Re: Network unreachable

[Marshal Wong]

On Sun, 2003-11-02 at 09:50, Jeffrey Barish wrote:
> Marshal Wong wrote:
> > On Sat, 2003-11-01 at 20:21, Jeffrey Barish wrote:
> > 
> >>When I use the kernel that I built from the source for 2.4.18-686, I get 
> >>the message:
> >>
> >>sendto: Network is unreachable
> >>
> >>when I try to ping another machine on my network.  Using ifconfig, I 
> >>noticed that eth0 had no IP address assigned.  So I did
> >>
> >>ifconfig eth0 down
> >>
> >>and then
> >>
> >>ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.8 netmask 255.255.255.0 up
> >>
> >>At that point, ping worked.  So it seems as if dhcp is not working.  Is 
> >>there something in the kernel configuration that is required to make 
> >>dhcp work? 
> >>
> >>I am still not able to browse the web.  I get the message "Could not 
> >>connect to host ..." no matter what URL I use.
> >>
> > 
> > 
> > I've noticed that dhcp doesn't change any configurations.  If I run
> > dhclient, it spews out the information for the dhcp, but that's it.  It
> > doesn't change any network settings.  It's been that way for a long time
> > now, but I've just worked around it...  Good to know that someone else
> > is having the problem...
> > 
> > Anyways, to help you with the "Could no connect to host..." problem, you
> > probably need to add a default gateway to your routing table.
> > 
> > Check if the default gateway is reasonable using
> > 
> > # route (as root.  Haha!)
> > 
> > If not, then
> > 
> > # route add default gw 
> > 
> > Good Luck.
> > 
> > Marshal
> 
> Your suggestion solved the problem.  I also had
>auto eth0
>iface eth0 inet dhcp
> in my /etc/network/interfaces, but the routing was not correct until I 
> issued the route command manually.
> 
> I still don't understand why there is a difference depending on whether 
> I boot the kernel that I built from 2.4.18-686 source or use the 
> standard kernel in that distribution.  The standard kernel gets 
> everything right without my issuing the ifconfig and route commands. 
> Also, I see dhclient running with the standard kernel.  I'm thinking 
> that the problem when I run my kernel that requires the ifconfig and 
> route commands arises because dhcp doesn't run, and dhcp doesn't run 
> because something is not configured correctly in my kernel.  What do I 
> need to turn on when I configure my kernel to get dhcp?  Is there some 
> other explanation for why dhcp doesn't run with my kernel?
> 

You know, that could be where the problem is, because I didn't have that
problem until I started playing around with my kernel...

Unfortunately, I'm in the same position as you.  I have no idea why it
would make a difference.

Marshal


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Re: Network unreachable

[Marshal Wong]

On Sun, 2003-11-02 at 03:20, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On Sun, 2003-11-02 at 05:03, Marshal Wong wrote:
> > On Sun, 2003-11-02 at 01:41, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > > On Sun, 2003-11-02 at 03:28, Marshal Wong wrote:
> > > > On Sat, 2003-11-01 at 20:21, Jeffrey Barish wrote:
> > > > > When I use the kernel that I built from the source for 2.4.18-686, I get 
> > > > > the message:
> > > > > 
> > > > > sendto: Network is unreachable
> > > > > 
> > > > > when I try to ping another machine on my network.  Using ifconfig, I 
> > > > > noticed that eth0 had no IP address assigned.  So I did
> > > > > 
> > > > > ifconfig eth0 down
> > > > > 
> > > > > and then
> > > > > 
> > > > > ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.8 netmask 255.255.255.0 up
> > > > > 
> > > > > At that point, ping worked.  So it seems as if dhcp is not working.  Is 
> > > > > there something in the kernel configuration that is required to make 
> > > > > dhcp work? 
> > > > > 
> > > > > I am still not able to browse the web.  I get the message "Could not 
> > > > > connect to host ..." no matter what URL I use.
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > I've noticed that dhcp doesn't change any configurations.  If I run
> > > > dhclient, it spews out the information for the dhcp, but that's it.  It
> > > > doesn't change any network settings.  It's been that way for a long time
> > > > now, but I've just worked around it...  Good to know that someone else
> > > > is having the problem...
> > > > 
> > > > Anyways, to help you with the "Could no connect to host..." problem, you
> > > > probably need to add a default gateway to your routing table.
> > > > 
> > > > Check if the default gateway is reasonable using
> > > > 
> > > > # route (as root.  Haha!)
> > > > 
> > > > If not, then
> > > > 
> > > > # route add default gw 
> > > 
> > > That should not be necessary.  ifup should do that for you, if your
> > > /etc/network/interfaces has this in it:
> > >   auto eth0
> > >   iface eth0 inet dhcp
> > > 
> > 
> > Right, it should.  But it doesn't on my computer, for some reason.  At
> > least it didn't when I was using DHCP.  I haven't tested it recently.
> > 
> > It could be a powerpc thing though...
> 
> Which dhcp client are you using?
> 

I'm using dhcp3-client.

Actually, this is what happens, now that I've had to try it again.

I have my network card driver as a module (sungem.o).  I modprobe it. 
No problem.

Of course, then, there is no eth1 in ifconfig.  If I try to run "ifup
eth1" with /etc/network/interface having the line

iface eth1 inet dhcp

I get errors such as 

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo ifup eth1
Internet Software Consortium DHCP Client V3.0.1rc11
Copyright 1995-2002 Internet Software Consortium.
All rights reserved.
For info, please visit http://www.isc.org/products/DHCP
 
Listening on LPF/eth1/00:30:65:69:de:84
Sending on   LPF/eth1/00:30:65:69:de:84
Sending on   Socket/fallback
receive_packet failed on eth1: Network is down
DHCPREQUEST on eth1 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
send_packet: Network is down
 
So the only way that I've been able to make it work is:

ifconfig eth1 up
dhclient eth1

route add default gw 

Running

ifconfig eth1 up
ifup eth1

doesn't affect the routing tables.

Any help would be appreciated.

Marshal


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Re: Network unreachable

[Marshal Wong]

On Sun, 2003-11-02 at 01:41, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On Sun, 2003-11-02 at 03:28, Marshal Wong wrote:
> > On Sat, 2003-11-01 at 20:21, Jeffrey Barish wrote:
> > > When I use the kernel that I built from the source for 2.4.18-686, I get 
> > > the message:
> > > 
> > > sendto: Network is unreachable
> > > 
> > > when I try to ping another machine on my network.  Using ifconfig, I 
> > > noticed that eth0 had no IP address assigned.  So I did
> > > 
> > > ifconfig eth0 down
> > > 
> > > and then
> > > 
> > > ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.8 netmask 255.255.255.0 up
> > > 
> > > At that point, ping worked.  So it seems as if dhcp is not working.  Is 
> > > there something in the kernel configuration that is required to make 
> > > dhcp work? 
> > > 
> > > I am still not able to browse the web.  I get the message "Could not 
> > > connect to host ..." no matter what URL I use.
> > > 
> > 
> > I've noticed that dhcp doesn't change any configurations.  If I run
> > dhclient, it spews out the information for the dhcp, but that's it.  It
> > doesn't change any network settings.  It's been that way for a long time
> > now, but I've just worked around it...  Good to know that someone else
> > is having the problem...
> > 
> > Anyways, to help you with the "Could no connect to host..." problem, you
> > probably need to add a default gateway to your routing table.
> > 
> > Check if the default gateway is reasonable using
> > 
> > # route (as root.  Haha!)
> > 
> > If not, then
> > 
> > # route add default gw 
> 
> That should not be necessary.  ifup should do that for you, if your
> /etc/network/interfaces has this in it:
>   auto eth0
>   iface eth0 inet dhcp
> 

Right, it should.  But it doesn't on my computer, for some reason.  At
least it didn't when I was using DHCP.  I haven't tested it recently.

It could be a powerpc thing though...

Marshal

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Re: Network unreachable

[Marshal Wong]

On Sat, 2003-11-01 at 20:21, Jeffrey Barish wrote:
> When I use the kernel that I built from the source for 2.4.18-686, I get 
> the message:
> 
> sendto: Network is unreachable
> 
> when I try to ping another machine on my network.  Using ifconfig, I 
> noticed that eth0 had no IP address assigned.  So I did
> 
> ifconfig eth0 down
> 
> and then
> 
> ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.8 netmask 255.255.255.0 up
> 
> At that point, ping worked.  So it seems as if dhcp is not working.  Is 
> there something in the kernel configuration that is required to make 
> dhcp work? 
> 
> I am still not able to browse the web.  I get the message "Could not 
> connect to host ..." no matter what URL I use.
> 

I've noticed that dhcp doesn't change any configurations.  If I run
dhclient, it spews out the information for the dhcp, but that's it.  It
doesn't change any network settings.  It's been that way for a long time
now, but I've just worked around it...  Good to know that someone else
is having the problem...

Anyways, to help you with the "Could no connect to host..." problem, you
probably need to add a default gateway to your routing table.

Check if the default gateway is reasonable using

# route (as root.  Haha!)

If not, then

# route add default gw 

Good Luck.

Marshal


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Re: crossover ethernet networking

[Marshal Wong]

On Fri, 2003-10-31 at 11:04, Bill Lovett wrote:
> I need to connect another machine to my home network, but my Linksys
> router is already full. My debian server happens to have a second
> ethernet card in addition to the main one which connects to the router.
> I'd like to connect the second card to the new machine via a crossover
> cable. How do I go about setting that up? 
> 

I think you just have to connect with the crossover cable and assign the
new machine an ip address that hasn't been used.

Depends if you have firewalls up or not or anything that actually sees
which interface things are going out of.  I guess the main thing is to
look at your routing table.  (route).

Plug it in and try, and come back if you run into problems.  ^_^

Good Luck.

Marshal


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Re: Fonts to big in gtk1 programs

[Marshal Wong]

On Sun, 2003-10-26 at 19:06, Viktor Rosenfeld wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> For a long while now fonts in gtk1 applications (gimp, gnucash, ...) are
> broken.  Basically they are too large.  I've looked on google and setup
> some defoma and fontconfig stuff and while the appearance is better now,
> they are still the same size.
> 
> I'm running up-to-date unstable on powerpc.  I'm generally using KDE and
> have no problems with fonts there.  Also gnome2 applications (gaim,
> mozilla) work fine (thanks to gnome-control-center).
> 

Have you tried removing the 100dpi fontline from XF86Config, or at least
put it as the very last line of the section, so something like this:

Section "Files"
#   FontPath"unix/:7100"# local font
server
# if the local font server has problems, we can fall back on
these
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1"
FontPath"/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/CID" 
FontPath   
"/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi"
EndSection

See if that helps.

Good Luck.

Marshal

> Any links?
> 
> Thanks,
> Viktor


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Re: gtk2 apps + utf 8 = squared characters

[Marshal Wong]

On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 19:52, Marc Wilson wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 02:45:23AM -0400, ThanhVu Nguyen wrote:
> > Hi, I use Sarge and have some gtk2 apps like xchat but when someone is
> > typing an international language, all I can see is these squared
> > characters -  how do I fix this ?  
> 
> Set your locale properly and make sure you're using a font that contains
> the characters they're typing.  The first is far more important than the
> latter.
> 

I would have to disagree here a little bit.  Since he's using gtk2, they
should be running pango which handles internationalization without
playing around with locales.  So having the fonts is more important than
the locale.

Marshal

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Re: spamassassin rules for swen? [Re: getting viruses/spam after posting to this list]

[Marshal Wong]

On Thu, 2003-10-16 at 08:51, Michael A. Miller wrote:
> > "Amal" == Amal Phadke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > I am currently using combination of Spamassassin and access
> > control via /etc/mail/access (I use sendmail) with good
> > success. Now "MS Patches" are down to one or two per
> > day. Before I used to get about 80 or more in a day.
> 
> What spamassassin rules are you using for swen?  After googling
> for a while, I assembled the following rules that seem to work
> pretty well.  But I wonder if there is something more elegant
> that I could do.  For example, I expect this message to get
> scored high when spamassassin sees the body ;-)
> 

Spamassassin uses bayesian filtering now, at least in unstable.  So just
collect a whole pile of spam, and collect a whole pile of ham (real
mail) and feed it to sa-learn.  Read 'man sa-learn' for all the details.

In brief:

sa-learn --spam 
or
sa-learn --spam --mbox 

and

sa-learn --ham 
or
sa-learn --ham --mbox 

Hope that helps.

Marshal

> Mike
> 
> 
> score MICROSOFT_EXECUTABLE +5
> 
> body  SWENVIRUS  /allow an malicious user to run code on your computer/
> score SWENVIRUS  +5.5
> 
> body  SWENVIRUS2 /Microsoft C.*mer/i
> score SWENVIRUS2 +2
> 
> body  SWENVIRUS3 /You don't need to do anything after installing this item/i
> score SWENVIRUS3 +2
> 
> header SWENHEADERSubject =~ /Microsoft Critical/i
> score  SWENHEADER+2
> 
> header SWENHEADER2   Subject =~ /New Microsoft Security Update/i
> score  SWENHEADER2   +2
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Re: iiimf

[Marshal Wong]

On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 18:57, Oki DZ wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have installed the server and some language "modules"; but how would I 
> know whether it works as expected? I mean, I have installed Emacs and 
> iiimcef package, and executed meta-x iiim-*. But I don't think that I 
> can change any languages or input-methods (ie: no default values). What 
> Debian applications are available that make use iiimf?
> 
> BTW, I think the World needs an iiimf client that can be used to know 
> whether the server is working (ie: just like the X font-server client).
> 

I know the gtk/gnome2 ones work, kinda of.  Buggy, but I can enter stuff
into it.  I haven't tried the emacs one, since emacs handles Japanese
well enough for me.

