xpdf -fullscreen (maybe not Debian specific)
Hi all, I may be imagining it, but I thought that at one stage `xpdf -fullsreen foo.pdf' would launch xpdf with no buttons or scrollbars etc. The current version in unstable (1.00-3.8) includes all these widgets: not exactly what I want for giving presentations. There don't seem to be any runtime options to change this behavior. Perhaps some build option was changed at some point? I can't find anything relevant in the Debian or upstream changelogs. Can anyone shed some light on this for me? TIA, Nick. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: xpdf -fullscreen (maybe not Debian specific)
Hi, # Hubert Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu, 06 Jul 2006 23:07:15 -0400 On Fri, 7 Jul 2006 09:50:38 +0900, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Hi all, I may be imagining it, but I thought that at one stage xpdf -fullsreen foo.pdf' would launch xpdf with no buttons or scrollbars etc. The current version in unstable (1.00-3.8) includes all these Hmm... That seems very old. The version I have installed is 3.01-8. Oops, my bad. Indeed the xpdf in sid is 3.01-8. I had also tried the version in stable: that's where the 1.00-3.8 came from. I just checked, and when I do xpdf -fullscreen, there are no buttons or scrollbars. Ok, this is another hint: maybe it's a configuration issue. Thanks, Nick. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Disabling access to SSH
* Mark Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] [041116 16:52]: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi All, I'm trying to restrict access to my ssh server from the outside to allow only two IP adresses and the internal lan ofcourse. And deny access to everyone else. People are trying the guess a username and password tactic a little too much to my liking... Do I use hosts.deny, hosts.allow for this? If so, which one takes precedence? Deny everything (except what you explicitly allow in hosts.allow) # hosts.deny ALL: ALL # hosts.allow ssh: xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx, yyy.yyy.yyy.yyy Alternatively to allow everyone on your local network (assuming the standard 192.168 setup), you could do something like # hosts.allow ssh: 192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0 Cheers, Nick. -- Debian 3.1 Linux twofish.gotdns.org 2.6.9-looxt93c2 i686 GNU/Linux signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Dual head: no xinerama
Hi, * Cameron Hutchison [EMAIL PROTECTED] [041110 17:11]: Once upon a time Nick Hastings said... I think you missed my point: I don't use xinerama nor do I want to. I'm using a dual head setup with a *single* matrox card. What I want is to somehow have my window manager or desktop environment to behave as described in chapter 9 of the xinermama howto. I dont think you're being very clear. You seem to be saying you want the features of xinerama, but not use xinerama. If you want to move windows between heads, then you want xinerama. I already do this: as I said I have a have an X display of 2560x1024 running over two monitors. I am _not_ using xinerama, I am using mtx driver from matrox. If you want the features listed in the xinerama faq, I want the points listed in Chapter 9 of the Xinerama HOWTO. then you want xinerama. The features I mention (as listed in chapter 9) are suggestions to window manger coders on what they should include to play nicely with xinerama systems. They are not features *of* xinerama. EG. don't pop up windows in the middle of a 2560x1024 display because there is a dirty gap of about 5 cm where the caused by the plastic around the outside of the LCDs. Why do you say you do not want xinerama? Because as I understand it xinerama, controls the X system of the two heads: I'm happy letting the mtx driver do that. I only want control over the window manager. For example imagine the situation where you used a single monitor, but you wanted your WM to never place anything at x = x_max/2. I see you emphasised the word *single* above. It make no difference whether you have a single dual-headed card or two separate video cards. You would be able to use xinerama with both setups. Perhaps that is causing you confusion. It may be. If you already have a working XF86Config-4 setup with two heads as separate screens (:0.0 and :0.1), you should simply be able to add Option Xinerama true to you ServerLayout section. I have a single screen section. I guess this is the point. It is then a matter of whether or not your applications recognise xinerama (if they need to). I am not familiar with the window manager you mentioned in your previous mail, so I dont know how well that supports xinerama. According to the documentation OpenBox should be xinerama friendly. Unfortunately, some applications are not xinerama aware and they do something like get the size of the root window, calculate the middle and explicitly place a window at that position. This ends up being on both monitors. I dont know if a xinerama-aware window manager can do anything about this. ssh-add(1) had this problem. I can live with ssh-askpass popping up in the middle, but for window resizing and placement (when controlled by the WM) it would be really nice if the WM new about the two physical displays. I dont know if it has been fixed, but it was enough for me not to use xinerama - particularly since I have no real need to move windows between screens. I think you just need to experiment a little and make sure the apps you want to run will work well with xinerama. I'll have another play, but I don't think it will work. For most, it wont matter. For others, they'll be xinerama-aware and behave according to the guidelines in the FAQ you referenced. Others will not. I run a dual-headed matrox card (G400), but I dont use xinerama. For the record mine is a P750, again with no xinerama. When I put `Option xinerama' in my ServerLayout section I see no difference: probably because as far as X is concerned I'm running a *single* (yes I used that word again ;-) ) 2560x1024 screen (one screen section only). I guess I'll try running with two screen sections and using xinerama. I guess it will work, but it just feels like an ugly way to control window management. Thanks for your help, Nick. -- Debian 3.1 Linux twofish 2.6.9-looxt93c2 i686 GNU/Linux signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Dual head: no xinerama
Hi, * Cameron Hutchison [EMAIL PROTECTED] [041110 19:15]: Once upon a time Nick Hastings said... Hi, * Cameron Hutchison [EMAIL PROTECTED] [041110 17:11]: Once upon a time Nick Hastings said... I think you missed my point: I don't use xinerama nor do I want to. I'm using a dual head setup with a *single* matrox card. What I want is to somehow have my window manager or desktop environment to behave as described in chapter 9 of the xinermama howto. I dont think you're being very clear. You seem to be saying you want the features of xinerama, but not use xinerama. If you want to move windows between heads, then you want xinerama. I already do this: as I said I have a have an X display of 2560x1024 running over two monitors. I am _not_ using xinerama, I am using mtx driver from matrox. Now I understand your setup. It was not clear you were using the mtx driver and that it had the capability within it to join the heads. I have two identical digital LCD displays. I think that having identical displays is the only way the mtx driver can handle dual head without using xinerama (but I'm happy to be corrected). I dont know much about how xinerama works, and just how an application becomes xinerama-aware, but unless mtx emulates xinerama from an API perspective, I dont see that current xinerama-aware applications would know that you had two screens and behave accordingly. Sure. snip Why do you say you do not want xinerama? Because as I understand it xinerama, controls the X system of the two heads: I'm happy letting the mtx driver do that. I only want control over the window manager. If you have no particular attachment to having the mtx driver joining the screens into a single screen, I would think that xinerama would be a better option, only because more software will be aware of xinerama that the mtx driver's method of joining screens. You are probably right. If you already have a working XF86Config-4 setup with two heads as separate screens (:0.0 and :0.1), you should simply be able to add Option Xinerama true to you ServerLayout section. I have a single screen section. I guess this is the point. I would try adding a second device section to drive the two heads independently, add a second monitor section referencing the new device and then reference them both from the serverlayout section. snip XF86config-4 sample Thanks, I actually tried pretty much this setup, based on the example config that came with the driver. Unfortunately, at best I could only get it to give me two identical screens. The funny thing was that the mouse pointer seemed to know about the two displays... really hard to explain: it would kind of wrap around the screens once before hitting the edge. I guess I'll try running with two screen sections and using xinerama. I guess it will work, but it just feels like an ugly way to control window management. I dont think there's any other way than running xinerama for xinerama-aware apps to work. Whether the heads are joined in the x server or the display driver makes little difference to me from a technically asthetic perspective, but from a practical perspective a working setup is better than a non-working one :-) (for various definitions of working). It seems that the only working option I have right now is without xinerama. I may give it another try later. Cheers, Nick. -- Debian 3.1 Linux twofish 2.6.9-looxt93c2 i686 GNU/Linux signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Dual head: no xinerama
Hi all, I'm running a matrox card with two identical monitors in dual head mode (merged in matrox jargon). I end up with a screen of 2560x1024 over the two displays. It works quite nicely. I understand that many window managers play well with a xinerama set up and do the things described in section 9. of the Xinerama HOWTO[1]. The main points are quoted here: from: Xinerama HOWTO - Chapter 9 * Intelligent placement of windows. - Window managers should not place windows in dead areas or across the borders of two heads. - New windows should be placed in the current desktop. * Maximizing windows should maximize the window to the current head only. * Window Movements should have edge resistance between heads (Much like they have resistance to other windows). * Dialogs and informative messages should not pop up Between Heads /from: Xinerama HOWTO - Chapter 9 I'd like to be able to get similar behaviour with my current setup. Does anyone know how I could achieve this sort of behavior. I currently use OpenBox 3 and gnome 2.6. Thanks, Nick. 1. http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Xinerama-HOWTO/windowmanagers.html -- Debian 3.1 Linux twofish 2.6.9-looxt93c2 i686 GNU/Linux signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Dual head: no xinerama
Hi, * Asho Yeh [EMAIL PROTECTED] [041110 16:01]: I have a Quadro NVS200 and Matrox G400 DH with Xinerama worke well. I think you missed my point: I don't use xinerama nor do I want to. I'm using a dual head setup with a *single* matrox card. What I want is to somehow have my window manager or desktop environment to behave as described in chapter 9 of the xinermama howto. Anyway, thanks for the reply: but next time please write to the list, not me. Cheers, Nick. -- Belle Group, KEK, 1-1 Oho, Tsukuba-shi, | Ph: +81 298 64 5200, ext 2429 Ibaraki-ken 305-0801, Japan | Fx: +81 298 64 5340 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: helix
Hi, * Jerome BENOIT [EMAIL PROTECTED] [041101 20:15]: David Dorward wrote: snip You are looking at Helix Player, not RealPlayer. RealPlayer is a non-free derivative of Helixplayer which has extra codecs. The referenced page links to RealPlayer and a FAQ about the differences between RealPlayer and Helix Player I get it ! So, is there somewhwere a ready to install RealPlayer (10.0.1) Debian package ? I have just goolged, and I got nothing. Is it possible to build such a Package form the HelixPlayer ? A couple of weeks ago I had success converting the rpm with alien. At the time, the resulting deb required two packages that were not in Sid but were in experimental. I think these packages were: libatk1.0-0 and libpango1.0-0 Cheers, Nick. -- Debian 3.1 Linux twofish 2.6.9-looxt93c1 i686 GNU/Linux signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: helix
