl.com/misc/virus.html == hardcopy is for wussies computer program listingsnext, on HardCopy
Re: Strange PPP Server
On Wed, Nov 01, 2000 at 06:14:38PM -0600, John Hasler wrote: > Flyitlow writes: > > The correct way to use noauth is to place it in the peers file, > > /etc/ppp/peers/[name]. > > pppconfig does that. Here's the latest, I used pppconfig, and got (some munging has taken place)... hide-password noauth connect "/usr/sbin/chat -v -f /etc/chatscripts/TFN" /dev/ttyS0 debug 115200 defaultroute noipdefault user remotename TFN ipparam TFN usepeerdns idle 1800 When I try, I get this: Nov 2 17:18:37 fennywood pppd[2878]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x0 magic=0xcaf433b1] Nov 2 17:18:37 fennywood pppd[2878]: sent [PAP AuthReq id=0x1 user="" password="***"] Nov 2 17:18:37 fennywood pppd[2878]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x0 magic=0xd84e1b24] Nov 2 17:18:38 fennywood pppd[2878]: rcvd [PAP AuthAck id=0x1 ""] Nov 2 17:18:38 fennywood pppd[2878]: sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x1 ] Nov 2 17:18:38 fennywood pppd[2878]: sent [CCP ConfReq id=0x1 ] Nov 2 17:18:38 fennywood pppd[2878]: rcvd [IPCP ConfReq id=0xa5 ] Nov 2 17:18:38 fennywood pppd[2878]: sent [IPCP ConfRej id=0xa5 ] Nov 2 17:18:38 fennywood pppd[2878]: rcvd [proto=0x8207] 01 52 00 04 Nov 2 17:18:38 fennywood pppd[2878]: Unsupported protocol 0x8207 received Nov 2 17:18:38 fennywood pppd[2878]: sent [LCP ProtRej id=0x2 82 07 01 52 00 04] Nov 2 17:18:38 fennywood pppd[2878]: rcvd [IPCP ConfRej id=0x1 ] Nov 2 17:18:38 fennywood pppd[2878]: sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x2 ] Nov 2 17:18:38 fennywood pppd[2878]: rcvd [LCP ProtRej id=0xa 80 fd 01 01 00 0f 1a 04 78 00 18 04 78 00 15 03 2f] Nov 2 17:18:38 fennywood pppd[2878]: rcvd [IPCP ConfReq id=0xa6] Nov 2 17:18:38 fennywood pppd[2878]: sent [IPCP ConfAck id=0xa6] Nov 2 17:18:38 fennywood pppd[2878]: rcvd [IPCP ConfNak id=0x2 ] Nov 2 17:18:38 fennywood pppd[2878]: sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x3 ] Nov 2 17:18:38 fennywood pppd[2878]: rcvd [IPCP ConfAck id=0x3 ] Nov 2 17:18:38 fennywood pppd[2878]: Could not determine remote IP address Nov 2 17:18:38 fennywood pppd[2878]: sent [IPCP TermReq id=0x4 "Could not determine remote IP address"] Nov 2 17:18:38 fennywood pppd[2878]: rcvd [IPCP TermAck id=0x4] Nov 2 17:18:38 fennywood pppd[2878]: sent [LCP TermReq id=0x3 "No network protocols running"] Nov 2 17:18:38 fennywood pppd[2878]: rcvd [LCP TermAck id=0x3] Nov 2 17:18:38 fennywood pppd[2878]: Connection terminated. Nov 2 17:18:38 fennywood pppd[2878]: Connect time 0.2 minutes. Nov 2 17:18:38 fennywood pppd[2878]: Sent 432 bytes, received 375 bytes. Nov 2 17:18:39 fennywood pppd[2878]: Hangup (SIGHUP) Nov 2 17:18:39 fennywood pppd[2878]: Exit. So it looks to me like the DNS configuration has taken place, and the authorization also seems to have worked. What makes it not detect the remote IP address? Thanks for your help so far! -- Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.geocities.com/jmarkevich == It's VIRUSES, not VIRII! See http://language.perl.com/misc/virus.html == One of the signs of Napoleon's greatness is the fact that he once had a publisher shot. -- Siegfried Unseld
Re: Strange PPP server
On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 10:24:09PM -0600, John Hasler wrote: > Jonathan Markevich writes: > > I don't understand getting the PPP garbage right away... > > It means that the ISP wants to use PAP or CHAP authentication. ... > If this doesn't work ask for help again. Ooops, sorry, forgot the parameter to pon! I got the PAP request garbage and the connect script fails. I ran pppconfig, properly, like a sane individual, and it seemed to work! I guess I misunderstood the second parameter in pap-secrets... it was all trying to connect with a separate set of credentials. I'm not connected yet, but the problem is more with the provider now. Thanks again. -- Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.geocities.com/jmarkevich == It's VIRUSES, not VIRII! See http://language.perl.com/misc/virus.html == All his life he has looked away... to the horizon, to the sky, to the future. Never his mind on where he was, on what he was doing. -- Yoda
Re: Strange PPP server
On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 10:24:09PM -0600, John Hasler wrote: > Jonathan Markevich writes: > > I don't understand getting the PPP garbage right away... > > It means that the ISP wants to use PAP or CHAP authentication. Yes, but... > > Any suggestions off the top of your heads? > > Run pppconfig, select 'PAP' authentication, and connect with 'pon' and > disconnect with 'poff'. > > Most ISP's use PAP. A few use CHAP: try that next if PAP doesn't work. A > very few use scripted logins, which is what you are trying to use and which > your ISP does not use. > > If you've made any changes to /etc/ppp/options undo them. > > If this doesn't work ask for help again. Here I am! The line in pap-secrets reads something like... username* password and yet I get... Nov 1 17:10:34 fennywood pppd[7289]: The remote system is required to authenticate itself Nov 1 17:10:34 fennywood pppd[7289]: but I couldn't find any suitable secret (password) for it to use to do so. Nov 1 17:10:34 fennywood pppd[7289]: (None of the available passwords would let it use an IP address.) Thanks a LOT for your help so far... -- Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.geocities.com/jmarkevich == It's VIRUSES, not VIRII! See http://language.perl.com/misc/virus.html == Those who can, do; those who can't, write. Those who can't write work for the Bell Labs Record.
