Re: nginx.conf woes
On 02/10/2022 16:12, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Sun, Oct 02, 2022 at 04:07:05PM +0300, Patrick Kirk wrote:
If I
try lynx http://cleardragon.com a similar redirect takes place and I get a
"Alert!: Unable to connect to remote host" error and lynx closes down.
I'm not an expert on nginx configuration, but I did notice one thing:
server {
listen 443 ssl http2;
listen [::]:443 ssl http2;
server_name server_name cleardragon.com
*.cleardragon.com;
You've repeated "server_name" twice here.
Thanks. Good spot but sadly that doesn't fix it.
nginx.conf woes
Hi all,
I have 2 sites to run from one server. Both are based on ASP.Net Core.
Both have SSL certs from letsencrypt. One works perfectly. The other
sort of works. If I go to http://localhost:5100 by redirecting to
https://localhost:5101 and then it warns of an invalid certificate. If
I try lynx http://cleardragon.com a similar redirect takes place and I
get a "Alert!: Unable to connect to remote host" error and lynx closes down.
When I do sudo tail -f /var/log/nginx/error.log I see: 2022/10/02
12:44:22 [notice] 1624399#1624399: signal process started
I'm baffled as to how I can diagnose the problem.
Here's my nginx.conf just in case there is some error in it.
Thanks in advance,
Patrick
user www-data;
worker_processes auto;
pid /run/nginx.pid;
include /etc/nginx/modules-enabled/*.conf;
events {
worker_connections 768;
# multi_accept on;
}
http {
include /etc/nginx/conf.d/proxy.conf;
limit_req_zone $binary_remote_addr zone=one:10m rate=5r/s;
server_tokens off;
charset utf-8;
charset_types text/css text/xml text/plain text/vnd.wap.wml
application/javascript application/rss+xml;
sendfile on;
keepalive_timeout 29;
client_body_timeout 10; client_header_timeout 10; send_timeout 10;
server {
listen 80 default_server;
listen [::]:80 default_server;
server_name _;
return 301 https://$host$request_uri;
}
upstream kirksnet{
server localhost:5000;
}
server {
listen 443 ssl http2;
listen [::]:443 ssl http2;
server_name kirks.net *.kirks.net;
ssl_certificate
/etc/letsencrypt/live/kirks.net/fullchain.pem;
ssl_certificate_key
/etc/letsencrypt/live/kirks.net/privkey.pem;
add_header X-Frame-Options DENY;
add_header X-Content-Type-Options nosniff;
location / {
proxy_pass http://kirksnet;
limit_req zone=one burst=10 nodelay;
}
}
upstream RazorHill{
server localhost:5100;
}
server {
listen 443 ssl http2;
listen [::]:443 ssl http2;
server_name server_name cleardragon.com
*.cleardragon.com;
ssl_certificate
/etc/letsencrypt/live/cleardragon.com/fullchain.pem;
ssl_certificate_key
/etc/letsencrypt/live/cleardragon.com/privkey.pem;
add_header X-Frame-Options DENY;
add_header X-Content-Type-Options nosniff;
location / {
proxy_pass http://RazorHill;
limit_req zone=one burst=10 nodelay;
}
}
}
Re: .Net Core program crashes on Linux and not on Windows
Log 2:14:55 PM:- Starting process. 2:14:56 PM:- Auction run for Kazzak EU. 2:14:58 PM:- Connected realm id for Kazzak EU is 1305. 2:15:01 PM:- The realm data for Kazzak EU namespace is downloaded. 2:15:42 PM:- We have 0 to add and 95789 auctions to update and 1883 expired or sold auctions in the database for Kazzak EU. 2:15:42 PM:- Saving changes for Kazzak EU. 2:16:13 PM:- Updated 95789 auction listings for Kazzak EU in 10 batches. 2:16:13 PM:- Marking expired auctions for Kazzak EU. 2:16:14 PM:- Getting Kazzak EU done took 1minutes 17 seconds. 2:16:14 PM:- Auction run for Illidan US. 2:16:14 PM:- Connected realm id for Illidan US is 57. ...snip... 2:18:18 PM:- Auctions scan 1 complete. I took your advice and doubled it. A program that had me baffled this morning is now running perfectly. Many thanks guys! On Thu, 1 Sept 2022 at 16:34, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, Sep 01, 2022 at 03:47:52PM +0300, Patrick Kirk wrote: > > /var/log/messages:Sep 1 12:41:34 debian-s-websites kernel: > > [31104249.962672] .NET ThreadPool invoked oom-killer: > > gfp_mask=0x6280ca(GFP_HIGHUSER_MOVABLE|__GFP_ZERO), nodemask=(null), > > order=0, oom_score_adj=0 > > /var/log/messages:Sep 1 12:41:34 debian-s-websites kernel: > > [31104249.973435] oom_kill_process.cold.30+0xb/0x1cf > > > > Dan - you found my problem. Thanks! > > > > When the program is running I have this: > > Mem: 989Mi 579Mi64Mi 149Mi 346Mi > > 120Mi > > > > It clearly thinks 64M is not enough. I know my program can require up > to a > > Gig of memory for the bigger datasets. What is the minimum GNU/Linux > will > > tolerate so I don't end up throwing money away on unused RAM? > > You said this is a VPS, so it's going to depend on which *type* of VPS, > but mostly it's a matter of how much memory the VPS is allowed to use, > by the host system. > > It looks like your VPS is limited to 1 GB (989 Mi, it says) of total > memory. If your program is coming close to that, then you may need to > talk to your VPS provider and get more memory allocated to you (which > may cost more money). > > Try doubling it. > >
Re: .Net Core program crashes on Linux and not on Windows
Hi Dan, Yes I've been coding for a living for 15 years in C#. /var/log/messages:Sep 1 12:41:34 debian-s-websites kernel: [31104249.962672] .NET ThreadPool invoked oom-killer: gfp_mask=0x6280ca(GFP_HIGHUSER_MOVABLE|__GFP_ZERO), nodemask=(null), order=0, oom_score_adj=0 /var/log/messages:Sep 1 12:41:34 debian-s-websites kernel: [31104249.973435] oom_kill_process.cold.30+0xb/0x1cf Dan - you found my problem. Thanks! When the program is running I have this: Mem: 989Mi 579Mi64Mi 149Mi 346Mi 120Mi It clearly thinks 64M is not enough. I know my program can require up to a Gig of memory for the bigger datasets. What is the minimum GNU/Linux will tolerate so I don't end up throwing money away on unused RAM? Patrick On Thu, 1 Sept 2022 at 15:21, Dan Ritter wrote: > Patrick Kirk wrote: > > I have a program that is meant to run on my Debian VPS which is hosted by > > Digital Ocean. My access to the server is via Putty. Unfortunately the > > program simply stops, silently, after a few minutes. > > > > My code is littered with try catch statements. The console window shows > no > > errors. It just silently fails. > > > > One issue may be that the program is a resource hog working with datasets > > of a million or so records at a time. Perhaps the system kills processes > > that threaten to take over all resources? > > There is a kernel feature called the Out Of Memory Killer, which > kills processes that try to use all the memory of the system. > > > Anyway, I would be grateful for any suggestion on how to track down this > > problem. I'm happy to read the documentation but as you can probably > tell I > > don't know how to start framing the question. > > Did you write this program? > > Are you a fluent .Net Core programmer? > > Has it ever run on some other system? > > What happens if you try with a dataset of ten records? > > -dsr- >
.Net Core program crashes on Linux and not on Windows
Hi all, I have a program that is meant to run on my Debian VPS which is hosted by Digital Ocean. My access to the server is via Putty. Unfortunately the program simply stops, silently, after a few minutes. My code is littered with try catch statements. The console window shows no errors. It just silently fails. One issue may be that the program is a resource hog working with datasets of a million or so records at a time. Perhaps the system kills processes that threaten to take over all resources? Anyway, I would be grateful for any suggestion on how to track down this problem. I'm happy to read the documentation but as you can probably tell I don't know how to start framing the question. Patrick
Re: Nginx and ASP.Net Core
On Mon, 13 Dec 2021 at 13:37, Dan Ritter wrote: > Patrick Kirk wrote: > > 6. If serving dynamic content, where to get it > > > A program running on port 5000 is a fine place to serve dynamic > content from, but you haven't told nginx about it. > > I'll bet you that this "kestrel" program comes with > documentation about using a reverse proxy, which is what you > want nginx to do. > > -dsr- > Hi Dan, Nginx is working well for items 1 to 6 on your list. I followed this tutorial: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/aspnet/core/host-and-deploy/linux-nginx?view=aspnetcore-6.0 As you can see from the logs, there is no problem serving static files. But I can't find how to tell nginx where to get dynamic content.
Nginx and ASP.Net Core
Hi all, I am trying to run an ASP.Net Core site on my hosted Debian box and I seem to have messed up the configuration. All attempts to reach the page on port 80 get 403 Forbidden messages. My error log says: pk@debian-s-websites:~$ sudo tail -f /var/log/nginx/error.log 2021/12/13 06:27:24 [error] 17999#17999: *675 directory index of "/var/www/cxxxn.org/" is forbidden, client: 213.7.43.53, server: cxxxn.org, request: "GET / HTTP/1.1", host: "www.cxxxn.org" If I try lynx http://localhost:5000 locally I get a perfect session. So kestrel is working but nginx is not configured correctly. I think the mistake is in my the config file for cxxxn.org has a line saying: "index index.html index.htm index.nginx-debian.html" To test this, I put a Hello World file in the root folder and it was served up correctly. If I then try http://cxxxn.org/Privacy I get a 404 error. Does anyone know if my guess that the "index" line in the configuration is the problem is correct? How can I configure Nginx to serve content from Asp.Net Core where there is no static html file being generated? Thanks in advance.
iptables issue with ASP.Net Core Port 5000
Hi all,
I have a simple asp.net core site that runs with Postgres which works
fine if I login as root and set it to run on port 80. SSL is done by
cloudflare. I would prefer to use nginx or at least have an iptable
rule to redirect the port 80 traffic. Both have the same failure so for
now I am trying with iptables.
I don't believe this is an issue with asp.net but the line I use to set
ports is:
public static IWebHostBuilder CreateWebHostBuilder(string[] args) =>
WebHost.CreateDefaultBuilder(args).UseUrls("http://localhost:5000";,
"http://*:80";)
.UseStartup();
To run the program on port 80, I have to run as root which I want to get
away from. So I remove the port 80 from Program.cs and then run the
program. Output of nmap is:
Starting Nmap 7.40 ( https://nmap.org ) at 2019-02-13 10:35 UTC
Nmap scan report for localhost (127.0.0.1)
Host is up (0.080s latency).
