Re: Thread supplicate
On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 10:32:34AM +0200, Srdja Micic wrote: > Hi, when I was about 16 I made an thread on your site, a rather bad one, with > lots of question and exclamation marks etc., with my real name. Every time > somebody googles me, that thread shows up. Is there any possiblity that you > could erase that thread. It would really mean a lot to me in terms of future > employment. > > The thread in question: > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2001/04/msg04273.html > > > Thank you very much! I looked at the message with the help of google translate and it didnt look that bad to me. It also looks like you sent this message to more people than was needed. I'm not a Debian project member but from reading past messages about similar requires, they usually dont delete posts as that is not the nature of Debian, it defaults to 'open', and also the fact that your post would be mirrored to more places, so you'd still have to ask every other website to do it to be truly effective. Another good point to learn is about anonymity, pseudonymity and the need to create less traceable aliases on the internet. Because when we are only allowed to use 'real names' on web site, your problem is made worse, and its even worse for people who are part of minority groups or under military regimes. - | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux ==.| http://kevix.myopenid.com..| | : :' : The Universal OS| mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/.| | `. `' http://www.debian.org/.| http://counter.li.org [#238656]| |___`-Unless I ask to be CCd,.assume I am subscribed._| A shortcut is the longest distance between two points. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120729010615.GA4300@horacrux
Re: PDF is blocked for printing, etc. OK for acroread (it behaves as expected), but KPDF allows me to print it, even if it is protected! Why?
On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 10:39:03PM +0700, Mikhail Gusarov wrote: > > Twas brillig at 17:32:51 19.04.2010 UTC+02 when > luca.mercia...@student.ulg.ac.be did gyre and gimble: > > >> Pdf "anti-features" are fake security. Don't trust on them, never. > ML> And what do you suggest if one wants some real protection _and_ the > ML> benefits of a format like PDF? Thanks. > > There is no "real" protection. > > -- > http://fossarchy.blogspot.com/ This is one of the reasons why people who seek to use DRM will not allow their software to be made for Free Software Platforms. DRM is not in the best interest of the users/re-users of content. And by adding DRM, you tell the user that he/she did not buy the content but is renting it until you decide otherwise. People have proven, again and again, that they are capable of circumventing DRM, so it is not an issue of 'if' they will break DRM but when. And it only hinders legitimate user of your content, those who wish to follow these restrictions. From my recollection, KPDF has an option to 'enable' the compliance with the 'do not print' feature. But it is not enabled by default. -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | http://kevix.myopenid.com | | : :' : The Universal OS| mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/ | | `. `' http://www.debian.org/ | http://counter.li.org [#238656]| |___`-Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed _| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100419164528.gd5...@horacrux
Re: Root sending messages to users
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 12:09:09PM +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote: > Thanks, all. xmessage seems to work fine for popping up simple > one-liners, which is exactly what I had wanted to do. talk and write > may be of use in the future, however. Thanks. I am partial to computer-generated speech. I use espeak/festival to announce things(time, battery %). Dont know about non-english speech support. I also stated to use teamspeak(client & server voice chat) for long-distance communication. Have it 'on' on both systems like a walkie-talkie/intercom/etc.. (not free software but free as in beer for most basic use) -K -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Strange directory in home
On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 08:49:22PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: > On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 13:48:59 -0400, Frank McCormick wrote: > > Lately,I've been noticing a strange directory popping up in my home > > directory. It's called "file:" and has subdirectories of home , > > home/frank , and Desktop with Desktop empty. > > I have deleted it several times but it keeps re-appearing. > > > > Can anyone explain this ? > > The name "file:" reminds me of how file managers sometimes refer to > local files in their address/location bar. Some application might > misunderstand expressions such as "file:///home/frank/Desktop" and > therefore create spurious directories and files in your home directory. > > You could try to catch processes that access these directories/files > with lsof or fuser, maybe in combination with inotify-wait (package > inotify-tools). > > -- > Regards,| http://users.icfo.es/Florian.Kulzer > Florian | > I was thinking a cron script that does 'ls $FILENAME' every 15 minutes and appends the result in a log file. then maybe add a log of 'ps -A f' when you figure what hour it appears to see what is running. -K -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to install a small graphic manager
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 02:42:55PM +0100, abelahcene wrote: > Hi, > I have a miniPc, can't install the heavy gnome or kde on it . I want to > install a just graphic , in fact I want to use it , just to display a > window . Any small WM will be OK. > > So I have to install the system whitout X, and complete it with small X > later, I don't know what are the required packages to run correctly the > X. > > thanks for reply > bela > Define small. I run X and fvwm on my XO-1 with etch. Its specs are 700mhz/256MB ram/1GB SDD. iirc it etch was like 300mb or so. -k -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Project's Colaboration
On Sun, Jun 08, 2008 at 06:23:07PM -0700, gaston Rey wrote: > Hi people, as you all I'm a Linux fun, but I need a recommendation from you. > What I mean is that I'm a fun but I have never programmed or collaborated > directly in linux projects, could you recommend a Guide or amything like that > to know how to start making a debug or what program use to debug and run > software made in C/C++? > My knowledge is only working with Java and Netbeans but I want to begin > debuging, changing and improve linux aplications but in C/C++. > > Please help me to find out a Guide and software to get this skills! :D > > Bye, Salu2 I guess you can look for tutorials with gcc and gdb and then look for a 'beginners guide' to c and try some basic code to lean about compiling c. -K -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: USB for potato
On Fri, Jun 06, 2008 at 12:46:36PM -0500, Fabio Guerinoni wrote: > Hi, > I have an old computer, that I have resucitate not long ago, running > potato (Debian 2.2). I wanted to load a module, for a USB interface > storage. Apparently, nothing comes with the original distribution.. > .. and the packages that are listed under a search on the site, > do not seem appropriate because they need the debian-installer which comes > in the later distributions. > > Thank you, Fabio If you just need the data, you can remove the HD and find some thing like a HD enclosure to put it in. They you can attach the HD to some other machine and get the data. Just an more unusual option to consider. -K -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to display on another machine
On Wed, Jun 04, 2008 at 08:47:17AM +0100, abdelkader belahcene wrote: > Hi everybody, > I want to run a program and display the graph on another machine. > I declared : > export DISPLAY=192.168.10.10:0.0 > ran on the local machine ( which not 192.168.10.10 ) > gedit > > I want to receive the output on the remote machine. The first > problem is to give probably password, ( the machine 192.168.10.10 must > accept the display) , > > > thanks for help Would this help: server A: 192.168.10.1 server B: 192.168.10.10 if you open an xterm on server B and run: server_b% ssh -X [EMAIL PROTECTED] server_a% mygraphicsprogram the output would display on server B. you would need to have an ssh server on server A and an ssh client on server B. --kev -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Homepage management system?
On Mon, Jun 02, 2008 at 10:33:12PM +0300, Micha wrote: > I am looking for some framework to allow easily setting up homepage for all > the > people in my uni lab. The idea is to setup some template that they can fill > out > as no one is getting around to it > > (A home page, publications page, not much more) > > Preferably I want something that can be setup in a user html directory and not > run it's own server. That is either a program to allow the easy generation > and maintenance of webpages based on templates or some content management > system that is easy to setup and can preferably be installed and run for a > user > public_html directory (i.e based on php or cgi scripts and not it's own > server) > as it would reduce the bureaucracy of trying to convince the university to > give > us web access to one of the lab computers. > > I'm afraid that I don't have the time to design and write the template myself > so I need something ready-made. > Would a Wiki fill this need. Once it is setup, the basic syntax is not hard (eg. wikipedia) and would allow folks to get up some basic home page and links to publication in an hour. And you could later add a more professional apperance with a offical uni header with a logo etc. All you need is a basic http server and a wiki engine which should be relatively painless on any Linux server like Debian. You would presumedly just ask them to install the wiki software assuming they already had it setup with apache. -K -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What packages has aptitude installed on my server?
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 05:15:06PM -0700, Kelly Jones wrote: > I often do "aptitude install package" to install a package. > > Cow can I get a list of all the packages I've installed this way? > > Looking at /var/cache/apt/archives seems like a kludge? > > -- dpkg --get-selections -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: configuration file for mousepad
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 08:08:25PM -0700, PETER EASTHOPE wrote: > There is a configuration file for Mousepad but the man page > contains only the name of the author. Can anyone tell whether > the default starting directory can be recorded; if so, how. > > Sorry for the meaningless subject line in my previous message. > Will send it again with the correct subject in a week or so. > > Thanks,... Peter E. > sounds like a bug report is in order. -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DRM PDFs (and SED and ETD ...)
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 10:19:39AM +0100, Adam Hardy wrote: > Johannes Wiedersich on 29/05/08 14:03, wrote: >> - From Adobe's web site: >> http://www.adobe.com/products/digitaleditions/systemreqs/ >> >> it appears this 'feature' is only available for Wind0w$ and Mac l00sers. >> >> I guess you are out of luck here. >> >> Since it appears to contradict the mission of the British Library [1] >> that the part of the population that uses linux and/or other OS is >> excluded from this service, I would complain directly. I don't think >> this will solve your problems in the short term, but hopefully in the >> long term... >> >> YMMV, good luck, >> >> Johannes >> >> [1] http://www.bl.uk/aboutus/foi/overview/index.html > > Is there a linux evangelism group somewhere who would be interested in this? Just find the folks who want the bbc to make iplayer linux compatible? -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Laptop external display not showing mouse pointer
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 12:45:13PM -0400, Curt Howland wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Is this some kind of "feature" for not cluttering an overhead > projector with a mouse cursor when doing presentations? Package: unclutter Description: hides the cursor in X after a period of inactivity unclutter hides your X mouse cursor when you don't need it, to prevent it from getting in the way. You have only to move the mouse to restore the mouse cursor. -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Compilation on Big Endian platforms
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 05:15:51PM +0200, Mathieu Malaterre wrote: > Hi there, > > I was wondering what would be the easiest way to try my code on a > big endian machine. I thought of buying a cheap G4 mac mini on ebay, > install linux and then compile my project. But those machine are still > a bit expensive for my budget. I have not investigated yet but is > there a way to emulate big endian on little endian machine (boch, xen, > vmware...). > > Thanks ! > -- > Mathieu http://www.emdebian.org/tools.html -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: save mail
On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 03:23:16PM +, Stephane Durieux wrote: > Hello, > > Newbie question: > > What would you recommend to save mails. (I don t think it matters but I use > postfix, courier-imap) > I ve heard of mail sync for email but don t wanna used this solution to begin. > A backup to a disk would be good for me. > > The question I wonder is : > What happen when a cron task is launched and that a mail is about to be > delivered. > Is it queued again ? > Or perhaps worse, if a mail is about to be delivered and a cron task (backup > task) is starting > > More generally, can you explain me the mecanism of locks > > I use maildirs but I would like also know how to do for mailboxes > > > Thanks for reply > I like 'archivemail'. It works on both maildir and mbox. -k -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] FOSS Marketplace
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 05:08:57PM +0200, Samuel Bächler wrote: > Hi everyone > > I am using debian etch for everyday task since 2005. As more > as I learn about computer I realize that one can do all the things > on e can do with the other proprietary systems. The only drawback > of FOSS is that it is sometimes harder to configure. The idea which > came to my mind some time ago was to establish a marketplace > where "geeks" meet "normal" users. > On the marketplace people could ask: "Who can set up a mythTV > media center for me?" Questions like this aren't asked on lists > (e.g. debian-users) which brought myself to the idea that maybe > there is a market for such problems. > Such a marketplace would help to promote FOSS. A drawback of it > is that money is going to be involved but probably this kind of > drawback will be reduced by an intelligent control structures. > Does something like this already exist in the FOSS world? Do you > consider this as a rather sound or a rather stupid idea? > > Cheers One of the mainstays of the FLOSS world is the installfest. These are used to help new users install a free operating system. But it has also included other things: - help a user solve an existing problem - mull over the latest in FLOSS developments over a (root)beer. - ask for advice about hardware - expand and reinforce the community aspect of FLOSS - etc. Since supposedly every family uses Vista and has some relative to 'support' the family PC, it has always been part of the mission to have some local community to support those folks who use FLOSS. Sometimes its an installfest, a LUG, or SIG. -K -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: blogging - alternative packages
On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 11:41:43PM -0500, Russell L. Harris wrote: > I am in search of a simplified approach to blog maintenance. At the > present time, I have a blog which is maintained with WordPress. > > WordPress rapidly is increasing in complexity because features are > being added. The procedure for backing up and restoring the MySQL > data base is complex. And with the complexity comes the need for > frequent updates of the WordPress software; this is becoming a hassle. > > My blog is strictly for my own posts; I have no need for visitor > comments or uploads. Static pages are adequate, and I can maintain my > own index to blog articles on the first page of the blog. > > At this point, I am thinking that my blogging needs could be served > adequately with a set of very simple web pages. The only problem I > see is the need to create an RSS feed for the blog. > > Am I overlooking something? Or should I look to blogging software to > replace WordPress? > > Is there a simple open-source RSS feed generator for such an > application? > > RLH Two recent Debian-grown things: cronicle and ikiwiki. -K -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: usb dial up modem?
