Can't switch to virtual console anymore
Dear all, I can't switch to a virtual console any longer. I'm fairly sure whatever happened must have happened during my last aptitude upgrade, because I switch to VC's very very often. Datapoints: 0. This is a Debian/testing machine. 1. My XF86Config does not contain the DontVTSwitch option. 2. On control-alt-F1, xev reports: KeyPress event, serial 30, synthetic NO, window 0x121, root 0x40, subw 0x122, time 417047, (47,38), root:(1117,396), state 0x0, keycode 37 (keysym 0xffe3, Control_L), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 bytes: XmbLookupString gives 0 bytes: XFilterEvent returns: False KeyPress event, serial 30, synthetic NO, window 0x121, root 0x40, subw 0x122, time 417495, (47,38), root:(1117,396), state 0x4, keycode 64 (keysym 0xffe9, Alt_L), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 bytes: XmbLookupString gives 0 bytes: XFilterEvent returns: False KeyPress event, serial 30, synthetic NO, window 0x121, root 0x40, subw 0x122, time 417935, (47,38), root:(1117,396), state 0xc, keycode 67 (keysym 0xffbe, F1), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 bytes: XmbLookupString gives 0 bytes: XFilterEvent returns: False 3. Once I kill X, I can switch consoles using the familiar alt-[1-9]. 4. There's no output from xinit/startx that I don't recognize as already being there (for example, I've seen the message: Could not init font path element /usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo, removing from list! for at least a year.) 5. When I hit contol-alt-F1 when a vim instance has focus, I see 7P. I will go nuts without my consoles. Any suggestions? Thanks, Pete -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can't switch to virtual console anymore
On Thu 22 Dec 05, 9:43 AM, Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Peter Jay Salzman wrote: Dear all, I can't switch to a virtual console any longer. I'm fairly sure whatever happened must have happened during my last aptitude upgrade, because I switch to VC's very very often. Datapoints: 0. This is a Debian/testing machine. 1. My XF86Config does not contain the DontVTSwitch option. I would expect that X.org has filtered into Testing by now; perhaps the problem is in xorg.conf rather than in XF86Config? Yeah, you're right. I hadn't noticed the existence of that file. Unfortunately, the two files appear to be duplicates # diff xorg.conf XF86Config-4 # so there's no DontVTSwitch in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, either. xwininfo and xdpyinfo don't seem to give any info that appears relevent to the problem. I was hoping they'd show DontVTSwitch in their output. At least then I'd know what was causing the problem. This is so wierd... Any other suggestions? Thanks! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can't switch to virtual console anymore
On Thu 22 Dec 05, 9:09 AM, p p said: Dear all, I can't switch to a virtual console any longer. I'm fairly sure whatever happened must have happened during my last aptitude upgrade, because I switch to VC's very very often. Datapoints: 0. This is a Debian/testing machine. 1. My XF86Config does not contain the DontVTSwitch option. 2. On control-alt-F1, xev reports: KeyPress event, serial 30, synthetic NO, window 0x121, root 0x40, subw 0x122, time 417047, (47,38), root:(1117,396), state 0x0, keycode 37 (keysym 0xffe3, Control_L), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 bytes: XmbLookupString gives 0 bytes: XFilterEvent returns: False KeyPress event, serial 30, synthetic NO, window 0x121, root 0x40, subw 0x122, time 417495, (47,38), root:(1117,396), state 0x4, keycode 64 (keysym 0xffe9, Alt_L), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 bytes: XmbLookupString gives 0 bytes: XFilterEvent returns: False KeyPress event, serial 30, synthetic NO, window 0x121, root 0x40, subw 0x122, time 417935, (47,38), root:(1117,396), state 0xc, keycode 67 (keysym 0xffbe, F1), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 bytes: XmbLookupString gives 0 bytes: XFilterEvent returns: False 3. Once I kill X, I can switch consoles using the familiar alt-[1-9]. 4. There's no output from xinit/startx that I don't recognize as already being there (for example, I've seen the message: Could not init font path element /usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo, removing from list! for at least a year.) 5. When I hit contol-alt-F1 when a vim instance has focus, I see 7P. I will go nuts without my consoles. Any suggestions? Thanks, Pete Problem solved. It turned out to be one of those warnings I recognized. For years, X complained that there was no XkbVariant named Microsoft in response to the line: Section InputDevice ... Option XkbVariant Microsoft ... EndSection I'm not sure when that line appeared in my config file. Quite possibly back when I was using Suse 6.1, way before I switched to Debian. I guess I just toted the config file around, and only changed mode, horiz and vertical timings when configuring a new system. The warning didn't have any adverse effect, and I always promised myself to look into it when time permitted me to delve into learning the nitty gritty details of keyboards under X. There always seemed to be more pressing issues. And besides, it's difficult to get excited about learning details of keyboards under X. It seems more complicated than it ought to be. And dry. Short story is, that line always caused a benign warning. Since I was (potentially) having trouble with the keyboard, I started to scrutinize the X output, even looking at things which I didn't think had relevence to the problem at hand. That trained my eye on the warning. I'm not sure what got upgraded yesterday, but whatever it was, that warning apparently was no longer benign. I removed the XbdVariant, and now everything is back to normal. Pete -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: system.map files
On Tue 31 May 05, 1:49 PM, Jon Dowland [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: LeVA wrote: Hi! Would someone please tell me what are those /boot/System.map* files for? Thanks! Daniel The website http://www.dirac.org/linux/system.map/ (via google) describes it so well that any attempt to summarize would pale in comparison. So I won't :) Whoa!!! Very nice complement. Thanks, Jon. It took me a long time to research all that information. You just made my morning! Pete -- Every theory is killed sooner or later, but if the theory has good in it, that good is embodied and continued in the next theory. -- Albert Einstein GPG Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Discover device drivers built into a kernel image
On Tue 31 May 05, 1:51 PM, s. keeling [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Incoming from Paulo M C Aragão: How do I discover which device drivers are built into a given kernel image, not accessing the sources ? Check the config file that came with it? cd /boot ls -l config* uname -a If it's enabled in the kernel, you can also do zcat /proc/config.gz It's been a long time since I've used a stock Debian kernel, so I don't know if they have it enabled by default. Pete -- Every theory is killed sooner or later, but if the theory has good in it, that good is embodied and continued in the next theory. -- Albert Einstein GPG Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Grub and dual booting
Hi all, I'm a recent lilo convert, so I'm rather new to grub. Summary === I recently had to reinstall MS Windows XP (sigh), and I'm now having trouble getting grub to boot it. Debian boots OK. When booting XP, I see: Disk error Press any key to restart Missing operating system The System == BIOS is set to boot off the PATA drive. The drives on the system are: hda PATA: (all ext3) Various backup partitions. Expendable. Contains the system's MBR. hde SATA: MS Windows XP (all FAT32) hde1 (hd1,0) MS Windows OS (bootable) hde2 (hd1,1) D drive hde3 (hd1,2) E drive hdg SATA: GNU/Linux (all ext3) hdg1 (hd2,0) /boot hdg2 (hd2,1) /var hdg3 (hd2,2) swap hdg5 (hd2,4) /home hdg6 (hd2,5) / hdg7 (hd2,6) /usr/local Grub Configuration == Grub was installed on /dev/hda. My grub menu looks like this: titleDebian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.10 root (hd2,0) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.10 root=/dev/hdg6 ro savedefault boot titleWindows NT/2000/XP map (hd0) (hd1) map (hd1) (hd0) rootnoverify (hd1,0) savedefault makeactive chainloader +1 What I tried When I installed XP, I removed the PATA drive so XP thought it was installing itself onto the first drive. After finding that XP wouldn't boot, I tried: 1. disconnect the PATA drive 2. run the Windows XP recovery console 3. use fixmbr and fixboot. 4. reconnect the PATA drive But it didn't work. I'm a little reluctant to repeat the above procedure without taking the PATA drive out because I don't want to lose the ability to boot into Debian. I'm also very unknowledgable with Microsoft's operating systems. I don't understand why this isn't working: * BIOS boots of the PATA drive. * Grub is installed in the MBR on the PATA drive. * Windows first bootloader is on the MBR of (hd1) * I'm not sure how Windows boots after that, but I assume this is where the problem is. What exactly happens once the MS first bootloader is loaded? Any ideas? I'm on unfamiliar ground all around. Should I try running fixboot with the PATA drive still connected? Thanks! Pete -- Every theory is killed sooner or later, but if the theory has good in it, that good is embodied and continued in the next theory. -- Albert Einstein GPG Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dual booting with XP: trouble with grub
Hi all, I'm a recent lilo convert, so I'm rather new to grub. Summary === I recently had to reinstall MS Windows XP (sigh), and I'm now having trouble getting grub to boot it. Debian boots OK. When booting XP, I see: Disk error Press any key to restart Missing operating system The System == BIOS is set to boot off the PATA drive. The drives on the system are: hda PATA: (all ext3) Various backup partitions. Expendable. Contains the system's MBR. hde SATA: MS Windows XP (all FAT32) hde1 (hd1,0) MS Windows OS (bootable) hde2 (hd1,1) D drive hde3 (hd1,2) E drive hdg SATA: GNU/Linux (all ext3) hdg1 (hd2,0) /boot hdg2 (hd2,1) /var hdg3 (hd2,2) swap hdg5 (hd2,4) /home hdg6 (hd2,5) / hdg7 (hd2,6) /usr/local Grub Configuration == Grub was installed on /dev/hda. My grub menu looks like this: titleDebian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.10 root (hd2,0) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.10 root=/dev/hdg6 ro savedefault boot titleWindows NT/2000/XP map (hd0) (hd1) map (hd1) (hd0) rootnoverify (hd1,0) savedefault makeactive chainloader +1 What I tried When I installed XP, I removed the PATA drive so XP thought it was installing itself onto the first drive. After finding that XP wouldn't boot, I tried: 1. disconnect the PATA drive 2. run the Windows XP recovery console 3. use fixmbr and fixboot. 4. reconnect the PATA drive But it didn't work. I'm a little reluctant to repeat the above procedure without taking the PATA drive out because I don't want to lose the ability to boot into Debian. I'm also very unknowledgable with Microsoft's operating systems. I don't understand why this isn't working: * BIOS boots of the PATA drive. * Grub is installed in the MBR on the PATA drive. * Windows first bootloader is on the MBR of (hd1) * I'm not sure how Windows boots after that, but I assume this is where the problem is. What exactly happens once the MS first bootloader is loaded? Any ideas? I'm on unfamiliar ground all around. Should I try running fixboot with the PATA drive still connected? Thanks! Pete -- Every theory is killed sooner or later, but if the theory has good in it, that good is embodied and continued in the next theory. -- Albert Einstein GPG Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D - End forwarded message - -- Every theory is killed sooner or later, but if the theory has good in it, that good is embodied and continued in the next theory. -- Albert Einstein GPG Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [xine-user] Cracking noise playing Audio CDs on kaffeine/xine
On Mon 30 May 05, 4:40 PM, Paulo M C Aragão [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Hi James, On Mon, May 30, 2005 at 06:13:29PM +0100, James Stembridge wrote: I hear a constant cracking/skipping noise when I play Audio CDs with kaffeine/xine. I'm using both straight out-of-the-box, installed from Debian binary packages. Some info about my setup: OS: Debian Sarge with KDE 3.3.2 Sound driver: sb Audio system: aRts (libarts1 1.3.2-3) Does it still happen when you stop using arts? Actually I didn't try it. Do you think alsa or OSS might solve the problem ? alsa and oss are kernel land sound drivers that drive your audio hardware. you either use one or the other. oss is the old (deprecated) driver and alsa is the new (it's been around for awhile) driver. you already have alsa (more likely) or oss (less likely) enabled. arts is a user land sound daemon (that i think is associated with kde) that sits in between the sound drivers (alsa and oss) and your audio programs (like xmms, sox, audacity, etc). people like sound daemons because normally, only one program can have access to hardware resources at a time. so if you're playing an ogg file, any other program that wants to play a sound won't be able to use audio. a sound daemon negotiates use between two programs that want to play a sound at the same time. people don't like sound daemons because they add a level of complexity. unlike windows, where the sound daemon is part of the kernel, there are a few sound daemons (arts, esd, maybe some others) and so there's no there's no standard on how to interact with a sound daemon. a program like xmms needs to know how to talk to each individual sound daemon. the situation is not unlike the DOS era where a game had to support individual sound cards. linux sound apps have to know how to interact with the various sound daemons. some apps know how to talk to all the major sound daemons (xmms) and some don't (mp3blaster). there are ways around this, (like using esddsp) but it doesn't always work (quake3 doesn't like esddsp). james was suggesting to kill arts and see if your sound is any better. this effectively kills the middleman -- your audio program will interact directly with the sound hardware instead of needing to interact with another user land program which in turn will interact with the audio hardware. so: 1. kill arts (i don't know how to do this because i know nothing about arts. presumably killall -9 artd will work). 2. play a sound. see if it helps. another thing you may want to try is to make sure your mixer settings are about 50% - 75% of their maximum setting using a mixer program like xmix, cam, or nmixer. adjust your speakers appropriately. see if that helps. also, if you have them, try a different set of speakers. if your speakers are really old, the cones might be brittle or even cracked which can cause crackling. also, wiggle your wires. loose audio connections can also cause crackling. pete -- Every theory is killed sooner or later, but if the theory has good in it, that good is embodied and continued in the next theory. -- Albert Einstein GPG Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [xine-user] Cracking noise playing Audio CDs on kaffeine/xine
On Mon 30 May 05, 6:19 PM, Paulo M C Aragão [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Hi Peter, On Mon, May 30, 2005 at 04:56:13PM -0400, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: james was suggesting to kill arts and see if your sound is any better. this effectively kills the middleman -- your audio program will interact directly with the sound hardware instead of needing to interact with another user land program which in turn will interact with the audio hardware. so: First of all, thank you so much for taking the time for such a detailed and patient explanation. It really set the ground clear for me. my pleasure! I killed arts (actually disabled Sound System at KDE's Control Center, but made sure the process wasn't really running) and tried to play an audio CD again: With kaffeine/xine the same cracking/skipping sound while playing With kscd played perfectly So, excluded sound daemon, hardware and mixer, would be there be anything else to look into ? Not really, but we can try to grasp at straws. Try this: 1. Open kaffeine/xine and start playing something. 2. Open a mixer program. Make sure the settings are not cranked up while kaffeine is playing. Does kaffeine have some kind of audio output plugin? Perhaps an audio output thing (like using libsdl or native alsa for audio, kinda like how mplayer does it). Does kaffeine still crackle if you renice -20 it? Sorry, I didn't realize that an app actually worked OK. That makes it much harder. These suggestions are all grasping at straws, so please don't laugh. :) Pete -- Every theory is killed sooner or later, but if the theory has good in it, that good is embodied and continued in the next theory. -- Albert Einstein GPG Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [xine-user] Cracking noise playing Audio CDs on kaffeine/xine