* Jerome BENOIT [EMAIL PROTECTED] [041028 19:37]: Hello List, how can we test the Sid helixplayer ? Install and run it. sudo apt-get install helix-player Nick. -- Debian 3.1 Linux twofish 2.6.9-looxt93c1 i686 GNU/Linux signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: SSH
Hi, * cmdrwoody [EMAIL PROTECTED] [041022 10:36]: Greeting all! I am trying to write a script that ssh to all the computers in my school and perform automated tasks. For a machine say, p30, i can just put ssh p30 command in my script to execute that command. I have public-key authentication so no password is required. Now if this is the first time I login to that machine, I will get the question The authenticity of host 'p30 ' can't be established. RSA key fingerprint is . Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)? And I have to type yes or no. This is annoying since the script should be able to run automatically. How can I make the script to accept this automatically? Check the ssh_config man page. A very quick glance suggests that maybe putting StrictHostKeyChecking=no in your ~/.ssh/config might be what you want. I thick you could also use something like ssh -o StrictHostKeyChecking=no Cheers, Nick. -- Debian 3.1 Linux twofish 2.6.9-looxt93c1 i686 GNU/Linux signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: problems with new apt-proxy
Hi, * Art Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] [041021 09:18]: I have upgraded to the newest apt-proxy and things have become really sl. I spend a lot of time [Waiting for headers]. Is there some configuration that I'm missing? Sounds like you're experiencing a know bug (don't know the number off the top of my head). The workaround is to disable pipelining: in your /etc/apt-proxy/apt-proxy-v2.conf change disable_pipelining=0 to disable_pipelining=1 HTH, Nick. PS. This was the work round suggested on the Debian bug tracking page some time ago: Best you check it yourself. -- Debian 3.1 Linux twofish 2.6.9-looxt93c1 i686 GNU/Linux signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: procmail puzzle
* Matt Price [EMAIL PROTECTED] [041021 11:39]: I'm trying to filterm ail form the evolution lists into a sep. mailbox, but for some reason it's not working. I've looked over the recipes I wrote they seem exactly like the ones that DO work... Can anyone tell me what's wrong with the following recipes: I can try :-) # ximian... * ^TO_evolution $MAILDIR/.evolution/ :0: * ^TO_evolution $MAILDIR/.evolution/ and I think if $MAILDIR really is defined the following should be ok :0: * ^T0_evolution .evolution/ HTH, Nick. -- Debian 3.1 Linux twofish 2.6.9-looxt93c1 i686 GNU/Linux signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Debian and Win XP
Hi, * Shane Clement [EMAIL PROTECTED] [041021 13:35]: I have a Toshiba Satellite A30 with Win XP installed. How do I resize the ntfs file system since fips will not work on it and the only ntfsresize I can find is set to run under Linux. Given that I need to know how to make a bootable Linux cdrom with ntfsresize on it. Some bright apple decised that my computer did not require a floppy drive so I have a 40 gig HD and a ups connector. I am about ready to say to hell with the dual boot and give it all to Debian but I don't know how it would handle the large disk size. I guess you meant to ask a question here... but there isn't one, so I'll just mention that Linux will have no problem handling your large 40Gb disk. Ain't life grand? Yes. Bite the bullet, kill your XP and enjoy Debian. Cheers, Nick -- Debian 3.1 Linux twofish 2.6.9-looxt93c1 i686 GNU/Linux signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Missing ttys with udev
Hi dman, * Derrick Hudson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [041017 11:11]: On Fri, Oct 15, 2004 at 06:41:12PM +0900, Nick Hastings wrote: | | Hi all, | | I recently switched from devfs to udev. Everything is fine except that I | now have no virtual consoles, only X. | | The device /dev/tty exists as do /dev/vc/tty/*, but there are no | symbolic links like /dev/tty0 - vc/0. | | Does anyone know what's going on here? # cd /etc/udev/rules.d # rm udev.rules # ln -s ../devfs.rules ../compat-full.rules # /etc/init.d/udev restart Brilliant. I had compat.rules and devfs.rules. I replaced compat.rules with compat-full.rules and bingo ttys are back. The udev package provides a default set of rules. If you want your /dev to look like it did when you were using devfs with devfsd, then switch the rule set. Thanks again, Nick. -- Debian 3.1 Linux twofish 2.6.8-looxt93c4 i686 GNU/Linux signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Missing ttys with udev
Hi all, I recently switched from devfs to udev. Everything is fine except that I now have no virtual consoles, only X. The device /dev/tty exists as do /dev/vc/tty/*, but there are no symbolic links like /dev/tty0 - vc/0. Does anyone know what's going on here? I run a home made 2.6.8 kernel, I guess I must have left out a config option that I need. Problem is I don't know which one. I google and looked at my config, but can't work it out. Can anyone shed some light on this? Thanks, Nick. -- Debian 3.1 Linux twofish 2.6.8-looxt93c4 i686 GNU/Linux signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: x server configuration problems
Hi, * Sebastien Venot [EMAIL PROTECTED] [041015 18:34]: Hello everyone, i m new to Debian. I managed more or less to install debian successfully. My problem is that i cannot change the resolution of my screen.it keeps the size 800x600. i would like to use the resolution 1027x768. I configured many times the x server using the command: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 Make sure that you have `discover' installed (apt-get install discover) then try and reconfigure the server again with low priority. dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xfree86 i also tried to change the config file. My monitor is a Nokia 500Xa. In each configuration, i only enabled 1024x768 and removed all other modes. the resolution is still 800x600. What is the problem? Try the above, and if it doesn't help, report back to the list with details including: - the version of Debian you are installing - your video card Who has a perfect X server configuration for me?? Depends on the above. Cheers, Nick. -- Debian 3.1 Linux twofish 2.6.8-looxt93c4 i686 GNU/Linux signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Missing ttys with udev
Hi, * Ritesh Raj Sarraf [EMAIL PROTECTED] [041015 19:24]: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 15 October 2004 03:11 pm, Nick Hastings wrote: Hi all, I recently switched from devfs to udev. Everything is fine except that I now have no virtual consoles, only X. The device /dev/tty exists as do /dev/vc/tty/*, but there are no symbolic links like /dev/tty0 - vc/0. you'll have to create symlinks yourself. I doubt this, since I have two other machines running udev, with the exact same default configuration: but with ttys. Look in the /etc/udev directory. It's well documented. Does anyone know what's going on here? I run a home made 2.6.8 kernel, I guess I must have left out a config option that I need. Problem is I don't know which one. I google and looked at my config, but can't work it out. I don't think that to be the reason. I too had same problem and tackling a little bit with udev did the work Ok, I'll have a play. I guess you are referring to the tty lines in /etc/udev/compat.rules. Currently these lines are commented out. At first I thought this was the reason... but as I mentioned my other machines with udev appear to have the same configuration without the missing tty problems. Thanks for the input, Nick. -- Debian 3.1 Linux twofish 2.6.8-looxt93c4 i686 GNU/Linux signature.asc Description: Digital signature
kernel-patch-bootsplash for 2.6.8?
Hi all, following the most recent Debian weekly news, I decided to try to setup bootsplash. I added the appropriate source[1] to my apt sources but, it seems the kernel-patch-bootsplash package is a bit out of date since it doesn't appear[2] to supply patches for 2.6.8 kernels. I tried googling but found nothing applicable. Anyone know anything about this? TIA, Nick. [1] http://www.bootsplash.de/files/debian/ [2] See: /usr/src/kernel-patches/all/apply/bootsplash from kernel-patch-bootsplash -- Debian 3.1 Linux twofish 2.6.8-looxt93c4 i686 GNU/Linux signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Recomended dual head video card
Hi, * Bill Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [041008 06:44]: On Tue, 5 Oct 2004, Dana J. Laude wrote: I have a matrox G450 that I picked off eBay for $35 and it works quite well and the price was right. It's a older card though, so for gaming I wouldn't really recommend it... although the card works ok, 3D stuff is a tad on the slow side. For normal stuff it works great though, and 2 monitors are very cool.. which I was running under debian unstable with windowmaker. I run a G450 dual head, be warned there is a problem with gamma correction on the second head. From what I gather it is a hardware limitation. So this problem is exclusive to the G450? If so I think I will get a P750. It has dual DVI and the option of running a third output for video or RGB. Thanks for the input everyone. Cheers, Nick. -- Debian 3.1 Linux twofish 2.6.8-looxt93c4 i686 GNU/Linux signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Recomended dual head video card
Hi all, for reasons I won't bother going into I'm about turn a server machine into a workstation (and perhaps occasional game machine). There are two nice 1280x1024 17 inch digital LCD displays available (Mitsubishi RTD179S) [1], so I thought I'd go out and get myself a nice dual head video card. But which to choose? My budget is fairly generous. My machines motherboard has and AGP slot so I thought an AGP card would be best. I've had a bit of a look at the ATI web site and it seems that the FireGL Z1-128 [2] might suit me well. I briefly looked into nvidia cards, but seem to remember there may be some issues with drivers for 2.6 kernels. I saw the nvidia vs ati thread a few days ago, but there seemed to be little in the way of conclusions or specific reports of experiences with cards. Anyone have anything to add? Any insights would be much appreciated. This is the first time that I've ever had to choose a video card. Please note that I'm not scared of compiling kernels or running bleeding edge software: I've been using 2.6 since the pre days and Debian unstable for about 4 years. TIA, Nick. [1] http://www.nmv.co.jp/mitsubishi/product/rdt179s/index.htm [2] http://www.ati.com/products/workstation/fireglmatrix.html#agp -- Debian 3.1 Linux twofish 2.6.8-looxt93c4 i686 GNU/Linux signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: script to list installed packages
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [040129 15:24]: Jamin W. Collins wrote: On Thu, Jan 29, 2004 at 12:27:11AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know that somewhere there is a command to list all installed packages Perhaps dpkg --get-selections would be a good starting point? I'd recommend that too. Doh! I completely forgot about dpkg, I'm so used to apt. This seems great for the purposes of the script. Running that returns 480 package names, same as how many synaptic says are installed. I'm going to write a script up, test and rework it, then post it here for feedback. Any other ideas are welcome in the meantime. Careful, dpkg --get-selections doesn't always list only installed packages Try: dpkg --get-selections | grep -w install | cut -f1 Cheers, Nick. -- Debian testing/unstable Linux twofish 2.6.1-looxt93c1 i686 GNU/Linux signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: script to list installed packages
* Dave Carrigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] [040130 00:46]:
On Thu, Jan 29, 2004 at 07:58:36PM +0900, Nick Hastings wrote:
Careful, dpkg --get-selections doesn't always list only installed
packages
Try:
dpkg --get-selections | grep -w install | cut -f1
To be pedantic, this will fail if a package has the string install in
its name and is in a non-installed state.
No I don't think so, note the -w flag. It will only match if the
package name _is_ install.
Also, this will miss held packages.
My apologies you are correct here.
