Re: compton and shadows

2014-03-06 Thread Peter Tynan
On 7 March 2014 02:46, Sharon Kimble boudic...@talktalk.net wrote:
 If you use 'compton' and a launcher like 'docky' or 'plank' in
 'fluxbox' you will find that there is a *shadow* extending to about one
 inch above your launcher. In this shadow you are unable to click any
 button or pane-descriptor like in 'tmux', it is effectively
 'dead-ground' and unusable.

 Is there any way of shrinking this shadow so that you are able to use
 the full screen above the launcher, instead of the present 80%?

 To see this shadow in action run 'compton -c --shadow-blue 1' in a
 terminal, and you see the big blue shadow! And I want to shrink it to
 about the bottom half-inch of the screen, but, is it possible please?

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Try including

shadow-exclude = n:e:Notification;

in your .compton.conf

Peter


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Re: anyone using shell-fm?

2013-05-08 Thread Peter Tynan
 Date: Wed, 8 May 2013 06:31:10 -0400 (EDT)
 From: Jude DaShiell jdash...@shellworld.net
 cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Subject: Re: anyone using shell-fm?
 Message-ID: alpine.bsf.2.01.1305080629510.10...@freire1.furyyjbeyq.arg
 List-Id: debian-user.lists.debian.org

 I don't mind building from source.  I've had to do it several times 
 already.  One of these days I'll learn to build my own kernel too, but 
 I'm not yet that advanced.

 On Tue, 7 May 2013, Peter Tynan wrote:

   Date: Mon, 6 May 2013 18:46:17 -0400 (EDT)
   From: Jude DaShiell jdash...@shellworld.net
   To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
   Subject: anyone using shell-fm?
   Message-ID: alpine.bsf.2.01.1305061843110.52...@freire1.furyyjbeyq.arg
   List-Id: debian-user.lists.debian.org
  
   I'm having no luck setting this package up to work on Debian and really 
   would prefer to avoid windows for use of lastfm.  The problem I'm having 
   is when shell-fm tries to connect, the site it uses generates an error 
   403.  Is the site that shell-fm tries to connect to the only possible 
   connection or are there others available to try?
  
  See http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=695256
  
  In order  to ensure only  subscribers could listen to  Last-fm streams
  using  a client  (as opposed  to  the web-site)  Last-fm disabled  the
  version  1 streaming  protocol which  the version  of shell-fm  in the
  repros uses.
  
  There is a new version of shell-fm available that uses the version two
  protocol but it is not yet  in Debian. If you don't mind building from
  source (which you may  ell mind if you are new to  Linux and Debian) I
  can report the version builds  fine on Wheezy. If I remember correctly
  Last-fm  also host  a unofficial  Debian repository  for the  official
  Last-fm client.
  

The #shell-fm  irc channel  on the Freenode  server is  normally quite
helpful (the developer idles there) though  one may often have to wait
quite a while  for a reply (depending on time  zone differences and so
on).


Peter


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client as your reply was sent to mee and carbon copied to the list, it
should of only been set to the list.

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Re: anyone using shell-fm?

2013-05-07 Thread Peter Tynan
 Date: Mon, 6 May 2013 18:46:17 -0400 (EDT)
 From: Jude DaShiell jdash...@shellworld.net
 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Subject: anyone using shell-fm?
 Message-ID: alpine.bsf.2.01.1305061843110.52...@freire1.furyyjbeyq.arg
 List-Id: debian-user.lists.debian.org

 I'm having no luck setting this package up to work on Debian and really 
 would prefer to avoid windows for use of lastfm.  The problem I'm having 
 is when shell-fm tries to connect, the site it uses generates an error 
 403.  Is the site that shell-fm tries to connect to the only possible 
 connection or are there others available to try?

See http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=695256

In order  to ensure only  subscribers could listen to  Last-fm streams
using  a client  (as opposed  to  the web-site)  Last-fm disabled  the
version  1 streaming  protocol which  the version  of shell-fm  in the
repros uses.

There is a new version of shell-fm available that uses the version two
protocol but it is not yet  in Debian. If you don't mind building from
source (which you may  ell mind if you are new to  Linux and Debian) I
can report the version builds  fine on Wheezy. If I remember correctly
Last-fm  also host  a unofficial  Debian repository  for the  official
Last-fm client.

Hope that all helps.


Peter


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Re: MUA Yahoo Mail (WAS:Re: Dist-upgrade or upgrade. Which?)

2013-04-25 Thread Peter Tynan
 On Thu, 2013-04-25 at 11:57 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
  When I set up my Rocketmail accounts, Evolution automatically wanted to
  use IMAP, but I forced to use POP.
  
  This are my Rocketmail settings:
  
  Server: pop.mail.yahoo.com
  Port:   995
  Security:   SSL on a dedicated port
  Authentication: Password
  
  Server: smtp.mail.yahoo.com
  Port:   465
  Security:   SSL on a dedicated port
  Authentication: Login


I'd just like to say thanks for  all the information in this thread as
it finally prompted me to set up my old talk21 email address in my MUA
of choice  - heirloom-mailx, (talk21  was a email service  provided by
British Telecom and is now farmed out to Yahoo).

IMAP with  SSL is working fine  but much to my  disappointment I could
only get  SMTP working without SSL  (note: I have SSL working  fine on
other accounts so I  think this is a talk21 thing  (and a quick google
search seems to back me up on this)).

Peter

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Re: Basic USB Automounter?