Strange PPP server
I'm trying to connect to the Toronto Freenet through Linux. I've been able to connect with Windows easily enough, but the regular chatscripts and peers/* setups don't seem to work. The best I can get is the following in my ppp.log: Oct 30 22:32:40 fennywood pppd[1390]: pppd 2.3.11 started by jonathan, uid 1000 Oct 30 22:32:41 fennywood chat[1391]: abort on (BUSY) Oct 30 22:32:41 fennywood chat[1391]: abort on (NO CARRIER) Oct 30 22:32:41 fennywood chat[1391]: abort on (VOICE) Oct 30 22:32:41 fennywood chat[1391]: abort on (NO DIALTONE) Oct 30 22:32:41 fennywood chat[1391]: send (ATDT416-642-2952^M) Oct 30 22:32:42 fennywood chat[1391]: expect (ogin) Oct 30 22:33:09 fennywood chat[1391]: ATDT416-642-2952^M^M Oct 30 22:33:09 fennywood chat[1391]: CONNECT 115200^M Oct 30 22:33:14 fennywood chat[1391]: [EMAIL PROTECTED] }8}"}&} }*} } [EMAIL PROTECTED]&$i[V}'}"}(}"[EMAIL PROTECTED] }8}"}&} }*} } }#}$ Oct 30 22:33:18 fennywood chat[1391]: #}%}&$i[V}'}"}(}"[EMAIL PROTECTED] }8}"}&} }*} } [EMAIL PROTECTED]&$i[V}'}"}(}"[EMAIL PROTECTED] Oct 30 22:33:21 fennywood chat[1391]: }8}"}&} }*} } [EMAIL PROTECTED]&$i[V}'}"}(}"[EMAIL PROTECTED] }8}"}&} }*} } [EMAIL PROTECTED]&$i[V} Oct 30 22:33:24 fennywood chat[1391]: '}"}(}"[EMAIL PROTECTED] }8}"}&} }*} } [EMAIL PROTECTED]&$i[V}'}"}(}"[EMAIL PROTECTED] } }8}"}&} } Oct 30 22:33:26 fennywood chat[1391]: *} } [EMAIL PROTECTED]&$i[V}'}"}(}"[EMAIL PROTECTED] }8}"}&} }*} } [EMAIL PROTECTED]&$i[V}'}"}(}"}=_ Oct 30 22:33:27 fennywood chat[1391]: alarm Oct 30 22:33:27 fennywood chat[1391]: Failed Oct 30 22:33:27 fennywood pppd[1390]: Connect script failed Oct 30 22:33:28 fennywood pppd[1390]: Terminating on signal 15. Oct 30 22:33:28 fennywood pppd[1390]: Exit. I don't understand getting the PPP garbage right away... I've also tried wvdial with similar results... sometimes it complains "Could not determine remote IP address" Any suggestions off the top of your heads? I've tried passive and silent modes, disabling all compression, noipdefault... I'm not sure how to guarantee I'll dial into the same IP address each time, either! Thanks for any suggestions. -- Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.geocities.com/jmarkevich == It's VIRUSES, not VIRII! See http://language.perl.com/misc/virus.html == QOTD: "What women and psychologists call `dropping your armor', we call "baring your neck."
Re: /bin/false (was Re: security questions)
On Sun, Oct 29, 2000 at 11:50:18PM +, sena wrote:
> I heard that Jonathan Markevich wrote this on 29/10/00:
> > However, writing one in C proved to be simple, and an afternoon's worth
> > of fun.
> >
> --(snip - false.c)--
> int main() { return 1; }
> --(snip - false.c)--
> 10 seconds writing plus 3 minutes worth of fun is more like it... :)
YOU *may* or may not have caught the subtle (and weak) humor. Of course
you've gone and re-invented my "wheel". Whatever happened to OOP? :)
Only 3 minutes of fun? Disappointing. You've gone and blown the rest of
the afternoon. Read through it, make it funnier. Imagine it in Perl. Or
Befunge. Or my favorite, Rube. (extra points if you use the "weasel" -- I
believe it's all on www.catseye.mb.ca...) Actually, this may be more of an
appropriate job for the language FALSE. Should we set up a sourceforge
project for this?
> > Oh writing it sure didn't take all afternoon, but the fun did. My current
> > /bin/false is a compiled ELF file, and I don't really know if it's mine or
> > Potato's (it's been a long time).
> >
> Potato's /bin/false has "a378dbf982c7694b173cd87ecc8463f1" md5sum.
32 bytes, huh? 24 for your source above (with spaces). Might as well
compile it yourself.
Oh well, I'll let you think of it. I've got a bash script that's a barrel
of laughs right now, gotta go.
--
Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
http://www.geocities.com/jmarkevich
== It's VIRUSES, not VIRII! See http://language.perl.com/misc/virus.html ==
Campus sidewalks never exist as the straightest line between two points.
-- M. M. Johnston
Re: /bin/false (was Re: security questions)
On Sat, Oct 28, 2000 at 03:20:15PM -0700, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote: > > also, i noticed that some accounts which are disabled are given a shell of > > /bin/false: > > > > ftp:x:100:65534::/home/ftp:/bin/false > > > > tiger seemed to hate this too. i tried playing around with /bin/false. > > can't seem to figure out what it is. whatever it is, it's tiny. only 4 kb > > long. > > See man false. Now I also have heard that a shell script /bin/false is a bad thing, because it still allows some nasty shell tricks, but I haven't come across any examples. It is also usually what distros install. However, writing one in C proved to be simple, and an afternoon's worth of fun. Oh writing it sure didn't take all afternoon, but the fun did. My current /bin/false is a compiled ELF file, and I don't really know if it's mine or Potato's (it's been a long time). -- Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.geocities.com/jmarkevich == It's VIRUSES, not VIRII! See http://language.perl.com/misc/virus.html == Man and wife make one fool.
pop-authenticate before SMTP?
My ISP is going down the toilet (again) and can't/won't manage a SMTP server. I'm forced to look at another option... Yahoo has a SMTP server I can use, since I do have an account with them, but I have to pop-authenticate before I can use it. Does anyone know the best MTA to use that allows this? I've tried running fetchpop just before manually flushing the queue but it doesn't seem to like it... Right now I'm using Potato's exim. Thanks. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. http://im.yahoo.com/
Re: Gnome sounds
On Thu, Sep 28, 2000 at 05:33:51PM -0400, Noah L. Meyerhans wrote: Bingo! Actually, I had *just* found it before I got this message. Note: "Mapped" means window open and "Unmapped" means window closed. How user-friendly is that? > Wouldn't the sound effects associated with opening and closing windows be > a function of your window manager? What are you using? If you're running > sawfish then I know it's got its own sound configuration. You can get to > it from within GNOME's configuration control panel or from Sawfish's > config app. Then there's GNOME's sound configuration, *also* available in > the GNOME control panel, which would seem to control sounds for different > events. > > I may be wrong, or you may have already pursued these roads... > > noah > > On Thu, 28 Sep 2000, Jonathan Markevich wrote: > > > I just want to get rid of *some* of the sounds, but it's determined to have > > all or none. -- Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.geocities.com/jmarkevich == It's VIRUSES, not VIRII! See http://language.perl.com/misc/virus.html == Given its constituency, the only thing I expect to be "open" about [the Open Software Foundation] is its mouth. -- John Gilmore
Re: Gnome sounds
On Thu, Sep 28, 2000 at 09:12:18PM +0200, Haight Ashbury wrote: I just want to get rid of *some* of the sounds, but it's determined to have all or none. > look at your soundmixer (under 'multimedia') and uncheck 'PCM'. That worked > for > me to get rid of those sounds that sounds cool at first and annoying later. > > Am Don, 28 Sep 2000 bereicherte Jonathan Markevich uns mit folgender > Nachricht: > > Question about Gnome for all... does anyone know how to have NO sound for > > common things like opening and closing windows? I want it for login and out > > and more notable things, but since my sound card makes a POP whenever it > > plays a sound, this is really too much. > > > > I tried putting a blank entry in the configurator but it replaces it with > > the defaults. -- Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.geocities.com/jmarkevich == It's VIRUSES, not VIRII! See http://language.perl.com/misc/virus.html ==
Gnome sounds
Question about Gnome for all... does anyone know how to have NO sound for common things like opening and closing windows? I want it for login and out and more notable things, but since my sound card makes a POP whenever it plays a sound, this is really too much. I tried putting a blank entry in the configurator but it replaces it with the defaults. Thanks. -- Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.geocities.com/jmarkevich == It's VIRUSES, not VIRII! See http://language.perl.com/misc/virus.html == If at first you don't succeed, you must be a programmer.
Re: Begone, vile emacs!
Well, for those following the thread, emacs is now gone. I installed emacs19 and purged it. It was only a 6MB download over a 56k dial-up of a package that I didn't want, but hey! Thanks for all your help. -- Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.geocities.com/jmarkevich == It's VIRUSES, not VIRII! See http://language.perl.com/misc/virus.html == Only two of my personalities are schizophrenic, but one of them is paranoid and the other one is out to get him.
Re: Begone, vile emacs!
