Libranet to Sarge
Hi, I am new to this list and new to debian (but not linux). A few months ago, I installed woody on my laptop, but was disappointed in the shape the install left things. There were too many things left to configure manually. So, over the weekend, I wiped it and decided to try the free version of Libranet (2.0), basically for the installer, with plans to convert to sarge. The Libranet install went great, set up my network, sound, X, etc. reasonably well. Next, I changed my /etc/apt/sources.list to point to sarge instead of woody. Then, I did an apt-get install synaptic, then upgraded X to 4.2.1 and fixed up my X even better. Upgraded a few more things with synaptic. Wow, synaptic/apt-get rocks! Sorry about the long pre-amble...my question is if I do an apt-get upgrade, will I officially be converted to sarge, or is there more to it than that? I realize some of the Libranet stuff will be left over. By the way, is there some reason Debian can't adopt the Libranet installer and tweak it for the Debain defaults intead of the Libranet defaults? The installer is very nice. Best Regards, Keith -- LPIC-2, MCSE, N+ Wake up, baby, cause I'm coming to you from the future -- D Wyndorf Got spam? Get spastic http://spastic.sourceforge.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Nautilus
Hi, I find that I quite like Nautillus, even though I use it infrequently. I have, however, just recently started to have a problem with it that I can't seem to shake. When I open it, it tells me, one-by-one that the sidebar panels have encountered a problem and should be turned off. Also each of the various viewers encounter errors while starting up to view files This was a problem that came and went for a while, but now it is here all the time. I have deleted the various Nautillus files and directories in ~/ but still it persists. This is the Nautilus from Woody, so I was wondering if anyone can tell me if there is a file somewhere to edit or delete, or if this problem has arisen for others before? Keith. -- ___ _ Keith O'Connell. -o) Maidstone, Kent. (UK) /\\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] _\_v -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sniffing SSL (was OT: mod_ssl (apache) log entries -- wtf?)
Will Trillich wrote: but the odd part is, they didn't just come in from the top (first uri was not /). it reflects either a) the result of a prior drill-down or 2) an exact echo of my previous request, but somehow coming from outside in the internet. You may have already done this, but the first thing I would check is whether some interface somewhere on your LAN is misconfigured and set up as that MIT IP address. It seems unlikely that it's really coming from outside. As far as it being an echo: sometimes strange things can happen due to apache misconfiguration; like when the page references an image, but due to proxying, redirection, mod-perl handling, etc., apache wants to reload the page instead. Check out those style sheet references from the root, for example. Hmmm, makes me think the Apache machine itself may have that address configured somewhere... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Performance hit: symlinks
Keith G. Murphy wrote: Karsten M. Self wrote: By using symlinks, filehandle open to the old library will continue to work while they are open. Are you *sure* this is a reason to use symlinks? I really thought old libraries stuck around until all filehandles to them were closed anyway. I thought it was more that you don't want to just start overwriting the old library directly, because *new* opens by other programs might have a problem until the copy finishes. On the other hand, maybe the overwrite would try to do an exclusive lock on the library, and not work while the library was open by other programs. I'm not inclined to try on my system. :-) OK, you know I had to check it out. :-) I experimented with /usr/lib/libpcap.so.0.6.2, which is not used by much else on my system besides invocations of tcpdump (I hoped). # ls libpcap* -l -rw-r--r--1 root root libpcap.so.0.6.2 lrwxrwxrwx1 root root libpcap.so.0-libpcap.so.0.6.2 # mv libpcap.so.0.6.2 libpcap.sav tcpdump bombed because it couldn't find the library # cp libpcap.sav libpcap.so.0.6.2 tcpdump worked OK # rm libpcap.so.0 tcpdump bombed because it couldn't find the library Nothing suprising so far. # ln -s libpcap.so.0.6.2 libpcap.so.0 tcpdump runs fine again What if I delete the library out from under a running tcpdump? I ran my tcpdump and ctrl/S'ed it. # rm libpcap.so.0.6.2 # When I ctrl/Q'ed my running tcpdump, it completed just fine, which supports my contention that the library is not deleted until all open channels against it are closed. So using symlinks to avoid *removing* the library is unnecessary. # cp libpcap.sav libpcap.so.0.6.2 tcpdump runs fine again What if I directly overwrite the library while tcpdump is running? I ran my tcpdump and ctrl/S'ed it. # cp libpcap.sav libpcap.so.0.6.2 When I ctrl/Q'ed my running tcpdump, it segfaulted! Thus, I would say that the main reason to use symlinks when updating libraries is that directly overwriting them causes major problems in programs that have them open. On second reading, this doesn't contradict what Karsten said, except I don't see what the atomicity issue has to do with the issue of open channels to the library in running programs. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GUI Mail Client
Rus == Rus Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Rus Hi, Can anyone recommend a mail client which can take my Rus existing pine config and folders? I think Sylphhed will do the trick. It is certainly the best GUI email client I have used under Linux, but this is holy-wars area you are entering! Keith. -- ___ _ Keith O'Connell. -o) Maidstone, Kent. (UK) /\\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] _\_v -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GUI Mail Client
Vineet == Vineet Kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: client I have used under Linux, but this is holy-wars area you are entering! Vineet That much is true! I'm sure I'm not the only one who, on Vineet reading GUI Mail Client is just _itching_ to respond Vineet with 'xterm -e mutt!' no matter what the question ;-) When I posted my reply, I fought back the urge to say I was using gnus, because I didn't think he wanted to hear that!:-) Keith -- ___ _ Keith O'Connell. -o) Maidstone, Kent. (UK) /\\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] _\_v -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Webadmin
Can someone please tell me if Webadmin is available in Debian (woody). If you are referring to webmin, then yes (ver 0.94.7) Keith -- ___ _ Keith O'Connell. -o) Maidstone, Kent. (UK) /\\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] _\_v -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Woody ISO
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Re: Woody ISO
Colin What's up with your mail? You've apparently tried to ask Colin something several times, but with only things like the Colin above in the body of your mails ... Mail fine - User Stupid! (Mea culpa) I thought I was testing mail client/server locally, clearly I was not! Keith -- ___ _ Keith O'Connell. -o) Maidstone, Kent. (UK) /\\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] _\_v -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OS X Games
Hi, Warcraft III is a CD for Windows and Mac OS X. Does the OS X part suggest that is is likley that it might run nativly under linux, or have I misunderstood OS X's similarith to Linux? Keith -- ___ _ Keith O'Connell. -o) Maidstone, Kent. (UK) /\\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] _\_v -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Woody ISO
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Jargon File - where is tuxedo.org?