Better would be
dpkg --get-selections | awk '$2 ~ install|hold {print $1}'
Oops, now you will match with uninstall... or perhaps this status
doesn't exist anymore? Anyone know all possible statuses that can be
reported by dpkg --get-selections?
Nick.
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Re: Lilo menu?
* Tim Bates [EMAIL PROTECTED] [040127 15:40]: Hi people. What's the go with LILO supplied with Debian 3.0? I cant get it to boot anything other than what it comes with. What's the trick? Where am I going wrong? The trick is in man lilo.conf. Not sure off the top of my head but maybe you are looking for the install=/boot/boot-menu.b, or prompt options. snip Cheers, Nick. -- Debian testing/unstable Linux twofish 2.6.1-looxt93c1 i686 GNU/Linux signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: kernel-2.6.0 linux-wlan-ng Problem
Hi Thomas, * Thomas H. George [EMAIL PROTECTED] [040127 09:43]: I downloaded and compiled kernel-source-2.6.0 but cannot connect to my wireless LAN via the Netgear MA311 PCI Adapter. Last February I downloaded linux-wlan-ng-0.1.16-pre10.tar.gz which I am using with a compiled kernel-2.4.22. Make all with the kernel-2.6.0 fails. I don't know the specifics of your wireless card, but have you tried simply using the drivers that actually come with linux 2.6.0? A quick google seems to suggest it should work[1]. Anyone have success setting this up? The orinoco_pci driver works for my wireless card 00:12.0 Network controller: Harris Semiconductor Prism 2.5 Wavelan chipset (rev 01) Cheers, Nick. 1. See for example http://members.iinet.net.au/~mtriggs/wireless.html -- Debian testing/unstable Linux twofish 2.6.1-looxt93c1 i686 GNU/Linux signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: 8139too Module
Hi Timothy, * Timothy Paling [EMAIL PROTECTED] [040128 09:39]: I am somewhat of a newbie to Debian and have managed to sucessfully install 3.0r2 on my Compaq 2104EA laptop. Congratulations. I am, however, having some issues with getting my Belkin F5D5010 Ethernet CardBus card working. The Cardbus itself is working (I have verified this by looking at /var/log/syslog when inserting the card). I am aware that I need to install the 8139too module, however, I'm completely unsure on how to do this. Two ways kernel modules can be installed (or inserted into the running kernel) using the (1) modprobe or (2)modconf commands. (1) % modprobe 8139too You can make sure that the 8139too module is installed each time you boot by adding the the string 8139too to the file /etc/modules. Just open up /etc/modules in your favourite editor, or type the following on the command line % echo 8139too /etc/modules (2) % modconf and then navigate through the menus to find 8139too (should be in kernel/drivers/net). If you use this method to install a module, modconf will automatically append it to /etc/modules, to ensure it is loaded each time you boot. Anyhelp or advice would be much appreciated. Cheers, Nick. -- Debian testing/unstable Linux twofish 2.6.1-looxt93c1 i686 GNU/Linux signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: 2 questions from debian noob
Hi, * Timmy P. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [040128 10:15]: hello, i was wondering if yall could tell me why the network install for debian does not support Internal PCI cards. It does. Why do you think otherwise? What card do you need it to support? I do not have a laptop, and can not spare 7 cds to install the os that i have heard so much good about. You don't need them anyway. You should be able to get your NIC working with the net install cd. I do plan on buying the cd set...but i wanted to make sure it worked with my hardware, and i liked it myself, before i buy it. Ahh, don't bother buying them. Once you have your NIC working you can just download and install the packages you want painlessly using apt-get. My other question, does debian work with AMD processors? I believe they are intell compatible, but i can't find them mentioned on the debian site...so i figured i would ask the list. Yes, see http://www.debian.org/ports/ The AMD processors are basically same as the Intel. Just use the i386 binaries. Cheers, Nick. -- Debian testing/unstable Linux twofish 2.6.1-looxt93c1 i686 GNU/Linux signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: 8139too Module
* Timothy Paling [EMAIL PROTECTED] [040128 11:29]: On Tue, 2004-01-27 at 19:36, Timothy Paling wrote: Producing this listing shows that 8139too is not in the list. modprobe simple reports that it cannot find the module. How do I proceed further? Reread his email. Specifically about what kernel you are using. Is it 2.4.18-bf2.4? What is the output of the following command grep 8139TOO /boot/config-`uname -r` Also _please_ don't top-post: You should quote relevant parts of the email which you are referring to, and write you response _below_ said relevant part. Nick. -- Debian testing/unstable Linux twofish 2.6.1-looxt93c1 i686 GNU/Linux signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: xfree86 4.3 installing on unstable
Hi, * Lukas Ruf [EMAIL PROTECTED] [031219 16:46]: Dear all, is there any way to install xfree 4.3 on my Debian unstable box without switching to experimental? I think you may have a misunderstanding about the experimental archive. The experimental archive is _not_ a fully self contained distribution. So you can't switch to it. You can however use packages from unstable. I would recommend adding experimental to your sources.list, then apt-get update apt-get install xserver-xfree86 Then just comment out the experimental line in sources.list, and Bob's your uncle and Fanny's your Aunt. The above method works for me. Other options include compiling it yourself or perhaps looking for packages at http://www.apt-get.org. Cheers, Nick. -- Debian testing/unstable Linux twofish 2.6.0-looxt93c1 i686 GNU/Linux signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: enable mouse in tty
Hi, * saravanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] [031216 16:45]: hai, i) how to enable mouse in tty? apt-get install gpm ii) List me the debian package sites? (not OS, other utilities)(sites like rpmfind.net) http://www.apt-get.org/ You're welcome :-\ Nick. -- Debian testing/unstable Linux twofish 2.6.0-test11-looxt93c1 i686 GNU/Linux signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Knoppix saving data
Hi, * Gruessle [EMAIL PROTECTED] [031216 17:29]: I am trying to use the XFree86 config data from knoppix for Debian. Hmm. The only place I could find where I can save data while in knoppix was the desktop. After exiting knoppix and going back to Debian I can't find the desktop. I figure knoppix deleted that folder. Do you have any solutions I could use besides typing that whole thing in by hand? You could mount a disk (floppy or hard) and then save (cp) it there. But I'm worried that would require you learning how. Another option is to get it from the list archive, since it seems I already posted it to the list. wget http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2003/debian-user-200312/msg05420.html I have not been following your thread carefully, but I suspect that you are not going about this the best way. You may do better to simply read the Debian installation manual _very_ carefully and then follow it very carefully. If/when you come against a problem you can't resolve send a very specific message to the list which contains the following: 1. Brief description of the exact problem. 2. Explicit description of what you have tried. 3. Exact (relevant) error messages etc. Cheers, Nick. -- Debian testing/unstable Linux twofish 2.6.0-test11-looxt93c1 i686 GNU/Linux signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: radeon and X: was X won't start: Resolved
Hi, * David Meiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] [031206 17:33]: Mark, I laugh that you say it sounds geek. If anything, I am contra-geek, a masters student in Theology with barely any technical know-how other than how to slap a computer together. Oops, I think he meant to say Greek rather than geek or greek as it is written below. Cheers, Nick. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 21:19:37 -0600, David Meiser wrote: Personally, Give up isn't in my vocab. Here's what you do (and what worked for me on my Radeon 8500): 1) download/compile/install a 2.6.0 series kernel, modularizing the Direct Rendering stuff for Radeon, and AGPGART, and whatever your motherboard and processor specific setup is Since most of this is greek I think my plan of wating for a package is best. -- Debian testing/unstable Linux twofish 2.6.0-test11-looxt93c1 i686 GNU/Linux signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Sound problems
Hi, * [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [031204 18:03]: Greetings: I kinda wondering what happen with my sound, the thing is that whenever I'm logged in as root the soun server work with out problem, but if I log off and login as a regular user the sound desapear, and I end up with no sound. Sounds like you need to add yourself to the audio group. man vigr, or use one off the command line tools that I'm sure others on the list will mention. Besides, did debian use the same policy as redhat did regarding mp3 files, cuz every time I try to listen to an mp3 files it hang xmms. What policy would that be? My guess is that you need to configure or install one of the xmms plugins. Can you play mp3 files with other programs. eg mpg321? Cheers, Nick. -- Debian testing/unstable Linux twofish 2.6.0-test11-looxt93c1 i686 GNU/Linux signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: kernel 2.6
* David Palmer. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [031127 13:29]: On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 15:24:02 -0500 Paul Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom Allison wrote: Is there a test package of kernel-image-2.6 ?? I thought I read once there was, but the search engine is down right now on the debian site. apt-cache search kernel-image|grep 2.6 kernel-image-2.6.0-test9-1-386 - Linux kernel image for version 2.6.0-test9 on 386. kernel-source-2.6.0-test9 - Linux kernel source for version 2.6.0-test9 with Debian patches Test 10 is out now. So is test11! (See sig.) Cheers, Nick. -- Debian testing/unstable Linux twofish 2.6.0-test11-looxt93c1 i686 GNU/Linux signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Asus A7N8X Deluxe and Debian?
* Scarletdown [EMAIL PROTECTED] [031120 15:26]: On 19 Nov 2003 at 10:37, Scarletdown wrote: On 19 Nov 2003 at 9:48, Roberto Sanchez wrote: Not only that, this is what it says in the release notes: At the current time, the nForce drivers require a 2.4 series kernel. Frm the screen shot, it looks like a 2.2.20 kernel. Well, I downloaded everything from here: http://debian.oregonstate.edu/debian-cdimage/images/current/i386/ I have performed a fresh clean reinstall, and am now set up with 2.4.18 Yet despite the updated kernel, I'm still getting errors when I try to install the nVidia drivers. Here are the error messages this time: In file included from:#160; nvnet.h:20, nvnet.c:21: /usr/include/linux/module.h:21: linux/modversions.h: No such file or directory. Looks like you need to install the kernel-headers package that goes which your kernel-image package (assuming you are using a prepackaged Debian kernel). # apt-get install kernel-headers-`uname -r` then make a symlink to /usr/src/linux # ln -s /usr/src/kernel-headers-`uname -r` /usr/src/linux HTH, although YMMV, Nick. -- Debian testing/unstable Linux twofish 2.6.0-test9-looxt93c2 i686 GNU/Linux signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: missing package for kdebase?
Hi, * Robert L. Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] [031119 09:55]: Due to a hard disk failure I am stuck rebuilding my wife's machine. So far it's going great and the box is up and 90% there. All that's left is installing kdebase + some support packages. When I try to install kdebase I get some errors saying it needs ksysguard, ksysguardd and libsensors-1debian1. There doesn't appear to be a libsensors-1debian1 anywhere I can find. Is there a way to force the download of everything excep the ksysgu* stuff? Don't instal the kdebase package. Just install all the stuff that kdebase depends on that are installable. eg. apt-get install kappfinder kate kcontrol kdebase-bin ... etc. I don't have the space anywhere to mirror the debian trees so I can't just run a find on local disk and do a dpkg -i --force-depends. You shouldn't force anything anyway. Debian not RedHat ;-) Cheers, Nick. -- Debian testing/unstable Linux twofish 2.6.0-test9-looxt93c2 i686 GNU/Linux signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: (newbie) Still no network...