IIIMF has a lot of potential, but that's where it's at right now.  Lots
of potential, but not enough show yet...

Good luck.

Marshal



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Re: Inputting German, Japanese, and English at the same time?

[Marshal Wong]

On Tue, 2003-10-14 at 18:38, Arne Goetje wrote:
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> On Tuesday 14 October 2003 22:37, Don Werve wrote:
> > All these messages about getting X and such to properly display
> > international characters got me thinking; does anyone in here have a
> > functioning setup for entering the above three languages in X terminal
> > applications like vim and mutt?  Or, more accurately, does anyone know
> > of a good way to input European languages, while at the same time
> > keeping messages in English and allowing for kinput2-based Japanese
> > input support?
> >
> > I can, of course, set my various locale-related environment variables
> > and get English-and-German or English-and-Japanese, but if I touch
> > almost anything, vim stops talking with Kinput (no japanese), but starts
> > accepting accented German characters (I can again type with umlauts and
> > such).  On top of that, most of my GUI-based X applications, such as
> > Netscape and OO.o, have absolutely no problem with whatever I decide to
> > thow at them.
> >
> > Any ideas?
> 
> AFAIK all asian input methods (IMs) use their own national encodings to create the 
> characters.
> I don't know any of them which supports unicode. For displaying european accents and 
> umlauts together with asian chars you'll need unicode.
> However, I use KDE3 and chinese to write mails and documents. My locale is set to 
> en_US.UTF8 and I start a seperate chinese terminal with zh_TW.Big5 to make xcin 
> putting traditional chinese chars into my apps when I start them from the chinese 
> terminal..
> When I want to use german, I have to disable xcin (change to English mode) and use 
> the keyboard layout choser in KDE to change to german keyboard layout. Then I can 
> input german chars at least into KDE apps, not into konsole, because of the locale 
> settings.
> 
> example:
> locale is en_US.UTF8.
> in KDE I start a Big5 xcinterm to get a chinese terminal with xcin as IM. The locale 
> in that terminal is set to zh_TW.Big5.
> - From that terminal I start kmail.
> Now I can either type chinese, or use the KDE keyboard layout choose to change my 
> keyboard to german. Then I can type german umlauts.
> If the mail is sent as UTF8, the receipient will be able to read it as long as he 
> has the correct fonts installed.
> 
> I know that for chinese (xcin) unicode support is work in progress.
> 
That is unfortunately the state of things right now.  Everyone is
interested in setting things up for their own countries.

However things are progressing.  Gnome2 now supports multi-lingual
imputs through a kind of an plugin mechanism.  Just right click on a
text area and choose "Input Methods".  Other input methods can be added
to that menu.  On the surface, it's kind of like the Windows IME.

On that's looking promising is the IIIMF, found at:
http://www.openi18n.org/subgroups/im/IIIMF/

There are packages in unstable.

Still kind of buggy with the Japanese server that I use (can't use space
in non-japanese mode), but it's looking better.

I guess the faster we move everyone to Unicode, the better...

Marshal


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Re: International Characters

[Marshal Wong]

On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 21:58, Tom wrote:
> As you might have read in another of my posts, I've got a pretty 
> "beautiful" font-environment going.  However, I'm completely stuck with 
> American characters -- everybody's accent-e, umlaut-u, and of course 
> chinese just shows up as ? in Mutt in gnome-terminal, and Mozilla the 
> slightest unusual character shows up as a character-code-picture.
> 
> During locales setup I generate en_US ISO-8859-1 and en_US.UTF-8 UTF-8, 
> and set my default to "en_US".
> 
> I'm a dumb american so I haven't done anything else special.  I want to 
> be able to see western european characters; I can't read chinese or 
> hebrew but it would be nice to at least see it.  Is there anything 
> obvious and simple I can do to "turn on" such features?
> 
The most obvious... Did you install any chinese fonts?

Another question is, are you running gnome 1 or gnome2?  gnome2's
handling of international characters is pretty nice.  And I haven't had
problems with mozilla handling foreign fonts recently.  More problems
with encoding.  Sometimes you have to let it know what the page is
encoded with.

Good luck.

Marshal



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Re: Debian Font Guide for Newbies and the Confused

[Marshal Wong]

On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 20:25, M. Kirchhoff wrote:
> While looking through the deb-user archives for some font-related info, I
> discovered that there is still an insane amount of confusion regarding fonts
> under XFree86. Googling, which new users tend to rely on, results in myriad yet
> often contracting font guides.  
> 
> The two biggies--The Font De-Uglification HowTo and the Font Howto--are outdated
> and hopelessly outdated, respectively. They both contain a wealth of important
> info, but, alas, that info is likely to send new users down a very dark tunnel
> of inexorable agitation.  I know, I was one of them.  
> 
> Another problem with these guides is their breadth--they cover too wide a set of
> topics, and they are not Debian specific.  The closest--and still the
> best--guide is Paul D. Smith's TrueType fonts guide, but that covers TT fonts only.
> 
> Ugly fonts bothered me immensely when I first made the switch from Windows to
> GNU/Linux, and I know how frustrating trying to pull bits of (mostly outdated)
> information from various howtos can be.
> 
> So, I plan to create a guide for a very specific group of people: those new to
> both Linux and Debian--or those who simply want a consise, pithy guide to
> getting pretty fonts in Debian.
> 
> This guide will cover *only* stand-alone workstations. As of Xfree 4.x, it is
> absolutely unnecessary to run a font server if serving fonts isn't a requisite,
> i.e. most users.  It will also cover on Woody stable.  There will be no
> information on configuring fonts for specific applications (not yet, anyway),
> but simply for X.  
> 
> So, I'd like peoples' thoughts on this.  Is it necessary? Should I change the
> focus, etc. etc. Personally, I feel there needs to be a down-and-dirty guide to
> fonts to complement the great general information on fonts in the aforementioned
> guides; something to get new users going without them having to become experts
> on fontography.
> 

I'm not expert, but I say go for it.  At the very least, up date some of
the information.  I think the best thing would be a step-by-step guide
to getting it all done.  What to edit in XF86Config.  Where to get
fonts.  Where to put them. etc. etc.

But, under debian, you could just build a package that does it all for
you...

By the way, have you looked at the anti-aliasing-howto in stable? It
appears to be gone in unstable now...

Good luck.

> Let me know what you think.
> 
> Sincerely,
> M. Kirchhoff
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Re: USB not working, Need Help

[Marshal Wong]

On Mon, 2003-10-06 at 01:01, Ralph F. De Witt wrote:
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> On Monday 06 October 2003 12:12 am, Marshal Wong wrote:
> > First off, did you recompile the kernel or are you using a stock
> > kernel?  Did you load the usb modules?
> >
> > I don't know how well you know linux, so if you've already done all
> > that, please forgive.  Let us know what steps you've taken and any error
> > results and maybe we can help you more.
> Marshal:
> Thanks for your quick reply. To answer your questions. This Debian install 
> start out as Knoppix 3.2. As I failed to get Woody to install, could not get 
> x to work. This is the stock kernel that installed from Knoppix. It is the 
> 2.4.22 xfs kernel. I did a upgrade to SID. I did a lsmod and it showed the 
> usbcore and usb-uchi modules loaded. Yesterday my three usb devices and the 
> usb system stuff showed in the KDE info center today after a upgrade to SID 
> and reboot they do not show and xsane cannot find the scanner. My thinking is 
> that in converting the Knoppix install to Sid something broke the USB system, 
> I can see the usb modules loaded with lsmod but do not know what else to do 
> to trouble shoot the problem.
> - -- 

Check if /proc/bus/usb is mounted.  That maybe where KDE info center
gets its information.  (I don't use KDE, so I can't really help you
there).  If not, it can be mounted by "mount -t usbdevfs none
/proc/bus/usb" as root.

also check that /dev/ and/or /dev/usb/ has the device files for your usb
stuff.  (what do you have beside the scanner?) 

With xsane, check the configuration files for xsane.  They should be
/etc/xsane or something like that.  You may have to edit the
configuration files to point xsane in the right direction.

But lets make sure that usb is up and running first before tackling
xsane.  You got a USB mouse or something easy to test?

Good luck.

Marshal

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Re: USB not working, Need Help

[Marshal Wong]

On Sun, 2003-10-05 at 14:57, Ralph F. De Witt wrote:
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> Hello:
> I am new to debian and still very much unfamilliar with Debian. Yesterday I 
> had my USB subsystem working. Today after an update and a reboot I find no 
> USB devices listed in the system. Could someone help me, by talking me thru 
> the checks I need to make, etc. I would like to get the system fixed and gain 
> the knowledge so that I can correct  this myself should this happen again. 
> Thanks for any help.

First off, did you recompile the kernel or are you using a stock
kernel?  Did you load the usb modules?

I don't know how well you know linux, so if you've already done all
that, please forgive.  Let us know what steps you've taken and any error
results and maybe we can help you more.

Good luck.

Marshal

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Re: making a disk image

[Marshal Wong]

On Sat, 2003-10-04 at 10:46, Vikki Roemer wrote:
> Hi,
> I'm working on putting together a floppy-based distro, and I want to back up
> my floppies as disk images.  What's the quickest and easiest way to do that?
> 

I think 'dd' might work for that.  Try man dd or info dd for more
information.  You use it for writing disk images, so I guess it should
work backwards too.

dd if=/dev/fd0 of=filename.img

Good luck.

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Re: HP DeskJet driver (hpijs)

[Marshal Wong]

Carl Greco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Has the HP DeskJet driver, hpijs, been included in gs, or gs-aladdin
> in testing or unstable?  I'm attempting to install lprng with
> magicfilter to serve a 895Cse printer under stable (potato).  
> 

Not it testing, to what I know.  You can compile gs and hpijs from
hand.  Look to

http://ephishmsee.com/linux/

for a HOWTO that I wrote on doing so.  It's for my mac, so you just
have to make the adjustments for your system, i.e. leaving the
--LITTLE-ENDIAN option on.  I'm using a 957c just fine now.

good luck.

Marshal

> If not, what would be the best alternate solution?
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Re: Why is Debian lagging so much behind Slackware?

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Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> "Keith G. Murphy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > No, I honestly don't think it's that at all.  The problem is, once you
> > let the package maintainers update stable on the fly with bug fixes, how
> > do you ensure they don't break something major (which may not even be
> > the package itself in isolation, but interaction with others)?
> 
> OTOH, it would seem to be feasible to update and test packages which
> are leafs on the dependency tree.  How would they affect packages
> which don't depend on them?  
> 
> For example, it would seem reasonable to upgrade Gnus, nethack or sl,
> which don't seem to have any other packages depending on them.[1] It
> might be feasible to upgrade Emacs, since you would have a limited
> number of packages to check.  It would be very difficult to upgrade
> libc.
> 
> This would seem to allow the updating of many desktop-type apps (as
> long as they worked with the existing version of the libraries they
> depend on).
> 
> Footnotes: 
> [1]  Is there a way to check that, I wonder?

deborphan would probably do that.  Or a modification of it.
I don't think you are able to install EVERYTHING in the distribution,
so you'll have to take that into account with the current version of
deborphan, I think...

my 2 yen.

Marshal

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Re: AmigaPPC!

[Marshal Wong]

"G.Lepir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hi there!
> 
>  
> 
> I have an AmigaPPC with a BVision graphics card!
> 
> I have seen Debian with a Gnome interface thingy working on a PPC Equiped 
> Amiga and have been totally blown away by it! Have
> not been able to speak or find said person!
> 
>  
> 
> How and where can I find the PPC Amiga version and drivers for the BVision 
> graphics card!
> 

Look under http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc for more info, and if
you need help specific to the PowerPC port, you would probably be
better off using the debian-powerpc mailing list.

Good luck.

Marshal
>  
> 
> I have looked through the site and am confused very much so!
> 
>  
> 
> Have never used or loaded Linux ever!
> 
> I would appreciate it heaps if someone could bow down to my level and help me 
> out!
> 
>  
> 
> Yours Faithfully!
> 
>  
> 
> G.Lepir!
> 
>  
> 
> Thanx for your time!
> 
> Looking forward to using Linux!
> 
> :)
> 
>  
> 
>  

Re: Linux on Sony PlayStation 2

[Marshal Wong]

John Galt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Wed, 8 Aug 2001, Rainer Keller wrote:
> 
> >Hello,
> >
> >first off, sorry, if this post is completely wrong on this mailing
> >list
> >
> >At LinuxTag 2001 in Stuttgart, Germany, there was a Sony PlayStation 2
> >with Debian Linux shown at the Debian booth.
> >Unfortunately, I was at the LinuxTag, but not the booth.
> 
> Prolly Debian-sh.  It's not ready for primetime yet, but I'm sure there's
> a mailinglist to look in on and probably some test binaries...
> 
> >Now, I'd like to know, what it needs to get Linux running on such a
> >machine, what kind of hardware is needed, and whether it's available in
> >Germany, anyway ,-]]
> 
> http://www.m17n.org/linux-sh/debian/
> 

Actually, that's for the SEGA DreamCast's SuperH processor.  I'm
pretty sure that the PS2 doesn't run a SuperH, although the chips were
fabricated by Hitachi.

Perhaps a more relevant link, but a bit US centered.

http://www.xrhino.com/

> 
> >Any advice or help would be appreciated.
> >
> >Greetings,
> >raY
> >
> >
> >
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Re: How secure am I?