Hi, I wanted to get a reference from the jargon file so I went to www.tuxedo.org, but was instead taken to the Free Software Foundation! Strange I thought, so I tried again with www.tuxedo.org/~esh this time I was taken to Linux International Finally I tried www.tuxedo.org/~esh/html and got take to the Ethics Research Centre! I have tried this on a couple of machines with the same result. What has happened to Eric Raymonds site? Keith -- ___ _ Keith O'Connell. -o) Maidstone, Kent. (UK) /\\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] _\_v -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Actually Way OT - Debian version names
Barry OK, this is probably a newbie question and maybe it has been covered before but it's been buggin' me for a while. http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-ftparchives.html Section 5.3 -- ___ _ Keith O'Connell. -o) Maidstone, Kent. (UK) /\\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] _\_v -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problem with HP Laserjet 2100
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Woody ISO
Hi, Could anyone supply me with a site I can get hold of a copy of the ISO for a CD of Woody (Binary 1 - Non US) please? Tia. Keith. _ Worried what your kids see online? Protect them better with MSN 8 http://join.msn.com/?page=features/parentalpgmarket=en-gbXAPID=186DI=1059 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Procmail
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LPI Certification (revisited)
Hi, following on from a recent thread, I was wondering if someone could answer a few general questions about the LPI exams. 1: is the exam computer based? (ie: pick one or more from five, or is it free text 2: Is the a hands-on component to the test 3: How many questions 4: How long is the test 5: Can you go back and do questions you passed over? Can you correct answers if you revisit and change your mind? Anyone advise? -- ___ _ Keith O'Connell. -o) Maidstone, Kent. (UK) /\\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] _\_v -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
via82cxxx_audio module
Hi, Normally I don't stray from stable. I am happy to be a little behind and have it all work together nicely, however I recently got an Acer Aspire 1300 laptop, and the hardware requirements were such that I needed kernel 2.4.20. I downloaded the source and complied a kernel and it all worked fine(ish). I am using the machine to write this mail. There were a few problems, but the one I am really stuck on is sound. I know the correct sound driver is via82cxxx_audio.o. I compile this as a module and there are no errors generated, however when I try to load the module it generates the following error message; using /lib/modules/2.4.20/kernel/drivers/sound/via82cxxx_audio.o /lib/modules/2.4.20/kernel/drivers/sound/via82cxxx_audio.o: unresolved symbol ac97_probe_codec I got the sources from kernel.org and I find it hard to believe that this is a bug in a 2.4 series kernel, but it is not working. Can anyone help me with where to start looking for the solution? I am assuming that the guide I am using to getting the Acer to work, http://nervous.oltrelinux.com/hw/linux_aspire1300xv.html, with Debian is correct. I seems to have been right for everything else so far. Keith. -- ___ _ Keith O'Connell. -o) Maidstone, Kent. (UK) /\\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] _\_v -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Samba shared directory
Hi, I currently serve three WinXP machines with their home directories and a read only archive directory. this all works fine. I want to supply a communal directory that everyone can read and write to. I thought it would be straight forward, but it hasn't been and I do not know why. I created a directory \mnt\store\pub\everyone and made it 777. I added the following to samba.conf [share] comment = Shared guest ok = yes writable = yes create mask = 777 directory mask = 777 force user = root force group = root map archive = yes map system = yes map hidden = yes locking = no path = /mnt/store/pub/everyone public = yes The didectory appears on the Windows machine, but Windows users have no access. What is the most likely thing I have got wrong? Anyone help. Keith -- ___ _ Keith O'Connell. -o) Maidstone, Kent. (UK) /\\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] _\_v -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug? - Boot disks and Kernel Source
I see that the boot floppies use a kernel 2.2.20. There is not a stable package for kernel 2.2.20! ? Yes there is! There is no 2.4.20 though. When are we likely to see 2.4.20? Keith ___ _ Keith O'Connell. -o) Maidstone, Kent. (UK) /\\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] _\_v -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Acer Aspire 1300
Hi, I have just got an Acer Aspire 1300, with Win XP Home on it. I want that off and Debian on, but having been in this position before, rather than go through the trial and error process, can someone who has trod this path before tell me which 2.4.18 modules/drivers are correct for the; 1: on board ethernet 2: on board graphics 3: on board sound Windows describes the; a) ethernet card as Via compatible fast ethernet b) graphics card as S3 Via Twister K c) sound card in no way at all! Anyone assist please? Keith -- ___ _ Keith O'Connell. -o) Maidstone, Kent. (UK) /\\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] _\_v -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: squirrelmail, uw-imapd (and ssl)
Steve Lamb wrote: On Wed, 05 Feb 2003 09:47:22 -0500 John M Flinchbaugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i need: a) to get squirrelmail to do ssl b) get uw-imapd to not require ssl c) find an imap implementation that actually works with squirrelmail. any recommendations? Erm, hate to say it but uw-imapd is the only one I have found that does work with Squirrelmail. Courier certainly didn't. I'm surprised. What didn't work? I'm using the stable versions of courier-imap and squirrelmail and having no discernible problems. Running my courier non-ssl internally (that's what squirrelmail is talking to) and ssl externally. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: modem / pon / serial problems
Pigeon wrote: On the modem box I do echo 1 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward ipchains -A forward -s 192.168.1.1/32 -d 0.0.0.0/0 -j ACCEPT -b ipchains -P forward ACCEPT pon ukonline ping 195.40.1.36 (this is a ukonline DNS server) ... and it works. I go back to the main box and try and ping the same address, and nothing happens. I'm no expert on ipchains (I've only used iptables), but don't you need to do something for IP Masquerading? In other words, how would the modem box know how to send the response to the ping back to the rear box? Someone please correct me if I'm wrong. I've appended the script I used for doing this sort of thing using iptables. Note the lines involving 'nat'. It's a shame doing this sort of thing is a bit of a black art (best I can recall I cobbled this together using someone else's script on the 'Net), but you're getting a router for free, so you can't complain too much! :-) #!/bin/sh # # ip-up script for IP Masquerading # Created 10/06/2002 by KGM # # These variables are for the use of the scripts run by run-parts PPP_IFACE=$1 # PPP_TTY=$2 # PPP_SPEED=$3 # PPP_LOCAL=$4 # PPP_REMOTE=$5 # PPP_IPPARAM=$6 # Initialization iptables -F; iptables -t mangle -F echo 1 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward iptables -P INPUT ACCEPT iptables -F INPUT iptables -P OUTPUT ACCEPT iptables -F OUTPUT iptables -P FORWARD DROP iptables -F FORWARD iptables -t nat -F # Allow only existing and related connections in iptables -A FORWARD -i $PPP_IFACE -o eth0 -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT # Allow all connections out iptables -A FORWARD -i eth0 -o $PPP_IFACE -j ACCEPT iptables -A FORWARD -j LOG # Masquerade! iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o $PPP_IFACE -j MASQUERADE -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: modem / pon / serial problems
Pigeon wrote: [cut] in the meantime I still want it to copy data from one serial port to the other so I can continue to dial out as normal from the main box. Of course, Linux can't run my DOS program. But there's a package called snooper which seems to do the same thing. So I installed it on the modem box and set it up to connect the external and modem serial ports. Try pon from the main box - nothing. [cut] Since you seem dead-set against buying a couple of NICs... I would take a completely different tack and try using SLIP, so you'll have regular TCP/IP networking going on over the serial line. Then use the modem PC as your gateway, and run PPP in demand mode on the modem PC. One of the many beauties of this approach is that when you *do* buy a couple of NICs, and even when you replace your dialup with broadband, you'll still can use the same PC as a gateway. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
gtoaster
Hi, I use gtaoster quite a lot for the various jobs I have with cdrw. I was playing with dselect and I saw that cdrdao is now marked as an obsolete package. I want to install gtoaster on a new machine, but will not be able to as the dependency, cdrdao is no longer available. Why is gtoaster still an option in stable if a dependency is pulled from stable. Is there another way to get gtoaster to work. Am I missing something obvioue here? Keith. -- ___ _ Keith O'Connell. -o) Maidstone, Kent. (UK) /\\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] _\_v -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Missing a PERL module called 'concat'
I've installed a very minimum Debian 'testing' system. I trying to run a perl script that uses a 'concat' function. I can't find it as a built-in function of the language nor can I find it in the Debian packages list. The error is - Undefined subroutine main::concat called at ./mbox2maildir.pl line 31. I've tried to form it into 'libmain-concat-perl' and various other wording combinations (for the Debian package search). I tried another script that does the same thing, but I got the same type of error (no 'concat'). Neither script homepages have any mention of 'something special' so I assume that it a 'standard' in other distributions (but not Debian). Anyone have a suggestion? Keith -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Emacs21 and menu bar
Joerg I have just installed emacs21 for being able to use the preview-latex package. I really hate this menu bar with Icons Can I disable this Icon menu bar, and get back to my old text-mode I think what you are looking for is (tool-bar-mode 0) -- ___ _ Keith O'Connell. -o) Maidstone, Kent. (UK) /\\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] _\_v -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Amavis should scan only mail for existent users (Exim)
Mike Mimic wrote: Hi! I have installed an Amavis system for Exim (amavis-exim). I have configured the Amavis and Exim and now e-mails are scanned and correctly filtered. But there is a problem. Exim now accpets e-mail even for non-existent users. It than scans e-mails and than it refuses them if there is no such localpart. This is a problem as server does unnecessary work. And querying Exim about existance of an e-mail address (I use Mail::CheckUser Perl module for this) now always returns true as Exim accepts everything. I have also MySQL users on my system. I added this to Transports section: amavis: driver = pipe command = /usr/sbin/amavis ${sender_address} ${pipe_addresses} prefix = suffix = check_string = escape_string = # for debugging change return_output to true return_output = false return_path_add = false user = amavis group = nogroup path = /bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin current_directory = /var/lib/amavis I added this to beginning of Directors section: amavis_director: condition = ${if eq {$received_protocol}{scanned-ok} {0}{1}} driver = smartuser transport = amavis no_verify ^ might do what you want. Means that amavis_director won't be checked during the verify phase. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
dependencies
Hi, I like to use gtoaster. I tried to load it onto a new machine with dselect, only to find that one of the dependencies, cdrdao, is now listed as obsolete. What happens in this sort of case when there is a knock on effect? Keith -- ___ _ Keith O'Connell. -o) Maidstone, Kent. (UK) /\\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] _\_v -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [robertsharris@comcast.net: Re: Fw: Ga. Visit.]