2013-01-16 Thread Peter Tynan
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 Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 14:27:49 -0800 (PST)
 From: Patrick Bartek bartek...@yahoo.com
 Subject: Basic USB Automounter?
 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org debian-user@lists.debian.org
 List-Id: debian-user.lists.debian.org

 Building a Wheezy 64-bit system piece by piece from the standard 
 terminal-only 
 install.  I don't want to have any extraneous crap that I'll never use on it 
   Will have X and a window manager only (currently Openbox) for those times I 
 need a GUI.  This will be my personal system with me as the only user.  A 
 desktop, not a laptop.

 Will udisks automount USB devices--thumb drives, flash cards, external hard 
 disks, etc.--in BOTH terminal mode or GUI? I can't find any docs that say 
 specifically.  All assume having a GUI running.  Or can anyone suggest 
 something better.   User must have full access to device after it's mounted.

 Thanks.

 B

Still using halevt here.


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Re: Basic USB Automounter?

2013-01-16 Thread Peter Tynan
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 Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 17:09:54 -0800 (PST)
 From: Patrick Bartek bartek...@yahoo.com
 Subject: Re: Basic USB Automounter?
 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org debian-user@lists.debian.org
 List-Id: debian-user.lists.debian.org

 - Original Message -
  From: Peter Tynan ha...@sdf.lonestar.org
  To: debian-user@lists.debian.org debian-user@lists.debian.org
  Cc: 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2013 3:15 PM
  Subject: Re: Basic USB Automounter?
  
   X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.130.494
   Message-ID: 
  1358375269.30690.yahoomail...@web142301.mail.bf1.yahoo.com
   Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 14:27:49 -0800 (PST)
   From: Patrick Bartek bartek...@yahoo.com
   Subject: Basic USB Automounter?
   To: debian-user@lists.debian.org 
  debian-user@lists.debian.org
   List-Id: debian-user.lists.debian.org
  
   Building a Wheezy 64-bit system piece by piece from the standard 
  terminal-only 
   install.  I don't want to have any extraneous crap that I'll never 
  use on it 
     Will have X and a window manager only (currently Openbox) for those 
 times 
  I 
   need a GUI.  This will be my personal system with me as the only user.  A 
   desktop, not a laptop.
  
   Will udisks automount USB devices--thumb drives, flash cards, external 
  hard 
  
   disks, etc.--in BOTH terminal mode or GUI? I can't find any docs that 
  say 
   specifically.  All assume having a GUI running.  Or can anyone suggest 
   something better.   User must have full access to device after it's 
  mounted.
  
   Thanks.
  
   B
  
  Still using halevt here.

 I'm familiar with halevt; however, HAL has been deprecated since 2011 or so, 
 if 
 my research is correct, and has been replaced by the newer udev, which 
 includes 
 most, if not all, of HAL's features.  HAL is not installed by default in 
 Wheezy.  And while I'm sure it would work, I'm refraining from installing 
 extraneous or duplicative tools on the system.

 Thanks for the reply.

 B

When I installed  Wheezy I did look for something  more modern but all
the alternatives seemed  to involve a lot more configuring  so I'll be
following this thread to  see if there is anything that  is as easy to
use as halevt.


Peter

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Re: which version of debian to download

2012-12-18 Thread Peter Tynan
 Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 21:52:44 +0100
 From: berenger.mo...@neutralite.org
 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Subject: Re: which version of debian to download
 Message-ID: 420ee2b7cf1c65846e4c8d575f2f8...@neutralite.org
 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929
  Thunderbird/7.0.1
 List-Id: debian-user.lists.debian.org

 Nowadays, all processors I know for computers are built with 64 bits
 architectures, and corresponding instructions sets, which are often
 named amd64, probably for history reasons.
 Another name you could encounter is x86_64, which simply means that the
 processor is of x86 intel family (here, intel is not related to the
 trademark, but to the electronic architecture they made popular) with 64
 bit instruction set.


History lesson:

IIRC, it was AMD  that was the first to market 64  bit chips that were
also compatible  with code  written for the  X86 32  bit architecture.
Which  gave rise  to a  rare occasion  of Intel  playing catch  up and
having to implement a defacto standard created by AMD.


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Re: How to rip double discs albums?

2011-05-24 Thread Peter Tynan
On 24 May 2011 15:38, Leonardo Ruoso leonardo.ru...@gmail.com wrote:
 Because I'll move to another state and I'd like to carry out all my music
 without my old discs I'm trying to tip my original albums.
 I'm having problems with Sound Juicer (Squeeze) and double disc albums like
 Beatles Anthology.
 When inserting both disc 1 and 2 of Beatles Anthology 3 it comes with all 50
 songs. While extracting CD1 it gets all tracks until 27 and, after that,
 keeps extracting track 1 several times until filling all 50 tracks.. While
 extracting CD 2 all tracks 28 - 50 overwrites the CD 1 tracks...
 Is there any way to fix it?

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Try another ripper. I'm quite fond of morituri
http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/morituri

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Re: iceweasel 4 on squeeze?

2011-03-23 Thread Peter Tynan
On 23 March 2011 13:31, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. b...@iguanasuicide.net wrote:
 On 2011-03-23 07:01:21 Brad Alexander wrote:
I had thought about grabbing the one from experimental (rc2?), but decided
against that for a squeeze system.


You may want to try http://mozilla.debian.net/

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Re: iceweasel 4 on squeeze?

2011-03-23 Thread Peter Tynan
On 23 March 2011 15:04, Brad Alexander stor...@gmail.com wrote:
 Very cool site. However, I just added it, and added the key, and upgraded,
 but got

 [root@galaxy sources.list.d]# apt-get install -t squeeze-backports iceweasel
 Reading package lists... Done
 Building dependency tree
 Reading state information... Done
 iceweasel is already the newest version.
 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 12 not upgraded.
 [root@galaxy sources.list.d]# dpkg -l | grep weasel
 ii  iceweasel
 3.5.16-5 Web browser based on Firefox

At http://mozilla.debian.net/ select the version of Iceweasel you want
and the Debian release you are using and follow the instructions, I
suspect you did not select Iceweasel 4.0 on the drop down menu...