Hi Kevin, please wrap you lines at 72 characters. * Kevin Krumwiede [EMAIL PROTECTED] [031114 13:50]: I've installed 3.0r1 a few times now on my laptop, and I'm still running into problems. I used apt-get to install a newer kernel-image and matching kernel-pcmcia-modules. It boots, but pcmcia won't load and I have no network. What is the error message when you try to load the pcmia modules (modprobe)? Or what happens when you try to load them with modconf? BTW, you probably should tell us what kernel you are using and the output of lspci | grep CardBus Sorry if you posted this info earlier. Assuming I start with a fresh install, what commands should I run to upgrade the kernel without screwing everything up? Add whatever sources you want to your /etc/apt/sources.list, then: apt-get update apt-get install kernel-image-version apt-get install kernel-pcmcia-modules-version (My reason for wanting to upgrade the kernel is the hideous framebuffer console that can't be turned off in the stock kernel...) BTW, is there a program analogous to RedHat's chkconfig? Dunno, don't use RedHat. What does chkconfig do? Cheers, Nick. -- Debian testing/unstable Linux twofish 2.6.0-test9-looxt93c1 i686 GNU/Linux signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: proxy configuration
Hi, * Haiko Etzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] [031112 11:12]: Hello, my server is behind a proxy-server with authentification. I installed debian through http, where I inserted the proxy informations. For package installation with apt-get have a look in /etc/apt/apt.conf But now I need to change this informations! Where can I find the config files? Or is there a config-programm? I don't know if there is a general Debian way to do this. Other programs it look in different places for the proxy. Try setting your http_proxy environment variable. HTH, Nick. -- Debian testing/unstable Linux twofish 2.6.0-test9-looxt93c1 i686 GNU/Linux signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 question
Hi, * Jimmy Johansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [031113 08:16]: Hi, I tried to do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 yesterday expecting it to create a new XF86Config-4 file, but it didn't. I moved the old XF86Config-4 to my /home/username directory and ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86. Am I supposed to do something else? I remember seeing this behaviour once with xfree86 4.2 in sid. I think it bails out from updating the XF86Config-4 if it has been modified by hand. I ended up removing and reinstalling it to make the new settings stick. apt-get remove --purge xserver-xfree86 apt-get install xserver-xfree86 Be warned, none of your previous settings will be remembered. HTH, Nick. -- Debian testing/unstable Linux twofish 2.6.0-test9-looxt93c1 i686 GNU/Linux signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: kernel-source-2.6.0-test9 linux-wlan-ng Problem
Hi Thomas, * Thomas H. George [EMAIL PROTECTED] [031113 08:18]: I compiled a new kernel from kernel-source-2.6.0-test9 and, after installing module-init-tools, most of my modules are loaded and working except for my pci wireless networking card. This has always been something of a problem even with the 2.4.xx kernels. apt-get install linux-wlan-ng reports the latest version is already installed but newly compiled kernels cannot install the Netgear MA311 PCI Adapter. I have a copy of linux-wlan-ng-0.1.16-pre16 which successfully installs the adapter in for the 2.4.xx kernels but it aborts the make all command now that I have compiled the 2.6.0-test9 kernel. I used linux-wlan-ng drivers with the 2.4 kernels. Since switching to 2.6 I've found that the orinoco drivers that come with the standard kernel work just fine. Perhaps you should consider switching. Cheers, Nick. -- Debian testing/unstable Linux twofish 2.6.0-test9-looxt93c1 i686 GNU/Linux signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: window manager recomendation
Hi, * Burkhard Woelfel [EMAIL PROTECTED] [031113 13:14]: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 13 November 2003 03:18, Jamin W. Collins wrote: On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 03:51:10AM +0200, Micha Feigin wrote: Hoping this won't turn into a flame war, I am looking for recommendations for a window manager. Blackbox, Openbox, or Fluxbox will do all of the above, I use Blackbox. All the *box WMs are fairly similar. If you are new to them, I suggest Fluxbox, as it handles keystroke shortcuts by itself. As far as I know, at least Blackbox uses a keyboard handler application for that, which you would need to set up. There are themes available for all of them. Openbox3 handles keybinding by itself. It is highly customisable and has great pack and grow window move and resize features. It is also possible to do basically everything with the keyboard. It is not in Debian yet, but .debs can be found at http://www.hetzi.at/thomas/debian. This WM was mentioned by a poster on this list a month or so ago. At the time I was using sawfish, but was getting sick of the bloat and considering switching back to fvwm. I'm _so_ glad I tried openbox3. I have it set up to do all the things you wanted except use the Debian menus. I've not tried. Anyway, HTH, Nick. -- Debian testing/unstable Linux twofish 2.6.0-test9-looxt93c1 i686 GNU/Linux signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Another dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 question
* Mike Fedyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] [031113 14:20]: snip With xserver-xfree86 it suggests a few hardware detection packages, that should detect the hardware I have. (I tested discover, and read-edid manually, and they did discover the hardware I have). So how do I get xserver-xfree86 to use them? Version: 4.2.1-13 Suggests: discover, mdetect, read-edid, libglide2 ( 2001.01.26) dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xfree86 If that doesn't work, try purging and reinstalling xserver-xfree86. Cheers, Nick. -- Debian testing/unstable Linux twofish 2.6.0-test9-looxt93c1 i686 GNU/Linux signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Going to give it another shot-need more help
Hi Mark, * Mark Healey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [031107 18:32]: On Thu, 06 Nov 2003 21:34:57 -0600, Kent West wrote: snip lotsa stuff I would suggest (modestly?) that you read Kent's 10-Step Procedure to Compiling a Debian Kernel, which is the bottom section of README.gz in /usr/share/doc/kernel-package (you'll need to apt-get install kernel-package to ge this document). I hope that was a cruel joke. Or maybe Kent forgot you have no working nic... However, this translates to beg, borrow, buy or steal a kernel-package .deb file the same way that you managed to get the kernel source onto your machine. You can then install it with dpkg -i. It also seems to be online here: Appearantly it was. Regardless, you should install this package and use it to help you build a kernel that supports your nic. http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2002/debian-user-200205/msg02951.html. It may not answer your questions, but it covers the things that I saw as issues. I'll give it a shot in the morning. ... gotta love timezones. This is more out of curiosity than anything else but is there a way to check what features are incorperated into a running kernel. You can look at the config file. Any Debian packaged kernel will have a copy of its config file installed at /boot/config-`uname -r` where `uname -r` is what is the output of the same command when running the given kernel. eg for me: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ 2% uname -r 2.6.0-test9-looxt93c1 So my kernels config file is /boot/config-2.6.0-test9-looxt93c1 I guess for you it will be something like /boot/config-2.4.18-bf2.4 or /boot/config-2.2.25-idepci Sorry I'm sure you said what kernel you you were running in an earlier email, but I don't remember now. Best of luck, Nick. -- Debian testing/unstable Linux twofish 2.6.0-test9-looxt93c1 i686 GNU/Linux signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: install local deb file
Hi, * Haines Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] [031104 10:29]: snip quoted text of Colin A question about how to handle dependencies when using dpkg -i. What I'm trying to do is install libdvdcss2, which depends on my upgrading libc6, and that, in turn depends on libdb1-compat. If I run dpkg -i on just the libdvdcss2_1.2.5-0.2_i386.deb, I assume it will not know to look in the same folder for any files that might satisfy dependencies. Correct. If you must use dkg -i to install something you must make sure that you have installed the required decencies. Option 1. If you .deb files of the dependencies you can install them all at the same time: eg. # dpkg -i libdvdcss2_1.2.5-0.2_i386.deb libc6_xxx.deb libdb1-compat_yyy.deb Option 2. Install the dependencies first using apt-get: eg. # apt-get install libc6 libdb1-compat # dpkg -i libdvdcss2_1.2.5-0.2_i386.deb HTH, Nick. -- Debian testing/unstable Linux twofish 2.6.0-test9-looxt93c1 i686 GNU/Linux signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: install local deb file
Evening, * Haines Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] [031103 12:06]: Osamu sama wrote: On Sun, Nov 02, 2003 at 03:15:06PM -0500, Haines Brown wrote: I've spent some time pouring over apt-HOWTO, and just don't understand. I want to use aptitude to install a local .deb file. I place it in my /storage/debs. In the HOWTO, it said to do this: deb file:/storage debs\ ^ What is this back slash? But when I run aptitude update, it says the line is malformed. How does one use aptitude to install a local deb file? The backslash was a typo (only in my message, not in sources.list). I was just copying the model in apt-HOWTO (I thought). The problem seems to be that aptitude update will take the storage directory above and append it to /var/lib/apt/lists/, but I'm not sure. I'm sure there's a very simple answer to my question. I followed the HOWTO and only managed to create a Packages.gz file, but no idea what to do with it. Put it in /storage/debs/. Just to clarify, I would do something like: echo deb file:/storage/ debs/ /etc/apt/sources.list dpkg-scanpackages /storages/debs /dev/null | gzip /storage/debs/Packages.gz apt-get update apt-get install whatever HTH. Nick. -- Debian testing/unstable Linux twofish 2.6.0-test9-looxt93c1 i686 GNU/Linux signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: xterm title and xconsole
Hi Lukas, * Lukas Ruf [EMAIL PROTECTED] [031029 18:18]: Dear all, I would like to run an xterm window without title-bar on the top of the window. I fiddled around for quite a while but have not managed to arrive at a point that makes sense. I run ii fvwm 2.4.16-2 F(?) Virtual Window Manager, version 2.4 ii xterm 4.2.1-12.1 X terminal emulator It's a long time since I've run fvwm, but a quick peak at an old config file indicates that the following might work: Style xterm NoHandles snip Sorry don't know about your console problems. Cheers, Nick. -- Debian testing/unstable Linux twofish 2.6.0-test9-looxt93c1 i686 GNU/Linux signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: remote update - how to re-enforce
* Lukas Ruf [EMAIL PROTECTED] [031028 17:12]: Nick Hastings [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-10-28 03:11]: When I logged in again on the remote boxes I simply restarted the update process, but then I realized that dselect considers the update being completed totally and proposes to delete the previously downloaded packages even though the update process was interrupted before. Is there any way how I can restart the update process such that all packages are truely installed? Sorry I don't use dselect so I don't know how to get it to do this. However I believe that I you use apt-get to do your upgrades then this problem will be avoided automatically. unfortunately, not really. dselect, AFAIK, is just a front-end to apt-get No it's not. -- even though I realized additional functionality there (at least, that's my impression). apt-get will not delete packages unless you specifically tell it to. eg apt-get clean Here is an example apt-get update apt-get upgrade *crash*, *burn*, Ctrl-C etc. dpkg --configure --pending apt-get upgrade Try it yourself. Nick. -- Debian testing/unstable Linux twofish 2.6.0-test9-looxt93c1 i686 GNU/Linux signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Debian ISO Images
Hi, * [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [031027 15:28]: To Whom It may Concerned: I have downloaded the ISO images of Woody and there are seven from it. It is categorized as BOOT(Non-US)GENERIC, BOOT(US)GENERIC, VANILLA, COMPACT, IDEPCI and BF2.4 BOOT. When to use these different ISO's. Most of the time you can just use the first CD. However, in general it depends on what hardware you are using. This is detailed in the installation manual: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch-install-methods.en.html#s-kernel-choice you should be able to find the answers to most of your questions in the Debian installation manual. Just follow the links from http://www.debian.org. Cheers, Nick. -- Debian testing/unstable Linux twofish 2.6.0-test9-looxt93c1 i686 GNU/Linux signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: USB subsystem problems?! or only mouse?