On Mon, Sep 18, 2000 at 05:42:28PM -0400, Paul D. Smith wrote: > >> why not dpkg -l emacs ? > > jm> un emacs (no description available) > > It's probably "emacs19" or "emacs20", or one of the xemacs varieties. Neither! It's really strange. > The simplest way to find out what package a particuler file belongs to > is with dpkg -S; try something like: > > $ dpkg -S bin/emacs Not there either. I've decided to *install* emacs (19, I believe, from my locate database) and then PURGE the fiend. Please don't turn me in to the joe user's emacs resistance... > "Please remain calm...I may be mad, but I am a professional." --Mad Scientist ... dot com. (The domain is available for E-mail forwarding from mail.com) (Great .sig... And I just noticed mine... ahh, Espy...) -- Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.geocities.com/jmarkevich == It's VIRUSES, not VIRII! See http://language.perl.com/misc/virus.html == tomorrow there will be a great disturbance in the workforce -- May 18, 1999
Re: Begone, vile emacs!
On Mon, Sep 18, 2000 at 07:22:38PM +0200, Moritz Schulte wrote: > On Mon, Sep 18, 2000 at 07:51:29AM -0400, Jonathan Markevich wrote: > > > bash-2.03$ dpkg -S `which emacs` > > dpkg: /usr/bin/emacs not found. > > > > What package do I have to purge? > > $ dpkg -S /usr/bin/emacs > dpkg: /usr/bin/emacs not found. Perhaps I'm misunderstanding that... > $ ls -l /usr/bin/emacs > lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 23 Aug 19 20:50 /usr/bin/emacs > -> /etc/alternatives/emacs* Not here... bash-2.03$ ls -l /usr/bin/emacs -rwxr-xr-x1 root root 1811332 Dec 18 1999 /usr/bin/emacs > $ ls -l /etc/alternatives/emacs > lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 16 Aug 19 22:25 > /etc/alternatives/emacs -> /usr/bin/emacs20* Not here either... bash-2.03$ ls -l /etc/alternatives/emacs ls: /etc/alternatives/emacs: No such file or directory > $ dpkg -S /usr/bin/emacs20 > emacs20: /usr/bin/emacs20 And of course, this won't work, since there's nothing emacs related on my system, according to dpkg and apt, of course. Somehow, emacs slipped on -- and it must have been Debian related, since it shows up in the Gnome menu... If I blow it away, what else is related? Just .el files? I'm really messing up my database here, aren't I? -- Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.geocities.com/jmarkevich == It's VIRUSES, not VIRII! See http://language.perl.com/misc/virus.html == There is only one way to console a widow. But remember the risk. -- Robert Heinlein
Re: Begone, vile emacs!
On Mon, Sep 18, 2000 at 09:02:23AM -0700, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: > > I discovered emacs is on my system, and I don't particularly want it there. > > I have no idea how it got there either, and it's probably taking up a > > healthy amount of disk space. Here's some interesting stats... > > > > bash-2.03$ dpkg -S `which emacs` > > dpkg: /usr/bin/emacs not found. > > why not dpkg -l emacs ? un emacs (no description available) > or better yet, dselect. Never thought I'd hear someone say that! :) I also tried apt-get remove emacs* but it didn't help. No it's not a symlink either. I'm tempted just to blow it away and all .el files... Long live joe! :) -- Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.geocities.com/jmarkevich == It's VIRUSES, not VIRII! See http://language.perl.com/misc/virus.html == "Oh, I've seen copies [of Linux Journal] around the terminal room at The Labs." (By Dennis Ritchie)
Begone, vile emacs!
I figured that title would get your attention... :) I discovered emacs is on my system, and I don't particularly want it there. I have no idea how it got there either, and it's probably taking up a healthy amount of disk space. Here's some interesting stats... bash-2.03$ dpkg -S `which emacs` dpkg: /usr/bin/emacs not found. What package do I have to purge? Is there some other obscure tool for finding files in packages? Who put it there? -- Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.geocities.com/jmarkevich == It's VIRUSES, not VIRII! See http://language.perl.com/misc/virus.html == Today is the last day of the first part of your life.
Re: Free X Server for WinDos
> > > > > The subject says it all. I found MI/X, but that seems not to be free > > > > > anymore. Isn't there anything that's good *and* free? > > > > > > > > An older version of MI/X? > > > > > > Try VNC rather than X, unless you're trying to locally serve X apps. > > > > Or if you want to be multiuser. IIRC, vncserver will serve the current > > display, right? > > See other followups. Actually, if you had locally served X apps, you > could display them to the remote (Linux) VNC session, then display them > locally via VNC viewer. Remember: X is a networked windowing system > . Man, I have GOT to try this... I experimented quite a bit with the Win32 server (see my ludicrous experimentation at http://www.geocities.com/jmarkevich/doorstop.html). Man, after using Linux for pushing 7 years I keep forgetting how *cool* it really is. -- Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.geocities.com/jmarkevich == It's VIRUSES, not VIRII! See http://language.perl.com/misc/virus.html == An idealist is one who helps the other fellow to make a profit. -- Henry Ford
Re: Free X Server for WinDos
On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 06:03:38PM -0700, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote: > > > The subject says it all. I found MI/X, but that seems not to be free > > > anymore. Isn't there anything that's good *and* free? > > > > An older version of MI/X? > > Try VNC rather than X, unless you're trying to locally serve X apps. Or if you want to be multiuser. IIRC, vncserver will serve the current display, right? -- Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.geocities.com/jmarkevich == It's VIRUSES, not VIRII! See http://language.perl.com/misc/virus.html == Speak softly and own a big, mean Doberman. -- Dave Millman
Re: Free X Server for WinDos
On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 07:05:32PM +0200, Sven Burgener wrote: > The subject says it all. I found MI/X, but that seems not to be free > anymore. Isn't there anything that's good *and* free? An older version of MI/X? > Anyone share some experiences? I haven't had tremendous experience, but StarNet has X-Win32 for sale ($100?)... the demo runs for 2 hours, the way I'd use it is definitely under the two hour limit. It is a much nicer display than MI/X anyways. -- Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.geocities.com/jmarkevich == It's VIRUSES, not VIRII! See http://language.perl.com/misc/virus.html == On-line, adj.: The idea that a human being should always be accessible to a computer.
Re: Wine 20000801
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 05:05:48PM -0400, Richard Black wrote: > I have just upgrade to wine (my first upgrade of wine for some time). > I've run into a couple of problems. The first one was: > > shared libraries: libwine_unicode.so: cannot open shared object file: No > such file or directory > > which was readily fixed by adding /usr/lib/wine to my > LD_LIBRARY_PATH variable. However, after this, wine just hangs whenever > I try and use it (it will print out the version number and help screen > though) > > Does anyone else have this problem? Yes, I had it, I added a line to my /etc/ld.so.conf file and reran ldconfig. That worked fine. I used to have big problems with the font cache, try going to your ~/.wine directory and deleting the font cache files (it should be obvious). I've used newer ones since (0829 is the one I think I'm using right now, I get it from www.hungrycats.org/~drunkard) Let me know if it works. -- Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.geocities.com/jmarkevich == It's VIRUSES, not VIRII! See http://language.perl.com/misc/virus.html == Don't plan any hasty moves. You'll be evicted soon anyway.
Re: Wine 20000801
On Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 04:24:22AM +, Frank Copeland wrote: > However, the libwine .deb is missing an essential library file, so it > won't work anyway. For now your best bet is probably to stick with the > wine released with potato. libwine_unicode.so.*? Not missing, just in a different spot. I had a hard time tracking this one down. It's in /usr/share/wine/lib. -- Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.geocities.com/jmarkevich == It's VIRUSES, not VIRII! See http://language.perl.com/misc/virus.html == Money is the root of all evil, and man needs roots.