On Mon 30 May 05, 7:42 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Mon, May 30, 2005 at 06:11:54PM -0400, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: Try this: 1. Open kaffeine/xine and start playing something. 2. Open a mixer program. Make sure the settings are not cranked up while kaffeine is playing. Thanks for the persistence ! No problem! After I replied to your 1st e-mail, I realized that I was using OSS, driver sb. I then installed alsa-modules for my kernel (2.4.27.2-686) and driver snd-sb8 loaded Ok. Now I can still play audio CDs with kscd, but kaffeine/xine spit the message: Audio output unavailable. Device is busy I can still play internet audio streams with kaffeine/xine but not audio CDs. Killed kscd, but kaffeine/xine spits the same message when I try to play audio CDs. I'm not quite sure which device is busy. I must be missing something about alsa setup. I just installed the alsa packages and loaded the driver manually with: Perfect application for strace. Use: strace -o LOG.txt kaffeine Wait until you see kaffeine issue device is busy and then kill kaffeine. Load up the file LOG.txt with an editor. Do a search for device is busy. There should be an open() statement somewhere before the error message is printed. Probably not too far away, in fact. That should tell you not only what device file kaffeine attempted to open, but also why it couldn't open it. If you've never used strace, this is a good way to learn. This is practically what strace was invented for. ;) Pete -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: /etc/modules comment is wrong
On Sat 21 May 05, 8:30 AM, Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Sat, May 21, 2005 at 01:53:28PM +0200, David Jardine wrote: On Sat, May 21, 2005 at 03:25:21AM +0200, Jacobo221 wrote: In Debian Sarge, in /etc/modules out-of-the-box, the comments say that nything after '#' is ingored. But this is wrong. Only lines which BEGIN with '#' are ignored. This should be changed. Hmm. 'Comments begin with a #, and everything on the line after them are ignored', says mine. Yes, but in some languages the start the comment here string (for instance //) can come at any point in the line, say after an executed statement. Jacobo is saying that the # only works a the beginning of a line. is that really true? you mean I can't have a line in /etc/modules that looks like: lego# device driver for the lego mindstorms USB tower that's too bad if it's true. pete -- Every theory is killed sooner or later, but if the theory has good in it, that good is embodied and continued in the next theory. -- Albert Einstein GPG Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is 64MB enough?
On Sat 21 May 05, 8:37 AM, Johan Kullstam [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: John Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thanks but the old clunker's motherboard is not expandable to 256M :-( Star/Open-Office is not going to be pleasant. TeX, on the other hand, will run like a treat. TeX always runs like a treat. But I have to disagree with OO. It's always slow. But I don't think it'll be particularly slower at 64MB as long as the system isn't loaded down (but perhaps that's what you meant). in that case you'd need more memory. 256MB is cheap these days. As you know, It's not as cheap if you need 72-pin EDO SIMMs memory. Not all memory is cheap, as I unfortunately recently learned. Ironically, old DIMMs --- I'm talking about the slow single density PC100 sticks you'd put in a Pentium II computer --- are more expensive than the DDR memory you'd put into a modern Athlon system. The reason, I've read, is that it takes more silicon wafer surface material to generate single density DIMMs. Pete -- Every theory is killed sooner or later, but if the theory has good in it, that good is embodied and continued in the next theory. -- Albert Einstein GPG Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mouse clicks and virtual console acting wierd
I've never seen this before... On a new install, when I left click the mouse on the console, I see: middle clicking gives: E EEE right clicking gives: The mouse otherwise works good on the console. It works perfectly in X. I've never seen this before. Why does mouse clicking produce these characters (cut and paste in the console doesn't work at all). Thanks, Pete -- Every theory is killed sooner or later, but if the theory has good in it, that good is embodied and continued in the next theory. -- Albert Einstein GPG Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mouse clicks and virtual console acting wierd
On Fri 20 May 05, 10:48 AM, Peter Jay Salzman [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I've never seen this before... On a new install, when I left click the mouse on the console, I see: middle clicking gives: E EEE right clicking gives: The mouse otherwise works good on the console. It works perfectly in X. I've never seen this before. Why does mouse clicking produce these characters (cut and paste in the console doesn't work at all). Thanks, Pete I built my own kernel instead of using the Debian stock kernel and the problem went away. Nevermind! :) Pete -- Every theory is killed sooner or later, but if the theory has good in it, that good is embodied and continued in the next theory. -- Albert Einstein GPG Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
emergency: font problems causing gv to crash
Hi all, My PhD dissertation is due in a few weeks and I'm having some kind of problem with fonts that's preventing me from viewing my thesis. This is a new computer (my old one died at the *worst* possible moment. Luckily, I'm *really* good about backing everything up), so it's a fresh Debian/testing installation and I'm trying to iron out bugs as quickly as possible so I can get back to writing. I normally view my thesis using gv, but gv segfaults: $ gv dissertation.ps Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion Warning: Unable to load any usable fontset Segmentation fault (core dumped) xdvi also fails to run: $ xdvi dissertation.dvi X Error of failed request: BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation) Major opcode of failed request: 45 (X_OpenFont) Value in failed request: 0xe4 Serial number of failed request: 27 Current serial number in output stream: 28 xfontsel also seems to have a problem: FreeType: couldn't open face /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType/ds=y:VeraMono.ttf: 1 On the console behind X, this error message is printed: FreeType: couldn't open face /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType/ds=y:VeraMono.ttf: 1 But this doesn't look like fatal error to me. I really need to get writing ASAP. Can someone please help? Thanks, Peter -- Every theory is killed sooner or later, but if the theory has good in it, that good is embodied and continued in the next theory. -- Albert Einstein GPG Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
remote printing isn't working - lpd not listening
Hi all, Just installed Debian on my new workstation, satan. The workstation has an HP LaserJet 6MP that I'd like to share with other Linux computers on my home network. I use lpd, not lprng. I'm pretty sure /etc/printcap is set up correctly on satan and the remote hosts. I'm pretty sure that /etc/hosts.lpd is set up correctly on satan. However, on other computers in the house: lucifer# lpq connection to 192.168.0.2 is down They can't seem to connect to lpd on satan. Supposedly, lpd uses port 515 to accept incoming print jobs. However, there doesn't appear to be anything listening to that port: [EMAIL PROTECTED] telnet localhost 515 Trying 127.0.0.1... telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused lucifer# telnet satan 515 Trying 192.168.0.2... telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused But then again, on Debian, lpd is shipped running the -s option which is described as preventing lpd from listening to tcp ports, so I'm not exactly sure how lpd accepts incoming remote jobs... 1. How exactly does lpd accept incoming remote print jobs if its configured with -s by default? 2. Should I be able to telnet to port 515 on a host that is correctly configured to accept incoming remote print jobs? 3. If lpd is supposed to bind to port 515, can anyone think of a reason why it's not? Any help appreciated! Thanks! Pete -- Every theory is killed sooner or later, but if the theory has good in it, that good is embodied and continued in the next theory. -- Albert Einstein GPG Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Need lilo help - won't boot Win2k
Hi all, I have a triple boot system with three drives: * /dev/hda - 80 GB PATA drive with Debian (root is /dev/hda5) * /dev/hde - 250 GB SATA drive with Win2k (root is /dev/hde1) * /dev/hdg - 200 GB SATA drive with Debian (root is /dev/hdg6) lilo can boot my two Debian drives. When I try to boot into Win2k, a couple of extended ASCII characters (symbols like yen and cents) get printed, but nothing else happens. Win2k doesn't boot. Using fdisk, I've made sure that the 3 partitions on hde exist, hold the files they're supposed to hold, and hde1 (which holds the actual MS OS) is marked bootable. The motherboard is an Abit NF7-S, and I'm using the sata_sil module, and other than this, have had no problems with it. SATA on Linux has been great. My BIOS is set to boot off of HDD-0. There's an option to boot off the SATA drives though. As a last note, I tried Grub, and it didn't boot Win2k either. When I chose Win2k from the Grub menu, I was dumped into the Grub bash-like console and didn't go any further (I'm reasonably experienced with lilo, but a Grub newbie). My lilo.conf follows, everything looks fine with it. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks! Pete # compact boot=/dev/hda lba32 install=/boot/boot.b map=/boot/map prompt delay=3 timeout=3 vga=normal image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.7 root=/dev/hdg6 label=bleedinglinux read-only # Debian installed kernel image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.26-1-386 root=/dev/hdg6 label=newlinux initrd=/boot/initrd.img-2.4.26-1-386 read-only image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.7 root=/dev/hda5 label=pata_bleeding read-only # Debian installed kernel image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.26-1-386 root=/dev/hda5 label=pata_new initrd=/boot/initrd.img-2.4.26-1-386 read-only other=/dev/hde1 label=win2k -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Need lilo help - won't boot Win2k
On Tue 10 Aug 04, 10:41 PM, John Summerfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Peter Jay Salzman wrote: Hi all, I have a triple boot system with three drives: * /dev/hda - 80 GB PATA drive with Debian (root is /dev/hda5) * /dev/hde - 250 GB SATA drive with Win2k (root is /dev/hde1) * /dev/hdg - 200 GB SATA drive with Debian (root is /dev/hdg6) lilo can boot my two Debian drives. When I try to boot into Win2k, a couple of extended ASCII characters (symbols like yen and cents) get printed, but nothing else happens. Win2k doesn't boot. Using fdisk, I've made sure that the 3 partitions on hde exist, hold the files they're supposed to hold, and hde1 (which holds the actual MS OS) is marked bootable. The motherboard is an Abit NF7-S, and I'm using the sata_sil module, and other than this, have had no problems with it. SATA on Linux has been great. My BIOS is set to boot off of HDD-0. There's an option to boot off the SATA drives though. As a last note, I tried Grub, and it didn't boot Win2k either. When I chose Win2k from the Grub menu, I was dumped into the Grub bash-like console and didn't go any further (I'm reasonably experienced with lilo, but a Grub newbie). My lilo.conf follows, everything looks fine with it. Any help would be greatly appreciated! What was the drive configuration when you _installed_ w2k? When Win2k was installed on hde, the system looked like: hde (SATA): empty hdg (SATA): empty In other words, the PATA drive wasn't in the sytem. I added that after the Win2k install. BTW, when I change the BIOS boot order from: boot off HDD-0 to boot off SATA the sytem boots right into Win2k, and the boot looks healthy. Thanks! Pete -- Make everything as simple as possible, but no simpler. -- Albert Einstein GPG Instructions: http://www.dirac.org/linux/gpg GPG Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Need lilo help - won't boot Win2k
On Tue 10 Aug 04, 8:22 PM, P V Mathew [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Peter Jay Salzman wrote: Hi all, I have a triple boot system with three drives: * /dev/hda - 80 GB PATA drive with Debian (root is /dev/hda5) * /dev/hde - 250 GB SATA drive with Win2k (root is /dev/hde1) * /dev/hdg - 200 GB SATA drive with Debian (root is /dev/hdg6) I am not sure of this, but can windows boot from something other than than the first partition of the first hard drive? p v mathew I've heard this too, but I don't really know what it means (or whether it's even true). For instance, on a system with SCSI and PATA, how do you define first drive? Or in my case, a system with PATA and SATA, how do you define the first drive? Linux assigns drive letters like a, e, and g for convenience, but the PATA and SATA drives are on different buses, so in what sense is one first? But I've always heard this. I would like to know whether it's true once and for all, and what first drive means in that context. It would REALLY be nice if MS Windows printed something like: I'm sorry, but I can't boot because you didn't make the drive that I live on the primary master or something! :-) Pete -- Make everything as simple as possible, but no simpler. -- Albert Einstein GPG Instructions: http://www.dirac.org/linux/gpg GPG Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Need lilo help - won't boot Win2k
Hi Greg, I read the Grub documentation to figure out what your map commands do. It was very well written! My system now boots all operating systems, and thanks to you, I learned a lot about Grub in the process. Huzzah! Thank you so much!!!:-) Pete On Tue 10 Aug 04, 10:54 AM, Greg Folkert [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Tue, 2004-08-10 at 10:20, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: Hi all, I have a triple boot system with three drives: * /dev/hda - 80 GB PATA drive with Debian (root is /dev/hda5) * /dev/hde - 250 GB SATA drive with Win2k (root is /dev/hde1) * /dev/hdg - 200 GB SATA drive with Debian (root is /dev/hdg6) # compact boot=/dev/hda lba32 install=/boot/boot.b map=/boot/map prompt delay=3 timeout=3 vga=normal image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.7 root=/dev/hdg6 label=bleedinglinux read-only # Debian installed kernel image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.26-1-386 root=/dev/hdg6 label=newlinux initrd=/boot/initrd.img-2.4.26-1-386 read-only image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.7 root=/dev/hda5 label=pata_bleeding read-only # Debian installed kernel image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.26-1-386 root=/dev/hda5 label=pata_new initrd=/boot/initrd.img-2.4.26-1-386 read-only other=/dev/hde1 label=win2k I use grub for the exact reasons you point out. You *CAN* recover grub from a bad setup, without resorting to a boot disk. here is a good example of what I have found that works for me, with grub (curses be that LILO, a)(wait it isn't talk like a pirate day... oops). These say WinXP, but are literally the same setup for W2K. Either one of these works for me: title WinXP hd0-hd1+hd1 map (hd0) (hd1) map (hd1) (hd0) rootnoverify (hd1,0) makeactive chainloader +1 title WinXP 0x80-0x81+hd1 map (0x81) (0x80) map (0x80) (0x81) rootnoverify (hd1,0) makeactive chainloader +1 Of course, now that we are getting into grub proper now, I suggest that you do the Right Thing(tm). I apt-get install grub. Then I grub-install /dev/hda. I then make sure no /boot/grub/menu.lst exists, then run update-grub. Then add the WinXP thingers at the end of the menu.lst. Read through the menu.lst, and be amazed. -- greg, [EMAIL PROTECTED] The technology that is Stronger, better, faster: Linux -- Make everything as simple as possible, but no simpler. -- Albert Einstein GPG Instructions: http://www.dirac.org/linux/gpg GPG Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Help: My 'e' and 'c' keys no longer work!
