Whatzit.
The whatzit won't let me login to the computer remotely using the debian login, although the whozit on the other website said that it should be thus configured. The howzit sez it should be working just fine, and the Debian machine can see our Windows machines, and our Windows machines our Debian machine, but we can't log in to the Debian machine. The thingamajig that attempts to connect to the Debian machine asks us for usernames and passwords when we try to connect. I get that. That's supposed to be normal. I think. We put in the Debian Username and password and press enter, and the thingamajig on Windows changes the login to ComputerName\DebianLogin and just keeps asking over and over for us to tell it that stuff. Furthermore, I have a suspicion that the whatzit, which is supposed to be the file server app for Debian, won't allow us to work with the Debian machine as intended. Specifically, there is more than one person who should have read-write access to the archives on the Debian machine at any given time, but it seems to want to lump all of us in to our own little directories on the Debian machine, thus defeating the purpose of a shared file archive on the Debian machine! Perhaps ya'll can tell me the wherezat I have to use and and the doodads I have to fix to get the whatzit working again. I am being totally serious about this. It's not my fault that in my frustration I fergot all the technical terms and caused you to spray your drink all over your monitor! Lynn _ Windows Live™ Hotmail®:…more than just e-mail. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_more_042009
RE: Whatzit.
It's Samba! Samba's what's not working! Help! Lynn From: phile...@hotmail.com To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Whatzit. Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 04:46:50 -0400 The whatzit won't let me login to the computer remotely using the debian login, although the whozit on the other website said that it should be thus configured. The howzit sez it should be working just fine, and the Debian machine can see our Windows machines, and our Windows machines our Debian machine, but we can't log in to the Debian machine. The thingamajig that attempts to connect to the Debian machine asks us for usernames and passwords when we try to connect. I get that. That's supposed to be normal. I think. We put in the Debian Username and password and press enter, and the thingamajig on Windows changes the login to ComputerName\DebianLogin and just keeps asking over and over for us to tell it that stuff. Furthermore, I have a suspicion that the whatzit, which is supposed to be the file server app for Debian, won't allow us to work with the Debian machine as intended. Specifically, there is more than one person who should have read-write access to the archives on the Debian machine at any given time, but it seems to want to lump all of us in to our own little directories on the Debian machine, thus defeating the purpose of a shared file archive on the Debian machine! Perhaps ya'll can tell me the wherezat I have to use and and the doodads I have to fix to get the whatzit working again. I am being totally serious about this. It's not my fault that in my frustration I fergot all the technical terms and caused you to spray your drink all over your monitor! Lynn Windows Live™ Hotmail®:…more than just e-mail. Check it out. _ Rediscover Hotmail®: Now available on your iPhone or BlackBerry http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Mobile2_042009
Samba
Okaaayy I went through several tutorials, now. The smb.conf file has been rewritten about a hundred times, with about ten thousand different variations from about a million different websites. And I still can't log in from the client computers. Now what? Lynn _ Windows Live™ SkyDrive™: Get 25 GB of free online storage. http://windowslive.com/online/skydrive?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_skydrive_042009
RE: Samba
As far as I can tell, there are no errors. Is there like a log or something somewhere that I can look at? And if I find it, and there are no errors, then what? Lynn Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 11:21:14 +0100 From: st...@steve.org.uk To: phile...@hotmail.com CC: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Samba On Thu Apr 23, 2009 at 05:38:30 -0400, Lynn Kilroy wrote: And I still can't log in from the client computers. Now what? Read the documentation available, and examine the errors which are logged by samba. Increase debugging levels until they show up. Samba is mostly simple to setup, but you cannot expect to just copy and paste a configuration file from a tuturial with no understanding .. Steve -- _ Rediscover Hotmail®: Now available on your iPhone or BlackBerry http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Mobile2_042009
RE: Samba
are # members of. ; write list = root, @ntadmin # A sample share for sharing your CD-ROM with others. ;[cdrom] ; comment = Samba server's CD-ROM ; writable = no ; locking = no ; path = /cdrom ; public = yes # The next two parameters show how to auto-mount a CD-ROM when the # cdrom share is accesed. For this to work /etc/fstab must contain # an entry like this: # # /dev/scd0 /cdrom iso9660 defaults,noauto,ro,user 0 0 # # The CD-ROM gets unmounted automatically after the connection to the # # If you don't want to use auto-mounting/unmounting make sure the CD # is mounted on /cdrom # ; preexec = /bin/mount /cdrom ; postexec = /bin/umount /cdrom Logfile is actually missing. I just looked for it. Unless it's hidden or soemthing, which makes no sense at all. If there were errors, there would be a log file, correct? And since there is no log file, we can assume there are no errors. This is the configuration file. I copied it TO my Windows PC, and I can recover it FROM the Windows PC. This means that the Windows PC and the Linux machine can communicate. However, I can not log on to the Linux machine from the Windows PC. I have repeatedly indicated this is the problem, and there is as much detail as I am aware of that's going on. Okay, granted, I don't know C, and from the arrogance of most C programmers I've met, I don't think I want to learn it. I mean, one shining example of your arrogance is that you guys keep making great defragglers, but forget one basic feature. It's called defragmenting large files. You see, you can't defrag a large file without having a large contiguous block of space free for it. But to get that, you have to, supposedly, fragment all other files. Oddly, tweny years ago, Norton SpeeDisk didn't do this. But today, nobody can seem to figger out how it did it. So here you have it. There are NO errors from Samba. Samba sez everything is hunky dory. Here is configuration file being used. I've tried tweaking it, according to everything I can find. I don't have much understanding of what's going on, what with all your tech talk in the how-tos without any real explaination of anything. For cripes sake! I think I ought to make you all get some sleazies and slinkies and you need to get some dripping and waxing and press your asses against the wall you're so arrogant, sometimes! And believe me, there was a time when I understood GCOS MOD 6 pretty darned good. Unfortunately, even if I had a complete understanding of GCOS MOD 6, it wouldn't do me any good today, or any other day for that matter. Any more than knowing how to clean reel-to-reel tapes in preparation for data backups does me any good! One last thing: There is no manual page for smb.config. You need to create a space hog file in your root directory called -rf. Then unlink it. Lynn Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 11:33:09 +0100 From: s...