Re: Graphical sftp
-- R.Stepanyan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Thursday, 12 June 2003, 05:36 PM +0200): > I am looking for a graphical frontend for scp and/or sftp. > All I found on the Internet (freashmeat&goole) is either not supported > anymore (like gsftp) or java-based and very unstable (j-ftp). Ummm... gftp supports sftp just fine, and is still supported quite well (it's even been ported to gtk2). -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://matthew.weierophinney.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Shell script or Perl?
-- Chun Kit Edwin Lau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Thursday, 12 June 2003, 09:48 AM -0400): > In what situation does ppl normally use shell script and when > when will ppl use Perl? How about their performance like speed and also > the ease of programming? Use what you're comfortable with, and use the tool that fills your need best. For instance, I'm comfortable with perl. One aspect of it I particularly like is that it is also very portable: I don't have to worry about which shell is available on which system; I can use the same language to create a quick shell script, a GUI application (using GTK or TK), or a web interface. However, it also means that if I'm performing system calls of any kind, I have the additional overhead of opening a shell. Shell programming is very nice for quick scripts that string together commands or add logic to commands. As such, the only overhead is the shell you already use. However, it may not be as portable. Some will swear by python, ruby, or even PHP (which, when compiled as a CGI, can be run as a scripting language from the command line). Find the language that suits your needs. -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://matthew.weierophinney.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: /etc/profile and X
-- David Fokkema <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Thursday, 12 June 2003, 01:10 PM +0200): > Yes, I searched through the archives and read some of the comments. > However, they don't tell me exactly what's going on... > > /etc/profile is read by a login shell, and not by starting an xterm. Of > course, so far, so good... However, when I log in to X, doesn't > xdm/kdm/gdm run a login shell which then starts xinit or something like > that? Apparantly not, because if I export a variable from /etc/profile, > I don't see it in X. What does xdm/kdm/gdm do then? > > So, how do I set a variable like CUPS_SERVER=nebula so that it is set > during a console login _and_ during an X login? Not sure what shell you're using, but in bash, I do the following: 1) In $HOME/.bashrc (this could be in the profile somewhere; I don't manage a large system), I set and export any environment variables I need in my login shell. 2) In $HOME/.bash_profile, I have the following lines at the top of the file: # Get the aliases and functions if [ -f ~/.bashrc ]; then . ~/.bashrc fi 3) In $HOME/.xsession (which is called by xdm, gdm, and kdm), I add the very same lines above at the top of that file, before any specific items needed for the xsession. Doing the above means I only need to change one file when I want to change my environment, and ensures that that environment is available whenever and whereever I'm working (login shell, non-login shell, and X session). -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://matthew.weierophinney.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Good Open Source Web Development software
-- Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Tuesday, 10 June 2003, 01:42 AM -0700): > On Tue, Jun 10, 2003 at 02:10:45AM -0400, lists1 wrote: > > It works heavily toward w3c standard compliant code (and if you look at the > > top 100 sites, I doubt 10% of them are 100% standards compliant, and if you > > have 100% standards compliant, you'll be excluding over 90% of the browser > > users on the internet). > > No you wouldn't, because all the browsers out can decently render a > 100% compliant page. I've yet to find a browser that can't. Not to be too contrary here, but if you've ever played with absolute and relative positioned elements and written 100% standards compliant HTML and CSS to do so, you absolutely MUST have found a browser that can't decently render it. It's called Netscape 4.x. Doesn't matter which platform (windows, *nix, mac), it simply is a buggy browser with bad support for standards. IE4 is only slightly better; IE5 only slightly better than that; at least with these browsers, you'll still be able to *see* all the content, which is not necessarily the case with NN4. Just my 2 cents as a (often frustrated) web developer. -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://matthew.weierophinney.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Running GTK Apps in Enlightenment
-- SYNeR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Tuesday, 10 June 2003, 05:33 PM +1000): > probably a very easy question. But i don't know the answer. Anyways.. > I installed Debian 3.0r1 base system on my box. Then from there, i > built it up as i liked (started by upgrading to 2.4.20, then Xfree86 > 4.2.0)... I'm currently running Enlightenment.. Enlightenment menus > and windows are themed, although when I run an application like xchat > which i presume runs on GTK, I just get the window border themed, with > the contents of the window (buttons, background,text, etc..) all just > an ugly, bulky grey. Actually, xchat *isn't* GTK -- it uses standard X libs, which are typically not all that appealing to look at. No way to theme them, really, without doing a lot of stuff in config files. > How abouts do i go using GTK themes so GTK apps look fine in > Enlightenment? Is it possible without having to install and apply > themes in GNOME? Apply a theme. There's a pachage called 'gtk-theme-switch' with a program called 'switch' that will allow you to apply GTK1 themes; you can also grab a more recent source tarball from www.muhri.net that will allow you to switch GTK2 themes. As for how you make them 'look fine', simply browse on themes.freshmeat.net and try and find one to your tastes. You may also need to install some additional theme engines (most should be available via apt-get). -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://matthew.weierophinney.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Good Open Source Web Development software
-- Kevin Griffis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Monday, 09 June 2003, 02:03 PM -0400): > I would like to eventually do all my web development on my Linux laptop and > ditch FrontPage altogether. I am planning to build a site on a LAMP machine > and was wondering what Open Source web design tools are out there for > Debian. Does anyone have any recommendations? There's a ton. They're called editors. No, really. There aren't any real WYSIWYG-style web development tools for linux, not free, anyways. (Quanta Gold, from TheKompany, is a commercial product; I haven't used it, though, so I can't comment on it.) As for which editors you might want to use... For a GUI editor, there's BlueFish (gtk+ application) and quanta (KDE application; this is *not* quanta gold), and the mozilla composer. For GUI text editors (general purpose, not just web), kate (KDE advanced text editor), nedit (a motif-based editor), and others are available. For more traditional commandline editors, you might want to check out vim and/or emacs. vi and/or vim is often the only thing around when you telnet or ssh to another server, so it's not bad to learn at least basic vi commands. And if you run 'apt-cache search editor', you're bound to come up with dozens. Choose the one that fits your needs. I use vim... ;-) -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://matthew.weierophinney.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XFCE4 Beta 1
-- flubie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Monday, 09 June 2003, 12:00 PM +0200): > Does anybody know whether XFCE Beta 1 is available in .deb package ? If yes, > where can I get it? Supposedly Martin Loschwitz has been keeping the xfce4 packages current in unstable; however, I noticed today that the packages are from CVS from about 6 weeks ago. However, since beta 1 was only released Saturday, he may still be packaging. Check back in a day or two. Alternatively, there is an excellent script written that will download all modules (or a selected list of modules) from CVS, build, and install them; you can get that script at ftp://ftp.unix-ag.org/user/bmeurer/xfce4/update-xfce . -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://matthew.weierophinney.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DVDs reproduction a little "slow"
-- Sara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Saturday, 31 May 2003, 06:26 PM +0200): > I wondered if anyone knew anything I could do to improve the reproduction of > DVDs. Trying different players (Ogle, Xine, Vlc), and running them even as > root, I always have the same problem: the images "freeze" a little. I can > watch the DVD, but it's a little annoying. > > I have plenty of memory and a fast processor, so I don't think that's the > problem :). Anyway, I've noticed that the process associated to the DVD > player does use a low porcentage of the total system memory. I've tried to > run the players as root and happens the same. Are you reproducing a DVD, or are you trying to _watch_ a DVD? your description sounds like the latter (reproducing a DVD implies copying). Check out hdparm and using it to turn on DMA on your DVD drive. Your computer is new enough that it's almost certainly capable of DMA, and a simple instruction like 'hdparm -d /dev/dvdrom' (or whatever your device is mapped as) in your boot scripts will make a world of difference. -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://matthew.weierophinney.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: about startx
-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Tuesday, 27 May 2003, 10:47 PM +0800): > On Tue, May 27, 2003 at 08:58:32AM -0500, Kent West wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > >Well, this script is actually in ~bin/, and I have set the $PATH correct > > >as I can run other self-write script successfully. > > >What seems weird is that after I run that script and use > > >$ ps -ecl|grep startx > > >to test, I find the startx is running, but the window doesn't show up. > > >What else should I test? > > > > > > > > > > Okay; I'm seeing the same behaviour here.: > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/westk/BIN> cat sx > > #!/bin/bash > > echo Script is running > > startx -- :1 > /dev/null 2>&1 & > > echo Script is running > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/westk> sx > > Script is running > > Script is running > > > > but no starting of X. > > > > However, removing the final ampersand on the startx line, so it becomes > > this: > > startx -- :1 > /dev/null 2>&1 > > > > does work. > > > Yes, it does. But I'm still eager to know what's wrong with it, as I can > start other programs with & in the script. > Anyway, thanks a lot, it does save me some type. I'm guessing that X doesn't like to be backgrounded, or that it *is* running in the background. It may even be running -- try doing an 'Alt-F7' once you've started the script to see what happens -- if you go to X, then I suggest simply removing the '&' (which backgrounds the command) from the script. -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://matthew.weierophinney.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: resizing root partition
-- Frank Gevaerts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Friday, 04 April 2003, 10:21 PM +0200): > On Fri, Apr 04, 2003 at 02:04:09PM -0500, Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote: > > -- Frank Gevaerts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > > > find usr|cpio -pmd /mnt/newusr > > should be > > cd /usr > find . | cpio -pmd /mnt/newusr > > or you will get /mnt/newusr/usr/ > > > What does this do? I've used find before, but I'm not familiar with the > > '-pmd' options; man doesn't elaborate on them, either. > > -pmd are options for cpio. Basically, it copies all files listed on > standard input to the directory /mnt/newusr (p=passthrough, m=modify > timestamp, d=create directories as needed). The net result is the same > as cp -ar, but that one is not available on all unix systems > The real way of doing this is of course: > > cd /usr > find . -print |cpio -o |(cd /mnt/newusr;cpio -ivmd) > > This should work on any unix system you find. Thanks for the clarification -- I'd though 'usr|cpio' was an or'd regexp; this makes *much* more sense now. Thanks for the help... off to parted my drive and move /usr to the new partition! -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://matthew.weierophinney.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: resizing root partition
-- Frank Gevaerts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Friday, 04 April 2003, 07:31 PM +0200): > On Fri, Apr 04, 2003 at 11:13:20AM -0500, Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote: > > When I originally created my disk partitions, I figured 3GB would be > > plenty for my root partition, and gave the rest of my 30GB disk over to > > my /home partition. However, my root now shows 90% usage, and I'd like > > to expand it -- or move my /usr area off onto another partition. Is this > > possible, and if so, can somebody point me to a howto? > > The easiest way is probably to put /usr somewhere else. A possible way > is: > > make a new partition and filesystem for /usr How do I do this on an already partitioned disk? parted? > make a directory /mnt/newusr > mount the new partition at /mnt/newusr > cd / > find usr|cpio -pmd /mnt/newusr What does this do? I've used find before, but I'm not familiar with the '-pmd' options; man doesn't elaborate on them, either. > umount /mnt/newusr > init 1 (go to single-user) > cd / > mv usr usr.old > mkdir usr > mount the new partition at /usr > change /etc/fstab > (optional) reboot and check that everything works (after changing > partition tables, it is always a good idea to reboot to see if the > system comes up correctly. If you reboot 3 months later and it doesn't > work, you won't remember why) > rm -rf /usr.old That make sense, and it's the route I'd like to go (I don't see much need to expand the root partition so much as to allow a larger /usr area). -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://matthew.weierophinney.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: resizing root partition
-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Friday, 04 April 2003, 12:40 PM -0500): > On Fri, 4 Apr 2003 11:13:20 -0500 > Matthew Weier O'Phinney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > When I originally created my disk partitions, I figured 3GB would be > > plenty for my root partition, and gave the rest of my 30GB disk over to > > my /home partition. However, my root now shows 90% usage, and I'd like > > to expand it -- or move my /usr area off onto another partition. Is this > > possible, and if so, can somebody point me to a howto? > > With enough money and drive space just about anything is possible. > > Since we don't charge for advice here, so you don't need to worry about > money. :) > > How much free (unallocated) hard drive space do you have? fdisk shows the following info: Disk /dev/hdc: 30.0 GB, 30020272128 bytes 16 heads, 63 sectors/track, 58168 cylinders Units = cylinders of 1008 * 512 = 516096 bytes Device BootStart EndBlocks Id System /dev/hdc1 * 1 5817 2931736+ 83 Linux /dev/hdc2 57921 581681249925 Extended /dev/hdc3 5818 57920 26259912 83 Linux /dev/hdc5 57921 58168124960+ 82 Linux swap /dev/hdc1 is my root partition, and is, as you see, around 3BG; /dev/hdc3 is my /home partition, and runs around 25GB. I allocated around 128MB to swap (/dev/hdc5). Can I repartition this drive? The /home partition currently shows only 29% usage (about 50% of which will be thrown on to CD-R shortly). -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://matthew.weierophinney.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
resizing root partition
When I originally created my disk partitions, I figured 3GB would be plenty for my root partition, and gave the rest of my 30GB disk over to my /home partition. However, my root now shows 90% usage, and I'd like to expand it -- or move my /usr area off onto another partition. Is this possible, and if so, can somebody point me to a howto? -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://matthew.weierophinney.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Does anyone know an application that ....
