RE: howto verify burn?
From: bob parker, Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 11:10 AM On Fri, 7 Mar 2003 03:16, Brad wrote: See this post for more detail on this subject: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2002/debian-devel-200211/ msg03076.html -Brad Checked it out. From the posts it is still inconclusive. So far as jigdo is concerned I have the isos and the md5sums all match the source. This is about verifying the burnt cdr. So far, the only reliable technique I have been able to find is to do it file by file. That is easy if you have no subdirectories on the cdr, but gets a little messy if you do, the files have to be piped to md5sum from find and xargs. Example: find /cdrom1/ -type f -print | xargs md5sum | cut -d ' ' -f 1 | sort sumscdr mount whatever.iso -r -t iso9660 -o loop /mnt ind /mnt/ -type f -print | xargs md5sum | cut -d ' ' -f 1 | sort sumsiso diff sumsiso sumscdr Not sure if the sort step is really needed. I'm confused, Bob. If you copy the ISO from the CD-R to your hard drive, and do an md5sum on it, and it matches the original ISO's md5sum, you just can't have two files that are different, unless they are different in miraculously md5sum balancing ways. -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: where'd my mouse go?
On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 10:23:05AM -0500, sean finney wrote: but no module that looks like it ought to be the psaux module. very odd. also, Configure.help in my linux src doesn't say anything about this being able to be a module. i think i'll just recompile the kernel with it built in and report back... gah, still no beans. this is bizarre, it worked in 2.4.18 just fine. i guess i'll try compiling another kernel, without devfs support and make sure *that* works... I'm no expert, but I am pretty sure you shouldn't ever have to do symlinks inside /dev with devfs i.e. i don't think the fix you did was the problem Your /etc/gpm.conf(?) file is probably set up to look for the old /dev/ spot, that's all. Devfs (I've found) to be good at picking up the slack there, but, apparently not this time. Your new mouse (i am pretty sure) is at /dev/input/mouse, which you knew. I guess I'm sorry I never had this trouble when moving to devfs, because then, for sure, i'd be able to help :) -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Libranet to Sarge
Hi, Hi, ...my question is if I do an apt-get upgrade, will I officially be converted to sarge, or is there more to it than that? I believe you might have to apt-get dist-upgrade when doing a change so fundamental. -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: mini instalation
Q. Can I install compact Debian i386 only with rescue.bin root.bin and driver-1.bin? Or base-#.bin are needed? Thank you Ivan Kolenko Ivan, Don't worry about those other posts. Those two disks are sufficient if your network card is recognized. If not, you will need the driver disks. If your network card is _still_ not recognized, you'll need the base disks. I hope you can get a Debian Binary #1 CD, it is way easier, and contains all the disks, anyway :) My favorite way is certainly by CD. Even writing good rescue.bin and root.bin disks can often be tiring, since the first 3 or 4 times I try it doesn't work. hth, -Josh -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: kernel compile for ide modules
I have tried compiling my kernel twice now, but the ide modules that would appear in modconf don't show up. What do I need to check? /lib/modules/2.4.you/kernel/drivers/ide At least, I think it is /ide And by the way, if I just download a kernel and install it, it will have all the modules with it. Surely there's a command that can be issued when compiling a kernel such that it just automatically includes all the modules. What command would that be? You are use make-kpkg? I recommend it. When you install the kernel-package, it will automatically handle the modules for you, giving you lots of warnings if there is an old modules directory there. hth and good luck! -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Problems with new Debian install.
I'm trying to get Sarge up and running on my Vaio laptop (GR390) and am having some problems. I'm using the official netinst CD image (from 2/26/03). Also, I'm behind a firewall and must go through an HTTP proxy. [snip] My second (major) problem is with installing the kernel (step 14). I've stumbled through the previous steps, but when I try to install the kernel, the screen scrolls and quickly comes back to the main menu (with step 14 still chosen as the default). The messages at the top of the screen are: If I were you I'd try instaling with woody sources, then, once everything is set there, change sources to sarge then apt-get update apt-get dist-upgrade hth -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: debian-friendly mason-cm package?
I think you are looking for a package which does not exist yet, called bricolage http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/being_packaged -Original Message- From: Will Trillich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 2:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: debian-friendly mason-cm package? i'm looking to install HTML::Mason's content management features via *.deb, hopefully-- i've got apt-get install libhtml-mason-perl and i've since discovered that HTML::Mason also offers a content management toolbox of sorts, so i'd like to try it out -- but # apt-cache search mason libhtml-mason-perl - HTML::Mason Perl module mason - Interactively creates a Linux packet filtering firewall. mmm-mode - Multiple Major Mode for Emacs doesn't come up with anything, just as http://packages.debian.org/mason shows only the packet-filtering firewall. is there a debian-packaged rendition out there somewhere or is the download-and-untar-gz dance the only option? -- I use Debian/GNU Linux version 3.0; Linux server 2.4.20-k6 #1 Mon Jan 13 23:49:14 EST 2003 i586 unknown DEBIAN NEWBIE TIP #129 from Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] : Interested in HACKER CULTURE? For some fun browsing and enlightening anecdotes, browse http://ursine.dyndns.org/jargon/ Also see http://newbieDoc.sourceForge.net/ ... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: debian on laptop w/ limited ram/speed/HD
Hi everyone, Hi! A middle-aged (~4 years old -- so, not old, not new) laptop is about to become available to me, and I'd like to install debian on it. The system is an HP Omnibook A4100, P-II 300 96 meg ram 20 gig hard drive I'd like to take the machine on a month-long trip, where I'd use it mmostly for writing and checking email. My *preference* would be to run: -a minimal GUI -mutt, plus something to fetch my mail from a remote location and... -openoffice. Also, very important. Go through _all_ the processes you see with ps -ef. Each and every one you can eliminate helps. Do you really need atd and crond? or is just one anacrond sufficient? Do you have lpd or cupsd running, but no printer around? Each one of these things you can remove in the first place will greatly help in the long run. I ran stable, and testing for a while, on a 64MB box, with X, and everything worked fine (apache+mod_perl + mysql + vim + eterms + browser) And it was 300MhZ You'll be fine. -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Internal SMTP Relay with EXIM
Hi, I'm trying to set up an internal SMTP relay/gateway for all email on our network (example.com - for example). Any Internet email should pass through our firewall and be forwarded to this box. After processing (using exim, spamassassin, sophos), it should then be relayed to our GroupWise server for delivery. Any outbound email should go the other way (from GroupWise to gateway, and out through the firewall). Unfortunately, during testing I've either gotten Internet email bounced back to my Yahoo! account (normally '550 relaying to [EMAIL PROTECTED] prohibited by administrator' errors), or abuse.net says it's a possible open relay at step #6 (sending from example.com to example.com gives a deferred message). I've followed the howto instructions included in the spamassassin package, but I think I'm missing something on the Exim configuration. If someone has set up a similiar system, could they give me a hand? You have two things going on, I think. One, you might want to run eximconfig I learned yesterday that exim does not play dpkg-reconfigure You are host type 1, I'm sure (answer to 1st question) Past that, you might need to look at what ports are open on you gateway. SMTP is 25, so, if you don't have that open on the gateway, or the mailserver, you will not have much luck! good luck! -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Kernel-sourcecode directory
Hello for the 3rd time today, Hello back just once. :) I've downloaded the nvidia-kernel-src and nvidia-glc-src and read the documentation. You have to give a command wich gives this result: We do not seem to be in a top level linux kernel source directory tree. Since we are trying to make a kernel package, that does not make sense. Please change directory to a top level linux kernel source directory, and try again. (If I am wrong, and this is indeed a top level linux kernel source directory, then I have gotten sadly out of date with current kernels, and you should upgrade kernel-package) So I downloaded the kernel-source-2.4.18 and installed that package. I searched my computer but I can't find the correct directory. I still get this message. Does someone know where to find this directory/how to install the nvidia drivers? When you downloaded kernels-source it created /usr/src/kernel-source-2.*.bz2 These are the next steps (replace 2.4.18 with your kernel, if that's not it) cd /usr/src tar jxf kernel-source.*.bz2 (a long time) ln -s /usr/src/kernel-source.2-4.18 /usr/src/linux cp /boot/config-2.4.18 /usr/src/linux/.config cd /usr/src/linux tar zxf nvidia-kernel-src.tar.gz (?name might be slightly wrong) cd /usr/src/linux make clean make oldconfig make-kpkg modules_image cd /usr/src dpkg -i your_brand_spanking_new.deb :) man make-kpkg -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: dselect
Can our friend Sukrit be helped? What I am thinking is he could find out which disk the package he wants to install is on... Then he could change his sources to be just that one disk Then install. Would that work? How would he find which disk the package is on? -Original Message- From: Sukrit [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 1:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: dselect Josh == Josh Narins Narins writes: Josh 7 CDs? ?? Josh :) Josh You do not need 7 CDs if you have network. Josh You will want to change your /etc/apt/sources.list to remove Josh all those CD entries, and just point to the standard sources Josh for your area. my isp charges by the megabyte. So can't just splurge. But i get what you are trying to say. :) regards sukrit -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Can debian detect a tape drive without rebooting?
From: Yildiz, Murat, Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 12:06 PM I have installed the package and run rescan-scsi-bus.sh: Host adapter 1 (aic7xxx) found. Host adapter 0 (gdth) found. Scanning for device 0 0 0 0 ... OLD: Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 00 Vendor: ICP Model: Host Drive #00 Rev: Type: Direct-AccessANSI SCSI revision: 02 Scanning for device 0 0 1 0 ... OLD: Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 01 Lun: 00 Vendor: ICP Model: Host Drive #01 Rev: Type: Direct-AccessANSI SCSI revision: 02 0 new device(s) found. 0 device(s) removed. It couldn't detect the tape drive connected to aic7xxx.Is there anything else I can check? Totally not my area of expertise... Are you using a stock kernel? If so, there is a file called /boot/config-`uname -r` Look in there to see if you have a kernel compiled with support for the SCSI device you have. I'd try grepping for the string AIC, but I do not know if that is right. Also grep for SCSI -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: apt-file question
apt-file search vga.h Can't locate object method host via package URI::_foreign (perhaps\ you forgot to load URI::_foreign?) at /usr/bin/apt-file line 225. Yes, I did not 'load URI::_foreign' How do I do that? Robert Robert, this is not something you have to do. Maybe you should file a bug report against apt-file. I checked http://bugs.debian.org/apt-file and it says nothing about this. What you are seeing is a perl error message. You probably have not messed with your perl installation, have you? Are you running a mixed system? -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: A problem with booting
From: Mohammed ElGhwell, Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 3:10 AM [snip]... Now I have a problem booting the system. It stops telling 0Kernel panic: Aieee, Killing Interrupt handler ... I tried even to re-install it but it stops with the same message. So, will you please tell me is it because of the hardware or what? I think we will all need to see more output before we can say. Are you compiling your own kernel(1)? If so, you have likely misconfigured something essential. (I have made my hard drive only loadable as a module, but modules aren't available the first time a booting system needs to access the hard drive!) What are you installing (Woody 3.0r0 from CD?) What install option did you choose (install or install24)? If this computer works with other operating systems, it's probably not the hardware :) good luck -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Problem with kernel 2.4.20
From: Jaroslaw Tabor, Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 10:11 AM Hello! Hello! I was using kernel 2.4.20 compiled and installed by myself (without initrd). Everything was working fine. I've installed by apt kernel-image-2.4.20-686, updated lilo.conf to use initrd and executed lilo. After this when I'm trying to use this image linux crashes displaying a log of messages about missing modules in /lib/modules/2.4.20-686/kernel/fs/ It looks that he cannot mount root filesystem. I don't have any expirience with initrd. Can anyone help me ? I _think_ you have compiled support for your root partition as a module, but modules are not available when your kernel is first trying to load the root module. If it's really initrd, I can not help, because I have never used that. -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: supported hardware
Title: Message Since no one has answered, I have a couple recommendations. google.com/linux search for "HIL keyboard debian" I see from reading some entries that you are not alone in your troubles. I do not know about the answers, but if you have a serial keyboard you can attack, you might like that. That said, [EMAIL PROTECTED] might provide you with more knowledgeable responses. hth -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 7:20 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: supported hardware I have an HP-UX 9000\720 with a HIL Keyboard, no mouse which keyboard settings do I use. Thank you CecilCecil Funderburk Jr. Join Excite! - http://www.excite.comThe most personalized portal on the Web! -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice.
