Re: fvwm and post.hook problem

2004-04-16 Thread Kirk Hilliard
Cameron Hutchison wrote:
> Unfortunately the new DebianMenu file does not read
> main-menu-pre.hook, so it is not possible to put your own stuff at
> the start of the menu, so my customised menu has my stuff after the
> standard debian stuff now.  This I had to do in menudefs.hook where
> I used to do it in main-menu-pre.hook.

The new approach is disappointing, but it looks like everything but the
missing main-menu-pre.hook read can be worked around, so I filed a bug
asking for its reinstatement.

  http://bugs.debian.org/243985

You may want to add onto this bug if you think more is called for.


As an immediate workaround I, like you, copied
  cp /etc/X11/fvwm/system.fvwm2rc.dpkg-old ~/.fvwm/.fvwm2rc

Then, to get the main-menu-pre.hook read back in, I edited
/etc/menu-methods/fvwm, adding a few lines back in:
-- 8< --
--- fvwm.orig   2004-04-08 14:48:28.0 -0400
+++ fvwm2004-04-15 19:30:27.0 -0400
@@ -35,6 +35,9 @@
 # 3. We add a trailing newline to the lot.
 
 startmenu=   "DestroyMenu \"" replacewith($section," ","_") "\"\n" \
+   ifeq($section, "/Debian", \
+ "AddToMenu \"/Debian\"\n" \
+ "Read main-menu-pre.hook Quiet\n") \
  "AddToMenu   \"" replacewith($section," ","_") "\" \"" \
  title() "\" Title Top\n"
 endmenu= "\n"
-- >8 --

and then ran update-menus.  Remember that the menus are automatically
generated.


Kirk Hilliard


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Looking for old Debian Logo Candidate (Ant)

2000-08-02 Thread Kirk Hilliard
I am trying to find one of the candidates from the Debian Logo
competition of last year.  It was an ant, was known as jeannette-0,
and used to be available at:

http://contest.gimp.org/view.cgi?month=1999-02&mode=show&graphic=jeannette-0


I am particularly looking for the ant head design, not the crawling
ant.  (I forget which was proposed as official and which as unofficial.)

Did anyone save this?  

Kirk



Authenticating SMTP Server

2000-05-26 Thread Kirk Hilliard
I would like to configure my SMTP server to relay mail for a few
friends who dial up and are dynamically assigned IPs.  I certainly
don't want an open relay, but I don't know what other options I have
with Debian.

A web search reveals several authenticating schemes -- some password
protected, one particularly elegant one accepting outgoing mail from
any IP from which the user has successfully checked POP3 mail in the
last several hours -- but they seem to be for commercial servers.

Neither Mail-Administrator-HOWTO nor Mail-HOWTO mention authentication.

What Debian options are there?

Kirk Hilliard



Re: OpenSSH <--> SSH2 interoperability

2000-04-22 Thread Kirk Hilliard
Problem solved.

Brian Moore provided this concise explanation via email:
-- 8< --
> I thought that various versions of ssh played well together even with
> OpenSSH's default configuration, but the name "SSH2 compatibility mode"
> suggests otherwise.

They don't.

ssh2 servers will, when receiving a connect from an ssh1 client, invoke
an ssh1 server to handle it assuming one is installed.

ssh2 clients will, when connecting to an ssh1 server, invoke an ssh1
client to talk to the server if one is installed.

You have an ssh1 server installed and answering, the person trying to
connect should install an ssh1 client so that his ssh2 client can fall
back to version 1.
-- >8 ------

Thanks again, Brian.

Kirk Hilliard


OpenSSH <--> SSH2 interoperability

2000-04-22 Thread Kirk Hilliard
sshd(8) tells of a -V switch

  -V client_protocol_id
  SSH2 compatibility mode.  When this options is specified
  sshd assumes the client has sent the given version string
  and skips the Protocol Version Identification Exchange.

but I can't find this further documented either in the man page or in
/usr/doc/ssh/.  Does anyone here know about this, and what format
"client_protocol_id" is supposed to be?  All formats I try earn me a
"Protocol mismatch." error.


My specific situation is that I have someone who tried to connect to
my sshd (OpenSSH-1.2.3, from ssh_1.2.3-2) with an ssh version 2.0.9
and was told:
  Disconnected; protocol version not supported.
Has anyone here run experienced this?


I thought that various versions of ssh played well together even with
OpenSSH's default configuration, but the name "SSH2 compatibility mode"
suggests otherwise.

Kirk Hilliard


Re: Help Reproduce a Bash Bug

2000-04-13 Thread Kirk Hilliard

I asked:
> Please help us reproduce an elusive bash bug.

Ethan Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> replied:
> ask them if they are using kernel 2.3.99 (or maybe some earlier 2.3.*
> kernel) there has been some notes about this on the kernel
> list. apparently the kernel has a bug or `feature' where it returns
> the wrong error.  it has nothing to do with bash iirc.

Bingo!

Thanks Ethan.

Kirk


Help Reproduce a Bash Bug

2000-04-13 Thread Kirk Hilliard
Debian users,

Please help us reproduce an elusive bash bug.

Bug#62154 reports that Bash gives a "Permission denied" error when it
should complain "No such file or directory", but neither the Bash
maintainer nor I can reproduce it.

Please execute the following from the command line:

  ./thisdoesnotexist

Assuming that you do not have a file by such a name, you should see
the following error message:

  bash: ./thisdoesnotexist: No such file or directory

If, however, you see this error message:

  bash: ./thisdoesnotexist: Permission denied

(and thisdoesnotexist does not exist) then please run the these
commands:

  ./thisdoesnotexist
  ls -ld . thisdoesnotexist
  echo $SHELL
  echo $BASH_VERSION
  pwd
  mount
  uname -srm

and paste the results into a mail message to me.

Thank you,

Kirk Hilliard


Re: password

2000-04-08 Thread Kirk Hilliard
Beavis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> how do u change passwords?

"man -k password" will list the name and a short description of all
man pages concerning passwords.  At this point, a knowledge of man
page section numbers would keep you from reading all 30 lines.  (See
"man man".)  Only 3 of the 30 are from section 1, "Executable programs
or shell commands", and the one you want is:
  passwd (1)   - change user password
So read "man passwd" and then run it.

Kirk Hilliard


Re: END Key in Emacs (only in Xterm)

2000-04-06 Thread Kirk Hilliard
[ The END key no longer works in "emacs -nw" in an xterm. ]

Rodrigo Castro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>  The problem, in my opinion, comes when it reads xterm.elc and this
> file doesn't assign correctly.

That's it.  The problem is with the xterm.el (and xterm.elc) files of
all four flavors of emacs, because they contain the line:

(define-key function-key-map "\e[4~" [select])

It looks like xemacs also breaks the HOME key.

The files in question are:

  /usr/share/emacs/19.34/lisp/term/xterm.elc
  /usr/share/emacs/19.34/lisp/term/xterm.el
  /usr/share/emacs/20.5/lisp/term/xterm.elc
  /usr/share/emacs/20.5/lisp/term/xterm.el
  /usr/lib/xemacs-20.4/lisp/term/xterm.elc
  /usr/lib/xemacs-20.4/lisp/term/xterm.el.gz
  /usr/lib/xemacs-21.1.8/lisp/term/xterm.elc
  /usr/lib/xemacs-21.1.8/lisp/term/xterm.el.gz

and they come from the following packages:

  emacs19
  emacs20
  emacs20-el
  xemacs20-support
  xemacs20-supportel
  xemacs21-support
  xemacs21-supportel

A makeshift solution is to remove the offending .elc file and either
edit the .el file or just removed it as well.  (You can byte compile
your edited .el file if you wish, but it is pretty small.)

I sent a note about this problem to debian-emacsen.

Kirk Hilliard


Re: END Key in Emacs (only in Xterm)

2000-04-06 Thread Kirk Hilliard
Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> "infocmp xterm linux" reveals that kend is defined the same for both
> terminal types, and the default xterm Xresources file explicitly binds the
> End key to ESC [ 4 ~.  If xemacs can't handle that I suggest you contact
> its package maintainer.

infocmp must not be telling the whole story.

The END key does not work in "emacs20 -nw" in an xterm with
"TERM=xterm", but it does work with "TERM=xterms" and
"infocmp xterm xterms" returns no differences at all.

Run "emacs20 -nw" from an xterm with TERM=xterm, type
"M-x describe-bindings-internal" and 635 lines down (it's
easiest to search on "home") you will find this:

  M-[ 4 ~ select
  [snip 9 lines]
  M-[ 1 ~ home

Do this again with TERM=xterms and 631 lines down you will find:

  M-[ 4 ~ end
  [snip 5 lines]
  M-[ 1 ~ home

The problem exists with both versions of emacs, but emacs19 doesn't
have the describe-bindings-internal function.