@debian.org To: phile...@hotmail.com CC: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Samba On Thu Apr 23, 2009 at 06:23:11 -0400, Lynn Kilroy wrote: As far as I can tell, there are no errors. Is there like a log or something somewhere that I can look at? And if I find it, and there are no errors, then what? You specify the logfile to use in the samba configuration file. e.g. log file = /var/log/samba.%s log level = all Still having just read your previous posts from earlier in the day I think that I'm not going to be able to help you. You can help yourself by reading man smb.conf. Saying it doesn't work is unlikely to result in successful assistance without more details. Steve -- _ Windows Live™ Hotmail®:…more than just e-mail. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_more_042009
File Server
I imagine this question has been answered lots of times, but I'll be dumb and ask it again. I am setting up a Debian computer and hope to use it primarily as a file server. This is for a network, and all the computers network together through an ISDN router modem thingy. We have two Windows XP Professional Edition computers able to pass files back and forth through this network. How would I set up the Linux box so it can be seen on this network? How easy will it be to access the files on the computer, or for the windows machines to write to it? What will I need to do with the Windows machines to simplify this, if anything at all? My goal is to use the linux machine as a rather expensive external hard disk drive. We evidently had some bad drives, and now we have a good one, and rather than try to move everything off this machine, and put Windows and all the programs I want to run on the new one, I feel it will be simpler if I just park all the files off these computers on to the linux machine for backup. Also, some files will likely be saved to and worked on directly from the Debian machine. There are two computers that we want to be able to access this machines files in this way. Thanks for any information you can give me, even if they're just links to how-tos. :-) Phileksa _ Rediscover Hotmail®: Get quick friend updates right in your inbox. http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Updates2_042009
Re: Replying to list
I am going to be a little nasty on this one, fellas, by breaking all your
perfectly held and highly valued netiquette.
First, I hit Replay All, as per the suggestion in the article.
Second, I am replying without bothering to take the time necessary to edit
or adjust any of the content of the e-mail or to go to the bottom of the
e-mail while cleaning up the top.
I use MSN Hotmail. Seems MSN Hotmail doesn't work quite the same way your
cludgy e-mail clients {oft mentioned in your article} do.
Furthermore, most common users {people who use MSN Hotmail} don't bottom
post because MSN Hotmail {and Yahoo! for that matter} both are setup for top
posting - like this one.
What else? Oh! I replied all. Goodies. I hope you like recieving two
copies of this for your arrogance.
When it comes to making things, we have to ways to do it. We can make them
easy, or not.
I can design a great wordprocessor. WordPerfect {the old console version}
comes to mind, versus Works {the old console version}. WordPerfect had you
learning a new programming language, but it did what it did very well.
Works had this alien new concept, A Fully Functional Menu Bar, which allowed
you to do everything WordPerfect did, only without the fancy programming
language.
Last time I looked, WordPerfect went down the toilet.
There is a legacy of WordPerfect out there still, and I have no idea why it
survives.
[Ctrl]+[C] and [Ctrl]+[P].
In WordPerfect, [Ctrl]+[C] and [Ctrl]+[P] were Cut and Paste,
respectively. Later, it was observed that different programs handled
[Ctrl]+[C] differently. Some were Cut, others were Copy. In one
program I use, it seems to oscillate between Cut and Copy, and this
program was released less then a week ago!
To eliminate this confusion, a company {called Micro$oft, when it still
cared about true ease of use} create [Ctrl]+[Ins], [Shift]+[Ins], and
[Shift]+[Del], which means, respectively, Copy, Paste, and Cut. This made
things *much* easier because each function had it's own key combination that
could remain the same if everyone only would use them.
For a while, people did, but someone came along and said Why do it
MicroShaft's way? and returned to the old confusing way. It's like the old
modem communications protocol that everyone agreed was junk. It should have
been tossed, but nobody tossed it.
The MicroShaft way, in this instance, works, and nobody does it, so there's
still a lot of confusion about cut and copy functions, and I find myself
leary of pressing [Ctrl]+[C] becuase I do not know if it will cut or copy.
So, what does this have to do with e-mail?
Well, most e-mailers *I've* seen, which are the typical, consumer models,
not the high end uber geeky programmer models that a lot of the arrogant
S.O.B. Linux Users with Uber Cool Towers Of Power stuffed with Twenty
Thousand Blade Servers All Programmed Myself use, are all very simple.
Reply All isn't considered polite, Reply To doesn't send it back to the
group, and most Consumers don't want to waste the time cleaning up their
e-mails.
I hope you enjoyed all my Consumer Violations of your precious nettiquette.
Now that you have screamed bloody murder, perhaps you would reconsider the
Reply To: line.
I know! Anyone who * * * D O E S N ' T * * * want to get a reply to their
personal inbox {not off the group} could kindly * * * C H A N G E * * *
Reply-To for us! If you have to do it manually {as those of us with
consumer model clients must do} I'm sure your opinions will change PDQ!
Love Friendship Blessed Be!
Lynn Erika Kilroy
From: Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Replying to list
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 08:09:51 -0500
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If it's not an FAQ, why doesn't this list use the Reply-to
field in the address headers?
http://www.google.com/search?q=munge+reply-to
http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html
A couple of times recently I've hit Reply and sent a response to
the originator, rather than the list - for which I apologise. All
other - non-Debian - lists to which I subscribe use this field
and it enables one to concentrate on the message, rather than the
postman:-)
Competent MUAs (like Mutt/elm and Evolution) have a Reply-to-List
command.