-- dave selby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Thursday, 03 April 2003, 08:23 PM +0100): > I neet an ftp transport program to get my masterpeices from my drive to the > ftp site. Mozilla will do this one page at a time, I need to move directories > to ftp. Idealy some GUI, I tried axyftp-gtk, it hangs with lots of GTK > errors, does anyone else have this problem? Shame it looks easy to use. Try gFTP. -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://matthew.weierophinney.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Shell based text editor for writing prose
-- John Griffiths <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Thursday, 03 April 2003, 10:58 AM +1000): > Due to a somewhat complicated set of circumstances I'm looking for a > decent non graphical shell based text editor to write prose with. > > - - basically i want to be able to ssh onto my server and write from a > number of remote locations. > > I know Debian is blessed with a plethora of programs that can do this, > what I'm after is a recommendation for something that feels good to > write with. > > in a perfect world I'd like decent cut and paste, command characters for > end of word/start of word, and export to a human readable open format. vim, emacs, pico, nano, ... these are all text editors. How you format your text is up to you. (This was written in vim.) -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://matthew.weierophinney.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Graphical SSH/SFTP client for KDE?
-- JS Bangs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Monday, 31 March 2003, 11:59 AM -0800): > This there a good client for joined ssh/sftp sessions that runs under KDE > that Debian supports? I've searched through the listings that dselect > gives me and googled, but nothing leaps out. AxyFTP looks rather crude and > doesn't clearly say whether or not it supports SFTP, and kdessh doesn't > run on my computer for some reason. Basically what I'd like is a Linux > version of the Windows SSH client, which costs money but is provided free > by my university :-). gFTP definitely does sftp -- but not a joined ssh/sftp session (by which I take it to mean that you have a term at the bottom for an ssh shell when logged in for sftp?) If you just need an ssh shell, fire up a console (konsole in KDE) and ssh to the server using 'ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED]'; you can do this at the same time that you've got gftp up if you can't find another graphical FTP client that's SFTP capable. -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://matthew.weierophinney.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ide-scsi
-- Christof Hurschler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Tuesday, 25 March 2003, 10:34 PM +0100): > newbie quesiton, I'm running 2.4.-18-k6 from the deb in woody: > > how can I keep ide-scsi from grabbing all my cdroms and zip i.e. > > Attached devices: > Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 00 > Vendor: IOMEGA Model: ZIP 100 Rev: 14.A > Type: Direct-AccessANSI SCSI revision: > Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 01 Lun: 00 > Vendor: IDE-CD Model: R/RW 8x4x32 Rev: C1.3 > Type: CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02 > Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 02 Lun: 00 > Vendor: MIDA Model: 40XB Rev: FA16 > Type: CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02 > > actually I want it to leave my cdrom and zip alone and just attach my cdrw You'll need to load the modules you want them to run under first. I'm not sure how the zip drive should be accessed, but I know that with my setup, I have my dvdrom drive under ide-cd. I made a file in /etc/modutils called 'cdmedia' with the following: options ide-cd ignore=hda pre-install sg modprobe ide-scsi pre-install sr_mod modprobe ide-scsi pre-install ide-scsi modprobe ide-cd where hda is my dvdrom drive. This way it gets mapped to ide-cd before ide-scsi can take over. ide-scsi used to have a similar ignore option, but I haven't had luck using it. -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://matthew.weierophinney.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Transferring Digital Camera Images
-- Thomas H. George <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Sunday, 23 March 2003, 08:20 AM -0500): > I have a Sony DSC-S75 digital camera which has a usb port. The manual > states the images are stored in JPEG format and the accompanying > software for Windows installs the camera as an additional hard drive so > the images may be copied to the computer's hard drive. > > Naturally, I would prefer to do this running Debian Linux. Any > suggestions as to how to do this? 1. Grab the 'usbmgr' and 'hotplug' packages via apt. (These packages provide support for most USB devices and for attaching while the computer is up and running, respectively; they make it 'automagical' so you don't have to take care of all the details of your specific devices.) 2. Connect your camera to the computer via the USB cable. 3. Check your /proc/bus/usb tree to see where it's connected (or check /var/log/kern.log). Most likely it will be attached to /dev/sda1. 3. Create a mount point, such as /mnt/camera 4. Make an entry in /etc/fstab to mount it: /dev/sda1/mnt/camera vfatuser,rw,noauto,unhide 1 0 5. Mount it with 'mount /mnt/camera' And from there you can grab the images! -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://matthew.weierophinney.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Making PDF document in KWord
-- Aryan Ameri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Wednesday, 19 March 2003, 11:06 AM +0200): > When I want to make a PDF document with KWord (Using print menu), KWord is > able to make a pdf file, but the result is crappy, many words are not in > their original position, and all in all, it is unreadable. However, making > PostScript files works fine, but anyway, windoze users can't view PS files. If the PS file looks fine, try using ps2pdf and see if that works. (I actually use watchd to watch a directory to which I print PS files; watchd then converts them to PDF. This works well for 95% of my needs.) -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://matthew.weierophinney.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mutt manual.txt.gz strange escapes
-- Christopher Swingley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Tuesday, 18 March 2003, 07:50 AM -0900): > What's the appropriate way to view the Mutt manual > (/usr/share/doc/mutt/manual.txt.gz)? > > My mutt (1.5.3-3, from sid) has a macro defined: > > zcat /usr/share/doc/mutt/manual.txt.gz | sensible-pager > > which pages the manual through less. I see lots of escape characters, > which makes it really hard to read: > > Usage: charset-hook ESC[4maliasESC[24m ESC[4mcharsetESC[0m I just use 'zless /usr/share/doc/mutt/manual.txt.gz'. For 'less', I've used the traditional less tool as well as the less.sh VIM script; both have worked for me. -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://matthew.weierophinney.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pdfs and mutt
-- Emma Jane Hogbin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Tuesday, 18 March 2003, 07:59 AM -0500): > > More information on the situation...I noticed the attachment line in > "v"iew doesn't have the right info... > > A 2 Program.pdf [applica/octet-stre, base64, 170K] > > Things that do work have applica/whateveritis > > All of my PDF attachments have octet-stream...is that because it's not > reading from mailcap or something else? Okay, that explains a lot. Grab the following script: http://www.davep.org/mutt/mutt.octet.filter.pl make it executable, and put the following line in your .mailcap: application/octet-stream; /path/to/mutt.octet.filter.pl %s; copiousoutput And that should fix your problems! -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://matthew.weierophinney.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pdfs and mutt
-- Emma Jane Hogbin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Monday, 17 March 2003, 10:01 PM -0500): > On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 06:44:00PM -0500, Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote: > > In your ~/.mailcap file, try: > > application/pdf; xpdf %s; nametemplate=%s.pdf > > Same problem: the PDF opens in mutt (i.e. I see the innards of the file, > not the actual PDF). And yes, I've tried saving the PDF and opening it > --it's not a corrupt file. Not sure what to say; this works fine for me. You *are* in X, right? When viewing the message, you hit 'v' to view the attachments, right? And you're hitting "" to view the highlighted attachment once in the attachments screen? (I'm not trying to be condescending -- just trying to make sure we're both doing the same thing.) Are you by any chance in a 'screen' session that was begun before X started? That could cause problems, as DISPLAY won't be exported. -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://matthew.weierophinney.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pdfs and mutt
-- Emma Jane Hogbin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Monday, 17 March 2003, 06:06 PM -0500): > I'd like to be able to open PDFs from mutt. Right now when I try to "v"iew > a PDF it shows me a stream of text in the mutt window. (Would it make a > difference if the PDF was sent from a Mac vs. a PC?) > > I've added: > .mime.types add the line: > >application/pdf pdf > > In .mailcap add the lines: > ># Use xpdf to view PDF files. >application/pdf; xpdf -err %s > > according to the man pagesbut it's not working. Am I supposed to > source something for this to work? I thought just closing and then > re-opening mutt would be enough. In your ~/.mailcap file, try: application/pdf; xpdf %s; nametemplate=%s.pdf and see if that works. -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://matthew.weierophinney.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I need a little help
-- Didier Caamano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Monday, 17 March 2003, 01:13 PM -0700): > Greetings to all: > > I was wondering how I can configure apache 1.3 to not allow visitors to > view the source code of the page when they click on View ->Source > > Is there any option in apache to do that?, any hint will be appretiated. Nope. If you have it up publicly on the web for people to see, they can grab it. There are javascript workarounds for this sort of thing, but they won't discourage the determined. Take a look at the wget package if you need more proof. ;-) -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://matthew.weierophinney.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: caendar recommendations
-- Matt Price <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Monday, 17 March 2003, 01:57 PM -0500): > I'm looking for a calendar program (not a full groupware suite) that I > can use from home and at work. At home I use a mac, so I would need > either something that makes the calendar web-accessible (and > password-protected),or (less desirable) a text-based calendar that I > can access via ssh. > > I tried apt-cache search calendar, which brought up a numbero f > options, but the most promising of these (php-groupware) wanted to > uninstall php4, which I need for something else. And I also have > mozilla-calendar installed (using the mozilla 1.2 woody backport) but > (1) in general it doesn't sseem to be functioning so well (e.g., the > "publish" option doesn't seem to produce any files, far as I can > tell), (2) from what I can see it doesn't produce a browser-accessible > calendar, which is what I want. I use remind for my alarms and, to an extant, to keep track of stuff on a visual calendar. It is text based, and it takes a bit of time to understand the syntax. However, it is very powerful, can be run as a daemon, and certainly fits with the "unix" way of doing things. remind also has a companion program "rem2html" that can create an HTML version of your remind file. -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://matthew.weierophinney.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: USB printer: no such device
-- Florian Sukup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Monday, 17 March 2003, 05:49 PM +0100): > I've read HOWTOs and asked Google but I can't find the solution: > > I've a postscript-usb printer. And I am running Debian, 2.4.18 kernel > (selfcompiled but almost same config as the Debian kernel). > > I inserted the printer module: > > modprobe printer > > And then I tried > > echo hello > /dev/usb/lp0 > su: /dev/usb/lp0: No such device > > As far as I read this has to work before I can start configuring lpr or > simular. What about your USB modules? are they being loaded? how? and are you sure that the USB devices have been created? If so, do you know where? It sounds to me like the problem is that the USB drivers aren't being loaded, so even with the printer kernel module available, it doesn't know that a USB printer device exists. I've got a USB printer (HP PhotoSmart) connected, and it runs fine... I'm using a self-compiled kernel (though compiled and installed the Debian Way(TM)), and utilize usbmgr to find and load my usb devices. -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://matthew.weierophinney.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dvd + cdrw + modules = problems
-- Olivier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Friday, 14 March 2003, 05:15 PM +): > Quoting "Matthew Weier O'Phinney" : > > -- was [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Mar 14, 2003 at 09:46:49AM -- > > > In your /etc/modules file, add the following: > > > > ide-cd ignore > > ide-scsi > > > > where is the drive spec for your CDRW (hda, hdb, hdc, hdd) > > Maybe it's worth to point out that to do it the Debain way, you > should create a file in /etc/modutils/ say /etc/modutils/cdrw > which will contain that stuff. Then update-modules should be run > that will update /etc/modules.conf Good point -- the file would read: options ide-cd ignore= And then you'd put the following lines in your /etc/modules: ide-cd ide-scsi (and it *IS* the Debian way to put modules you want loaded at boot in /etc/modules! Just not options, etc. My bad. Though it *does* work!) -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://matthew.weierophinney.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dvd + cdrw + modules = problems
-- Conrad Newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Friday, 14 March 2003, 04:07 AM +0100): > I have been trying to set things up with a DVD on hdc and > a CD-burner on hdd using modules, but without success. > > I am using Debian/unstable with kernel 2.4.20 configured in > the same way as the Debian package kernel-image-2.4.20-686, > that is with a highly modular kernel. I am willing to > believe that things might work more easily if I compiled > in support for the DVD and CD-burners, but for the present > I am stubborn and would like to make it work with modules. I ran into this problem just a couple months ago. The solution is actually relatively simple. In your /etc/modules file, add the following: ide-cd ignore ide-scsi where is the drive spec for your CDRW (hda, hdb, hdc, hdd). I found that the form 'ide-scsi ignore hdx' didn't work -- it wasn't ignoring the specified drive. In addition, passing the options via the bootloader didn't work for whatever reasons... go figure. Also, I've had problems when manually setting DMA on ide-scsi drives, so be warned. -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://matthew.weierophinney.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dvd + cdrw + modules = problems
-- Jack Pistachio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Friday, 14 March 2003, 05:08 AM -0800): > If you don't want to pass these options each time you > reboot (and ide-cd is compiled as a module) add a file > ide-cd to /etc/modutils with the following line: > options ide-cd ignore='hdc hdd' > > Is there any reason to not use scsi emulation for the DVD > too? Yep. In a word: DMA. I've had problems using DMA in combination with ide-scsi where either the drive fires up to maximum speed and my computer locks up, or it simply doesn't turn on, and playing DVDs becomes intensely choppy. Whether this should be the case is another question entirely. ;-) > --- Olivier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Quoting "Conrad Newton" : > > > -- was [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Mar 14, 2003 at > > 04:07:18 -- > > > > > Kernel command line: root=/dev/hda6 hdd=ide-scsi ignore=hdd > > > > Maybe you want something like > > root=/dev/hda6 hdd=ide-scsi ignore=hdc ide-cd ignore=hdd > > > > I'm not sure but it seems that your issue comes from the fact that > > modules are loaded in sequence and you don't want one override the > > effect of another since you need both: one for the burner, one for > > the DVD. -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://matthew.weierophinney.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ttf do I realy need to re-boot every time ?