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 08:45:49PM -0400, ISHWAR RATTAN wrote: > > Any one using USR5633b USB dialup exyernal modem with Linux? > I am looking for one that will work under Linux > as the new computer does not have serial ports! > > Do these modem need a special driver? > -ishwar >From what I'd skimmed, you can get a usb-to-serial adapter for an already existing 'old school' serial modem. Maybe under $20 USD? -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is it a bug for Evolution's vertical scroll bar in email list view?
On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 12:33:56AM -0700, Wu Kejia wrote: > Hi all, > > I use evolution as email client. The vertical scroll bar in the mails > list view is always stocked. I can not move it. > > Anybody has the same problem? My box is sparc blade 150. > > Another problem: if I wish to remove Evolution, how should I do? That > remove operation always remove the whole gnome desktop (such as gdm), > too. > > Thanks for any response. Debian has meta-packages like 'gnome' that make it easier to install the gnome desktop. But these only allow you to keep all the listed packages or none of them. So if you want more control, you can remove the meta-package and install the indivisual packages and manage them yourself. There are also 'smaller' versions like gnome-core and gnome-desktop-environment that install a smaller group of packages. use 'apt-cache show gnome' to see more info. =K -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: where did www.debian.org/security/key-rollover/ go?
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 08:20:55PM +0200, Rody wrote: > > In response to the latest security issue with ssl / ssh, i updated my > packages > with the new fixed versions of ssl. However the steps to regenerate the keys > are not available on: > www.debian.org/security/key-rollover/ > as the security advisory tells us. > According to google, the page did exist 4 hours ago, but right now it's a > dead > link. It could be because of the actions of the DSA, security folks, who are scrambling to address the need to make new keys for all Debian servers after a issue was found with random-number generation. I read about it on debian-infrastructure-announce and debian-devel. -K -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Comcast, Verizon and Google censoring the internet?
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 07:10:10PM +0100, Pigeon wrote: > Yeah, tin foil hats on... but SOMETHING weird is going on > and I suspect this is the best place to find people who can > tell me what. And after all my webserver does run Debian :-) > > I've been noticing some very strange activity in my webserver > logs over the last few days. It only seems to happen to > people using American ISPs, mostly Comcast and Verizon. > > What happens is I get a sequence of requests > for all the images off the root page of my website > http://pigeonsnest.co.uk - and only that site, it doesn't > seem to be happening to any others. The requests come in > the usual order corresponding to the order in which the > HTML references them, and have the expected Referer: > header of http://pigeonsnest.co.uk/ . But there is no > request for the actual HTML page, only the images off it. > > Sometimes the sequence of requests for the images is > immediately preceded - as in so close in time that > the process forked to serve it gets the immediately > preceding process ID - by a request for the HTML page > which comes from an IP owned by Google. > > So it looks like Comcast, Verizon and some others are > somehow proxying the requests for my HTML via some > server owned by Google. And unlike a normal proxy, > it caches the HTML for a long time but the images > not at all. > > And it's not people reading the cached copy of my > site from the "Cached" link on a google search. When > people do that it is obvious from the Referer: headers. > > And I can't see any reason why ISPs would proxy the > requests for the HTML and not the images unless they're > doing some kind of content filtering or censorship on > the HTML. How do I know that what Comcast/Verizon/etc > customers are seeing is what I published? > > No doubt there will be several Comcast and Verizon > customers reading this message so I hope some people > will have some useful input. Hi P, I use Google Reader which is an RSS reader, maybe its doing this? Or maybe someone is using your images on another website? I'm on verizon, is there something I can test? -K -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt-get question..
On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 04:10:38PM -0400, Ishwar Rattan wrote: > > > On Mon, 12 May 2008, Ron Johnson wrote: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 05/12/08 13:48, ISHWAR RATTAN wrote: >>> >>> I have a debian system installed and want to dist >>> upgrade it, BUT I want apt--get dist-upgrade to upgrade >>> only the installed debs and not to download everything >>> under the sun! >>> >>> Is such a thing possible? >> >> Define "download everything under the sun!". I say that, because a >> dist-uprade *must* download all necessary packages. > > Thanks that is clear now. If you want less stuff installed, then you can tell aptitude not to install 'recommends', -K -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Realtek ALC662 microphone on Etch?
On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 09:15:06PM +0200, Kum Gabor wrote: > Hi All! > > I've got an Asus M2N-MX motherboard, and sound works well with 2.8.22 kernel > from backports. Only I've got one problem: microphone doesn't want to work > for me. > If my information is good, ASUS EEPC has similar sound chip too. Does anybody > use this with Etch? > > Regards, If it uses the same card, you can read what is on wiki.debian.org. search for 'eeepc' and you should find the Debian EEEPC pages. -K -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How do I get my Wintv PR USB2 card to work under Debian
On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 10:25:04PM -0400, Norberto Feliberty wrote: > > Hi, I have a PVR USB2 tv card by Hauppauge and would like to know how do I > enable this device in Debain. I am trying to wath tv with my card using vlc > but when I try to open the tv card to watch tv, I get a message saying > Unable to open 'pvr://' How to I check the kernel to see if it is enabled in > the kernel. Thanks. > > [http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/betathanks/download/images/download_2.jpg] here are things to help us: do: plug in the usb tv card % lsusb give us the output % tail -15 /var/log/messages give us this output (as root) these who should give messages if the kernel found the card, loaded a driver and created a device in /dev/ -K -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Option to call apt install package to local directory
On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 02:27:15PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 09:00:33PM +1000, hce wrote: > > Hi, > > > > What is the command to make "apt-get install package" to install the > > package to my local directory rather than /usr? > > I don't know of any such option for dpkg (which is what apt uses to > actually install the packages), but maybe you should explain what your > real goal is. The Filesystem Hierarchy Standard (see 'man hier') was > created for a purpose. > There are 2 things related to the OP request: A)download the DEB to an alternative location B)install the DEB to an alternative location A is possible. B has limitations like the FHS. -K -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: decoding
On Fri, May 09, 2008 at 07:31:52PM -0400, Frank McCormick wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Someone sent me an email which **appears* to be base64 encoded? > > > here's the first few lines: > > - --Boundary_(ID_lsgMnwyfMlYdcpjna13q/Q) > Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > Content-language: > Content-transfer-encoding: base64 > > U29tZSBSZWFsbHkgR3JlYXQgTW9tZW50cyBvZiBSYWRpbyB0aGlzIHdlZWsuIFdlIGhlYXJkIGZy > b20gaW5zaWRlIEJ1cm1hIGEgUXVlYmVjZXIncyBmaXJzdCBoYW5kIGFjY291bnQuIFdlIGxhdWdo > ZWQgb3ZlciB0aGUgVm9nZWwgZmFtaWx5J3Mgc3RpbGwgZHVyaW5nIFByb2hpYml0aW9uIGFuZCB3 > > > > It ends with : > > > - --Boundary_(ID_Ta8U5Dd8tk/FeCjCVPGiyw)-- > > - --Boundary_(ID_lsgMnwyfMlYdcpjna13q/Q)-- > > > Base64 doesn't know what to do with this file. >From what I recall, you but the stuff in a seperate file, say base64.txt and then use uudecode on it. -K -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: migrating Debian GNU/Linux Etch to second SATA drive
On Thu, May 08, 2008 at 11:12:30PM +0200, Paul Csanyi wrote: > Hello! > > cd / > mount -t ext3 /dev/discs/disc1/part1 /mnt > # this is the / partition of the sdb > mount -t ext3 /dev/discs/disc1/part2 /mnt/usr > # this is the /usr partition of the sdb > mount -t proc proc /mnt/proc > mount -t sysfs sys /mnt/sys > mount -o bind /dev /mnt/dev > chroot /mnt /bin/bash > > > But, I can't to install grub to boot sdb root from the sda MBR. > > Any advices will be appreciated! > Is the partition mounted rw ? -K -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Iceweasel's UserAgent
On Thu, May 08, 2008 at 08:09:12AM -0300, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: > KS wrote: > > Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: > > > >> This is interesting. I've changed the UserAgent to say Firefox instead > >> of Iceweasel and that triangle is present (which I had never noticed, to > >> say the truth, but is very nice), and other sites which did not > >> recognize Iceweasel now work. > >> > >> Which leads to the question: Shouldn't Iceweasel at least advertise > >> itself as Firefox? Because after all it _is_ Firefox, only with a > >> different name. > >> > >> > >> > > > > Pretty sure that Mozilla.com won't allow that. Primarily because Firefox > > is their trademark. > > > > I'm no lawyer, but I doubt this is trademark infringement. It's like > saying "This browser is similar to Firefox" or "based on Firefox", at > least that's how I understand it. Mozilla made the use of the Firefox brand contingent upon certain conditions like using the lastest versions of Firefox to address security issues instead of allowing Debian to address them for the stable versions. Debian did not agree to all the conditions and thus Iceweasel was born. -k -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Iceweasel's UserAgent
On Thu, May 08, 2008 at 01:02:48PM -0500, Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote: > On 08/05/2008, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "We do not support Iceweasel/Firefox/Linux etc., We only support M$ IE." > > I think you should consider not supporting that bank, then. > > - Jordi G. H. There are 2 approaches to affect problems: passive and active. The passive approach involves leaving and never telling why. The active approach involves making your reason known and optionally asking for an accommodation and then finally leaving. I used to try to 'fool' tech support into thinking that I used windows, but now I say I use linux and when they say 'we only support windows', I say my problem is not related to windows. -k -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Iceweasel's UserAgent
On Thu, May 08, 2008 at 08:13:53AM -0300, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: > Mumia W.. wrote: > > On 05/07/2008 05:23 PM, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: > >> [...] > >> Which leads to the question: Shouldn't Iceweasel at least advertise > >> itself as Firefox? > > > > No it should not. > > > >> Because after all it _is_ Firefox, only with a different name. > >> > >> > > > > That depends upon timing and perspective. In a real, legal and > > organizational sense, Iceweasel is a different web browser maintained > > by a different organization from Mozilla, and it should have a > > different name and advertise itself as what it is--a different web > > browser. > > > > However, history does show that Iceweasel shares some code with > > Firefox. History also shows that the Microsoft Internet Explorer > > shares some code with Spyglass and NCSA Mosaic. This does not justify > > MSIE advertising itself as anything other than "MSIE x.x." > > I see a difference. I believe that even at first release, MSIE was > already different enough from Mosaic. Even if not, nowadays it certainly is. > > If some day Iceweasel starts to change so much that it gets somewhat > different from Firefox, then it should not advertise itself as Firefox > anymore. However, as far as I know, Iceweasel is exactly Firefox without > the name and artwork, and with other quite small changes. > Rendering-wise, it is exactly the same. It was certainly not Debian's intention to make Iceweasel and it worked to alter just those few elements that it was forced to, namely the icon, name and branding. So Iceweasel is 99.9% Firefox. Ubuntu made different negotiations around the time of Iceweasel fiasco and avoided the name change. -K -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: usb to serial
On Sun, May 04, 2008 at 01:49:24PM +1000, Daniel Dalton wrote: > > I'm a blind debian user and therefore use a braille display. > So I need to connect it somehow. > The display is a piece of hardware that is usually connect with a serial > cable, but since my new box only has a usb available, no serial I must > use usb to serial. > So does anyone know of the following: > > - a supported usb to serial cable for linux that works with the kernel? > (If so could you please provide a model number or brand?) Or even better > if you know where I can get one of these from? > Perhaps you could show me an add on ebay? > (I had a look, but don't really understand the info and I am having > trouble using my computer obviously.) > - If the kernel supports it will a software daemon (brltty) support it? > > Thanks for any help, > BTW, sorry if there are basic mistakes in this writing, I only have a > basic or reasonably good tts package here and no braille... > > Cheers, > > -- Daniel Dalton > > http://members.iinet.net.au/~ddalton/ > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> See if this is helpful. http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/showdevcat.php?id=12 -Kev -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Not sure who this should be sent too.....?