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For example, it is common sense to white-power racists that
whites are superior to blacks, and that those with brown skins
are mud people.
However, that common sense is obviously wrong.
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RE: does this /etc/apt/sources.list look okay?
From: Default User [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello. This is my /etc/apt/sources.list file: #deb file:///cdrom/ sarge main deb ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/ stable main deb-src ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/ stable main deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main That was created by Debian Stable after a fresh install. It seems rather sparse. After past installs of earlier versions the file had more entries, iirc. Also, I don't seem to be getting any updates after running: sudo apt-get check sudo apt-get clean sudo apt get update sudo apt-get upgrade sudo apt-get dist-upgrade Am I missing some important or at least useful entries? Thanks for any input. I wonder if my etc/apt/sources.list is okay? It has nothing in it. Is it missing anything? Also, what does it need to install X and a browser, so I can work on figuring stuff out off the web while I'm trying to install stuff? Right now, the best I can do is copy stuff by writing down it's contents, restarting to Windows, then typing it all again. Love Friendship Blessed Be! Lynn Erika Kilroy _ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Question not addressed in FAQ.
From: Kent West Lynn Kilroy wrote: Are you guys like cleaning up the easy way of donig net installs now or something? And is it safe to assume that all Debian Dists have the same basic file sets? In other words, for every file that was mentioned in the prior e-mail, is there file that would be reachable by simply replacing Potato with Sarge? Not entirely sure what you're asking. Concerning loadlin, I believe Sarge doesn't work with it, because Sarge uses initrd kernels by default I think, and loadlin can't handle that. Once you have a base install of Potato, you can change your /etc/apt/sources.list file to point to Sarge (or stable, testing, sid, unstable, EXCEPT for the security line, which needs to be left at stable) and then upgrade the box with: aptitude update aptitude dist-upgrade (If Potato doesn't have aptitude, substitute apt-get, then install aptitude and use it in the future - just my recommendation - not essential.) -- Kent Can I avoid a lot of problems with Sarge by putting the CD Image on a hard drive and booting it from there? Is it even possible to use a CD Image from a Hard Drive to install Debian? The ftp site for potato has a habit of playing Peekaboo!, in that it's there for a few minutes then it vanishes. Are there two ftp.us.debian.org's, and if so, am I getting the one with debian-archives intermittently? If this is the case, how can I get the sight with debian-archives more consistently, to finish installing potato, or will sarge install over potato if I point to sarge? I will try to have sarge try to install in the place of the rest of potato, but I don't know how well this will work. It seems to me a wonder I found potato in the first place! :-) Love Friendhip Blessed Be! Lynn Erika Kilroy _ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Question not addressed in FAQ.
From: Lynn Kilroy From: Kent West Lynn Kilroy wrote: Are you guys like cleaning up the easy way of donig net installs now or something? And is it safe to assume that all Debian Dists have the same basic file sets? In other words, for every file that was mentioned in the prior e-mail, is there file that would be reachable by simply replacing Potato with Sarge? Not entirely sure what you're asking. Concerning loadlin, I believe Sarge doesn't work with it, because Sarge uses initrd kernels by default I think, and loadlin can't handle that. Once you have a base install of Potato, you can change your /etc/apt/sources.list file to point to Sarge (or stable, testing, sid, unstable, EXCEPT for the security line, which needs to be left at stable) and then upgrade the box with: aptitude update aptitude dist-upgrade (If Potato doesn't have aptitude, substitute apt-get, then install aptitude and use it in the future - just my recommendation - not essential.) -- Kent Can I avoid a lot of problems with Sarge by putting the CD Image on a hard drive and booting it from there? Is it even possible to use a CD Image from a Hard Drive to install Debian? The ftp site for potato has a habit of playing Peekaboo!, in that it's there for a few minutes then it vanishes. Are there two ftp.us.debian.org's, and if so, am I getting the one with debian-archives intermittently? If this is the case, how can I get the sight with debian-archives more consistently, to finish installing potato, or will sarge install over potato if I point to sarge? I will try to have sarge try to install in the place of the rest of potato, but I don't know how well this will work. It seems to me a wonder I found potato in the first place! :-) Love Friendhip Blessed Be! Lynn Erika Kilroy Okay. The potato finished installing after pointing apt-get to the Sarge Distro. Which seems kinda' odd, but I hope makes perfect sense for linux. I did not try to use aptitude - maybe I should - but anyway, apt-get dist-upgrade responded by saying there were no updates available. I had to point it at /debian/dists/sarge to get it to finish installing at all, so could I now have a sarge box instead of a potato box? If so, where to from here? Love Friendship Blessed Be! Lynn Erika Kilroy _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Question not addressed in FAQ.
From: Raquel Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 18 Jun 2006 15:32:22 +
Lynn Kilroy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What files from the mirror site will I need if I want to install
Debian without making or purchasing some kind of removeable
media?
Also, what will the LoadLin Command Line look like to get Debian
started on a network install?
Love Friendship Blessed Be!
Lynn Erika Kilroy
Check out: http://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst
I have done several network installs using the 4 floppy images. It
works very easily.
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Ummm ... No Floppy Drive, and, although we have a working drive {What a
Relic!}, we have no diskettes for it.
Before anyone mentions burning CD's {or perhaps after} I do not have a CD
Burner.
I have a perfectly good Win98SE Partition that boots great to DOS. I have
LoadLin. Now all I need are the correct files to work with LoadLin to get
it to start.
I have a file called linux, apparently the kernel itself. I have a file,
initrd, which appears to be the initial ramdisk, and there's another file,
called default, which appears to be a settings file for getting started.
When I loadlin linux initrd=initrd default, it says that the file is not in
the correct format and halts.
What files do I need, and where can I get them?
Love Friendship Blessed Be!
