Re: 64bit vs 32bit on a 64bit System
On Wed, 9 Feb 2011, Raffaele Morelli wrote: 2011/2/9 Boblitz John john.bobl...@bertschi.com We are internally debating whether to install the 64bit port on our 64bit machine. Are there any reasons to NOT use the 64bit port? Cheers, John Boblitz ?! :-) IMHO I see no reasons at all. I am running amd64 (both on production servers and desktops) before it became official (etch I guess) without any problem. If you want to use the machine for java applications/development, you should check if everyting works correctly on a 64 bit system. I recently had massive problems with tenwork connections from Java processes on a 64 bit machine. If you have any special requirements as which java version to use, you should best stick to the 32 bit version with the large memory extension. (with heavy java development you always want more than 4 GB RAM available for greedy processes) -- peter koellner pe...@asgalon.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/alpine.DEB.2.02.1102091650230.2937@kropotkin
Re: Squeeze how to use networked printer?
I don't know if this helps: I have a HP 2550 LaserJet connected via USB to an AirportExpress WLAN Station which makes the printer accessible in the LAN. The computer is a thinkpad with debian squeeze 64 bit installed. So let me see how it got there... 1. Go to System-Administration-Printing. 2. Click on the little arrow right of the big add button and select Printer not Class 3. Enter root password 4. select network printer 5. select search for printer 6. don't fill in the search field but just press the Search button. what happens? On Wed, 9 Feb 2011, David Christensen wrote: debian-user: I recently installed a Debian 6.0.0 i386 Squeeze desktop system. I am unable to figure out how to print to a LAN printer (HP LaserJet P2055dn). When I go to Swirl - System - Administration - Printing and click Add, nothing happens. Under Lenny, I was able to fumble my way through the equivalent tool and successfully setup/ install/ configure/ whatever the printer and use it from all my desktop applications. I've installed anything and everything related to HP and printing via Swirl - System - Administration - Synaptic Package Manager, but still no luck. STFW I see some discussion, but no solution (yet): http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=5t=60065 Any suggestions? TIA, David -- peter koellner pe...@asgalon.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/alpine.DEB.2.02.1102091813480.2937@kropotkin
Re: Skype
On Mon, 7 Feb 2011, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: On Seg, 07 Fev 2011, Raffaele Morelli wrote: Hi, I wonder if anyone of you is currently using skype on debian amd64 and which app are you using. I would prefer not to install ia32-* stuffs as suggested by http://wiki.debian.org/skype Since neither the source nor actual 64-bit binaries are provided by the company that provides Skype, the only way to use it is installing 32-bit libraries. You could also try downloading the statically linked version (if it still exists), but it is not a .deb and thus not integrated with the packaging system. I am using skype static 2.1.0.81. The debian packages did not work on squeeze for me. I remember that there was some solveable trouble with the 32 bit support libraries, but don't remember where exactly, because I tinkered with all available versions before finding a solution. I think there was one additional 32 bit package which I did find after searching for the missing library name and skype, but I am not sure if it was for the static version. The dependencies now are like this: peter@kropotkin:/opt$ cd skype_static-2.1.0.81/ peter@kropotkin:/opt/skype_static-2.1.0.81$ ldd skype linux-gate.so.1 = (0xf7739000) libasound.so.2 = /usr/lib32/libasound.so.2 (0xf7653000) libXv.so.1 = /usr/lib32/libXv.so.1 (0xf764e000) libXss.so.1 = /usr/lib32/libXss.so.1 (0xf764a000) libSM.so.6 = /usr/lib32/libSM.so.6 (0xf7642000) libICE.so.6 = /usr/lib32/libICE.so.6 (0xf762b000) libXi.so.6 = /usr/lib32/libXi.so.6 (0xf761e000) libXrender.so.1 = /usr/lib32/libXrender.so.1 (0xf7615000) libXrandr.so.2 = /usr/lib32/libXrandr.so.2 (0xf760e000) libfreetype.so.6 = /usr/lib32/libfreetype.so.6 (0xf7596000) libfontconfig.so.1 = /usr/lib32/libfontconfig.so.1 (0xf7567000) libXext.so.6 = /usr/lib32/libXext.so.6 (0xf7558000) libX11.so.6 = /usr/lib32/libX11.so.6 (0xf743b000) libz.so.1 = /usr/lib32/libz.so.1 (0xf7427000) libgthread-2.0.so.0 = /usr/lib32/libgthread-2.0.so.0 (0xf7421000) libglib-2.0.so.0 = /lib32/libglib-2.0.so.0 (0xf7358000) librt.so.1 = /lib32/librt.so.1 (0xf734f000) libdl.so.2 = /lib32/libdl.so.2 (0xf734b000) libpthread.so.0 = /lib32/libpthread.so.0 (0xf7332000) libstdc++.so.6 = /usr/lib32/libstdc++.so.6 (0xf723d000) libm.so.6 = /lib32/libm.so.6 (0xf7216000) libgcc_s.so.1 = /usr/lib32/libgcc_s.so.1 (0xf71f8000) libc.so.6 = /lib32/libc.so.6 (0xf70b1000) libuuid.so.1 = /lib32/libuuid.so.1 (0xf70ad000) libexpat.so.1 = /usr/lib32/libexpat.so.1 (0xf7087000) libxcb.so.1 = /usr/lib32/libxcb.so.1 (0xf706d000) libpcre.so.3 = /lib32/libpcre.so.3 (0xf703a000) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xf773a000) libXau.so.6 = /usr/lib32/libXau.so.6 (0xf7037000) libXdmcp.so.6 = /usr/lib32/libXdmcp.so.6 (0xf7032000) -- peter koellner pe...