Not shown: 997 closed ports
PORT STATE SERVICE
22/tcp open ssh
5000/tcp open upnp
5432/tcp open postgresql
If I try the iptables route the command I use is:
iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-port 5000
This works fine for Lynx http://localhost but for my url I get
"Alert!: HTTP/1.1 521 Origin Down"
If I try to use nginx, which I believe is configured correctly, I get
the exact same issue.
Has anyone any idea what's wrong with my setup?
Patrick
Python distutils problem
Hi all, I'm trying to install the Python MySQL connector on Debian testing. If I do 'python -V' I get enterprise MySQL-python-0.9.2 # python -V Python 2.3.3 But when I try to run a script that relies on distutils I get this: enterprise MySQL-python-0.9.2 # python setup.py build Traceback (most recent call last): File "setup.py", line 6, in ? from distutils.core import setup ImportError: No module named distutils.core According to the Python site, distutils has been part of Python since version 1.6 - http://www.python.org/doc/current/inst/trivial-install.html#SECTION00012 Is this a Debian problem, or is there someone who knows Python and can see I've missed something obvious? -- Best regards, Patrick Kirk Mobile: 07876 560 646 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Identifying spamhosts
Kjetil Kjernsmo wrote: [...] I'm trying to put together a web data base to allow people identify which machines are the primary routes of spam into our Inboxes. That's a rather big project If you're trying to put something together to aid people in filtering stuff, only doing this is not going to make much of a difference. [...] Thanks but its for studying the patterns of spammmers. Do they really live off open relays? Or are they mainly dial-up users using spamware? Or people in the Far East who think spamming is what the Internet is for? I get 200 pieces a day now, many from Korea but US based spammers are picking up numbers again. As an answer to your question, I think http://spamhaus.org/ is a good start. However, to do filtering, I suggest you look at SpamAssassin. It's good. But, you have to keep it up-to-date, it's an arms race. Adrian Bunk does a Have a look at my local.cf - it gives an idea of why I need to understand more about how I've been targetted. http://captain.kirks.net/local.cf.txt really good job with his packages, have a look at http://www.fs.tum.de/~bunk/packages/ Cheers, Kjetil -- Best regards, Patrick Kirk Mobile: 07876 560 646 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Identifying spamhosts
Hi all, I'm trying to put together a web data base to allow people identify which machines are the primary routes of spam into our Inboxes. Does anyone have a useful link? Spamcop seem to have a fine list but I don't really plan on spending $1000 right now. -- Best regards, Patrick Kirk Mobile: 07876 560 646 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can't use my console because of logs?
Jamin W. Collins wrote: [...] Start with the archives. This has been asked several times before and answered. HINT: search for KLOGD Good call - http://www.google.com/search?q=debian-user+KLOGD&btnG=Google+Search pulled up http://qref.sourceforge.net/Debian/reference/ch-tips.en.html where "8.6.8 Error messages on the console screen" gives 2 fixes for the problem. I'd never have guessed klogd was the problem. Thanks for the tip. -- Best regards, Patrick Kirk Mobile: 07876 560 646 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Can't use my console because of logs?
Hi all, I have Debian on a firewall which until now has only needed SSH access. Now I need to be able to use a monitor and can't because of errant logging appearing continuously on the screen. This is what appears: Jun 5 15:53:32 enterprise kernel: catch-allIN=ppp0 OUT= MAC= SRC=64.19.48.6 DST=217.36.12.107 LEN=48 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=109 ID=5038 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=52451 DPT=6347 WINDOW=64240 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0 OPT (020405B401010402) Its a continuous stream of info. If anyone can tell me what the problem is or where to start looking I'd be greatful. My firewall rule-set is attached in case that's the problem. Thanks. -- Patrick "Faced with the choice between changing one's mind and proving that there is no need to do so, almost everyone gets busy on the proof. " - John Kenneth Galbraith #!/bin/sh # PATH and modules PATH=/sbin:$PATH; export PATH modprobe ip_conntrack modprobe ip_conntrack_ftp modprobe iptable_nat # Change to your hostname hostname=zulfiqar # Don't touch this any="0.0.0.0/0.0.0.0" #Flush things iptables -F iptables -F -t nat iptables -F -t mangle iptables -X ## Create chain which blocks new connections, except if coming from inside. iptables -N block iptables -N DLOG # Anti-spoofing rule iptables -A block -m state --state INVALID -j DLOG # Continuations iptables -A block -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT # Allow services on lo in entirety - Squirrelmail, etc. need this. iptables -A block -s 127.0.0.1/32 -i lo -j ACCEPT # Allow LAN on eth0 in entirety - assuming the Lan consists # of trusted users only. Otherwise use the Internet rules for # the LAN with exceptions for your machine. iptables -A block -s 192.168.0.0/24 -i eth0 -j ACCEPT # FTP iptables -A block -p tcp --destination-port 21 -j ACCEPT # Open ssh port - there are no circumstances in which denying # yourself ssh access is a good idea. iptables -A block -p tcp --destination-port 22 -j ACCEPT # Open httpd port, if you run websites iptables -A block -p tcp --destination-port 80 -j ACCEPT # Open imapd port, if you provide IMAP mail service. iptables -A block -p tcp --destination-port 143 -j ACCEPT # Open gnutella port - I need this for my URL from gnutella to work iptables -A block -p tcp --destination-port 6346 -j ACCEPT # Catch-all iptables -A block -j DLOG #The DLOG (drop+log) chain iptables -A DLOG -j LOG --log-prefix="catch-all" --log-tcp-options \ --log-ip-options iptables -A DLOG -j DROP ## Jump to that chain from INPUT and FORWARD chains. iptables -A INPUT -j block iptables -A FORWARD -j block ## Set up masquerading - sharing my ADSL connection. iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o ppp0 -j MASQUERADE ## Turn on IP forwarding echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
Re: Spamassassin auto-learn not working
Colin Watson wrote: On Wed, May 28, 2003 at 03:49:26PM -0700, Michael Montagne wrote: [...] In my effort to make it work from a single database of bayesian data, I had added -x to /etc/defaults/spamassassin. This caused bayes to not work. It works fine now as this report shows. Colin, it was your 'sa-learn -D --rebuild' that pointed me in the right direction. Thanks. -- Best regards, Patrick Kirk Mobile: 07876 560 646 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Spamassassin auto-learn not working
My SpamAssassin version is 2.54 (1.174.2.17-2003-05-11-exp) installed on Woody. Arthur H. Johnson II wrote: What version of SpamAssassin are you using? AutoLearn just appeared in 2.50 or 2.52. I have my installations autolearning right now. Hi all. I have tried to put one caentral bayes database for all accounts and for some reason it isn't working. I never see auto-learn=ham or auto-learn=spam after messages. Can anyone see if I've made some error of syntax? -- Patrick "Faced with the choice between changing one's mind and proving that there is no need to do so, almost everyone gets busy on the proof. " - John Kenneth Galbraith -- Best regards, Patrick Kirk Mobile: 07876 560 646 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Spamassassin auto-learn not working
Hi all. I have tried to put one caentral bayes database for all accounts and for some reason it isn't working. I never see auto-learn=ham or auto-learn=spam after messages. Can anyone see if I've made some error of syntax? -- Patrick "Faced with the choice between changing one's mind and proving that there is no need to do so, almost everyone gets busy on the proof. " - John Kenneth Galbraith # This is the right place to customize your installation of SpamAssassin. # See 'perldoc Mail::SpamAssassin::Conf' for details of what can be # tweaked. # ### # General required_hits 5 rewrite_subject 0 report_header 1 report_safe 0 use_terse_report 1 # Experimental # # 1. Google has only spam info on CacheFlowServer - May 27 2003 RECEIVED_IDENT_CACHEFLOW 10 # 2. Who saves a web page to send an email? - May 27 2003 HTML_COMMENT_SAVED_URL 2 # 3.Who puts tables into their emails? - May 27 2003 HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY 2 # 4. Try to get auto-learning working better - May 27 2003 auto_learn_threshold_spam6 # 5. People using a unique id in links to track me HTML_WEB_BUGS 3 bayes_path /var/mail/.spamassassin/bayes auto_whitelist_path /var/mail/.spamassassin/auto-whitelist bayes_file_mode 777 auto_whitelist_file_mode 777 bayes_ignore_header ReSent-Date bayes_ignore_header ReSent-From bayes_ignore_header ReSent-Message-ID bayes_ignore_header ReSent-Subject bayes_ignore_header ReSent-To bayes_ignore_header Resent-Date bayes_ignore_header Resent-From bayes_ignore_header Resent-Message-ID bayes_ignore_header Resent-Subject bayes_ignore_header Resent-To bayes_ignore_header X-Spam-Checker-Version bayes_ignore_header X-Spam-Status # # User Configured Tests # score FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK 4 score FORGED_RCVD_TRAIL 4 # ok_languages and ok_locales ok_languages en en_us tr ok_locales en score CHARSET_FARAWAY 4 score CHARSET_FARAWAY_HEADERS 4 score HTML_CHARSET_FARAWAY 4 score MIME_CHARSET_FARAWAY 4 score UNDESIRED_LANGUAGE_BODY 4 score BODY_8BITS 4 # Various black hole services score FORGED_RCVD_TRAIL 4 score RCVD_IN_NJABL 4 score RCVD_IN_OSIRUSOFT_COM 4 score RCVD_IN_RFCI 4 score RCVD_IN_DSBL 4 score RCVD_IN_RELAYS_ORDB_ORG 4 score RCVD_IN_SBL 4 score RCVD_IN_ORBS 4 score RCVD_IN_OPM 4 score RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET 4 score RCVD_IN_RBL 4 score RCVD_IN_RSS 4
Re: Debian vs. SuSE 8.1
geno said: > A 7-disk set of Debian costs approximately one-third the $50. price of > the comparable low-documents SuSE package. > Other than price, what is the attraction of Debian over Red Hat, SuSE or > Mandrake? 1. Political points about being truly free may not matter that much but for many it is one of Debian's attractions that we a volunteer community. No take-overs, no clubs to avoid bankruptcy, no messy upgrades that force you to buy new disks every year. Debian is permanent - it will always be there and that';s nice to know when you choose a distro. 2. Related to this is that if you install Debian and have a decent connection, the software is always up to date. apt-get update && apt-get upgrade is all it takes. I run it once a month. 3. As that ease of management makes clear, Debian is a quality effort. IMO, the volunteer spirit helps here. If you do something as a volunteer and your goal is to help others, you won't waste time on creating complex upgrade paths that force people to give your employer money. You will want to produce something that is good and will last. 4. A final point also relates to the volunteer spirit - Debain development is slow. Getting CDs in the shops for Xmas just doesn't matter. Having software that meets the standard you set for yourself matters more. In real terms, this means that bleeding edge stuff doesn't get into Debian until Red Hat users have done a lot of the bleeding. There's more but the most important is... 5. This list. Have a problem, post it and answers come in thick and fast (well, more fast than thick). Who else has that level of free support? Best of all, you get to share your experience and be part of the community by helping. Good lord, its ten past six - time to leave work! -- Patrick GSM: 07876 560 646 Diplomacy is the art of saying "Nice doggie" until you find a rock -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Tomcat woes