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Sebastiaan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Fri, 3 Aug 2001, Patrick Kirk wrote:
> 
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > Now that I've ADSL working, I suppose I'd better take a few precautions.
> > 
> > 1. Running woody so is there a Woody specific line to add to sources'list
> > for security updates?
> No real extra hazards.
> 
> > 
> > 2. nmap from a remote host shows the following:
> > Starting nmap V. 2.12 by Fyodor ([EMAIL PROTECTED], www.insecure.org/nmap/)
> > Interesting ports on host217-35-25-225.in-addr.btopenworld.com
> > (217.35.25.225):
> > PortState   Protocol  Service
> > 9   opentcpdiscard
> > 13  opentcpdaytime
> > 21  opentcpftp
> > 22  opentcpssh
> > 25  opentcpsmtp
> > 37  opentcptime
> > 53  opentcpdomain
> > 79  opentcpfinger
> > 80  opentcphttp
> > 111 opentcpsunrpc
> > 113 opentcpauth
> > 139 opentcpnetbios-ssn
> > 515 opentcpprinter
> > 901 opentcpunknown
> > 1024opentcpunknown
> > 
> > I see no need to share a printer, port 25, dns or finger with the internet
> > at large.  In fact, I don't know what finger, sunprpc, time, discard,
> > daytime do :-(
> Whoah! This is bad. Edit /etc/inetd.conf and disable every service, except
> exim (you need a mta for your system). That will help. For the other
> ports, think about setting up a firewall.
> 
> Greetz,
> Sebastiaan
> 

Yep, definitely turn of anything you don't need.  If you find out how
to turn off "printer", let me know.  I think lpr, and lprng both need
it to be listening for the print spooler to work.  However, I haven't
figured out how to make it only listen on 127.0.0.1 instead of
everywhere...

If you don't need NFS, (And if you don't know what it is, you probably
don't need it) you can turn off sunrpc.  However, you need to do that
by turning off "portmap" in /etc/init.d.  So you'll have to change
your runlevels a bit.

Good luck.

Marshal

> 
> > 
> > Any suggested URLs apart from the
> > http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Security-HOWTO.html appreciated.
> > 
> > Thanks.
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Re: Getting Kaji support in Debian and Netscape - please help

[Marshal Wong]

hanasaki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I have Potato and have installed the following packages:
> 
>o kinput2-wnn - An input server for X11 applications that want Japanese 
> text input
>o kterm - Multi-lingual terminal emulator for X.
>o netscape-ja-resource-477 - Netscape 4.77 Japanese resources.
>o netscape-base-477 - 4.77 base support for netscape
> 
> but am unable to get:
> 
>o netscape to display kaji / hiragana / katakana from email that was sent 
> to me or from japanese web pages - I am using
>  exim as my mta

Have you set the language settings for netscape?  Perhaps you need
Japanese fonts for X installed?  I'm can't really help you, as I use
mozilla, and it works fine.  I also use emacs for reading and writing
mail, which has it's own support for Japanese input.

Good luck.

marshal

>o kterm to accept japanese input - the man page says to use esc/B but this 
> does not work.
> Thank you.

Re: Help with Japanese support

[Marshal Wong]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher S. Swingley) writes:

> Hello,
> 
> I'm a sysadmin for an international group of scientists, and a
> recent arrival from Japan was inquiring about the possibility of
> reading and responding to Japanese encoded email with her Linux box.
> I remember that at one point there was a Debian-JP group, and IIRC,
> their packages were fully integrated into Debian.
> 
> Can someone give me some pointers on how what packages / configurations
> are necessary to allow my user to communicate in Japanese, while
> still leaving the majority of the system in English?
> 

Well, if you're using testing (I'm not sure about stable.) you can use
mutt-ja.  But I've never been able to get it to install, as there are
some dependency problems.  I haven't checked recently.  I'm also not
sure about how to get it to work on the console.  Under X, it'll
probably work under a multi-lingual term.

What I do, is run X with a lot of the Japanese/Asian fonts installed.
I use emacs with gnus, which I know supports MULE.  You'll have to do
some minor adjusting to .Xresources to make emacs display multibyte
characters by default, but that's pretty simple, and in the info docs.

If you want more info, let me know more about your needs, and I'll try
to help.

Marshal

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Re: Imation LS-120

[Marshal Wong]

If you have the 2.4.x kernel (I'm not sure x>what, but I use the
lastest one, 7.) there is support for Mass Storage Devices under USB.
You need to have scsi emulation, and scsi disk support for it.  But
you might already know this.

I just mount it under /floppy.  Here is my fstab line:

/dev/sda/floppy hfs 
defaults,user,noauto,nosuid,noexec,nodev0   0

I use hfs, since I use it to move big files from my Mac side to my
Linux side.  (I run a mac).  hfsplus's hpcopy tends to puke on big
files...

Anyways, good luck.

Marshal

Steve Gran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hello all,
> I'm doing a home recording project on a MAC that belongs to a friend (G4,
> OS 9.something) because we're using pro-tools.  The reason I'm writing is
> that getting the recorded files over to my linux box for burning has me
> wondering.  We could, I suppose, set up a home network, bu I'd rather not
> go out and buy a router if I don't have to.  He has an Imation Super disk
> LS-120 that attaches via USB.  I have USB on the motherboard, and have
> compiled kernel support for it.  Does anyone have any experience with this
> kind of thing?  We haven't actually hooked it up yet, as I'm not sure how
> to proceed - I assume I have to set up an entry in /etc/fstab to tell it
> where to mount and create the mount point and so on, but I'm not even sure
> what the USB device name will under /dev/.  If anybody has some USB
> experience, or knows anything about using the superdisk, some pointers
> would be appreciated.
> Thanks,
> Steve
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Re: Cups, or magicfilter . HP Deskjet 540

[Marshal Wong]

DvB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Peter S Galbraith wrote:
> > Joel Mayes wrote:
> > However, the cupsomatic-ppd package _does_ have a bunch of ppd
> > files (913 in the version on woody), but it is distributed by
> > www.linuxprinting.org and not by www.cups.org.
> > --
> > Now, with projects such as CUPS and
> >  http://lpr.sourceforge.net/  (GNUlpr)
> >  http://sourceforge.net/foundry/printing
> >  http://hp.sourceforge.net/
> >  http://hp.sourceforge.net/uhowto/eps-uhowto.php  (Enhanced Printing System)
> > I'm left wondering how all the pieces fit together.  It's all
> > very confusing to me.
> > Peter
> >
> 
> 
> HP's sourceforge page says something about recompiling ghostscript
> with the hpdj driver included, which sounds like a real hassle to
> me. Mandrake (and other distros), however, already includes HP's
> driver with their distribution and I had no problems getting my HP
> DeskJet 932C working with LM8.0 and CUPS... It's all a matter of the
> driver getting bundled with Debian's cups/gs/whatever package. Are
> there any plans for doing this?
> 

Actually, I've had no problems building gs and hpijs.  Of course hpijs
isn't debianized, and goes into /usr/local, but that's no problem.
Got my DeskJet 957c working almost perfectly.  (No duplexer..)  I'm
using lprng though, not CUPS.

I have a HOWTO written up if anyone's interested.

Marshal



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Re: lprng for a home computer

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Philipp Lehman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> 
> I can't help you with your lprng question, but a firewall actually
> makes sense even on a stand-alone workstation or laptop. You can
> filter in the input chain just like you'd do on a dedicated firewall
> host.

I'm not an expert on firewalls, but if someone wanted to bring your
computer to a grinding halt, i.e. DoS, they could just send a whole
crap of packets, and firewall or no, the processor will have to spend
all it's cycles dealing with these packets.  If course, I guess it
would happen if you didn't have a firewall too, wouldn't it?

So I guess I'm asking what sort of advantages will I gain if I do run
a firewall on a personal machine.

thanks.

Marshal

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lprng for a home computer

[Marshal Wong]

Hello,

I run a laptop (PowerBook Prismo) and have a USB HP Printer attached
to it, which works, thanks to the great work at HP.  (Too bad there are
no debs, but recompiling gs wasn't that hard.)

I'm hardening my computer, since I have and ISDN connection which is
can be always on.  I only have this computer, so there isn't really
any sense in running a firewall.  I've gotten almost everything to
only listen to localhost TCP ports, except for lprng.  (For some
reason, lpr doesn't work nicely with the printer.)

So the question is, is there was way to make lprng to only listen to
127.0.0.1.  Searching through the configuration files and manuals
hasn't turned up anything.  The access control doesn't allow anyone to
connect except for localhost, but I would prefer if it didn't even
open the port.

Thanks for any help!

Marshal

Re: X windows /Gnome

[Marshal Wong]

Ramachandran Chidambaram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I installed Debian 2.2 from CD. Installation is fine
> but X window or Gnome do not get installed. I have
> tried number of times the installation with various
> parameters. No result. I have Compaq Presario 4840
> series PentiumII 266Mhz, with Acer 54e 15" color
> monitor.Thanks for your help.
> Ramachandran.C
> 

After installation of the base system, log in as root.  Then run the
program "dselect".  Press 'S' to select packages.  Hit the space bar
to get rid of the splash screen, (or read it.)  Then hit '/' do to a
search.  Type in 'xserver' to do a search for xservers that my work
for you.  You can repeat the last search with '\'.  When you find what
you want, hit '+' to select it.  Do something similar and search for
gnome.

Hit enter to return to the main menu.  Select install, and hopefully
everything will install for you.

There's some documentation out there that you should read,
unfortunately, I don't have any link handy for you.  I'm also assuming
that your new to debian.  If not, please give more information about
what you are doing.

marshal

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Problem connecting to ISP - ethernet address for proxy ARP

[Marshal Wong]

Hi all,

I don't know if anyone here can solve this problem, but it's worth a shot.
At least someone may be able to tell me what the problem is...

I'm currently running Debian/GNU Linux PPC on my Powerbook, and I get the
following problem when I try to connect to my ISP.  It connects, and I can
ping machines.  DNS works as I can ping  without a problem.
However, I can't browse the web.  Whenever I use lynx, it resolves the
address, and then nothing comes over the wire.  Just a blank screen.

I look through the logs and I get this message from ppp

Cannont determine ethernet addresss for proxy ARP.

Any hints, or clues?  Is it my problem, or the ISPs?

Just some further info, I'm actually living in Japan right now, so this is a
Japanese ISP (Dion).  I don't know if they do anything that different, but
I've had no problem using the MacOS to connect, using the MacOS Remote
Access.

I'm connecting over a USB ISDN adapter using ACM.  But I don't think this
the cause of the problem either, since when I try to connect with the built
in modem, I get the same results...

So, any help would be appreciated.  Please CC me, as I'm not subscribed to
this list.  Thanks in advance!

Marshal

How to make a boot disk?

[Marshal Wong]

Hey all,

You would think that after 2 years of experience with Linux, I would
know how to make a linux boot disk, but I don't.  So how do I do it?
:)

I heard of dd the kernel onto disk, but aren't there certain
variables that are on the kernel, like the root partition, that must
be changed?

Any help would be appreciated.

Marshal

Stopping screen blank out.

[Marshal Wong]

Sorry for the newbieness of this question, but how does one stop the
screen blank out in Woody.  The reason is that I want to watch some
VCDs, except after 10 minutes or so, the screen blanks.  When I go to
wake it up, the X server locks (and crashes and burns horribly.)  I
have no screen savers running.  I tried setterm -powersave off, but
under X it doesn't do anything.  I'm using X under gdm.

Any suggestions?

Marshal

Re: Network Q

[Marshal Wong]

> "Jay" == Jay Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> When I configure eth1 with ip, netmask, etc. then do a ifconfig
> all the information will show. After rebooting I do a ifconfig
> and all the information is now gone. How do I make sure it
> stays?

edit the /etc/network/interfaces file.

Marshal

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Re: Sound Question

[Marshal Wong]

>>>>> "Jay" == Jay Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> How do I figure out what to uncomment from the
> isapnp.conf. After doing pnpdump the file has several lines that
> are all commented out. Any help would be great

Try uncommenting the lines with parentesis ( ).  They usually come in
groups, IRQ, IO, DMA, etc.  You can sometimes change some of the
values in them too.  Read the comments before the line to see what can
be changed.  If you want, I'll forward you mine.

Marshal

    > -Original Message- From: Marshal Wong
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 4:16 PM To:
> Jay Kelly Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Sound
> Question


>>>>> "Jay" == Jay Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>> I am trying to setup a SoundBlaster16 sound card, I have
>> recomplied the kernel for sound and pnp support. Now I see the
>> howto is telling me to:

>> Use pnpdump to capture the possible settings for all your Plug
>> and Play devices, saving the result to the file
>> /etc/isapnp.conf.  Choose settings for the sound card that do
>> not conflict with any other devices in your system and
>> uncomment the appropriate lines in /etc/isapnp.conf. Don't
>> forget to uncomment the (ACT Y) command near the end.  Make
>> sure that isapnp is run when your system boots up, normally
>> done by one of the startup scripts. Reboot your system or run
>> isapnp manually.

>> 1) after using the 'pnpdump' how do I save it to the
>> /etc/isapnp.conf.

> pnpdump > /etc/isapnp.conf

>> 2) Where do I uncomment the (ACT Y) command? I didnt see it.

> Once get the information from pnpdump, it should be at the end
> of each device configuration set.

> A note, you may have problems with isapnp say that there are
> fatel irq, and io errors, even if you know that that address is
> not being used.  To fix this, add (ACT N) at the beginning of
> each device section.  Let me know if you have problems.

>> 3) How do I make sure the isapnp is run at bootup?

> If there is a working /etc/isapnp.conf, it will be used at
> bootup.  There is a script that runs it.  This is for sure for
> potato.  I can't remember if this is true for slink.

> Good Luck

>> Thanks Guys Jay


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Re: installation problems

[Marshal Wong]

> "Carlos" == Carlos Pena <- Jefe Division Electrica <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> 
> writes:

One question is where you got the CDs from.  It looks like that some
of the files have been truncated/corrupted...

