Re: What to put on SSD
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 12:02:30PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > Grumpy Old Man says: sell the SSD and buy more RAM. Already did. Get more RAM that is. I went from 4 to 8 GB. 16 is max and I can go to 12 without swapping out existing memory. It's a work machine, so I can't just sell extra parts away, even if I don't necessarily need them :-) Regarding boot time. It may have gone down a bit, but since I have some kind of realtek network chip issue which causes a 30-60 s delay at boot time, it doesn't really make a difference. And since the machine is on 24/7 and get rebooted maybe 3-4 times a year for upgrades, it's a non-issue to me anyway. Pasi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100815122613.ga10...@localhost
Re: What to put on SSD
On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 11:27 PM, Jochen Schulz wrote: > What you might want to find out is whether you have a G1 or G2 device. > G2 supports the TRIM command which helps the SSD to keep up performance. > Otherwise, performance degrades over time, especially when you keep the > SSD nearly full. I have read Intel recommends keeping some of the space > (5-10%) unpartitioned in order to avoid that effect. Thanks Jochen. Lots of good information and pointers there. My SSD was actually a G2 device. There was also newer firmware for the disk available which I installed. >> Maybe set noatime option, > > Good idea, but I do that even on traditional hard disks anyway. I am > using 'nodelalloc' on my ext4, too.=20 Yes, I also found that I had noatime already on. >> but do I really need to deal with other filesystems than ext3? > > Not really. I converted my /home to ext4, just to try it out, but I > don't really know what I gain from that. ;-) I haven't switched home yet, so I have only programs on SSD. But I might also use ext4 for home. > You might want to read Ted T'so's blog entries regarding SSDs: > http://thunk.org/tytso/blog/category/computers/ssd/ This is where the pain starts. I started looking at this and suddenly I was up to my neck in partition boundary alignment calculations. But I guess I finally managed to get them right. Probably wouldn't have made a difference even if I had skipped that part. So far so good. Bigger programs like OpenOffice and the like start noticeably quicker, but the difference is not as big as I thought. I'll see how the system feels once I get home transferred also. Pasi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlkti=qiv01mccjvxhxdd4jyqbuzstzo-uond9nn...@mail.gmail.com
What to put on SSD
I have this: FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/hda1 37G 14G 22G 39% / tmpfs 3.9G 8.0K 3.9G 1% /lib/init/rw udev 10M 640K 9.4M 7% /dev tmpfs 3.9G 0 3.9G 0% /dev/shm /dev/hda2 328G 204G 107G 66% /home tmpfs 3.9G 49M 3.8G 2% /tmp tmpfs 3.9G 0 3.9G 0% /var/lock tmpfs 3.9G 296K 3.9G 1% /var/run tmpfs 3.9G 32K 3.9G 1% /var/tmp /dev/sdb1 917G 289G 582G 34% /root/backup So basically I have root and home partitions and another disk for backups of the whole thing. Now I got a SSD disk, about which I don't really know much. It's a 160 GB Intel, so it should be quite ok. The question now is how to best utilize it in my configuration? Or if I should just find other use for that? I'm thinking for copying the whole root to SSD. Maybe have 40 GB partition for root and the rest for home. I have more stuff on my home partition, but the active stuff is much less. So daily used files would be on SSD and archive stuff on hard disk. Should I worry about the longetivity of SSD? Maybe set noatime option, but do I really need to deal with other filesystems than ext3? What about /var/log and other places where there are lots of writing going on? Pasi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktinybme2q5y_h2zzyrudsavcoxpowvkxzws4j...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Intel Core i5 integrated graphics
On 2010-03-27, Kelly Clowers wrote: > Intel i5 Graphics are enormously more powerful than a G550. Good to hear that. I just need my xterms and browser. Maybe sometime watch a youtube video, but that's about it. And for people like me this new Intel graphics thing seems like a perfect match. Well, maybe the previous generation of integrated graphics would have suited me as well. The motherboard issue with these new H55 boards is not quite as clear as it seems. I understand that this is new technology and maybe it would have been wise to see the next batch of motherboards. But right now the choice was between plain Intel and Gigabyte or Asus with features and more expansion possibilities. And when some review