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Re: iceweasel 4 on squeeze?

2011-03-23 Thread Peter Tynan
 On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 11:17 AM, Peter Tynan peter.ty...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 23 March 2011 15:04, Brad Alexander stor...@gmail.com wrote:
  Very cool site. However, I just added it, and added the key, and
  upgraded,
  but got
 
  [root@galaxy sources.list.d]# apt-get install -t squeeze-backports
  iceweasel
  Reading package lists... Done
  Building dependency tree
  Reading state information... Done
  iceweasel is already the newest version.
  0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 12 not upgraded.
  [root@galaxy sources.list.d]# dpkg -l | grep weasel
  ii  iceweasel
  3.5.16-5 Web browser based on Firefox

 At http://mozilla.debian.net/ select the version of Iceweasel you want
 and the Debian release you are using and follow the instructions, I
 suspect you did not select Iceweasel 4.0 on the drop down menu...

On 23 March 2011 16:33, Brad Alexander stor...@gmail.com wrote:
 I did indeed select 4.0:

 [root@galaxy sources.list.d]# cat mozilla-squeeze.list
 deb http://mozilla.debian.net/ squeeze-backports iceweasel-4.0

hmm... all I can say is it worked for me, although I used aptitude not apt-get
- silly question but you did update your sources after editing your
sources.list?


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Re: iceweasel 4 on squeeze?

2011-03-23 Thread Peter Tynan
On 23 March 2011 22:57, Andreas Rönnquist gus...@gusnan.se wrote:
 On Wed, 23 Mar 2011 15:17:44 +
 Peter Tynan peter.ty...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 23 March 2011 15:04, Brad Alexander stor...@gmail.com wrote:
  Very cool site. However, I just added it, and added the key, and upgraded,
  but got
 
  [root@galaxy sources.list.d]# apt-get install -t squeeze-backports 
  iceweasel
  Reading package lists... Done
  Building dependency tree
  Reading state information... Done
  iceweasel is already the newest version.
  0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 12 not upgraded.
  [root@galaxy sources.list.d]# dpkg -l | grep weasel
  ii  iceweasel
  3.5.16-5 Web browser based on Firefox

 At http://mozilla.debian.net/ select the version of Iceweasel you want
 and the Debian release you are using and follow the instructions, I
 suspect you did not select Iceweasel 4.0 on the drop down menu...

 Peter


 I tried this too, but I run into the same problems that Brad did.
 Adding the mozilla.debian.net to sources.list, adding the key, and
 updating/dist-upgrading does nothing for me.

 I want the 4.0 for Squeeze, but get nothing.

 I am on AMD64, maybe its only i386 this far?

 best regards
 /Andreas


No, I'm using i386

could it just be that the server is struggling with high demand?

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Re: Debian Wiki participation..?

2011-02-27 Thread Peter Tynan

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011, Camaleón wrote:


http://wiki.debian.org/DebianWiki/EditorQuickStart#Account


Thanks for the link, three thoughts...

1: II think it would be helpful if there were links to the Privacy and 
Copyright pages on the  registration page.


2: Still does not answer my primary concern of what is the policy 
regarding email addresses of registered users (it makes a difference in 
terms of which email address I use).


3: It's way too short - I'm one of those weird people that likes reading 
the small print.


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Re: Debian Wiki participation..?

2011-02-27 Thread Peter Tynan

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011, Camaleón wrote:


On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 11:28:44 +, Peter Tynan wrote:

All valid concerns (#2 a bit paranoid, IMO), but I think they will be
better managed and properly addressed in the right mailing list:

http://wiki.debian.org/DebianWiki/Contact#content-admins



Probably, but I'm not signing up for another mailing list just to make a 
single post - I've raised my concerns here mainly to see what other users 
think and raise awareness.  I will most likely follow through on the filing 
a bug report advice.


As to point two being paranoid, with the way that Debian has operated over 
the years I have used - yes probably, but times and policies change so yes 
I'd like a definitive statement.


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Re: Debian Wiki participation..?

2011-02-27 Thread Peter Tynan

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011, Simon Hollenbach wrote:


- Original message -

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 12:26:57 +0100, Simon Hollenbach wrote:


I hereby ask the OP to post the link when a bug was opened...



At the moment it is way, way past my bed-time (I'm desperately trying to 
stay awake until the cricket commentary finishes) so I don't quite trust 
myself to file the bug report now but I'll post the link once I've has 
some sleep.


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Debian Wiki participation..?

2011-02-26 Thread Peter Tynan
One of the things I've never understood about Debian is why the wiki
is so inactive when compared to other distributions, the simple fact
of life is that nine times out of ten I find the information I'm
looking for on the Arch or Gentoo wikis - not the Debian wiki.  I am
now beginning to understand why, let me tell you a story...

On the Openbox page http://wiki.debian.org/Openbox I noticed some
advice that I thought was not exactly best practice

 Add the following to the autostart.sh file in /etc/xdg/openbox.

As I understand it a user should copy these files to ~/.config/openbox
folder and edit these local files.

Being a dutiful netizen  I thought I'd mention this on the discussion
page and see what other users thought. Hmmm... no discussion page but
it seems I can create one... but wait... I need to be logged in to do
that. I can understand the need to be logged in - reduce spam and all
- so off I go to register.