Marshal

> Folks, I?ve tried to install Debian 2.1 (like 50
> times...). Everything is ok, until the dselect step. During the
> installation (after the first Linux boot) you?re given to choose
> the installation method: from profiles or pure dselect. I?ve
> chosed the profiles option (it seems like is easy...), so I
> provided the Access method, then I ran Update with the following
> results: Uncompressing
> /var/lib/dpkg/methods/mnt/l1/dists/slink/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz
> ...  done Replacing available packages information, using
> packages-main Information about 1152 packages was updated
> Uncompressing
> /var/lib/dpkg/methods/mnt/l1/dists/slink/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz
> ...  done Updating available packages information, using
> packages-ctb Information about 97 packages was updated Update OK

> It seems like everything is ok... right?  Now, I skip the Select
> step (recommended during installation) and run the Install
> option with the following poor results: Looking for part 1 of
> dpkg-perl .../var/lib/dpkg/methods/mnt/l1/dists/sl
> ink/main/binary-i386/devel/dpkg-perl_0.1-2hamm1.deb Running dpkg
> -iB for dpkg-perl ...  dpkg-deb: unexpected end of file in
> version number in
> /var/lib/dpkg/methods/mnt/l1/dists/slink/main/binary-i386/devel/dpkg-per
> l_0.1-2hamm1.deb dpkg: error processing
> /var/lib/dpkg/methods/mnt/l1/dists/slink/main/binary-i386/devel/dpkg-per
> l_0.1-2hamm1.deb (--install) Subprocess dpkg-deb --control
> returned error exit status 2 Error were encountered while
> processing:
> /var/lib/dpkg/methods/mnt/l1/dists/slink/main/binary-i386/devel/dpkg-per
> l_0.1-2hamm1.deb installation script returned error exit status
> 1 Press RETURN to continue.

> ... and then... nothing happens...


> Is this enough information for you to help me?

> Thanks in advance.



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Re: 3Dfx X Server and drivers

[Marshal Wong]

> "Kele" == Kele Kravelin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Has anyone gotten the 3Dfx drivers and X Server to work in
> Debian? they distributed the packages as rpm's and I couldn't
> get them to convert and install using alien and had problems
> using Debian's rpm package as well (gave me a bunch of file or
> directory doesn't exist and dependency errors).  I'm running
> 2.2.1 for a kernel with the latest stable packages for Debian.
> The card I have is a Voodoo3 2000. Any help would be
> appreciated.

I think the easiest solution right now is to get the 3.3.6 packages.
Add the following to your /etc/apt/sources.list

deb http://samosa.debian.org/~branden slink/

update, and download away.

Then wait a few months until potato gets out and hope for Xfree86 4.0
to get packages.  Or you could compile from scratch if you want...

Good luck.

Marshal

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Re: Sound Question

[Marshal Wong]

> "Jay" == Jay Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I am trying to setup a SoundBlaster16 sound card, I have
> recomplied the kernel for sound and pnp support. Now I see the
> howto is telling me to:

> Use pnpdump to capture the possible settings for all your Plug
> and Play devices, saving the result to the file
> /etc/isapnp.conf.  Choose settings for the sound card that do
> not conflict with any other devices in your system and uncomment
> the appropriate lines in /etc/isapnp.conf. Don't forget to
> uncomment the (ACT Y) command near the end.  Make sure that
> isapnp is run when your system boots up, normally done by one of
> the startup scripts. Reboot your system or run isapnp manually.

> 1) after using the 'pnpdump' how do I save it to the
> /etc/isapnp.conf.

pnpdump > /etc/isapnp.conf

> 2) Where do I uncomment the (ACT Y) command? I didnt see it.

Once get the information from pnpdump, it should be at the end of each
device configuration set.

A note, you may have problems with isapnp say that there are fatel
irq, and io errors, even if you know that that address is not being
used.  To fix this, add (ACT N) at the beginning of each device
section.  Let me know if you have problems.

> 3) How do I make sure the isapnp is run at bootup?

If there is a working /etc/isapnp.conf, it will be used at bootup.
There is a script that runs it.  This is for sure for potato.  I can't
remember if this is true for slink.

Good Luck

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Trying to figure out trigger for diald callouts

[Marshal Wong]

Hi!

I have diald setup and everything works pretty well, except for the
fact that I get random dial outs, even when I'm not doing anything
that requires me to be online.  I have found these triggers, and was
wondering whether anyone has a clue to what they might be from.

May 25 14:28:46 ul diald[178]: Trigger: tcp  64.10.92.140/1783   
64.28.67.57/80

May 25 19:02:03 ul diald[3681]: Trigger: udp   192.168.1.1/1119   
216.70.64.1/53

I have no idea what this address address is.  It's nothing that I've
ever seen before.

I've turned off the exim cron job.  I do have wwwoffle running in
autodial...

So any suggestions of clues would be appreciated.

Thanks.

Marshal

Re: Can't compile GTK programs in Slink

[Marshal Wong]

> "Cameron" == Cameron Matheson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hey, Whenever I try to compile GTK+ or GTK-- programs, It says
> it can't find glib-config.h.  I have the rest of the glib
> headers, so I don't know why I don't have this one.  Anyway,
> Does anybody know what package that file would be in?

You'll need the glib-dev, and gtk-dev packages.

Marshal

> Thanks, Cameron Matheson


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Re: X setup

[Marshal Wong]

> "Jay" == Jay Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hello.  I was wondering if anyone knows the setting (ie clock
> speed, etc.) for a Diamond Multimedia Vodoo2000 video card. Im
> trying to get it to working in X and am not sure the settings. I
> am also confused about the monitor settings, Im using a
> Veiwsonic 17E.  Any help will be greatly appreciated.

I'm not sure about the Diamond card (Is it a pass-through Voodoo2?),
but xf86config may have it in it's card database?

As for the monitor settings, search the web for "Net Monitor
Database".  (I can't think of the address right now.)  It should have
your monitor in it and all the infomation, especially the sync ranges.

Good Luck.

Marshal

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re-writing e-mail

[Marshal Wong]

Hey all!

A quick question.  Is there a way to rewrite e-mail addresses with
exim without having the rewritten domain being considered as local?
Am I making sense?

Okay, I'm setting up a professor's computer who is on the school's
LAN.  Mail is recieved via a IMAP server (I've setup fetchmail to
start on login).  Currently mail is sent via a mailserver.  (I'm not
sure whether it can be sent directly on the LAN.  Have to look at how
it was done before...)  In any case, I want to rewrite the outgoing
messages to have the following domain, po-box.mcgill.ca.  However, I
don't want that domain to be treated locally since my prof has to sent
e-mails to his collegues.  eximconfig does it this way, so any
messages sent to @po-box.mcgill.ca, bounce.  

So if anyone has the quick and dirty, I'd greatly appreciate it.
Otherwise I have a lot of RTFMs to do.  Thanks.

Marshal

Re: X color depth

[Marshal Wong]

> "Umum" == Umum Wijoyo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hello...  How can I set my X color depth to be more than 8 bpp
> (say... like 16 or 24)?

You need to set the DefaultColorDepth to 16 in /etc/X11/XF86Config.
Here's a sample from my file:

Section "Screen"
Driver  "svga"
# Use Device "Generic VGA" for Standard VGA 320x200x256
#Device  "Generic VGA"
Device  "Voodoo3 (generic)"
Monitor "My Monitor"
DefaultColorDepth 32 #<--You need to add this line with 16/24/32
Subsection "Display"
Depth   8
# Omit the Modes line for the "Generic VGA" device
Modes   "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
ViewPort0 0
# Use Virtual 320 200 for Generic VGA
EndSubsection
Subsection "Display"
Depth   16
Modes   "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
ViewPort0 0
EndSubsection
Subsection "Display"
Depth   24
Modes   "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
ViewPort0 0
EndSubsection
Subsection "Display"
Depth   32
Modes   "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
ViewPort0 0
EndSubsection
EndSection

Good Luck

Marshal

> Does this have anything to do with my video card config? (I
> think I've set up my S3 Savage 3D card correctly...)

> When we were still using RedHat 6.2, we had no problem: our X
> display was fascinating! It even looked better than Windows
> (shudder)! ;-p

> OK! Thanks!

> Urip Hudiono -- Bandung, Indonesia

> PS: Thanks for all the "how to close ports" answer...
> Geez... I'm always asking questions here...  I promise I'll
> "upgrade" from newbie as soon as possible... :-p


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Re: Getting X and 3dfx card to work... ???

[Marshal Wong]

> "Kenward" == Kenward Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hi!  I'm trying to optimize my X setup to use the 3dfx V. 3000
> card I just purchased, and have gotten confused over the
> differences between the debs. available for the card and the
> files mentioned at the linux.3dfx.com website.  I had wanted to
> try Quake as well, and that has been my testbed for whether
> things are working, which doesn't seem to be the case right now
> (see output below).

> I have installed libglide2-v3, 3dfxdevice-module, mesa3-glide2,
> glide2-base, and quake-3dfx.  The build and installation of the
> module seemed to go well, and I've put 3dfx in my etc/modules
> file to have it inserted on boot-up.

> At the linux.3dfx site they mention a version of X which is
> modified for 3dfx.  Is this needed for my system?  My confusion
> stems from debian having all these packages obviously targeted
> for the card, so one would think that other outside files are
> not needed.  Yet the Debian specific part at that site does talk
> about using the modified X system.

> I don't really mind downloading a 43 Mb file if that's what it
> takes (I need to sleep sometime anyway :) but want to be sure
> before I further modify my system.  The last thing I want is to
> wind up with a lot of useless, unwanted stuff floating around.

I believe that if you really want to get the power out of your card,
you'll have to download the xserver from the linux.3dfx.com site.  The
current xserver in debian potato is 3.3.6, while the one on 3dfx.com
is something like 3.9.x or maybe even 4.0.

I'm not sure about the libglide stuff though.  I don't believe they
have changed much recently...

> When I try to run quake-3dfx, I see the screen change, a
> cartoonish "3dfx" flashes by, then the system returns to the
> desktop. Following is what I see in the xterm window:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ quake-3dfx Removing symlink ./idsw/pak0.pak
> Removing symlink ./idsw/base ln:
> /home/daddy/.quake/./idsw/pak0.pak: File exists ourbase
> /usr/share/games/quake/idsw basename of ourbase idsw QuakeForge
> (UQuake) v0.1.1 Added packfile ./base/pak0.pak (339 files)
> FindFile: can't find gfx/pop.lmp Console initialized.  UDP
> Initialized Exe: 04:26:17 Feb 27 2000 16.0 megabyte heap video
> memory unprotecting GL_VENDOR: Brian Paul GL_RENDERER: Mesa
> Glide v0.30 Voodoo_Graphics 0 CARD/12 FB/4 TM/2 TMU/NOSLI
> GL_VERSION: 1.2 Mesa 3.1 GL_EXTENSIONS: GL_EXT_blend_color
> GL_EXT_blend_minmax GL_EXT_blend_logic_op GL_E XT_blend_subtract
> GL_EXT_paletted_texture GL_EXT_point_parameters GL_EXT_polygon
> _offset GL_EXT_vertex_array GL_EXT_texture_object
> GL_EXT_texture3D GL_MESA_windo w_pos GL_MESA_resize_buffers
> GL_EXT_shared_texture_palette GL_EXT_rescale_normal GL_EXT_abgr
> GL_SGIS_texture_edge_clamp GL_EXT_stencil_wrap
> GL_INGR_blend_func_s eparate GL_ARB_multitexture
> GL_NV_texgen_reflection GL_PGI_misc_hints GL_EXT_com
> piled_vertex_array GL_EXT_clip_volume_hint
> 3DFX_set_global_palette GL_FXMESA_glo bal_texture_lod_bias
> GL_EXT_texture_env_add Converting 8to24 8-bit GL extensions
> enabled.  Video mode 640x480 initialized.  You must be the owner
> of the current console to use svgalib.  Not running in a
> graphics capable console, and unable to find one.  svgalib:
> cannot get keyboard mode.  Error: keyboard_init() failed
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$

>From the error here, looks like you need to be in a console (not x), and as
root to run quake-3dfx, since it's using svgalib.

good luck.

Marshal

> Can someone set me on the proper path here?

> Kenward


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Networking - Linux gateway to internet for Mac

[Marshal Wong]

Hello Everyone!

I have a couple of questions.  (Of course I have a few questions.  Why else
would I be posting. :) )

1.  I'm networking together a iMac and my Linux box for a local
network.  I've managed to get the two computers talking to each
other now with netatalk and macgate.  I don't know how well they
are talking to each other, but at least file sharing is
happening.  What I'd like to do is to set the network up so that
the Mac can use the linux box as a gateway to the internet.  We
only have one phone line for the computer and the iMac doesn't
have a phone out jack, so I can't daisy chain the modems
together.  I'm a complete newbie at networking, so if someone
could give me a run down on more or less what to do, or what
manuals to read, I'd greatly appreciate it.

2.  Along the same lines, I'd like to harden the machine against the
outside world a bit.  I know I probably should put up a firewall,
but have no clue as to where to start.  Again any hints would be
great.

3.  A bit off topic, but has anyone had any expriences installing
GNU/Linux on IBM Aptivas?  Any show stoppers that I might have to know
about?  I have to install GNU/Linux onto a professors computer
Monday, and was just wondering how much patience to take along.  :)

I think that's it for now.  Thanks in advance.

Marshal

Re: Mouse not working in X

[Marshal Wong]

> "Richard" == Richard Ingram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hi, I'm using the out of the box VALinix/SGI/Gnu Debian at work,
> I installed X and it will not work with the logitech mouse, you
> have to play with gpm and X and get the right combination, I
> installed it at home about 3mnths ago and got my Logitech
> trackball working OK. Trouble is I have forgoten what it was I
> did and I need to know, I would boot up my machine at home but I
> have since changed my graphics card and need to reinstall Debian
> as it auto boots into X. I'm sure I found the solution on the
> web somwhere but it seems to have gone. Anyone know the correct
> solution, is it gpm -R and /dev/gpmdev in X or somesuch ?