Re: Netscape startup hangs
That's exactly it! It doesn't happen until it realizes there's an interface, though, so if my dialup link is down, it doesn't happen, but if I introduce a network card into the mix, and gateway through that, then it grabs that interface and holds it hostage until it gets a DNS lookup. I am on 2.2, have been for a while. I downloaded the tarball from Netscape, though... 4.73 (with Java OFF, that is!) The problem is I only have the one phone line, and diald has always been troublesome, and I need Netscape for things like my wife's mail, and reading HTML, as well as configuring the crazy router itself! On Thu, Aug 24, 2000 at 05:27:54PM -0700, Nate Amsden wrote: > I haven't been following this thread, so i gotta ask exactly where does > it hang? I have had many netscape hangs right after you click the first > time and it tries to load the "start" page. What happens in most cases > is netscape goes out to try to resolve 5 or 6 various domain > names(*.netscape.com stuff mostly) to test to make sure your DNS is > working, and it can hang there(sometimes for minutes). Even if your DNS > is working it still may hang, i suggest runnign strace on it to see. > > strace netscape > > i have had this kind of lockup for a lng time, but i don't remember > it happening ever since i moved to debian 2.2, it uses a different > versionof netscape(static motif ? i think), the generic one from > netscape.com for linux(the versions ive tried) had this problem, but > when using the static motif version(also when using netscape for solaris > or IRIX) i never had the problem. > > nate > > Jonathan Markevich wrote: > > > > Nope, remember there's no startup page... the box is empty and the radio > > button says Blank page. I also tried with localhost in there. > > > > On Thu, Aug 24, 2000 at 02:27:17PM -0700, Michael Smith wrote: > > > Fire up netscape, go to edit>preferences. Select navigator. There > > > should be an > > > option "Browser Starts With:" Set that to "Blank Page". You might have > > > to restart > > > netscape for it to take effect, but you have to restart it anyway (you > > > can go > > > file>new>browserwindow) to see if it worked. -- Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.geocities.com/jmarkevich == It's VIRUSES, not VIRII! See http://language.perl.com/misc/virus.html == I want the presidency so bad I can already taste the hors d'oeuvres.
Re: Netscape startup hangs
Nope, remember there's no startup page... the box is empty and the radio button says Blank page. I also tried with localhost in there. On Thu, Aug 24, 2000 at 02:27:17PM -0700, Michael Smith wrote: > Fire up netscape, go to edit>preferences. Select navigator. There should be > an > option "Browser Starts With:" Set that to "Blank Page". You might have to > restart > netscape for it to take effect, but you have to restart it anyway (you can go > file>new>browserwindow) to see if it worked. > > Jonathan Markevich wrote: > > > I'm trying to convert a spare old 486 into a freesco box (with diald), but > > the > > problem is; I would like to be able to launch Netscape to administer the > > thing (or read offline HTML pages) *without* dialing. Right now it hangs > > for a few minutes before it gives up and lets me use it. > > > > When I have this pointing directly to my modem, it's not a problem, it > > realizes there's no interface for it to use, so it lets me work with it > > offline, but when I enable a gateway through my NIC -- sigh. > > > > How can I prevent it from trying to hit (home.netscape.com? Or something > > like that?) the Internet until I'm good and ready? > > > > P.S. there is NO startup page set. -- Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.geocities.com/jmarkevich == It's VIRUSES, not VIRII! See http://language.perl.com/misc/virus.html == Football combines the two worst features of American life. It is violence punctuated by committee meetings. -- George F. Will, "Men At Work: The Craft of Baseball"
Netscape startup hangs
I'm trying to convert a spare old 486 into a freesco box (with diald), but the problem is; I would like to be able to launch Netscape to administer the thing (or read offline HTML pages) *without* dialing. Right now it hangs for a few minutes before it gives up and lets me use it. When I have this pointing directly to my modem, it's not a problem, it realizes there's no interface for it to use, so it lets me work with it offline, but when I enable a gateway through my NIC -- sigh. How can I prevent it from trying to hit (home.netscape.com? Or something like that?) the Internet until I'm good and ready? P.S. there is NO startup page set. Thanks in advance. -- Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.geocities.com/jmarkevich == It's VIRUSES, not VIRII! See http://language.perl.com/misc/virus.html == How you look depends on where you go.
Re: Compiling Galeon--SOLVED!
On Sat, Aug 12, 2000 at 04:37:44PM -0400, Thomas J. Hamman wrote: > I've finally gotten galeon to compile, and there was at least one other > person who was having difficulty with it, so I'm posting what I did. Me! :) > First, there's a new version of Galeon (0.7.2) which goes with Mozilla > M17; get it. Got it... > The quick way to get the headers, without having to > download the 20MB mozilla source and sit through hours > of compiling: download the mozilla development RPM from > http://people.redhat.com/blizzard/software/RPMS/i386/mozilla-devel-M17-2.i386.rpm Doesn't work. It always downloads as a corrupted rpm. I know RedHat upgraded RPM recently, could that be the problem? I'm using Potato; could it be related to a new RPM in Woody? > and make it a deb package with alien, then install the new deb with a > dpkg -i command. That puts the mozilla headers in /usr/include/mozilla. I'd appreciate getting a tarball of those... > After that, ./configure (no paramaters needed for configure), make, make > install, and it should all work (hopefully). Worked fine for me this > time. :) Or a tarball of that! I got the download of the Galeon binary in RPM format, but it segfaults... -- Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://members.xoom.com/JMarkevich == It's VIRUSES, not VIRII! See http://language.perl.com/misc/virus.html ==
Galeon, galeon, galeon
I was very tempted just to let it go, but I had to keep trying. There are a LOT more that just gtkmozembed.h missing, as some of you mentioned. I can't understand why this is so difficult... why not bundle all of the necessary mozilla headers, except that one, if it's such a difficult license problem?? Anyways, it's not your fault! Does anyone have it compiled, that I can download? Alternatively, can I get the Mozilla headers all tarred up from someone? The full mozilla download is kinda ridiculous for this task... Thanks. -- Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://members.xoom.com/JMarkevich == It's VIRUSES, not VIRII! See http://language.perl.com/misc/virus.html == Only that in you which is me can hear what I'm saying. -- Baba Ram Dass
More on compiling Galeon
I don't know if I missed it in the thread, but I can't figure out how to compile Galeon either. I have the Potato version of Mozilla installed (M16, I understand) but when I ./configure, I get configure: error: Could not find the gnomeConf.sh file that is generated by gnome-libs install "gnome-libs install?" Is that a command; or a process? I installed the libglade and gnome glade -dev libraries and it doesn't make a difference. Where is this file? -- Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://members.xoom.com/JMarkevich == It's VIRUSES, not VIRII! See http://language.perl.com/misc/virus.html == "The eleventh commandment was `Thou Shalt Compute' or `Thou Shalt Not Compute' -- I forget which." -- Epigrams in Programming, ACM SIGPLAN Sept. 1982
Wacom Graphire?
Has anyone used the Wacom Graphire tablet successfully? It would be a slick addition to Corel's PhotoPaint. I noticed there's a serial/PS2 connection available as well as the more common USB stuff. Does that make a difference (presuming, of course, that USB support is available)? Thanks all.