This is with an up to date potato system running xterm 3.3.6-6,
emacs20 20.5a-2, and emacs19 19.34-26.3.

Kirk Hilliard


Re: 80 MB ram in debian system

1998-03-09 Thread Kirk Hilliard
[Concerning passing boot parameter with a boot disk.]

Ossama Othman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> If you are just starting out and don't want to mess around
> with configuration files or just want to experiment, you can manually
> enter "mem=80M" (don't type the quotes) or whatever amount of RAM you have
> at the "boot:" line.  You would have to do this each time you boot.  That
> would be equivalent to 'append="mem=80M"' in your lilo.conf file.  LILO
> really is the better way to go, as Alex pointed out.

How do I get the the "boot:" prompt?  I remember seeing it a while
back, but now the first thing that I see is "Loading...".

Kirk Hilliard


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Re: less clears screen after exiting

1998-02-13 Thread Kirk Hilliard
Tomihisa Welsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> complained that:
>   Ever since I installed debian 1.3.1, less will unwantingly clear
> the screen when after viewing a document (within an xterm).  I can get rid
> of this problem with the "-X" option (disables termcap before and after
> calling less) however this option also disables my arrowkeys.  Any ideas?

and G John Lapeyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> replied:
> 
> My hamm distribution doesn't do it, in xterm nor rxvt.
> I don't know if its my .bashrc thats different or hamm vs. stable.

Really?  It's not hamm since I am running an up to date unstable
system and I have the same behavior that Tomihisa describes.  Are you
doing anything unusual in your .bashrc?

This situation should be figured out and either fixed (so that the
arrow keys work with ``less -X'') or a work-around put on the
auto-faq.

Kirk Hilliard


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Re: X Windows

1998-02-12 Thread Kirk Hilliard
Adam Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

I wrote:
> 
>   If you have a ps2 mouse, run gpm with the -R repeater switch, and
>   tell X to use
> 
>  Protocol"MouseSystems"
>  Device  "/dev/gpmdata"
> 
>   in the "Pointer" section of your XF86Config so that you will still
>   be able to use gpm when you visit the console for old time's sake.

and Adam Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> replied:
> I don't have to do this.  I run unstable (does it make a
> difference?), and both 2.0.33 and 2.1.86.  When I switch to text
> mode, the mouse immediately works.  When I go back to X, it
> sometimes takes a few seconds to start functioning(the mouse).

Strange.  I just checked and I still need it on unstable running
2.0.32.  (Symptom: mouse does not move at all in X.  Hardware: Toshiba
Tecra 730CDT laptop.)  Do you have a PS/2 mouse?  I understood that
the problem was that the kernel did not know how to share /dev/psaux
between two processes, and that this was on someone's 2.1 todo list,
but I never heard if anything had been done yet.

When I go back to X, it also takes about a second for the mouse to
start functioning, so I don't think that this is a symptom.

At first I was skeptical about gpm -R, but I am quite happy with it as
it seems to work transparently.

Kirk


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Re: X Windows

1998-02-12 Thread Kirk Hilliard
Hi Pete,

> Does anyone think X windows is something I should have for my linux
> system?  All I do is program.  Would it help me in any way?

This depends on your personal taste and on your hardware.

For me, my 486-33 with a non-accelerated ISA video board did not have
enough performance to justify X for anything that I could also do from
the console.  I found it very distracting the way that an xterm lagged
when I scrolled text full speed in less.  It is wonderful that with
linux you have the option of using multiple VCs with scroll back and
gpm, giving you many, but not all of the advantages you gain with X.

I now primarily run a P-150 laptop (so X performance is no longer an
issue) with a 12.1 1024x768 screen, and with the "fixed" font (6x13) I
can get two 80x56 xterms side-by-side without overlap.  This
no-overlap criteria was what had me hold out until 1024x768 became
available.  (Everyone who looks at my laptop remarks on how small the
font is, but I don't know if it is the sharpness and high contrast of
the LCD display or what, but I find it easier to read than same font
on much larger CRTs.)

With X, you will be able to set up your xterms with several thousand
line scroll-back buffers, and you won't lose the scroll-back data in
one xterm when you look at another, like with the VCs.

In addition to having multiple xterms (or emacs windows) visible at
once, you will still be able to shift between desktops (or between
pages on a desktop if that is what you like) with the same ALT-arrow
ease that you use to shift between VCs.  Personally, I run fvwm2 (as
my window manager) and set myself up with one page per desktop, but
with a two dimensional layout of desktops (achieved by making
ALT-up/down change the desktop number by 1000).  I hardly ever have
windows overlapping each other, but instead have a couple of dozen
windows distributes across a dozen or so desktops.  I will sometimes
make an emacs window sticky (so that it stays in place as I change
desktops) and arrange several xterms in neighboring desktops so that I
can switch between them as I cut and paste code from several other .h
or .c files or manpages to the emacs window which remains visible
throughout the process.


Here are a some of mouse related survival tips for X:

  X expects a three button mouse, and you can emulate the third button
  on a two button mouse by pressing both buttons simultaneously, but
  in X, button 2 (traditionally the middle one) is used for more
  important functions than button 3 -- such as for pasting text.  So
  you might want to swap buttons 2 and 3 by putting this in your
  .xsessions:

xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 3 2"


  When emacs is run in its own window, text is pasted at the mouse
  location, not at point.  This is likely to drive you batty if you
  have used gpm a lot, so you can override this by putting this line
  in your .emacs:

(setq mouse-yank-at-point t)

  You can still move point to the mouse location before pasting (if
  that is what you want) by pressing mouse-1.


  Also, use alternate selection in emacs to avoid moving point when
  selecting text.  Do this by holding down Meta (alt) while using the
  mouse.  Because of an evil thing done in the system.fvwm2rc which
  causes fvwm2 to intercept Meta-mouse events (see Bug #17668), you
  may need to put this line in your ~/.fvwm2/post.hook:

Mouse 0 W M -


  If you have a ps2 mouse, run gpm with the -R repeater switch, and
  tell X to use

 Protocol"MouseSystems"
 Device  "/dev/gpmdata"

  in the "Pointer" section of your XF86Config so that you will still
  be able to use gpm when you visit the console for old time's sake.


Enjoy,

Kirk (a programmer who was quite happy with his VCs, but who loves the
added power of X)

P.S.  Did I mention that you will be able to run ediff-merge with the
  two source files side by side.  It makes comparisons much easier.


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Re: how to update

1998-02-11 Thread Kirk Hilliard
Martin Pelikan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> aksed:
>
> what is the fastest way to update from libc5 to libc6?

and Jens Ritter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> responded:
> This script can:
> http://taz.net.au/autoup/
> 
> It downloads all required packages and installs them in the right order.

Craig Sanders' autoup script is the way to go, but first make sure
that you read Scott Ellis' Mini-HOWTO at:
  http://www.debian.org/doc/libc5-libc6-Mini-HOWTO/libc5-libc6-Mini-HOWTO.html
also available as a link from:
  http://www.debian.org/developers_corner.html

You should do this not only so that you know what process is being
automated, but also because it mentions some of the ramifications of
the upgrade which aren't discussed in the script.  The autoup script
does not yet have its own stand-alone documentation.

Kirk Hilliard


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Re: cdwrite and cd writers

1998-02-11 Thread Kirk Hilliard
Hi Stefan,

> cdrecord (including 1.6a9) is using illegal code, which makes it impossible
> to compile on all versions of linux.
> 
> small example, found in lib/format.c
> 
> 
> va_list rargs;
> 
> rargs = va_arg(args, va_list);
> 
> 
> this is possible on linux/x86 because va_list is a void *
> 
> on linux/ppc however, va_list is a struct, and handled by va_ppc.h
> and this makes compilation fail. 
> 
> format() will need to be rewritten without a recursive use of va_list.

Is this being done (by cdrecord's upstream author J. Schilling, by
cdrecord's Debian package maintainer Erik Andersen, by one of the
Debian developers working on the ports to non-i386 platforms)?  What
do these people have to say about the situation?

You should open a bug against this package so that this problem can be
tracked.

Kirk Hilliard


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Re: hamm

1998-02-08 Thread Kirk Hilliard
Hi Florian!
>
> Is it already possible to upgrade to the unstable release of debian???
> How???

The process is explained at:

  http://www.debian.org/doc/libc5-libc6-Mini-HOWTO/libc5-libc6-Mini-HOWTO.html

(also accessible as a the link "libc5-libc6-Mini-HOWTO" from
http://www.debian.org/developers_corner.htm)

Most all of this process is automated by the autoup.sh script found at:

  http://taz.net.au/autoup/

You should still read over the Mini-HOWTO even if you use the script.

Kirk Hilliard


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Re: Hamm fvwm2 -- new Focus behavior

1998-01-28 Thread Kirk Hilliard
I am still confused about how some functions that I define to emulate
the old Focus function (which also Raised) cause focus to
automatically shift back to under the mouse, but others don't.