On the registration page quite reasonably I'm asked for my email
address HOWEVER I can find no link to any form of privacy statement
saying what will be done with my email address so being a cautious
netizen I do not register, I do not make my suggestion and I start to
understand why the Debian wiki is so relatively inactive.

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Re: To gmail or not to gmail (was Re: Fwd: selecting old machines for firewall/router use)

2011-02-22 Thread Peter Tynan

On Tue, 22 Feb 2011, Petrus Validus wrote:


I interpret the if used correctly bit to mean using the GMail web
interface, not a 3rd party client such as Evolution or Mutt.  Am I
correct in this interpretation?


No, I mean, AFAICT, IMAP was not designed for this paradigm (same
message present in different folders/tags/views/whatever).


I've also come to that conclusion.  I think we're saying the same thing
just different words (maybe?).  It looks like to me this paradigm was
designed for use on Gmail's own interface and that's it.


Mutt with the correct macros and folder-hooks can be bent into adapting
to Gmail's style, mostly...


I'm still new to Mutt so I will have to look into this much further, not
to mention doing some manual reading.


Unless I'm missing something it does *not* do what I want, but I worked
around it with mutt macros (see my other post).


Heh...I noticed that too.  I'll take a look at your post.


With the google labs thing, the delete/move to bin options only work if 
the message is only in a single IMAP folder thus it will never work if you 
are subscribed to the All Mail folder (unless it is only in the all mail 
folder), if you go to the labels section in the GMail settings you can 
unsubscribed All Mail as an IMAP folder.



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Re: To gmail or not to gmail (was Re: Fwd: selecting old machines for firewall/router use)

2011-02-21 Thread Peter Tynan

On Mon, 21 Feb 2011, Petrus Validus wrote:


Get away from the web interface.  Install Icedove/Evolution/Mutt and use
Google's IMAPs interface.


I use Evolution and Mutt with Google's IMAP interface.  It works nicely
but I've noticed this quirky behavior when using a client via IMAP.  My
messages appear in multiple places at the same time.

For instance I'll have new mail display in Inbox, All Mail (where
*everything* is), and then in the individual labels (or folders).
Pretty funky.  At first I just thought it was an Evolution thing,
but I've tested it with Outlook 2003, Thunderbird, and Mutt.  I am
assuming that each message isn't actually being delivered three times
and just listed in different folders within the account.

Is there a way for this to be disabled and subsequently have
messages be displayed in their specific folders...or is this just how
Gmail works?


Although the powerful filtering abilities of Pine/Alpine was one of the 
things that attracted me to it that was over a decade ago, today I let 
gmail do the filtering...


'All Mail' - I'm not subscribed to this (imap?) folder and by its nature 
there is not a lot you do to keep mail out of it.


'Inbox' - one of the options when creating a gmail filter (to apply a 
tag/move to imap folder) is for the message to be archived (i.e. skip the 
Inbox) - I'm thinking this is the option you are looking for?



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Re: To gmail or not to gmail (was Re: Fwd: selecting old machines for firewall/router use)

2011-02-21 Thread Peter Tynan

On Mon, 21 Feb 2011, Andrei Popescu wrote:


On Lu, 21 feb 11, 12:59:56, Petrus Validus wrote:

This one of the better innovation brought by Gmail, if used correctly.

Unfortunately it's not very usable via IMAP. Example:
How do I tell mutt to tag the message as read in All Mail when I delete
it (archive in Gmail speak) from Inbox?


My solution (not sure if solution is the right word bu hey ho...) is that 
nothing is untagged (remember that 'Inbox' is just a tag).  If something is 
deleted it is gone, if I want to keep something but not have it littering 
up my Inbox a tag is applied and it is the archived.


On a slightly different note does anybody know the correct FCC to move sent 
items to Googles 'sent' folder, at the moment I have the somewhat 
unsatisfactory arrangement of stuff sent by Alpine ending up in a separate 
folder.


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Re: To gmail or not to gmail (was Re: Fwd: selecting old machines for firewall/router use)

2011-02-21 Thread Peter Tynan

On Mon, 21 Feb 2011, Andrei Popescu wrote:

If you send via Gmail's SMTP you always have a copy in Gmail's sent, so
it should be enough to tell alpine not to save its own copy.


Check the headers - I use a local sendmail.  I've been doing some digging 
and it is in a sub-folder named Google Mail, the sub-folder used to be 
named Gmail but a while ago that stopped working so I think I now have a 
fix :)


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Re: To gmail or not to gmail (was Re: Fwd: selecting old machines for firewall/router use)

2011-02-21 Thread Peter Tynan
On 21 February 2011 21:24, Andrei Popescu andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote:

 Maybe this is mutt specific, but if I just delete the mail from Inbox in
 All Mail the message is still marked as unread (a.k.a new). If I mark it
 as read and sync, then it's also marked as read in All Mail. I assume
 Gmail takes the delete from Inbox command quite literally and doesn't
 also mark the message as read first.

 I guess I can write a macro to remap 'd' to
 toggle-newsync-mailboxdelete-message instead...

The behaviour for expunge can be set in the IMAP bit of the Gmail settings.

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Re: To gmail or not to gmail (was Re: Fwd: selecting old machines for firewall/router use)

2011-02-20 Thread Peter Tynan

On Sun, 20 Feb 2011, Ron Johnson wrote:


Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 22:02:48 -0600
From: Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: To gmail or not to gmail (was Re: Fwd: selecting old machines for
firewall/router use)
Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 04:03:05 + (UTC)
Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org

On 02/20/2011 09:42 PM, Heddle Weaver wrote:

Got to get away from gmail. No list reply feature.