-- dave selby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Thursday, 13 March 2003, 01:55 AM +): > Im using gimp, decided I wanted true type support so did the following > > installed xfstt > copy ttf fonts to /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ directory > /etc/init.d/xfstt force-reload > It counts the correct number of fonts, all ok so far > modified the /etc/X11/XF86config-4 file, adding FontPath "unix/:7101" > re-booted X server, no new fonts > re-booted system > xlsfonts | grep ttf > lists all the fonts > Fonts appear in gimp menus, all work AOK > > Its the re-booting the system bit > Every time i add *.ttf fonts to /usr/share/fonts/truetype/, I xfstt > force-reload, it counts the correct number including the new ones, HOWEVER > xlsfonts | grep ttf, and gimp only see the old ones till I do a complete > re-boot. No need to reboot, but you *do* need to leave X momentarily (unless someone else can tell you otherwise). Once out of X, become root, and run: /etc/init.d/xfstt restart Which will restart the font server. Then start X. -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://matthew.weierophinney.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Direct cable connection
-- deFreese, Barry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Wednesday, 12 March 2003, 02:00 PM -0800): > > -Original Message- > > From: csj [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 1:55 PM > > To: Debian User > > Subject: Direct cable connection > > > > > > In Windows I recall something called Direct Cable Connection that > > allowed you to link two computers thru the parallel port. The > > GNU/Linux version of this appears to be PLIP (which I tried and > > failed at many many moons ago). > > > > So, is there a more modern way to "hotwire" two boxes without the > > use of routers or extra file systems? Is it possible to do a > > straight USB to USB or NIC to NIC connection? > > You can easily do it with two NICs, just make sure you use a cross-over > cable between the two machines. It should also be feasible with USB to USB > but your over my head there. No, not possible with USB-USB -- both USB host controllers would be trying to control the connection. There *are*, however, devices that allow you to go USB-USB (actually USB-device-USB), but they're much more expensive than simply buying two NICs and a crossover cable, last I checked. Plus your speeds are slower (unless you've got USB 2.0, but that's a whole other ball o' wax). -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://matthew.weierophinney.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: newbie mutt questions
-- Sridhar M.A. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Wednesday, 12 March 2003, 06:52 AM +0530): > On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 02:56:15PM -0500, Chris Hoover wrote: >> Sorry for this newbie type of questions, but how do you move mail >> messages to another folder when in mutt? >> > Individual messages can be moved by pressing 'C' (upper case). Mass > moving can be done by tagging (use 't') and then ';C'. It prompts for > the name of the folder. 'C' *copies* the message, leaving a copy in the current folder. The OP asked how to *move* the message, for which a number of people responded correctly: 's'. -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://matthew.weierophinney.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: image viewer that refreshes?
-- Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Tuesday, 11 March 2003, 12:09 PM -0600): > On Tue, 2003-03-11 at 09:24, Gregory Seidman wrote: > > Benjamin Rutt sez: > > } I have a .jpg image that keeps changing (from a webcam). Is there an > > } image viewer in debian's packages that will display the image and > > } automatically refresh the image when it has changed? > > > > Let us assume that your image is the free JenniCam, which updates every 20 > > minutes, and that you have a cron job or some other process doing the > > downloading: > > > > #!/bin/sh > > WATCHIMG="/tmp/jennicam.jpg" > > > > display -immutable "$WATCHIMG" & > > while true > > do > > sleep 1200 > > display -remote "$WATCHIMG" > > done > > What, in this case, is a "remote" operation? I haven't used this, but I have used a number of other applications that work like this. Basically, giving 'display' the option '-immutable' and throwing it into the background makes display sorta kinda act like a server of sorts -- commands can be given to it. Which is where '-remote' comes in -- it's saying to 'display' to look for an already running instance of 'display' and then to change the image being used. Mozilla has similar operations that can be used to reload/load a new page in an existing window, or to use an already running process to open a new window/tab. (For the OP - had you considered loading the image in Mozilla/Galeon/Opera/Phoenix... and setting an autoreload on it, either via the tab/window preferences or using mozilla-remote?) -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://matthew.weierophinney.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: rox filer package
-- Francois Chenais <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Thursday, 06 March 2003, 10:15 AM +0100): > I can't find rox deb package. Is there any "non official" server ? This is one of the few times I *won't* recommend a deb package. The source and binary installs of ROX are very well packaged as is from the rox website (http://rox.sourceforge.net); new versions *do* remove old versions before installing (assuming you install to the same path -- you're given several options during the install process). -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://matthew.weierophinney.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Spreadsheet Recommendation
-- Dieter Schoppitsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Tuesday, 04 March 2003, 10:09 AM +0100): > I'm looking for a spreadsheet which is small, fast, wysiwyg and similar > to M$-Excel. > > SC ist fast and stable, but not compatible to anything. > GNUMERIC, KSPREAD and OpenOffice are too big. Umm, what kind of system are you on that gnumeric is too big? I'm on a 366MHz system with 256MB RAM -- even when I had only 96MB RAM, gnumeric opened in a matter of one or two seconds. I still prefer using it to OO.o's calc. True, you need to have a bunch of GNOME libraries installed, but then, there's a lot of apps out there that do. > Is there anything out there (like abiexcel) that covers my demand > (or am I dreaming of 'hot ice cream')? I've used ApplixOffice's spreadsheet as well, and it's quite fast, if not as featureful; it's also commercial and non-free. I believe Siag Office has one, but I don't know how 'big' is big to you. You could always export your data to csv or tab-delimited and edit in a text editor... ;-) -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://matthew.weierophinney.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian on laptop w/ limited ram/speed/HD
-- Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Sunday, 02 March 2003, 02:07 AM -0800): > On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 10:05:05PM -0500, Matt Price wrote: > > to become available to me, and I'd like to install debian on it. > > The system is an HP Omnibook A4100, > > P-II 300 > > 96 meg ram > > 20 gig hard drive > > You have a fast machine with lots of memory and HDD as long as you stay > in console. I say if you configure correctly, it is OK with X and > compact applications. No need to stay in console. As I noted in a previous message to the thread, I operate a desktop machine with similar capabilities on a daily basis. I've used GNOME 1.4 with sawfish on it with little problem; I *prefer* blackbox with ROX-Filer. I also had a P-II 333MHz *laptop* with 32MB RAM and a 3GB hard drive at one point, and it ran xfce wonderfully, and I was even able to utilize Netscape 4 (a notorious memory hog) quite well in X. > > I'd like to take the machine on a month-long trip, where I'd use it > > mostly for writing and checking email. My *preference* would be to > > run: > > -a minimal GUI > > If you insist on X, use blackbox or flashbox. They are small and fast > WM. that would be 'fluxbox' -- it's a blackbox spinoff. The *box WMs are all very fast and small. > > and... > > -openoffice. > > That is big software. As long as you keep other staff small, it may be > usable on X. Do not use too much color or virtual screen which eat > memory. Keep daemon minimum. I agree with this -- OO.o is very large. However, once loaded, it's quite fast. Don't have much else going at the same time. > > sigh. I'm a bit concerned that openoffice can't feasibly be run in > > such an environment; but I'm revising a book manuscript that was > > originally written several years ago in Word, and I really, really, > > really don't want to have to edit it in emacs or something. > > Just a thoughts. New Word can save document in XML or HTML. If you are > reorganizing few contents, you may be able to get-by by saving document > into these format and complete editing documents in text file. But he doesn't *want* to edit it as text... Although there are a good many good text editors out there, editing XML or HTML is not entirely fun. If you can export to RTF format, I *believe* AbiWord is capable of reading this, and that might be another good solution. Test it first -- I've had problems importing RTF on occasion if the MS markup was too MS-centric. -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://matthew.weierophinney.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Power off
-- Steve Wollkind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
(on Sunday, 02 March 2003, 09:51 AM -0600):
> I have a similar problem with my computer here, with the added bonus
> that when it is sitting there saying "power down" the power switch
> becomes inactive, and to actually turn off the machine I need to hit
> reset, and then the power button right after that. I've tried with
> BIOS apm on and off, and with and without apmd. Anyone have a similar
> problem and know how to fix it? I don't really care if it powers
> itself off, though that would be nice, but the frozen power button
> annoys me.
Many machines with ATX power supplies have a setting in BIOS that
requires you to hold the power button in for ~4 seconds to power off.
(Feature: your child can't turn of the computer just by pressing the
button!)
Check and see if this may be the case.
Also, if you want the machine to power down by itself on a 'shutdown
-h', try installing apmd ('apt-get install apmd').
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Re: Power off
-- daniel huhardeaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Saturday, 01 March 2003, 11:16 AM +0100): > I have 4 computers running kernel 2.4.18 or 2.4.19 and all of them, when > I ask to power down, *never* really dot it. They stay switch on with > last message on the screen "power down" It's a problem for one of them > which is connected to an UPS. He will never restart if power is coming > back before UPS switch off :-( This computers are not the same: one Dell > notebook, one old NoName with cheapset winchip 225, one AMD athlon 1000 > and one Celeron 2000. If someone have an idea, thanks in advance. Install apmd. -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://matthew.weierophinney.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Laptop's power button made to suspend?
-- Hall Stevenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Friday, 28 February 2003, 10:28 PM -0500): > * Matthew Weier O'Phinney ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030228 21:15]: > > -- Eduardo Duenez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > > (on Friday, 28 February 2003, 06:48 PM -0500): > > > Is it possible to configure my Woody laptop so if the power button is > > > pressed (say, by mistake) then the laptop only goes into suspend mode rather > > > than just turning immediately and forcefully? Or at least to make it > > > shutdown cleanly? I've played with other people's laptops (running Windoze) > > > and it works more or less as follows: just pressing the power button equals > > > suspend, and holding it down for a second or two really equals shutting down > > > forcefully. Would be nice to emulate this behavior... > > > > Usually this is a BIOS setting, and has little to do with the OS. > > I don't think this is much different than people wanting to type > "shutdown -h now" and the machine power *off*. It *can* be done with > modern motherboards and I believe, ATX power supplies. Right, and the BIOS controls that behaviour. The apm module of the kernel, for instance, communicates to the system BIOS, telling it to power down when you do the 'shutdown -h now' command. (If you don't have the apm modules running, the kernel gives you a message at the end "Power off" -- and you have to manually turn off the machine.) > If one simply tells the BIOS that when the power button is held down and > it forces a poweroff, I'd hope you're running a journaling FS and didn't > have processes running in the background. Exactly -- which is why the OP was wondering if there'd be a way to get around this. Another poster has mentioned ACPI; I'm not familiar with how it works as I don't have any ACPI-enabled machines. The info I gave is based on what I've seen on several laptops' (as well as desktops') configuration items in the BIOS for power and suspend buttons -- things such as not powering down unless the power button is held in for 4 seconds, etc. -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian on laptop w/ limited ram/speed/HD
-- Matt Price <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Friday, 28 February 2003, 10:05 PM -0500): > A middle-aged (~4 years old -- so, not old, not new) laptop is about > to become available to me, and I'd like to install debian on it. > The system is an HP Omnibook A4100, > P-II 300 > 96 meg ram > 20 gig hard drive The specs on my day-to-day machine were precisely this until recently except that I have a Celeron 366MHz processor (I now have 256MB RAM). Runs fine. I also have debian running fine on an old P-120MHz machine with 16MB RAM and a 600MB HD -- WITH X and blackbox. > I'd like to take the machine on a month-long trip, where I'd use it > mmostly for writing and checking email. My *preference* would be to > run: > > -a minimal GUI I highly recommend blackbox. > -mutt, plus something to fetch my mail from a remote location Great choice! ;-) > and... > -openoffice. As I noted above, I have openoffice running on this setup. It's slow to start, but it works, and once running doesn't slow down the system. > sigh. I'm a bit concerned that openoffice can't feasibly be run in > such an environment; but I'm revising a book manuscript that was > originally written several years ago in Word, and I really, really, > really don't want to have to edit it in emacs or something. > > So does anyone have suggesions about > -tweaks to get debian to run optimally on a (relatively) small > memory/processing speed budget; > -favorite lightweight window managers; > -if necessary, alternatives to / modifications of OpenOffice that > don't require quite so much room to work as the standard OO > installation needs? Up until recently, I was using ApplixOffice for my office needs. It isn't as full-featured as OpenOffice, but it *IS* incredibly lightweight (uses the GTK+ toolkit). If you're only needing the word processor, I believe they sell that separately for around $50 or less; the full office suite is, last I checked, around $100. > Would it perhaps be useful to compile stuff from scratch, rather than > use generic debian packages? No. -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VCDs (was Newbie Functioning In Debian)
-- Graeme Merrall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Saturday, 01 March 2003, 12:18 PM +1100): > On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 08:57:37PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 08:19:50PM -0800, nate wrote: > > > You'll probably need vcdtools, or vcdimager. Or look for tools that > > > can create/burn .bin/.cue files, this format is what a VCD would > > > come in. the .bin contains the raw data, and the .cue tells the > > > CD software how to burn it. > > > > Can you use one of those tools that convert bin/cue to get a disk > > image and expect it to work right? > > > > I'm also having difficulty finding some decent VCD documentation. I > > see plenty for Red Hat. I'll admit I'm way too lazy to go alien in > > some of the tools it mentions, though...there's gotta be a Debian > > solution... > > I've spent the last few days playing with this myself. I've not got > anything down on paper but if you're interested, mail me and I'll try > and fill you in. I'd be interested -- I've been slowly gathering hardware and components to build a mulitmedia system, and wouldn't mind being able to archive my daughter's favorite Caillou and Clifford episodes for her... :-) -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Laptop's power button made to suspend?