On Fri, May 02, 2008 at 02:26:49PM +1000, Charlie wrote: > I get this error message when trying to open a recent document in LyX > > $ lyx > QPaintEngine::setSystemClip: Should not be changed while engine is active > QPaintEngine::setSystemClip: Should not be changed while engine is active > QWidgetPrivate::beginSharedPainter: Painter is already active > QWidgetPrivate::endSharedPainter: Attempting to end a null painter > QPaintEngine::setSystemClip: Should not be changed while engine is active > QPaintEngine::setSystemClip: Should not be changed while engine is active > QWidgetPrivate::beginSharedPainter: Painter is already active > > lyx: SIGSEGV signal caught > Sorry, you have found a bug in LyX. Please read the bug-reporting > instructions > in Help->Introduction and send us a bug report, if necessary. Thanks ! > Bye. > Aborted > > > But does this go to Debian or does this go to LyX? > > Anyone with an idea about this? > An error for LyX can be in the Debian version or the upstream. Since I usually dont know which is the cause, I send it to the debian package and see if they can suggest anything to help tell the difference. -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Replace Ubuntu with Debian
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 03:04:47PM -0400, Igor wrote: > I just purchased a Dell laptop with Ubuntu 7.10 preinstalled. What I > like about this setup is that all sorts of nifty things like the > wireless card and hibernate/suspend features are automatically set up. > However, I prefer the Debian package selection and frequency of > updates (I usually run unstable). Historically Ubuntu is sync'd with Debian unstable every six month and then they apply various and suntry pathes to create their release. This is the plan for the (current 2000) core packages. Then they try to integrate non-core packages from Debian by recompiling them using the Ubuntu toolchain to produce their 'universe' repositories. So you should be able to get those 'debian' packages from their universe repos. > > Can I take advantage of both worlds? That is, can I safely sync all my > packages with Debian's unstable repository while retaining all the > existing configurations? > > The obvious thing to do is to change the apt sources and run a > dist-upgrade. However, I'm a little paranoid that this is not entirely > safe and that it may leave my system in a broken state. Does anyone > have experience with this course of action or have better suggestions? > > Thanks in advance. In the beginning, the difference between Debian and Ubuntu was minimal, but as they progressed, they have diverged in many way. One current outstanding issue is the init script: they use 'upstart' and we use sysv. These are not compaible. And we use different toolchains, so their can be big differences there. Most Debian deriviates are divergent enough, they it is not worth it. If you can deal with the problems and don't mind the possible breakage, for a personal system, its your choice, but if you want stability, its a very bad move that neither group would recommend. -K -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Notebook Latitude D630 don't shutdown properly after update
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 07:02:35PM +, Marcelo wrote: > Kevin Mark verizon.net> writes: > > > Have you tried booting with the last kernel version and checking if this > > fixes the issue? > > Yes! I had been installed the kernel 2.6.22 and the problem persist! > > Marcelo Just to be clear: a) booting with the old kernel fixes the problem b) both the old and new kernel do not work -K -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Missing symbols: Spades, Hearts, Diamonds and Clubs
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 09:13:21AM -0400, Thomas H. George wrote: > I have some old win95 bridge programs I want to use. Wine installs, > loads and runs them perfectly except a box shape appears wherever a > symbol for spades, hearts, diamonds or clubs should appear. I have > tried using xfontsel to change the font the program in using without > success. It does not appear to change the font even in the terminal > window. I could use the programs if they would display any distinctly > different symbols for the card suits but at present I get the same box > shape for every suit symbol. > > Does anyone have a clue as to how I can get distinctive symbols? > > Tom Do you have this installed: xfonts-terminus-dos - Fixed-width fonts for DOS encodings -K -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Notebook Latitude D630 don't shutdown properly after update
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 02:44:29PM +, Marcelo wrote: > Hi, > > I am re-send because the problem remains. > > Have you a tip for me in this issue? > > Thank you a lot > > Marcelo Have you tried booting with the last kernel version and checking if this fixes the issue? -K -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mail-Followup-To and mutt [Was: Re: How to refresh Debian to install software set]
On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 09:51:03PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: > On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 21:43:58 +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 10:00:25PM -0400, Kevin Mark wrote: > > > > > > > |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| > > > > > > > > Your Mail-Followup-To header indicates that you want to be CC'ed. Is > > > > that true? [Sending this to you, but with M-F-T to the list.] > > > > > > > > Sven > > > Hi Sven, > > > I use mutt with 'L' for list reply. Is that the way to fix the m-f-t? > > > If not, what suggestion? > > > > Funny, I don't have this at all. If I recall correctly it is set when > > you 'subscribe' to a list in muttrc. I don't do that and I don't think > > it's really necessary anymore. > > If you do not explicitly "subscribe" (in ~/.muttrc) to a mailing list > then mutt will generate Mail-Followup-To headers for the list address > and for your personal address. It assumes that you are not subscribed > (in reality) to this list but you still want to receive reactions to > your mail directly: > > file:///usr/share/doc/mutt/html/reference.html#followup-to > file:///usr/share/doc/mutt/html/configuration.html#lists > > Something like > > subscribe '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > > should suppress the personal Mail-Followup-To header for all debian > lists. You can also use "unset followup_to", which will suppress the > generation of any Mail-Followup-To headers for mailing lists. For some now unknow reason, I changed my 'subscribe' lines to 'lists'. I will have to add them back. -K -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: External IP
On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 06:28:43AM +0530, L.V.Gandhi wrote: > On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 9:23 AM, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Daniel Ngu wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > How do I find out what's the dynamic IP I get when connected > > > to my ISP? I'm not broadband BTW. > > > > > > > I use > > links2 -dump checkip.dyndns.org | cut -f2 -d: > > To which package links2 belongs. How to find out for any command? I's try to hack together the above script with wget as it may be on more system. -K -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Phone lines network [is it possible ? ]
On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 11:50:28AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Saturday 26 April 2008 10:59:36 am Jabka Atu wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >> Hello .. > > >> > > >> Since in isreal most of the people connected to one compony (Bezeq) is > > >> it posible to use thous lines as LAN? . > > >> I understent that it will be really slow , but still is it even posible > > >> ? > > >> > > >> I found few old modems at home (33600 ) and think that they can be used. > > >> > > >> Thank you in advance. > > >> > > >> > > >> -- > > >> To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> > > >> In virtually all cases the subscriber line to your home is terminated at > > > > > > the phone company in a piece of dedicated equipment (e.g. a switch). As > > > such the lines can't be connected as a LAN unless the phone company does > > > it. > > > Larry > > > > OK,... > > > > but what about the people inside the building ? > > as all the lines are connected to the same switch. > > It's the telco's network, not yours. You'd still have to make sure your not > going to end up interfering with their equipment. Why not just get some > ethernet cable and network cards? You can wire an apartment full of > roommates for about US$60 and some strategic tucking of wire along baseboards > or ceiling hooks, and that's if you have to buy everybody an ethernet card > and some ceiling hooks... In the same vein, you can also utilize wifi and powerline ethernet. I use wifi and it can go through some material(wood, plasterboard) and covers open spaces. You can also set up various parabolic antennas to connect distant points. Powerline ethernet works by sending ethernet over the mains in your structure. Not sure of how relaible it is, as I've never used it. HTH -K -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Delay when typing in konsole
On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 12:37:25PM -0500, Mumia W.. wrote: > On 04/26/2008 11:46 AM, Wesley Mesquita wrote: >> So, is there any of these "light weith" terminals that support >> mult-tab? I just use konsole because this. >> > > I use rxvt and the "screen" utility. Although "screen" doesn't have the > multi-tab feature, it creates multiple virtual screens within a single > rxvt session. I highly recommend screen. > One of the additional benefits of screen: if you close/kill an xterm, the application is terminated if you close/kill an xterm with screen running, nothing is lost (you just reattach the screen session and all is well!) -K -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to refresh Debian to install software set
On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 08:26:51AM +0200, Sven Joachim wrote: > On 2008-04-25 04:28 +0200, Kevin Mark wrote: > > > and there is a tool to verify that there are not missing files from your > > installed DEB files (i think its 'debverify'?? if anyone know, do tell) > > It's called `debsums', actually. > > > |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| > > Your Mail-Followup-To header indicates that you want to be CC'ed. Is > that true? [Sending this to you, but with M-F-T to the list.] > > Sven Hi Sven, I use mutt with 'L' for list reply. Is that the way to fix the m-f-t? If not, what suggestion? -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to refresh Debian to install software set
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 07:26:13AM -0500, Dennis G. Wicks wrote: > Greetings; > > I have four Debian systems and a couple of them seem to have gotten in > the state that they don't have a full set of packages for some reason. > > Is there any way to do a refresh or reinstall of the system to make sure > everything is there? Short of an install from the beginning that is!! I > can figure that one out with no help. ;-) > > Many TIA! > Dennis there is the 'reinstall' option for aptitude. and there is a tool to verify that there are not missing files from your installed DEB files (i think its 'debverify'?? if anyone know, do tell) -K -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What is the apt cache good for?