Get away from the web interface.  Install Icedove/Evolution/Mutt and use 
Google's IMAPs interface.



I use Alpine but the important thing when using imap with gmail is to 
limit the size of the folder, I've something like 15,000+ messages tagged 
Debian in gmail and opening that lot up as folder using imap a) takes 
forever b) is enough to crash alpine on my shell account. Google labs have 
a feature that allows you to limit the size of an imap folder (I have it 
set to 2,000).

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Re: To gmail or not to gmail (was Re: Fwd: selecting old machines for firewall/router use)

2011-02-20 Thread Peter Tynan

On Sun, 20 Feb 2011, Ron Johnson wrote:


Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 23:54:27 -0600
From: Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: To gmail or not to gmail (was Re: Fwd: selecting old machines for
 firewall/router use)
Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 05:54:49 + (UTC)
Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org

On 02/20/2011 11:01 PM, Peter Tynan wrote:

On Sun, 20 Feb 2011, Ron Johnson wrote:


Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 22:02:48 -0600
From: Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: To gmail or not to gmail (was Re: Fwd: selecting old
machines for
firewall/router use)
Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 04:03:05 + (UTC)
Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org

On 02/20/2011 09:42 PM, Heddle Weaver wrote:

Got to get away from gmail. No list reply feature.



Get away from the web interface. Install Icedove/Evolution/Mutt
and use Google's IMAPs interface.



I use Alpine but the important thing when using imap with gmail is


I keep my current D-User folder (relatively) small by having maildrop 
filter emails into quarterly folders.





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Re: To gmail or not to gmail (was Re: Fwd: selecting old machines for firewall/router use)

2011-02-20 Thread Peter Tynan

On Sun, 20 Feb 2011, Ron Johnson wrote:


Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 23:54:27 -0600
From: Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: To gmail or not to gmail (was Re: Fwd: selecting old machines for
 firewall/router use)
Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 05:54:49 + (UTC)
Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org

I keep my current D-User folder (relatively) small by having maildrop 
filter emails into quarterly folders.




Does that not make searching a pain in the posterior?

(nb: sorry, I think I may of accidently sent a half edited message)

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Re: Iceweasel 3 and gopher?

2008-06-15 Thread Peter Tynan
2008/6/15 Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Does Google even index gopher sites?


Yes, via the HTTP to Gopher proxy at http://gopher.floodgap.com/gopher/
e.g. A search at google.com on gopher sdf happy resulted in the 8th
hit being a gopher site.

but if you want to search gopherspace you are better off using
veronica @ gopher://gopher.floodgap.com/1/v2


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Iceweasel 3 and gopher?

2008-06-14 Thread Peter Tynan
I noted from a recent discussion on this list that iceweasel 3.0-rc2
has been made available in Sid and I was wondering what the plans are
for support of the gopher protocol in Iceweasel 3? I ask this because
support for the gopher protocol has been pulled from the core of
FireFox 3 and I was hoping that Debian are not going to make the same
(IMHO) mistake.

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Re: Iceweasel 3 and gopher?

2008-06-14 Thread Peter Tynan
2008/6/14 Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 01:31:07PM +0100, Peter Tynan wrote:
 I noted from a recent discussion on this list that iceweasel 3.0-rc2
 has been made available in Sid and I was wondering what the plans are
 for support of the gopher protocol in Iceweasel 3? I ask this because
 support for the gopher protocol has been pulled from the core of
 FireFox 3 and I was hoping that Debian are not going to make the same
 (IMHO) mistake.

 well, Debian's Iceweasel is simply a rebranded Firefox. I would be
 shocked if debian put back in core functionality that mozilla took
 out...

 A


I was under the impression that although Iceweasel started off as a
simple rebranding project that the maintainers had greater ambitions
and that they already made changes to the source that have nothing to
do with the branding - am I wrong?

Iceweasel  (and FireFox) prior to version 3 despite a few bugs were
the most convenient GUI gopher browser available and the loss of
gopher support would be a big blow for gopher users.


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Re: Iceweasel 3 and gopher?

2008-06-14 Thread Peter Tynan
2008/6/14 Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 04:42:08PM +0100, Peter Tynan wrote:

 Iceweasel  (and FireFox) prior to version 3 despite a few bugs were
 the most convenient GUI gopher browser available and the loss of
 gopher support would be a big blow for gopher users.

 that would be a problem.

 A


Just to summarise the problems - Iceweasel (and FireFox) is the only
integrated  GUI gopher browser, most other gopher browsers just show
the gopher menu tree and in some cases plain text documents with
Iceweasel I can view images, html documents, flash files, sound files
etc (assuming I have the appropriate plug-in) where as other gopher
browsers would have to open another application, also other GUI gopher
browsers have suffered from a lack of development in recent years
(mainly (IMHO) because Iceweasel/FireFox did the job so well) which
means they can look quite dated and lack a certain user friendliness
(as far as I know the console gopher client -is the only dedicated
gopher client still under active development).

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Re: Iceweasel 3 and gopher?

2008-06-14 Thread Peter Tynan
2008/6/14 Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 If the gopher protocol still has life in it (and I gather
 that it does), then the community will be better served by having
 motivation to pick up development of the other browsers, or perhaps
 incorporate better gopher support into the other web browsers.

 .02

 A

er... probably true but it will still be irritating when I have to
switch programs just because the site I want to view is gopher (I hate
having lots of windows open) -  now where do I post to request that
xgopher is be reinstated in the repositories :-/

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Re: Iceweasel 3 and gopher?

2008-06-14 Thread Peter Tynan
2008/6/14 Andrew Reid [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  Evidently the gopher-internet is not at all dead.