-- Eduardo Duenez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Friday, 28 February 2003, 06:48 PM -0500): > Is it possible to configure my Woody laptop so if the power button is > pressed (say, by mistake) then the laptop only goes into suspend mode rather > than just turning immediately and forcefully? Or at least to make it > shutdown cleanly? I've played with other people's laptops (running Windoze) > and it works more or less as follows: just pressing the power button equals > suspend, and holding it down for a second or two really equals shutting down > forcefully. Would be nice to emulate this behavior... Usually this is a BIOS setting, and has little to do with the OS. -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: howto select webmail ???
-- Michael D. Schleif <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Friday, 28 February 2003, 12:06 PM -0600): > No ideas? > > Also sprach Michael D. Schleif (Wed 26 Feb 02003 at 08:07:48PM -0600): > > I am looking for a webmail client. > > > > Yes, I have done these: > > > > apt-cache search mail | grep -i web | sort > > dpkg -g > > > > Yes, I have also done due diligence, sought out each homepage, and read > > through each as time allows. > > > > However, nothing seems to fit my bill. > > > > Here are my requirements/limitations: > > > > [1] mutt is my primary mta, and this is not going to change. > > > > [2] often, I am away from my office, in a windoze environment, and > > exploder is more available than putty ;> > > > > [3] I primarily use maildir > > > > [4] however, so far, I am forced to use mbox for compressed archives ;< > > > > [5] so, whatever webmail I use must peacefully coexist with mutt! > > > > [6] I am researching IMAP servers, and am open to suggestions > > > > [7] these criteria are immutable; but, I will consider limits to other > > functionality Check out http://javassh.org -- assuming you have a webserver and the web browsers you use have a java vm installed. It's a java applet that provides ssh or telnet terminal access via a browser (it can also detach from the browser) -- which would allow you to use the mutt setup you normally use without needing putty. The only caveat is that you need to enable the SSH 1 protocol (rsa1) for it to work. -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Browser string of Mozilla?
-- Tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
(on Thursday, 27 February 2003, 02:52 PM +0100):
> Hi all,
>
> Here at work, I (have to) use Windows 2000. In only now dared to
> install Mozilla, and wondered if there's any way at all to make
> Mozilla look like IE to the outer world... I don't mean the theme or
> something (already changed that :-), but the browser string it leaves
> behind. Accessing the internet via a proxy, in the end someone over
> there will notice my usage of another browser...
>
> Is there anything I can edit to make Mozilla behave like it was
> Internet Explorer?
In your profile directory (usually ~/.mozilla/username/somethinghere/;
not sure where it is on Windows, but look for the directory containing
your prefs.js file), create a file called "user.js", and add the
following to it:
//
// user.js: Personal preferences which Mozilla shouldn't overwrite
//
// Change user_agent string to be that of IE5.5 on Windows 2000
user_pref("general.useragent.override", "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5;
Windows NT 5.0)")
This will keep Mozilla from overwriting the preference if you change
your preferences at any point, and deliver a user agent string claiming
to be Internet Explorer 5.5 running on a Windows 2000 box. Note: the
string "Mozilla/5.0" isn't technically correct for IE5.5 -- it should be
4.0, but Mozilla will balk if it's less than 5. When I've run this
against browser detection scripts, however, they've all reported it
correctly.
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Re: command-line biff?
-- Nori Heikkinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Sunday, 23 February 2003, 02:21 PM -0500): > on Sun, 23 Feb 2003 07:02:37PM +0100, Marcio Rosa da Silva insinuated: > > Maybe I don't get the point, but aren't the 'MAIL' and 'MAILCHECK' > > vars in bash or 'mail' in tcsh for this? > > I didn't know about these, but they don't seem to be what i want ... > >MAIL If this parameter is set to a file name and the > MAILPATH variable is not set, bash informs the user > of the arrival of mail in the specified file. >MAILCHECK > Specifies how often (in seconds) bash checks for > mail. The default is 60 seconds. When it is time > to check for mail, the shell does so before dis? > playing the primary prompt. If this variable is > unset, the shell disables mail checking. > > i'm looking for something that will tell me how many new messages i > have in what box at any given time. I assume you're using bash...? In the bash man page, right below the two you list above: MAILPATH A colon-separated list of file names to be checked for mail. The message to be printed when mail arrives in a particular file may be specified by separating the file name from the message with a `?'. When used in the text of the message, $_ expands to the name of the current mailfile. Example: MAILPATH='/var/mail/bfox?"You have mail":~/shell-mail?"$_ has mail!"' Bash supplies a default value for this variable, but the location of the user mail files that it uses is system dependent (e.g., /var/mail/$USER). Is that what you want? -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://matthew.weierophinney.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: wine and IE
-- Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Friday, 21 February 2003, 01:06 PM +): > On Fri, Feb 21, 2003 at 06:34:35AM -0600, Gary Turner wrote: > > Paul Johnson wrote: > > >On Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 09:27:22PM -0600, Gary Turner wrote: > > >> Telling your (potential) customers they're not welcome on your site is > > >> not an option. > > > > > >I never suggested it was. What I did state, though, is that folks run > > >a reasonably recent version of whatever browser they prefer and file > > >bug reports against non-compliant rendering. IMO, this is the Right > > >Way to handle the problem. > > > > By suggesting that the customer is at fault because he can't see your > > site the way you intended it be seen, is to suggest they are not > > welcome. Remember, the average visitor to a web site has no idea what a > > bug report is. > > > > What is more reasonable, the shopkeeper cater to the customer --- or > > vice versa? > > Not everybody developing for the web is a shopkeeper (thank God). If I'm > not trying to sell something and therefore achieve Perfect Marketing Zen > in the quest to do so, I honestly don't care if their rendering is a bit > off due to them using a five-year-old browser; I'll write > standards-compliant content - which means that browsers should be able > to extract the information even if not all the formatting - and if the > rendering doesn't look right then that's their problem. > > In general, people who think of the way pages are "intended to be seen" > are missing the point of the web. Will your pixel-perfect design look > the way you intended it to look on my PDA? The standards emphasize > semantic markup, not physical markup, and leave the details of rendering > up to the browser where they belong. CSS merely provides hints. I completely agree. But that's not the issue. There's good, standards-compliant content that can still trigger rendering bugs in older browsers that makes the content unreadable. An instance I found this week was with setting margins on a item -- in IE 5, it caused all items styled in this fashion to float top-left in the window overlapping the content (and if there were multiple items, then they overlapped each other, as well). I didn't care so much that the rendering wasn't how I'd designed it and how it looked in Mozilla -- I cared that anybody viewing it in IE 5 wouldn't be able to read it. So I still need to test the site in older browsers and on other platforms -- until I can catalog *all* the possible rendering bugs on *all* the browsers... ;-) -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: wine and IE
-- Gary Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Friday, 21 February 2003, 12:10 AM -0600): > Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote: > > >-- Gary Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > >(on Thursday, 20 February 2003, 09:27 PM -0600): > >> Paul Johnson wrote: > >> >On Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 01:43:29AM -0600, Gary Turner wrote: > >> >> If only that were true. Every page I produce is 100% W3C compliant. > >> >> That's not enough. In the area of CSS alone, IE for Windows is not > >> >> compliant, while IE for Mac is. > > > Once my deadlines aren't looming so heavily, I'll try and see if I > >can get some of the solutions presented working. > > Good luck. It might be worthwhile to use a junker loaded with Windows > for testing a number of browsers. I've found, for example, that > Mozilla, Opera, and BrowseX act slightly different on Windows compared > to Linux. And don't forget Mac. Which was what I *WAS* doing until that computer's mobo died a few weeks ago -- this is an interim solution until I have enough cash flow to replace it. :-( -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: wine and IE
-- Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Friday, 21 February 2003, 01:54 AM -0800): > On Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 11:17:46AM -0500, Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote: > > And, contrary to popular belief (hint: sarcasm!) coding > > standards-compliant HTML and CSS does not mean that if "it works in one > > browser, than[sic] it'll work anywhere." Not all browsers implement > > standards the same or correctly -- > > OK, then people with broken browsers or webmasters noticing such bugs > in W3C compliant pages should be filing bug reports with the vendors. > The more reports, the more likely the vendor is going to get off thier > ass and fix thier broken software. At this point, if you can't render > XHTML 1.1, its broken. Life is too short to bend over backwards for > the lazy. The vendor may already have fixed the bug in a later release -- but not everybody upgrades their browsers regularly. More below. > > and, with the number of older > > browsers out there, you have to be worried also about graceful > > degradation of the code so that bugs in older browsers don't make a site > > unreadable. > > At this point, HTML 4 has been deprecated in favor of XHTML 1.x, and > has been for three years. If you can't be bothered to update your > browser once in three years, why should everybody else bend over > backwards to use obsolete standards? Just because it's been deprecated doesn't mean that it isn't used and/or isn't widely used -- most of the "current" GUI web editors for Windows/Mac are creating HTML, not XHTML, for instance. But that's not even the point. How many people upgrade their browsers regularly? Do you remember how hard it is to do when you're on a dial-up line (due to the download sizes)? And how many people have their browser dictated by corporate policy? (Some of my clients are university departments where Netscape 4 is the installed browser/mail client -- they don't have a choice in the matter.) Sure, I upgrade regularly, but then I develop for the web and want to see what new features exist. But I also need to make sure that pages I create for my clients can be seen by their audience -- and, lazy or not, if the intended audience cannot access the information on the page due to a rendering bug in their browser, more likely than not they'll move right on to another site before upgrading their browser. Sure, I don't like having to test in as many environments as I can get my hands on, and I'd prefer to code once and have it viewable anywhere. But I also realize that standards or not, the world is a diverse place, with diverse software, old and new, and if I want people to see a site, I have to accomodate them. -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://weierophinney.net/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Burning cd's makes the computer really really slow
-- Alvin Oga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Thursday, 20 February 2003, 06:45 PM -0800): > > hi ya cirrus > > On Fri, 21 Feb 2003, cirrus wrote: > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Ok I know the answer is somewhere out there but can't seem to find it. > > I've got a 48x speed cd-recorder and whenever I start writing a cd, cpu usage > > goes up to 100%(well almost 100%, can't even play an ogg file properly). > > Grabbing a copy of cdrtools-2 did help when burning iso's. Now i can burn iso > > images in just 3 minutes, but when burning bin/cue images using cdrdao the > > problem is still there(and it takes around 5-10 minutes for each cd). I've > > tried with dma enabled and disabled and played around with the drive settings > > using hdparm, but nothing changed. > > i'd bet that you need to have your cdrw on one ide cable and your > system disk on a different cable .. > > and you would need to set your cdrw to udma2 ( ata-33 ) > hdparm -d 1 -X 66 -m 16 -c 1 /dev/hdc Read the manpage for hdparm -- the -X option *rarely* needs to be used on modern drives as they automatically set to their highest transfer rate on power on, and an improper setting can cause data loss and/or corruption. In addition, the -m option is usually only available for hard drives (do an hdparm -i on your cd/dvd device -- most likely, you'll notice that MaxMultSect is 0), and it, too, can cause fs corruption if set incorrectly (to set it correctly, see what your drive can support using hdparm -i and reading the manpage). Be careful about posting stuff like this as it's highly device dependent -- indicate information about the command and some possible settings to look into. -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: /etc/modules, /etc/modules.conf and others
-- Russell Shaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Saturday, 22 February 2003, 01:59 AM +1100): > Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote: > >-- J.F.Gratton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > >(on Thursday, 20 February 2003, 09:53 PM -0500): > > > >>I might be using workarounds or not using my system effeciently but > >>I've never had to tamper with /etc/modules.conf. > >> > >>All I did so far to get modules to load and to work was to put them into > >>/etc/modules. > >> > >>For instance: on a 2.2.x kernel, my NIC module is rtl8139.o . In the > >>2.4.x series, the module has been renamed to 8139too.o (actually it's a > >>new module, but let's not split hairs). All I did was to replace the > >>rtl8139 entry into /etc/modules with 8139too . > >> > >>What is the use of /etc/modules.conf et al. then ? > > > > > >/etc/modules is used by Debian to manually add modules the user/sysadmin > >wishes to load at boot time. After adding them, you then run > >'update-modules' as root, which reads this, > > I don't think update-modules reads /etc/modules, only the files > in /etc/modutils. If you add modules to /etc/modules and don't > need to do anything special for them, there's no need to do > update-modules. I stand corrected -- I just looked at the manpage for update-modules, and this is indeed the case. Typically, if the modules I'm loading are using any options, pre-install or post-install operations, or aliases, I'm playing around in /etc/modutils/ anyways, so I hadn't considered that entries I was adding to /etc/modules weren't being written to /etc/modules.conf. (Short answer -- they don't need to be, as they're not utilizing module options; as long as a depmod has been run on the present kernel and it's modules, all should be fine.) -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: wine and IE
-- Gary Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Thursday, 20 February 2003, 09:27 PM -0600): > Paul Johnson wrote: > > >On Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 01:43:29AM -0600, Gary Turner wrote: > >> If only that were true. Every page I produce is 100% W3C compliant. > >> That's not enough. In the area of CSS alone, IE for Windows is not > >> compliant, while IE for Mac is. > > > >So slap the appropriate W3C compliant buttons on there so if they want > >to test it out in Windows IE they can find out it's not you who sucks. > > It's not really a question of who sucks and who blows ;) Java Script, > Flash, frames, tables, and graphics are compliant technologies, so does Actually, I beg to differ regarding Flash -- if a technology requires that the browser utilize a plugin in order to work, I wouldn't call it standardized. Otherwise, spot on. > Lynx suck if it doesn't support them? Do you tell folks to eff off if > they choose to use Lynx? > > All web sites (except maybe 'look-at-me' sites) are meant to sell > something and/or provide information. It stands to reason that the web > site designer is charged with the responsibility of making sure that the > site can be viewed by the maximum number of people and does not break on > some browser(s). He can either back off some technologies, or provide > some kind of alternative, or maybe just decide that it's not all that > broken. Without testing, how does he make an informed decision? > Telling your (potential) customers they're not welcome on your site is > not an option. "or provide some kind of alternative" -- exactly. And sometimes that alternative is simply a different stylesheet or utilizing bugs in how a browser works so that the content can be displayed in a reasonable fashion. And you won't know that you need the workarounds unless you view in the given app and/or OS, nor will you know if the solution actually works. Which was my whole point in starting the thread -- I'm trying to do this. Once my deadlines aren't looming so heavily, I'll try and see if I can get some of the solutions presented working. -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: /etc/modules, /etc/modules.conf and others