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 05:34:59PM +, Hendrik Boom wrote: > I can get some space back by doing apt-get autoclean. > > I can get more back by apt-get clean. > > This deletes lots and lots of files from my system. Judging from du's > output, /var/cache/apt/ takes a bit more than a third of my disk space. > > Now I've been keeping these files around, just in case. > > But do I actually need any of these files? Or are they only needed while > I'm actually busy installing stuff? After those packages have been > installed, are the corresponding files in the cache good for anything at > all? Perhaps for deleting the packages later? When you apt-get or aptitude something, it does this: -download DEB file to /var/cache/apt/archive -runs dpkg on the DEB file in /var/cache/apt/archive if you need to reinstall a package, /var/cache/apt/archive is searched first, to avoid re-downloading the file. All the files needed for removing/purging/etc. the package are placed in /var/lib/dpkg/info. So the DEB is not used. hope that explains, k -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: command line browser questions: - javascript - lynx history
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 01:03:19PM +0200, NN_il_Confusionario wrote: > On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 07:31:41PM +1000, Daniel Dalton wrote: > > On Thu, 17 Apr 2008, NN_il_Confusionario wrote: > > >I have just tried to visit youtube with my newly > > >compiled elinks, but I have to admit that I am not able to navigate > > >youtube (yes, I am too stupid to be able to use modern websites and GUIs) > > Damn, I'll try later, but that's quite sad... > > Hopefully I can get access to more websites with it though. > > How about hotmail.com > > Can you access that? Or does it give you javascript errors? > > with 'o' key in links (Option manager) I have activated two keys for > ECMAScript > > Enable > Script error reporting > > I have no javascript errors; for example I am now in > http://m.it.youtube.com/details?v=jcvfaMRf2P0&warned=1&v2=1 > (but I do not know if javascript was needed to reach tha page). > > The problem for me with youtube is that *I* am not able to navigate > youtube. Up to now I had to use youtube only one time, about 9 months > ago, and it took me at lest 5 minutes with firefox to find what to do in > the page to find the link to download the file. I have no understanding > of the "logic" behind any kind of "modern" interfaces. Not that this solves your problem but are you aware that there are scripts in Debian that you can use to download video files from YouTube and other sites. -K -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Packages temporarily disappearing from Testing/Lenny
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 08:20:00PM +0200, David wrote: > Hi again list, and thanks for the replies. > > My PC survived the upgrade to Unstable and actually has fewer problems > than I did with Testing (besides a few xorg.conf and nvidia-xconfig > issues, and 2 gtk libraries being held back due to dependancy > problems). > > A follow-up for those packages I mentioned: > > xmms - Removed because it is old and unmaintained, has dependancy > problems. I had problems with audacious/testing, but > audacious/unstable works great and looks just like XMMS (with the > Refugee skin). Also it seems to have remote control functionality > (dbus) which I need at work for it to be a replacement for XMMS. Debian from time to time needs to drop things like libraries to keep it maintainable. Having 7 different versions of a particular language|library is untenable (python 1.0, 2.0, ...). So in this case XMMS used gtk 1 which is being phased-out and gtk 2 will be used thus forward. IIRC some folks where considering upgrading XMMS to use gtk 2. This would be a way to get XMMS back into Debian. > > nvidia-glx (nvidia-graphics-drivers) - An old version was sitting in > Testing for months. It was never updated in unstable because the > updated versions have a lot of bug reports, and also because they want > kernel module packages which were never uploaded (presumably because > users can make them with modula-assistant). Eventually, a newer > package linux-2.6 (which had dependancy issues with the old > nvidia-graphics-drivers) moved to Testing, which kicked > nvidia-graphics-drivers out of Testing. > > comix - The version in Testing had security problems, so it was > removed automatically (however, the insecure version stayed in > Unstable). Almost a month later a fixed version was uploaded to stable > and 10 days later it moved to Testing. > > Overall, I get the impression that Testing is a very good staging area > for the next Stable, but it can be a 2nd-class citizen (compared to > Stable and Unstable) for end-users, with packages getting very out of > date or even disappearing from time to time. I need to keep this in > mind for the future. > > David. > In general, bug-fixes are sent to unstable. After some testing they are sent to testing. If a problem occurs, the testing package is removed and at some point another unstable package will replace it. When all the pacakges in testing are capable of working together and have no release critical bugs, the whole becomes stable. The point is that package need lots of testing which takes a lot of time (18 months). This means that stable (and testing which will become stable) are at least 18 months old. And unstable which gets the updates will be very new all the time. if you want to see this in a graph, check out my web site below and view the diagram. -K -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: postgresql 7.4 and 8.1 on the same system
On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 05:22:27PM +0200, Paul Csanyi wrote: > Hello! > > I have installed on Debian Etch both postgresql 7.4 and 8.1. > > When I log in to the postgresql database with su postgres, > how can I know, which one is used? > > Say, I want to log in to the postgresql 7.4, then which > command to use? > > Any advices will be appreciated! > > -- > Regards, Paul Csanyi > http://www.freewebs.com/csanyi-pal/index.htm I would imagine the unversioned binary would be linked to a versioned one. ln -s postgresl7.3 postgres and/or may be setup using the Debian alternatives system upon installation. hope that explains. -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: what scripting language to learn?
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 06:45:16PM +, Glenn Becker wrote: > >> I keep coming up against a wall "Solid scripting experience required" >> in my job search (for Linux sys admin). IYHO, what would be the one >> scripting language to learn? > > I would learn straight shell (sh) ... it's clunkier than bash shell but > it's everywhere. > > Of course to be useful you'd have to know things like sed and some awk > and so on: standard unix utils. millions of lines of debian infrastructure are composed in shell scripts. Beyond that there is: perl, python, ruby -k -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Regarding package Installation
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 06:50:29PM +0500, Zainab Rehman wrote: > While running commands(red coloured font) to install a source package i am > having problems (bolded text) > > > debianabc:/home/fast# cd debian > debianabc:/home/fast/debian# apt-get source bnfc > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree... Done > E: You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list > debianabc:/home/fast/debian# apt-get build-dep bnfc > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree... Done > E: You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list > debianabc:/home/fast/debian# cd bnfc2.2 > bash: cd: bnfc2.2: No such file or directory > debianabc:/home/fast/debian# cd bnfc-2.2 > debianabc:/home/fast/debian/bnfc-2.2# debuild -us -uc > bash: debuild: command not found > debianabc:/home/fast/debian/bnfc-2.2# > > > P.S: i am not able to connect to internet from terminal at which debian is > installed. > The error message is about your /etc/apt/sources.list. It is missing a line that starts with deb-src. -K -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 08:54:20AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 04/11/08 08:18, David Fox wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 11:23 AM, Andrew Sackville-West > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> Hey! I'm almost poor, ignorant of many things, and often boorish, but > >> I'll *never* drink cheap beer, you insensitive clod! > > > > You know, thunderbird isn't just a web browser. :) > > Hah!! > > (Is that just an Americanism?) Thunderbird is a brand of cheap alcohol mostly drunk by winos --bums. It is noted for the logo on the bottle which is a bird. -K -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I would like to give my congradulation
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 11:21:04PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Wed, Apr 02, 2008 at 09:42:26PM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: > > > > > I see it under unstable also: > > > > > > > > Package: xmms (1:1.2.10+20070601-1 and others) [debports] > > > > > > > > What's 'debports'? > > > > > > That's what I was going to ask *you*! Here is my apt-cache policy: > > > > > > ,[ apt-cache policy xmms ] > > > | xmms: > > > | Installed: (none) > > > | Candidate: 1:1.2.10+20061101-1etch1 > > > | Version table: > > > | 1:1.2.10+20061101-1etch1 0 > > > | 500 http://ftp.at.debian.org etch/main Packages > > > ` > > > > > > How is yours? > > > > :-) > > > > Look at http://ftp-master.debian.org/testing/update_excuses.html > > > > Search for xmms -- there are a few pointers to bug reports. > > > > Also see what: > > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?which=pkg&data=xmms&sev-inc=critical&sev-inc=grave&sev-inc=serious > > > > has to say. > > > > Also there is a link which answers the question, "why is this package > > not in testing yet" which unfortunately I don't have off the cuff[1], > > but if you are running testing then you should at least know about them. > > > > [1] Hopefully google will bring up the answer. > > Chris, I think you were misreading my reply. I know very well why xmms > is not in testing: because it was removed from the distro! Only stable > is carrying it now. IIRC Debian has phased out gtk 1 and with it XMMS. -k -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pecl package
On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 10:12:46PM +1000, hce wrote: > On 4/9/08, Kevin Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 07:52:31PM +1000, hce wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > I've installed php5 on my debian box. I've also tried to install pecl > > > package, but could not find it: > > > > > > ~$ sudo apt-get install pecl > > > Reading package lists... Done > > > Building dependency tree... Done > > > E: Couldn't find package pecl > > > ~$ sudo apt-get install pecl-dev > > > Reading package lists... Done > > > Building dependency tree... Done > > > E: Couldn't find package pecl-dev > > > > > > How can I find pecl package? > > > > > > Thank you. > > > > > > the package 'dh-make-php' says that it: > > creates Debian source packages for PHP PEAR and PECL extensions > > > > Is that what you mean? [ this is just a basic package search ] > > I really don't know, I was installing memcached for lighttpd, it was > suggested by others that the "pecl install memcached" was required. > Have no idea why installing lighttpd is so difficult. > > Thanks. > > Jim Hmm. It seems many languages' have been adding a private package installation. Debian (and I expect others) package their own language modules (for perl, ruby, php, etc.) and there may be a way to install lightttpd without using this alternate method. These methods do not register their packages with Debian so are unknown to dpkg. Debian packages do not use these alternate methods to satisfy their dependencies. I would expect the Debian developer to have packaged all the required reverse dependencies, so if you have a problem installing it, I'd suggest a bug report in the BTS. If its a popular add-on, then the maintainer may want to package it. But the alternate methods make it harder to Debian to keep things easy. -K -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pecl package
On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 07:52:31PM +1000, hce wrote: > Hi, > > I've installed php5 on my debian box. I've also tried to install pecl > package, but could not find it: > > ~$ sudo apt-get install pecl > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree... Done > E: Couldn't find package pecl > ~$ sudo apt-get install pecl-dev > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree... Done > E: Couldn't find package pecl-dev > > How can I find pecl package? > > Thank you. the package 'dh-make-php' says that it: creates Debian source packages for PHP PEAR and PECL extensions Is that what you mean? [ this is just a basic package search ] -k -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.18-5-486_2.6.18.dfsg.1-13etc h6_i386.deb (--unpack):
On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 12:11:06AM +0200, Mathieu Malaterre wrote: > Hi there, > > Has anyone seen this issue before (*). I am running a linux debian > stable (etch). > > Thanks > left on device > dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) > Running postrm hook script /sbin/update-grub. > Your /etc/kernel-img.conf needs to be updated. Read grub's NEWS.Debian[1] > file and follow its instructions. > > 1. /usr/share/doc/grub/NEWS.Debian.gz > > > You shouldn't call /sbin/update-grub. Please call /usr/sbin/update-grub > instead! Now that other folks pointed out the full root. Change this also! like it says: read /usr/share/doc/grub/NEWS.Debian.gz edit /etc/kernel-img.conf HTH, K -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: exim4 changed
On Mon, Apr 07, 2008 at 04:19:36AM -0500, Jude DaShiell wrote: > Does anyone know what format change was done to > /etc/exim4/exim4.conf.localmacros? In order to use verizon.net we needed > something like: 'AUTH_CLIENT_ALLOW_NOTLS_PASSWORD = true' in the file in > the past. Now the only way that gets past update-exim4.conf is by > stripping the apostrophes and that generates a /var/lib/exim4/paniclog > when /etc/init.d/exim4 restart gets run. Are you suggesting that you had the apostrophes in the file? That is not that case. this is the contents of mine: AUTH_CLIENT_ALLOW_NOTLS_PASSWORD=true But to better diagnose the issue, I guess giving the output of /var/lib/exim4/paniclog would help. Cheers -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PDL::IO::Dicom is not packaged in pdl package how to add it in? dh-make-perl not working??