Anyhow, here is an improvement on what I last posted, and it still
behaves the way the old Focus did.

>From the tail of my ~/.fvwm2/post.hook:

  # The Focus command no longer raises the window automatically.
  # Here is a function that emulates the old Focus behavior.
  DestroyFunc focus-and-raise
  AddToFunc   focus-and-raise "I" Focus
  +   "I" Raise

  # And here are the new bindings.
  Key Tab A   M   Next [CurrentDesk !iconic] focus-and-raise
  Key Tab A   MS  Prev [CurrentDesk !iconic] focus-and-raise

Kirk Hilliard


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Re: adduser in hamm dumps core !

1998-01-27 Thread Kirk Hilliard
Hi Joost!

I also upgraded to the 5.004.04-4 perl and perl-base packages this
morning.  While adduser still does not segfault for me, perl still
segfaults and dumps core when I run either my couple hundred line mail
preprocessing script on one particular input file, or when I run
Vitaly Belostotsky's four line script given in:

  http://www.debian.org/Bugs/db/17/17393.html

Have you tried to run this on you hamm system:

  $ perl -e 'use POSIX; $m{'a'}=0; $n=strftime( "%b",0,0,0,0,0,0 );'
  Segmentation fault (core dumped)
  $ perl -e 'use POSIX; $n=strftime( "%b",0,0,0,0,0,0 );'
  $ 

Kirk


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Re: Ans: Re: Debian max file size is 1GB instead of 2GB?

1998-01-27 Thread Kirk Hilliard
Steve Hsieh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> To anyone interested in this --
> 
> The problem was not related to the kernel, but to ulimit.  
> /etc/login.defs has ULIMIT set to 1GB for some reason.   However, it is
> not clear to me why some accounts use this value, while other accounts
> ignore it.  In any case, if you comment out the ULIMIT line, all accounts
> no longer have the 1GB restriction and you can create files up to the real
> 2GB limit.

Aha!  Then this might be fixed in hamm:

On my machine running bo:
  $ ulimit
  1048576

On my machine running hamm:
  $ ulimit
  unlimited

I ran out of space at 1GB on the bo machine, but I don't have space to
check this on the hamm machine.  Did anyone here run into a 1GB limit
on a hamm machine?

Kirk Hilliard

P.S.  There doesn't seem to be sufficient difference between
  /etc/login.defs on the two machines to account for this.


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Re: adduser in hamm dumps core !

1998-01-27 Thread Kirk Hilliard
Oleg Krivosheev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Mon, 26 Jan 1998, Neilen Marais wrote:
> 
[snip]
> > You can make sure by typing ldd /usr/bin/perl.  If you see any mention
> > of libc5, you know something is causing perl to be linked to the worng
> > library
> 
> that's the case - perl is linked against both libc6 and libc5.
> 
> But i have latest perl bundle from hamm !!!

[adduser has not segfaulted for me yet, but other Perl scripts have]

I also have the latest perl bundles, and I show.

  ~ $ ldd /usr/bin/perl
  libnsl.so.1 => /lib/libnsl.so.1 (0x4000e000)
  libgdbm.so.1 => /usr/lib/libgdbm.so.1 (0x40014000)
  libdb.so.2 => /lib/libdb.so.2 (0x4001a000)
  libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x40028000)
  libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6 (0x4002b000)
  libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x40044000)
  /lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x4000)
  libcrypt.so.1 => /lib/libcrypt.so.1 (0x400e9000)

What do you show?

The reason that I posted this instead of just emailing Oleg is that I
hope that someone here can riddle me this:

  ~ $ ls -il  /usr/bin/{perl,perl.dist,perl5.00404}
   115161 -rwxr-xr-x   2 root root 492108 Dec  9 20:17 /usr/bin/perl*
   115161 -rwxr-xr-x   2 root root 492108 Dec  9 20:17 /usr/bin/perl.dist*
   114698 -rwxr-xr-x   1 root root 492108 Dec  9 20:17 /usr/bin/perl5.00404*
  ~ $ diff  /usr/bin/{perl,perl5.00404}
  ~ $ 

Why do I have two distinct copies of perl?

Kirk Hilliard


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Re: How to properly set TERM variable

1998-01-26 Thread Kirk Hilliard
Britton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I like to set TERM=xterm-color, and don't have a lot of patience with
> programs that can't deal with this.  When telneting, it is good to put
> TERM=vt100 or some such thing in your .bashrc or it's equivelent on the
> remote system.

Note that, as things stand now, in hamm there is no xterm-color.
/etc/terminfo/x/xterm includes the color definition, and there is a
/usr/share/terminfo/x/xterm-old.[1]  (There are also color_xterm,
xterm-16color, and xterm-pcolor, but no xterm-color.)

For some details see:

  http://www.debian.org/Bugs/db/14/14366.html


Kirk Hilliard


[1]  I hate dselect[2] in a color xterm since the whitespace
 surrounding the descriptive text of the information section
 is not colored, so big blocks of reverse video text jump around
 as I scroll through packages.  Hence, I always run:

   # TERM=xterm-old dselect


[2]  I have noticed that, in hamm, dselect no longer seems to handle
 xterm resizing.  Also, stray characters sometime appear after
 rapidly scrolling through packages.  Has anyone else noticed
 this, and is it a bug in dselect, or in ncurses, or what?


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Re: adduser in hamm dumps core !

1998-01-26 Thread Kirk Hilliard
Oleg Krivosheev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> have all hamm system and just found that
> adduser dumps core independently of
> any given input.

Hi Oleg!

Does this include when it is given no input, as in:

  # adduser
  adduser: I need a name to add.
  #

If so, then it will be easier for people to test it without actually
adding users.

Anyhow, I have an all hamm system (up to date against my mirror as of
24 hours ago, giving me adduser version 3.8) and in response to your
query I ran "adduser ", answered the questions, and it
worked.

adduser is a perl script, and bug#17393 reports perl segfaulting and
dumping core on a simple script.  Whereas Vitaly Belostotsky provided
a four line script which does this consistently, I have a couple
hundred line script which does this much more sporadically and is
highly dependent on its input data (and is even sensitive to print
statements that I added for debugging purposes).  Since adduser reads
system information, it could be that the data it gets from your system
is just right to trigger this bug.

I bumped the severity of bug#17393 up to important yesterday.

Kirk Hilliard


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Re: Hamm fvwm2 -- new Focus behavior

1998-01-26 Thread Kirk Hilliard
Hi Jameson!

> I also found the fvwm changes troublesome since I had to spend a
> few hours (or was that days) redoing post.hook.  I also feel
> something like  should raise and focus on successive
> windows.  I found the default fvwm configuration anemic.
[snip]
> HERE IS SOME OF MY CODE FROM post.hook:
[snip]
> # I make  cycle and popup windows.
> # I believe this was the default before, but something has changed in fvwm2.
> # CirculateUp is obsolete.
> Key Tab A C Function next-and-raise
> AddToFunc  next-and-raise I Next [CurrentPage !iconic] Focus
> + I Current Raise
> + I Current WarpToWindow 5p 5p
> 
> Key Tab A SCFunction previous-and-raise
> AddToFunc  previous-and-raise I Prev [CurrentPage !iconic] Focus
> + I Current Raise
> + I Current WarpToWindow 5p 5p
[snip]

That mostly does it, but I would rather not WarpToWindow -- I want the
cursor to stay put.  But if I leave WarpToWindow out, then focus
returns to the window under the cursor.

This is not the case with when just Focus is bound to the key (such as
in /etc/X11/fvwm2/system.fvwm2rc) -- either with the good old behavior
where Focus also raised and with the new behavior where it doesn't.
It appears that this "refocus under mouse" behavior is brought on by
multi-line function definitions using "+".

Aha!  I just discovered that if I add the Focus and Raise commands on
separate AddToFunc lines without the "+", it works as I wanted.  Also,
it seems that when the "+" is used, then the function takes longer to
execute.  I don't understand why this is, do you?

I am now happy with this tail of my ~/.fvwm2/post.hook:

  # FVWM2 Focus command no longer raises the window automatically.
  # Here are some functions to compensate for that.
  
  DestroyFunc next-and-raise
  AddToFunc   next-and-raise I Next [CurrentDesk !iconic] Focus
  AddToFunc   next-and-raise I Current Raise
  
  DestroyFunc previous-and-raise
  AddToFunc   previous-and-raise I Prev [CurrentDesk !iconic] Focus
  AddToFunc   previous-and-raise I Current Raise
  
  Key Tab A   M   Function next-and-raise
  Key Tab A   MS  Function previous-and-raise

Thanks Jameson,

Kirk Hilliard


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Re: Debian max file size is 1GB instead of 2GB?