It's alive a kicking with active development of several gopher servers
(including pygopherd in the Debian repositories), on the client side
there is the console client under active development and as previously
mentioned by Tzafrir Cohen there is the Overbite project which has
along term aim of providing a cross platform GUI gopher browser using
Adobe's AIR platform but which after the Mozilla people brought
forward the planned pulling of gopher support for FireFox from FireFox
4 to version 3 has been on a short term work frenzy to put together a
gopher plug-in for FireFox. I've not mentioned the Overbite project
before now as I promised Cameron Kaiser that I would keep quiet until
the official launch on June 18th and I'm still reluctant to talk about
it even though some else has already posted about it here, suffice to
say that it is a big improvement over the standard gopher rendering
engine in FireFox/Iceweasel 2 - in that it looks prettier and fixes
the bug which prevents FireFox/Iceweasel showing gopher sites that are
not on port 70 and that if if gopher support is to be retained in the
core of Iceweasel 3 the overbite engine is probably the one they
should use.

NB: There is a gopher search engine over at floodgap
gopher://gopher.floodgap.com/ and for the gopher challenged
http://gopher.floodgap.com/gopher/gw


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Re: Iceweasel 3 and gopher?

2008-06-14 Thread Peter Tynan
2008/6/14 Koh Choon Lin [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Just curious, what advantage does Gopher offers over other protocols?


I'd suggest reading
gopher://gopher.floodgap.com/0/gopher/relevance.txt for a full answer.

I think advantage is probably the wrong word it's an alternative, an
example of the type of feature that makes it distinct from other
protocols would be it's inherently structured menu driven hierarchical
nature, then there is the fact that it doesn't need much system power
to run - either from the server or from the client  and it is I
believe somewhat less of a bandwidth hog than http.

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Re: Iceweasel 3 and gopher?

2008-06-14 Thread Peter Tynan
2008/6/15 John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Iceweasel 3.0~rc2-1 still seems to support Gopher.


It was in the early RC's of FireFox as well, as I understand it the
final decision to pull it from FF3 was taken quite late in the day.

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Help - /usr not mounting!

2008-04-23 Thread Peter Tynan
I'm currently operating from a live CD as my /usr partition is
refusing to mount at boot.

fsck is not working - output below.

# fsck -r /dev/hda5
fsck 1.38 (30-Jun-2005)
fsck.jfs version 1.1.10, 19-Oct-2005
processing started: 4/23/2008 6.10.34
The current device is:  /dev/hda5
Block size in bytes:  4096
Filesystem size in blocks:  1833410
**Phase 0 - Replay Journal Log
ujfs_rw_diskblocks: read 0 of 4096 bytes at offset 1428656128
logredo failed (rc=-242).  fsck continuing.
**Phase 1 - Check Blocks, Files/Directories, and  Directory Entries
ujfs_rw_diskblocks: read 4096 of 16384 bytes at offset 1428652032
Unrecoverable error reading M from /dev/hda5.  CANNOT CONTINUE.
fsck.jfs /dev/hda5 failed (status 0x8). Run manually!

the -a and -p options give the same output.


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Re: Help - /usr not mounting!

2008-04-23 Thread Peter Tynan
2008/4/23 Peter Tynan [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 I'm currently operating from a live CD as my /usr partition is
  refusing to mount at boot.

more info

# fsck.jfs -v /dev/hda5
fsck.jfs version 1.1.10, 19-Oct-2005
processing started: 4/23/2008 6.39.46
Using default parameter: -p
The current device is:  /dev/hda5
Open(...READ/WRITE EXCLUSIVE...) returned rc = 0
Primary superblock is valid.
The type of file system for the device is JFS.
Block size in bytes:  4096
Filesystem size in blocks:  1833410
**Phase 0 - Replay Journal Log
LOGREDO:  Allocating for ReDoPage:  (d) 4096 bytes
LOGREDO:  Allocating for NoDoFile:  (d) 4096 bytes
LOGREDO:  Allocating for BMap:  (d) 28224 bytes
LOGREDO:  Allocating for IMap:  (d) 18464 bytes
LOGREDO:  Allocating for IMap:  (d) 2048 bytes
LOGREDO:  Allocating for IMap:  (d) 2048 bytes
LOGREDO:  Allocating for IMap:  (d) 2048 bytes
LOGREDO:  Allocating for IMap:  (d) 2048 bytes
ujfs_rw_diskblocks: read 0 of 4096 bytes at offset 1428656128
LOGREDO:  Error in volume (d) 0.
LOGREDO:  I/O error attempting to read block 0x055279.
LOGREDO:  bread() Read block (0x055279) failed.
LOGREDO:   updatePage: bread failed (1).  (rc = (d) 1)
LOGREDO:   doAfter: updatePage failed.  (logaddr = 0x019b73f4, rc = (d) 242)
LOGREDO:  Invalid RedoPage record at 0x019b73f4.
logredo failed (rc=-242).  fsck continuing.
**Phase 1 - Check Blocks, Files/Directories, and  Directory Entries
ujfs_rw_diskblocks: read 4096 of 16384 bytes at offset 1428652032
Unrecoverable error reading M from /dev/hda5.  CANNOT CONTINUE.
Fatal error (-10015,30) accessing the filesystem (1,1428652032,16384,0).
processing terminated:  4/23/2008 6:40:21  with return code: -10015
exit code: 8.