Linux and Threads
Hello, subset-of(World), The boss, rarely one to link, has pointed some developers to this article, which relates quite a few 'flaws'(features?) of Linux threading. The article is dated back a little while, and I was wondering if the criticism's are still valid, and if so, are they as equally valid for Debian as any other Linux? Thanks! http://homepages.tesco.net/~J.deBoynePollard/FGA/linux-thread-problems.html http://homepages.tesco.net/~J.deBoynePollard/FGA/linux-thread-problems.html -Josh -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: kernel compile
From: Timothy Braje, Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 6:16 PM I have been having some difficulty getting a newly compiled kernel to work on my system. I have successfully compiled and installed before but this problem has stumped me. Basically, I compile (using make-kpkg) and install the kernel. When I try to boot it, though, the only things that are printed to the screen are: Loading linux Bios Check Successful (Though the screen flashes so fast, I am not sure if it fully sure if it writes the whole phrase). I have successfully installed the stock 2.4.19 kernel image from sarge without problem, so I figure that I must be doing something wrong in the compile. I have a P3, 600 MHz, Dell Inspiron 5000, running sarge (+gnome 2.2 from unstable). Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Well, the gnome from unstable has nothing to do with it. Although it is breaking so early, it's hard to guess what is. The stock 2.4.19 also installed a /boot/config-2.4.19 file. Compare that with your /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.19/.config Although, since you are using sarge, aren't the source for 2.4.20 available? You'd probably be better off using the even numbered release. HTH -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Kernel Configurations
From: nate ,Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 9:35 PM GForce Hosting Support said: I then rebooted. It booted fine, but I still show 32 for the NGROUPS_MAX (I set it to 256). Am I missing a step here? as another poster noted, the limitation is probably in libc as well. I would take EXTREME caution with modifying this setting. I would not be suprised if a lot of things broke if you have some absurd number of groups a user belongs to. I don't have any hard evidence either way but wouldn't be suprised if that was the case. And I would personally never attempt changing the max groups setting myself, would rather do things differently perhaps using acls or something(acls should be available in ext2, probably ext3? and xfs at least, not in reiserfs as far as I know). nate That would be really sad if it were true, Nate. Not the absurd numbers, mind you, but changing this should be as easy as modifying any other system parameter. I used to have to change things like PAGE_VHAND_FREE on SCO and Ultrix, and NGROUPS_MAX is the same kind of fish, it seems to me. That said, acls(whatever that is) might be a more portable solution than reconfiguring your libc6. :) -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: I can't compile the kernel
You tried to compile modules which would not build on your system, for some reason or other. If you don't have WAN thingie that requires the SiS driver, just go back through your make |x|menu|config and deselect it, and try again. make clean make menuconfig ... remove WAN module for SiS, since you likely don't have WAN hardware ... make-kpkg ... -Original Message- From: Franco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 3:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: I can't compile the kernel I'm trying to compile the kernel (Debian way) but after 30 minutes appears the following error: depmod: ***Unresolved simbols in /usr/src/linux-2.4.20/debian/tmp-images/lib/modulos/2.4.20/ker nel/drivers/net/wan/sis.o depmod: sis_malloc_Ra3329ed5 depmod: sis_free_Rced25333 depmod:***Unaresolved simbols in /usr/src/linux-2.4.20/debian/tmp-images/lib/modulos/2.4.20/ker nel/drivers/net/wan/comx.o make[2]: ***[modinst_post] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory /usr/src/linux-2.4.20 make[1]: ***[real_stamp_image] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory /usr/src/linux-2.4.20 What's the meaning of this? Obviously the .deb file wasn't created -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Errors Building xserver-xfree86
On Tue, Feb 18, 2003 at 08:18:03AM -, Kevin Smith wrote: Hi All, What does this error message mean when building xserver-xfree86? I compiled my own Kernel 2.4.20 for the powerpc for Debian Woody 3.0r1. DId I miss or so something wrong with the Kernel compilation? Skipping unpack of already unpacked source in xfree86-4.1.0 dpkg-buildpackage: source package is xfree86 dpkg-buildpackage: source version is 4.1.0-16 dpkg-buildpackage: source maintainer is Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] dpkg-buildpackage: host architecture is powerpc dpkg-checkbuilddeps: Unmet build dependencies: kernel-headers-2.4 dpkg-buildpackage: Build dependencies/conflicts unsatisfied; aborting. dpkg-buildpackage: (Use -d flag to override.) Build command 'cd xfree86-4.1.0 dpkg-buildpackage -b -uc' failed. E: Child process failed Next time you build your own kernel, and are sure you are satisfied with it, go the extra mile and make-kpkg binary ^^ Binary will build packages for your kernel-headers and kernel-source. Then you can feel free to wipe out everything under the kernel build directory and just install your kernel-headers-*.deb -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: 'Slow' ifup/ifdow
From: Ulf Janitschke, Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 6:15 PM Hi, Hi, i have a problem with the ifupdown-package. When I'am stopping/restarting my net-interfaces with /etc/init.d/networking, ifdown needs several minutes to do this work. Verbose output showed, that it needs about 30sec. for every step, even for the 'run-parts'-execution with empty(!) directories. It was all the same with the versions 0.6.4-4 and 0.6.4-4.4 My system: AMD K7 XP2000 EliteGroup K7S6A Mainbord 1 pci-nic (RTL8139) (no onboard-nic) Debian 3.0rl1 (STABLE and TESTING) Does anybody know a solution to this realy annoying behavior? Hrm. I have an AMD-K6 with a eepro driver-needing NIC that, recently, began hanging and preventing shutdown (testing) No one seemed to have any answers, so I just s/ifdown -a/#ifdown -a/ in /etc/init.d/networking I believe I need to change my network card. -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Replicating a system... sort of
I was under the impression that if you wanted to copy selections from one machine to the next, the proper syntax was vv dpkg --get-selections \* file But then again, he has stable on one box and testing on the next, so I dunno what's best. If you can't swap selections between releases like that, you can always shell script it... cat your_install nosql3 for proggie in `cat your_install` do apt-get install $proggie done -Original Message- From: nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 12:06 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Replicating a system... sort of Paul M Foster said: I'm attempting to set up a replacement system for the one on my desk. (When done, I'll swap them out.) This gets awfully tedious when I have to pick every package in dselect. My current desktop is a Woody, but the system I'm setting up is testing. I have a list of packages that I put on every system I run, for example: lynx, hextype, units, remind, links, nosql3, sqlite, etc. I'd like to be able to install a base system, put these package names in some text file, point dselect/apt (or something else) at it, and have them downloaded and configed as usual. Is there a package that does this? on old machine: dpkg --get-selections selections copy selections to new machine dpkg --set-selections selections apt-get dselect-upgrade bingo :) nate -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: nslookup --- which package?
Gary, you got a lot of advice... But what I think you want is dig apt-get install dig man dig dig -x www.debian.org :) -Original Message- From: Gary Turner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 4:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: nslookup --- which package? I have been unable to locate this utility. The more I look, the sillier I feel. Wasn't this in some util pkg? The closest I've come is ptknslookup in the ptknettools pkg. I'd prefer non X. Running Sarge. -- gt [EMAIL PROTECTED] If someone tells you--- I have a sense of humor, but that's not funny. ---they don't. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ipchains - iptables converter?
I spent a good amount of time with my old 2.2.x ipchains firewall. Because it was a laptop, it included different start scripts based on 10.x or 192.x or static IPs (I seem to recall) I liked it. It was very nicely formatted (no tabs, well spaced) and was organized in a way I felt was appropriate (about 10 subscripts, actually, including different front ends, a variables script, one for the IANA stuff, etc) The question is whether or not there is something I can use to just convert these to iptables world. thx -Josh -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: some apps are too big on my fujitsu
Is there a FAQ for machines with limited hardware, pointing out things a person can do when they are running on the bled edge? There is window manager choice. There is making sure non-essential processes are not running (or even started up at boot) There must be other things... -Original Message- From: Xavier Barnabe-Theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 1:51 AM To: Debian Laptop Subject: some apps are too big on my fujitsu Hello On a fujitsu p-2120 running testing, the gui to load files on xmms and the gv postscript viewer are way too big compared to a simple but obediant xterm. I thought it was first related to fonts, but after having played w/gtkrc, I affected ... fonts ! not the overwhelming size of boxes. Moreover, it is not related to gv. So ended trying w/ helpful comments to let my X determine the dpi, switching from 100x100 to 75x75 when removing the -dpi 100 from my /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers. Nothing visible changed. So, now, where should I look ? any idea ? X -- Xavier Barnabe-Theriault http://xebu.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: SSL Encrypiton
I'm thinking you want, as Rob suggested, scp.
You can think of it as the old rcp program, but it uses ssh.
It can even be used in ways ftp can not(?)
example:
hostname
host1
whoami
user1
scp user2@host2:/tmp/file1 user2@host3:/tmp
(copies a file from one remote machine to another, securely)
-Original Message-
From: Tinus Kotze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 11:11 AM
To: Rob Weir
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: SSL Encrypiton
Thanks for the reply.
I know about the limitations of gftp. I was looking for a wrapping
utility or even something ftp-ssl. I had another reply which
directed me
to tlswrap. The problem is that there seems to be a
communication error.
[~]$ ftp 127.0.0.1 7000
Connected to 127.0.0.1.
220 TLSWRAP FTP Proxy Server (Version 0.7) ready.
Name (127.0.0.1:jmak): [EMAIL PROTECTED]:33
502 RFC 2228 authentication not implemented.
SSL not available
331 Password required for jmak.
Password:
421 Service not available, remote server has closed connection
Login failed.
No control connection for command: No such file or directory
ftp
I don't really have an option. Some of the people are running
Serv-u 4
which only supports SSL/TLS encryption and the windows
applications like
CuteFTP Pro 1/2/3 does support it. So it is the linux community that
pulls on the shortend. I am trying to find a way to link the
networks.
The only we I see that linux can move forward if it offers that which
Windoz offers. If it doesn't, people will keep to that which
does, even
thow they know there is better things out there.
Regards
Tinus
Rob Weir wrote:
On Tue, Feb 18, 2003 at 01:11:16PM +0200, Tinus Kotze wrote:
I am interested in SSL encryption. I am on a LAN with ftp
servers using
SSL encryption(implecit) and some are using standard text. Is it
possible to access the ssl ftp servers from debian with a
GUI like gFTP?