[...] I found that ie doesn't show why the page fails but Mozilla does. Error: 500 Location: /opencms/ocsetup/index.jsp Internal Servlet Error: java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError Same error for both OpenCMS and mmbase. Permissions look fine - no different from those in the examples which are all www-data:www-data Even if I knew how to, turning off security is not an option. It may be only my mail server but this is a public facing machine. Does anyone with Java knowledge recognise what might be causing this error? Best regards, Patrick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tomcat woes
Hi all, I'm evaluating Content Management Systems for a project at the moment and having a woeful time with Tomcat. http://pkirk.net.dhis.org:8081/ works. http://pkirk.net.dhis.org:8081/examples also works. So Tomcat seems OK. I copied the correct file intp /usr/share/tomcat/webapps for opencms http://pkirk.net.dhis.org:8081/opencms works. http://pkirk.net.dhis.org:8081/opencms/ocsetup/ fails. I try the same with mmbase and get to the same stage and it fails. No error messages to give me a clue. Just a 500 message. Does anyone know how I can go about diagnosing the problem, let alone fix it, as I'm stuffed rght now. Patrick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Installing php4-domxml fails due to missing zendapi
Hi all, Wierd dependency - zendapi-20010901 does not look like a Debian product name. php4-domxml depends on zendapi-20010901 zendapi-20010901 does not appear to be available I'm at a loss here - has anyone any idea on what I can do about this? Thanks in advance. -- Patrick GSM: 07876 560 646 Diplomacy is the art of saying "Nice doggie" until you find a rock -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Outlook 2000 and XP vs uw-imapd
Hi all, A client I put a Intranet in for pointed out an odd problem which I can duplicate on my own network. The default IMAP setup works perfectly for all accounts when they use Outlook Express or Squirrelmail. But Outlook 2000 and Outlook XP crash. Simply dies on contact with the server. He's formatted his disk on the assumption that there was a problem in the Windows setup but the problem remained. Tried from another workstation and realised that Outlook XP crashes when it is used with an IMAP server. I've actaully installed Outlook 2000 on my laptop to check his theory and sure enough, it dies when browsing the folder list. syslog only has 2 entries: Sep 4 08:55:54 enterprise imapd[996]: imap service init from 192.168.0.26 Sep 4 08:55:54 enterprise imapd[996]: Login user=pkirk host=phasar.kirks.net [192.168.0.26] Win2k says it is generating an error log but I can't find any entry in the Event Viewer. Jaldhar - I hope its OK cc-ing you directly rather than hoping you see the post. -- Patrick GSM: 07876 560 646 Diplomacy is the art of saying "Nice doggie" until you find a rock -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newbie C programming question - OT
On Tue, Apr 30, 2002 at 12:01:11AM -0500, Grant Edwards wrote: >On Mon, Apr 29, 2002 at 09:10:42PM +0100, Patrick Kirk wrote: [..] >You're learning C and ypu started with a curses/forms app? >Curses (and esp the SysV form stuff) is getting to be pretty >arcane stuff these days. There are a few people that know it >well, but not too many. There's a CD ripper front-end named >mp3c that has a pretty nice ncurses UI (but I don't think it I didn't choose curses - its just the usual way to do console apps that I access via ssh from wherever I happen to be that day. If there is an easier library than ncurses, let me know please. But so far it seems do-able. Current plan is to have the form inactive but have data entry done on pressing 'e' and each field have a corresponding data entry field that pops up as you enter it. But I suspect that I am applying the event driven model where it doesn't fit so that's why I was looing for sample apps. Thanks to all who replied. Patrick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Newbie C programming question - OT
Hi all, I'm trying to teach myself C and am writing as little PIM to go with mutt in console mode. To date, my only programming type experience has been developing mult-user databases for contact management in VBA. In VBA, forms have fields and fields have events like OnEnter() and OnExit(). I can create very nice forms in ncurses but I can't seem to find the equivalent functions for me to manipulate. So I end up with good forms, a good data structure but no a good way of passing data from the forms to the tables (I like the use of writing fields OnExit() ). Two questions: 1. Is there a C programming tutor list that's recommended? 2. Does anyone know of a ncurses C program that really uses forms and is well commented? Thanks in advance. Patrick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: courier-imap and windows mail client
On Sat, Apr 27, 2002 at 05:22:46PM -0500, dman wrote: > >I'm familiar with : > Lookout/Lookout Express (never!) Not very Pc to ask but why not? Its probably the one that your Dad will find easiest and that means a lot. > Netscape Messenger (works but not the greatest, slow and bloated) Works fine but unstable. > Eudora (is it ok?) No. Doesn't work as well as Outlook and is adware. > Pegasus Mail (supposedly good, never tried it) > The Bat! (don't know much) > mutt (yeah! ;-), but not for my dad) > gnus (? if emacs runs ..., not going to happen either) This will sound like OSS for the sake of it but I put my 8 year old son using Mozilla and he had no problems at all. Its fast, stable and works perfectly with IMAP. I'd use it myself were it not for the lack of the little shortcut panel that makes Evolution such a pleasure to use with IMAP. Why not give it a try? > >TIA, >-D > >-- > >Pride only breeds quarrels, >but wisdom is found in those who take advice. >Proverbs 13:10 > >GnuPG key : http://dman.ddts.net/~dman/public_key.gpg > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Handling lots of mail
On Thu, Apr 25, 2002 at 04:19:30PM -0700, Vineet Kumar wrote: >* Ross Boylan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [020425 13:44]: > > set record="+archive/sent-mail/`date '+%Y/%m-sent-mail-%Y'`" > set mbox="+archive/inbox/`date '+%Y/%m-inbox-%Y'`" > set move # move read mails from inbox to $mbox (default ask-no) Is there a way to set this to only move mails over 15 days old? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Spamassassin tests help please
On Thu, Apr 25, 2002 at 01:28:39PM +0100, My Personal Mail wrote: >On Thu, Apr 25, 2002 at 04:50:23AM -0500, Colin Watson wrote: I've been wading through the documentation and cannot find how to stop spamassassin rewriting the message bodies? Does anyone know how to do this? Patrick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Spamassassin tests help please
On Thu, Apr 25, 2002 at 04:50:23AM -0500, Colin Watson wrote: >On Thu, Apr 25, 2002 at 09:14:32AM +0100, Patrick Kirk wrote: >> I have given up on using my .forward as a spam filter because I've now >.procmailrc now because it's faster): > >header BROKEN_KOREAN_CHARSETContent-Type =~ /charset="?ks_c_5601-1987/ >describe BROKEN_KOREAN_CHARSET I don't speak Korean >score BROKEN_KOREAN_CHARSET 20 > >'blacklist_from [EMAIL PROTECTED]' in ~/.spamassassin/user_prefs, I think I am trying to use /etc/spamassassin/local.cf for these tests. But I can't get spamassassin to see them. Is there anything I need to do? I've restarted the service so that's not it and there is nothing in my home directory that should cause it. Patrick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Spamassassin tests help please
On Thu, Apr 25, 2002 at 09:14:32AM +0100, My Personal Mail wrote: >Hi all, My question was a little verbose so here it is in short form: I want to add to the default set of Spamassassin tests. Does anyone have an example of for example, blocking al email from someone called 'esavings'? Procmail based solutions are not appropriate in that I have a spamassassin filter that works in conjuction with user level .forward files. Moving the user level filters to the spamassassin filter is the objective. Thanks. Patrick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Spamassassin tests help please
Hi all, I have given up on using my .forward as a spam filter because I've now gone up to over 40 spam pieces a day and its a pain to keep adding conditions on each .forward on each account. Just to make clear, my particular desire to stop stuff from Korean and Taiwan is that I speak neither Korean nor Chinese. I wonder if anyone can help with these tests: 1. I am on numerous Korean spam lists. So I want to exclude all email with Korean charsets. How do I set $h_Content-Type: contains "ks_c_5601-1987" to score 20? 2. I get a lot of stuff from Taiwan. Is it poossible to simply blacklist all mail relayed from ISPs with .tw tld? 3. How can I blacklist specific names? For example, esavingszone send me two messages every day and I want them automatically blocked. But they use differing domain nemaes so I want to block [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] and every other [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4. The ISP that uses hanmail.net and daum.net is the single worst offender. Can I block all mail relayed theough these domains? Thanks in advance, Patrick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: check for root kit
On Fri, Apr 19, 2002 at 07:05:31PM +0100, Carlos Sousa wrote: >On Wed, 17 Apr 2002 15:02:02 +1000 >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Massey) wrote: >> ... >> $ apt-cache show chkrootkit >> ... > >That's a scary tool, if I ever saw one. I have it running once a day, >and it almost always reports a possible LKM "infection". Sometimes it >detects 1 process hidden from ps, sometimes 3 processes, sometimes none. >I'm reasonably sure the machine is not compromised, I think the tool is >just a bit too zealous. > Just google the warning and the port number. It does spit out false warnings, but always the same ones for the same reasons. Only worry about "new" ones. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Nosy ftp users
On Fri, 2002-04-19 at 09:48, Mark Janssen wrote: > On Fri, 2002-04-19 at 10:42, Patrick Kirk wrote: > > > I have a Proftpd ftp server with a user called ftp whose password is > > given to clients who need to get drivers, etc. > > Just realised that someone has logged on and cd-ed to my directory and > > downloaded a mailbox. > > But how can I prevent people doing this, as it's a very lax setup that > > could well lead to trouble? > > 1. Make sure directories with 'critical' information are not > world-readable (like home-dirs, mailboxes etc) > 2. Chroot the ftp-account with the files under it (proftp supports Thanks - this seems the best way. chmod -R 1700 /home Is that the right command? Will samba still work with those permissions? -- Patrick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: my isp is being told *i* am broadcasting spam?