Pigeon wrote: On Thu, Dec 19, 2002 at 01:00:57AM -0500, Brian Nelson wrote: Ehem. Mail-Copies-To: never. Doesn't mutt respect that header? Robert L. Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thus spake Brian Nelson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): http://kmself.home.netcom.com/Rants/gpg-signed-mail.html Tell your father to stop using OE, or any other MS mailer. They're all broken and should never be used by anyone for any purpose. Unless, of course, you want to demonstrate how piss-poor MS software can be. Ok, I'll give him your phone number to call when he has questions and can't understand why the background on his mailer changed colors. He's 65 and has just learned windows in the last 2 years, uses his computer just to send email every other day so he's oh so motivated to learn something new every day instead of going out on the boat fishing or what not down in his Fla retirement village. Just because he uses windows doesn't mean he has to use quite possibly the worst piece of software *ever* written. There's a few relatively sane email clients available for windows. If he refuses to learn to use a new mailer, then he can live with opening signed mails as attachments, break virtually every rule of email netiquette, risk getting/spreading viruses, etc. I won't lose any sleep over it. OE sucks, but it does have the one merit that it's easy for someone who knows nothing about computers to Send And Receive An Email. Having got that far, everything else is a pain in the arse. I always wonder why no one mentions Netscape|Mozilla Messenger in this vein. It seems very easy to me, has good features, and the price is right. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
802.11b
Hi, I have a small home network with machines connected by cat5 10/100 cable. I want to introduce an old laptop with wireless connections to the mix and just want to test the water to see if it will all work together. I am looking at a Linksys WAP11 hub and a Linksys WPC11 pcmcia card. If I plug the hub into the existing router, and the pcmcia card into the laptop, then install Debian onto the laptop, provided I read the howto's and configure it right, will this kit work with stable? Is anyone using this as a setup? Are there any dire warnings I should be aware of? As a matter of interest, does any one know how many wireless devices can be pushed through a single WAP11, 1, 5, 10, n-1? -- ___ _ Keith O'Connell. -o) Maidstone, Kent. (UK) /\\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] _\_v -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What makes the files in /var/backup?
Nathan E Norman wrote: On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 11:57:08AM -0600, Keith G. Murphy wrote: I looked in the crontab stuff, but couldn't figure out what makes these. Might be nice to be able to add stuff. :-) Thanks in advance. Check out /etc/cron.daily/standard Doh! How did I miss *that*? Thanks a lot. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What makes the files in /var/backup?
I looked in the crontab stuff, but couldn't figure out what makes these. Might be nice to be able to add stuff. :-) Thanks in advance. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: smbfs just isn't there
Tim Verry wrote: Nope, just installed from 3.0_r0/i386/debian-30r0-i386-binary-1.iso This: http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/ search_contents.pl?word=smbfs.osearchmode=searchfilescase=insensitiveversion=stablearch=i386 tells me that smbfs.o is in the 2.2.20 kernel image package, so that might be an option for you. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Exim domain setup problem for dialup use
Bill Moseley wrote: I've got a Debain machine running exim acting as a MASQ machine on a pppoe connection (e.g. the machine has two NICs). The hostname is burn. The domain, for this example, is burn.foo.net The problem is if I send mail to outside machines: echo hello | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] gives this: ...error from remote mailer after MAIL FROM: ... 501 5.1.8 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... Domain of sender address [EMAIL PROTECTED] does not exist Which is correct, burn.foo.net does not resolve. It really doesn't make a lot of sense that it would be qualifying that address with your local domain. The only guess I have is that you have something in /etc/email-addresses that is making it rewrite the address. Otherwise, you'd need to post your /etc/exim/exim.conf and /etc/email-addresses files. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing TrueType fonts
Vittorio wrote: In a magazine I've found a CD with many ttf files for the use with Photoshop under windows. What's the straightforward way to install those ttf files under debian woody for the use with gnome 1.4, OpenOffice, and - above all - the Gimp? I think you'll want to check this out: http://packages.debian.org/stable/x11/x-ttcidfont-conf.html though I certainly don't know all the ins and outs of using it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: galeon --server
On Mon, 4 Nov 2002 09:45:01 +1100 Rob Weir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Nov 03, 2002 at 03:07:03PM +, Keith O'Connell wrote: I am starting to wonder. I hav now a file that reads #!/bin/sh resources=$HOME/.Xresources if [ -f $resources ]; then xrdb -load $resources fi galeon -s -e0 emacs -i When I fire up X the resources file loads, but the galeon and emacs line appears to do nothing. I am confused? That's quite odd...Maybe emacs is running the background somewhere? What does 'ps aux|grep -i emacs' say? It says; keith 7658 0.0 0.0 1336 440 pts/3 2 16:59 0:00 grep -i emacs Is your ~/.xsession executable? It is 744 and it is keith.keith as ownner.group If you stick a line like 'xclock' in your .xsession, do you get a clock on X startup? Nope - no clock? Now I'm not just confused, I'm concerned. Keith. -- ___ _ Keith O'Connell. -o) Maidstone, Kent. (UK) /\\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] _\_v -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: galeon --server
On Sun, 3 Nov 2002 20:47:15 +1100 Rob Weir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Nov 03, 2002 at 07:28:15AM +, Keith O'Connell wrote: Hi, I am trying to get the command galeon --server to load each time I start X, but I am not having much luck. I have tried putting galeon --server and galeon --server % into both ~/.xinitrc and ~/.xsession without success What would be the correct way to do this? I have this in my .xsession file and it works fine for me: galeon -s -e0 Oh dear - I have just tried this and it does not make a blind bit of difference. Could I ask to see your .xsession file in its entirety? Keith. -- ___ _ Keith O'Connell. -o) Maidstone, Kent. (UK) /\\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] _\_v -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: galeon --server
On Mon, 4 Nov 2002 00:23:01 +1100 Rob Weir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Nov 03, 2002 at 11:08:49AM +, Keith O'Connell wrote: On Sun, 3 Nov 2002 20:47:15 +1100 Rob Weir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: galeon -s -e0 Oh dear - I have just tried this and it does not make a blind bit of difference. Could I ask to see your .xsession file in its entirety? Sure: #!/bin/sh . ~/.zprofile xrdb -merge ~/.Xresources xmodmap ~/.xmodmap-thebox galeon -s -e0 emacs -i gabber exec gnome-session Are the rest of the programs in your ~/.xsession starting up? I am starting to wonder. I hav now a file that reads #!/bin/sh resources=$HOME/.Xresources if [ -f $resources ]; then xrdb -load $resources fi galeon -s -e0 emacs -i When I fire up X the resources file loads, but the galeon and emacs line appears to do nothing. I am confused? Keith -- ___ _ Keith O'Connell. -o) Maidstone, Kent. (UK) /\\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] _\_v -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
galeon --server
Hi, I am trying to get the command galeon --server to load each time I start X, but I am not having much luck. I have tried putting galeon --server and galeon --server % into both ~/.xinitrc and ~/.xsession without success What would be the correct way to do this? Keith -- ___ _ Keith O'Connell. -o) Maidstone, Kent. (UK) /\\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] _\_v -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Woody ISO
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Re: OT: e-mail question
Rodney Green wrote: Example: [EMAIL PROTECTED] If the accounts are dependent on a system user account there can only be one webmaster account. Of course, an alias can be setup that points [EMAIL PROTECTED] to a different local system user like webmaster2. With some e-mail systems I've seen (Windows based) the full e-mail address is used as the account name instead of a system user account. So, in the client the pop3 user would be setup as [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead of just webmaster. Get what I'm saying? :-) You have to remember that there's at least 3 places where that address can apply, and they're all independent systems: POP3 or IMAP authentication (POP3/IMAP server), return or sender address (mail client), and inbound routing (SMTP server, like exim). I say that because I detect a little confusion on that point in your posting. Or maybe you're just being brief. :-) That said, sticking point is probably non-Unix POP3/IMAP authentication, and Cyrus can apparently do this using Kerberos, and Courier can do it with a variety of mechanisms. I'd look at Courier, if it were I. :-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Two Debian 3.0 reviews at Slashdot
Price, Erik wrote: -Original Message- From: David A. Rogers [mailto:darogers;speakeasy.net] Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 11:47 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Two Debian 3.0 reviews at Slashdot I did a quick check on the xfree86 site. It doesn't look like the intense3d is supported. The one thing you can do to make sure that installing Linux is easy is to make sure all your hardware is fully supported. Hear that! I'm going to try to find a used video card. I don't need anything fancy (I don't play games on this machine). You *have* tried xserver-3dlabs, right? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Galeon Mail/News ?
Is there any kind of Galeon Mail/News ? It is perfect with sylpheed Keith -- ___ _ Keith O'Connell. -o) Maidstone, Kent. (UK) /\\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] _\_v -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: diald on debian?