Hi, * Lorenzo Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] [031027 15:57]: I'm sorry Nicos...for the reply..I did not see the to: Thanks for your suggestions Nicos, I have mounted, as you explain, the usbfs, and now I can see devices with command lsusb, and also following the path /proc/bus/usb/. I have only 2 usb devices, one is an hub and the other is a usb mouse. The usb mouse, as I said, does not work, but I was not so precise concerning the does not work... Under the path /dev/input/, I have the following devices: event0 event2 js0 js2 micemouse1 mouse3 event1 event3 js1 js3 mouse0 mouse2 I think I have set up my mouse correctly for X. Checking the X log files, all seem ok! Do you have a line like the following in your XF86config-4 file? Option Device/dev/input/mice But the mouse does not move the pointer! What happens if you cat /dev/input/mice and then move the mouse? Does a bunch of stuff spew onto your terminal? Nick. -- Debian testing/unstable Linux twofish 2.6.0-test9-looxt93c1 i686 GNU/Linux signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: USB subsystem problems?! or only mouse?
Hi, * Lorenzo Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] [031028 09:47]: Nicos, I tried also this...to display octal caracters... but without results..:( No caracters are show on terminal... Ok, so /dev/input/mice is not working. I have the following entries in my XF86config-4 file: Since the device seems to be not working, forget about your XF86config-4 for now. Do any of /dev/input/mouse0, mouse1 etc spew anything to the console when you cat them and move the mouse? Are you sure that the mouse is not broken (sorry perhaps you already confirmed this)? I'm almost out ideas. What is the output of: grep MOUSE /boot/config-`uname -r` and what modules do you have loaded (lsmod)? Nick. -- Debian testing/unstable Linux twofish 2.6.0-test9-looxt93c1 i686 GNU/Linux signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: remote update - how to re-enforce
Hi, * Lukas Ruf [EMAIL PROTECTED] [031028 09:43]: Dear all, Debian is great for remote system administration. Thus, I make use of it for several head-less servers that are only adminstratable by remote-login via network interface. Usually, I do an upgrade/update at the same time for all boxes, including my Laptop. Today, while all other servers were upgrading, the latest update of pcmcia-cs shut down the interface. When I logged in again on the remote boxes I simply restarted the update process, but then I realized that dselect considers the update being completed totally and proposes to delete the previously downloaded packages even though the update process was interrupted before. Is there any way how I can restart the update process such that all packages are truely installed? Sorry I don't use dselect so I don't know how to get it to do this. However I believe that I you use apt-get to do your upgrades then this problem will be avoided automatically. Cheers, Nick. -- Debian testing/unstable Linux twofish 2.6.0-test9-looxt93c1 i686 GNU/Linux signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: want to install testing distribution on Intel system using network install CD
Hi James, * James Oldham [EMAIL PROTECTED] [031028 09:46]: I am new to Debian and a relative novice with Linux. I want to install the testing distribution on an IBM Pentium II (model 6285-66U, 384 ram, plenty of disk space, 4MB S3 on the motherboard). Welcome. Tip number 1- wrap your lines at about 72 characters. How I use my current network install CD (which defaults to stable) to install the testing distribution? I've tried editing the sources list, changing stable to testing on each line, but my success has been only partial. I think you need to be more specific. What did you do after editing you /etc/apt/sources.list? I guess you need to do the following. # apt-get update # apt-get upgrade # apt-get dist-upgrade The main purpose for this machine will be a file server (including Samba) inside my firewall, but I would like to be able to use the computer as a workstation occasionally. I've successfully installed the stable distribution over the internet, but I haven't figured out how to get the X server working. I understand that the testing distribution includes newer versions of XFree86 that support the S3 chipset I have. When I run startx on my stable install, the error message says that the file doesn't exist, but I have been able to run through the configuration program and view output file. Run tasksel and select X window system. HTH, Nick. -- Debian testing/unstable Linux twofish 2.6.0-test9-looxt93c1 i686 GNU/Linux signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Using apt-get/dselect to download from a un-official repository.
Hi again, * Joseph Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] [031023 03:57]: Nick Hastings wrote: * Joseph Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] [031022 10:31]: I'd like to download xfree86 4.3.0 from this repository: http://people.debian.org/~mmagallo/packages/xfree86/ I found it whilst Googling round for 4.3.0 for Debian, it was mentioned in a mailing list archive. Could anyone tell me how I would go about installing from this repository (so I can play UT2003 and Quake3 fullscreen (long story, stupid graphics card)). Looks like you need to add deb http://people.debian.org/~mmagallo/packages/xfree86/ i386/ to you /etc/apt/sources.list then do: # apt-get update snip Okay, so, I tried that and dselect's showing the information for the packages in the repository (thankyou! :) ). Unfortunately, the guy who put it together hasn't tested the repository and has written the Packages.gz badly. The addresses for all the files start with ./ , which apt-get can't interpret in an address (from the looks of the errors) and rightly so. I've confirmed this by looking at the file in Mozilla. Is there any way of fixing this? snip This is just a stab in the dark, but what about: deb http://people.debian.org/~mmagallo/packages/xfree86/i386/ ./ Cheers, Nick. -- Debian testing/unstable Linux twofish 2.6.0-test8-looxt93c i686 GNU/Linux signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Using apt-get/dselect to download from a un-official repository.
Hi, * Joseph Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] [031022 10:31]: I'd like to download xfree86 4.3.0 from this repository: http://people.debian.org/~mmagallo/packages/xfree86/ I found it whilst Googling round for 4.3.0 for Debian, it was mentioned in a mailing list archive. Could anyone tell me how I would go about installing from this repository (so I can play UT2003 and Quake3 fullscreen (long story, stupid graphics card)). Looks like you need to add deb http://people.debian.org/~mmagallo/packages/xfree86/ i386/ to you /etc/apt/sources.list then do: # apt-get update You can fin out more my reading the sources.list man page or the apt-get howto: # apt-get install apt-howto-en then look at /usr/share/doc/Debian/apt-howto/apt-howto.en.html Cheers, Nick. -- Debian testing/unstable Linux twofish 2.6.0-test8-looxt93c i686 GNU/Linux signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: tetex on unstable: dvips (5.92b) -Ppdf problem
Hi Mark, * Mark M [EMAIL PROTECTED] [031014 10:50]: Hi, I am using unstable with dvips 5.92b. When I try: dvips -Ppdf process.dvi -o process.ps I might be missing something but doesn't the -P flag specify a printer and -o specifies an output file? Surely you only want one or the other. eg. dvips -Ppdf process.dvi or dvips process.dvi -o process.ps I get the error message shown below for a number of fonts. ps2pdf then gives bad screen output. Does anyone know what the problem is? If you want to make pdf files you can make them from either latex or tex documents with pdflatex or pdftex. HTH, Nick. -- Debian testing/unstable Linux twofish 2.6.0-test7-looxt93c2 i686 GNU/Linux signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: How do I prevent User 'A' from seeing User 'B' /home contents
Hi, * Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [031014 10:42]: On Sun, Oct 12, 2003 at 05:23:44PM +0900, Nick Hastings wrote: * Ryan Nowakowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [031012 16:56]: On Fri, Oct 10, 2003 at 10:53:46AM -0500, Wathen, Metherion wrote: Hi all, I need to know how to change permissions of each user so that they only see their own home directory. As I write this i'm thinking that I have to change the groups they are in, is that correct? chmod 700 /home/* Do _not_ do this. You don't want everything to be executable. You just want to remove read permission for everyone except the owner. To do that: chmod -R go-r /home The advice in the post you're replying to is much less invasive: note that it doesn't have the -R flag, so it only affects the directories in /home itself. These should all be executable anyway. My mind had automatically inserted a -R when reading chmod 700 /home/*. My bad. I was wrong. Cheers, Nick. -- Debian testing/unstable Linux twofish 2.6.0-test7-looxt93c2 i686 GNU/Linux signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: How do I prevent User 'A' from seeing User 'B' /home contents
fix toppost * Ryan Nowakowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [031012 16:56]: On Fri, Oct 10, 2003 at 10:53:46AM -0500, Wathen, Metherion wrote: Hi all, I need to know how to change permissions of each user so that they only see their own home directory. As I write this i'm thinking that I have to change the groups they are in, is that correct? chmod 700 /home/* /fix toppost Do _not_ do this. You don't want everything to be executable. You just want to remove read permission for everyone except the owner. To do that: chmod -R go-r /home Nick. -- Debian testing/unstable Linux twofish 2.6.0-test7-looxt93c2 i686 GNU/Linux signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Unidentified subject!
Hm, is this another one of those weird spams, like the ones that were coming from aol? Anyway, I'll try to help just in case it's for real. * liana hernandez [EMAIL PROTECTED] [031009 15:59]: hi well im sending you this to see if maybe you can help me. my computer burner is not working. What sort of computer burner are you using? I find that the gas type are very effective at burning almost any hardware. Just turn the valve, put a match to the gas and point the resulting flame at your computer. everytime i open it it says it cannot open driver. Ahh, interesting doesn't sound like a gas burner at all. But it doesn't sound like your OS is Linux either. Can you please help. i would really appreciate it. rosa Please post your question to a Windows or barbecue list. HTH, Nick. -- Debian testing/unstable Linux twofish 2.6.0-test7-looxt93c2 i686 GNU/Linux signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: wine
* Peter Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] [031007 12:44]: Hi I'm a freebsd user but decided to try woody at the suggestion of a friend. It's great also. I got most things to work the first time. Welcome. I have a question though. I installed wine Did you install a .deb package or did you build it yourself? and when I tried to install a windows program it gave me the following error. Wine cannot find the Freetype font library. To enable Wine to use freetype fonts please install a version of Freetype greater than or equal to 2.0.5. I tried running apt-get update and apt-get install freetype. But this did not work What do you mean; did not work? Do you mean there was no package called freetype, or that wine still gives the error message. What else can I do ? Thanks for your help. The following will list the relevant available packages apt-cache search freetype I suspect you need to install the freetype2 package. Cheers, Nick. -- Debian testing/unstable Linux twofish 2.6.0-test3-looxt93c3 i686 GNU/Linux -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to manage services?