-- J.F.Gratton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Thursday, 20 February 2003, 09:53 PM -0500): > I might be using workarounds or not using my system effeciently but > I've never had to tamper with /etc/modules.conf. > > All I did so far to get modules to load and to work was to put them into > /etc/modules. > > For instance: on a 2.2.x kernel, my NIC module is rtl8139.o . In the > 2.4.x series, the module has been renamed to 8139too.o (actually it's a > new module, but let's not split hairs). All I did was to replace the > rtl8139 entry into /etc/modules with 8139too . > > What is the use of /etc/modules.conf et al. then ? /etc/modules is used by Debian to manually add modules the user/sysadmin wishes to load at boot time. After adding them, you then run 'update-modules' as root, which reads this, as well as some files in /etc/modutils/, to *create* /etc/modules.conf. (This script is run as part of /etc/init.d/modutils at boot time, in case you're wondering why you haven't run it yourself and things still worked.) There's a lot more to it, and this answer is definitely a bit simplistic, but it's the basic idea -- and it's why you don't need to (and *SHOULDN'T*) mess with /etc/modules.conf in Debian. -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: wine and IE
-- Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Wednesday, 19 February 2003, 10:15 PM -0800): > On Tue, Feb 18, 2003 at 03:07:59PM -0600, DvB wrote: > > I've never done this, but I've seen it done (with me own eyes! :-) I > > don't think it worked as well as the native Linux browsers and probably > > would crash as soon as it started doing its Direct-X crap but, for your > > purposes, it would probably work (one would assume you do standards > > compliant development). > > Well, if that's the assumption, why bother getting IE to work at all? > If you go to the standard, and it works in one browser, than > it'll work anywhere. Save yourself the trouble. 8:o) Because IE has around 90% share of the browser market -- if it doesn't work on IE, you lose your audience. And, contrary to popular belief (hint: sarcasm!) coding standards-compliant HTML and CSS does not mean that if "it works in one browser, than[sic] it'll work anywhere." Not all browsers implement standards the same or correctly -- and, with the number of older browsers out there, you have to be worried also about graceful degradation of the code so that bugs in older browsers don't make a site unreadable. For instance, I recently ran into a bug with IE 5 whereby setting a margin (using standards-compliant CSS) on an unordered list caused it to float top left in the window, overlapping the rest of the content; had I not seen it with my own eyes, I wouldn't have known it could happen. (Those interested in a solution, google for "tantek hack".) So, basically, the more browsers and platforms I can view a website in, the more information I have for making sure it displays in a reasonable fashion. (Which does *not* mean looking the same everywhere! I simply mean that all content is visible and readable.) This is the whole point of trying to get at least *a* version of IE up and running on my machine. -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Explorer-type file manager
-- Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Wednesday, 19 February 2003, 09:19 PM -0800): > On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 04:45:04AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 18, 2003 at 11:57:09AM -0500, Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote: > > > However, applications built for either desktop environment can > > > *typically* be run without *running* the desktop environment -- it just > > > means you have more libraries installed, and some processes from the > > > necessary DE may need to be started by the application in order to run > > > (kdeinit, bonobo, etc.). > > > > That's correct. The only gotcha is kicker and panel proglets don't > > work as expected, much like dock proglets for NeXTstep clones don't do > > what's expected when not running a NeXT-ish WM. > > What is kicker? kicker is the equivalent of the GNOME foot menu, or Windows Start menu, IIRC (I'm not a KDE user; it could also be the KDE panel itself). I think Paul meant "applets" by "proglets" -- small applications that can run on the panel; windowmaker (a NextSTEP-ish WM, as is afterstep) utilizes a "dock" and dockapps or dock proglets, which are very similar. The big difference is that they're not on a bar, but rather in a special area on the screen that sizes itself to the number of dockapps present. -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: wine and IE
-- Chris Hoover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Tuesday, 18 February 2003, 09:25 PM -0500): > Robin Putters wrote: > >On Tue, 2003-02-18 at 21:43, Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote: > >>Has anybody on the list gotten IE to work under a normal wine install? > >>Is it possible to get different versions to work under different install > >>directories (this would be IDEAL!)? Would you be willing to give me some > >>pointers? > > > >Okay: from somewhere deep down in my memory: > > > Just go to codeweavers.com and purchase a copy of crossover office. > This is a version of wine that will run IE, Quicken, Office 2000, etc > on linux. It is the same code base as wine, just more advanced. > Definetly worth the money and will probably be perfect for you. I would, except I *don't* *own* MS Office; the only application they support that's of any use to me is IE -- and I'm not sure that it's worth shelling out >$50 right now (there are libraries and campuses in my area that I'm regularly visiting anyways). (In any event, I hope to get a new mobo for the computer that died in the next month or so, so spending money on crossover now depletes my expense fund for that.) If I can get wine or plex86 working, it will suit my purposes fine and give me another tool with which to work; if not, I'll be okay until I can dual-boot again. Thanks, everybody, for the suggestions and advice! -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wine and IE
I'm a freelance web designer/programmer, and until recently I had a machine I could dual boot into Windows in order to test on IE, Netscape (for Windows -- it *DOES* display differently than on linux), Mozilla (again, same thing), and Opera... that is, until the mobo died on me, possibly taking out the CPU and RAM. I've been having problems with one of the sites I maintain, and have isolated the problems to version 5.x of IE -- and would, understandably, like to test my reworkings. Last I tried wine, it typically locked up my computer (but that may have been the programs I was trying to utilize), but I *do* recall getting at least solitaire working with it, so I know it *can* work. Has anybody on the list gotten IE to work under a normal wine install? Is it possible to get different versions to work under different install directories (this would be IDEAL!)? Would you be willing to give me some pointers? -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: auto login virtual terminal
-- Brooks R. Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Tuesday, 18 February 2003, 11:09 AM -0600): > Greetings, > When I do some programming, I like to login to several virtual terminals, > so I can compile without exiting nano, read a man page, view other code, > etc. Is there a somewhat safe way to login to several vt's at once from say > a script? You might look into 'screen' -- when in a screen session, you can create a new screen (i.e. virtual terminal) with a 'Ctrl-A c', move back and forth between open screens, etc. -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Explorer-type file manager
-- Bill Moseley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Tuesday, 18 February 2003, 08:02 AM -0800): > On Tue, 18 Feb 2003, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > On Mon, Feb 17, 2003 at 03:54:38PM -0800, Bill Moseley wrote: > > > Trying to ease the transition to Linux for the family, I'd like a > > > MS Windows-like Explorer file manager, both in look and usage. > > > > Have you taken a look at KDE or Gnome? KDE in sid is up to 3.1 if you > > ignore the kde metapackage and rough it manually. > > Well, the goal was to not switch window managers. I wonder how hosed my > system will be if I try to get kde from sid installed in my > testing/unstable machine. > > I frankly do not fully understand the difference between something like a > small window manager like IceWM or Blackbox and KDE or Gnome. IceWM, blackbox, etc. are *window managers* -- that's what they do, and they do a good job at it. Most of the good, low overhead WMs compile with just the X libraries, meaning that they have few dependencies and a small footprint -- which leaves your memory and CPU resources for things like applications. KDE and GNOME are *desktop environments*. As such, each offers a window manager (although each can also be configured to use a different one), but also offers their own libraries and configuration tools in order to present an integrated desktop experience; they also utilize an API so that applications can be built off of the libraries they utilize. What this means to the lay-user is that K-apps work faster with KDE, and GNOME apps work faster with GNOME (instead of vice-versa). However, applications built for either desktop environment can *typically* be run without *running* the desktop environment -- it just means you have more libraries installed, and some processes from the necessary DE may need to be started by the application in order to run (kdeinit, bonobo, etc.). Personally, my machine has better uses for its time than a DE -- so I utilize blackbox, have ROX-Filer throw some icons on my workspace, and try and utilize applications that don't require KDE or GNOME (there are a lot of GTK+ apps that don't require GNOME, for instance, and QT apps that don't require KDE). For this reason, I've really liked browsers like Phoenix and Skipstone (which utilize GTK+). But I have yet to utilize a good *graphical* file manager that didn't come with a DE; for the most part, I've been doing without one, but I can also see your reasons for wanting one (making the machine easier for others to use). -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Best WWW browser..
-- Dave Selby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Tuesday, 18 February 2003, 10:21 AM +): > On Tuesday 18 February 2003 10:10 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Hi, I'm using Debian 3.0r1 stable (woody) and am currently using Galon for > > web-surfing. However, it seems to break on some sites - they seem to be > > moaning about Frames support mostly. Wierd -- shouldn't happen, as it's based on Mozilla, which has always had decent frames support. > > > > Anyway, which browser should I use under gnome to get the most pages > > viewed? > > I use phoenix through KDE though it should work in gnome, Ive added a couple > of plugins for java etc, works AOK, have yet to meet a page it wont display > and is quick, not as quick as dillo but quick !! Actually, it works anywhere. If you have GTK+ libraries installed, it will theme via the current GTK+ theme (1.x only, though; and not all elements theme). > Not avalible as a deb package as far as I am aware, but compile from source > and it works AOK No need to compile from source -- they provide binaries, which you can install either into your system tree (/usr) or run from anywhere. The binaries are built off the current stable development version of Mozilla, so they don't even require Moz to be installed. However, if you have Moz installed already, it makes using plugins a little easier (I symlink to the Moz plugins directory). > http://www.mozilla.org/releases/stable.html Ummm, that's for mozilla. Try this link: http://www.mozilla.org/projects/phoenix/releases.html -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Explorer-type file manager
-- Bill Moseley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Monday, 17 February 2003, 03:54 PM -0800): > Trying to ease the transition to Linux for the family, I'd like a > MS Windows-like Explorer file manager, both in look and usage. > > Not that icon view, just the plain old "Explore" with directories > on the left and directory contents on the right. And where I can > configure what mouse buttons do for each file type (e.g. right click on > .mp3 and select from menu xmms play, xmms queue, or mpg123, or scp to > some set machine). Also click on column titles to sort by that column. > > Window manager is icewm. As long as you have the right libraries installed (which apt will automatically take care of), you should be able to run any filemanager you can find -- the window manager is simply there for just that: managing windows. > I like Rox and FileRunner and a few others, but this is a case where I'm > trying to make it feel a lot like Windows. Some specific suggestions: konqueror (the KDE filemanager/web browser) nautilus (GNOME filemanager -- also web browser, as it utilizes mozilla) You might also look into purchasing a copy of Xandros, which is a debian-based distro; the reviews I've read of the Xandros File Manager (called xfm, but not to be confused with another filemanager by that name) make it sound like it's several steps beyond either of the above, and perhaps even less memory/CPU intensive. You'd be in a familiar environment (as I noted, it's Debian based), but have a very Windows-esque environment. -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: exim vs. mutt: envelope/from/sender ???
-- Michael D. Schleif <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Monday, 17 February 2003, 04:21 PM -0600): > > As some of you know, I am transitioning from netscrape to mutt mua's. > > I am having some mail sending issues. > > The host on which the new mail system resides is bragi.private.network. > The default exim and mutt installations passed this name onto the > internet, whereupon intelligent mail servers rejected my mail, because > private.network. is an unusable domain. > > I own the domain: helices.org , which is hosted elsewhere. I also have > several other email addresses, all valid and I can receive mail using > any of them. This particular network sits behind attbi.com cablemodem, > and it is not practical to host a valid public domain here. > > I want to be able to change between email addresses from within mutt. > How do I do that? > > Initially, I'd configured exim for this: I don't use exim -- so I can't help you here. > In ~/.muttrc, I have these weird variables, _none_ of which make it into > received email: > > set envelope_from=yes > set from="Michael Zchleif <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" > set realname="Michael Zchleif <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" I have: set use_from set from=myaddress@mydomain set realname="My Name Goes Here" set alternates=(address1@domain1|address2@domain1|address3@domain2) set envelope_from set reverse_name "from" should just be your address; realname should be the realname -- mutt makes it into "realname ". "use_from" (and "envelope_from", IIRC) *MUST* be on for mutt to write the From header. "reverse_from" will let mutt use the "To:" addressed in a mail be the "From:" address when you reply; for this to work, you have to define a list of addresses that you use in "alternates" (it's a regexp). NONE of this will work if your MTA isn't set up to allow you to write your own From header... so make sure that exim is set up correctly. -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cdrecord -scanbus fails
-- Thomas H. George <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Monday, 17 February 2003, 03:38 PM -0500): > It used to work. > > I have append="hdd=ide-scsi" in lilo. > On bootup dmesg|grep hdd shows > > ide-setup: hdd=ide-scsi > ide1: BM-MDA at 0xf008-0xf00f, BIOS settings: hdc DMA hdd: > DMA > hdd: Norcent RWJ-401S, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive > > I have burnt cd's with the Norcent CD-RW drive in the past. Now, > suddenly xcdroast can't find it and cdrecord -scanbus fails. It looks like you're setting DMA on /dev/hdd? I'd done this (by accident), and it made ide-scsi not work. Try turning it off, reloading ide-scsi (modprobe ide-scsi) and see if that will work. -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pronto users ???