RE: free Internet access
However, we were discussing freewwweb before. I'm using it now... for temporary use, it's fine, other than that it's trash. I haven't been able to send out mail using SMTP for about two months now. NetZero has a Linux client now, though. I'm tempted to try it. Oh, and you might be interested in Freexdsl -- I don't know if it's Wingdings based or not... >= Original Message From Michalowski Thierry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> = >Well, >did you ever notice that you don't give us at least a clue of where you live? >Even your mail address is a .net, which doensn't help either. >So, I might say there is one cool ISP in Australia or in Switzerland and that >probably won't help you if you live in Argentina... > > >Jaye Inabnit ke6sls wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I recall many months ago that there was an ISP allowing linux users to >> use the free internet access as long as we set our "home" to there >> main page What was that provider? I need temporary access until >> I can find an affordabe DSL provider willing to provide a static IP. >> >> Thank you -- FREE e-mail at http://MailAndNews.com!
libggi-target-glide
What happened to libggi-target-glide? When I try to install it, it says it's in the database, but not available. I did do an update (frozen) and I believe I have the important sources.list stuff (main, contrib, non-us, non-free...) __ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/
Re: Getting free ISPs to work
--- Chris Gray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, May 30, 2000 at 04:48:16AM -0700, Jonathan Markevich wrote: > > > > As for Freewwweb, STAY AWAY. They have no clue how to run a SMTP > > server. I get ALL of my mail bounced back to me because they > don't > > have a record of valid dial-up IP assignments. (e.g. This > message was > > cut and pasted from a bounce and re-composed online.) > > Indeed. The way I work it is to have a real ISP which doesn't drop > packets going to port 25 and have a real mail account somewhere > other than > freewwweb. Then I use my freewwweb account(s) for general surfing > and > my real ISP for sending mail. Since my real ISP is free for 12 > hours a > month, I basically have free dial-up internet service with all the > amenities. Good luck. I use exim, and it's aggravatingly transparent. If I did dial up another provider, it would trand sieze the opportunity to mail anythng in the queue and, of course, get bounced as relaying. It's tempting me to switch to another MTA, I tell ya. Everyone on the debian-user list should send Freewwweb a mail message saying they heard how awful their support is, and they are another lost customer. Heh heh... distributed spamming... I need to find one of those 12 hour freebie accounts. __ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/
Re: [Good News] printer driver for HP/Canon/Epson printers...
--- Jeronimo Pellegrini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This is what I would like to know about. There are half-baked > > instructions about how someone got it working on Debian, but all > he > > says is "I'll mail you [i.e. the README writer] the details > later" > > In the source tree, read Ghost/README. The instructions for Debian > include getting gs-aladdin source, patching and recompiling. Yep, read them. The part I'm missing is something about a Debian RULES file. (Of course I know Debian RULES. I need specifics.) What I need is the part he intended to mail later. __ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/
Re: Getting free ISPs to work
> I just subscribed to this list about five minutes ago, because I need to get > a free ISP account going under my Debian Slink. I don't care who it's with > (excite, xoom, etc), as long as I can get it to work. I think the problem is > that I need the DNS nameservers (or at least with PPPconfig). Please, if you > could give some help, that would make my day. Freewwweb is the only one I know of that will work on a Non-Windows box. Of course, I have an evil plan involving proxying through a 486 running Wingdings. See screenshot(s) at http://members.xoom.com/JMarkevich/doorstop.html I don't recommend trying this on a full stomach, by the way... it sure is a lot of fun though. As for Freewwweb, STAY AWAY. They have no clue how to run a SMTP server. I get ALL of my mail bounced back to me because they don't have a record of valid dial-up IP assignments. (e.g. This message was cut and pasted from a bounce and re-composed online.) __ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/
Re: [Good News] printer driver for HP/Canon/Epson printers...
On Sat, May 27, 2000 at 07:08:47PM -0300, Jeronimo Pellegrini wrote: How did you install the thing? I mean the Ghostscript driver... I rarely use Gimp, and never to print, but I'd like to print out some highlights and stuff from documents on my Stylus Photo 700. > some time ago I began to look for a good driver for my Epson Stylus > Color 850. After some time, I found a nice new driver (the > Gimp-Print). Dithering is really good, quality is close to that of > the Epson driver. Also, for a few printers, it seems that it'll do > some tricks to print at a higher resolution than the supposed > maximum (The Epson 850 goes from 1440x720 to 2880x720!) > But it will pring images only (a ghostscript driver is also being > developed). This is what I would like to know about. There are half-baked instructions about how someone got it working on Debian, but all he says is "I'll mail you [i.e. the README writer] the details later" > http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net/ > > It's still under development, but I think there's a stable version > (I'm using the CVS version, and it's working just fine). > > By the way... They need volunteers to print test pages. :-) Sign me up!!! (Or point me to where!) __ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/
KDE with another WM?
Something tells me I saw an option to use an alternate WM with KDE... is it possible? Where did I see that? I'd like to use Sawmill for it's lightness... -- Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://members.xoom.com/JMarkevich If you drink, don't park. Accidents make people.
Gimp-print plugin + ghostscript?
Has anyone compiled the ghostscript driver included with gimp-print? There are vague incomplete instructions for doing it on a Debian system, but I don't know enough to surmise the rest. I'd love to NEVER have to reboot to use my Epson Photo 700... -- Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://members.xoom.com/JMarkevich This will be a memorable month -- no matter how hard you try to forget it.
Re: bigots - was Emacs - was Mail/news software
On Fri, May 12, 2000 at 08:44:35AM +0700, Oki DZ wrote: > > I'm not against thinking, don't get me wrong. I actually *program* for > > fun. > > I just like to focus my mental energies. i.e. why mount; cp; umount when I > > can mcopy? Why type: > > > > mv ~/Mail/Debian ~/Mail/Debian-`date +%Y%m%d` > > > > every single day when I can stick it in an alias or a shell script? > > Script-writing needs some sort of thinking, right...? That's part of my point. The other part is; script RUNNING doesn't demand thinking. To be honest, It was also a bit of showing off, that I DO know how to use the command line, and actually like it. :) > > An OS should get out of the way,and not demand anything of you. > > If you use Mac OS 7.x, 8.x, and even 9.x and if you need to get to the > shell, the OS will get you in the way; the same for any other OSes that > have "weak" shells. That's another angle; I have a Mac Plus, and I don't find it too bad, you know? The only time there's a limitation is when you want to do simple automation, or write your own stuff. Forget the niceties of the Unix toolbox... I call Windows a 'weak' shell, since the system isn't really designed for a shell. It just doesn't extend to the core. (I mean, file extensions. Let's be realistic! Pure trash!) Back to the Mac, you might be surprised to know how many internal and external similarities there are between the early Macs and the Palm [Pilot]. It's practically the same machine; and I NEVER had an occasion to want to get to a shell on my Palm. > I don't think that doing the hard way would be the solution to all > computing problems. All I want to say is that having things get automated > (click & drag) without having a possibility to get to "under the hood" > would lead you into the "non-thinking-mode." In the long run, you'd be a > clueless person. It happened to me; long ago I was a Mac user, and I > thought that I needed something more interesting than just a nice GUI. Ah, then you know the Mac thing. I think it's important to have both; Critical, in fact. Otherwise, the bigotry that our illustrative olvwm users had would never have allowed something like GNOME... I do think GNOME is a brilliant piece of work; so is KDE, but I don't think it's for me... > ps: BTW, why did you send your email to my address only? I believe that we > had the conversation on the list. I wasn't interested in a flamewar... my intention was to say one thing then park it. When I realized your comment was to both, I wished I posted it there too! I think the best comment over the emacs thing was; someone said "it's not an editor, it's a virtual machine" Now that makes great sense! Now someone needs to come up with something as clever to explain vi... :) -- Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://members.xoom.com/JMarkevich Fuch's Warning: If you actually look like your passport photo, you aren't well enough to travel.
Linux as a proxy client?
I'm getting really tired of Freewwweb, they're quite inept at managing a SMTP server. I thought of trying a Windows-based free ISP, by using an old 486 and configuring IT as a Win-based proxy. It's not clear, however, how I should point things like exim through a proxy? Is it possible? I know it's anathema, but bear with me __ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/
Re: Anybody running Wordperfect 8 on potato?