Lynn Erika Kilroy
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Re: Question not addressed in FAQ.
From: Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sun, Jun 18, 2006 at 03:32:22PM +, Lynn Kilroy wrote: What files from the mirror site will I need if I want to install Debian without making or purchasing some kind of removeable media? Also, what will the LoadLin Command Line look like to get Debian started on a network install? What version of Debian are you talking about? Not just what version number, but what platform? Does 3.x even support loadlin? I haven't used it in years. -- I am attempting to install Sarge, the stable version. I do not want to attempt to install anything unstable. I'm pretty much a set it and forget kinda' gal. Love Friendship Blessed Be! Lynn Erika Kilroy _ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Question not addressed in FAQ.
From: s. keeling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Question not addressed in FAQ. Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 00:10:19 GMT Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sun, Jun 18, 2006 at 03:32:22PM +, Lynn Kilroy wrote: What files from the mirror site will I need if I want to install Debian without making or purchasing some kind of removeable media? Also, what will the LoadLin Command Line look like to get Debian started on a network install? What version of Debian are you talking about? Not just what version number, but what platform? Does 3.x even support loadlin? I haven't used it in years. Sorry for the Me too!-ish post, but I too see no reason for loadlin. I've never needed / wanted to use it. netinst is about 107 Mb. If you can't manage that, go the floppy route as suggested, though be careful there; floppies are notoriously unreliable media. Oh! Off Topic: Please note Reply-To is not the list. Back to Topic: I have no CD Burner, so please excuse me for having legacy equipment off a P100 and P233 on a brand new AMD 1.4GHz PC. This system is still being worked on. Oddly enough, we own six hard disk drives, five 200GB drives, and one 160GB Drive. We have no floppy diskettes. We pretty much store all our surplus data on spare hard drives. I mean, with like, six of them, why not? We have no use for a CD Burner. What's 600 MB to a spare 280GB for each of us, not including the dual internal drives we have installed all the time? I'd rather not purchase a CD and wait two weeks to a month, while running the rist that the CD's May Get Stolen. The Floppy Image can be downloaded and the OS installed via a Network. Why can't I just D/L the files off the floppy image, and use them, along with LoadLin, to boot to Linux, then let Linux install them? I have a dual boot already, and there's no reason at all for Linux to share the same 200GB Hard Drive with Win98SE and Win XP Pro. Love Friendship Blessed Be! Lynn Erika Kilroy _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing Debian
From: Lynn Kilroy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: s. keeling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Question not addressed in FAQ.
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 00:10:19 GMT
Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Sun, Jun 18, 2006 at 03:32:22PM +, Lynn Kilroy wrote:
What files from the mirror site will I need if I want to install
Debian
without making or purchasing some kind of removeable media?
Also, what will the LoadLin Command Line look like to get Debian
started on
a network install?
What version of Debian are you talking about? Not just what version
number,
but what platform?
Does 3.x even support loadlin? I haven't used it in years.
Sorry for the Me too!-ish post, but I too see no reason for loadlin.
I've never needed / wanted to use it. netinst is about 107 Mb. If
you can't manage that, go the floppy route as suggested, though be
careful there; floppies are notoriously unreliable media.
Oh! Off Topic: Please note Reply-To is not the list.
Back to Topic: I have no CD Burner, so please excuse me for having legacy
equipment off a P100 and P233 on a brand new AMD 1.4GHz PC. This system is
still being worked on. Oddly enough, we own six hard disk drives, five
200GB drives, and one 160GB Drive.
We have no floppy diskettes. We pretty much store all our surplus data on
spare hard drives. I mean, with like, six of them, why not?
We have no use for a CD Burner. What's 600 MB to a spare 280GB for each of
us, not including the dual internal drives we have installed all the time?
I'd rather not purchase a CD and wait two weeks to a month, while running
the rist that the CD's May Get Stolen.
The Floppy Image can be downloaded and the OS installed via a Network. Why
can't I just D/L the files off the floppy image, and use them, along with
LoadLin, to boot to Linux, then let Linux install them? I have a dual boot
already, and there's no reason at all for Linux to share the same 200GB
Hard Drive with Win98SE and Win XP Pro.
Love Friendship Blessed Be!
Lynn Erika Kilroy
Okay.
I got the net install CD.
I extracted the files.
I used LoadLin to start it, and it reported something about a file not
missing, and asking me to specify a valid root.
It then stopped responding.
I will try moving the files so LoadLin and the Install Files are all in the
same folder.
I can not boot to the CD, obviously, because there *is* no CD. LoadLin is
the only way I have to do this.
No CD Burner, which is why the CD had to be extracted the hard way to DOS.
Any advice or information anyone can provide will be greatly appreciated.
But it does seem oddly clear that although a lot of people here don't have
SL compliant video cards, you all *do* have certain equipment that I don't
have, and you are all assuming that I should be able to do as you do.
It's also pretty clear that anyone who has a Windows system here has a
conventional Windows System, so mine would be pretty fucking * * * W E I R D
* * * to most of you to begin with.
Windows 98 Second Edition has a great defragmenter. To use it, you need
FAT32. NTFS is unintelligible garbage to Win98SE. Consequently, Windows XP
Professional is on a FAT32 Partition.
What's more, Windows XP Professional does not like using Windows 98 Second
Edition Tools. As a result, we have a dual boot Windows computer, so we can
use one Windows to perform maintenance tasks on the other.
Since we're dual boot, anyway, adding a third operating system - Debian
Linux - won't be a problem. I even have a spare hard drive available to
this task.
According to the documents, the image I have is Sarge Stable.
Now that I have the CD and it's files are extracted and I have LoadLin which
will start it, I need to know how to setup LoadLin so it will launch the
Debian Installer {as again I say, booting to this CD is clearly out of the
question since it's a bunch of files in a directory on my hard disk drive}.