That of course depends on the program. Try and see! That said, a
quick look at gftp-{text,gtk}'s dependencies with apt-cache
show do not
show a dependency on either OpenSSL or GNUTLS, so I'd say
no. wget (or
wget-ssl in sarge) does though. If you're worried about security
though, why not use ssh or scp or sftp?
I am not currently subscribed so I would appreciate it if
you could send
me the mail to my adress, and not just to the user group. I
am running
Debian Unstable.
I have, but to try subscribe in future, you're more likely
to get help,
and you'll be able to help others, too.
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RE: debconf and dpkg-reconfigure behavior
Sounds like your debconf priority got set to critical ? Try dpkg-reconfigure --priority low debconf Actually, I am not in front of a debian box now, perhaps low should be in quotes. I believe there is also an environment variable you can set to do the same thing. hth, -Josh -Original Message- From: Carlo U. Segre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 7:26 PM To: Debian Users List Subject: debconf and dpkg-reconfigure behavior Hello: I have just encountered a problem that I have never seen during the installation of many, many Debian machines. I am mysitified and perhaps someone has a suggestion (probably some thing stupid, of course). I have been asked to help out with a newly installed machine (Woody) and when I added packages, I noticed that there were no debconf screens or questions for any packages. The command # dpkg-recnfigure debconf # Just returns to the prompt with no other output. From the debconf manual, this should at least ask me the quetions using the Dialog method. I have tried installing all the packages that exist on a working installation and this has no effect. I have tried manually editing the /var/cache/debconf/config.dat file to set options the way I want them for debconf but when I rerun the command above, debconf wipes out all the text I had placed in the file for debconf. The entries now look like: Name: debconf/frontend Template: debconf/frontend Value: Owners: debconf Flags: seen Name: debconf/priority Template: debconf/priority Value: Owners: debconf Flags: seen This is quite mystifying and I really do not know how to get out of this funny state. I have tried to uninstall debconf (using --force-depends) and then reinstalling it to no avail. Help! Carlo -- Carlo U. Segre -- Professor of Physics Associate Dean for Research, Armour College Illinois Institute of Technology Voice: 312.567.3498Fax: 312.567.3494 [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.iit.edu/~segre -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: new kernel, new problems
I have a 1000 Mhz that was originally recognized as 667Mhz
Look for these files
/proc/cpufreq
/proc/sys/cpu/0/{speed|speed-min|speed-max}
if you have those, all you have to do is
cat /proc/sys/cpu/0/speed-max /proc/sys/cpu/0/speed
check the results with
cat /proc/cpufreq
If you have multiple processors, you should find them under
/proc/sys/cpu/[0-9]+
by the way, you can also cat speed, speed-min and speed-max
-Original Message-
From: Simon Tod [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 3:16 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: new kernel, new problems
Having installed kernel-image-2.4.20-686 and
kernel-pcmcia-modules-2.4.20-686 to rid myself of a
couple of problems I was having with my old kernel
(2.4.19), I've now picked up a couple of new problems.
1) A failure to get the pcmcia modem running - I
notice there is a pcmcia entry in /proc/devices under
the old kernel but not the new one. How can I track
down the relavent info in the old kernel that I can
use in the new one to the modem up again?
2) Reading /var/log/dmesg when booting under the new
kernel, it claims to detect a 700 MHz processor while
the old kernel gets it right at 1000 MHz. WTF?
Thanks in advance.
=
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Galeon AND Mozilla!
I use Galeon or Mozilla. I was in the train station. I booted my laptop. I used Galeon. I got on the train... Galeon: On starting Galeon I see the standard last time bombed I click discard last session. Galeon starts making new windows at the rate of 2 per second, ad infinitum(?) Clicking X to close the windows, as fast as I can, _sometimes_ stops it. Trying to enter an URL in the one remaining window has the same result (many, many windows) Mozilla: CPU usage goes to 99% for a while, then it quits. Now, I did NO updates between when it worked and when it did not, so it can not be a bug. :( (Galeon has no open bugs like I describe) Is it a key that is stuck down? I am very sad. -Josh P.S. I did not have net access on the train, was planning to work on my own website. Lynx worked. -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mouse cursor wrong after upgrade
Hello Debian Imperators, Last night I upgraded my box and my mouse cursor (the arrow) now appears as a one inch by one inch square of thick, random black dots and transparent pixels. It still works, the upper left corner of the box maps to the tip of the arrow, but I would like to be able to 'fix it. Where do I look to find out what happened? -Josh -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Installing Non-Debian Programs w/out Apt -- what effect?
Hal Vaughan wrote Thursday, February 06, 2003 1:36 PM Now that I finally have a working Debian system, I want to know what will happen if I install non-Debian programs. I know this will vary from case to case, but I'm wondering what the general impact is if I have to install programs that I can't do from apt. Wait one second here! I'm seeing a lot of advice. 1. There is definitely something to be said for installing such packages under a fake user account. /home/nondebian. This can almost always be done just by passing PREFIX=/home/nondebian to the ./configure script for the package. 2. BUT, if you turn each program you want to install into a .deb, you _can_ user dpkg to install and remove it... 3. HOWEVER, you can be totally on top of things, add this to your /etc/apt/sources.list deb http://your.company.here.com/path/to/debian/archive unstable main #I think you want it to say unstable, maybe because then, if the program enters stable, it won't get overwritten?? Making your own little debian archive WILL ALLOW YOU to use apt and dselect and dpkg, just like you would normally. Plus, you'll feel cooler than I do, because you have accomplished something I have not. Then again, I haven't tried, I just know I want to :) -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Rescuing an old RISC6000
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes, Thursday, February 06, 2003 3:00 AM At office I'm trying to rescue an old IBM risc 6000 - 7012/320 workstation doomed to elimination. Is there anyone in this list able to tell me if I can install debian ppc on it and - booting from diskette - what architecture chrp, prep, what else? Thanks Vittorio First place to look: http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc/ This page has the list of known good machines: http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc/inst/install I don't know the numbering system you used, so I can't entirely tell whether your machine is on the list or not, but if it is not, I would suggest you give it a try, regardless. Yes, a pair of boot floppies, or a single CD, should work, if anything will. HTH -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: simple (non-technial) software question
Phil, Tuesday, February 04, 2003 9:25 PM I'm setting -up linux machines at a school and the teachers are interested in Mavis Beacon teaches typing and Mathblaster type programs. They want programs that are fun for the kids and teach them things at the same time. Does anyone have any suggestions? Depending on the ages of the children, you might get something from tasksel debian-jr -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Debian and Dell/Gateway
From: Sebastian Canagaratna,Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 9:22 PM Hi: Hi: I am thinking of buying either a Dell or Gateway Computer. This is to be used with Debian testing or unstable. I am particularly worried about hardware incompatibilities, in particular integrated graphics, sound etc. I could not find much with a search on google. I would appreciate comments from thosewho have used these, in particular: Is there any problem with installing XFree86 (I would like to have OpenGL), Any problem with the drivers for DVDHi: I am thinking of buying either a Dell or Gateway Computer. This is to be used with Debian testing or unstable. I am particularly worried about hardware incompatibilities, in particular integrated graphics, sound etc. I would appreciate comments from those who have used these, in particular: Is there any problem with installing XFree86 (I would like to have OpenGL), Any problem with the drivers for DVD Thanks. Although Dell and Gateway are common machines, and many, many people run Linux on them with no difficulty, I'd like to suggest Compaq, instead. Why? Compaq and HP are now one firm. Internally, HP developers who develop with Linux develop with __Debian__. I'm not trying to suggest that Compaq will have a technical support line for you if you install Debian, but, if all their linux developers develop with Debian, you can be darn sure that the hardware will work. -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MPG-to-AVI or AVI-to-AVI software
From: Ronald Castillo, Sunday, February 02, 2003 12:50 PM Hello. Hi. I've been trying to find a program which would allow me to convert from MPG to AVI or recompress an AVI movie but I haven't found any that works for me. I need a program that can compress using DivX 4 codec (DivX 5 won't work) for use with the PocketDivx player. I asked a similar question this weekend, and received the answers... On Win, you want to try VirtualDub. On Linux, try ffmpeg or transcode -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: if you could have just one dead tree book
Charles du Secondat, Baron de Montesquieu's Espirit de Lois (The Spirit of Laws) 1757 It's basically the political theory that Madison(4th Pres) and Jefferson (3rd Pres) used when they were penning the Declaration and Constitution. Madison and Jefferson basically praise it with bringing Republican theory out of the dark ages. Adams (2nd Pres) also had high praise for the work. It's 1000 pages, but skip all the silly parts near the end about the effect of climate on government. I'm not saying there is no effect, but his ideas are silly. It's hard to get an unabridged version, regardless. Everyone in America learns that we get the three-branched form of government from Montesquieu, but that turns out to be the topic in only 3% of the book. Suffice it to say I believe conservatives in America would like to pretend it doesn't exist. From Book 7, Chapter 3 (???) quote What is meant by love of the Republic in a Democracy? Love of the republic in a democracy is love of the democracy, love of the democracy is that of equality. Likewise, love of the republic is that of frugality. But if someone wants tax cuts for billionaires, that's ok too. /quote I think I might have gotten that last line wrong. -Josh Narins, Aristocratic Republican P.S. You will get a big hoot learning the difference between a Democratic and Aristocratic Republican! -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
XF86Config - XF86COnfig-4 converter?