On Mon, May 08, 2000 at 01:18:25PM +0200, Johann Spies wrote: > > > I had Wordperfect running without problem on my Slink system. > > > However, since I upgraded partially to potato, Wordperfect segfaults. > > > I have tried reinstalling the slink xpm4.7, but without any solution > > > to my problem. > > > > > I don't know what's wrong; we have WP8 on slink (w/ xlib6, xpm4.7), > > potato, and woody. Maybe you should re-install WP? > > I have tried that already :( > > Thanks anyhow. Have you tried installing xpm4g? I have it working here... -- Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://members.xoom.com/JMarkevich The true Southern watermelon is a boon apart, and not to be mentioned with commoner things. It is chief of the world's luxuries, king by the grace of God over all the fruits of the earth. When one has tasted it, he knows what the angels eat. It was not a Southern watermelon that Eve took; we know it because she repented. -- Mark Twain, "Pudd'nhead Wilson's Calendar"
Re: bigots - was Emacs - was Mail/news software
On Sun, Apr 30, 2000 at 02:13:19PM +0100, Phillip Deackes wrote: Let me begin by saying I don't plan to prolong this thread after saying my piece. Insert smilie here. I don't like the reaction from most sides about this. It bodes ill for Linux -- for free software users in general. Let's start at the beginning: > I am very sorry if I offend, but I find emacs/xemacs about the most > off-putting thing in Linux. Show a newbie that and you will see the dust > as he turns and runs back to the Windows camp. Personally, I agree. The issue brought up was not one of "is Emacs powerful" or "is emacs 'intuitive'" but "is emacs useful to a newbie? Once again, personally, I can't stand the thing, and I'm definitely not a newbie. It's an EDITOR, not an OS... the last thing I want is a M$-Word for editing my sources.list. I love joe since it's powerful, has many faces, is fast and lean, and if I forget a keystroke I can ^KH to find it. Oh yeah, you can type "jmacs" if you have the time to learn the commands. I also break out in boils when vi is on the hard drive. It reminds me of ~three years ago the 313373 unix bigots said "Who needs KDE, I use sed to modify my olvwm config file." Now they say they run GNOME... I can't help but think MAYBE they're using their skills a bit more productively; instead of writing impossible shell commands to make a titlebar on an xterm, they pop open a gterminal and get coding. OK, maybe xemacs. The point is; some of us don't want to load a browser and a news client and a "doctor" game to write an e-mail message. We'd rather work the *nix "toolbox" way. Just realize that and don't condemn us for that, and on the larger scale, realize that something like pico is *good for Linux*... Perl wizards may not want to learn the editor language and the programming language at the same time! We may end up with some darn useful Perl scripts. An OS to make you think? Who says that's its job? It's incendiary comments on a mailing list that make you think! When you are gonna be late for work and want to bring your mail on a floppy, you can't think, you want convenience. Allow you to think about what you need to think about. Now THAT's more of an OS job... Thanks for the pedestal. Back to lurk mode. -- Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://members.xoom.com/JMarkevich
Re: Mail/news software
On Sat, Apr 29, 2000 at 05:05:38PM +0200, Kovacs Istvan wrote: > The ideal software would be able to handle both mail and news in an > integrated manner, place incoming and outgoing messages into folders > > YARN, when used in combination with a SOUP package handler, is much > like that (except for the GUI/multi-window part), but I haven't seen a > Linux version. I know I used a Linux version of YARN about two or three years ago, look around. I know it was a handly & lightweight packet reader! -- Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://members.xoom.com/JMarkevich Go ahead, capitalize the T on technology, deify it if it will make you feel less responsible -- but it puts you in with the neutered, brother, in with the eunuchs keeping the harem of our stolen Earth for the numb and joyless hardons of human sultans, human elite with no right at all to be where they are --" -- Thomas Pynchon, _Gravity's Rainbow_
Re: Was WordPerfect Opinions?--Now FreeWWWeb
This is why! Grr... debian-user@lists.debian.org: SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO:: host smtp.smartworld.net [216.70.64.25]: 550 ... Relaying denied [EMAIL PROTECTED]: SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: host smtp.smartworld.net [216.70.64.25]: 550 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... Relaying denied -- This is a copy of the message, including all the headers. -- Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Received: from jonathan by fennywood with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 12fqxc-0002MM-00; Thu, 13 Apr 2000 17:15:36 -0400 Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 17:15:35 -0400 From: Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Robert Kerr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Was WordPerfect Opinions?--Now FreeWWWeb Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; from "Robert Kerr" on Thu, Apr 13, 2000 at 11:21:34AM X-Uptime: 5:12pm up 2 days, 17:19, 5 users, load average: 1.15, 0.63, 0.24 Sender: Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Thu, Apr 13, 2000 at 11:21:34AM -0600, Robert Kerr wrote: > On Thu, 13 Apr 2000, Jonathan Markevich wrote: > > > Sorry, I have to manually respond through Yahoo because Freewwweb is > > RETARDED. Thus, no true "reply" > > > > What do you mean no true "reply"? Hope this gets out... I can't hit "reply" because their SMTP servers and DHCP servers are criminally out of sync. It rejects about 40% of the IP addresses I dial up to. Most of my mail bounces. I do NOT recommend them for Linux users yet. Wait, we'll see if I *really* bad-mouth them... :) -- Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://members.xoom.com/JMarkevich __ Do You Yahoo!? Send online invitations with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com
Re: WordPerfect Office 2000: Opinions?
> Has anyone tried WordPerfect Office 2000? I have three days to > decide or lose a $15 discount. I am using 8 download edition and > am relatively happy, but it's obviously missing some useful > features like templates and a manual. It's okay. Very buggy, but with more features, including some that are actually useful (e.g. in WP9 they've brought back "Print Preview". I haven't tried any apps other than WP9. Sorry, I have to manually respond through Yahoo because Freewwweb is RETARDED. Thus, no true "reply" >> Is it slow? >Yes, but it's faster than StarOffice. Excellent! On what sort of machine? >> Or am I better off getting the commercial version of 8? >Do you need a spreadsheet? A presentation program? Not really and no, never. Will those make the difference? __ Do You Yahoo!? Send online invitations with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com
WordPerfect Office 2000 - Opinions?
Has anyone tried WordPerfect Office 2000? I have three days to decide or lose a $15 discount. I am using 8 download edition and am relatively happy, but it's obviously missing some useful features like templates and a manual. Is it slow? It's Wine-based, does that introduce compatibility issues -- like will upgrading WINE kill WP? Or am I better off getting the commercial version of 8? __ Do You Yahoo!? Send online invitations with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com
IceWM in Gnome
I got IceWM and Gnome to play together nicely, after a lot of waiting and updating... one thing that bugs me is that it keeps creating windows at the 0,0 coordinate, right on top of my panel. Any ideas how to make smart placement, uh, smarter?? Thanks. -- Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://members.xoom.com/JMarkevich What this country needs is a good five cent ANYTHING!
Re: Unresolved symbols potato and kernel 2.0.36
rustration still exist. The Linux community needs to do something to make it easier and less of a constant fight for folks. I try to help all I can (search for my posts) but there's obviously still something lacking. Maybe I need to work on a HOWTO (though I need the information from somewhere)! Let me again assure you; I have no reason or intent to insult you, my computer, on the other hand has some strong words coming. Always does, come to think of it... -- Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://members.xoom.com/JMarkevich
Re: Unresolved symbols potato and kernel 2.0.36
On Mon, Mar 20, 2000 at 02:12:33PM +0100, Antonio Fiol Bonnín wrote: > I don't know nearly anything about this, but... did you activate module > support in your kernel? It sounds like there has to be such a silly little > thing that breaks it all. No kidding, that's what I'm hoping for. And yes, I did. > If you compile the kernel properly (at least it happened ok to me when I > had 2.0.36), i.e. (make dep; make clean; make zImage(or other); make > modules) and then reboot and (make modules-install), as far as I remember, > that should solve it all. Though I imagine you already tried that. Hmm, reboot then modules_install. I don't remember if I tried that one. > Last little thing I imagine that could mess it up is that you try to load > some modules that really do not exist, as they have not been compiled. > It's maybe a lot of work if you have 40 messages, but could you check for > the existence of the files it looks for (I remember having trouble with my > ethernet, and it was simply because I had forgotten to put an M on the > right place.) I trashed ALSA and compiled in the drivers. I'm not happy about that, but what can I do? The only resolution I found. Thanks for your response. -- Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://members.xoom.com/JMarkevich QOTD: All I want is more than my fair share.