Oh, and it's a PC with two different flavors of Windows on it already. Last
I knew, that meant only one real architecture, and only one real version of
Linux. Perhaps I'm slightly mistaken here ... ? After all, the last time I
played with Debian was in, oh, I dunno ... 1996?
Love Friendship Blessed Be!
Lynn Erika Kilroy
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Re: Question not addressed in FAQ.
From: Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Question not addressed in FAQ.
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 08:05:45 -0500
Lynn Kilroy wrote:
From: Raquel Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 18 Jun 2006 15:32:22 +
Lynn Kilroy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What files from the mirror site will I need if I want to install
Debian without making or purchasing some kind of removeable
media?
http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s05.html.en
Very helpful. May I remind people that even the best non-destructive
partitioning tools can damage the partition tables such that my maintenance
OS will not boot?
Also, Win XP Pro probably wouldn't like it too much, either.
Finally, there's an almost brand new, 200GB hard drive waiting for Linux.
Partitioning it *now* will take over two hours, as I would want to break it
up nice and neat with FDisk. Anyone unfamiliar with FDisk {probably most
everyone here} will need to note FDisk verifies the drive integrity each
time you try to make a small change on the drive.
Granted, Debian probably has a better utility, and it probably works *much*
faster, but to use it, I rather believe you will need to at least have the
installer loaded.
LoadLin would be great for that. :-)
Speaking of LoadLin, now the Kernel reports less than 4MB RAM, and halts the
system.
The exact message is: Less than 4MB of memory. --System Halted.
This is strange, because the computer has 1GB RAM installed.
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Re: Question not addressed in FAQ.
From: Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Kent West wrote: Kent West wrote: Lynn Kilroy wrote: What files from the mirror site will I need if I want to install Debian without making or purchasing some kind of removeable media? http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s05.html.en Ag! Sorry; that doesn't address booting from loadlin; never mind. Ah! Here we go. http://www.debian.org/releases/potato/i386/ch-rescue-boot.en.html#s-install-drive and http://www.debian.org/releases/potato/i386/ch-install-methods.en.html#s-rescue-images So, _probably_ what you want are: |http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/potato/main/disks-i386/current/images-1.44/idepci/rescue.bin | | http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/potato/main/disks-i386/current/images-1.44/compact/root.bin| |http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/potato/main/disks-i386/current/images-1.44/idepci/root.bin| |http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/potato/main/disks-i386/current/idepci/linux ||http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/potato/main/disks-i386/current/dosutils/loadlin.exe ||http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/potato/main/disks-i386/current/idepci/install.bat This last install.bat file you may need to edit to your particular setup; or you can just manually execute the correct line from that batch file. -- Kent Oooh ... now *this* looks promising! Thanks! Love Friendship Blessed Be! Lynn Erika Kilroy _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Question not addressed in FAQ.
From: Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Question not addressed in FAQ.
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 08:20:57 -0500
Kent West wrote:
Kent West wrote:
Lynn Kilroy wrote:
What files from the mirror site will I need if I want to install
Debian without making or purchasing some kind of removeable
media?
http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s05.html.en
Ag! Sorry; that doesn't address booting from loadlin; never mind.
Ah! Here we go.
http://www.debian.org/releases/potato/i386/ch-rescue-boot.en.html#s-install-drive
and
http://www.debian.org/releases/potato/i386/ch-install-methods.en.html#s-rescue-images
So, _probably_ what you want are:
|http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/potato/main/disks-i386/current/images-1.44/idepci/rescue.bin
|
|
http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/potato/main/disks-i386/current/images-1.44/compact/root.bin|
|http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/potato/main/disks-i386/current/images-1.44/idepci/root.bin|
|http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/potato/main/disks-i386/current/idepci/linux
||http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/potato/main/disks-i386/current/dosutils/loadlin.exe
||http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/potato/main/disks-i386/current/idepci/install.bat
This last install.bat file you may need to edit to your particular setup;
or you can just manually execute the correct line from that batch file.
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Kent
Sorry to double post, but for these specific files, the address begins with
ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian-archive/dists/potato/main
because Sarge supersedes Potato.
I looked through Sarge, and could not find analogous files, so I will use
Potato, instead.
Besides, I have a particular affection for Potato. :-)
Perhaps if this works, someone can walk this newbie through an upgrade to
Sarge. Of course, they would probably be twisting my ear and waggling their
finger at my nose as they did so. {Blushes}
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Re: Question not addressed in FAQ.
From: Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Question not addressed in FAQ. Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 10:14:44 -0400 Lynn, do you have USB flash drive? If your box will boot off that, I believe you can install that way. -- Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] No USB Flash drive, I'm sorry. The Potato Version had a really nice setup, though, and it installed nicely on my second drive, I think. Only thing is, I did not put LiLio on to the first drive, as I was afraid it would cause problems that I don't have backups for at the moment to fix easily. Not that it would be a big problem, but it took all day to migrate what I have on to the current four partition drive. :-) I am hoping to setup LoadLin to be able to start the Linux on my second hard drive. This will circumvent so many problems and headaches, while at the same time allowing me to have a dedicated linux drive. Or, barring that, I can alway tell BIOS to boot to hdb instead of hda. :-p Then use LiLo to redirect to hda, then go through the Windows partitions. Even better, I can swap a coupla' jumpers, so hdb becomes hda, and hda becomes hdb. Since I just installed potato without knowing much about Linux, perhaps you can give me some recommendations? The Linux Drive has LiLo on it already. :-) Love Friendship Blessed Be! Lynn Erika Kilroy _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Vnished FTP Files? {Was: Question not addressed in FAQ.}
From: Lynn Kilroy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Kent West wrote:
Kent West wrote:
Lynn Kilroy wrote:
What files from the mirror site will I need if I want to install
Debian without making or purchasing some kind of removeable
media?
http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s05.html.en
Ag! Sorry; that doesn't address booting from loadlin; never mind.