On Fri, 2002-04-19 at 03:57, will trillich wrote: > debian-users: i've got what may be a nasty situation about to > happen. any pointers welcome... > > does 'presumed innocent' operate on the mentality of the average > isp? i'm getting the impression it does NOT... > > ideas? help! > > (hopefully i'll still be able to get email tomorrow...) > Hi Will, port 25 is still open but I wasn't able to relay. Tests: telnet to relay-test.mail-abuse.org. It will automatically connect to your machine's port 25 and run a variety of tests to see if your machine is configured as an open relay. a better open relay test ... http://www.paladincorp.com.au/unix/spam/spamlart rest of um http://www.linux-sec.net/Mail/#Relay These links and tips were given to me by Alvin Oga and Jeremy Gaddis couple of weeks ago. -- Patrick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Nosy ftp users
Hi all, I have a Proftpd ftp server with a user called ftp whose password is given to clients who need to get drivers, etc. Just realised that someone has logged on and cd-ed to my directory and downloaded a mailbox. Now as it happens, the only data on that machine is admin messages from cron and the usual debconf messages. But how can I prevent people doing this, as it's a very lax setup that could well lead to trouble? Thanks in advance! -- Patrick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xconsole won't allow input!?!
On Thu, Apr 18, 2002 at 01:01:52AM -0700, Paul 'Baloo' Johnson wrote: >On Thu, 18 Apr 2002, Michael Kahle wrote: > >This is normal. It only reads anything you send at /dev/xconsole. You >can have X start this automatically, with a little tweek (look around in >/etc/X11), and you can get your logs piped to it with a little tweek of >syslog.conf. The reason why xconsole exists should be clear now. I really wish I could stop that xconsole loading but I can't dind it anywhere no matter how mcu grepping /etc/X11 I do. How does one stop it appearing? Patrick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X
On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 06:36:25PM -0400, Ben Collins wrote: >On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 10:57:49PM +0100, Patrick Kirk wrote: >> On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 05:36:27PM -0400, Aravind Vinnakota wrote: >> >Hi all, >> > Somehow I successfully installed Debian 2.2r6 on my Ultra 5 sparc. But I >> >having trouble in using X. Whenever I use X, I get the following error >> > >> >Fatal server error: >> >No valid modes found. >> > >> >The whole error can be seen at >> >http://www.csee.wvu.edu/~aravind/error/X_error >> > >> Have you run the command Xfree86 -configure? that should create a >> working XF86Config for you. > >No, actually copy the XFree86 config sample file from >/usr/doc/xserver-mach64/ Ben was more careful in reading your email as I assume you have a version3 of X. My experience is verylimited in this field so his advice will be better. BR, Patrick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X
On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 05:36:27PM -0400, Aravind Vinnakota wrote: >Hi all, > Somehow I successfully installed Debian 2.2r6 on my Ultra 5 sparc. But I >having trouble in using X. Whenever I use X, I get the following error > >Fatal server error: >No valid modes found. > >The whole error can be seen at >http://www.csee.wvu.edu/~aravind/error/X_error > Have you run the command Xfree86 -configure? that should create a working XF86Config for you. Patrick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Shape shifting reptilians are about to achieve complete control over this planet
On Tue, Apr 16, 2002 at 12:00:44AM +0200, DSC Siltec wrote: [huge gratuitous snip] So is there left that we can laugh at if loonies, spammers and OT posters like the guy who sent this are to be excluded? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: libXt.so
On Mon, Apr 15, 2002 at 09:49:27AM -0700, craigw wrote: >On Mon Apr 15, 2002 at 04:17:43PM +0100, Patrick Kirk wrote: >> On Mon, Apr 15, 2002 at 04:33:10PM +0200, J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) wrote: >> >On Mon, Apr 15, 2002 at 14:37:52 +0100, Patrick Kirk wrote: >> >> Error message: >> >What a great example of how NOT to build a website. They're running on >IIS, practically all their pages are asp, & I can't even load their >stupid site. I had to go there and save it in links text browser just so >I could look at the source. Mozilla & Netscape both load a blank page >with one line of text in the upper left corner: It is awful isn't it. I chose it because its a 100% Mozilla killer on both my systems. Still no-one seems to have a suggestion on how to fix this. I may finally have found a real bug, as opposed to user error. Patrick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Shape shifting reptilians are about to achieve complete control over this planet
On Fri, Apr 12, 2002 at 12:20:02PM +0100, Debian User wrote: >I know this may sound insane, especially to the minds of people who are >conditioned to believe, that the official version of reality is the highest >truth available. Do they use Debian or are they allied to the Beast of Redmond? > >But this is not a joke, and I have found some overwhelming documentation and >research that supports the claim of this email in a book named "The Biggest >Secret - the book that will change the world" by David Icke (540 pages). > Oh David. I remember. I remember David when he was a BBC sports commentator. Then he joined the Green Party. Then he tripped over a leyline into his own personal hell. >I am not affiliated with David Icke or his website in any way, and I will not >mail you again. That presumbaly is because you are David Icke. Last I heard you were in a semi on the south coast. Pity you went nuts. > >- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: libXt.so
On Mon, Apr 15, 2002 at 04:33:10PM +0200, J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) wrote: >On Mon, Apr 15, 2002 at 14:37:52 +0100, Patrick Kirk wrote: >> Error message: >> on contact with sites like www.mobilestreams.com. > >That site appears to use Flash; try disabling the Flash plugin. > Hmmm. That works. But very few sites for kids skip flash. So its a bug in the flash plugin? Or is it a bug in the way moz is processing its requests for access to libXt? In any case, is there a way to fix this or a solution in the works? I can't imagine Moz is nearing version 1 while crashing due to flash. Patrick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Conversion to ext3
On Mon, Apr 15, 2002 at 07:33:45AM -0700, Andrew Agno wrote: >Patrick Kirk writes: > > Perhaps I'm utterly mistaken here but I think the .journal is the > > journal part of journalling file system. A quick look at the ext3 > > howto says how to put it on another file system but I don't know why > > you would bother with ext3 if you don't have a journal. > >I think it was a request for how to get journalling without actually >seeing the .journal file. Some people don't like having .journal >files around. > Does ext3 work without these .journal files? Patrick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Conversion to ext3
On Mon, Apr 15, 2002 at 10:07:54AM -0400, Mark Carroll wrote: >Quick question - how do I convert my root partition to ext3 without >introducing lots of .journal files? Can I make a bootdisk or something >that can convert what's normally my root partition? It looks like, if the >FS is mounted, you get .journal files. Perhaps I'm utterly mistaken here but I think the .journal is the journal part of journalling file system. A quick look at the ext3 howto says how to put it on another file system but I don't know why you would bother with ext3 if you don't have a journal. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
libXt.so
Galeon is dying on me. Very annoying because I just got the family used to Linux as the main OS and now the main use of the PC, web surfing, is almost impossible. Error message: LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library libXt.so Whatever libXt.so is, it is taking Galeon and Mozilla down on contact with sites like www.mobilestreams.com. Anyone know how to fix this? Help please! Patrick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ATI Rage128 fb console in kernel 2.2
On Sun, Apr 14, 2002 at 08:07:07PM +, Soren Andersen wrote: >Hello, > Can't help with your problem but I know how you feel, as do most of us who have had some blasted bit of kit refuse to work, wasted aeons on out of date howto's etc. To be fair to Linux, it starts from a nearly hopeless position. Only a suicidal hardware manufacturer would send a product to market without a windows install disk. In fact, if need be they tweak the hardware to perform better under Windows because that's the amrket where the big money is. Linux users then reverse engineer these products, often producing remarkable drivers that are lean and mor estable than the manufacturer's own. But along the way, quite a few frustrated users get produced as well. Someone will help you - meanwhile, keep your chin up ;-) Patrick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing packages from unstable version
On Sun, Apr 14, 2002 at 07:01:28PM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: >How can I install packages from the unstable version of the >distribution with apt-get? > Rather than a verbose answer, just look at my sources.list and apt.conf To install Galeon from unstable the command is: apt-get install galeon/unstable. This is fairly reliable. At the moment I have one of those endless cycles that make dselect unusable but apt-get always works and the conflicts tend to get ironed out in a day or 2. Hope this helps. Patrick APT::Default-Release "testing"; deb http://www.mirror.ac.uk/sites/ftp.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US testing/non-US main contrib deb http://www.uk.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free non-US/main non-US/contrib non-US/non-free deb http://www.uk.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free non-US/main non-US/contrib non-US/non-free deb http://www.mirror.ac.uk/sites/ftp.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable/non-US main contrib
Re: Vim question SOLVED
On Sun, 2002-04-14 at 07:57, Eric G. Miller wrote: > On Sun, Apr 14, 2002 at 07:41:43AM +0100, Patrick Kirk wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > What is the command to save a file under another name? For example, > > if I have editted a Makefile and do not have write access, how can I > > save it as ~/pkMakefile > > :w ~/pkMakefile > Thank you. -- Patrick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Vim question
Hi all, What is the command to save a file under another name? For example, if I have editted a Makefile and do not have write access, how can I save it as ~/pkMakefile Thanks in advance, Patrick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The Direction of Debian
On Sat, 2002-04-13 at 01:29, Sean wrote: > On Fri, 2002-04-12 at 19:58, Paul 'Baloo' Johnson wrote: > > > > > This is a vaild point, in my mind. Implementing a BSD-style ports > > > structure would help to get around this in my mind. > > > > Explain this one? I'm unfamiliar with ports. > > > > The BSD ports system is one where you download source instead of > binaries. The Gentoo distribution has a similar system, with it's > portage and emerge programs. I'm not a developer so if this is a silly idea just say so and I won't be in the least offended. I've used Gentoo and Portage is indeed very nice. It is simply an application that builds applications from source to a predefined template. It is GPL-ed and the developer hopes other distros will start to use it. Could it be ported to Debian in a way that will play nice with dpkg? It would involve playing with the build template to match Debian and some kind of interface with the dpkg interface. The value of such a port is that it is easy to install source packages into /usr/local without breaking the nice setup of Debian, or so I've always found. Just a thought. Patrick > -- Patrick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: bootsector
On Thu, 2002-04-11 at 19:28, Ted Wager wrote: > Hi.. > On booting up the screen message tells me > "There are differences between bootsector and it's backup" > This is followed by a list of numbers and the message > "Not fixed automatically"...The system works ok but I would like to > know if this can be fixed..I thought it might be the bootloader Do you have partition magic or some such thing installed? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: reply