I think the answer for you, if I understood you question, is to point
/dev/mouse to /dev/gpmdata, and point XF86Config to /dev/mouse.  Or
you can point XF86config to /dev/gpmdata directly.  I think you have
to make gpm repeat in "raw" mode so the information from the mouse
isn't being filtered twice.

Hope that helps

Marshal

> Thanks for any help.

> Richard.



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Re: Frozen, Potato or Woody?

[Marshal Wong]

> "montefin" == montefin  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> <...snip...>
> My partition table looks like this:

> / 50Mb 23Mb Available /usr 512Mb 190Mb Available /var 50Mb 21Mb
> Available /home 150Mb 56Mb Available swap 50Mb

> I've tried upgrading with apt-get, but it complains about too
> little space in /var. Will similar limitations arise with
> dselect ftp?

Yes, the same thing will happen, since dselect more or less uses apt.
You probably should link /var/cache/apt/archives to some bigger
partition.

Marshal

Re: pppconfig files

[Marshal Wong]

You probably have to edit /etc/ppp/peers/provider, and
/etc/chatscripts/provider.

>>>>> "Michael" == Michael Zielinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I used pppconfig to create my connection to my ISP.  My ISP is
> changing their dial-up numbers and I need to modify the file
> where the number resides.  I looked through /etc/ppp but I
> cannot find the file.  Is the file that pppconfig creates an
> editable text file?

> I know I can create a new connection with pppconfig, but I
> thought changing the number in the file would be easier!

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Re: kernel 2.2.14 and PS/2 mice

[Marshal Wong]

Actually, in potato, you can get gpm to port the mice data to
/dev/gpmdata and then just get X to read that, thus removing the need
to kill gpm.  It was broken for a while, but it works fine now.

>>>>> "Aaron" == Aaron Solochek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I have always just killed gpm from the init scripts, because gpm
> and X have never gotten along on my system.  Also a ps/2.  Its
> stupid, and dselect loves to reinstall the scripts, so that my
> mouse will either die as soon as dselect starts configuring
> stuff, or will go all crazy.

> -Aaron Solochek

> On Fri, 10 Mar 2000, Debian Linux User Gary L. Dolan wrote:

>> On Fri, Mar 10, 2000 at 08:22:38AM -1000, Jason Christensen
>> wrote: > I have no problems with a PS/2 mouse & 2.2.14.  > > On
>> 10 Mar 2000, Joachim Trinkwitz wrote: > > > The boot messages
>> tell me that a PS/2 mouse port is found, but the > > cursor
>> doesn't follow the mouse at all.  > > Under what circumstances
>> are you talking about, X or console? If you're > talking about
>> the console, make sure you're running gpm.  > > > > > Is there
>> a trick, some other kernel options as in older kernels ...?  >
>> > > > No trick for me. You may want to review your kernel
>> configuration. It's > possible that your old config file has
>> some slight differences to configs > for 2.2.14 regarding PS/2
>> mice.
>> 
>> I have the same problem, in the x console. I thought perhaps it
>> might be XF86 3.3.6 that is the problem. I re-compiled kernel
>> 2.2.14, and the problem persists. Basically, the ps2 mouse is
>> frozen in the x window; i.e., it reacts much like the old bus
>> mouse problem.  So now I kill gpm when invoking x, then use
>> startx gpm -R -m /dev/psaux -t ps2 and the mouse works fine in
>> x.
>> 
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Re: keymappings screwed

[Marshal Wong]

run kbdconfig if you can manage to type it...

>>>>> "Kendall" == Kendall Shaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> How do I fix my console keymappings? I chose standard US
> keyboard during install of potatoe but various keys are in
> different places.


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Re: device3dfx-module?

[Marshal Wong]

>>>>> "Kelly" == Kelly Corbin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> dselect gives me the error message "device3dfx-module does not
> appear to be available" when getting the voodoo3 stuff.  I
> haven't seen anyone address this problem in deselect
> specifically in the archives for 2.2 (potato).  Does anyone know
> the workaround for this.  I have created and installed the 3dfx
> module and it is running as a module.  Thanks.

Did you use kernel-package to make a module package, and install that?
This solves the dependancy problem.

> Kelly Corbin

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Re: Stupid X question

[Marshal Wong]

You have to edit /etc/X11/XF86Config.

>From my XF86config

# The Colour SVGA server

Section "Screen"
Driver  "svga"
# Use Device "Generic VGA" for Standard VGA 320x200x256
#Device  "Generic VGA"
Device  "Voodoo3 (generic)"
Monitor "My Monitor"
DefaultColorDepth 32  <-- You have to add this line.
Subsection "Display"

You can change the number to 8, 16, 24, 32.

>>>>> "Hausheer," == Hausheer, Geoffrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> How do I get X to automatically boot to 16bpp (or 24, or 32)?  I
> have been using a '-bpp 16' switch on the command line (or
> soetimes an alias), but what if I want to use xdm?  I have
> looked through all of my linux documentation, howtos, faqs,
> man-pages, etc, but couldn't find this anywhere.  Please help.

> Thanks, Geoffrey Hausheer


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Re: Boot problems.

[Marshal Wong]

I believe someone mentioned just earlier on the list that you need to
boot using the terca boot images for the Athlon.  Try searching the
archives within the last week or so.

>>>>> "Nick" == Nick Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hi i'm having problems Installing Debian. It freezes during the
> boot sequence. I've tried booting from the CD and from the
> rescue floppy but it always fails.

> Boot sequence detects: hda - main harddisk hdb - linux harddisk
> hdc - Installation CDROM hdd - DVD-ROM ide0 - then linux sets
> the IRQ and some other HEX.  ide1 - same as above fd0- it finds
> the floppy drive md drive 0.36.3 MAX_MD_dev=4, MAX_REAL=8  this point if i'm booting from the rescue disk, the
> installation>  screen> sym53c416.c : version 1.0.0 DC390: 0 adapters found  i'm booting from CD-ROM it fails here>

> i'm lost any ideas?

> my computer is a polywell:

> Poly 800K7 ATX Motherboard Athlon 700MHz 128K L1/512K L2 Cache
> 128MB SDRAM Seagate 28GB Ultra DMA/66 IDE 7200RPM Hard Drive HP
> 8x4x32 CD-RW 9000i Toshiba DVD-ROM Soundblaster Live 256 voice
> Nvidia GE-Force 256 4xAGP graphics card Sigma Hollywood hardware
> MPEG2 card LinkSys 10/100 etherfast card


> any help would be appreceated.

> -Nick
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Re: compiling new kernel

[Marshal Wong]

486/33 8MB 2.0.36

>>>>> "Daniel" == Daniel Reuter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

    > Hello there, On 7 Mar 2000, Marshal Wong wrote:
 
>> If I may inquire, why are you trying to compile a 2.2.x kernel
>> for a i386?  That's going to hurt.  I compiled a 2.0.x kernel
>> on my old 486 and it took over 5 hours!

> What kind of kernel did you compile, and on what kind of
> machine?  I compiled a 2.0.36 kernel twice on 486 machines: One
> on a machine with Intel 486DX2 @ 75 MHz with 8MB RAM: This took
> about 55 Minutes.  The second on a machine with Cyrix 486SX @
> 66MHz with 24 MB RAM. This took about 25 Minutes, though the
> kernel was a bit larger, with more networking drivers included.

> Greetings, Daniel



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Re: new install with apt-get

[Marshal Wong]

you can edit you /etc/apt/sources.list.  Try adding/editing:

deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free

If you don't want to use unstable, change it to stable.

I believe that I understood you question correctly?  If not, well,
correct me.

>>>>> "Brett" == Brett Fowlkes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Some of the packages on the Debian Cd are outdated.  Is there
> anyway I can put in a source when I install Debian that will
> download all the newest ones?  I have a fairly fast connection.

> Thanks,

> Brett


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Re: compiling new kernel

[Marshal Wong]

>>>>> "Beavis" == Beavis  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> i am trying to compile the kernel 2.2.14 on to my i386 machine
> please help if u can, thnakx

>  update:

>  after doing make bzImage, it starts to compile, which takes
> about 10 mins or so right.  then at the end it says:
>>
> as86 -0 -a -o bbootsect.o bbootsect.s make[1]: as86: Command not
> found make[1]: *** [bbootsect.o] Error 127 make[1]: Leaving
> directory '/usr/src/linux-2.2.14/arch/i386/boot' make: ***
> [bzImage] Error 2
>>

ul:/etc/dhcpc# dpkg -S /usr/bin/as86
bin86: /usr/bin/as86

Which means that you need to install the bin86 package.  

If I may inquire, why are you trying to compile a 2.2.x kernel for a
i386?  That's going to hurt.  I compiled a 2.0.x kernel on my old 486
and it took over 5 hours!  

Well, hope this helps.
>  why is this happening?  i went over a redid the make menuconfig
> and even checked to make sure it saved properly .config in
> /usr/src/linux-2.2.14
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> > this is what i am doing: > > > >Once that is all done and you
>> choose "Exit" and save your config file, you > must >run make
>> dep followed by make clean. And now the fun begins, type make >
>> >bzImage to build your kernel. This will take awhile (15mins+)
>> so go browse > >our site a little and send us some feedback
>> ;). Instead of make
> bzImage,
>> > you >can also do make zdisk which will write your kernel to a
>> floppy
> disk
>> > instead.  > >Now that it's done, you have to do make modules
>> followed by make > >modules_install and that should be it for
>> the Kernel if all goes well.  Now > it's >time to set up
>> LILO. First you have to move the newly created
> Kernel
>> > to >your /boot directory. Do this by typing cp >
>> /usr/src/linux->2.2.x/arch/i386/boot/bzImage
>> /boot/vmlinuz-2.2.x. Next would > be to move >the System.map
>> file to your /boot directory. Do that by
    > typing
>> > >cp /usr/src/linux-2.2.x/System.map /boot/System.map-2.2.x.
>> > > ..but i get > > cp:
>> /usr/src/linux-2.2.14/arch/i386/boot/bzImage: No such file or
>> directory > > any ideas?  >
>> 


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Re: DSL client configuration?

[Marshal Wong]

I'll need a bit more info to help you.  What version of Debian are you
running?  Slink or Woody?  What type of DSL connection do you have?
Does it use DHCP or pppoe?  And finally, how far along are you,
(configuration-wise)?  What can't you do?

If you can answer some of these question, we can see if we can help you.
>>>>> "Steve" == Steve Doerr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Does anybody know what configuration files are involved in
> setting up a DSL client?  I can't seem to find everything I need
> to point my ethernet card to my DSL connection.

> Any sample configurations for a single user DSL service
> connection would be greatly appreciated!

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Re: minimized icons?

[Marshal Wong]

Are you using enlightenment?

Marshal
> "ethan" == ethan mindlace fremen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Debians, When I was using slink, the minimised icons for
> netscape were what I expected- the blue triangle with a wheel,
> or mail icon.  This was neat because the mail icon would change
> when I had new mail.

> Now, with potato, they're all little black spiders.  Is there
> any way to change it back to it's previous behaviour or where
> are the icon files?


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Re: pause page

[Marshal Wong]

What command are you using?  If you are using something like "cat
text.file" try the command "less text.file".

Marshal
> "Beavis" == Beavis  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> sometimes i try to read the help files, but they come down to
> fast

>  

> how do you pause the scrolling text?

>  

> the pause/ break button doesn't seem to respond

> i know this is a dumb question, but maybe somebody will get a
> good laugh!

Re: What happened to e-conf?

[Marshal Wong]

You have to copy /usr/share/enlightenment/config/keybindings.cfg (if
you're using a debian system, which I'm assuming) to
~/.enlightenment and edit it by hand.  Sorry, I guess they haven't had
time to work on e-conf for 0.16.

Marshal
> "Cyrus" == Cyrus Patel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hi all, I just installed E on a new computer and found out that
> e-conf is not in the unstable dist anymore. I used to change my
> key bindings using this tool.

> Is there now an alternative way to change my key bindings?  I
> checked all the E settings menus and I couldn't find a way.

> Thx in advance, Cyrus


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Re: How do I give a 'clear' command when leaving kdm/X?

[Marshal Wong]

I'm not sure how this works with kdm, but if you use bash, you can
have a file called .bash_logout in your home directory with the
command '/usr/bin/clear'.  This will clear the screen everytime you
logout.  Actually, you can put practically anything here.  Bash just
sources it on logout.  Don't know how it works with kdm though.

My 2 bits.

Marshal
> "Phillip" == Phillip Deackes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> How do I issue a 'clear' command to the terminal so that when I
> leave kdm to shutdown or reboot I have a clean text screen? I
> need to do this to clear up some screen corruption which
> responds to 'clear'.
  
> Cheers.


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Re: Upgrading my kernel

[Marshal Wong]

You can download the 2.2 kernel-image, or you can download the
kernel-source.  I suggest using kernel-package to make kernel
packages if you want to roll your own.  Nice and simple, and you can
uninstall, etc...

Good Luck.

Marshal
> "Cameron" == Cameron Matheson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hey everyone, I found out that if I upgrade my kernel to 2.1
> (right now I'm using Debian Slink with the 2.0.36 kernel) I can
> use my HP 3100c scanner.  Is it safe/possible to upgrade my
> kernel, and if I can, would I get the kernel source off the
> debian website or what?

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Re: installation prob

[Marshal Wong]

try decompressing the file on to your hard disk and then using the
command "dpkg --merge-avail /Packages"

I couldn't get dselect to work either, but this is a work around.
Apperently dpkg can't read compressed files.

Marshal

> "sheri" == sheri cregger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I've been trying to install Debian on a 486 laptop with floppies
> copied from the Debian site onto my desktop computer(I have no
> cdrom drive on the laptop).