* Sudeep Mukherjee [EMAIL PROTECTED] [031008 10:17]: Hi I want to disable some services, e.g., Samba. What is the Debian way to do it? Since no one seems to have mentioned it sofar, I will; rcconf. This is a front end to update-rc.d. Cheers, Nick. -- Debian testing/unstable Linux twofish 2.6.0-test3-looxt93c3 i686 GNU/Linux signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: rpm packages - alien
Hi, * Uwe Dippel [EMAIL PROTECTED] [031002 17:24]: I have to install am rpm-package (Radeon driver) in Woody. Newbie as I am, I found alien to use rpms. But an apt-get install alien gets me Package alien has no available version, but exists in the database. This typically means that the package was mentioned in a dependency and never uploaded, has been obsoleted or is not available with the contents of sources.list I'm pretty sure that alien (version 8.05) is in Woody (I checked packages.debian.org). So, I have two questions for you: 1. Have you done an apt-get update recently? 2. What is in your /etc/apt/sources.list Cheers, Nick. -- Debian testing/unstable Linux twofish 2.6.0-test3-looxt93c3 i686 GNU/Linux signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: 2.6.0-test4, ALSA and Ensoniq 1371 sound card
* Christopher L. Everett [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030929 10:37]: when Gnome 2.2 cranks up after I log in, I get an error message saying Couldn't open mixer device /dev/sound/mixer. perusing /dev, I see a /dev/sound directory, but no /dev/sound/mixer I compiled all the sound modules into my kernel and diddled about with the /etc/devs/conf.d/alsa adding entries to try to force it to add /dev/sound/mixer, etc but no avail Are you sure you compiled in everything? What is the output of grep MIXER /boot/config-`uname -r` Nick. -- Debian testing/unstable Linux twofish 2.6.0-test3-looxt93c3 i686 GNU/Linux signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Source file for at.c
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030923 15:00]: attribution snipped by [EMAIL PROTECTED] apt-get source at thanks for this! Extremely easy solution, but still I did not find it using man pages or Google :-( man apt-get Nick. -- Debian testing/unstable Linux twofish 2.6.0-test3-looxt93c3 i686 GNU/Linux signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: modconf under 2.6.0-testn
* Neal Lippman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030922 07:55]: I have been unable to get modconf to work under 2.6.0-test2 or -test4. The program runs, but shows only the exit option, with no modules displayed for selecting. Has anyone else seen this sort of problem,and if, any suggestions? Modconf doesn't work with kernels 2.5. Just use modprobe. Nick. -- Debian testing/unstable Linux twofish 2.6.0-test3-looxt93c3 i686 GNU/Linux signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: why won't 2.6.0-test4 compile\
Hi, * Matt Price [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030919 14:27]: hi everyone, haven't been able to get kerel 2.6.0-test4 to compile on my mixed sid/sarge machine. I have gcc 2.95, 3.2, and 3.3 installed, and have tried setting HOSTCC to gcc-2.95 and gcc-3.2, but even in the best-case scenario I still get massive compiler errors. In the best case scenarios, using make-kpkg, this happens only after the bzImage has been compiled, usually late in the module-compiling process. Module-init-tools is installed, the compiler versions are uptodate. Before I mail everyone the long and tiresome error messages, Don't send the whole build log, just send the the fatal error message. If you don't know how to recognise this you should at least be able to work out what module was being compiled. - is there something crucial that I'm missing? Yes. It is beta code. Some of it is buggy and _won't_ compile (at least this was the case with many of the scsi drivers in test1). Only try to compile the drivers/modules that you actually need. - Is it sufficient to set HOSTCC, or do I need to modify the Makefile in some other way (or, perhaps better, set the CC variables from the shell)? I set the compiler by putting the following in my .kernel-pkg.conf CC:=gcc-3.2 Cheers, Nick. -- Debian testing/unstable Linux twofish 2.6.0-test3-looxt93c3 i686 GNU/Linux signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: remap caps lock key to control
Howdy, * tvn [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030919 11:49]: I used the following in .Xmodmap , it behaves somewhat as the control key except Control (Caps Lock) + a should move to the beginning of the line, but in my case it doesn't . The normal Control key works fine though. Any idea/suggestion ? This is a laptop btw, but the keycode for caps lock is still 66 keycode 66 = Control_L clear Lock add Control = Control_L I turn my Caps Lock into Control with: remove Lock = Caps_Lock keysym Caps_Lock = Control_L add Control = Control_L I think this is a more portable/better solution since it does not require that Caps Lock aways has the same code. And yes, Control (Caps Lock) + a works as expected. Cheers, Nick. -- Debian testing/unstable Linux twofish 2.6.0-test3-looxt93c3 i686 GNU/Linux signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: failed upgrade to unstable... libxrender1
Hi, * Michael Kahle [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030917 13:22]: Hello, I am getting an error when upgrading my distribution to unstable... dpkg-divert: 'diversion of /usr/X11R6/lib/libXrender.so.1 to /usr/X11R6/lib/libXrender-1.1.so.1 by libxrender1' clashes with 'diversion of /usr/X11R6/lib/libXrender.so.1 to /usr/share/libxrender1.1/diversions/libXrender.so.1 by libxrender1.1' dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libxrender1_0.8.2-1_i386.deb (--unpack): subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 2 Any clues as to what I can do to force (or fix) this install of this so that I can move on? apt just exists after this. I've not seen this type of problem before, however it seems that the pre-install script (/var/lib/dpjg/info/libxrender1.preinst) is failing because it is trying to divert (man 8 dpkg-divert) a file to a location that is already used. You seem to have two versions of libxrender installed (version 1 and 1.1). Perhaps you should remove one of them. Nick. -- Debian testing/unstable Linux twofish 2.6.0-test3-looxt93c3 i686 GNU/Linux signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: xdm setup
Hi, * David List [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030916 17:15]: I'm looking into the graphical login setup on my newly installed Debian Woody. I'm used to having a line near the end of /etc/inittab that says how the graphical login screen should behave, for instance: # Run XDM in run level 5 x:5:respawn:/usr/bin/X11/xdm -nodaemon I don't see this in the default Debian /etc/inittab file (I chose xdm as my display manager during installation). In which file(s) is it decided how the login screen should act, on a Debian system? Sorry I don't know the specifics for xdm (I use gdm), but in general you can find out where the config files are for a given package by looking at what files it puts in /etc dpkg -L xdm | grep etc However, I think you are better to first re-run the configuration scripts: dpkg-reconfigure xdm or dpkg-reconfigure -plow xdm If you can't set what you want with dpkg-reconfigure, then try editing the files in /etc by hand. Cheers, Nick. -- Debian testing/unstable Linux twofish 2.6.0-test3-looxt93c3 i686 GNU/Linux -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Modconf for 2.6 kernel
* CaT [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030909 09:41]: On Sun, Sep 07, 2003 at 07:07:26PM +0530, Siddhesh Poyarekar wrote: Hi, Is there a modconf for the 2.6 kenel. The earlier one doesn't work for the newer kernel. Yup. sid has it. apt-get -b source module-init-tools Me thinks not; dpkg -L module-init-tools | grep modconf returns nothing. Modconf is in it's own package. module-init-tools provides modprobe and friends, but no modconf. Or perhaps I'm missing something related to the fact you're suggesting to build module-init-tools tools from source rather than just use the binaries? Cheers, Nick. -- Debian testing/unstable Linux twofish 2.6.0-test3-looxt93c2 i686 GNU/Linux pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Problem compileing
* setty [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030908 10:11]: The error i get is checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (= Qt 3.0.3) (library qt-mt) not found. Please check your installation! Perhaps the following? apt-get install libqt-mt-dev Nick. -- Debian testing/unstable Linux twofish 2.6.0-test3-looxt93c2 i686 GNU/Linux pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Xserver
* J Y [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030905 16:30]: Hi I am new to debian, but have used those big commercial distros. I installed 3.0 but am not having any luck getting X to start. I reinstalled several times taking a lot of time checking the packages. But login just leaves me at the command line. I type startx and get this response: Build Operating system: linux 2.4.17i686 (ELF) module loader present (==) log file: /var/log/XFree86.0.log, (EE) Unable to locate/open config file (EE) Error from xf86Handle Config File () Fatal Server error no screens found XIO: Fatal IO error 104 (connection reset by peer) on X server 0.0 after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining. You need to configure the xserver-xfree86 package. To get some hardware detection try installing the discover package first HOWTO % apt-get install discover % dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xfree86 Cheers, Nick. -- Debian testing/unstable Linux twofish 2.6.0-test3-looxt93c2 i686 GNU/Linux pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: KDE3
* Huw Dixon [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030904 09:41]: Is there a moderately easy way to get KDE upgraded to KDE3? I've tried pointing sources to the kde.org site, updating and upgrading but that gives me a few dozen held back apps and no KDE3. I tried removing with purge kde* and art* and then doing an install of kde but that just gives me a few screens of broken dependancies, etc. I'm back to the 2.2.2 stock version. I'm still coming slowly up to speed with apt but I cant figure out how to get to KDE 3. Any help much appreciated. apt-cache show kde | grep ^Depends then install all the packages it depends on (that are installable) eg. apt-get install fontconfig kde-core kde-amusements kdeaddons \ kdeadmin kdeartwork kdegraphics kdenetwork kdepim \ kdeutils koffice quanta Cheers, Nick. -- Debian testing/unstable Linux twofish 2.6.0-test3-looxt93c2 i686 GNU/Linux pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Duplicating installs across the network