Hello Gentle Debian Users; I'm running a chroot sid on a long-running stable box, and it works well, except X (heh). Perhaps there will be other issues, but the main problem is that I don't have a good XF86Config-4 for the newer X11 4.x.x in sid. And I do have a good XF86Config for X11 3.3.6, hence the subject line. Any pointers? -Josh -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: boot log
From: Florian Sukup, Wednesday, January 29, 2003 10:25 AM is there a log file where I can find all boot messages? Or, if not, is there a possibility to make them written into a log file? There is better than that. prompt dmesg This will show you the boot messages, but it will also keep up to date with loaded and unloaded modules. -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: HDD general (was: RE: HDD clicking)
First, thanks to those who answered. On Tue, Jan 28, 2003 at sometime, Pigeon wrote: On Tue, Jan 28, 2003 at 02:40:16PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 02:49:29PM -0500, Narins, Josh wrote: How do I calculate the difference in cost to hard drive wear and tear from a single spin-up to the cost of letting it run for a length of time? If it's a desktop box, don't worry about letting them spin down at all, your speakers probably draw more power than your hard drive. If you *really* want to save power, look at the dpms options in xset to turn your monitor off after a couple minutes. Think the question was about wearing out the HD mechanically, rather than saving power. Thanks for understanding, Pigeon. Yes, wear and tear is my concern. The machine is high-end, meaning it shouldn't be hampered by mem or cpu constraints any time soon, I'd hate to have it become worth less because of ill use of the hardware by the stupid user. Hey! That's me! Let it spin when you're plugged in, since it's not like you're burning battery right then. Laptop HDs are designed to start and stop a lot, so here it's a power issue. There's a fair amount of energy stored in the spinning platter, which is lost when you spin down, so spinning it up consumes more juice than leaving it running if the off periods are too short. 25 seconds seems a bit quick to me, maybe 2-5 minutes would be better. I know my GKrellm indicates disk access. Disk access implies spinning. I could write a bash script that figured out the best timing for my usage patterns, if I had any idea what device (is it a device?) that gkrellm is checking. If it makes a difference, the laptop has devfs/devfsd running. Thx again. Although, for the record, I am wondering who is the boss, me or the computer. Is my entire existence going to be making it happier by tuning it forever? I joke, of course. They joke about cats the same way. (you feed them, you pet them, you let them in and out, who is really boss?) -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: LinkSYS BEFSR41 router
I didn't give my machines afixed ip in setup, since it would go against the dhcp settings ( I think). Could this be the reason for the invisibility problem? () From my other machine I can see now the page, but not from the WAN. More detailed, I got the router's IP, and set the http request to port 80 to the Linux machine where I have the apache server running. When I point the browser to the routers ip from the outside it just hangs there. I assume it most be some issu with permissions in the Apache settings, or may be some module missing, but I don't exactly what the problem is. Any ideas? Thanks. When you try to connect from the outside with port forwarding on (I have the BEFSR41 myself, I am quite pleased with it, although now I want the wireless version) you just need to find out what IP the router has... Your host with apache : 192.168.1.100 Router's IP = 24.29.255.3 Port forwarding on port 80 of router to 192.168.1.100 then just http://24.29.255.3 -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: devfs newbie questions about mounting
On Sun, Jan 26, 2003 at 04:05:52PM +0100, Nicos Gollan wrote: On Sunday 26 January 2003 15:32, Dave W wrote: What I _did_ try was mount /dev/scd0 /cdrom and that still fails. I still have scsi emulation and the like setup so I guess perhaps at least THAT little bit has changed. Perhaps it's using sr or sg or one of the other scsi alphabet soup assignments. Have a look at /dev/cdroms and I think you'll have a pleasant surprise... Or /dev/sr0 Or try the alias you have set up in your .bash_profile flop='mount /dev/floppy /floppy' uflop='umount /dev/floppy' It makes sense to put them in your profile, since the hardware will unlikely move unless you change your hardware configuration. -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
HDD general (was: RE: HDD clicking)
From: Paul Johnson, Saturday, January 25, 2003 8:02 AM On Sat, Jan 25, 2003 at 11:33:42AM +0100, Nicos Gollan wrote: For some days now, I've been hearing repeated clicking sounds from my harddisk, especially during I/O operations. From the sound of it, it might be a seek to somewhere on the disk. Yes, probably if it's only happening during disk I/O. [snip] * If you have any power saving features enabled for your hard drive, turn them off now. Spinning up again is a lot of wear on a hard disk, and if the disk is failing, it might not ever get moving again. [snip] Dear Debian users, How do I calculate the difference in cost to hard drive wear and tear from a single spin-up to the cost of letting it run for a length of time? If that didn't make sense, I'll say I set the spindown time on my laptop's HD to 25 seconds. Generally I'll have one disk spin for each app that I load the first time, and one or two other spins for an ls or such in a new directory. Would I just be better off having it spin a lot when I am plugged in? -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Debian 3.0r_0 setup - lots of questions
Basically, once you understand what happens when you go to testing, you should try it. Upsides: newer software, of course Downsides: testing is last to get bug fixes Although, to be on the safe side, it might be best to have one box running stable at all times. Stable is really great for things that need to be really stable. Mainframe people, for instance, love the 18 month cycle of debian stable releases. I run testing now, and have had no problems. Almost all the things you need to know about debian versions can be found out about by man apt-* and man dpkg In the shortest possible... You want testing(of course), but are you ready? Downgrading from testing to stable is possible, but with more difficulty than going the other way, for sure. -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: *install* the kernel was Re: GeForce4 MX
I went to Parris Island, Marine Corps boot camp, back in May 1997, with a Hogbin from West Virginia. Is it a common name? -Original Message- From: Emma Jane Hogbin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 2:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: *install* the kernel was Re: GeForce4 MX On Thu, Jan 23, 2003 at 07:48:35PM -0500, Emma Jane Hogbin wrote: Yes. There are a lot of things that don't make sense about debian on my laptop. Including why usb, parallel printing and cdburning won't work. D'uh. I'd recompiled the kernel but not pointed lilo to the right bzImage. Tonight I was able to get parallel printing working and my cdburner working and have learned a LOT about kernel tweaking in the last couple days because I kept thinking I'd loaded a kernel I hadn't. (Made me go over the basics again and again.) My last two unknowns are the wireless card (I really hope it does work otherwise I have to leave the computer with the service techs who will likely wipe out all my hard work and install XP); and USB. USB should be fine now, but I haven't plugged anything in yet to test. Yes it really worked. But I was trying to restore something that used to be there, so it's possible I didn't need to do all the steps I did. But that's seriously what my notes say that I did. I definitely did not use dpkg-buildpackage. Never seen that before. me == newbie. After I compiled the kernel (again) tonight I had remake the drivers. All I had to do was make to get them to load (I couldn't just load them). They still don't want to load even though they're in /etc/modules. ... but I got printing and cdburning to work so Im willing to put up with teh other irritations for now. emma :) -- Emma Jane Hogbin [[ 416 417 2868 ][ www.xtrinsic.com ]] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: dist-upgrade question
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED],Friday, January 24, 2003 9:31 AM I'm running Testing on a PII 350 and attempted to do a dist-upgrade last night. Here is the results of the apt-get -u dist-upgrade. My questions is why is it trying to remove the task-x-window-system-core? If I did this wouldn't I have lost my Desktop and only had text only mode? + The following packages will be REMOVED: atlas2 libctl1 task-gnome-desktop task-x-window-system-core The following NEW packages will be installed: atlas2-base coreutils dash guile-common guile1.4 libctl2 libgnet1.1-glib1 libguile-dev libltdl3-dev The following packages have been kept back balsa debian-policy tetex-bin The following packages will be upgraded ash console-data debconf debconf-utils dh-make docbook-xml fileutils gnomeicu initrd-tools latex2html libctl-dev lintian mpb sgml-data shellutils textutils xbase-clients xfree86-common xlibs xlibs-dev xserver-common xutils 22 packages upgraded, 9 newly installed, 4 to remove and 3 not upgraded. Need to get 17.1MB of archives. After unpacking 1910kB will be used. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] n Thanks Don As far as I can tell, it's only trying to remove the tasksel task of task-x-window-system-core You will see that it is upgrading some of the actualy packages (I see xfree86-common and xserver-common) required by that meta-package or task -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Lame,cdparanoia,AidioCD
I can't speak to it's very nature, but the command line tool abcde says in it's man page it does exactly as you wish. apt-get install abcde man abcde -Original Message- From: Sergey A. Ovchar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 9:06 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Lame,cdparanoia,AidioCD Hi. How can I convert several *.wav to *.mp3, by the _one_ command, using lame. I'm interesting about batch mode. Reading This F.. Manual didn't take desired effect :(. And how can I redirect output trom cdparanoia -B to the lame ? -- ,''`. Sincerely yours : :' : Sergey A. Ovchar `. `' e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] `- SMS: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm a -- MARK --'ed user.
I know I had help figuring this out a couple years ago, but I don't remember, and it's impossible to google (the dashes are stripped if you try). On my console, on a woody 486, I see, regularly... -- MARK -- [ 30 or so seconds pass] -- MARK -- And I am quite sure I do not like feeling like a -- MARK --'ed person. Help? Thx In Advancia -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: minimal impact kernel upgrade
On Tue, Jan 14, 2003 at 05:20:25PM +, Simon Tod wrote: The current kernel I'm using on my laptop - unname -r gives just 2.4.19 without any extensions (?) - doesn't support APM. Are you sure? :-) All I'm really interested in doing is and apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.19-686 and following the instructions... BUT how can I do this without screwing up all the stuff that works already like the sound, pcmcia modem, cdrw, etc. - don't know how this lot was configured in the first place as I didn't do the initial install. Thanks in advance... Sounds like you want to dig up a copy of the current kernel .config, and have it as a reference. If you have it, I'd recommend learning the debian way to make kernel packages, which can be learned with man make-kpkg, but boils down to unpacking the kernel source, then make-kpkg --revision your1 kernel-image (or, if you want the whole kit caboodle, change kernel-image to binary) it's fun -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: I'm a -- MARK --'ed user.
Thanks to Jens, Larry and Nicos. syslogd is -- MARK --'ing time on my console. -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: firewire / hfs volumes (continued)
Keep me posted, I have a similar issue, in that I'd like to buy an external drive, but need to know something very compatible. iirc, and I wouldn't make any hardware purchases based on my memory, Linux had trouble with HFS+, but not HFS. And there is an hfsplus package, which may say more. But it's a low priority issue with me, since i have everything backed up to CD right now. -Original Message- From: Matt Price [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 7:35 AM To: debian users Subject: firewire / hfs volumes (continued) sorry about the last message I run debian woody at work, and macos 9 at home. I'd like to start backing up both systems on an external ieee1394 drive (not yet purchased). I have two questions: -does woody (running on x86) work stably with hfs volumes? I seem to remember there were some issues areound it. -If I get one large drive (I'm thinking 160gb) will woody be able to see all of it? I know that there used to be some problems with the mac around large drives, but haven't found anything about linux andthis problem. - (I guess this is 3) how would folks recommend I initialize and partition the drive? From my mac, or from my woody box? Thanks as always for your help! matt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: can´t install debian on power mac G4
These instructions should work... Install Partition http://people.debian.org/~branden G4 install notes: http://cattlegrid.net/~christophe/titanium/ I kept Mac OS X. I used Drive Setup to make two partitions, installed Mac OS X on the second one (40 Gig linux, 20 Gig Mac) That's all you have to do in Mac. Then you run the debian installer, and delete and divide the first parittion you made in Drive Setup. Make all partitions HFS+ in Drive Setup. -Original Message- From: SALEH ABUZID [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 5:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: can´t install debian on power mac G4 when i start partition the hard disk i get a massage (no hard disk found) ,how should i solve this problem have been trying for many days and ican´t mange this ! Help please Thank u -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Error updating unstable non-free Packages
On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 03:06:05PM +0800, Tim Wood wrote: I get a parsing error in unstable non-free Packages, which results in Dynamic MMap ran out of room error. This occurs parsing package graphviz (NewVersion1). If this is a bug where do I report it as occuring? If not, where might the fault lie? As you asked this question, I can tell that you haven't checked in the archives. This particular question has been asked dozens of times in the past month or so, I think most recently yesterday or the day before that. Take a look in the archives. http://lists.debian.org OK, why? What changed that, all of a sudden it seems, this question is popping up all over? -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: firewire / hfs volumes (continued)
Jason Healy wrote: You might also try a filesystem type usable by both machines; FAT32 is read/writeable by both linux and mac. The only drawbacks are lack of permissions metadata, possible filename truncation to 8.3, and a file size limit of 4GB (e.g., you can't backup DVD images or large media files). Thx Jason, sounds like a plan (I have/had the same question). Before I knew what was what, I had placed a 2 Gig partition on my drive between OS X and Linux. I'll convert it to FAT32 soon. For big files over FAT32 you could try split --bytes=20 bigfile to get it into 2 Gig chunks then cat xa[a-z] reassembled on the other side. -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: mkinitrd trouble
_I_AM_NO_EXPERT_ Did you compile the kernel with cramfs, also? You didn't mention it. -Original Message- From: James Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 2:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: mkinitrd trouble Hello all I am pulling my hair trying to get Debian Woody to boot with an initrd image. I have compiled the kernel 2.4.18 with Loopback device support, RAM disk support , 8192KB, and initrd (all compiled into the kernel). I am able to run mkinird just fine 'mkinird 2.4.18-12 -o /initrd-2.4.18-12.img'. The system boots just fine with the first entry in lilo (below) but when I select 'Linux-initrd' the system is able to create the ramdrive: RAMDISK: cramfs filesystem found at block0 RAMDISK: Loading 788 blocks [1 disk] into ram disk... done Freeing initrd memory: 788k freed Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 01:00 Here is a snippet of lilo.conf default=Linux image=/vmlinuz label=Linux read-only image=/vmlinuz label=Linux-initrd initrd=/inird-2.4.18-12.img append=root=/dev/ram0 #read-only # restricted # alias=1 I'm sure there's some simple step that I'm missing and I sure would appreciate any help. Thanks, Jim James Miller Network Administrator Simutronics Corporation www.play.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: mac-fdisk
Might I recommend, http://people.debian.org/~branden/ibook c 2p -Original Message- From: Kevin Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 7:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: mac-fdisk I'm having a really bad day, I managed to do this the first time but cannot do it the second time I need to partition my hard drive for the Linux partitions. In mac-fdisk I type I to initialise the parition map. Now when I try to create a new partition it says: requested base and length is not within an existing free partition Hello This is what my partition map looks like at the moment.. /dev/hda1Apple_partition_mapApple63@1(31.5K) Partition map /dev/hda2Apple_FreeExtra40132438@64(19.1G)Free space So if I enter the command: c2, this doesn't comes up with the error about. How on earth to I create a partition? Help! Please. :) Thanks, Kevin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: 2 Question
I have the ATI Radeon Mobility 9000, is yours the mobility? (in a laptop) If so, don't bother trying to get any XConfigurator to know about it, it's still too new. I am using frame buffers. Mine's on a powerpc, so I do have different issues, but I definitely had to build my own kernel (for my 1GB ram, too) I don't have my XF86Config-4 here at work, nor my kernel .config, but, I'll send you them this evening. Maybe I can help further off list at that time. I have no idea if you'll need to do this, but I had to upgrade to testing, I also added deb http://people.debian.org/~daenzer ./ to my deb /etc/apt/sources.list for a few modules, as described below (I am lookikng and I see powerpc and i386 debs there) This page has what I did... http://cattlegrid.net/~christophe/titanium/ -Original Message- From: Vanilla [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 5:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: 2 Question 1) I bought a new server with an ati 9000, an in the instalation I selected the ATI Radeon an no Frame-Buffer. The XF86Config-4 indicate the driver is ati. I can't start X. I have another box with an mga and I can't use Frame-Buffer too, if i try to use frame-buffer I can't start X either. 2) I have 1GB of Ram and an AMD processor, so I need to use bigmem. Do I have to make a custom kernel? Tanks in advance -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: URGENT: Building kernel.