mentioned some doubts about the capacitors in Intel board (not that they weren't good, but that they weren't the top quality), that made me take the Gigabyte. The problem (or how I see it) is that the Intel H55 board offered now isn't the kind of rock-solid oozing with quality -type of product that I would expect and pay a premium for. But instead it's kind of reference implementation that actually is quite moderately priced. Don't know, maybe it's just too cheap to be taken seriously :-) This is getting a bit silentpcreviewish post, but if someone is in the market for this kind of desktop machine, this is what I got: Intel Core i5-670 3.46GHz processor Prolimatech Megahalems cpu cooler Nexus Value 430W power supply Antec P183 case 3 x Noctua NF-S12B FLX fans (with ultra low noise adapter in use) Gigabyte GA-H55-UD3H motherboard The whole bunch works fine and quiet out-of-the-box without the need for underclocking or undervolting that the old processors required (and that Intel boards don't support). In this light the plain Intel motherboard would have been sufficient. Anyway, so far I'm extremely happy with the result. Pasi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/slrnhqsput.j9f@seepia.dyndns.org
Re: Intel Core i5 integrated graphics
On 2010-03-23, Frank Miles wrote: > Sound has worked without any particular intervention - straight > ALSA. I don't do anything complex with the sound system, > though. I tried the sound yesterday and it just worked. That was nice. > As far as the video - while I'm presently using a custom-compiled > kernel, I'm fairly sure I was getting the same rates with the stock > 2.6.32 kernel available in 'testing'. Actually I was referring to xorg driver. Do you use intel driver there? > I got a private e-mail telling me how I could do much better with a > separate card - and I'm sure that's true. I have a Matrox G550 card in my old machine and video performance has never been an issue. If the new integrated Intel graphics are comparable, I'm quite satisfied. Pasi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/slrnhqjgqv.enq@seepia.dyndns.org
Re: Intel Core i5 integrated graphics
On 2010-03-22, Frank Miles wrote: > with the RealTek chip, but as of now it's running fine - running the > Debian/testing (squeeze) with the 2.26.32 kernel, and the RealTek > driver out of nonfree. I got the same kernel from backports and the network chip started to work. I'm still using old 3com pci card though. Haven't had time to check the audio yet. I think it's also Realtek something. You got it working? > The straight Intel board may be a better choice for most. I thought about that, but maybe Gigabyte had more pci slots or something that I thought that I would need in the future. > I needed the RS-232 port, which is available with the Gigabyte board > (external connector added) I got the connector from ebay. It was a nice surprise that the board actually had that, since I thought I would have to get a pci card with serial ports. > I'm getting a bit less than 1000 fps with glxgears on a 1920x1280 > monitor (DVI cable). Is this with intel driver? Did you have to compile the driver yourself? All the necessary requirements in testing yet? > With a moderate CPU load it's drawing around 50watts (not including > display) according to my KillAWatt - pretty darn good for a fairly > spiffy desktop! Besides, it's easy to cool. And because of that it's easy to get a really quiet machine. Pasi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/slrnhqf839.ers@seepia.dyndns.org
Re: Intel Core i5 integrated graphics
On 2010-03-21, Pasi Oja-Nisula wrote: > So the right side of the picture is shown at the left. I just don't > know how I could adjust this. I'm using a vga cable btw, maybe dvi > cable would help? Replying to myself here. Yes, it helps. I searched the closets at the office and found a dvi cable. Change the cable, reboot and vesa works fine with 1280x1024 resolution. So with this, I'll manage for now. Hopefully the integrated graphics will eventually work with Intel xorg driver. Pasi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/slrnhqc4vv.nr5@seepia.dyndns.org
Intel Core i5 integrated graphics