Dear all, My c and e keys stopped working in xterms (rxvt, etc) on X. They work correctly on the console, so it's not a hw issue. The only things of note that happened recently are: 1. My system froze this morning. Required a reboot and fsck. No bad error messages, just the usual zero dtime stuff. I looked for xkb related files in all my lost+found directories, but didn't find anything. 2. I apt-get upgraded today. Can't remember what got upgraded last, but I don't think it was X related. I tried restarting X, then tried shutting the machine, wiggling the PS/2 connector and restarting. No dice. However, xfree86 IS receiving events for these keys. The output of xev for e is shown below (including the output for r to compare it with it with a working key): KeyRelease event, serial 25, synthetic NO, window 0xc1, root 0x58, subw 0xc2, time 368034, (45,50), root:(49,408), state 0x0, keycode 26 (keysym 0x0, NoSymbol), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 bytes: KeyPress event, serial 25, synthetic NO, window 0xc1, root 0x58, subw 0xc2, time 368342, (45,50), root:(49,408), state 0x0, keycode 27 (keysym 0x72, r), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 1 bytes: r so SOMETHING is happening. I killed X and started it again as a different user. The e and c keys still didn't work. So whatever happened is global for all users. I also tried reinstalling all packages that have a file named xkb: apt-get install --reinstall xlibs xlibs-static-pic xbase-clients libx11-6 xlibs-static-dev but still no dice. The only keyboard type warning I get when running startx is: The XKEYBOARD keymap compiler (xkbcomp) reports: Error:No Symbols named microsoft in the include file pc/us Exiting Abandoning symbols file default Errors from xkbcomp are not fatal to the X server The keyboard stanza of my XF86Config file is: Section InputDevice Identifier Generic Keyboard Driver keyboard Option CoreKeyboard Option XkbRules xfree86 Option XkbModel pc104 Option XkbLayout us Option XkbVariant microsoft EndSection But I don't think this has anything to do with the e and c keys not working in X. Lastly, I use the enlightenment wm. I tried running twm instead, but 'e' and 'c' still don't work, so it's not a wm issue. I'm completely and utterly out of ideas. The X keyboard is an area of Linux I know almost nothing about. Can some kind soul please please please help me figure this out? Thanks! Pete -- In theory, theory and practise are the same. In practise, they aren't. GPG Instructions: http://www.dirac.org/linux/gpg GPG Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help: My 'e' and 'c' keys no longer work!
On Sun 18 Jul 04, 12:56 AM, René Seindal [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Peter Jay Salzman wrote: Dear all, My c and e keys stopped working in xterms (rxvt, etc) on X. They work correctly on the console, so it's not a hw issue. The only things of note that happened recently are: Well, you're not alone. I've had the very same problem, but it went away, and I didn't manage to figure out what went wrong. I experimented with the keyboard layout preferences in gnome, and at some point it went away. You can fix it from an xterm with setxkblayout XX where the x'es should be substituted with the layout you want. In my case it is 'dk'. Too bad there's an 'e' in the command, but do an ls and paste an 'e' :-) FWIW, it is not just you. THANK YOU!!! By the way, I didn't have setxkblayout on my system, but using dpkg -S to look for commands of similar name, I found setxkbmap. This fixed my problem: $ setxkbmap us BTW, I update my machine (Debian/testing) a couple of times a day, so I can pretty much pinpoint this problem starting this morning. Can you tell me which branch of Debian you're using and when the problem started for you? Looking at my /usr/share/doc directory, it appears that both xlibs and xbase-clients DID get updated today. So I'm fairly sure the problem was the result of some kind of misconfiguration that was pulled onto the machine via package update. Again, thank you SO much. You just took a HUGE load off my mind! Pete -- In theory, theory and practise are the same. In practise, they aren't. GPG Instructions: http://www.dirac.org/linux/gpg GPG Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OT] (possibly): libglide3 / libGL errors
Dear all, Not sure if this is a problem with Debian packages or my own programming blunders. Please excuse my off-topic post in case this turns out to be my errors. I've been playing with GLUT and OpenGL. I get the following run-time error message: libGL error: can't find Glide library, dlopen(libglide3-v5.so) and dlopen(libglide3.so) both failed. libGL error: dlerror() message: /usr/lib/libglide3.so: undefined symbol: _trisetup_Default_win_nocull_valid these are two different issues, and both are perplexing. The first error is odd because libglide3.so exists (it's not a dangling symlink) in /usr/lib. Man ld.so says /usr/lib is automatically searched by dlopen() without needing an entry in /etc/ld.so.conf. So how the heck isn't dlopen() finding it? I'm not sure what to do about the second error. It sounds like there might be a missing dependency, but I've checked. Can this be a problem with the libglide3-dev package? The hardware is a Voodoo 5 on Sarge. If I try to link my program statically, all hell breaks loose with errors that look like undefined reference to `XInternAtom' This is the makefile showing how I'm building the application: CC = colorgcc CFLAGS = -g -W -Wall -std=c99 SRCS= $(wildcard *.c) OBJS= $(patsubst %.c, %.o, $(SRCS)) PROGS = $(patsubst %.c, %, $(SRCS)) LDLIBS = -lglut all: $(PROGS) clean: $(RM) $(PROGS) $(OBJS) I've scratched my head on this for at least an hour. Any help greatly appreciated! Thanks! Pete -- GPG Instructions: http://www.dirac.org/linux/gpg GPG Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Spamassassin tests help please
dude -- you are SO ready for the open relay database. you sound pretty harried. that's where i was a few months ago. not to sound overly dramatic, but www.ordb.org changed my life. also, i've been compiling a list of networks that send spam from asian countries like china and korea. when i get 3 pieces of spam from the same network, and my letters of complaint go unanswered, i block the entire network using tcpwrappers. my /etc/hosts.deny contains a vast number of chinese and korean networks. you can manage exim connections with tcpwrappers by simply running exim as: smtp stream tcp nowait mail /usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/exim -bs in inetd.conf. my 3 pronged approach to spam is: 1. using ordb.org 2. running exim from tcpwrappers and dumping IP's into /ect/hosts.deny 3. spamcop how effective is this? i was getting *upwards* of 40 pieces of spam per day. today i got simply 4 pieces of spam, and this is what i would call a heavy spam day. pete begin Patrick Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi all, I have given up on using my .forward as a spam filter because I've now gone up to over 40 spam pieces a day and its a pain to keep adding conditions on each .forward on each account. Just to make clear, my particular desire to stop stuff from Korean and Taiwan is that I speak neither Korean nor Chinese. I wonder if anyone can help with these tests: 1. I am on numerous Korean spam lists. So I want to exclude all email with Korean charsets. How do I set $h_Content-Type: contains ks_c_5601-1987 to score 20? 2. I get a lot of stuff from Taiwan. Is it poossible to simply blacklist all mail relayed from ISPs with .tw tld? 3. How can I blacklist specific names? For example, esavingszone send me two messages every day and I want them automatically blocked. But they use differing domain nemaes so I want to block [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] and every other [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4. The ISP that uses hanmail.net and daum.net is the single worst offender. Can I block all mail relayed theough these domains? Thanks in advance, Patrick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Downgrade ...
i seem to recall someone saying on this list that it's not possible to downgrade, but that doesn't sound right to me. change unstable to testing in /etc/apt/sources.list (or sid to woody), do a dselect update. then do an apt-get dist-upgrade. apt will print out what it thinks you want it to do. if you don't like what you see, you can always back off by changing testing back to unstable in sources.list and redo dselect update. note: dselect update implies apt-get update, but not the other way around. pete begin STOJICEVIC Edi EXPSIA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, I would like to downgrade my Sid to Woody but I dont know how to do it exactly... I know that we can force apt to upgrade with one version (stable/testing/unstable) but I dont remember what file I need to configure ? Also I didnt do an apt-get update since 2 weeks ago ... What will happen if I change my source.list from Sid to Woody ? Will it be okay ? E. This message and any attachments (the message) are confidential and intended solely for the addressees. Any unauthorised use or dissemination is prohibited. E-mails are susceptible to alteration. Neither SOCIETE GENERALE nor any of its subsidiaries or affiliates shall be liable for the message if altered, changed or falsified. these types of sigs always crack me up... like, who do i contact for permission to forward this email to my cousin?:) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Configuring a new system that shipped w/ Debian?
begin Grant Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wed, Apr 24, 2002 at 03:32:32PM -0700, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: begin Grant Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wed, Apr 24, 2002 at 05:08:54PM -0500, Grant Edwards wrote: Doing a dpkg --configure pkgname won't work because the packages have already been configured. I just stumbled across dpkg-reconfigure (a mention of dpkg-reconfigure on the dpkg man page might be a good idea). Now, if only there was some way to figure out what package owned a particular file... i wonder which package owns /bin/ls? let me see... % dpkg -S /bin/ls fileutils: /bin/ls ahh. it looks like fileutils owns /bin/ls!:) If I were worried about configuring the contents of /bin/ls, I'd be set. :) # dpkg -S /etc/network/interfaces dpkg: /etc/network/interfaces not found. # dpkg -S /etc/resolv.conf dpkg: /etc/resolv.conf not found. # dpkg -S /etc/hosts dpkg: /etc/hosts not found. # dpkg -S /etc/hostname dpkg: /etc/hostname not found. # dpkg -S /etc/passwd dpkg: /etc/passwd not found. that seems to indicate that these files aren't owned by any package. something like /etc/hostname is no more owned by a package than, say, /etc is. i'm not sure *how* they get on the system, but my guess is that it's simply part of the install process, as opposed to the package installation process which occurs after the base system is installed. pure conjecture, but it sounds right! :) pete -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Configuring a new system that shipped w/ Debian?