The debian way can be found, if I understand, with man make-kpkg
Kevin, I hope you'll be pleasantly surprised. I sure as expletive deleted
at author request was.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 12:21 PM
To: Irene Sygkouna
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: URGENT: Building kernel.
Before you compile your Kernel (In this case you'll need to start again) and
probably do a 'make clean' in the source directory followed by 'make
menuconfig' then find the option about RAMDISK SUPPORT - then turn it off!
then I'd 'make dep', 'make modules'.. c.
PS. I don't think this is the Debian *way* of doing the compile but I never
had a problem my way so I've never bothered to learn how to do it the Debian
way.
Anyhow, essentially the answer is to turn off the RAMDISK SUPPORT in your
Kernel Configuration seetings prior to compilation.
Hope this helps,
Kevin
Irene
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m.ntua.gr Subject: URGENT: Building
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01/16/03
04:18 PM
Dear all,
I am installing the linux kernel 2.4.18 in debian following the instructions
found in the url:
http://subwiki.honeypot.net/cgi-bin/view/Main/DebianKernelBuilding?skin=prin
t
At the final step for installing the new kernel and module packages: dpkg
-i {list of .deb packages from the previous step} I receive the following
error message:
rena2:/usr/src# dpkg -i kernel-image-2.4.18myhost1_10.00.Custom_i386.deb
(Reading database ... 54323 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace kernel-image-2.4.18myhost1 10.00.Custom (using
kernel-image
-2.4.18myhost1_10.00.Custom_i386.deb) ...
You are attempting to install an initrd kernel image (version
2.4.18myhost1)
This will not work unless you have configured your boot loader to use
initrd. (An initrd image is a kernel image that expects to use an INITial
Ram Disk to mount a minimal root file system into RAM and use that for
booting). As a reminder, in order to configure lilo, you need to add an
'initrd=/initrd.img' to the image=/vmlinuz stanza of your /etc/lilo.conf I
repeat, You need to configure your boot loader. If you have already done so,
and you wish to get rid of this message, please put
`do_initrd = Yes'
in /etc/kernel-img.conf. Note that this is optional, but if you do not,
you'll contitnue to see this message whenever you install a kernel image
using initrd. Do you want to stop now? [Y/n]n Unpacking replacement
kernel-image-2.4.18myhost1 ... Setting up kernel-image-2.4.18myhost1
(10.00.Custom) ... Failed to create initrd image.
dpkg: error processing kernel-image-2.4.18myhost1 (--install): subprocess
post-installation script returned error exit status 2 Errors were
encountered while processing: kernel-image-2.4.18myhost1 rena2:/usr/src#
Could you please help me???
I'm looking foward for your answer.
Rena.
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RE: how to maintain /var on a debian system
This is my favorite DU for investigating these things... du --summarize --human-readable * (executed from /var, at first) -Original Message- From: nick lidakis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 11:21 PM To: Debian Subject: how to maintain /var on a debian system I have tried googling and looking at ldp.org for this answer, but I can't seem to find anything relevant. How does one maintain /var? I'm trying to apt-get dist-upgrade my laptop and it's telling me I dont have enough space to hold all the debs. df shows 92% used out a 300MB partition. /var seems to be slowly filling up, but what can I safely delete from var to trim it down? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: I do not have Super Cow Powers
Geek elitism _exists_solely_to_destroy_ Geek elitism We are obviously making geek elitism _so_ attractive that everyone wants to become one of the geek elite Which will make the term meaningless, and end geek elitism forever. Now, elitism based on something unchangeable and uncontrollable, (e.g. where the person was born, or to whom) is what has to go. Even a first year frobnitz can see this. -Original Message- From: Crispin Wellington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 2:06 PM To: Debian Users Subject: Re: I do not have Super Cow Powers On Sat, 2003-01-11 at 12:34, Paul Johnson wrote: If none of this makes sense to you, you probably shouldn't be calling yourself a geek and should sell your computer and switch to WebTV or something a little less fun. Humour can stay, but geek elitism must die. (That goes for all elitist geeks out there). Crispin -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Big difference in antialiasing
From: Craig Dickson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 4:51 PM [snip] Display resolution has, of course, been increasing gradually for years. Eventually we'll reach a point where the jaggies recede into near-invisibility. At that point, there will be much less need for anti-aliasing, but we're not there yet. [end snip] At that point, the blurriness nature of anti-aliasing will also smaller. shrug / -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
DPKG suggestion
Ok, there was a thread [1] on curiosa that had lots of talk about old computers (low ram) running dselect and dpkg, and how it could be _interminable_. Several people suggested solutions in the thread, I am not qualified to comment [1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-curiosa/2003/debian-curiosa-200301/msg00015.h tml http://lists.debian.org/debian-curiosa/2003/debian-curiosa-200301/msg00015. html [2] http://lists.debian.org/debian-curiosa/2003/debian-curiosa-200301/msg00038.h tml http://lists.debian.org/debian-curiosa/2003/debian-curiosa-200301/msg00038. html [3] http://lists.debian.org/debian-curiosa/2003/debian-curiosa-200301/msg00048.h tml http://lists.debian.org/debian-curiosa/2003/debian-curiosa-200301/msg00048. html There whole field of handhelds has very real limitations for memory issues, so they developed their own dpkg-clone. [1] http://www.handhelds.org http://www.handhelds.org [2] http://www.handhelds.org/z/wiki/iPKG http://www.handhelds.org/z/wiki/iPKG And in the last week or two here, I've seen at least three people who's apt-get update died for the same MMAP error. [1] um, you've seen 'em Possible solution 1: Make memory requirements a medium level configuration option for dpkg. Possible solution 2: Make a dpkg-tiny. Possible solution 3: Rework ipkg to be compliant with dpkg (available at the handhelds site) (i have no idea how feasible this is, probably _not_ the best idea, but the handhelds people might like it ;) Possible solution 4: Ignore the low-memory crowd. :( Possible solutions 5 and beyond: These solutions are left as an exercise for the reader. -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Icon manager geometry in TWM
TWM, I'd gather, has very few dependencies, making it a good choice for an install disk. Other than that, I haven't heard echoes of enjoyment from its users. I don't think it's ever come near top for what's the best window manager poll) If you like the non-obtrusive nature of twm (i have to admit it's nice to be confronted with nothing, sometimes), blackbox fluxbox and ion have recently been mentioned. I use blackbox, myself, and it has a pretty readable .blackboxrc, too. -Original Message- From: Florian Sukup [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 7:15 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Icon manager geometry in TWM Hi, I'm new to Debian and using the very old window manager twm. I've already spent much time to solve that problem but no success: In my .twmrc file there is a line: IconManagerGeometry =71x24-0+86 But it simply ignores the value 24, no matter what I enter there. At my SuSE Linux the default height was acceptable but the Debian Icons are too high by default. Does anyone know how to change it??? Thanks in advance, Florian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: do I really need to be in all those /etc/groups?
I was wondering something similar myself. But, sadly, groups don't cascade or anything, so you can not do something like all_hardware_group:x:user1 just_cdrom_group:x:user2 and find any sort of perms on /dev/cdrom (or your local equivalent) that will let that work. Of course, on my single user machine, the hardware group plan will work fine. -Original Message- From: Dan Jacobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 1:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: do I really need to be in all those /etc/groups? Just look at me, $ id uid=1000(jidanni) gid=1000(jidanni) groups=1000(jidanni),20(dialout),24(cdrom),29(audio),1004(scanner) My latest addgroup was disk, so I wouldn't get error messages when eject(1)ing USBs. However $ find /dev |wc -l 5142 $ find /dev -group disk -perm -20|wc -l 4006 that gives me write permission to most of /dev. By the way, those error messages were eject: unable to open `/dev/sda1' #if my id(1) is not in the group disk, or eject: unable to eject, last error: Invalid argument #if it is. Either way, it still does its job. One has to be root to not get the annoying messages. System is debian 2.4.19-k7. Another item is I can switch groups with ease, $ newgrp disk $ newgrp dialout $ newgrp jidanni Password: ** Sorry. Except for my own group, which fails when I give my login passwd... Maybe I didn't read the manual. But more exciting is when run in a emacs *shell* window, $ newgrp disk Segmentation fault $ newgrp dialout Segmentation fault $ newgrp jidanni Password: ** Sorry. $ newgrp audio Segmentation fault $ reportbug -f newgrp P.S. even after doing # deluser user group #(PPS: can use addgroup this way but not delgroup!) the processes still have those privileges until they die. But I guess that is how the system is designed. -- http://jidanni.org/ Taiwan(04)25854780 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Kernel for PowerPC (AppleMac)
Title: Message For powerpc, you can't really go wrong here... http://www.penguinppc.com (I actuallymeant penguinppc.org, but once i checked, I realized this was better) -Original Message-From: Kevin Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 4:21 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Kernel for PowerPC (AppleMac) Hi, Are there any PowerMac G3 Beige users out there with a Kernel (uncompressed) I can use with BootX? I cannot find anything on the net at all, it seems it's not very well supported? Thanks, Kevin -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice.