Kurt Yoder wrote: Hey list I recently tried to set up diald, but can't get the automatic internet connection to work. I've definitely got a working internet connection if I start it manually using pon. I have diald installed, and all the configs look OK to my inexperienced eye. What else should I look at to get diald working correctly so that I don't have to manually bring up my internet connection? I should mention that pppd's own dial-on-demand feature seems to work surprisingly well now. pon starts up pppd, it hangs around waiting for an outgoing packet, then dials out. poff kills off the pppd process, disabling dial-on-demand. Turns out it's really easy to set up: add one line ('demand') to /etc/ppp/peers/provider. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Kernel 2.2 to 2.4 on a laptop
On Mon, 14 Oct 2002 14:44:57 -0700 Eric Richardson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I did a web page that kindof summarizes the differences between 2.2 and 2.4 on a laptop. http://www.milagrosoft.com/products/software/debian-woody.html I will give this a try at the weekend! Thanks very much -- ___ _ Keith O'Connell. -o) Maidstone, Kent. (UK) /\\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] _\_v -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mutt and mailboxes
Andy Saxena wrote: On Fri, Oct 11, 2002 at 09:23:25AM -0500, Keith G. Murphy wrote: Andy Saxena wrote: I don't think Squirrelmail allows access to POP mailboxes. Check out squirrelmail's web page. Look at the plugins. Thanks for the pointer, but I don't see any plug-ins that allow POP access without downloading it in some way. I looked at the descriptions of Mail Fetch and Mail Fetchmail. An ideal situation would be being able to see the important message headers like From: and Subject: and then being able to download the message body by selecting a particular message; sort of like pop3browser. Yeah, you're right, I see nothing that does that. I could be wrong, but I think the fundamental idea of Squirrelmail is IMAP access (consider the authentication procedure, for example). Besides, Squirrelmail doesn't provide any way to enter the email server information, username and password. I could've overlooked some plug-in that does this too :-}. I am certain that you did. Use the source, Luke. :-) I just noticed that it looks like the POP3 functionality has been integrated into the latest squirrelmail (that is why one of the plugins is marked obsolete), but the documentation on that is extremely sparse. Some time, I am going to play with it... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Kernel 2.2 to 2.4 on a laptop
On Sun, 13 Oct 2002 10:29:34 -0400 Seneca [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Oct 13, 2002 at 02:11:13PM +0100, Keith O'Connell wrote: I have a problem with my laptop which I would appreciate some guidance with. It is a Dell Inspiron 3700 (hardly cutting edge now!) I installed Woody on it with the default 2.2 kernel and the various packages I want and it runs fine. I then use dselect to install the kernel-image-2.4.18-5, and all the dependencies. When I reboot the machine the pcmcia network card is not used and no network link is made. Have you installed hotplug and the appropriate pcmcia-modules packages? Yes, I have both installed! -- ___ _ Keith O'Connell. -o) Maidstone, Kent. (UK) /\\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] _\_v -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mutt and mailboxes
Andy Saxena wrote: On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 10:03:05AM -0500, Keith G. Murphy wrote: Andy Saxena wrote: I am a happy squirrelmail user, but I think the above solution is an elegant solution for a large user base. It's low-maintenance and hassle-free. Apparently, there's a squirrelmail plugin that does fetchmail. Seems to me that *might* fill in the missing piece that mail2web is doing for you: letting the users maintain the retrieval process. I don't think Squirrelmail allows access to POP mailboxes. Check out squirrelmail's web page. Look at the plugins. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mutt and mailboxes
Andy Saxena wrote: On Thu, Oct 03, 2002 at 01:33:29PM -0400, Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote: I actually do all this, too (except the squirrelmail part -- I just use mail2web with the IMAP options for web access). It *is* a beautiful setup -- can't recommend it highly enough! If you have no trouble trusting strangers with your personal email, I guess this would work. mail2web is a pretty cool idea, though. I wonder if there's open sourced software that does the same thing. I am a happy squirrelmail user, but I think the above solution is an elegant solution for a large user base. It's low-maintenance and hassle-free. Apparently, there's a squirrelmail plugin that does fetchmail. Seems to me that *might* fill in the missing piece that mail2web is doing for you: letting the users maintain the retrieval process. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dial-in server
Joey Quevedo wrote: Oki wrote: What do you have in /etc/ppp/options? I leave mine as is-default config. Should I change it? How do you set your /etc/ppp/options.ttySn? I set mine with server IP:client IP. Both in the same network of course. Try this: ipcp-accept-remote in your options.dialin. man pppd for what this does. Your idea of his IP address may not be his idea. :-) In relation with this, can I set the assignment of IPs to be handled automatically. In my Windows RAS, assignment of IPs for dial-up is automatically assigned by the DHCP server. Is this possible also in Debian? I'm not sure what you'd accomplish by this that you couldn't easily accomplish using different local addresses for each port. For DNS and WINS, the other things that RAS is doing, see the ms-dns and ms-wins options of pppd. options.ttyS1 192.168.200.1: options.ttyS2 192.168.200.2: -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Automating IMAP email maintenance
Andy Saxena wrote: Hi, I use Cyrus as my IMAP server. When I transfer email from my ISP to Cyrus I use a procmail recipe. Before any of the procmail rules are applies I backup all email into a backup folder. I would like to be able to run a cron job to automatically delete messages from this backup folder. Any pointers on how I could do this? Google did not reveal too much information of interest. I'd be happy to read the documention if somebody could point me the right direction. One way to do it would be to use the libmail-imapclient-perl package to write a program that does it. The documentation may be a little sparse. You could end up learning Perl *and* reading an RFC! :-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Windows Domains? (was: getting a 3C905B network card
Erik Price wrote: Unfortunately, I couldn't access my company email account from Linux, and using Lynx to access this freebie Yahoo account didn't work because Lynx doesn't yet support https. Check out lynx-ssl, or even links-ssl, from the non-US section of Debian. Because upon restarting the machine and booting back into Win2k, I discovered that I couldn't even log into the machine! It turns out that at my company, the login is controlled by something called a domain, which is some kind of network-based authentication system. I don't really understand it myself. I ended up having to call tech support and they managed to help me get it all online, apparently by forcing the machine to accept DHCP again. Does anyone know how to get Linux to work cooperatively alongside this MS domain business? In other words, I could boot right back into Linux and execute /etc/init.d/networking restart again, You shouldn't need to do this; '/etc/init.d/networking start' should be executed at startup. and be using the web from Linux, but then when I go back to Windows I'm going to have a problem. Why do you think this? Have you tried it? I don't see how the Windows network settings would affect Linux, or vice versa. Maybe this is all easier than you think. :-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sorting locally delivered email using Procmail
Andy Saxena wrote: On Fri, Oct 04, 2002 at 10:45:48AM -0500, Keith G. Murphy wrote: Actually, I just use fetchmail to download from my ISP's POP3 store to my local Cyrus IMAP server (via procmail). So your situation is completely different. I don't see how you could use fetchmail to do what you are wanting to do. What happens if you run cyrdeliver manually while logged on as the 'mail' user (assuming your exim is running as that)? You might have some kind of permissions problem. fetchmail is running as root for me, so that's might be why it works for me, but not in the context of exim for you. Looks like there's a great deal of misunderstanding/ miscommunication about what I am trying to achieve. For details, please read my original posting. Here's the situation in brief: Deliver local mail to users in such a way that they can run their procmail recipes. For e.g., if a user gets all the mail about cron jobs, he should be able to direct that into the =inbox.cron folder. Well, I don't see what I'm misunderstanding. My points were * When one of your users sends a mail, it's going to exim. At that point, exim needs to deliver it, and fetchmail really can't (well, shouldn't) get involved - cyrdeliver, as you are doing, seems the proper thing to do. Therefore, I mentioned that my setup, where I use fetchmail, because I want to download mail from a POP account, won't work (well, isn't the best way) for you. * Since cyrdeliver is running under exim's user (mail) for you, and either under root or the recipient's user for me, your problems may stem from permissions, and you need to see what happens if you try doing the delivery under a different username. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: mass installation on XBox
Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, Oct 03, 2002 at 10:18:07AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: It's in Switzerland where the DMCA (luckily) doesn't apply. You might even be lucky enough to evade the EUCD, then, which is not that far off ... No such luck. The Swiss signed on to the EU recently. You're not thinking of their joining the United Nations, are you? -- Keith Willoughby | http://flat222.org/keith/ If the world doesn't understand, then the world has got to learn -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sorting locally delivered email using Procmail
Andy Saxena wrote: On Thu, Oct 03, 2002 at 10:58:01AM -0500, Keith G. Murphy wrote: You might want to try this. I don't know if it makes any difference or not, but cyrdeliver is picky and not well documented, and I notice that I always use the userid argument, and it works. It's a different situation, though; I'm using fetchmail for my needs. IMAP=$DELIVERMAIL -a andy -q -m andy andy No dice. It won't work. By the way, the setup works for me when I get email from the ISP using fetchmail and deliver it to Cyrus using the same procmail recipe. You use fetchmail for local delivery from user A to user B? Could you please share your Exim and fetchmail setup? Actually, I just use fetchmail to download from my ISP's POP3 store to my local Cyrus IMAP server (via procmail). So your situation is completely different. I don't see how you could use fetchmail to do what you are wanting to do. What happens if you run cyrdeliver manually while logged on as the 'mail' user (assuming your exim is running as that)? You might have some kind of permissions problem. fetchmail is running as root for me, so that's might be why it works for me, but not in the context of exim for you. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sorting locally delivered email using Procmail
Andy Saxena wrote: Hi, I tried under a different subject heading that may have been misleading. So here goes another try: I am trying to use procmail for local delivery. My setup consists of exim and cyrus from sid. Calling the localuser director before procmail I am easily able to deliver local email to myself. However, if I call the procmail director before localuser, the delivery fails. ---~/.procmailrc (end)-- SHELL=/bin/sh DELIVERMAIL=/usr/sbin/cyrdeliver LOGFILE=$HOME/.maillog IMAP=$DELIVERMAIL -a andy -q -m andy LOGABSTRACT=all VERBOSE=on You might want to try this. I don't know if it makes any difference or not, but cyrdeliver is picky and not well documented, and I notice that I always use the userid argument, and it works. It's a different situation, though; I'm using fetchmail for my needs. IMAP=$DELIVERMAIL -a andy -q -m andy andy -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Foomatic and CUPS
Bill Wohler wrote: I was under the impression that one could simply install foomatic and then CUPS would then be able to present the available printers and drivers to the user. CUPS would then call foomatic-configure on behalf of the user to automatically put together a ppd file. This isn't the case. I use cupsomatic-ppd, rather than foomatic-db, and that works great for me. Your mileage may vary. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apache-perl vs HTML::Mason
Bob Proulx wrote: will trillich [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-09-29 23:30:31 -0500]: okay, apt-get is wonderful and all that -- but when sticking with a tried-and-true potato setup, it's hard to get feature updates without some extra-apt activity... Wait, wait, wait. Did you say sticking with a tried-and-true potato and features updates in the same sentence? Uh, excuse me? Shock, horror, amazement! Stunned silence. Living on CPAN is almost equivalent to living on unstable. If you feel CPAN unstable is good, why not Debian unstable? To my way of thinking that is an inconsistent viewpoint. For that matter, egads, man, woody is *stable*. Potato is just plain obsolete. Sheesh, I though I was conservative. Seriously, try to upgrade to woody, even if it is a production server. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Set group seting to multiple files
On Thu, Sep 12, 2002 at 01:49:33PM +0200, Pierre Dupuis wrote: OK ! I'm sorry to be a newbie :// I need more explanation.. I will be more explicit I've got some files owned by root and part as root group. First i want to made them audio group. Then i want to set a read permission for group audio on these files. I have look at the man chmod but it is not very limpid. Maybe someone can help me :) Pierre Dupuis [EMAIL PROTECTED] snip chgrp audio file1 file2 ... OR chgrp -R audio dir This will change the group from root (or whatever) to audio - the first will do files, the second directories. However, you need to be the owner in order to make any ownership/permission changes. chmod g+r file1 file2 ... OR chmod -R g+r dir This will give group read permissions - the first for individual files, the second for whole directories. Hope that's limpid enough for you, pierre ;) Keith -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OFF TOPIC] majordomo and exim
in the aliases file, but beyond that... Thanks again in advance Keith -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Fwd: Re: Login to home from work]
That leads me to this thought: if you really want access to a GUI desktop on your home machine, and/or don't want to carry an Putty floppy with you... What about installing (Tight)VNC on your Linux machine, and use its HTTP/Java capabilities to get to your machine from any Internet-connected machine that has a Java-capable browser? The beauty of that is that that web page Kenneth proposes could then have an actual *link* to your X desktop! That is perhaps not too secure, but you could always run apache-ssl, or apache + mod_ssl, with authentication, and use mod_proxy to forward requests to Xvnc. Mind you, personally I'd rather just use Putty/SSH when possible, and I use DynDNS for the addressing. I would think the above would be substantially slower - but it could help you out in a pinch. Kenneth Macdonald Karlsen wrote: Subject: Re: Login to home from work From: Kenneth Macdonald Karlsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 09 Sep 2002 19:39:17 +0200 To: Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If your isp has possibilities for a homepage you can make cron.hourly and put a script there. Example of script is: ken@pingu:~$ cat ip.script #!/bin/bash wget www.showmyip.com -O /var/tmp/ip grep nextgen /var/tmp/ip | cat /var/tmp/test.html ncftpput -u kennkarl -p xxxwhatever home.broadpark.no / /var/tmp/test.html ken@pingu:~$ -- results : http://home.broadpark.no/~kennkarl/test.html Im never more than a hour away from home Kenneth On Mon, 2002-09-09 at 15:43, Paul Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Sep 08, 2002 at 09:14:26PM -0600, Phil Reardon wrote: What needs to be set up in order to login to my home box from work? At home there is a cable modem, then a router, then two linux boxes, with mine running debian (sid). I have a 192.168.2.xx ip address. You'll need some way of identifying your home machine remotely. I use dyndns.org's service to get DNS. You'll also need to install ssh if you intend on logging in remotely. - -- Baloo -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9fKWXNtWkM9Ny9xURAlzWAJ9YR2ik2W756SC+FTq8zjcrcxEDUQCgoqVo 50GF8zHLeqSnlgnuliwvVC8= =CtGO -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
apache + mod_ssl
Hi all, If anybody could point me in the right direction with the following problem, it would be most appreciated :) I'm trying to get mod_ssl to work with apache, but so far to no avail. I've installed mod_ssl (through apt), generated server.crt and server.key and signed the certificate myself. In httpd.conf I've added the appropriate line to load mod_ssl: LoadModule ssl_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_ssl.so and then added the following lines: IfDefine SSL VirtualHost _default_:443 ServerAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED] DocumentRoot /var/www/site.virtual/htdocs/mystats ServerName www.webwardrobe.com SSLEngine on SSLCertificateFile /etc/apache/ssl.crt/server.crt SSLCertificateKeyFile /etc/apache/ssl.key/server.key SetEnvIf User-Agent .*MSIE.* nokeepalive ssl-unclean-shutdown CustomLog /var/log/apache/ssl_request_log %t %h %{SSL_PROTOCOL}x %{SSL_CIPHER} x \%r\ %b /VirtualHost /IfDefine However, when I restart apache (apachectl restart), port 443 remains closed. Shouldn't this port open upon restarting apache? I guess I'm just being dumb here, so all help would be appreciated. Thanks, Keith -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Stable not same as potato in security archive?
Colin Watson wrote: On Tue, Jun 25, 2002 at 09:53:07AM -0500, Keith G. Murphy wrote: I noticed the announcement of the patch to SSH (version 3.3) in security-announce. I tried to upgrade to the patched Potato version. This was the pertinent line in my sources.list: deb http://security.debian.org stable/updates main contrib non-free ^^ After apt-get update, I could only fetch 3.0. But I noticed that on another system, I was able to get 3.3. It had: deb http://security.debian.org/ potato/updates main contrib non-free ^^ in sources.list. After changing my sources.list to that on the first system, and doing apt-get update, I was able to get ssh 3.3. I thought potato and stable were the same thing right now!? No? They are, but the potato version of ssh 3.3 was only added quite recently; the first announcement on -security-announce was when the woody version was prepared. Are you sure you didn't just get your timing wrong? Well, I would think that if I hadn't gotten the update on one system *before* I tried unsuccessfully on the other! Maybe just a mistake on my part. Can't replicate the effect now. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't mistaken in thinking that potato and stable were exactly the same thing (for now). Thanks. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Stable not same as potato in security archive?