Ah! Here we go.
http://www.debian.org/releases/potato/i386/ch-rescue-boot.en.html#s-install-drive
and
http://www.debian.org/releases/potato/i386/ch-install-methods.en.html#s-rescue-images
So, _probably_ what you want are:
|http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/potato/main/disks-i386/current/images-1.44/idepci/rescue.bin
|
|
http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/potato/main/disks-i386/current/images-1.44/compact/root.bin|
|http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/potato/main/disks-i386/current/images-1.44/idepci/root.bin|
|http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/potato/main/disks-i386/current/idepci/linux
||http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/potato/main/disks-i386/current/dosutils/loadlin.exe
||http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/potato/main/disks-i386/current/idepci/install.bat
This last install.bat file you may need to edit to your particular
setup; or you can just manually execute the correct line from that batch
file.
--
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Sorry to double post, but for these specific files, the address begins with
ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian-archive/dists/potato/main
because Sarge supersedes Potato.
I looked through Sarge, and could not find analogous files, so I will use
Potato, instead.
Besides, I have a particular affection for Potato. :-)
Perhaps if this works, someone can walk this newbie through an upgrade to
Sarge. Of course, they would probably be twisting my ear and waggling
their finger at my nose as they did so. {Blushes}
Love Friendship Blessed Be!
Lynn Erika Kilroy
Hmmm. I can't seem to get in touch with either of these links, now. I know
the one was good when I did the install, and now I have a half installed
Potato Debian {all right, about five years out of date} on my machine.
I suppose I can look for the equivalant files for Sarge, however. :-)
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Re: Question not addressed in FAQ.
From: Alexander Sack [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, Jun 19, 2006 at 09:55:29AM +, Lynn Kilroy wrote:
We have no use for a CD Burner. What's 600 MB to a spare 280GB for each
of
A CD Burner is so cheap nowadays that you can buy it and throw it away.
... and you would have a use: Burning CDs to install debian without
wasting your time with archaic loadlin stuff.
If you still insist to not buy a burner, ask a fried to burn the netinstall
CD
for you. Why go the hard way if there is a simple way.
- Alexander
I would argue that, once I had it all together {which wasn't all that hard
once the information came available} it worked great. This was relatively
simple with no messy external media.
It even boots fine, now, except now it's looking for stuff that, for some
odd reason, seems to have vanished in the few hours that it took for me to
figure out how to get this far.
Are you guys like cleaning up the easy way of donig net installs now or
something? And is it safe to assume that all Debian Dists have the same
basic file sets?
In other words, for every file that was mentioned in the prior e-mail, is
there file that would be reachable by simply replacing Potato with
Sarge?
I will find out! {Giggles}
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Question not addressed in FAQ.
What files from the mirror site will I need if I want to install Debian without making or purchasing some kind of removeable media? Also, what will the LoadLin Command Line look like to get Debian started on a network install? Love Friendship Blessed Be! Lynn Erika Kilroy _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RAID Sizes (was Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?)
From: Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tuesday 18 April 2006 05:31, Willie Wonka wrote: Maybe I'm dense, but; kb = kilobit KB = KiloByte mb = megabit MB = MegaByte 1 bit * 8 = 1 byte 1 Byte / 8 = 1 bit That's right, except it's kb or kB (for kilobits and kilobytes respectively), never KB or Kb. k is kilo, K is Karat. If I sent any private comments in reply to anything on the group, my sincerest apologies. The Reply To address evidently isn't set to the list, and hotmail loves to ignore the list address. Apparently, this is not a problem with the mail clients everyone *else* are using. Not that the @hotmail.com would be any indicator of my inability to use them or anything. That said ... What will happen when you run out of capital and lower case letters to identify your jumble of units? I mean, I know there's a GG-1, but would this mean, like, GigaGiga? And what if I said Gg? Would that be Gigagram? I mean, I know english is kinda strange, with # and ' and and stuff, but in some ways, it kinda' makes sense to avoid using letters for units of measurement. I guess we could mix them, too, though. k#, M#, and G#. Hmmm. Now it looks like BASIC. Blech. Love Friendship Blessed Be! Lynn Erika Kilroy _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How do you grow brocolli?
From: Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 09:36 +0900, Miles Bader wrote: steef [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: frightening amounts of processed and fast food. And possibly worse, frightening *quantities* of it. The US obesity pandemic occasionally makes the news here in Europe. Alas, I think the UK may be heading steadily in the same direction. the trend here in holland is the same. The same thing seems to be happening in many countries; many other bad U.S. traits also seem to be gaining traction (e.g., insane car worship). I suppose in the end it really comes down to the fact that humans are, generally speaking, lazy and short-sighted, and virtuous cultural attributes tend to come from necessity rather than virtue. As soon as the need goes away (due to increased wealth or whatever)... Hah! We *are* taking over the world, one bad habit at a time. Now if we could only teach them our childish and immature fear of sex. After all, it's a horrid crime to even speak the word here at the wrong time, but we welcome people running wee children over in drunken wrecklessness with open arms. Love Friendship Blessed Be! Lynn Erika Kilroy _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How do you grow brocolli?