1998-01-25 Thread Kirk Hilliard
On 24 Jan, Steve Hsieh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> It seems that on Debian, the maximum single file size on ext2fs is 1GB and
> not 2GB.  Can someone confirm this, and suggest how to fix the problem,
> if possible?

To which Stephen P. Ryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> replied:
> 
> I no longer have the space to test this, but I did have a 2GB file in
> a 2.5GB partition on a Debian 1.3 system several months ago.  

Well, I've got a bunch of free space here.  Let's see:

  $ # Try to make a 1.5GB file.
  $ perl -le '$_=6x1023; print while ++$i<=1024*512*3' > big
  $ ls -l big 
  -rw-r--r--   1 kirk kirk 1073741824 Jan 24 22:53 big
  $ echo "hello" >> big
  $ ls -l big 
  -rw-r--r--   1 kirk kirk 1073741824 Jan 24 22:55 big
  $ wc big 
  1048576 1048576 1073741824 big

Exactly 1GB.  FWIW, this is a 486/33 running stock Debian 1.3 using
the kernel from a 1997-06-20 rescue disk.

Kirk Hilliard


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Re: [Q] dselect-mountable install does not find packages

1998-01-25 Thread Kirk Hilliard
Hi peter!

I don't understand your response.

> > > For instance I don't have "Packages.gz" in 'hamm/hamm' but only
> > > in 'hamm/hamm/binary-i386'. Same to others.
> > 
> > Packages.gz is supposed to be in binary-i386.
> 
> (there's a link from one step down to binary-i386)

Where?  I just scoped out ftp.debian.org, and it, like my mirror, has
Packages.gz in binary-i386.  No symlinks there.

> > Oh!  Are you not mirroring binary-all?  A lot of the "packages" in
> > binary-i386 are actually links to binary-all.
> 
> If I didn't mirror it I wasn't able to install most of the stuff. :)

Huh?  Are you saying that of course you are mirroring binary-all since
you installed a lot of packages which require it?

Have you checked to see that some of the packages dselect is
complaining about are in place on your mirror, either in binary-i386
or as a symlink from there to binary-all?  If so, then I don't know
what is going on.  Have you tried dselect's "mounted" method?  The
"mountable" method is great, but this could provide a good debugging
test.

Kirk Hilliard


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Re: [Q] dselect-mountable install does not find packages

1998-01-25 Thread Kirk Hilliard
Hi Peter!

> Well, perhaps -- I cannot tell really -- it's related to that I'm not
> using a full mirror. For instance I don't have "Packages.gz" in
> 'hamm/hamm' but only in 'hamm/hamm/binary-i386'. Same to others. Seems
> that it looks for the files in the wrong directory...

Packages.gz is supposed to be in binary-i386.

Oh!  Are you not mirroring binary-all?  A lot of the "packages" in
binary-i386 are actually links to binary-all.

Kirk Hilliard


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Re: [Q] dselect-mountable install does not find packages

1998-01-25 Thread Kirk Hilliard
grin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> The 'mountable' method of dselect is great -- you don't have to wait for
> thousands of packages telling you "it's already installed".

Agreed!  BZ to its author (Andy Mortimer, I think).

> But while from the local disk mirror it worked flawlessly, I failed
> to use it through NFS.

I am using it succesfully via NFS against a mirror of Hamm.

> I have a partial mirror of hamm on the NFS, containing only the
> directories you see below:
> 
> I set it up to use NFS mount in fstab, entered the dirs (hamm/binary-i386,
> contrib/binary-i386, non-free/binary-i386 and non-us/hamm), and update
> worked fine. After selecting I went on to [I]nstall, but it told me 

OK, just curious here -- what did you enter non-us/hamm as -- your
local arcive?  This is not related to your problems, but I was
surprised that I was only asked for main, contrib, non-free, and local
-- no mention of non-us.

> "Warning: package XX, version X.Y-Z not available for installation.
> Skipping."

I don't know about this, but ...

> and some
> 
> "Error: package XX does not have a filename! Skipping."

this sounds like bug#8054 against dpkg-mountable.  If a package fails
to install, dselect (using the mountable method) looses track of it
(Andy thinks that some strange behavior of dpkg itself is to blame for
the actual problem) and you have to rerun "1. [U]pdate" in dselect.

Give that a try and see what happens.  It may be that some other
problem is keeping the packages from installing, giving this bug a
chance to rear its head.  Let me know what happens, as I am very
interested in seeing this wonderful method working well for the hamm
release.

Andy, do you think that bug#8054 will be resolved prior to the release
of hamm?  Do you need someone to help debugging?

Kirk Hilliard


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Hamm fvwm2 -- new Focus behavior

1998-01-24 Thread Kirk Hilliard
The behavior of the Focus command has changed in the version of fvwm2
provided in hamm.

/usr/doc/fvwm2/ChangeLog.gz says:
  2.0.46
  [snip]
37. Focus command no longer raises - use an interpreted
focus-and-raise function if that's desired

/etc/X11/fvwm2/system.fvwm2rc (in both bo and hamm) contains the lines:
  Key Tab A   M   Next [CurrentDesk !iconic] Focus
  Key Tab A   MS  Prev [CurrentDesk !iconic] Focus

I prefer the old behavior where Alt-Tab raised the window that it
shifted focus to, so I added the following lines to my
~/.fvwm2/post.hook:

  DestroyFunc focus-and-raise
  AddToFunc   focus-and-raise
  + "I" Raise
  + "I" Focus
  
  Key Tab A   M   Next [CurrentDesk !iconic] focus-and-raise
  Key Tab A   MS  Prev [CurrentDesk !iconic] focus-and-raise

This works as long as my mouse is not in a window, but if it is, then
focus shifts back to the window that the mouse is in after it finishes
raising the next one.  How can I duplicate the behavior of Focus in bo
where the focus stays with the newly raised window regardless of mouse
position?

(This behavior is independent of SloppyFocus, which I normally use.)

Kirk Hilliard


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pcmcia Megahertz XJ10BT troubles

1998-01-23 Thread Kirk Hilliard
Hi all!

I have two PCMCIA ethernet cards, both on the list of supported cards
for pcmcia-cs, and one works fine but the other does not seem to be
recognized.

The details:
  Computer:   Toshiba Tecra 730CDT
  Cards:  Linksys EthernetCard Model No. EC2T (works)
  Megahertz PCMCIA Ethernet Model XJ10BT or XJ10BC
(It says XJ10BT on the box.  I think that XJ10BC is the
 same card but with a dongle for 10Base2.)
  Kernel: 2.0.32 with Tecra patch, built with default Debian options.
  Software:   pcmcia-cs 2.9.12-2
  pcmcia-modules-2.0.32 2.9.12-2

The Linksys card works fine, but when I insert the Megahertz card I
get two beeps, one high, one low, followed by the following message on
the xconsole:

  Jan 22 19:54:37 globe cardmgr[88]: initializing socket 1
  Jan 22 19:54:37 globe cardmgr[88]: unsupported card in socket 1
  Jan 22 19:54:37 globe cardmgr[88]: version info: "Meg", "", "@", ""
  Jan 22 19:54:37 globe cardmgr[88]: manfid: 0x0128, 0x0103

I had the same behavior in bo (using pcmcia-cs_2.9.6-3 and
pcmcia-modules-2.0.29-7_2.9.6-3) except that I only got one beep (low)
before the above message appeared.

/usr/doc/pcmcia-cs/SUPPORTED.CARDS.gz contains the following entry
in the list of supported cards:

  Megahertz XJ10BT, CC10BT Ethernet

I checked out David Hinds' site
  http://hyper.stanford.edu/HyperNews/get/pcmcia/forums.html
and didn't find any problems reported against this card.

Any suggestions?

Kirk Hilliard

P.S.  The Linksys card is physically damaged and I need to prop
  popsicle sticks under the connector to make it work, so I would
  like to get the Megahertz working.  Besides, I want to see how
  well that cool looking XJack works in practice.


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Re: emacs, X, and Alt key

1998-01-21 Thread Kirk Hilliard
Hi Mark!

> I, like Thomas Vaughan, have been having problems getting emacs to
> recognise the Alt key under X.  (The system is a Toshiba laptop.)

I'm running a Toshiba Tecra 730CDT, and the Alt key in emacs under X
works fine in combination with other keys without any special setup.
What model is your laptop and what window manager are you using?

One problem with fvwm2 it is the line in 
/etc/X11/fvwm2/system.fvwm2rc which breaks Meta-mouse:

  Mouse 0 W M move-and-raise-or-raiselower

I fix it by adding this line to my ~/.fvwm2/post.hook:

  Mouse 0 W M -

Meta-mouse is used in emacs for secondary selection.  I will bring
this up with the fvwm2 maintainer if this line is still in the hamm
version.