-- Michael D. Schleif <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Thursday, 13 February 2003, 08:53 PM -0600): > > Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote: > > > > -- Vineet Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > > (on Thursday, 13 February 2003, 05:29 PM -0800): > > > * Michael D. Schleif ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030213 14:16]: > > > > > > > ... I am working on moving a 2GB, ~100 > > > > message, ~500 folder, ~400 messages per day mail archive to debian > > > > woody. Currently, this is used by netscrape mail in an convenient and > > > > elaborate hierarchy of folders sometimes (10) or more levels deep. > > > > > > > > I'm testing mutt; but, I have not found as convenient a solution to the > > > > many nested subfolder syndrome, especially regarding the navigation of > > > > folders from within mutt. > > > > What don't you like about the navigation? What kind of mail format are > > you using (Maildir, mbox, MH...)? I use IMAP (more on that below), and I > > like the ability to define mailboxes I use regularly for 'one stop > > shopping', as well as being able to navigate my "tree" when I want to. > > Best yet, I can do it all from my keyboard > > Perhaps, that is what I am missing -- IMAP! In my posts here and on > mutt-users, I am trying to describe my situation objectively and to > avoid prejudice for options I am investigating. I have tossed out IMAP? > as a possible solution; but, you are the only one to bite. > > I have used remote IMAP servers; but, not built one -- so, I do not know > how nor if I can use to build a tree of 500-1000 subfolders/branches, > 10-20 levels deep? My understanding is that they're very robust, and support as many levels deep as your filesystem allows (if not more -- it seems that they don't really nest the same way that file hierarchies do). > > I used Pronto! for a few months a couple years ago, and recall liking > > it. What I *didn't* like is that I recall it storing messages in a MySQL > > database -- however, I see it now has support for mbox and Maildir, so > > that's a moot issue. However, because it *did* use a database, the > > programmer had done a nice job with nested folders (I think every > > programmer at some point tries their hand at trees and folders). > > What do you *not* like about storing mail archives in a database? I've > been thinking for sometime that that is where I'd like to end up -- what > is the downside ??? Switching clients. If you use standard mailbox formats such as mbox, MH, Maildir, and IMAP, most any *nix client (and most Windows ones, for that matter) should be able to connect and read the message stores. However, with database storage, the client utilizing it tends to create its own db structure and storage format -- which won't transfer to a different client. > Please, give me some pointers regarding IMAP. Do you believe that I can > rigorously manage my growing mail system? Which IMAP? For migrating to it, I'd set up your server, and then transfer your mail, folder by folder, to the IMAP store from whatever store you've been using -- most likely, whatever client you use (sounds like Netscape) will be able to connect to the IMAP server, so you should be able to do it in your familiar environment. Then, just *use* it. All clients I've tried so far that have IMAP support have all the necessary libraries for creating folders on the fly, deleting them, renaming them, moving them, etc. As for which IMAP server, you'll need to do some research as to your needs. I'm using Courier, which has a nice, small footprint and is much speedier compared to UW-IMAP; my understanding is it isn't as robust as Cyrus, however. It handles my message stores readily, and I've had absolutely no problems with it in the 18 months I've had it up and running. -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pronto users ???
-- Vineet Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Thursday, 13 February 2003, 05:29 PM -0800): > * Michael D. Schleif ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030213 14:16]: > > > > Any pronto mua users here? > > You could grep this mailbox for User-Agent headers... ... and you'll likely find about half of them use mutt... ;-) > > ... I am working on moving a 2GB, ~100 > > message, ~500 folder, ~400 messages per day mail archive to debian > > woody. Currently, this is used by netscrape mail in an convenient and > > elaborate hierarchy of folders sometimes (10) or more levels deep. > > > > I'm testing mutt; but, I have not found as convenient a solution to the > > many nested subfolder syndrome, especially regarding the navigation of > > folders from within mutt. What don't you like about the navigation? What kind of mail format are you using (Maildir, mbox, MH...)? I use IMAP (more on that below), and I like the ability to define mailboxes I use regularly for 'one stop shopping', as well as being able to navigate my "tree" when I want to. Best yet, I can do it all from my keyboard Is that the part you don't like -- that it's console-based? If so, mutt definitely *isn't* for you. However, give it a try -- I was a die-hard GUI mail-reader fanatic, but was constantly getting frustrated with the memory and CPU overhead of GUI apps (I'm on a 366Mhz machine that, until recently, had minimal memory). I forced myself to try mutt for a couple weeks, and I've never gone back. > > Further investigation shows that pronto supports nested subfolders; but, > > <http://www.muhri.net/pronto/> has not revealed much detail. I used Pronto! for a few months a couple years ago, and recall liking it. What I *didn't* like is that I recall it storing messages in a MySQL database -- however, I see it now has support for mbox and Maildir, so that's a moot issue. However, because it *did* use a database, the programmer had done a nice job with nested folders (I think every programmer at some point tries their hand at trees and folders). > As a side note, I can recommend that the most convenient way I've found > to transport mail from proprietary stores (outlook, etc.) to righteous > ones is via an IMAP server. Should you decide to just move everything > to the IMAP store and keep it there, this gives you the advantage of > being able to access the same data and folder hierarchy from whatever > MUA you feel like at any time (and from whatever site, no less). I *heartily* second this! For several years, I kept trying just about every new mailer I came across because the one I was using didn't have X feature, or because the new mailer had this new cool Y feature... I can't tell you how many times I had to move mail stores from one app to another or one format to another Ugghh! Finally I got the idea to throw up an IMAP server, and it made these "conversions" so much easier, as I never had to worry about the backend -- just the frontend. -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: /cdrom -vs- /dev/hdc
-- Pigeon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Thursday, 13 February 2003, 03:51 PM +): > On Wed, Feb 12, 2003 at 09:27:47PM -0500, Seneca wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 12, 2003 at 06:46:37PM -0500, Bruce Park wrote: > > > I'm having some trouble loading my audio cd through /cdrom directory. > > > Before I start talking about the problem, here are the files that are of > > > use to this problem. > > [...] > > > I can actually load audio files through /dev/hdc and /dev/cdrom but I > > > cannot load them through /cdrom. I can mount and run data cds perfectly > > > through /cdrom but the audio files don't show up there for some reason. > > > Does anyone have an idea why this doesn't work? I'm looking to solve this > > > problem rather than to ignore it and use /dev/hdc or /dev/cdrom to load > > > audio files. Any help or suggestion is greatly appreciated. > > > > Data disks generally have a file system, while audio disks generally > > don't. You need a file system to mount the disk. You can get a list of > > tracks that are on a disk using a package like cdcd (on the command > > line, "cdcd tracks"). > > > > In Windoze, you can get a (very buggy) patched DLL that turns audio > tracks into regular files, so you can rip tracks simply by copying the > files, etc. Surely there must be some way to get the same functionality > in Linux? cddafs.o? Okay, what with trading emails with Bruce and following this thread, I think I better understand what you all are asking. And I *have* heard of a way to do this -- my understanding is that konqueror has some such facility for browsing the tracks on an audio CD. I haven't done it, so you'll have to investigate yourself, or ask others on the list. -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: compiling programs from src
-- Srinivasan Ranganathan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Thursday, 13 February 2003, 09:15 AM +1300): > Howdy list > > Im a debian newbie. Installed from knoppix and haven't run apt-get > dist-upgrade (yet). I tried to compile ksim and gkrellm from source. > Running ./configure fails when trying to compile a small kde program or > Qt program. How do I find out where they are installed and how do I tell > the config script where to look for them? You'll need to make sure the -dev or -devel files for each of the libraries you need are installed (libqt-dev, libgtk-dev, etc). Once those are installed, compiling will be a cinch. -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: /cdrom directory
-- Bruce Park <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
(on Wednesday, 12 February 2003, 01:59 PM -0500):
> Debian users,
>
> I'm having some difficulty regarding accessing an audio cdrom through
> /cdrom directory. I was hoping that someone could help me with this problem.
> Currently, I can access the audio cd through /dev/cdrom. Here are some
> info about the files.
> Data cds mount to /cdrom withouth any problem. Of course I'm not trying to
> mount audio cds but I was able to go to /cdrom using xmms and play the
> appropriate files.
I'm not quite sure what the issue is -- do you feel you should be able
to see the audio files on the disc? You can't -- at least not the last I
tried.
Are you sure you've got xmms' cd audio player plugin? (apt-get install
xmms-cdread) If so, is it enabled? If yes, do you have your
configuration correct? ('Configure' the plugin; make sure the device and
directory are correct, that volume settings are correct, i.e. you either
specify to utilize the OSS mixer or the CDROM drive -- use the latter
only if using headphones.)
If all the above is correct, then... not sure what to say.
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Re: SCSI emulation
-- Jeff Elkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Wednesday, 12 February 2003, 12:28 PM +0100): > I'm using SCSI emulation for my cd writer via the kernel options and > append="hdd=ide-scsi" in lilo.conf. > > When running redhat, cdrom1 is actually a link to /dev/scd0. When I try that > under debian, mount attempts result in invalid block device. I've tried scd1, > sr0, etc, w/o luck. Try looking at your /var/log/syslog -- use this: #grep "scsi CD-ROM" syslog and it *should* tell you to which device it has attached: Feb 12 14:14:03 kavalier kernel: Attached scsi CD-ROM sr0 at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 Of course, now that I look at this... I'm realizing that these are reported *after* I mount the device... Do you have any other scsi devices loaded? You say that you *can* write cds with the drive -- what scsibus, channel, id, and lun are reported by cdrecord? Do you get any errors generated by ide-scsi? > I am able to write cds with cdrecord, just can't mount them with this drive. Been there :-( Hopefully this will help! -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Setting up Courier-IMAP at Home
-- David Raeker-Jordan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
(on Tuesday, 11 February 2003, 10:52 PM -0500):
> Jeffrey L. Taylor wrote:
> > Quoting David Raeker-Jordan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > >
> > > Currently, I use fetchmail to get my email from my ISP. Fetchmail passes the
> > > mail to procmail, which uses a few rules and spamassasin to sort the mail
> > > into folders. I use exim, but I am afraid I am a bit fuzzy as to
> > > its role in delivering incoming mail. Does procmail pass the mail to exim,
> > > or does procmail deliver the mail it sorts?
> > >
> >
> > Procmail delivers the mail it sorts. It can accept mail directly from
> > fetchmail or fetchmail can hand the mail to exim. And exim hands it
> > to procmail.
>
> If fetchmail hands-off to procmail, and procmail delivers the mail, then how
> does procmail know to deliver in Maildir format (or even mbox format, for
> that matter)
> Looks like fetchmail passes the mail directly to procmail. Here is my
> procmailrc:
>
> PATH=$HOME/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin
> MAILDIR=/var/spool/mail # make sure this is right
What I do is have a $HOME/.procmailrc that has this stuff -- but then, I
have Postfix handing off delivery to procmail, so I'm not quite sure how
this will work for you.
In my ~/.procmailrc, I then set
MAILDIR=$HOME/Maildir
and then you won't need the DEFAULT setting you have below.
> DEFAULT=$MAILDIR/username # completely optional
> LOGFILE=/var/log/procmail.log # recommended
>
> SPAM=/home/david/mail/spam
>
> :0:
> * ^X-Mailing-List:.*[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> /home/david/mail/In-debian-user
In a nutshell, you direct procmail to deliver in Maildir format. In the
above example, you are delivering to a standard mbox:
:0:
the trailing ':' indicates file locking, a mechanism necessary
for mbox formats. You will omit this with Maildir, as each
message is given its own file.
* ^X-Mailing-List:.*[EMAIL PROTECTED]
this will stay the same -- this is your filtering rule
/home/david/mail/In-debian-user
this is the name of the mbox file you're using. *THIS* will also
change, as you want to go to a Maildir
The revised version that would send this to a maildir is:
:0
* ^X-Mailing-List:.*[EMAIL PROTECTED]
.In-debian-user/
The leading '.' indicates that this directory is directly beneath the
IMAP inbox 'INBOX'; to indicate a hierarchy, you would do something
like:
.lists.In-debian-user/
which indicates that it falls in the lists directory (which is under the
inbox).
The trailing '/' tells procmail to send this to a maildir... It's as
simple as that.
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Re: did www.debian.org change recently?
-- nate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Monday, 10 February 2003, 08:39 AM -0800): > tryin to figure out why www.debian.org crashes my phoenix 0.5. > > if I remove my profile it loads, but otherwise it crashes. other > debian pages such as: > load fine, but www.debian.org/ itself crashes it everytime. mozilla > 1.0 loads it ok too. haven't noticed any problems on any other sites, > there's no messages in the console when phoenix exits, just a new > prompt. I just fired it up on 0.5, no problems here. No proxy, no special CSS. -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] multiusers problems
Don't top-post -- reply inline, please. I've fixed this up so it makes sense. -- Gilberto Garcia Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Monday, 10 February 2003, 01:37 PM -0300): > > On Mon, Feb 10, 2003 at 11:25:30AM -0300, Gilberto Garcia Jr. wrote: > > and what about OpenOffice? > > > > Did you install from the upstream .tar.gz or from our packages? If so, > > which version of the packages? > OpenOffice I had installed from tar.gz, from the last one you can download > on openoffice site. Where did it install? /usr/bin? /usr/local/bin? /opt/bin? /usr/local/OpenOffice.org/program? The point is that you'll need to make sure that the binaries (i.e. openoffice, oowriter, oocalc, etc. -- they may be staroffice, swriter, scalc, etc. I can't remember if OO.o changed the names from their StarOffice incarnations) are located in your users' paths. > kmixer, xmms and freeamp, i had installed from the .iso cds you can find on > debian site. (i downloaded all 7 cds). I use debian woody >From what you wrote in previous posts, it sounds like with each of these, there are permission problems on the audio devices. Either make the devices read/write by all, or make sure users are in the appropriate group(s) (usually 'audio'). -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to install rox ?