@asgalon.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/alpine.DEB.2.02.1102071329300.3031@kropotkin
Re: Re (3): Reading files from a diskette from an old MacOS.
On Sun, 9 Jan 2011, peasth...@shaw.ca wrote: From: Peter Koellner pe...@asgalon.net Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2011 20:28:04 +0100 (CET) Well, 5 1/4 disks were out of fashion around 1988, if I remember correctly, and I think the disk in question was from the 90s, so I guessed it probably was a 3 1/2 disk... Certainly. Was any new Macintosh equiped with an internal 5 1/4 drive? I have a vague recollection of external 5 1/4 drives. Well, the last 5 1/4 drive I had was the external one for the Apple ][. All my later machines from 1986 on - Atari ST, Acorn Archimedes, PowerMac - only had 3 1/2 floppies. I think the first few generations of IBM compatibles had 5 1/4 also, but the original Macintosh had an internal 3 1/2 floppy. So if it is from a Mac, it is a 3 1/2 one. -- peter koellner pe...@asgalon.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/alpine.osx.2.00.1101100233080@local.meinefc.de
Re: Re(2): Reading files from a diskette from an old MacOS.
On Thu, 6 Jan 2011, John Hasler wrote: Peter Koellner writes: Also: You can set the physical write protect switch in the diskette corner to prevent accidental writes. You know, the hole in the corner should not be covered, in case you don't recall... No, no. You put a piece of tape over the notch to write-protect the side. Oh. You mean those wierd little Apple disks. Never mind. Well, 5 1/4 disks were out of fashion around 1988, if I remember correctly, and I think the disk in question was from the 90s, so I guessed it probably was a 3 1/2 disk... -- peter koellner pe...@asgalon.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/alpine.osx.2.00.1101082022170@local.meinefc.de
Re: Re(2): Reading files from a diskette from an old MacOS.
On Thu, 6 Jan 2011, PETER EASTHOPE wrote: !!WARNING WARNING!! I made a mistake in the above. That should have been: dd if=/dev/fd0 of=fd.image.raw bs=8k Right oh. I probably won't have the diskettes until next week and will mount -o ro and will be careful about if and of. [And if the OpenVPN tunnel is working will be able to put the in-reply-to line in a reply.] Thanks for the several good ideas, ... Peter E. Also: You can set the physical write protect switch in the diskette corner to prevent accidental writes. You know, the hole in the corner should not be covered, in case you don't recall... greetings -- peter koellner pe...@asgalon.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/alpine.osx.2.00.1101062257270@local.meinefc.de
Re: debian testing amd64: X windows trouble after todays updates. (input events problem?)
On Thu, 9 Dec 2010, Peter Koellner wrote: I switched between xdm and gdm, and the problem with unresponsive window manager and locked in focused window seems to go away with that, though I am not totally sure. Today I am having the same effect after starting the gnome session via xdm, so the display manager has nothing to do with it. The input events seem to reach the window manager and gnome panels occasionally, but I have to try for minutes until I am able to switch focus, close a window or start another application. I don't see any error messages. This is an effect so bad I have not experienced ever with debian during the last twelve years or so. The gnome panel gets redrawn on schedule and I can use my application in keyboard focus, but mouse events seem to have difficulties. xpdf left a dysfunctional menu on the display, when I try to click the Quit menu entry the mouseclick event reaches the gnome panel below instead and minimizes the xpdf window. So I guess some part of the X input event handling got clobbered. -- peter koellner pe...@asgalon.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/alpine.deb.2.02.1012101401330.2...@kropotkin
Re: debian testing amd64: X windows trouble after todays updates. (input events problem?)