* Roberto Sanchez [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030902 09:51]: The migration of my lab is nearly complete. The two servers are happily running Woody and so far I have one workstation running Sid, and I even managed to get VMWare installed and running properly on it. The last I need to do is get printing back up. Once that is done I will be ready to install Sid to the other nine workstations. I know that there are a whole host of tools out there that for imagining/backup, but I have no experience with any of them. Can anyone out there provide some pointers and insight? What do you all use? Does it work well? I really hope that there is an easy way to this, as I do not want to have to reinstall 9 mahines from scratch. The machines are homogeneous, with the following hardware: snip Identical hardware! Just open up the boxes, put the disks in the machine with the OS and dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb. What could be easier? Nick. -- Debian testing/unstable Linux twofish 2.6.0-test3-looxt93c2 i686 GNU/Linux pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: XFree86 Version 4.3.0 Configuration- No DFP detected
Hi, firstly, please don't post such huge log files to the list unless asked. * Punit Ahluwalia [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030902 13:14]: I upgraded to kernel 2.4.20 and to Xfree86-4.3.0 When I startx I get blank screen for a while and the system returns to console with two errors: 1. No DFP detected 2. No core pointer Ok, X could not find your mouse. There seems to be no /dev/psaux. Before we start to try and debug this, it would be best to know how you got your /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file. Have you tried creating a new one with the following? dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xfree86 Nick. -- Debian testing/unstable Linux twofish 2.6.0-test3-looxt93c2 i686 GNU/Linux pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Internet connection sharing with WinXP: DNS problem
Good evening (or perhaps morning where you are), * J?rg Johannes [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030902 16:56]: There are only two IP's listed in the details field. My own one (Client-IP) and the dial-in server's (Server-IP). No DNS listed :( But anyhow: I have set some important IP adresses to my /etc/resolv.conf (my mail servers) and connection to them fails. Oops. You need to put the IP of a nameserver in this file (man 5 resolver). Just find the IP of a nearby DNS server a put in a line like: nameserver www.xxx.yyy.zzz You can use /etc/hosts to locally store host IP information (as you were trying to do for your mail servers). man 5 hosts. Your /etc/hosts file probably has the following on the first line 127.0.0.1 debian localhost This is assuming you did not change the default hostname from debian. You can add lines with IP addresses and host names after the above line. But I can ping www.debian.org. This is all strange. The IP must be cached somewhere on your machine. I'll wait until I start work at the university and get a real connection. Thanks to all who helped. Good luck. Nick. -- Debian testing/unstable Linux twofish 2.6.0-test3-looxt93c2 i686 GNU/Linux pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: XFree86 Version 4.3.0 Configuration- No DFP detected
* Arnt Karlsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030902 17:23]: Nick Hastings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ok, X could not find your mouse. There seems to be no /dev/psaux. ...nor /dev/gpmdata Actually the log XF86Config-4 was set up to look for /dev/psaux. There was nothing in the log/config file that indicated anything about /dev/gpmdata. Nick. -- Debian testing/unstable Linux twofish 2.6.0-test3-looxt93c2 i686 GNU/Linux pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Alsa and Linux kernel 2.6.0-test4
Hi, * Kevin Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030901 10:33]: Hi- I just decided to switch from RedHat to Debian and so far am very impressed. Another happy convert! I purchased a Dell Dimension 4600 and installed Woody. I then switched to unstable. I found Crafterm's site that had the .deb files for the kernel 2.4.21 and installed them so that my network card would work. On that site he has a file that talks about the audio card and the problems with the SB Live that Dell ships. So I removed that card and enabled the onboard sound. He then talks about installing 2.4.22 of the kernel. I looked and could not find any packages to do this, so I thought if I have to compile a kernel I might as well try out 2.6.0-test4. The comile seemed to go fine but when I boot into this new kernel I get the following message: Starting ALSA (unknown version): failed - ALSA modules not installed Everything else seems to work, my NIC and video and the machine actually seems faster. But I need sound. Ok I don't need it but I sure would like itgrin Are you able to load other modules? I was using alsa modules with no problems with 2.6.0-test1 and 2.6.0-test3. My current kernel (2.6.0-test3) has alsa compiled in (not as modules) and works without a hitch. Nick. -- Debian testing/unstable Linux twofish 2.6.0-test3-looxt93c2 i686 GNU/Linux pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Kernel 2.6
Hi, * Sridhar M.A. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030901 10:36]: I thought of trying out the 2.6.0-test4 kernel. I noticed a couple of problems with it which I am giving below. snip 1. 2. In /etc/modutils, I have an alias for my nic as alias eth0 8139too If I do a modprobe eth0, I get FATAL: Module eth0 not found. But, modprobe 8139too works well after which /etc/init.d/networking start sets up everything correctly. As before, this does not happen in 2.4.22. I do not want to do this every time. How do I automate this as in 2.4.22? echo 8139too /etc/modules Cheers, Nick. -- Debian testing/unstable Linux twofish 2.6.0-test3-looxt93c2 i686 GNU/Linux pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Hi, how can I add a key map to show the desktop under gnomesawfish?? Thanks
* Zhao You Bing [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030901 10:36]: I know that under RedHat there is a CTRL-ALT-D and it's very convenient. Anyone can give me a point? Run run sawfish-ui and set up the keybinding. Nick. -- Debian testing/unstable Linux twofish 2.6.0-test3-looxt93c2 i686 GNU/Linux pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Gnome 2.2 on Sid (not Sis)
Hi, * Hooman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030901 15:45]: Hi, I upgraded my Woody to Sid using apt-get. After installation finished I feel that Gnome has some missing parts (some icons are obviously missing). Can you be more specific. What exactly is missing? In case you didn't know, many things that existed in Gnome 1.4, do not exist in Gnome 2.x. Do you have the gnome-applets package installed? Perhaps these are the icons you refer to. Here is the result of a dpkg command: savalan:/home/hooman# dpkg -l gnome Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold | Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) ||/ Name Version Description +++-==-==- ii gnome 30 a complete desktop environment and applicati What is the meaning of all these? Huh? What do you mean? If you are referring to the dpkg -l gnome output it means that gnome it is installed and you want it to be installed. If you want to know what the gnome package actually is try: apt-cache show gnome Is there any way that I can reinstall the whole Gnome? I think you Cheers, = Hooman A newbie in Linux world __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Debian testing/unstable Linux twofish 2.6.0-test3-looxt93c2 i686 GNU/Linux pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: devfs backward compat. problem (solved)
Hi again, * [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030829 14:36]: Hi all, firstly please excuse possible line wrap problems and lack of my usual gpg signature. I'm sending this via squirrel mail for reasons described below. Yay, no more web mail. I'm running sid with a 2.6.0-test2 kernel with devfs. Yesterday I did a dist-upgrade and then shut down. The devfsd package was _not_ upgraded. I'm not sure if it is relevant but initrd-tools was upgraded. I rebooted today to find that none of the old style device nodes are being created in /dev. For example my root partition /dev/hda4 is not there. As you can guess this causes no end of problems. snip I read the boot messages more carefully (gotta love Shift-PgUp), and saw that devfsd was failing to start. It was bailing out try to process /etc/devfsd/conf.d/alsa (alsa-base 0.9.6-1). The last line of this file must be malformed. I simply commented it out. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ 17% cat /etc/devfs/conf.d/alsa # device permissions for ALSA sound devices. REGISTER ^snd/.*PERMISSIONS root.audio 0660 #REGSITER ^snd/controlC0 CFUNCTION GLOBAL symlink /proc/asound/oss/sndstat /dev/sndstat Any devfs experts know how to fix this line properly? Cheers, Nick. -- Debian testing/unstable Linux twofish 2.6.0-test3-looxt93c2 i686 GNU/Linux pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Getting XFree 4.3?
* Jon Haugsand [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030829 16:01]: My Dell Latitude needs XFree 4.3, but I'm not sure how to get it for my Woody laptop. Trying: snip deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main contrib non-free deb http://people.debian.org/~mmagallo/packages/xfree86/i386/ ./ (And I did do an 'apt-get update'.) Any suggestions? The package name is xserver-xfree86, so: apt-get install xserver-xfree86 Cheers, Nick. -- Debian testing/unstable Linux twofish 2.6.0-test3-looxt93c2 i686 GNU/Linux pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: devfs backward compat. problem (solved)
* Todd Pytel [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030829 16:11]: On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 15:11:00 +0900 Nick Hastings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The last line of this file must be malformed. I simply commented it out. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ 17% cat /etc/devfs/conf.d/alsa # device permissions for ALSA sound devices. REGISTER ^snd/.*PERMISSIONS root.audio 0660 #REGSITER ^snd/controlC0 CFUNCTION GLOBAL symlink #/proc/asound/oss/sndstat /dev/sndstat Any devfs experts know how to fix this line properly? Correct the typo in REGISTER? And the prize goes to Todd! Done and done. Works fine now. W00t! I'm an expert... Thanks. Do you want to file the bug report or should I? Cheers, Nick. -- Debian testing/unstable Linux twofish 2.6.0-test3-looxt93c2 i686 GNU/Linux pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Getting XFree 4.3?