Kirk Hilliard

P.S.  I would rather use "emacs -nw" in an xterm than use emacs in
  its own window if it were not for secondary selection and
  mouse-yank-at-point.  Put (setq mouse-yank-at-point t) in your
  ~/.emacs and give it a try.


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Re: Mirroring hamm question

1997-12-13 Thread Kirk Hilliard
I don't have an answer to Caleb's questioning about mirroring hamm,
but I do have a related question.

There are symbolic links in the hamm tree which point to the
corresponding bo file for files which have not yet been upgraded to
hamm.  I would like to mirror all of hamm, and only that part of bo
which is pointed to by links from hamm.  From reading the mirror man
page, it looks to me like I could do this by "flattening out" the
remote site symlinks using ``flags_recursive+L'', but I would rather
have those bo files pointed to by hamm links actually mirrored in a
(partial) bo tree, and keep the links as links in my local hamm
mirror.  Is it possible to tell mirror to do that?  I don't have
enough disk space to have a complete mirror of bo in addition to hamm,
and I like to be able to see the links as they indicate that the file
has not yet been uploaded for hamm.

Kirk Hilliard


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Re: ThinkPad 560

1997-12-09 Thread Kirk Hilliard
Hi Paul!

Paul Rightley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I know of no Thinkpads that can boot bzImages (though I do not know
> many Thinkpads) - which is why the 'tecra' disks work (i.e. they are
> zImages).

Is this true?  I thought that the Tecra disks were still bzImages, but
were compiled with the kernel patch from Jen's Maurer's site, "Linux
on the Toshiba Tecra series":
  http://www.cck.uni-kl.de/misc/tecra710/

If this is still the case, is the patch provided in one of the source
packages?

Kirk Hilliard


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Re: Cron and find

1997-12-04 Thread Kirk Hilliard
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> I often have some nfs filesystems mounted on my machine and whenever cron
> runs updatedb I end up with a huge mail listing each file on the nfs
> filesystems saying permission denied. Is there a way to stop this message
> without unmounting the filesystems?

Hi G'razel!

Have you tried adding the NFS mount point to PRUNEPATHS in
/etc/updatedb.conf?  Check out updatedb(1).

HTH,
Kirk Hilliard


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Re: ALT key in X for Emacs

1997-12-04 Thread Kirk Hilliard
Mark Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The ALT key works under emacs when in console mode.  But it doesn't work
> under X.  Is there any reason for this?  How can I fix it?
> 
> Perhaps I need to use xmodmap?  I heard something about a userfriendly
> version of this.  Does anyone know what it's called?

Paul Seelig already mentioned xkeycaps.  Perhaps this is what you were
looking for, but if your problem is that Meta-Mouse buttons (used for
secondary selection -- a very important emacs feature allowing
selection of text without moving point) no longer work, it may be due
to this insidious line which crept into bo's
/etc/X11/fvwm2/system.fvwm2rc:

  Mouse 0 W M move-and-raise-or-raiselower

I override it with these lines in my ~/.fvwm2/post.hook:

  # Allow Meta-mouse events to pass on to the clients.  This is
  # especially important for emacs with secondary selection.
  Mouse 0 W M -

I have been meaning to check and see if a bug report has been filed on
this yet.

Kirk Hilliard


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Re: emacs and .Xdefaults

1997-12-04 Thread Kirk Hilliard
Last week I issued a plea for help:
> I just made a new installation of bo, and emacs no longer seems to
> read my ~/.Xdefaults file like it used to in rex.

And Wintermute <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> came to the rescue:
> Try this..
> 
> xrdb -merge ~/.Xdefaults

That does the job!

Since it only works for the current X session, I added it to my
~/.xsession file and all is fine.  Still, I did not have to do this in
rex.  Is this change a bug or a feature?

Thanks,
Kirk Hilliard


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emacs and .Xdefaults

1997-11-30 Thread Kirk Hilliard
I just made a new installation of bo, and emacs no longer seems to
read my ~/.Xdefaults file like it used to in rex.

  ~ $ cat ~/.Xdefaults
  emacs.font: -misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed--13-*-*-*-c-60-iso8859-1
  ~ $ cat ~/.Xdefaults-globe
  emacs.font: -misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed--13-*-*-*-c-60-iso8859-1
  ~ $ hostname
  globe
  ~ $ emacs
  ~ $ echo "That one came up with the big ugly default font."
  That one came up with the big ugly default font.
  ~ $ emacs -fn "-misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed--13-*-*-*-c-60-iso8859-1"
  ~ $ echo "That one came up with the nice small font that I want."
  That one came up with the nice small font that I want.
  ~ $ 

How can I get this to work again?

Kirk "alias emacs='emacs -fn fixed'" Hilliard


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Re: Laptop computers

1997-11-26 Thread Kirk Hilliard
On Nov 26, 10:10, "Kevin Traas" wrote:
> Well, I've got a Tecra 510, but I haven't found an XServer other than VGA
> that works with the video in this thing  So, X isn't much of an
> option
> 
> Unless anyone else can help - I'd be much appreciative!  (Chipset is
> CL65550.)

Hi Kevin!

Check out:

   Jens Maurer's Linux on the Toshiba Tecra series
   http://www.cck.uni-kl.de/misc/tecra710/

While Jens owns a 710, the page discusses all of the Tecras.

Kirk Hilliard


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Re: Yamaha CDrecorder 400tx

1997-11-25 Thread Kirk Hilliard
On Nov 24, 11:31, Timothy Phan wrote:
>   I'd like to know has anyone here used the Yamaha CD Recorder 400tx
>   with Adaptec 2940 scsi control under Debian/Linux to record files
>   succesfully?
>
>   I've just purchased the recorder and try out the command:
> $ cdwrite --eject
>   and the kernel/Adaptec driver kept printing out of a lot of message
>   concerning the timeout on the CDrecorder device.

Hi Timothy!

Use cdrecord, not cdwrite (which I understand is very out of date).  I
have only done simple things, such as recording images made with
mkisofs, but cdrecord has worked with my Yamaha CDR400tx.
Unfortunately, last I looked, the only Debian cdrecord package was in
hamm (unstable), so I grabbed the sources from
  http://www.fokus.gmd.de/nthp/employees/schilling/cdrecord.html
and built it myself without any problems.

Kirk Hilliard


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loadlin -- A20 gating failed (tecra/bo)

1997-10-26 Thread Kirk Hilliard
Hi!

I just installed Debian 1.3 on my Toshiba Tecra 730CDT (this is a
"fresh" installation, separate from my 1.2 installation) and I can't
seem to get it to boot using loadlin.  I used the 1997-06-20/tecra
rescue and modules disks, and both the rescue disk and the resulting
boot disk work fine, but when I try to boot from loadlin I get an "A20
gating failed" message and the computer locks up.  The vmlinuz that
loadlin is using is the same as both /boot/vmlinuz-2.0.29 and the boot
floppy's linux.  I know that there is a problem with Tecras and
bzimges, but that's what the "tecra" disks are for.  What is going on
here?  Loadlin works fine with rex's vmlinuz-2.0.27 tecra kernel.  (I
am using loadlin-1.6.)

Kirk Hilliard


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Re: cdwrite trouble: SENSE_ERROR

1997-10-22 Thread Kirk Hilliard
Thanks to all who offered help on getting my Yamaha CDR400tx (1.0d) CD
recorder working, especially to Nathan Norman who pointed me to
  http://www.shop.de/cgi-bin/winni/lsc.pl
where I discovered that cdwrite-2.0 does not support the CDR400tx but
that cdrecord-1.5 does.

There does not seem to be a Debian package for cdrecord (is someone
working on this?) so I built it from the source at
  ftp://ftp.fokus.gmd.de/pub/unix/cdrecord/cdrecord.tar.gz
and it works great!

I do seem to have a reliability issue with some fairly cheap green on
gold CDRs.  (US$4 ea @ qty 100 with a black label thermally printed on
them by a local company -- supposed to be Sony CDRs, but they were
totally blank before being printed).  The cdrom drives on a couple of
our UNIX boxes can't seem to reliably mount them if they are written
at 4X, but (so far, at least) they seem to be OK if written at 1X or
2X.  Does write speed affect the quality of the CDR?

Also, are gold on gold CDRs supposed to be better?  I found what I
think is a pretty good deal on some HP C4432A gold on gold CDRs at
CompUSA -- qty 25 for US$70 minus US$20 rebate (limit two on the
rebate).

Kirk Hilliard
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cdwrite trouble: SENSE_ERROR

1997-10-21 Thread Kirk Hilliard
Greetings,

I am having difficulty writing a CD using a Yamaha CDR400tx on a
Gateway2000 P5-90 (using a BusLogic B-958 SCSI card) running Debian
1.3.1 (cdwrite 2.0, mkisofs v1.11).  This same CD writer seems to work
on an NT machine.