Well, I found the dpkg log with all the packages updated in that batch. one of them or a combination has to be responsible. I guess it might be desktop-base 6.0.2 -- peter koellner pe...@asgalon.net2010-12-09 16:33:55 upgrade php-net-smtp 1.4.2-1 1.4.2-3 2010-12-09 16:33:57 upgrade php-soap 0.12.0-1 0.12.0-2 2010-12-09 16:33:58 upgrade isc-dhcp-client 4.1.1-P1-12 4.1.1-P1-15 2010-12-09 16:33:59 upgrade isc-dhcp-common 4.1.1-P1-12 4.1.1-P1-15 2010-12-09 16:34:01 upgrade libkrb5-dev 1.8.3+dfsg-2 1.8.3+dfsg-3 2010-12-09 16:34:02 upgrade krb5-multidev 1.8.3+dfsg-2 1.8.3+dfsg-3 2010-12-09 16:34:03 upgrade libk5crypto3 1.8.3+dfsg-2 1.8.3+dfsg-3 2010-12-09 16:34:04 upgrade libgssapi-krb5-2 1.8.3+dfsg-2 1.8.3+dfsg-3 2010-12-09 16:34:05 upgrade libkrb5-3 1.8.3+dfsg-2 1.8.3+dfsg-3 2010-12-09 16:34:07 upgrade libkrb5support0 1.8.3+dfsg-2 1.8.3+dfsg-3 2010-12-09 16:34:08 upgrade libgssrpc4 1.8.3+dfsg-2 1.8.3+dfsg-3 2010-12-09 16:34:09 upgrade libkdb5-4 1.8.3+dfsg-2 1.8.3+dfsg-3 2010-12-09 16:34:10 upgrade libkadm5srv-mit7 1.8.3+dfsg-2 1.8.3+dfsg-3 2010-12-09 16:34:11 upgrade libkadm5clnt-mit7 1.8.3+dfsg-2 1.8.3+dfsg-3 2010-12-09 16:34:12 upgrade desktop-base 5.0.6 6.0.2 2010-12-09 16:34:15 upgrade gthumb 3:2.11.5-3 3:2.11.5-4 2010-12-09 16:34:17 upgrade gthumb-data 3:2.11.5-3 3:2.11.5-4 2010-12-09 16:34:20 upgrade php5-cli 5.3.3-4 5.3.3-5 2010-12-09 16:34:21 upgrade php5-mysql 5.3.3-4 5.3.3-5 2010-12-09 16:34:22 upgrade php5-mcrypt 5.3.3-4 5.3.3-5 2010-12-09 16:34:24 upgrade php5-gd 5.3.3-4 5.3.3-5 2010-12-09 16:34:25 upgrade libapache2-mod-php5 5.3.3-4 5.3.3-5 2010-12-09 16:34:26 upgrade php5-common 5.3.3-4 5.3.3-5 2010-12-09 16:34:27 upgrade libasyncns0 0.3-1 0.3-1.1 2010-12-09 16:34:28 upgrade libwebkit-1.0-common 1.2.5-2 1.2.5-2.1 2010-12-09 16:34:30 upgrade libwebkit-1.0-2 1.2.5-2 1.2.5-2.1 2010-12-09 16:34:31 upgrade php-pear 5.3.3-4 5.3.3-5 2010-12-09 16:34:33 upgrade php5 5.3.3-4 5.3.3-5 2010-12-09 16:34:35 upgrade python2.5 2.5.5-10 2.5.5-11 2010-12-09 16:34:37 upgrade python2.5-minimal 2.5.5-10 2.5.5-11 2010-12-09 16:34:38 upgrade wpasupplicant 0.6.10-2 0.6.10-2.1 2010-12-09 16:34:40 upgrade dhcp3-client 4.1.1-P1-12 4.1.1-P1-15 2010-12-09 16:34:41 upgrade dhcp3-common 4.1.1-P1-12 4.1.1-P1-15
Re: debian testing amd64: X windows trouble after todays updates. (input events problem?)