On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 12:08:28PM -0400, Mitchell Laks wrote: > Hi, > > I am working with medical images with PDL and perl. > I notice that the list of modules in > dpkg -L pdl Hi M, I think you best bet is to contact the debian-med subproject. I would expect them to be happy to package (ITP) it. Consult google for their webpage and mailing list. Or alternatively there is the debian-perl group, who group maintains most of the perl packages. -K -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: backup script changes permissions
On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 07:28:51AM -0400, Haines Brown wrote: > I'be brought up my backup script for discussion before, and folks where > helpful in solving a problem, but the solution created another. Now all > files backed up have their ownerships changed to me, brownh:brownh. > > Here's the old script, which had the problem that output was going to a > mail message that quickly exceeded system limits, and then caused the > backup process to terminate: > > find / -print | egrep -v "^/media|^/proc|^/sys|^/mnt" | cpio -pdmuv > /media/mirror/"$dirName" > 2>&1 | cat -vt > > Here's the new script which only sends an error message: > > find / -print | egrep -v "^/media|^/proc|^/sys" | cpio -pdmuv > /media/mirror/"$dirName" 2>&1 | cat -vT >/home/brownh/.backup.log > > However, it seems to convert ownership of all files backed up to > brownh:brownh. > > -- I did: cpio --help and the only thing that stuck out was this option: --no-preserve-ownerDo not change the ownership of the files so maybe add this and use: cpio -pdmuv --no-preserve-owner hth, K -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: business card install - kernel
On Sat, Apr 05, 2008 at 04:31:28AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > If I'm using the business card CD install, I get to a page that says, > "Install the base system" and lists about 30 different kernels. I > can't find any web page or documentation that explains the difference > between each one. > > I have found pages like this: > http://packages.debian.org/etch/linux-image-2.6.18-5-686 > > Which tells me this package contains (gasp) a 2.6.18 linux kernel > image. Thanks, but see, that part is obvious from the name. What > isn't obvious is why, on the "Install the base system" screen, there's > an option for: > > linux-image-686 > linux-image-2.6-686 > linux-image-2.6.18-6-686 > kernel-image-2.6-686 > > And I don't understand why someone would pick one of those over the > others. > > Thanks. These are various metapackages that track the lastest version. linux-images-686 will install the latest i686 kernel linux-image-2.6-686 will install the latest 2.6-based i686 kernel This is a regular package: linux-image-2.6.18-6-686 will install kernel 2.6.18 (the 6th debian revision). These are for Etch, the current version of Debian. Lenny hopefully will be ready for release in Sept or so. -K -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Question about sendmail
On Fri, Apr 04, 2008 at 02:53:13AM -0700, Pete Kay wrote: > > > Dear all, > > I am looking for a solution to perform specific tasks based on email > received. > So, when emails of specific Send-to address arrives to my mail server, I would > like to kick off certain scripts. Can anyone tell me how to do that? > > Thanks alot in advance for all your suggestion. > > Regards, > Pete procmail comes to mind. It can redirect mail, forward mail, run scripts, and feed the cat! -K -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sony VAIO support, anyone have experience?
On Wed, Apr 02, 2008 at 03:32:49PM +0100, Noah Slater wrote: > Hello, > > I am wanting to buy a new laptop primarily to move away from PowerPC so that > my > machine is better supported by a default Debian installation. At present, Debian supports PowerPc. Have you check the BTS for possible issue? What have you had issues with? If everyone who had a PPC did not participate in its upkeep, there will be none. So if you want it supported, do give Debian a change to help. Just a thought. -K -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian package installation
On Wed, Apr 02, 2008 at 11:09:24PM +1100, David Schulberg wrote: > Hi, > > > > I have a Debian package which starts a service set up by having > ‘dh_installinit’ in my rules file. > > I want the service to start every time my computer boots up. > > Does it have to fire up also straight after I install the package? > > > > Regards, > > David Schulberg Hi David, I think you might want to ask your question on the 'debian-mentors' list as its a list for beginning people seeking packaging advice. Also, there is the 'debian-devel' list, but its for people asking question about debian developement which includes packaging. although someone here may be able to help you as well. -K -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___|
Re: Wireless2
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 10:18:51AM -0400, Jonathan Smith wrote: > Hello, > > I assume if I get the following messages: > lono wireless extensions. > > eth1 no wireless extensions. > > eth0 no wireless extensions. > > sit0 no wireless extensions. > > I do not have wireless extentions. Where can I obtain these? > > Thanks, Could you give us some more info, like: what wireless card you have? What CPU? etc. -K -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Wireless]
Hi Johnathan, I am forwarding your message to the debian-user list which is more appropriate for a user question. The -devel list is for issue related to the development of the Debian distribution. Cheers, Kev - Forwarded message from Jonathan Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 08:45:00 -0400 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-FOLDER: .floss.debian_devel/ X-policyd-weight: DYN_NJABL=ERR NOT_IN_SBL_XBL_SPAMHAUS=-1.5 NOT_IN_BL_NJABL=-1.5 CL_IP_EQ_HELO_IP=-2 (check from: .gmail. - helo: .wr-out-0506.google. - helo-domain: .google.) FROM/MX_MATCHES_HELO(DOMAIN)=-2 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, rate: -7 X-procmail: spamc Hello How do I find wireless conncections on Debian? I have installed Debian 4.0. Thanks -- Jonathan Wynn Smith Doctoral Student in Howard University Program in Atmospheric Science Washington, DC 20059 336-601-4563 (cell) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (e-mail) - End forwarded message - -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Reg Blind
On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 09:40:06AM +0200, Joey Schulze wrote: > Kevin Mark wrote: > > Hi Suzy, > > I am forwarding your request to the Debian-user mailing list, as that > > would be a better place to ask. The Debian-project list is for questions > > about the Debian project and not for help with using Debian. > > A link to [EMAIL PROTECTED] could also be a good > idea, since there are the guys with more competence wrt. accessibility > features and problems. > > Regards, > > Joey Yes, that would also be good. I know that there are at least 2 similarly sighted folks on d-u, which is why I thought first of it. The more 'eyes' on bugs, makes them solved quicker, to paraphrase. -K -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Reg Blind
Hi Suzy, I am forwarding your request to the Debian-user mailing list, as that would be a better place to ask. The Debian-project list is for questions about the Debian project and not for help with using Debian. Cheers, Kev On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 09:11:13PM +, Suzy Hesketh wrote: > Hi > > I am registered blind but I do have some limited sight. > > I have never used Debian but I have looked at Dream. > > My IRC administrator uses Debian and so does my friend who runs the UK server > and he has asked me to be an Operator on the server with him, so the server is > covered while he is not available. > > So I have decided to have a go at learning Debian. Would you please tell me > if > there is a live version of the programme that I can use so I can get the feel > of it before installing the full package? > > Also is there any way for me to change the screen setting on Debian, so I can > make it easier for me to see? > > Thank you very much for your help with this. I look forward very much to > hearing from you soon. > > Suzy -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing GTK+
On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 12:05:50PM -0500, John Salmon wrote: > How does one go about installing GTK+ into Debian Etch using Aptitude? > - % apt-cache search libgtk|grep -vi perl|grep -vi ruby|grep -vi java|grep -vi opengl|grep -vi html|grep -vi ocaml|sort|more - this should show you some packages for it. -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian sdcc + pic16f877a help
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 12:15:47PM +0800, jeffry s wrote: > is there anyone here who work on pic16f877a. i am using debian sid. > and doing c programming for pic16f877a. but i am new and don't have any idea > how > to start. anyone can help me or point me a good sdcc+pic tutorial out there. > > it seems not so many i can found by asking google :( I know there are some pic software in Debian. Never used it. Just an OT comment: have you read/heard about the Arduino? It has FLOSS friendly tools that are cross-platform. HTH -K -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What's heppening to Debian? Mono?