The CD-Writing mini-Howto talked about using scsi devices such as
/dev/sg[a-h], but my box has /dev/sg[0-7].  The CD writer is SCSI ID
1, but is the only device on the chain, so I guessed /dev/sg0, and
that seems to be right since the following successfully ejects the CD:

# cdwrite -v --eject --device /dev/sg0
cdwrite 2.0
Manufacturer:  YAMAHA
Model: CDR400t
Revision:  1.0d
Using mode:Yamaha
Using speed:   2

But when I try to write a CD I get the following errors:

  # cdwrite -v --device /dev/sg0 UnixCD.iso
  cdwrite 2.0
  Track 01: data   26 Mb
  Manufacturer:  YAMAHA
  Model: CDR400t
  Revision:  1.0d
  Using mode:Yamaha
  Using speed:   2
  mode_select6#2 result 0, pack_id 12 sense 70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0A
00 00 00 00 26 02 00 00
  18 of 18 mode_select6#2 reply bytes: 00 00 00 00 31 02 00 10 59
   41 4D 41 48 41 20 20 43 44
  write_data_track result 0, pack_id 14 sense 70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0A
  00 00 00 00 20 00 00 00
  18 of 18 write_data_track reply bytes: 00 00 00 08 00 00 00 00 00
 00 08 00 48 41 20 20 43 44
  SENSE_ERROR iter 1: pipe_to_cd result 0, pack_id 15 sense
   70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0A
   00 00 00 00 20 00 00 00
  18 of 18 pipe_to_cd reply bytes: 00 00 00 08 00 00 00 00 00
   00 08 00 48 41 20 20 43 44
  SENSE_ERROR iter 2: pipe_to_cd result 0, pack_id 15 sense
   70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0A
   00 00 00 00 20 00 00 00

... and so on until I kill it.

Has anyone here seen this before?

TIA,
Kirk Hilliard
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Re: Maarten Boekhold et. al.

1997-09-30 Thread Kirk Hilliard
Oops.

Kirk "can't differentiate between Subject: and Cc:" Hilliard


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Maarten Boekhold , Manoj Srivastava , sanvila@ctv.es

1997-09-30 Thread Kirk Hilliard
Hi,

[Concerning a possible bug in flex-2.5.4]

For the example I gave, Manoj and Maarten suggest adding ``return 0''
to the action after the input() receives an EOF, and in this case it
would solve the problem, but I don't think that this should be
necessary and there are other situations where this would not work so
well.

I still think that there is a problem with flex-2.5.4, but this
discussion doesn't really belong on debian-user, so I will email my
objections to Manoj and Maarten (and anyone else who sends a request),
and then ask some questions on comp.lang.c before taking it to
gnu.utils.bug.  I'll post a note back here vindicating either
flex-2.5.4 or my suspicions when I figure it all out.

Kirk Hilliard


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Re: Possible flex-2.5.4 bug

1997-09-29 Thread Kirk Hilliard
Hi,

[In response to my post regarding a possible flex-2.5.4 bug]
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Each argument is scanned separately, with yy_scan_string. An
> end of file is generated, then, at the end of each string (each
> argument). There is no yywrap function defined.

Right.  My intention was not to wrap but to call yylex() thrice, thus
my use of "%option noyywrap".  I fear that the multiple calls in my
example may have obscured the problem.

> So, you call yylex thrice, on three separate, non-wrapped files. The
> second file (string, argument, whatever) does end inside a comment,
> and since there is no wrapping, the eof is final. The error is as
> you asked it to be reported.

Right, but the program (when build with flex-2.5.4) then dies inside
the yylex() call and the third argument is never processed.  To
clarify this, I have modified the example to print a message when
yylex() returns.  For variety, I have also added an explicit yywrap()
function (which always returns 1).  This time I provide single
arguments to the program to avoid the red herring of the multiple
yylex() calls.

In the example below, the program is run twice when built with
flex-2.5.2 and twice when built with flex-2.5.4, first with a
terminated comment and then with an unterminated comment.  Notice that
when built with flex-2.5.4, it dies immediately following the "input
in flex scanner failed" message (generated internally by the flex
skeleton) when given the unterminated comment.

Manoj, thanks for the quick response.  I receive a little grief at
work for my support of free software, especially from people who think
that an 800 phone number is necessary for support, but I feel that
commonly used free software typically has better support than most
commercial software.  This is not an emergency since I was able to
install flex-2.5.2 on our RS/6000 from the sources on my rex disk.  My
goal now is simply to report this bug.  I am still a little skeptical
of my own code since it is not doing anything obscure and flex-2.5.4
has been out for over a year now.  One thing which is clear is that my
program does what I expect it to with flex-2.5.2 but not with
flex-2.5.4.

Kirk Hilliard

--
~/flexbug $ flex --version
flex version 2.5.2
~/flexbug $ ./flex-2.5.4 --version
./flex-2.5.4 version 2.5.4
~/flexbug $ cat foo2.l
%array

%%
"<"  { int c;
   while ( (c = input()) != '>' && c != EOF )
 ;/* eat up text of comment */
   if ( c == EOF ) printf( "\n" "error: EOF in comment\n" );
 }
foo  printf("bar");
%%

void main(int argc, char **argv) {
  YY_BUFFER_STATE ybsInputBuffer;
  while(--argc) {
ybsInputBuffer = yy_scan_string(*++argv);
yylex();
printf( "\n" "yylex() done\n" );
yy_delete_buffer(ybsInputBuffer);
  }
} /* main */

int yywrap(void) {
  return 1;
} /* yywrap */
~/flexbug $ flex foo2.l
~/flexbug $ gcc lex.yy.c
~/flexbug $ ./a.out "foobell"
barbell
yylex() done
~/flexbug $ ./a.out "foobell"
barbell
yylex() done
~/flexbug $ echo "*** Here comes the bug. ***" > /dev/null
~/flexbug $ ./a.out "foo /dev/null
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Possible flex-2.5.4 bug

1997-09-28 Thread Kirk Hilliard
Hi all!

Here is a simple lexer which works with flex-2.5.2 but not with
flex-2.5.4.  Is this a bug in flex-2.5.4 or is 2.5.4 stricter,
revealing a bug in my code?

This simple lexer replaces "foo" with "bar" (just to do something) and
strips out comments delimited by '<' and '>'.  (In real life I am
looking for C-style comments, but single character delimiters yield a
simpler example.)  It works with flex-2.5.2 but with flex-2.5.4 it
blows up following the input() call which returns EOF.

There was a similar bug in flex-2.5.3, but the NEWS file that comes
with 2.5.4 says:


Changes between release 2.5.4 (11Sep96) and release 2.5.3:

- Fixed a bug introduced in 2.5.3 that blew it when a call
  to input() occurred at the end of an input file.
[snip to end]


I have Debian 1.2 installed, giving me flex-2.5.2.  I built flex-2.5.4
directly from the GNU package.  Could someone running bo or hamm
verify that this lexer breaks with the Debain flex-2.5.4 package, and
could someone who knows a little more than I do about flex tell me if
I am screwing something up.  If my code looks OK I will submit a bug
report.

(I discovered this problem on an RS/6000 where I have an immediate need
for a working flex.  I could not locate flex-2.5.2 on the net, but was
happy to find the source on the rex CD in my laptop.)

Kirk Hilliard


$ flex --version
flex version 2.5.2
$ ./flex-2.5.4 --version
./flex-2.5.4 version 2.5.4
$ cat foo.l
%array
%option noyywrap

%%
"<"  { int c;
   while ( (c = input()) != '>' && c != EOF )
 ;/* eat up text of comment */
   if ( c == EOF ) printf( "\n" "error: EOF in comment\n" );
 }
foo  printf("bar");
%%

void main(int argc, char **argv) {
  YY_BUFFER_STATE ybsInputBuffer;
  while(--argc) {
ybsInputBuffer = yy_scan_string(*++argv);
yylex();
yy_delete_buffer(ybsInputBuffer);
putchar('\n');
  }
} /* main */
$ flex foo.l
$ gcc lex.yy.c
$ ./a.out "foobar" "foobell"
barbar
bar
error: EOF in comment

barbell
$ ./flex-2.5.4 foo.l
$ gcc lex.yy.c
$ ./a.out "foobar" "foobell"
barbar
bar
error: EOF in comment
input in flex scanner failed
$



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Re: Netscape uses SOCKS host for local servers

1997-06-23 Thread Kirk Hilliard
> Subject: Re: Netscape uses SOCKS host for local servers
> Kirk Hilliard wrote:
>
> How do I get Netscape to not use a SOCKS host for machines in my local
> domain?
>
> I am running "Mozilla/3.01Gold (X11; I; Linux 2.0.27 i586)" on my
> Debian 1.2 box, which is on a network behind a (SOCKS 4) firewall.
> After I set "Options/Network Preferences/Proxies" to "Manual Proxy
> Configuration" and filled in the "SOCKS Host" field it had no problems
> getting through to the outside world.  However, it goes through the
> SOCKS host even to contact local http servers.  (This is a problem
> because the SOCKS host is in a different building to which I am
> connected with only 10Kbps pipe.)  I set the "No Proxy for" field to
> the local domain name but this had no effect.
>
> "Mozilla/3.0Gold (WinNT; 1)", similarly set up to use the SOCKS host,
> connects to local http servers directly, even without an entry in the
> "No Proxy for" field.