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Re: CPU frequency scaling

2008-04-22 Thread Peter Tynan
On 22/04/2008, Vikki Roemer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Probably a dumb question, but what processor do you have?
  --
  Vikki Roemer


cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep name
gives
model name : AMD Athlon(tm) Processor

Peter


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Re: CPU frequency scaling

2008-04-22 Thread Peter Tynan
On 22/04/2008, Peter Tynan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 22/04/2008, Vikki Roemer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Probably a dumb question, but what processor do you have?
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 cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep name
  gives
  model name : AMD Athlon(tm) Processor

cat /proc/cpuinfo also gave  cpu family  : 6

so I tried modprobe powernow_k6 which also gave the FATAL: Error warning.

Peter


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Re: CPU frequency scaling

2008-04-22 Thread Peter Tynan
On 22/04/2008, Sam Leon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Athlon XP processors don't support frequency scaling on desktop
 motherboards.

  Sam

Is it an Athlon XP

$ cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor   : 0
vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD
cpu family  : 6
model   : 4
model name  : AMD Athlon(tm) Processor
stepping: 2
cpu MHz : .084
cache size  : 256 KB
fdiv_bug: no
hlt_bug : no
f00f_bug: no
coma_bug: no
fpu : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level : 1
wp  : yes
flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat
pse36 mmx fxsr syscall mmxext 3dnowext 3dnow up
bogomips: 2224.48
clflush size: 32

and I think I've had it working before with other distributions(?)

Peter


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CPU frequency scaling

2008-04-21 Thread Peter Tynan
I came across an article over at
http://polishlinux.org/linux/debian/green-pcs-cpu-frequency-scaling-in-linux/
about CPU frequency scaling and thought I's give it a try but whenever
I run the command

modprobe powernow_k7 or modprobe acpi_cpufreq

I get the response along the lines of

FATAL: Error inserting powernow_k7
(/lib/modules/2.6.24-1-686/kernel/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/powernow-k7.ko):
No such device

I using Debian Lenny with the latest 686 kernel.

Anybody any ideas?

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Re: debian utility question

2008-04-20 Thread Peter Tynan
On 20/04/2008, Jude DaShiell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Does debian have a utility I can run to check and repair disk permissions?
 On a mac under applications and utilities and under disk repair utility
 there's a function for repair disk permissions which can check permissions
 against a known default set and repair if necessary.  It could be the
 problems I'm having with dpkg may be because some permissions somewhere
 aren't set right.

In most GUI File-managers you check and change permissions by right
clicking an item and clicking properties (or something similar). You
may also want to take a look at the chmod command. It's probably
worth noting that generally dpkg is run as root - whenever I see
instructions on using it,, the instructions always seem to follow the
format
su
dpkg 



Peter


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Re: dpkg unable to write to /var/lib/dpkg/status, /var partition full

2008-04-20 Thread Peter Tynan
On 20/04/2008, Kyle Barbour [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello there,

  I booted up my system this morning and tried to install something with
  aptitude, only to get the error message:

  W: Could not lock the cache file.  Opening in read-only mode; any
  changes you make to the states of packages will NOT be preserved!
  E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a'
  to correct the problem.

  So, I tried running dpkg --configure -a, which gave me:

  dpkg: failed to write status record about `vlc-nox' to
  `/var/lib/dpkg/status': No space left on device

  I ran df, and I found that my /var partition is entirely full (1.9 GB
  of 1.9 GB). I don't know why - last night I ran 'aptitude
  safe-upgrade', maybe that has something to do with it? I'm not sure
  how to fix this problem - I'm assuming that I should pare down some
  files, but I'm not sure which ones or how to prevent this from
  happening again. Any thoughts?

  Thanks for the help,
  Kyle Barbour

I had this problem recently, if I remember right the file at
/var/log/user.log.0 had grown huge (6GB+) - I don't know if this was
the right thing to do but I just deleted it (it reappeared soon after
but has stayed a far more reasonable size - currently 18.kb).

Peter


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Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-02-27 Thread Peter Tynan
On 28/02/2008, Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 09:41:24PM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote:
   This message was posted by Sam Hocevar (current Debian Project Leader)

 ...

 
  I also would like to spend some Debian money on a contest, similar to
   the FreeBSD logo contest [2], to create a friendly mascot for the Debian
   project (in a similar way to the Linux penguin or the GNU gnu) that we
   can use where the logo is not enough. More on this in a few days.


 I have to say, there is nothing friendly about that damn gnu. And that
  statement is in no way a reflection on my views of GNU or it's
  projects. Just that if we're gonna have a mascot, I lean more towards
  the penguin/snarky-devil side of the debate than the smelly ruminant
  side.

  :)


  A

My vote goes for a soft cuddly bunny rabbit (pref ably called Huggles)

:)


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Re: Screen and GPM

2007-11-25 Thread Peter Tynan

On Sun, 25 Nov 2007, Michael Pobega wrote:



-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-

Hash: SHA1

I'm trying to get GPM clicking to work from within screen; So far I've
been without luck. I stumbled upon one page[0] that contained a 'patch'
for GPM, but I'm hesitant to try it (First off being that I have no clue
how to even install the patch) in case it may break my system, so I
figured I'd ask here if anyone knew a Debian-way to get GPM working
under screen.

[0] http://lists.linux.it/pipermail/gpm/2000-November/21.html



Good luck, I'm no expert but the patch might be the only way to go, a few 
years back I tried in vain to find a solution that would get screen and 
gpm playing nicely together and failed. If memory serves me when I was 
reading the various archived mailing lists the screen people seemed to 
blame it on GPM and the GPM people did not seem too bothered.


If you do decide to use the patch p;ease post to let us (well me) how well 
it works.