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 02:08:39PM -0400, machiner wrote: > All apologies, I posted this earlier to the wrong list. > > AndWTF is this: $ aptitude search mono > > .. > > p libmono-microsoft-build2.0-cil - Mono Microsoft.Build libraries > > p libmono-microsoft7.0-cil- Mono Microsoft libraries > > p libmono-microsoft8.0-cil- Mono Microsoft libraries > > > Doesn't anybody else think it's bad-medicine to be including > potentially dangerous code in the default installation? I want to > hear from devs that mono is free from potential liability. Do you > know for sure? I am sure that there are others that are getting that > queasy feeling in their stomachs about including mono in the default > install. You do know that Mono is not a Microsoft Product and its produced by FLOSS programmer. So its free software. I like free software. Its impementing an open standard. I like open standards. At least for now there is no patent claims, but I expect the SFLC, the PFLC and others to be on the look-out, So unless Gnome hacker are double-agents, there should be no issues. > > It has been pointed out to me that Gnome now "needs" Tomboy. However, > Tomboy has its own dependencies -- mono. Is Gnome still a good idea? > Why not Xfce4? I wouldn't consider that a conspiricy, I like tomboy, myself. Debian also offers you other choices. > > And for a note-keeping application what's wrong with Notecase? Well, you can certainly suggest it, if its not in Debian. Consider an ITP (intent to package) request if you can program or an RFP(request for package) otherwise. -K -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: continuity of a topic in debian-user
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 10:21:22AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 03/25/08 06:10, Cybe R. Wizard wrote: > > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > > [Presidential choice] > > > >> Gus Hall forever > > > > Isn't he just a little bit cold? Like, since 2000? > > Death is only the beginning. Besides, there's always Angela Davis... > Should I assume these replys are limited to non-viable candidates? -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: exim/postfix comparisons
On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 12:13:19PM +0100, Martin Marcher wrote: > > PS: if there's a compelling reason to go in the sendmail direction (or > any other mta) i'm willing to do that, but I refuse qmail because of > licensing issues Are you aware that qmail is now 'public domain' as of last year? -K -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Comments on testing in production
On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 10:36:05AM +0100, Rico Secada wrote: > Hi. > > I am setting up a couple of Debian Etch boxes for production and I am > using DRBD 7 in a cluster setup. > > Now DRBD 8 some more advanced features which will improve the system, > so I am stuck with a choice of how to deploy DRBD 8 on the system. > > I don't like to use backports of any kind because they don't receive > security updates. > > Any feedback and experiences in running testing in production would be > greatly appreciated. > > Thanks in advance. > > Best regards. > > Rico. Backports.org is run by Debian developes and I believe that most of the pacakges are done by Debian developers. (contact them for full details). I also recall that they MAY get security update. http://www.backports.org/dokuwiki/doku.php Debian now has testing security update. http://secure-testing-master.debian.net/ Hope that explains, -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sort files by name and maintain sort order when copying to mp3 player
On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 04:06:15AM -0500, Russell L. Harris wrote: > After two hours of searching with Google and Yahoo, I have not found a > good approach to the problem of maintaining proper file order when > copying mp3 files from an ext3 directory to a flash-based mp3 player. > > Contrary to the instruction manual, the player (a Creative MUVO) plays > files in the order in which they are written to flash memory, so if I > have an audio book with a hundred chapters on an ext3 drive and then > copy the book to the mp3 player, the chapters do not necessarily play > in proper sequence. > > The player is inexpensive, and does not support playlists. > > In searching, I discovered that others also have this problem, but > there appears to be no standard Linux utility to solve the problem. > > But perhaps someone has written such a utility written in Perl? > > In the Debian archives is a utility named "fatsort" which addresses > this problem, but it necessitates mounting a FAT partition. > > RLH Here is an idea: create a temp. dir: mkdir music_copy copy the files you want to listen to into the temp. dir: cp my_music_file1 my_music_file2 ... music_copy alter the time stamp of these files to suite FAT: (I think 'touch' would do but not sure what FAT uses) then copy the file to your music player The key is to find what value FAT uses: mtime? ctime? Hope this helps. -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Question about Desktop Environments
On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 07:34:04PM -0500, Jonathan Jacobs wrote: > GNOME and KDE are the ones that I have. But, is there one out there > that looks like XP. I am going to install Debian on my mothers computer > and she is running...slowly...XP. Every other comment out of my mom, > about the computer, is that it is running slowly. I have already removed > any spyware and whatnot and I have cleaned the reg. It is about time > that I upgraded her pc to Debian. Just need a desktop environment that > looks like XP..any suggestions? > Hi Jonathan, I would suggest that you get many different live-cd distros with different look and feel: ubuntu kubuntu pclinuxos etc. And then tell her to try these differnt ones and see which seems easist to her. Gnu/Linux does not have somethat that would fool her to think its XP, so you can´t pull the switch-o-roo without her noticing. Tell her it will be faster, virus free, something new to try and something that can you can help her customize to her liking. Think: wall paper, font size, themes,... Make it a game to have fun with... The worst that can happen is that she goes back to her XP and seems how slow it is ;-) -K -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___|
Re: Install Debian into Fabiatech embedded system
On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 04:04:23PM +0100, Mirco Piccin wrote: > Hi all. > Does anyone never install Debian into embedded system like this one? > > http://www.fabiatech.com/fabia/products/index.php?main_sn=3&sub_sn=10&p_sn=59&title=FB2612 > > It seems to be standard enought, but any suggests will be appreciated! > Reagrds > M Have you seen http://www.emdebian.org/ ? -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Thanks for the great system / installation successfull report
On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 02:34:12PM +0100, Ivan Glushkov wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > > - Original Message > Subject: Re: Thanks for the great system / installation successfull report > Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 14:00:46 +0100 > From: Embrik Kaslegard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Ivan Glushkov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Ivan Glushkov wrote: > > Luis Motta Campos wrote: > > > >> Thibaut Paumard wrote: > > > >>> Le 13 mars 08 à 11:31, Luis Motta Campos a écrit : > >>> > I would like to report a big success here. I recently got a HP 6710b > laptop and (as usual) didn't agreed with the Windows License terms and > conditions (so I can send it back and get the license money). > > >>> Are you being serious about getting your money back? Are you successful > >>> in it in the UK? > >>> > >> I don't know about the UK. I sent them back my licenses in the > >> Netherlands, where I live now. I told them in a very formal letter that > >> I didn't agreed about the terms and conditions, and, as I never used the > >> licenses (it was a new computer) I got my money back. > > > >> I recommend everybody to at least try. :) It's not possible that the > >> only way to buy computers is swallowing licenses we will not use. > > > > > > Hey, that's a good news! > > > > did anybody in Germany succeeded to do that? I am planning to buy a new > > laptop, and this information is vital for me.. > > > > Cheers, > > Ivan > > > > Wow. This is pioneering :-) How did you do this? Why don't you just give > us the copy of your letter? I guess you have found a way in using the > complicated lisence ageement in our favour. I will send some letters as > well. I've got 125 lisences which I don't want to use :-) > > Br > Embrik > Hemsedal > > I guess that was incidentally sent personally to me. > > Cheers, > Ivan > > P.S.: Actually it is not pioneering at all. Google it. I read something > similar in slashdot long time ago, but that was in Australia. That's the > first case I hear about in EU. There was a fellow in New York by the name of Adam Kosmin who set up a website 'windowsrefund.net' in 1992, now called 'windowsrefund.info' documenting some of these things. cheers, Kev -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___|
Re: Debian Repository Question
On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 05:12:16PM +0100, gooldi wrote: > This is my first time asking stuff on a mailinglist and I am amazed at > the speed of the replies :) thanks! > Hi, Free software users usually consider themselves are part of a community (of volunteers). Mailing lists are places for us to interact, ask for advice, and other things depending upon the list. This list is 'high volume' which in this case means that it has 300 posts/day with many thousand subscribers in all parts of the globe in all time zones. So if you ask something, especially if its interesting or novel, will get SOME response. If you appreciate our help, please consider a donation to our favorite cause ;-) via paypal or stopping by a booth at a trade show. Or just helping someone in return. Cheers, K -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Laptop Wireless
On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 04:41:45PM +, Ed wrote: > Hi, > > I have a HP ZT1000 laptop with an internal wireless card. I tried to > install Fedora 8 on it, and although the install went smoothly, it > refused to recognize the internal wireless card. Eventually I gave up and > wiped Fedora off and installed Debian 4or1. Again the install was event- > less but Debian automatically recognized and set up the internal wireless > card on the laptop. I 'think' I would prefer to have Fedora on the laptop > only because I am more familiar with Fedora. Would anyone have any idea > what specifically in Debian allows it to recognize and work with my > internal wireless card and whether I could somehow port that part of the > install over to Fedora if I were to reinstall Fedora. If there is a > better forum for me to ask this question, please advise. Lastly, my > brief experience with debian has been very positive, my only reason to > prefer Fedora is that I have used it on my desktops for years and am more > familiar with it. Incidentally, another nice thing about Debian is the > stock ticker applet worked out of the box, where I have not been able to > get the stock ticker applet to work on my fedora 6 desktop. > > Any suggestion or redirection would be appreciated. > > Ed Wireless cards depend on the kernel, kernel modules, and firmware. So, you may just have not had the correct kernel and kernel modules loaded. To get help, someone would need to know what kernel you used, what kernel modules were loaded and the output of lspci, I guess. -K -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: graphical file browser from command line
On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 9:44 PM, Rick Pasotto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 05:19:49PM -0400, Kevin Mark wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 02:45:11PM -0400, Rick Pasotto wrote: > > > I spend most of my time on the command line and use 'less' when I want > > > to just view a file. However, there are some files that have excessively > > > long lines and I'd like to be able to left/right scroll rather than have > > > the lines wrapped. What program could I call from the command line that > > > would open such a viewer on a given file? (My desktop is gnome but kde > > > is installed.) > > > > > In less, if you press 'v', it will open the file in VI, and then you can > > view the file there. > > Except that vi(m) will not edit STDIN. That's why I was looking for a > file *viewer*. > Your OP did not say that, so I guess my hint won't work as it expects a regular file. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: graphical file browser from command line
On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 02:45:11PM -0400, Rick Pasotto wrote: > I spend most of my time on the command line and use 'less' when I want > to just view a file. However, there are some files that have excessively > long lines and I'd like to be able to left/right scroll rather than have > the lines wrapped. What program could I call from the command line that > would open such a viewer on a given file? (My desktop is gnome but kde > is installed.) > In less, if you press 'v', it will open the file in VI, and then you can view the file there. -K -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: comments about Debian based Xandros
On Sun, Mar 09, 2008 at 11:47:44PM +0100, Simon Jolle sjolle wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi Debian Users > > Anybody have experience with Xandros products? According Wikipedia its > based on Debian. > > Are all Debian packages available? Is there Debian compatibility (or > they implement their own things)? If no, what are the differences? How > is the relationship between Debian and Xandros? > > Can I call Xandros, the Debian with underpinning contract (managers wish > to hear such things like that)? > > cheers > Simon > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFH1GkPEMN/lNE/wrwRArMmAJsGQGodQiqtvjg7fXqN0snpzF7OnQCfT1Ac > bVEYqGOUlBCtQJTW2ArB6eY= > =SGVe > -END PGP SIGNATURE- There are a lot of Debian-based distro. They use the debian packaging format (deb) and use the debian package manager (dpkg, apt-get, aptitude). Beyond that, there are lots of differences. Ubuntu tried to stay somewhat close to Debian by baseing its work upon Debian's unstable packages every 6 months. Not sure what Xandros does. All have different versions of KDE, Gnome, LibC, gcc, etc. So it is not ever officially recommended to install a package from one to the other. If you buy Xandros, you should get support from them, only. Debian has 16,000+ packages. Most of the derivitaves do not use all them. So, if you need a package that is not in Xandros, then you can usually get the debian source package and compile it to create a side-graded xandros deb (untested). There are private contractors who support Debian, check the web site for a list of them. There are also companies like HP and Dell who may have Debian support, HTH, K -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Naming Schemes
On Thu, Mar 06, 2008 at 02:26:33PM +1100, Owen Townend wrote: > > > On 3/6/08, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > On 03/05/08 20:29, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 05, 2008 at 04:24:28PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > [snip] > > >> Disgusting Scots food. > >> > >> $ uname -n > >> haggis > >> > > > > my 7 year old named the G3 iMac reborn into a sid machine: Crusher > > > > I just don't understand 7 year old girls, and it doesn't get any > > better as they grow up, but kudos to her for a great name... > > > As is That Which Makes Big Cars Into Small Piles? Or Wil Weaton's > alter ego? > > My daughter would have named it after a My Little Pony, or a Fairy. > > > - -- > Ron Johnson, Jr. > Jefferson LA USA > > "The kniiife..., the kniiife... The life of the wife is ended > by the knife." > Stewie Griffin & Eliza Pinchley > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) > > > iD8DBQFHz2FGS9HxQb37XmcRApD1AKDG9dtNIHqUi5KY3pwnjbKUlKFTNACdHdjf > Qw5FBAwzDclLNXaBYn+0nB4= > =XN4s > > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > hey, > heh, my little pony? If/when I have kids I would expect they'd be more > likely > to name them after apocalypse ponies than the originals. > http://youtube.com/watch?v=UGGLENEEVYc > > That being said, one satelite office of my last company had all their > servers > named after simpsons characters while ours were all from the Adams family. Debian Trivia: At the last Debconf in the UK(2007), the local network was named after the simpsons. -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Control-C kills interactive bash
On Thu, Mar 06, 2008 at 04:58:21PM +1300, Lesley Walker wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > > On 03/05/08 17:39, Lesley Walker wrote: > > > After upgrading from Sarge to Etch, I have this problem, Ctrl-C kills > the current interactive Bash shell. > ... > I feel as though I must be overlooking something completely obvious, > can > anyone suggest what? > > > > Console or an X window? > > > > It happens on both. > > Never mind... I think I found it. We have this line in /etc/profile: > trap "exit" 2 3 23 > If I comment it out the problem goes away. Time for me go and RTFM on traps. > > That is odd. IIRC control-d was set to 'exit'. so in this case various signals are set to do the same thing. Why is beyond me. -K -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Basic bash question.