Jens B. Jorgensen replied:
> If the net you want to be local is, say, 192.168.2.0, (class-C) then
> in the "No Proxy for" field put '192.168.2.'. Get the idea?

Jens,

Thanks, for the help, but I have tried both this (with and without the
third dot) and putting the full four byte dotted IP address for the
server in the field, and it connects but still goes through the SOCKS
host.  Does this actually work for you?  (One way to find out is to
use a CGI script which prints out $REMOTE_HOST.)  If so, what version
of netscape are you using?

I have also tried the symbolic address both for the local net and for
the server, and all of the above followed by :80 (the port number),
all to no avail.  Any hints?

Kirk


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Netscape uses SOCKS host for local servers

1997-06-22 Thread Kirk Hilliard
How do I get Netscape to not use a SOCKS host for machines in my local
domain?

I am running "Mozilla/3.01Gold (X11; I; Linux 2.0.27 i586)" on my
Debian 1.2 box, which is on a network behind a (SOCKS 4) firewall.
After I set "Options/Network Preferences/Proxies" to "Manual Proxy
Configuration" and filled in the "SOCKS Host" field it had no problems
getting through to the outside world.  However, it goes through the
SOCKS host even to contact local http servers.  (This is a problem
because the SOCKS host is in a different building to which I am
connected with only 10Kbps pipe.)  I set the "No Proxy for" field to
the local domain name but this had no effect.

"Mozilla/3.0Gold (WinNT; 1)", similarly set up to use the SOCKS host,
connects to local http servers directly, even without an entry in the
"No Proxy for" field.

Kirk Hilliard


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Re: Latest rescue disk locks up Thinkpad

1997-05-17 Thread Kirk Hilliard
Dean Carpenter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I tried installing frozen on an IBM Thinkpad 760E last night - no
> success.  The rescue disk would boot, load root.bin then linix.bin?
> and lock up after a bunch of "loading dots".  Locked up tight - cold
> boot time.

The 1997-05-16/resc1440.bin rescue disk also fails to boot Toshiba
Tecras.  I recall some discussion recently that the Tecra patch was no
longer going to be applied because it was thought to interfere with
other computers.  This confused me because Sven Rudolph forwarded a
message to me in which he wrote (concerning the Tecra patch):

> > (I deleted the patch because I thought it became part of
> > 2.0.29. Supposedly I were wrong.)

and Herbert Xu replied:

> It is part of 2.0.30-1.  And 2.0.29 is now obsolete.

This raises the questions:

  - Has the Tecra patch become an integral official part of the newer
kernels, and what kernel is being used on the rescue disk?

  - Does the Tecra patch also help the Thinkpad problem or is it
unrelated?

  - Is there going to be a Tecra version of the rescue disk generally
available?

Dean, I could provide you a pair of (old) rescue disks, one with, and
one without the Tecra patch, if you want to experiment.

Kirk Hilliard


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Re: pointing device on Toshiba Satellite 110CS

1997-03-19 Thread Kirk Hilliard
On Mar 19,  8:38, Karsten Bolding wrote:

> On a Toshiba Satellite 110CS I would like to be able to use the
> pointing deviec situated on the keyboard instead of an external
> mouse attached to the serial port, which I want that to use for a
> modem. The info I'm after is the device and protocol to enter in
> XF86Setup.  I guess I have to recompile the kernel with the proper
> support?

Karsten,

The AccuPoint "eraser tip pointer thingy" (which I expected to hate,
but learned to love) on my Toshiba 730 is just a regular PS/2 mouse.
You can use
  Protocol "PS/2"
  Device "/dev/psaux"
in your "Pointer" Section.

I used to use gpm a lot back when I had a machine on which X was slow,
but now I rarely leave X.  Still, I want gpm available on those rare
occasions that I use the console, and the 2.0 kernels only allow one
user of /dev/psaux at a time, so I run gpm with
  gpm -m /dev/psaux -t ps2 -R
(`-R' setting up the repeater).  I then put
  Protocol "MouseSystems"
  Device "/dev/gpmdata"
in my XF86Config, and the mouse works great both in X and on the
console.  (I understand that gpm's `-M' switch will even allow you to
use two pointers simultaneously.)

You will, of course, want to add
 Emulate3Buttons
 Emulate3Timeout 50
to your XF86Config.  I find that I use mouse-2 in X much more than
mouse-3, so I run
  xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 3 2
to swap the two.  The one exception is that I use mouse-3 (WindowList)
against the fvwm2 background much more than I do mouse-2, so I added
  Mouse 2 R A WindowList
  Mouse 3 R A Menu Window-Ops
to my ~/.fvwm2/post.hook to swap those two.

Email me if you need more details.

Kirk Hilliard


Re: Is there a dictionary for abbreviations like "WTF"?

1997-02-19 Thread Kirk Hilliard
On Feb 18, Dr. Andreas Wehler wrote
>  I would like to resolve these many abbreviations today, as 

>  So, is there any appropriate dictionary?  Thanks.

J. H. M. Dassen gave several URL's which should answer your questions,
but the start of your subject line reminded me of something else that
I am interested in -- a ``webster'' like dictionary that I could
install on my linux box.  I think that ``webster'' might come with
NeXT machines, but it has been available at every university at which
I have had a UNIX account, and I find myself telnetting into my
university account several times per day, specifically to make use of
it.  (Yes, I have a real paper and ink dictionary, and I usually
choose to use it when I am reading a book, but I want an online
dictionary when I am typing or reading mail.)  Several linux
dictionary options come to mind.


WWW -- I believe that there are www dictionary sites available, but I
want a dictionary installed on my machine that I can use whether or
not I am connected to the net.

Commercial UNIX dictionaries -- I recently saw a c.o.l.a article
announcing the availability of a ``webster''-like American Heritage
dictionary for linux, but the price was a bit steep.  (I think it was
$89 US for a single user license.)

DOS or Windows dictionary, converted for linux -- I would spend $20 -
$30 US for such a dictionary on CDROM if I could break the format of
the data file and write my own linux viewer for it.  (This would
probably be a violation of the letter of the license, but not the
spirit, as I would only use the "linux version" installed one single
user machine.)

GNU Free Dictionary project -- What ever happened to this?

Gutenberg Project dictionary -- I just noticed that the Gutenberg
Project released a 1919 Webster dictionary last year, both as an ASCII
flat file, and in html format.  That is a little old (necessitated by
copyright concerns) but it would serve nearly all my purposes (and add
some historical flavor to boot).  I believe that it is 40 MB
uncompressed, and I plan on downloading it shortly.  Has anyone else
had a look at it?  While an html version would be usable, I would
like to see a dictionary specific browser/viewer built for it.  It is
not appropriate to wrap up all the works of the Gutenberg Project as
debian packages, but it might be appropriate to do so with a dictionary
and thesaurus.  (They have also released a version of Roget's
Thesaurus.)  At the very least, a contrib package could be built
containing viewers (and possible even ``webster''-like client and
server) and including instructions for downloading the data files.  Is
any one else interested in this?

Kirk Hilliard


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Re: loadlin (was: CD-ROM -- how to mount, etc.)

1997-01-20 Thread Kirk Hilliard
On Jan 20,  9:23, "Seak, Teng-Fong" wrote:
> One question: is there the loadlin package provided in Debian?

Yes, Debian 1.2 contains a loadlin package with loadlin version 1.6.

Beware that the tools directory on a Debian 1.2 CDROM (or the ftp
site) contains loadlin 1.5 which cannot load bzImages.  I could not
find out who is responsible for this directory so I sent a note to
Christoph Lameter, the loadlin package maintainer, which he forwarded
on to Bruce.

Kirk Hilliard


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Re: Tecras and Debian 1.2

1997-01-15 Thread Kirk Hilliard
Concerning the Tecra bzImage boot patch, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
> What does this fix exactly? I have a server machine located at my
> service provider, which requires a keyboard; without one, it
> says "Loading Linux..." then waits forever until a keyboard
> is connected. Will this fix this?

Nope, I don't think so.  The Tecra problem is one of cache coherency
when the A20 is first enabled, and it causes the machine to reboot
after "Loading Linux...", returning you to "boot:".  The
kernel patch simply flushes the cache.  More details can be found at:
  http://www.cck.uni-kl.de/misc/tecra710/
and a temporary replacement rescue disk can be found at:
  http://www.math.virginia.edu/~kdh5j/debian/tecra730
The next set of boot disks will contain this kernel patch.