I noticed the announcement of the patch to SSH (version 3.3) in security-announce. I tried to upgrade to the patched Potato version. This was the pertinent line in my sources.list: deb http://security.debian.org stable/updates main contrib non-free ^^ After apt-get update, I could only fetch 3.0. But I noticed that on another system, I was able to get 3.3. It had: deb http://security.debian.org/ potato/updates main contrib non-free ^^ in sources.list. After changing my sources.list to that on the first system, and doing apt-get update, I was able to get ssh 3.3. I thought potato and stable were the same thing right now!? No? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Seagate Travan questions
Brian wrote: I am using a Seagate Travan 10 GB uncompressed tape drive to backup a file server, (on the same machine). Does anyone have problems with this drive and/or the driver? Sometimes it will return with an I/O error and a tape is in the drive. Another time it will work fine. Or it may say the resource is busy even though no processes are using it. Also, sometimes I try to stop the backup process because it is not doing anything and the process won't die. I read that sometimes if a driver gets an I/O error then the process can't be killed and only rebooting the machine will get rid of the process. Is this untrue about not able to kill a process? What about the tape drive though? It does seem to respond better after a reboot. Has anyone had trouble with this drive or driver? Yes, I have had many of the same experiences with the Seagate Travan 4 GB drive. You might get some joy using scsiadd to delete and readd the device. Or, it might not see the drive when you try to readd it. No harm, since otherwise you can't use it again anyway until reboot. Often, I have decided that a particular tape is bad, causing the problems you're seeing, only to find that a retension, plus starting to write at the beginning of the tape again clears everything up. Once the tape screws up, you can pretty much forget about continuing to append. I've had better luck with some IBM OEM Travan drives that I got off EBay. I have heard, and experience confirms, that some of the drives don't have very good motors, and you can tell if you hear the drive continue to reposition multiple times when you put the tape in the drive. It should try once and be through. If it's doing this, maybe you could return the drive and maybe hit on a better one next time. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: filling my logs after upgrade to woody
On Sun, Jun 09, 2002 at 02:51:02PM -0700, Bill Wohler wrote: Keith Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sat, Jun 08, 2002 at 01:42:28PM -0700, Bill Wohler wrote: Keith Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jun 8 21:00:01 harvey PAM_unix[10392]: (cron) session closed for user root This is really annoying when I'm checking the logs. I've had a look for the problem, but came up emtpy. Not a problem, just PAM reporting setuid calls. Cheers for the response. Any way of redirecting this output to a different log, or is it just something that I'll have to work around when surveying the logs? The answer is most likely yes, although I'd have to dig through the syslog and PAM man pages to find the spells to throw into the witches' pot, namely syslog.conf. However, you probably really don't want to do that. That information might be useful in the case of a security breach. As you mention, ignoring the messages until you do need them is a reasonable approach. Indeed, this is what I do in my logcheck filters. Yes, I think this is probably the best response. It had crossed my mind to filter the logs with a small perl script, but, as you say, this information won't then be available to me should I need to refer to it. So I'll just read around it. Thanks for your responses, Bill. Most appreciated. Keith -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
New Video Card
Hi, I just replaced the Voodoo Banshee in a machine with a Hercules 3D Prophet 4000XT card. I thought the choice of card would be straight forward when I re-ran xf86config, but it isn't. Can anyone else running this card tell me which driver I should use for XFree86 4? Keith -- Keith O'Connell. Maidstone, Kent. (UK) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
filling my logs after upgrade to woody
Hi, Since upgrading my Potato box to woody, /etc/auth.log is full of the following: Jun 8 20:30:01 harvey PAM_unix[10313]: (cron) session opened for user root by (uid=0) Jun 8 20:30:01 harvey PAM_unix[10313]: (cron) session closed for user root Jun 8 20:38:01 harvey PAM_unix[10326]: (cron) session opened for user mail by (uid=0) Jun 8 20:38:01 harvey PAM_unix[10326]: (cron) session closed for user mail Jun 8 20:40:01 harvey PAM_unix[10338]: (cron) session opened for user root by (uid=0) Jun 8 20:40:01 harvey PAM_unix[10338]: (cron) session closed for user root Jun 8 20:50:01 harvey PAM_unix[10367]: (cron) session opened for user root by (uid=0) Jun 8 20:50:01 harvey PAM_unix[10367]: (cron) session closed for user root Jun 8 20:53:01 harvey PAM_unix[10369]: (cron) session opened for user mail by (uid=0) Jun 8 20:53:01 harvey PAM_unix[10369]: (cron) session closed for user mail Jun 8 21:00:01 harvey PAM_unix[10392]: (cron) session opened for user root by (uid=0) Jun 8 21:00:01 harvey PAM_unix[10392]: (cron) session closed for user root This is really annoying when I'm checking the logs. I've had a look for the problem, but came up emtpy. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. Keith -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: filling my logs after upgrade to woody
On Sat, Jun 08, 2002 at 01:42:28PM -0700, Bill Wohler wrote: Keith Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jun 8 21:00:01 harvey PAM_unix[10392]: (cron) session closed for user root This is really annoying when I'm checking the logs. I've had a look for the problem, but came up emtpy. Not a problem, just PAM reporting setuid calls. Cheers for the response. Any way of redirecting this output to a different log, or is it just something that I'll have to work around when surveying the logs? Keith -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT:spam mail with To:-feld without my address
On Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 12:57:50AM -0700, AE Roy wrote: I know that this is kind of off-topic, but I'm asking you folks anyway because I'm sure you've experienced the same as me. I keep getting mail, spam-mail about 40 each day, and I don't know how to get procmail to handle them. They all have a To:-filed containing some other address than mine, e.g To: ` [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Especially I get alot of those with a mail address inside , how do I get procmail to handle this. A mail address inside angle brackets is a standard e-mail address format. The procmail filter at http://spastic.sourceforge.net handles the problem of getting e-mail not addressed to you through an allowed file. You just list valid addresses (or regexps) that can be in the To: or Cc: header in a file. All others are marked as spam and dumped into a spam file that you can review later. It has many other filters you can use for other headers, the body, valid domains, etc. Best Regards, Keith -- LPIC-2, MCSE, N+ Got spam? Get spastic http://spastic.sourceforge.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Printer help
On Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 09:43:03AM -0700, SJ wrote: If there is *whimper* what is the command or package required to start it? If you run CUPS instead of LPD, you can use the CUPS web interface to set up all your local and remote printers. It's very nice. Best Regards, Keith -- LPIC-2, MCSE, N+ Got spam? Get spastic http://spastic.sourceforge.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to install DHCP
On Mon, Jun 03, 2002 at 05:53:25PM +0200, Paul Huygen wrote: I have a computer that was connected to the Internet over ethernet with a fixed IP address. Recently the network manager requested to change to DHCP, and I cannot find out how I have to do that. So, can anybody help me to tell me how to do that? The Linux networking overview Howto refers to a DHCP mini HOWTO, and the latter suggest Debian users to install a deb package called dhcpcd. However, this package is not available in testing. [snip] Yes, dhcpcd is the program you want. There are at least two popular DHCP clients, dhcpcd and pump. I've used both and both have worked well for me. You should be able to install the dhcpcd package from stable. I am new to Debian, so I can't tell you which files/scripts you need to modify. My woody CDs won't arrive until later this week :) Best Regards, Keith -- LPIC-2, MCSE, N+ Got spam? Get spastic http://spastic.sourceforge.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Spam mail question
On Mon, Jun 03, 2002 at 02:34:01PM +, Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira wrote: Hi all, How to reject mail with from like this: at a Debian GNU/Linux box and Exim? With procmail? TIA,Paulo Henrique. Well, I am biased, but you can get a nice procmail script for spam removal that handles that case and many more at http://spastic.sourceforge.net. Best Regards, Keith -- LPIC-2, MCSE, N+ Got spam? Get spastic http://spastic.sourceforge.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: grub
On Mon, Jun 03, 2002 at 06:50:35PM +0100, Ted wrote: Hi.. I am trying to boot a SuSE partition on hdb1 using grub..I have the following lines in menu.lst title suse2 root(hd1,0) kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hdb1 ro hdc=scsi (END) On bootup the system starts to load and then I get a kernel panic message and the system locks up...Could anyone please tell me what I am doinmg wrong... Most recent SuSE versions require an initrd image to boot since they use reiserfs as a default file system for /. If you are using reiserfs or ext3 as /, you need an initrd so kernel can mount it at boot. Best Regards, Keith -- LPIC-2, MCSE, N+ Got spam? Get spastic http://spastic.sourceforge.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Loadlin alternatives
On Wednesday 29 May 2002 10:07 am, DSC Siltec wrote: Snip But anyhow, since Loadlin won't work, I'd like to know about other bootup options. Mike. I don't have a hard drive inside my computer. Instead I have three hard drives each in a removeable tray (caddy). There is one slot on the front of my machine, into which a tray can be plugged. Each drive is self-contained with a different operating system, and I simply plug in which ever OS I want to use. I think this is better than dual or triple booting as the different systems are completely separate. I have used this method for some time, without any problems. Just a thought as an alternative. Keith -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Can't install Potato
A newcomer to Debian would like some help, please. I have been using Linux for some time (mainly the various versions of SuSE) and would like to try Debian. However, I can't get it to install. The version is Potato and I am using three Official i386 binary disks. It is on its own hard drive, no dual booting. I install from disk1. All is well at first, and here is what I get when it starts going wrong. (A list of packages scrolls through, too quickly and too long to read) E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1). Some errors occurred while unpacking. I'm going to configure the packages that were installed. This may result in duplicate errors or errors caused by missing dependances. This is OK, only the errors above this message are imported. Please fix them and run Install again. Enter to continue. (I pressed Enter) (I then set Default paper and configured WVdial.) Setting up ports. Setting up x-server-vga16. No default x server previously set, or previous default removed. Do you want to make the VGA16 server the default? (I selected Yes). Do you want to create the XFree86 configuration file? (Yes) X11TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111 (This line is repeated ten times) The /etc/X11/XF86 config file was not created. Unable to communicate with Xserver. And there is stops! Pressing Enter just brings up the multiple X11Trans -- error message again. I have tried installing Debian several times, but each time it just gets as far as this. The only way out is to do a soft reboot with the computer's reboot button. When I reboot and log in, it's in text mode. If I try to get into graphics mode, I get the message: Could not find config file. Tried: /etc/XF86Config /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XF86Config.debian /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XF86Config Fatal server error. Sorry this is such a long posting, but I wanted to include as much information as possible. Please could someone tell me what is going wrong and how to overcome it? In simple Debian-newbie language, please! I can't find an answer in either the archives or the installation manual. Many thanks in anticipation Keith -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dual Boot with XP
Hi, A quick question. This weekend I need to install Debian and Win XP on the same machine (XP on hda1 and Linux on hdb1-7). I want to know if the procedure is the same as it was when I last did this, with Windows NT, by creating a bootsect.lnx file and editing c:\boot.ini to point at the linux installation, or has XP made it harder to do? Keith -- Keith O'Connell. Maidstone, Kent. (UK) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Dual Boot with XP
Steve, Better yet, add this to /etc/lilo.conf: other=/dev/hda1 label=WinXP This works splendidly for me. YMMV. I am surprised - I was under the impression that XP was hostile to Linux and you had to be sneaky to get it to work. So, am I right then; 1: install XP to hda1 2: install Debian to hdb1-7 3: install lilo to hda 4: edit lilo.conf as above 5: run lilo 6: reboot and select as appropriate Is the right things in the right order? Keith. -- Keith O'Connell. Maidstone, Kent. (UK) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: debian-beer (was Re: wrapping [was: Re: disable paragraphflows in mozilla?])