On Mon, Mar 03, 2008 at 07:33:20PM -0800, Luis Maceira wrote: > How can I see all the messages generated by > a bash command (configure make make install, > for example) to standard output(computer screen), > and at the same time make sure that all is > written to a text file for later analysis. > It is a redirection but I don´t know how to make > both things happen at the same time. > Is that possible?With all the bash commands? > > Without GUI(X),all command line environment. > > > Thank you,in advance. > In bsdutils, there is the command 'script'. so, 'man script' should help. -K -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___|
Re: [OT] ATX-PSU and amperage on connectors...
On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 02:21:07AM +0100, Michelle Konzack wrote: > Hello Douglas, > > Am 2008-02-27 20:52:19, schrieb Douglas A. Tutty: > > Here are the wire sizes according to my copy of the 2002 Canadian > > Electrical cord (still in force), table 12 "Allowable Ampacity of > > Flexible Cord and Equipment Wire (Based on Ambient Temperature of 30C" > > Note that cables of 4 or more wires (e.g. if you shrink-wrap 4 drive > > wires together) would be 80%. > > > > AWG Amp > > === > > 26 1 > > 24 2 > > 22 3 > > 20 4 > > 18 6 > > 16 8 > > 14 17 > > This AWG thing is nice, since I don not know I in Europe... > I am counting in mm² Hi, I googled and found this[0]: gauge (ga) [3] a traditional unit measuring the diameter (or the cross-sectional area) of a wire. Various wire gauge scales have been used in the U.S. and Britain. In traditional scales, larger gauge numbers represent thinner wires. (For very thick wires, repeated zeros are used instead of negative numbers, so gauges 00, 000, and represent -1, -2, and -3, respectively.) In the American Wire Gauge (AWG) scale, gauge represents a wire having a diameter of 0.46 inch and 36 gauge represents a diameter of 0.005 inch (5 mils). Diameters for the other gauges are obtained by geometric interpolation, meaning that the ratio between successive diameters is a constant, except for necessary roundoff. Thus n gauge wire has a diameter of .005·92((36-n)/39) inch. The metric wire gauge number is equal to 10 times the diameter of the wire, in millimeters; thus a metric 8 gauge wire has diameter 0.8 millimeters. A table of wire gauge equivalents is provided. The above formula did not paste correctly: (36-n) 39 wire gauge(n)=0.005*92^ Inches And this references this[1]: Gauge |Washburn|British |Birmingham|American Number| & Moen |Imperial|or|(A.W.G) ||Standard|Stubs |or ||(S.W.G) | |Brown & ||| |Sharpe 14| .0800" |.080" |.083" |.0640" 15| .0720" |.072" |.072" |.0570" 16| .0625" |.064" |.065" |.0508" 17| .0540" |.056" |.058" |.0452" 18| .0475" |.048" |.049" |.0403" 19| .0410" |.040" |.042" |.0358" 20| .0348" |.036" |.035" |.0319" 21| .0317" |.032" |.032" |.0284" 22| .0286" |.028" |.028" |.0253" 23| .0258" |.024" |.025" |.0225" 24| .0230" |.022" |.022" |.0201" 25| .0204" |.020" |.020" |.0179" HTH, Kev [0] http://www.unc.edu/~rowlett/units/dictG.html [1] http://www.unc.edu/~rowlett/units/scales/wiregauge.html -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___|
Re: [OT] Laptop with Linux preinstalled
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 01:09:34PM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > Hi, > > I thought it would never happen. Right from NewEgg: > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220246 > ASUS Eee PC 4G – Galaxy Black Eee PC Intel processor 7" Wide VGA 512MB > 4GB Integrated Graphics - Retail for only $400! > > Hugo Those have been out for many months... I guess you didn't get the memo ;-) Many of the Linux faithful (and other brave souls) are snapping them up. Debian folks now are assembling instructions to support it as much as possible and getting all the required bits into Debian proper. Check wiki.debian.org for details. There are more linux subnotebooks on the way... -K -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___|
Re: changing the install location of a series of deb's
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 03:30:51PM -0500, richard white wrote: > I have a series of deb's (actually openoffice.org) that I need to install > under /usr/local instead of their default of location of /opt. Can this be > done without re-building the deb's? > > Thanks! > > Richard White > (not subscribed to this list) Hi, the DEB format contains a tar ball of the program files, so you can use dpkg options to extract that tar ball but this will not run the install script or register the install in the dpkg database, You can then use the 'equivs' program to add an entry to the dpkg database. This is extremely hacky at best. I dont recall such an option, maybe someone has a better suggestion. so: 'man dpkg'. -K -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: udev and ethernet connections
On Feb 18, 2008 2:40 PM, Jude DaShiell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No, I can't read the led's. Since the dsl plan has gone month to month > they'll probably not want to send anyone here. Another friend I know will > come and check this out wednesday or thursday of this week and if the > verizon stuff really is broken as I suspect we can use a credit card and > buy a couple Westell 327W modems on line for about $80.00. I'll probably > buy at least one in any case so as to have a backup if this happens again. > After that, I'll have to let verizon know the mac has changed on this > phone number then they can either do some work on their end or I'll have a > different provider shortly after that. My friend is another one who has > been having problems with verizon and he's getting tired of them and their > failure to admit their own foul ups too since these now happen more than > once a year. > > > > > Sorry you and your friend are having such an awful time with this. I just recalled some issue that I had when I first got it. I have more than one phone outlet. And I tried using my own phone wire as well as the one provided by verizon. I found the only way to use the DSL was with my 'main outlet' with their 'special' grey heavy duty round phone cable. For some reason if I used my flat cheap phone wire and the seconday outlet, the connection did not work. Not sure if you have such issue. Cheers, Kev -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: udev and ethernet connections
On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 06:10:36AM -0600, Jude DaShiell wrote: > No, Verizon wants customers even if they can use dhcp to only use pppoe. > This had been made clear to me by them on another occassion but at that > earlier time they didn't disable the connection. The only reason for > pppoe is so verizon can force logins to happen. There's been some > interesting developments over here. I actually have a Westel 327w modem. > I went the other day and held the reset button in for 30 seconds using > the point of a pencil and may have got the modem back pretty close to > factory defaults. Interestingly though, the area for setting dhcp or > pppoe connection on the web page the modem shows I can't find where to > set that. Also having stored my verizon credentials in the modem, dhcp > still isn't working so far as I can tell. If you having that much problem, I ask a verizon rep to come to your house to get things working. Its you dime, they should get things working. This is not 100% perfect, as they may not want to do it. But asking is fine, as you are the customer. I had a problem and they sent me a new modem (they thought it was the modem, but I knew it wasn't but it made them happy). So you can ask for something to be done. Are you able to read the leds? On my model when ever I had a problem it shows if the issue is with the dsl line or my machine and all the times its been a problem its always shown that its the dsl and not my machine. Good luck and hang in there, Kev -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: udev and ethernet connections
On Tue, Feb 12, 2008 at 09:43:25PM -0600, Jude DaShiell wrote: > I lost the credentials info for the modem and one time last year when > dhcp had been working for a couple days I had no internet connection at > all. Apparently verizon detected me using dhcp and broke my connection > down. The only way I can get out is by using pppoe. Other people in this > area have been having similar problems even if they haven't lost their > log in credentials for their modems. It just occurred to me that you may not have access to all of the requried information about the westell status lights. I have outages and the only way I had know, besides the connection not working, was the lights on the westell. Either one of the lights was red or blinking. Do you have a way to check this? -Kev -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: udev and ethernet connections
On Tue, Feb 12, 2008 at 09:43:25PM -0600, Jude DaShiell wrote: > I lost the credentials info for the modem and one time last year when > dhcp had been working for a couple days I had no internet connection at > all. Apparently verizon detected me using dhcp and broke my connection > down. The only way I can get out is by using pppoe. Other people in this > area have been having similar problems even if they haven't lost their > log in credentials for their modems. The login credentials are your email address and email password. Are you suggesting that using dhcp to get an ip address from the westell modem is illegal and cause for verizon to take some punitive action upon you and 'break your connection'? PPPOE is only needed if the westell is configured to not login/authenticate to the network. Otherwise, your linux box just needs dhcp and the westell needs to be setup to authenticate to the pppoe network by entering you credentials in its web interface. HTH, Kev -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: udev and ethernet connections
On Tue, Feb 12, 2008 at 06:41:40PM -0600, Jude DaShiell wrote: > file: /etc/network/interfaces (cut here) > # This file describes the network interfaces available on your system > # and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5). > > # The loopback network interface > auto lo > iface lo inet loopback > > # The primary network interface > allow-hotplug eth0 > iface eth0 inet dhcp > > auto dsl-provider > iface dsl-provider inet ppp > pre-up /sbin/ifconfig eth0 up # line maintained by pppoeconf > provider dsl-provider > > auto eth0 > > file: /etc/ppp/peers/dsl-provider (cut here) > # Minimalistic default options file for DSL/PPPoE connections > > noipdefault > defaultroute > replacedefaultroute > hide-password > #lcp-echo-interval 30 > #lcp-echo-failure 4 > noauth > persist > #mtu 1492 > #persist > #maxfail 0 > #holdoff 20 > plugin rp-pppoe.so eth0 > usepeerdns > user "xyzzy" > Hi Jude, if what you told me before is true, that you have a westell 6100 with verizon, then the pppoe is done on the westell (unless you changed its mode). And all you need to do is setup dhcp for eth0. So no pppoe should be needed. cheers, Kev -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bad E-mail setup in office. I need advice
I think this should be on the CD's we ship: On Tue, Feb 12, 2008 at 12:21:35PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > Compiling all the apps from source, and then writing the .conf files > from scratch is probably daunting to a non-expert, but Debian (of > course, I really mean the Debian Developers who do all the work) > make difficult technical tasks easier than baking a box-mix cake. "Debian ... make[s] difficult technical tasks easier than baking a box-mix cake." -- paraphrased from Ron Johnson. x-) -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] beefy steel cases
On Sat, Feb 09, 2008 at 12:24:56PM -0500, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> hello,
>
> Me again with my project.