From: Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sun, 2006-04-16 at 08:23 +0200, steef wrote: snip but: i could tell you a lot about potatoes; especially the older very tasty potato-races from the dutch clay. ask me - offline - what you want to know about p.e. redstar, bildstar, irene etc.: you are wellcome. regards, steef Maybe I'm just hungry :) ..in that case grab what you can and fry them in olive-oil. prepared with some garlic. or just cook them and eat them with some salt and butter Velveeta. There's nothing like broccoli smothered in Velveeta. A little gravy base. A lot of water. Some milk. And your favorite flavor of shredded cheese. Yum! Love Friendship Blessed Be! Lynn Erika Kilroy _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ATTN: Barbara Oncay
-- From: Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sunday 16 April 2006 01:17, Lynn Kilroy wrote: It seems to me, that if your client removes everything below -- then that is a bug. Please correct me if I'm wrong? That's not a bug, but a feature one should be aware of. Ahh, but I wasn't aware of it, and I had never, prior to joining this group, heard of this convention. Total news to me. Don't mind me though. My first computer operating job was on a Honeywell DPS-6 running GCOS MOD 6 - a computer and OS designed around 1970. I don't have any real computer experience to speak of. Love Friendship Blessed Be! Lynn Erika Kilroy _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help with Hardware {Not Debian Specific} {Update}
From: Lynn Kilroy [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Matthew R. Dempsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sat, Apr 15, 2006 at 09:22:47AM +, Lynn Kilroy wrote: The drives are brand new. 160GB SATA RAID Drives, Western Digital Caviar Drives. When they get hot, they seem to shut down, and the OS, in it's efforts to work with the data on the now apparently disabled drives crashes. Both drives appear to be affected, as they both seem to get very hot to the touch. No other components seem to suffer these problems. It's really bizarre that you would have *two* brand new drives both experiencing these overheating issues. They're probably still under warranty, so maybe you should contact WD about it. I will contact them and see what they can tell me about the drives. I take it, then, most people don't have overheating problems with their drives? Love Friendship Blessed Be! Lynn Erika Kilroy I went to their website and found no information regarding overheating and this particular drive. I don't really want to give them a call, either. For now, I will guess that a part of the problem is the cabinet the drives were installed in was *really* *o*l*d*. I have ordered a new cabinet, and I will see if that helps. The older cabinet crammed the hard drives on top of each other. They pressed against each other like lustful lovers, and it is possible they couldn't get enough air. There certainly was no room for adding hard drive cooling fans or anything. The new cabinets have more space, and may be able to resolve this issue, just by giving the hard drives room to breathe. I may try messing with the SATA drives again, but as yet, I do not know when. I just hope they weren't ruined. Love Friendship Blessed Be! Lynn Erika Kilroy _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ATTN: Barbara Oncay
From: Steve Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Andrei Popescu wrote: But your message doesn't have it! Yes it does. Please stop spreading misinformation. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your PGP Key: 8B6E99C5 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+- signature.asc Doesn't appear in hotmail. Love Friendship Blessed Be! Lynn Erika Kilroy _ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SATA RAID 0 in Debian
From: Michael Schurter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Michael Schurter wrote: I've never worked with SATA RAID's in Debian (or Linux in general), so I'm sorry if this is a stupid question. Let me rephrase: how do I setup SATA RAID 0 in Debian? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] My SATA RAID controller seems to setup on it's own. It seems to have it's own CMOS and everything, that seperate from the BIOS CMOS of the computer. From the SATA RAID Controller CMOS, I can setup the type of RAID it is, and the SATA RAID controller apparently does the rest on it's own. Of course, this PC wasn't purchased with RAID's in mind, so it only has integrated IDE controllers. My SATA RAID controller is a seperate part. Your hardware may be different. Love Friendship Blessed Be! Lynn Erika Kilroy _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SATA RAID 0 in Debian
From: Michael Schurter [EMAIL PROTECTED] chris roddy wrote: Michael Schurter wrote: Let me rephrase: how do I setup SATA RAID 0 in Debian? Were these set up using a hardware RAID controller? You may need to plug them into a controller of the exact same model to get to the data. The on-disk format is frequently not interchangeable from one RAID controller to the next. Hm. This sounds bad as it was a builtin motherboard controller - Via maybe? Don't have it in front of me. I'm not even sure if it was a hardware or software RAID because Windows required drivers to see it, and (obviously) I never mounted it in Debian. This is a very humbling experience indeed... I suppose you could attempt to set up a Linux software RAID and present these drives to it. I wouldn't count on it working, though. The Software RAID Howto is a good place to start: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Software-RAID-HOWTO.html Thanks for the link! It seems a bit outdated (like so many HOWTOs), and I can't tell if any of the instructions would work for importing an existing array because of statements like the following: This should initialize the superblocks and start the raid device. (section 5.5) Basically, I want to be able to mount 2 NTFS formatted disks readonly as a RAID 0 array with 64kb chunks. Thanks, for the help! Michael Schurter -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] It seems strange to me that Windows would require drivers to see it. I mean, on this machine, the CMOS has to be configured to Boot to SCSI to use the RAID as it's primary drives. Whether or not it boots to them, Windows can see them - driver or no driver. Perhaps the RAIDs are different, somehow? What this RAID came with was software to allow you to reconfigure the RAID after startup. Useless piece of fluff, if you ask me. Love Friendship Blessed Be! Lynn Erika Kilroy _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ATTN: Barbara Oncay
From: Gene Heskett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: ATTN: Barbara Oncay Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 00:28:25 -0400 On Friday 14 April 2006 21:57, Ken Irving wrote: On Fri, Apr 14, 2006 at 01:11:20PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Apr 14, 2006 at 09:33:35AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: Andrew Sackville-West wrote: Huh, look at that. It doesn't show up in any of the attachments either. Just not there. Good eye Gene. It's there. This is not the first time I've seen an argument about whether a specific message had the unsubscribe tag-line appended to it. There would seem to be confused mail clients out there that cut off the signature if there is also a PGP key. Does anyone know which ones? IMHO the confused clients must be the ones showing the tag-line. ;-) I think the pgp thing is a red (pink?) herring; the effect is actually due to MIME encoding, which pgp messages use, as do other messages. I think you are correct. The answer I haven't looked up yet, is what is an email agent supposed to do with 2 or 3 extra text lines that are below the end marker of the mimetype? IMO it should fall back to plain text mode and display it, but what does the actual rfc say about such a situation? And, how much screwing around would it be to make the listserver actualy wrap it with the proper mimetype declaration? Test question for the mutt users here. Is there a way to turn off mutts automatic sig trimming (anything below the -- ) thats preventing those users from seeing it in a message I originate since with that exception, I'm sending plain text. Looking at my debian list mail, most multipart messages are pgp, others are html, and a few have just plain text sections. The unsubscribe tag-line does not show in my mutt MUA in any of these. If I add another mime boundary before the debian tag-line, then it does show up (er, except for the html ones for some reason...). I've looked a bit at the SmartList source, but haven't found where/how this is configured; adding the tag-line, that is. Per another ressponse in this thread, if the tagline were to be identified properly as another multipart section it would probably appear in compliant MUAs. Hard to say if this would really help for the OP, of course, especially as there are plenty of non-MIME messages that should show the information. -- Ken Irving -- Cheers, Gene People having trouble with vz bouncing email to me should add the word 'online' between the 'verizon', and the dot which bypasses vz's stupid bounce rules. I do use spamassassin too. :-) Yahoo.com and AOL/TW attorneys please note, additions to the above message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2006 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] It seems to me, that if your client removes everything below -- then that is a bug. Please correct me if I'm wrong? Love Friendship Blessed Be! Lynn Erika Kilroy _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Old Software
Someone mentioned that newbies should go right to unstable, because newbies
shouldn't have to play with old software.