Re: Last chance: unresolved symbols and depmod weirdness
On Mon, Mar 20, 2000 at 02:00:52PM +0100, Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: > > I recompiled a 2.0.36 kernel, of course I had to use gcc 2.72. I copied > > System.map all over known creation, made modules_install did depmod and ... > > just an idea: did you a "make dep clean" before "make install etc." when > making the kernel? Yep. > and why depmod makes such weird things ... > run "rm /lib/modules/2.0.36/modules.dep" - possibly it's write-protected > or such thing. I did that and it puts back the weird one. Correction: it IS stamped 5 hours older than whenever it is created (boot). I am at GMT -500 but this seems backward for me... What's up??? I *have* to mark it read-only (immutable) to avoid the errors! > your question, why all the geniuses are silent: we don't have your system > in front of us. give a root login to somebody you trust and your problem > will probably be fixed within minutes. we (mostly) are no clairvoyants. I don't expect people to fix my problem, but something as simple as matching modules and a kernel compiled at the same time from the same source...? Don't tell me no one has ever done THAT... Anyways, I did get much better response today (Hmm, monday...) and I thank you all. -- Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://members.xoom.com/JMarkevich "[In 'Doctor' mode], I spent a good ten minutes telling Emacs what I thought of it. (The response was, 'Perhaps you could try to be less abusive.')" (By Matt Welsh)
Re: Unresolved symbols potato and kernel 2.0.36
> Don't upgrade unless you have to. I always have to remind myself of that > - if my machine is working and I can do the tasks I need to do, even > though there is a new fangled a super-cool version of my software, I don't > have to install it. I still need to remind myself. It's not just super-cool versions, it's thing like UDMA support for my drive. It's so I can hook up a parallel port zip drive to the thing. Wine that will run the programs I need, and so on. > First, is sounds to me like you are using stock debian kernels. I don't > know if it is true, but it would not surprise me if the Potato kernel is > not set to deal with sound modules. I always think compiling your own Well I have to use 2.0.36. 2.2 doesn't work for me, remember? And I use stock kernels because it avoids another level of confusion and troubleshooting in situations like this. I mean, why should I have unresolved symbols when I am using a stock kernel? And why does all of a sudden a list full of geniuses go completely silent? Grr. > kernel is a good idea (you learn a lot about your computer and about > linux), but others have differing opinions. Oh, and yes, shared IRQs are > impossible. At least, I don't think Linux can deal with that setup. But, > any linux kernel can deal with any number of serial ports if properly > configured. Again, this gets back to building your own kernel. No they're not impossible. I am using it on 2.0.36. COM 1 and COM 3 (DOS) are by *default* a shared interrupt. With olny two interrupts assigned to serial ports you have to do some fancy footwork. If I do compile my own kernel (tried with a 2.2.14 one, no help) it doesn't solve the problem. > The 'unresolved symbols' warnings have to do with module dependencies. > Did you run 'depmod' after compiling and installing your sound modules? Yup. Also update-modules. > You can try to insert the modules by hand using 'insmod', and when you run > into troubles, you will at least know where you are in the process - which > modules is not configured correctly or missing. Same errors. It doesn't just give me *an* error, it gives me about 40. > I wish I could help more. > > There should be a modules howto > > Maybe I should write one. As soon as I figure them out. I don't think this is a modules thing, it's a kernel thing (very slight difference, I guess) but more importantly, it's a support thing. So far this much-acclaimed Linux community has proven to be a bunch of the proverbial blind men. I've been using Linux for about 5 years now, through all sorts of grief and struggles, and it's just not getting much better. What are the advantages of Debian again? I have a Slackware 96 CD here that also runs kernel 2.0! Wow! Cool! Like I said, I have maybe an hour a day to spend on this; and all I do is "patch the dam" Sorry for the misery all, but it's really frustrating and so far no way out. And thanks for your response, I'm glad SOMEONE is out there. -- Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://members.xoom.com/JMarkevich You will gain money by a fattening action.
Last chance: unresolved symbols and depmod weirdness
Last chance to help me before I reformat the blasted thing and reinstall Slink (I will probably NEVER install potato, so far it's a piece of, well you know...) I recompiled a 2.0.36 kernel, of course I had to use gcc 2.72. I copied System.map all over known creation, made modules_install did depmod and update-modules, everything seemed fine, until I reboot. Now I get 7 BAZILLION unresolved symbol references. I figured it's crufty, right? So I blew away the modules directory for 2.0.36, redid make modules_install and reboot. Now no matter how much I depmod, it replaces the modules.dep with some old version (from where??? It's about 5 and a half hours old -- I was nowhere near my machine at that time; and it doesn't correlate to any kind of UTC time or anything like that) and complains about what it just did. (it says "You FOOL! /etc/modules.conf is more recent than /lib/modules/2.0.36/modules.dep!") Finally I ran depmod, then did chattr +i modules.dep on the stupid thing. Before I rebooted they were the exact same time. Please tell me I'm a moron and I'm clearly not running *command x*. Please tell me something... It's getting so blowing the thing away and reinstalling takes less time and frustration. Help! -- Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://members.xoom.com/JMarkevich I'm not denyin' the women are foolish: God Almighty made 'em to match the men. -- George Eliot
Unresolved symbols potato and kernel 2.0.36
I suppose it's the height of naivite to expect an answer about Debian around here, but here goes... Once again... I upgraded to Potato. Yes, stupid, but I'm really really tired of waiting. The upgrade thought it a great idea to remove my working alsa-modules package and replace it with... NOTHING! Poof, perfectly good sound is out there, somewhere. So I have tried to replace it... reinstalling, trying other kernel versions (including this new-fangled kernel 2.2.x thing which is apparently the greatest thing since sliced bread, but won't run on a computer with THREE SERIAL PORTS!!! Ever heard of a machine so unusual? I mean a shared IRQ that's like, IMPOSSIBLE isn't it??) I tried recompiling my old drivers, 0.3.pre4 something, and could only do that if I installed gcc272 as well, and actually got them compiled. Now I come to the subject line. I have over a screenful of depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.0.36/misc/isapnp.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.0.36/misc/persist.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.0.36/misc/snd-ac97-codec.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.0.36/misc/snd-ad1848.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.0.36/misc/snd-audiodrive1688.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.0.36/misc/snd-audiodrive18xx.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.0.36/misc/snd-audiopci.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.0.36/misc/snd-card-ad1848.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.0.36/misc/snd-card-cs4231.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.0.36/misc/snd-card-cs4232.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.0.36/misc/snd-cs4231.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.0.36/misc/snd-card-cs4236.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.0.36/misc/snd-cs4236.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.0.36/misc/snd-detect.o ... and so on. How on the planet do I resolve them? Yes, they're all the alsa modules, so what? How do I fix this? I have a very limited time to hack and I don't like spending 4 hours fixing something that was working fine. Thanks for bearing with me in my misery, and please, give SOME indication that someone is out there that has done this before??? -- Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://members.xoom.com/JMarkevich There is no grief which time does not lessen and soften.
Potato + wdm broke my kdm!
Along with my update, I removed wdm; yet I had kdm working after potato... I rebooted to try a new kernel (see my other message) and now I can's get kdm working again! I don't like wdm very much... When I start kdm from init.d... I get something like : Checking for X setup... unable to check! and it dies. I'd give you the exact message, but I'm in X right now, and, you get the picture... Why is it unable to check?? xdm and wdm work fine... Thanks. -- Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://members.xoom.com/JMarkevich There's nothing very mysterious about you, except that nobody really knows your origin, purpose, or destination.