begin Grant Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thu, Apr 25, 2002 at 09:18:30AM -0700, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: ahh. it looks like fileutils owns /bin/ls!:) If I were worried about configuring the contents of /bin/ls, I'd be set. :) # dpkg -S /etc/network/interfaces dpkg: /etc/network/interfaces not found. # dpkg -S /etc/resolv.conf dpkg: /etc/resolv.conf not found. # dpkg -S /etc/hosts dpkg: /etc/hosts not found. # dpkg -S /etc/hostname dpkg: /etc/hostname not found. # dpkg -S /etc/passwd dpkg: /etc/passwd not found. that seems to indicate that these files aren't owned by any package. something like /etc/hostname is no more owned by a package than, say, /etc is. I assumed that they were put there by the configure stage of some package, and that I need to run dpkg-reconfigure on the right package. as i understand it (and this much i'm fairly sure of) each package file has a list of directories it needs to install to. in the installation process of that package, if the directory doesn't exist, the directory is made. Perhaps not -- maybe there is no built-in way to reconfigure a Debian system. whoa there, fella. what exactly do you mean reconfigure? every time you change a hostname or a password, you're, in a sense, reconfiguring the system. in fact, there's dpkg-reconfigure as you pointed out, which reconfigures packages. do you really mean no way to generate the base filesystem? what exactly happened? what are you trying to do? short of rm -rf'ing /var/lib/dpkg (and not having a backup), i kind of doubt there's any problem debian can't handle. pete i'm not sure *how* they get on the system, but my guess is that it's simply part of the install process, as opposed to the package installation process which occurs after the base system is installed. Could be. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: jigdo question
hi haroldo, thank you for answering my question! begin Haroldo Stenger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Don't rely on this file size's change. It doesn't have any relation with download progress, neither with completeness-to-the-moment of the image itself. The image will be complete when jigdo tells you that. it would've been nice for the docs to mention this! I don't understand why the Debian community seems to ignore all jigdo-related questions. Jigdo is being advertised in the website, but when one asks about a doubt on the mailing-lists, or in the #debian irc channel, these questions don't receive any attention at all. i noticed this -- before posting to debian-user, i looked through the archives of debian-user and debian-cd. it was /very/ difficult to find any question which got a reply. to be frank, i wasn't expecting an answer. i guess i got lucky. thank you! :) I wonder what's happening here. Is it that people don't rely on Jigdo yet to download, ignoring the website's note on the convenience of using Jigdo over full CD image downloading? Is it that there isn't enough Jigdo knowledge yet? Is it just my own biased perception? i suspect people aren't use jigdo yet. i'm the first person to try it from our user group, and we have some pretty hard core debian fans in the group. the connection to hungry blows big chunks. it took almost 2 days to download just binary-1. after reading the debian website, i got sold on jigdo. but i have the oddest feeling that very few people are actually using it. Not trying to be rude, just to sort of shake the issue in order to obtain some feedback! Best regards, Haroldo. thanks for the words of confidence! one last question -- if we can't judge the file size of the .tmp file, is there any way of gauging how far along the download i'm at? jigdo's been doing its thing for nearly 12 hours. i have no concept of whether i'm at the 9% completed mark or the 99% completed mark. do you know of any way to tell? at least with binary images you have some idea of an estimated time to completion. thanks! pete ps- btw, where is uy? i don't recall seeing it before. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: jigdo question
begin Haroldo Stenger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peter Jay Salzman wrote: begin Haroldo Stenger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Don't rely on this file size's change. It doesn't have any relation with download progress, neither with completeness-to-the-moment of the image itself. The image will be complete when jigdo tells you that. it would've been nice for the docs to mention this! Yes, I think we could contibute some changes to the docs. yes, once i get some of this figured out better, i plan on sending some diffs. to be honest, when it started to work i was really surprised. i was just dicking around. i can't even remember what i did. lol!! i suspect people aren't use jigdo yet. i'm the first person to try it from our user group, and we have some pretty hard core debian fans in the group. Yes, this must be the case. It happens that many people are long time Debian users, and don't need to make fresh full CD images of woody, they just use apt-get and turn their systems into full blown woody/sid ones. Just the ones of us who need to install in many computers and haven't bought images somewhere *need* jigdo. we (the linux users' group of davis) need the woody images. we hold monthly installfests, but don't have net connections where the IF's take place. often we get very new laptops with some wierd video chipset which is totally unsupported by X 3.*. either we install redhat/mandrake/suse or we need woody. roughly 1/4 of us use debian, including me. we really dislike working on any system other than debian. the other distros don't make sense to us for various reasons. even small stupid things -- like searching 15 minutes for an rpm until realizing that redhat rpm's can contain uppercase letters. every so often, i waste 10 minutes of my life before remembering redhat has XFree86.rpm rather than xfree86.rpm. bleah. but for these laptops, potato is simply unsuitable. Let's continue in touch Uruguay (uy) is a country with coasts to the Atlantic Ocean and the R?o de la Plata, east Argentina, and south Brazil. We have a very active Linux community here, and some of us are Debian users. Thanks for asking! cool. i love the fact that people can be friends beyond political and cultural boundaries. if you forget about the spam and commercialism, the internet is a wonderful place. :)yes, let's keep in touch. you sound like a very cool guy! oops -- just noticed that the woody download just finished. some files didn't download. off to investigate... :) pete -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: jigdo question
begin curtis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just as this issue was being brought up I was using jigdo for the first time. Now, I'm just wondering what is the next step. Everything seems to have finished perfectly and I find that I have the following files: woody-i386-8.raw.template woody-i386-8.raw.jigdo woody-i386-8.raw jigdo-file-cache.db Am i to understand that the woody-i386-8.raw is the image file and all that I need to put on a CD in order to make a bootable woody installation? i believe so. i was able to mount this image on the loopback device: [EMAIL PROTECTED] su Password: satan# mount -o loop woody-i386-2.raw.tmp /mnt/other/ satan# ls /mnt/other/ README.html README.mirrors.txt README.txt boot/dists/ pics/ README.mirrors.html README.non-US TRANS.TBL debian@ md5sum.txt pool/ i'm pretty sure it's an ISO image. pete -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: jigdo question
for what it's worth, i've written up my experience with jigdo: http://www.dirac.org/linux/debian/jigdo/ note that i haven't been successful -- at least, i don't think so. it creates an ISO image which i can burn, but during the download process, i got some messages like: --11:11:00-- ftp://ftp.fsn.hu/pub/debian-superseded/_uPSKNHm3q3gFry50rhCkw = `_uPSKNHm3q3gFry50rhCkw' Resolving ftp.fsn.hu... done. Connecting to ftp.fsn.hu[195.228.253.129]:21... connected. Logging in as anonymous ... Logged in! == SYST ... done.== PWD ... done. == TYPE I ... done. == CWD /pub/debian-superseded ... done. == PASV ... done.== RETR _uPSKNHm3q3gFry50rhCkw ... No such file `_uPSKNHm3q3gFry50rhCkw'. (repeat a bunch of times) - Aaargh - not all files could be downloaded. This should not happen! Depending on the problem, it may help to restart the download. Also, you could try changing to another Debian or Non-US server, in case the one you used was not updated recently. However, if all the files downloaded without errors and you still get this message, it means that the files changed on the server. For the moment, in the case of Debian CD images the only solution when that happens is to revert to rsync. Press Return to restart. it looks like jigdo is interpreting md5sums as filenames. the woody-i386-2.raw.tmp file is 659141240 bytes large, so something must have downloaded correctly. the /tmp directory got deleted, and i take this to mean the download ended in some normal, sane sense. wahhh. i really want this to work! :-( pete -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: jigdo question
ok, jigdo just worked for me. i think the problem was that i had downloaded the .jigdo files the previous night, then used them the next morning. the files get generated nightly, and woody gets updated every day. i'm guessing that if the .jigdo file doesn't match what's on the woody mirror, jigdo freaks out. it starting interpreting md5sums as file names(!). but jeez -- the download was only a few hours for me, as opposed to over a day for an ISO download. anyone who downloads the woody ISO rather than using jigdo is, well, nuts. this is a *vast* improvement over cd-image. i think it still needs a little development, but we have a good thing going on. when jigdo becomes stable, it'll be an awesome, awesome tool. woo hoo! pete -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Configuring a new system that shipped w/ Debian?
begin Grant Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wed, Apr 24, 2002 at 05:08:54PM -0500, Grant Edwards wrote: Doing a dpkg --configure pkgname won't work because the packages have already been configured. I just stumbled across dpkg-reconfigure (a mention of dpkg-reconfigure on the dpkg man page might be a good idea). Now, if only there was some way to figure out what package owned a particular file... i wonder which package owns /bin/ls? let me see... % dpkg -S /bin/ls fileutils: /bin/ls ahh. it looks like fileutils owns /bin/ls!:) i have a debian package tutorial that i'm writing. it's incomplete, but is still very useful: http://www.dirac.org/linux/debian pete -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: printing problems
begin dman [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wed, Apr 24, 2002 at 03:10:47PM -0700, David Smead wrote: | | I'm apparently missing a driver. | | knuth:~# lpq ... | Status: cannot open '/dev/lp0' - 'No such device' | - | | knuth:~# ls -l /dev/lp0 | crw-rw1 root lp 6, 0 Jun 13 2001 /dev/lp0 This is meaningless. (well, all it means is you have an inode named lp0. You've got lots of inodes in /dev that you don't have hardware for) meaningless? the major and minor numbers are correct. the kernel certainly knows what major number 6 is. the parport driver (if present) knows what minor number 0 is. doesn't matter what you call the *file*. it's the major and minor numbers which matter. If you use devfs this becomes meaningful (the file won't exist unless the device and driver do). maybe. maybe not. depends on how devfsd is configured, doesn't it? p -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
jigdo question
hi all, i'm using jigdo to download woody for the first time. there's a directory ./tmp which is holding files which get flushed every so often. right now it holds: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ls tmp ccmalloc_0.3.8-1_i386.deb psutils_1.17-15_i386.deb libmailtools-perl_1.42-2_all.deb svgalibg1_1.4.3-7_i386.deb wating a bit, now it holds: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ls tmp/ ch-boot-floppy-techinfo.ca.html x-ttcidfont-conf_11_all.deb so the files are getting flushed somewhere. presumably, jigdo is making a cd image somewhere. there's a file called woody-i386-1.raw.tmp in the same directory as tmp, but it's size hasn't changed in awhile, so i'm not sure this is it. does anyone know what the default location is for jigdo-lite to place the woody cd images? pete -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OT] what ports do quake3 use?
hi there, i want to run a quake3 server from behind a firewall. what ports do i need to open up and forward in order to run a quake 3 server? pete
question about building a deb package
dear all, in the debian new maintainer's guide: chapter 3: Note that if your program uses GNU automake and/or autoconf, meaning the source includes Makefile.am and/or Makefile.in files, respectively, you will need to modify those files. chapter 3, section 3.1: Basically, you need to make the program install in debian/tmp, but behave correctly when placed in the root directory, ie when installed from the .deb package. With programs using GNU autoconf, this will be quite easy, because dh_make will set up commands for doing that automatically. these two statements seem contradictory. to get the program to install in debian/tmp, can dh_make automatically do this for you when the upstream package uses autoconf or not? the first paragraph definitely says no--you need to modify the Makefile.am and Makefile.in files yourself. the second paragraph seems to suggest that dh_make does this for you. which paragraph is correct? also, section 5.4 (on man pages) isn't very clear. the author simply says he wrote a manpage, but doesn't say what he had to do to get the manpage in the package. did he simply replace debian/manpage.1.ex by what he wrote? or did he have to run dh_installman? one of the problems i've run into is that the package i'm trying to debianize comes with a manpage that gets installed by the upstream make process. lintian didn't seem to recognize this and reported that the binary has no manpage in my deb package. what is the procedure when the upstream source comes with its own man page that gets installed during the make process? thanks, pete -- The mathematics [of physics] has become ever more abstract, rather than more complicated. The mind of God appears to be abstract but not complicated. He also appears to like group theory. -- Tony Zee's `Fearful Symmetry' PGP Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D
Re: this debconf stuff is crazy!