I just retired my 9 year old machine to home use and got a Gigabyte H55-UD3H motherboard with Intel Core i5 processor. Well, the first impressions are that maybe I should have done a bit more research since there are Realtek net and audio chips that might have some issues. Anyway, I have a 3com card for net and don't necessarily need audio at all. The biggest concern now is with graphics in Xorg. I'm using Debian Lenny and obviously the integrated graphics are not supported there yet. But this is strictly a business machine (browser and a bunch of xterms mainly), so I think I would manage a while with even vesa driver. And I even got the vesa driver to work with 1280x1024 which fits my monitor, so this would be a fine solution for short term. Unfortunately the screen looks like this: 7 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 1 2 3 4 5 6 So the right side of the picture is shown at the left. I just don't know how I could adjust this. I'm using a vga cable btw, maybe dvi cable would help? Anyone have any experience with the graphics in new Intel processors? Should I just leave this alone and get a low end ATI card (suggestions for something that would work out of the box)? Pasi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/slrnhqbt1v.m6h@seepia.dyndns.org
Re: Lenny upgrade broke dvi on Matrox G550
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 06:37:17PM +0300, Pasi Oja-Nisula wrote: > But I can't find whether I still need the hal library or should > mga driver support dvi. I have this mga_hal_drv.so which > I think was needed before. Replying to myself here. Yes, I do need the hal library. And in addition the mga driver needs to be compatible with that. I'm not sure, but maybe both need to be the official Matrox drivers. Anyway the trick was to copy both files (mga_drv.so and mga_hal_drv.so) from working Etch installation. Now xorg.log shows that it loads mga_hal also and dvi works like it did previously. Pasi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Lenny upgrade broke dvi on Matrox G550
I've been using Matrox G550 for years. Now I upgraded to Lenny and DVI connection stopped working. I have also vga on my monitor, but I need it for another machine (that's a bit like kvm box without the k and m). X itself doesn't seem to know it's not working. When I command startx, everything initializes etc. and the command does not return. The monitor just says "no signal" though. Text in console is fine. And I don't find any obvious errors in the xorg log file either. I searched a bit and there are reports about dualhead problems etc. But I can't find whether I still need the hal library or should mga driver support dvi. I have this mga_hal_drv.so which I think was needed before. I tried Xorg -configure and dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server, but the results were same. When I switched the driver in xorg.conf from mga to vesa, I started to see picture in X also. And it's through dvi connection. And it's working quite nicely actually. But anyway, maybe the mga driver would be better. Anyone have recent experiences with G550? Or debugging tips? Pasi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Asus P4P800 on Debian
I need a replacement motherboard for tired (capacitors) Soltek SL-865PE-L. As a replacement I'm thinking of Asus P4P800 which are commonly available and which uses the same memory etc. so the upgrade would be limited to motherboard only. However there are many versions of this board and I'm especially wondering about the integrated lan chips. Marvell or 3Com gigabyte lan and when the board was new there were some issues with them. Googling the discussion groups don't seem to bring out any new theads about them. So either nobody is using them anymore or they just work. Anyone here using Asus P4P800 series motherboards? What version? How are integrated lan and audio working? Would you recommend that board? Pasi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 1GB RAM is missing.
On Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 04:04:59PM -, pgega wrote: > I just installed AMD64 Debian, put 4th RAM stick, but new sysytem does > not see the memory, even if I set mem=3900M in grub. Well, the mem-parameter is mainly used in limiting the available memory, not the other way round. I would use that after you see all the memory, but the system is still slow. I don't think that you have mentioned your graphics card yet. As someone mentioned, at least in 32 bit world that memory is taken away from memory under 4GB. That might not be your problem, but something related to bios might very well be. I would concentrate the effort to this before going on with the operating system. It might be helpful to also search Windows users experiences with 4GB on that motherboard. I was going to say that while you have tested all ram modules separately, maybe the fourth ram socket on motherboard is faulty. But I understand that the problem (slow boot etc) occurs only when the fourth socket is occupied, but the bios reports the same amount of available memory? Pasi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 1GB RAM is missing.