* Jon Haugsand [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030829 18:09]: * Nick Hastings apt-get install xserver-xfree86 Why did it work to write: apt-get install x-window-system Because x-window-system is a meta-package that depends on x-window-system-core, which is another meta-package which depends on xserver-xfree86 which was the package that you originally wanted. Nick. -- Debian testing/unstable Linux twofish 2.6.0-test3-looxt93c2 i686 GNU/Linux pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: virus' on the list
* amg [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030827 13:23]: snip While browsing my inbox, which I only do every several days, I notice messages from places such as [EMAIL PROTECTED] (this was recently, I received (or it was sent?) it: 03.08.28). I am wondering what this is. Did someone send a virus/worm/whatever to [EMAIL PROTECTED] snip A virus/worm/whatever was sent to someone at winram.com. The email From: header was faked to be [EMAIL PROTECTED] The virus was found and a stupid automatic reply was sent to the address shown in the From: header. Hence the noise on this list. Nick. -- Debian testing/unstable Linux twofish 2.6.0-test3-looxt93c2 i686 GNU/Linux pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Checking what's installed
* Kevin McKinley [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030826 10:29]: On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 12:12:59 +0900 Nick Hastings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am installing Debian on a 486 laptop, and because I want to trim down the installation as much as possible, how do I view a list of what's installed by apt-get on the laptop? DSelect is useless as it marks some stuff that hasn't been installed as to be installed. dpkg -l | grep ^ii dpkg -l works just fine, since it only reports the installed packages. I beg to differ: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ 9% dpkg -l | grep -v ^ii | wc 126 9528173 Seems there are 126 that are not both installed and desired. It shows all the packages that it knows about. Nick. -- Debian testing/unstable Linux twofish 2.6.0-test3-looxt93c1 i686 GNU/Linux pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Kernel Upgrade Problems
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030826 10:27]: snip linux-2.2 - linux-2.4 When I tried insmod 8139too (the module for the network card), I get a number of unresolved symbol errors. What happens if you 'modprobe 8139too'? Any ideas? Using insmod does nothing to sort out module dependencies. Using modprobe does. Hope I have given enough information! Providing specific error messages is always best. Cheers, Nick. -- Debian testing/unstable Linux twofish 2.6.0-test3-looxt93c1 i686 GNU/Linux pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Linux - CDR
Hi, * Li-Ren Zhou [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030826 10:31]: Hi, I'm somewhat new to linux in general. I'll keep this in mind. Firstly, please start a _new_ thread if you wish to start a new topic on this list. ie. write a fresh email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] rather than replying to an existing email. Additionally, when replying to list mail please send your mail to the list only. I was just wondering what was a good tool for burning/ripping cd's (audio and bin/cue). Copying audio cd's can be done quite easily with xcdroast. Encoding audio cds to mp3's or oggs can be done with grip. Cheers, Nick. PS. Both xcdroast and grip are just gui front ends to lower level tools (cdda2wav, cdrecord, oggenc etc.). Once you become more familiar with linux you may find it easier to use these tools directly. -- Debian testing/unstable Linux twofish 2.6.0-test3-looxt93c1 i686 GNU/Linux pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Checking what's installed
* Piers Kittel [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030825 11:25]: Hello all Am installing Debian on a 486 laptop, and because I want to trim down the installation as much as possible, how do I view a list of what's installed by apt-get on the laptop? DSelect is useless as it marks some stuff that hasn't been installed as to be installed. dpkg -l | grep ^ii or dpkg --get-selections | grep -w install | cut -f1 Nick. -- Debian testing/unstable Linux twofish 2.6.0-test3-looxt93c1 i686 GNU/Linux -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help me please with TAR
Hi, * Piotrek [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030825 16:14]: Hello, I am quite a new user of Debian, so my question would sound a little bit stupid, but I've got a problem with TAR. I am using a testing version of Debian. I have upgraded TAR to 1.13.25-5 version and as I try to unpack tar.bz2 files with tar xjf ... I get such a message: tar (child): bzip2: Cannot exec: No such file or directory tar (child): Error is not recoverable: exiting no tar: Child returned status 2 tar: Error exit delayed from previous error You are correctly using the j flag to call bzip2 to decompress the file before untaring it. The error seems to indicate that bzip2 is not installed on your system. Solution: install it! apt-get install bzip2 Cheers, Nick. -- Debian testing/unstable Linux twofish 2.6.0-test3-looxt93c1 i686 GNU/Linux -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: postfix + mutt questions
Hi, * Mihalis I. Tsoukalos [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030822 16:16]: Dear list, I have a .alias file in my home directory with entries having the following form: debian [EMAIL PROTECTED] debian-kde [EMAIL PROTECTED] I want to use it with mutt so I have added the following line in .muttrc: set alias_file=~/.alias What else do I have to do in order to use it? put source ~/.alias (without the quotes) in you .muttrc Second problem: The emails to root go to user nobody. I am using postfix and /etc/aliases has no such entry. How can I fix it? You should send all root mail to some other user such as yourself. For example I have root: hastings in my /etc/aliases. However I use exim not postfix so YMMV. Cheers, Nick. -- Debian testing/unstable Linux twofish 2.6.0-test3-looxt93c1 i686 GNU/Linux -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to configure e-mail server
Ahh! * girish jai phutane [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030822 17:14]: hello sir, my name is girish and i am working in symbiosis college i am the system administrator looking after 150 computers and we have a lease line of 256 KBPS and i want to setup a e-mail server in windows2000 server o/s. i would like you to kindly help me out how to configure the mail server step-b-step . kindly do the needfull I was just reading the BOHF articles, but this really takes the cake! ROTFLOL! Nick. -- Debian testing/unstable Linux twofish 2.6.0-test3-looxt93c1 i686 GNU/Linux -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: postfix + mutt questions
* Mihalis I. Tsoukalos [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030822 18:07]: On Fri, Aug 22, 2003 at 04:23:08PM +0900, Nick Hastings wrote: Hi, * Mihalis I. Tsoukalos [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030822 16:16]: Dear list, I have a .alias file in my home directory with entries having the following form: debian [EMAIL PROTECTED] debian-kde [EMAIL PROTECTED] I want to use it with mutt so I have added the following line in .muttrc: set alias_file=~/.alias What else do I have to do in order to use it? put source ~/.alias (without the quotes) in you .muttrc And then, how do I use the aliases when I want to send an email? Just type in the alias and mutt will replace it with the full email address. Second problem: The emails to root go to user nobody. I am using postfix and /etc/aliases has no such entry. How can I fix it? You should send all root mail to some other user such as yourself. For example I have root: hastings in my /etc/aliases. However I use exim not postfix so YMMV. there is no entry like root: nobody in /etc/aliases file so I am wondering why the emails for root go to user nobody. Like I said, I don't know 'cause I don't use postfix. Perhaps someone who does will answer. Nick. -- Debian testing/unstable Linux twofish 2.6.0-test3-looxt93c1 i686 GNU/Linux -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problem with rebooting or shutting down the system
* Hooman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030820 15:14]: Hi, I have recently made my Debian linux working. Now, when I boot the system, I see a login screen in which I can login as a regular user with Gnome or KDE. The problem occurs when I want to logout and reboot or shutdown the system. As I click on logout on both Gnome and KDE, I only get logout option. That option returns me back to the login screen and there, I don't know how to get out. Ctrl-Alt-Del doesn't work. Any idea or solution??? There are a number of ways to reboot or halt the computer. I will suggest one that I think might be most appropriate for you. Sounds like you are using xdm for logging in. I believe gdm and/or kdm provide a little menu on the login screen that let you reboot or halt the machine. xdm does not. Solution: use gdm or kdm. HowTo: apt-get install gdm ( or apt-get install kdm) Note: If you are already using gdm or kdm but see no reboot or halt option, then you need to reconfigure them. For example try dpkg-reconfigure -plow gdm. If this does not work, you can configure gdm with its own gui: gdmconfig (sorry don't know about kdm). Cheers, Nick. PS. Ctrl-Alt-Del will reboot if you are at one of the consoles (Ctrl-Alt-n, where n is 1-6). PPS. Ctrl-Alt-7 should get you back to X. -- Debian testing/unstable Linux twofish 2.6.0-test3-looxt93c1 i686 GNU/Linux -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Best way to upgrade a single app
Hi, * David Corbin [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030821 10:45]: I have a production system, that I do NOT want to migrate to testing/unstable. But, I would like to upgrade one particular package (spamassassin, in this case) to a more recent version. What is the recommended way of doing this? Should I just download and build the upstream package? Can pinning help me? It's easier to get the source package from testing or unstable and then build it against the libraries in stable (ie backport it). Easier still is to look at www.apt-get.org and find if someone else has already backported it. I just checked and it seems you are in luck. Cheers, Nick. -- Debian testing/unstable Linux twofish 2.6.0-test3-looxt93c1 i686 GNU/Linux -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X11 with different keyboards
Hi, * Christian Lynbech [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030821 13:39]: snip Secondly, is there any other way to switch keyboard layout on the fly under X11 (just like I can with `loadkeys' on the console) other than generating a set of command files for xmodmap? apt-cache search keyboard switch Cheers, Nick. -- Debian testing/unstable Linux twofish 2.6.0-test3-looxt93c1 i686 GNU/Linux -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt and changelogs
Hi, * Derrick 'dman' Hudson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030805 11:33]: On Mon, Aug 04, 2003 at 06:10:19PM -0500, Matt Peter wrote: | hello, | | Is there a debian-way of viewing the changelog for an app? I can | usually find them .gz'd up on my system, but it's a hassle, is there | any simple way to view a changelog? Is $ vim /usr/share/doc/foo/changelog.Debian.gz really such a hassle? Or, if you prefer $ zcat /usr/share/doc/foo/changelog.Debian.gz | $PAGER Or even $ zless /usr/share/doc/foo/changelog.Debian.gz how about making a one line script: #!/bin/sh zless /usr/share/doc/$1/changelog.Debian.gz Cheers, Nick. -- Debian testing/unstable Linux twofish 2.6.0-test1-looxt93c7 #1 Thu Jul 31 17:37:06 JST 2003 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how do I get the you have new mail
* Jake Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030807 13:41]: How do I get the message to say you have new mail at the shell prompt? Is someting looking for a specific directory or file? apt-get install biff man biff Nick. -- Debian testing/unstable Linux twofish 2.6.0-test1-looxt93c7 i686 GNU/Linux pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: make-kpkg detects wrong processor type
Hi, * Wayne Gemmell [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030806 09:44]: Hi, I'm trying to make my own kernel useing make-kpkg to solve my earlier problems with DMA etc. When I start the first processor family gets answered for me as i386. I believe this is the default in the .config for the kernel source. I run an AMD K7 chip and I would like to compile accordingly. Then select it... How do I change this default and what possible implications ,if any, would the changes have for the rest of my Debian setup, apt etc?? I've tried bashset HOSTTYPE=k7 bashexport HOSTTYPE but the hosttype variable stays the same. I didn't see the earlier thread to which you refer. That could explain why I'm a little confused, but I'll try to answer anyway. Is there an equivalent for this package with a menu interface like make menuconfig in normal kernel compilations? It is so much quicker... To what package do you refer? If you are trying to compile a kernel with make-kpkg, you still need to configure the kernel (eg make menuconfig), before make-kpkg kernel-image. If you already have a suitable configuration just copy it to /usr/src/linux/.config (or wherever your kernel source lives). Have you looked at the docs in /usr/share/doc/kernel-package? Nick. -- Debian testing/unstable Linux twofish 2.6.0-test1-looxt93c7 i686 GNU/Linux pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Debian Can't See All of Large Disks?
Hi, * Mike Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030801 12:46]: Hi all, I had recently tried to install Debian on a computer containing a 200 GB harddrive. However, during cfdisking of the Debian install process cfdisk fails to see past approximately 130 GB of hard disk space. I'm suspecting this is because it is an old version of cfdisk (later versions of cfdisk seem to see the whole drive). So, does anyone here know how to work around this problem so I can use all of my hard disk space with Debian? Thanks for your help! No this is not a Debian problem. It is related to Linux. I believe that kernels newer than 2.4.19 do not have the 137 Gb limit. What kernel are you using (uname -r)? Nick. -- Debian testing/unstable Linux twofish 2.6.0-test1-looxt93c7 #1 Thu Jul 31 17:37:06 JST 2003 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is there a *console* screen capture
* Alan Connor [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030801 14:17]: Please don't clutter your posts with pgp signatures. Clutter? Says he with the five line signature! Most of us don't have the software to interpret them Speak for yourself. and I, for one, don't give a rip if you are who you say you are or not. We are exchanging info about DEbian/Linux, I guess you mean Debian GNU/Linux. NOT Swiss bank account numbers Yawn. Nick. -- Debian testing/unstable Linux twofish 2.6.0-test1-looxt93c7 #1 Thu Jul 31 17:37:06 JST 2003 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