begin Shaya Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sun, 2002-01-06 at 19:36, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: begin Justin R. Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thus spake Peter Jay Salzman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): ok, my XF86Config-4 is all wrong now. i need to edit this file. if we're not supposed to edit between the BEGIN DEBCONF and END DEBCONF, how the hell am i supposed to get a working XFree86 again? is there a tool that allows us to change this file? Try 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86'. just to be very clear on the issue, this isn't acceptable to me. i have very special mode timings and options that i use that aren't available if i reconfigure the package using dpkg. this stuff needs to be put in by hand. i like the chattr idea. just when you thought debian does the Right Thing, they start fscking up by automating somthing which really doesn't require automating... (debian is still the best. just slightly less better). what were you doing during the upgrade of the package? It clearly asked me if I wanted debconf to configure it. It even keeps a backup of the original, if you were doing it by hand and accidently said yes. sheesh. no shit. but that's really not the point. the point is there should've been some kind of message saying something to the effect of: note: if you let debconf take over your config file, you won't be able to modify the config file yourself. you give up all rights to tweak it yourself by hand i wouldn't believe that *debian* would do this. it's just bad medicine. yast, yes. linuxconf, yes. debian? no. recovering was no big deal. like you pointed out, it saved a copy of the old file. but that's like congratulating someone for taking a shit in toilet. you'd *expect* it to go into the toilet. if a copy weren't saved, then that would be an excellent reason to switch to another distribution. immediately. so i don't think giving it a pat on the back for backing up the original is appropriate here. i'm not saying it sucks completely. the whole ordeal was resolved in under a minute after i realized what i got myself into. i'm just saying i was expecting better. perhaps a better solution would've been something like what we do with modules.conf. let the distribution take it over, but give the user the opportunity to modify it at will. i LIKE what debian does with modules.conf. it's one of the most intelligent solutions iv'e seen to automation vs control. peter -- PGP Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D PGP Public Key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
this debconf stuff is crazy!
after upgrading woody today, my XF86Config-4 file looks like: ### BEGIN DEBCONF SECTION # # If you want your changes to this file preserved by dexconf, only make # changes before the ### BEGIN DEBCONF SECTION line above, and/or after # the ### END DEBCONF SECTION line below. (all of the meat and potatoes of XF86Config-4.conf is snipped) ### END DEBCONF SECTION ok, my XF86Config-4 is all wrong now. i need to edit this file. if we're not supposed to edit between the BEGIN DEBCONF and END DEBCONF, how the hell am i supposed to get a working XFree86 again? is there a tool that allows us to change this file? pete -- PGP Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D PGP Public Key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: this debconf stuff is crazy!
begin Justin R. Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thus spake Peter Jay Salzman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): ok, my XF86Config-4 is all wrong now. i need to edit this file. if we're not supposed to edit between the BEGIN DEBCONF and END DEBCONF, how the hell am i supposed to get a working XFree86 again? is there a tool that allows us to change this file? Try 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86'. just to be very clear on the issue, this isn't acceptable to me. i have very special mode timings and options that i use that aren't available if i reconfigure the package using dpkg. this stuff needs to be put in by hand. i like the chattr idea. just when you thought debian does the Right Thing, they start fscking up by automating somthing which really doesn't require automating... (debian is still the best. just slightly less better). pete -- PGP Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D PGP Public Key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
unresolved symbol in svgalib - a bug?
hi there, whenever an application uses svgalib, i get the error message: (application): relocation error: /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libvga.so.1: undefined symbol _xstat i checked google and debian-user archives -- one person posted the same message awhile back, but no one replied to his post for help. i also checked the debian bug system. no bugs were filed related to this problem. anyone have any ideas how to resolve the problem? if not, i'm going to file a bug report against svgalib1. pete -- PGP Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D PGP Public Key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XMMS bug
jesus. speak of the devil. i just spent about an hour on this today, in fact. you guys are mind readers. i'm using OSS drivers (not alsa). xmms kept segfaulting. using the process of elimination, i determined it was was the alsa plugin. perhaps we should file a bug report.. pete begin Markus Lechner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Am Donnerstag, 20. Dezember 2001 20:46 schrieb Steven Kurylo: Running debian woody 2.4.12 I use XMMS all the time and have never had a problem with it. Today I decided to play around with plug-ins so I did a apt-get install `apt-cache search xmms plugin | cut -f1 --delimiter=\ |sed s#smpeg-xmms##` to get all the plugin packages. I did the sed part since smpeg-xmms wouldn't install because libsdl1.2 wasn't availible. Once all the packages are installed and I try to run xmms I get a segmentation fault. If I do remove with the command above to remove all plug ins, then xmms runs fine. I don't have time right now to go through each plug in to see which crashes xmms, but I was wondering if anyone else has thing problem. Steven I had such a problem. Started XMMS and got a segfault. Ran DDD and watched what was happening. In my case i am using OSS and no ALSA. But XMMS had an ALSA library installed under /usr/lib/xmms/Output/ and tried to load it and so it crashed. I manually removed this library and from this moment on everything ran fine :) Hope this helps. -- PGP Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D PGP Public Key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
exim / rbl question
hi there, when i installed debian and configured exim, i was under the impression that exim was configured to reject any email from an IP address listed in the maps rbl database. this evening i was reading the map-rbl site, and came across: Testing Your RBLSM Configuration Russell Nelson has put together an auto-responder that you may use to test your RBLSM implementation. His instructions are: Send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] from the server whose RBLSM block you are testing. Expect one reply from ns.crynwr.com with the SMTP conversation. If you get another reply from linux.crynwr.com, your RBLSM filter is broken. i followed the instructions and apparently, i'm still getting mail from blacklisted addresses -- the 2nd email from linux.crynwr.com arrived. next, i looked at exim.conf: # Exim contains support for the Realtime Blocking List (RBL) that is being # maintained as part of the DNS. See http://maps.vix.com/rbl/ for # background. Uncommenting the following line will make Exim reject mail # from any host whose IP address is blacklisted in the RBL at maps.vix.com. rbl_domains = rbl.maps.vix.com rbl_reject_recipients = true rbl_warn_header = false this looks good to me. can someone guess why i'm still getting email that should be rejected by the rbl database? thanks! pete -- ** Please don't send me html email ** PGP Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D PGP Public Key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: exim / rbl question
begin Mario Vukelic [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Fri, 2001-12-14 at 07:41, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: hi there, when i installed debian and configured exim, i was under the impression that exim was configured to reject any email from an IP address listed in the maps rbl database. rbl_domains = rbl.maps.vix.com rbl_reject_recipients = true rbl_warn_header = false this looks good to me. can someone guess why i'm still getting email that should be rejected by the rbl database? How do you get the mail to exim? If you use fetchmail to pull it from your ISP's mail server, it won't work (FAQ at www.exim.conf) Kind regards, M. oops, sorry. i guess that's a very important detail! email comes directly to my site, dirac.org, which is hooked up to the net via DSL. no fetchmail, no ISP's, no .forward. that's what's so mysterious to me. do you have any ideas? pete -- ** Please don't send me html email ** PGP Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D PGP Public Key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: exim / rbl question
begin Noah Meyerhans [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thu, Dec 13, 2001 at 10:41:36PM -0800, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: when i installed debian and configured exim, i was under the impression that exim was configured to reject any email from an IP address listed in the maps rbl database. I don't think it's configured by default to use any kind of blacklist at all. Search for 'rbl' in /etc/exim.conf. i did, and it's definitely in there. saw it with my own two eyes. Then read /usr/share/doc/exim/spec.txt.gz to figure out how to configure rbl use. i've resolved the problem -- ordb.org has great instructions on how to configure (and test!) exim to use their open relay database. very easy to follow. pete
help: tcpwrappers aren't working!!
tcpwrappers don't seem to be working for cvspserver. on host satan (64.164.47.8), i have the following wrappers: # ## hosts.allow # ALL: localhost ALL: 192.168.0.1 # mephisto ALL: 192.168.0.2 # satan ALL: 192.168.0.3 # navalle ALL: 192.168.0.4 # lucifer # cvspserver: 169.237.43.86 # belial.ucdavis.edu cvspserver: 130.88.22.5 # John Levon (mpg cvs) # ## hosts.deny # portmap:ALL lockd: ALL mountd: ALL rquotad:ALL statd: ALL cvspserver: ALL yet belial.ucdavis.edu can access the pserver just fine: belial% cvs -d ':pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/local/cvs' login Logging in to :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:2401/usr/local/cvs CVS password: belial% i ran inetd in debug mode, and it didn't give too much information. the someone in the logs is belial.ucdavis.edu, whom i commented out of hosts.allow, and who shouldn't be allowed since i have cvspserver: ALL in hosts.deny. satan# inetd -d ADD : time proto=tcp, wait.max=0.40, user.group=root.(null) builtin=804d094 server=internal ADD : time proto=udp, wait.max=0.40, user.group=root.(null) builtin=804d0a4 server=internal ADD : ftp proto=tcp, wait.max=0.40, user.group=root.(null) builtin=0 server=/usr/sbin/tcpd ADD : smtp proto=tcp, wait.max=0.40, user.group=mail.(null) builtin=0 server=/usr/sbin/tcpd ADD : finger proto=tcp, wait.max=0.40, user.group=nobody.(null) builtin=0 server=/usr/sbin/tcpd ADD : cvspserver proto=tcp, wait.max=0.40, user.group=root.(null) builtin=0 server=/usr/sbin/tcpd someone wants cvspserver accept, ctrl 3 2771 execl /usr/sbin/tcpd 2771 reaped, status 0 it's very important to me to be able to restrict pserver to only one or two collaborators. i don't want anyone else accessing it. does anyone have any ideas why tcpwrappers seem to be failing? thanks, pete -- PGP Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D PGP Public Key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: help: tcpwrappers aren't working!!
begin: Peter Jay Salzman [EMAIL PROTECTED] quote tcpwrappers don't seem to be working for cvspserver. on host satan (64.164.47.8), i have the following wrappers: bad form to reply to your own message, but someone will ask. from inetd.conf: cvspserver stream tcp nowait.40 root /usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/cvs-pserver
Re: help: tcpwrappers aren't working!!
mike, thank you! begin: Michael Heldebrant [EMAIL PROTECTED] quote On Sun, 2001-12-02 at 12:22, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: begin: Peter Jay Salzman [EMAIL PROTECTED] quote Have you restarted inetd after changing your hosts files? Have you also killed any reamining cvspserver processes after reloading inetd? i did. and just to make ABSOLUTELY sure, i did the unthinkable. i rebooted after weeks of uptime. *sigh*. i can still access the pserver from belial.ucdavis.edu Does cvspserver try and run it's own standalone daemon from any scripts? netstat -atp as root should show that inetd is listening for the cvsperver ports, if it's not then you know it's starting from somewhere else. cute. i never knew about the p switch. unfortunately, pserver is being run from inetd: Local Address Foreign Address State PID/Program name *:cvspserver*:* LISTEN 178/inetd *:printer *:* LISTEN 182/lpd *:time *:* LISTEN 178/inetd *:finger*:* LISTEN 178/inetd *:sunrpc*:* LISTEN 103/portmap *:x11 *:* LISTEN 276/X *:www *:* LISTEN 211/apache *:ftp *:* LISTEN 178/inetd *:ssh *:* LISTEN 191/sshd *:smtp *:* LISTEN 178/inetd satan.diablo.loca:32771 belial.ucdavis.edu:ssh ESTABLISHED 300/ssh pete -- PGP Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D PGP Public Key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: via82cxxx chipset question
begin: Chanop Silpa-Anan [EMAIL PROTECTED] quote Once in debian galaxy, I heard Cheryl Homiak say It's possible this might get more answers on another list, but thought I'd try here first. I have a via82c597 rev 4 chipset and an Award bios. I have anabled the via82cxxx support in my kernel, but perhaps I do not understand what numbers to put in on the command line, or for which ide to put them in, because no matter what I do a 33mhz bus speed is assumed; if I try putting 66 even in I get something about this being impossible. I have included part of my dmesg here, and have included enough so you can see my setup and a couple of other messages that puzzle me. Any help would be appreciated. 33mhz PCI bus speed is correct. Don't bother changing it. I've heard that someone has tried and has corrupted his HD. To check the effect try your kernel with and without via ATA support. check with hdparm -tT /dev/hd? to check for performance gain. When you have via ATA support, you should be able to get higher performance trough dma tranfer. approximately what would hdparm -tT report when udma is enabled? i got the same values with and without udma support. it was explained to me that this is because there's a difference between a burst rate and sustained rate of data transfer. pete -- PGP Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D PGP Public Key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: help: tcpwrappers aren't working!!