> Installing the base system went really well, but when I try to
> use dselect to add more packages, I run into trouble. Dselect
> prompts for the packages file from the main folder at the Debian
> site, but that file is too big to fit on a floppy (I think it's
> 1.6 megs).

> I've tried the packages.gz file and that doesn't work.  I've
> also tried decompressing the packages.gz file on the laptop hard
> drive and getting dselect to read it from there, but I couldn't
> figure out how to do it.

> I know I must be missing a really obvious solution, but I'm
> stumped. I've read every applicable FAQ and saw no reference to
> this problem, so maybe you guys can help. My question is: how
> can I install more packages from the floppy drive?

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Re: Emacs configuration on slink

[Marshal Wong]

> "Dave" == Dave MacCallum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I would like to configure emacs so that I get text-mode and
> auto-fill-mode as defaults.  The O'Reilly book on emacs
> (excellent as usual) instructs me how to do this by adding a few
> commands to the end of the .emacs file to be found in the user's
> directory.

> There is no such file in my user directory.  (I'm using slink.)
> Should I create one containing just those commands?

Yep.  Just create one in your home directory.  Unless you want
everyone to have those options turned on.  Then you have to edit (or
add) one of the files in /etc/emacs/site-start.d/, I believe.

You can also do this in emacs itself by using the customization
commands on the menu-bar.  But it's just easier to write the .emacs
file.

Enjoy!

Marshal

> Is this .emacs file located elsewhere in slink?  I poked around,
> but could not find it.

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Re: GRUB Anyone?

[Marshal Wong]

I don't believe that installing the package makes grub as your
boot-loader.  At least, that was when I tried quite a few months ago.
I was also unable to got grub to boot Linux, but I didn't try very
hard.  I was more interested in booting HURD.

Now, that wasn't very helpful at all! :)

Marshal
> "Parrish" == Parrish M Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Has anyone tried to use grub on a potato dist?  I just
> downloaded and installed the package (wich seems to co-exist
> with lilo) but I haven't rebooted yet... I'm a little
> apprehensive to reboot.  Any problems I can learn from?

> thanks.

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Re: enlightenment control-panel?

[Marshal Wong]

> "Robert" == Robert L Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I just nuked my RedHat box and installed Debian.  Since I
> installed debian I've been re-installing things like
> Enlightenment.  I can't seem to find the enlightenment
> configuration tool though.  I checked enlightenment.org but no
> sign of it there.

> What package to I need?

You'll have to get the enlightenment and related packages (duh! ;))  I
guess the question is, what version of Debian are you using?  If
you're using 2.1 (slink), I do suggest upgrading to frozen (woody).
2.1 has 0.14 enlightenment, which is very out of date, unless that's
what you're used to.  frozen has the new 0.16, and it has the
configuration tool.  Just right click on the desktop.

Hope this helps.

Marshal
> Robert

> :wq!
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Re: gdm

[Marshal Wong]

Oki DZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On 20 Feb 2000, Marshal Wong wrote:
> > It looks like that the package listing and the actual files are not in sync.
> > You probably have to wait a bit to let the files and the package listing 
> > sync
> > up.  All I can say, try again tomorrow
> 
> Well, I tried that last Friday, and also this morning.
> Or, should I do "apt-get update"?
> 
> Oki

Yep!  esound is up to 0.2.17-3, and I haven't had any problems
updating lately.  However, I use ftp.debian.org.

Marshal

Re: gdm

[Marshal Wong]

Oki DZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

It looks like that the package listing and the actual files are not in sync.
You probably have to wait a bit to let the files and the package listing sync
up.  All I can say, try again tomorrow

Marshal

> Hi,
> 
> I'm trying to install gdm, but it seems that apt-get couldn't get libesd0
> and esound. What's the problem with the distribution site?
> Here's the output:
> bdg:/home/okidz# apt-get -b --fix-missing install gdm
> Reading Package Lists... Done
> Building Dependency Tree... Done
> The following extra packages will be installed:
>   esound gnome-bin libesd0 libgnome32 libgnomesupport0 libgnomeui32
>   libgnorba27 libgnorbagtk0 
> The following NEW packages will be installed:
>   esound gdm gnome-bin libesd0 libgnome32 libgnomesupport0 libgnomeui32
>   libgnorba27 libgnorbagtk0 
> 0 packages upgraded, 9 newly installed, 0 to remove and 87 not upgraded.
> Need to get 81.4kB/857kB of archives. After unpacking 2131kB will be used.
> Do you want to continue? [Y/n] 
> Err http://http.us.debian.org frozen/main esound 0.2.17-1
>   404 Not Found
> Err http://http.us.debian.org frozen/main libesd0 0.2.17-1
>   404 Not Found
> Failed to fetch
> http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/frozen/main/binary-i386/sound/esound_0.2.17-1.deb
>   404 Not Found
> Failed to fetch
> http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/frozen/main/binary-i386/libs/libesd0_0.2.17-1.deb
>   404 Not Found
> 
> Oki
> 
> 
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Re: none

[Marshal Wong]

"TaoX { Brian Hinson; }" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> ok.. here is the lamest question ever, but I have tried and tried to find
> the answer myself with no luck.. I just signed up on this list and this is
> my first time to ever be on a list like this, but the question or problem
> is... when I send messages for help I get responses... but I have yet to see
> a question from anyone else? Am I supposed to check something, like a pop
> server or news server? or are they emailed to me? I just don't know what or
> where to go/do to see other people messages for this list...
> 
If you subscribed to this list, you should be getting dumps of
e-mail in whatever e-mail account you subscribed with.  And at times,
it really dumps!

Marshal


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Unidentified subject!

[Marshal Wong]

I find that installing the slink base from CD (i.e. going through the
whole install process.  not picking any task-packages, and going
through deselect choosing the defaults.) and then changeing the
source.list for apt to unstable, and then using dselect to update and
install the packages works well.

Marshal

From: "Jason Winters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: 
Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 12:44:49 -0800

> what is the best way to install potato?

Re: sound as non-root?

[Marshal Wong]

You need to log out and log back in to make the group changes take
affect.  Just stating the semi-obvious.

Marshal

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: sound as non-root?
Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 15:08:47 -0500

> 
> 
> Hmm. If rbf is added to /dev/audio group, it looks like this should work. 
> There
> may be a better way to do this, and maybe this won't work at all, but I wonder
> if you need to reboot? I'm not sure if /etc/group is only read at boot or not.
> 
> Michael Heyes
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Ron Farrer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 12/14/99 03:00:16 PM
> 
> To:   Mike Heyes/LincolnFP/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> cc:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
> 
> Subject:  Re: sound as non-root?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> 
> > what are the permissions on /dev/dsp?
> 
> $ l d*
>0 crw-rw1 root audio 14,   3 Oct 22 12:02 dsp
>0 crw-rw1 root audio 14,  19 Oct 22 12:02 dsp1
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> 
> TIA,
> 
> Ron
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Re: Error installing Emacs20 in Potato

[Marshal Wong]

For the emacs20 error, I think you need to make the directory
/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/dpkg-dev and copy debian-changelog-mode.el
into it from /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/dpkg.  I though that this
problem was fixed already.  Anyways, see if that helps.

Marshal

From: "John R. Sheets" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Error installing Emacs20 in Potato
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 21:32:15 +

> I've been getting this error for a couple weeks, and it's keeping me
> from installing a bunch of other stuff.  Anyone know what the problem
> might be?  Here's what I have installed (more or less):
> 
> $ dpkg -l | grep emacs
> rc  emacs19 19.34-23   The GNU Emacs editor.
> iF  emacs20 20.4-3 The GNU Emacs editor.
> iU  emacs20-el  20.4-3 GNU Emacs LISP (.el) files.
> ii  emacsen-common  1.4.9  Common facilities for all emacsen.
> ii  gnuserv 2.1alpha-5 client/server addon for the emacs
> editor
> ii  xemacs20-bin20.4-14Editor and kitchen sink -- support
> binaries
> ii  xemacs20-nomule 20.4-14Editor and kitchen sink -- Non-mule
> binary
> ii  xemacs20-suppor 20.4-14Editor and kitchen sink --
> architecture inde
> 
> Here's the excerpt from dselect:
> 
> 
> 
> Wrote /etc/emacs20/site-start.d/00debian-vars.elc
> Wrote /usr/share/emacs20/site-lisp/debian-startup.elc
> Done
> install/dpkg-dev: Byte-compiling for emacs20
> /usr/lib/emacsen-common/packages/install/emacsen-common-install: cd:
> /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/dpkg-dev: No such file or directory
> emacs-install:
> /usr/lib/emacsen-common/packages/install/emacsen-common-install emacs20
> xemacs20 failed at /usr/lib/emacsen-common/emacs-install line 28.
> dpkg: error processing emacs20 (--configure):
>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 29
> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of emacs20-el:
>  emacs20-el depends on emacs20 (= 20.4-3); however:
>   Package emacs20 is not configured yet.
> dpkg: error processing emacs20-el (--configure):
>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
> Errors were encountered while processing:
>  emacs20
>  emacs20-el
> 
> installation script returned error exit status 100.
> Press RETURN to continue.
> 
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Re: dhcp

[Marshal Wong]

Install dhcpcd.  I think that should be enough.

Marshal

From: Dave Wiard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: dhcp
Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 20:19:23 -0800 (PST)

> i just moved to a new place today where i no longer have a static ip, but
> will be given a dynamic ip.  could somebody clue me in on what needs to be
> changed or where to look?
> 
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Re: Alsa and 2.2.13

[Marshal Wong]

Did you try using alsa-source to compile a custom kernel module?

Marshal

From: Mark Blunier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Alsa and 2.2.13
Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 14:15:13 -0600 (CST)

> I'm trying to recompile the 2.2.13 kernel with alsa.  My custom
> kernel conflicts with alsa-modules-2.2.13, and I've tried
> the kernel-image-2.2.13_2.2.13-2.deb, but it also conflicts,
> (>> 2.2.13-1).  Is an old version of 2.2.13 available, or
> better yet, what do I need to do to be able to compile a
> kernel package that doesn't conflict with alsa modules?
> 
> Thanks
> Mark Blunier
> 
> 
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Re: voodoo3 3000

[Marshal Wong]

Cool!  xf86config didn't give that resolution as an option, so I
thought that my monitor couldn't handle it, but it can of course since
Win 95 does.  I just added it in, and it works!

Thanks.

Marshal

From: Sean Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: voodoo3 3000
Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 08:42:29 +

> I told it to? I just added it to the list of resolutions that I wanted
> to be supported via xf86config for each color depth. I hand edited the
> /etc/X11/XF86Config file to make 32bpp my default color depth, and
> voila.
> 
> The potato SVGA X-Server works just fine with this (I'm running potato
> as well, and have been for quite a while). The only reason I switched to
> the one from 3dfxgamers.com is for a few dgamouse bugfixes that effect
> things like Q3. Other than that, they appear to be pretty much the same.
> 
> Sean
> 
> Marshal Wong wrote:
> > 
> > How did you get 1280x1024x32bpp on your V3 2000?  I'm only able to get
> > 1024x780x32bbp on mine.  Mind you I'm using the x-server that comes
> > with potato.
> > 
> > Marshal
> > 
> > From: Sean Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: voodoo3 3000
> > Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 22:31:57 +
> > 
> > > I have a V3 2000, and I use the SVGA X-Server available from
> > > www.3dfxgamers.com. I believe it is a modified 3.3.5 SVGA X-Server.
> > >
> > > Oh, and it works fine here ... I run at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > > Sean
> > >

Re: Changing Enlightnment Netscape icons

[Marshal Wong]

Right click in the icon box and choose this iconbox settings.

Marshal

From: John Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Changing Enlightnment Netscape icons
Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 14:42:25 +0000

> Marshal Wong wrote:
> > 
> > If you using the enlightenment in potato,(which I assume you're using
> > since that's the one that gives the spider icon.), change the iconbox 
> > settings.
> > Change Icon image display policy to "Use application icon, "
> > 
> > Marshal
> 
> This is me first experience with enlightnemnt. I checked the E. control
> settings area. Where is the Icon image display policy settings located.
> Thanks for the help!
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Re: Changing Enlightnment Netscape icons

[Marshal Wong]

If you using the enlightenment in potato,(which I assume you're using
since that's the one that gives the spider icon.), change the iconbox settings.
Change Icon image display policy to "Use application icon, "

Marshal

From: John Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Changing Enlightnment Netscape icons
Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 04:28:35 +

> I do not like the spiders used as Netscape icons in enlightenment.
> Anyone know how to change them? Thanks!
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Re: voodoo3 3000

[Marshal Wong]

How did you get 1280x1024x32bpp on your V3 2000?  I'm only able to get
1024x780x32bbp on mine.  Mind you I'm using the x-server that comes
with potato.

Marshal

From: Sean Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: voodoo3 3000
Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 22:31:57 +

> I have a V3 2000, and I use the SVGA X-Server available from
> www.3dfxgamers.com. I believe it is a modified 3.3.5 SVGA X-Server.
> 
> Oh, and it works fine here ... I run at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Sean
> 
> Nathan York wrote:
> > 
> > i have a voodoo3 3000 and was wondering if anyone knew the correct xserver
> > to run with iti have tried the generic Voodoo3 it gives me the SVGA
> > server, but this is seemingly not working...or at least not at the
> > resolution and bpp i wantany help is appreciated.  oh, and i got my
> > apt-get problem with QM_MODULES solved.
> > 
> > thanks,
> > craz
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Re: Problem with apt-get

[Marshal Wong]

If you have a http proxy, you can set the $http_proxy environment to
the proxy address, or you can add it into /etc/apt/apt.conf.  Check
apt.conf(5) for more details.