On Fri, Apr 12, 2002 at 09:48:24AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >On Fri, Apr 12, 2002 at 03:33:39PM +0100, Patrick Kirk wrote: >lets you set up mailing list replies. Then reply only to the person >if it's something trivial that doesn't need to go on the list, or >reply only to the list so the person doesn't get a duplicate. > The joy is Linux is that you have the power to choose. Procmail is your friend. I think its a lot nicer to have the list set up so that replies go to it rather than it and the sender but its not something to lose sleep over as procmail sorts out dupes anyway. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: reply
On Fri, Apr 12, 2002 at 09:46:31AM +, Quenten Griffith wrote: >Is there anyway the list can be setup so when you hit Reply that it >Replies to "debian-user@lists.debian.org" instead of the name of the >person that sent the message. > If the listmaster wants to it can be set up that way. Otherwise, find the reply all option in your mailer. Patrick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Galeon UI changed and how to get it back
Hi all, A couple of days ago I asked how come Galeon had lost some useful configuration options and Karsten Self pointed to gconftool as a way to recover the options that I was missing. I know some other people were interested so here is how to do it. 1. Crash recovery prompt - to get rid of this put this line in your .bash_profile: gconftool -u /apps/galeon/Advanced/Crash/crashed 2. Setting the title bar text (useful if you are running it on more than one box) also by poutting this in your .bash_profile: gconftool --type=string --set /apps/galeon/UI/Windows/windows_title "PHASAR" Also, if you want it to pop up less windows, put this in .bash_profile: alias galeon='galeon --new-tab' which causes it to use an existing process thus cutting down the real estate and resources consumed. HTH, Patrick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Someone tell me the secret of mutt
On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 08:10:52PM -0700, Jeffrey W. Baker wrote: >On Thu, 2002-04-11 at 19:20, Shawn McMahon wrote: >> begin Jeffrey W. Baker quotation: >> u > >I'm sure that would be it, if I could select the deleted messages. >When I use the up/down arrow to navigate, the cursor skips 'D' messages. >Thus I can't undelete them. This reminds my of elm. Easy. Next to the messagesare numbers. Just enter the number followed by Enter and you jump to that message, deleted or not. > >> > * Reply! >> >> r > >'mailboxes' directove, either, because I already tried that. > >When I installed Slackware Linux the very first time, I only had to read >a small HOWTO and I was off to the races. Mutt presents a bigger hurdle >than installing that OS, which sucks a little bit. > Agreed mutt is a bugger to set up. But once it is set up, you stick with the same config forever. And it is very comfotrable to use. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Someone tell me the secret of mutt
On Fri, 2002-04-12 at 02:55, Jeffrey W. Baker wrote: > Ximian Evolution really is a foul pig of an MUA. I love pine, but it is I like Evolution and mutt. But it is interesting how you can have a visceral reaction to these things. > > * Configure it to get mail from my IMAP servers. > * Change IMAP folders. > * Set my SMTP server. > * Use my GPG key. > * Delete mail > * Purge mail > * Undelete mail > * Reply! > To set up IMAP, its best google with mutt IMAP setup as the searchwords. Of course someone on this list may have a working config... Have a look at www.dotfiles.com for good .muttrc files as well as the ones on www.mutt.org -- Patrick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mail rules
On Fri, 2002-04-12 at 01:50, ben wrote: > On Thursday 11 April 2002 05:41 pm, Nathan E Norman wrote: > [snip] [...] > > the point of the thread is to develop an introductory set of rules to be > available to new subscribers as part of their confirmation message, in the > hope of limiting some of the llitter that ends up on the list. when we've Ben, You are alone in saying that removing dupes is too much work for you. Please take a few minutes in front of a linux box and type 'man procmail' -- Patrick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mail rules (WAS Re: The latest round of antivirus bouncebacks)
On Thu, 2002-04-11 at 12:46, ben wrote: > On Thursday 11 April 2002 04:10 am, Paul 'Baloo' Johnson wrote: > > On 11 Apr 2002, Patrick Kirk wrote: > > > Does that exculde the hotmail yahoo whatever browser-based mailer I'm pretty easy about all this. Its all a lot more reasonable than writing to people's employers complaining about stuff Exchange spits out or filtering on MS Outlook. Isn't there a netiquette page where all this kind of stuff is covered? Best regards, Patrick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mail rules (WAS Re: The latest round of antivirus bouncebacks)
On Thu, 2002-04-11 at 11:16, ben wrote: > On Thursday 11 April 2002 02:39 am, Patrick Kirk wrote: > > Hi all, I didn't say force people to use filters. I said that if you don't like something, it makes sense to filter it and things like ms-tnef are particularly easy to filter. > formatting in mail messages. the solution is simple--use plain text. > > so far, we've got three simple rules that appear to be generally approved-- > > 1. no spam > > 2. text-only (no html, ms-tnef, etc.) Does that exculde the hotmail yahoo whatever browser-based mailer people? Personally I don't mind html mail. I score against it in spam filtering but I see a lot of it from perfectly reasonable people. ms-tnef is not a mail format. I think its an autoresponse...I don't know if people choose to send it. > > 3. wrap text Agreed. A tip on how to do this would probably be useful as its not easy to set up if you don't know how. > > --none of which require that anyone radically modify the essential structure > of their own setup. let's stick with simple solutions. The simple solution is do nothing. The list is fine. The rules you suggest are the basis of all email, not something specific to Debian. -- Patrick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The latest round of antivirus bouncebacks
Hi all,
My posts on this topic generated more heat than light - apologies to
anyone offended.
Ben has a good idea about a consensual agreement as part of
subscribing. Rather than dive straight into what goes into this
agreement, perhaps its worth asking a three questions:
1. What problem do we have that needs to be addressed?
2. How do we address these problems in a way that /encourages/ people
to come here for help if they need it?
3. How can we make sure that the list "regulars" are not subjected to
email they would prefer not to see?
I know that answers will vary. Steve for example is fed up of seeing
tnef autoresponses. I never see them because my .forward autodeletes
them. Likewise I only see unsubscribe messages when someone misspells
'unsubscribe' so to me they are not a problem. So please take my
comments hereafter as one person's opinion rather than an attempt to
impose.
Ben's first rule "No spam" - I don't know if we get spam from
subscribers. But a sensible thing to ask for.
Ben's second rule "No html" - why? Are there still email clients that
can't render html? I use Evolution and mutt. Both work fine with html.
People who subscribe from work often will have no say on this. I
remember the horror of Lotus Notes in a previous employer. I couldn't
even get it to mark letters I replied to as replied to let alone change
the mail format.
Others have suggested no attachments. Why? What attachments have caused
problems? Are there some mail clients out there that force you to read
attachemnts? Really, I am puzzled as to why cutting and pasting a long
file would be felt to be better than attaching it.
If I might make a suggestion, why not offer a debian-user .procmailrc
and .forward that does get rid oof stuff you don't need. Most of the
irratations that Steve and others describe simply don't affect you if
you have even minimal filters set up. I have a .forward that filters
over 20 bits of spam daily. The template is
here...http://colondot.net/mbm/mailfilter.shtml#score It really works.
I'm attaching mine so you can try it and see if copying the rules for
tbef, Korean character sets, unsubscribe messages, etc. makes using the
list a more comfortable experience.
dman posted this for the tnef files...or something like it.
if
$h_X-Mailer: contains "Microsoft Outlook"
and
(
$h_Content-Type: contains "application/ms-tnef;"
or
$h_Content-Type: contains "name=winmail.dat"
)
then
logfile $home/.filterlog 0644
logwrite "[$tod_log] ${lc:$h_From:} ${lc:$h_Subject:}:
AUTO-DELETE"
seen finish
endif
Perhaps if we identified the problems that we are trying to fix (in my
question 1) we could prepare a filter that does some of it it
automatically at user level. That would make the list a more pleasant
place for those regular readers who are fed up of unsubscribe messages,
etc.
Its my opinion that this list is fine, that there is no need to change
it. But if change is felt to be needed I hope we can do it in away that
encourages people who are clueless to subscribe anyway.
Best regards,
--
Patrick Kirk
# Exim filter for Patrick Kirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
# Error trapping
if error_message then finish endif
#
#
# Step 0
# Things that must be deleted
# dman posted this for the tnef files...or something like it.
if
$h_X-Mailer: contains "Microsoft Outlook"
and
(
$h_Content-Type: contains "application/ms-tnef;"
or
$h_Content-Type: contains "name=winmail.dat"
)
then
logfile $home/.filterlog 0644
logwrite "[$tod_log] ${lc:$h_From:} ${lc:$h_Subject:}: AUTO-DELETE"
seen finish
endif
if
$h_Content-Type: contains "ks_c_5601-1987" # Why so much Korean stuff?
or $h_Content-Type: contains "charset=euc-kr"
or ${lc:$h_Received:} contains "pknews" # Leaks from usenet
or $h_From: contains "Excite Canada"# Why do they mail me?
or ${lc:$h_Received:} contains "esavingszone.com" # Who? Why me?
or ${lc:$h_Received:} contains "pkgames"# Leaks from online games
or $h_From: contains "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" # Won't go away
or $h_From: contains "wotch.com"# Just won't go away
then
logfile $home/.filterlog 0644
logwrite "[$tod_log] ${lc:$h_From:} ${lc:$h_Subject:}: AUTO-DELETE"
seen finish
endif
#
# My scoring system
# Email that has a score of 100 or more is treated as junk.
# Values s
Re: The latest round of antivirus bouncebacks
On Wed, 2002-04-10 at 19:45, Shawn McMahon wrote: > Perhaps it's time to start refusing list posts from Outlook Express. > What gives you the right to decide who is fit to ask for help using Debian? > That'd eliminate 99% of the "unsubscribe" stupidity, as well. > Then let's exclude those fools who can't even set up their Debian systems. That surely would take out the rest of the stupidity and we could shut down the list. Seriously, is there some reason you're flaming people on the list? This list is a resource for the clueless. This is where people come to ask stupid questions. Many of them post from work. Most all of them use Microsoft products. Most of us want to help them migrate to Linux. And we want all of them using Debian and passing on the word that its a good OS supported by a good community. Sorry to sound cheesey but this is not a forum for proving you're more manly, know more about netiquette or whatever. Any posts you dislike, I strongly suggest you delete. Please help where you can. -- Patrick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The latest round of antivirus bouncebacks
On Wed, 2002-04-10 at 22:23, Christoph Simon wrote: > On Wed, 10 Apr 2002 23:16:53 +0200 > "adam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: . . > > Why don't you just subscribe with a different (private?) account? > I'm shocked. I really never expected to see this level of intolerance in a Debian list. Adam works. His boss has a lousy firewall. Big fucking deal. I'm stunned that someome would be flamed and made to feel unwelcome because of this. Is your time really so valuable that the nanosecond you spent noticing that his boss' firewall spat out a virus warning justifies your asking him to unsubscribe. Please take a few minutes of your valuable time to visit www.gnu.org and think about the type of community that free software is creating. -- Patrick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HAS Galeon UI changed? Solved.