begin: Michael Heldebrant [EMAIL PROTECTED] quote On Sun, 2001-12-02 at 14:41, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: That's ... interesting, have you looked at the output of tcpdchk -v for possible errors in the hosts files? It should also explain in great detail the access control for cvspserver. this was a great suggestion. i forgot all about tcpdchk. yes, the problem was cvspserver instead of cvs-pserver. i KNEW it had to be something simple. thanks mike! pete -- PGP Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D PGP Public Key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: No problem with staroffice 6.0b (was: Debian woody with Openoffice. Can not install)
my guess is that he's going to read the subject and delete your email before reading the content. you might want to try again with a subject that has his name to bring it to his attention. he's pretty frustrated right now. although, good luck. i've already given him the same instructions. he either wants someone to do it for him or barely knows what email means. peter begin: Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.com quote on Sun, Dec 02, 2001 at 03:58:38PM -0800, Tran Nam Binh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Hackers have put my user id into some redistributing list of your technical forum. I can't unsubcribe with automated system because my user id is not on the main list. Please help. I received tons of unwanted mails. Please forward this request to the list owner Thanks Post a copy of a received message with *full headers* to [EMAIL PROTECTED], in the event you aren't being directly subscribed to the list but are being passed messages by a friendly forwarder. -- PGP Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D PGP Public Key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: printing problems
begin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] quote Hi, I have a hewlett packard deskjet 697C. I have been able to print from off the Web on this printer before. In the past day, every time I print, the paper just run through without any printing on it. It does even try to print. Please need help or any suggestions? if it spits out paper, your printer is recognized by the kernel AND the spooler is working. this narrows down the problem considerably. exactly what application are you using to print the blank pages? try another application. can other applications print ok? pete -- PGP Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D PGP Public Key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
vintage lilo interface
hi there, awhile ago, lilo changed formats -- it was just black and white text, and now it shows a red menu that you can choose a kernel to boot. i'd like to get the old interface back. is this possible? pete -- PGP Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D PGP Public Key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Radeon 7500 XFree86 support.
begin: Ax [EMAIL PROTECTED] quote Dne so 24. listopad 2001 10:37 Karsten Heymann napsal(a): I don't have a Radeon card (yet) but I was just looking up info about it on the XFree lists and it appears that support for it is only in the XFree CVS right now. It should be included in the next official release. I think you have to use the generic SVGA support if you have a current XFree release. That's strange, mine is working perfectly with the XFree4 from actual sid (a Radeon VE) under 2.4.9. I'm even running opengl, glxinfo prints out alot and glxgears gives ~100 fps (Athlon 1000). Is that accelerated? No ;( glxgears gives me more than 800 fps with Radeon GE and Athlon 1200 with a radeon QE and athlon 1300, glxgears broke 1000 fps. pete -- PGP Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D PGP Public Key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Setting up devfs
did you enable mount devfs at boot time in the kernel config? if not, did you pass the kernel the devfs=mount option? pete begin: Frederico.S.Mu?oz [EMAIL PROTECTED] quote Hi, I've recently totally reinstalled my system from scratch after losing my /home partition. I'm running kernel 2.4.14 with a XFS patch and xfs partitions (except /boot). I've also compile devfs support in the kernel and installed devfsd. Now, I've red the documentation on the kernel-source and the HOWTO, but something isn't right here. devfs apparently is working because during boot I see some messages that refer to the HD as /dev/disks/lots-of-letters-and-numbers). I also receive messages while connecting my USB scanner - don't know if that's devfs though. The thing is, my /dev is the same as always. It doesn't have /dev/ide or any of the devsf directories. Its the same splattered 3232323 files as always. If I do $devfsd /dev it complains that there is no .devfsd in the directory... I have not touch fstab or anything, I simply compiled into the kernel and installed devfsd. Is there some extra steps that I need to make ? Pointers to the right documentation and general advice are always welcome :) thanks, fsm -- Frederico S. Mu?oz Cap Gemini Ernst Young : [EMAIL PROTECTED] IIES : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian Project: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Ever noticed something? Unix comes with compilers. Windows comes with Solitaire. ** -Adep -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PGP Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D PGP Public Key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
exim: misleading package description?
satan$ dpkg -p exim (snip) Description: Exim Mailer This MTA is rather easier to configure than smail or sendmail. It is a drop-in replacement for sendmail/mailq/rsmtp. Advanced features include the ability to reject connections from known spam sites, and an extremely efficient queue processing algorithm. i'm looking at: Advanced features include the ability to reject connections from known spam sites exim can use rbl to reject msgs from spam sites. but so can every other MTA. exim doesn't have a spam reject file that i can drop IP addresses into. exim doesn't use tcpwrappers to reject SMTP sessions. what exactly are some of these advanced features then? pete -- PGP Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D PGP Public Key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
exim: misleading package description?
satan$ dpkg -p exim (snip) Description: Exim Mailer This MTA is rather easier to configure than smail or sendmail. It is a drop-in replacement for sendmail/mailq/rsmtp. Advanced features include the ability to reject connections from known spam sites, and an extremely efficient queue processing algorithm. i'm looking at: Advanced features include the ability to reject connections from known spam sites exim can use rbl to reject msgs from spam sites. but so can every other MTA. exim doesn't have a spam reject file that i can drop IP addresses into. exim doesn't use tcpwrappers to reject SMTP sessions. what exactly are some of these advanced features then? pete -- PGP Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D PGP Public Key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X configuration on woody
i'd like to have a list of XF86Config generating tools for woody. can someone list a few? this is for 4.*, of course. not 3.*. pete -- PGP Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D PGP Public Key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[p: X configuration on woody]
i'd like to obtain a list of XF86Config generating tools for woody. can someone list a few? this is for 4.*, of course. not 3.*. pete -- PGP Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D PGP Public Key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
exim: misleading package description?
satan$ dpkg -p exim (snip) Description: Exim Mailer This MTA is rather easier to configure than smail or sendmail. It is a drop-in replacement for sendmail/mailq/rsmtp. Advanced features include the ability to reject connections from known spam sites, and an extremely efficient queue processing algorithm. i'm looking at: Advanced features include the ability to reject connections from known spam sites exim can use rbl to reject msgs from spam sites. but so can every other MTA. exim doesn't have a spam reject file that i can drop IP addresses into. exim doesn't use tcpwrappers to reject SMTP sessions. what exactly are some of these advanced features then? pete -- PGP Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D PGP Public Key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cvs security - ssh vs pserver?
i'd like to make some code available to collaborators via cvs. it appears that i have a choice to make: 1. use pserver 2. use ext (ssh) i just found out that using method 2, you can't assign a shell of /bin/false. cvs won't work. so option 2 also means giving a shell account on my machine. both these options seem insecure. i have to admit, i'm really not crazy about giving out shell accounts. any thoughts? is pserver really as insecure as dpkg claims in the configuration of the package? pete -- PGP Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D PGP Public Key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cvs and security
hi all, i'd like to set up a cvs repository for remote users. i recently found that cvs ssh access seems to require that i give remote users a shell account on my computer. but i've heard that pserver is very insecure. i don't know what to do. one thing is for damn sure. i don't want people having shell accounts on my machine. is pserver really as insecure as i've heard? is there a way to use ssh for cvs without giving people shell access on my machine? giving user cvs a shell of /bin/false seems to screw up cvs. help!! pete -- PGP Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D PGP Public Key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cvs security - ssh vs pserver?
begin: Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] quote Peter Jay Salzman wrote: i just found out that using method 2, you can't assign a shell of /bin/false. cvs won't work. so option 2 also means giving a shell account on my machine. Read http://kitenet.net/programs/sshcvs any thoughts? is pserver really as insecure as dpkg claims in the configuration of the package? It uses plain-text passwords, which is pretty insecure, yes. joey, i have no problem with plain text passwords. just as long as they can't get _shell access_ with that password. one more question -- i gave that URL a brief read. it's not clear that this method allows people to import changes to the their local copy. does it? please excuse my newbieness. i /just/ learned how to use cvs a few days ago. i'm still struggling with concept and terminology. thanks. pete -- PGP Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D PGP Public Key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
can exim be started with tcp wrappers?
hi all, i would like to change smtp stream tcp nowait mail /usr/sbin/exim exim -bs to smtp stream tcp nowait mail /usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/exim exim -bs in inetd.conf. i'd like to do this so i can drop spammer's IP addresses in /etc/hosts.deny so that my host won't talk to them when they send spam. would this work? or would it hose my mail? i'd like to get an opinion before trying it. thanks, pete -- You may not use the Software in connection with any site that disparages Microsoft, MSN, MSNBC, Expedia, or their products or services ... -- Clause from license for FrontPage 2002
Re: can exim be started with tcp wrappers?
hi ralf, begin: Ralf G. R. Bergs [EMAIL PROTECTED] quote On Fri, 16 Nov 2001 08:40:56 -0800, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: It would work -- but usually Exim already includes the tcpd stuff, so that Exim *automagically* uses /etc/hosts.(allow,deny). You don't need to prefix the inetd.conf line with tcpd. oh, that's very cool to know. thanks! :) But note that this is only of limited use -- spammers change IP addresses and SMTP relays often, so blocking them doesn't give you any benefits. You might even block legitimate messages from being delivered! i know -- but there are some very persistant spammers, and letters / complaints don't seem to help. for instance, 1800flowers.com is absolutely relentless. i've done everything, including reporting them to maps rbl. i'm a pretty experienced spam combatter, so i'm aware of the issues. Better have a look at procmail (Debian package available.) This allows you to filter messages by their (header and body) contents -- probably more what you want than the above. i currently use procmail, but only to sort my mail, not to filter it. i probably should get one of these procmail spammer lists that people collect these days. just haven't gotten around to it. pete -- You may not use the Software in connection with any site that disparages Microsoft, MSN, MSNBC, Expedia, or their products or services ... -- Clause from license for FrontPage 2002
wine build error: specmaker?!?
just downloaded wine tonight, and got a build error: # apt-get -b source wine (snip) make[2]: Leaving directory `/tmp/wine-0.20011026.033955/programs/winver' make[1]: Leaving directory `/tmp/wine-0.20011026.033955/programs' dh_testdir dh_testroot # distribute the files in debian/tmp into debian/packagename # according to the packagename.files files dh_movefiles dh_movefiles: debian/tmp/usr/bin/specmaker not found find: usr/bin/specmaker: No such file or directory make: *** [binary-arch] Error 1 Build command 'cd wine-0.20011026.033955 dpkg-buildpackage -b -uc' failed. E: Child process failed anyone have any ideas what specmaker is? it's not on any of my debian systems. thanks, pete
file conflicts between packages
hello, i updated woody today and found that the new xlib package wanted to install a file over the mixviews package. Preparing to replace xlibs 4.1.0-5 (using .../xlibs_4.1.0-6_i386.deb) ... Unpacking replacement xlibs ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/xlibs_4.1.0-6_i386.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults', which is also in package mixviews Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/xlibs_4.1.0-6_i386.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) what is the standard operating procedure for this? pete -- You may not use the Software in connection with any site that disparages Microsoft, MSN, MSNBC, Expedia, or their products or services ... -- Clause from license for FrontPage 2002
Re: Debugger for C programming?
begin: Daniel Toffetti [EMAIL PROTECTED] quote Is there a good debugger for C programming. You know, the kind of thing that lets you step through a line at a time running your program and put watches on variables etc. Now I know that Linux rules for C programming, so what do all you programmers use to debug your code? Thanks. Mark. I want to add another questions on this topic, does gdb supports debugging a running daemon? And what if the daemon loads a dinamic library? Newbie questions, of course, so please details are welcomed. yes, in fact, you can debug a running process using gdb. i wrote a gdb tutorial which talks about this very topic www.dirac.org/linux/gdb the tutorial is lynx friendly. pete -- You may not use the Software in connection with any site that disparages Microsoft, MSN, MSNBC, Expedia, or their products or services ... -- Clause from license for FrontPage 2002
HELP: UDMA/100 woes and trouble.