Marshal

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Problem with apt-get
Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 12:39:26 +0100 (CET)

> Hi,
> 
> Can anyone tell me how I can get apt-get to go through a proxy.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Graham
> 
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Voodoo3 and mesag3-glide

[Marshal Wong]

Well, after 2 days of fiddleing, compiling and recompiling, I finally
got mesag3-glide to compile and installed it.  Things work good.  Most
of the demos that come with mesa work, and q3demoTEST also works,
kinda.  It's a bit jerky, and I don't know why.  Don't know whether
it's my computer, or something else.  Anyways, for those of you who
might be interested, I've attached a text file describing what I did.
It goes into a bit of detail, since I aimed it at newbie level, so
please don't be offended if it seems to go into excrusating detail.
Any comment and suggests are also welcome.

Marshal

1. Download, compile, and install device3dfx-source.  I have a custom
kernel with both alsa and device3dfx modules.  kernel-package is so
nice.  
2. Compile and install the Glide2x Packages.  The glide3x package
doesn't work with Mesa-3.0.  
i. Download source RPM from 
http://linux.3dfx.com/open_source/download/srpm/Glide_V3-2.60-10.src.rpm.
ii. Have alien and rpm installed.
iii. Install source rpm.  rpm -i Glide_V3-2.60-10.src.rpm.
This should install the sources under in /usr/src/redhat.
iv. edit /usr/src/redhat/SPECS/Glide_V2-2.60.spec.
a. Change the line 
  export CC=i386-glibc20-linux-gcc
   to
  export CC=gcc
b. Change the line
  export CC=egcs
   to
  export CC=egcc
Here are my diffs.
 /usr/src/redhat/SPECS$ diff Glide_V3-2.60.spec Glide_V3-2.60.spec~
 36c36
 < export CC=gcc
 ---
 > export CC=i386-glibc20-linux-gcc
 42c42
 < export CC=egcc
 ---
 > export CC=egcs
v. Make sure that you have xlib6g-dev installed.
vi. build the rpms.  rpm -ba
/usr/src/redhat/SPECS/Glide_V2-2.60.spec.
vii. assuming that works (I hope I haven't forgotten
anything.  I didn't write it down when I did it.) you should
have Glide_V3-2.60-10.i386.rpm and Glide2x_SDK-2.1-10.i386.rpm
sitting in /usr/src/redhate/RPMS/i386.  Debianize these with
alien.  alien Glide_V3-2.60-10.i386.rpm and 
alien Glide2x_SDK-2.1-10.i386.rpm.
viii. Install the debs.  dpkg -i glide-v3_2.60-11_i386.deb and
dpkg -i glide2x-sdk_2.1-11_i386.deb.
3. Now download and compile the mesag3 package.
   i. make sure that you have as deb-src line in
   /etc/apt/sources.list.  I have
deb-src http://ftp.ca.debian.org/debian stable main contrib
non-free.
   ii. get the source as root, otherwise the permissions will not be
   right.  In fact, do all of the following as root.
   apt-get source mesag3
   iii. cd mesa-3.0/debian
   iv. rename rules.bak to rules and control.bak to control.  Take
   appropriate backup precautions.  (Well, you don't have to.  You can
   always just re-download the source.  But it's good practice anyways.)
   mv rules.bak rules
   v. edit rules.  remove the comments from the first three lines
   after ifeq ($(ARCHITECTURE), i386).  Here are the diffs.
 /usr/src/mesa-3.0/debian# diff rules~ rules
 51,53c51,53
 <   # ( cd src && make clean && make linux-386-glide && make clean 
&& make linux-386-glide-static )
 <   # ( cd src-glu && make clean && make linux-386-glide && make 
clean && make linux-386-glide-static )
 <   # mv lib/libMesa* lib/glide
 ---
 >   ( cd src && make clean && make linux-386-glide && make clean 
&& make linux-386-glide-static )
 >   ( cd src-glu && make clean && make linux-386-glide && make 
clean && make linux-386-glide-static )
 >   mv lib/libMesa* lib/glide
vi. make rules executable.  chmod +x rules
vii. cd .. (Change back into the mesa-3.0 directory)
viii. Make mklib.glide5 executable.  chmod +x mklib.glide5
ix. Make sure that you have the following package installed.
  lesstif-dev
  libc5
  libc5-altdev
  altgcc
x. compile the package.  In the mesa-3.0 directory
dpkg-buildpackage -b
and wait.  Well, on a P200MMX it's quite a wait.
I get the following error at the end of all this waiting.
  dpkg-deb: control directory has bad permissions 2755 (must be >=0755 
and <=0775)
  make: *** [binary-arch] Error 2
To fix this I changed the permissions of
mesa-3.0/debian/tmp/DEBIAN to 0755.
chmod 0755 debian/tmp/DEBIAN (from the mesa-3.0
directory.)
To finish off you have to manually run the debian/rules
makefile from the mesa-3.0 directory
make -f debian/rules binary
 xi. Now you should have the following debs in the directory above
 mesa-3.0:
mesag3_3.0-1_i386.deb
mesag-dev_3.0-1_i386.deb
mesag3-glide_3.0-1_i386.deb
  

Re: Mozilla warnings

[Marshal Wong]

I think it's expected.  The Mozilla you're using is M9, which is
really outdated and barely usable, in my opinion.  Don't know why
there aren't any new debs.  Probably because the maintainer's to
busy.  Oh well.  

Marshal

From: Hans Ekbrand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Mozilla warnings 
Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 20:33:51 +0100

> Hi!
> 
> When I start Mozilla a get the following warning:
> 
> "Warning: Actions not found: BtnUp, BtnDown
> XFE_ToolbarItem::setBaseWidget(urlBar)"
> 
> When Mozilla opens some dialog-boxes the following warnings occur:
> 
> "Warning:
>   Name: categoryList
>   Class: XmLGrid
>   Attempt to destroy dropSite info for widget that hasn't been added as a 
> dropSite.
> 
> Warning:
>   Name: List
>   Class: XmList
>   Parent refused resize request. Second XtMakeGeometryRequest() failed 
> Parent is ListSW (XmScrolledWindow)
> Original request w 138 h 79, Second request w 134 h 77 Parent size 134 100
> 
> [truncated]"
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Are these warnings to be expected or is something missing?
> 
> 
> I have installed Mozilla, as well as the rest of my system from the first of 
> the two CDs that contains Debian v 2.1 r3.
> 
> 
> yours
> 
> Hans Ekbrand
> 
> 
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Re: isapnp problems?

[Marshal Wong]

Well, IRQs are always a headache.  But if humans can't do it, do you
think computers can do it better?  look at /proc/interrupts and
/proc/ioports to see what your system is taking.  (You probably know
that already.)

Anyways, back to the problem.  My first suggestion is to change the
following line in isapnp.conf

L42 > (CONFIGURE ROK4120/305419896 (LD 0

to

(CONFIGURE ROK4120/305419896 (LD 0 (ACT N)

See if that clears things up.  This resets the card.

Good luck!

Marshal

Re: Mule for emacs20

[Marshal Wong]

Thanks!  Worked like a charm!

Marshal

From: Jinsong Zhao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mule for emacs20
Date: 06 Dec 1999 11:01:18 -0800

> In emacs20, you don't need mule: it's part of emacs20. However, I'm
> not sure if Debian version contains the leim package. You can download
> and compile your self and make sure to include the leim package.
> 
> For GB, you need add one line in the .emacs:
> (set-language-environment 'Chinese-GB)
> 
> and the following in your .Xdefaults:
> 
> emacs.font: fontset-16
> emacs.Fontset-0: -*-fixed-medium-r-normal-*-16-*-*-*-*-*-fontset-16, 
> chinese-gb2312:-cclib-song-delicate-r-normal-*-16-*-*-*-*-*-gb2312*-*, 
> ascii:-*-screen-medium-r-normal--16-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
> 
> You can adapt the above settings to BIG5. Also, make sure the fonts
> are in your X window system.
> 
> I'm able to read both GB and BIG5 files.
> 
> Jinsong
> 
> 
> 
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Re: How to disable xdm

[Marshal Wong]

Actually, you should just uninstall the xdm package.

The last time I tried, gdm worked like a charm.  Just installed the
package and the next boot up it used gdm.

Marshal

From: Svante Signell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How to disable xdm
Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1999 01:43:52 +0100 (CET)

> Howdy,
> 
> When installing Xwindows the default setup is to start X using
> xdm. Obviously initialization was not placed in /etc/inittab, it was
> placed in /etc/rc[2,3,4,5].d/S99xdm and /etc/rc[1,6/K01xdm. If I want
> to start in text mode and move to X by startx, is it sufficient to
> remove the scripts at the corresponding runlevel?  (Runlevel 2?)
> 
> What about using  gdm/kdm instead of xdm?
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
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Re: isapnp problems?

[Marshal Wong]

You may want to remove the (CHECK) from the end of the lines which
configure the IO addresses.  If you could send me the error messages,
I could tell you for sure.  Actually, you're whole isapnp.conf file
would be helpful too.

Marshal

From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: isapnp problems?
Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1999 08:56:36 +

> Sorry for the legth of this one.
> I`m using potato and a 2.2.13 kernel. I`ve had a working modem for ages under 
> slink, but a floppy and an ethernet card that refused to work because of irq 
> and io errors so last night I tried to sort it out finally. It seems that 
> pnpdump --config had grabbed the floppy`s irq for the modem so I just did a 
> fresh pnpdump without uncommenting isapnp.conf and the floppy worked fine. 
> However when I tried to reconfigure the modem it only gave me the option of 
> irq3 which didn`t work or irq5 which was taken by the network card.
> After a lot of reading and teeth gnashing I gave up and removed the ethernet 
> card as it is unessential so as to put the modem back on irq5 where it always 
> was before. Now on boot isapnp tells me that that there`s a fatal error 
> trying to check the io because it`s already in use but the modem works fine.
> Is the kernel already doing isapnp`s job and if so can I get rid of isapnp 
> altogether or am I misunderstanding something again. :-)
> 
> Thanks 
> 
> Paul 
> 
> 
> 
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Mule for emacs20

[Marshal Wong]

Could anybody help me on getting mule to work for emacs20.  I want to
be able to read and write chinese characters, but everytime I get a
BIG5 encoded e-mail, all the chinese characters come out as square
boxes (under X).  It works under Xemacs, but I would like to stay
GNU.  Any suggestions?  I have task-chinese-s and task-chinese-t
installed already.  

The first thing is being able to read chinese.  Input I will worry
about later.  Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Marshal

Non-fatal (i think) Error messages while loading modules

[Marshal Wong]

I'm getting the following error messages when I first, boot up.
Anyone know what they might mean, and how to fix them?

Loading modules: vfat /lib/modules/2.2.13/fs/fat.o: cannot create 
/var/log/ksymoops/19991018051253.ksyms No such file or directory
/lib/modules/2.2.13/fs/vfat.o: cannot create 
/var/log/ksymoops/19991018051253.ksyms No such file or directory
lp /lib/modules/2.2.13/misc/parport.o: cannot create 
/var/log/ksymoops/19991018051253.ksyms No such file or directory
parport0: PC-style at 0x378 [SPP,ECP,ECPPS2]
insmod: /lib/modules/2.2.13/misc/parport_pc.o: cannot create 
/var/log/ksymoops/19991018051254.ksyms No such file or directory
parport0: no IEEE-1284 device present.
insmod: /lib/modules/2.2.13/misc/parport_probe.o: cannot create 
/var/log/ksymoops/19991018051254.ksyms No such file or directory
lp0: using parport0 (polling).
/lib/modules/2.2.13/misc/lp.o: cannot create 
/var/log/ksymoops/19991018051254.ksyms No such file or directory
ne2k-pci /lib/modules/2.2.13/net/8390.o: cannot create 
/var/log/ksymoops/19991018051254.ksyms No such file or directory
ne2k-pci.c:vpre-1.00e 5/27/99 D. Becker/P. Gortmaker 
http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/linux/drivers/ne2k-pci.html
ne2k-pci.c: PCI NE2000 clone 'RealTek RTL-8029' at I/O 0x7f80, IRQ 9.
eth0: RealTek RTL-8029 found at 0x7f80, IRQ 9, 00:80:C8:DD:7B:3B.
/lib/modules/2.2.13/net/ne2k-pci.o: cannot create 
/var/log/ksymoops/19991018051254.ksyms No such file or directory
ppp CSLIP: code copyright 1989 Regents of the University of California
/lib/modules/2.2.13/net/slhc.o: cannot create 
/var/log/ksymoops/19991018051254.ksyms No such file or directory
PPP: version 2.3.7 (demand dialling)
PPP line discipline registered.
/lib/modules/2.2.13/net/ppp.o: cannot create 
/var/log/ksymoops/19991018051254.ksyms No such file or directory


I have tons of space in /var.  There are other .ksyms
in /var/log/ksymoops.  I don't know why they can't be created now.

Thanks!