RE: Unhappy, Bouncing, CDs
At a time before now, my mail client suggested Mike wrote: On Wed, 8 Jan 2003, Narins, Josh wrote: Someone (who sounded wise) suggested my troubles began when Apple upgraded the firmware without telling me, a few days back. Is this music cd one of those copyprotected ones? At the risk of revealing your musical preferences, which ones have you tried? Mike You hit the nail on the head, Mike. This was my first hands on experience with this type of garbage, and it was on one of my old schoolmate's CD, too! All the best music has already been made, anyway. (using the logic that it can't be best if it doesn't exist is obviously a very linear-forward-time-biased way to operate, but i find that works well in tons of situations, driving, for instance) -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: gcc-2.95 to -3.2 transition
I wouldn't know better, but I did hear someone give a talk (mostly over my head) about the differences, the one phrase that stuck in my head was ABI, and this article sorta confirms that... http://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-3.2/c++-abi.html -Original Message- From: csj [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 12:16 PM To: Debian User Subject: gcc-2.95 to -3.2 transition What's the real deal on the gcc-2.95 to gcc-3.2 transition? I've read enough FUD I can't distinguish the facts. Particularly, what programs or libraries are actually affected? What havoc would result from compiling the kernel or X with 3.2 on a largely Testing system (since Testing has gcc-2.95 as the default compiler)? Could the g(n)urus please speak up? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Command line apt bot
Is there a command line interface to /msg apt? I can afford to cache a lot of the silly stuff in order to get the stuff I want. -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: restricting wireless access
move to a higher apt sorry, i am very bad if the pun has apt in it what about . . . wireless . . . [wirelesshub]--[loginbox]-internet login to the loginbox (only ssh open to start) then restrict all access to your IP for the session it would take a few scripts -Original Message- From: martin f krafft [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 6:11 PM To: debian users Subject: restricting wireless access i have a cheap-ass wireless access point which doesn't even do MAC-based authentication, and neither can I get WEP64 to work between it (Addtron AWS-110) and the Orinoco Silver card. I would like to have wireless in my appartment, but I need to prevent folks on the street from linking into the network. The question is how. I want to prevent them from using my internet connection just as much as accessing local computers behind the firewall. Is there a tools that will send TCP resets to anything coming from an unknown MAC address? this isn't 100% secure, but it's better than nothing. Or is there a tool that uses a client program to establish the identity of the host (like they have in some internet cafes to prevent you from using the cables for laptops, even if you change the MAC), and if someone connects without the client program, then s/he is TCP reset for every packet sent? or is there a better solution? maybe someone can help me get WEP to work... -- Please do not CC me! Mutt (www.mutt.org) can handle this automatically. .''`. martin f. krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] : :' :proud Debian developer, admin, and user `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing a system NOTE: The pgp.net keyservers and their mirrors are broken! Get my key here: http://people.debian.org/~madduck/gpg/330c4a75.asc -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Unhappy, Bouncing, CDs
On Monday, January 06, 2003 7:06 PM, Mark L. Kahnt wrote: On Mon, 2003-01-06 at 15:10, Narins, Josh wrote: If I insert an ISO CD into the drive, everything is honky-dory. If I insert a music CD into the drive, after about 30 seconds it comes back out. Sounds like you are running one of a few packages that monitors removable media drives and automagically mounts them when it sees them - one that doesn't understand audio CDs in its array of formats. That's no the problem. I don't have an automounter running, and I don't have the automounting kernel support compiled in. I took out devfs, and I have the same problem. For completeness, it bounces only music CDs, not DVDs, not ISOs, not CD-R blanks. But it's worse than I thought, it's a hardware issue. Because when I boot into Mac OS X, the same thing happens. Only music CDs bounce. Yes, I have installed the firmware upgrade available at http://www.apple.com/hardware/superdrive Someone (who sounded wise) suggested my troubles began when Apple upgraded the firmware without telling me, a few days back. -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: having problem serving multitude virtualhosts
Instead of a single file, log to a single process, which can handle any variety of situations. For instance, it could cache 100 hits to each virtual server before it rights to the log, and it also flushes to disk when the server produces error log output. HTH -Original Message- From: Imre Oolberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 2:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: having problem serving multitude virtualhosts Hi! I am thinking of serving some hundreds virtualhosts each with separate log and errorlog on PC having 768 MB RAM and 2 GB swap using Debian Woody and debian package kernel 2.4.18. From some point apache didnt start, giving error like Too many open files: unable to open a file descriptor above 15, you may need to increase the number of descriptors Obviously it helped to insert into the /etc/init.d/apache ulimit -S -n 8192 And after some time we discovered that CGI scripts started to behave strangely, giving only headers or just hanging. Anyway, in the errorlog was different message [Sat Jan 4 21:49:08 2003] [warn] send body: filedescriptor (1137) larger than FD_SETSIZE (1024) found, you probably need to rebuild Apache with a larger FD_SETSIZE I searched the web and found out one recommendation of compiling apache with rised DF_SETSIZE. So i added in the debian/rules the following value to the CONFLAGS -DFD_SETSIZE=4096 And while building deb source package i recieved those warnings gcc -c -I../os/unix -I../include -DLINUX=22 -DTARGET=\apache\ -I/usr/include/db1 -DDEV_RANDOM=/dev/random -DUSE_HSREGEX -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -O1 -DFD_SETSIZE=4096 `../apaci` ap_slack.c In file included from /usr/include/sys/types.h:215, from ../include/ap_config.h:86, from ../include/httpd.h:72, from ap_slack.c:67: /usr/include/sys/select.h:77: warning: `FD_SETSIZE' redefined *Initialization*:1: warning: this is the location of the previous definition At the beginnging it seemed, these manipulations have taken care of the problem, but before too long i noticed the same FD_SETSIZE warnings again. Please, could you give me some advice what to do besides to distribute virtual hosts between to servers :) Also, i found hints from the internet that changing FD_SETSIZE aint easy matter and actually one needs to change it systemwide? Searching lists around httpd.apache.org i found a suggestion of writing all logs into one place (pipe?) and sepatating them afterwards. Althought it could be somewhat solution, is there some other (preferrably counfigurable) way of doing it? Best Regards, Imre Oolberg -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Unhappy, Bouncing, CDs
On Wednesday, January 08, 2003 4:42 PM, Ron Johnson wrote On Wed, 2003-01-08 at 08:50, Narins, Josh wrote: On Monday, January 06, 2003 7:06 PM, Mark L. Kahnt wrote: On Mon, 2003-01-06 at 15:10, Narins, Josh wrote: [snip] Yes, I have installed the firmware upgrade available at http://www.apple.com/hardware/superdrive Someone (who sounded wise) suggested my troubles began when Apple upgraded the firmware without telling me, a few days back. You're kidding, right??? Me? Kid? About what someone said in #debian, on irc.freenode.net? Never. Well, unless the comic effect would be just so monumental that I'd earn immortality. This, Mr. Johnson, is not one of those occasions. The CDs worked a week ago, in both Mac and Linux, they don't work now in either. -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unhappy, Bouncing, CDs
This has only started happening since I got devfs working. If I insert an ISO CD into the drive, everything is honky-dory. If I insert a music CD into the drive, after about 30 seconds it comes back out. hmm, not sure what info would be useful. debian sarge, 2.4.20-benh (Ben Herrenschmidt's PowerPC kernel) Yes, I'm sure devfsd is running correctly. It's definitely not mission critical, but it's nice to be able to show off the piece of art on my desk, so maybe other people will use Debian. :) -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: hard drive partitioning questions
You don't *need* any partitions other than /. Creating separate partitions for /, /usr, /home, /tmp, /var, /usr/local, /boot, /var/spool, /var/www, etc., is a _convenience_ for better managing your system. And a real time saver, too! Every other boot one of my partitions is fsck'ed for having been mounted 20+ times. But if the whole thing was fsck'ed at once, I might be fck'ed (if I was in a big hurry, for example) -Original Message- From: Karsten M. Self [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 10:02 PM To: debian-user Subject: Re: hard drive partitioning questions on Tue, Dec 31, 2002 at 05:12:21PM -0500, Nori Heikkinen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: thanks to all who responded -- this has been immensely useful. right now i'm thinking: / 100M /usr 3G /tmp 100M /var 3G swap 384M /home rest That looks better. Probably a bit rich for /var. I'd also do 3-4 swap partitions, each 1-2 x the size of your current memory allocation. Here's why: - You want your swap roughly paired with your memory allocation. Swap = 1x or 2x memory is the standard guideline. Usually a new system has only a fraction of the total possible system memory. Count on maxing your RAM as the system grows, so you're going to want an allocation (available swap partitions) of ~2x your maximum possible RAM. Since having _too_ much swap can result in sluggish performance (your system swaps and lags while doing it), you'll want to cut this allocation up into reasonable chunks. - IMO 1GB is sufficient for /var on a baseline Debian system, where the primarly use is storing package archives. If you're running special-purpose servers (particularly logging, usenet, mail, database, or very large website), you may want to add to your /var allocation, though creating dedicated partitions may also be useful. Advantages of partitioning: management of space, ability to specify performance or security related options (nodev, nosuid, blocksize, async mounts, etc.). Disadvantages: more things to think about. a couple questions more: - i need to make / bootable, right? Usually. - i don't think i need a /usr/local, as i don't think i usually download and compile a lot from non-debian sources ... but i might be wrong on that one. what do most people have in theirs? You don't *need* any partitions other than /. Creating separate partitions for /, /usr, /home, /tmp, /var, /usr/local, /boot, /var/spool, /var/www, etc., is a _convenience_ for better managing your system. If you don't mount an additional filesystem at a particular point, then that directory tree simply resides on the parent filesystem. In your case, /usr/local will be on the /usr filesystem. now, what i'm most confused on: - if i can only have 3 primary partitions if i want more than 4 partitions total, do i just designate the first three (/, /usr, and /tmp) as the primary ones, and then just keep partitioning my merry way along, designating all the rest to be logical? will that work, or do i need to make four partitions, and somehow subdivide the last one into the rest of the partitions i want? i think it's the former and i'm just confusing myself ... please correct me if i'm wrong here. If you have more than four partitions, you partition anywhere from 0-3 as primary partitions, have at least one extended partition, and the remainder are logical partitions within the extended partition(s). In practice, I generally use 3 primary, one extended, and the remainder logical, partitions. - i *do* need to specifically partition /home as its own partition, right? No, see above. Though it's generally useful practice. Peace. -- Karsten M. Self [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What Part of Gestalt don't you understand? Geek for hire: http://kmself.home.netcom.com/resume.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,
IPod is ARM, after all
I haven't heard any actual notes on any attempts to actually install linux on an ipod (rather than mount the ipod as a drive). Burning an ARM woody CD shouldn't be that hard, especially since it will be mounted on a separate platform (no worries about iso - ARM incompatibilities). I know I have a boot partition and a data partition (/dev/sda1 and /dev/sda2) I guess next I'd want to get the processor's command line and have it boot the CD? Then I'd have a gazillion screen and keyboard issues, I'd wager, but I'd like to help make some progress on this. /trying to be too cool -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Problme with woody installation
You do not boot from yaboot before installation, only after. http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/powerpc/install.es.html -Original Message- From: Gilberto Hernandez Cardenas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 3:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Problme with woody installation hi I tried install woody in a PowerPC Dual (newworld with 2 HD), start yaboot, but not recognize any HD. So I can´t install the system. How can fixed this problem?. I tried boot yaboot from HD, but doesnt work. Thanks for any advice Gilberto -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: hard drive partitioning questions
If this is _just_ a kick around machine, / and swap are fine. But, if you are accepting incoming email, and there is the slightest chance you might be flooded with 2 Gigabytes of email (3 attachments from your dear relative!) you will want /var on it's own. /tmp on its own is really more of a multi-user thing, in my head. That way they can all have a place to have all user's files (world-writable). In that situation, it also makes sense to make sure nothing can go haywire, and hence put it on its own partition. -Original Message- From: Michael P. Soulier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 8:11 AM To: debian-user Subject: Re: hard drive partitioning questions On 31/12/02 Nori Heikkinen did speaketh: i just bought a new 80G hard drive. i should partition the whole thing, right? i'm thinking: /dev/hda1 -- / (Linux (83)) -- 100M (is this appropriate?) /dev/hda2 -- /usr (83) -- 1G (too much?) /dev/hda3 -- swap (82) -- 128M (i have that much physical RAM, and that should be sufficient, right?) should i make this hda1? /dev/hda3 -- /var -- 2 or 3 G, as per suggestion of [1] (i like apt) /dev/hda4 -- /tmp -- 50M-ish? /dev/hda5 -- /home -- the rest, all for me :) All you really need is swap and /. Making all these partitions ensures that none can overflow into the other, but it's difficult to forsee exactly what your needs will be. For example, I have a 100M /tmp partition, and I thought that would be plenty. Then I started using VMWare. I'm running out of /tmp space regularly now. I really don't see a problem with just swap and /. Mike -- Michael P. Soulier [EMAIL PROTECTED], GnuPG pub key: 5BC8BE08 ...the word HACK is used as a verb to indicate a massive amount of nerd-like effort. -Harley Hahn, A Student's Guide to Unix HTML Email Considered Harmful: http://expita.com/nomime.html -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: SCSI emulation for IDE CD-writer