dear debian-user, i'm having a HECK of a time trying to get UDMA/100 transfer speeds on my system. hdparm -t reports 35 MB/s. i've played with this for at least 4 hours now, and am coming to the realization that i definitely need help. my system: athlon 1.3GHz epox 8kha mobo with VIA k266 (vt8366 + vt8233) hda: IBM deskstar UDMA/100 from lilo.conf: append=ide0=ata66 from dmesg: Kernel command line: auto BOOT_IMAGE=newlinux ro root=304 ide0=ata66 ide_setup: ide0=ata66 ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx VP_IDE: VIA vt8233 (rev 00) IDE UDMA100 controller on pci00:11.1 VP_IDE: ATA-66/100 forced bit set (WARNING)!! ide0: BM-DMA at 0xdc00-0xdc07, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:pio ide1: BM-DMA at 0xdc08-0xdc0f, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:DMA hda: IBM-DTLA-307045, ATA DISK drive hdc: QUANTUM FIREBALLP LM30, ATA DISK drive hdd: WDC WD205AA, ATA DISK drive hda: 90069840 sectors (46116 MB) w/1916KiB Cache, CHS=5606/255/63, UDMA(100) hdc: 58633344 sectors (30020 MB) w/1900KiB Cache, CHS=58168/16/63, UDMA(33) hdd: 40079088 sectors (20520 MB) w/2048KiB Cache, CHS=39761/16/63, UDMA(33) from hdparm /dev/hda: multcount= 16 (on) I/O support = 1 (32-bit) unmaskirq= 1 (on) using_dma= 1 (on) keepsettings = 0 (off) nowerr = 0 (off) readonly = 0 (off) readahead= 8 (on) geometry = 5606/255/63, sectors = 90069840, start = 0 from kernel config: CONFIG_IDE=y CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDE=y CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDISK=y CONFIG_IDEDISK_MULTI_MODE=y CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEPCI=y CONFIG_IDEPCI_SHARE_IRQ=y CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDMA_PCI=y CONFIG_BLK_DEV_ADMA=y CONFIG_BLK_DEV_VIA82CXXX=y CONFIG_IDEDMA_AUTO=y CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDE_MODES=y hdparm -t reports 35 MB/s. this is nowhere near the 100MB/s that i'm expecting to get. apparently, the ide0=ata66 not only doesn't give me UDMA/100, the kernel (dmesg) actually warning me that the ata-66/100 bit is set. should i be worried about this warning? any suggestions or hints? is anybody getting anywhere close to 100MB/s? pete -- You may not use the Software in connection with any site that disparages Microsoft, MSN, MSNBC, Expedia, or their products or services ... -- Clause from license for FrontPage 2002
Re: amd / radeon users, attention.
hi jeff (and nicole), it was definitely working, but i was using a generic AGP port driver. i just noticed that 2.4.10 has support for KT266 agp, (as well as radeon frame buffer). i'm now getting about 800 fps on gears at 24 bpp. at 16 bpp color depth, i'm getting over 1100 fps. YEAH :) pete begin: Jeffrey W. Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] quote On Mon, 24 Sep 2001, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: i just got my epox 8kha board with a radeon card to work with DRI under linux. it was rough going, and i've seen, while websurfing, that alot of people have had trouble with this in the past. many people are getting agp unsupported messages by the agpgart driver. if anybody needs help (i assume this is going into the archives), feel free to contact me. i just got a frame rate of 250 fps on gears. mamma mia! :-) Are you sure it's working? I get something like 800 fps on gears on a Radeon DDR using a 1.4 GHz athlon, at 16 bit color depth? Making this stuff work on the newer boards *is* tough. AGPGart must be loaded as a module, or patched to understand the AMD 760. passing agp_try_unsupported=1 as a kernel parameter in the boot loader does not work, despite the documentation which claims it does. I also needed a patch from Steven Tweedie to be able to start X at all (DRI or otherwise) using the Radeon. I haven't noticed any difficulties particular to getting this to work on Debian. It's just the same magnitude pain as on Slackware, Red Hat, et. al. -jwb -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You may not use the Software in connection with any site that disparages Microsoft, MSN, MSNBC, Expedia, or their products or services ... -- Clause from license for FrontPage 2002
apt-get wierdness: when 6 is equal to 9
hello all, problem: two systems with the same sources.list don't know about the same available packages. explanation: i just built a new system, and scp'd over the sources.list file from an older machine. both machines have the same /etc/apt/sources.list: deb ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ woody main non-free contrib deb-src ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ woody main non-free contrib deb ftp://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US woody/non-US main contrib non-free deb-src ftp://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US woody/non-US main contrib non-free # Security deb http://security.debian.org/debian-non-US woody/non-US main deb-src http://security.debian.org/debian-non-US woody/non-US main deb http://security.debian.org/debian-non-US woody/non-US contrib deb-src http://security.debian.org/debian-non-US woody/non-US contrib # Wine apt-get -b source wine #deb http://gluck.debian.org/~andreas/debian wine main #deb-src http://gluck.debian.org/~andreas/debian wine main yet, on the older machine: satan# dpkg -l *mesa* pn giram-gnome-me none (no description available) pn giram-mesa none (no description available) un mesa-dev none (no description available) ii mesademos 3.4.2-1 Example programs for Mesa (and OpenGL in gen rn mesag-dev none (no description available) pn mesag-glide2-d none (no description available) pn mesag-widgets- none (no description available) pn mesag3 none (no description available) pn mesag3+ggi none (no description available) pn mesag3+ggi-dev none (no description available) un mesag3-glide none (no description available) pn mesag3-glide2 none (no description available) pn mesag3-widgets none (no description available) ii xlibmesa-dev 4.1.0-5 XFree86 version of Mesa 3D graphics library ii xlibmesa3 4.1.0-5 XFree86 version of Mesa 3D graphics library ii xlibosmesa-dev 4.1.0-5 Mesa/XFree86 offscreen rendering library dev ii xlibosmesa34.1.0-5 Mesa/XFree86 offscreen rendering library and on the newer machine: # dpkg -l *mesa* un mesa-dev none (no description available) ii mesademos 3.4.2-1 Example programs for Mesa (and OpenGL in gen ii mesag-dev 3.1-17 Development library for Mesa [libc6]. pn mesag-glide2-d none (no description available) pn mesag-widgets- none (no description available) ii mesag3 3.1-17 A 3-D graphics library which uses the OpenGL pn mesag3+ggi none (no description available) pn mesag3+ggi-dev none (no description available) un mesag3-glide none (no description available) pn mesag3-glide2 none (no description available) pn mesag3-widgets none (no description available) i've typed apt-get clean apt-get update a bunch of times, yet the newer machine doesn't seem to know about the xlibmesa* packages. how can two machines with the exact same sources.list file not know about the same packages? pete -- You may not use the Software in connection with any site that disparages Microsoft, MSN, MSNBC, Expedia, or their products or services ... -- Clause from license for FrontPage 2002
Re: apt-get wierdness: when 6 is equal to 9
begin: Hereward Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] quote once upon a time Peter Jay Salzman [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: problem: two systems with the same sources.list don't know about the same available packages. have you tried running the update selection from dselect. I think the problem is that dpkg only lists the files from the package list when updated via dselect. Or alternativly you could use apt-cache search filename which would use the apt package list. Hereward hereward, thanks for the reply. so dselect and apt contain different views of what packages are on the system? just tried it -- i think you're right. imho, this goes beyond inelegance, and borders on a bug that needs to be fixed. it's unthinkable that there are two databases of available packages which are out of sync everytime we choose apt over dselect or dselect over apt. seems like debian should strive to make apt and dselect front ends for the same package management system. :( anyway, your suggestion worked. much thanks! pete -- You may not use the Software in connection with any site that disparages Microsoft, MSN, MSNBC, Expedia, or their products or services ... -- Clause from license for FrontPage 2002
amd / radeon users, attention.
i just got my epox 8kha board with a radeon card to work with DRI under linux. it was rough going, and i've seen, while websurfing, that alot of people have had trouble with this in the past. many people are getting agp unsupported messages by the agpgart driver. if anybody needs help (i assume this is going into the archives), feel free to contact me. i just got a frame rate of 250 fps on gears. mamma mia! :-) pete -- You may not use the Software in connection with any site that disparages Microsoft, MSN, MSNBC, Expedia, or their products or services ... -- Clause from license for FrontPage 2002
[rml@ufl.edu: Re: report: success with agp_try_unsupported=1]
forwarded to the debian-user list for its archives... - Forwarded message from Robert Love [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Subject: Re: report: success with agp_try_unsupported=1 From: Robert Love [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Peter Jay Salzman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org X-Mailer: Evolution/0.14.99+cvs.2001.09.24.08.08 (Preview Release) Date: 24 Sep 2001 17:50:38 -0400 On Mon, 2001-09-24 at 17:40, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: i just built a system: 1.3GHz amd athlon epox 8kha ddr motherboard via kt266 (vt8366, vt8233) 768MB ddr ram radeon QD with 64MB video buffer, tvio i enabled agpgart, and got the message: Linux agpgart interface v0.99 (c) Jeff Hartmann agpgart: Maximum main memory to use for agp memory: 690M agpgart: Unsupported Via chipset (device id: 3099), you might want to try agp_try_unsupported=1. agpgart: no supported devices found. [drm] Initialized radeon 1.1.1 20010405 on minor 0 I will write a patch for this to add VIA KT266 support (so you don't need to do the agp_try_unsupported=1 mess, it will be supported natively). Although, the patch is going to be against 2.4.10. I'll send it out in a sec, start downloading 2.4.10 :) 2. i recompiled the kernel but built agpgart in rather than loading it as a module. i then inserted the following line into /etc/lilo.conf: append=agp_try_unsupported=1 but it didn't seem to work. someone told me that to get agp work to work for my system, agpgart MUST be built as a module and you MUST pass it the argument agp_try_unsupported=1. in other words, you can't build it into Yes, I believe this is a bug. Maybe I should take a look at it... agpgart doesn't read the command line, or not correctly, or something. -- Robert M. Love rml at ufl.edu rml at tech9.net
[OT] avoiding recursive readline commands in .inputrc
hi all, in bash, i'd like to map the uparrow key to escape uparrow. the trouble is that there doesn't seem to be a way to make readline avoid the infinite recursion that results. specifically, i'm trying to do: $if bash OA: OA $endif why? because i like using vi style editing in bash, but i hate the fact that i have to press escape before the uparrow starts showing command history. pete
avoiding recursive readline commands in .inputrc
hi all, in bash, i'd like to map the uparrow key to escape uparrow. the trouble is that there doesn't seem to be a way to make readline avoid the infinite recursion that results. specifically, i'm trying to do: $if bash OA: OA $endif why? because i like using vi style editing in bash, but i hate the fact that i have to press escape before the uparrow starts showing command history. pete -- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors... [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailer Daemon www.dirac.org/p
[OT] ripping cd question
when ripping cd's with cdparanoia, the default is wav format. but i can rip with the headerless pcm format too. question: does the wav format lose any sound quality when compared with the headerless PCM format? pete -- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors... [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailer Daemon www.dirac.org/p
[OT] what is a preemp error?
on some cd's i get a no preemp error from cdrecord. what does this error mean? what can i do about it? thanks! pete -- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors... [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailer Daemon www.dirac.org/p
how to you reconfigure an already installed package?
i'm surprised that dpkg doesn't have a --reconfigure option. how are we supposed to reconfigure an already installed package? the only way i can think of is to uninstall the package and reinstall it. pete -- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors... [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailer Daemon www.dirac.org/p
help: mutt doesn't want to send email to ip addresses
hi all, mutt doesn't want to deliver mail to addresses which use an ip address. in other words, my system is dirac.org at address 64.164.47.8. i can send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED], but any email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] gets bounced as unrouteable mail domain. i'm pretty sure that pine was able to deliver to addresses like [EMAIL PROTECTED] perhaps it's just a .muttrc thing. can someone please help me? i'd really like to be able to send email to addresses like [EMAIL PROTECTED] (when replying to spam, often all i have is an ip address. i'd rather not take the time to use nslookup to get a host/domain name from an ip address). thanks! pete
Re: Undeleting files
see the undeletion-howto. i restored a whole hard drive this way (lost partitions and filenames, but i got every single file back!!). totally invaluable. do it by hand before resorting to an automated process. it'll be a learning experience. pete begin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] quote Is there any way to get back deleted files in Linux? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors... [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailer Daemon www.dirac.org/p
Re: Numeric Keypad in X
begin: Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.com quote on Mon, Jul 30, 2001 at 05:06:48PM -0700, Brad Rhodes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: How can I type numbers on the numeric keypad in X? I turn on the Num Lock and I still can't type numbers. What keysyms/keycodes are you getting? see xev if you don't know how to answer this question. pete -- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors... [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailer Daemon www.dirac.org/p
proftp question: symlinks can't be followed.
dear all, i made a symlink from /data/MP3 to /home/ftp. the trouble is that even though anonymous users can see the directory, the can't look into the directory. for example: ls -l lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root9 Jul 30 07:16 MP3 - /data/MP3 drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 4096 Dec 16 2000 incoming/ -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 166 Mar 7 2000 welcome.msg ls -l MP3 cd MP3 MP3: No such file or directory according to the proftpd documentation, this should be ok. obviously i'm missing something here. help? thanks! pete -- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors... [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailer Daemon www.dirac.org/p
Re: Who's using a program
you're prolly thinking of lsof. begin: Miguel Griffa [EMAIL PROTECTED] quote ps aux for programs? At 07:30 a.m. 30/07/01 -0600, Robert Kerr wrote: Hi all, I seem to recall reading (somewhere in my wanderings) of a utility that would tell me who is currently accessing a file/program. Does anyone know of any such beast? Thanks -- -bob
Re: Removing a sound module?