On Wed, 2002-04-10 at 19:40, Karsten M. Self wrote: > on Wed, Apr 10, 2002, Patrick Kirk ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > On Wed, 2002-04-10 at 10:35, Karsten M. Self wrote: > > > on Wed, Apr 10, 2002, Patrick Kirk ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > > Hi all, [...] > into not showing the crash recovery dialog by modifying the galeon > shell script so it runs > > gconftool -u /apps/galeon/Advanced/Crash/crashed > > before starting Galeon. :) > That works. Its ugly but it works. [..] > > ... because we got into a big flamewar about the preferences window a > while back and ended up removing most of the silly options that didn't > make much sense. :) > [..] Very fair points on both sides here. I have a crappy laptop and am trying to run the latest and greatest apps. I use Galeon on a remote machine through X because my laptop crawls if using it and Evolution. I share it with 2 otheres and they simply logout without individually shutting my apps. That must make me a very small minority. I can understand why they changed that option. Its a great app so time to end this particular thread. Thanks for your input Karsten and all others who replied. > -- Patrick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Galeon crashing
Hi, Galeon has started freezing up and shows the folowing error message if I call it from the command line: LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library libXt.so [libXt.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory] LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library libXext.so [libXext.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory] libXext.so is in /usr/lib/mozilla and there is no libXext.so Its only certain sites that cause it to lock - one that always crashes it is www.mobilestreams.com If I run galeon www.mobilestreams.com I get this in top as well as a frozen browser: 14:28:13 up 1 day, 3:29, 2 users, load average: 0.95, 0.82, 0.71 67 processes: 65 sleeping, 2 running, 0 zombie, 0 stopped CPU states: 98.5% user, 1.5% system, 0.0% nice, 0.0% idle Mem:126724K total, 121968K used, 4756K free, 9344K buffers Swap: 445004K total,14728K used, 430276K free,83612K cached PID USER PRI NI SIZE RSS SHARE STAT %CPU %MEM TIME COMMAND 5348 patrick 17 0 20468 19M 14540 R96.0 16.1 0:12 galeon-bin Yes - galeon is taking 96% of CPU. Never goes below 93% if I try that site. I know this is machine specific because it works fine on my laptop. Anyone recognise this? -- Patrick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HAS Galeon UI changed?
On Wed, 2002-04-10 at 10:51, Patrick Kirk wrote: > On Wed, 2002-04-10 at 10:35, Karsten M. Self wrote: > > on Wed, Apr 10, 2002, Patrick Kirk ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > Nope. that option has gome in version 1.2 ^ ^ ^ ^ [snip] > > Someday I'll learn to proof-read... > > OK. That's just embarrassing. I'll learn to proof read now. -- Patrick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HAS Galeon UI changed?
On Wed, 2002-04-10 at 10:35, Karsten M. Self wrote: > on Wed, Apr 10, 2002, Patrick Kirk ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > Hi all, [snip] > >Settings => Preferences => Advanced => Crash Recovery. Nope. that option has gome in version 1.2 > > > Also, there was an option to configure the title bar. It's be very > > handy if I could change it from '%s - Galeon' to '%s - hostmane' and I > > can't find that either. > > Your hosts have manes? Mine only have tails ;-) Someday I'll learn to proof-read... > Patrick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linux utility to recover NTFS
On Wed, 2002-04-10 at 08:05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > HI > Does anybody know what theLinux utility to recover NTFS is called? > Is there a copy for download somewhere in the web? > Thks > Eric > > Its my impression that you sould never ever mount a NTFS partition with write permissions under Linux. That particular fs module is labelled Experimental in the kernel and they do mean it! NTFS is a superb file system - just use win2k to install again in a new directory and you wont' lose any data. (You don't need to format the disk when installing win2k). -- Patrick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
HAS Galeon UI changed?
Hi all, Galeon keeps prompting me to recover from crashed sessions. I'm running it remotely and it usually crashes because the connection breaks. I seem to remember that there was an option called CArsh Recovery under the advanced preferences tab that allowed me to suppress these prompts. Does antone know where it might have gone? Also, there was an option to configure the title bar. It's be very handy if I could change it from '%s - Galeon' to '%s - hostmane' and I can't find that either. Thanks in advance, -- Patrick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Allow a user to shutdown SOLVED
On Tue, 2002-04-09 at 15:23, Patrick Kirk wrote: > Hi all, > > I want my son to be able to shutdown the computer but don't want him > being able to access my files. > sudo allows me to configure it the way I want. Many thanks to all. -- Patrick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Allow a user to shutdown
Hi all, I want my son to be able to shutdown the computer but don't want him being able to access my files. How do I give him these privileges? Thanks in advance, -- Patrick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: good day.
On Tue, 2002-04-09 at 04:22, Greg Ray wrote: > Does it accur to people that maby sending e-mails like this to thousands of > people might be a security risk? This is a mailing-list with allot of > subscribers. True. What's needed is an interface that ensures that whoever from the list replies has their interest prptected. I am happy to be that interface. Naturally, the poor artist needs to have some assurance that you are genuine. So along with your reply to me indicating that you are prepared to provide a safe home for his millions, please send me your passport, ownership documents of your car and a nominal upfront payment to cover my expenses, say $10,000. The address is Bank of the Republic, PO Box 234, Cayman Islands. Sadly, I can only make this offer on a first come first served basis. But I have in my possession the title deeds to a bridge over a river in New York called the Brooklyn Bridge. Think! If you only advertise on it, it could cover the purchase cost in one year only. Personally, I'd charge its millions of users a dollar a day. I can't keep it as I have to go to Nigeria to sing an agreement with the widow of the late colonel (singing agreements is a quaint African custom) so will send the deeds to the first person to wire me $1 million. -- Patrick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2 disros
On Tue, 2002-04-09 at 05:12, j y wrote: [snip] If you have a spare partition try this...its just be written and the author is looking for feedback. http://kmself.home.netcom.com/Linux/FAQs/DebianChrootInstall.html -- Patrick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Chrooted Debian install from base image (was Re: Instalation question: Toshiba TECRA 8000)
On Sun, 2002-04-07 at 05:52, Karsten M. Self wrote: > This is a draft of a HOWTO I'm working on for doing a chrooted Debian > install. It's a method I've found useful over the years. > Hi, I wonder if you would find this link on the gentoo site useful. IMO it is the most elegant set of instructions for a chroot install I've used. I think its because chroot is the _only_ way to install Gentoo. http://www.gentoo.org/doc/build.html They also have an altinstall page where you can install from a single floppy and NFS. The instructions on how to use mount -o loop for a cd are really useful if you only have an iso image. http://www.gentoo.org/doc/altinstall.html In a lot of ways, Gentoo has a site that has more useful tutorials and tips than most Linux resources because their lead developer does them for IBM. http://www.gentoo.org/index-articles.html is well worth a visit. BTW, I stopped using Gentoo after a week or so. It is a lovely distro and portage has the potential to be as good as dpkg. Its very modern and up to date - having a small developer and small number of apps helps them a lot. But Debian is better in that its more solid (Gentoo installs seem to work when the mood takes them or else just chew up your cpu for a couple of hours before bombing out). I run a mix of testing/unstable and it seems like only a couple of hours from things being released by Ximian or whoever. And you get all the compiling from source benefits as well with the deb-src things. I only wish that I could get the apt-get source only things to stick. I used it for a few apps only to have them overwritten by binaries on my next apt-get update && apt-get upgrade. However, like most things in IT, its a question of rtfm-ing I suppose ;-) Patrick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KIZOMBE KAMARA
On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 10:02:53AM -0700, peter kamara wrote: >FROM KIZOMBE KAMARA >DAKAR SENEGAL. >TEL:221-6680399. How does one cathch these with a spam filter? To exclude emails with the names of West African countries seems a little too broad. Its almost always a Colonel who has recently died. "late father" perhaps? Has anyone got a tripwire that catches these? Thanks, Patrick PS - I still prefer the ones that invite you to a meeting at which you will "sing agreements." :-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: less and xterm
On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 09:55:47AM +0200, Patrik Modesto wrote: >Hi! > >The problem: less and zless programs unset options 'Enable Application >Cursor Keys' and 'Enable Application Keypad' in xterm. > Would you consider using aterm instead? Its smaller and lighter than xterm and does you want. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is Mozilla mail brian dead? SOLVED
> > Unless you told Mozilla in the first "get messages" to > save the password you gave, you will be asked to give > it each time you want to access the mailbox. > > -- It doesn't ask for a password when I click get messages. I think its best just assume that Moz can't cope with IMAP on localhost and stick with Evolution. Thanks all who replied. Patrick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is Mozilla mail brian dead?
On Sat, 2002-04-06 at 23:40, Kent West wrote: > Patrick Kirk wrote: > > >Hi all, > > > > I [snip] Sorry about that. I was looking for a lightweight alternative to Evolution that would play nice with mutt. spent about 30 minutes searching Moz menus and Google looking for a box to put my password in and then got very annoyed. Seriously, a trip to www.joelonprogramming.com should be compulsory for whoever came up with this idea of not asking for the password as part of creating the account...every single new user gets an error message as their first experience. How daft is that? > > > > > I use Mozilla Mail almost exclusively. It occasionally crashes > (especially when trying to do anything with the Address Book, which has > some serious issues), but other than that I like it rather well. > > I believe you'll find password management to be under Tasks/Privacy and > Security/Password Manager. No. Thats for slashdot and the like. > > I don't believe that's what your problem is however. It sounds like > perhaps you have a network problem or a typo in the mail server's > address, etc. Using IMAP on the localhost running it from an Xsession across the network. Works a treat with Evolution, if a little slow because the server is a P200MMX from 1997. But it does work. Actually now that I think of it, Evolution also presents an error message the first time you use it. You have to exit, re-enter and then it asks for the password. Maybe its a Linux thing. "If they are willing to compile a kernel, they must be masochists. Lets make them work for their mail" - could be the philosophy. > > Are you using IMAP or POP? > > You might delete the account and then recreate it. If there's a typo > somewhere that you just "can't see", that should take care of it. I only did that twice before sending my rant. But its a good first step. Thanks for replying... > > Kent > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Patrick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Is Mozilla mail brian dead?