Well, I am using debian testing on laptops since around 1999. Stable always seems to be missing the one or other driver or configuration for that, sometimes I have to fall back to unstable. Anyway, what I do now - in fact, have already done - is sending in a bug report. I still have my doubts that desktop-base is the cause, since it really does not do very much. Only the other packages are more unlikely to cause the effect. Most of the time, such annoyances vanish after a few days, weeks or months, until now I never had one like this that completely broke usability. So maybe I'll try to get desktop-base 5.0.6 somewhere, take a look at the differences and try to figure out if something there might be the cause. Only I had to switch back to a working machine now to do something productive. For your problem: Normally I use dselect and there '=' to fix a package whenever I get this dependency upgrade problem where someone put a minor version/release number in a dependency that really does not work with the continouus upgrades in testing or unstable. I must admit that I never bothered to find out what underlying dpkg functionality that one uses to do its work. On Fri, 10 Dec 2010, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Peter Koellner wrote: Well, I found the dpkg log with all the packages updated in that batch. one of them or a combination has to be responsible. I guess it might be desktop-base 6.0.2 Indeed, but what are you going to do? I do a backup before a dist-upgrade, so I can fall back to something that works. But never doing an upgrade again is not an option. Pinning never seems to work for me: right now I want to pin mc, mondo and mindi, but it does not work, they get updated anyway: Package: mc Pin: version 4.6* Pin-Priority: 1001 Package: wmtemp Pin: version 0.0.6-3 Pin-Priority: 1001 Hugo -- peter koellner pe...@asgalon.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/alpine.osx.2.00.1012101654220@local.meinefc.de
debian testing amd64: X windows trouble after todays updates. (gdm problem?)
Hi! I am running a lenovo thinkpad T510 with debian testing. after doing a maintenance package update today, I discovered that the gnome desktop locked up frequently. That is, the current foreground application still gets mouse and keypoard input, but window manager and gnome panel funcionality went dead. Occasionally responsiveness came back, but I could not really reproduce that. Next thing what happened was when I switched to console I discovered that the console ran out a few lines at the bottom, so I could not see the current line. I guess this is a different problem not necessarily connected and could be older since I did not use console mode for a couple of weeks. After doing a few reboots and trials I switched gdm over to a twm session. TWM got the same problem, locking me in after opening an xterm, which I could not even resize afterwards. After a while and some random key/mousebutton combinations, it worked again for some time but not for long. I could not reproduce the circumstances of failure, but apart from the xterm window itself the window manager does not seem to be responsive. Unfortunately the thing is conected via WLAN and this Gnome network thingy does not bother to start the connection from console, so the laptop is now disconnected until I figure out how to configure wpa_supplicant again without that gnome-based stuff.. Basic data: uname -a Linux kropotkin 2.6.32-5-amd64 #1 SMP Thu Nov 25 18:02:11 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux lspci tells me: VGA: nVidia Corp. GT218 [NVS 3100M] Display size: 1920x1080 nvidia-kernel-2.6-amd64 version 195.36.31+2 nvidia-kernel-2.6.32-5-amd64 version 195.36.31+2 all the other nvidia modules show version 195.36.31-6 In top, I see Xorg at 85% CPU usage, twm around 40%. After leaving xterm, twm seems to want to place some new window i cancelled long ago. It seems that Xwindows switched to modal windows somehow... then I have shut down gdm and started X manually from console by startx. This seems to work even with gnome so I suspect it might be a gdm problem. I can provide more details as soon as I have the laptop itself reconnected to the net. The effect started after updating packages about four hours ago. I am not sure which package is the culprit, but it has to be a recent change somewhere. I'll now put together the list of installed packages. and more information. So where should I go next to report the problem? Replies to me in CC. please. -- peter koellner pe...@asgalon.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/alpine.osx.2.00.1012091834450@local.meinefc.de
Re: debian testing amd64: X windows trouble after todays updates. (gdm problem?)
I switched between xdm and gdm, and the problem with unresponsive window manager and locked in focused window seems to go away with that, though I am not totally sure. Inbetween, it worked with gdm for a short time, but on the second try I started a terminal window and iceweasel/firefox in quick succession from the panel, and afterwards could not switch or move windows or use the panel again for some time. Now I have configured xdm as default window manager and until now there have not been any problems. The virtual console problem is still there, I guess there is some problem with the 16:9 geometry there, but I have no idea where to start searching. -- peter koellner pe...@asgalon.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/alpine.deb.2.02.1012091952150.3...@kropotkin