-- Joris Huizer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Saturday, 08 February 2003, 07:56 AM -0800): > I recently saw rox and I think I like it. > I had a look at the rox site and decided to give it a > try. > > I tried to install using the apt-get lines as > described at > http://rox.sourceforge.net/rox_download.php3#Debs . > However, when I do type, apt-get install rox , I get > the following lengthy message: I've been using ROX on my debian box for over a year now. At the time I started, there weren't any Debian packages. I've tried them over time, but I find that the ROX install is very easy to do, and very easy to remove when necessary (new versions even delete old versions before installing). Give it a try. -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: information
-- Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Friday, 07 February 2003, 05:14 PM +): > Hi. my name is Ricardo and i intent to be a Debian user. so i'd like to > know if the hardware on my machine is suported by your version 3.0r0 > (woody). > > i have: a Asus motherboard mod: TUSL2-C(PIII700, FC-PGA), Not sure, but should work. > VGA ATI Radeon 7500 64mb DDR Agp, Yes, supported by X. > a Creative Live Player 5.1, a Alcatel Speed Touch USB > modem(ADSL), Not sure about either of these; others will tell you. > an internal Zip100 Drive(IDE), a DVD-Rom(16x48), a CD-RW > Samsung 48x16x48, Yes, yes, and yes. They will take some setting up, but once setup, work well. > a LG 44i Monitor, Main thing here is that your video card works. If you have the manuals for your monitor, it will allow you to fine-tune Horizontal and Vertical refresh rates to fit your monitor. > a Realtek Ethernet card(10/100) I've used one; worked fine. > and a three button USB Logitech mouse(MouseManWheel USB). I've used two different USB mice with wheels, both without a hitch. -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: spaces in filenames
-- Sheldon Lee-Wen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Thursday, 06 February 2003, 01:11 PM -0500): > Hi, > >I'm trying to write a script where I can get the names of files in a > directory. Normally this is easy, like this: > >for doc in `ls /var/www/htlml/files` > do > echo $i > done > > However, some of the files have spaces in the names, like "My File.html" > How do I get $doc to have the correct file name? echo "$doc" -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dxr3 and xine dvd playback
-- Matthew Weier O'Phinney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Wednesday, 05 February 2003, 04:48 PM -0500): > I'm on debian testing, and want to view DVDs via my dxr3 card. I tried > installing the em8300 package, but it wasn't set up correctly, so I > ended up grabbing the source and installing it by hand. Since I wasn't > able to get the deb of em8300, I also ended up compiling and installing > xine-lib and xine-ui by hand. > > The dxr3 card works fine -- vga loopback sends video fine, and I can get > my vga overlay up and running (I can send output from lsmod and > em8300setup, if necessary, to show that installation works). When I try > and run xine, however, wierd stuff happens. > > Half the time, it seems like xine is unable to find the spu-en/decoder > on the card, and thus won't play anything and locks up. The other half, > it will play the first chapter -- usually just the copyright notice -- > and stops and locks up. I don't ever get to the menus, and trying to > play a later chapter via the command-line always comes up as an > unsupported option. Followup: I can start chapters if I mount the dvd and use the file:// syntax for MRLs. However, I get audio (very choppy) and only a green screen. Since my card uses a bt865 chip, I can only set options for the em8300 module - and I've tried setting the dicom_control and dicom_fix options in all 4 combinations, and still only get a green screen when using the file:/ syntax. When using 'xine dvd:/', I get the copyright notice, which displays correctly. -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
dxr3 and xine dvd playback
I'm on debian testing, and want to view DVDs via my dxr3 card. I tried installing the em8300 package, but it wasn't set up correctly, so I ended up grabbing the source and installing it by hand. Since I wasn't able to get the deb of em8300, I also ended up compiling and installing xine-lib and xine-ui by hand. The dxr3 card works fine -- vga loopback sends video fine, and I can get my vga overlay up and running (I can send output from lsmod and em8300setup, if necessary, to show that installation works). When I try and run xine, however, wierd stuff happens. Half the time, it seems like xine is unable to find the spu-en/decoder on the card, and thus won't play anything and locks up. The other half, it will play the first chapter -- usually just the copyright notice -- and stops and locks up. I don't ever get to the menus, and trying to play a later chapter via the command-line always comes up as an unsupported option. Anybody have this working with debian? what did you have to do? Thanks! -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DVD - driving me crazy...
-- Vittorio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Wednesday, 05 February 2003, 03:11 PM +): > I'd like to watch movies by means of my PC DVD reader. > > Now, I've installed ogle and xine by means of apt-get from debian > stable and compiled mplayer from source. > > None of them works smoothly. > > After having symlinked /dev/cdrom to /dev/dvd (it didn't work at all > before this!) OCCASIONALLY and SELDOM either ogle or xine work fine. Now I'm > unable to even start a DVD movie: xine complains about a missing > plugin for 'xine-ui; ogle simply crashes. Mplayer is the only one > akwardly working issuing "mplayer -dvd nn" with nn=1,2,3. Sounds like you're missing libdvdcss. > Is there anyone out there able to explain what's wrong with those > programs and what to do to make them work (either xine or ogle)? > > OR > > Other suggestions? I was recently setting mine up, and the tip that finally got DVD's playing smoothly was turning on dma for my dvd drive: hdparm -d1 /dev/xxx where 'xxx' is your device's id (hda, hdb, hdc, hdd) -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Phoenix debs for woody? - SOLVED
-- Balazs Javor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Tuesday, 04 February 2003, 06:43 PM +0100): > A big thanks to all who replied me. > When I first looked at the Phoenix website I seem to > have "got lost" somehow and missed the tarball completely :( > > Downloading and unzipping it to /usr/local/ worked perfectly! > > BTW, is there a way to make it use anti-aliased fonts under > blackbox? I think (I'm very likely wrong) that any AA fonts used by Phoenix are going to come out of your .gtkrc -- if gtk is detected on your machine it grabs the current theme in creating its GUI. So check and see if you've got GTK configured to use AA and/or your theme is using it. -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: copying out of openoffice
-- martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Monday, 03 February 2003, 05:49 PM +0100): > I don't seem to be able to copy text out of an OpenOffice.org text > document. I select the text, I even choose 'Copy' from the 'Edit' > menu, but when I try standard X pasting, it doesn't work. Why? Is > OpenOffice just not behaving like a proper X application??? I have a similar problem. I seem to be able to use the "Ctrl-C" method (also "Edit->Copy") with Mozilla, but nothing else. If I select text with the mouse, the only app I've been able to middle-click paste into is gVim (from which I can then do standard X pasting everywhere else). Hence, I use this as a workaround whenever using OO.o. -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apm -s with vim open -> lockup
-- nate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Saturday, 01 February 2003, 12:17 PM -0800): > Matthew Weier OPhinney said: > > I've got debian testing on my wife's old p-120 laptop; it works great, and > > with the plethora of text tools I typically use, it's much more productive > > than windows ever was on it. > > > > However, I've noticed some odd behaviour in relation to suspending while a > > vim session is open: in a nutshell, when I try to wake the machine, it > > won't. I have to turn it off and turn it on again. > > > > Has anyone else experienced this? Is there a way to do this (i.e., suspend > > while a vim session is open)? I'd like to be able to walk away from the > > machine while editing a file and not have to reboot to > > continue! > > I cannot possibly imagine how vim could affect suspending in any > way. are you running in X? I can't imagine why, either -- yet I've been experiencing it. And the behaviour happens in both X and from the console. I can have mutt or slrn running, w3m, any number of other apps -- but if VIM is running, I cannot resume from a suspend. > worst case I suppose you could load vim in screen, or just hit ^Z to > suspend the vim session then 'fg' to restore it. vim doesn't interact > with the hardware in any way so it seems incredibly unlikely to me > that vim would be the cause. I already run VIM typically in screen. I may have several sessions open on different screens, so I'd *prefer* not to need to background each of them; if I'm going to do that, I might as well stop each of them before suspending, as I'm doing now. I'm most worried about when the machine goes into suspension by itself -- say, for instance, I need to take a phone call and I'm not fiddling with the keyboard, or I take my daughter back for her nap, etc. -- I've been getting into a habit of saving and quitting from VIM before suspending, but I'd prefer not to. > it is not uncommon(for me at least) to have a laptop not suspend while > in X. the workaround for me is to either risk CTRL+ALT+F1 and hope > X can come back after a resume, or exit X and suspend from the console. This is not a problem -- it suspends fine from either console or X. Could it be a memory issue? I've only got 16MB on the machine. -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
apm -s with vim open -> lockup
I've got debian testing on my wife's old p-120 laptop; it works great, and with the plethora of text tools I typically use, it's much more productive than windows ever was on it. However, I've noticed some odd behaviour in relation to suspending while a vim session is open: in a nutshell, when I try to wake the machine, it won't. I have to turn it off and turn it on again. Has anyone else experienced this? Is there a way to do this (i.e., suspend while a vim session is open)? I'd like to be able to walk away from the machine while editing a file and not have to reboot to continue! TIA! -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gkrellm and app launcher
-- Mark L. Kahnt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Friday, 31 January 2003, 04:42 PM -0500): > On Fri, 2003-01-31 at 14:28, Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote: > > -- Mark L. Kahnt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > > (on Friday, 31 January 2003, 12:33 PM -0500): > > > On Fri, 2003-01-31 at 09:38, Francois Chenais wrote: > > > > Is there any application launcher for GKrellm. > > > > Don't find one with apt-cache search ? > > > > > > There is one that I use and find it works very nicely - I have a series > > > of buttons configured with it to use mplayer to run a number of asx > > > streams. It isn't currently packaged, but I had no trouble to my > > > recollection building and installing it from source. You can get it at: > > > > > > http://gkrellmlaunch.sourceforge.net/ > > > > Actually, it *is* packaged, at least in testing: apt-get install > > gkrellmlaunch > > > Hmmm - I search for it on my selection of apt servers and I don't get it > (testing, unstable, main, contrib and non-free of both, non-us, > security, Christian's stuff and experimental from when I first installed > Gnome2.) I did apt-get update this morning, so I should be able to find > it if it is on a core server. It doesn't show up on a search of > packages.debian.org, either. Where are you getting this from? $ apt-cache show gkrellmlaunch Package: gkrellmlaunch Status: install ok installed Priority: optional Section: x11 Installed-Size: 76 Maintainer: Matt Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Version: 0.3-1 Depends: gkrellm (>= 1.2.2) | gdk-imlib1, libc6 (>= 2.2.4-4), libglib1.2 (>= 1.2.0), libgtk1.2 (>= 1.2.10-4), xlibs (>> 4.1.0) Description: Provides button krells to activate user-defined programs. A plugin which allows one-click access to frequently used applications from GKrellM. . Note: requires GKrellM 1.2.2 or higher. . Offering customisable buttons, GKrellMLaunch allows you to quickly launch a shell, Mozilla etc. with a simple click - all from GKrellM. . * Unused buttons can be hidden to save screen space. * Button labels can be different from command. And I'm using the following in my apt sources.list: deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US testing/non-US main contrib non-free # Blackdown Java deb ftp://metalab.unc.edu/pub/linux/devel/lang/java/blackdown.org/debian woody main non-free # If you want to get OpenOffice.org as a deb package... deb http://www.phy.olemiss.edu/openoffice testing main contrib # mplayer deb http://marillat.free.fr testing main What's interesting is that when I search on http://packages.debian.org, I don't see any matches for that name on any of the distros... Could be that my cache is displaying it simply because I'd installed it (I installed it some time ago, probably February or March of last year). Sorry if I misled anyone... :-( -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PCI Quirks?