Hi all, I tried Mozilla today. Perhaps I missed something very obvious but there's nowhere to enter your password when you set up a mail account. When you fire it it up it sits there giving silly "Connection refused" messages. Obviously it _must_ work and no doubt that under some obscure menu there's a "Hide your email passwords here and even you will never find them" option. But it makes you wonder what has been going on for the past 4 years when the email client still hasn't got basic human interface right. OK. Now that's off my chest could someone please tell me how to tell Mozilla mail that my mail server asks for a password and is there a way for it to store that password? Thanks. Patrick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Am I running an open relay?
On Sat, Apr 06, 2002 at 08:38:04AM -0600, dman wrote: >On Sat, Apr 06, 2002 at 02:58:00PM +0100, Patrick Kirk wrote: >have your "open relay" register itself at dsbl.org, but your system >doesn't relay with the "percent hack" trick. If you were an open >relay (by that method, at least), then it would have sent the message >on and you wouldn't have seen an error message. > >| From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, interesting to know that exim remains unbroken. I was puzzled there as I like exim and wondered how come it was compromised. >| >| DSBL LISTME: smtp >| 6839cgD6QvH1tqiQODyEuQGHn9TFZAdi >| MAIL FROM:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >| RCPT TO:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >| DSBL END > >Where did this come from!? Last I saw there was no way to get a I have two suspects. One is www.xfce.org - I was impressed with xfce and wanted to join the mailing list. It rejected my subscribe request unread saying "We bounce all spam" so the silly sods have a broken filter and arrogant sysadmin. Nice combo! The other is an individual on Gentoo User who take umbrance when I suggested that their security model was too tight for comfort. Its unusual for someone to get so het up they write you angry emails to my personal account so I wonder if he tried to rbl me as well. >cookie (that second line with "junk" characters") and there is no >contact information at dsbl.org. I made a script to make formmail >sites list themselves, but I need a way to get a cookie for it to >work. Right now I can't even find any DNS information for dsbl.org, >so I can't check their web site. > I'll post you the headers... >From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Apr 05 21:00:31 2002 Envelope-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from mail by enterprise.kirks.net with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (P Kirk)) id 16tZss-00046g-00 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Fri, 05 Apr 2002 21:00:30 +0100 X-Failed-Recipients: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Mail Delivery System <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 21:00:30 +0100 X-Evolution: 000e-0010 X-Keywords: X-UID: 13 Status: RO Content-Length: 3153 Lines: 80 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ssh and remote X apps syntax question
On Sat, 2002-04-06 at 14:00, Karsten M. Self wrote: > on Sat, Apr 06, 2002, Patrick Kirk ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > Hi all, >[snip] > I suspect quoting and/or shell boundary issues. I suspect you are right but still don't know how to remedy it. > > How about scripting the ssh component: > > $ aterm -fn 9x15 -rv -ls -e ./ssh-evolution Silently dies after password entered. > > I'm having luck with the following: > > $ aterm -rv -ls -e ssh localhost \( fortune\; sleep 5 \) > aterm -rv -ls -e ssh enterprise \( enterprise\; sleep 5 \) works in that it fires up Evolution and keeps it it up. Insert "&" after the evolution command and it dies...the sleep command never gets executed. Its for my wife and ideally I'd like to have a little script that I can give an icon to and put it on the Gnome taskbar. Having the aterm open works but it is ugly. Thank you for making it work at least. If you have any thoughts on what words I feed to Google to get an answer to this, please do let me know. Patrick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Am I running an open relay?
My inbox has about 12 of these...does it mean I've been hacked or that the relay attempt failed? I though I had Exim locked down nicely but someone has used port 25 if I read "enterprise.kirks.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (P Kirk))" correctly. -Forwarded Message- From: Mail Delivery System <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 217.35.40.123 ] Subject: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender Date: 05 Apr 2002 05:29:06 +0100 This message was created automatically by mail delivery software (Exim). A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed: [EMAIL PROTECTED] unknown local-part "listme%dsbl.org" in domain "[217.35.40.123]" -- This is a copy of the message, including all the headers. -- Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Received: from 2-057.ctame701-1.telepar.net.br ([200.193.160.57] helo=surriel.com ident=wfxnjr) by enterprise.kirks.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (P Kirk)) id 16tLLV-0003Z9-00 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Fri, 05 Apr 2002 05:29:05 +0100 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 4:28:14 + To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Open Relay Test Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DSBL LISTME: smtp 6839cgD6QvH1tqiQODyEuQGHn9TFZAdi MAIL FROM:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> RCPT TO:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> DSBL END This message is a test of your mail server to determine if it will perform relaying (re-sending) of e-mail messages for unauthorized outside parties. This capability, if enabled in your mail server, is widely considered to be serious flaw in mail server security. Your mail server is being tested for relaying capability because we have received mail from it and wish to determine its likelihood to be abused by spammers. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ssh and remote X apps syntax question
Hi all, I want to write a little program that runs the following commands: 1. On locahost, " "/usr/bin/aterm -rv -trsb -fn 9x15 -loginShell -title PHASAR" 2. Within aterm "ssh -l user otherhost" 3. On otherhost, "evolution" Effort so far: "aterm -fn 9x15 -rv -ls -e ssh -f enterprise evolution" which opens an aterm, connects, prompts for a password and promptly dies without a hint of what its problem might be. "aterm -fn 9x15 -rv -ls" followed by "ssh -f enterprise evolution" works perfectly but I can't seem to beidge the two commands. I tried replacing aterm by gnome-terminal. The two commands still work but gnome-terminal dies if I try "gnome-terminal -e ssh -l patrick enterprise" yet "aterm -fn 9x15 -rv -title "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" -e ssh -l patrick enterprise" works perfectly. So aterm seems to be able to get a little further before dying but neither has actually fired up evolution for me yet. Help please. Patrick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: this list or another
On Fri, 2002-04-05 at 20:11, adam wrote: > Hi all, [snip] > Now, I'm not criticising this list (debian-user), but I find myself deleting > messages from this list that I haven't even had time to read the subject of > ! So I'm wondering if anyone knows of a debian-user/admin list that runs the > same sort of policy. > The problem is "why bother?" - a lot of the value of this list lies in the vast array of expertise and opinions. The wheat and chaff come in one huge blizzard. The downside to this is volume of messages. I just unsubscribed from Gentoo user which has 600 or so subscribers. Thats a good size as almost every topic has a lurker who knows that topic, posts only on that topic and is usually right on the money. Debian-user seems a lot busier...every problem posted gets at least 2 and often 4 replies all of which are spot on. And there seems a lot more users but I have no idea how many subscribers there are. Its my experience that if you want help, it comes within 60 minutes of posting a plea for help. If you want to help, just read posts with subjects that interest you. As a rule of thumb, don't read anything over 48 hours old unless you really have time to spare. I delete them because debian kindly archives them on the website. Which is a long way of saying that there are not any other debian-lists that will meet your needs... -- Patrick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian on old notebook
On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 07:04:52PM +0200, Mirek Dobsicek wrote: >Hi all, > >I have few question. Most of time I'm at college and twice a months >I go home for a weekend. I dont have computer at home, and sometimes >I need to continue at my work (coding and writing articles in VIM). > >I'd like to buy some old notebook and install Debian on in. >Right now I can buy i486 at 66Mhz, 8MB RAM, 500MB HDD >for $10 US dolars. OK. Buy a Linux compliant PCMCIA network card. You will grow old and die if you try living with a parallel cable connection. > >Is it good idea to try install Debian on it? Is it possible with 8MB of RAM? > Yes. In fact, you can do it comfortably on 4MB. The only concern is X Windows - I have a very good .twmrc if you want X. It replicates the win95 task bar so task switching is real easy. Also, use aterm instead of xterm. It has more functionality but uses less resources...he difference is tiny on most amchines but on that notebook you won't want to waste resources. >I need it just for VIM writting, man pages displaying, and Lynx offline >browsing. > If you use X, check out dillo for browsing...its a lot more comfortable than lynx though less sophisticated. >What could be the way to install Debian? I'm thinking that easist way >is to connect notebook with my computer with parallel cable and >install from internet. > > Install from floppies. OK it takes ages but you are going to be in front of the machine for ages installing in any case. How hard is it to keep feeding it floppies while sitting there installing? >Or should I forget it and save $10? > > There's a useful tip on running apps on a powerful box but having the display on another at http://hints.linuxfromscratch.org. Anyway, what's $10 compared to being able to say that real men make old notebooks last forever and nvidia cards are just for wusses :-() -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Framebuffer ati mach64 laptop
On Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 10:29:41PM -0700, Cameron Matheson wrote: >Hey, > >X apps shouldn't run any faster at all. In fact, X won't even use the >framebuffer unless you use the framebuffer server, which is probably a >bad idea unless you absolutely have to. > >Cameron Matheson > Thanks for that. Console looks great when you add vga=1024x768 to lilo.conf though. Patrick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Shell Nigeria Tender
On Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 01:35:15PM -0500, Shawn McMahon wrote: >begin quoting what Simon Hepburn said on Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 07:02:04PM >+0100: > Bad day in the office? Too much coffee? Not enough of the wild thang? Surely there must be some such reason for this aggression? Someone sent a silly mail to the list using up a little time. Someone replied using up even less time but they could well have saved us a nanosecond by snipping the original. Meanwhile, people are being blown to bits in Jerusulem. Lets not flame over trivia... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: unsubsribe!!!