Marshal

Re: Mail disappearing into the ether

[Marshal Wong]

From: "Dwayne C . Litzenberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mail disappearing into the ether
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 22:01:59 -0600

> Sorry if this isn't much help, but running eximconfig again might help.
> 
> On Mon, Nov 15, 1999 at 07:51:10PM -0800, Marshal Wong wrote:
> > Hello everyone,
> > 
> > I just found out this morning that no mail is leaving my computer, which is
> > really odd.  I'm writing this on a web-based e-mail, so please excuse the 
> > ='s
> > at the end of each line.
> > 
> > After looking through my exim log, I came upon something funny.  I seem to
> > have the domain name iceman.mutsumi.or.jp, when it isn't.  It should be 
> > either
> > localhost, sympatico.ca, or bellglobal.com.  Here, I'll give you a sample.
> > 
> > 22:11:40 11nZ1w-0002to-00 <= [EMAIL PROTECTED] H=debian (localhost)
> > [127.0.0.1] P=esmtp S=582 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 22:11:41 11nZ1w-0002to-00 => [EMAIL PROTECTED] R=smarthost T=remote_smtp
> > H=smtp1.sympatico.ca [209.226.175.139]
> > 22:11:41 11nZ1w-0002to-00 Completed
> > 
> > I have no idea where this name came from.  Just a brief background, I'm 
> > using
> > DHCP on Sympatico HSE (ASDL).  I was e-mailing properly probably up to a 
> > week
> > or so ago when I subscribed to the debian-hurd list.  I'm using exim.  I can
> > receive mail, via fetchmail.  Everything else works fine, www, ftp, ICQ.  
> > Just
> > not sending out.  
> > 
> > Any help would be appreciated.
> > 
> > Marshal
> > 
> > 
> > Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1
> > 
> > 
>  
> -- 
> "I already have all the latest software."
>  -- Laura Winslow, "Family Matters"
> 
> Dwayne C. Litzenberger - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Please always Cc to me when replying to me on the lists.
> 
> Advertising Policy: http://DLitzPower.tripod.com/spamoff.htm
> GnuPG Public Key:   http://DLitzPower.tripod.com/gpgkey.asc
>  Fingerprint:   0535 F7CF FF5F 8547 E5A5 695E 4456 FB6C BC39 A4B0

Thanks, I found out the problem.  I'm using mew and I didn't change
one of the configuration files (/etc/im/SiteConfig).  The SMTP servers
weren't finding the domain, so they weren't sending the messages.

Marshal

Mail disappearing into the ether

[Marshal Wong]

Hello everyone,

I just found out this morning that no mail is leaving my computer, which is
really odd.  I'm writing this on a web-based e-mail, so please excuse the ='s
at the end of each line.

After looking through my exim log, I came upon something funny.  I seem to
have the domain name iceman.mutsumi.or.jp, when it isn't.  It should be either
localhost, sympatico.ca, or bellglobal.com.  Here, I'll give you a sample.

22:11:40 11nZ1w-0002to-00 <= [EMAIL PROTECTED] H=debian (localhost)
[127.0.0.1] P=esmtp S=582 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
22:11:41 11nZ1w-0002to-00 => [EMAIL PROTECTED] R=smarthost T=remote_smtp
H=smtp1.sympatico.ca [209.226.175.139]
22:11:41 11nZ1w-0002to-00 Completed

I have no idea where this name came from.  Just a brief background, I'm using
DHCP on Sympatico HSE (ASDL).  I was e-mailing properly probably up to a week
or so ago when I subscribed to the debian-hurd list.  I'm using exim.  I can
receive mail, via fetchmail.  Everything else works fine, www, ftp, ICQ.  Just
not sending out.  

Any help would be appreciated.

Marshal


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Re: Cannot print after kernel upgrade

[Marshal Wong]

From: "David J. Kanter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Cannot print after kernel upgrade
Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 18:14:15 -0600

> I upgraded my kernel with the 2.2.10 image. Now I cannot print.
> 
> During boot-up, I noticed what was once a message about lp1 is now about
> lp0:
> 
> > parport0: no IEEE-1284 device present.
> > lp0: using parport0 (polling).
> 
> I can send a job to lpd, but nothing happens; it sits in the queue.
> 
> I have used lpc to stop/restart my printer, but still I cannot print to lp1,
> even though magicfilter is set up for lp1.
> 
> Any ideas?
> -- 
> David J. Kanter
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> "Humans have an innate tendency to attribute significance to anomalies
> and coincidences."
>   -- John Allen Paulos, mathematics professor at Temple University
> 
> 
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If I believe right, what was lp1 in the 2.0.x kernel is now lp0 in the
2.2.x.  Does adjusting for this fix things?  Also for IEEE-1284 to
work you need the printer on and the printer port must be ECP or EPP.
Hopefully this helps a bit.

Marshal

Building a mesag3-glide package

[Marshal Wong]

Could anyone help me with this problem.  I'm trying to get my Voodoo3
working with Mesa.  I've compiled mesa by hand, but I would like to
make a package.  I tried using dpkg-build but it didn't recogonize the
debian director (It wanted DEBIAN) and when I gave it that, it didn't
understand the control file.  Any help would be appreciated.

Marshal

Re: X in potato with a 3dfx card

[Marshal Wong]

The Voodoo3 is supported by the X in potato.  It's card 644 in the
card listings in xf86config.  It works.  Still a few funny things,
like leaving behind lines when moving windows in twm, or when using
the animated minimizing in Enlightenment, but besides that, it works.

Marshal

From: "Noah L. Meyerhans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: X in potato with a 3dfx card
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 14:57:41 -0500 (EST)

> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> 
> Does the version of X included in potato support the 3dfx Voodoo3 card?
> It wasn't included in the list of cards supported in XF86Setup.  If it is
> supported, which server do I need?  I have the special 3dfx beta server on
> my slink installation (the one that's only distributed in .rpm format),
> which I could try compiling on my potato installation, but I'd rather get
> something a bit more 'official' if such a thing exists.
> 
> Thanks,
> Noah
> 
>   PGP Public Key available at http://www.morgul.net/~frodo/mail.html 
>   or by `finger -l [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> 
> 
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
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> Charset: noconv
> 
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> 17wNrMAkRg86YnwL/ojHp19dlCuXdjVLBlXVA0Ky0/xHuAPLdZc6oBZuJkr1U8e9
> dEcgY7DxxJdTcpL1l9ZQ3ATp080RJ4cfFXx7ucslB7qvepXN6yKW594NsZA97B5J
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Re: Anybody from Canada here who use Sympatico ADSL????

[Marshal Wong]

Are you sure that turned off there DHCP servers?  I still run DHCPcd
here in Montreal, and it works fine.  

In anycase, search freshmeat for PPPoE.  There are 2 user programs
that implement PPPoE for the 2.2.x kernels.  I didn't find them very
good though.  Lots of problems getting dropped, by one end or the
other.  PPPoE is going to be in
the 2.4 kernel, so if you're brave, you might want to try the 2.3 kernel.

So good luck.

Marshal

From: Uurcus the Swale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Anybody from Canada here who use Sympatico ADSL
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 23:00:26 -0800 (PST)

> Sorry if this is offtopic for this list, but I'm at my wits' end.
> 
> I'm from Toronto and I use Sympatico's High Speed Edition ADSL service...
> Recently they've switched to PPPoE and today they disabled their DHCP servers.
> Argh... what a long day... what's worse, they officially do NOT support Linux,
> and the only thing they could come up with was to provide the NTS PPPoE client
> (which was *user-level*, very CPU-intensive, and buggy and poorly written.)
> 
> I searched dejaNews and managed to find a kernel patch for a PPPoE driver, and
> I managed to get the connection working fine for my Linux box. But there are a
> few other machines that connect to my box (I use IP masquerade) running
> windows, and they just can't seem to retrieve webpages properly.
> There have been mentions of the problems stemming from MTU's -- I've tried
> setting all the MTU's I can find to a small value (1200-1300), on my Linux
> box, on the other windows machines, but the windows machines STILL can't
> retrieve webpages correctly. FTP works fine, ping works, DNS services work,
> and even some simple webpages appear to work. But places like Yahoo, the
> Debian site, just doesn't load at all (or only loads the first few lines of
> HTML and stops).
> 
> Anybody can help Thanks!
> 
> 
> U
> 
> 
> =
> ()()
> "Don't modify spaghetti code unless you can eat the consequences."
> `--'
> __
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com
> 
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Re: How can I find specs on my monitor?

[Marshal Wong]

From: Ethan Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How can I find specs on my monitor?
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 18:16:49 -0800

> On 21/10/99 jh wrote:
> 
> >I am trying to set up x. I keep running xf86config but I do not know the
> >specs for my monitor. It is a Micron monitor model # m14fg. I have gone to
> >Micron's home page but they do not list this old monitor. Does anyone have
> >any ideas?
> 
> I was wondering why Debian's X config tool does not have a list of 
> monitors like redhat's Xconfigurator, yes  long list can be clumsy 
> but its sure beats trial and error when you get a monitor from 
> someone with no documentation whatsoever and no idea what the refresh 
> rates are...
> 
> I had to copy the numbers from my redhat XF86Config file made by 
> Xconfigurator to get it right...
> 
> 
> 
> Best Regards,
> Ethan Benson
> To obtain my PGP key: http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/pgp/
> 
> 
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Try the Net Monitor Database.

http://www.griffintechnology.com/monitor.html

Marshal

ALSA sound modules not loading

[Marshal Wong]

I'm using the latest potato right now.  The ALSA source compiled fine.
I used make-kpkg to install the modules.  But for some reason the
module won't start.  Every time I run /etc/init.d/alsa start, I get
the following.

Starting sound driver: snd-card-interwave /etc/init.d/alsa: line 10:  7070 
Segmentation fault  /sbin/modprobe $line >/dev/null 2>&1
failed.

To get this, I had to edit the file /etc/init.d/alsa to awk
/etc/modules.conf as opposed to conf.modules, since the new potato has
finally removed the old style conf.modules.  

a lsmod right after gives:
Module  Size  Used by
snd-cs4231 16876   0  (unused)
snd-mixer  24768   0  [snd-cs4231]
snd-pcm1   16604   0  [snd-cs4231]
snd-timer   7772   0  [snd-cs4231 snd-pcm1]
snd-midi   12524   0  (unused)
snd-pcm 8844   0  [snd-cs4231 snd-pcm1]
snd33612   0  [snd-cs4231 snd-mixer snd-pcm1 snd-timer 
snd-midi snd-pcm]
soundcore   2340   0  [snd]
ppp20012   0  (unused)
slhc4280   0  [ppp]
ne2k-pci4040   1 
83906068   0  [ne2k-pci]
parport_pc  5700   1  (autoclean)
lp  5092   0 
parport 7048   1  [parport_pc lp]
vfat8956   0  (unused)
fat28768   0  [vfat]

I can manually "modprobe snd-card-interwave" and it gives me no error,
so I have no idea what's going on.  

Any help would be appreciated.  Thanks.

Marshal

chroot

[Marshal Wong]

has anyone tried to use this command?  I'm trying to build a
personalized distribution and need this command so set things up.  I
think I need it anyways.  Whenever I try to us it, I get

chroot: cannot execute /bin/bash: No such file or directory

I put bash in $NEWROOT/bin/ but no go either.  documentation's a bit
sparce also.

Any help would be appreciated.

Marshal

procps vs. bsdutils in unstable

[Marshal Wong]

I really don't know where I should post this, but I guess here would
be as good as any.  The latest procps package is overlapping with
bsdutils.  Namely /bin/kill is overlapping.

Okay.  Thanks.

Marshal

PPPoE aka. PPP over Ethernet

[Marshal Wong]

So Sympatico, or Bell Canada, has decided to be a bitch and implement
PPPoE or, as the title shows, PPP over Ethernet.  Has anyone ever
heard of such a thing?  And the main question is, drum roll please,
how can I get it to work over Linux?  I'd really hate to lose this
ADSL.  It's been running quite smoothly lately, since the upgraded
DHCPCD automatically updates IP addresses.  Anyways, if anyone has any
clues, hints, suggestions, solutions,  PLEASE let me know.  If more
information is needed, let me know and I'll see what I can squeeze out
of tech support.

Thanks!

Marshal Wong

apt package listing error.

[Marshal Wong]

I was just using dselect to try to update my potato box, when I got
this message while doing a "[U]date".

Reading Package Lists... Error!
E: Malformed Priority line
E: Error occured while processing aleph-dev (NewVersion1)
E: Problem with MergeList 
/var/state/apt/lists/http.us.debian.org_debian_dists_unstable_main_binary-i386_Packages
E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
update available list script returned error exit status 100.


Has the package listing format changed recently?  I do tend to keep
this box really up to date.  Usually update once a day.  

Marshal

Re: Multiplexing /dev/dsp

[Marshal Wong]

I'm pretty sure that the version of mpg123 in unstable works with
esd.  (I run it.)  I also use 2.2.12, but I use the alsa-drivers.

Marshal

3dfx module and Quake 3 Arena

[Marshal Wong]

I was wondering what the 3dfx module form 3dfx-source does.  I have a
Voodoo3 and I installed the module, but I don't know what it is used
for.  Any help?

I guess in general, how is a 3d card used by linux?

Finally, has anyone installed Quake 3 Arena on a Debian box?  If so,
how did you do it?

Marshal

Debianizers

[Marshal Wong]

I was wondering whether there is a group of people out there that just 
go around debianizing programs.  Like bleeding edge programs.

I seems to me, since RedHat is probably the most popular, or at least
most famous, distribution, only RPMs are made of many packages.  Sure, 
you can use alien to debianize a package, but does alien put the files 
into places that follow the debian file-system policy, or does it just 
take the file locations straight from the RPM?  The problem with the
latter, is that after a while, you get a lot of cruft in the file
system, and the file system becomes a bit unorganized, especially with 
config files and such.  So it would probably be better to make .debs 
from the source, or tarballs.

What goes into the making of .deb packages?  And are there
ramifications for makeing .debs out off commercial packages, say for
example Quake3Arena (which is what really brought this up.), and
Metrowerks Codewarrior.  

Anyways, any ideas would be appreciated.

Marshal

Proxies

[Marshal Wong]

Here's one for you network guys and girls.

I have an ADSL.  The thing is, I'm behind a http proxy.  Is there a
way so that all programs that use http will use the proxy.  I've set
the HTTP_PROXY environment, but it doesn't seem to work.  For example, 
dselect, or more specifically, apt, does not seem to be able to find
the sites it needs if using http.  Thus I have to use ftp.  But if
there is a way to make all programs, or at least most, use the proxy,
that would be even better.  Any suggestions?

Marshal