-- Thomas H. George,,, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Friday, 31 January 2003, 02:20 PM -0500): > I purchased a motherboard with the VIA 82cxxx-based chip. I complied a > 2.4.18 kernel with modular support for this chip - i.e. modules > soundcore and ac97_codec. workbone played a cd but there was no sound. > I downloaded I gnome-media and gmix was able to turn up the volume. I > downloaded wavtools but wavp pop.wav hung up. > > That was yesterday. > > Today, after rebooting, I can no longer use gmix; I get an error message > that /dev/mixer doesn't exist. > > In /usr/src/linux/Documentation/sound/VIA-chipset there is a statement > that the kernel should include PCI Quirks. I have stepped through make > xconfig and cannot find this option. > > Is there a solution? I had a a VIA motherboard (but with a P-IV) that had onboard sound. I used alsa to get sound to work -- and work it did. -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CDRW UDF file system scripts
-- Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Friday, 31 January 2003, 06:01 PM +): > On Fri, Jan 31, 2003 at 10:32:36AM -0500, Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote: > > Have you tried the update-rc.d executable? My understanding is that when > > the various init scripts are added/deleted/moved with this, debconf > > won't change them. > > Firstly, it's not debconf (that's *exclusively* the interface that pops > up to ask you questions and the limited number of things that interact > with it over its standardized protocol, not the Debian package > configuration process in general - they are often confused). Oops. My bad. But from your wording, I'm not sure if you're saying it's the package configuration process that causes changes to the SysV script order/placement, or something else...? > Secondly, see http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-0301/msg04972.html; I > posted some comments on the non-magicalness of update-rc.d there. I'll take a look. But if you notice my original post, I also note that in *my experience* changing the order in which scripts load/unload in the individual runlevel directories has not caused problems -- whether or not this is true everytime was up for someone else to point out -- thank you for doing so! -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gkrellm and app launcher
-- Mark L. Kahnt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Friday, 31 January 2003, 12:33 PM -0500): > On Fri, 2003-01-31 at 09:38, Francois Chenais wrote: > > Is there any application launcher for GKrellm. > > Don't find one with apt-cache search ? > > There is one that I use and find it works very nicely - I have a series > of buttons configured with it to use mplayer to run a number of asx > streams. It isn't currently packaged, but I had no trouble to my > recollection building and installing it from source. You can get it at: > > http://gkrellmlaunch.sourceforge.net/ Actually, it *is* packaged, at least in testing: apt-get install gkrellmlaunch -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gkrellm and app launcher
-- Francois Chenais <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Friday, 31 January 2003, 03:38 PM +0100): > Is there any application launcher for GKrellm. > Don't find one with apt-cache search ? apt-get install gkrellmlaunch -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Learning PERL
-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Friday, 31 January 2003, 02:17 PM +): > Hi, >I know this is slightly off-topic but it's definitely related to > virtually all Un*xen I've ever come across. I have a colleague who has > never used a *real* OS but now as part of his job he has to. A few times > I've come across him doing things like find/replace over and over in nedit > to change every occurrence of fred for wilma for example. I've quickly > shown him how to PERL it on those occasions. He's finally starting to get > it and has asked me if I know of a good book for learning PERL for a > complete beginner - I let him borrow my Camel (Programming PERL to those > who don't know) but it's too hard for him - no prior programming > experience. If he's using nedit, he should take a look at nedit's support for regexps -- it's very good, and he wouldn't need to use perl to do tasks like this that he's accustomed to doing in an editor. > Can anyone recommend a book (or even better, and online tutorial set) for > this guy to learn basic PERL from. You know simple reg-ex's and the like? Best book to learn perl from is O'Reilly Press' "Learning Perl", and the section of regular expressions in "Programming Perl" is incredible. If he's mainly interested in learning regexps -- the basics of which can be used in a variety of editors, sed, grep, perl, etc -- try "Mastering Regular Expressions," also an O'Reilly title. -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CDRW UDF file system scripts
-- Roy Pluschke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Friday, 31 January 2003, 05:31 AM -0800): > On Fri, 31 Jan 2003 15:02:57 +0300 > Andrei Smirnov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 07:38:14PM -0800, Roy Pluschke wrote: > > > Greetings, > > > > > > I recently patched my kernel so that I could use a CDRW as a > > > regular file system for backup purposes. Right know I manually > > > Where did you found it? > > Thanx in advance > > Please send through the list rather than me personally so that all > may benefit. > > look at "http://hints.linuxfromscratch.org/hints/cdrw-hint.txt"; for > a howto -- I used the already packaged udftools deb rather than > building then myself. > > The only problem is shutting down without unmounting -- the packet-CD > driver process is terminated before the attempt to umount the drive and > so the shutdown just hangs. > > I don't know how to change the shutdown scripts in a debian friendly > way so that the driver persists until umount is called. Solutions that > I have come up with will be over-written when the boot/shutdown scripts > deb (whatever it is) is updated. Have you tried the update-rc.d executable? My understanding is that when the various init scripts are added/deleted/moved with this, debconf won't change them. I could be wrong -- but from my experience so far, when I've used this they stay the way I want them. Sounds like what you need to do is change the order in which the processes are stopped -- umount the drive before stopping the packet-CD driver process. Whichever initlevel they occur in, you may even want to simply rename the K... links for these scripts. (I had to do a similar thing to start gpm support *after* I was positive that my USB support had started -- otherwise I'd have a mouse, but no gpm support for it. I simply renamed the Sxxgpm script in my default initlevel to S92gpm -- which started it pretty much after anything else.) -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: black box HELP
-- Gilberto Garcia Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Friday, 31 January 2003, 09:41 AM -0200): > Hey, > > I tried to install blackbox package from debian cd. > > after install i tried to run it, but I´ve got an error > > > something like: X display not found, conect to X failed. This is a problem with your X configuration, not with blackbox. You may need to post your /etc/X11/XF96Config-4 and some info about your hardware to get help with this. -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mouse-wheel
-- florin gheorghiu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Thursday, 30 January 2003, 07:11 PM +): > How do I set-up a mouse-wheel logitech in my box sid, kernel > 2.4.18-bf2.4 ? In your /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file, have the InputDevice section read as below: Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Configured Mouse" Driver "mouse" Option "CorePointer" Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice" Option "Protocol" "ImPS/2" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" EndSection Note: the "Device" setting here is for a USB mouse; set as necessary. -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Howto redirect output from a terminal
-- Michael Kahle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Wednesday, 29 January 2003, 02:18 PM -0600): > > > From: sean finney wrote: > > heya, > > > > i'd suggest either nohup or screen. the former is dirt > > simple but not very featureful, and the second is the opposite. > > OK, I just installed screen, very cool program, but not what I am looking > for. I need to be able to run a program in a window. Then when later > logging into this machine remotely be able to view the output of a program > that is running in the X terminal window that I started earlier when I was > at the console. Does that make more sense? I read the man page for nohup, > this is not going to do what I am asking. You got a few other options, from the responses -- redirect output to a file and run 'tail -f' on it from whatever terminal/window you want. With screen, if you want to login and use a running screen, you simply do a 'screen -D -r' -- this detaches it from the window that was using it and attaches it to the terminal from which you're calling it. You can also attach to the same screen without detaching -- 'screen -ls' tells you the current screen sessions, and you simply attach to the one you need. (I'm writing this from a screen session -- it's nice because it can perpetuate between X sessions, as well -- so if I decide to logout so somebody else can use the computer, I simply detach my screen, logout, and when I log back in, I can re-attach to where I left my work.) -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Howto redirect output from a terminal
-- Michael Kahle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Wednesday, 29 January 2003, 10:48 AM -0600): > I am not sure how to ask for what I want here. But, here goes. I was using > dump to make a backup of a directory on my computer. This was started from > a terminal in X. As it was running I could see in the terminal window all > the status output from the program. Good. This backup job took a long time > to complete and so I went home while the backup was still running. When at > home I ssh'd into the box to see if the dump process was still running, it > was. Then I got to thinking, how can I see the output of this program in my > current ssh session? Is there a program that exists to allow me to redirect > the output of a program running in a terminal to another terminal? I hope I > am explaining this clearly. redirect output to a file: dump > somefile and then you can look at 'somefile' to see what's been happening, or use 'tail -f somefile' to see it happening in 'realtime'. -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: find a command i have recently used in bash
-- Sandip P Deshmukh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Wednesday, 29 January 2003, 07:51 PM +0530): > i am sure there must be a way of doing it. i am not getting it though. > > let us say, i have done ls -l , etc etc > then i have done a few more commands at the prompt. > > now, i want to use that ls command again. is there a way inwhich i can > reach it quickly? for instance, i type ls and some other key and bash > completes from history? I don't know about that, but if you hit your up-arrow, it will scroll backwards through the command history -- I do this a lot to save on keystrokes. (Note: Hitting down-arrow will then take you forward through the history, but only after you've gone backwards.) -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Trying to build Phoenix
-- David P James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Tuesday, 28 January 2003, 11:00 PM -0500): > I've been trying to build Phoenix from source and have run into a bit of > a snag. I want to build it with QT support, which is fine, as there is > an option to do this. The problem is when I attempt to build I get this > error: > > ... > checking for moc... moc > checking for main in -lqt... yes > checking Qt - version >= 2.2.0... no > configure: error: Qt Mozilla requires at least version 2.2.0 of Qt > *** Fix above errors and then restart with "gmake -f client.mk build" > gmake: *** [/opt/mozilla/Makefile] Error 1 > > I have KDE 2.2.2 installed, but I don't know if that is sufficient on > its own (well, given the evidence, apparently not). What packages should > I have installed? I had to install libqt-dev for it to pass the moc > check, so I would have hoped that would do it. I'm running a mixed > system right now between testing and unstable. Perhaps I should attempt > to upgrade to KDE3? Do you have libqt-dev installed? Usually when compiling from source, if a dependency is listed, you'll need to make sure the corresponding -dev packages for that dependency are installed -- these are the source headers for those packages. -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: newbie - tar.gz unistall
-- Gilberto Garcia Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Tuesday, 28 January 2003, 04:16 PM -0200): > How can I unistall applications that was installed through a .tar.gz file? Depends on the application. With many that I've used, installation consisted of: $ ./configure $ make $ su -c 'make install' 'make' goes and parses the Makefile, determines what target you're 'making', and follows the directions for that target -- which could include compiling the program, installing it, or uninstalling it. In the example above, the default target probably compiled the program; in the last line, you invoked the 'install' target, which went and installed the program in the locations specified by the Makefile. With many, but not all, of the apps I've compiled and installed this way, there has been an 'uninstall' target that I was able to invoke by 'make uninstall' -- usually as root. You can try doing this, or, if you want to be certain, look through the Makefile and see if such a target exists. -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Patching the Kernel the Debian Way
-- Doug MacFarlane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Tuesday, 28 January 2003, 11:52 AM +): > I need to apply the freeswan patch to the kernel, and, as always, I hope > to do this "The Debian Way". I've been reading the make-kpkg man page, and > there appears to be 3 different ways to do this. I can't answer all of this, but I can provide some insight to number 2: > 2. The PATCH_THE_KERNEL environment variable. Where is this set? I don't > seem to have one in my, or root's environment. Should I just add it to my, > and/or root's, .bashrc or .bash_profile? If so, which one? It sounds like, from the rest of what you wrote, you need to set PATCH_THE_KERNEL to "AUTO". Environment variables can be created at any time for a shell and its subshells simply by doing the following from a prompt: export PATCH_THE_KERNEL=AUTO And that's it. If you do a 'printenv' at this point, you will see this new variable in your environment. -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
alsa and saving mixer settings
I've had alsa installed without problems on a different computer, and went to install it on this one due to some advice I'd read regarding my soundcard. It works fine, but for some reason my mixer settings aren't staying between boots. I've checked the /etc/init.d/alsa script, and it calls alsactl to store and restore mixer settings, and, since it doesn't specify a location, it should store them at /etc/asound.state -- which exists and is populated. Unfortunately, I find that the first time I want to play anything, I have to open a mixer (I use gmix), which then sets the levels, before I can hear anything. Anybody else experience this or know of a way around it? -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: alsa driver configuration
-- Mark Whaite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
(on Monday, 27 January 2003, 10:02 AM -0800):
> I am trying to configure alsa drivers on an unstable box. I compiled
> them with make-kpkg without a problem and the deb installed.
> Following instructions on the web I added a file alsa to
> /etc/modutils... which debconf prompted and moved to
> /etc/alsa/modutils/0.9 and linked back. I do not get any errors until
> I try to run alsamixer, which causes a function snd_ctl_open failed
> for default: no such file or directory. I was wondering just how to
> set this default? Thank you in advance for any assistance.
But did you run '/etc/init.d/alsa start' as root? If so, and no errors
occurred, what does 'lsmod' (again, as root) return? -- do you see your
soundcard listed ("snd-cardname")?
Also, did you create the sound devices? I.e., do /dev/mixer* and
/dev/dsp*, etc., exist? If not, you may need to run
'/usr/share/doc/alsa-base/examples/snddevices', again as root, to create
them. Then run '/etc/init.d/alsa stop && /etc/init.d/alsa start' again
and see what happens.
Something else I had happen recently: I was using a stock kernel, but
needed to compile lirc and alsa drivers, which require full kernel
source. The problem was that I didn't give the kernel a revision name
matching the stock kernel, which meant that even once the modules
installed, they weren't in the appropriate place for the active kernel.
(I could have solved it using the appropriate kernel revision name, but
I did it instead by compiling and installing my own kernel using
make-kpkg, and then compiling and installing the modules.)
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Re: adding a printer on Open Office.
-- Gilberto Garcia Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Monday, 27 January 2003, 12:53 PM -0200): > Hey guys, > > What I have to do to add a printer (hp 840 c) in Open Office? The kde text > editor (Kate) recognizes the printer without any problem, but I couldn´t > install it at OO. As root, run the program /usr/lib/openoffice/program/spadmin.bin -- from there you can configure both fonts and printers. -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Which driver for a VIA AC97 Chip?
-- Andrew M. Lindley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Monday, 27 January 2003, 11:41 AM +): > I have a new motherboard with a VIA AC97 chip for sound, I can't get the > via82cxxx_audio driver to load for it. I've read around on the internet > but they all seem to refer to PCI string 0x1106:3058 whereas (as you > can see) lspci gives 0x1106:3059. The messages I get are: > > Bus 0, device 17, function 5: > Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233 AC97 Audio > Controller (rev 48). > IRQ 11. > I/O at 0xe800 [0xe8ff]. > > > So the question is what device driver do I use or where do I patch the > kernel to try treating a 3059 as a 3058. I had (motherboard died, now) a mobo with the same audio controller, and the alsa packages worked fine for me. Unless you're rolling your own kernel, just grab the alsa-base package and the alsa-modules package that corresponds to the currently installed kernel. debconf even lets you select and setup the card, which makes it almost a no-brainer. -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