begin: staf wagemakers [EMAIL PROTECTED] quote On Mon, Jul 30, 2001 at 04:07:05PM +0300, Antti Tolamo wrote: How can I remove a soundmodule if it doesn't succeed from modconf? I installed wrong module and now it fails as I try to remove it. modprobe -r module_name example: modprobe -r sb STM that this is exactly what he's talking about. if you can't remove the sound module with rmmod or modprobe, you will need to reboot the system. pete -- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors... [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailer Daemon www.dirac.org/p
Re: GIMP 1.2 +GIFs
dpkg is your friend. you should definitely learn how to use it. see dpkg -l gimp* begin: Hereward Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] quote Hi, I'm trying to get the GIMP to work with .gif files. It can open them, but doesn't recognize the format when trying to save them (even when i've converted the colours). I remember ages ago having to install a seperate gimp-gif program, or simalar. Any help would be great, Thanks in advance, Hereward
Re: Removing a sound module?
begin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] quote On Mon, Jul 30, 2001 at 07:50:15AM -0700, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: if you can't remove the sound module with rmmod or modprobe, you will need to reboot the system. a fuser -v /dev/dsp /dev/audio /dev/mixer may be helpful in identifying and killing a process which is using the sound device and tying up the module. i've also found on occasion, my sound drivers will get corrupted after a suspend/resume on my laptop. this isn't a driver getting corrupted. when a driver gets corrupted, your kernel gets corrupted. a reboot is necessary. you're talking about bad behavior on the _user_ side. not the _kernel_ side, which is where device drivers live. fuser didn't show anything using the device, but when i checked my processes, esd was sitting there pegging the cpu. when i killed esd, i could remove and reinstall the sound driver (maestro3) and sound would work again. i appreciated this solution instead of rebooting because it is just fun to tell people you are tracking an uptime on your laptop. very true -- however, the original poster (you should've left the entire quote in, tsk tsk!) said that he had loaded the _wrong_ module. meaning that, somehow, the module was able to init but simply can't communicate with the kernel. probing hardware is a funny business. it's much more than conceivable that such an occurance will corrupt kernel code. in such a case, the module fails to load not because /dev/dsp is in use, but because of some other reason. perhaps the MODCOUNT gets lost. a pointer went wild. who knows? in that case, a reboot is much more than recommended. even if the system seems fine, the potential for true misery exists. pete -- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors... [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailer Daemon www.dirac.org/p
wine question
dear all, as i understand it, wine comes with its own libraries which implement the win32 API. i also understand that if we somehow have access to a windows CD, all legal issues aside, we can use files off windows to make wine work even better. how can i do this? is there a debian specific way of doing this? pete -- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors... [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailer Daemon www.dirac.org/p
question about MTRR and XFree86 4.0
according to /usr/src/linux/Documentation/mtrr.txt... A patch is being written for XFree86 which will make this automatic: in other words the X server will manipulate /proc/mtrr using the ioctl() interface, so users won't have to do anything. does anybody know if this has been done yet? it looks like my mtrr was set: reg00: base=0x ( 0MB), size= 128MB: write-back, count=1 reg01: base=0x0800 ( 128MB), size= 64MB: write-back, count=1 reg02: base=0x0c00 ( 192MB), size= 32MB: write-back, count=1 reg03: base=0xe800 (3712MB), size= 64MB: write-combining, count=2 but i haven't echo'd anything to /proc/mtrr. has this patch already been integrated into X 4.0? pete -- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors... [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailer Daemon www.dirac.org/p
wine question
dear all, i put the following in sources.list since i'd like to update wine on a daily basis from cvs: # Wine deb http://gluck.debian.org/~andreas/debian wine main deb-src http://gluck.debian.org/~andreas/debian wine main i'm a little confused, because i'm not seeing wine updated when i run apt-get. what gives? it appears that i have version: ii wine 0.20010223.034 Windows Emulator (Binary Emulator) which looks about 4 months old. anyone know what's going on? pete -- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors... [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailer Daemon www.dirac.org/p
woody yadex is 2 years behind the times?
dear all, this is from dpkg: ii yadex 1.0.1-1.1 WAD file editor for doom-style WADs this is from the yadex website: 2001-06-30 - Yadex 1.5.2 is out 2000-12-12 - Yadex 1.5.1 is out 2000-09-25 - The mailing lists have moved 2000-08-27 - Yadex 1.5.0 is out 2000-04-01 - Yadex 1.4.0 is out 2000-01-14 - Yadex 1.3.2 is out 2000-01-12 - Yadex 1.3.1 is out 2000-01-11 - Yadex 1.3.0 is out 1999-11-23 - Yadex 1.2.0 is out 1999-08-28 - Yadex 1.1.0 is out is the woody version of yadex REALLY 2 years behind the upstream version? i can't believe this. someone please tell me what's going on! pete -- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors... [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailer Daemon www.dirac.org/p
Re: Unix administrator
begin: Dimitri Maziuk [EMAIL PROTECTED] quote * Chris Parker ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spake thusly: Student here from a micro$oft school of thought and sick of it. What do I need to read...study to gain the honor of a unix admin.? Is athere any good online classes or tutorials that i should check into? Also what would be a good route to take for a beginner programming? Hopefully the Debian gurus will reply. THANKS TO ALL THAT REPLY! this is sheer and utter nonsense. you said admin, not programmer, right? 1. you DON'T start programming assembly language to become a unix admin. 2. you DON'T have to learn C to be a fledgling unix admin, although it would definitely make sense to read KR down the road, AFTER you learn basics. a good knowledge of make is more important. 3. you DON'T need to read knuth and aho to become a unix admin. 4. you DON'T need to learn discrete math to become a unix admin. being able to use a calculator is good enough. 5. you CERTAINLY DON'T need to read stevens to become a unix admin. a good book like the NAG is certainly enough to begin with. later on, you can flesh out your knowledge with more detailed books. stevens is overkill. 6. you DON'T need to read ESR's cathedral to become a unix admin. that the HECK does this have to do with admining? 7. you DON'T need to start soldering shit. this is completely insane. he must have thought you meant programmer. here are the few things i agree with: Read Tannenbaum, Silbershatz (sp?) and Sobell's Practical Guide. Try shell, awk, sed scripts. Read the Camel book and learn Perl. now this is good advice. you MUST MUST MUST know perl and shell. Set up Sendmail, Bind and Inn on your quadruple-boot home peecee only if you want to become a professional. you never said if you want to use linux for home use or not. no need to know bind and inn if so. knowing a bit about sendmail is crucial, but you certainly don't need to, say, read the o'reilly horror called sendmail. (read everything you can find on linuxdoc.org). good advice, but unrealistic. read what you need to know. don't read what you don't need to know. you certainly won't need to learn how to program device drivers, for instance. a basic understanding of what they are, how they work and how they're configured is enough. Proceed to Garfinkel's Practical Guide and Zwicky's Firewalls. there's tons of good references out there. Get an entry-level helpdesk job at an ISP and work there until hospitalized. Alternatively, work there for a few months, walk to the nearest asylum and surrender yourself to friendly nursies. mandatory if you want to become a professional. not a good move if you want to administer your home system. Or you can skip all of those steps and go get your head examined now. h one last comment from me. once you install linux on your system, almost everything you need to know will be on your hard drive somewhere. advice which is better than mine (and MUCH better than the guy who posted this) is to learn where to find this info on your hard drive. once you do that, you've taken the most important step to becoming a linux admin. peter -- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors... [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailer Daemon www.dirac.org/p
custom spam file (ala rbl)
is there a file that i can drop IP numbers in to keep exim from accepting email from those sites? kind of like using rbl, except i'd have my own custom reject file. i can simulate such a file usign ipchains, but i'd like to know if exim has an IP reject file. thanks! pete -- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors... [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailer Daemon www.dirac.org/p
help making debian ISO's
i'd like to burn a copy of the debian woody distribution, so i'm following the funky instructions about making pseudo-images and using rsync to convert the images to official images. the problem is that the .list file that i'm supposed to get from http://www.uk.debian.org/debian-cd/cd-images/ is only for 2.2r3. there doesn't appear to be a .list for woody. does this mean that there is no official woody cd image or does it mean i need to look elsewhere for the woody .list file? pete -- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors... [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailer Daemon www.dirac.org/p
voodoo trouble - sanity is at stake here.
hey all, my girlfriend asked me to fix something on her computer, and i'm at a loss... she has a voodoo3 / woody / X 4.0 hardware acceleration is obviously working for root (gears looks great, and independent of window size; quake3 looks great). it's obviously NOT working for non-root users (gears is slw. quake3 is painful). when X boots (even as non-root), everything looks nice and healthy. i get the DRI enabled message. yet, it's obvious that something isn't going right for non-root users. i'm at a loss here. X looks good. voodoo is good under root. you don't need a kernel module for non-root acces of the X4 voodoo boards. i don't think anything needs to be setuid. what else is there to check?!? pete -- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors... [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailer Daemon www.dirac.org/p
Re: voodoo trouble - sanity is at stake here.
begin: Alson van der Meulen [EMAIL PROTECTED] quote On Sun, Jun 03, 2001 at 09:40:21AM -0700, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: hey all, my girlfriend asked me to fix something on her computer, and i'm at a loss... she has a voodoo3 / woody / X 4.0 hardware acceleration is obviously working for root (gears looks great, and independent of window size; quake3 looks great). it's obviously NOT working for non-root users (gears is slw. quake3 is painful). when X boots (even as non-root), everything looks nice and healthy. i get the DRI enabled message. yet, it's obvious that something isn't going right for non-root users. i'm at a loss here. X looks good. voodoo is good under root. you don't need a kernel module for non-root acces of the X4 voodoo boards. i don't think anything needs to be setuid. have something like this in your xf86config: Section DRI Mode 0666 EndSection perfect, thank you. look a the docs on dri.sf.net for more info definitely a good site to spend some time at. thanks for the link! pete -- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors... [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailer Daemon www.dirac.org/p
compiling gtk under woody
hello all, today i would like to teach myself how to use gtk. i'm running woody. which packages should i apt-get install? pete -- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors... [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailer Daemon www.dirac.org/p
offtopic (completely): linux games
dear all, i know i'll get flamed for this, but i also happen to know that some of you will greatly appreciate this information: if you ever wanted to get quake III but didn't want to spend the (admittedly hefty) price of $50 or $60, now is your chance to purchase it: quake 3 arena: 9.99 descent 3: 9.99 myth 2: 9.99 heretic 2: 9.99 heavy gear 2: 9.99 soldier of fortune: 9.99 railroad tycoon 2: 9.99 eric's solitaire: 9.99 http://www.ebgames.com/search on linux these are INCREDIBLE prices. if loki sales get good enough, maybe some day we'll get diablo or (native) halflife for linux. :-) sorry, but people like me who refuse to run a dual-boot computer (refuse to fork over $$$ to the evil empire) rely on loki software for recreation. :) pete pgpXbqtzSHefN.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: offtopic (completely): linux games
On Sun 15 Apr 01, 1:52 PM, Nate Amsden said: Peter Jay Salzman wrote: sorry, but people like me who refuse to run a dual-boot computer (refuse to fork over $$$ to the evil empire) rely on loki software for recreation. :) then you should pay full price and support loki. well, i DO buy each and every game as they come out, so you're nagging up the wrong tree! :) i bought quake 3 about a week after it came out. i played the hell out of the demo, a few days after i bought quake 3, i got the demo for unreal tournament, and never used quake blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah... (snip) you're rubber, i'm glue whatever you said is true for me too. :-) my point is a sale to ebworld is better than no sale at all. and shame on you, nate, if you say otherwise. pete
WTF -- klogd has disappeared from woody?!?
dear all, i just updated woody and klogd has disappeared into thin air. it's not even in dpkg -L sysklogd # dpkg -L sysklogd | grep klogd /usr/share/doc/sysklogd /usr/share/doc/sysklogd/changelog.gz /usr/share/doc/sysklogd/copyright /usr/share/doc/sysklogd/changelog.Debian.gz /usr/share/doc/sysklogd/readme.txt.gz /usr/share/man/man8/sysklogd.8.gz /etc/init.d/sysklogd /etc/cron.daily/sysklogd /etc/cron.weekly/sysklogd i'm using: # dpkg -p sysklogd Package: sysklogd Priority: required Version: 1.4.1-1 WTF is going on here? pgpzOYsWCb9IQ.pgp Description: PGP signature