Dale Hair [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: CIA's School of the Americas trained military men from most countries in South America in torturing and dirty war techniques. US supported economically and politically all of the coups d'etat during the '70s, mainly to stop the lefty political movements and guerrillas. But is life there better now than it was then? (probably) What would life be like in those countries now if the communist dictators were still in power. War and conflicts are hell, but it's sometimes necessary for a better future. In the cases of Guatemala and Chile, the USA sponsored coups against democratically elected governments that replaced them with dictators. -- Keith Willoughby I couldn't even find anything to read. The hotel shop only had two decent books and I'd written both of them. - Douglas Adams -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Apache libphp4.so
On Mon, Apr 15, 2002 at 11:41:35PM -0700, Roy Pluschke wrote: Hi there, I am having a hard time loading the php4 module into apache. snip # LoadModule eaccess_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_eaccess.so LoadModule php4_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/libphp4.so # LoadModule roaming_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_roaming.so I have confirmed that libphp4.so exists in this location however, when I run apacheconfig, part of the output looks like this # LoadModule php4_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/libphp4.so Pondering done. Save these changes to the configuration files? [Y/n] Did you resolve this problem? I recently upgraded to woody from potato and when I did an apacheconfig it broke php - exactly as you've described. Everything *seems* to be correct, though obviously it is not. So, if you did resolve this, I would be grateful to hear what you did. I've been banging my head against this for half a day. Thanks in advance, Keith -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
serving the web without a web server
Hi, I have something bizarre happening: I serve some web sites, including http://www.dynamiccompany.co.uk and even though I've stopped apache (apachectl stop), I can still ping the web site: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ping www.dynamiccompany.co.uk PING dynamiccompany.co.uk (213.131.168.136): 56 data bytes 64 bytes from 213.131.168.136: icmp_seq=0 ttl=245 time=27.8 ms 64 bytes from 213.131.168.136: icmp_seq=1 ttl=245 time=23.0 ms --- dynamiccompany.co.uk ping statistics --- 2 packets transmitted, 2 packets received, 0% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max = 23.0/25.4/27.8 ms [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ So, I do a traceroute (from a remote box): [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ traceroute www.dynamiccompany.co.uk traceroute to dynamiccompany.co.uk (213.131.168.136), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets 1 172.20.103.254 (172.20.103.254) 9.735 ms 25.230 ms 10.375 ms 2 rdg-cam1-a-fa00.inet.ntl.com (213.105.91.49) 10.078 ms 14.060 ms 12.956 ms 3 bre-t2core-a-pos49.inet.ntl.com (62.253.64.165) 10.900 ms 18.956 ms 50.684 ms 4 bre-bb-a-so-330-0.inet.ntl.com (62.253.185.57) 12.658 ms 13.755 ms 14.886 ms 5 gfd-bb-b-so-700-0.inet.ntl.com (213.105.172.150) 15.009 ms 15.474 ms 25.388 ms 6 linx-ic-2-so-100-0.inet.ntl.com (62.253.185.74) 18.645 ms 55.592 ms 15.737 ms 7 linx4.newnet.co.uk (195.66.225.131) 20.428 ms 16.976 ms 27.521 ms 8 atm1.th.newnet.co.uk (212.87.77.21) 18.044 ms 17.804 ms 20.383 ms 9 atm1.cams.newnet.co.uk (212.87.77.154) 19.826 ms 27.832 ms 19.748 ms 10 my web server Of these, only 172.20.103.254 is unknown whois 172.20.103.254: IANA (IANA-BBLK-RESERVED) Internet Assigned Numbers Authority 4676 Admiralty Way, Suite 330 Marina del Rey, CA 90292-6695 US Netname: IANA-BBLK-RESERVED Netblock: 172.16.0.0 - 172.31.255.255 Coordinator: Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (IANA-ARIN) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (310) 823-9358 Domain System inverse mapping provided by: BLACKHOLE-1.IANA.ORG 192.0.32.18 BLACKHOLE-2.IANA.ORG 192.0.32.19 These blocks are reserved for special purposes. Please see RFC 1918 for additional information. So, are ntl or newnet (where the box is located) caching (aggressively) or is there a different issue? Can anybody else ping www.dynamiccompany.co.uk (who aren't with ntl) - this could at least remove ntl from the equation. Any thoughts? I'm a bit stumped. All help greatly appreciated. Keith -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: serving the web without a web server
On Tue, May 21, 2002 at 05:12:04PM -0500, Jamin W. Collins wrote: On Tue, 21 May 2002 23:05:18 +0100 Keith Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have something bizarre happening: I serve some web sites, including http://www.dynamiccompany.co.uk and even though I've stopped apache (apachectl stop), I can still ping the web site: Apache has nothing to do with whether a system responds to a ping. If the network interface is up, properly configured, has a valid IP and no filters it will respond to ping requests. (snip) So, I do a traceroute (from a remote box): Same holds true for traceroute. (snip) So, are ntl or newnet (where the box is located) caching (aggressively) Most likely not the case. (snip) Any thoughts? I'm a bit stumped. Might want to take a look at the Networking HOWTO. Ofcourse - doh! Thanks. However, the site is still accessible through a browser, despite hard refreshes. So, since I am not serving it, then I was thinking that it might be cached (or perhaps something else) - and therefore not avaialbe to everybody? Any further thoughts? Thanks for your help so far, Keith -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: serving the web without a web server
On Tue, May 21, 2002 at 03:30:38PM -0700, Charles Baker wrote: --- Keith Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, May 21, 2002 at 05:12:04PM -0500, Jamin W. Collins wrote: On Tue, 21 May 2002 23:05:18 +0100 Keith Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have something bizarre happening: I serve some web sites, including http://www.dynamiccompany.co.uk and even though I've stopped apache (apachectl stop), I can still ping the web site: Apache has nothing to do with whether a system responds to a ping. If the network interface is up, properly configured, has a valid IP and no filters it will respond to ping requests. (snip) So, I do a traceroute (from a remote box): Same holds true for traceroute. (snip) So, are ntl or newnet (where the box is located) caching (aggressively) Most likely not the case. (snip) Any thoughts? I'm a bit stumped. Might want to take a look at the Networking HOWTO. Ofcourse - doh! Thanks. However, the site is still accessible through a browser, despite hard refreshes. So, since I am not serving it, then I was thinking that it might be cached (or perhaps something else) - and therefore not avaialbe to everybody? Any further thoughts? Thanks for your help so far, Keith SNIP I get connection refused. Are you sure _your_ browser hasn't cached the site? Absolutely. I just tried it from a different browser - both Mozilla and IE6 can access it, even when I try shift-refresh. If others can't access it, then it seems to me that ntl might well be doing some serious caching - or perhaps they've broken something. Keith -- Keith Robinson -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: serving the web without a web server
On Tue, May 21, 2002 at 11:41:09PM +0100, Keith Robinson wrote: On Tue, May 21, 2002 at 03:30:38PM -0700, Charles Baker wrote: --- Keith Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, May 21, 2002 at 05:12:04PM -0500, Jamin W. Collins wrote: On Tue, 21 May 2002 23:05:18 +0100 Keith Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have something bizarre happening: I serve some web sites, including http://www.dynamiccompany.co.uk and even though I've stopped apache (apachectl stop), I can still ping the web site: Apache has nothing to do with whether a system responds to a ping. If the network interface is up, properly configured, has a valid IP and no filters it will respond to ping requests. (snip) So, I do a traceroute (from a remote box): Same holds true for traceroute. (snip) So, are ntl or newnet (where the box is located) caching (aggressively) Most likely not the case. (snip) Any thoughts? I'm a bit stumped. Might want to take a look at the Networking HOWTO. Ofcourse - doh! Thanks. However, the site is still accessible through a browser, despite hard refreshes. So, since I am not serving it, then I was thinking that it might be cached (or perhaps something else) - and therefore not avaialbe to everybody? Any further thoughts? Thanks for your help so far, Keith SNIP I get connection refused. Are you sure _your_ browser hasn't cached the site? Absolutely. I just tried it from a different browser - both Mozilla and IE6 can access it, even when I try shift-refresh. If others can't access it, then it seems to me that ntl might well be doing some serious caching - or perhaps they've broken something. Just tried it with lynx and things are as they should be (as it doesn't use ntl) - nothing there! Guess I'll get on to ntl tomorrow and see what they have to say. Thanks for all the help from everybody. It was appreciated. Keith -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: serving the web without a web server