Peter


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Re: Screen and GPM

2007-11-25 Thread Peter Tynan

On Mon, 26 Nov 2007, Michael Pobega wrote:


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Hash: SHA1

On Mon, Nov 26, 2007 at 05:05:04AM +, Peter Tynan wrote:

On Sun, 25 Nov 2007, Michael Pobega wrote:


-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

I'm trying to get GPM clicking to work from within screen; So far I've
been without luck. I stumbled upon one page[0] that contained a 'patch'
for GPM, but I'm hesitant to try it (First off being that I have no clue
how to even install the patch) in case it may break my system, so I
figured I'd ask here if anyone knew a Debian-way to get GPM working
under screen.


[0] http://lists.linux.it/pipermail/gpm/2000-November/21.html



Good luck, I'm no expert but the patch might be the only way to go, a few 
years back I tried in vain to find a solution that would get screen and gpm 
playing nicely together and failed. If memory serves me when I was reading 
the various archived mailing lists the screen people seemed to blame it on 
GPM and the GPM people did not seem too bothered.


If you do decide to use the patch p;ease post to let us (well me) how well 
it works.


Peter




The problem is that I've got no clue how to go about installing the
patch; Does anyone have any ideas?

I'm no expert but I would suggest reading the man page for the 'patch' 
command as a start. As far as I can see yo 'cd to the directory containing 
the code you want to patch and run something along the lines of


patch  /path/to/file

I did notice there was a dry run option.

Peter


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Re: Sending email using Alpine and gmail

2007-11-05 Thread Peter Tynan

On Mon, 5 Nov 2007, Andrei Popescu wrote:


To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Sending email using Alpine and gmail
Resent-Date: Mon,  5 Nov 2007 09:06:51 + (UTC)
Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org

On Sun, Nov 04, 2007 at 01:17:12PM +, Peter Tynan wrote:
I'm trying to configure Alpine to send email either using gmails smtp ser=

ver or the local mail-server (exim4 configured to use gmails smtp server vi=
a smarthost).

Very interesting, and how is it going?

Regards,
Andrei
--

Oops, I did not meant to send the above post, I was writing it using mailx
just to prove that the smarthost was working - I guess I managed that.

As to how it goes, well I just could not get Alpine working with
exim4/smarthost but I have got it working with the gmail smtp server
working.

With regards to the gmail smtp server below is a list of what did
not and what did work with Alpine 0.

First, what worked: smtp.gmail.com/submit/[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Next what did not work: smtp.gmail.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
smtp.gmail.com:587/tls/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
smtp.gmail.com:587/ssl/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
smtp.gmail.com:995/tls/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
smtp.gmail.com:995/ssl/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
smtp.gmail.com/ssl/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
smtp.gmail.com/tls/[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Anyway I hope that the above will be of use to some poor devil googling
away like a madman in the future.

Regards

Peter


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Sending email using Alpine and gmail

2007-11-04 Thread Peter Tynan
I'm trying to configure Alpine to send email either using gmails smtp server or 
the local mail-server (exim4 configured to use gmails smtp server via 
smarthost).


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media icon and mounting partition

2007-09-11 Thread Peter Tynan
First of all as I an new to both Debian and this list - Hi

My problem is that when I added a partition (hdb2) on my hard drive to
the fstab file a new icon titled media appeared on my desktop. I am
sure this is a wonderful idea for removable hard drives it is not what
I want for a partition on permanently installed internal hard drive.

So how do I safely get rid of this icon?
(I've googeled this but with not luck).

My fstab
# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# file system mount point   type  options   dump  pass
proc/proc   procdefaults0   0
/dev/hdb1   /   ext3defaults,errors=remount-ro 0   1
/dev/hdb9   /home   ext3defaults0   2
/dev/hdb7   /optext3defaults0   2
/dev/hdb2   /music  ext3defaults0   2
/dev/hdb4   /tmpext3defaults0   2
/dev/hdb5   /usrext3defaults0   2
/dev/hdb6   /varext3defaults0   2
/dev/hdb8   noneswapsw  0   0
/dev/hdc/media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0   0
/dev/hdd/media/cdrom1   udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0   0
/dev/fd0/media/floppy0  autorw,user,noauto  0   0

A screen shot, if your not sure about the icon I'm talking about can
be found at http://peter.tynan.googlepages.com/11sep2007.png

Peter

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Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth.
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media icon and mounting partition

2007-09-11 Thread Peter Tynan
First of all as I an new to both Debian and this list (but not new to
Linux) - Hi

My problem is that when I added a partition (hdb2) on my hard drive to
the fstab file a new icon titled media appeared on my desktop. I am
sure this is a wonderful idea for removable hard drives it is not what
I want for a partition on permanently installed internal hard drive.

So how do I safely get rid of this icon?
(I've googeled this but with not luck).

My fstab
# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# file system mount point   type  options   dump  pass
proc/proc   procdefaults0   0
/dev/hdb1   /   ext3defaults,errors=remount-ro 0   1
/dev/hdb9   /home   ext3defaults0   2
/dev/hdb7   /optext3defaults0   2
/dev/hdb2   /music  ext3defaults0   2
/dev/hdb4   /tmpext3defaults0   2
/dev/hdb5   /usrext3defaults0   2
/dev/hdb6   /varext3defaults0   2
/dev/hdb8   noneswapsw  0   0
/dev/hdc/media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0   0
/dev/hdd/media/cdrom1   udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0   0
/dev/fd0/media/floppy0  autorw,user,noauto  0   0

A screen shot, if your not sure about the icon I'm talking about can
be found at http://peter.tynan.googlepages.com/11sep2007.png

Sorry if this has been posted twice - I had a moment of confusion over
which e-mail address I used.

Peter

-- 
Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact.
Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth.
Emperor of Rome Marcus Aurelius


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