On Mon, Oct 22, 2007 at 11:29:37AM -, pgega wrote: > Pasi: what was the RAM seend by BIOS , when I use 4 GiB ,bios sees > only 3052 GiB (But the MSI board can hadle up to 8 GiB) > > If I would rise RAM number with GRUB (like you, 3900GiB), could I get > more then seen by bios (3052 GiB) ? In my case bios reports 3903 MB. Anyway, the usable limit in my machine is less than what the bios reports. One instruction I have heard about these problems was to make sure that bios setting "memory remap" is on. Whatever that is, my bios doesn't have that. Pasi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 1GB RAM is missing.
On Sun, Oct 21, 2007 at 03:13:54PM -0700, pgega wrote: > I tried swaping all of them in any possible order, none of sticks is > broken. I had the same kind of problems with my Soltek motherboard, although 32-bit one, so the following might not apply. But I guess it might be a bios issue anyway, so you can try this. In my case the kernel sees 4 GB of memory, but if I just let the kernel use all the memory, all i/o becomes really slow. The 10 minute boot time sounds familiar. The resolution is to limit the available memory a little. finpasojan3:/proc# cat /proc/mtrr reg00: base=0x ( 0MB), size=2048MB: write-back, count=1 reg01: base=0x8000 (2048MB), size=1024MB: write-back, count=1 reg02: base=0xc000 (3072MB), size= 512MB: write-back, count=1 reg03: base=0xe000 (3584MB), size= 256MB: write-back, count=1 reg04: base=0xf000 (3840MB), size= 32MB: write-back, count=1 reg05: base=0xf200 (3872MB), size= 16MB: write-back, count=1 reg06: base=0xf580 (3928MB), size= 8MB: write-combining, count=2 reg07: base=0xf500 (3920MB), size= 8MB: write-combining, count=1 In my case it seems that the usable limit is somewhere between 3800 MB and 3900 MB. So I set grub to limit the memory with kernel mem-parameter. I have this in my /boot/grub/menu.lst title Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.18-4-686 root(hd0,0) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.18-4-686 root=/dev/hda1 ro mem=3840M initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.18-4-686 Even if this is not the case, you can experiment with the mem-parameter and find out the maximum usable amount of memory without taking out the ram sticks. Pasi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Internet Explorer 6 on Debian Unstable
On Wed, Aug 11, 2004 at 08:31:03PM -0400, Gregory Pierce wrote: > I don't know if this has already been suggested, but you can emulate the > whole Windows XP (or any other brand of WIndows) environment with a > proprietary package called VMware. Unfortunately, it does a cost a > small sum, ~$200. Well worth the money. At first I was a bit sceptical about VmWare, but after using it for several years, I'm a big fan of the product. Not just for running Windows, but for doing any installation/recovery testing. With VmWare testing a new backup system or Linux distribution that might result in reinstalling the whole box is really easy. If things go wrong, just get the backup of the virtual machines hard disk and start over. There's of course the old school way, which is to use Ghost or some other method for making disk images and restoring them. And then there's the ancient school that has lots of boxes that are constantly being reinstalled. But these have the problem of being hardware dependent, so you can't really move installations to different machines. By using virtual machines you can just copy them over the network. Having said that, some people just don't like the virtual machine approach, so it's best to grab evaluation copy of VmWare and try if it fits your needs. Pasi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Home button not working in shell
On Thu, Aug 05, 2004 at 01:54:55AM +0200, Jacob Friis Larsen wrote: > > How do I make the Home button work as expected? Try adding the line *xterm*appcursorDefault: true to /etc/X11/app-defaults/XTerm (or XTerm-color). Pasi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
