Re: Help w/failed Sarge install - Dell 8400+SATA

2007-03-04 Thread Peter Farley
--- Steve Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Peter Farley wrote:
  --- Roberto C. Sanchez [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  You really should be using Etch.
 
  Well, some of us prefer not to live at the
  bleeding edge.
 
 Sometimes when you have bleeding edge technology
 you need bleeding edge on your distro to make it
 work. 

Bleeding edge technology?!?!  I bought the Dell 8400
as-is and used (from the Dell bargain area) over two
years ago.  Bleeding edge it ain't.

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 Given that Windows /generally/ has better hardware
 driver support than Linux on the newest hardware if
 XP needed patching then Sarge might just be a
 tad too old to take advantage of the SATA drive.
 
 Unpleasant, maybe.  Dems da facts, yeah.  :/

If a 2+ year-old machine is bleeding edge, what does
that make the latest Dell quad-core game monsters with
dual-X1900 video cards?  Now *that* is what *I* call
bleeding edge.

C'mon, a simple old system like a Dell 8400 should be
long-since supported by stable code, even among the
volunteer community.

FYI, the FC6 install disk sees all my drives, no
problem (though I grant you this, FC6 *is* more recent
than sarge).

However, I may give it one more try with Etch just to
see if it's better.  But I'll probably be using FC6
before that.

My $0.02USD only, you are certainly entitled to your
own.

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Re: Help w/failed Sarge install - Dell 8400+SATA

2007-03-04 Thread Peter Farley
--- Roberto C. Sanchez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 12:30:23PM -0800, Peter
 Farley wrote:
  
  Bleeding edge technology?!?!  I bought the Dell
  8400 as-is and used (from the Dell bargain area)
  over two years ago.  Bleeding edge it ain't.
  
 As Andrew pointed out, Etch is going to release
 anytime now and has been in freeze for a few
 months.  Calling it bleeding edge is not correct.

Well, OK, maybe Etch isn't bleeding edge either. 
Mea culpa.

  C'mon, a simple old system like a Dell 8400 should
  be long-since supported by stable code, even among
  the volunteer community.
  
 Well, the 2.6.8 kernel (shipped with Sarge) was
 released on 14 August 2004.  At *that* time, the
 machine was bleeding edge compared to the
 kernel support for SATA.

Hm-m.  OK, I didn't realize Sarge went back that far. 
Now that I review the Sarge package versions for some
things that are important to me, I bow to your
collective wisdom -- Sarge is not what I want or need.

Thanks for your help in curing my ignorance.

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Help w/failed Sarge install - Dell 8400+SATA

2007-03-03 Thread Peter Farley
Hi all,

Trying to install Sarge to Dell 8400 w/internal SATA
from jigdo'd i386 DVD.  Kernel 2.4 fails to see SATA
internal HDD entirely (CD access OK). With kernel 2.6
using expert26 I can wait to load ata_piix driver
until after CD is accessed, but STILL does not see
SATA drive, only external USB 2.0 IDE HDD.

Web and google searches led me to believe this problem
was resolved in current 2.6 kernels, is there still a
problem?  If so, is there any workaround? (Other than
changing BIOS to compatibility mode, I do NOT want to
go there, still need WinXP partition on SATA to work
for other family use.)

Yes, I filed a failed install report to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  Also reported complete
failure with 2.4 kernel (neither SATA nor USB drives
detected).

TIA for any help or info you can provide.

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Re: Help w/failed Sarge install - Dell 8400+SATA

2007-03-03 Thread Peter Farley
--- Roberto C. Sanchez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You really should be using Etch.

Well, some of us prefer not to live at the bleeding
edge.

Regards,

Peter


 

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Re: How do I apt-get upgrade the kernel for debian-390?

2003-03-30 Thread Peter Farley
Thanks for that info, Scott.  I'll do that and see
what I get.

Peter

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 kernels are special in debian since you have to
 reboot for them to take effect.  apt-cache search 
 kernel-image should show you all the kernels
 avaliable.  Choose one and apt-get install it making
 sure your boot loader recognizes the new one.  Then 
 reboot and enjoy.


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Re: How do I apt-get upgrade the kernel for debian-390?

2003-03-30 Thread Peter Farley
I got it from a DVD install disc for s390 that I
bought from linux-cd.com, plus whatever the install
process got from the stable archive.  The installation
was done six weeks or so ago.  The disc was burned
around Feb 9, 2003, AFAIK.

Thanks for the url for s390 kernel-images.

Peter
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 I'm curious. Where did you get that kernel?
 
 The stable archive lists six 2.4.18 kernels but none
 is for s390.
 
 Go here:

http://tux.cprm.net/pub/debian/pool/main/k/kernel-image-2.4.19-s390/
 
 Download the image to your hard drive and install it
 with dpkg -i full_file_name.
 
 AFAIK the kernel image you install stays on the
 system -- it's not a package that can be removed or 
 upgraded like most other things (I'd like to see 
 this change).


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Re: How do I apt-get upgrade the kernel for debian-390?

2003-03-30 Thread Peter Farley
OK, I went to that link and downloaded what looks
like the right files (please tell me if I downloaded
the right ones:

ipv6-modules-2.4.19-s390-udeb_2.4.19-2_s390.udeb
kernel-image-2.4.19-s390_2.4.19-2.dsc
kernel-image-2.4.19-s390_2.4.19-2.tar.gz
kernel-image-2.4.19-s390-udeb_2.4.19-2_s390.udeb
nic-modules-2.4.19-s390-udeb_2.4.19-2_s390.udeb

It looks like I need to install three things, the
kernel-image, the ipv6- and nic-modules.

But what are these .udeb files?  Are these unstable
deb's?  I would rather install at least a testing
kernel, I'm not quite ready to be on the bleeding
edge.

Should I have downloaded the woody-2 files at that
link instead?

Thanks again for the info, and for any further help
you can provide this debian newbie.

Peter

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 On Sat, 29 Mar 2003 20:17:43 -0800 (PST)
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 Go here:

http://tux.cprm.net/pub/debian/pool/main/k/kernel-image-2.4.19-s390/
 
 Download the image to your hard drive and install
 it with dpkg -i full_file_name.


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How do I apt-get upgrade the kernel for debian-390?

2003-03-29 Thread Peter Farley
I am running stable debian-390 under the hercules
emulator on an RH7.3 base system, and the debian-390
kernel is 2.4.17-s390.  I have set up my sources.list
to add the testing release, but neither apt-get
upgrade nor dpkg -l seem to have anything for the
kernel itself.

Is the kernel not upgradeable with apt-get?  I don't
want to build a kernel, I just want to install a
more current kernel image version than what is in
stable.

Is that even possible?

TIA for any info, RTFM's, faqs, etc. you can offer.

Peter


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