Kernel 2.2 and serial port setup
Well I upgraded, finally. And the kernel can't locate all my serial ports for some reason. I have this (from dmesg): ttyS00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A ttyS01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A ttyS02 at 0x03e8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A 00 is my mouse, 01 is my modem and 02 is my Palm Pilot cradle. 00 and 01 work fine, but 02 won't admit it's there. My serial.conf locates them all... /dev/ttyS0 uart 16550A port 0x03f8 irq 4 baud_base 115200 spd_normal skip_test /dev/ttyS1 uart 16550A port 0x02f8 irq 3 baud_base 115200 spd_normal skip_test /dev/ttyS2 uart 16550A port 0x03e8 irq 4 baud_base 115200 spd_normal but /etc/init.d/setserial reports /dev/ttyS0 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A /dev/ttyS1 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A /dev/ttyS2: Device or resource busy /dev/ttyS2: Device or resource busy Kernel 2.0.38 works fine. Can 2.2 not handle shared interrupts? Once I get this sorted out I have to tackle ALSA yet... (sigh, progress) -- Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://members.xoom.com/JMarkevich "Creation science" has not entered the curriculum for a reason so simple and so basic that we often forget to mention it: because it is false, and because good teachers understand exactly why it is false. What could be more destructive of that most fragile yet most precious commodity in our entire intellectualy heritage -- good teaching -- than a bill forcing honorable teachers to sully their sacred trust by granting equal treatment to a doctrine not only known to be false, but calculated to undermine any general understanding of science as an enterprise? -- Stephen Jay Gould, "The Skeptical Inquirer", Vol. 12, page 186
Re: Free Internet connection
On Thu, Mar 16, 2000 at 08:10:01PM -0500, Antonio Rodriguez wrote: > Does anybody know how to connect to the free ISP-s from Debian boxes? I > want to drop my AT&T account, but I am not sure that it will work, since > most of the free ISP say in their requirements windows. I have been > considering BlueLight (yahoo). Any ideas? I'm using Freewwweb successfully. It's quite busy but it works very well. Zero banner programs! They just want you to set your home page to home.freewwweb.com which is quite nice. I even used it on my mac plus! -- Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://members.xoom.com/JMarkevich We are not loved by our friends for what we are; rather, we are loved in spite of what we are. -- Victor Hugo
What packages for Mesa and Voodoo 1?
I tried installing all of the Mesa and Glide stuff to get my Monster 3D card working with Mesa, but it didn't seem to work. XRacer runs at about .1 fps and none of the MESA_GLX_FX environment variable stuff will work with any OpenGL stuff like Xmms or screensavers. Does anyone have a list of required packages to get the thing working? I have some, I know, if you give me some names I'll have something to grep. Thanks. -- Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://members.xoom.com/JMarkevich
WindowMaker menus are all gone!
I installed potato's windowmaker last night, and it worked fine until I stepped through the configuration boxes. When it got to the menu one, it complained that all of the applications were wrong, or something like that... so it promptly deleted the menus. I have purged and reinstalled it a few times and can't get the menus back! How do I do so??? Thanks. -- Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://members.xoom.com/JMarkevich
pgaccess in frozen
I upgraded PostgreSQL to the potato version, and lost pgaccess. Oh well,
it's broken out into another package, right? Fine. I apt-get installed
that.
Now it won't run at all. It gives me:
invalid command name "namespace"
while executing
"namespace eval Mainlib {
proc {cmd_Delete} {} {
global PgAcVar CurrentDB
if {$CurrentDB==""} return;
set objtodelete [get_dwlb_Selection]
if {$objtod ..."
(file "/usr/lib/postgresql/pgaccess/lib/mainlib.tcl" line 1)
invoked from within
"source [file join $PgAcVar(PGACCESS_HOME) lib $module.tcl]"
("foreach" body line 2)
invoked from within
"foreach module {mainlib database tables queries visualqb forms views
functions reports scripts users sequences schema help preferences} {
source [fi ..."
(procedure "init" line 5)
invoked from within
"init $argc $argv"
(file "/usr/lib/postgresql/pgaccess/main.tcl" line 244)
-
I noticed it installed tk and tcl 8.2. Could it have something to do with
the fact that tkstep is required for pgaccess -- and tkstep 8.0 is
installed? If so; it needs another dependency.
Any other ideas?
--
Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
http://members.xoom.com/JMarkevich
If it ain't baroque, don't phiques it.
KOffice debs anywhere?
Well, does anyone know anything about KOffice debs? I'd like to try out especially kword but it doesn't seem to be at kde.tdyc.com... Thanks. -- Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://members.xoom.com/JMarkevich I B M U B M We all B M For I B M -- H.A.R.L.I.E.
Epson Stylus Photo 700 WORKING!
I know everyone will be tickled to get me off their backs... I got the above printer going using *magicfilter* and not apsfilter. Of course, it's not perfect, it only uses 4 colors, but hey, it prints! I also used the potato version, the slink one wouldn't go. I love apt. It's as close to self-healing software as I have seen!
Epson Stylus Photo 700
I got one of the above printers and reinstalled apsfilter with the Ghostscript escp2 driver but can't print... I get an error in filter "f" or something like that... Let me cut to the chase... I need a printcap! Has anyone else here got one of these working? I read on Slashdot one fella got it working fine but was "Anonymous Coward" so I can't ask him... Sub-question: what's the right way to add & reconfigure printers without purging & reinstalling apsfilter? Thanks all...
Epson AGAIN
OK, more investigation... Ghostscript 5.10 doesn't seem to have the escp2 driver! (okok, that's what it was telling me.) I get this: Available devices: x11 x11alpha x11cmyk x11gray2 x11mono lvga256 vgalib t4693d2 t4693d4 t4693d8 tek4696 appledmp ccr lp2563 lbp8 lips3 m8510 necp6 cp50 oce9050 oki182 okiibm r4081 sj48 xes ln03 la50 la70 la75 la75plus sxlcrt deskjet djet500 laserjet ljetplus ljet2p ljet3 ljet4 declj250 paintjet pjetxl ljet4pjl cdeskjet cdjcolor cdjmono cdj550 cdj500 djet500c dnj650c pj pjxl pjxl300 cdj670 cdj850 cdj890 cdj1600 lex7000 hpdj uniprint epson eps9mid eps9high epsonc lq850 lp8000 st800 stcolor ap3250 ibmpro bj10e bj200 bjc600 bjc800 ljet3d lj4dith lj5mono lj5gray lj250 lj4dithp escp dj505j picty180 faxg3 faxg32d faxg4 dfaxhigh dfaxlow pcxmono pcxgray pcx16 pcx256 pcx24b pcxcmyk pbm pbmraw pgm pgmraw pgnm pgnmraw pnm pnmraw ppm ppmraw pkm pkmraw tiffcrle tiffg3 tiffg32d tiffg4 tifflzw tiffpack cif pr201 pr150 pr1000 pr1000_4 jj100 bmpmono bmp16 bmp256 bmp16m tiff12nc tiff24nc bj10v bj10vh mag16 mag256 dmprt psmono psgray bit bitrgb bitcmyk sgirgb mj700v2c mj500c mj6000c mj8000c fmpr fmlbp pngmono pnggray png16 png256 png16m cgmmono cgm8 cgm24 ml600 lbp310 lbp320 md50Mono md50Eco md1xMono md2k md5k jpeg jpeggray miff24 mgrmono mgrgray2 mgrgray4 mgrgray8 mgr4 mgr8 pdfwrite pswrite epswrite pxlmono pxlcolor nullpage Search path: . : /usr/lib/ghostscript/common : /usr/lib/ghostscript/5.10 : /usr/lib/ghostscript/5.10/kanji : /usr/lib/ghostscript/fonts Why does it prompt for a driver that's not available? In fact, NONE of the Stylus Color drivers appear to be available. Are they actually installed somewhere, or is there another package, or what??? This is bizarre. -- Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://members.xoom.com/JMarkevich