Speaking of this... I had a kernel which was just missing the SCSI emulation modules. Was there a way I could have _just_ built the modules I needed, and not needed to rebuild the whole kernel? Are there any modules that can work like that? --thanks SAP -Original Message- From: Steve Doerr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 7:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: SCSI emulation for IDE CD-writer Thanks for the info, Bob! I overlooked the SCSI cd support when I built my kernel. It's working perfectly now. Steve -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: getty and inittab
IGNORE THIS MESSAGE! I think init q re-reads inittab. But, a long time ago, on a job, I did init -q on a SysV box, or was it BSD? Regardless, it was the wrong one, and I rebooted all our production machines in the middle of a run. So, that's why I say you should ignore me telling you to issue any init commands. -Original Message- From: Niclas Söderlund [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 9:16 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: getty and inittab hiya folks, if I need to remove all of the tty's except number one, I suppose I just comment out the 2-6 tty's in inittab. But how do I kill off the five already running getty's ? If I try a kill -9 I only get a new fresh restarted getty imediately. I dont want a reboot, Niclas | | | | | Niclas Söderlund | | | | | All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Problem with blank screen w/ ATI All-In-Wonder Radeon
Not much I can help with your ATI problem, but I've had graphics cards troubles before. You are running stable? I think that means you are using Xfree's 3.x line, but I'm not 100%. In the olden days, say, 1999 or 2000, one would use XConfigurator dpkg -S XConfigurator Check for ATI support at the xfree86 site If you are using 3.3.6, this is the list to check http://www.xfree86.org/cardlist.html If you are using 4.x, this is the list for the most current stable X release http://www.xfree86.org/current/Status6.html#6 If it is _on_ the list, it's just a RTM problem. Otherwise, it might be some sort of hack, trick or impossible. HTH -Original Message- From: Hal Vaughan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2002 8:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Problem with blank screen w/ ATI All-In-Wonder Radeon I finally got Debian to install -- the packages that could not install were all in Tasksel's desktop selection. When selecting modules to load, I selected ATI Radeon for DRM, and selected ATI Radeon (I can't remember if it said ATI Radeon or just Radeon) for the video card. I've tried installing by using Framebuffers and not using them in X. I was trying to install w/ a resolution of 1152x8?? (can't remember), which I've done with this computer and monitor before, but when I had problems, I changed and used only resolutions of 800x600 and less. Debian installs okay, and after the install, if I run X Windows, I get a blank screen. The monitor, which can detect a video signal, seems to be switching on and off -- like it has a signal, then doesn't. Control-Alt-Backspace does not do anything I can see. After repeatedly pressing Control-Alt-F2, I finally got to my second console (the first was the one I ran StartX in) and was able to do a ps -ax. I ended up just killing X. I wanted to try an app that I've seen open it's own screen, so I did apt-get install tuxracer and ran that. I've got a blank screen and can't seem to get back to a console with control-alt-Fx. I've tried searching the archives, but for some reason the search system is NOT responding (usually I find it slow, but tonight I'm not getting anything). So it boils down to 3 questions: 1) What program can I run from the command line to configure/reconfigure X? 2) Has anyone had a similar problem and know what I need? Do I need the GATOS drivers for ATI? 3) Can anyone at all tell me what's going on, or at least tell me what M to RTFM? Thanks! Hal (Is it true that once a Linux user finally gets over the install hurdle, they find Debian the best distro out there? Is it worth all this when I can get the same system up and running w/ Mandrake but still have to face RPM hell?) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Macintosh formatted FD's usable in Debian?
Interestingly, I was googling all over the place and I found that if you want a dual boot debian/macos machine (like me!), and you want to transfer files between the 2 OSes, you should probably use a windows (fat) partition. And here you are, doing almost the same thing. There might be a future for windows, after all. -Original Message- From: Toku [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2002 8:31 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Macintosh formatted FD's usable in Debian? Hi, Hfsutils does the job! I have managed to transfer a file from the Linux box to the Mac using a floppy and from one word processor to another without even loosing the formatting of the text (!). That's just what I was looking for. And it's even easy to do. I was thinking of using DOS formatted disks in the first place but Old Mac (OS D1-7.1) doesn't seem to know about the DOS disk format yet. I could have found out about hfsutils myself if I had searched apt more closely...hm... Thanks for your fast and helpful responses. Toku - Sign up Now!! Get your email at theLinuxBox.com. GO to http://theLinuxBox.com/cgi/signup.cgi .. Sign up Now!! - -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Woody Flavors by CD
I used jigdo-lite to burn myself a powerpc and i386 CD #1 of woody... But now I remember (with a reminder) that different CDs start different installations? But then I found this link, which asks users to test the new Woody CD plan, which will allow any install from CD#1 (author, Ralph Hertzog) http://lwn.net/2002/0411/a/deb-woodycd.php3 http://lwn.net/2002/0411/a/deb-woodycd.php3 Did this actually happen? Could someone tell me how I was supposed to know? :) -josh P.S. I've not been a Debian developer, but I am a Debian Advocate, which makes me a non-commissioned salesperson for a free product. But since I don't even expect my flock to build me a temple or feed me, I'd say I was one up on even the Buddhists, not to mention Gilt Rome. P.P.S. Anyone who wants to build me a temple is free to do so, but you all knew that. P.P.P.S. My birthday is June 2, in case you want to make it a surprise birthday present. :op -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Installing a new kernel...
Title: Message Is there any chance you were in TWM, Tim(Tom's?) Window Manager? It's just a big blue screen, until you start clicking. I'm no smart guy on kernel upgrades (I've never tried it via apt, for instance) but that blue color rings a bell. The other suggestion is correct, type Ctrl-Alt-F1 to get a console to see what is going on. -Original Message-From: alan brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 3:26 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Installing a new kernel... I used apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.18-386 to update my kernel. I added a line to lilo.conf regarding initrd=/initrd.img (or whatever it was that I was told to do while the new kernel was being installed). Everything went swimmingly. When I rebooted my system, I couldn't see any problems with the modules being loaded and the devices being checked. But, just as I was expecting it to offer me the graphical login screen, the whole screen went blank (not black though, it's cyan or turquoise or a bluey green or...). I was able to reboot and then use LILO to boot my old kernel so everything is under control, but I'm not sure what I did wrong in the install. The instructions were pretty straightforward. /vmlinuz points to the new kernel. /vmlinuz.old points to the old one. It was all done for me during the install. In fact, the only thing I had to do was put the aforementioned line in lilo.conf Any pointers would be appreciated... alan -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice.
RE: installation question
I'm _pretty_ confident that the files you downloaded include enough to get the apropos drivers working. By the way, getting to the point where you burn your own boot CD is nice (today I am going to loan it to a friend) -Original Message- From: Joris Huizer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 10:13 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: installation question Hello everybody, I just joined this list so sorry if my question has allready been questioned before. I'm thinking about installing the Debian linux distribution. I'm currently using RedHat 8.0 but it seems the messed a bit and some programs won't install (Including nedit, koules) - hopefully they will under Debian :-) I haven't installed Debian before - so I don't know how it works. I found at http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch-install-methods.en.html, section 4.4, that I can install after downloading a few files without boot floppies. Now, my question, is about the part about lilo, http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch-rescue-boot.en.html#s-boot-ini trd - it says, - You should now see the debian installer dbootstrap running. If you do not use any removable medium, you want to check very early that your network connection is working and before irreversibly partitioning your hard disk. So you maybe need to insmod some additional kernel modules for this, for instance for your network interface... - Well, rather than just try or something I thought I better ask :-) how can make it load the network interface, the ethernet card and stuff? Thanks in advance, Joris Huizer __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Gender Balanced True Govt Already Present For World Peace
Does anyone use Dr. Bronner's All-One-God-Faith naturals soaps? This human sounds like they were peeled off the label. Dr. Bronner's All-One-God-Faith Lightning-Like Unite-All-Mankind! Hear me, O Israel! -Original Message- From: Gender Balanced World Peace [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2002 6:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Gender Balanced True Govt Already Present For World Peace Gender Balanced True Government Already Spread Upon the Earth and Being Born Everywhere Only Gender Balanced True Government (and Gender Balanced Global Diplomacy Organizations) Will Bring Forth/Sustain Prosperity and World Peace (UK, US and Iraq all still Mostly-Monogenderments; Ranked 47, 58 and 93 in world gender balance; Terrorism and Mideast unhelped by UN that's itself still a Monogenderment) This email is Circulating among millions of university students, staff and professors, peace and democracy activists, and in internet forums around the world in at least 45 countries and on every continent. Until transcendant events unfold to quickly bring gender balanced, racially and ethnically reconciliatory true government and fully inclusive democracy to office in all the world, we face global disaster, emergency and degradation beyond our worst nightmares in the next months or years. Yet, in this Season of global Good Will in the age of global interconnection, this transcendant Miracle of Balance, Peace and Provident Sustainability is Everywhere Being Welcomed and Born... Thus, the crises of world mostly-monogenderment, may well be the path and prelude to, and the greatest opportunity for, all our whole human and Holy awakening of consciousness: The Awareness of Gender Balanced True Government is Being Born and Awakened Everywhere on Earth. A new consensus on the definition of government is developing worldwide. If an officialdom hasn't achieved 75% gender balance (at least 37.5% offices held by women as well as 37.5% held by men), it does not have democracy and is not seen as a true government, party or election, nor a globally fit diplomatic organization. If it is not at least that balanced, it cannot sustain peace and provident prosperity, as well as interracial and international reconciliation for our world. Such an entity is, then, a mostly monogenderment and not a true, spiritually ethical government, until such balance of male and female is achieved to consider all problems and together find the best future for each and all the worlds' regions, and with others on our interconnected earth. In fact, Gender Balanced True Government is and has Always Been Inherently Present and Spread Throughout the Earth. Humankind needs only to bring it to full Empowerment, in awareness first and then urgently and quickly to office, to bring forth the full synergistic wisdom of it. In addition to the countries of Scandinavia, (Sweden, Denmark, Finland, Norway and Iceland) many more countries are at or very near gender balance, such as Costa Rica, Netherlands, Germany, France (Gender Parite), Argentina, Mozambique, South Africa, New Zealand, India (legislation in progress), Canada (Senate). and others; so are many provinces and states, such as California in the US, many in Africa, China and India in Asia, and Europe among others, and so are thousands of cities all continents, especially Europe, (all cities in France enjoy gender 50-50), most global unions, parties, universities, as well as thousands of cities, schools boards, and philanthropic and community organizations. According to the website of the International Parliamentary Union (IPU), which is seen by many as the partner organizations to the UN, the US is ranked 58 in gender balance, the UK, ranked 49, and Iraq, ranked 93. These, then, are mostly-monogenderments, and not yet True Governments capable of sustainability without danger to their own citizens, world populations and Nature; their technology has outpaced their whole democracy and humanity. Even more importantly, the still gender imbalanced UN itself, has been unable to peacefully resolve many of the numerous difficulties of the world, including those of the Mideast that many are especially reminded of in this Season. The UN's, and especially the so-called Security Council member countries' decades of lack of sufficient attention to the gender balance concept in their own leadership and functioning, (that has been raised with them by many groups below), has, in large part, exascerbated the present world crises, especially in the Middle East, but also lead to dramatic backsliding in democracy in the US and UK, as well. All this has had ramifications for worldwide cultural reconciliations as well as energy and environmental strategies involving the entire planet for good or ill - indeed, the very life of the planet itself. The crises will resolve when the UN leadership begins to work with the IPU leadership, along with other world citizens, as gender balanced
RE: Installing a new kernel...