Exim does that...but it gets very tiresome. I suspect that the huge amount of Korean spam I get is down to doing that to someone. Patrick On Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 09:03:11AM -0500, Shawn McMahon wrote: >begin quoting what Karl E. Jorgensen said on Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 09:30:29AM >+0100: >> >> I tried that. But if they mis-spell unsubscribe, then it doesn't work... > >What we need is a Mutt macro that bounces fifty copies of their email >back at them. > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Framebuffer ati mach64 laptop
Hi all, Do X apps work faster if you enable the framebuffer in the kernel? I see references to things like directfb and fbset from time to time but I have no idea whether or not they are worth doing. Comments appreciated! Patrick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mutt and vim just will not play nice for me :-(
On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 07:52:37PM -0500, Wayne Topa wrote: >Patrick Kirk([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: >> Hi all, >read it on the list? In mutt, all mail appears to have been wrapped. I suspect the problem only arises with replies to messages and that new messages get a nice format. Patrick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mutt and vim just will not play nice for me :-(
On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 12:35:11PM -0800, Vineet Kumar wrote: >* Patrick Kirk ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [020402 23:11]: >> Hi all, Mine searches for ~/.vim/plugins.*.vim I put your changes in there and I'd appreciate if you caould say if it works or if I'm just banging keys for the sake of it. Is whether or not exceptionally, exceptionally long words wrap a good test? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: To Debian experts
Its a stinker isn't it! Happened to me and I spent ages trying this and that and failing. My mistake was to think that dir was a directroy. Its a file in the info directory that says " This is the file .../info/dir, which contains the topmost node of the Info hierarchy. The first time you invoke Info you start off looking at that node, which is (dir)Top" Rather than recreate it, copy it from another machine. If it helps mine is attached. It won't match your system perfectly but it didn't match mine either when I copied it from another machine yet everything seems to work. That said, I _never_ use info as compared to Google its hard to find what you want. On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 03:18:45PM +0400, FFF wrote: >Hi, > >How can I fix this ? >It happens after installing, in the middle of Textutils >configuration sequence. > > 'Setting up Textutils (2.0-12) install-info: failed to lock dir for >editing! No such file or directory dpkg: error processing Textutils >(--configure) sub-process post-installation script returned error exit >status 2 Errors encountered while processing: Textutils E:sub-process >usrbin/dpkg returned error code 1 ' > >I am a newbie to Debian, and I run out of choices I tried with dpkg >--configure -a, apt-get -f install, dpkg --pending --configure, with >no results. Please HELP !!! > >Regards, Rick > > >-- >To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -*- Text -*- This is the file .../info/dir, which contains the topmost node of the Info hierarchy. The first time you invoke Info you start off looking at that node, which is (dir)Top. File: dir Node: Top This is the top of the INFO tree This (the Directory node) gives a menu of major topics. Typing "d" returns here, "q" exits, "?" lists all INFO commands, "h" gives a primer for first-timers, "mTexinfo" visits Texinfo topic, etc. Or click mouse button 2 on a menu item or cross reference to select it. --- PLEASE ADD DOCUMENTATION TO THIS TREE. (See INFO topic first.) --- In Debian GNU/Linux, Info `dir' entries are added with the command `install-info'. Please refer to install-info(8) for usage details. * Menu: The list of major topics begins on the next line. Development * Autoconf: (autoconf).Create source code configuration scripts * Autoconf2.13: (autoconf2.13). Create source code configuration scripts * automake: (automake).Making Makefile.in's * Flex: (flex).A fast scanner generator * Gdb: (gdb). The GNU debugger. * Gdb-Internals: (gdbint). The GNU debugger's internals. * iostream-295: (iostream-295). The C++ input/output facility (GCC 2.95.x). * Ipc: (ipc). System V interprocess communication facilities * M4: (m4).The GNU m4 macro preprocessor. * Make: (make).The GNU make utility. * Stabs: (stabs). The "stabs" debugging information format. Emacs * Ispell: (ispell).Using ISPELL, an interactive spelling corrector, inside Emacs. Miscellaneous * Groff: (groff). The GNU troff document formatting system. * Rluserman: (rluserman). GNU Readline Library API Information: * Menu: (menu).The Debian menu system Disk Management * Fdutils: (fdutils). Linux floppy utilities GNU programming tools * AutoGen: (autogen). The Automated Program Generator Net Utilities * Wget: (wget).The non-interactive network downloader. General Commands * A2ps: (a2ps).The GNU a2ps 'anything to postscript' converter and pretty-printer * Bzip2: (bzip2). A program and library for data compression. * Diff: (diff).GNU diff and related utilities * grep: (grep).Print lines matching a pattern. * Gzip: (gzip).The gzip command for compressing files. * Ogonkify: (ogonkify).Adds composite characters to fonts and converts ps output * Remsync: (remsync). Synchronize remote files * Tar: (tar). Making tape (or disk) archives. * Shar utilities: (sharutils). GNU shar utilities. * shar: (sharutils)shar invocation. Make a shell archive. * unshar: (sharutils)unshar invocation. Explode a shell archive. * dc: (dc).Arbritrary precision RPN "Desktop Calculator". * Ed: (ed).The `ed' command, which has the purpose of editing text files. * Finding Files: (find). Listing and operating on files that match certain criteria. * sed: (sed). Stream EDitor. * File utilities: (fileutils). GNU file utilities. * chgrp: (fileutils)chgrp invocation. Change file groups. * chown: (fileutils)chown invocation. Change file owners/groups. * chmod: (fileutils)chmod invocation. Change file permissions. * cp: (fileutils)cp invocation.
Mutt and vim just will not play nice for me :-(
Hi all, When I post from mutt, my mails are really ugly because I can't get it to text wrap. In .vimrc I have the setting: au FileType mail set tw=70 fo=tcrq2 nomodeline It was provided by wayne Topa. In .muttrc I have this: set editor="vim -c 'set filetype=mail'" # Must wrap mail Has anyone got this combo working right? Because mutt won't wrap at all. All help appreciated. -- Patrick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Lost addresses or an IMAP type address store question
Hi Jaldhar, There was no connection. The memory still makes me smile - sorry if it appeared as a criticism - it really wasn't. Someday, I'll learn the knack of telling the right anecdote at the right time. sigh. Patrick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Lost addresses or an IMAP type address store question
On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 11:36:22AM -0500, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote: >On Tue, 2 Apr 2002, Patrick Kirk wrote: >apt-cache search openldap for the Debian packages. It's not a turnkey >setup so you might have to do some RTFMing. Reminds me of my first job in IT as a traineee salesman. I was replying to an Invitation to Tender and came up with several questions I couldn't answer. "What's our database?" I asked. "RTFM." " And how do we interact with windows cleints?" "RTFM". Sadly, I was the only one who saw the humour of the situation when Price Waterhouse phoned up to complain about my reply to the ITT. Not a job that lasted long... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: changing the screen resolutionctrl alt + not working
Have you made sure NumLock is on when you use Ctrl Alt + On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 01:59:10AM +0800, Aldous B Bernardo wrote: >Hi, > How do I change the screen resolution in X? I want to be able to shift to > different resolutions. I read that i can change resolution by pressing > ctrl+alt and numpad + but it doesnt work. I tried checking the settings in > XF86Setup and included 640x480 800x600 and 1024x728 as the supported > resolutions. > What am I doing wrong? > Thanks > >Aldous > > >-- >To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: using windoze keys
Create afile called .Xmodmap using the command touch .Xmodmap then edit it to read: keycode 115 = F13 keycode 116 = F14 keycode 117 = F15 Now add the following to .xsession: modmap ~/.Xmodmap exec gnome-session Logout and login again and now you can use the F13, F14 and F15 keys represent the left-Win key, right-Win-key and context-menu key. On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 01:53:13AM +0800, Aldous B Bernardo wrote: >Hi, > How do i use the windoze keys of my keyboard in X? I want ot use it just > like in windoze - to pop up the main menu. I am using potato with > ximian-gnome and sawfish as my window manager. > >thanks > >Aldous > > >-- >To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Optimisations for gcc
Thanks to all. Putting them in /etc/profile was the easiest way to make sure it worked for everyone on the system. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Web-sites for X-configuration for Debian?
On Mon, Apr 01, 2002 at 07:10:08PM +1000, Rob Weir wrote: >On Sun, Mar 31, 2002 at 04:50:37PM +0200, Josef Oswald wrote: >> >> If some-one know some I really would like to know. >What sort of customisations are you looking for? >For GUI things, try www.themes.org >For security tweaks, www.linuxsecurity.org >Try having a look at the Linux Gazette, www.linuxgazette.com(?) it has Actually themes.org is dead. I tried to find gtk and wmaker themes this mornign and found only broken links... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Optimisations for gcc
Hi all, Gentoo Linux has this little file called /etc/make.conf that allows you to optimise gcc CFLAGS, etc. The idea is that when you then compile things, its all set up for your processor and has the max settings to get higher performance. Now, I must say I liked this feature even though I got fed up in the end of everything taking forever to compile. Where can one out these settings in Debian? Patrick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Finding monitor refresh rates? - SOLVED
On Mon, Apr 01, 2002 at 04:54:14PM +0200, Karsten Heymann wrote: >The read-edid Package finds that out for you if your monitor is >dde-capable. Install it and run > >get-edid | parse-edid > >The output can be directly copied into the XF86Config file for XFree 4. > What a fabulous tip! I've just done acomplete reinstall. The configuration of X has always been a nightmare. However XFree86 -configure coupled with your suggestion means that for the first time ever X worked perfectly on the first go! Many thanks - I wonder if its one of the Debian Newbie tips? Patrick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian SID & Configuring X
On Mon, Apr 01, 2002 at 04:03:51PM -0600, Michael Madden wrote: >How do I tell gdm or xdm to start WindowMaker instead of the default GNOME? Hi, In the top left corner of the GDM screen you see a menu that allows you to choose a Debian session, a Gnome session, X session etc. Chose Debian session. Now login. It will ask if you want Debian session to be the norm. Say yes. Now create a .xsession file with 2 words: exec wmaker Logout, login and you'll be in Windowmaker. As a tip, if you have a windows key, you can map it here to F13. Also, if there are partitions you want to mount or remote smbmounts that its a hassle to manually mount, .xsession is a good place to put the commands. Patrick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Lost addresses or an IMAP type address store question
Hi all, I needed to install Windows yesterday so zapped my Gentoo partition (which I was bored of anyway) and slung the Win98 CD in the drive and rebooted. Over the years, I've done this so often on so many machines, its a real bore and I must admit, I didn't pay enough attention. When I thought it was formatting the dos partition I had thoughtfully provided using cfdisk, it actually rewrote the partition table. The full horror of what happened only occurred to me when it took about 30 seconds to format the first 2% of the HD. I rebooted immediately hoping that it would have asked something along the lines of "Are you sure?" before so violent a step but it was too late. So its reinstall time. As I speak, the apt-get dist-upgrade of a tiny base system has completed and I've got galeon evolution, etc. merrily downloading. The only important loss is my address book. I keep data backed up, I use IMAP for email but I've lost all my addresses in Evolution. Is there a way to have addresses stored on the IMAP server along with messages so this kind of thing doesn't cost me my data? What I'm looking for is the ability to have one address book that works regardless of which machine I'm on, just like IMAP does for messages or in the Windows world, like Exchange does with its Address Books? Sorry to take so long to get to the point but does anyone have a suggested package or solution? Thanks in advance, Patrick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