Hon, I would go with stable because I don't want anymore headache than I
absolutely need when dealing with my computer. Windows is a pain in the
arse, but it works, and the one I'm using {believe it or not} is 98 Second
Edition.
Hmmm. Lot's of new software on my computer.
More favorites of mine are Railroad Tycoon Deluxe, One Must Fall 2097, and
Transport Tycoon. Hmmm. I guess I'm just going to have to buy a brand new
computer with a bleeding edge Windows on it, won't I?
Oh! I'm very nearly an expert QuickBasic programmer. I would love to port
that knowledge to c, but c has a really alien syntax that is hard to follow,
and finding reference material for c appears to be next to impossible. I
guess all c programmers are part of some exclusive club that all went to
harvard univerity on the coattails of their rich dads, huh?
Love Friendship Blessed Be!
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From: Manaen Schlabach [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well I am finally thinking about upgrading my tired old radeon 7500. I know that ATI and Nvidia both have decent cards but their drivers are completely closed. I know and understand that companies must protect some of their trade secrets but I would like very much to support a graphics manufacturer who opens their specs as much as possible to opensource and free software developers. Having said that, what are everyones thoughts about which card that might be? At one time it was Matrox are they still the most GNU/Linux friendly out there or has someone else taken the lead on that? I wouldn't mind supporting ATi/nVidia if they at least opened up their specs on old cards (say older than 3 years) do they really have that much to lose by doing so? Upgrading your tired old Radeon 7500!? :-O I have a brand new ATI Radeon 7000! :-O Love Friendship Blessed Be! Lynn Erika Kilroy _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help with Hardware {Not Debian Specific}
From: Matthew R. Dempsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sat, Apr 15, 2006 at 09:22:47AM +, Lynn Kilroy wrote: The drives are brand new. 160GB SATA RAID Drives, Western Digital Caviar Drives. When they get hot, they seem to shut down, and the OS, in it's efforts to work with the data on the now apparently disabled drives crashes. Both drives appear to be affected, as they both seem to get very hot to the touch. No other components seem to suffer these problems. It's really bizarre that you would have *two* brand new drives both experiencing these overheating issues. They're probably still under warranty, so maybe you should contact WD about it. I will contact them and see what they can tell me about the drives. I take it, then, most people don't have overheating problems with their drives? Love Friendship Blessed Be! Lynn Erika Kilroy _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help with Hardware {Not Debian Specific}
From: Matthew R. Dempsky [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, Apr 13, 2006 at 06:26:05AM +, Lynn Kilroy wrote:
My machine has twin WD1600JS SATA RAID hard drives. I have them setup
to
mirror each other, but I find them unreliable and I suspect heat trouble
because they get really hot to the touch.
Sorry, I don't have any specific advice, but a few quick followup
questions: How old are the drives? Why do you find them unreliable?
Do the heat troubles affect both of them? Do any other components seem
to overheat as well?
The drives are brand new. 160GB SATA RAID Drives, Western Digital Caviar
Drives. When they get hot, they seem to shut down, and the OS, in it's
efforts to work with the data on the now apparently disabled drives crashes.
Both drives appear to be affected, as they both seem to get very hot to
the touch. No other components seem to suffer these problems.
The older hard drives are 2GB IDE hard drives, and although they get warm,
they don't get hot to the touch. The other parts {CPU, etcetera} seem okay,
all their cooling equipment working perfectly. The mother board is under
six months old, and is an AMD 800MHz with 768MB RAM installed. It does seem
to have some trouble talking to an ATI Radeon 7000 video card, but I have
been unable to ascertain if that's the motherboard or the video card.
The machine works fine {although slowly} with the 2GB IDE Hard Drives.
I am seriously considering just buying a ten inch fan and pointing it right
at the side of the computer and never replacing the cowling. This would be
an ugly solution, but it may be what I have to do - at least for a little
bit. Buit I don't know if this would resolve the overheating issue or not.
Love Friendship Blessed Be!
Lynn Erika Kilroy
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Help with Hardware {Not Debian Specific}
My machine has twin WD1600JS SATA RAID hard drives. I have them setup to
mirror each other, but I find them unreliable and I suspect heat trouble
because they get really hot to the touch. They are not installed in a
server {which is strange} and there is no room to install most of the hard
drive cooling kits I see. I was wondering if anyone had any advice. At the
moment, I'm contemplating kitbashing a cooling kit of my own using some
computer fans and a kind of rig to hold them in place, but better options
would be greatly appreciated.
Love Friendship Blessed Be!
Lynn Erika Kilroy
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