>
> Some people off-list have found me some low-MHz computers and will mail
> me the boards with CPU + memory etc. One is a Tyan dual Pentium
> {133|166}.
>
> Now I'm looking for a great case in which to mount it (them?). Starting
> with wikipedia on EMR shielding, and surfing fro there, I've learned
> that steel is much better for this than aluminum of the same thickness,
> and the thicker the better (see skin depth). Wouldn't you know it: my
> Athlon64's case is steel frame with thin aluminum panels. So, I guess
> its case should be changed too.
>
> Asthetics don't matter.
How about this:
get any case you want.
get some guy who welds and make an outer box to put your computer it
with a few hole where needed.
This way you dont need 'a certain form-factor' because anything will fit
inside.
create a U shape: left side, bottom, right side
then make the front and back panels with a few holes for cables
and then a top to put on top of the U.
-K
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Re: localhost prefixing problem
On Sat, Feb 09, 2008 at 09:26:27AM -0600, Jude DaShiell wrote: > sample email message cut here: >> From [EMAIL PROTECTED]/POP3 Sat Feb 9 10:18:16 2008 > Newsgroups: Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2008 10:18:16 -0500 (EST) > From: Jude DaShiell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]/POP3> > X-X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: test message > Fcc: sent-mail > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > User-Agent: Alpine 1.00 (DEB 882 2007-12-20) > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=UTF-8 > > test for exim configuration. > > file: /etc/email-addresses cut here: > # This is /etc/email-addresses. It is part of the exim package > # > # This file contains email addresses to use for outgoing mail. Any local > # part not in here will be qualified by the system domain as normal. > # > # It should contain lines of the form: > # > #user: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > user:: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > user:: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > user:: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Earlier I had user: replaced with my local user account name followed by a > colon but that doesn't do any better than this configuration. Mine has this: *:[EMAIL PROTECTED] note the single colon and the asterick. HTH, K -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Etch-and-a-half? When?
On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 10:29:11PM -0800, Amit Uttamchandani wrote: > Hey guys, > > Here's a quote from the LCA: State of Debian article on lwn.net: > > "The Etch-and-a-half release will be happening soon. This is a version of > Etch which offers a 2.6.24 kernel - needed to make Etch work on newer > hardware. The original 2.6.18 kernel will remain an option for Etch users." > > This is very exciting! Any idea on what soon means? > > Thanks, > Amit http://wiki.debian.org/EtchAndAHalf More info here. -K [NB: I seem to be able to post to debian.org] -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Accessing a TV adapter via my network
On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 10:16:32PM +, Barry Samuels wrote: > On 05/02/08 10:13:37, Nate Duehr wrote: > > > > On Feb 5, 2008, at 2:26 AM, Barry Samuels wrote: > > > > > I don't intend a cardboard box to be a permanent solution but I've > > > no intention of buying a case until I know that the whole setup > > > works. > > Looks like it's time to get a case. Do you have a stuff Beaver around? http://www.yourpsychogirlfriend.com/beav/ -K -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Basic C and C++ Package
On Fri, Feb 08, 2008 at 04:22:14PM -0600, John Salmon wrote: > Tzafrir Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: > > > On Fri, Feb 08, 2008 at 11:09:06AM -0600, John Salmon wrote: > >> I'm relativly new to Debian Linux. Last month I found a package to > >> install the necessary modules to compile C and C++ source code. > >> Because of a HD problem, I had to do a rebuild of my system, losing > >> everything I had. I can't recall the call-out of that package. I'm > >> almost certain it was a Debian package, but I could be wrong. It > >> installed without problems using aptitude. > >> > >> Does anyone know what I'm talking about? > > > > build-essential > > > > That's it exactly. You've made an old man very happy. > Also, debian stores files for developing in packages that end in '-dev'. This may be helpful: apt-cache show manpages-dev -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
debian-user help idea
Hi, I usually post some but due to this unresolved debian.org mail issue(me being blocked from their domain) I have to post from a secondary account. I was thinking how d-u folks like to have lots of useful facts to help in problem solving. Then I thought how that kind of information is normally sent to the BTS when a user uses 'reportbug'. So I was thinking if someone could redo 'reportbug' to send initial d-u help requests sending useful info so that us helpers dont have to ask 10 times for basic stuff . Does this sound vaguely like a useful idea. Kevin Mark ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
how to get debian.org to accept my yahoo.com email
Hi debian-users, my ISP is verizon which uses yahoo.com for sending email. Recently my email from my .verizon.net account is not being shown on any .debian.org list. From what I understand debian.org does not want to receive any of my email because my mail is sent through yahoo.com which rfc-ignorant.org has listed as a spammer. I don't think there is anything I can do to stop yahoo from being a spammer. So can I get Debian to stop using the service of rfc-ignorant.org (I assume not)? Would the debian-whitelist fix this? Any suggestions? Kev ps . I can only use my gmail account to respond to any questions until this is fixed or email you directly. - Forwarded message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2007 20:38:45 + To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-FOLDER: .cron/ X-procmail: spamc Hi. This is the qmail-send program at yahoo.com. I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses. This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. : 82.195.75.100 does not like recipient. Remote host said: 550 5.7.1 : Recipient address rejected: Mail appeared to be SPAM or forged. Ask your Mail/DNS-Administrator to correct HELO and DNS MX settings or to get removed from DNSBLs; in postmaster.rfc-ignorant.org; in +abuse.rfc-ignorant.org Giving up on 82.195.75.100. --- Below this line is a copy of the message. Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Received: (qmail 31568 invoked from network); 3 Dec 2007 20:38:42 - Received: from unknown (HELO horacrux) ([EMAIL PROTECTED]@151.204.138.157 with plain) by smtp101.vzn.mail.dcn.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Dec 2007 20:38:42 - X-YMail-OSG: JpXBYlQVM1mTFXSp5CYqphhVfAf4sQNbXVmxyXbsCsyhwKtzJDUVgIF6KlwffY5MkAFlfrmXWSM9.8TL6oW8P.qoi.7o6Iy5VlQAsWtXvRHH_CrtbYk5 Received: from kevin by horacrux with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) id 1IzI3n-0005aS-C1 for debian-user@lists.debian.org; Mon, 03 Dec 2007 15:38:35 -0500 Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 15:38:35 -0500 From: Kevin Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Dual EMC Installation Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mail-Followup-To: Kevin Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, debian-user@lists.debian.org References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.15+20070412 (2007-04-11) On Sun, Dec 02, 2007 at 05:31:59PM -0500, Peter Skerda wrote: -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: listening to radio stations
On Fri, Nov 23, 2007 at 08:17:42AM -0600, Jude DaShiell wrote: > Do any command line tools exist in debian that will allow a user to listen > to a streaming broadcast say from > http://sc1.liquidviewer.com:9062/listen.pls I had that working fine on my > mac mini yesterday then the stream went away so I am interested to know if > debian can play this too if it's actually working. It's in the way of a > cross check. > Below is the output I got from my Ubuntu system using mplayer (just as a reference point). The version is "MPlayer 1.0rc2-4.1.3 (C) 2000-2007 MPlayer Team" -- $ mplayer http://sc1.liquidviewer.com:9062/listen.pls MPlayer 1.0rc2-4.1.3 (C) 2000-2007 MPlayer Team CPU: Intel Celeron 2/Pentium III Coppermine,Geyserville (Family: 6, Model: 8, Stepping: 3) CPUflags: MMX: 1 MMX2: 1 3DNow: 0 3DNow2: 0 SSE: 1 SSE2: 0 Compiled with runtime CPU detection. mplayer: could not connect to socket mplayer: No such file or directory Failed to open LIRC support. You will not be able to use your remote control. Playing http://sc1.liquidviewer.com:9062/listen.pls. Resolving sc1.liquidviewer.com for AF_INET6... Couldn't resolve name for AF_INET6: sc1.liquidviewer.com Resolving sc1.liquidviewer.com for AF_INET... Connecting to server sc1.liquidviewer.com[38.116.132.31]: 9062... Cache size set to 320 KBytes Playing http://sc1.liquidviewer.com:9062/. Resolving sc1.liquidviewer.com for AF_INET6... Couldn't resolve name for AF_INET6: sc1.liquidviewer.com Resolving sc1.liquidviewer.com for AF_INET... Connecting to server sc1.liquidviewer.com[38.116.132.31]: 9062... Name : WTOP 103.5 fm Genre : News Website: http://www.audiorealm.com Public : yes Bitrate: 24kbit/s Cache size set to 320 KBytes Cache fill: 0.00% (0 bytes) ICY Info: StreamTitle='';StreamUrl=''; Cache fill: 12.50% (40960 bytes) Audio file file format detected. == Forced audio codec: mad Opening audio decoder: [libmad] libmad mpeg audio decoder AUDIO: 22050 Hz, 1 ch, s16le, 24.0 kbit/6.80% (ratio: 3000->44100) Selected audio codec: [mad] afm: libmad (libMAD MPEG layer 1-2-3) == [AO SDL] Samplerate: 22050Hz Channels: Mono Format s16le AO: [sdl] 22050Hz 1ch s16le (2 bytes per sample) Video: no video Starting playback... A: 45.4 (45.4) of -0.0 (unknown) 0.8% 53% -- -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian Etch on OLPC Laptop
On Mon, Nov 19, 2007 at 12:10:45PM -0800, Amit Uttamchandani wrote: > Hey guys, > > The OLPC laptop can now be purchased in the U.S. and Canada for $399 (you are > actually buying two laptops and one goes to a child in a developing country). > Anyways I was considering this but I am not a big fan of the Sugar interface. > > I wanted to simply remove everything, install debian etch and then run a > lightweight window manager like Enlightenment DR17 or DWM. > > I understand that OLPC does not have a CDROM drive but I am sure Debian can > be installed in other ways. > > Next, will Debian Etch detect the hardware right away? It looks like the OLPC > has quite a few custom components built in. > > > What are your thoughts? > > Thanks, > Amit Maybe consider buying the EeePc laptop and make a donation to the XO fund? This way you get a more standard laptop that supports linux and help the XO fund? But I'm sure someone will work on XO/Linux, so maybe ask on an XO list? -K ps. I'm testing Sugar on my Ubuntu PC, it runs in a second Xephr window (:1 display). -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