Title: Message This is way over my head, but it sounds like your choice of "getty" is broken?bad? The process that should be listening for logins on consoles 1 through 6 is called getty, or mingetty, or some othe replacement dpkg-reconfigure it? It's definitely not an X problem, since you say that works. -Original Message-From: alan brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 12:09 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: Installing a new kernel... You were right. At least, sort of. When I did ctrl-alt-F1, I just got a blank, black screen. The same with ctrl-alt-F2 - ctrl-alt-F6. But when I did ctrl-alt-F7, up popped the gnome login manager. I was then able to log in just fine and confirm I was running the new kernel. So I tried rebooting to see if my problem was permanently cured, but it happened again, exactly the same way. And even after I had logged in, I was still unable to get to a text console with ctrl-alt-Fx. Has anyone else ever noticed this problem. I don't see why it would be an x86-config4 problem as once I've logged in the mouse and key board work fine. alan -Original Message-From: Narins, Josh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 7:51 AMTo: 'alan brown'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: Installing a new kernel... Is there any chance you were in TWM, Tim(Tom's?) Window Manager? It's just a big blue screen, until you start clicking. I'm no smart guy on kernel upgrades (I've never tried it via apt, for instance) but that blue color rings a bell. The other suggestion is correct, type Ctrl-Alt-F1 to get a console to see what is going on. -Original Message-From: alan brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 3:26 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Installing a new kernel... I used apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.18-386 to update my kernel. I added a line to lilo.conf regarding initrd=/initrd.img (or whatever it was that I was told to do while the new kernel was being installed). Everything went swimmingly. When I rebooted my system, I couldn't see any problems with the modules being loaded and the devices being checked. But, just as I was expecting it to offer me the graphical login screen, the whole screen went blank (not black though, it's cyan or turquoise or a bluey green or...). I was able to reboot and then use LILO to boot my old kernel so everything is under control, but I'm not sure what I did wrong in the install. The instructions were pretty straightforward. /vmlinuz points to the new kernel. /vmlinuz.old points to the old one. It was all done for me during the install. In fact, the only thing I had to do was put the aforementioned line in lilo.conf Any pointers would be appreciated... alan --This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice.
RE: Nvi recovery program please shove off
In what was is vimdiff stunnning? Should one open vimdiff with two files that are close to identical, all the large sections which are identical will be automaticall collapsed, and the remaining areas are coloored to indicate the differences, including helping you to the point in the line where the difference begins. Ctrl-W Ctrl-W seems to skip between windows. Once you are there :help vimdiff will introduce you to the vim documentation on it (considerably more verbose, but also leaving many more unanswered questions) :help works, also, to get a feel for how VIM's documentation works Best o' Luck /bin/ed indeed. -Original Message- From: Pigeon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 10:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Nvi recovery program please shove off On Tue, Dec 17, 2002 at 03:45:18PM -0500, sean finney wrote: heya looking at the script that's producing this (/etc/init.d/nviboot), it seems that the directory you want to look at is /var/tmp/vi.recover. anything in there? sean Ah-HA! Yes. There it was! Two files, named recover.a00396 and vi.a00396 - no wonder the find didn't show anything. Just deleted them, and ran the script by hand for a check. No annoying messages. Thanks! On Tue, Dec 17, 2002 at 15:41:44 -0500, Narins, Josh wrote: Hi Pigeon, Does your `find` find dot files? (experiments) WHEEE!! Thanks for that. No, it doesn't. Not the problem here, but might well be somewhere else in the future. Useful to know. Whenever I've needed to find a dot file so far I've known what directory to look in, so ls -a does the trick. I use another vi-clone, vim, which saves the temporary files as .filename.swp vimdiff (part of the vim package) is really quite stunning, and perhaps a reason to learn VI Tell me more - in what way is it stunning? My first ever contact with vi was on my first ever contact with Unix, on a VAX 11/780. The choice was ed or vi. I used ed. Now, on my Linux box, I still use ed for little changes and for things where I want to retain the context of what I'm doing and not have it wiped out by a full-screen editor; a basic customisation of jed for small-to-medium jobs (that's what I'm in at the moment), and rhide for coding, which is a Linux clone of the Borland Turbo C IDE - I love that IDE. There's some dispute as to how 'free' it is, since it uses a Linux port of the Borland Turbo Vision library whose 'free' status is disputable, but I have a pukka copy of Turbo C anyway so no problem. Thanks, Pigeon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Eterm title magic?
This link includes effective instructions for making the prompt change based on what you are doing. http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-tip-prompt/ The current title of one of my exceed terminals is user@host /path/to/current/dir and when I use VIM it becomes filename = (/path/to/file) but VIM is doing that itself. www.vim.org or apt-get install vim -Original Message- From: Robert L. Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 2:10 PM To: Debian Users Subject: Eterm title magic? I know with Eterm -T 'foo' I can set the title for my Eterm, but is it possible to have it set to whatever is going on in my Term? A co-worker using xterm has it set up so the title changes if he ssh's to a different box, etc. Thoughts, theories, suggestions? :wq! --- Robert L. Harris | PGP Key ID: FC96D405 DISCLAIMER: These are MY OPINIONS ALONE. I speak for no-one else. FYI: perl -e 'print $i=pack(c5,(41*2),sqrt(7056),(unpack(c,H)-2),oct(115),10);' -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Nvi recovery program please shove off
Hi Pigeon, Does your `find` find dot files? I use another vi-clone, vim, which saves the temporary files as .filename.swp vimdiff (part of the vim package) is really quite stunning, and perhaps a reason to learn VI -Josh -Original Message- From: Pigeon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 3:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Nvi recovery program please shove off Hi, The other day something dumped me into vi, which I got out of by my usual method of trying every key combination I can think of, swearing a lot and doing kill -9 from another vc. Now I keep getting this mail every time I boot up: (headers snipped) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nvi recovery program) Subject: Nvi saved the file L367-13TMP.c On Sat Dec 14 21:48:32 2002, the user pigeon was editing a file named /tmp/L367-13TMP.c on the machine pigeon, when it was saved for recovery. You can recover most, if not all, of the changes to this file using the -r option to view: view -r /tmp/L367-13TMP.c Obviously the file doesn't exist in /tmp anymore, but doing find / -name '*L367*' didn't produce any result. Where is it? I want to delete it. I don't want to view it, and I don't want to recover changes because I haven't actually lost anything. I just want this annoying message to go away and recover the filespace. Pigeon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: bash
.bash_profile works for me I seem to recall that there are some conf files that aren't read if it has the wrong permissions. Try chmod 644 .bash_profile first Just to be sure, put an echo 'something' near the top of .bash_profile Hth,josh -Original Message- From: Bruce Park [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 4:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: bash Dear debian users, My understanding with the original Bourne shell was that when it starts up, it will execute .profile in the users home directory. How does this work in bash? I have a .bash_profile but I know that it isn't executed since my PATH variable isn't updated everytime I log on. bp _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Boot from HD
Well, I know part of the problem. 12FA: is the MBR prompt, not LILO If you want to use the label="whatever" you must first get LILO started. That's done by trying to type anything during it's "delay" delay is set in /etc/lilo.conf and is measured in deciseconds (30 = 3 seconds) A lot of people suggest GRUB instead of LILO, but I haven't switched yet, either. -josh -Original Message-From: Miguel Ângelo Soares [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 11:44 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Boot from HD I have two hard drives : hda e hdb. The hda has windows and i have used FIPS to get 1 cylinder (+- 8MB) [/dev/hda3] to install LILO there. In hdb i have Debian 3.0 with kernel 2.4In the boot processof linux i get the following error : Quote: fsck.ext2: Attemp to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while trying to open /dev/hda3. Could this be a zero-lengh partition? I press CTRL-D and i can do the login.When i try to do mount -t ext2 /dev/ hda3 /boot i get the follwing message: Quote: attempt to access beyond end of device 03:03: rw=0, want=2, limit=1 EXT2-fs: unavle to read superblock My problem is i cannot access LILO. Another thing is when i press SHIFT to choose the OS i get the following :MBR 12FA: [then if i press 1 i get windows if i press 2 i get the LILO menu with the two options : 1 - linux 2- windows. The options work so is very odd why i cannot access that partition from the HD] Also odd is that i have pu a label="Linux" and another for windows but they don't work only the numbers 1 and 2.thanks for any help -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice.
/etc/fstab OR harddrive crash
Dear Debian folk, Important Question... If my hard drive crashed, and my machine boots from the hard drive, how far in the boot process would it get? If I just messed up /etc/fstab (1), how can I fix it? I've got some rescue disks, but NONE for any of my 2.4.x kernels. They were all too big to fit on a floppy. They are for 2.2.x After (IF?) this gets resolved, I'll have to learn to make a bootable CD rescue disk. :) By the way, the boot goes for a while, obviously some modules are being looked at, then I get a kernel panic, and the suggestion I pass root= to tell it where to look for the hard drive. This happens with any of my kernels on the machine, or any of my rescue disks. Thanks a ton, I'm really working hard to use Debian always. I love the multiple-arches, I love apt-get and dselect, but it ALWAYS seems like I am having one trouble or the other :) (1) trying to swtich from /cdrom to /cdrom0 and /cdrom1, maybe I accidentally edited the wrong line, also? -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