I think that your concern is a common one.  Perhaps other list members
will be able to help.

Kirk Hilliard


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Re: Tecras and Debian 1.2

1997-01-15 Thread Kirk Hilliard
On Jan 14,  3:20, Robert Nicholson wrote:
> Ok, I'm hearing that somebody has applied the a20 gate patch to the
> latest boot disk set is that right? 
> 
> Can we now expect to be able to install 1.2 on 700 series Tecras with
> this new disk set?

Dale Scheetz reported that the patch will be in the next set of boot
disks.  For those who can't wait, you can find a temporary replacement
rescue disk at:
  http://www.math.virginia.edu/~kdh5j/debian/tecra730

This problem (machine reboots after "Loading linux ") is
not just for Tecras anymore.  It was also reported by an owner of a
Compudyne Pentium 60 desktop, whose problems were solved with the
patched rescue disk.

> NOTE: for those who have been following this issue closely. Although
> _somehow_ I was able to get Linux on my notebook with the rex rescue
> disk for some reason _now_ it reboots like everybody else :-( So I'm
> looking for an update on this issue.

Welcome back into the fold of non-bzImage-booting Tecra 700 series
owners.  

Kirk Hilliard

Irreproducible events abound!


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Re: A proposal to improve dselect

1997-01-08 Thread Kirk Hilliard
Ian Jackson is listed as the maintainer of the dpkg package which
contains dselect.  I just sent him a short note letting him know that
there is a group of users who wish to help improve dselect, and asking
for his guidance.  If he is very busy, he may prefer not to be a
member of the dselect project mailing list, but instead keep in
contact with a single representative of the group.

I noticed from the Debian web page that he tops the list of
maintainers with 141 outstanding bugs.  I am certain that this is due
to his central role in the project and not due to any lack of effort.
Last year I read one of the mailing lists which he quite was active
on, and for several months I thought that he was the Ian in Debian.  I
still consider him "the other Ian in Debian."  It looks to me like he
could use some help.

I suggest that we await his response and guidance.


While checking out the Debian web page, I notice that there is a
debian-dpkg mailing list mentioned, but no archived messages are
available for it.  Does anyone know the story behind that.


Kirk Hilliard


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A proposal to improve dselect

1997-01-07 Thread Kirk Hilliard
in place, I propose that we form a
working group to initially hash out how dselect should be improved,
and then to actually implement those improvements.


Kirk Hilliard


Unix *is* user friendly -- it's just picky about who it makes friends
with.  Let's make dselect more sociable.


Is this the best venue to continue this discussion, or should it be
taken elsewhere?  Does debian-talk still exist?


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Tecra Rescue Disk

1997-01-05 Thread Kirk Hilliard
With some help from Martin Stromberg I have built a temporary
replacement rescue disk for Toshiba Tecra 700 series laptops.  (They
cannot boot a normal bzImage loaded by lilo.)  It has the same generic
2.0.27 kernel as in the 1996-12-8 resq1440.bin rescue disk, but with
Jens Maurer's kernel patch.  This should help out until the new boot
disks arrive.

You can find my resq144t.bin at
http://www.math.virginia.edu/~kdh5j/debian/tecra730

Kirk Hilliard


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Re: rescue disks for a tecra

1997-01-03 Thread Kirk Hilliard
I must admit that only my second thought when I read Bruce's note was
for his family's and his property's safety, my first being, "Oh no!
There goes the new boot disks."

The problem is that on Tecra 710/720/730 laptops (I don't know about
the 500 series) lilo cannot load a bzImage.  With the rescue disk, you
get "Loading root.bin " and "Loading linux ",
and then the laptop reboots and gives the "boot:" prompt again.
Loadlin (version 1.6), however, does not have a problem with bzImages.

It has been reported that the Tecra 710/720 BIOS upgrade (720V580.EXE
of 12-06-96) fixes this.  The Tecra 730 BIOS upgrade (730V530.EXE also
of 12-06-96) does not.  I contacted Toshiba about this, and the
Technical representative that I spoke with was very friendly, but I
have not heard back from them yet.  The BIOS upgrades are available at
http://www.toshiba.com/tais/csd/support/files/.

At http://www.cck.uni-kl.de/misc/tecra710/, Jens Maurer discusses the
problem and gives a kernel patch which works around it, a patch which
Bruce was going to incorporate it into the next set of boot disks.  I
would try it myself as a service to other Tecra owners if I knew what
went into the boot disks (possible just the rescue disk).  Can any of
the developers out there help?

Debian 1.2 was going to be an initial installation on my machine, but
due to the problem, I had to install 1.1 first and then upgrade.  (PHT
Linux Monthly CDs finally had a use!)  I made a minimal installation
from the 1.1 CD, but for the service of those who only have a 1.2 CD,
I could test to see what the absolute minimum of 1.1 is necessary.
Perhaps it is possible to use only the 1.1 floppies, and then use the
1.2 CD when dselect is first run.  I doubt that it would be possible
to use the 1.1 boot and root disks, and then substitute the 1.2 base
disks, but I could try.

Once you have a working system, you can make it bootable with the new
bzImage via loadlin, but make sure that you use loadlin version 1.6
which is in the Debian 1.2 loadlin package, not loadlin version 1.5
which is in the /tools directory and can't handle bzImages at all
(nothing to do with Tecras).  (I have notified the loadlin maintainer
about this, but he was not sure who maintained /tools, so he past the
note on to Bruce.  I notice that ftp.debian.org still has loadlin
version 1.5.)  The alternative to using loadlin, of course, is
building a kernel with the patch.

Richard G. Roberto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The new kernel doesn't boot and the old kernel has been overwritten.
> This was a 1.1 upgraded, so I don't even have an older working set
> of 1.2 floppies.

Richard,

If you have a 710/720, I recommend the BIOS upgrade.  If you have a
730, you need to boot your system somehow.  If you could get a copy of
the 1.1 boot and root disks, you could mount your system and then grab
your new kernel for use with loadlin.  Unfortunately, buzz seems to
have disappeared from ftp.debian.org.  Alternatively, I could send you
a vmlinuz and loadlin.exe (657183 and 32208 bytes).  Can you uudecode?
If not, what other options are there for email binary transfer?  I
could try to get a minimal web site up tonight as an alternative.  I
don't have access to outgoing ftp, but a link to a binary should be
downloadable over the web.

Kirk Hilliard


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Re: Debian 1.2 rescue disk reboots Toshiba Tecra laptop

1996-12-26 Thread Kirk Hilliard
Greetings!

History: Toshiba Tecra laptops (at least the 710, 720, and 730)
 can't boot the bzImage rescue disk.

I mailed a patch (from http://www.cck.uni-kl.de/misc/tecra710/) to
Bruce and this problem might be fixed on the next set of boot disks.

I got Debian 1.2 up on my Tecra 730 by first installing Debian 1.1 and
then upgrading to 1.2, setting the machine to boot from loadlin.


Note that the loadlin in the tools directory is version 1.5 which does
not load bzImages.  The loadlin package contains version 1.6 which
has no problems with bzImages.


Is someone maintaining a list of 1.2 glitches and simple fixes a la
mode de Scott Barker's "SimpleFixes for Slackware Linux"?


I am very impressed with Debian 1.2  Congratulations!


Thanks,
Kirk Hilliard


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Debian 1.2 rescue disk reboots Toshiba Tecra laptop

1996-12-25 Thread Kirk Hilliard
Greetings!

I have a Debian 1.2 CD from iConnect.  When I boot my Toshiba Tecra
730CDT laptop from the rescue floppy (either resq1440.bin or the new
new-resq1440.bin) I get "Loading root.bin " and "Loading
linux ", and then the laptop reboots from the floopy,
giving me the "boot:" prompt again.

At http://www.cck.uni-kl.de/misc/tecra710/, Jens Maurer reports that
his Tecra Laptop cannot load "bzImage" format kernels.  (He has
submitted a kernel patch for this.)  Does the rescue floppy use a
bzImage kernel?

I do have a Debian 1.1.11 CD (PHT Nov 96 Monthly Archive), and I can
boot from its installation boot and root disks.

Will I be able to get a Debian 1.2 rescue floppy for this laptop?  If
not, I can install 1.1 and then upgrade to 1.2.  Is it possible to
shift to 1.2 part way through the installation, either by providing
the 1.2 base disks or by substituting the 1.2 CD when I reboot, or do
I need to run dselect on 1.1 before shift to the 1.2 upgrade?

This problem does not affect loadlin.

Thanks,
Kirk Hilliard

P.S.  Is someone maintaining a list of 1.2 glitches and simple fixes?


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