Keith Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just tried it with lynx and things are as they should be (as it doesn't use ntl) - nothing there! Guess I'll get on to ntl tomorrow and see what they have to say. IIRC, ntl do transparent caching of http traffic. -- Keith Willoughby Fans still speak in hushed tones of the day that Una Stubbs, her hands a blur, managed Three Men In A Boat in less than 90 seconds - I'm Sorry I Haven't A Clue -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fetchmail
Hi, I am newish and have just installed Woody onto two machines at home and I am having a few mail hic-cups. I noticed that there was a global fetchmail facility which I read up on and duly got working. I used to use fetchmail as a user and set a cron job to down load the mail every 10 min, but the global fetchmail options takes care of its own scheduling. What I want to know is, how often does it download mail, and how can I change this time gap? I don't desperately want to change it as it is working fine, I just want to know how it works. Secondly I use one of two machines at any one time and they are setup is the same. I have found that exporting /var/mail from the machine that runs fetchmail enables me to have my mail from which ever machine I book on to. What I want to know is, is this the right way to do it? What is considered the correct/safest/best way to share mail for users across a number of machines? Keith -- Keith O'Connell. Maidstone, Kent. (UK) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Boot Disks
Hi, I have clearly misunderstood the making of boot disks and would like some guidance. I made some for each machine here in case or emergency, and thought I would test them, and each one halted with a kernel panic. I assumed that a floppy in the drive of a working machine followed by the command mkboot as root would create a boot disk from the currently running kernel. The disk booted to a panic. I read over the rather small man page and tried the full complement of switches of mkboot -r /dev/hda3 -i /vmlinuz but still there is a panic I have 2.2.20 and 2.4.28 on each machine, and want to be able to use a floppy to boot one kernel and another floppy to boot another kernel. How do I make these disks? I have tried the man pages and the books on the shelf, but I am not getting it. What is the right way to create the floppy disks I want? Anyone? Keith -- Keith O'Connell. Maidstone, Kent. (UK) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mgetty + pppd on woody
Michael Madden wrote: I've setup mgetty pppd to allow incoming connections to my home computer with a broadband connection. I can successfully dial up, login, and obtain an ip address, but I can only connect (ping, ftp, telnet, etc) to the box I dialed into. I cannot connect to other boxes on my lan or connect to the internet. Is there something more I need to setup on my Debian Woody machine to allow outbound connections? 'defaultroute' in the relevant /etc/ppp/ options file? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
IRC
Hi, I am curious to take a look at IRC, something I have never taken much interest in before. As I use exclusively Gnome, I was wondering if people could make a suggestion as to their favourite gnome based clients, that can be found in woody Anyone? Keith -- Keith O'Connell. Maidstone, Kent. (UK) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
startx gnome
Hi, Up until now I have always had gdm running to allow me to pick my environment. Now I find that I need to start X with startx. This is fine, except that it starts KDE and I want it to start Gnome. Could someone guide me as to how to have Gnome as the default when startx is invoked? Thank you. Keith. -- Keith O'Connell. Maidstone, Kent. (UK) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: startx gnome
David, David Bridges [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can change the session manager with update-alternatives --config x-session-manager and the x-window-manager with update-alternatives --config x-window-manager Thank you - Exactly what I was after! :-) Another day over - another lesson learnt! Goodnight Keith. -- Keith O'Connell. Maidstone, Kent. (UK) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Debian Planet
Hi, I haven't be able to get a squeak from Debian Planet for about 4 days now. Is anyone else getting it? If not do we know when it is likely to be back? Keith -- Keith O'Connell. Maidstone, Kent. (UK) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mailing List and Newsgruops
Hi, Can someone advise me, assuming a good newsgroup feed\supplier, a: What is the realistic lag between messages in the mailing list and in linux.debian.user news group? b: Do all the messages sent to the mailing list get to the newsgroup? c: Can a person write to the mailing list by posting to the newsgroup? As must be apparent, I am thinking of taking this mailing list via newsgroups and I just want to see the down side, if any. Keith -- Keith O'Connell. Maidstone, Kent. (UK) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
LPRng and remote printers
Hi, I have 3 machines here all running Woody and a HP Deskjet attached to one of them. I obviously want all of them to be able to print to the printer. I have spent way to much time trying to get it to work and now am just making the same mistakes over and over. I cannot see the wood for the trees, and would appreciate some guidance. First off I have the printcap for the machine to which the printer is attached aragorn. It works perfectly. Local printing is fine. The printcap was built by lprngtool; lp :sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp :sh :ml=0 :mx=0 :af=/var/spool/lpd/lp/acct :lf=/var/spool/lpd/lp/log :cd=/var/spool/lpd/lp :lp=/dev/lp0 :if=/usr/share/lprngtool/master-filter : The print cap I am trying to use for each of the other machines is: rlp :lp=:\ :rm=aragorn:\ :rp=lp:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/remote:\ :mx#0:\ :sh: Something is fundamentally wrong, and it is me, but I could appreciate a point in the right direction. Thanks Keith -- Keith O'Connell. Maidstone, Kent. (UK) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: LPRng and remote printers
On Sat, 4 May 2002 14:05:34 +0200 Hans Gubitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hans, Have a look at /etc/lprng/lpd.perms Du you have a line in it like: REJECT NOT SERVER Yes I do! Is this good or bad? Are we making progress here? Keith -- Keith O'Connell. Maidstone, Kent. (UK) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
GnomeCal and Evolution
Hi, I have just reinstalled Woody from scratch and there is a small cosmetic feature in Gnome. On the menu panel is a small clock that is a fixture to the panel at the right hand side. It pulls up a small PIM called gnomecal, but it would seem that gnomecal is balking at my setup. I get an error message of; Gdk-WARNING ** locale not supported by C library Segmentation fault How do I fix this as I am assuming this is a symptom of a bigger problem waiting to bite me, or better still is possible to get evolution to come up instead when the clock is selected Keith? -- Keith O'Connell. Maidstone, Kent. (UK) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Nautilus Help
I have just started to use Nautilus and I really rather like it, I especially like the Help tab and the way it supplies you with all the help docs, What I find strange that only a few of the docs come up when selected and that what normally happens is path/file name appears in the location bar at the top of the page and what I then have to do if I want to read it is type, file:// at the front of it each time! This cannot be right, am I likly to have missed something obvious here? Anyone advise me? Keith -- Keith O'Connell. Maidstone, Kent. (UK) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]